| 00:00.39 | A1win | woo now you can make a mine field, made the mines last for 2 minutes but set a limit of 6 mines per player |
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| 00:07.01 | bob22 | is there a way to view trigger errors on bnet (online) |
| 00:11.20 | bob22 | cant really find a way to view them |
| 00:22.05 | Caz | Anyone know the flag / setting for having "Time Use" for an ability show up in the button tool tip ? |
| 00:22.12 | Caz | errr |
| 00:22.16 | Caz | srry not cooldown |
| 00:22.26 | Caz | The prepare time |
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| 00:22.42 | Caz | i have set to prepare time 0.5 on the ability |
| 00:22.49 | Caz | but it doenst show up on the button tool tip |
| 00:22.59 | Caz | cool down and energy costs do |
| 00:28.04 | Caz | Need this Effect-Instant ability's prep time to show up on the button tooltip somehow. |
| 00:30.01 | A1win | why do my units that are not Turnable turn D: |
| 00:31.20 | Caz | o.o |
| 00:31.21 | Caz | lol |
| 00:32.01 | A1win | oh, the model has a rotation animation |
| 00:32.26 | A1win | so the question is, why doesn't it spin constantly |
| 00:33.44 | DeadZergling | cause you aren't using a sop rotator actor |
| 00:34.26 | A1win | its animation spins it |
| 00:34.39 | A1win | but in-game it only rotates when it turns or something |
| 00:36.05 | DeadZergling | oh, probably has a default walk/stand animation set |
| 00:36.13 | DeadZergling | just make the walk/stand animation defaults the same |
| 00:36.49 | A1win | it only has one animation |
| 00:37.41 | DeadZergling | ah, well I invite you to the magical land of actor unit events |
| 00:37.59 | DeadZergling | probably has something flagged to make it spin when turning, then stop the animation after or something |
| 00:38.24 | DeadZergling | something is making that animation stop |
| 00:39.35 | A1win | I guess |
| 00:39.53 | A1win | maybe I'll just attach it to an invisible unit model then ;p |
| 00:41.05 | DeadZergling | or could just use a sop rotator |
| 00:41.11 | DeadZergling | take an entire 1 minute to do |
| 00:41.46 | A1win | and 2 hours to figure out how it works |
| 00:42.25 | DeadZergling | ah my bad, sorry I forgot, you like to make things more complicated |
| 00:42.51 | A1win | I mean I have no idea how I would put a site op to a unit's actor itself |
| 00:43.00 | A1win | I tried using Hold Rotation and nothing happened |
| 00:45.02 | DeadZergling | oh, let me educate you then |
| 00:45.18 | DeadZergling | you just want it to spin all the time, right? |
| 00:45.48 | A1win | yeah |
| 00:46.01 | DeadZergling | make a new actor, basic rotator |
| 00:46.13 | DeadZergling | put Z axis about 1 or 2 |
| 00:46.31 | DeadZergling | rate about 90 - 180, so you aren't ultra spinning or anything |
| 00:46.43 | DeadZergling | then just slap that in the actor's site operations |
| 00:46.56 | Caz | There something that allows/prevents preptime from showing up on an abilities button ? |
| 00:47.04 | Caz | i have one ability that shows it |
| 00:47.06 | Caz | and one that doesnt |
| 00:47.07 | Caz | o.o |
| 00:47.15 | DeadZergling | define 'showing up' |
| 00:47.28 | Caz | a little clock with a "2" next to it showing on the tooltip |
| 00:47.37 | Caz | for the chosen prep time |
| 00:48.01 | DeadZergling | could just copy the flags off the one with it to the one without |
| 00:48.11 | Caz | they look the same |
| 00:48.13 | Caz | to me.. |
| 00:48.15 | A1win | Hosting: Host Site Operations - Operations ? |
| 00:48.23 | DeadZergling | aye A1win |
| 00:48.30 | DeadZergling | for what you doing, nothing dynamic needed |
| 00:49.23 | A1win | that didn't do anything |
| 00:49.56 | A1win | it's still resetting the animation or whatever |
| 00:50.10 | DeadZergling | does the rotator have any values? |
| 00:50.41 | A1win | I'm not even sure how a rotator would fix this, the model itself has a rotation animation and that's getting reset -> gets messed up |
| 00:51.27 | DeadZergling | got me dude, I just know if I want something to rotate continually, this gets it done in just a few tries every time |
| 00:52.09 | A1win | or hmm maybe it is working |
| 00:52.14 | A1win | just looked weird for some reason |
| 00:52.30 | A1win | made it rotate faster and now it looks to be rotating |
| 00:52.37 | DeadZergling | aye, that is usually the few tries for me, making it look just right |
| 00:53.08 | A1win | now to figure out why this thing won't keep moving, eventually stops at its target point :X |
| 00:53.17 | A1win | trying to make it bounce back and forth by accelerating it |
| 00:53.28 | A1win | but velocity is tricky |
| 00:55.22 | DeadZergling | I see, sounds like an interesting challenge |
| 00:55.34 | DeadZergling | how do you track movement speed anyways? |
| 00:55.53 | A1win | in unit's custom values |
| 00:56.09 | A1win | one for positive X, one for negative X, and same for Y ;p |
| 00:56.21 | A1win | can't have negative values in custom values |
| 00:56.38 | A1win | could've just offset it I guess but well |
| 00:56.40 | Bounty | You can resize models within portraits btw DeadZergling |
| 00:56.47 | Bounty | via the actor message SetScaleAbsolute |
| 00:57.07 | DeadZergling | aye, just wasn't sure how to do it if it was in a dialog |
| 00:57.11 | Bounty | *drops the mic* |
| 00:57.17 | Bounty | oh btw |
| 00:57.23 | Bounty | you wanna hear the 2nd song my composer did? |
| 00:57.26 | Bounty | looking for feedback |
| 00:57.47 | DeadZergling | sure, as long as it isn't dubstep |
| 00:57.51 | Bounty | nah |
| 00:58.28 | Bounty | https://www.dropbox.com/s/vt6wlxa5lyv3dnf/game2.mp3 |
| 00:59.12 | Bounty | He does do a few "DJ" moves that I am meh about |
| 00:59.13 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:00.28 | DeadZergling | well, there is 0 doubt this was done all by one guy from the way it sounds, lol |
| 01:01.47 | DeadZergling | well, it is certainly 'background' music |
| 01:02.02 | DeadZergling | it just keeps doing the same thing, with different stuff thrown in at varying times |
| 01:02.10 | Bounty | thats all its meant to be |
| 01:02.30 | DeadZergling | should be fine as long as BG music is all it is ever supposed to be |
| 01:02.45 | Bounty | I would have preferred music more frontstage but what can ya do |
| 01:03.05 | DeadZergling | what I'm listening to, apparently |
| 01:03.25 | DeadZergling | coulda done without the weird shit in the last 5 seconds, lol |
| 01:04.32 | DeadZergling | it isn't really bad, isn't really good, is just kind of, yes, this is some sort of music |
| 01:05.01 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:05.30 | Bounty | I THINK he might come through with my latest request after hearing that |
| 01:05.36 | Bounty | Told him I wanted an "aggressive trance" |
| 01:05.44 | DeadZergling | I doubt having this in your game will piss anyone off |
| 01:05.54 | Bounty | yeah I mean |
| 01:05.57 | Bounty | most ppl play with music off |
| 01:06.49 | DeadZergling | is kind of how I picked rock music out for my game |
| 01:06.54 | DeadZergling | aside from area 3 |
| 01:07.05 | DeadZergling | that music is just so awesome someone needs to hear it, lol |
| 01:07.11 | Bounty | yeah lol |
| 01:07.20 | Bounty | You learn that mighty quick when it comes to royalty free music |
| 01:07.30 | Bounty | gems need to be put somewhere |
| 01:07.34 | Bounty | others are just fillers |
| 01:08.12 | Bounty | Will you be attending the event tomorrow? |
| 01:08.53 | DeadZergling | is my plan |
| 01:08.59 | DeadZergling | I might be tired as fuck from pulling an all nighter though |
| 01:11.37 | Bounty | same |
| 01:11.55 | Bounty | Even though I got rid of the issues I was facing... still have an entire menu to design |
| 01:11.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:12.05 | Bounty | + testing |
| 01:12.19 | Bounty | so I think we should attempt to help each other on the testing part if need be |
| 01:12.24 | Bounty | QUICK tests of course |
| 01:12.34 | Bounty | just to see if shit works |
| 01:15.03 | DeadZergling | indeed, may be enough there that we got plenty of testers though |
| 01:15.57 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:16.00 | DeadZergling | guy i work with has been playing my map a lot, still can't beat boss 1 |
| 01:16.01 | Bounty | just in case though lol |
| 01:16.04 | Bounty | talking about LATE night |
| 01:16.06 | DeadZergling | I gave him the easiest route |
| 01:16.10 | DeadZergling | to try to help, lol |
| 01:16.15 | Bounty | when the only people online are in Norway |
| 01:16.36 | DeadZergling | what time you regularly going to sleep right now Bounty ? |
| 01:16.47 | Bounty | its become later and later |
| 01:16.51 | Bounty | except last night I went to bed at 2 am |
| 01:17.02 | Bounty | but typically I got to bed about 7am EST |
| 01:17.09 | Bounty | at the earliest |
| 01:17.33 | DeadZergling | I been having issues getting to sleep before 4 am PST, lol |
| 01:17.46 | Bounty | Melatonin |
| 01:17.49 | DeadZergling | i have a day-job though |
| 01:17.56 | Bounty | Is what you need |
| 01:18.14 | DeadZergling | seems to be working great for you, lol |
| 01:18.21 | Bounty | Its in the vitamin section is stores like Walgreens |
| 01:18.28 | Bounty | nah I don't take it |
| 01:18.32 | Bounty | I MIGHT tonight |
| 01:18.45 | Bounty | at like 6 |
| 01:24.38 | DeadZergling | I just need to set reasonable goals for a change |
| 01:24.44 | DeadZergling | oh and not get stuck on one tiny fucking thing |
| 01:25.15 | Bounty | I think we both just need to consider the unknown variables |
| 01:25.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:25.22 | Bounty | in the sense of bugs or issues |
| 01:25.41 | DeadZergling | hindsight is always 20/20 man |
| 01:27.20 | DeadZergling | interesting music, this Angelique Kidjo has |
| 01:27.33 | Bounty | I only heard that one song honestly |
| 01:27.36 | DeadZergling | nevermind the fact you half expect her to eat a child's stillbeating heart out at any given time |
| 01:27.37 | Bounty | Thought it was quite catchy |
| 01:28.01 | DeadZergling | looks like she could one punch knock out Clubber Lang, lol |
| 01:28.16 | Bounty | what do you mean? |
| 01:28.47 | DeadZergling | just a very fierce looking woman, was she the black warrior in conan: the destroyer? |
| 01:28.55 | DeadZergling | I think she was |
| 01:29.47 | Bounty | I only know that one song thats it |
| 01:29.50 | Bounty | Never seen her |
| 01:29.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:29.57 | Bounty | google time? |
| 01:30.16 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:30.22 | Bounty | I get what you're saying now |
| 01:30.35 | DeadZergling | watch some of her shit where she dances |
| 01:30.40 | DeadZergling | she looks like she is hunting a fucking tiger |
| 01:30.42 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 01:30.49 | Bounty | haha |
| 01:30.59 | Bounty | Well I mean its not surprising given the music |
| 01:31.25 | Bounty | Music like that is just catchy as fuck sometimes |
| 01:31.29 | DeadZergling | I know I know, just looks like Blackena, the Warrior Princess of Africa, lol |
| 01:31.38 | Bounty | Makes me wanna hunt some buffalo |
| 01:33.11 | DeadZergling | was she the one who tried beat Ms. Griffin's ass in Family Guy? lol |
| 01:35.17 | Bounty | never really watched Family Guy |
| 01:35.22 | DeadZergling | okay, so that wasn't her in conan or family guy |
| 01:35.27 | DeadZergling | was someone else and Mrs. T, lol |
| 01:35.36 | DeadZergling | but still, she could SO easily have filled in |
| 01:36.37 | Bounty | ok so |
| 01:36.42 | Bounty | here is the layout DeadZergling |
| 01:36.44 | Bounty | let me know what you think |
| 01:36.49 | Bounty | the unfilled center is map/mode |
| 01:36.51 | Bounty | voting |
| 01:36.54 | DeadZergling | ass! |
| 01:37.01 | DeadZergling | oh wait, haven't linked it yet |
| 01:37.14 | Bounty | http://i60.tinypic.com/1z3mc07.jpg |
| 01:37.36 | Bounty | beam customization section is far from done but you get the idea |
| 01:38.13 | DeadZergling | not really a fan of how the players are displayed |
| 01:38.21 | DeadZergling | some of the text is hard to read |
| 01:38.32 | Bounty | color? |
| 01:38.33 | DeadZergling | and having to go back and forth all the time is too much work |
| 01:38.43 | Bounty | what do you mean? |
| 01:39.05 | DeadZergling | top name, bottom name, top name, bottom name |
| 01:39.12 | Bounty | yeah |
| 01:39.16 | Bounty | you know why I did that yes? |
| 01:39.21 | DeadZergling | space issues |
| 01:39.28 | Bounty | player names can be long |
| 01:39.33 | Bounty | and can intersect |
| 01:39.36 | Bounty | but yeah |
| 01:39.51 | DeadZergling | I understand, but it is distracting |
| 01:39.56 | Bounty | and in the case of the player 4 color |
| 01:40.00 | Bounty | I will be disabling certain colors |
| 01:40.08 | DeadZergling | honestly, I'd rather the player color be more pronounced on the marine |
| 01:40.14 | DeadZergling | and just have a standard color for all player names |
| 01:40.24 | Bounty | hmm |
| 01:40.29 | Bounty | that is a good idea actually |
| 01:40.31 | Bounty | let me try something |
| 01:40.41 | Bounty | not the color name idea |
| 01:40.47 | Bounty | but the more pronounced color of the model |
| 01:40.55 | Bounty | let me see if this works |
| 01:41.59 | DeadZergling | is a lot of unused space there too |
| 01:42.06 | Bounty | no shit |
| 01:42.09 | Bounty | Had to do it |
| 01:42.16 | Bounty | it scales with ANY resolution |
| 01:42.19 | DeadZergling | what if you made Playerlist more vertical, that would help a lot with the name length issue |
| 01:43.02 | Bounty | eh I just really like them being on the bottom |
| 01:43.12 | Bounty | going for a sense of community |
| 01:43.14 | Bounty | in the menu |
| 01:43.18 | DeadZergling | that's fine, but it isn't standard |
| 01:43.24 | Bounty | Get your ass kicked in a previous game? |
| 01:43.34 | Bounty | You can see him on the bottom and what he looks like |
| 01:43.55 | DeadZergling | FPS playerlists are almost always read as leaderboards |
| 01:44.28 | DeadZergling | could use banks to store lifetime kills, accuracy rate, etc |
| 01:44.33 | DeadZergling | so people starting off can know |
| 01:44.38 | DeadZergling | Aim at THAT guy, lol |
| 01:44.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:45.16 | Bounty | can just do a hover system |
| 01:45.22 | Bounty | mouse over ppl to see stats |
| 01:45.23 | DeadZergling | community, dude, sure you remember FPS as well as you think? |
| 01:45.29 | Bounty | I do |
| 01:45.41 | Bounty | How many FPS had a menu like this? |
| 01:45.44 | Bounty | none |
| 01:45.55 | DeadZergling | 0 |
| 01:46.10 | DeadZergling | although the dark forces had somethign similar |
| 01:46.15 | DeadZergling | for lightsaber customization |
| 01:48.01 | DeadZergling | had a force powers/lightsaber/character model selection thing |
| 01:49.07 | DeadZergling | okay that's enough Angelique, need something more conventionally good, lol |
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| 02:18.31 | Repo | New announcement: The Thing - Arctic - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/the-thing-arctic/ |
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| 02:54.33 | ArcanePariah | Good evening/day/afternoon/morning everyone |
| 02:56.35 | DeadZergling | hi ArcanePariah , I got to discover more about TM/copyright yesterday |
| 02:56.40 | DeadZergling | had to rename my whole damn project, lol |
| 02:57.34 | ArcanePariah | Ouch |
| 02:58.15 | DeadZergling | yea, oh well, need to drive home for now anyways |
| 02:58.21 | DeadZergling | see you in a couple hours if you still about then :) |
| 02:58.27 | ArcanePariah | Yeah... copyright is meh, trademark I can understand. Copyright and in select areas, patents, have both been abused too much for me to really respect them. |
| 02:58.33 | ArcanePariah | Oh I will be :P |
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| 06:07.52 | Bounty | DeadZergling http://i59.tinypic.com/2mqqdjm.jpg |
| 06:07.59 | Bounty | pref no trolling |
| 06:08.29 | DeadZergling | player1 seems to look a lot cooler than all the other ones |
| 06:09.08 | Bounty | well yeah |
| 06:09.12 | Bounty | bc thats me and I chose a diff model |
| 06:09.14 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:10.13 | DeadZergling | other than that, I see no difference from earlier |
| 06:10.35 | Bounty | really? ok then |
| 06:10.46 | Bounty | asking the wrong person I suppose |
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| 06:30.00 | DeadZergling | heh sorry Bounty , can only say what I see |
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| 07:21.17 | DeadZergling | you there tonight Merc ? |
| 08:17.29 | DeadZergling | someone make the damned reorganization stop... |
| 08:31.33 | Bounty | DeadZergling |
| 08:31.39 | Bounty | ready for my latest composition? |
| 08:31.41 | Bounty | music wise |
| 08:31.42 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:32.18 | Bounty | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/68108247/lol2.mp3 |
| 08:32.53 | Bounty | had to play that shit on the actual keyboard |
| 08:34.56 | DeadZergling | sounds about what I'd do |
| 08:35.02 | DeadZergling | just use the same 2 or 3 keys repeatedly |
| 08:35.48 | Bounty | I guess it sounds simple |
| 08:35.58 | Bounty | but was a pain in the ass on a computer keyboard |
| 08:35.59 | Bounty | lolo |
| 08:37.22 | Bounty | was attempting to show my composer something |
| 08:37.26 | DeadZergling | I'm sure, but the fact remains |
| 08:37.39 | DeadZergling | thought you had given up on composing? |
| 08:37.44 | Bounty | I did |
| 08:37.50 | Bounty | Was just showing him something |
| 08:38.50 | DeadZergling | wouldn't it have been easier to skype or call him and just hum the tune? lol |
| 08:39.04 | Bounty | nah |
| 08:39.07 | Bounty | sadly not lol |
| 08:39.15 | Bounty | it suggested I use a keyboard program |
| 08:39.21 | Bounty | so I did |
| 08:39.24 | Bounty | played it |
| 08:39.27 | Bounty | took awhile btw |
| 08:39.29 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:39.35 | Bounty | but yeah |
| 08:39.51 | DeadZergling | anyways, I am REALLY hating restructuring right now |
| 08:40.25 | DeadZergling | having to reset half the fucking variables in my map so my functions will work identically for Area2 as they did for Area1, has been fantastic |
| 08:41.03 | Bounty | idk about you but if I do show up tomorrow (or today?) it will be with an old version |
| 08:41.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:41.49 | DeadZergling | I'm still planning to at least have a demo of Area2 ready |
| 08:46.07 | Bounty | if I'm awake I'll attend |
| 08:46.16 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:46.21 | Bounty | in terms of being awake |
| 08:46.22 | Bounty | lol |
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| 09:22.46 | DeadZergling | morning A1win |
| 09:22.55 | A1win | sup |
| 09:23.28 | DeadZergling | oh, not my level of enjoyment of restructuring systems within my map, lol |
| 09:23.45 | A1win | ;> |
| 09:23.54 | DeadZergling | to start the evening off right, made a near duplicate of arena1, just different looks, then proceeded to replace half the damned variables in my map |
| 09:24.00 | DeadZergling | it was necessary, but oh did it suck |
| 09:24.06 | A1win | whee, DiCola updated my loading screen: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ms/0.9b/SC2%202014-05-17%2012-22-27-49.png |
| 09:24.34 | DeadZergling | Text looks more interesting for sure |
| 09:25.12 | Zolden | this is better, cleaner |
| 09:25.25 | Zolden | still suck overall, but better definitely |
| 09:25.38 | DeadZergling | Zolden is so kind, lol |
| 09:26.07 | Zolden | yea, I never tolerate ugliness, ppl hate me for this, but it's ok |
| 09:26.54 | A1win | :P |
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| 09:43.14 | duckies | hey deadzergling, you there? :D |
| 09:43.47 | DeadZergling | yea, I'm here |
| 09:44.16 | Zolden | and there am I |
| 09:44.31 | Zolden | duckies have I ever linked you "it's my beak" song? |
| 09:45.04 | duckies | I sing it every day, when I wake up, before snacks, and after going to bet |
| 09:45.10 | duckies | I live by it! :> |
| 09:45.34 | duckies | dz, played update, got a few aestethics feedback points |
| 09:46.04 | DeadZergling | sure, what I'd do wrong this time, lol |
| 09:47.00 | Zolden | I hope that includes something about ui |
| 09:48.27 | duckies | ah, sorry was making tea :s |
| 09:48.51 | duckies | it's mostly about ui >.> |
| 09:49.28 | DeadZergling | I intend to adjust the player info as you suggested, just not tonight |
| 09:49.33 | DeadZergling | too tired to do that sort of thinking |
| 09:49.53 | DeadZergling | the round intros are just a filler, I have a dialog planned for it |
| 09:50.14 | DeadZergling | the select screen, well I know that is just crap right now, lol |
| 09:50.33 | duckies | my points are about none of those things :D |
| 09:50.38 | duckies | weapons -> can you either add hover tooltips or dialog icons on top of them (like in original)? |
| 09:51.06 | DeadZergling | could, but those just get in the way when you are fighting to me |
| 09:51.36 | duckies | right now it's just differently colored pickup gun models, look cheap and require needles memorization, those split seconds when I ask myself "hm, what does this gun do and do I need it" are lame |
| 09:51.57 | duckies | for example you could add a rocket button icon to rocket launcher |
| 09:52.07 | duckies | and players would be like "it's a rocket" |
| 09:52.47 | duckies | yea, I understand love for minimalism, because of that many people add toggleable options |
| 09:53.32 | duckies | I feel like icons would make it much more understandable for first few times players play the game |
| 09:53.42 | duckies | and those first plays are damn important |
| 09:53.59 | DeadZergling | suppose, but I'm not a modeler, duckies |
| 09:54.32 | DeadZergling | so not sure I could do what you are asking me to |
| 09:54.43 | duckies | I mean, when weapon is spawned, add a 2d icon to it through dialogs, I think most of icons you'd need for weapons are probably already there |
| 09:55.08 | duckies | I wouldn't ask anything zolden level of you >.> |
| 09:55.43 | Zolden | zolden level? |
| 09:55.44 | DeadZergling | I'm not trying to discredit the idea duckies |
| 09:55.45 | duckies | well, it's just a suggestion, might look lame when implemented, but wouldn't know until I see |
| 09:55.55 | DeadZergling | it is more a matter of time |
| 09:56.03 | Zolden | like cow level? |
| 09:56.06 | DeadZergling | I'm not sure I can deliver |
| 09:56.08 | Zolden | or duck level |
| 09:56.33 | duckies | aye, all small polish things require time, It's hard |
| 09:56.45 | DeadZergling | if you could give me an example map of what you think I should do |
| 09:56.56 | DeadZergling | I'd make an effort to put that in for the weapons/powerups/prizes |
| 09:57.08 | duckies | I mean "fuck this sh*t, I'm making my all sh*t custom modeled" zol |
| 09:57.18 | duckies | yea, I can do that |
| 09:57.36 | DeadZergling | i do realize the problem, is why I am having Merc design an awesome loading screen for me |
| 09:57.37 | A1win | DeadZergling, the rotator thing still doesn't work properly, keeps spinning weirdly sometimes (probably due to the animation) |
| 09:57.37 | duckies | will also see how it looks and if it's worth it :D |
| 09:57.40 | DeadZergling | that explains all the items |
| 09:58.25 | duckies | next point -> adjust lives icon based on hero chosen =D |
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| 09:58.41 | DeadZergling | I actually was going to do that |
| 09:58.46 | DeadZergling | I just forgot |
| 09:58.47 | duckies | yay |
| 09:58.50 | duckies | :D |
| 09:58.51 | duckies | D: |
| 09:58.58 | DeadZergling | give me one minute :) |
| 09:59.50 | A1win | ohh, now my starcraft crashed when I quit it after having launched the map from editor |
| 10:00.06 | A1win | so in fact when it crashed when I pressed Test Document, it crashed because it quit the previous game |
| 10:00.13 | A1win | so the bug is still there, just random :\ |
| 10:00.29 | duckies | another extrememly minor but time consuming point -> Unit healthbars, I have "always on" so it would be cool if unit healthbars were modified to show as many bars as rifle shots they require, same for heroes, have them have just 3 hp bars |
| 10:00.49 | A1win | Goa__, Zolden told me you had a bug where SC2 crashed when people quit your map, did you ever figure out what caused it? |
| 10:01.26 | DeadZergling | lives icon will now adjust next update |
| 10:01.46 | duckies | btw dz, you have hots or only wol? |
| 10:01.51 | DeadZergling | only wol |
| 10:01.56 | duckies | I see |
| 10:02.10 | DeadZergling | guessing 'physics' was gonna be a suggestion? |
| 10:03.01 | DeadZergling | well, the health bar thing, I flat out won't do that one, and this is why |
| 10:03.05 | duckies | nah, I like style, and physics for me are mostly a gimmick, especially since for the longest time I played without them |
| 10:03.10 | DeadZergling | it would look ridiculous with hundred of units on screen at once |
| 10:03.22 | DeadZergling | all with little hp bars |
| 10:03.43 | DeadZergling | it just looks better without |
| 10:03.43 | duckies | how about all bars are same size, just the boxes that differ? |
| 10:04.32 | DeadZergling | get back to me about it when I have area 3 done, lol |
| 10:04.45 | DeadZergling | I just don't see the time to mess with it right now, lol |
| 10:04.46 | duckies | okay! :D |
| 10:05.29 | duckies | and final point-> don't remove social button. Move timer and social button to somewhere nicle, like top/bottom of screen |
| 10:05.52 | duckies | since timer panel is now obscurely almost in the middle of screen |
| 10:08.01 | DeadZergling | hrrrrrmmm, which one even is the social panel |
| 10:08.05 | DeadZergling | hiding so many things here, lol |
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| 10:08.44 | A1win | ah, it actually provides a crash log |
| 10:09.02 | A1win | not that I can make anything of it |
| 10:09.25 | Goa__ | A1win I dont even remember in which map I had that bug or I fixed it:) |
| 10:09.29 | Goa__ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LqzF5WauAw |
| 10:10.24 | DeadZergling | have to apologize for me responding like I have brain damage duckies , I'm stupidly tired, but determined to have area2 testable tomorrow |
| 10:11.22 | A1win | crashes to "access violation", but can't really figure out any more than that |
| 10:12.08 | duckies | determination is admireable, so it's all cool. I'll go see if I can make 2d icons on top of units look nice |
| 10:12.41 | DeadZergling | if anyone recalls how to not hide socials, let me know, lol |
| 10:32.46 | DeadZergling | holy shit, I may not be done in 8 hours at this rate |
| 10:32.48 | DeadZergling | what a mess |
| 10:37.26 | Zolden | ficus, you procrastinative shitsack! |
| 10:37.36 | Zolden | *focus |
| 10:40.17 | DeadZergling | well it isn't that I'm not trying |
| 10:40.29 | DeadZergling | is just a giant pile of crap to get done in little time |
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| 11:28.24 | duckies | deadzergling here's what I had in mind back then https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/94215656/DZ%20Test.SC2Map |
| 11:28.59 | duckies | admittedly it ended up looking less cool than it initally did in my imagination :< |
| 11:29.26 | duckies | I also included how I move social ui thingy code in there |
| 11:32.11 | Zolden | have I disguised this guy enough to not attract blizz eyes? http://i.snag.gy/FnkYG.jpg |
| 11:32.47 | DeadZergling | cool duckies, will definitely look later |
| 11:33.03 | DeadZergling | I'm still stuck trying to get area2 setup at the moment |
| 11:33.21 | duckies | what's going on with it? |
| 11:34.09 | DeadZergling | putting in stage spawn infos mostly |
| 11:34.25 | DeadZergling | then I'll need to make sure the spawner sets the new units up right upon spawning |
| 11:34.37 | duckies | zol, first thing I though looking at it - "it's a back of that custom arbiter model!" and then I thought "wtf is that a broodling?". After a minute I decided that I have no idea what it is until I see it walking :/ |
| 11:34.39 | DeadZergling | then just playthrough it some to make sure it is working as intended |
| 11:34.56 | DeadZergling | I thought it was a giant ant head |
| 11:36.44 | DeadZergling | my biggest concern of course is the snake spawning being handled |
| 11:37.10 | DeadZergling | probably won't be too bad, but still, could be bad, lol |
| 11:40.17 | duckies | snakes ;/ |
| 11:57.47 | DeadZergling | wow do these take a long time to populate, lol |
| 12:02.52 | Zolden | yes, but short time to poopulate |
| 12:04.11 | Zolden | duckies lol, it's indeed has broodling impression |
| 12:04.34 | Zolden | it should walk in side direction to not give answers |
| 12:08.04 | duckies | =3 |
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| 12:54.54 | DeadZergling | yea, having this part come at this time at my level of tiredness, great plan... |
| 12:55.05 | DeadZergling | making sure all the work I put in works together, lol |
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| 13:01.43 | A1win | wtf why is my unit's death model scale smaller on bnet than on local test |
| 13:02.01 | A1win | sigh, crashed again |
| 13:03.23 | A1win | oh nvm forgot I changed model |
| 13:05.45 | A1win | but why does it crash ;_; |
| 13:20.45 | DeadZergling | I'll just be having everything that could possibly go wrong, go wrong over here, lol |
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| 13:52.30 | A1win | and so the eternal wait of a public playtest begins once again |
| 14:06.02 | A1win | anyone? o: |
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| 14:48.08 | A1win | played 1v1 against someone who I won by only using my weapons about 10% of the time and not aiming properly |
| 14:48.26 | A1win | really big skill differences in players I see |
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| 15:23.49 | Caz_Gaming | Deadzergling, are you ever not in here :P lol |
| 15:24.08 | DeadZergling | depends how bad I want something done on my project |
| 15:24.16 | DeadZergling | I imagine I'll dissapear for a good while after may 31st |
| 15:24.55 | Caz_Gaming | oh ? |
| 15:24.57 | Caz_Gaming | why's that ? |
| 15:25.13 | Caz_Gaming | And im starting to wonder if there's a bug with showing prepare times |
| 15:25.19 | Zolden | http://www.ted.com/talks/jane_mcgonigal_gaming_can_make_a_better_world |
| 15:25.23 | Caz_Gaming | if the ability is of the type Effect-Instant |
| 15:25.26 | DeadZergling | take a fucking break from the ridiculous amount of time I've spent on this |
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| 15:27.25 | pirate | ahoy |
| 15:30.05 | DeadZergling | gonna try to get a nap now anyways |
| 15:30.25 | DeadZergling | I'm sure area2 is still broken in some ways, but enough is enough |
| 15:37.40 | A1win | meh, again got 6 player game, 1 left instantly and then we played 3v2 which was horribly unbalanced |
| 15:39.49 | Zolden | it sounds like a drop |
| 15:39.58 | Zolden | if you wait alot, someone may drop at start |
| 15:40.29 | A1win | nah not instantly, a bit after it started |
| 15:40.41 | A1win | after he fell to a vortex |
| 15:40.42 | A1win | :P |
| 15:41.07 | A1win | another guy said something like "hahaha" "what the fuck map" but stayed until the end |
| 15:43.18 | Zolden | maybe "fuck" is a positive epithet |
| 15:43.40 | A1win | hehe hopefully |
| 15:45.47 | pirate | can you make functional AI that takes over if someone drops? |
| 15:45.55 | A1win | not easily |
| 15:46.15 | A1win | maybe I need to add some handicapping |
| 15:46.30 | pirate | can be tricky to balance |
| 15:46.35 | pirate | but better than nothing |
| 15:47.00 | A1win | so is AI :D |
| 15:47.08 | pirate | I wonder if reconnect support will come with heroes |
| 15:47.33 | pirate | have there been any strings pointing towards it? |
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| 16:06.39 | A1win | fuck, still crashing |
| 16:06.47 | pirate | hm, custom model that uses existing textures appears bright pink' |
| 16:07.02 | pirate | texture set by ID does not change it |
| 16:11.52 | pirate | anyone run into this/know a solution? |
| 16:25.23 | Zolden | either wrong path or you need to restart editor |
| 16:32.45 | pirate | restarting everything changes nothing-- model looks fine in editor but missing texture in game |
| 16:37.46 | Zolden | what model? u made it? |
| 16:45.07 | Ahli_ | pirate, change the ambient occlusion setting, unpause, then change it again |
| 16:45.13 | Ahli_ | it's a bug in sc2 |
| 16:46.11 | Ahli_ | afaIk it can only happen once with each custom model. after that, you will load correctly on that computer, afaIk |
| 16:47.25 | pirate | can't really get players to do that though |
| 16:47.43 | pirate | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/art-assets/66456-request-sword-from-the-stone-yet-another-simple-model/#p4 this model |
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| 16:48.57 | Zolden | pirate texture path may be not Assets/Textures |
| 16:49.01 | Zolden | try root |
| 16:49.19 | A1win | <.< found a trigger error from leaving game, hadn't noticed it before because well, I was just leaving game |
| 16:49.36 | A1win | but now I suddenly got a glimpse of it before the screen changed |
| 16:49.52 | A1win | let's hope that was it because it was a really stupid error ;p |
| 16:50.01 | A1win | tried accessing a negative array index |
| 16:50.09 | Zolden | ha |
| 16:50.12 | Zolden | noob |
| 16:50.35 | A1win | well I didn't know that the game makes player leaves events for other than actual players leaving :D |
| 16:50.57 | A1win | had to put a check to make sure the player is in active players before doing player leaves stuff |
| 16:52.52 | A1win | now let's see if that error even occurred before this refactoring... |
| 16:54.59 | A1win | yup <.< fingers crossed |
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| 17:03.31 | A1win | annoying that script errors don't show on bnet |
| 17:03.50 | A1win | even if "hide script errors on battle.net" flag is disabled |
| 17:14.30 | Zolden | nice, anticyclone came, no more fucking cold |
| 17:14.39 | Zolden | 7 months of cold ;/ |
| 17:16.01 | A1win | hehe ;p |
| 17:16.06 | A1win | now it's too hot ;< |
| 17:16.23 | A1win | more than 15 degrees is too hot |
| 17:16.42 | Zolden | you sound like a pinguin |
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| 17:38.57 | Bounty | peow |
| 17:54.36 | A1win | wonder if that blizz arcade night is happening, there's only 24 views on the thread on forums and no event posted for it on the bnet group |
| 17:55.06 | A1win | or maybe there's some other form of communication that I'm not aware of ;p |
| 17:55.49 | mille25 | isnt that typical for an arcade event? ;D |
| 17:55.59 | A1win | dunno, haven't been to them before |
| 18:01.44 | mille25 | me neither, but it never seemed to me that they got lots of attention |
| 18:01.58 | A1win | mm probably |
| 18:02.30 | A1win | well I only need 7 other players besides me :P |
| 18:02.39 | A1win | "only" |
| 18:03.00 | A1win | well, or just 5, considering the map is supposed to be playable with 6 players in the contest |
| 18:08.44 | pirate | 51 minutes to go |
| 18:08.51 | pirate | a couple people were in the group last I checked |
| 18:17.17 | A1win | yeh few players there |
| 18:26.25 | A1win | now there's more o: |
| 18:26.43 | pirate | not if I steal them for rogue star anthroplogical study |
| 18:58.54 | DeadZergling | what is the channel name anyawys |
| 18:58.57 | DeadZergling | *anyways |
| 19:09.59 | pirate | I don't get how map night works |
| 19:11.20 | DeadZergling | is kind of like the DMV when you getting your license |
| 19:11.24 | DeadZergling | you get a number |
| 19:11.26 | pirate | lol |
| 19:11.40 | DeadZergling | and you wait, only this one while waiting it helps if you help others test their maps |
| 19:11.57 | Bounty | II don't like that you're not guaranteed to get Blizz in your game DeadZergling |
| 19:12.00 | Bounty | lol |
| 19:12.11 | DeadZergling | you might be, Bounty :P |
| 19:12.42 | Bounty | Not so sure, they have not acknowledged me yet |
| 19:12.52 | Bounty | ^dat ego |
| 19:12.58 | pirate | I messaged one of them to add to list and they said 'yes okay!' |
| 19:13.15 | DeadZergling | apparently I should have showed up half an hour ago |
| 19:13.25 | Bounty | I'm just trying to do a stress test really |
| 19:13.29 | Bounty | no new version |
| 19:13.42 | Bounty | wanna see how the game performs with 6 ppl |
| 19:14.04 | DeadZergling | I'm near the back of the list with some terrible named map, looks like the guy was high when he named it |
| 19:14.22 | pirate | I just watch and see if people find all the hidden items so far and if they get stuck or not |
| 19:14.48 | Bounty | I'm only 2 spots ahead of you DeadZergling |
| 19:18.24 | pirate | oh yeah, end of the list |
| 19:23.00 | Bounty | Looks like they are not even playing the games DeadZergling and pirate |
| 19:23.06 | Bounty | just getting other ppl to join them |
| 19:23.13 | pirate | yeah |
| 19:23.19 | pirate | I snagged a guy from chat |
| 19:28.13 | duckies | huh, there is a list? :o |
| 19:30.12 | pirate | yeah |
| 19:30.57 | pirate | can someone do me a huge favor and message 'rut' from the chat channel that this is the last fight |
| 19:31.09 | pirate | I cant since observer mode |
| 19:31.31 | pirate | lol he died |
| 19:35.15 | duckies | can you link me to it |
| 19:35.19 | duckies | I like lists =D |
| 19:35.25 | duckies | or it's not available anywhere? |
| 19:35.35 | pirate | hm? |
| 19:35.47 | pirate | Arcade Night link to group on sidebar |
| 19:41.38 | Caz_Gaming | Question about galaxy script.... are the people using it downloading a 3rd party software to make it more friendly? Because the GUI seems way easier to use and more helpful when searching or remembering. |
| 19:53.36 | Merc | watching the guy on twitch play your game pirate |
| 19:53.45 | pirate | lol me too |
| 19:54.02 | pirate | he didnt figure out how to eviscerate forever |
| 19:54.05 | pirate | he's not reading at all |
| 19:54.23 | pirate | his friend knows whats up though |
| 19:54.25 | Merc | it's your responsobility! |
| 19:54.35 | Merc | always blame the designer for the user messing up |
| 19:54.54 | DeadZergling | Hey Merc, have been looking for you, lol |
| 19:54.58 | Merc | but yea he's probably just half heartedly trying it |
| 19:55.05 | Merc | hey DeadZergling |
| 19:55.41 | Merc | been a bit busy today, havent done much on your tutorial screen |
| 19:55.52 | Merc | gonna play d3 with the gf now |
| 19:55.56 | DeadZergling | that's fine, just have an update... |
| 19:56.00 | Merc | but lay it on me, I'll read later |
| 19:56.01 | DeadZergling | dunno if you heard |
| 19:56.11 | Merc | I'll read up |
| 19:56.14 | DeadZergling | but I was told i had to change names due to CR BS |
| 19:56.33 | DeadZergling | anyways, B.F.G. is now D.E.A.T.H. gun, and quad damage is now quint damage, lol |
| 19:56.51 | Merc | B.M.F.G |
| 19:56.53 | Merc | got it |
| 19:57.23 | DeadZergling | well, I had to change name of game to Death TV |
| 19:57.36 | DeadZergling | so now that fits with it better, and I don't want to hear about CR again... |
| 20:03.48 | Bounty | rofl |
| 20:03.51 | Bounty | Quint Damage? |
| 20:09.01 | DeadZergling | What, you prefer SeptaVigint damage? |
| 20:24.19 | DeadZergling | that was fun, seeing my name pop up twice as much as anyone else in tessera |
| 20:24.21 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 20:29.37 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:29.59 | Bounty | 6 ppl felt good DeadZergling |
| 20:30.03 | Bounty | wonder if I could push it to 8 |
| 20:30.09 | Bounty | for CTF games and larger maps |
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| 20:30.41 | DeadZergling | don't see why not |
| 20:31.04 | DeadZergling | sigh, hope everyone isn't leaving just in time for it to be my map's turn, lol |
| 20:31.11 | pirate | I wannted to play tessera |
| 20:31.15 | pirate | sc2 frenzy is silly |
| 20:35.12 | duckies | silly dz, you can always summon me if you need more testers and more nitpicking =D |
| 20:35.46 | DeadZergling | indeed, but I'm trying to play by blizz's rules, lol |
| 20:35.55 | DeadZergling | mine is coming up soon, area 2 is in |
| 20:37.11 | duckies | oh no, I'll be in a game for next 20 minutes D: |
| 20:37.19 | pirate | I cheated :( |
| 20:37.19 | pirate | Im free |
| 20:38.34 | DeadZergling | lol, how did you cheat |
| 20:38.48 | pirate | PMd the streaming guy to test |
| 20:38.57 | pirate | since I only need one player |
| 20:39.28 | pirate | and being able to hear him talk is nicer than just observer mode |
| 20:41.24 | pirate | start lobby and invite me DZ |
| 20:41.25 | pirate | ! |
| 20:43.18 | DeadZergling | invite sent pirate |
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| 20:47.00 | pirate | why internet, why |
| 20:53.26 | duckies | noo, I missed it |
| 20:53.31 | duckies | oh the sadness |
| 20:54.47 | pirate | it's not letting me join lobbies |
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| 21:22.34 | Caz_Gaming | Hey deadzergling,, duckies.. either of ya know how to have unit leave a resurrectable/clickable corpse ? |
| 21:59.15 | duckies | other than faking death, nope |
| 22:12.06 | ArcanePariah | Caz_Gaming, set the deathtime of the unit to a positive value |
| 22:12.46 | ArcanePariah | Deathtime is how long the unit hangs around in dead state before being removed by the game |
| 22:12.49 | Caz_Gaming | ArcanePariah, it's set to -1 |
| 22:12.53 | Caz_Gaming | for "forever" |
| 22:12.57 | Caz_Gaming | needs to be positive ? |
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| 22:13.34 | ArcanePariah | Hmm... dunno if negative values work or not, never tried that. I'm going to assume it would not since it would cause the game to use up resources without limit and eventually crash it. |
| 22:14.18 | ArcanePariah | I would just set it to a positive value, just set it something reall large |
| 22:14.21 | ArcanePariah | like 50000 |
| 22:17.32 | yearatenhellespo | has there been any news on server side banks in 2.2? |
| 22:18.02 | mille25 | yearatenhellespo: Nothing. |
| 22:18.26 | ArcanePariah | Other then they are coming, no. But it can be strongly assumed they are coming since they did indicate they are working on them and also (IMO) they are necessary for Storm. |
| 22:19.06 | ArcanePariah | I'm going assume they need to sort out some logistics to them, and make sure they can't be abused |
| 22:19.17 | ArcanePariah | Especially with Storm |
| 22:19.59 | yearatenhellespo | is it known whether they would replace client banks, or would it be separate? |
| 22:20.21 | ArcanePariah | Even though it was a while ago, Dustin Browder explicitly stated Storm will have modding, the main obstacle they had to figure out was how to properly filter garbage maps (Porn, Nazi, etc.), given it will be F2P |
| 22:20.33 | ArcanePariah | So banning does nothing, as opposed to SC2 |
| 22:25.33 | Caz_Gaming | arcanepariah - setting death time on zealot to 54321 he still just poofs when he dies |
| 22:25.36 | Caz_Gaming | no corpse |
| 22:27.08 | Caz_Gaming | rather |
| 22:27.11 | Caz_Gaming | 5432* |
| 22:29.23 | yearatenhellespo | what are you trying to do? |
| 22:29.36 | Caz_Gaming | Cause a corpse to be left on the ground after unit death |
| 22:29.42 | Caz_Gaming | Zealots just "poof" when they die |
| 22:30.12 | yearatenhellespo | poof as in instantly disappear, or poof as in the death animation? |
| 22:30.39 | Caz_Gaming | death animation in tact |
| 22:30.42 | Caz_Gaming | just no corpse |
| 22:30.48 | Caz_Gaming | such as when medic dies |
| 22:30.51 | Caz_Gaming | animation -- then corpse |
| 22:30.59 | yearatenhellespo | i don't believe they have a corpse animation/model |
| 22:31.08 | Caz_Gaming | :I |
| 22:31.22 | yearatenhellespo | unless you've found something you're trying to use for it's corpse? |
| 22:32.54 | Caz_Gaming | I havent |
| 22:32.58 | Caz_Gaming | wouldnt know how to do that |
| 22:33.07 | yearatenhellespo | you could try a combination of actors, like a zealot model that lays face down with blue blood and sinks into the ground |
| 22:33.10 | Caz_Gaming | altho if there was a spirit/ghost-like actor in the game |
| 22:33.17 | Caz_Gaming | i wouldnt mind somehowl inking to be the corpse for all dieing heroes |
| 22:33.39 | Caz_Gaming | i have no idea how to do what u said a moment ago |
| 22:33.47 | Caz_Gaming | about making a zealot model and sinks etc etc |
| 22:33.58 | yearatenhellespo | you want the corpse to stay until revived, correct? |
| 22:34.01 | Caz_Gaming | Ay |
| 22:34.03 | Caz_Gaming | Aye* |
| 22:34.10 | yearatenhellespo | i'm assuming you'd like to go about this using triggers? |
| 22:34.12 | ArcanePariah | Caz_Gaming, when a Unit dies, another actor is created in its place that handles death animation. |
| 22:34.29 | ArcanePariah | In the zealot case, it sounds like it is playing a one shot animation then destroying itself. |
| 22:34.30 | Caz_Gaming | no year |
| 22:34.30 | yearatenhellespo | or data? |
| 22:34.46 | Caz_Gaming | there is respawn/revival with triggers |
| 22:34.47 | Caz_Gaming | and a data portion |
| 22:34.52 | Caz_Gaming | will be making a resurrection spell |
| 22:34.57 | Caz_Gaming | that needs to target the body |
| 22:35.01 | Caz_Gaming | corpse* |
| 22:36.19 | yearatenhellespo | i can't give you a data only solution, but i'd make the corpse it's own unit that's used to trigger the revive |
| 22:36.29 | A1win | woo re factored weapons code for better implementation of aoe dmg, and now magnet mines create a small aoe explosion |
| 22:37.05 | yearatenhellespo | sorry, do you plan on using just zealot corpses or other units too? |
| 22:37.21 | Caz_Gaming | many others |
| 22:38.33 | yearatenhellespo | do you want them to be the bloody corpses that are default, or just their regular models laying down in blood? |
| 22:39.29 | yearatenhellespo | just wondering if consistency is important, as the makeshift zealot corpse may be in a different 'style' than the default |
| 22:39.29 | Caz_Gaming | doesnt really matter |
| 22:39.43 | Caz_Gaming | as long as there is corpses but blood is more interesting lol |
| 22:40.32 | Caz_Gaming | if there is a ghost-like unit/actor i wouldnt mind just using that |
| 22:40.41 | Caz_Gaming | as long as i can somehow link to the correct unit to revive |
| 22:41.10 | yearatenhellespo | i would say, when your a hero dies, place a placeholder corpse unit there, attach a site ops rotation, attach the model of the dying unit to it, so that it lays down, and attach a blood model, and kill that unit when revived |
| 22:42.30 | Caz_Gaming | how would i revive the correct unit tho |
| 22:42.34 | yearatenhellespo | that way they'll all be in the same 'style' but it would look less polished than using their default death models. also, don't they disappear anyway? i don't know if there's something you can do about that |
| 22:42.35 | Caz_Gaming | when im targetting a placeholder unit |
| 22:43.15 | yearatenhellespo | does it have to be a specific unit (the information in the unit, abilities learned, behaviors etc.) or just the unit type? |
| 22:43.29 | Caz_Gaming | has to be specific revival |
| 22:43.36 | Caz_Gaming | so the unit can retain all the things abov |
| 22:43.37 | Caz_Gaming | above* |
| 22:44.47 | yearatenhellespo | i would have a counter (integer) variable that increases each time a unit dies, and an arrayed unit variable. when a unit dies, increase the counter by one, and assign the arrayed unit variable at the index of the counter to the triggering unit when that unit dies |
| 22:45.01 | yearatenhellespo | not sure if i'm over-complicating it |
| 22:45.39 | Caz_Gaming | Hmmm i think a data solution might be... |
| 22:45.43 | yearatenhellespo | also assign the counter's value to a custom value on the unit. in data, the death storage time thing needs to be set to -1 so that a unit can be revived non instantly |
| 22:45.48 | Caz_Gaming | based on what you've suggested... |
| 22:46.21 | yearatenhellespo | are you saying you're more interested in a data solution now, or less? |
| 22:47.12 | Caz_Gaming | Hero dies -> spawn placeholder unit/actor corpse.......Cast revival on placeholder..... Placeholder dies (on death effect) -> Search area at point of unit for any unit thats not self and revive it. |
| 22:47.26 | Caz_Gaming | there is no trigger solution |
| 22:47.33 | Caz_Gaming | thati know of when it has to be based on casting a revival spell |
| 22:48.13 | yearatenhellespo | ehh, you'd just make an ability than has to be cast on a unit type and have a trigger with an event when that spell is cast |
| 22:48.22 | yearatenhellespo | but a data solution is fine, i just hope i've helped |
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| 22:49.58 | Caz_Gaming | Mhhh you have... whether its data or triggers... the easiest method seems to revive closest unit to the placeholder unit hovering over it.-- Any suggestions for a "ghostly" actor ? |
| 22:50.05 | Caz_Gaming | And thanks :3 |
| 22:51.18 | Caz_Gaming | I think letting the default death animation play and just having a ghost hover there to represetn a corpse would be slick enough. Have it fade into view after death or some jazz. Just need good model |
| 22:53.40 | yearatenhellespo | you could use the model of the dying unit and set it to .5 opacity and tint blue... not that i would know anything about doing that in data |
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| 23:12.40 | moonEater916 | ;p;z |
| 23:12.41 | moonEater916 | lolz |
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| 23:36.12 | A1win | nooo, still crashing |
| 23:36.24 | A1win | thought I nailed it with fixing the script error on quit :< |
| 23:36.29 | Zolden | dDo crashed for me too ;/ |
| 23:36.40 | Zolden | but made a ship with it http://i.snag.gy/CMFVU.jpg |
| 23:38.55 | unclesatan | nice lookin craft there |
| 23:39.10 | unclesatan | did you manage to slap my spacecraft into your engine? |
| 23:39.21 | Zolden | not yet, and now I go sleep |
| 23:39.24 | Zolden | will do it tomorrow |
| 23:39.30 | unclesatan | ah cool, just curious to see how well it exported |
| 23:39.43 | unclesatan | good ngiht |
| 23:39.51 | Zolden | gn |
| 23:45.49 | Caz_Gaming | deadzergling do u use a 3rd party program to make galaxy easier to use? with syntax highlights, autocompletes, and tooltips etc etc |
| 23:45.59 | Caz_Gaming | all the comforts of normal IDE |
| 23:48.39 | unclesatan | I do |
| 23:48.52 | unclesatan | I use Notepad ++ and a syntaxhighlighter/autocompleter plugin for it |
| 23:49.19 | Caz | u prefer it over the GUI ?? |
| 23:49.25 | unclesatan | by far |
| 23:49.29 | Caz | whyfore? |
| 23:49.46 | unclesatan | because i can alter the background of it so that it's easier on my eyes |
| 23:49.51 | unclesatan | and |
| 23:50.23 | unclesatan | the GUI has some issues when you're typing things out, i can't remember them by now but it annoyed me to use the script editor |
| 23:50.43 | Caz | theoretically u'd never need to use the script editor |
| 23:50.56 | unclesatan | oh you mean by using triggers and such? |
| 23:51.01 | Caz | ya |
| 23:51.03 | unclesatan | i hate clicking and i can type very fast |
| 23:51.07 | Caz | ah |
| 23:51.14 | unclesatan | nothing annoys me more than clicking through 1000 dropdown boxes lol |
| 23:51.20 | unclesatan | plus i can write my own functions |
| 23:51.22 | Caz | u don't forget like.. function parameters? |
| 23:51.32 | unclesatan | after a while you remember all the ones you use |
| 23:51.40 | Caz | u can make ur own functions with gui, just fyi |
| 23:51.43 | unclesatan | and notepad ++ has autocomplete |
| 23:52.04 | unclesatan | i know i can, but i can write a for loop in like 10 seconds |
| 23:52.10 | Caz | lol true |
| 23:52.24 | unclesatan | it's overall faster and i don't have to touch the mouse nearly ever |
| 23:53.00 | Caz | i guess i might prefer it if... there was a tooltip like in MSVC++ ... so when i start a function like toUpper( |
| 23:53.13 | Caz | it would show a tooltip that says "char parameter" |
| 23:53.19 | Caz | so i know it taeks a char data type |
| 23:53.25 | unclesatan | well here let me show you how notepad ++ functions |
| 23:53.28 | unclesatan | i'll give yo a screenshot |
| 23:53.31 | Caz | Sure |
| 23:54.59 | unclesatan | http://i.imgur.com/yAEMcpO.png?1 |
| 23:55.13 | unclesatan | the only thing i don't like about it is the plugin is outddated |
| 23:55.18 | Caz | oh man |
| 23:55.20 | unclesatan | so i have to update it with all the new functions blizz added int he last couple patches |
| 23:55.22 | Caz | u gotta show me how to set that up :P |
| 23:55.37 | unclesatan | yeah for sure |
| 23:55.58 | Caz | it makes me feel all nostalgic just lookin at it lol |
| 23:56.02 | unclesatan | iv'e mostly been doing models for my map but i'll do my best to remember how the heck to put it all together |
| 23:56.09 | unclesatan | go download notepad ++ first |
| 23:56.12 | unclesatan | and i'll try to find the plugin |
| 23:56.20 | unclesatan | like i said though it will be missing a few of the newer functions |
| 23:56.28 | Caz | what were u doing in galaxy that isnt triggers? |
| 23:56.36 | Caz | since u didnt assume triggers at first |
| 23:57.08 | unclesatan | i started the map knowing i was going to galaxyscript |
| 23:57.14 | unclesatan | i've done all character abilities in script |
| 23:57.18 | unclesatan | and all the interface |
| 23:57.19 | unclesatan | and all the AI |
| 23:58.09 | unclesatan | but i only did the terrain without gscript |
| 23:58.21 | unclesatan | basically was teaching myself better programming logic |
