| 00:18.10 | Bounty | It lives |
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| 02:08.30 | Torhal | Whoah. It's Sixen! |
| 02:08.43 | Sixen | :P |
| 02:09.01 | Dustin|Work | I know right! |
| 02:09.05 | Dustin|Work | IT's like a ghost showed up :P |
| 02:59.53 | grim001 | ... |
| 03:02.13 | Dustin|Work | sup grim |
| 03:02.19 | ArcanePariah | sup everyone |
| 03:02.21 | ArcanePariah | :P |
| 03:11.34 | Dustin|Work | helllo |
| 03:31.01 | ArcanePariah | So anyone take a poke at valves hammer editor? It appears the terrain editor is similar to sc2 (but that's kind of a given, most look the same to me, painting and all that jazz, but I don't do terrain, so grain of salt). |
| 03:38.48 | IskatuMesk | I think of sc2 less as painting and more of directing a firehose of lard at a three-wheeled chinese car in a skating rink |
| 03:43.02 | Dustin|Work | I have messed with the old Source Hammer editor |
| 03:43.05 | Dustin|Work | Not the new Dota 2 stuff |
| 03:43.39 | Dustin|Work | But basically it was just making terrain via primatives and carving them out and applying texture to the pollys |
| 03:43.53 | Dustin|Work | but I know they had support for Mesh terrain which is probably what dota 2 uses |
| 03:49.41 | Dustin|Work | Alright, well im out of this popsicle stand, have a good night gents |
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| 04:46.19 | Earth-Fury | I just noticed something: per https://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml "Don't keep channel operator privileges" |
| 04:47.03 | Earth-Fury | (Not trying to be a stick in the mud... I was just reading up on freenode's guidelines) |
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| 06:50.10 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bz-Qet4BDM |
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| 07:40.09 | Bounty | Flappy Ship |
| 07:40.12 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:47.05 | Delphinium | XD |
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| 11:25.27 | zolden | Goa_ how is it going? |
| 11:25.39 | Goa_ | well |
| 11:26.18 | Goa_ | dam shity 2d unity doesnt allow tiling spiries texture... :( |
| 11:30.37 | zolden | isn't it material's property? |
| 11:31.47 | zolden | btw, my 2d shmup is 3d, i just frozen rigidbody dimention and made camera orthographic |
| 11:40.13 | Goa_ | yeah it is a material property but you cant change it for sprites, so shity |
| 11:42.24 | zolden | when will yor game be ready? |
| 11:43.17 | Goa_ | its only matter of ages:D |
| 11:43.30 | zolden | oh, time to go |
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| 18:33.29 | Greybeard | were you in any of the recent team assembly announcements, prince ahli? |
| 18:37.28 | Ahli | what? |
| 18:37.34 | Ahli | no |
| 18:38.55 | Ahli | no anouncement yet, although we are very likely to play for a knowledgable team from our country |
| 18:42.03 | Greybeard | master race |
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| 19:36.12 | Bounty | http://www.twitch.tv/fishplayspokemon |
| 19:46.15 | Ahli | old :D |
| 19:53.26 | Bounty | http://www.twitch.tv/rexna |
| 19:53.35 | Bounty | ROCK PLAYS POKEMON! |
| 19:57.25 | Arcane|Work | The best one I've heard yet is universe plays pokemon, control will be activated by cosmic rays |
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| 20:20.24 | Greybeard | I'm waiting for "twitch plays my life" |
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| 20:22.57 | Arcane|Work | Well, one small problem, life has no respawn. |
| 20:23.08 | Arcane|Work | Probably will be implemented in Life 4.0 |
| 20:23.16 | Arcane|Work | No real due data though |
| 20:23.24 | Arcane|Work | due date* |
| 20:29.11 | Greybeard | and here I thought the largest challenge would be live streaming one's life |
| 20:40.13 | Arcane|Work | Ehh, Google Glass is halfway there |
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| 20:50.52 | Dustin|Work | woot |
| 20:52.57 | Arcane|Work | Welcome back to slackers central. |
| 20:53.43 | Arcane|Work | Looked at some of the docs for the new hammer editor. I can see it being far better then sc2 for terrain/model/animation. But... it appears there is nothing for a data editor |
| 20:53.56 | Arcane|Work | And everything is in lua, which may or may not be a good thing. |
| 20:54.34 | Arcane|Work | I'm assuming valve will take the time to make something like the Trigger editor. Otherwise I don't see it doing well, lots of fun shines and non functional games. |
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| 21:00.44 | Greybeard | hammer editor? |
| 21:02.13 | Greybeard | google glass covers the "see-through-my-eyes" aspect of streaming ones life (can also be achieved with more awkward looks by duct taping a go pro to one's head), but I suspect the challenge is in the data flow of live HD video |
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| 21:24.51 | Dustin|Work | Gonna try out the new editor tomorrow |
| 21:28.54 | Arcane|Work | Look forward to the feedback, ought to be interesting to see how it compares to sc2 editor. |
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| 21:38.54 | Greybeard | is ChangeUnitDamage just utterly borked |
| 21:50.40 | Dustin|Work | Sounds like it would be |
| 21:50.43 | Dustin|Work | What are you trying to do |
| 21:50.52 | Dustin|Work | and what are the results |
| 21:51.03 | Greybeard | yahar |
| 21:51.52 | Greybeard | trying to reliably make a unit deal double damage when it breaks stealth in my complex web of abilities with dummy casters and dummy damaging behaviors |
| 21:52.06 | Greybeard | I have solved it though |
| 21:52.31 | Greybeard | using UnitDamage(.., DamageEffect, .., 0) though |
| 21:52.44 | Dustin|Work | Nice, I woulda just set a behavior apply that used the crit modifier and removed itself once you attacked |
| 21:53.31 | Greybeard | which would work except for dummy casters... and damage that is created on behavior start effects |
| 21:53.47 | Greybeard | editor be like, "but who is caster?" |
| 22:15.40 | Arcane|Work | Greybeard: A possibility, have a damage response behavior, that doubles the damage of the caster, but as the damage exhausted effect, removes the behavior. |
| 22:16.04 | Arcane|Work | Another possiblity, a behavior with a pair of disable validators |
| 22:16.19 | Arcane|Work | one checks for current order (check for attack), and another check for cloaking |
| 22:16.34 | Greybeard | all projectile abilities in the process create a dummy caster at the true caster's origin, and then launches the projectile at the dummy's facing |
| 22:17.14 | Arcane|Work | Then do the same, but use the damage modification source field to derive the damage from the true caster. |
| 22:17.46 | Greybeard | hmmmm |
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| 22:25.50 | Arcane|Work | I'm really curious to see why people think having the source 2 engine will allow, I quote "Golden age of Wc3 mapping" |
| 22:26.42 | Arcane|Work | Not sure how it will be ever possible to go back to that. |
| 22:26.53 | Greybeard | ^^ |
| 22:27.06 | Greybeard | the system is too large |
| 22:27.35 | Greybeard | on the other hand, steam may be as close as we'll ever get to a centralized hub |
| 22:27.49 | Arcane|Work | Yeah, I see a few things in Valves favor, but some things against. |
| 22:28.13 | Arcane|Work | I would say the key thing in Valve favor is that they no longer have to really make games, and can take forever to do things right. |
| 22:29.10 | Arcane|Work | I have not opened the editor, but the documentation suggests you have to do everything in LUA, which... IDK, easy to get tutorials on, but its a full fledged language, not something you can pick up tomorrow. |
| 22:29.47 | Greybeard | neither is galaxy |
| 22:31.07 | Arcane|Work | Correct, which means their tools will face the same problem SC2 does: Learning cliff |
| 22:31.21 | Arcane|Work | IE, super powerful... if you spend a ton of time learning them. |
| 22:40.21 | Arcane|Work | Should be interesting to see how things shake out |
| 22:41.25 | Arcane|Work | I get the feeling Blizzard was aware of this, and will update the editor accordingly. Though it may for naught since people are incredibly impatient and bittter nowadays, wanting stuff correct NOW, and if ignored, hold a serious grudge. |
| 22:41.46 | Arcane|Work | And Blizzard is... idk, opaque, and plays the long game. |
| 22:42.11 | Arcane|Work | They mentioned in the AMA that they do NOT ramp up and down, they just go a steady speed. |
| 22:49.01 | Greybeard | a tortoise once told me steady wins races |
| 22:52.00 | Arcane|Work | Well, for blizzard that has definitely been the case, same with valve. |
| 22:52.16 | Arcane|Work | I see one big loser in all this, that being LoL |
| 22:52.38 | Greybeard | that would satisfy my grudge with riot |
| 22:52.46 | Arcane|Work | Storm with custom maps (Galaxy editor) vs Dota 2 with custom maps (Hammer Editor) |
| 22:53.06 | Arcane|Work | Galaxy is RTS based, but damm they optimized the input |
| 22:53.19 | Arcane|Work | Source is FPS based, also relatively new. |
| 22:53.39 | Arcane|Work | Blizzard has their universes to work with, Valve has Steam |
| 22:55.34 | Arcane|Work | I guess Valve also has the advantage of going 2nd. |
| 22:58.18 | Arcane|Work | Hmm... I guess Valve is proving one very good point. Making games = bad idea, making game tools = good idea. |
| 23:02.07 | Arcane|Work | Anyhow, back to finishing up work, then off to home and NOTD 2 :) |
| 23:07.36 | Greybeard | drat, the problem with a shield/bubble/reflect ability is that it is completely useless in the time stop phase (and thus a waste of ability slot) |
| 23:44.14 | IskatuMesk | bongwater dundee |
| 23:44.18 | IskatuMesk | where is JademusSreg |
