| 00:00.54 | Siretu | I guess that's a valid point. I think my viewers often leave the stream on and check in every now and then to see what's going on |
| 00:02.16 | DeadZergling | or why did you opt to watch anime for 5 hours tonight on a whim? |
| 00:02.36 | Bounty | my viewers should feel privileged to gaze upon my screen |
| 00:02.46 | Siretu | Having viewers motivates me not to procrastinate |
| 00:03.14 | DeadZergling | dunno if I'd feel the same way |
| 00:03.24 | DeadZergling | I'd want to put porn on for them or something |
| 00:03.27 | Siretu | I guess it's also a way to build hype and keep interest. For me, that is very important since I have a small fanbase right now |
| 00:03.28 | DeadZergling | so they don't get too bored |
| 00:03.51 | Siretu | If they see me working, they now there's content coming soon and they know what it's about. |
| 00:08.34 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/bnn5vobp45zt293/SC2Editor%202014-06-06%2020-07-20-53.jpg |
| 00:08.39 | Bounty | scale of the new map |
| 00:09.23 | DeadZergling | cool, so making a regular size map for a change |
| 00:09.45 | Bounty | regular? |
| 00:10.04 | Bounty | there are already two larger maps than the default lol |
| 00:10.08 | Bounty | as you can see |
| 00:10.11 | DeadZergling | yea, the levels seemed miniature before |
| 00:10.34 | Bounty | well this one is mostly open space |
| 00:10.42 | Bounty | not mostly but a good % |
| 00:11.08 | DeadZergling | should make one with holes in it |
| 00:11.37 | Bounty | thats what this is |
| 00:11.40 | Bounty | lol |
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| 00:15.37 | DeadZergling | so Dustin| , I played star-smash, lol |
| 00:15.48 | DeadZergling | i have just one question, wtf is with the spine crawler |
| 00:16.09 | Dustin| | waht about it |
| 00:16.17 | DeadZergling | the whole, being worthless thing |
| 00:16.23 | DeadZergling | I couldn't burrow him |
| 00:23.25 | DeadZergling | is he meant as a joke, an annoying wall/tank thing, or what? lol |
| 00:28.11 | Dustin| | Get an overlord :P |
| 00:28.14 | Dustin| | he spawns creep |
| 00:29.39 | DeadZergling | what path is he, he didn't seem to be on the zerg path |
| 00:29.54 | DeadZergling | I was rather surprised for the marauder's upgrade being a spine crawler, lol |
| 00:36.54 | DeadZergling | was also amusing to be able to burrow and wait for mineral spawns |
| 00:38.54 | Bounty | I think JademusSreg was my only viewer back in the day when I streamed mapping |
| 00:39.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:43.13 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:43.50 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 01:30.36 | Bounty | Layout for the Abyss |
| 01:30.36 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/pfta76980v012eu/Abyss01.jpg |
| 01:30.45 | Bounty | just need to add floor specific walls |
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| 03:37.00 | Bounty | is there a way to have a camera ignore terrain height |
| 03:37.36 | pirate | theres a trigger that does that |
| 03:37.48 | Bounty | what if I am going negative |
| 03:37.54 | Bounty | like, below the lowest possible terrain |
| 03:38.05 | Bounty | it jerks a lot when I go below |
| 03:38.39 | pirate | right |
| 03:38.47 | pirate | theres options to just turn off height displacement |
| 03:38.54 | pirate | and camera smoothing |
| 03:39.01 | pirate | one or both of those will do what you want |
| 03:39.17 | Bounty | yeah I did that |
| 03:40.22 | pirate | you can increase camera smoothing in camera/gameplay data |
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| 03:41.31 | Bounty | what would I set exactly? |
| 03:42.03 | Bounty | Parameter smooth height offset? |
| 03:43.33 | pirate | wat? |
| 03:43.42 | Bounty | what do I do, I don't know what any of that stuff is |
| 03:43.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:44.00 | pirate | turning off height smoothing in triggers should make terrain height have no effect on the camera |
| 03:44.32 | Bounty | do you want me to show you? |
| 03:44.50 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:44.53 | Bounty | for starters |
| 03:45.32 | pirate | right |
| 03:45.43 | pirate | turn height displacement off and your good to go? |
| 03:45.45 | pirate | whats wrong?> |
| 03:46.08 | Bounty | sec I did a 3 second video |
| 03:46.12 | Bounty | bout to show you |
| 03:48.27 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/9a2q6gsqw3mzkoc/SC2%202014-06-06%2023-44-52-33.avi |
| 03:48.29 | Bounty | pirate ^ |
| 03:49.04 | Bounty | it can be much worse at times |
| 03:50.26 | pirate | assuming youve tried with height smoothing on and off |
| 03:51.34 | pirate | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/19374-create-a-smooth-fps-camera/#p13 |
| 03:51.34 | Bounty | it used to be on |
| 03:51.48 | pirate | you def want displacement off |
| 03:52.10 | pirate | experiment with smoothing on/off and with the data settings I linked |
| 03:53.08 | Bounty | the only diff is velocity from my camera |
| 03:53.20 | Bounty | trying it now though |
| 03:53.50 | Bounty | still doing it |
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| 03:59.44 | Bounty | so yeah.. nothing is working pirate |
| 04:00.00 | pirate | eh, I'm too tired to really problem solve this right now |
| 04:00.15 | Bounty | sec, watch this |
| 04:00.38 | pirate | been drinking less coffee since the contest deadline and I crash much earlier |
| 04:01.03 | Bounty | This next video will show you exactly what it is |
| 04:01.19 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/5b72i3lv1lv319j/SC2%202014-06-06%2023-59-58-45.avi |
| 04:01.25 | Bounty | notice how it only happens at the base height |
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| 04:01.55 | Bounty | I am under the ground at the start |
| 04:02.57 | pirate | dunno |
| 04:03.02 | Bounty | ugh |
| 04:03.02 | pirate | maybe camera just not meant to go undeground |
| 04:03.06 | Bounty | Ahli, care to assist? |
| 04:03.15 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/5b72i3lv1lv319j/SC2%202014-06-06%2023-59-58-45.avi |
| 04:03.16 | pirate | increase all height variables and see what happens |
| 04:03.24 | Bounty | I am underground at the start Ahli |
| 04:03.29 | Bounty | trying to make it so you can fall into space |
| 04:03.42 | Bounty | but it is jerky as hell when you hit the terrain |
| 04:07.24 | Ahli | hmm |
| 04:08.41 | Ahli | yes, looks like the problem is the height = 0.0 |
| 04:08.58 | Bounty | well I just lowered it and it seems to fix it |
| 04:09.17 | Ahli | lowered what? |
| 04:09.23 | Bounty | the terrain height |
| 04:09.43 | Ahli | hmm, well, ok :D |
| 04:09.51 | Bounty | *whew* |
| 04:27.49 | Ahli | I'm nearly done with my antilag >_> |
| 05:23.34 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gmmrdcpabxwp9g3/Abyss.jpg |
| 05:23.40 | Bounty | watcha think Ahli? |
| 05:25.24 | Ahli | good background |
| 05:27.15 | Bounty | now I just have to efficient detect when someone plummets to their death |
| 05:27.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:27.28 | Bounty | efficiently |
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| 07:26.50 | Bounty | new map for Tessera is live on NA Goa_ |
| 07:26.55 | Bounty | in beta though lol |
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| 08:14.45 | Merc | alright, back to see if I can fix my beachball teleporting orcs |
| 08:14.56 | Merc | looks pretty hilarious though: http://i.imgur.com/C8Z0rrb.gif |
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| 08:27.05 | Zolden | what's going on? |
| 08:27.14 | Merc | Zolden the golden child has returned |
| 08:27.32 | Zolden | yes, to call you noobs |
| 08:27.44 | Merc | always appreciated |
| 08:28.04 | Merc | trying to fix my current issue but I keep getting distracted |
| 08:28.10 | Merc | current issue: http://i.imgur.com/C8Z0rrb.gif |
| 08:28.10 | Merc | :p |
| 08:28.37 | Zolden | is it a jump? |
| 08:28.42 | Merc | yeah |
| 08:28.52 | Zolden | how it's done? |
| 08:28.54 | Merc | but right now it's an awesome beach trick |
| 08:29.24 | Merc | I tried stealing the giant ursadon/yeti leap by being fancy and copying the xml over |
| 08:29.48 | Zolden | may I criticisse your approach? |
| 08:29.53 | Merc | hell yes |
| 08:30.06 | Merc | you're gonna say I was lazy and didnt do it from scratch arent you |
| 08:30.21 | Zolden | if you copy/paste, you barely learn |
| 08:30.42 | Merc | my excuse was that I just wanted to see if the jump animations worked |
| 08:31.06 | Merc | which it did at some point http://i.imgur.com/ensXZgt.gif |
| 08:31.21 | Zolden | jumps are super easy, you create launch effect, set death type to none, and missile unit to... something like none, don't reember |
| 08:32.00 | Zolden | to play jump animation, just add an event like effect -> anim play |
| 08:32.19 | Merc | know of a good tutorial to follow on the forums? |
| 08:32.37 | Zolden | any kueken's tutorial |
| 08:32.44 | Zolden | just try to do what I said |
| 08:32.47 | Zolden | realy easy |
| 08:32.54 | Zolden | without anims first |
| 08:32.56 | Merc | easy if you know what you're doing I bet :D |
| 08:33.04 | Zolden | oh, one more thing: add a mover to the launch effect |
| 08:33.40 | Zolden | just create launch effect, find death type and missile unit fields |
| 08:33.56 | Zolden | and mover |
| 08:34.07 | Merc | argh I hate that when you select a profile on the forums you cant read the posts they have made |
| 08:34.11 | Merc | only see projects |
| 08:34.25 | Merc | Kueken531 right? |
| 08:34.36 | Zolden | yea, forum engine isn't perfect |
| 08:34.39 | Zolden | yea |
| 08:35.07 | Zolden | try |
| 08:35.31 | Zolden | try "projectile" search in tutorials forum |
| 08:57.25 | Merc | 133 results found on projectile, sifting through them :P |
| 08:57.38 | Zolden | try "fireball" |
| 08:57.47 | Merc | fireball? |
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| 08:59.03 | Merc | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/ this one? |
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| 09:02.21 | Merc | gonna take my chances on this not being outdated |
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| 09:40.32 | DeadZergling | well, that nap went a lot longer than expected |
| 09:41.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 09:41.39 | Bounty | managed to finish my last map while you were asleep apparently |
| 09:43.45 | DeadZergling | that's cool, I dozed off thinking about what I could do to make DTV better |
| 09:44.07 | DeadZergling | so good at least one of us can be productive, lol |
| 09:44.31 | Bounty | >.< |
| 09:48.20 | Bounty | heres the map in action |
| 09:48.20 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwewbovsc124knr/SC2%202014-06-07%2005-32-12-13.avi |
| 09:48.29 | Bounty | take a look as well JademusSreg |
| 09:55.46 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, so decided to make it a pitfall level eh |
| 09:55.59 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity, do shielded players who get shot get a pushback? |
| 09:56.23 | Bounty | nah |
| 09:56.40 | Bounty | plus that mode is not in yet but I don't think shielded players should get pushed back |
| 09:56.42 | DeadZergling | Dissapointed: Pits are no fun without the opportunity to throw your enemies/allies into it |
| 09:57.00 | Bounty | thats what the mode is going to be |
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| 10:16.09 | DeadZergling | the fun never stops here: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/13088048729 |
| 10:16.51 | Bounty | yeah I saw that |
| 10:16.56 | Bounty | I don't even |
| 10:17.02 | Bounty | Hes probably right but still |
| 10:17.09 | Bounty | let them handled their shit lol |
| 10:17.53 | Bounty | ALTHOUGH |
| 10:17.58 | Bounty | he did promote our games DeadZergling |
| 10:17.59 | Bounty | rofl |
| 10:19.54 | duckies | reading that just leaves a bad taste in my mouth :| |
| 10:20.20 | Bounty | well he is right |
| 10:20.30 | Bounty | but I don't think he had to make a post about it though |
| 10:21.07 | DeadZergling | I don't necessarily disagree with what Setho is doing |
| 10:21.17 | DeadZergling | considering the grand butt screw they pulled on SCU |
| 10:21.30 | duckies | what did they do on scu? |
| 10:21.36 | Bounty | they DQ'd them |
| 10:21.40 | Bounty | about 2 weeks before the deadline |
| 10:21.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:21.53 | Bounty | and they were actually working on something |
| 10:21.59 | duckies | ooh |
| 10:22.03 | duckies | any post about it? |
| 10:22.06 | Bounty | nah |
| 10:22.13 | duckies | just the word of mouth? |
| 10:22.14 | Bounty | it was expected IMO |
| 10:22.20 | Bounty | mille came in here and told us |
| 10:22.37 | duckies | on what basis, like setho said "don't want featured games"? |
| 10:23.13 | Bounty | I forget what the reason was but it was pretty funny |
| 10:23.17 | Bounty | something like |
| 10:23.20 | Bounty | "It would be unfair" |
| 10:23.44 | Bounty | or mille is full of shit and there was another reason |
| 10:23.46 | Bounty | who knows >.< |
| 10:23.58 | duckies | yea, that is pretty funny |
| 10:24.36 | duckies | well, blizz rules are bull**** anyway |
| 10:24.41 | duckies | :| |
| 10:24.46 | Bounty | eh |
| 10:24.56 | Bounty | I would refer to them as more "dynamic" than bullshit lol |
| 10:25.09 | duckies | hehe |
| 10:25.22 | DeadZergling | I would refer to them as bullshit, which can be flung dynamically |
| 10:25.36 | Bounty | We could wake up tomorrow and the rules are only TD's can be submitted |
| 10:25.53 | Bounty | well, today technically |
| 10:25.56 | Bounty | 6:30 |
| 10:27.47 | Bounty | you should do what I'm doing DeadZergling |
| 10:27.54 | Bounty | upload a non contest version of your map |
| 10:27.56 | Bounty | and finish it |
| 10:28.07 | Bounty | so if we do win |
| 10:28.07 | DeadZergling | or better yet, only maps approved by wednesday night sprites can be submitted |
| 10:28.15 | Bounty | have more content |
| 10:28.42 | Bounty | yeah, you see Star Party's spike in being played? lol |
| 10:28.53 | DeadZergling | well, I been thinking about what more content to add, honestly |
| 10:29.12 | Bounty | just be careful though |
| 10:29.24 | Bounty | bc you did not upload your map as named [RTC] Death TV |
| 10:29.27 | Bounty | did you? |
| 10:29.30 | Bounty | or is it just Death TV? |
| 10:29.38 | DeadZergling | nope, just Death TV |
| 10:29.42 | Bounty | oh boy |
| 10:29.46 | DeadZergling | as I thought I'd be done |
| 10:29.53 | Bounty | you know what you could do |
| 10:29.58 | duckies | well, I've seen maps named something-something non-contest floating around |
| 10:30.01 | Bounty | well no... bc then you have to change the logo |
| 10:30.14 | Bounty | or do what duckies just said |
| 10:30.26 | Bounty | for me I update Tessera and leave [RTC] Tessera alone |
| 10:30.37 | Bounty | asked Traysent like 8 times to be sure I would not get DQ'd lol |
| 10:30.37 | duckies | but you know, you could just do "Death TV: Supereme Edition". way cooler! |
| 10:30.42 | DeadZergling | I don't see the point, honestly |
| 10:30.53 | DeadZergling | 11 reviews does not an on demand map make |
| 10:31.01 | Bounty | rename it Smash TV |
| 10:31.08 | Bounty | as the non contest version |
| 10:31.22 | Bounty | =P |
| 10:31.48 | duckies | point is, if it does get through threshold, people will get prompted to play it |
| 10:32.15 | Bounty | I hope they only pick like 10 maps as semi finalists |
| 10:32.17 | Bounty | atleast then I know I got a shot at the popular vote |
| 10:32.18 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:32.18 | duckies | so you might well try to impress them with an updated vers |
| 10:32.32 | duckies | yea, for the amount submitted, 5 is too low |
| 10:32.41 | Bounty | no no |
| 10:32.44 | Bounty | I mean for the first round |
| 10:32.50 | Bounty | 5 for finalists is fine |
| 10:32.56 | Bounty | or wait |
| 10:32.58 | Bounty | did I fuck that up? |
| 10:33.09 | duckies | you did I belive |
| 10:33.10 | Bounty | let me rephrase |
| 10:33.23 | Bounty | the first round of picks that Blizzard does should be 10 that go on to the community vote |
| 10:33.41 | Bounty | I don't think the community is capable of handling more than 10 |
| 10:33.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:33.48 | duckies | exacttly, and originally only 5 maps would get to community vote, no? |
| 10:33.59 | Bounty | nobody knows how big the community vote pool will be |
| 10:34.05 | Bounty | but the top 5 from community vote go to finals |
| 10:34.08 | Bounty | then Blizz |
| 10:35.22 | duckies | ooh, well, I've read that wrong all along :D |
| 10:35.29 | duckies | silly me |
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| 10:35.34 | duckies | that does make more sense |
| 10:36.45 | duckies | yea, in that case there is def reason to do more work if you have ideas |
| 10:37.23 | duckies | go get back to slavin' DZ! |
| 10:37.24 | duckies | =D |
| 10:38.10 | DeadZergling | whatever for, my submission already has unforgiveable issues |
| 10:38.26 | duckies | like what? >.> |
| 10:38.44 | DeadZergling | players who lose but don't leave are counted in voting |
| 10:38.59 | DeadZergling | so if your partner loses in a 2 player game, well, you gonna have a bad time |
| 10:39.13 | duckies | oh, so that's what it was |
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| 10:39.29 | DeadZergling | it is fixed, but obviously not patched |
| 10:39.39 | DeadZergling | as it was yet another fun bug I found after 05/31 |
| 10:40.01 | DeadZergling | also changed how difficulty will scale with 3 and 4 players |
| 10:40.06 | DeadZergling | as the lag was just too severe |
| 10:40.30 | duckies | well, you never know how blizz are testing, they might just play it once, and if they think it's cool let it into semi |
| 10:41.21 | Bounty | I know of 2 bugs in Tessera |
| 10:41.23 | Bounty | the RTC version |
| 10:41.34 | duckies | and when and if they announce semi-list it'll be too late to push updates |
| 10:41.56 | Bounty | I should have Tessera finished in the next few days |
| 10:41.59 | DeadZergling | what you talking about, you can't update it past 05/31 |
| 10:42.01 | Bounty | Which kinda makes me a sad panda |
| 10:42.18 | duckies | so I'd advice to release a prettier named version that if people play now they associate it with rtc submission when time comes |
| 10:42.19 | Bounty | 1 month to get it to the point it was and all I needed was like 8-9 more days |
| 10:42.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:43.28 | Bounty | Just don't encourage your players to vote based on the map you're updating |
| 10:43.45 | Bounty | They still will probably |
| 10:43.51 | Bounty | Its kinda like a jury |
| 10:44.02 | DeadZergling | I'm just not sure it is worth the effort, considering I have 11 whole reviews |
| 10:44.12 | Bounty | When something is said and the judge goes "Jury will disregard those statements" |
| 10:44.18 | Bounty | but everyone knows they wont |
| 10:44.19 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:45.25 | Bounty | thats if you have players before the voting period though |
| 10:45.33 | duckies | haveing only a buggy version on b-net doesn't help lack of exposure dz |
| 10:46.22 | DeadZergling | well no, but putting more work in, getting a new version up |
| 10:46.27 | DeadZergling | could just be locking in 2 or 3 votes |
| 10:46.29 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 10:46.47 | Bounty | you speak as if hundreds of thousands of people are going to vote |
| 10:46.54 | Bounty | be real |
| 10:47.03 | Bounty | probably a couple hundred |
| 10:47.03 | DeadZergling | of course not that many |
| 10:47.15 | Bounty | depending on the maps of course |
| 10:47.19 | DeadZergling | but you can bet that the fact SFE5 exists will get 100 votes |
| 10:47.28 | duckies | see it this way, if you fix it, I have incensive to play it again (and not suddenly have game bug out on me 1 h into game). and exposure creates more exposure |
| 10:47.42 | Bounty | lol I would be very surprised if it made it to community vote |
| 10:47.53 | DeadZergling | never know |
| 10:48.03 | Bounty | it meets zero of the judging criteria |
| 10:48.17 | DeadZergling | just saying, against actually popular games, my map is going to be hurting |
| 10:48.29 | DeadZergling | it isn't a flashy, wow how did he do that game anyways, just a well made game |
| 10:48.43 | DeadZergling | DTV I mean |
| 10:48.58 | Bounty | Blizzard has it set up this way so they can smack down the popular games that do not meet the criteria |
| 10:49.13 | Bounty | so they won't even get to community vote |
| 10:49.27 | Bounty | otherwise they would just start with a community vote |
| 10:49.53 | DeadZergling | suppose, it isn't like I'm happy with where DTV is at |
| 10:49.57 | DeadZergling | just not sure what to do about it |
| 10:50.04 | Bounty | then get the fuck on it |
| 10:50.09 | Bounty | I was not happy with Tessera lol |
| 10:50.31 | duckies | fix the bugs first, make it fully completeable and think about the rest later |
| 10:50.32 | DeadZergling | yea, but like a true idiot, I didn't post a special RTC version |
| 10:50.44 | DeadZergling | the bugs as far as I know are fixed |
| 10:50.50 | Bounty | I told you |
| 10:51.00 | Bounty | rename it to Smash TV, but keep all of the Death TV logos etc |
| 10:51.01 | DeadZergling | I been doing updates offline whenever I find a bug |
| 10:51.09 | Bounty | ppl click because of Smash TV |
| 10:51.17 | Bounty | they will see its named Death TV when playing |
| 10:51.22 | Bounty | there you go |
| 10:51.34 | duckies | ^ |
| 10:51.37 | Bounty | only change the published map name |
| 10:51.58 | DeadZergling | that makes me a little nervous though, remember that I was disqualified from entering the contest with a Smash TV name |
| 10:52.05 | DeadZergling | is why I had to change it |
| 10:52.45 | duckies | [Non-RTC]Death TV >.> |
| 10:53.03 | duckies | though no, that's a bad tag |
| 10:53.17 | DeadZergling | I'm not disagreeing Smash TV wouldn't get attention |
| 10:53.19 | DeadZergling | however |
| 10:53.22 | Bounty | DeadZergling |
| 10:53.23 | Bounty | http://thesaurus.com/browse/smash |
| 10:53.37 | duckies | Clap TV! |
| 10:53.39 | Bounty | pick a synonym |
| 10:53.40 | Bounty | lol |
| 10:53.58 | Bounty | Crash |
| 10:54.11 | duckies | Bang TV? |
| 10:54.12 | Bounty | o0o |
| 10:54.14 | Bounty | Smash-Up |
| 10:54.20 | Bounty | lol duckies |
| 10:54.24 | DeadZergling | or could be extra lame, Death TV: Dragon Edition |
| 10:54.33 | DeadZergling | has the word Dragon in it, so it must be awesome |
| 10:54.50 | duckies | Suber Death TV. worked for contra, will work for you |
| 10:54.54 | Bounty | I don't think you can do that |
| 10:54.54 | duckies | *supr |
| 10:54.57 | duckies | *super |
| 10:55.04 | Bounty | because it implies relation to the original |
| 10:55.10 | Bounty | idk |
| 10:55.13 | Bounty | ask Traysent |
| 10:55.25 | Bounty | or would you like me to for you |
| 10:55.41 | DeadZergling | maybe, I'm just feeling kind of stuck atm |
| 10:55.52 | duckies | as in "[rtc] tessera" and "tessera" doesn't imply relation to one another :3 |
| 10:56.01 | Bounty | apparently not duckies |
| 10:56.07 | Bounty | thats why I asked Tray like 8 times |
| 10:56.11 | Bounty | if it was ok |
| 10:57.18 | DeadZergling | most people aren't as familiar with Super C as C |
| 10:57.21 | duckies | I think you should just ask on behalf of DZ about it bounty. maybe will make that slacker feel less stuck |
| 10:57.25 | DeadZergling | I found Super C to be easier, honestly |
| 10:57.38 | Bounty | I'll ask him on Monday |
| 10:57.47 | Bounty | remind me Sunday just in case lol |
| 10:58.18 | DeadZergling | slacker huh, forgetting how many hours I put in on that, duckies ? :P |
| 10:58.29 | DeadZergling | quite a few hours went into that Raven too |
| 10:58.38 | duckies | you're slacking now, and now is all that matters |
| 10:58.43 | Bounty | ^ |
| 10:58.44 | duckies | harr! |
| 10:59.16 | Bounty | oh btw duckies |
| 10:59.23 | Bounty | you see the final Tessera map? :) |
| 10:59.34 | DeadZergling | speaking of slackers, noticed you never left me a review, duckies :P |
| 10:59.43 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/pwewbovsc124knr/SC2%202014-06-07%2005-32-12-13.avi |
| 11:00.08 | duckies | I'll leave a review on a new updated version once I legitly beat final boss |
| 11:00.39 | duckies | yea bounty, the pits make me want to try it again |
| 11:01.02 | Bounty | hopefully I can pull off the push mode |
| 11:01.20 | duckies | they are more aestethically pleasing than being stuck in a cardhouse-cube mode :D |
| 11:01.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 11:01.34 | Bounty | ironically |
| 11:01.42 | Bounty | I tried out having the skybox show on all maps |
| 11:01.49 | Bounty | it actually makes all the other maps feel better |
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| 11:03.13 | duckies | yea, there is something nice about that freedom |
| 11:04.07 | Bounty | they are still in their boxes |
| 11:04.16 | Bounty | but you can see the skybox through the walls |
| 11:04.21 | Bounty | >.< |
| 11:04.29 | Bounty | only that map has the whole open + pits thing |
| 11:04.38 | duckies | poor caged gladiators :D |
| 11:04.42 | DeadZergling | just a few problems |
| 11:04.51 | DeadZergling | one, no idea what to name a new version |
| 11:05.02 | DeadZergling | two, only thing I can think of to add is more bosses |
| 11:05.21 | Bounty | well that is really what your game is all about |
| 11:05.30 | Bounty | make more enemies, bosses and levels |
| 11:07.53 | Bounty | speaking of synonyms |
| 11:07.58 | Bounty | need to come up with a name for this push mode |
| 11:08.12 | Bounty | http://thesaurus.com/browse/push |
| 11:08.41 | duckies | I like Super DTV =/, you know, the old era naming convention. Second thing, you could try very hard to add more exciting screenshots. And worry about all else after what's currently needs to be done is done |
| 11:08.43 | Bounty | Poke mode |
| 11:09.16 | duckies | Poké-mode? |
| 11:09.55 | Bounty | I'm thinking "Jolt" or "Propulsion" |
| 11:10.14 | duckies | I'm thinking nothing describes "push" better than "push" |
| 11:10.24 | Bounty | but its a lame mode name |
| 11:10.28 | Bounty | Team Push |
| 11:10.30 | Bounty | FFA Push |
| 11:10.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 11:11.13 | duckies | what do you do in that mode again, only way to kill is to push played down into the pit? |
| 11:11.45 | Bounty | yeah |
| 11:11.51 | Bounty | the beam pushes people |
| 11:11.56 | Bounty | instead of killing |
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| 11:12.42 | duckies | yea, I have no idea what a name for that could be :D |
| 11:13.01 | Bounty | and sicne I don't know how to make it push in 3 dimensions |
| 11:13.10 | Bounty | I'm going to make it cut off your jump lol |
| 11:13.25 | Bounty | so if you jump and are hit you will immediately start falling |
| 11:13.54 | Bounty | Many lulz will be had |
| 11:14.12 | Bounty | hitting someone, fucking up their jump and watching them slowly plummet |
| 11:14.17 | Bounty | >.< |
| 11:29.57 | Renee | http://bbs.islga.org/data/attachment/forum/201406/07/192837mbeokenkunz8km3e.jpg It's the middle of the year,stills no news about that 'official wc3 model pack' |
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| 11:36.24 | duckies | t_t, yea, wc3 model pack is probaly in the better place now. Chilling and laughing with it's buddies "marketplace" and "scrapped models". |
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| 11:59.31 | DeadZergling | still there, duckies ? |
| 11:59.48 | duckies | y |
| 12:01.03 | DeadZergling | been thinking about more bosses |
| 12:01.44 | DeadZergling | some ideas I had were, Kerrigan, Scorpion Queen of Spider Mines? and Swarm Prime, a Swarm based boss |
| 12:01.58 | DeadZergling | but hitting a wall here, trying to think of bosses I haven't done yet |
| 12:04.26 | duckies | honestly, all of your bosses were pretty surprising for me, excluding first one, so I have litte idea in that departament |
| 12:04.40 | Merc | arr |
| 12:04.47 | Merc | been following this tutorial http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/ |
| 12:05.02 | DeadZergling | hopefully surprising = good, lol |
| 12:05.03 | Merc | but when I come to this part "Set Impact Effect to Fireball Impact" |
| 12:05.13 | Merc | there's no field named Impact Effect |
| 12:05.33 | Merc | is it Combat: Host Impact Source - Combat: Effect ? |
| 12:07.18 | DeadZergling | impact effect, that should be under missile effect, no? |
| 12:07.30 | duckies | that is true |
| 12:07.44 | Merc | oh shit nvm it's under Token |
| 12:07.46 | Merc | goddamn |
| 12:07.56 | duckies | oh, the actor one |
| 12:07.57 | duckies | D: |
| 12:08.06 | duckies | yea, surprising in a good way |
| 12:08.14 | DeadZergling | I still helped, me saying that jogged his memory somehow, lol |
| 12:14.29 | DeadZergling | oh well no worries, just thought I'd ask |
| 12:14.40 | Bounty | Chicken boss |
| 12:14.42 | DeadZergling | since you have probably played that game the most of anyone besides me |
| 12:33.22 | Merc | arr |
| 12:33.49 | Merc | I've come to the part where I am supposed to add an animation to the firebat |
| 12:33.57 | Merc | "Select the Firebat - Actor |
| 12:34.00 | Merc | "Open Event - Events + and add the following Event: |
| 12:34.03 | Merc | "Abil.Fireball.SourcePrepStart |
| 12:34.06 | Merc | "AnimPlay Spell Attack |
| 12:34.39 | Merc | Fireball turns into "UnknownAbility" and after selecing Animation Play I cant find anything called Spell Attack |
| 12:35.27 | Merc | just gonna select something in there and see what happens |
| 12:35.55 | Siretu | Isn't there a dropdown menu called animation properties? |
| 12:35.59 | Ahli | event window displays the IDs rather than the editor names |
| 12:36.00 | Siretu | select "Spell" |
| 12:36.18 | Siretu | when you select an animation property, it will give you another dropdown menu |
| 12:36.22 | Merc | I selected both Spell and Attack :P |
| 12:36.33 | Siretu | Okay, that should be correct. |
| 12:36.38 | Merc | cool, thanks |
| 13:01.29 | DeadZergling | hope beating DeadZergling legit wasn't too important to you duckies, he ate 15 lives when I killed him, lol |
| 13:05.37 | duckies | just the possibility of beating him is fine |
| 13:05.45 | DeadZergling | hehe yea, I won a playthrough legit |
| 13:05.55 | DeadZergling | but he is still a cheater |
| 13:06.05 | duckies | wouldn't have it any other way |
| 13:07.45 | DeadZergling | the powerups existing actually make it a little easier for him to hit you |
| 13:08.44 | duckies | in what way? they lure you to go where ou shouldn't? |
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| 13:13.16 | DeadZergling | granted, I'm a little sad I never beat him pre-fix, only got him to 65 % |
| 13:15.28 | Ahli | good news, everybody. my antolag seems to work fine ;D |
| 13:15.49 | DeadZergling | Oh happy days! |
| 13:16.29 | DeadZergling | by the way duckies, do you agree that Area2 is too easy? |
| 13:18.03 | duckies | no I do not :D |
| 13:18.23 | duckies | though I only played it about 5 times |
| 13:18.43 | duckies | so hard to tell. one thing i noticed though is that it isn't as fast as A1 |
| 13:19.22 | duckies | or was it A3, I don't remember, just remember thinking that it started to drag on a bit |
| 13:22.37 | DeadZergling | yea, some stages still do that... |
| 13:22.51 | DeadZergling | I tried to jack up the spawn rate in all sluggish areas, but some slipped through |
| 13:24.55 | DeadZergling | Drusus, such a classy fellow: I don't think Blizzard will do this though since they're cheap. |
| 13:26.19 | DeadZergling | wish I knew what to do w/ DTV, lol |
| 13:26.27 | DeadZergling | been racking my brain, trying to think of what must be done |
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| 13:50.24 | Ahli | editor lacks a copy of point function |
| 14:06.00 | Tomura | ? |
| 14:07.53 | Tomura | BTW is your Top Down shooter playable, would like to see how it performs in contrast to when we made one for insc |
| 14:18.14 | Ahli | kind of, yes. but I need to figure out a few antilag cases to prevent instant gibbing when the unit died. To gib wounded players, you need to target within their circle, vs non-wounded, you usually aim behind as your weapon's target point is offset from the mouse pointer. |
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| 14:28.51 | Ahli | you give fire commands at the other side of a wall at a player. while the input is travelling, the wall dies => where do your bullets go? |
| 14:35.14 | Ahli | A: all hit the other player giving worse connections an advantage as they will hit more than e.g. a 0-delay player, B: everything is fired where the wall was (-> you keep shooting at dead things) C: everything is fired on target positions of the now state? |
| 14:40.29 | DeadZergling | is there a way to temporarily boost a unit's push priority? |
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| 14:55.59 | pirate | Top Played list is so fickle |
| 14:56.31 | pirate | wheres the scripts that troll battle.net profiles and estimate how many people are playing my map |
| 15:12.59 | DeadZergling | Quickly, break out the tiny violins, Dogmai needs you! http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/13019672287?page=2 |
| 15:20.33 | pirate | "15,000+ man hours" is a gross overstatement |
| 15:21.37 | DeadZergling | I just read it as oh boo-hoo, we are doomed no matter what |
| 15:21.59 | DeadZergling | damn the luck, us making a game other people don't like isn't a great success |
| 15:23.02 | pirate | dogmai has always seemed a tad dramatic to me |
| 15:24.58 | DeadZergling | yea, he is rather that |
| 15:25.14 | pirate | I mean, even his entrance to the scene |
| 15:25.29 | pirate | the slow release of mysterious symbols |
| 15:25.33 | pirate | so much hype |
| 15:25.38 | pirate | ....for a hero arena |
| 15:26.56 | pirate | as for the 15k hours comment |
| 15:27.49 | pirate | I've realistically put about 800 hours into rogue star over six months |
| 15:28.25 | pirate | before that I've probably put in about the same to misc projects and learning the editor combined (maybe a bit more - didn't rigorously track that) |
| 15:29.49 | Merc | I've unrealistically put about 1 hours into learning how to make a goddamn orc jump |
| 15:30.34 | Merc | at least I managed to get the firebat shoot fireballs too after following zolden's suggestions |
| 15:30.37 | DeadZergling | perhaps he means 15k in dog hours? |
| 15:30.53 | pirate | lol |
| 15:32.16 | DeadZergling | otherwise, he thinks he has put in 625 days into one above average hero arena |
| 15:32.30 | Merc | can anyone take a quick look at this tutorial: |
| 15:32.31 | DeadZergling | or 313 days a piece between him and drye |
| 15:32.33 | Merc | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/ |
| 15:32.45 | Merc | and check if the part |
| 15:32.46 | Merc | Select the Firebat - Actor |
| 15:32.46 | Merc | Open Event - Events + and add the following Event: |
| 15:32.46 | Merc | Abil.Fireball.SourcePrepStart |
| 15:32.47 | Merc | AnimPlay Spell Attack |
| 15:32.51 | pirate | merc I'm making you a demo map for how I did leap |
| 15:32.51 | Merc | is still correct |
| 15:33.06 | Merc | dude no need |
| 15:33.11 | Merc | I gotta learn this, not copy shit :P |
| 15:33.33 | pirate | that will play the attack animation when the unit starts prepping fireball |
| 15:33.35 | DeadZergling | have you watched OneTwo's fireball tutorial on youtube? |
| 15:33.39 | Merc | I sorta have a leap now, but the damn animations wont play |
| 15:33.55 | DeadZergling | firebat animations are a little, annoying |
| 15:34.07 | DeadZergling | be happier with another unit, lol |
| 15:34.34 | DeadZergling | let me see what I did to make my firebat do what I wanted, anyways |
| 15:35.01 | Merc | I just need to know if that "anim play spell attack" still makes sense |
| 15:35.04 | Merc | cause it doesnt to me |
| 15:35.15 | DeadZergling | doesn't to me either |
| 15:35.17 | Merc | I could make the firebat shoot fireballs just fine |
| 15:35.19 | DeadZergling | is that even a firebat animation? |
| 15:35.26 | Merc | but I cant make him do an animation |
| 15:35.45 | Merc | and I cant make my orc fella do an animation when starting Dehaka Leap either |
| 15:36.15 | DeadZergling | didn't think so |
| 15:36.21 | DeadZergling | Spell Attack won't ever work |
| 15:36.27 | DeadZergling | however, I think you are misreading it |
| 15:36.48 | DeadZergling | He means, Name: Spell |
| 15:36.54 | DeadZergling | Animation Properties: Attack |
| 15:37.27 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/ZMExEua.png here's how I got it now |
| 15:37.35 | Merc | at least it looks exactly like it says in the tutorial |
| 15:37.54 | Merc | brb |
| 15:38.06 | DeadZergling | looks okay, but is a strong chance the firebat model is being bad |
| 15:38.16 | DeadZergling | you might be happier using a nice marine model :P |
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| 15:53.55 | Ahli | check animation names in cutscene editor |
| 15:57.00 | pirate | who is 'ability' in the arcade forums? |
| 15:58.12 | Ahli | drama, where where where? |
| 15:58.19 | pirate | hm? |
| 15:59.56 | Ahli | expects drama if something like this is asked |
| 16:00.28 | pirate | oh, there' just a lot forum rabble about new vs old vs previously featured submissions maps |
| 16:01.11 | pirate | and 'Ability' (team notd?) name dropped his blizzard contact |
| 16:01.39 | pirate | which happens to be one of the blizzard accounts I stumbled upon in my sleuthing |
| 16:01.50 | pirate | based on names |
| 16:02.01 | Ahli | read drusus posts, lololol http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/13019672287?page=2 |
| 16:02.10 | Ahli | that is so going to be moderated |
| 16:02.22 | pirate | what a bunch of jokers |
| 16:14.11 | pirate | bibendus - which is the most recent version of hive keeper on NA? |
| 16:15.08 | Ahli | look at patchnotes? |
| 16:15.34 | pirate | they're identical |
| 16:21.36 | Ahli | identical versions it is |
| 16:21.43 | Ahli | most likely 1 rtc, one that will be maintained |
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| 16:50.31 | Merc | god damnit |
| 16:50.47 | Merc | I got it working with AnimBracketStart |
| 16:50.53 | Merc | instead of AnimPlay |
| 16:50.57 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:51.02 | Merc | the tutorial says animplay |
| 16:51.05 | Zolden | don't forget to anim bracket stop |
| 16:51.12 | Merc | yeah gonna do that now on target land |
| 16:51.24 | Zolden | are you using launch effect? |
| 16:51.37 | Merc | well I did the fireball tutorial |
| 16:51.47 | Merc | didnt get the very last part working |
| 16:51.48 | Zolden | launchin itself was added relatively late, so tutorial may not know it |
| 16:52.13 | Merc | kinda went back to experimenting with the dehaka jump I already gave my orc |
| 16:52.42 | Merc | added Abil.DehakaLeap.SourceCastStart with AnimBracketStart Jump Jump |
| 16:52.48 | Merc | and it worked fine as shit |
| 16:53.02 | Merc | but in the tutorial for firebat it said AnimPlay |
| 16:53.07 | Merc | which was kinda confusing |
| 16:53.16 | Merc | I just used AnimBracket now because I saw that was being used for Attack |
| 16:53.20 | Merc | what is the difference? |
| 16:53.35 | Zolden | dunno |
| 16:53.54 | Merc | that tutorial was awesome btw, think I learned enough to experiment now |
| 16:53.58 | Merc | so thanks |
| 16:55.05 | Merc | oh and apparently the Firebat doesnt even have "Spell" animation |
| 16:55.07 | Merc | durr |
| 17:06.16 | Merc | awesome |
| 17:06.22 | Merc | works like a goddamn charm |
| 17:06.42 | Merc | added stuff that clears animation in case movement is queued up as well |
| 17:09.08 | Zolden | right |
| 17:19.17 | Merc | hmh, seems it bugs out the second time you cast the spell |
| 17:19.38 | Merc | guess I gotta add clears for everything to clean up? |
| 17:22.32 | Zolden | do anything to perform anim bracket stop |
| 17:22.47 | Zolden | you can simply use timer if jump time is constant, it will cover all situations |
| 17:25.01 | pirate | zolden - you still helping people with modeling shit? |
| 17:25.29 | Zolden | i'm afraid not |
| 17:25.40 | Zolden | i give advices, but don't make models |
| 17:26.04 | pirate | dont need maded - just imported from wow (single model) since the importer is still borked |
| 17:26.22 | Zolden | that winged monster? |
| 17:26.23 | pirate | but maybe you know-- the demon form / illidan models were broken for a long time |
| 17:26.24 | pirate | yeah |
| 17:26.35 | pirate | has that been overcome? |
| 17:26.41 | Zolden | he has predator face |
| 17:26.49 | Zolden | i don't know |
| 17:27.03 | Zolden | never tried to get illidan |
| 17:27.13 | Merc | I can give it a try |
| 17:27.27 | pirate | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/art-assets/67255-request-wow-demon-form-model/#p1 |
| 17:27.29 | Merc | kinda got this fucker working now |
| 17:27.55 | Merc | which animations do you want |
| 17:28.20 | pirate | Stand [9] Attack1H [25] AttackOff [1] CustomSpell01 [47] CarrionSwarm [52] Death [48] Hover [4] FlyToGround [17]Land [16] LiftOff [18]ToHover[20] Run [22] ParryUnarmed [63] |
| 17:28.48 | pirate | er, not FlyToGround [17] LiftOff [18] |
| 17:28.55 | pirate | but the others |
| 17:29.12 | pirate | hidden boss |
| 17:37.50 | Merc | seems good so far |
| 17:38.50 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/i5pbQUM.png |
| 17:39.19 | Merc | I'll fix textures and animations |
| 17:39.31 | Merc | good practice for me |
| 17:42.52 | pirate | win / win |
| 17:44.01 | pirate | if you wanna get really crazy you could add some crystals to him -- he's supposed to be: |
| 17:44.02 | pirate | http://www.smrpglegacy.com/Super%20Mario%20RPG%20-%20Boss%20Pictures/culex.gif |
| 17:44.10 | pirate | but entirely unnecessary |
| 17:44.45 | Merc | dont have a bigger image? :p |
| 17:44.53 | pirate | CTL + |
| 17:45.19 | pirate | only so much can be done with a 16 bit sprite |
| 17:45.45 | Merc | make wings orange and give him a skirt of crystals then |
| 17:46.00 | pirate | I feel like orange wings would look ugly |
| 17:47.06 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:47.19 | pirate | ahoy |
| 17:47.20 | Merc | no turning back now m8 |
| 17:47.25 | pirate | oh deaer |
| 17:47.46 | Merc | actually his wings is a seperate mesh |
| 17:48.00 | Merc | so you can theoretically give him whatever hue you want with that fancy textureidreplace of yours |
| 18:01.48 | Merc | landing animation seems a bit bugged |
| 18:01.49 | Merc | weird |
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| 18:02.48 | Merc | same with the takeoff animation |
| 18:02.51 | Merc | goes through the floor |
| 18:03.03 | Merc | just gonna give it to you as it is and try to fix in a revision |
| 18:03.16 | pirate | dont need right now |
| 18:03.27 | pirate | boss is last thing I'm gonna add before I launch chapter 1 |
| 18:04.23 | pirate | I suspect FlyToGround [17] LiftOff [18] will be bugged too but maybe try those instead of Land [16] ToHover[20] on next attempt |
| 18:04.31 | Zolden | yea, now I understand why I don't like helping people with models anymore, I've been practicing helping people, now i learned everything and don't need that knowledge anymore, so no reason to help ;/ |
| 18:04.53 | Zolden | i was selfishly learning, instead of kindly helping |
| 18:04.59 | Merc | you dick |
| 18:05.35 | pirate | if you're just realizing this about zolden now... |
| 18:06.40 | Merc | this jump animation is badass |
| 18:06.47 | Merc | zolden is awesome, he's been helping me a lot |
| 18:09.30 | Zolden | helping by sharing knowledge is an ancient instinct that is actually reward based: evolutuion forced brain to feel good when it shares useful information |
| 18:09.37 | Zolden | so it's still selfishness |
| 18:10.12 | Charys | i think that 'feel good' is from helping anyone in general... |
| 18:10.27 | Charys | i.e. the only time money makes you happy is when you're giving it away |
| 18:10.38 | Merc | helping people = gaining social status |
| 18:12.21 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdhj4by9yf99mdj/demonform.rar |
| 18:12.27 | Merc | oh nvm hang on |
| 18:12.46 | Zolden | yes, brains rewarding that kind of activity for different reasons: person who shares useful info increases society chances of surviving, and also gains social points |
| 18:13.05 | Merc | social status = survival |
| 18:13.13 | Merc | for your genes |
| 18:13.18 | Zolden | yea |
| 18:13.19 | Merc | because social status = fuck bitches |
| 18:13.48 | Zolden | social status also is low chances of being banned from the society and die alone, because humans are social monkeys |
| 18:14.15 | Merc | yup |
| 18:14.43 | Merc | so basically since I am the tiny weak monkey in this group |
| 18:14.49 | Merc | I gotta eat pirate's lice |
| 18:14.59 | Merc | which is fine for me because lice are yummy |
| 18:15.13 | Merc | pirate: |
| 18:15.16 | Merc | huh |
| 18:15.23 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/gdhj4by9yf99mdj/demonform.rar |
| 18:15.24 | Merc | there we go |
| 18:15.37 | Merc | textures with normals, emissive, speculars etc |
| 18:15.42 | Merc | zolden would nod approvingly |
| 18:15.59 | Merc | hover start and hover end are a bit buggy though |
| 18:16.02 | pirate | huzzah |
| 18:16.20 | Merc | also, no orange wings or crystals |
| 18:16.25 | Merc | that would take more time |
| 18:16.33 | Merc | can fix that for next version |
| 18:16.42 | pirate | granted |
| 18:16.43 | Merc | need vol_targets and hit boxes too |
| 18:16.56 | Merc | and base attach points |
| 18:17.03 | Merc | damn I forgot that |
| 18:17.14 | pirate | welcome to the credits of rogue star |
| 18:17.39 | Merc | ty for the lice |
| 18:18.11 | Merc | I'll add weapon points for left and right hand tomorrow |
| 18:18.15 | Merc | now I gotta steal the TV |
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| 19:02.49 | Zolden | catapults a bunch of fat pig penises to a place where duckies is supposedly hiding |
| 19:06.57 | duckies | slingshots a bunch of suicidal birds at zoldens pig penises and changes his location |
| 19:14.46 | Zolden | upgrade screen in my unity shmup http://i.snag.gy/YbG58.jpg |
| 19:22.40 | Charys | i'm looking for WoW terrain textures. i was able to find a couple on google, but i'm hoping someone knows a site that would ideally have them all in a pack? or at least some |
| 19:26.21 | Merc | should be able to extract all of them from wow mpq packets |
| 19:40.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster Delphinium (jifengxian@60.166.119.153) |
| 19:42.47 | Delphinium | Got a terrible link speed to SC2mapster. |
| 19:43.44 | Delphinium | How can a 1M size picture and edited message needs 5 mins to refresh... |
| 20:00.59 | A1win_ | curse network is terrible when it comes to servers and web software |
| 20:01.12 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 20:02.59 | Zolden | yea, it's very slow, even slower than hitler moustache growing |
| 20:03.20 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/50/131/31.gif |
| 20:03.52 | Delphinium | I did this, an interesting effect |
| 20:03.52 | Zolden | is it hexagon of black spots? |
| 20:04.19 | Delphinium | And zolden, I can send you the plane(?) model |
| 20:04.30 | Zolden | it looks similar to new year sparkler/bengal light |
| 20:04.44 | Delphinium | But I have not do any animamtions or other modifications. |
| 20:04.58 | Zolden | Delphinium great, can you pm it to me on mapster? |
| 20:05.11 | Zolden | I'd like to have max file if it's possible |
| 20:05.27 | Zolden | because I don't wnat to ruin it with m3 export |
| 20:05.31 | Zolden | *import |
| 20:05.42 | Delphinium | I have an obj file. |
| 20:05.51 | Zolden | yea, obj is fine |
| 20:06.34 | Zolden | again: upgrade screen of my unity shmup game, any random notes? http://i.snag.gy/YbG58.jpg |
| 20:06.36 | Delphinium | http://www.sendspace.com/file/2xmbif |
| 20:07.13 | Zolden | 5 download buttons |
| 20:07.20 | Zolden | hope i'm lucky |
| 20:07.47 | Zolden | no i'm not |
| 20:07.59 | Delphinium | The one that looks ugly. |
| 20:08.06 | Zolden | Delphinium pm it on mapster pls, i don't have antivirus to try all download buttons there |
| 20:08.08 | Delphinium | should be the right one. |
| 20:08.30 | Zolden | i think there's something with my browser, it refused to dl due to sertificate issue |
| 20:08.55 | Delphinium | too bad that the link speed to SC2mapster is " slower than hitler moustache growing" |
| 20:10.01 | Zolden | it's ok, i have time |
| 20:10.23 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/49267-sc2-particle-test-of-star-tools/?page=23#p455 |
| 20:10.23 | Zolden | there's no hostile allies under my city walls |
| 20:10.26 | Delphinium | the attachment |
| 20:10.48 | Zolden | oh yeah, thanks |
| 20:11.13 | Zolden | if it look cool enough, it will be a boss |
| 20:11.23 | Delphinium | I have found that when the file is smaller than 1M, it's faster. |
| 20:12.00 | Zolden | well, when hitler moustache are small, they grow noticably fast |
| 20:18.13 | Ahli | na mapnight going or something? |
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| 20:28.19 | Bounty | peow |
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| 20:29.00 | Merc | pow |
| 20:30.34 | Ahli | anyone up for a maptest on NA? |
| 20:30.49 | Merc | I'm being pulled away any minute, sorry |
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| 21:32.13 | el-prez | Ahli, why NA? |
| 21:32.17 | el-prez | Are you not a true proud German. |
| 21:33.00 | Ahli | because there is mapnight or something |
| 21:33.10 | Ahli | but atm I have a bug that players can't be hit :D |
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| 22:20.49 | Ahli | tomura, you wanted to test my shooter |
| 22:21.04 | Tomura | yup |
| 22:21.20 | Ahli | time, in a minute? |
| 22:21.34 | Tomura | yes |
| 22:22.38 | Bounty | there is an NA mapnight tonight? |
| 22:28.50 | Zolden | Ahli: your what? |
| 22:46.18 | Ahli | my shooter map I'm currently making |
| 22:47.38 | Zolden | shooter sounds like action |
| 22:48.15 | Ahli | but I have to find the neverending loop now that me and tomura experienced |
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| 22:55.58 | pirate | arcane! |
| 22:56.14 | pirate | I have questions for you about magazines and ammo units |
| 22:56.53 | Zolden | why someone should rate pi? the constant doesn't care about your opinions |
| 22:59.57 | ArcanePariah | pirate, fire away |
| 23:01.14 | pirate | I want to abuse the follow unit pathfinding of AI of ammo units in a magazine - is it possible to dynamically add and remove an existing unit from a magazine |
| 23:01.34 | pirate | to turn the following behavior on and aoff |
| 23:02.52 | ArcanePariah | In data only, no, but with triggers I believe it would be possible |
| 23:03.49 | ArcanePariah | You would store the type of the existing unit, then remove it from the game, then do a catalog write to the magazine ability - magazine unit to be of the same type, then add 1 to the ammo |
| 23:03.55 | pirate | that's fine - have any ideas where to start? I know very little on magazines and using triggers to add ammo units seems to create a new one from scratch each time? |
| 23:04.09 | pirate | ah |
| 23:04.28 | ArcanePariah | Well, if you want to preserve state, you would need to store the state of the existing unit and apply it the ammo unit |
| 23:04.41 | ArcanePariah | Life/shields/etc. |
| 23:04.54 | pirate | rigth |
| 23:05.07 | pirate | not as important as I reset that at battle init anyway |
| 23:06.03 | pirate | but Id like the ammo unit pathing functionality for your ally units in 'roam' mode between battles but keep allies able to do their own thing in battles |
| 23:06.29 | pirate | this is sounding like an overly complex solution to a low priority problem |
| 23:08.59 | ArcanePariah | Maybe, would be 2 functions |
| 23:09.32 | ArcanePariah | But the catalog replace does work, just tested, my broodlord has 2 marines escorting :d |
| 23:10.50 | pirate | I dont want to remove the unit to turn the escort off though |
| 23:11.07 | ArcanePariah | You would not need to |
| 23:11.13 | ArcanePariah | See Release magazine effect |
| 23:11.19 | pirate | oh |
| 23:11.41 | ArcanePariah | That effect specificall makes the units into independent ones |
| 23:12.40 | pirate | okay, that does sound like what I want |
| 23:12.55 | ArcanePariah | Also, to release many units, use a iterate magazine effect |
| 23:13.02 | ArcanePariah | on the caster |
| 23:13.24 | ArcanePariah | So you can iterate over all ammo units and run the release effect and free them all |
| 23:13.57 | ArcanePariah | Iterate can also apply filters against the ammo units so you can be selective of which ones get released |
| 23:15.10 | ArcanePariah | That fix up your problem? |
| 23:15.47 | pirate | I'll have to experiment when I get the editor running |
| 23:16.28 | pirate | but you still have to remove a unit as opposed to converting it into an ammo unit (to 'capture' so to speak) |
| 23:17.34 | ArcanePariah | As far as I know, yes. |
| 23:33.35 | Repo | New map: Domination - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/domination/ |
