| 00:00.26 | ArcanePariah | Add a damage response to the behavior, and have the handled effect do a issue order effect that stops the unit. |
| 00:00.49 | ArcanePariah | So it will start to flee, but immediately get an order to stop |
| 00:00.58 | Bibendus | mmm |
| 00:01.22 | ArcanePariah | And this should work because fleeing only occurs if the unit had no orders to begin with. |
| 00:01.35 | Bibendus | could work |
| 00:01.41 | Bibendus | and with triggers? |
| 00:01.43 | Caz | A1win - im not seeing any hero panel listed in the show/hides |
| 00:01.49 | ArcanePariah | Don't need the triggers |
| 00:01.49 | nice__username | Hey ArcanePariah I got it to work :) http://i.imgur.com/yzE9Rbe.gif |
| 00:02.05 | ArcanePariah | Caz, for the hero panel buttons, uncheck the Hero flag on the unit. |
| 00:02.10 | ArcanePariah | nice nice__username |
| 00:02.16 | nice__username | ^^;; |
| 00:02.22 | A1win | Caz, Show/Hide UI Frame action |
| 00:03.04 | Bibendus | lets try |
| 00:03.50 | Bibendus | what effect type can issue a stop order |
| 00:03.58 | ArcanePariah | Issue Order |
| 00:04.14 | Bibendus | issue order |
| 00:04.15 | Bibendus | ye :P |
| 00:04.16 | Bibendus | i m idiot |
| 00:04.39 | ArcanePariah | Set it to Caster Player for Player issuing order, and unit for order to caster unit. |
| 00:05.30 | Caz | ArcanePariah - unchecked flags:Hero |
| 00:05.37 | Caz | the hero buttons still showing up |
| 00:05.43 | Caz | the buttons for targetting them |
| 00:08.26 | Caz | Bahh gotta leave for movie |
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| 00:19.46 | Bibendus | where is the damage response |
| 00:19.52 | Bibendus | in the behavior |
| 00:20.18 | JademusSreg | Combat. |
| 00:20.40 | Bibendus | ye was looking here |
| 00:21.10 | Bibendus | found only death response |
| 00:22.34 | JademusSreg | iirc, Modifications : Combat and Combat are separate structs. =D |
| 00:23.06 | Bibendus | wut xd |
| 00:23.16 | Bibendus | oh its not in modifications |
| 00:23.17 | Bibendus | u mean? |
| 00:23.29 | Bibendus | damage response |
| 00:23.30 | Bibendus | ye :D |
| 00:23.41 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:24.34 | Bibendus | does it work only on damage |
| 00:24.43 | Bibendus | or even on negative debuffs? |
| 00:25.25 | Bibendus | mmm cant find the proper effect |
| 00:25.43 | Bibendus | exhausted |
| 00:25.46 | Bibendus | or handled |
| 00:37.40 | DeadZergling | well A1win , gonna try publishing the exact same stuff not working for my private map, just to see what happens |
| 00:37.48 | DeadZergling | knowing my luck, it will WORK for that map |
| 00:38.21 | A1win | what's the texture file called btw? |
| 00:38.42 | A1win | and is it under Assets/Textures/ ? |
| 00:39.13 | A1win | wondering if it might conflict with something in some weird way |
| 00:39.25 | DeadZergling | it isn't under Assets/Textures right now |
| 00:39.30 | DeadZergling | I can change it to be so though |
| 00:41.56 | Bibendus | damn the stop effect is not working |
| 00:43.29 | Bibendus | ArcanePariah |
| 00:43.38 | Bibendus | JademusSreg |
| 00:44.00 | Bibendus | what's the correct field for the effect in damage response |
| 00:47.39 | A1win | handled sounds right |
| 00:48.35 | A1win | does the stop effect replace existing orders? |
| 00:48.37 | Bibendus | i placed it in both |
| 00:48.47 | A1win | and is fleeing even an order that can be stopped with stop |
| 00:48.51 | Bibendus | lets check |
| 00:48.56 | Bibendus | i hope |
| 00:50.25 | Bibendus | where is the replace order |
| 00:50.34 | Bibendus | isn't it automatic |
| 00:52.42 | Bibendus | k the order is triggered |
| 00:52.59 | Bibendus | i used caster caster |
| 01:40.02 | DeadZergling | well A1win , custom images are not working for loading screen no matter what |
| 01:41.43 | A1win | only on the public version? |
| 01:41.57 | DeadZergling | correct, only on public |
| 01:42.42 | A1win | maybe try uploading an empty map with that name and then reupload the actual map? or something |
| 01:42.53 | A1win | or maybe something broke in the map archive |
| 01:43.07 | A1win | save it as component list and take a look if there's anything weird in assets or something |
| 01:43.20 | DeadZergling | dunno, trying to clear my programdata atm |
| 01:44.36 | A1win | the only problem I've had with loading screens was when I used the loading screen image as a texture on map start screen, the loading screen went blue after a second of loading |
| 01:44.48 | A1win | that started occurring when blizzard added the content streaming stuff in some patch |
| 01:45.18 | A1win | so I just imported it twice with different names and it worked fine |
| 01:45.49 | A1win | (after spending a lot of time figuring out why it turns blue) |
| 01:46.18 | A1win | did you try it with different name? |
| 01:46.29 | DeadZergling | tried a completely different named custom image |
| 01:47.08 | DeadZergling | so you think I might need to use an image, differently named, for the sole purpose of loading screen? |
| 01:47.09 | A1win | are you sure you're testing it in the same region you're uploading it to? ;p |
| 01:47.21 | DeadZergling | yes |
| 01:47.28 | A1win | what do you mean? |
| 01:47.46 | A1win | are you using that same image for something else? |
| 01:48.17 | DeadZergling | just for tutorial images/gameplay images |
| 01:48.23 | DeadZergling | to make sure there is little chance they don't see the controls |
| 01:48.38 | A1win | huh? |
| 01:48.44 | A1win | is that in-game? |
| 01:49.01 | A1win | anyway that was the first question I asked and you said no :P |
| 01:49.24 | A1win | so yeah, don't use the loading screen image for anything else |
| 01:49.28 | A1win | if you need to, make a copy of it |
| 01:54.06 | A1win | it somehow unloads it when it gets to the point during loading screen where it starts to initialize the map and loads it for some other purpose |
| 01:54.34 | DeadZergling | trying it anyways, where the image is used for nothing other than loading screen |
| 01:55.27 | A1win | maybe it works on private because there might be a difference with how the content streaming works on public/private |
| 01:55.43 | A1win | or something |
| 01:59.14 | DeadZergling | working now, for the private one... |
| 01:59.29 | A1win | didn't you say it works on private anyway? |
| 01:59.51 | DeadZergling | yes, i have been re-publishing and checking every time |
| 02:08.41 | DeadZergling | well, working now |
| 02:08.52 | DeadZergling | thx for the help :) |
| 02:43.00 | DeadZergling | for future reference to self, used in game can also mean, used in map info/bnet properties |
| 03:21.43 | sonicnite | a1 is AlphA_VsT? |
| 03:40.46 | DeadZergling | don't suppose there is a way I can create a region inside an action definition and have it go away when the definition is done |
| 03:59.04 | ArcanePariah | DeadZergling, you could create a region variable |
| 03:59.19 | DeadZergling | yes, but can I create a region out of nothing from it |
| 03:59.38 | ArcanePariah | Umm yes, there a number of functions to create regions at run time. |
| 04:00.09 | DeadZergling | run time isn't what I need though, I need it to occur when I call the action |
| 04:01.52 | ArcanePariah | Not sure I understand the intent. You can pass a region variable, or create a local region variable in the action. |
| 04:02.36 | DeadZergling | so I could create a local region circle for example, move it on top of a certain unit, and order other units to move to random points inside it? |
| 04:03.15 | ArcanePariah | Yes, there are 2 main functions to create regions, one is a circle and you pass it a point and a radius, the other is a rectangle which takes 4 points. |
| 04:03.58 | ArcanePariah | So in yoru case, you would have region from circle, and pass it the position of the unit, along with a radius, and then yes, issue orders to units to move to a rnadom point in a cricle region and use your region variable. |
| 04:04.39 | DeadZergling | good, was considering doing this a data way, but I think an action definition with a dynamic region will make my life much easier |
| 04:06.20 | ArcanePariah | Yes, for truly randomized targeting, you have to use triggers. |
| 04:06.44 | DeadZergling | yea... as fun as create persistents and random offsets can be |
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| 04:15.29 | Caz | ArcanePariah - you around? |
| 04:23.00 | Caz | My map is giving me the "too many move ability" errors and despite unchecking the heroic attribute and heroic flag, the map is still showing the hero pannel of buttons to select the heroes. |
| 04:23.12 | Caz | seems buggy |
| 04:31.39 | Caz | DeadZergling - u still here ? |
| 04:32.10 | DeadZergling | kind of, might have an easier time of things if you simply duped a zealot and its base actor |
| 04:32.21 | DeadZergling | and just moved all the abilities over to him, lol |
| 04:32.26 | Caz | i think my map is being buggy |
| 04:32.49 | Caz | arcanepariah said sometmies u get this bug where it says u have too mamny CAbilStop and such |
| 04:32.53 | Caz | u ever gotten it ? |
| 04:33.05 | Caz | also.. i repeat |
| 04:33.12 | Caz | i did duplicate a zealot for this hero |
| 04:33.14 | Caz | and its actor |
| 04:34.15 | Caz | just getting mad at buggy behavior of the editor |
| 04:34.34 | DeadZergling | well don't give up, I finally did get my loading screen back |
| 04:35.12 | Caz | nice |
| 04:35.18 | Caz | do u sometimes have bugs in testing |
| 04:35.21 | Caz | that arent there in published ? |
| 04:35.35 | DeadZergling | well, is usually the other way around :) |
| 04:35.46 | Caz | mh |
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| 04:36.10 | DeadZergling | everything is perfectly as perfect as can be in testing |
| 04:36.19 | DeadZergling | publish, shit won't stop hitting the fan |
| 04:37.40 | Caz | then im at a loss... arcane said removing hero flag would get rid of the button |
| 04:37.46 | Caz | i removed flag and attribute shit wont go away |
| 04:38.25 | DeadZergling | save it all up, clear out the battlenet/starcraft 2 stuff in programdata |
| 04:38.36 | DeadZergling | try again |
| 04:50.18 | DeadZergling | well this ought to go great, 200 line function with units I'm not sure I duped properly |
| 04:50.25 | DeadZergling | let the swearing begin |
| 04:55.15 | Caz | Lol |
| 04:55.30 | Caz | well atm i'm going through the process of making new units and copying shit over |
| 04:55.43 | Caz | doing so removed the hero icon/button for the medic |
| 04:55.55 | Caz | has to be a glitch with adding/removing hero flag |
| 05:05.31 | Caz | unclesatan u around ? |
| 05:15.56 | Bounty | second map so far https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68108247/SC2Editor%202014-05-26%2001-13-55-97.png |
| 05:18.45 | DeadZergling | stupid region question |
| 05:18.58 | DeadZergling | when I move a region to a unit, or attach a region to a unit, it moves that region so the unit is at the center right? |
| 05:29.44 | DeadZergling | apparently it does, just needed to make my swarmers move faster |
| 05:29.48 | DeadZergling | to realistically keep up |
| 05:29.55 | DeadZergling | it looks rather scary, actually |
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| 05:47.41 | Caz | DeadZergling - just wanted to let you know that i made new units, copied from the heroes that were causing the hero buttons. |
| 05:47.50 | Caz | The copied versions did not cause the buttons. |
| 05:48.38 | Caz | Makes no sense but whatever |
| 05:48.39 | Caz | it works |
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| 06:06.43 | unclesatan | just got back but i'm bout to head out again, sorry caz |
| 06:24.36 | DeadZergling | lol, Bounty's one comment so far : how have you combated the lag of sc2 bnet? |
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| 06:50.18 | DeadZergling | hi duckies, you on pretty frequently lately |
| 06:53.39 | duckies | expect me to disappear starting from tomorrow |
| 06:53.51 | duckies | I'm boarding d2 nostalgia train tomorrow |
| 06:53.58 | Merc | choo choo |
| 06:54.03 | duckies | ^^ |
| 06:54.18 | duckies | thought maybe you could drop me that crow texture to recolor |
| 06:54.33 | duckies | I'm now on work, don't have sc but do have gim :D |
| 06:54.42 | duckies | *gimp |
| 06:55.15 | DeadZergling | sure, i do have concerns about the attachment point though |
| 06:55.18 | DeadZergling | just to warn you |
| 06:56.39 | DeadZergling | I will get it put in eventually |
| 06:56.45 | DeadZergling | but may not be in time for the contest |
| 06:56.51 | duckies | it's fine |
| 06:57.00 | Merc | you making the crow playable? |
| 06:57.21 | DeadZergling | if I can get a carrion bird with a duck texture and weapon attachment point I am |
| 06:57.46 | Merc | wat |
| 06:57.49 | DeadZergling | oh good news duckies , I got swarms working |
| 06:57.53 | Merc | oddly specific |
| 06:58.04 | duckies | what are swarms?:D |
| 06:58.24 | DeadZergling | is a Master Orb, and 16 follower orbs |
| 06:58.37 | DeadZergling | the master orb goes right for you, w/ the 16 swarming about him |
| 06:58.39 | duckies | oh, the killer swarm |
| 06:58.56 | DeadZergling | if he dies, they die shortly after, but not before giving one last charge |
| 06:59.05 | Merc | just snag a carrion bird from world of warcraft |
| 06:59.14 | Merc | reskin, throw attachment points |
| 06:59.21 | Merc | all over that shit |
| 06:59.23 | DeadZergling | do you need the specular as well duckies , or just the diffuse? |
| 06:59.24 | Merc | then stuff it in there |
| 06:59.34 | duckies | ! that is a good idea, wow probably has some good ravens/carrion birds |
| 06:59.45 | Merc | http://www.ownedcore.com/forums/world-of-warcraft/world-of-warcraft-model-editing/120561-reskin-carrion-bird-outland.html |
| 06:59.49 | Merc | first google search |
| 07:00.00 | Merc | so yeah, fire up that wowmodelviewer |
| 07:00.11 | duckies | just diffuse |
| 07:00.28 | duckies | I have no idea on how to work with speculars ?D |
| 07:01.26 | duckies | no merc, I want this as playable character :D |
| 07:01.28 | duckies | http://gamediplomat.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/GilneanRaven.jpg |
| 07:01.32 | Merc | speculars is just a grayscale map where the bright areas are the shiny bits |
| 07:01.58 | DeadZergling | btw duckies, I'll need a good duck icon |
| 07:02.10 | Merc | well if it has flying animations and attack animations, then you got a playable character dont you |
| 07:04.34 | duckies | I'm just warning you, my best graphical work was cutting a transperant circle on top of automatons head to add team color to it. Even though I'm eager to try new things if they end up crap we'll might need someone more adequate for the task |
| 07:05.00 | DeadZergling | I lack the time and the ability for this kind of task |
| 07:05.09 | DeadZergling | which is why I won't even touch it, lol |
| 07:05.57 | duckies | understandable |
| 07:06.17 | DeadZergling | pics are sent |
| 07:06.21 | DeadZergling | I sent you both just in case |
| 07:06.49 | duckies | k |
| 07:07.29 | DeadZergling | I'm still pretty stoked about how well my swarm turned out |
| 07:08.04 | DeadZergling | i'll be publishing a version with it before I hit the bed tonight |
| 07:08.23 | duckies | if it behaves similiary to the original one it must be truly cool to see |
| 07:10.08 | DeadZergling | it looks more robotic then fluid |
| 07:10.17 | DeadZergling | but the overall scary factor is still very much there |
| 07:10.42 | DeadZergling | I went with the Raven Seeker Missile model for it, colored yellow |
| 07:11.25 | DeadZergling | I learned how to dynamically create regions inside temporary action definitions just for it |
| 07:13.31 | DeadZergling | anyways, gonna be more quiet again, need to focus on getting the Twin Spiders boss done |
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| 07:43.51 | DeadZergling | Jojo, making even checking into a damn hotel room exciting |
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| 07:58.33 | sonicnite | death tv is a good game... |
| 07:58.53 | sonicnite | its beta that came out 2 days ago |
| 07:58.59 | sonicnite | but its like a final game |
| 08:01.39 | DeadZergling | glad you like it, sonicnite |
| 08:02.19 | sonicnite | didnt get far in it |
| 08:02.27 | sonicnite | gonna play it again after ppl join |
| 08:04.50 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity, what do you mean when you say, 'its like a final game' ? |
| 08:05.13 | sonicnite | got to the first boss it seems finished |
| 08:05.36 | DeadZergling | yea, is pretty finished up through boss 2 |
| 08:05.47 | DeadZergling | I'm gonna try to have semiboss 3 and boss 3 done before May 31 |
| 08:07.10 | sonicnite | theres already star smash tv on sc2 |
| 08:07.20 | sonicnite | didnt know about it |
| 08:07.45 | DeadZergling | aye, but it is modeled after SC1's smash tv |
| 08:07.51 | DeadZergling | is a much different game |
| 08:10.09 | DeadZergling | Dustin| made that one |
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| 08:19.23 | sonicnite | ppl saying they keep losing themselves |
| 08:19.29 | sonicnite | as in they cant figure out which unit is theirs |
| 08:19.44 | sonicnite | until after moving in a circle for awhile |
| 08:23.47 | duckies | yeah, I experience the same thing |
| 08:24.16 | DeadZergling | fine, will put in a big ugly aesthetic ruining circle |
| 08:24.27 | duckies | you constantly move, then look elsewhere while still moving, then look back and you can't really find yourself anymore for a few secs |
| 08:24.53 | duckies | I told you, add a big ugly cilinder that is toggleable, toggleable cilinders are awesome |
| 08:24.59 | duckies | everyone knows that! |
| 08:25.20 | duckies | or maybe everyone are british, dunno |
| 08:25.24 | sonicnite | its hard to play with input lag from server delay |
| 08:26.15 | sonicnite | player units movements are sluggish |
| 08:28.50 | sonicnite | ppl saying the wurm gun sucks |
| 08:30.36 | sonicnite | i thought that game was good tho |
| 08:31.04 | sonicnite | that type of gameplay could be in a zombie map |
| 08:31.32 | DeadZergling | Wurm Gun goes back and forth between OP and too weak, lol |
| 08:31.57 | duckies | besides blaster whrym gun is the least penetrating gun of all. I suppose that the quantity of enemies make such weapon lackluster |
| 08:32.00 | duckies | :( |
| 08:32.41 | sonicnite | other player says they havent seen anything but garbage |
| 08:33.26 | sonicnite | at the tantanka swarm |
| 08:35.39 | DeadZergling | meh, can't expect everyone to like every gun |
| 08:36.01 | sonicnite | whats the flowers and fruits |
| 08:36.11 | DeadZergling | prizes |
| 08:36.19 | DeadZergling | just worth points, simply |
| 08:36.53 | Merc | you know, a really nice feature in that game would be to have floating text appear when you pick something up |
| 08:37.07 | Merc | just "+1000 points!" for example |
| 08:37.15 | duckies | but wurm gun is awesome for distraction for not spam waves :D |
| 08:37.21 | Merc | "Picked up wurm gun!" |
| 08:37.24 | DeadZergling | it isn't that hard to do, just hasn't been terribly important to me |
| 08:37.28 | duckies | yea, impactful text tags +1 |
| 08:38.23 | DeadZergling | I'm not a fan of text numbers flying every which way |
| 08:38.37 | Merc | doesn't have to be distracting |
| 08:39.04 | Merc | even sc2 pros prefer to play with the +xp notifier on when units are killed |
| 08:39.13 | Merc | because it's a good confirmation that something died |
| 08:39.40 | duckies | would fit well with whole spirit of smash tv, "Big prizes, BIG money, Impactful text" |
| 08:39.42 | Merc | might be a bit much work to throw in at this point though |
| 08:40.06 | duckies | though units killed would probably be too much spam |
| 08:40.16 | duckies | but for pickups would be awesome I belive |
| 08:40.33 | Merc | yeah units killed would be crazy :p |
| 08:40.39 | duckies | poor dz, has to do so many little things he doesn't care about =D |
| 08:41.45 | duckies | I kinda miss the whole "I'd buy that for a dollar" stuff, even though it was from robocop initially |
| 08:42.17 | duckies | damn, those early games were awesome, ripping off everything, but nobody cared about that back then. awesome 90s |
| 08:42.22 | DeadZergling | I tried that, but the audio turned out really bad |
| 08:42.33 | DeadZergling | so I had to dump a week or two worth of work |
| 08:42.59 | DeadZergling | I don't get how this Pickup Health100 Text is getting created, lol |
| 08:43.18 | duckies | don't do it thorugh data |
| 08:43.27 | duckies | do it through triggs, much easier |
| 08:43.52 | sonicnite | at the 2nd boss |
| 08:43.53 | DeadZergling | if one could tell me how this damned Pickup Health100 Text is created |
| 08:44.01 | DeadZergling | I could probably do it for all pickups in an hour or less |
| 08:44.20 | duckies | just type "pickup" in search in actors |
| 08:44.51 | duckies | there will be text hitter and movers for each (or something like that) |
| 08:45.21 | duckies | and then you'll need to link them to pickup effect |
| 08:45.50 | duckies | but if you don't have a pickup effect and you do it through triggers, you'll need to create it, since you can't just use death event |
| 08:46.00 | duckies | so do it trigger-man way :3 |
| 08:46.55 | DeadZergling | yea, if it is that stupid, I may as well |
| 08:47.02 | DeadZergling | I have effect catchers for most of that shit anyways |
| 08:47.22 | DeadZergling | anyways, put in a disgustingly large selection circle around the hero |
| 08:47.37 | DeadZergling | if you can't figure out it is your guy, you need to be put in Scarred Face's Ass |
| 08:48.08 | duckies | dz discriminates against ppl who get lost in his map! :< |
| 08:48.21 | sonicnite | at scarred face the pyro theres ppl dying for no reason |
| 08:48.44 | duckies | people die for no good reason all the time, it's human nature :> |
| 08:48.47 | DeadZergling | I sincerely doubt they are dying for no reason |
| 08:48.47 | duckies | * :< |
| 08:48.53 | sonicnite | they didnt get hit by anything |
| 08:49.14 | DeadZergling | do these people have low graphics settings, by chance? |
| 08:49.41 | sonicnite | one of them does |
| 08:49.57 | sonicnite | the guy dying for nothing is on max settings |
| 08:50.42 | sonicnite | that boss blows its at 65/100 health after 10 minutes gone by |
| 08:51.09 | duckies | hm, come to think of it, the only true disappointment I had so far .. was that secret rooms weren't as fabulous as in original :s |
| 08:53.09 | DeadZergling | yea yea yea, trying to remember how to make silly trigger text tags now, just for you duckies |
| 08:54.09 | duckies | text tag in search, 1) create text tag (at position of unit) 2) set text tag duration 3)set text tag velocity. It autodestroys self after duration time ran out |
| 08:54.37 | duckies | it's not just for me, it's for me and Merc! :D |
| 08:58.28 | DeadZergling | all right, crapped one together |
| 08:58.37 | DeadZergling | see how it looks before I make the others, come up with random messages for them |
| 09:01.54 | sonicnite | wheres sixen? |
| 09:07.58 | DeadZergling | all right, before I do this shit |
| 09:08.09 | DeadZergling | how are points usually displayed... |
| 09:09.44 | duckies | first time display the name "Crytecth Toaster 200 CX-E", second time just go for score "2000" "4500" "9000!" |
| 09:10.22 | Bounty | is Blizzard doing another test event? |
| 09:10.35 | duckies | really, just try and see how it goes >.> |
| 09:10.48 | DeadZergling | wouldn't count on it, they haven't even updated the eligible entries in 13 days |
| 09:10.49 | duckies | no idea bounty :s |
| 09:11.22 | Bounty | starting to think I'm wasting my time with this |
| 09:11.27 | Bounty | lol |
| 09:12.27 | DeadZergling | I fucking know I am |
| 09:13.17 | DeadZergling | like should I go PrizeName + 3000 |
| 09:13.23 | DeadZergling | +3000 PrizeName |
| 09:13.26 | DeadZergling | what looks best? |
| 09:13.48 | duckies | what prizenames you have? |
| 09:14.09 | duckies | maybe Prizename (+3000) |
| 09:14.11 | DeadZergling | Bag of Cats, Celebrity's Laundry, only the most ridiculous I can think of |
| 09:14.41 | duckies | yea, I'd collect some bags of cats! |
| 09:14.54 | duckies | always can use more of those |
| 09:16.41 | DeadZergling | Bieber Music Collection (-100) |
| 09:22.58 | DeadZergling | Pre-soaked Swimsuit in Paper Bag (+10) |
| 09:25.36 | DeadZergling | based on the prize icons in bottom right corner, anyone have any ideas for fun prize names? http://img.ctrlv.in/img/14/05/26/53830873e7452.png |
| 09:39.53 | DeadZergling | oh I see, give me a horrible text naming task to do that you all want done, then suddenly need to afk when I ask :P |
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| 09:49.12 | InEvitabLe | Can someone give me a short explanation of what extension mods and dependent mods are? I want to create a mod with custom units so i can use the same units in two of my maps |
| 09:49.36 | DeadZergling | just for that, I'm adding a year's worth of poultry products as a prize |
| 09:50.02 | DeadZergling | has no bearing on your question btw InEvitabLe , lol |
| 09:51.42 | InEvitabLe | Well, i will just try both of them and test it out, its InEvitabLe after all |
| 09:52.09 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, just hard to answer that question as you put it, both could do what you want honestly, lol |
| 09:52.42 | DeadZergling | but im gonna guess an extension mod suits your needs better |
| 09:52.58 | InEvitabLe | okay thanks :) |
| 09:53.24 | DeadZergling | see, an extension mod can be used on any map |
| 09:53.27 | DeadZergling | in bnet |
| 09:53.45 | DeadZergling | however, since they are both your maps, you could use a dependent mod to get them in there as well |
| 09:55.49 | InEvitabLe | Then is sounds like the dependent mod suits me better^^ |
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| 11:10.15 | DeadZergling | really stupid question, how much vespene does a probe return in one trip |
| 11:10.41 | DeadZergling | was 8 in original sc, but no clue what it is now |
| 11:11.57 | Bounty | Couldn't you just boot up a VS AI match and play as protoss? |
| 11:12.10 | DeadZergling | could, but figure someone must know :P |
| 11:13.21 | DeadZergling | oh well, they get 8 like original sc then |
| 11:16.15 | DeadZergling | was just coming up with random prizes |
| 11:16.35 | DeadZergling | some ridiculously good, some actually making you lose points |
| 11:37.49 | Merc | I still think you should let players drag enemies over the land mines |
| 11:38.17 | Merc | I kept trying to do that when I played the game |
| 11:38.34 | Merc | even after finding out it didnt work, just in case I was wrong the first time |
| 11:39.02 | DeadZergling | they wouldn't be worth having if that was the case, enemies would suddenly explode and no one would know what the mines are, lol |
| 11:40.55 | Merc | hm, maybe |
| 11:41.11 | DeadZergling | their key purpose is to ensure players can't just run in circles and win |
| 11:44.10 | DeadZergling | i do know what you are saying, and have played games/bosses with such strategies |
| 11:44.14 | DeadZergling | but not gonna do that here |
| 11:44.40 | Merc | nice feeling as a player to game the game, beating the system |
| 11:44.45 | Merc | get to sit there and be all smug |
| 11:45.48 | Merc | maybe... if the land mines only activate if a player is nearby, but it can be "confused" if an NPC steps on it instead |
| 11:47.49 | DeadZergling | anyways good news, finally got the loading screen fixed |
| 11:47.52 | DeadZergling | now shows again |
| 12:05.13 | DeadZergling | such a great future Death TV is set in, you can win a Year's Worth of Oxygen! |
| 12:05.19 | Merc | nice |
| 12:05.47 | DeadZergling | yea, decided to go w/ variety on prizes |
| 12:05.56 | DeadZergling | Pandora's Bag gives -25000 to 125000 points |
| 12:06.09 | DeadZergling | Mengsk's Bank Account Gives 100k |
| 12:06.19 | DeadZergling | Probe's Harvest of Vespense Gives + 8 |
| 12:07.02 | DeadZergling | made up about 50-60 random prizes |
| 12:07.31 | DeadZergling | I hate to admit it, but these damned text tags make it feel a lot more like a nearly finished game |
| 12:07.53 | Merc | text tags? |
| 12:08.04 | DeadZergling | yes, now powerup/weapon/prize pickups |
| 12:08.07 | DeadZergling | will tell you what you got |
| 12:08.11 | Merc | ahh cool |
| 12:08.20 | Merc | so it wasnt that tricky to set up? |
| 12:09.27 | DeadZergling | no, tricky was being creative with prize names without getting a CR issue popping up |
| 12:09.48 | DeadZergling | duckies explained it in a way that I could throw it together real fast |
| 12:09.52 | Merc | cool |
| 12:10.51 | DeadZergling | Didn't get nearly the boss work done I wanted to |
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| 13:36.01 | Goa_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9K6R35Ah-k |
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| 14:31.42 | Zwappie | hello |
| 14:32.21 | Zwappie | would someone explain to me how a beam visual is attached to an ability |
| 14:34.20 | DeadZergling | afraid I lack the patience to do such a thing, let me link you to a nice tutorial about it though |
| 14:34.22 | DeadZergling | one second |
| 14:34.46 | DeadZergling | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/3939-data-working-with-beams-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 14:34.52 | DeadZergling | that is the best place to start imo |
| 14:35.19 | Zwappie | thanks |
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| 15:14.20 | Vindicator | i'm kinda freaking out. i haven't been able to publish my game for the past day and haven't found anyone who knows whats wrong. |
| 15:14.39 | Vindicator | i have 7 mods in my map. if i remove 2, i can publish, if i re-add either of those two, it fails to publish |
| 15:14.47 | Vindicator | one of the mods just has music files, nothing more |
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| 15:15.19 | Vindicator | it says "unable to validate dependencies" |
| 15:16.17 | Caz | Vindicator - coming into this late. What's ur issue? |
| 15:16.21 | Vindicator | i've republished the dependencies and reassociated them, making sure they are up to date in the map, and nothing is fixing it |
| 15:16.30 | Caz | Ewe |
| 15:16.35 | Vindicator | i haven't been able to publish my map for the past day for the contest |
| 15:16.36 | Vindicator | freaking out |
| 15:17.03 | Vindicator | i have 7 mods, if i remove 2 i can pubish, but if i re-add either of those two, it fails and says it can't validate dependencies |
| 15:17.35 | Vindicator | one of the problematic dependencies just has music files in it and has published in the past for months |
| 15:17.38 | Vindicator | successfully |
| 15:19.08 | Caz | Could try copying data over from the music mod into a new mod and see if it lets that one sync up. |
| 15:19.33 | Caz | Seems silly but last night i had hero buttons that would not go away despite the hero flag being unchecked... copying the heroes onto new units removed them |
| 15:19.42 | Vindicator | .. i guess. i'll try it and let u know |
| 15:19.42 | Caz | buggy shit this editor has |
| 15:31.18 | Vindicator | didn't work |
| 15:31.35 | Caz | but it used to work ? |
| 15:31.37 | Caz | with all 7 |
| 15:31.40 | Vindicator | ya |
| 15:31.49 | Caz | editor hates u :P |
| 15:31.51 | Vindicator | one of them was new over the past week, but i removed it |
| 15:32.07 | Vindicator | and a music mod that's worked for months won't work while it's associated |
| 15:32.12 | Vindicator | that's the one i just went and remade |
| 15:32.19 | Caz | so weird. |
| 15:32.58 | Vindicator | ya, i found others complaining about the same error early in the month on the forums and blizzard said they were aware of an issue in the first week of may, but.... i can't publish my contest entry at this rate |
| 15:34.56 | Vindicator | it actually wasn't the exact same error, i take that back, Ahli posted it saying that a publishing error was saying "header transmission failed" |
| 15:35.09 | Vindicator | i can usually fix that if it happens |
| 15:35.13 | Vindicator | but not this one.. ugh |
| 15:35.15 | Caz | i used to have the header file issue. |
| 15:35.19 | Caz | how did u fix urs? |
| 15:35.27 | Caz | mine just went away over a day or so |
| 15:35.36 | Vindicator | i think that's one i fixed by removing the variants and adding new ones |
| 15:35.43 | Caz | ah |
| 15:35.55 | Caz | they were having log-in errors when mine started up |
| 15:36.01 | Caz | so they cleared up together |
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| 15:38.57 | Repo | New map: Battle of Three - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/battle-three/ |
| 15:39.55 | Caz | *wave* Repo |
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| 15:51.15 | Caz | JademusSreg - o/ |
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| 15:52.00 | Caz | ArcanePariah - o/ |
| 15:52.32 | Caz | ArcanePariah - remember my issue with hero buttons yesterday? |
| 15:53.06 | Caz | the UI buttons popping up for targetting heroes. |
| 15:54.33 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 15:54.38 | ArcanePariah | Also, good morning |
| 15:54.39 | ArcanePariah | :D |
| 15:54.52 | Caz | good morning to you :3 |
| 15:54.55 | Caz | well get this |
| 15:55.07 | Caz | flagging / deflagging hero did nothing |
| 15:55.22 | Caz | changing actor settings did nothing.. couldnt find UI panel crap |
| 15:55.27 | Caz | muddle around online |
| 15:55.32 | Caz | forum agreed with u |
| 15:55.41 | Caz | DZ suggesting duping a zealot and moving abilities over |
| 15:55.54 | Caz | so i made a new unit and told it to copy from the hero i made |
| 15:56.03 | Caz | with no other changes made |
| 15:56.09 | Vindicator | hey arcane, would you have any idea how to get past an error like this |
| 15:56.10 | Vindicator | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/12946014904 |
| 15:56.10 | Caz | the hero buttons went away for the new unit |
| 15:56.16 | Caz | that was a copy |
| 15:56.21 | Caz | yet the buttons still popped up for the originals |
| 15:56.27 | Caz | wonky shit right there |
| 15:57.04 | ArcanePariah | Caz, yes, indeed. |
| 15:57.58 | ArcanePariah | Vindicator, if turtles sugguestion did not work (manage published), then my next question is, are the dependencies that are not in the map account unlocked? |
| 15:58.10 | Vindicator | they are unlocked |
| 15:58.24 | Vindicator | one is just music files that have published successfully for months |
| 15:58.40 | ArcanePariah | Ok, next question, did you set within the map to use latest? |
| 15:58.46 | Vindicator | i just went and recreated a new mod and plopped the same music in it and republished it and reassociated it to my map and still didn't work |
| 15:58.52 | Vindicator | ya, all the basic stuff like that is checked |
| 15:58.52 | ArcanePariah | For all dependencies? |
| 15:58.55 | ArcanePariah | Ok |
| 15:58.57 | Vindicator | yes latest for all |
| 15:59.18 | ArcanePariah | If you could, what is the name of the dependency causing issues? |
| 15:59.23 | Vindicator | DUMU |
| 15:59.31 | Vindicator | it's literally just music files |
| 16:00.23 | Vindicator | also, something that shows up during publishing immediately before the dependency validation error is that it's in the process of uploading LargeImage.dds and i can't even find a file named that |
| 16:00.47 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, I think I know the issue. You said it only recently starting doing this, correct? |
| 16:00.58 | Vindicator | ya |
| 16:01.34 | Vindicator | the version of the mod i just made says 2.1.11 instead of 2.1.2 which is odd but dunno if that's an issue |
| 16:01.45 | Vindicator | like, for editor version it was saved with |
| 16:02.11 | ArcanePariah | I think your mod is too large. Right now its slightly over 60MB |
| 16:02.15 | Vindicator | it's worked for months |
| 16:02.19 | Vindicator | that's not the problem |
| 16:02.37 | Vindicator | another mod with a size of 10kb is doing the same thing to the map |
| 16:02.47 | ArcanePariah | Interesting |
| 16:03.00 | Vindicator | if u look at my original forum post i mention 2 mods are causing the issue, if either are added it causes this error, and the other one is 10kb |
| 16:05.40 | ArcanePariah | Ok, might be related, is your editor/sc2 up to date? |
| 16:06.35 | Vindicator | absolutely |
| 16:07.29 | ArcanePariah | Ok, I also assume you have saved and uploaded a fresh copy of every dependency? |
| 16:08.26 | Vindicator | not every one |
| 16:08.31 | Vindicator | it works for publishing if i remove 2 |
| 16:08.44 | Vindicator | i can't remove others, they are associated with dozens of things |
| 16:08.46 | Vindicator | each |
| 16:11.18 | ArcanePariah | Are the 2 problematic dependencies in the same account as the map or in the other account? |
| 16:19.12 | Vindicator | the music one is in another account, but again, worked for months, the 10kb one is on the same account as the mapfile |
| 16:19.29 | Vindicator | the 10kb one is DLS |
| 16:19.33 | Vindicator | if u wanna search for it |
| 16:19.41 | Vindicator | it's just sounds defined in the data editor |
| 16:30.42 | EntityEnigma | great to see so much activity in the channel lately |
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| 16:31.57 | ArcanePariah | All hail the duckies |
| 16:32.00 | ArcanePariah | :P |
| 16:32.15 | ArcanePariah | Vindicator, unfortunetly I can not determine what is wrong :( |
| 16:32.30 | duckies | hello arcane :D |
| 16:34.29 | Vindicator | k thanks for trying |
| 16:37.57 | A1win | wtf now my map crashed to An unexpected fatal error occurred. |
| 16:38.45 | A1win | apparently it doesn't like it when I bind a key to Shift |
| 16:39.12 | A1win | or it doesn't at least save it to the bank for some reason |
| 16:39.21 | A1win | which is weird, as those should just be integers... |
| 16:40.00 | A1win | and it worked before |
| 16:40.04 | A1win | mmh now it isn't crashing though |
| 16:40.08 | A1win | alt and control are saved fine |
| 16:40.16 | A1win | but shift just resets to none |
| 16:42.35 | A1win | so why does it return "None" key when it reads the keycode for shift from the bank |
| 16:44.13 | A1win | oh, it actually stores 0 to it |
| 16:44.31 | A1win | but why is that... |
| 16:46.10 | A1win | wait what, how can the keycode for Shift be -1 O_o |
| 16:47.13 | A1win | err, it's 0 |
| 16:47.31 | A1win | maybe I'm checking for zero somewhere |
| 16:47.36 | Caz | Friend said his weapon icon on the hero that shows damage, range, speed etc etc disappeared |
| 16:47.45 | Caz | any idea where that might be put back in ? |
| 16:48.23 | A1win | ok so it saves it correctly but reads wrong... |
| 16:53.46 | A1win | hah, it was because of default value... |
| 16:53.53 | A1win | it was (No value) which the game thought as "0" |
| 16:54.00 | A1win | even though the None key is -1, and Shift is 0 |
| 16:54.13 | A1win | well now it works when it defaults to None (-1) |
| 17:09.19 | Caz | Can i make a unit unable to be effected by enemy abilities/effects ? |
| 17:09.28 | Caz | affected* |
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| 17:23.40 | UnReached | Exportet a Model in 3ds max 11 with Art Tools - but transparency is rendered as team color. Seeking Assistance :) |
| 17:24.38 | A1win | the material has Team Color Add mode enabled for emissive component |
| 17:24.56 | A1win | (not sure if anything else can make team color) |
| 17:29.12 | UnReached | no, its "Add" - "Team Color Add" is/was not selected |
| 17:29.42 | A1win | hmmh |
| 17:29.57 | A1win | maybe the material needs to be something else than Opaque to use transparency |
| 17:30.20 | A1win | try changing it to Blend or something, can't remember what all the modes were |
| 17:30.36 | A1win | it's in the root settings for the material |
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| 17:50.06 | ArcanePariah | Bibendus, did the anti-flee thing work? |
| 17:50.06 | UnReached | doesnt work either^^ |
| 17:50.42 | A1win | I don't remember the team color stuff very well, I've only exported a few models |
| 17:50.54 | A1win | ask Zolden or TwoDie when they're around |
| 17:57.33 | UnReached | k |
| 17:59.20 | Merc | UnReached: in the material properties for the object in 3ds max, in the rolldown menu that says "specular", change this to Mask |
| 17:59.49 | Merc | that will unlock a materal texture parameter further down in the list called Alpha Mask |
| 18:00.19 | Merc | in the pulldown menu that says Opaque you can select between different modes of transparency |
| 18:00.31 | Merc | this should be covered in the Art Tools documentation |
| 18:01.28 | Merc | probably want to set the diffuse map to only use RGB as well, and not RGBA |
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| 18:04.22 | Merc | did you catch all that UnReached |
| 18:07.53 | Merc | duckies: http://i.imgur.com/Co7jrxq.png |
| 18:09.12 | duckies | what about ravens merc ? the initial idea was to have the raven from select screen to be playable |
| 18:09.32 | duckies | but since he really had no porper anims dz settled for crrion bird |
| 18:10.11 | Merc | http://i.imgur.com/ATMqbIt.png |
| 18:11.59 | Merc | want me to export it for you? |
| 18:12.47 | duckies | that would be awesome |
| 18:13.30 | duckies | export and offer it to dz when he's on. In my imagination pew-pewing as black raven would be hilarioulsy amazing |
| 18:14.01 | duckies | also, he's got that nice look of "I don't give a sh*t about anything" |
| 18:14.17 | duckies | perfect for some low-moral futuristic madness :D |
| 18:19.14 | Merc | does it need team color? |
| 18:19.19 | Merc | figure it does, with more players |
| 18:23.37 | duckies | yea^ |
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| 18:32.32 | ArcanePariah | JademusSreg, or Ahli, I have dependency question. Is there any issue in the following scenario: Dependency A has 2 dependencies, B and C, and both B and C have dependency D. |
| 18:33.00 | ArcanePariah | Will the editor properly recognize that and not add D twice? |
| 18:34.26 | Ahli | it should work,I guess... The dependency window indicates that it creates a list of all required dependencies before adding them all... that right handed panel thing |
| 18:34.55 | ArcanePariah | Yes. I was just not sure of the consequences of a non tree structure to the dependency chain |
| 18:35.14 | Ahli | or maybe it will try to kill you with errors... no one knows |
| 18:35.30 | ArcanePariah | I guess I will be the first to try then. I will report back my findings :D |
| 18:38.51 | Merc | duckies: http://i.imgur.com/5ZPxXGR.png |
| 18:39.12 | Merc | anyone have any idea what my weird graphical glitches are all about btw? |
| 18:39.28 | Merc | dark noise all over |
| 18:41.48 | duckies | this looks like a work of someone who knows what he's doing, superbly looking raven. Though my first thought was "kinda colorful like a parrot, but how can you teamcolor black raven anyway? >.>" |
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| 18:42.12 | Merc | yeah |
| 18:42.30 | Merc | maybe instead of making the long feathers team colored, I should just give him a slight hue |
| 18:43.50 | Merc | and yea, whoever animated and modeled and textured this raven did a good job, wasnt me though :P |
| 18:53.39 | Merc | how's this http://i.imgur.com/AEQlQqs.png |
| 18:53.58 | Merc | good enuff |
| 18:54.08 | duckies | that is stylish |
| 18:54.42 | duckies | makes me want to make a ravenquest rpg map =D |
| 18:54.56 | duckies | too bad not enough quality fantasy assets :< |
| 18:55.24 | Merc | wow is riddled with fantasy assets |
| 18:55.59 | Merc | https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhlfpgdege8xb5c/wow_raven.zip |
| 18:56.26 | Merc | no idea what animations to include there btw, so I just got "stand" and "death" |
| 18:56.47 | Merc | stand = flappy raven |
| 18:59.45 | duckies | does he have attachment points? |
| 18:59.59 | Merc | standard |
| 19:00.18 | Merc | any special ones needed? |
| 19:00.23 | duckies | yea, wow has many of those, but if you load them in you can see that they don't quite blend in with standard sc2 style |
| 19:00.37 | duckies | I think dz needed weapon attachment |
| 19:00.43 | Merc | hang on |
| 19:02.24 | Merc | uh |
| 19:02.31 | Merc | I guess the beak is the weapon |
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| 19:04.15 | duckies | :D |
| 19:04.48 | Merc | actually seems I forgot to add base attach points |
| 19:04.54 | Merc | including them |
| 19:06.10 | Merc | he's got this funky swooping attack animation though, dunno how well that will work with what DZ needs |
| 19:07.45 | duckies | yeah, I saw it, hell probably just use regular stand as attack animation, with bullets and lasers fiering right from the beak |
| 19:08.05 | Merc | yea |
| 19:08.07 | duckies | "DEATH BEAK ATTACK" |
| 19:08.12 | duckies | peeeeeeeeeeew |
| 19:08.19 | Merc | was a gliding fly animation in there that I could throw in though |
| 19:08.21 | duckies | *total carnage* |
| 19:08.26 | Merc | *bwaak* |
| 19:09.00 | duckies | I think it's nice, maybe he can use it as a some sort of victory dance animat |
| 19:10.37 | Merc | well I can update it if he needs |
| 19:10.54 | Merc | back to procrastinating with my own stuff |
| 19:11.40 | duckies | always a good way to spend time :3 |
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| 19:17.33 | mille25 | hi |
| 19:19.02 | UnReached | no Merc i didnt catch it - had a dc :( - could you please repeat it? |
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| 19:33.11 | Caz | *wave* mille25 |
| 19:35.27 | Caz | ArcanePariah - I may have asked a similar question before, but do you know if it's possible to do dmg effects based on some equation in data. |
| 19:35.40 | ArcanePariah | No, in general |
| 19:36.05 | Caz | eh that's a shame |
| 19:36.14 | ArcanePariah | Data can only handle static situations |
| 19:36.23 | ArcanePariah | It can not handle dynamic ones |
| 19:36.31 | Caz | Did i tell u i got the resurrect going? |
| 19:36.39 | ArcanePariah | Excellent :D |
| 19:37.15 | Caz | hero death spawns a generic corpse. casting rez on the corpses searches for the first unit at 0 distance from corpse point |
| 19:37.17 | Caz | and revives |
| 19:37.29 | Caz | and kills the corpse unit |
| 19:38.15 | Caz | i'm a bit annoyed by the slime placed on the terrain by the corpse model tho |
| 19:38.27 | Caz | i wanted the model as it was before terrain goo was applied |
| 19:38.53 | Caz | i'm not sure if that layer can be ignored or not |
| 19:39.08 | ArcanePariah | Interesting solution |
| 19:40.41 | Caz | do u know if the gore placed on terrain can be removed? |
| 19:40.47 | Caz | or if im just stuck with it |
| 19:41.02 | Caz | blood gore woulda been fine |
| 19:41.05 | Caz | but the green is silly |
| 19:41.34 | Caz | removing it or making it red would be desirable |
| 19:41.56 | Caz | the model is DeadVandals_03 |
| 19:48.01 | Caz | or suggestions for a similar generic corpse would be solid. Just don't see this green slime working as a generic death corpse |
| 19:54.07 | Caz | ArcanePariah - ahh it seems ColonistCorpse variations do not have the same slimeyness as DeadVandals |
| 19:54.13 | Caz | should be just waht im lookin for on generic corpse |
| 19:56.13 | A1win | wtf, now my map is constantly crashing to unexpected error |
| 19:57.08 | Caz | damn A1win o.O |
| 19:57.15 | A1win | when quitting |
| 19:57.48 | Caz | aaaaaa it looks like this corpse has green goo too |
| 19:57.52 | Caz | zzzz |
| 19:59.25 | Caz | nm its resolving itself lol |
| 19:59.28 | Caz | so weird |
| 20:00.09 | Ahli | accelerating morphs via a buff is buggy, progress bar is faster, but the morph takes the same time |
| 20:04.28 | Merc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.31 | Merc | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:04.37 | Merc | that will unlock a materal texture parameter further down in the list called Alpha Mask |
| 20:04.40 | Merc | in the pulldown menu that says Opaque you can select between different modes of transparency |
| 20:04.47 | Merc | probably want to set the diffuse map to only use RGB as well, and not RGBA |
| 20:04.50 | Merc | this should be covered in the Art Tools documentation |
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| 20:08.54 | Bounty | peow |
| 20:15.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster sonicnite (~regulate@68-118-163-19.dhcp.unas.nm.charter.com) |
| 20:19.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster unclesatan (18711f87@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.113.31.135) |
| 20:20.12 | Caz | *wave* unclesatan |
| 20:20.23 | unclesatan | hey caz how's it goin |
| 20:20.39 | Caz | enjoying that my medic can resurrect dead allies lol |
| 20:20.50 | Caz | needs pretty visuals added |
| 20:21.32 | unclesatan | nice! |
| 20:21.44 | unclesatan | what kinda map you making |
| 20:22.37 | Caz | the overdone hero battle :3 |
| 20:22.39 | Caz | lol |
| 20:22.49 | unclesatan | i feel it |
| 20:22.54 | unclesatan | i'm doing a hero battle too lol |
| 20:23.03 | Caz | hehe |
| 20:23.10 | unclesatan | although mine's video games vs. anime |
| 20:23.17 | unclesatan | which.. i haven't seen anyone do |
| 20:23.27 | unclesatan | probably cause of the copyright bs |
| 20:23.45 | unclesatan | but blizz said it would be cool for the most part as long as i didn't rip any assets from actual games. |
| 20:23.57 | Caz | nice |
| 20:24.47 | Caz | i was struggling for a while to get a pure data solution |
| 20:24.56 | Caz | in the end i did halfsies |
| 20:25.03 | Caz | resurrect is part data, part trigger |
| 20:25.11 | unclesatan | resurrect must be part data |
| 20:25.23 | unclesatan | i've tried doing full trigger resurrects |
| 20:25.23 | Caz | i didnt use the default revive ability |
| 20:25.26 | unclesatan | it almost doesn't work |
| 20:25.59 | Caz | none of my heroes have the CAbilRevive or associated abilities built into the data |
| 20:26.15 | unclesatan | ahh |
| 20:26.27 | unclesatan | yeah i don't use the hero revive at all |
| 20:26.32 | unclesatan | and i have custom stats so |
| 20:26.52 | Caz | how hard is it to customize the UI ? |
| 20:26.55 | Caz | move things around |
| 20:27.04 | unclesatan | you can get rid of certain things i believe with triggers |
| 20:27.17 | unclesatan | otherwise, you have to edit the UI xml |
| 20:27.33 | Caz | i've seen games move inventory location around, statical invormation, etc etc |
| 20:27.40 | Caz | statistical* |
| 20:27.42 | unclesatan | yeah |
| 20:27.51 | unclesatan | statistical info and inventory are all dialog boxes i believe |
| 20:28.15 | A1win | meh I'll just disable cloak and test more... |
| 20:28.20 | unclesatan | also every time i click import after i open 3ds max, 3ds max crashes |
| 20:28.26 | unclesatan | what the fuck. |
| 20:28.53 | unclesatan | weird, now it works. |
| 20:29.04 | unclesatan | it crashed 3 times trying to simply open up the import window.. |
| 20:29.35 | Caz | weird |
| 20:35.42 | unclesatan | trying to get deadzergling this carrionbird with a weapon attachment |
| 20:40.27 | Caz | ah ya |
| 20:41.29 | unclesatan | does anyone know |
| 20:41.36 | unclesatan | a good plugin for importing m3s |
| 20:41.43 | unclesatan | because this one i found does not import animations at all |
| 20:48.05 | unclesatan | oh. |
| 20:48.17 | unclesatan | weird it imports the animations but they don't show up in the star tools animation floater |
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| 21:08.23 | unclesatan | ok. figured out this import shit |
| 21:08.35 | unclesatan | now i need to remember where deadzergling wanted the weapon attachment |
| 21:08.36 | unclesatan | lol |
| 21:09.48 | Caz | jademusSreg in here today? |
| 21:10.22 | Caz | wanted to tell em what i used for unitfilters lol |
| 21:11.44 | unclesatan | lol |
| 21:11.47 | unclesatan | anything that uses unitfilters |
| 21:11.51 | unclesatan | i always fk'ed up |
| 21:12.26 | unclesatan | i've never used weapon attachments |
| 21:12.31 | sonicnite | wheres sixen? |
| 21:12.42 | unclesatan | any chance anyone has any idea about attaching a weapon through data? |
| 21:12.56 | unclesatan | sixen doesn't typically visit the IRC channel from what i've seen |
| 21:12.57 | unclesatan | unless he does it on an alternate name |
| 21:15.32 | Vindicator | he used to be in here 24/7 |
| 21:17.06 | Caz | unclesatan - http://pastebin.com/niVUnxUk , the majority of my resurrection. |
| 21:17.48 | unclesatan | very nice |
| 21:17.59 | unclesatan | for some reason the UnitRevive never worked for me |
| 21:18.38 | Caz | did u use death time ? |
| 21:18.47 | Caz | in data |
| 21:19.01 | unclesatan | do you have to increase that? |
| 21:19.19 | Caz | Death Time: 0 means there is 0 seconds after death that the unit remains in the game |
| 21:19.23 | Caz | its memory and shit gets scrapped |
| 21:19.30 | Caz | and ur eventunit ref points to scramble data |
| 21:19.38 | unclesatan | oh. |
| 21:19.41 | unclesatan | that would explain a few things. |
| 21:19.55 | Caz | You can use a positive value (obviously) |
| 21:19.59 | Caz | i found in a post though |
| 21:20.04 | Caz | that u can use -1 for it to exist forever |
| 21:20.07 | Caz | which is what i do |
| 21:20.15 | Caz | since all heroes will be revived over and over |
| 21:20.20 | Caz | no reason to chance their removal |
| 21:20.48 | Caz | so in my case, for any hero |
| 21:20.53 | Caz | Death Time: -1 |
| 21:21.23 | Caz | then the problem was corpses |
| 21:21.24 | Caz | lol |
| 21:21.37 | unclesatan | ohh |
| 21:21.52 | unclesatan | yeah i had that set to 0 because i didn't want corpses everywhere |
| 21:21.57 | unclesatan | maybe what i'll do is |
| 21:22.04 | Caz | ( - 1 ) doesnt leave corpse |
| 21:22.10 | unclesatan | oh |
| 21:22.12 | Caz | i spawn a generic corpse whenever a hero dies |
| 21:22.20 | unclesatan | i see. |
| 21:22.25 | Caz | the revive can only target "Generic Corpse" |
| 21:22.35 | Caz | built into the data ability validation |
| 21:22.48 | Caz | mine is i mean |
| 21:23.00 | Caz | putting that validation in triggers would be too late |
| 21:23.10 | Caz | cuz it would allow me to cast on something thats not a corpse |
| 21:23.20 | Caz | so i had to do validation on the root effect of the ability in data |
| 21:30.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster nice__username (62701b07@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.112.27.7) |
| 21:36.01 | unclesatan | ahhh. good fix there |
| 21:36.12 | unclesatan | sorry offtopic, mario kart 8 looks so beautiful |
| 21:36.17 | Caz | Lolz |
| 21:36.26 | unclesatan | i just found myself watching vids of it |
| 21:36.39 | nice__username | Hi everyone :) |
| 21:36.47 | Caz | hi n_u |
| 21:36.49 | unclesatan | hi there |
| 21:36.53 | nice__username | I have a new question today |
| 21:37.00 | Caz | dont we all |
| 21:37.01 | Caz | ;] |
| 21:37.05 | nice__username | LOL. |
| 21:37.10 | unclesatan | xD |
| 21:37.15 | nice__username | I found something a bit more challenging to do unfortunately |
| 21:37.28 | nice__username | I want a Spore Crawler to have the void ray weapon :/ |
| 21:37.30 | Caz | hopefully its not beams again |
| 21:37.31 | nice__username | Or some kind of... beam. |
| 21:37.33 | Caz | oh god |
| 21:37.35 | Caz | its beams again ! |
| 21:37.38 | nice__username | :) |
| 21:37.45 | unclesatan | lol |
| 21:37.56 | nice__username | But I ended up making my Void Ray yesterday look perfect =) |
| 21:37.58 | unclesatan | beams are not my cup of tea |
| 21:38.04 | nice__username | Yeah. |
| 21:38.05 | unclesatan | that's for sure |
| 21:38.12 | nice__username | I just want to copy/paste the void ray weapon over basically. |
| 21:38.13 | Caz | u cant just apply the void weapon to it? |
| 21:38.14 | nice__username | But... |
| 21:38.18 | nice__username | .I don't know how. |
| 21:38.19 | unclesatan | i managed to make 1 beam in my 1.5 year of map making on sc2 |
| 21:38.24 | nice__username | :O |
| 21:38.25 | unclesatan | and it was a simple lightning bolt |
| 21:38.38 | nice__username | 1.5yrs ._. |
| 21:38.40 | unclesatan | well |
| 21:38.40 | nice__username | I'm like. |
| 21:38.41 | Caz | n_u what happens when u give it the weapon ? |
| 21:38.42 | nice__username | A month in. |
| 21:38.49 | unclesatan | caz that |
| 21:38.50 | nice__username | How do you 'give' weapons |
| 21:38.53 | nice__username | Let me open the editor :) |
| 21:39.02 | unclesatan | you have to go to the unit you want |
| 21:39.20 | Caz | unclesatan - what ? |
| 21:39.29 | unclesatan | i meant to say more with that |
| 21:39.41 | unclesatan | "that is the question" is what i meant to finish that with |
| 21:39.48 | unclesatan | on your unit |
| 21:39.53 | unclesatan | Basic(Combat) - Weapon |
| 21:40.00 | Caz | remove the spore's current weapon |
| 21:40.03 | unclesatan | find the void ray weapon you want and try it |
| 21:40.10 | Caz | ^ - yep |
| 21:40.21 | nice__username | Are you serious? |
| 21:40.23 | nice__username | It's that easy? |
| 21:40.25 | Caz | yes? |
| 21:40.27 | nice__username | very cool thx :) 1s brb |
| 21:40.28 | Caz | lol |
| 21:40.49 | Caz | data is evil when ur making something |
| 21:40.55 | Caz | but its beautiful when u can reuse it |
| 21:41.08 | nice__username | Very true |
| 21:41.24 | nice__username | All the Blizzard 'presets' or whatever... |
| 21:41.27 | nice__username | Are very useful. |
| 21:42.00 | nice__username | omfg. |
| 21:42.04 | nice__username | I did I not find this last ngiht LOL |
| 21:42.09 | Caz | :3 |
| 21:42.11 | Caz | gratz |
| 21:42.12 | nice__username | How did * |
| 21:42.29 | Caz | going out to the park |
| 21:42.33 | Caz | see you guys in a couple hours |
| 21:42.35 | unclesatan | it should be that easy |
| 21:42.36 | nice__username | Enjoy! |
| 21:42.39 | nice__username | It's beautiful outside today. |
| 21:42.45 | unclesatan | later caz |
| 21:42.50 | Caz | unclesatan - if u got skype u should let me show u the resurrect later :P |
| 21:43.02 | unclesatan | yeah for sure |
| 21:43.09 | nice__username | Oh my goodness if this works I am going to besohappy |
| 21:43.11 | unclesatan | my skype naem is the same except with a . at the end of it |
| 21:43.12 | nice__username | testing. |
| 21:44.01 | Caz_Afk | the colorful profile pic with shiney eyeballs? |
| 21:44.18 | Caz_Afk | ^ - unclesatan |
| 21:44.40 | unclesatan | yes |
| 21:44.41 | unclesatan | lol |
| 21:44.43 | nice__username | OMFG |
| 21:44.45 | nice__username | IT WORKS |
| 21:44.47 | nice__username | THIS IS SO FUNNY. |
| 21:44.48 | unclesatan | yay! |
| 21:44.57 | nice__username | I'm gonna record a .gif for you |
| 21:44.59 | nice__username | You have to see it |
| 21:45.08 | unclesatan | i was just gonna ask you to |
| 21:45.25 | nice__username | OMFG |
| 21:45.27 | nice__username | ITS SO FUNNY |
| 21:45.27 | nice__username | LOL |
| 21:45.29 | nice__username | ok brb |
| 21:45.49 | unclesatan | oh hey, caz likes anime |
| 21:46.02 | nice__username | Hey. |
| 21:46.04 | unclesatan | cool beans i'll show you some of my anime models sometime |
| 21:46.04 | Caz_Afk | i've seen thousands of episodes :P |
| 21:46.10 | nice__username | Can you change the color of weapons or something :\ |
| 21:46.13 | Caz_Afk | rly gone this time lol ~ afk |
| 21:46.17 | unclesatan | lol kk |
| 21:46.19 | unclesatan | and umm |
| 21:46.23 | nice__username | I want the big blur void ray lazer to be.. not blue |
| 21:46.25 | unclesatan | what color are you needing to change it to |
| 21:46.27 | nice__username | If thats possible. |
| 21:46.30 | unclesatan | hmm |
| 21:46.36 | unclesatan | you'll need to use a different beam model for it |
| 21:46.40 | nice__username | Oh forget it then :) |
| 21:46.43 | nice__username | It's nbd |
| 21:46.47 | unclesatan | try changing it to like the medic beam or somethin |
| 21:46.51 | nice__username | LOL |
| 21:46.53 | unclesatan | although that could fuck everything up |
| 21:46.58 | nice__username | Oh the possibilities |
| 21:46.59 | unclesatan | like i said beams are not my shit |
| 21:47.02 | nice__username | Yeah. |
| 21:47.02 | unclesatan | lol |
| 21:47.04 | nice__username | Thank you tho |
| 21:47.08 | nice__username | ok gonna rly record 1s |
| 21:47.13 | unclesatan | kk |
| 21:55.58 | nice__username | http://gfycat.com/LoneScholarlyDachshund |
| 21:56.00 | nice__username | Here it is. |
| 21:56.37 | nice__username | Doesn't that look awesome. |
| 21:59.26 | unclesatan | lol those poor mutas |
| 22:00.02 | unclesatan | i'm curious |
| 22:00.05 | unclesatan | how do you record your gifs? |
| 22:00.16 | nice__username | Have you ever streamed video on say, Twitch.tv |
| 22:00.30 | unclesatan | yes |
| 22:00.38 | nice__username | Do you use xSplit or OBS |
| 22:00.44 | unclesatan | xsplit |
| 22:00.48 | unclesatan | can you use that for gif images? |
| 22:00.56 | nice__username | Well. |
| 22:01.07 | nice__username | I'm not sure about xSplit but I'm sure there's a way to make a local recording |
| 22:01.12 | nice__username | instead of a streamed one. |
| 22:01.24 | nice__username | Record the video and save it to HDD, open in Photoshop. |
| 22:01.51 | unclesatan | ah |
| 22:01.53 | unclesatan | that simple huh |
| 22:01.56 | nice__username | Crop in photoshop -> save... upload to gfycat without going over 15sec of video (website limit) |
| 22:02.08 | nice__username | And that's it! |
| 22:02.32 | unclesatan | nice, well that's good to know |
| 22:02.39 | unclesatan | i've tried multiple gif recorders and they all suck |
| 22:03.09 | nice__username | Yeah man. |
| 22:03.17 | nice__username | Photoshop gives a ton of flexibility when saving to .gif |
| 22:03.28 | nice__username | MAke sure you do File -> Save for Web and not File -> Save as |
| 22:03.43 | unclesatan | nice, alright |
| 22:03.51 | nice__username | Err, but that's when you actually save a .gif file |
| 22:04.00 | nice__username | When I upload those big ones to gfycat |
| 22:04.07 | nice__username | That's actually an .mp4 I'm uploading |
| 22:04.10 | nice__username | And the website does the rest. |
| 22:04.35 | nice__username | And the .mp4 is made in Photoshop with File -> Export -> Render Video |
| 22:04.38 | nice__username | Hope tha makes sense :) |
| 22:04.44 | unclesatan | gotcha |
| 22:04.58 | unclesatan | gonna try this |
| 22:05.44 | nice__username | Make sure to set your bitrate really high for local recordings |
| 22:05.50 | nice__username | 10+ |
| 22:05.52 | nice__username | 10k+ * |
| 22:06.30 | nice__username | Do you know anything about giving weapons Splash damage. |
| 22:06.31 | nice__username | Lol |
| 22:06.45 | unclesatan | it has to do with behaviors |
| 22:06.56 | nice__username | Oh really..? |
| 22:06.59 | unclesatan | and using the "search" in data |
| 22:07.07 | unclesatan | wait, not behaviors |
| 22:07.08 | nice__username | yeah I knew it was the "search" thing |
| 22:07.08 | unclesatan | i'm wrong there |
| 22:07.12 | nice__username | I think that's effectrs though |
| 22:07.14 | unclesatan | search though. |
| 22:07.18 | unclesatan | search is an effect yes |
| 22:07.24 | nice__username | kk |
| 22:07.25 | unclesatan | sorry i haven't touched data in like 5 months i've been making models Xd |
| 22:07.27 | unclesatan | i'm a little rusty there |
| 22:07.32 | nice__username | Ah really that's awesome |
| 22:07.37 | nice__username | 3d modeling is a whole other world |
| 22:07.44 | nice__username | That's cool tho I appreciate all your help :) |
| 22:08.00 | unclesatan | no problem i try to be here to help alot |
| 22:08.07 | unclesatan | most of my knowledge is galaxyscript and model making |
| 22:08.11 | nice__username | I'm sure a lot of people really appreciate that. |
| 22:08.14 | unclesatan | triggering and such |
| 22:08.16 | nice__username | Yeah. |
| 22:08.28 | unclesatan | haha well i've had alot of help so i like to give back |
| 22:08.33 | nice__username | :) |
| 22:10.10 | unclesatan | hmm |
| 22:10.19 | unclesatan | it appears xsplit can only make .flv for local recordings |
| 22:10.21 | unclesatan | i don't want to buy it lol |
| 22:10.26 | nice__username | That's annoying. |
| 22:10.35 | unclesatan | yeah. |
| 22:10.40 | nice__username | You can use Handbrake to convert the .flv to mp4 |
| 22:10.49 | nice__username | Which I find myself doing often when I rip Twitch VODs |
| 22:10.53 | nice__username | But honestly I recommend |
| 22:11.00 | nice__username | You install OBS obsproject.org |
| 22:11.14 | nice__username | It's open source |
| 22:11.23 | nice__username | xSplit competitor, free |
| 22:11.27 | nice__username | And performs just as well. |
| 22:11.39 | nice__username | Also umm, it'll save to mp4 |
| 22:11.42 | nice__username | :) |
| 22:11.42 | unclesatan | aight |
| 22:11.49 | unclesatan | i'll definitely check it out |
| 22:11.50 | nice__username | And then you should uninstall xSplit ;b |
| 22:11.53 | unclesatan | gonna grab it now |
| 22:12.02 | nice__username | You're doing yourself a favor mate. |
| 22:12.23 | pirate | how do I make the SetRotation actor message work? |
| 22:12.37 | nice__username | Hi, pirate, how are you doing today. |
| 22:12.43 | pirate | ahoy |
| 22:12.51 | nice__username | I wish I had a clue what actor messages are. |
| 22:12.53 | nice__username | I'm fairly new. |
| 22:13.17 | unclesatan | let me see pirate |
| 22:13.21 | unclesatan | i've used a few actor messages |
| 22:13.39 | unclesatan | you sending it through galaxyscript? |
| 22:13.41 | pirate | I've found the values I want to rotate using triggers (0, -1.0, -0.6, 0, 0, 1.0) but copying that into the SetRotation actor event isn't correct |
| 22:14.13 | pirate | I guess I could just use script |
| 22:14.25 | unclesatan | might be easier but |
| 22:14.31 | unclesatan | harder ont he system if you use it alot |
| 22:14.43 | pirate | just used once in a cinematic :p |
| 22:15.04 | unclesatan | oh, well if you have it figured in triggers then you should try it |
| 22:15.30 | pirate | it works as intended just fine in triggers, I just like to use data whenever I can |
| 22:15.50 | pirate | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:17.27 | unclesatan | xD |
| 22:17.30 | nice__username | I think I've found out how to give a weapon some splash damage :) |
| 22:17.35 | unclesatan | data is aggrivating to me |
| 22:17.38 | nice__username | I just added the EMP (search) effect. |
| 22:17.42 | nice__username | Let me test it though :\ |
| 22:17.56 | pirate | data is so fresh and so clean |
| 22:18.19 | unclesatan | it's like |
| 22:18.20 | unclesatan | an outkast song |
| 22:18.28 | unclesatan | i get you |
| 22:18.30 | nice__username | Aww,,,, |
| 22:18.34 | nice__username | Now it doesn't shoot anything D= |
| 22:19.00 | unclesatan | investigate how the siege tank does it |
| 22:19.16 | nice__username | Ahhh. |
| 22:19.19 | nice__username | Fantastic idea. |
| 22:19.20 | nice__username | thx |
| 22:20.13 | nice__username | Oh, lol |
| 22:20.23 | nice__username | I think you can just add the (search) thing to the same effect where it does damage. |
| 22:22.09 | unclesatan | nice, you figure it out then? |
| 22:22.27 | nice__username | I believe so testing right now :D |
| 22:27.47 | nice__username | So no its not quite there |
| 22:27.48 | nice__username | Close ._. |
| 22:28.12 | unclesatan | hmm |
| 22:28.19 | unclesatan | maybe you need to edit a few parameters |
| 22:29.29 | unclesatan | testing this gif maker dealie |
| 22:29.51 | unclesatan | photoshop is not wanting to save |
| 22:31.13 | nice__username | Hmm :( |
| 22:31.16 | nice__username | I can't get it to work D: |
| 22:31.24 | nice__username | Even with a huge radius like..six |
| 22:34.59 | nice__username | Oh you know what... |
| 22:35.01 | nice__username | I think it is working |
| 22:35.05 | nice__username | But it's only doing 1 damage LOL |
| 22:35.29 | nice__username | Oh I know what i'm doing wrong |
| 22:35.33 | nice__username | Forgot to add a parameter |
| 22:35.34 | nice__username | ^^; |
| 22:36.30 | nice__username | ahh it's perfect now :D |
| 22:39.03 | unclesatan | nice!! |
| 22:39.10 | unclesatan | lol 1 damage |
| 22:40.47 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/Qn1wfl3.gif |
| 22:40.47 | unclesatan | hey |
| 22:40.49 | unclesatan | the gif worked |
| 22:41.02 | nice__username | :) |
| 22:41.04 | nice__username | Awesome. |
| 22:41.12 | nice__username | Yeah it's really handy for sharing video to simply put a .gif on imgur |
| 22:41.18 | nice__username | You click it, it loads |
| 22:41.29 | nice__username | easy enough |
| 22:41.29 | unclesatan | yeah i'm loving imgur |
| 22:41.41 | nice__username | I have put some really dumb things on imgur |
| 22:41.43 | nice__username | & reddit |
| 22:41.48 | nice__username | Only for it to get ~30,000 views |
| 22:42.10 | nice__username | such as... http://i.imgur.com/gOCPfps.gif |
| 22:42.20 | nice__username | Take the .gif out of the URL and you can see the view count. |
| 22:42.50 | unclesatan | does imgur have a limit to how long the gif is? |
| 22:42.57 | nice__username | 5mb for free accounts. |
| 22:42.59 | nice__username | filesize limit |
| 22:43.11 | nice__username | A paid acc is only 10mb ;\ |
| 22:43.16 | unclesatan | 30000 views the hell? |
| 22:43.37 | nice__username | Wel... reddit. |
| 22:43.40 | nice__username | Well* |
| 22:44.36 | unclesatan | ah] |
| 22:44.39 | unclesatan | sc2 reddit? |
| 22:44.43 | nice__username | Mhm |
| 22:45.10 | nice__username | I'm making a YT video for them |
| 22:45.12 | unclesatan | for some reason |
| 22:45.18 | unclesatan | the gif i linked ended early |
| 22:45.21 | unclesatan | maybe i edited it wrong |
| 22:45.25 | nice__username | Yeah? |
| 22:46.05 | unclesatan | hmm nope |
| 22:46.08 | unclesatan | it's only showing 15 secs of it |
| 22:46.19 | nice__username | o_O |
| 22:47.02 | A1win | I'm a reddit noob, what should I do if I want to post info about my arcade map there? |
| 22:47.16 | A1win | do people even do that? |
| 22:47.58 | nice__username | Well. |
| 22:48.04 | nice__username | I think I saw your post actually. |
| 22:48.09 | nice__username | The hover map? |
| 22:48.24 | nice__username | Nevermind, that wasn't you. |
| 22:48.24 | A1win | no, that's bounty's |
| 22:48.30 | A1win | I haven't posted anything on reddit |
| 22:48.40 | nice__username | The key to success on reddit |
| 22:49.03 | nice__username | Is to make something ... short |
| 22:49.13 | nice__username | What I mean is |
| 22:49.19 | nice__username | If you write a big paragraph |
| 22:49.23 | nice__username | No one will read it. |
| 22:49.25 | A1win | mmm |
| 22:49.31 | A1win | video probably best? |
| 22:49.32 | nice__username | The average user has an attention span of like 10 seconds |
| 22:49.37 | nice__username | Put a funny picture |
| 22:49.40 | nice__username | A funny video |
| 22:49.40 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zandose (Zandose@24-246-78-228.cable.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:49.47 | Zandose | long time no see all |
| 22:49.59 | nice__username | For a custom map I recommend a video |
| 22:50.03 | nice__username | The most |
| 22:50.07 | A1win | and where would I post it? |
| 22:50.21 | nice__username | On top of that if reddit likes your video, you can make a few dollars off of YouTube (if you're partnered) :) |
| 22:50.28 | nice__username | Post it to /r/starcraft |
| 22:50.52 | unclesatan | hey zand |
| 22:50.59 | unclesatan | for real haven't seen you around here for a good while |
| 22:51.23 | A1win | can I embed video/pictures etc. into a text post or does it have to be a link? |
| 22:51.34 | Zandose | been playing a lot of diablo 3 ros |
| 22:51.39 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/sshC1l0.gif |
| 22:51.45 | unclesatan | yeah imgur only uploads 10 seconds of your gif |
| 22:51.55 | unclesatan | how is the new xpac? |
| 22:52.07 | nice__username | Oh, wow, I never knew. |
| 22:52.27 | Zandose | i really just came on because i had a idea which involoves some science i dont know |
| 22:52.48 | nice__username | Alwin you can't embed things into a reddit post per se, but many users are running a browser extension that embeds links into the post for them,. |
| 22:52.56 | nice__username | You can only put a link. |
| 22:53.06 | unclesatan | http://gfycat.com/PotableFatherlyArizonaalligatorlizard |
| 22:53.13 | unclesatan | gfycat uploads 15 secs of it |
| 22:53.14 | unclesatan | xD |
| 22:53.16 | nice__username | I would have your reddit post point to the video and leave your text in the comments |
| 22:53.45 | nice__username | Yeah. |
| 22:53.47 | A1win | oh that hover isn't even bounty's map, thought you just used hover as description |
| 22:53.57 | nice__username | gfycat at least tells you about the 15sec limit. |
| 22:54.03 | nice__username | Yeah sorry Alwin idk why I thought that ^^ |
| 22:54.44 | A1win | I suck at making trailer videos though, haven't done it before ;[ |
| 22:54.58 | A1win | and don't have music to use for it, would have to search for something with open license |
| 22:54.59 | nice__username | Best way to get better is practice :) |
| 22:55.07 | nice__username | I didn't know how to edit video a few months ago |
| 22:55.16 | A1win | well I know how to edit a video |
| 22:55.30 | nice__username | Now i have a partnered YT channel with ~90k views :D |
| 22:55.42 | nice__username | Download Adobe Premiere. |
| 22:56.14 | nice__username | If you can figure out the map editor... |
| 22:56.22 | nice__username | Premiere will be easy :) |
| 22:57.25 | A1win | it's not the editing that's difficult, just need to figure out what to actually put into the video and how to fit in some random music etc |
| 22:57.30 | nice__username | I hear you. |
| 22:57.58 | nice__username | Well to be honest |
| 22:58.04 | nice__username | There is a real lack of original content for SCII right now |
| 22:58.23 | nice__username | Anything you post, at least a few people are going to like it |
| 22:58.37 | A1win | mmm |
| 22:58.53 | *** join/#sc2mapster yttrium (~herolief@c-24-0-67-104.hsd1.nj.comcast.net) |
| 22:58.56 | A1win | I already know people like my map :D just need to get more people to play it so that it actually gets visibility on the Arcade |
| 22:59.02 | nice__username | Ugh, dude. |
| 22:59.08 | nice__username | Blizzard failed so miserably with SCII arcade |
| 22:59.13 | A1win | yeah |
| 22:59.21 | nice__username | It's in a much better spot now |
| 22:59.26 | nice__username | But it could have been so much more |
| 22:59.26 | A1win | it's designed for like a million users and there's only like hundreds |
| 22:59.33 | nice__username | Seriously .__. |
| 23:00.18 | unclesatan | they should just convert it to how it was in wc3 |
| 23:00.23 | unclesatan | because it is not working how it is now |
| 23:00.51 | nice__username | Well I'm looking forward to your video Alwin :) |
| 23:00.57 | nice__username | Anything to support map makers |
| 23:00.59 | nice__username | We need more of them :\ |
| 23:02.18 | unclesatan | yeah for sure. |
| 23:02.22 | Zandose | map making is so hard |
| 23:02.22 | unclesatan | few and far between anymore |
| 23:02.51 | unclesatan | i would agree |
| 23:03.01 | unclesatan | i've been working on mine for about a year now |
| 23:03.08 | Zandose | i can never get my triggers to work |
| 23:03.10 | unclesatan | had a few fail projects before i settled on one |
| 23:03.32 | unclesatan | for me, i always have problems putting together units in data and almost anything dealing with actors is just... ugh. |
| 23:03.36 | unclesatan | not streamlined, to say the least |
| 23:04.03 | nice__username | Haha. |
| 23:04.16 | nice__username | I've really only played with basic, basic stuff like movement speed, range or weapons |
| 23:04.21 | nice__username | But it's so cool. |
| 23:04.33 | unclesatan | dont' get me wrong you can do nearly anything with the editor |
| 23:04.35 | unclesatan | but |
| 23:04.41 | unclesatan | it can definitely be a pain in the ass more often than not |
| 23:04.52 | nice__username | Yeah. |
| 23:05.05 | nice__username | Let me show you my YT video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7nNSeI4Cw4 |
| 23:05.08 | nice__username | Basically |
| 23:05.12 | nice__username | I'm making another one of theese. |
| 23:07.05 | Zandose | i cant even seem to get basic wsad movement working |
| 23:07.31 | unclesatan | lol that's hilarious n |
| 23:07.43 | unclesatan | and wsad movement is an oddity, there's a few people who have done it well but |
| 23:07.43 | nice__username | :)hxt |
| 23:07.44 | unclesatan | it takes alot of work |
| 23:08.00 | Zandose | basic wsad is easy |
| 23:08.07 | Zandose | my code is too complex |
| 23:08.26 | Zandose | cant find the bug |
| 23:08.37 | unclesatan | is why i use galaxyscript |
| 23:08.41 | unclesatan | alot easier to find bugs |
| 23:08.45 | unclesatan | because it gives you the exact line |
| 23:08.46 | Zandose | how so? |
| 23:08.53 | unclesatan | in the error messages |
| 23:09.01 | Zandose | no error messages |
| 23:09.06 | unclesatan | no errors? |
| 23:09.08 | unclesatan | hm |
| 23:09.21 | unclesatan | well those are never fun bugs |
| 23:09.27 | Zandose | just the unexpected happening |
| 23:09.51 | Zandose | keyboard is fine i tihnk |
| 23:10.51 | Zandose | movement looks fine |
| 23:11.47 | Zandose | unit moves way way too fast in a random direction |
| 23:16.11 | nice__username | Can you add breakpoints in Galaxy |
| 23:17.06 | Zandose | think i solved the wsad problem |
| 23:17.11 | Zandose | not for the hard code |
| 23:18.24 | Zandose | now* |
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| 23:45.14 | Caz_Afk | wasd movement is too laggy when published to bnet |
| 23:46.18 | Caz | wasd lag ended my aspirations of a frogger remake |
| 23:47.00 | Bounty | You're using a bad system then Caz |
| 23:47.13 | Caz | what's urs ? |
| 23:47.21 | Caz | show me the way |
| 23:47.28 | Caz | *bows and chants* |
| 23:47.50 | Caz | Bounty - u can see the same lag in DeadZergling's game |
| 23:48.05 | Bounty | threaded loops for each player that detects booleans that are set via keypress and each player unit is a pre placed unit set to a variable |
| 23:48.10 | Bounty | yeah hes doing it wrong |
| 23:48.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:49.34 | Caz | how do u move the unit? |
| 23:49.50 | Bounty | can either use issue order or move unit instantly with blend |
| 23:50.00 | Caz | i issued order off keypress |
| 23:50.03 | Caz | was slow as shit |
| 23:50.06 | Bounty | did you see the trailer for my game yet? |
| 23:50.10 | Caz | no |
| 23:50.14 | Caz | sad im not in it |
| 23:50.23 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKAHvSkCEHE |
| 23:50.33 | Bounty | Now watch that and tell me if you think lag is ruining the fun |
| 23:50.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:52.17 | Caz | hehe slick |
| 23:52.34 | Caz | just telling u thats what i did |
| 23:52.43 | Caz | event keypress issue order |
| 23:53.42 | Bounty | yeah thats not how you do it |
| 23:53.58 | Bounty | the keypress trigger sets boolean variables to true or false |
| 23:54.03 | Bounty | and you have a loop that picks them up |
| 23:54.07 | Bounty | and dishes out the orders |
| 23:54.25 | Bounty | You want the keypress trigger to be as SHORT as possible |
| 23:54.27 | Caz | some loop thats running all the tiem ? |
| 23:54.31 | Caz | like an alternate thread ? |
| 23:54.34 | Bounty | yes |
| 23:54.37 | Caz | i didnt know u could do that |
| 23:54.56 | Bounty | each trigger is its own thread |
| 23:54.59 | Caz | ah |
| 23:55.01 | Caz | so like |
| 23:55.11 | Bounty | so you want as little as possible in the keypress triggers |
| 23:55.14 | Caz | even an infinte loop in a map init trigger |
| 23:55.22 | Caz | would do the trick |
| 23:55.30 | Bounty | yeah that would be fine |
| 23:55.40 | Caz | interesting |
| 23:55.58 | Caz | I'll certainly dig out the old shitty frogger map and give it a go sometime :3 |
| 23:56.05 | Caz | much thanks for the advice ! |
| 23:56.18 | Bounty | np |
| 23:56.38 | Bounty | you also want to optimize the framerate |
| 23:56.48 | Bounty | that plays a big part in delay as well |
| 23:57.11 | Caz | how is that done? |
| 23:57.14 | Caz | never even heard of it lol |
