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| 00:07.52 | payn1s | hey pirate |
| 00:07.58 | pirate | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:08.15 | payn1s | I missed your last messages a few hours ago: my session had expired |
| 00:08.23 | payn1s | were you serious about the 15th of August? |
| 00:08.41 | pirate | [15:30] <pirate> ...it was in the contest rules [15:30] <pirate> no one reads the print anymore |
| 00:08.53 | payn1s | dayum |
| 00:08.54 | pirate | this shouldn't surprise everyone |
| 00:08.57 | pirate | **anyone |
| 00:14.52 | payn1s | cyalll |
| 00:24.17 | Bounty | Consider that date pushed back at least by a week pirate. |
| 00:24.28 | Bounty | Since they were a week late in the top 10 announcement. |
| 00:24.35 | pirate | sure |
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| 02:07.42 | pirate | lately my actor timers have been failing |
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| 06:51.26 | IskatuMesk | JademusSreg, tomorrow I am disassembling my hardware and next day I will be moving, so this will probably be the last time you see me for a while |
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| 07:37.50 | Bounty | Good luck with your move IskatuMesk |
| 07:38.24 | IskatuMesk | ty |
| 07:38.40 | IskatuMesk | hopefully this is the change I have been waiting a long time for |
| 07:42.07 | Bounty | I hope so bro, I wish you the best. |
| 07:42.14 | Bounty | You deserve it. |
| 07:42.17 | Bounty | IMO lol |
| 07:42.36 | IskatuMesk | moving is going to suck though, this heat and all the shit they want to move in the same day |
| 07:42.49 | Bounty | You moving to the states? |
| 07:43.11 | IskatuMesk | no |
| 07:43.12 | IskatuMesk | same place |
| 07:43.21 | IskatuMesk | I wish though |
| 07:43.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:43.26 | IskatuMesk | everything is so much cheaper |
| 07:43.34 | Bounty | ha |
| 07:43.38 | Bounty | depends on location |
| 07:44.02 | IskatuMesk | so far most hardware I have seen here is anywhere from 20% to 200% more expensive |
| 07:44.06 | Bounty | maximize distance from major areas/cities and its cheap |
| 07:44.40 | IskatuMesk | the audio stuff I am going to get I am ordering from the US, even though the shipping fees are insane, just because the .net price is still lower than the hardware here before shipping |
| 07:45.13 | Bounty | nice |
| 07:45.31 | IskatuMesk | and people wonder why canadians boarder hop to buy |
| 07:46.00 | Bounty | Only because the US imports a shit load of stuff |
| 07:46.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:46.22 | IskatuMesk | too many monopolies and duopolies and general lack of education here |
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| 07:46.44 | Bounty | I would still prefer canada honestly |
| 07:46.50 | Bounty | for security at the least |
| 07:47.01 | IskatuMesk | I am tempted to get some satellite internet from mother russia or something if they keep raising the fucking internet costs |
| 07:47.09 | IskatuMesk | security? our crime is insane |
| 07:47.16 | Bounty | although I would choose the eastern portion of canada |
| 07:47.18 | IskatuMesk | though I live in the crime capital |
| 07:47.21 | IskatuMesk | yeah |
| 07:47.33 | IskatuMesk | toronto area seems to be a bit better off |
| 07:47.42 | Bounty | mmhmm |
| 07:47.47 | IskatuMesk | over here it's immigrants and bible belts |
| 07:47.50 | Bounty | that and its not in the Yellowstone Death Circle |
| 07:47.56 | Bounty | just in case |
| 07:47.57 | Bounty | rofl |
| 07:48.17 | IskatuMesk | I am the only actual native canadian I know |
| 07:48.38 | Bounty | Just need to avoid french/english areas |
| 07:48.42 | Bounty | unless you know both |
| 07:49.22 | IskatuMesk | I think the french are largely confined to their crib over there somewhere |
| 07:49.37 | IskatuMesk | I only know of one frenchman |
| 07:49.41 | IskatuMesk | it's all asians and east indians |
| 07:49.41 | Bounty | I've heard that french areas are highly confined |
| 07:49.44 | IskatuMesk | and americans |
| 07:49.51 | Bounty | in the sense of language |
| 07:49.56 | IskatuMesk | yeah |
| 07:50.13 | Bounty | Its like the ghetto if you speak english |
| 07:50.19 | Bounty | only a few areas |
| 07:50.20 | Bounty | avoid them |
| 07:50.22 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:50.23 | IskatuMesk | everything around where I am is like a ghetto anyways haha |
| 07:50.33 | IskatuMesk | I would never walk around unless I was packing serious heat |
| 07:50.40 | Bounty | eh its not that much better here |
| 07:50.55 | Bounty | if at all |
| 07:51.04 | Bounty | if you can afford it you can get a damn good life |
| 07:51.09 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:51.22 | Bounty | still might get jacked though |
| 07:51.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:51.51 | IskatuMesk | I guess most people here are lucky in that they are welfare and have nothing of value to steal |
| 07:51.52 | Bounty | I would like to move to Canada someday |
| 07:51.59 | Bounty | I consider that my goal really |
| 07:52.05 | IskatuMesk | I have to be careful, especially when I get the isolation shield, not to have it visible from any windows |
| 07:52.21 | IskatuMesk | anyone who can identify that would be inclined to break in and jack everything |
| 07:52.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:52.37 | Bounty | Sounds like a west vs east thing |
| 07:52.50 | IskatuMesk | I hate glass doors especially |
| 07:52.57 | IskatuMesk | they are like |
| 07:52.59 | IskatuMesk | "hey wanna rob me?" |
| 07:53.06 | Bounty | well duh |
| 07:53.08 | IskatuMesk | you can just lift them right off the track |
| 07:53.12 | Bounty | no curtains? |
| 07:53.23 | Bounty | can't own guns in canada I presume? |
| 07:53.27 | IskatuMesk | well you got curtains, but in terms of entry, most houses aren't alarmed |
| 07:53.32 | IskatuMesk | I think you can with a license in some places |
| 07:53.41 | Bounty | then get one lol |
| 07:53.46 | IskatuMesk | oh I want to |
| 07:53.47 | IskatuMesk | no money :3 |
| 07:53.51 | Bounty | =P |
| 07:53.54 | Bounty | well |
| 07:54.00 | Bounty | get a stick |
| 07:54.05 | Bounty | and carve that shit into a spear |
| 07:54.05 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 07:54.13 | IskatuMesk | I keep a hammer handy |
| 07:54.15 | Bounty | at least you have something |
| 07:54.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:54.25 | Bounty | duct tape the hammer to the spear |
| 07:54.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:54.37 | Bounty | haha |
| 07:54.42 | Bounty | that would be a badass weapon |
| 07:54.52 | Bounty | can't stab? well... swing! |
| 07:54.56 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 07:55.31 | IskatuMesk | I would like to get a heat tempered blade of some kind in the future at the least |
| 07:56.04 | IskatuMesk | house across from here was invaded like a year ago |
| 07:56.11 | IskatuMesk | and a few months ago another had a grow op fire |
| 07:56.16 | IskatuMesk | swat van and everything |
| 07:58.28 | IskatuMesk | though I hear the neighborhood we are moving into is full of east indians. They'll probably just pull some monk kung fu shit on anyone who tries to start shit |
| 07:58.43 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:58.58 | Bounty | You know if I ever invaded a house I would try to be innovative |
| 07:59.04 | Bounty | do a drop kick or something |
| 07:59.31 | IskatuMesk | I would just set loose a herd of hungry goats |
| 07:59.43 | Bounty | unless they had a gun, they it would be less of a drop kick and more of a drop. |
| 07:59.50 | IskatuMesk | amidst the chaos of furniture being eaten I could make my escape |
| 08:00.06 | Bounty | Rams |
| 08:00.18 | Bounty | Thats what you need |
| 08:00.21 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 08:00.23 | Bounty | some pissed off Rams |
| 08:00.31 | IskatuMesk | it would be glorious |
| 08:00.34 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:00.54 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrhfClIcfYM |
| 08:00.55 | Bounty | like that |
| 08:01.47 | Bounty | actually no, sorry |
| 08:01.50 | Bounty | like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jgjk3DsN7c |
| 08:01.52 | Bounty | my bad |
| 08:01.54 | Bounty | RAM CAM |
| 08:04.55 | Bounty | Of course, the intruder could just shoot him but I would presume the sheer shock that give the ram an advantage due to the delayed reaction. |
| 08:05.31 | IskatuMesk | you just need more rams |
| 08:06.12 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:06.41 | Bounty | Ideally, one would raise a tiger from birth |
| 08:06.48 | Bounty | GG |
| 08:08.52 | Bounty | Are the more "safe" areas of Canada that much more expensive IsktatuMesk? |
| 08:09.14 | Bounty | near the Eastern / Ssem Middle areas |
| 08:09.18 | Bounty | Semi* |
| 08:11.55 | IskatuMesk | probably |
| 08:12.12 | IskatuMesk | housing here is inflating wildly |
| 08:12.40 | IskatuMesk | in sort of middle canada I hear apartments start around 1600 in some places |
| 08:12.49 | IskatuMesk | which I certainly wouldn't consider safe |
| 08:12.59 | IskatuMesk | over here it's 1200 |
| 08:13.05 | IskatuMesk | so I guess one americabuck |
| 08:13.27 | Bounty | how many BR's? |
| 08:14.11 | Bounty | In my state, its minimum 15-1600 for 3BR |
| 08:14.35 | Bounty | Muribucks |
| 08:14.46 | Bounty | or Meribucks? |
| 08:14.54 | Bounty | whichever you prefer. |
| 08:15.56 | IskatuMesk | I think 1 |
| 08:16.09 | Bounty | damn |
| 08:16.25 | Bounty | I always heard Canada was cheaper |
| 08:16.39 | IskatuMesk | I haven't found anything cheaper in canada than the US yet |
| 08:16.51 | IskatuMesk | not that I do much shopping |
| 08:17.02 | Bounty | my theory is |
| 08:17.08 | IskatuMesk | though you can possibly buy really cheap chinese labor here |
| 08:17.14 | Bounty | Pennsylvania |
| 08:17.31 | Bounty | far out from Philadelphia and New York |
| 08:17.36 | Bounty | VERY cheap |
| 08:18.15 | Bounty | without having to deal with red necks |
| 08:18.24 | Bounty | and thugs |
| 08:18.42 | Bounty | although I would suggest getting a gun because when you get to that point you're kinda on your own |
| 08:18.44 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:19.57 | Bounty | or a machete to hack away all of the bushes and branches during your sprint to the neighbors. |
| 08:20.11 | Bounty | aka foilage. |
| 08:20.37 | Bounty | eh fuck it IskatuMesk, Sweden or Norway? lol |
| 08:20.47 | Bounty | >.< |
| 08:21.33 | Bounty | Alaska pays you to move there last I heard. |
| 08:23.29 | IskatuMesk | sweden or norway would be good. I think they are cold. I love cold |
| 08:23.45 | Bounty | exactly |
| 08:23.50 | Bounty | we have already agreed on this |
| 08:24.23 | Bounty | I mean up until this conversation the only problems I saw with moving to Canada was this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqVE9qfg7yI |
| 08:24.49 | Bounty | assumes this is Canada due to the use of the term "eh" |
| 08:25.17 | IskatuMesk | I've never heard anyone use "eh" |
| 08:25.27 | Bounty | ay? |
| 08:25.30 | Bounty | or w/e it is |
| 08:25.51 | IskatuMesk | this sounds more like "hey" |
| 08:26.23 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:26.32 | IskatuMesk | this has snow, he must be far far north |
| 08:26.54 | Bounty | Only thing I want to experience is the smoked meat sandwich I saw in Pure Pwnage back in the day |
| 08:27.11 | Bounty | in the sense of before I die |
| 08:27.24 | Bounty | and yeah he might even be in Alaska |
| 08:28.07 | Bounty | I assume Coyotes do not hunt in packs? If so, hes lucky lol |
| 08:28.08 | IskatuMesk | he says north BC, I assume it's far up since I am in BC and I never see more than a few mm of snow a year |
| 08:30.48 | Bounty | A pack of anything in the snow = death really |
| 08:31.00 | Bounty | Ferrets even |
| 08:31.29 | IskatuMesk | I've only seen one coyote |
| 08:31.42 | IskatuMesk | it was in our backyard for some reason, which is weird because we have no places they could live in around here |
| 08:32.01 | Bounty | Only places I've heard of them in the states is in the west |
| 08:32.05 | Bounty | aka the hottest areas |
| 08:32.25 | Bounty | on the east side we have bears and mountain lions/panthers |
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| 08:37.03 | Bounty | or pumas, so many names. |
| 08:38.04 | Bounty | but yeah IskatuMesk apparently 92 seconds CA = 1 US dollar |
| 08:38.09 | Bounty | so its not that far off |
| 08:38.12 | Bounty | did not expect that. |
| 08:39.13 | IskatuMesk | yeah but don't tell the people that |
| 08:39.15 | Bounty | I wonder if Antarctica has Verizon? |
| 08:39.20 | IskatuMesk | they might get upset our prices keep going up regardless |
| 08:39.21 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:40.00 | Bounty | I don't need to tell anyone anything, its already on the internetz |
| 08:47.57 | Bounty | right purl? |
| 08:48.19 | Bounty | ~whois purl |
| 08:48.19 | purl | i heard purl is male |
| 08:54.27 | Bounty | Anyways IskatuMesk, I hope your newfound home lacks thieves and coyotes. |
| 08:57.08 | IskatuMesk | yes |
| 09:03.50 | IskatuMesk | I guess I should try to sleep so my sleep order doesn't get fucked up on moving day |
| 09:04.02 | IskatuMesk | see y'all in hell |
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| 10:27.38 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 10:29.16 | Bounty | >.< |
| 10:31.35 | Delphinium | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.35 | Delphinium | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.35 | Delphinium | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.35 | Delphinium | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.32 | duckies | aaw |
| 10:50.46 | duckies | got any new breathtaking art screenshots delph? |
| 10:51.28 | duckies | ooh, I'm 20 min late |
| 10:51.31 | duckies | o well |
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| 11:00.49 | Ahli | I remember some heroes infos with chats/groups and one other thing Blizzard wanted to add... was that here? |
| 11:05.51 | Ahli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2Z3iexT-AM&list=UUkhdqWDHNpuIszd-tTaC1oQ look I'm on teh internet |
| 11:23.31 | Goa_ | when will I get my beta key fucking blizz:D |
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| 11:44.02 | Ahli | maybe when it's in beta |
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| 12:06.27 | Delphinium | Is anyone remember how to set an animation as the default animation of a model which will play in sc2 cutscene editor when you import it. |
| 12:32.42 | Delphinium | I saw this once in the Offical Guide, but I can't find it now. |
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| 12:53.25 | Delphinium | @_@ |
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| 14:32.43 | Guest14707 | D: |
| 14:35.54 | turtles1 | If I have an actor is there a way to find out what model it has? |
| 14:36.10 | Guest14707 | not exactly |
| 14:36.17 | Guest14707 | what are you trying to accomplish |
| 14:37.28 | turtles1 | creating visual elements dynamically |
| 14:37.40 | turtles1 | people here suggested I do so with actors |
| 14:37.48 | Guest14707 | that is the vaguest possible answer |
| 14:38.05 | turtles1 | now I'm trying to extend this by chosing which model variations I want them to have |
| 14:38.29 | Guest14707 | there's a modelswap actor message |
| 14:38.30 | turtles1 | so I'm trying to set the model variation for the actor |
| 14:38.58 | turtles1 | the model swap actor message takes two parameters. the model you want and the variation you want |
| 14:39.08 | turtles1 | hence why I want to know the model |
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| 14:39.42 | Guest14707 | model data tab? cutscene module? |
| 14:41.04 | turtles1 | Not sure what you mean. When I create the actor it has a model which is displayed in game |
| 14:41.21 | turtles1 | I want to change the ingame model to be only certain variations |
| 14:42.15 | Guest14707 | I see |
| 14:42.46 | Guest14707 | you'd have to create a different individual actor for each model variation you want to use |
| 14:43.15 | Guest14707 | (unless you're savvy with an .m3 editor which I'm guessing you're not) |
| 14:43.21 | turtles1 | nope |
| 14:43.55 | Guest14707 | actually, you could use some actor event magic |
| 14:44.02 | turtles1 | I see two other possibilities. Using catalog magic to figure out which model is ascossiated with the actor |
| 14:44.19 | Guest14707 | either way, you can use the cutscene editor to find out what each variation is named |
| 14:45.07 | turtles1 | OR restructuring the code to pass around models instead of actors, then creating a generic actor each time and sending it a model swap message when I figure out what model/variation I want it to have |
| 14:45.30 | Guest14707 | or just use the cutscene editor |
| 14:46.07 | turtles1 | Not sure how that helps me. I don't know ahead of tyime what the actor is going to be |
| 14:46.11 | turtles1 | time* |
| 14:46.37 | turtles1 | or what models are ascossiated with it |
| 14:46.55 | Guest14707 | the cutscene editor contains a list of models |
| 14:48.49 | turtles1 | I'm not sure we understand eachother. in black box terms... I want to create a function which has as input an actor and outputs a link to it's current model |
| 14:49.03 | turtles1 | wondering if that's possible |
| 14:49.36 | Guest14707 | right, and that's not quite possibly because of how actors work |
| 14:50.09 | Guest14707 | and in trying to figure out why you wanted to do that, you said, "I want to change the ingame model to be only certain variations" |
| 14:50.10 | Guest14707 | here |
| 14:50.21 | Guest14707 | give a specific example of how you would use said function |
| 14:51.15 | turtles1 | It's complicated to explain |
| 14:51.54 | turtles1 | I'm working on an extension mod trying to create a physical barrier on the map |
| 14:52.04 | Guest14707 | there's probably a better way to accomplish what you're trying to do |
| 14:52.25 | turtles1 | I'm already setting up invisible pathing blockers along the barrier but want a visual representation for the player |
| 14:53.23 | turtles1 | I would like the look of the barrier to match the maps theme/aesthetics |
| 14:54.42 | turtles1 | and you can see in functions what the maps texture set is. So I'm setting up the code such that someone else who knows the doodads/terrain editor better than me can modify what visuals to have depending on which of the 40 or so texture sets is being used |
| 14:55.48 | turtles1 | and am currently doing so by passing around actors as well as parameters to use such as spacing, angles, level of randomization, scale... and model variations |
| 14:57.31 | turtles1 | (Also I prefer to ask black box questions because whenever I don't people on mapster have a slightly annoying tendency to tell me that I don't want to do what I'm doing) |
| 14:59.01 | turtles1 | now I'm going to see if I can work some catalog magic to create a function which inputs an actor and outputs it's default model |
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| 15:12.56 | turtles1 | So, restructuring it is then. I don't actually want to pass around actors inside my code but models instead. When creating a model on the map it creates a generic actor for it to manipulate. |
| 15:14.44 | Guest14707 | @JademusSreg Starcraft/HotS Tools Engineers Team is doing a reddit AMA on monday |
| 15:18.48 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 15:18.55 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 15:19.06 | Guest14707 | it seems oddly specific |
| 15:19.35 | JademusSreg | That might be worth making an account for reddit. |
| 15:19.48 | Guest14707 | yes, actually |
| 15:20.46 | JademusSreg | I'd need to prepare some questions, address some stuff even I don't know. |
| 15:21.17 | Guest14707 | is Team 2 starcraft or warcraft? |
| 15:21.56 | JademusSreg | Dunno ther team designations. |
| 15:22.00 | JademusSreg | *there |
| 15:22.16 | Guest14707 | me neither and I can't find solid info online :( |
| 15:22.17 | JademusSreg | Their |
| 15:22.19 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 15:22.21 | Guest14707 | except T3 is diablo |
| 15:22.27 | Guest14707 | and T5 is hearthstone |
| 15:22.45 | Guest14707 | 4 is probably titan |
| 15:22.54 | JademusSreg | Warcraft came before starcraft, so team 2 could be SC. |
| 15:23.13 | Guest14707 | well, the "Warcraft" team is the MMO-team |
| 15:23.18 | JademusSreg | Pegasus and Phoenix have not been identified. |
| 15:23.26 | JademusSreg | Or at least one hasn't. |
| 15:23.33 | Guest14707 | right |
| 15:23.47 | Guest14707 | I wonder if they're gearing up to announce something tools related |
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| 15:24.32 | JademusSreg | Heroestorm editor? |
| 15:24.36 | Obscene | Hey, Someone help me real quick if you dont mind :P. http://www.newegg.com/Special/ShellShocker.aspx?cm_sp=ShellShocker-_-1758562-_-07312014_1 Would that include everything needed to build this PC? AND would it be upgradeable to have a better graphics card down the line |
| 15:25.07 | JademusSreg | Json .db for the current bnet and herostorm clients explicitly delete the editor if in a local directory. |
| 15:25.39 | Ahli | team 1 is starcraft/heroes |
| 15:25.56 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 15:27.02 | Guest14707 | @obscene that is all the pieces of a working PC. Does not include a GPU. May require a higher rated power supply depending on what GPU you get |
| 15:27.15 | Guest14707 | thanks prince ahli |
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| 15:31.02 | Guest14707 | I will be there with many questions :D |
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| 15:41.09 | Obscene | Thanks guest, While I have experience building PCs I haven't ever bought from a newegg combo |
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| 17:05.10 | mille25 | hi |
| 17:05.29 | JademusSreg | Hallo mille. =D |
| 17:05.46 | mille25 | guten abend! :D |
| 17:06.06 | Ahli | Ich wünsche dir auch einen guten Abend. |
| 17:27.28 | JademusSreg | thinks "n members & i groups totalling 3<=>15". |
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| 18:29.17 | Dustin | https://twitter.com/BlizzardCareers/status/494530991872933888 |
| 18:30.26 | mille25 | yeah saw that earlier |
| 18:30.29 | mille25 | sounds interresting. |
| 18:30.53 | mille25 | first question should be if and when all engine changes will be ported to sc2 :D |
| 18:40.36 | Ahli | how did they do the low latency in heroes, what did they change |
| 18:41.00 | mille25 | first i thought its aync actors, but then i had 1 or 2 games with delay, so it pretty much cant be. |
| 18:41.04 | mille25 | didnt have any lag after. |
| 18:42.47 | Ahli | yeah, you would see warps or something to fix the miscalculations |
| 18:42.52 | Ahli | like you do in LoL |
| 18:42.57 | Ahli | and D3 |
| 18:43.13 | Ahli | but I didn't notice anything |
| 18:43.23 | Ahli | from my point of view it was done with magic |
| 18:50.34 | Goa_ | first question should be that do you guys at Blizzard feel too that Arcade is dead:D |
| 18:59.41 | JademusSreg | How is the latency reduction question interesting? Bnet supplies the client with a value for "extra_latency"; Blizz controls the backend, they have control of that shit. |
| 19:00.31 | mille25 | JademusSreg: its still weird that there seems to be absolutely zero latency in some games. even without a minimum latency there should still be a small, noticable delay. |
| 19:00.54 | mille25 | maybe its so small i dont notice it, but i really cant feel anything at all. |
| 19:02.20 | JademusSreg | The SC2 synchronous update period is 1/16 game time seconds, which at Faster game speed is about 44ms, iirc. |
| 19:03.22 | JademusSreg | That's actually around the threshold of human perception where its possible for perception of feedback can appear to occur before input. |
| 19:03.40 | Ahli | so, why was it so horrible in sc2 all the time? |
| 19:03.47 | JademusSreg | Extra latency. |
| 19:03.54 | Ahli | why were they able to remove it? |
| 19:04.19 | Ahli | why did they have it in first place? |
| 19:04.26 | mille25 | maybe they can remove the extra latency in arcade maps in the future, or allow the mapper to set a flag if he wants to set the minimum latency to zero (some games may need a minimum latency) |
| 19:04.38 | mille25 | Ahli: as far as i know it was done to equal out chances |
| 19:04.44 | mille25 | like, for people with worse connections. |
| 19:04.46 | JademusSreg | For many of their RTS games, since their beginning rather, they've added latency to prevent connection from providing a defacto advatange. |
| 19:04.51 | JademusSreg | *de facto |
| 19:05.02 | Ahli | k |
| 19:05.20 | mille25 | its still confusing though: why would the minimum latency differ between starcraft and hots, how does that make sense? |
| 19:05.31 | mille25 | like, if its done for fairness, then why did it get removed in heroes? |
| 19:05.38 | JademusSreg | Because it is a parameter provided by bnet, sheesh. |
| 19:05.41 | mille25 | if it got removed due to noticeable delay, why is it still in arcade games? |
| 19:05.44 | mille25 | explodes. |
| 19:05.57 | Ahli | because other games don't have it and everyone not coming from sc2 complained |
| 19:06.30 | mille25 | still no reason for force this shit for arcade games and so forth. |
| 19:06.39 | mille25 | :/ |
| 19:07.15 | Ahli | sc2 is that child nobody wants as it doesn't generate income and everyone just complains about it |
| 19:07.17 | mille25 | they could just use another server for arcade games, for example. |
| 19:08.16 | mille25 | which brings us back to the default shit: |
| 19:08.26 | mille25 | we want to do all of this, but we dont have the resources, yada yada |
| 19:08.55 | Ahli | can't sell it for money -> not a priority unless game is payed subscription |
| 19:09.57 | Ahli | but heroes will be fine in future, unless Blizzard f*cks up with some mismanagement |
| 19:10.19 | mille25 | like artifacts? |
| 19:10.21 | mille25 | :D |
| 19:10.30 | Ahli | as it is just differs enough from LoL and DOTA to exist -> teamplay is so much better in heroes |
| 19:10.57 | Ahli | artifacts do not matter in solo queue matchmaking, it only matters in ladder/competetive |
| 19:11.29 | Ahli | problem with artifacts is that you can blame them for loosing as they are expensive. You have to grind for them a very long time. |
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| 19:11.42 | Ahli | also, straight damage increases aren't really interesting |
| 19:12.24 | mille25 | they are boring, bring advantages over others into a compeditive game, take too long to get |
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| 19:12.31 | mille25 | and they are not fun at all to unlock .:D |
| 19:12.41 | Ahli | buuuut unlocking is fun - Blizzard |
| 19:12.48 | Dustin|Work | Ya fuck artifacts |
| 19:12.51 | Ahli | Lock all teh things!!! |
| 19:12.58 | mille25 | "unlocking is fun... riiiiiiiiiiiiiight? -Dustin Browder 2014" |
| 19:13.03 | Dustin|Work | My mount move speed artifact is broke on reghar |
| 19:13.06 | Dustin|Work | pisses me off |
| 19:13.16 | Ahli | how? |
| 19:13.27 | Dustin|Work | Doesnnt add the extra 20% move speed in ghost wolf form |
| 19:13.30 | mille25 | Dustin|Work: technically your wolf isnt a mount. |
| 19:13.32 | mille25 | :) |
| 19:13.34 | Ahli | because that is your mount |
| 19:13.47 | Dustin|Work | I had a tycus outrun me on foot while i was in ghost form and had the 20% move speed artifacton mounts |
| 19:13.51 | Ahli | yeah... same with hammer, zagara |
| 19:13.56 | Dustin|Work | Thats lame |
| 19:14.11 | Dustin|Work | Guess ill start using the 5% move speed one |
| 19:14.14 | Ahli | tychus run and gun is good :D |
| 19:14.19 | Dustin|Work | tycus is a bitch |
| 19:14.21 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 19:14.27 | JademusSreg | Mount buff + Abathur = profit |
| 19:14.35 | mille25 | oh |
| 19:14.36 | Ahli | I've heared from that bug |
| 19:14.41 | mille25 | i forgot one thing that sucks for articats |
| 19:14.43 | Ahli | 125% mount speed increase |
| 19:14.49 | mille25 | they is one clear choice for every fucking hero. |
| 19:14.49 | Ahli | or 140 or something |
| 19:14.55 | mille25 | no choice AT ALL |
| 19:14.55 | Ahli | yeah, indeed |
| 19:14.59 | Dustin|Work | ya |
| 19:15.05 | mille25 | i mainly play support |
| 19:15.08 | mille25 | uther and malf |
| 19:15.11 | mille25 | and i was like |
| 19:15.25 | mille25 | "well... mana reg, sure. spell power? sure. and uuuh... mount speed i guess" |
| 19:15.33 | Dustin|Work | ya I play support too |
| 19:15.38 | Dustin|Work | Reghar is my new main |
| 19:15.40 | Dustin|Work | Love that shit |
| 19:15.53 | Ahli | warriors might have a choice, e.g. I don't use life% on diablo |
| 19:16.25 | Ahli | because Diablo is tanky enough with the first talent, rest goes into damage/wave clearing |
| 19:16.34 | Ahli | and CC reduction |
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| 20:40.45 | Ahli | JademusSreg: do you know stuff about hotkey files in heroes? :D |
| 20:41.36 | Ahli | Blizzard broke my mount/unmount button (it's now the button next to T for me) and I can't fix it with hotkey files for some reason... |
| 20:42.01 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 20:42.21 | JademusSreg | Are you in grid layout? |
| 20:43.46 | Ahli | http://hastebin.com/ixiqaputiq.ini is my current hotkey file that I try to make it work with |
| 20:45.02 | JademusSreg | Are they ignored or removed? |
| 20:45.26 | Ahli | camera stuff works |
| 20:45.46 | Ahli | commands stuff doesn't |
| 20:52.46 | Ahli | hah |
| 20:52.56 | Ahli | I had to move sh*t into hotkeys and not commands |
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| 21:18.06 | Ahli | http://hastebin.com/azunaxisuj.ini my only problem is that emote thing not working... in case you find anything out about it, e.g. the command or default hotkey files, I would be pleased to listen |
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| 21:49.37 | EntityEngima | hey ArcanePariah can i ask you a question? |
| 21:50.22 | EntityEngima | do you know if theres a way to have shields absorb only a certain percentage of the damage a unit takes? |
| 21:50.58 | EntityEngima | to function kinda lke armor from killing floor and doom |
| 22:06.48 | pirate | easily accomplished with damage response behavior that validates with unit has shields |
| 22:07.34 | Arcane|Work | Damage response with modify fraction |
| 22:08.01 | Arcane|Work | Possibly need to use ignore life/shield |
| 22:08.10 | Arcane|Work | No idea |
| 22:08.20 | Arcane|Work | Would require some experimentation |
| 22:09.06 | JademusSreg | Ahli, EmoteMenu doesn't work when in [Hotkey]? |
| 22:09.29 | JademusSreg | *[Hotkeys] |
| 22:10.05 | JademusSreg | Haha, this is commented out in the herostorm data: |
| 22:10.06 | JademusSreg | <!--<HotkeyInfoArray index="VideoRecord" Name="UI/Hotkey/Name/21/VideoRecord" Tooltip="UI/Hotkey/Tooltip/VideoRecord" Category="Hotkey/Category/11/UI"/>--> |
| 22:14.18 | EntityEngima | ok thx |
| 22:14.40 | JademusSreg | Interesting accidental find, seems the Automation stuff concerns interface/dialog shit. |
| 22:16.42 | Dustin|Work | Interesting |
| 22:17.30 | mille25 | for everyone who missed it btw: http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/2c8qgb/blizzard_heroes_of_the_storm_tools_engineers_ama/ |
| 22:17.59 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/395g7 |
| 22:25.42 | JademusSreg | Haven't found anything relevant to whatever hotkey categories, though. |
| 22:33.49 | pirate | finally |
| 22:34.04 | pirate | need to add a few more lines of dialog for the ending |
| 22:34.13 | pirate | but rogue star chapter 1 is essentially complete |
| 22:34.18 | JademusSreg | *dialogue |
| 22:34.24 | pirate | bitch I'll cut you |
| 22:34.52 | pirate | <3 |
| 22:35.06 | JademusSreg | At least then you could paste me somewher to correct some spelling errors? |
| 22:35.10 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:35.17 | JademusSreg | *somewhere |
| 22:55.50 | Dustin|Work | Woot, now get MP working ;) |
| 23:00.04 | Arcane|Work | Apparently the AMA is specifically about recruiting stuff. http://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/2c8qgb/blizzard_heroes_of_the_storm_tools_engineers_ama/cjdgry3 |
| 23:00.59 | Arcane|Work | I elect our dear leader, the almighty and all knowing talking/hungry Burrito ( JademusSreg) to post questions |
| 23:01.03 | Arcane|Work | :P |
| 23:01.19 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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