| 00:05.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster unclesatan (18711546@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.113.21.70) |
| 00:06.53 | Repo | New asset: All Doodads - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/all-doodads/ |
| 00:15.45 | DeadZergling | not bad, Sixen fixed my front page project within minutes of logging into sc2mapster |
| 00:34.56 | unclesatan | sixen is on top of shit |
| 00:35.00 | unclesatan | that's for sure |
| 00:35.22 | Bounty | Well there is not exactly that much to do |
| 00:35.26 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:35.44 | Bounty | Not anymore at least |
| 00:46.55 | unclesatan | not for the last year or two |
| 00:46.57 | unclesatan | lol. |
| 01:03.08 | DeadZergling | heh, been throwing together few new levels for smash lately, been going pretty well |
| 01:03.27 | DeadZergling | So far I have Turret's Syndrome, Bad Day to Play Outside, and The Cows Came Home |
| 01:06.34 | DeadZergling | hopefully I don't get anyone whining about them being non-canon, lol |
| 01:06.48 | unclesatan | hahaha |
| 01:06.57 | unclesatan | should be fine from my perspective |
| 01:06.58 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/6hU7NuC.png |
| 01:07.04 | unclesatan | master chief.. |
| 01:08.35 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, is master chief a girl? |
| 01:08.52 | DeadZergling | is no man-hood area in that suit |
| 01:09.23 | unclesatan | if you look at the first master chief suit there's barely any manhood area in that suit either |
| 01:09.28 | unclesatan | but i gave the base mesh a huge package |
| 01:09.38 | unclesatan | like |
| 01:09.41 | unclesatan | half the size of his head |
| 01:10.39 | DeadZergling | acceptable, but could still go for his man area looking wider |
| 01:10.52 | DeadZergling | the bikini look on master chief, just isn't right |
| 01:11.08 | unclesatan | lol |
| 01:11.11 | unclesatan | he has a bikini |
| 01:11.22 | unclesatan | http://halo.bungie.net/images/games/Halo/gallery/renders/stills/still_01.jpg |
| 01:11.27 | unclesatan | look he even has a venus mound in this pic |
| 01:11.37 | DeadZergling | yes, well make that wider or make it dark so it doesn't stand out like that, lol |
| 01:12.02 | DeadZergling | the panel in that picture is wider than yours, by quite a lot |
| 01:12.34 | DeadZergling | yours depicts master chief with camel toe |
| 01:12.41 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/YgmwgRg.png |
| 01:13.17 | DeadZergling | better, just about 20-30 % wider and I think you nailed it |
| 01:13.41 | DeadZergling | not that I have a problem with you feminizing master chief |
| 01:13.47 | DeadZergling | i much prefer samus or doom guy |
| 01:14.07 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/rky9nKP.png |
| 01:14.20 | unclesatan | i've got samus too |
| 01:14.24 | DeadZergling | there we go, now we are talking |
| 01:14.31 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/7mKVUzt.png |
| 01:14.52 | unclesatan | k cool, this is why i post these things here |
| 01:15.03 | unclesatan | i know ppl won't hold back |
| 01:15.04 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, that boob holder... |
| 01:15.06 | unclesatan | if i post this shit on facebook |
| 01:15.12 | DeadZergling | is it that weirdly shaped in the game? |
| 01:15.21 | unclesatan | yeah. |
| 01:15.42 | unclesatan | http://levelsave.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Samus-Aran.jpg |
| 01:15.43 | DeadZergling | maybe it looks much better with coloring, but sheesh |
| 01:15.47 | unclesatan | hers is a little more square |
| 01:16.20 | DeadZergling | I see, I dunno |
| 01:16.25 | unclesatan | but samus was made like 5 months ago |
| 01:16.30 | DeadZergling | while I can appreciate you trying to stick to what you did |
| 01:16.33 | unclesatan | i'm sure i'll revisit |
| 01:16.46 | DeadZergling | maybe it is time to give samus an upgrade |
| 01:16.48 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 01:16.51 | unclesatan | lol |
| 01:17.05 | DeadZergling | like not, batman and robin batgirl nipples upgrade |
| 01:17.21 | DeadZergling | but maybe a masculine looking chest build, but poofed out more |
| 01:18.27 | DeadZergling | granted, samus being modest is hardly canon |
| 01:18.31 | DeadZergling | not if you played the first one, lol |
| 01:18.53 | DeadZergling | some of the best boob pixels NES 8 bit had |
| 01:19.05 | unclesatan | haha for real |
| 01:19.12 | unclesatan | i used metroid prime and smash bros melee for reference |
| 01:19.25 | unclesatan | i'm looking at the model again |
| 01:19.32 | unclesatan | and the actual model i have has more detail and i did more to it |
| 01:19.41 | unclesatan | i just mussed with the chest piece a bit |
| 01:19.51 | DeadZergling | the rest looks really good actually |
| 01:19.59 | DeadZergling | the chest is just so distracting in a bad way |
| 01:20.06 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/eNoV0qh.png |
| 01:20.32 | DeadZergling | better |
| 01:20.51 | DeadZergling | maybe if you made the brighter orange part about 20-30 % bigger |
| 01:21.12 | unclesatan | ok, gonna see how that looks |
| 01:21.25 | DeadZergling | make it go bigger downwards |
| 01:21.42 | DeadZergling | (no idea if that makes sense, lol) |
| 01:23.22 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/RLJL9Gd.png |
| 01:23.28 | unclesatan | i think i kinda made some sense of it |
| 01:23.56 | DeadZergling | that size is actually pretty good |
| 01:24.08 | DeadZergling | I'd want to see it dragged down more though |
| 01:24.13 | unclesatan | i widened it, put her shoulders wider and dragged it downwards |
| 01:24.25 | DeadZergling | samus doesn't strike me as the kind of girl who wears push up armor |
| 01:24.30 | DeadZergling | she'd want to be comfortable, lol |
| 01:24.55 | unclesatan | http://levelsave.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/08/Samus-Aran.jpg to me it seems like her boobs are up in her neck in this pic |
| 01:25.00 | unclesatan | but that makes sense |
| 01:25.20 | DeadZergling | well we are gonna do samus a favor here |
| 01:25.23 | DeadZergling | and let her boobs relax |
| 01:25.26 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 01:25.47 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/PdNfqgk.png |
| 01:25.51 | unclesatan | ok, here |
| 01:25.55 | unclesatan | i think that looks better |
| 01:26.14 | DeadZergling | it does, much better |
| 01:26.42 | unclesatan | woot |
| 01:26.46 | DeadZergling | she appears like she could be a real woman, lol |
| 01:27.01 | unclesatan | this is precisely why i haven't taken all these models to sc2 yet |
| 01:27.03 | unclesatan | they all need work |
| 01:27.25 | unclesatan | you ever watch full metal alchemist at all? |
| 01:27.28 | unclesatan | this one has been bothering me alot |
| 01:27.31 | DeadZergling | seen both |
| 01:27.42 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/KfzaPks.png |
| 01:27.43 | DeadZergling | brotherhood and the confusing one before it |
| 01:27.44 | unclesatan | edward elric |
| 01:27.50 | unclesatan | brotherhood was amazing but the first one was like wtf |
| 01:28.05 | unclesatan | i can't get his face right |
| 01:28.10 | DeadZergling | it had its good points |
| 01:28.27 | DeadZergling | but their explanation on the artificial humans, homunculus was AWFUL |
| 01:28.46 | DeadZergling | well, face I'll look at more later |
| 01:28.51 | DeadZergling | one thing REALLY stands out for me right now |
| 01:28.54 | DeadZergling | he is too tall |
| 01:29.09 | unclesatan | he'd be pissed to hear you say that |
| 01:29.23 | DeadZergling | I know he would :) |
| 01:29.26 | DeadZergling | but I'm not just trolling |
| 01:29.31 | DeadZergling | he is too tall |
| 01:29.41 | DeadZergling | the body/arms look good, the legs however |
| 01:29.42 | unclesatan | oh i know, i see it now |
| 01:29.53 | unclesatan | i knew something was bothering me but |
| 01:30.00 | unclesatan | i have 22 heroes to do for my map so i kinda just lef tit |
| 01:30.02 | unclesatan | left it |
| 01:30.05 | DeadZergling | the face isn't bad, but could be sharper, and the eyes need to be about 30-40 % larger |
| 01:31.07 | unclesatan | ach |
| 01:31.20 | unclesatan | i'll do a quick attempt at enlarging the eyes |
| 01:31.23 | DeadZergling | i can assume a pony tail exists in the back? |
| 01:31.33 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/xfeGcr4.png |
| 01:31.34 | unclesatan | height |
| 01:31.39 | unclesatan | yeah the braided hair does exist |
| 01:31.50 | DeadZergling | much better |
| 01:31.57 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/YZYTxnW.png |
| 01:31.59 | unclesatan | here's a back shot |
| 01:32.20 | DeadZergling | I'd like to see his right leg larger though |
| 01:32.25 | DeadZergling | that is the mechanical one correct? |
| 01:32.58 | DeadZergling | i know without a doubt his right arm is supposed to be mechanical, but i get forgetful on the leg |
| 01:34.01 | unclesatan | yeah his left leg is the mechanical one |
| 01:34.09 | DeadZergling | my bad |
| 01:34.31 | DeadZergling | but as I recall, his mechanical leg was always a little bigger |
| 01:34.41 | unclesatan | interesting i never noticed that, good eye |
| 01:35.07 | DeadZergling | my eyes are a little, too good... |
| 01:35.24 | DeadZergling | get motion sickness over just about anything |
| 01:35.33 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/iqxQS4b.png |
| 01:35.36 | unclesatan | ok bigger eyes bigger leg |
| 01:35.40 | unclesatan | and lol i feel that |
| 01:36.03 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm |
| 01:36.15 | DeadZergling | why is there a bugs bunny/mickey mouse glove on his left hand? |
| 01:37.28 | DeadZergling | out of curiosity, did you grab any other FMA chars? lol |
| 01:38.04 | unclesatan | those would be the gloves that state alchemists wear |
| 01:38.08 | unclesatan | i knew something was ronk with it |
| 01:38.13 | unclesatan | but it's just too big i see now |
| 01:38.28 | DeadZergling | suppose, guess I have the image of edward fighting father burned into my mind too mu ch |
| 01:38.44 | unclesatan | lol yea |
| 01:38.47 | unclesatan | best part of the series |
| 01:38.55 | unclesatan | i'm gonna add the red jacket to him |
| 01:38.59 | DeadZergling | and most fucked up |
| 01:39.08 | unclesatan | yeah when al unbinds his soul |
| 01:39.11 | unclesatan | omfg |
| 01:39.13 | unclesatan | i shed tears |
| 01:39.16 | unclesatan | then this song came on |
| 01:39.20 | DeadZergling | well that is one thing |
| 01:39.28 | unclesatan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJix4fIizus |
| 01:39.37 | DeadZergling | but father spewing out explosive temporary humans |
| 01:39.43 | unclesatan | oh, yeah |
| 01:39.45 | DeadZergling | is much, much worse |
| 01:39.54 | unclesatan | father was insane |
| 01:39.58 | unclesatan | created a sun in his hand |
| 01:39.59 | unclesatan | nuclear fusion |
| 01:41.12 | unclesatan | fucked everything over with the exploding corpses |
| 01:42.05 | DeadZergling | so that one besides the glove and such looks a lot better, but the eyes still aren't anime big, lol |
| 01:42.24 | DeadZergling | he also wore those gloves on both hands, as I recall |
| 01:47.16 | DeadZergling | and as if exploding people isn't bad enough, he also felt the need to make all of them a form that would truly disturb the victim as much as possible |
| 01:47.42 | DeadZergling | little babies yelling mama for the housewife, people seeking a body for alphonse, etc |
| 01:47.53 | unclesatan | he did wear gloves on both hands, but in the map he will be transmuting his arm blade which rips his glove off |
| 01:48.20 | unclesatan | i actually think he used the souls from the sacrifices to fill the bodies |
| 01:48.23 | DeadZergling | well may as well just have no gloves then |
| 01:48.34 | DeadZergling | I know he did |
| 01:48.37 | DeadZergling | that is why it is so bad |
| 01:48.58 | unclesatan | true, well i've seen him fight with only one glove on |
| 01:49.21 | DeadZergling | indeed, has fought with both, one, none |
| 01:49.37 | DeadZergling | but rather have both or none, otherwise you got the michael jackson thing going on |
| 01:49.42 | unclesatan | lol |
| 01:49.44 | unclesatan | true |
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| 01:51.00 | unclesatan | ugh |
| 01:51.02 | unclesatan | i f'd up his finger |
| 01:51.38 | DeadZergling | replace it with automail! |
| 01:52.17 | unclesatan | right lol |
| 01:52.20 | unclesatan | for the lels |
| 01:53.38 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/Y8bl20m.png |
| 01:53.40 | unclesatan | ok |
| 01:53.42 | unclesatan | bigger eyes and gloveless |
| 01:54.34 | DeadZergling | hrrrrmmm, well the hand is definitely better |
| 01:54.54 | DeadZergling | *goes to look at a few edward pictures for eye reference, lol* |
| 01:55.28 | unclesatan | haha |
| 01:55.42 | unclesatan | i sized them originally with a reference |
| 01:55.49 | unclesatan | but anime eyes are always so irritating to make |
| 01:56.09 | DeadZergling | here is a good pic for what you should aim for: http://www.zerochan.net/642069#full |
| 01:56.33 | DeadZergling | a good serious face |
| 01:56.44 | unclesatan | yeh i'll be making him srs face |
| 01:56.50 | unclesatan | he looks far too happy go lucky |
| 01:57.07 | DeadZergling | i would say less happy |
| 01:57.09 | DeadZergling | and more, data |
| 01:57.14 | unclesatan | also making the eyes bigger i have to redo his expression |
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| 01:57.36 | DeadZergling | yea, while the eyes are about the right size now, it now no longer fits the rest |
| 01:57.52 | unclesatan | ye for sure |
| 01:57.57 | DeadZergling | blame anime, not me |
| 01:57.59 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 01:58.19 | unclesatan | lol i know it's been an issue lately |
| 01:58.27 | DeadZergling | they have a very particular way of doing faces |
| 01:58.48 | unclesatan | i can do the more realism kinda things it seems, but when it comes to anime faces i just fail to understand it sometimes |
| 01:58.48 | DeadZergling | probably why I like Jo-Jo's bizarre adventures so much |
| 01:58.58 | DeadZergling | it is such a radical departure from traditional anime style |
| 01:59.06 | unclesatan | haha yea for sure |
| 01:59.10 | unclesatan | have you ever watched hellsing? |
| 01:59.24 | DeadZergling | no, haven't at all |
| 01:59.48 | DeadZergling | JoJo drew me in with the weirdness of its name |
| 02:00.04 | DeadZergling | was just, I have to see wtf this is |
| 02:00.31 | unclesatan | i'll likely be putting it in my map eventually |
| 02:00.48 | DeadZergling | put Joseph Joestar in |
| 02:00.48 | unclesatan | jo jo is an interesting anime for sure |
| 02:01.10 | DeadZergling | devious bastard, but he is so entertaining to watch |
| 02:01.19 | unclesatan | lol that looks like so much fun to sculpt |
| 02:01.25 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/EvryrqS.png here's probably one of my better models |
| 02:01.27 | unclesatan | from hellsing |
| 02:01.51 | DeadZergling | why is his face so squarey? |
| 02:02.33 | DeadZergling | otherwise good, besides the square infection 10 % of the model has going on |
| 02:03.01 | unclesatan | http://img2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100516192457/hellsing/images/6/6f/Alucard_profile_1.jpg |
| 02:03.04 | unclesatan | i used that for a reference |
| 02:04.05 | DeadZergling | it might be a lot better from a distance |
| 02:04.13 | DeadZergling | but up close, ahhh, squares! |
| 02:04.18 | unclesatan | oh |
| 02:04.19 | unclesatan | you mean |
| 02:04.22 | unclesatan | the low polygon |
| 02:04.24 | unclesatan | i see what you mean |
| 02:04.42 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/4XMPb50.png |
| 02:04.55 | unclesatan | that was a test for me |
| 02:05.02 | unclesatan | to see if i could make a good looking face with alot less polygons |
| 02:05.10 | DeadZergling | yea, on his chin, nose ridge, near his tie collar, and faintly on his hat |
| 02:06.01 | DeadZergling | if this for a far away view played game, the squares are fine |
| 02:06.13 | DeadZergling | but closer, gonna be distracting from all his good qualities |
| 02:06.15 | unclesatan | yeah you'll be seeing them from the distance of a starcraft character |
| 02:06.37 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/qs0mnec.png |
| 02:06.37 | unclesatan | there's divided vers |
| 02:07.00 | unclesatan | i'll be adding mroe polies to the clothes but |
| 02:07.11 | unclesatan | workflow for zbrush is to stay away from using so many polygons until you have the right shape |
| 02:07.28 | DeadZergling | yea, I don't pretend to know much about models, lol |
| 02:07.35 | DeadZergling | wish I did though, make my 3 armed halfling |
| 02:08.06 | unclesatan | i understand haha, i take everything with a grain of salt |
| 02:08.40 | DeadZergling | some people take my reporting issues as being sadistic and mean |
| 02:08.44 | unclesatan | i spent 10 years of my art life getting offended at what people say but it gets tiring and i realized they're just saying what they see and i can't help that, art caters to the eye of other people for the most part so i had to reconcile that with myself |
| 02:08.52 | DeadZergling | but actually, I more like reporting the issues so they can be fixed |
| 02:09.07 | unclesatan | you should hear my friends rly |
| 02:09.11 | unclesatan | every 5 seconds "he's got a dick" |
| 02:09.56 | DeadZergling | ??? |
| 02:11.14 | unclesatan | or |
| 02:11.26 | unclesatan | "dick nose he has a dick nose and his fingers look like twinkies" |
| 02:11.34 | unclesatan | they just say shit to be mean |
| 02:12.05 | unclesatan | i realize when people are saying shit to be mean and saying shit because they want to see it look better |
| 02:12.56 | DeadZergling | or in my case... they have little control over not pointing out errors |
| 02:13.14 | unclesatan | which is fine lol thats' constructive in my eyes |
| 02:13.23 | unclesatan | what my friends tend to say is not constructive at all lol |
| 02:13.47 | DeadZergling | it is pretty bad, I'm having to resist playing starcreatures again |
| 02:13.53 | DeadZergling | and leaving him another 2-3 page report of errors |
| 02:14.06 | DeadZergling | need to focus on my project, lol |
| 02:15.46 | DeadZergling | they just like trying to see if they can shake you huh? |
| 02:17.24 | DeadZergling | I'm not that way at all, I just can't contain myself, is actually kind of a problem when I try to observe my children's artwork... |
| 02:17.41 | unclesatan | hahaha i'm sure he appreciates it, but i feel that whole focusing on your project thing. i've tried to get myself out there for testing, but it gets tough with all the work i'm trying to do for my map lol |
| 02:17.47 | unclesatan | and yeah they just try to piss me off |
| 02:18.04 | unclesatan | mostly it's in good fun, but they have no artistic vision at all so they wouldn't be able to provide anything constructive even if they tried |
| 02:18.33 | DeadZergling | what do you mean by, artistic vision? |
| 02:18.54 | DeadZergling | afk just a min or two to microwave stuff |
| 02:18.58 | JademusSreg | (Design ability, I imagine.) |
| 02:20.34 | unclesatan | i mean they just do not make art at all |
| 02:20.44 | unclesatan | or have an eye for knowing what looks good |
| 02:24.56 | DeadZergling | hi Jade, check this out, made it using something you helped me with like a year or so ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0umsrU6bHJ8 |
| 02:25.22 | DeadZergling | I have some of knowing what looks good, and some ability to make things |
| 02:25.32 | DeadZergling | but I know most the things I make, look like ASS |
| 02:25.39 | DeadZergling | and not the kind you'd want to hit |
| 02:28.08 | unclesatan | hahaha |
| 02:28.27 | unclesatan | yeah the stuff i make isn't some professional shit, but i'm getting better with some constructive criticism |
| 02:29.06 | DeadZergling | oh i dunno, if you can make/skin those, and animate them |
| 02:29.10 | DeadZergling | i'd call it professional, lol |
| 02:31.53 | unclesatan | haha |
| 02:31.57 | unclesatan | i can skin 'em |
| 02:32.04 | unclesatan | gonna animate 'em all too |
| 02:32.47 | unclesatan | eventually they'll be free for public to download |
| 02:33.02 | unclesatan | i gotta head out though, thanks for your time DZ i really appreciate it |
| 02:33.05 | DeadZergling | what are these actually for? |
| 02:33.09 | unclesatan | my map! |
| 02:33.12 | DeadZergling | nps, you did all the work, lol |
| 02:33.13 | unclesatan | VGA Rumble |
| 02:33.32 | unclesatan | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/54533-closed-alpha-vga-rumble/#p2 |
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| 02:41.13 | JademusSreg | Adorable, Deadz, glad to help. |
| 02:42.05 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 02:45.08 | EntityEnigma | would anyone be able to help me in figuring out how to get a shield to appear on a marine model? |
| 02:46.19 | DeadZergling | define shield |
| 02:46.31 | DeadZergling | do you mean, like tangible shield, or more like forcefield? |
| 02:47.56 | EntityEnigma | DeadZergling: im just trying to get the combat shield to be displayed on the marine model |
| 02:48.08 | DeadZergling | oh, the upgrade one? |
| 02:48.12 | EntityEnigma | just for looks |
| 02:48.14 | EntityEnigma | yeah |
| 02:48.28 | DeadZergling | should be possible to do if you screw around in the events of the marine actor |
| 02:48.40 | DeadZergling | look for something pertaining to that upgrade |
| 02:48.42 | EntityEnigma | yeah |
| 02:48.58 | DeadZergling | it could also just be changing the validator to be okay with level 0 or 1 upgrade |
| 02:49.07 | DeadZergling | im not at the editor, so can't tell you exactly :) |
| 02:49.07 | EntityEnigma | i tried changing stuffs but nothing happened |
| 02:49.17 | EntityEnigma | oh |
| 02:49.43 | DeadZergling | the majority of my advice in here comes while im not at an editor, so I can only give hints, not exacts usually |
| 02:50.01 | EntityEnigma | ok thx |
| 02:50.10 | DeadZergling | sure, I'm positive either road would work though |
| 02:51.37 | DeadZergling | anywho, time for me to head home, later all |
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| 03:15.23 | EntityEnigma | anybody here? |
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| 04:05.08 | EntityEnigma | photoshop cant open dds files? |
| 04:20.32 | Kanoobee | hey enigma |
| 04:20.37 | Kanoobee | you sstill here? |
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| 05:41.51 | EntityEnigma | IM BACK |
| 05:42.18 | EntityEnigma | whats up Kanoobee |
| 05:42.58 | Kanoobee | oh just checking if you found what you needed |
| 05:44.06 | EntityEnigma | I was looking for a way to open dds files in photoshop |
| 05:44.10 | EntityEnigma | found this https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-texture-tools-adobe-photoshop |
| 05:44.43 | Kanoobee | cool |
| 05:46.16 | EntityEnigma | havent tried it out yet though |
| 05:46.23 | Kanoobee | lemme know how it goes |
| 05:46.35 | Kanoobee | i didnt have issue opening with gimp |
| 05:46.38 | Kanoobee | so if all else fails |
| 05:48.25 | EntityEnigma | whats gimp? |
| 05:55.37 | EntityEnigma | i love texture swap by id |
| 06:02.31 | Kanoobee | Gimp is like a free photoshop |
| 06:02.47 | Kanoobee | it isnt as nice of a program, but it is free and is is still really really good |
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| 06:57.17 | EntityEnigma | what is an MIP map?? |
| 06:57.54 | Merc | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mipmap |
| 06:58.27 | Merc | (I don't really know myself) |
| 06:58.55 | EntityEnigma | oh cool |
| 06:58.56 | EntityEnigma | thx |
| 07:00.56 | sonicnite | does that guy with the nick VsT something still join this chan? |
| 07:29.28 | Kanoobee | dono |
| 07:43.57 | Kanoobee | anyone know why this wouldnt make an actor look up or down? I am sure i just have this wrong |
| 07:43.58 | Kanoobee | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:44.10 | Kanoobee | "One" is the unit group with the actor in it |
| 07:44.36 | Kanoobee | I have confirmed that the actor can 'look at' |
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| 08:01.11 | Kanoobee | Zolden, just saw your elementals in the forum, that is fantastic |
| 08:02.38 | Zolden | ty :) |
| 08:07.01 | Merc | Zolden has brought more good things into this world than hitler himself |
| 08:11.54 | EntityEnigma | how do you import image files into the editor |
| 08:12.05 | EntityEnigma | i tried retexturing a marine |
| 08:12.46 | Merc | F9 |
| 08:13.01 | EntityEnigma | if you make your own texture will it still change team color? |
| 08:13.19 | Merc | if you define the texture with an alpha channel for the team color |
| 08:13.54 | EntityEnigma | uh oh |
| 08:14.01 | EntityEnigma | said the alpha data was lost when i saved it |
| 08:14.10 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 08:14.23 | Merc | you can find the marine textures if you open console -> type "browse" then dig around |
| 08:14.33 | EntityEnigma | yeah i found them |
| 08:14.40 | Zolden | EntityEnigma save in dds dxt5 format, have black in alpha channel wherey ou want team color to be |
| 08:15.01 | EntityEnigma | woah |
| 08:15.02 | EntityEnigma | okay |
| 08:15.09 | EntityEnigma | guess ill retry it |
| 08:20.17 | Bounty | This is probably one of the most interesting things i've ever watched |
| 08:20.18 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R31SXuFeX0A |
| 08:20.25 | Bounty | Watching it a second time just to take it in more lol |
| 08:22.47 | Merc | jesus 2 hours man |
| 08:23.57 | Bounty | its worth it |
| 08:23.58 | Merc | does he have a 320x240 resolution on that mac or something |
| 08:24.02 | Merc | the menu bar is gigantic |
| 08:24.12 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:24.28 | Bounty | its a podcast so its really more something you listen to |
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| 08:24.44 | Merc | he's just talking about nuts |
| 08:25.14 | Bounty | skip to 6:18 |
| 08:25.19 | Bounty | thats when the podcast starts |
| 08:25.24 | Bounty | before that is just ads lol |
| 08:25.44 | Merc | goddamnit man |
| 08:27.32 | Merc | oh, they talking about cataclysmic events |
| 08:27.51 | Merc | covered that on cosmos a couple of days ago as well |
| 08:28.04 | Bounty | not some of these |
| 08:29.04 | Merc | oh just meteors in general |
| 08:29.18 | Merc | that thing in russia was awesome man |
| 08:29.24 | Merc | all those dashcams capturing it |
| 08:29.26 | Bounty | meteors, climate change etc |
| 08:33.08 | Bounty | The stuff in Atlantis was interesting |
| 08:33.22 | Bounty | it all is awesome |
| 08:33.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:33.27 | EntityEnigma | hey Zolden do you think this will work for a medic model with a gun? http://i.imgur.com/FG0VmI9.png |
| 08:33.50 | EntityEnigma | if i just use it to retexture a marine |
| 08:34.48 | Zolden | it will if it fits the uv map |
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| 08:35.27 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 08:36.50 | Merc | (if it is the same pixel dimensions and everything is in the same place) |
| 08:37.07 | EntityEnigma | so how exactly do i save in dxt5 format |
| 08:37.41 | Merc | got photoshop? |
| 08:37.41 | EntityEnigma | ive got an nvedia dds plugin |
| 08:37.44 | EntityEnigma | yeah |
| 08:37.57 | Merc | save as DDS, then select dxt5 in options dialogue |
| 08:38.03 | EntityEnigma | nvidia* |
| 08:38.17 | Merc | the exact options you want is described somewhere on the forums |
| 08:38.22 | Merc | at work so cant really dig for it |
| 08:38.35 | EntityEnigma | ah |
| 08:40.49 | UnReached | Someone here who uses 3ds max 2015? Found a tutorial to convert "mdx to m3 in 3ds max 2010", but i dont find the "Standard button next to 01-Default" in the material menu. |
| 08:41.31 | Merc | rumor has it you cant use anything newer than 3dsmax 2011, but I havent tried myself |
| 08:41.51 | Merc | at least art tools were made for 2011 version |
| 08:41.53 | Zolden | yea, m3 exporter only works on max 10 or 11 |
| 08:42.17 | UnReached | hmm ok, then i will download 2011 - thanks for the info |
| 08:42.49 | Merc | I use the importer script on the 32 bit version of 2011, and the art tools on the 64 bit |
| 08:43.02 | Merc | they cant be on the same version, fyi |
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| 08:45.09 | EntityEnigma | oh lol it was a drop down menu |
| 08:45.28 | Merc | DeadZergling: worked on your thing last night |
| 08:45.38 | DeadZergling | cool, did that map help? |
| 08:45.40 | Merc | I played around with the camera angle and sort of did my own twist on it |
| 08:45.49 | Merc | moved some shit around too |
| 08:45.52 | DeadZergling | that's fine, I just wanted to give you a good base |
| 08:45.58 | Merc | I'm gonna claim the artistic freedom card |
| 08:46.12 | Merc | managed a shot that got seriously bloody |
| 08:46.21 | DeadZergling | that's fine as well, I try not to hand them out to artists now that I understand they like restrictions, lol |
| 08:46.25 | EntityEnigma | theres 2 options for dxt5: "interpolated..." and "using DXT5" |
| 08:46.27 | Merc | working in 1920x1080 since I have no idea what resolution to work in |
| 08:46.37 | DeadZergling | let me find the exact, one moment |
| 08:46.52 | Merc | at work now, would be cool if you pm-ed it |
| 08:46.57 | DeadZergling | 225x150 |
| 08:47.05 | Merc | oh, that is small |
| 08:47.13 | EntityEnigma | *interpolated alpha |
| 08:47.17 | EntityEnigma | im guessin thats the one |
| 08:47.36 | Merc | should be a detailed post about the options on sc2mapster EntityEnigma |
| 08:47.58 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 08:48.01 | Merc | DeadZergling: since it's that small I might be able to work faster, skip some details ;) |
| 08:48.31 | EntityEnigma | what's the post title or key words i can search for it with |
| 08:48.43 | DeadZergling | indeed, I apologize for taking so long to give you that detail |
| 08:48.50 | DeadZergling | kept forgetting, lol |
| 08:48.52 | Merc | I think I just googled for dds/nivida etc etc |
| 08:48.54 | EntityEnigma | a lot of stuff came up but i wasnt able to find what i was looking for |
| 08:49.03 | DeadZergling | trouble with being impulsive like me, when you are on, you are really on |
| 08:49.13 | DeadZergling | but then, is many times where you do ABSOLUTELY nothing |
| 08:49.23 | Merc | I know how that is |
| 08:49.45 | DeadZergling | makes it harder to force yourself to do things, too |
| 08:50.26 | Merc | adhd light |
| 08:50.41 | Merc | maybe you should get hold of some meth |
| 08:51.58 | DeadZergling | well I don't do that kind of shit |
| 08:52.04 | DeadZergling | may break out the fireball though |
| 08:53.12 | EntityEnigma | I FOUND IT |
| 08:53.14 | Merc | Bounty: Winter is coming |
| 08:53.19 | Merc | EntityEnigma: gj! |
| 08:53.47 | DeadZergling | sent you a PM as requested |
| 08:53.59 | Merc | nice bide |
| 08:54.03 | Merc | bice. |
| 08:54.15 | DeadZergling | a 225 x 150 version is the main goal, but an 800 x 600 would be cool too if you wanted to have more fun with it |
| 08:54.27 | DeadZergling | I'd definitely throw it in the how to play screenshots, lol |
| 08:54.29 | Merc | already working in full hd res, so sure |
| 08:55.02 | DeadZergling | of course, I guess the freedom thing could vary by artist |
| 08:55.23 | Merc | well, I am no artist |
| 08:55.28 | DeadZergling | how do you feel about getting assigned an art task, do you prefer freedom to do whatever you want, or do you prefer some restrictions? lol |
| 08:55.47 | Merc | guidelines are good, ideas are good, concepts are good |
| 08:55.50 | DeadZergling | you are freaking Raphael compared to me |
| 08:55.52 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 08:55.57 | Merc | but if I get an idea while working, I'm going with that |
| 08:56.11 | Merc | ideas -> inspiration -> better result |
| 08:56.37 | DeadZergling | speaking of being impulsive, time to replace my doctored controls |
| 08:56.42 | DeadZergling | since weapon switching is now implemented |
| 08:56.48 | Merc | is there a way to flip the model of the guy btw? |
| 08:56.54 | Merc | as in, the tychus model |
| 08:57.03 | Merc | now he's not facing the camera |
| 08:57.09 | DeadZergling | sure, explicit rotation |
| 08:57.20 | DeadZergling | oh, just to move him? |
| 08:57.26 | DeadZergling | get him selected |
| 08:57.33 | Merc | well, then he'd be firing in the wrong direction if you just rotate him |
| 08:57.34 | DeadZergling | then hold down control, and is either right or left click |
| 08:57.36 | DeadZergling | will spin him |
| 08:57.45 | Merc | I mean flip along the z axis |
| 08:57.58 | Merc | mirror the model, sort of |
| 08:58.04 | DeadZergling | oh yea, you'll need an explicit rotation for that |
| 08:58.30 | DeadZergling | isn't too hard to do, but I'd need to know what you need to do |
| 08:58.36 | Merc | sounds familiar |
| 08:59.13 | DeadZergling | probably be easier if you were to send me what you have set up |
| 08:59.16 | DeadZergling | tell me what you want |
| 08:59.19 | DeadZergling | and I can make that happen |
| 08:59.54 | DeadZergling | you are wanting him to face up or down more, correct? |
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| 09:11.56 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 09:12.15 | EntityEnigma | missing important images make posts almost usless |
| 09:12.46 | DeadZergling | yes, I'm not all that fond of images going bad over time myself |
| 09:12.52 | DeadZergling | makes half the tutorials worthless on sc2mapster |
| 09:12.53 | EntityEnigma | do i set the alpha fade color to black? |
| 09:13.12 | EntityEnigma | yeah |
| 09:16.14 | EntityEnigma | Zolden: you there? |
| 09:16.34 | Zolden | yea |
| 09:16.46 | EntityEnigma | how do i set the alpha color? |
| 09:17.01 | Zolden | go to channels, add one more, it will be alpha |
| 09:17.08 | Zolden | then draw with black color |
| 09:17.19 | Zolden | or paste there one of the colored channels |
| 09:17.38 | Zolden | and draw with white to remove unnecessary parts |
| 09:17.51 | EntityEnigma | i dont see any channels option |
| 09:17.55 | EntityEnigma | heres where im at |
| 09:18.04 | EntityEnigma | http://i.imgur.com/0JW2yiq.png |
| 09:18.07 | Zolden | are you talking about ps? |
| 09:18.50 | Zolden | the right part of your image has layers and channels tabas |
| 09:18.54 | Zolden | go to channels tab |
| 09:18.59 | Zolden | it's b4 u export |
| 09:19.06 | EntityEnigma | oooh ty ty |
| 09:40.59 | EntityEnigma | Zolden: hows this look? http://i.imgur.com/NzfOtyE.png the red area (except blood on right) is alpha |
| 09:41.32 | Zolden | just wear a unit with it, u'll see |
| 09:42.10 | EntityEnigma | okay is there anything i should be careful not to fuck up while im saving it? |
| 09:48.04 | Zolden | should be fine, I guess, as soon as it's dxt5 |
| 09:48.08 | EntityEnigma | Zolden: sorry to keep bothering you but do i need to check load MIP maps in Read Cofig... 'DDS Read Properties'? http://i.imgur.com/wxjeSRy.png |
| 09:48.22 | EntityEnigma | i think thats my last question |
| 09:48.46 | Zolden | don't worry, ask whatever you want |
| 09:50.00 | EntityEnigma | i saw someone say on the forums not to load them but idk what they do so wanted to make sure im not excluding important data |
| 09:50.14 | Zolden | no, your read dialog is proper |
| 09:56.25 | Kanoobee | Zander, do you by chance have the max file for that giant plane on your "true pip" thing? I tried to import the m3 from the forum and it returned an error |
| 09:56.29 | Kanoobee | Zolden* |
| 09:56.35 | Kanoobee | wow, im tired |
| 09:56.36 | Kanoobee | lol |
| 10:01.04 | Zolden | yes, you can't import stuff that was generated with art tools |
| 10:01.11 | Zolden | because it saves in newer format |
| 10:01.13 | Kanoobee | ahh, i see |
| 10:01.26 | Zolden | just create a giant plane |
| 10:01.31 | Zolden | it's 3 clicks or something |
| 10:01.34 | Kanoobee | k |
| 10:01.48 | Kanoobee | how do you determin where the render shows up |
| 10:01.59 | Kanoobee | it looks like you have it faded to a corner |
| 10:02.34 | Zolden | yea, it uses a texture in screen coordinates |
| 10:02.42 | Zolden | alpha |
| 10:02.48 | Kanoobee | ahh |
| 10:03.10 | Zolden | i can give you the file, but it won't give you the knowledge |
| 10:03.23 | Kanoobee | well, i am not looking to copy the file |
| 10:03.33 | Zolden | you butter ask what you don't understand, and I"ll answer |
| 10:03.34 | Kanoobee | i need to replicate the effect on something else I am doing |
| 10:04.11 | Zolden | to create the effect you need to udnerstand how do it |
| 10:04.15 | Kanoobee | so, if i have a texture from a unit, could i erase parts of it and apply that texture to the unit for rtt |
| 10:04.35 | Kanoobee | specifically in those erased parts |
| 10:04.39 | Zolden | forget about units, we're talking in terms of model |
| 10:04.44 | Kanoobee | ok |
| 10:05.05 | Kanoobee | i am talking about the texture of a unit though |
| 10:05.18 | Zolden | first, create a plane, then create a material for it, use any texture, but set uv layer to screen |
| 10:05.45 | Kanoobee | k one sec |
| 10:06.47 | EntityEnigma | ZOLDEEEEEEEEEN!!!!! http://i.imgur.com/wbLPXsb.jpg |
| 10:06.54 | Zolden | then in preview you'll notice, that if you move the camera relatively to the model, the texture moves too |
| 10:07.21 | EntityEnigma | IT WORKED |
| 10:07.22 | EntityEnigma | LIKE A BOSS |
| 10:07.27 | Zolden | EntityEnigma looks like it fits, but are there team colors? |
| 10:07.35 | EntityEnigma | yeah |
| 10:07.37 | EntityEnigma | the shield |
| 10:07.38 | EntityEnigma | is white |
| 10:07.50 | EntityEnigma | it would be black if there werent |
| 10:08.01 | EntityEnigma | the boarder around it is white |
| 10:08.15 | EntityEnigma | holy shit man |
| 10:08.15 | Kanoobee | sorry but, how do i set uv layer to screen? |
| 10:08.16 | Goa_ | Zolden lol :D http://www.speld.nl/2014/04/12/russia-announces-world-cup-2018-hosting-cities/ |
| 10:09.56 | Zolden | why is hungary not russia yet? prepare the troops! |
| 10:10.47 | Zolden | Kanoobee go to material -> any map (diffuse, for example), adn there will be something about uv maps. Check art tools documentation to see waht each field mean to be sure |
| 10:11.16 | Kanoobee | k |
| 10:11.56 | Zolden | if I remember correctly, there's something like UV Layer 1 by default, and you need to change that to something like Screen Space |
| 10:12.29 | Zolden | or you can try different values to see waht theyr do |
| 10:14.01 | EntityEnigma | omg |
| 10:14.03 | EntityEnigma | im so |
| 10:14.08 | EntityEnigma | happy right now |
| 10:14.22 | Merc | :p |
| 10:14.29 | Zolden | lol |
| 10:15.07 | Merc | those little victories while learning the editor are great |
| 10:15.15 | Merc | seeing your vision come to life |
| 10:26.09 | DeadZergling | could still use an answer to my question earlier, Merc :) |
| 10:26.18 | Merc | what? |
| 10:26.32 | DeadZergling | concerning Tychus |
| 10:26.32 | Merc | suddenly had to run off to lunch earlier, hang on |
| 10:26.35 | Merc | let me read up |
| 10:26.40 | DeadZergling | did you want him to look more up/down, right? |
| 10:26.59 | Merc | ah |
| 10:27.05 | Merc | yea |
| 10:27.23 | Merc | I placed the camera down on the floor, had a good frog perspective angle going on |
| 10:27.58 | Merc | but that means tychus, who is in the focus (cause he has a good bright color) ends up assfacing the camera |
| 10:28.18 | Merc | if I could turn him around while still having the gun point to the right in the image |
| 10:28.21 | Merc | that would be great |
| 10:29.56 | Merc | also, since the camera is so low his face gets kinda hidden, but I can probably manipulate around that |
| 10:30.37 | DeadZergling | hrrrmmm, I'm concerned I'll do the wrong thing, so send me the map file as it is right now |
| 10:30.48 | DeadZergling | and maybe a screenshot with an arrow or two indicating what you want |
| 10:30.51 | Merc | at work, will have to do that later |
| 10:30.58 | Merc | I can send you the stuff I've done so far then too |
| 10:31.16 | Merc | then you can have some input on the ideas before I spend too much time on it |
| 10:31.40 | DeadZergling | when are you typically home/able to access the editor? |
| 10:31.45 | DeadZergling | how many hours from now? |
| 10:31.59 | Merc | 5 hours from now |
| 10:32.25 | DeadZergling | I see, I'm just wondering what would be more effective, me trying to do it for you, or me showing you how to do it yourself |
| 10:32.32 | DeadZergling | it really isn't so hard once you have done it once |
| 10:32.50 | Merc | wouldnt mind learning how |
| 10:33.05 | DeadZergling | it is literally punching numbers in until it does what you want, lol |
| 10:33.13 | DeadZergling | once you got the proper thing |
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| 10:34.32 | DeadZergling | okay, well I won't be at the editor in 5 hours, lol |
| 10:34.44 | DeadZergling | but I feel confident I can explain it well enough to you at work |
| 10:35.06 | Merc | sounds good |
| 10:35.28 | DeadZergling | thanks again for all the help, I never intended to be this much trouble for you, lol |
| 10:36.00 | Merc | dont worry about it man |
| 10:36.20 | Merc | gives me an excuse to procrastinate on my own project |
| 10:36.30 | Merc | I dont have a deadline anyway |
| 10:38.37 | DeadZergling | by the way, what text style did you use for the control image again? |
| 10:38.47 | DeadZergling | thinking I might use the same for a credit image |
| 10:38.54 | Merc | Bank Gothic |
| 10:39.10 | Merc | guilty pleasure of mine for scifi related fonts |
| 10:39.23 | Merc | it's probably overused by now |
| 10:39.29 | DeadZergling | hehe, can understand, I overuse the SC font |
| 10:40.10 | DeadZergling | just thought it'd be nice if they match, I'm a little scared though of how many credits I have to list |
| 10:40.15 | Merc | the sc font should honestly only be used for the sc logo :p |
| 10:40.46 | DeadZergling | oh it isn't that bad, now using doom logo font for everything |
| 10:40.52 | DeadZergling | that would be absolutely bad |
| 10:41.01 | Merc | I dont think typefaces are ever mentioned in credits |
| 10:45.31 | DeadZergling | indeed, but the number of borrowed models/sounds/music |
| 10:45.34 | DeadZergling | is pretty high, lol |
| 10:53.07 | Merc | no CC troubles there? |
| 10:54.47 | DeadZergling | no, is all free/just credit me |
| 10:54.54 | DeadZergling | type deal |
| 11:06.50 | Merc | cool |
| 11:07.38 | DeadZergling | which was good, as most the sounds I had to edit to fit, lol |
| 11:08.56 | DeadZergling | sigh, could this second boss have any more stupid complications, lol |
| 11:15.40 | DeadZergling | found a really bad logic error while I was at it, would have made the second boss nearly impossible |
| 11:23.32 | Goa_ | why it is that I only select 1 building from they same type with drag select? |
| 11:23.46 | Goa_ | While it works right with other units |
| 11:29.33 | Zolden | Goa_ check model -> selection levels or something |
| 11:29.58 | Zolden | but maybe it has something to do with unit options |
| 11:30.09 | Goa_ | selection layer |
| 11:30.12 | Goa_ | I have that right |
| 11:30.29 | Merc | custom models? |
| 11:32.31 | Goa_ | yeah it must be the model |
| 11:32.54 | Goa_ | Though why the fuck does that matter |
| 11:32.57 | Merc | everything alright with the HitTest volumes? |
| 11:33.35 | Zolden | if drag select works for at least one building, hit test is ok |
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| 11:33.54 | Zolden | so it's that thing that makes buildings be selectable like that |
| 11:33.59 | Merc | hm ok |
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| 12:14.42 | Goa_ | Hmm, here is who deserves to win the Arcade mapmaking contest: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/12925522624 |
| 12:17.46 | Kanoobee | wow |
| 12:17.49 | Kanoobee | i quit |
| 12:17.52 | Kanoobee | lol |
| 12:19.06 | Goa_ | I doubt he will get into the top 5, as people wont vote him:( |
| 12:19.50 | Merc | is it fun to play or just technically impressive |
| 12:21.43 | Kanoobee | its more technically impressive |
| 12:21.56 | Kanoobee | i cant even imagine having the desire to do all of that |
| 12:22.01 | Kanoobee | not even the desire man |
| 12:22.09 | Kanoobee | im just making somehting simple |
| 12:22.13 | Kanoobee | little cheezy |
| 12:22.16 | Kanoobee | hopefully fun |
| 12:22.55 | Zolden | I don't know why that dude is not on unity |
| 12:23.11 | Zolden | that shit would take like 10 times less efforts to do that on unity |
| 12:23.15 | Merc | whole thing looks like a job application tbh |
| 12:23.38 | Merc | blizzard is gonna have that shit on file |
| 12:23.46 | Zolden | yea, maybe he wanted to work in blizz |
| 12:23.47 | Merc | if they get a job opening, and he applies |
| 12:23.57 | Merc | they're gonna be all "oh shit that guy" |
| 12:24.03 | Merc | instant interview |
| 12:27.17 | Merc | the fact that he did it all in their own engine, self taught, is probably a huge plus to them |
| 12:37.30 | Kanoobee | Zolden |
| 12:38.11 | Kanoobee | Do you know if a unit can render a from it's own camera to it's one texture? |
| 12:38.18 | Kanoobee | with rtt |
| 12:38.47 | Kanoobee | own* |
| 12:59.38 | Merc | goddamn, this workday |
| 12:59.45 | Merc | interruptions all over the place |
| 12:59.49 | Merc | no time to slack and have a coffee |
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| 13:07.28 | Zolden | Kanoobee yes, it can |
| 13:07.56 | Kanoobee | hmm, im trying , i just must not have the right settings |
| 13:08.12 | Kanoobee | ill keep fiddling |
| 13:21.54 | Kanoobee | Ohhh, I just cannot have it on RGBA |
| 13:21.56 | Kanoobee | lol |
| 13:22.00 | Kanoobee | all this time |
| 13:26.32 | Kanoobee | IT WORKS!!! |
| 13:26.37 | Kanoobee | IT"S ALIVE!!!!! |
| 13:27.01 | Merc | screenshot brag time |
| 13:27.08 | Kanoobee | um |
| 13:27.12 | Kanoobee | its not quite that far |
| 13:27.17 | Merc | oh come on |
| 13:27.20 | Kanoobee | enough to be that proud of it |
| 13:27.27 | Merc | always time for a bit of victory flexing |
| 13:27.33 | Kanoobee | let me remodel the screen model |
| 13:27.36 | Kanoobee | and then i will |
| 13:27.45 | Kanoobee | it is just a sphere |
| 13:27.48 | Kanoobee | so not long |
| 13:32.09 | UnReached | Trying to Export a Model to M3 in 3ds Max 2011 - but it says that "MilkshapeExported1" doesnt have the Starcraft II Material attached to it - someone got a clue how to fix this? Currently working with 3ds max for the first time |
| 13:32.29 | Kanoobee | hey |
| 13:32.32 | Kanoobee | that was me like |
| 13:32.34 | Kanoobee | a week ago |
| 13:32.37 | Kanoobee | ok |
| 13:32.56 | Kanoobee | are you using |
| 13:33.02 | Kanoobee | the m3 exporter or art tools |
| 13:33.22 | UnReached | the m3 exporter |
| 13:33.29 | Kanoobee | use the art tools |
| 13:33.37 | Kanoobee | esspecially if you have 2011 |
| 13:34.00 | Kanoobee | do you know what the art tools is |
| 13:34.03 | Merc | from what I know, you gotta import the m3 model to 3ds max, then save the model as a max file, reopen it in a different version with Art Tools, then assign materials there |
| 13:34.06 | Merc | pretty clunky |
| 13:34.08 | Merc | but works |
| 13:34.09 | UnReached | y, just installed it |
| 13:34.15 | Kanoobee | sweet |
| 13:34.16 | Kanoobee | ok |
| 13:34.35 | Kanoobee | actually |
| 13:34.37 | Kanoobee | um |
| 13:34.40 | Kanoobee | just one sec |
| 13:35.02 | Merc | would be so glorious if there was a script to convert the materials properly |
| 13:36.22 | Kanoobee | to be honest, i would rather just show you |
| 13:36.27 | Kanoobee | is that alright? |
| 13:36.44 | UnReached | that would be fine |
| 13:36.53 | Kanoobee | k one sec |
| 13:39.13 | Kanoobee | ok, ill stream lol, just for you |
| 13:39.19 | Kanoobee | twitch.tv/kanoobee |
| 13:39.24 | UnReached | ok thanks :) |
| 13:40.51 | Kanoobee | let me know when you can see me |
| 13:40.53 | Kanoobee | or |
| 13:40.56 | Kanoobee | my screen rather |
| 13:41.41 | Kanoobee | ok? |
| 13:41.45 | UnReached | well, i see "my first Fan-Art" |
| 13:41.49 | Kanoobee | lol |
| 13:41.50 | UnReached | Stream is stated as offline |
| 13:42.12 | Kanoobee | i just restarted it |
| 13:42.33 | UnReached | ah ok, im watching :) |
| 13:42.37 | Kanoobee | ok |
| 13:42.41 | Kanoobee | can you hear me? |
| 13:42.52 | UnReached | y |
| 13:46.00 | UnReached | yes |
| 13:51.28 | UnReached | np, i think i understood it |
| 13:51.40 | EntityEnigma | hey Kanoobee do you have a project you are currently working on? |
| 13:51.48 | Kanoobee | yeah |
| 13:51.50 | Kanoobee | how come? |
| 13:52.23 | EntityEnigma | you wouldnt happen to know anyone who loves coop tactical survival and is looking for a project to work on would you? |
| 13:52.37 | EntityEnigma | id LOVE someone else to work with |
| 13:52.41 | Kanoobee | lol |
| 13:53.08 | EntityEnigma | oh and Merc what guy were you talking about applying to blizzard? |
| 13:53.30 | Merc | I was referring to Goa_'s link |
| 13:53.40 | Merc | the whole thing looked like a job application |
| 13:53.55 | EntityEnigma | lol |
| 13:53.58 | EntityEnigma | what link |
| 13:54.36 | Merc | 14.13:15 < Goa_> Hmm, here is who deserves to win the Arcade mapmaking contest: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/12925522624 |
| 13:55.54 | UnReached | ok, thanks |
| 13:55.59 | Kanoobee | I feel a bit like his 'map |
| 13:56.04 | Kanoobee | falls a bit out of scope |
| 13:56.45 | EntityEnigma | HOLY SHIT |
| 13:56.50 | EntityEnigma | are you fucking kidding me? |
| 13:56.59 | EntityEnigma | is that even possible within sc2? |
| 13:57.00 | Merc | dude can code |
| 13:57.30 | Kanoobee | plus to be honest, i dont think it is what blizz is looking for. The reason they probably started the contest was to get people to play starcraft and possible buy it. but this guy not only created something that doesnt resemble starcraft at all, but doesnt even really require it. If i remember correctly it is a stand alone |
| 13:57.32 | Kanoobee | right? |
| 13:57.54 | EntityEnigma | OMFG |
| 13:57.57 | Kanoobee | also to boost the dying map making comm |
| 13:57.58 | EntityEnigma | AN EDITOR? |
| 13:58.00 | EntityEnigma | WTF |
| 13:58.12 | Merc | my impression is that blizzard feels kinda bad about teasing with the map marketplace, and never releasing it |
| 13:58.18 | EntityEnigma | im without words |
| 13:58.40 | Merc | so they came up with the contest to reward the people who had put a lot of work into it |
| 13:59.22 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 13:59.33 | EntityEnigma | damn i wish i could learn from that dude |
| 13:59.48 | EntityEnigma | oh wait |
| 13:59.50 | EntityEnigma | are you saying |
| 13:59.57 | EntityEnigma | that guy made his map |
| 14:00.03 | EntityEnigma | and blizz was like wtf is this |
| 14:00.12 | EntityEnigma | not going on the arcade no way |
| 14:00.12 | EntityEnigma | ? |
| 14:00.56 | Merc | what, me? |
| 14:06.02 | EntityEnigma | about teasing with the map marketplace? |
| 14:07.27 | EntityEnigma | hey Kanoobee have you ever heard of Night of the Dead Spec Ops? |
| 14:08.00 | EntityEnigma | what are you making atm btw |
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| 14:16.11 | Kanoobee | i have not |
| 14:16.23 | turtles1 | hi guys |
| 14:16.27 | Kanoobee | hey! |
| 14:16.28 | EntityEnigma | hi |
| 14:17.30 | EntityEnigma | its a game concept i think has a ton of potential |
| 14:17.53 | Kanoobee | oh? |
| 14:17.55 | Kanoobee | why is that |
| 14:18.16 | EntityEnigma | i guess its not particularly original but the mechanics really require some amazing teamwork to make it through the game |
| 14:19.08 | EntityEnigma | highly specialized classes so you cant function effectively if everyone doesnt play their role |
| 14:19.16 | EntityEnigma | i think it makes each player feel unique |
| 14:19.26 | EntityEnigma | like they have a very important purpose |
| 14:19.41 | EntityEnigma | which i like |
| 14:20.18 | EntityEnigma | idk |
| 14:20.46 | EntityEnigma | the down side is it seems like a crappy game till you see the bigger picture of how a squad functions as a whole |
| 14:20.52 | EntityEnigma | which takes a long time |
| 14:22.47 | Kanoobee | mmm |
| 14:23.00 | EntityEnigma | its really hard to explain |
| 14:25.05 | EntityEnigma | working together to accomplish something great is always a good feeling |
| 14:25.11 | EntityEnigma | thats the essense of it |
| 14:25.37 | Kanoobee | nice |
| 14:29.48 | EntityEnigma | this is what it looks like kinda https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yz1iw2LdtLE |
| 14:30.18 | EntityEnigma | hard to tell what is going on though lol |
| 14:36.06 | EntityEnigma | ugh how do i always get so many tabs open... |
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| 14:51.14 | Zolden | turns duckies into a quacking duck |
| 14:51.41 | UnReached | Anyone knows where i can find the "Use Mopaq Paths" option in 3ds max? |
| 14:52.04 | Zolden | it's in export floater |
| 14:52.06 | duckies | quacks, flaps, backflips and undoes zoldens wizzardy |
| 14:52.24 | UnReached | thanks |
| 14:54.32 | EntityEnigma | peace guys |
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| 14:56.08 | Kanoobee | open up the export floater |
| 14:56.14 | Kanoobee | from the tools menu |
| 14:56.17 | Kanoobee | art tools |
| 14:56.23 | Kanoobee | its a check box there |
| 15:06.05 | Zolden | turns DeadZergling into Zergling and kills it |
| 15:07.32 | DeadZergling | that's Zolden, always Putin people in their place |
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| 15:57.03 | DeadZergling | there, I dare anyone to call my bosses too easy now |
| 15:57.19 | DeadZergling | just barely beat him with max lives from the beginning |
| 15:57.34 | DeadZergling | granted, gonna scale a few things down, but overall i'm happy with it, lol |
| 16:09.08 | pirate | 65s to open my map from SSD :/ |
| 16:12.14 | DeadZergling | then quit hiding all yer porn in thar! |
| 16:14.44 | pirate | but those are my achievement unlocks! |
| 16:23.33 | DeadZergling | heh wow, I had no idea boss bars were THIS easy |
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| 16:35.00 | Kanoobee | Hey Zergling |
| 16:35.34 | DeadZergling | hi Kanoobee |
| 16:35.47 | Kanoobee | You asked what i have been working on, here is a link |
| 16:35.48 | Kanoobee | http://imgur.com/1I2g6bG |
| 16:36.41 | DeadZergling | cockpit, but of what? |
| 16:39.32 | Kanoobee | i know it seems really small and not much, but this will be my first map, so it has taken me a long time to get that done |
| 16:39.40 | Kanoobee | an SCV |
| 16:41.00 | DeadZergling | oh i see, no wonder I had no ideas |
| 16:41.15 | Kanoobee | and i was able to get the render to texture to work as both a rear cam and a sky cam, both of which show up on that screen |
| 16:41.18 | Kanoobee | the circular one |
| 16:41.46 | Kanoobee | oh that cockpit isnt actually what it looks like in an scv, i stole that cockpit from a campaign cutscene |
| 16:44.02 | Kanoobee | and all of my cameras are built into the model, there are no trigger created cameras, no triggers to have camera follow or turn with the unit |
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| 17:11.38 | TwoDie | duckies goa_ how is map night goiung? |
| 17:11.58 | duckies | what map night? |
| 17:12.07 | Goa_ | map night? |
| 17:12.12 | Kanoobee | what is map night? |
| 17:12.17 | Goa_ | yeah |
| 17:12.21 | pirate | MAP NIGHT |
| 17:12.27 | Kanoobee | MAP NIGHT!!!! |
| 17:12.31 | Kanoobee | its on now |
| 17:12.39 | Kanoobee | IT'S TIME TO THROW DOWN |
| 17:13.01 | DeadZergling | hi duckies |
| 17:13.29 | Ahli | someone tell ivion that his tutorial is too long or should be skippable |
| 17:13.39 | Kanoobee | haha |
| 17:14.37 | duckies | hey dz |
| 17:15.15 | DeadZergling | so did do the stat thing like you wanted |
| 17:15.26 | DeadZergling | not sure if I inadvertently did anything else you recommended, lol |
| 17:16.16 | duckies | no idea what you mean by stat thing :D |
| 17:16.29 | DeadZergling | your stats always displaying in top left, regardless of color? |
| 17:22.37 | DeadZergling | well enough is enough, time to publish this fucker |
| 17:27.38 | DeadZergling | figure I'll crap it into EU as well, see if I get any more interesting feedback |
| 17:32.08 | DeadZergling | publish, why must you troll me so |
| 17:35.32 | duckies | aaah |
| 17:35.33 | duckies | I see |
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| 17:37.44 | egod | QUESTION : Can i force 2D protrait to a player ? |
| 17:38.09 | DeadZergling | if you guys need a map to break, feel free to bust up Death TV |
| 17:38.14 | DeadZergling | just pulled another all nighter on it |
| 17:45.28 | pirate | I'm scared to pull all nighters at this point |
| 17:46.11 | pirate | still have significant content to add and I fear I'd write sleep deprived game-breaking code |
| 17:48.00 | duckies | yeah, no pressure, only 8 days left, plenty of time! |
| 17:48.40 | DeadZergling | plenty of time for 2 more bosses, 3-4 more monsters, setting up a new area, and adding 2 new game modes |
| 17:49.10 | pirate | thanks for the reminder >.< |
| 17:49.33 | pirate | lol same DZ |
| 17:49.49 | pirate | 2x bosses, 4x enemies, 3x zones |
| 17:50.20 | DeadZergling | well the new area, new game modes |
| 17:50.20 | egod | how to remove 3D portrait and change it to force in 2D |
| 17:50.34 | DeadZergling | are just working within a system i have completely done now |
| 17:50.43 | DeadZergling | so those are just get it done work, not hard |
| 17:50.55 | pirate | same |
| 17:51.09 | pirate | oh, and new items to go along with each set of content |
| 17:51.50 | Kanoobee | egod |
| 17:52.00 | egod | yes? |
| 17:52.08 | Kanoobee | you can change it withing the actor properties in the data editor |
| 17:52.15 | Kanoobee | or do you need to do with with triggers? |
| 17:52.28 | egod | not possible with triggers, looking in data but cant find it |
| 17:52.39 | Kanoobee | one sec |
| 17:53.40 | DeadZergling | anyways, off to work on 2 hours sleep |
| 17:53.45 | DeadZergling | should be a fantastic day |
| 17:53.46 | pirate | :D |
| 17:54.10 | Merc | oh shit just missed him |
| 17:54.16 | Merc | damn |
| 17:54.46 | egod | i try to remove the animation see if he gonna change it automaticly |
| 17:55.29 | egod | not working |
| 17:55.35 | egod | hmm |
| 17:58.29 | egod | i dont think its possible to force a 2D portrai actuelly |
| 18:27.00 | pirate | anyone else use notepad++? |
| 18:27.39 | pirate | the program lags massively when typing within certain functions, very odd |
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| 18:45.32 | pirate | https://pastee.org/6b2bt |
| 18:45.42 | pirate | why is that failing to remove all units in the unit group |
| 18:46.13 | mille25 | because it skips units |
| 18:46.30 | mille25 | think about what happens upon removing a units from a unit group, pirate . |
| 18:46.42 | pirate | fuck |
| 18:46.59 | pirate | so from 1 to max, remove unitgroupunit(group, 1) |
| 18:47.27 | pirate | I should know this, I USE THIS FUNCTION OF UNIT GROUPS in my turn order functions |
| 18:47.52 | mille25 | simpy change the condition to !unit group is empty and then always process the first index. |
| 18:51.30 | pirate | thank you |
| 18:51.42 | pirate | I wonder how many times I've done this within my script... |
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| 18:59.20 | pirate | aaaaand thats what was wrong with my behavior removing func |
| 18:59.38 | pirate | mille you just fixed like 5 major bugs in rogue star :D |
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| 19:07.23 | duckies | you weren't kidding about 2h sleep, eh dz? |
| 19:07.41 | DeadZergling | not at all |
| 19:07.47 | DeadZergling | I came home last night, dozed off for 2 hours |
| 19:07.54 | DeadZergling | then woke up and worked from 12 am to 10 am |
| 19:08.40 | duckies | power napping eh? just don't randomly collapse during day |
| 19:09.37 | DeadZergling | yea, I just hope I didn't break my project somehow, made lots of adjustments |
| 19:10.20 | DeadZergling | really happy with how Scarred Face the Pyromancer turned out |
| 19:10.45 | DeadZergling | Might change his name later, but sounded better than Firebat man |
| 19:11.12 | duckies | it does ^^ |
| 19:12.19 | DeadZergling | actually changed my mind about a couple of his abilities as I was making him, he turned out much better because of it |
| 19:12.56 | DeadZergling | especially his bring down the house move |
| 19:13.03 | DeadZergling | you'll know it when you see it |
| 19:14.30 | duckies | I will go honour your dedication with a playthrough, well done |
| 19:16.04 | duckies | is there no scaling? should I play solo or attempt 4 players? |
| 19:16.28 | DeadZergling | it scales with 4, but is overall kinder to 4 than 1 |
| 19:16.45 | duckies | he-he |
| 19:16.46 | DeadZergling | think spawn amounts increase by 60 or 70 % per player |
| 19:17.47 | DeadZergling | it isn't true scaling that way, to account for the chaos of multiple players |
| 19:17.53 | DeadZergling | and the fact 1 guy is gonna suck |
| 19:19.32 | Zolden | casts heavy sleep on DeadZergling |
| 19:19.44 | Zolden | casts heavy quack on duckies |
| 19:20.05 | DeadZergling | * casts Putin on Zolden |
| 19:20.15 | Ahli | ok, my map lags like crazy in multiplayer :< |
| 19:20.17 | duckies | deflects heavy quack back to caster |
| 19:21.06 | Zolden | casts mass hitler |
| 19:22.57 | DeadZergling | Summons Cancer the Crab, who quickly dispatches of all Hitler staches, Ebi |
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| 19:38.24 | duckies | oh my, changeling jim ultramegaunitspam(when he dies?) crashed us in 4 player game |
| 19:39.17 | duckies | though no, not crashed, just made us lose connection |
| 19:39.35 | duckies | from what I see now, looks like an infinate spawn unit loop D: |
| 19:40.07 | Ahli | ok, the vision system is lagging like sh*t :D |
| 19:40.26 | DeadZergling | that's interesting, as all his spawns have like a 20 second suicide on th em |
| 19:40.28 | Ahli | move region is better than create region circle, right? |
| 19:40.58 | Ahli | or is move region just a cloaked trashing of region and creation of a new one? |
| 19:42.19 | DeadZergling | so the spawns *SHOULD* be capping out around 20ish |
| 19:42.21 | DeadZergling | for 4 people |
| 19:42.29 | mille25 | Ahli: what exactly are you trying to achieve? |
| 19:42.33 | duckies | dz, in a single frozen frame I see now, it looks like this: "no loger jimmy" has 0 hp, his unit is still not dead, and out of him sprung what seems to be around a thousand .. purple broodlings? |
| 19:42.38 | Ahli | my map lags like crap on bnet |
| 19:42.58 | DeadZergling | have a screenshot? lol |
| 19:43.00 | Ahli | and I'm debugging the replay atm and my vision system seems to add a lot of trigger stress |
| 19:43.19 | Ahli | especially Native:RegionCircle |
| 19:44.23 | Ahli | it's like 100ms per second or something, lol |
| 19:44.45 | duckies | http://snag.gy/XHELB.jpg |
| 19:45.00 | duckies | I was trying to capture a screen but couldnot |
| 19:45.08 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 19:45.13 | duckies | tried it with fraps but no success too |
| 19:45.21 | duckies | apperently it lagged behind very much D: |
| 19:46.03 | DeadZergling | very interesting, considering the only change I made to him was enabling grenades while in slime form.... |
| 19:46.22 | DeadZergling | I suspect I know what happened |
| 19:46.37 | DeadZergling | let me call my wife and see if she can look for me, lol |
| 19:46.59 | duckies | and this is what the end that I got after it allowed me to return to game http://snag.gy/bcJWk.jpg |
| 19:47.28 | DeadZergling | got there in about 17 mins, that's good |
| 19:47.41 | DeadZergling | how did you like the rounds before the boss, was the pace better? |
| 19:47.56 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Projects / File Statuses - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/projects/file-statuses/ |
| 19:48.06 | duckies | lagged a few times from insane amount of spawns |
| 19:48.19 | DeadZergling | let me see if I can do anything about it |
| 19:48.23 | DeadZergling | I'm almost positive I know what I did |
| 19:48.34 | duckies | hehe |
| 19:48.40 | duckies | I can watch replay it seems |
| 19:48.51 | duckies | I'll go make that jucy screenshot just cause :D |
| 19:49.39 | mille25 | nice |
| 19:49.42 | duckies | ah nah, I'll watch it slowly, cause I remember that gun collection felt somewhat wonky |
| 19:49.56 | mille25 | just got random data corruption |
| 19:50.03 | mille25 | thank god for dropbox. |
| 19:51.36 | mille25 | http://s1.directupload.net/images/140523/heffiez8.jpg |
| 19:51.38 | mille25 | :) |
| 19:52.12 | mille25 | without backup i could trash the game now |
| 19:52.15 | mille25 | so yeah people |
| 19:52.17 | mille25 | do backups... |
| 19:52.52 | duckies | scary.. |
| 19:53.26 | duckies | good thing there is an auto-backup option |
| 19:56.53 | duckies | dz, why did I get 15 charges for spread ammo right after my death gun amunition ran out? |
| 19:58.55 | mille25 | i never lose more than 30minutes of work, on average its more like 5 minutes |
| 19:59.05 | mille25 | im literally always prepared for the game to completely fuck up |
| 19:59.08 | DeadZergling | gun switching now enabled |
| 20:02.00 | DeadZergling | you had 15 spread left is why |
| 20:02.46 | duckies | I seem ,makes sense then that I didn't switch to death when I picked it up while I had spread |
| 20:02.54 | duckies | so how exactly does it work now? :o |
| 20:07.02 | duckies | yeah, definitiely a bazzilion broodlings spawning out of dying changeling, attacking it, creating more broodlings until game just drops everyone. Dead units aren't supposed to live you know ;/ http://snag.gy/IxZ0l.jpg |
| 20:08.05 | duckies | damn, I was off, it was just 682 back then http://snag.gy/JP4aE.jpg |
| 20:08.59 | duckies | hah, the amount doubled during that second, I wonder how many there will be by the end of replay :o |
| 20:09.16 | duckies | fells like I'm finding fun in wrong things nowadays >.> |
| 20:09.49 | DeadZergling | well damn, looked at what I thought it was |
| 20:09.51 | DeadZergling | I was wrong |
| 20:09.57 | DeadZergling | that data looks okay |
| 20:12.32 | duckies | uh oh, from 642 @16:35 to 2117@16:39, and replay is almost crashign too... yeah, that procreation rate is too intense for me, gonna back off ;/ |
| 20:13.37 | duckies | here, have yourself a broodling orgy http://snag.gy/F2IjI.jpg |
| 20:15.04 | DeadZergling | be a pretty epic phase if not for the crashing |
| 20:15.34 | duckies | yea, it's like matrix |
| 20:16.04 | DeadZergling | so did you fight him down till he was red? |
| 20:16.05 | duckies | as in slowing down time to the scale where you can't wait for a bullet to move even 1 pixel... |
| 20:16.21 | DeadZergling | or did he suddenly turn red upon appearing? |
| 20:16.24 | egod | BANK FILE SERVER-SIDE NEXT WEEK!!!! (joke) :( |
| 20:16.40 | duckies | I don't know, I think we killed him and he turned red? |
| 20:16.51 | duckies | or he isn't supposed to be red? :o |
| 20:16.58 | Zolden | even if it were next week, it wold be too late |
| 20:16.59 | DeadZergling | he starts off purple |
| 20:17.09 | DeadZergling | then goes blue at 75 %, green at 50 %, and red at 30 % |
| 20:17.30 | duckies | then I'd guess we got him to red? |
| 20:17.32 | mille25 | Ahli: post all related code in a mapster thread, i may be able to help you optimizing code later |
| 20:17.37 | mille25 | Ahli: i dont have much time now |
| 20:18.38 | duckies | I don't want to rewind all the way back there, but I can drop you that replay |
| 20:18.41 | Ahli | no, I'm fine... just moving instead of recreating regions is amazing :D |
| 20:18.41 | DeadZergling | I'm positive if he just appeared and all the sudden it was mass spawn city |
| 20:18.46 | duckies | if you wish to search for more hints |
| 20:18.52 | mille25 | Ahli: ok cool |
| 20:18.53 | DeadZergling | and he was red |
| 20:19.05 | duckies | nah, we fought him for a bit |
| 20:19.19 | DeadZergling | so he went slime, and you were able to fight him down to red? |
| 20:19.27 | Ahli | so, lection of today: do not keep creating regions in a loop :D |
| 20:19.31 | duckies | yeah |
| 20:19.41 | DeadZergling | how long did that take you? |
| 20:19.48 | duckies | also, I remember his hm sometimes dropping by an uneven amount |
| 20:19.50 | duckies | about a minute? |
| 20:19.54 | duckies | *hp |
| 20:20.12 | DeadZergling | almost looks like the slimes are mass spawning and attacking him |
| 20:20.56 | DeadZergling | i just don't get it, as I did like NOTHING with him, lol |
| 20:21.19 | DeadZergling | I removed a disable ability from a behavior of his a night or two ago |
| 20:21.30 | DeadZergling | which was just the grenade |
| 20:22.48 | duckies | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94215656/Time-Stop%20TV.SC2Replay |
| 20:23.14 | Ahli | also I really should make a better buff UI... atm I'm destroying and recreating it in a fairly rapid fashion... the rest of my UI does basically the same, but not periodically |
| 20:23.42 | DeadZergling | look at it later, i really don't get it though, I know I killed him a few times at least today |
| 20:23.45 | duckies | dunno if you can run debugger on replays, nonetheless winessing how it all went down may give you some ideas |
| 20:23.49 | DeadZergling | just to make sure the boss bars were turning off okay |
| 20:24.14 | DeadZergling | besides that, how were the levels before? |
| 20:24.24 | duckies | like a breeze? :D |
| 20:24.32 | duckies | they did feel more like old smash tv |
| 20:24.38 | duckies | without all the delay |
| 20:24.54 | DeadZergling | yea, I amped up all the spawn rates |
| 20:25.01 | DeadZergling | and reduced total spawn amount a little |
| 20:25.24 | DeadZergling | so no rounds where you got bored? |
| 20:25.42 | duckies | nope |
| 20:25.51 | DeadZergling | good, that is a major goal |
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| 20:26.15 | duckies | if I could get one thing, I'd wish to have a hero marker, maybe toggleable, like a big teamcolored splat under hero |
| 20:26.21 | duckies | so that I know where I am at all times |
| 20:26.35 | duckies | helps capture attention more in a 4 player games |
| 20:26.40 | duckies | *capture focus |
| 20:27.11 | DeadZergling | indeed, but I'm concerned about that |
| 20:27.15 | duckies | cause sad to admit it, a few times I looked away from my guy and then had troubles detecting him again |
| 20:27.19 | DeadZergling | because that is what your shield looks like it |
| 20:27.35 | DeadZergling | so then you have no idea if you have shield or not |
| 20:28.11 | DeadZergling | i dunno, could just put a big cursor that only you see |
| 20:28.30 | duckies | you know, you can just attach that cilinder shape to units origin, visible only to you |
| 20:28.37 | duckies | maybe toggleable on T key |
| 20:28.51 | duckies | it's ugly, so it would capture attention perfectly |
| 20:29.20 | duckies | I mean stretched out cilinder, kinda in style of those air unit helpers |
| 20:30.19 | DeadZergling | and even a duckies can see it |
| 20:30.19 | DeadZergling | i'll go with the cursor idea I think, shouldn't interfere |
| 20:30.53 | DeadZergling | you certainly are skilled at breaking my map, duck :) |
| 20:31.07 | DeadZergling | did the stats display work without a hitch? |
| 20:31.12 | DeadZergling | I put that in just for you, you knw |
| 20:32.47 | duckies | this time I was player 1, so I couldn't appreciate it, but I'll be sure to try again when broodling overclock is fixed, will leave and rejoin so that I'm not P1, so that I can see how it works |
| 20:33.07 | duckies | but I'm sure that it's a most useful addition! |
| 20:33.09 | duckies | sure of it! |
| 20:33.22 | DeadZergling | better be, as it was a most large pain in the ass to make work right |
| 20:34.32 | DeadZergling | this is driving me insane, may need to try to explain to my wife how to enable remote access to my own machine from work |
| 20:34.35 | duckies | praises the dinamically adjusted player stat display panels |
| 20:35.09 | duckies | ah right, it didn't occur to me that you're on work |
| 20:35.25 | Zolden | turns duckies into duckocopter |
| 20:35.36 | Zolden | DeadZergling fly on that home |
| 20:36.16 | duckies | produces roaring engine sounds, even though is not supposed to make those |
| 20:36.22 | DeadZergling | it'll just have to be broken another 7 hours I'm afraid |
| 20:36.26 | DeadZergling | DAMNIT |
| 20:36.32 | Merc | DeadZergling: http://i.imgur.com/Unoi1Ae.jpg |
| 20:36.38 | Merc | draft etc |
| 20:36.39 | DeadZergling | hi merc, lol |
| 20:36.52 | Merc | been fooling around a bit |
| 20:37.08 | DeadZergling | that isn't bad at all |
| 20:37.08 | Merc | this thing is pretty noisy, too much crap going on in there I feel |
| 20:37.12 | Merc | and the logo is stupid |
| 20:37.28 | DeadZergling | the letters could be more defined, and not stuck together |
| 20:37.29 | Merc | kinda felt like going with the shitty old tv concept, but it just looks disturbing |
| 20:37.37 | duckies | I tohught it was cool, reminded me of 80s |
| 20:37.44 | Merc | yeah I want them thicker |
| 20:38.05 | DeadZergling | when Zolden approves of your letter |
| 20:38.08 | DeadZergling | then we have a winner |
| 20:38.26 | DeadZergling | Zolden, what say you about the letters in http://i.imgur.com/Unoi1Ae.jpg ? |
| 20:38.26 | Merc | is he a typographer |
| 20:39.10 | DeadZergling | no, but he is pretty good at spotting bad design |
| 20:39.41 | Zolden | dunno what that supposed to pretend to be |
| 20:40.02 | Merc | havent really worked on the type at all, just ignore it |
| 20:40.14 | Zolden | i'd rather say the image must say more |
| 20:40.27 | Merc | just resized it to 225x150 now and everything turned to mush |
| 20:40.47 | Merc | been working in this size, with the text as a sort of placeholder: http://i.imgur.com/eLFbn2C.jpg |
| 20:41.18 | Zolden | screenshots suck as game icon |
| 20:41.35 | Zolden | need something bright, readable |
| 20:41.39 | duckies | that camera somehow looks out of place |
| 20:41.43 | Zolden | simple and volumous |
| 20:42.03 | Zolden | just draw an old tv set with blood on screen |
| 20:42.25 | Merc | different one I was working on earlier, started on the painted look but went cba: http://i.imgur.com/eacBhUb.jpg |
| 20:42.34 | Zolden | and google how old tv's distortions look like |
| 20:42.39 | Zolden | and apply that to the letters |
| 20:43.14 | Merc | liked that one better since tychus was so visible and dominant |
| 20:43.16 | Tomura | maybe you could also try to create a chromatic aberation effect |
| 20:43.20 | Merc | but he was facing the wrong way |
| 20:43.20 | Tomura | for the edges |
| 20:43.34 | Merc | that would be cool Tomura |
| 20:43.35 | Zolden | this one is probably more readable, but lack of style, too generic, and still a scereenshot |
| 20:44.09 | Merc | goal was to make it look less like a screenshot in 225x150 |
| 20:44.28 | Merc | more of a cartoonish / painted style |
| 20:44.45 | Zolden | good goal, would be easily achieved if it weren't a screenshot initially |
| 20:46.21 | Merc | thats not gonna happen in a week |
| 20:47.40 | DeadZergling | i'd say maybe http://i.imgur.com/eLFbn2C.jpg, but separate the models more, reduce gore really close to them so they stand out more |
| 20:47.44 | DeadZergling | and delete the camera, lol |
| 20:48.10 | Merc | the camera? |
| 20:48.17 | DeadZergling | on the wall |
| 20:48.26 | Merc | oh is that what that is |
| 20:49.05 | DeadZergling | I mostly wanted Z's opinion on the text |
| 20:49.28 | DeadZergling | you didn't need to trash everything else too Zolden :P |
| 20:49.45 | Merc | I can take it :p |
| 20:50.20 | DeadZergling | indeed, but I don't want something that is going to take a month to complete either, lol |
| 20:51.17 | Zolden | DeadZergling text is too generic to criticize, but it's readable, but it's not enough, it should bring style, so add old tv distortion |
| 20:51.49 | Zolden | DeadZergling and star wars font is definitely out of style |
| 20:52.01 | Merc | it's just a placeholder, so dont worry about it |
| 20:52.45 | Merc | it's definitely not the star wars font though :p |
| 20:53.18 | Merc | if anything, it's more like the one used in the Matrix |
| 20:53.51 | DeadZergling | speaking of the Matrix: http://snag.gy/F2IjI.jpg |
| 20:54.42 | Merc | gonna go grab some sleep, I'll play with it some more tomorrow |
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| 20:55.51 | Bounty | peow |
| 20:56.18 | DeadZergling | cool, look forward to seeing what you come up with |
| 20:56.22 | DeadZergling | hi Bounty |
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| 21:02.43 | DeadZergling | lookey what my game decided to do today |
| 21:02.45 | DeadZergling | http://snag.gy/F2IjI.jpg |
| 21:02.52 | DeadZergling | just, so bad |
| 21:03.36 | DeadZergling | duckies, question |
| 21:03.55 | DeadZergling | did you happen to use the wurm gun a LOT right before he went to slime |
| 21:12.13 | DeadZergling | well the good news is, this crash won't happen every time |
| 21:13.00 | DeadZergling | Will occur more often with wurm gun use , but is probably a simple logic error happening there |
| 21:20.57 | DeadZergling | oh well, get back to me when you are done with your quackers, duckies |
| 21:23.41 | duckies | I didn't use it at all but I think one of my allies did, why else there would be broodlings? :D |
| 21:24.27 | DeadZergling | what I don't get is why so many |
| 21:25.03 | DeadZergling | think I know a fix anyways |
| 21:25.13 | duckies | they all seemed to be attacking 0 hp guy, and 0 hp guy wasn't dying |
| 21:25.50 | duckies | at least I know he wasn't dead dead cause his healthbar was still on |
| 21:25.58 | DeadZergling | yea, the wurm gun is designed to release a wurm |
| 21:26.05 | DeadZergling | when the unit dies |
| 21:26.26 | DeadZergling | somehow, the wurm infestation behavior didn't get wiped, and kept getting triggered nonstop |
| 21:27.15 | DeadZergling | this bug has probably existed as long as Boss 1 has existed |
| 21:27.17 | duckies | that's what they get for playing god, you just don't toy with aliens |
| 21:28.29 | DeadZergling | in other words, it should be safe to move past him if you don't use the wurm gun, lol |
| 21:29.23 | DeadZergling | that's a really interesting bug anyways, and going to red in 1 minute makes sense |
| 21:30.03 | DeadZergling | all the broodlings were on your side, by the way |
| 21:30.23 | duckies | yeah |
| 21:30.25 | duckies | purple |
| 21:30.28 | duckies | the color of player |
| 21:31.15 | DeadZergling | oh well, this one is probably pretty rare |
| 21:31.40 | duckies | I like your optimism =D |
| 21:31.56 | DeadZergling | will still squash it, but it isn't anywhere as game destroying as I first believed |
| 21:32.20 | duckies | it merely crashes weaker machienes |
| 21:32.39 | DeadZergling | just trying to think how it could spawn that many, lol |
| 21:32.54 | DeadZergling | i know for a fact I changed wurm infestation stack to have a limit of 10 per caster |
| 21:33.37 | DeadZergling | and on phase change, the boss gets a full heal + a health boost |
| 21:34.13 | DeadZergling | but never gets one again |
| 21:34.48 | duckies | phase = that morph? |
| 21:34.59 | DeadZergling | yea, he has a behavior |
| 21:35.05 | DeadZergling | with a fatal damage response |
| 21:35.08 | DeadZergling | that makes him go slime |
| 21:35.27 | DeadZergling | but that behavior self removes when it happens |
| 21:36.33 | DeadZergling | so probably what needs to happen is just remove all wurm infestations on phase change |
| 21:36.36 | DeadZergling | and never see this again |
| 21:37.23 | DeadZergling | pity that happened, i really wanted to hear your thoughts on area 2 monsters/boss |
| 21:37.56 | duckies | I played it once before when it was just double the raynors |
| 21:38.09 | DeadZergling | yea, I improved the spawns |
| 21:38.10 | duckies | but it was probably a different game |
| 21:38.13 | DeadZergling | to be faster paced |
| 21:38.21 | DeadZergling | fixed issues with snakes |
| 21:38.26 | duckies | I liked probes and colored scvs |
| 21:38.32 | DeadZergling | and boss 2 is just as unfair as in the original |
| 21:38.47 | DeadZergling | you may lol when you see one of his attacks :) |
| 21:38.55 | duckies | had no idea wtf to do with banes, so I just died and rammed them with invulnurability |
| 21:39.09 | DeadZergling | banes are weak at turning |
| 21:39.28 | duckies | so run around in circles? hmmm |
| 21:39.37 | DeadZergling | I made them a little weaker since you played, and they have a momentary stop when you shoot them now |
| 21:40.02 | duckies | ah, nice |
| 21:40.03 | duckies | btw |
| 21:40.06 | duckies | what are snakes? |
| 21:40.16 | duckies | were they in that version that I played? |
| 21:40.40 | DeadZergling | banelings/weird protoss orb thingy (has the force field wall people hate in melee i think? ) |
| 21:42.26 | DeadZergling | what had to have happened was one of the wurm behaviors got the death damage response trigger, and it somehow got stuck |
| 21:43.08 | DeadZergling | and the wurm behavior has nothing in there to remove itself either |
| 21:43.19 | DeadZergling | it just assumes removal happens as the unit must have died |
| 21:43.39 | DeadZergling | damnit, Jim |
| 21:45.44 | DeadZergling | in any case, I truly appreciate all the play testing you put in duckies |
| 22:04.50 | duckies | you know what needs to be done then |
| 22:05.40 | duckies | there is only one way you can repay my goodwill |
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| 22:05.48 | duckies | make dancing raven a character! |
| 22:06.49 | Caz_AtWork | Sup guys |
| 22:07.40 | Caz_AtWork | When responding to a casted ability in triggers - can we check what level the ability is at? |
| 22:08.17 | Caz_AtWork | Or would you need to have the trigger respond to different effects used at each level of the ability ? |
| 22:08.56 | duckies | I just opened trigger editor and typed "level" |
| 22:09.12 | duckies | "current level for unit ability" in conditions |
| 22:09.20 | duckies | probably what you're looking for |
| 22:10.12 | duckies | but it makes sense that you can't do that since you're at work |
| 22:10.34 | duckies | damnit, I'm too chilled to realize that for someone it's still friday, happened twice today D: |
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| 22:13.44 | pirate | grrrr, archon model has no origin attach |
| 22:14.05 | pirate | this breaks the cone/line ability aiming cursor |
| 22:14.13 | pirate | (when in archon form) |
| 22:14.21 | sonicnite | are dark archons with mind control in the editor? |
| 22:14.26 | pirate | no |
| 22:16.29 | Caz_AtWork | duckies - ur correct, i cant check that since im at work. I'm just pseudo coding in notepad lol |
| 22:17.01 | pirate | archons DO have an origin attach, but what then breaks the aiming cursor? |
| 22:17.14 | duckies | yea, I realized that after I wrote my grumpy worded answer |
| 22:17.24 | duckies | probably a sign that it's bed time =D |
| 22:18.46 | Zolden | DeadZergling http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/mancunian/848090/379181/379181_original.png |
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| 22:25.01 | Caz_AtWork | *wave* Ahli |
| 22:25.48 | Ahli | *wave* Caz |
| 22:31.06 | Caz_AtWork | duckies - i'm doing a resurrect spell partially in triggers |
| 22:33.01 | Caz_AtWork | I figure it'll look something like this when i get home. |
| 22:33.03 | Caz_AtWork | http://pastebin.com/8zesTFPR |
| 22:33.54 | duckies | kinda, though I in your place would wory more about targets |
| 22:34.09 | duckies | are you reviving corpses? how are you going to create them |
| 22:34.56 | duckies | default way? or custom made units. selectable just for that spell and like a doodad unselectable for anything else? what about control/ai? |
| 22:35.19 | duckies | though those are things I've never dealt with. didn't have any need to play with dead units :s |
| 22:36.20 | duckies | damnit.. reviving units.. like a necromancer, rising skeletons, like in d2.. now I can't wait for d2 ladder reset, got to wait 4 more whole days |
| 22:36.24 | duckies | look what you've done |
| 22:36.30 | duckies | look what you've doooooneee! |
| 22:36.42 | duckies | flaps out |
| 22:36.48 | duckies | falls asleep |
