| 00:00.24 | Bounty | just need to make sure your game runs well on peoples PC's |
| 00:00.56 | Bounty | aim for a steady 120fps at all times if you can =P |
| 00:04.05 | Vindicator | lol |
| 00:04.14 | Vindicator | nice goal |
| 00:07.44 | Bounty | I managed to achieve it in Tessera |
| 00:07.50 | Bounty | never drop below 120 fps and its a fps |
| 00:07.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:27.01 | pirate | I aim for 70fps on ultra on my 4 year old machine |
| 00:29.43 | pirate | so much to do |
| 00:29.48 | pirate | for five days time |
| 00:37.27 | Bounty | yep yep |
| 00:37.35 | Bounty | i am just now finishing up the 3rd map |
| 00:37.46 | Bounty | then just gotta add 3 more modes and I'm good to go |
| 00:46.02 | Caz | how do i check the f/s ? |
| 00:46.20 | Bounty | f/s? |
| 00:46.39 | Caz | seemed a better abbrevaion than fps which already stands for first person shooter |
| 00:46.43 | Caz | frams / second |
| 00:46.47 | Caz | frames* |
| 00:46.49 | pirate | I use fraps |
| 00:46.58 | Caz | i'm sure u frap all teh time |
| 00:47.00 | Caz | :p |
| 00:47.12 | pirate | too busy coding in my BEAUTIFUL SCRIPT |
| 00:47.35 | Caz | hehe |
| 00:47.54 | Caz | maximize potential until 1 handed coding is sufficient. |
| 00:48.10 | Caz | everyone should be able to fap to their own code |
| 00:50.21 | pirate | anyone wanna play the first half of rogue star and let me watch? |
| 00:50.22 | pirate | :D |
| 00:50.32 | pirate | I wanna take a break from making boss abilities... |
| 00:54.43 | Caz | jademusSreg around? |
| 00:55.13 | pirate | likely lurking |
| 00:55.17 | pirate | what do you require? |
| 00:55.22 | Caz | his attention lol |
| 00:55.30 | pirate | I see how it is |
| 00:55.41 | Caz | we discovered the ins/outs of that UnitFilter function yesterday |
| 00:55.47 | Caz | he uses a diff unitfilter function |
| 00:55.53 | Caz | wanted to show him what im doing with this one |
| 00:56.19 | Caz | u can see the UnitFilter call here: http://pastebin.com/niVUnxUk |
| 01:00.25 | Caz | pirate - was fixing up some constants so its not full of bitshifty awkwardness |
| 01:00.37 | Caz | and labeling 1 or 2 depending on which param it goes in. |
| 01:00.41 | pirate | ah |
| 01:02.08 | Caz | pirate - did i talk to u about why the params were split into 2 requireds and 2 excludeds ? |
| 01:02.16 | pirate | not even a little |
| 01:02.46 | Caz | the constants they use for the flags |
| 01:02.50 | Caz | exceeded 32 |
| 01:02.58 | Caz | so one int wasnt enough lol |
| 01:03.03 | pirate | ahh |
| 01:03.24 | Caz | thus u get awkwardness like this in the second params ( 1 << (c_constant - 32) ) |
| 01:03.39 | Caz | turning something like "33" into a do-over "1" instead |
| 01:04.04 | Caz | their way of cycling it instead of making new variables |
| 01:04.31 | pirate | is their a functional reason why they don't use constants that exceed 32? |
| 01:04.41 | pirate | *there |
| 01:05.57 | Caz | an int = 4 bytes.... 1 bye = 8 bits...... int thus supports 32 bits : on/off flags |
| 01:05.59 | Caz | byte* |
| 01:06.30 | Caz | if u shift more than 32 bits.. u've moved farther than the int can hold |
| 01:07.20 | pirate | hurray learning |
| 01:12.19 | Caz | :] |
| 01:12.31 | Caz | on a side note |
| 01:12.38 | Caz | a boolean value is probably 4 bytes |
| 01:13.09 | Caz | so u can either use 4 bytes to store 1 true/false... or 32 true/false with bitshifting in the 4 byte space |
| 01:15.06 | Caz | one funny thing tho.. is all the const int's used to check the bits xD |
| 01:15.27 | pirate | you a comp sci major? |
| 01:15.35 | Caz | i think the main reason it's convenient .. is that u can pass 32 flags in a single variable to a function |
| 01:15.42 | Caz | pirate - i used to be. |
| 01:15.50 | Caz | dropped out as it wasnt leading me anywhere useful |
| 01:16.05 | Caz | settled for moving out of the parent's house and getting a nearby job |
| 01:16.44 | pirate | ah |
| 01:16.54 | pirate | on an unrelated note has anyone been playing Transistor? |
| 01:17.00 | Caz | nope |
| 01:18.43 | pirate | It's really fucking good |
| 01:18.53 | pirate | and has combat fairly similar to my game :D |
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| 01:20.28 | Caz | brb |
| 01:20.43 | Charysmatic | is there going to be another blizzard map night, or was the euro thing on the 23rd the last event? |
| 01:20.56 | pirate | seems pretty close to the deadline for another event |
| 01:21.25 | Ahli | I assume it was the last one |
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| 01:23.53 | Charysmatic | they said the last one was yet to be announced in the same post that announced the euro one. we'll see. |
| 01:24.24 | Ahli | oh ok |
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| 01:24.38 | Caz | You had 4 minutes to tak shit abuot me |
| 01:24.41 | Caz | but now im back |
| 01:25.12 | Caz | Raziel is afraid i saw what he said |
| 01:25.16 | Caz | clearly |
| 01:26.05 | Kanoobee | he said that you were a smelly seal fin and that you didnt even deserve the mercy of a shovel killing |
| 01:26.25 | Kanoobee | his words |
| 01:26.26 | Kanoobee | not mine |
| 01:26.30 | Caz | but without me |
| 01:26.34 | Caz | the seal would drown. |
| 01:26.39 | Caz | the life of the seal |
| 01:26.41 | Caz | gives mine meaning |
| 01:26.46 | Caz | together we are whole |
| 01:27.03 | Kanoobee | again, i dont bring reason to his words, I just report them as I may or may not have seen them |
| 01:27.19 | Caz | hehe |
| 01:27.31 | Kanoobee | :P |
| 01:27.43 | Caz | need to rescript this corpse spawning brb |
| 01:27.52 | Kanoobee | wait |
| 01:27.59 | Caz | ? |
| 01:28.02 | Kanoobee | take this, it's dangerous to go alone |
| 01:28.17 | Caz | what is it.. a hand grenade with the pin missing? :P |
| 01:28.18 | Kanoobee | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4DKCWdTyPk |
| 01:28.19 | Kanoobee | there |
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| 02:05.06 | Bounty | peowza |
| 02:10.02 | Caz | interesting |
| 02:10.30 | Caz | the files i got from JademusSreg containing functions and constants for script did not contain the unit attribute constants |
| 02:31.40 | pirate | this fight is gonna be sick |
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| 02:36.21 | pirate | when you set preferences to Break on Trigger Error-- is there a way to resume? |
| 02:44.49 | Ahli | f5 |
| 02:45.19 | pirate | ty |
| 02:45.40 | Ahli | jesus, copy pasting values out of a return action into a set variable action takes forever |
| 02:45.59 | pirate | automate :D |
| 02:47.29 | Ahli | it takes forever because the editor internally updates some bullsh*t when I'm copy pasting the first parameter value out of the tree in a return statement |
| 02:50.11 | Ahli | lession to learn: only use a variable in a return statement... else doing anything with its value takes forever |
| 03:03.48 | pirate | did they figure out a better way to do knockback effects in HotS that I can copy? |
| 03:05.28 | Ahli | I assume blizzard uses launch unit |
| 03:05.52 | pirate | to apply to the target? |
| 03:11.10 | pirate | the simplest knockback effect I can find is the 'Pounce' Set |
| 03:11.29 | pirate | better than WoL hybrid stuff |
| 03:11.37 | Ahli | I use triggers |
| 03:12.07 | pirate | I probably should considering otherwise it's going to mess with my pathing system |
| 03:12.22 | pirate | without more work than I want to put into it tonight |
| 03:14.31 | Caz | pirate - "break" statement wont kick out of an if/then right? |
| 03:14.39 | Caz | it breaks you out of the function or loop the if is in ? |
| 03:14.39 | pirate | nope |
| 03:14.41 | pirate | yes |
| 03:14.44 | Caz | kk |
| 03:14.48 | pirate | use 'while' |
| 03:15.42 | pirate | and 'continue' to skip remaining actions but not break the loop (don't forget to continue cycling integers before the continue if that's what you're doing) |
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| 03:31.26 | Caz | pirate - would u mind taking a look at a short trigger ? In case u have a better way than what i've come up with |
| 03:31.39 | pirate | show |
| 03:33.19 | Caz | sec |
| 03:34.42 | Caz | pirate - http://pastebin.com/5bpbcVqc |
| 03:36.46 | pirate | looks like exactly what I would do |
| 03:37.04 | Caz | kwl beans |
| 03:37.34 | Caz | first time using arrays |
| 03:37.36 | Caz | or structs |
| 03:37.39 | Caz | in script |
| 03:39.16 | pirate | extremely useful |
| 03:39.33 | pirate | particularly for player data |
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| 04:02.18 | pirate | it's so satisfying to watch people play your game though observer mode |
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| 04:13.33 | Repo | New map: coop masters challenge - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/coop-masters-challenge/ |
| 04:19.13 | ArcanePariah | Good evening everyone |
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| 04:20.23 | ArcanePariah | pirate, for knockback, you need to lift the unit before doing the apply force effects. Otherwise the game takes into account the friction of the unit as a function of gravity. |
| 04:20.36 | ArcanePariah | See the Kraith charge ability for reference |
| 04:21.01 | ArcanePariah | Does anyone here have any experience with the Weapon Crit actor message? |
| 04:21.35 | JademusSreg | Zoop. Nope. |
| 04:21.38 | pirate | --I just copied the Pounce knockback (I think it's similar to kraiths) |
| 04:21.54 | ArcanePariah | Hello JademusSreg |
| 04:22.37 | pirate | ahoys all around |
| 04:22.48 | ArcanePariah | Yes, I think Pounce is similar, it should be applying a behavior to lift the unit followed by a persistent doing peridoic apply force effects, followed by the removal of the lift. |
| 04:22.54 | pirate | yup |
| 04:23.39 | ArcanePariah | Just a matter of varing the number and frequency of the apply force effect for larger knockback I would assume. |
| 04:24.34 | JademusSreg | Shame no games capture the technical detail and creativity of actual crafting, tools, weapons or otherwise. |
| 04:26.27 | pirate | minecraft and structures, no? |
| 04:26.32 | pirate | also- Transistor! |
| 04:26.36 | pirate | (unrelated) |
| 04:27.24 | JademusSreg | More like the entire process. |
| 04:30.47 | Caz | JademusSreg - u finally showed up :P |
| 04:31.03 | JademusSreg | I'm sanding the shaft of a multiple-grip spear+kudgel reduced from a charred and dried tree branch, noting how forces would interact with the material, its mechanical strengths and weaknesses, how to strike, where it would break; shame games lack such mechanical detail in the process and products of crafting. |
| 04:31.21 | pirate | its not possible to dynamically suppress specific types of collision for a unit, is it? |
| 04:31.54 | pirate | Are you secretly Ron Swanson? |
| 04:32.20 | Caz | JademusSreg - started some tedious constant making so i can enjoy using UnitFilter still lol |
| 04:32.31 | Caz | in a cleaner way |
| 04:32.48 | JademusSreg | (Found this, is not person: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Swanson ) |
| 04:32.54 | Caz | -> http://pastebin.com/niVUnxUk |
| 04:33.03 | Caz | UnitFilter in action ! |
| 04:33.36 | JademusSreg | Why not use UnitFilterStr and give it a const string? |
| 04:33.54 | Caz | idk, i got started on that function... i felt the urge to use it lol |
| 04:34.30 | EntityEnigma | caz can you tell me what you think of the marauder textures in this image http://i.imgur.com/mXH9UNi.jpg |
| 04:34.34 | EntityEnigma | or anyone |
| 04:35.09 | Caz | the green one looks like something nasty is affecting him lol |
| 04:35.15 | JademusSreg | const string someShitFilterString = "Self;Missile"; unitfilter someShitFilter = UnitFilterStr(someShitFilterString); |
| 04:35.39 | JademusSreg | Neato, Ent. |
| 04:35.57 | EntityEnigma | thx |
| 04:36.02 | Caz | -agree |
| 04:36.44 | Caz | JademusSreg - Aye, i don't see a reason not to use that one. I just wanted to fiddle a bit with the bitfshifty one. For yours its required;excluded right ? |
| 04:36.47 | Caz | as long as u know the text names ? |
| 04:36.55 | JademusSreg | However, needs a bit moar color complementarity. For a two-tone, you'd use opposing or 2/3 complementary colors. |
| 04:37.17 | JademusSreg | Yeah, though it's not "mine" per se, haha. |
| 04:37.56 | Caz | Lol i know, but considering some have said they've never used unitfilter i figured i could use yours/mine respectively without confusion |
| 04:40.06 | JademusSreg | If the galaxy API were mine to design, I'd at least have implemented polymorphism. |
| 04:40.12 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 04:44.20 | Caz | JademusSreg we may have touched on this before, but does the compiler let you use typecasting of any sort? Such as passing a byte to a function that takes an int .. or an int where it would want a byte ? |
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| 04:46.15 | JademusSreg | Tragically limited, though iirc, binary ops with mixed type can yield some limited typecasting, in a sense. |
| 04:55.18 | Caz | Prolly wont have it set up tonight.. im kinda tired |
| 04:55.29 | Caz | but i'm trying my hand at respawning heroes with timers |
| 04:55.40 | Caz | and getting myself introduced to structs/arrays in script |
| 05:00.06 | Caz | http://pastebin.com/t4XqCVE0 -- i still need to check how to do look into how the timers actually function but i dont imagine that's too hard. |
| 05:00.11 | pirate | the script is strong in this one |
| 05:00.19 | Caz | still need to look inti ** |
| 05:00.22 | Caz | into ** lol |
| 05:01.00 | Caz | pirate -- i went ocd and moderately changed the bottom of the function from an if(goods tuff happens){doo thing} else {FUCK quit} |
| 05:01.09 | Caz | to if(bad stuff) FUCK QUIT .... do good stuff |
| 05:01.19 | JademusSreg | http://deaod.de/GalaxyOperators.txt |
| 05:01.37 | JademusSreg | No reason to x=x+1 when you can use x+=1 |
| 05:01.53 | sonicnite | wheres AlphA_VsT? |
| 05:02.06 | Caz | i wasnt sure how many operators they brought over from C so i just went with the route that works in all langauges Lol |
| 05:02.19 | Caz | i know i cant use my favored Var++ |
| 05:02.20 | Caz | >:( |
| 05:02.26 | pirate | I only caught onto this fact halfway through rogue star development |
| 05:02.44 | Caz | i'll switch over to += right away ;] |
| 05:03.29 | pirate | inconsistency- inconshttp://i.imgur.com/IzibTTc.jpg |
| 05:03.37 | pirate | man I fucked that up |
| 05:03.37 | pirate | http://i.imgur.com/IzibTTc.jpg |
| 05:03.41 | pirate | too much night coffee for pirate |
| 05:03.51 | JademusSreg | To understand galaxy script, imagine C minus everything that makes C useful, specifically it's all statically allocated memory. |
| 05:06.12 | Caz | why did the discontinue work with pointers? |
| 05:06.26 | Caz | i've seen references to pointers passed to functions |
| 05:06.33 | Caz | forum references* |
| 05:06.41 | EntityEnigma | peace all |
| 05:06.45 | Caz | bye ent |
| 05:06.55 | JademusSreg | Pointers were a feature, removed during WoL beta patch 9. |
| 05:07.14 | Caz | sad |
| 05:07.23 | JademusSreg | Now only specific reference types are valid. |
| 05:11.06 | JademusSreg | Lot of shit makes sense when one apprehends that security is high priority in galaxy. One expects Blizz would very much like to prevent arbitrary code execution in SC2, avoid repeating the WC3 mini-fiasco. |
| 05:14.59 | Caz | i guess if i'm using structs with no member functions and no real pointers i'm going to end up with something like this..... |
| 05:15.02 | Caz | http://pastebin.com/fr0spvcR |
| 05:15.50 | JademusSreg | Try funcref? |
| 05:16.28 | Caz | i have not |
| 05:16.38 | pirate | why does my unit walk straight back to where he was standing after being knocked back |
| 05:16.43 | pirate | how do I tell him to stop this |
| 05:17.05 | pirate | I even tried adding a "Issue Order Hold Position" on knockback behavior expiry |
| 05:17.07 | pirate | no dice |
| 05:17.36 | JademusSreg | Haha. Wat are you doing to achieve said knockback? |
| 05:17.57 | pirate | literally copy pasted the Pounce effect tree (similar to Kraith's charging crash) |
| 05:18.30 | pirate | persistent > apply stun / height behavior > apply forces > remove behavior |
| 05:18.38 | Caz | JademusSreg so i can have member funcRef that points to the MemFunc and is accessable thourhg StructName.funcRef ? |
| 05:18.55 | JademusSreg | Yaaaaah. |
| 05:18.58 | pirate | (except my remove behavior wasn't working since the knockback was part of an AOE so I just gave the behavior a short duration) |
| 05:19.11 | JademusSreg | pir, apply forces sucks. Do not want. |
| 05:19.17 | pirate | well, no |
| 05:19.34 | pirate | but move instant/blend times are ugly in this application |
| 05:19.51 | JademusSreg | LaunchMissile, enough spoken. =D |
| 05:19.55 | pirate | ah |
| 05:19.56 | pirate | hm |
| 05:19.57 | pirate | yes |
| 05:20.01 | pirate | fuck |
| 05:25.10 | pirate | http://i.imgur.com/hCyy4s6.gif |
| 05:25.19 | pirate | knockbacks are fun! |
| 05:25.36 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 05:26.04 | JademusSreg | Good thing I was here to point out the obvious solution to a problem. |
| 05:26.13 | pirate | I would be so lost without you |
| 05:26.20 | pirate | I don't do so well in the heat and toronto is melting |
| 05:27.12 | JademusSreg | Haha, gross. |
| 05:27.44 | pirate | there have been some immense set backs in these finals days of the contest |
| 05:29.01 | JademusSreg | Wind flowing through black-asphalt city heat carries the whimsical stench of baked garbage. |
| 05:29.48 | DeadZergling | well while you are feeling insightful/helpful JademusSreg , mind if I ask you a question as well? |
| 05:29.54 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 05:30.24 | pirate | oops, set the missile to launch the caster instead of the target |
| 05:30.38 | pirate | DZ the trick is to woo the whimsical burrito with humor |
| 05:31.00 | DeadZergling | well, I have a unit I want to go flying backwards when it gets hit, in the opposite direction of where it was hit |
| 05:31.15 | DeadZergling | it isn't a knockback ability really, i just want this particular unit to get pushed around a lot |
| 05:31.31 | pirate | same principal, no? |
| 05:31.56 | Caz | JademusSreg - potential issue here with the member func ref. |
| 05:32.19 | Caz | the structure needs to know the name of the functions for funcRef<memberFuncName> |
| 05:32.32 | Caz | but the member functions need to know the structure name |
| 05:32.41 | Caz | MemFunc(structRef) |
| 05:32.58 | JademusSreg | I'd use a persistent to set up the impact point, then another persistent to get the angle from the impact to impacted unit point, launch missile the impacted unit at an angle offset relative to the impact point. |
| 05:33.33 | DeadZergling | I'm a little concerned about the missile deciding to launch the unit over walls it isn't supposed to be in |
| 05:33.48 | JademusSreg | There are flags and shit to handle that. |
| 05:34.23 | JademusSreg | See the numerous HotS leaps/jumps for reference. |
| 05:35.08 | DeadZergling | < has still been too cheap for hots |
| 05:35.11 | Caz | I don't see how they could reference eachother when one has to be defined before the other. |
| 05:35.59 | JademusSreg | Ya know how Location fields have a pulldown list of effects in addition to Source,Caster,Target et cetera? |
| 05:36.20 | JademusSreg | Those effects can query effects within the effect tree. |
| 05:36.41 | JademusSreg | That's what it's for, tada. =D |
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| 05:38.17 | Caz | JademusSreg - did ya catch that issue with references ? |
| 05:39.53 | JademusSreg | Example: https://pastee.org/83dpa |
| 05:40.19 | JademusSreg | Starting with void Update_FuncInterface (); |
| 05:41.19 | JademusSreg | It's a function prototype without a defined function body. The function prototype is then given as the argument to the funcref<> in the typedef. |
| 05:45.37 | Caz | i thought we couldnt use prototypes mh... brb |
| 05:49.32 | Caz | what you did there is pretty interesting |
| 05:53.07 | pirate | can anyone think of a better title than 'Zergslayer Ornstein' ? |
| 05:53.21 | pirate | Droneslayer sounds more like the original but is far less intimidating |
| 05:55.15 | Caz | pirate - what was the original? |
| 05:55.47 | pirate | http://darksouls.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Slayer_Ornstein |
| 05:56.55 | Caz | JademusSreg - does the funcref have to point to a function that matches the return type and parameter count / types ? |
| 05:57.52 | Caz | pirate - u could make it rated PG |
| 05:57.55 | Caz | Critter Crush :3 |
| 05:57.56 | Caz | lolz |
| 05:58.15 | JademusSreg | Hiveslayer, or even Daggonslayer. |
| 05:58.36 | pirate | wasnt that the name of a SC1 cerebrate? |
| 05:58.39 | JademusSreg | Caz, yes, function signature must match. |
| 05:58.42 | JademusSreg | pir, yes. |
| 05:58.58 | Caz | pir, Swarmslayer |
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| 05:59.58 | Caz | do you want to mimic the original name closely ? |
| 06:00.11 | pirate | ooohh, that's really good actually, since side universe lorewise the guy in my game could have plausible killed daggoth |
| 06:00.40 | pirate | as close as possible- his partner went from Executioner Smough to Executor Smough and it was too perfect |
| 06:01.23 | Caz | JademusSreg the syntax for function references in c++ was rather rediculous lol |
| 06:01.37 | Caz | so i guess a function porotoype aint so bad |
| 06:01.45 | Caz | prototype* |
| 06:05.16 | Caz | good old |
| 06:06.14 | Caz | void (*GiveMeInts)(int,int,int) |
| 06:06.52 | Caz | GiveMeInts(val1, val2, val3); |
| 06:07.18 | Caz | well.. after u assign it to something. |
| 06:21.03 | Caz | pir / jade -- this is what i've got so far (copy pasting) |
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| 06:23.06 | Caz | http://pastebin.com/jsGFaVR7 |
| 06:24.32 | Caz | Though that still leaves you stuck having to assign the init function before u can use it. |
| 06:25.08 | Caz | I'll need a function that sets all the member functions up for you |
| 06:25.09 | JademusSreg | Hint: the whole point of using typedef on the funcref is to reduce the length of the identifier to something less unwieldy. |
| 06:26.12 | Caz | jade - i just want to define the variable and not forget what protoype setup was used for it. |
| 06:26.35 | pirate | grrrr, now my knockback behavior isn't supressing turning despite checked flags and looks silly |
| 06:27.06 | JademusSreg | Haha. Another hint: always opt for explicit, semantically meaningful identifiers. =D |
| 06:27.34 | JademusSreg | pir, see the Viper's yoink ability. |
| 06:27.53 | Caz | its a rough draft at something ive never seen before, at the moment clarity was feeling better =P |
| 06:28.35 | pirate | NO DON'T GET KNOCKED UP CLIFFS |
| 06:28.36 | JademusSreg | Aaand etching and sanding done for the night, may etch+sand and stain tomorrow. Later. |
| 06:28.51 | Caz | this would mean though that there would have to be a standard for using these structures |
| 06:29.30 | Caz | thx for help jade |
| 06:29.31 | Caz | cyaz |
| 06:29.36 | Caz | i'll toy with this tonight and tomorrow |
| 06:30.20 | Caz | i think i still have the same problem tho |
| 06:31.22 | DeadZergling | and begone once again evil circular dependencies |
| 06:31.29 | Caz | lol DZ |
| 06:31.43 | Caz | pirate - you have much experience with function references ? |
| 06:31.46 | DeadZergling | saving as folders and manually editing compels you |
| 06:31.52 | pirate | zero, sadly |
| 06:31.57 | pirate | it was something I meant to get into |
| 06:32.01 | Caz | T__T |
| 06:32.08 | Caz | i dont think its gonna let me do what i need to do |
| 06:32.53 | DeadZergling | at least it was fairly painless this time |
| 06:33.04 | DeadZergling | every so often I just want to borrow from my RPG mod |
| 06:33.50 | pirate | one mod to rule them all |
| 06:34.17 | DeadZergling | yes, apparently that is the way the mod feels about it |
| 06:34.24 | DeadZergling | it doesn't like being separated from a host |
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| 06:35.58 | DeadZergling | uhoh, that guy again, afk before he thinks of something new for me to do |
| 06:37.22 | Caz | DZ copying my afk tag ! |
| 06:37.41 | Caz | pirate - have u used OOP style code before? |
| 06:38.00 | pirate | I don't know what that means |
| 06:38.05 | pirate | I have 0 programming background |
| 06:38.07 | Caz | Object Oriented Programming |
| 06:38.09 | Caz | ah, k |
| 06:38.14 | pirate | galaxy is all I got |
| 06:38.22 | pirate | (and basic webdev) |
| 06:38.46 | Caz | I'm trying to half ass something done in C / C++ ... and editor is making me quarter ass it to the point that it might be too ugly to be helpful lol |
| 06:39.57 | pirate | oh, my turning problem was caused by the mover |
| 06:39.59 | pirate | that's silly |
| 06:40.03 | Caz | lol |
| 06:40.09 | Caz | i havent touched movers yet |
| 06:40.40 | pirate | like many things in the editor, they are both silly and incredibly useful |
| 06:41.26 | Caz | Basically pirate , the idea is that i would take a structure like "PlayerData plyrData" and do something like |
| 06:41.46 | Caz | plyrData.Init(plyrData); // initialize own variables. |
| 06:41.55 | DeadZergling_afk | something done in c / c++ |
| 06:42.00 | DeadZergling_afk | turn back |
| 06:42.14 | DeadZergling_afk | allow yourself to be stupider for the sake of the galaxy editor |
| 06:42.19 | Caz | Lol |
| 06:42.20 | duckies|afk | >.> |
| 06:42.43 | Caz | DeadZergling you don't like me trying to force my OOPenis onto galaxy editr ? |
| 06:42.52 | pirate | heheh |
| 06:43.08 | Caz | There is one major hangup i'm seeing. |
| 06:43.27 | Caz | if Init is a member function for PlayerData |
| 06:43.28 | DeadZergling_afk | seems unclesatan got back to me |
| 06:43.42 | Caz | but PlayerData is also a parameter in Init |
| 06:43.47 | Caz | there's no way to define one without the other |
| 06:44.04 | Caz | whichever u define first is missing the definition of the other to work |
| 06:45.05 | Caz | If this ends up being the case i can see only one annoying solution |
| 06:45.09 | DeadZergling_afk | I added you to that conversation, duckies|afk |
| 06:45.58 | Caz | every struct will have to be inside another struct that holds the member variables |
| 06:46.02 | Caz | member functions ** |
| 06:46.15 | Caz | Then you'd end up with like |
| 06:46.35 | Caz | _PlayerData plyrData; |
| 06:46.43 | Caz | plyrData.data.Name |
| 06:47.11 | Caz | which isnt overly terrible i suppose |
| 06:47.17 | Caz | but it adds another level and more typing |
| 06:47.19 | Caz | so it annoys me |
| 06:47.43 | DeadZergling_afk | seems it has fewer attachment points than the original, lol |
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| 07:02.38 | pirate | Unable to launch game |
| 07:02.40 | pirate | wat |
| 07:08.30 | Caz | DeadZergling - have u used funcref ? |
| 07:13.03 | DeadZergling_afk | in galaxy, no way |
| 07:13.11 | Caz | Lol |
| 07:13.14 | DeadZergling_afk | I'm happy I can do var += 1 |
| 07:13.26 | Caz | if this comes out amusingly i'll have to show you my OOPenis |
| 07:13.52 | DeadZergling_afk | no promises I won't hate it |
| 07:13.56 | DeadZergling_afk | innoruuk and all |
| 07:13.56 | Caz | that's fine |
| 07:13.59 | Caz | hehe |
| 07:14.17 | Caz | innoruk even wanted his own children to suffer |
| 07:15.51 | DeadZergling_afk | yes, all were tortured in some way, but it was treachery in many cases |
| 07:16.00 | DeadZergling_afk | IE, DZ, go make starcraft 2 mods |
| 07:16.03 | DeadZergling_afk | it will be fun |
| 07:16.51 | DeadZergling_afk | anyways, sometimes, you are working on something, and it is almost perfect, but not quite right |
| 07:16.52 | DeadZergling_afk | other time |
| 07:16.59 | DeadZergling_afk | look who fucked the pooch! |
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| 07:40.29 | Caz | Ok DeadZergling ima type you up a tiny sample |
| 07:42.59 | DeadZergling_afk | Here, I'll save ya the effort, (____) (_____) |________P |
| 07:46.29 | Caz | http://pastebin.com/vApW8Qm2 |
| 07:46.35 | Caz | check it out |
| 07:47.29 | Caz | Not a large example |
| 07:47.40 | Caz | but its pretty close to C OOPage |
| 07:47.43 | DeadZergling_afk | sorry, but what is the purpose of this again? |
| 07:47.53 | Caz | to give structs member functions |
| 07:48.01 | Caz | so they can intialize themselves and work on their own variables |
| 07:48.25 | Caz | u pass a struct to a function |
| 07:48.30 | Caz | and that struct already knows how to work on its own shit |
| 07:49.26 | Caz | functions that are directly tied to the instance of the struct |
| 07:49.43 | Caz | that one line was wrong tho |
| 07:49.53 | DeadZergling_afk | so in other words, you want classes |
| 07:50.08 | Caz | yes :3 |
| 07:50.15 | Caz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:50.31 | Caz | or |
| 07:50.38 | Caz | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:51.09 | Caz | it's done, i have it already. |
| 07:51.13 | Caz | just curious what u think |
| 07:51.33 | Caz | the only drawback in galaxy |
| 07:51.42 | Caz | is the additional struct layer "Wrapper" |
| 07:51.55 | Caz | that the struct u want to tie the member functions to resides in |
| 07:52.14 | Caz | the wrapper holds the stuct ur working with, and the member functions. -- its the link betweent he 2 |
| 07:54.05 | Caz | I'm going to reduce the "data" in the wrappers to just "d" so its faster for me to type |
| 07:54.23 | Caz | maybe |
| 07:58.02 | DeadZergling_afk | could be useful, but I'm fearful that tricking galaxy to be less dumbed down might take more time then just getting it to do what you want through its limitations |
| 07:58.32 | Caz | If its as simple as what i've already done im down with it. But it make some things alot uglier |
| 07:59.18 | Caz | sec need to find something out |
| 08:03.14 | Caz | DeadZergling - ya .. you will get stuck with x2 struct levels as normal OOP langs |
| 08:03.29 | Caz | if for example you had PlayerDataWrapper .. and it had some wrapper for ally info |
| 08:03.36 | Caz | to get at the ally it would look like |
| 08:03.57 | Caz | player.data.allyInfo.data.name |
| 08:04.01 | Caz | to get the name of the ally |
| 08:04.09 | Caz | instead of like.. player.allyInfo.name |
| 08:04.14 | Caz | in normal C/C++ |
| 08:04.26 | Caz | 5 levels instead of 3 |
| 08:08.04 | DeadZergling_afk | good except I think you mean, +2 struct levels |
| 08:08.14 | Caz | ya |
| 08:10.00 | Caz | Thought u were gonna hate it =P |
| 08:10.23 | DeadZergling_afk | who says I don't |
| 08:10.27 | Caz | Lol |
| 08:10.29 | DeadZergling_afk | is more work so you can do more work |
| 08:12.37 | Caz | galaxy alternative would just be like |
| 08:12.55 | Caz | global functions to operate on the structs |
| 08:13.06 | Caz | PlayerData_Init(player); |
| 08:13.44 | Caz | which in the grand scheme of things isnt bad either. |
| 08:15.21 | Kanoobee | anyone know if an movement order from a trigger resets a unit's movement speed to it's parent's default? |
| 08:15.38 | Caz | i wouldnt think so |
| 08:16.05 | DeadZergling_afk | all right, someone is gonna die if this damned apply force doesn't start cooperating soon |
| 08:16.20 | Kanoobee | im hoping not, but that is how it is acting. When the orders are issued by me through right clicking, the increased MS works |
| 08:16.29 | Kanoobee | but when the order comes from a trigger |
| 08:16.39 | Kanoobee | it does so with the defualt ms of the parent unit |
| 08:17.08 | Kanoobee | ima go play with it more |
| 08:19.46 | Kanoobee | nvm i figured it out |
| 08:20.30 | Kanoobee | the point the trigger was telling it to go was set as a point that was in the direction the unit was facing offset by too short a distance to get up to speed |
| 08:20.32 | Kanoobee | so |
| 08:20.34 | Kanoobee | ...derp |
| 08:42.26 | DeadZergling_afk | well, that will just have to do as far as alien squids go |
| 08:42.32 | DeadZergling_afk | have other shit to do, lol |
| 08:46.46 | Merc | hey DeadZergling_afk, did you get the raven :p |
| 08:47.01 | DeadZergling_afk | still a work in progress Merc |
| 08:47.16 | Merc | what's missing? |
| 08:47.27 | DeadZergling | oh, a model with the correct attachment points, a skin for that model |
| 08:47.30 | DeadZergling | basically everything |
| 08:47.43 | Merc | so you didnt get it from duckies I take it |
| 08:48.03 | DeadZergling | haven't heard much from him today |
| 08:48.07 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhlfpgdege8xb5c/wow_raven.zip |
| 08:48.13 | DeadZergling | he knows this isn't a super priority for me |
| 08:48.39 | DeadZergling | let me try importing that |
| 08:48.41 | Merc | it's got a weapon attachment on the beak |
| 08:48.57 | Merc | but the animations might not be good enough |
| 08:49.04 | DeadZergling | what placement is needed for the textures? |
| 08:49.13 | Merc | assets/textures |
| 08:49.14 | Merc | standard |
| 08:50.08 | DeadZergling | i'll check it out shortly |
| 08:50.13 | DeadZergling | finally got my alien squids working right |
| 08:50.28 | Merc | it looked like this initially: http://i.imgur.com/5ZPxXGR.png |
| 08:50.36 | Merc | but that was a bit too parrot-y |
| 08:51.06 | DeadZergling | as long as the look is there |
| 08:51.14 | DeadZergling | the texture can always be redone |
| 08:51.41 | DeadZergling | especially nice for these, i don't even have to texturebyid shit |
| 08:51.41 | Merc | changed it to have an overall slight hue tint instead |
| 08:51.48 | DeadZergling | i can just replace the whole damn thing, lol |
| 08:52.04 | Merc | well, the animations arent all there |
| 08:52.13 | Merc | only stand, death, attack |
| 08:52.20 | Merc | and those might not be what you want either |
| 08:52.24 | Merc | stand = flapping wings |
| 08:52.29 | Merc | death = fall on ground |
| 08:52.34 | Merc | attack = some sort of swoop |
| 08:52.47 | DeadZergling | attack may be better not to use |
| 08:53.06 | Merc | yeah dont think that would look good |
| 08:53.22 | Merc | there were some floating animations and stuff though, could throw that in |
| 08:53.23 | DeadZergling | however, this might be feasible |
| 08:53.25 | Merc | or gliding |
| 08:53.42 | DeadZergling | could slap a gun attachment in his little claws |
| 08:54.01 | DeadZergling | stand and death are both pretty good |
| 08:54.48 | DeadZergling | hurray, the weapon point is on the beak |
| 08:55.13 | DeadZergling | to be honest, the shooting probably won't look that good on this, but it isn't really the point, lol |
| 08:55.20 | DeadZergling | by the way, would you happen to have access to a snake model? |
| 08:55.32 | Merc | probably |
| 08:55.56 | Merc | fairly certain there are several snake models in wow |
| 08:55.58 | DeadZergling | It would be very helpful to me to have that, just need a good walk/attack/death, that's it |
| 08:56.25 | Merc | I can probably fix that |
| 08:56.25 | DeadZergling | this crow is pretty darn good too |
| 08:56.44 | DeadZergling | i'm not sure when I'll have time to put this in, but I definitely will |
| 08:56.49 | Merc | just let me get back from work ;) |
| 08:57.10 | DeadZergling | thanks for the crow :) |
| 08:57.20 | DeadZergling | may use it in my RPG as well |
| 08:58.13 | DeadZergling | just for giggles |
| 08:58.21 | DeadZergling | gonna see what happens when I swap model to the crow |
| 09:01.44 | DeadZergling | an appropriate command for it, goduckies |
| 09:04.34 | DeadZergling | Merc, you still there? |
| 09:05.08 | DeadZergling | are you able to edit these at all, or can you just export stuff outta wow? |
| 09:06.53 | DeadZergling | anyways, im gonna try some trigger hax to make this crow work |
| 09:09.12 | DeadZergling | if this does what I think it will |
| 09:09.17 | DeadZergling | duckies is gonna be very happy |
| 09:13.30 | DeadZergling | sob, access denied |
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| 09:26.04 | DeadZergling | damn is this a silly thing to be doing, but nearly have a playable crow, lol |
| 09:36.13 | Merc | I can edit them, sure |
| 09:36.50 | Merc | once they're out of wow, all you get is a model, texture and animations |
| 09:37.04 | Merc | have to add attachment points and vol targets etc yourself |
| 09:37.08 | DeadZergling | i may have made a playable crow now |
| 09:37.17 | Merc | make speculars and normals etc |
| 09:39.35 | Merc | and team colors ofc |
| 09:40.59 | DeadZergling | well, i don't think recoloring a crow |
| 09:41.01 | DeadZergling | would be right |
| 09:41.12 | DeadZergling | this looks rather hilarious, gonna make a video for duckies |
| 09:46.48 | Bounty | somehow I am now ahead of schedule DeadZergling |
| 09:46.49 | Bounty | lol |
| 09:47.00 | Bounty | only have 2 modes to make to meet my goal |
| 09:47.03 | DeadZergling | not having a job helps |
| 09:47.12 | Bounty | I have a job? |
| 09:47.34 | Bounty | dumbass, I am still working for NCU |
| 09:51.03 | DeadZergling | thought you held off on this until your contract expired and that is why you were running so late |
| 09:52.10 | Bounty | I wish |
| 09:52.33 | Bounty | I've been doing both and that is why I did not start till the beginning of the month because I just said fuck it |
| 10:16.27 | Merc | DeadZergling: http://www.wowhead.com/npcs=1?filter=fa=35 |
| 10:16.38 | Merc | critters in wow with the "serpent" tag |
| 10:16.48 | Merc | they all have screenshots |
| 10:16.50 | Merc | pick your favorite |
| 10:19.20 | DeadZergling | seems recoloring is popular |
| 10:21.06 | DeadZergling | seems I have crashed shockwave |
| 10:21.52 | DeadZergling | so seems to be 2 models used for all of those, so the question is, pick my favorite coloring scheme, lol |
| 10:23.11 | Merc | yeah that cobra model seems popular in general |
| 10:23.16 | DeadZergling | I like http://www.wowhead.com/npc=26322 and http://www.wowhead.com/npc=40657 the best |
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| 10:23.43 | DeadZergling | one realistic snake, and one demonic one :) |
| 10:24.14 | Merc | there was a "wind serpent" class as well it seems |
| 10:24.26 | Merc | if you wanted more freaky ones |
| 10:25.02 | DeadZergling | wowhead huh, ill have to look later at work |
| 10:25.03 | Merc | basically snakes with wings it seems |
| 10:25.51 | Merc | can even view in 3d, heh |
| 10:26.00 | Merc | cant export to m3 though, slackers |
| 10:27.26 | Merc | could have a bunch of SPIDERS and SCORPIONS come in waves |
| 10:30.06 | DeadZergling | aye, gonna replace snakes with those as it stands now |
| 10:50.42 | DeadZergling | all right, well not killing myself over small stuff tonight |
| 10:50.51 | DeadZergling | need to keep alert all nights this week |
| 10:50.59 | DeadZergling | so I can make more progress |
| 10:51.04 | DeadZergling | laters all |
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| 16:13.31 | Dustin|Work | Hola |
| 16:16.20 | Dustin|Work | What is everyone up too |
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| 16:26.45 | A1win | trying to get my map tested again ;p |
| 16:32.01 | EntityEnigma | retexturing |
| 16:32.10 | EntityEnigma | its suprizingly addictive |
| 16:32.29 | EntityEnigma | saddly one of the more rewarding things ive done in m life |
| 16:32.49 | Dustin|Work | A1win: I ran int osome bugs the other day on your map |
| 16:32.58 | A1win | yeah? |
| 16:33.11 | Dustin|Work | We were doing a 1v1 and the 2nd player was listed twice on the scoreboard |
| 16:33.18 | A1win | yeah, that's fixed |
| 16:33.51 | Dustin|Work | Also Homing missles blew up on myself if I was traveling forward as the homing missle's starting speed and acceleration was less that of my ship |
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| 16:34.45 | Dustin|Work | Pirate, played the story mode of your map, fucking sick so far |
| 16:34.53 | pirate | :D |
| 16:35.05 | Dustin|Work | Want to play it MP :D |
| 16:35.19 | pirate | uploaded a new version yesterday afternoon- is that the version you played? |
| 16:35.35 | pirate | multiplayer is a few months away... |
| 16:35.38 | Dustin|Work | Nope, I played friday, it ended after the first fight |
| 16:36.06 | pirate | did it end or did you just not find the bridge :P |
| 16:36.23 | Dustin|Work | After the battle, there was no Continue button |
| 16:36.43 | Dustin|Work | I applied skills and looted my shit, but wasnt able to get off the end battle screne |
| 16:36.59 | pirate | you have to click the inventory button on the bottom right >.< |
| 16:37.14 | pirate | the current version has the first 9 fights |
| 16:37.16 | Dustin|Work | I thought I had tried clicking everything I could |
| 16:37.23 | Dustin|Work | I probablt just missed it then |
| 16:37.29 | pirate | it mightve bugged out |
| 16:37.41 | Dustin|Work | Ill try it again tonight |
| 16:37.47 | pirate | (the version on friday had many issues) |
| 16:38.13 | Dustin|Work | Im loving the style you have set for story mode |
| 16:38.23 | Dustin|Work | Very polished |
| 16:38.27 | pirate | :D |
| 16:38.43 | pirate | now that all the systems are in place I can make story mode content pretty quickly |
| 16:39.11 | pirate | but after the contest I'm gonna shift gears, add more classes, and start on multiplayer |
| 16:39.17 | Dustin|Work | That's awesomeee |
| 16:40.28 | pirate | if you're lucky I'll have the first boss up for tonight |
| 16:40.36 | pirate | well, if I'M lucky |
| 16:41.13 | Dustin|Work | Hehe what's the first boss gonna be? |
| 16:41.24 | pirate | have you played dark souls? |
| 16:41.33 | Dustin|Work | Negative |
| 16:42.19 | pirate | then it's just a pair of unique looking protoss dudes with cool melee / position based abilities |
| 16:42.38 | Dustin|Work | Nice |
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| 16:43.53 | pirate | abilities are done, ironing out their AI now, and there's some cutscenes during their fight which is new and needs validation |
| 16:45.24 | Dustin|Work | What all classes do you have planned? Also are you planning on doing Coop MP or just pvp fights? |
| 16:45.31 | pirate | both! |
| 16:45.36 | Dustin|Work | heck ya! |
| 16:46.09 | pirate | hopefully I'll have some followers for the project by then and they can vote to prioritize |
| 16:46.54 | pirate | initially just a magister (mage) and vanguard (warrior) to complete the rpg trifecta |
| 16:48.43 | pirate | got ideas for three more original classes, but they're not quite as fleshed out and I could lose interest by then |
| 17:00.08 | A1win | can anyone join us for a game? we're 5 in a party |
| 17:00.12 | A1win | going to record video for trailer |
| 17:00.18 | A1win | nvm |
| 17:24.12 | A1win | fixed one crash and now I have another ;( |
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| 17:45.12 | dustin | So I've been thinking of making a SC2 map that's likethe new Evolve game coming out |
| 17:46.17 | dustin | 1 person starts as a small zergy creature and 4 others are tracking the monster, each hunter has a specific class to help, and the monster has to evade the hunters hile feeding on ai Creatures to upgrade and eventually kill the hunters before they kill him. |
| 17:49.47 | A1win | anyone up for testing? |
| 17:50.56 | Dustin| | I wish A1win :( |
| 17:51.38 | A1win | mmh homing missile might blow up if it starts to accelerate backwards when you launch it |
| 17:51.44 | A1win | maybe I should increase launch speed a bit |
| 17:52.01 | Dustin| | Yeah, that happened to me like everytime |
| 17:52.17 | A1win | weird, never seen that happen before :P |
| 17:52.20 | Dustin| | Increase launch speed or disable collision with self for a short duration |
| 17:52.24 | A1win | or did you shoot with some weapon when you launched it? |
| 17:52.31 | Dustin| | Both |
| 17:52.37 | A1win | yeah, you just probably shot it |
| 17:52.38 | A1win | :P |
| 17:52.42 | A1win | need to figure out how to prevent that |
| 17:52.45 | Dustin| | I would launc it forward and it would hit me and itd die if I shot it |
| 17:52.59 | Dustin| | I tested and even not shooting it would blow up on me |
| 17:53.04 | A1win | O.o |
| 17:53.21 | A1win | mmh maybe it was some other version |
| 17:53.26 | A1win | were there other playersin the game? |
| 17:53.28 | Dustin| | Only if I luanched it twoard my current vector though |
| 17:53.33 | Dustin| | Ya 1 other but he wasnt waround |
| 17:54.01 | A1win | it should add your ship's forward velocity to projectiles so dunno why that'd happen |
| 17:54.10 | A1win | maybe it decelrates too much or something |
| 17:54.24 | A1win | I'll try it myself I suppose |
| 17:54.59 | Dustin| | Yeah it was weird, but happened a lot |
| 17:55.50 | A1win | or you were just launching it to opposite direction of your enemy so it accelerated backwards |
| 17:56.06 | A1win | hmm still not happening to me |
| 17:56.15 | A1win | maybe it was a bugged version then |
| 17:57.18 | Dustin| | Maybe, this was like friday |
| 18:11.06 | A1win | hmm, now it hasn't crashed in two games in a row |
| 18:11.17 | A1win | only made a couple of actor message changes |
| 18:13.17 | A1win | might still be luck though |
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| 18:27.30 | pirate | what's the difference between 'weight' and 'chance to play' in sound data? |
| 18:31.27 | pirate | nvm |
| 18:39.08 | A1win | 3rd game no crash |
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| 18:46.14 | Dustin| | Gj A1win1 |
| 18:46.46 | A1win | if that fixed the crash, it has something to do with multiple SetOpacity or SetTintColor messages |
| 18:46.49 | A1win | opacity sounds more likely |
| 18:48.42 | Merc | hey DeadZergling |
| 18:48.50 | DeadZergling | hi Merc |
| 18:48.52 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/yem4c36ymc57low/serpent.rar |
| 18:49.12 | Merc | no team colors on it, was gonna be a critter wasnt it |
| 18:49.31 | DeadZergling | aye, team colors isn't too important for monsters |
| 18:49.51 | DeadZergling | will that stay available for quite awhile? that isn't too useful to me at work, lol |
| 18:49.57 | Merc | has vol targets and hit tests and such though |
| 18:50.14 | Merc | yeah I can let it stick around |
| 18:50.38 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, guess ill do my usual download it and mail myself it routine |
| 18:50.40 | DeadZergling | to be safe |
| 18:51.48 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, seems I'll have to get a different archive opener for this, lol |
| 18:52.00 | Merc | oh |
| 18:52.04 | Merc | I can zip it |
| 18:52.57 | DeadZergling | I tried to be good last night, get to sleep earlier, but alas, in bed I couldn't stop thinking about shit |
| 18:52.57 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/dgk5bp17wjypz3s/serpent.zip |
| 18:53.06 | Merc | write the shit down |
| 18:53.19 | Merc | instant peace of mind |
| 18:53.45 | DeadZergling | now this is really odd |
| 18:53.52 | DeadZergling | is telling me teh zip is invalid |
| 18:53.57 | Merc | huh |
| 18:54.07 | Merc | should be fine |
| 18:54.11 | Merc | redownload |
| 18:54.24 | DeadZergling | yea, something is screwed up on my end |
| 18:54.34 | DeadZergling | that raven isn't opening either, and I know it was fine last night |
| 18:56.37 | DeadZergling | I see, I'm a stupid user apparently |
| 18:56.48 | DeadZergling | was downloading the web page as a zip |
| 18:56.51 | DeadZergling | instead of the actual zip |
| 18:57.22 | Merc | >8--D |
| 18:57.24 | DeadZergling | only 1 I see, did you get the cobra or the wyrm? |
| 18:57.51 | Merc | cobra |
| 18:58.02 | Merc | could get the wyrm too if this works out |
| 18:58.35 | DeadZergling | won't know until I get home unfortunately |
| 18:59.08 | DeadZergling | easy way to check is to just import it into an empty map, save it to let the model/textures sync, close, reopen, then open the model in the cutscene editor |
| 18:59.21 | Merc | oh I know it works in the editor |
| 18:59.21 | DeadZergling | if you can get it to play animations, see the attachment points, all is well |
| 18:59.38 | Merc | I mean if it works out for you |
| 18:59.38 | DeadZergling | ah, what did you mean then? |
| 18:59.52 | DeadZergling | models that awesome, I'll make them work out for me |
| 18:59.53 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 18:59.54 | Merc | like, if you like it |
| 19:00.01 | Merc | oh alright |
| 19:00.14 | Merc | I'll do the wyrm too then |
| 19:00.18 | DeadZergling | I looked at absolutely all the snakes |
| 19:00.24 | DeadZergling | is why my shockwave crashed |
| 19:01.00 | Merc | uh oh |
| 19:01.02 | DeadZergling | I have mixed feelings about wind serpents though, lol |
| 19:01.10 | Merc | blizzard data people being creative with naming again |
| 19:01.32 | Merc | no wyrm |
| 19:01.35 | Merc | only a worm |
| 19:01.36 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/6iURnXm.png |
| 19:01.38 | DeadZergling | my favorite odd naming done by blizzard |
| 19:01.43 | DeadZergling | is the warmhole texture |
| 19:01.54 | Merc | the serpent was named "serpant" |
| 19:02.17 | DeadZergling | was Arcane Wurm/Wyrm or something like that |
| 19:02.21 | DeadZergling | let me go back on that site, i know the one |
| 19:02.53 | Merc | only thing named arcane is arcanevoidwrath |
| 19:02.57 | DeadZergling | http://www.wowhead.com/npc=26322 |
| 19:03.03 | Merc | looks pretty cool tbh |
| 19:03.25 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/o3EUoBt.png |
| 19:03.41 | DeadZergling | frozen, really |
| 19:04.07 | DeadZergling | wonder if it is somehow under serpent, or serpant then |
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| 19:06.48 | Merc | heh |
| 19:07.03 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/HT0OAEh.png |
| 19:07.27 | DeadZergling | Big Trouble in Little China monster right there |
| 19:07.33 | Merc | yeah |
| 19:07.36 | Merc | or DOOM |
| 19:07.40 | Merc | or was it quake |
| 19:07.49 | DeadZergling | was doom |
| 19:07.54 | DeadZergling | if you are referring to Cacodemons |
| 19:07.58 | Zolden | in doom it's red |
| 19:08.02 | Zolden | like a berry |
| 19:12.57 | DeadZergling | where do you get that program anyways Merc ? |
| 19:13.28 | Merc | actually I cant remember anymore |
| 19:13.39 | Merc | I only remember there's loads of different builds and only one of them ended up working |
| 19:13.48 | Merc | bit of trial and error |
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| 19:17.09 | Merc | holy shit http://i.imgur.com/1emgk8U.png |
| 19:21.47 | DeadZergling | i wonder if mine is considered a seasnake |
| 19:22.07 | Merc | it kinda was similar, but didnt have the texture |
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| 19:26.39 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, well was hopeful it'd be that one, but the main thing is I want it to be white/blue |
| 19:26.43 | DeadZergling | an aquatic type texture |
| 19:27.26 | DeadZergling | aquatic type I say, full knowing things in the ocean can be any damn color they please |
| 19:27.55 | Merc | it can have this skin http://i.imgur.com/cbrJTee.png |
| 19:28.04 | Merc | cant find the arcane wyrm at all |
| 19:29.35 | Merc | I can do that one if you like |
| 19:29.46 | Merc | tune it a bit bluer |
| 19:30.40 | DeadZergling | that one isn't bad at all, can you put the original in the zip as well for reference? |
| 19:31.15 | Merc | the arcane wyrm? |
| 19:31.43 | DeadZergling | the sea snake, http://i.imgur.com/cbrJTee.png |
| 19:32.10 | DeadZergling | wanting the original skin somewhere in addition to the bluer one |
| 19:32.18 | Merc | oh like that |
| 19:32.18 | Merc | sure |
| 19:33.02 | Merc | stand / walk / attack / death animations? |
| 19:33.18 | DeadZergling | aye |
| 19:33.38 | DeadZergling | as amusing as the idea of a walk animation is for a snake, lol |
| 19:33.44 | Merc | hur hur |
| 19:34.07 | DeadZergling | can you see if there is a kick animation as well, lol |
| 19:35.08 | Merc | kick? |
| 19:35.09 | Merc | urr |
| 19:35.36 | DeadZergling | was a joke :) |
| 19:35.45 | Merc | there's a run! |
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| 19:36.40 | Bounty | peow |
| 19:36.43 | Merc | pow |
| 19:39.30 | DeadZergling | Paper Towel Man, in the channel again! |
| 19:52.20 | DeadZergling | heh, this is pretty sad: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/12945804987 |
| 19:56.18 | Merc | shiiit |
| 19:56.21 | Merc | forgot the death animation |
| 19:56.22 | Merc | zzz |
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| 20:04.23 | DeadZergling | there is that yellow guy again |
| 20:05.03 | duckies | ,___, |
| 20:05.22 | DeadZergling | duckies, you wouldn't happen to know a trick to adjust an actor's baseline animations dynamically would you? lol |
| 20:05.30 | DeadZergling | it is raven related |
| 20:05.42 | duckies | what are baseline animations? :D |
| 20:05.48 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 20:06.05 | DeadZergling | actors for units all have them |
| 20:06.21 | DeadZergling | a baseline walk and baseline stand |
| 20:06.30 | JademusSreg | Yup. |
| 20:06.35 | DeadZergling | I tried to change it by reference via triggers, but told me access denied |
| 20:07.32 | JademusSreg | Can upgrades access them? |
| 20:08.05 | DeadZergling | hey Merc, how difficult would it be to get that crow again, only the animation for walk is the exact same as stand, lol |
| 20:08.14 | DeadZergling | no JademusSreg , they cannot |
| 20:08.33 | DeadZergling | I would have a playable crow character pretty much done if I had a raven like that |
| 20:08.57 | duckies | so what baseline animations are default animations called by some other fields like stand and fidget? |
| 20:09.16 | JademusSreg | Curious, why dynamically change the baseline? |
| 20:09.20 | duckies | *and move |
| 20:09.30 | DeadZergling | well, I have a certain actor set up a very particular way |
| 20:09.41 | DeadZergling | for the unit you use to fight |
| 20:09.55 | DeadZergling | it would be simplest to simply model swap that actor |
| 20:10.03 | JademusSreg | Not informative, but alright. Tried applying an animgroup? |
| 20:10.19 | DeadZergling | no, can animgroup change the baselines? |
| 20:10.57 | JademusSreg | It can at least append to the baseline, so if the baselines are empty, appending to them would make valid anims. |
| 20:11.10 | DeadZergling | not sure I've ever used animgroups to be honest |
| 20:11.39 | DeadZergling | is a macro an animgroup? |
| 20:12.59 | JademusSreg | An animgroup ("AnimGroup") is applied/removed via actor messages/event messages. |
| 20:13.27 | JademusSreg | Often used for models which contain multiple states. |
| 20:14.23 | DeadZergling | interesting, didn't think events could change the baseline |
| 20:14.41 | JademusSreg | States which in turn contain or otherwise "mix" with other animations. |
| 20:15.19 | Merc | this snake is being troublesome |
| 20:15.29 | Merc | the tail has some weird smoothing group shit going on |
| 20:15.39 | JademusSreg | The planetary fortress, for example, can be forced with an animgroup. So one can have the cannon popped up while flying the command center around. |
| 20:16.37 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 20:16.53 | DeadZergling | cool, be nice if I could do it this way, would make me employ far less workaround's to get duckies special character playable |
| 20:17.04 | DeadZergling | thx for the tips, JademusSreg |
| 20:17.36 | DeadZergling | I am trying duckies :) |
| 20:17.42 | duckies | <3 |
| 20:18.19 | A1win | wooh, took a couple of hours to edit a two and a half minute video |
| 20:18.27 | DeadZergling | another path that might work is if I had that same raven with stand, walk, attack, death animations, only the walk animation is the same as stand animation, just a different name |
| 20:18.29 | A1win | not sure how lame it is >_> |
| 20:18.46 | DeadZergling | how difficult would that be Merc ? |
| 20:19.07 | DeadZergling | believe me, you do NOT want the raven to use the glide animation when moving, it looks terrible, lol |
| 20:19.35 | A1win | some guy was asking me how I managed to make my input triggers not lag, he's been mapping for years and didn't even know what the script engine tick length is, was using 0.05 sec waits |
| 20:19.42 | A1win | he should've been on mapster ;[ |
| 20:19.54 | A1win | he was also using separate event for each player |
| 20:19.58 | Merc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:23.09 | DeadZergling | right |
| 20:23.26 | DeadZergling | I am sorry to make so many asks on you Merc , just determined to make this work for duckies, lol |
| 20:23.38 | Merc | ;) |
| 20:24.08 | Merc | struggling with this bug atm http://i.imgur.com/q7Tp223.png |
| 20:24.24 | Merc | Zolden is gonna rant about normals I bet |
| 20:25.01 | DeadZergling | by the way duckies , any hurt/death sounds you wanted in particular? |
| 20:25.02 | Merc | but I have been flipping and flopping to no avail |
| 20:25.32 | DeadZergling | that doesn't look bad at all from a distance |
| 20:25.42 | DeadZergling | kind of wtf up close though, lol |
| 20:25.46 | duckies | never thought about it dz, so I guess not at all |
| 20:26.04 | Merc | yeah guess it will work for your purposes |
| 20:26.33 | Merc | here's the "colder" version: http://i.imgur.com/aNkjUPI.png |
| 20:26.57 | DeadZergling | maybe.... I 'may' have been thinking about super-sizing it and making it into a boss |
| 20:28.10 | Zolden | Merc make speculars sharper or/and brighter |
| 20:28.45 | A1win | http://www.theonion.com/video/sponsored-new-video-games-secondperson-shooter-mod,36124/ |
| 20:28.56 | Merc | how is that gonna fix anything |
| 20:29.16 | Zolden | Merc this model needs it |
| 20:29.29 | Zolden | darker diffuse and brighter specs |
| 20:29.47 | Merc | I'm more focused on the black spots on the tail atm :p |
| 20:30.03 | Merc | havent even made emissives yet |
| 20:33.12 | DeadZergling | all right, well hope you appreciate this duckies , gonna go listen to crow noises awhile to make up some sounds for you |
| 20:34.14 | Merc | Zolden: this is what I am talking about: http://i.imgur.com/Zjr05zz.png |
| 20:34.21 | Merc | so weird |
| 20:34.46 | Zolden | does it have doubled meshes? |
| 20:34.47 | Merc | even if I flip the polygon normals indivudually |
| 20:34.52 | Merc | it still looks that way |
| 20:34.53 | Merc | hang on |
| 20:35.04 | Zolden | try to remove some to see if there doubled ones |
| 20:35.14 | duckies | caws |
| 20:35.18 | Merc | only has two meshes |
| 20:35.20 | Merc | body and eyes |
| 20:35.51 | Zolden | my unity shmup with spacy backfround http://i.snag.gy/ajR8D.jpg |
| 20:36.30 | Merc | looking good |
| 20:36.45 | Merc | got a parallax effect going on that background? |
| 20:36.48 | duckies | btw dz, wouldn't it be awesome if the crow was an unlockable character that you can select once you've beaten game once? at least that's how I imagined it in the beginning (am I really giving you yet more work to do? what about S3 and S3 boss?) |
| 20:36.51 | Zolden | yea, kinda |
| 20:36.56 | Merc | nice |
| 20:37.39 | DeadZergling | those bosses are still under construction planning to be honest, duckies , lol |
| 20:37.56 | Merc | screw this |
| 20:37.58 | DeadZergling | I have been pushing pretty hard though |
| 20:38.23 | Zolden | Merc I mean select those faces, check if they are doubled |
| 20:38.45 | Zolden | select mesh, go to edit faces mode, select black ones, remove, check if there anything behind them |
| 20:38.55 | Merc | if I select them and delete, they disappear |
| 20:39.07 | Merc | just a hole left |
| 20:39.11 | DeadZergling | I'll probably just add an extremely basic bank file |
| 20:39.28 | DeadZergling | high score, kill count, areas cleared, that's it |
| 20:39.40 | Zolden | ok, then manually flip the normals, triabgle by triangle |
| 20:39.44 | Zolden | oh, wait |
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| 20:39.58 | Merc | done that too :( |
| 20:40.02 | Zolden | try to select, then click again without moving mouse |
| 20:40.09 | DeadZergling | found the perfect crow sound file anyways, afk while I make it work |
| 20:40.18 | Zolden | will it select another one in the same sapce but with flipped normal? |
| 20:40.52 | Merc | what do you mean |
| 20:41.10 | Zolden | just select a face, then click again |
| 20:41.23 | Zolden | in max it will select other faces, that are located behind the one you just selected |
| 20:41.37 | Zolden | if it will not select anything, it will mean there are no doubled faces |
| 20:41.47 | Zolden | but if it will, it will mean that there are double faces |
| 20:42.09 | Zolden | clicks on duckies beak to see if it's selectable |
| 20:43.25 | Merc | oh one of the triangles seems to have been double |
| 20:43.26 | Merc | cool |
| 20:43.37 | Merc | deleted that one and it got cleaned up |
| 20:43.47 | duckies | beak relocates to a random place on screen. what is this magic!? |
| 20:46.02 | Zolden | ok, remove all doubled ones and unify |
| 20:46.39 | Zolden | sends duckies beak to attack enemy base |
| 20:49.14 | duckies | beak gives an error message "insufficent action points, spawn more ducks" |
| 20:51.02 | Zolden | builds duck spawnery |
| 20:51.24 | Merc | hmh |
| 20:51.26 | Dustin| | noooobs |
| 20:51.41 | Merc | started to look decent but now its all black and shitty again |
| 20:51.56 | Dustin| | Merc, u racist fuck! |
| 20:52.10 | Merc | can't help it |
| 20:52.13 | Zolden | who has android phone? |
| 20:52.13 | DeadZergling | lol, hi Dustin| |
| 20:52.18 | Merc | I has |
| 20:52.24 | Dustin| | hi :D |
| 20:52.29 | Dustin| | Me too Zolden |
| 20:52.34 | Zolden | i'd send you my unity game so u'd tell me what you don't like |
| 20:52.44 | Goa_ | Zolden hope you dont live in Abkhazia :) |
| 20:52.49 | Zolden | ok, hang on, i'll give you a link |
| 20:53.14 | Zolden | Goa_ lol, u pretty aware of stuff |
| 20:53.42 | Goa_ | :) |
| 20:53.52 | Goa_ | I am a Russian spy:) |
| 20:54.17 | Goa_ | working for KGB to overthrow the Hungarian government:) |
| 20:54.53 | Merc | holy shitfuck |
| 20:54.59 | Zolden | Merc show a screen of how shitty that is |
| 20:55.00 | Merc | zolden you beautiful russian |
| 20:55.09 | Merc | it looks shitty in 3ds max |
| 20:55.12 | Merc | but in sc2 it looks fine |
| 20:55.28 | Zolden | now try specs! |
| 20:55.46 | Merc | okok since you helped me so much |
| 20:56.56 | Merc | for some reason the B channel gets really raped in the DDS save |
| 20:57.01 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/4oUou5i.png |
| 20:57.56 | EntityEnigma | whoa cool |
| 20:58.02 | DeadZergling | here are some raven sounds for you to review, duckies : https://www.dropbox.com/s/lrc4srn2op59d1o/ravensounds.zip |
| 20:59.53 | EntityEnigma | im gonna sound really ignorant by asking this but |
| 20:59.57 | EntityEnigma | what is a mod file? |
| 20:59.59 | EntityEnigma | ... |
| 21:00.27 | duckies | I love listening to raven sounds before going to sleep. this said raven pain sounds are kinda painful |
| 21:00.55 | Dustin| | EntityEnigma, |
| 21:00.56 | DeadZergling | too loud, or just plain terrible? |
| 21:01.13 | duckies | make me cringe in pain, too emphatic |
| 21:01.15 | Dustin| | It's like a seperation of Map Terrain and Data/Triggers |
| 21:01.31 | DeadZergling | so in other words they are good for what I'm making, lol |
| 21:01.42 | EntityEnigma | is it like creating your own assets that you can load into other maps? |
| 21:02.00 | Dustin| | So you can have all your triggers and data work in a mod, then have like 5 different Terrain maps that use the mod, so you make 1 change to spread across 5 maps |
| 21:02.11 | duckies | entityenigma, mod = dependency |
| 21:02.38 | EntityEnigma | wow |
| 21:02.46 | DeadZergling | you could also use a mod to store models/textures/sound files to share across maps |
| 21:02.47 | EntityEnigma | that sounds convenient |
| 21:03.03 | Dustin| | and then there's Melee Extensions, which are like mods but work with melee maps |
| 21:03.06 | DeadZergling | so instead of having a model you really like that takes up 5 megs taking up 30 megs for 6 maps |
| 21:03.13 | DeadZergling | now it takes only 5 for all 6 |
| 21:03.20 | Dustin| | Oh it is EntityEnigma, esp if you have a big project or something that needs multiple maps |
| 21:03.47 | EntityEnigma | i need to learn how to make these then |
| 21:04.09 | Dustin| | when making a new map or mod, just go to Create mod instead of create map on the otpions list |
| 21:04.25 | Dustin| | then on your main maps include the saved mod as a dependancy |
| 21:04.36 | Dustin| | They are super simple to use |
| 21:04.40 | EntityEnigma | oh wow thats really simple |
| 21:04.41 | EntityEnigma | yeah |
| 21:05.30 | duckies | also, you must absolutely use mods if your map has imported assets |
| 21:05.41 | EntityEnigma | oh snap |
| 21:05.45 | duckies | to lessen unnecessary download for end users |
| 21:05.47 | EntityEnigma | okay |
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| 21:06.03 | duckies | so that they don't download all assets stacked in your mnap with every sily little update |
| 21:06.32 | A1win | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kG52KmCvRs0 thoughts? |
| 21:06.35 | A1win | trailer for my map |
| 21:07.46 | Zolden | A1win why no u talk? |
| 21:07.53 | EntityEnigma | i like the smoke from the damaged ship |
| 21:07.56 | EntityEnigma | nice touch |
| 21:08.03 | Zolden | explaining features could be useful |
| 21:08.03 | EntityEnigma | looks like a lot of cool weapons |
| 21:08.09 | A1win | Zolden, in a trailer? |
| 21:08.34 | Zolden | yea |
| 21:08.44 | A1win | don't think that's necessary though |
| 21:08.57 | Dustin| | Looks good! |
| 21:09.24 | A1win | EntityEnigma, hehe, the smoke has been there forever, and now like 3 people have mentioned in this week |
| 21:09.31 | A1win | and no one before that |
| 21:09.34 | EntityEnigma | lol |
| 21:10.03 | Dustin| | Ya smke was the only way to tell if your shit was jacked before |
| 21:11.02 | A1win | yeah |
| 21:11.13 | A1win | for some reason I thought health bars wouldn't look good |
| 21:11.21 | A1win | before I actually tried them properly :P |
| 21:11.50 | duckies | shiny. For some reason I imagined that players could select different avatars (2d human portraits) and when they chat a little border would appear on top of their ship with text and avatar, kinda like pilots saying something. But since killing chat ui is not an option I imagined them sometimes saying taunts based on situations. That added a nice character to the game. Too bad I'm hallucinating alot today :< |
| 21:12.17 | A1win | :x |
| 21:12.59 | EntityEnigma | oh whats the difference between a dependent mod and an extention mod |
| 21:13.07 | Merc | DeadZergling: https://www.dropbox.com/s/foxfbv04upvkm70/raven.zip |
| 21:13.13 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/0owtbirfdohmnqn/seasnake.zip |
| 21:13.55 | Merc | from what I've gathered, a dependant mod is like an archive you can fill with junk |
| 21:14.01 | Merc | data etc |
| 21:14.18 | Merc | an extension mod is something you can apply to any map in game |
| 21:14.21 | Merc | like gameheart |
| 21:14.46 | EntityEnigma | gameheart? |
| 21:14.53 | DeadZergling | assume this is the raven where walk uses the stand animation, Merc ? |
| 21:15.28 | duckies | yeah, extension mods are mods that modify melee games. you should check them out in custom games section on b-net enigma |
| 21:15.39 | Merc | raven is fixed yes |
| 21:15.49 | Merc | walk is flappy, stand is flappy |
| 21:16.15 | duckies | it's things like "all units explode" or "all minerals have 10000 resources" or "wandering minerals" |
| 21:16.17 | Zolden | duckies u have android device? |
| 21:16.19 | DeadZergling | cool deal, about 20 mins more at the data editor tonight |
| 21:16.25 | Zolden | A1win wanna test my unity shmup? |
| 21:16.29 | duckies | I do not have one of those zolden |
| 21:16.30 | DeadZergling | and I should have a playable Raven character |
| 21:16.56 | Zolden | JademusSreg u have android device? |
| 21:17.13 | Merc | gn8 m8s |
| 21:17.15 | DeadZergling | I need to implement tychus and the spectre now anyways |
| 21:17.27 | DeadZergling | considering tychus is quite clearly shown on the freaking game button, lol |
| 21:17.32 | duckies | so much to do, so little time :x |
| 21:17.34 | DeadZergling | thanks again Merc ! |
| 21:17.48 | Dustin| | EntityEnigma, For instance, I have a mod that has a bunch of Trigger Librarys that I use for projects. I can use that Dep Mod for developing new maps. An Extension mod I made adds 5 new game modes from SC1 to SC2 melee, it's used ingame on maps, Dep mods are for the editor |
| 21:17.56 | duckies | yeah, thanks for contributing to the dream of raven merc ! |
| 21:17.56 | Zolden | DeadZergling guess u're too busy to test my unity shmup |
| 21:18.18 | DeadZergling | im at work, if no special reqs I can goof off a bit |
| 21:18.28 | duckies | ah right, that reminds me! |
| 21:18.36 | duckies | facedesks, falls asleep |
| 21:18.54 | EntityEnigma | sounds like i only need to worry about dependent mods atm |
| 21:18.55 | EntityEnigma | thx! |
| 21:18.59 | Dustin| | yup, np! |
| 21:19.22 | Zolden | DeadZergling do you have android deveice? |
| 21:19.46 | DeadZergling | no, not at all, so guess I'm out |
| 21:19.51 | DeadZergling | sorry Zolden |
| 21:20.06 | Zolden | ok |
| 21:23.17 | Dustin| | DeadZergling, has a Nokia brick phone still |
| 21:23.24 | Dustin| | All he has is snake. |
| 21:23.37 | DeadZergling | no, it is even older, nokia flip phone |
| 21:23.51 | Dustin| | lol the brick was before the flip :P |
| 21:24.00 | DeadZergling | is still archaic |
| 21:24.11 | Dustin| | Oh im sure! |
| 21:24.21 | Dustin| | I havent had a flip phone since like 2004 |
| 21:24.26 | DeadZergling | but I don't use a phone for anything other than calls/voice mail |
| 21:24.29 | DeadZergling | so it suits my needs fine |
| 21:24.52 | Dustin| | Yeah im actually going back to a stupid phone after this contract and keeping my device as a wifi only smalltab |
| 21:26.37 | DeadZergling | if I want to do any more than those 2 things, I'll hop on a real fucking PC, lol |
| 21:26.50 | DeadZergling | me and touch screens don't get along |
| 21:28.03 | DeadZergling | so you'd like a couple of my newer monsters Dustin| , got the swarms and alien squids working |
| 21:29.14 | Dustin| | hahha awesome DeadZergling |
| 21:32.10 | DeadZergling | on a lesser sidenote, added a ton of text tags for guns/powerups/prizes, lame from a technical achievement stand point, but it makes the game look a lot more finished |
| 21:33.15 | pirate | my sounds are not behaving |
| 21:33.35 | pirate | on shuffle it says it won't play the same sound back to back but it lies |
| 21:33.42 | pirate | and it's not looping perfectly |
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| 21:40.38 | Serashin | Hello , could someone experienced in UI Triggers help me with this . I can give you the File , ive been trying allot of stuff but since my CC+ base is zero i kinda just get crazy at editing something and get again params |
| 21:41.10 | Serashin | http://i.imgur.com/1vOGRgU.jpg?1 is how it should not look like but is like that on en US |
| 21:41.24 | Serashin | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.06 | Tomura | it looks like a localization problem |
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| 21:48.40 | Serashin | Heres the file if u wanna take a look :x |
| 21:48.41 | Serashin | https://docs.google.com/file/d/0Bwn-8yJveltkSWcxZTVNdk13cms/edit |
| 21:54.30 | pirate | no SCU people are here, are they |
| 21:55.33 | Dustin| | Mille is the only one that pops in once in a while |
| 21:56.17 | pirate | grr, I heard they did what I'm trying to do with sound loops (not that's it's hard it's just not something many people would have experience with) |
| 22:08.30 | Dustin| | https://www.wizardwars.com/news/magicka-wizard-wars-stops-taking-its-beta-blockers-enters-open-beta-today |
| 22:18.24 | DeadZergling | geez, forgot how tiring summarizing stages was |
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| 22:52.46 | DeadZergling | so Dustin| , what you been up to anyways? |
| 23:05.45 | DeadZergling | 15 Stages mapped out, just 7 more to go, lol |
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| 23:30.25 | DeadZergling | greets castironpi |
| 23:30.28 | DeadZergling | err, Caz |
| 23:30.31 | Caz | lol |
| 23:30.34 | DeadZergling | hi to you too though castiron :) |
| 23:30.53 | Caz | hey =] |
| 23:31.17 | DeadZergling | been planning all my levels out for area 3 today |
| 23:31.23 | DeadZergling | holy shit is there a lot of them, and are they long |
| 23:32.28 | DeadZergling | what you been up to today? |
| 23:32.52 | castironpi | er yeah you too |
| 23:34.10 | DeadZergling | I tend to tab names in here, a lot, it shows, lol |
| 23:51.07 | Caz | I'm debating whether to continue or scrap the OOPenis galaxy rape |
| 23:51.48 | DeadZergling | while it is a noble effort, big question is, is it worth it? |
| 23:51.59 | Caz | idk lol |
| 23:52.13 | Caz | depends on how close it is to what i like lol |
| 23:52.39 | Caz | otherwise i might as well just go with global functions prefixed with struct type like PlayerData_Init() |
| 23:52.47 | Caz | and use those to do work on structs |
| 23:53.28 | Caz | somethin like void PlayerData_Init( PlyrDataRef pData); |
| 23:53.42 | Caz | would be faster to implement |
| 23:58.20 | DeadZergling | trouble with recording level data at work, I have to watch like 10 playthroughs to find a guy who goes the direction I want him to |
