| 00:00.18 | Obscene | hmm considering creating a small project :/ |
| 00:04.38 | Obscene | I'm going to name my first kid after you fisker! |
| 00:04.48 | Obscene | His name will be... Fisker the great |
| 00:05.16 | Ahli | "Throws a knife ricocheting towards multiple foes." is that proper English? |
| 00:05.25 | Obscene | no |
| 00:05.30 | Obscene | It needs a pronoun or a noun |
| 00:05.35 | Obscene | Who is throwing the knife? |
| 00:05.42 | Obscene | it's an incomplete sentence |
| 00:05.57 | Ahli | apart from that... it's a skill description in D2's style |
| 00:06.25 | Ahli | "a knife ricocheting towards multiple foes" k or not k? |
| 00:06.26 | Obscene | Ah, I would suggest writing it as, "Throw a knife that ricochets towards multiple foes." |
| 00:06.59 | pirate | what is purpose of saving a camera to file? |
| 00:07.10 | Ahli | k, thx |
| 00:16.02 | DeadZergling | pirate, I imagine so you could use that camera in other maps, or so you don't accidentally overwrite it or delete it in that current project |
| 00:16.09 | pirate | hm |
| 00:18.18 | DeadZergling | in fact, I should save my cameras when I get home tonight |
| 00:18.26 | DeadZergling | so I don't fuckem over on accident sometime, lol |
| 00:33.00 | Obscene | lol |
| 00:37.43 | Obscene | Man I am tempted to create a TPB rpg, but I know blizzard would never allow it |
| 00:37.52 | Obscene | It would require growing dope, selling it to other players, etc |
| 00:38.09 | DeadZergling | tpb? |
| 00:39.27 | Obscene | Trailer Park Boys |
| 00:39.33 | Obscene | Greatest show ever created. |
| 00:39.40 | Obscene | Drinkin, growing weed, etc |
| 00:40.04 | Ahli | drinking, brewing stimpacks |
| 00:40.06 | DeadZergling | oddly enough, you finding that show to be the best ever doesn't surprise me in any way. |
| 00:40.43 | Obscene | haha |
| 00:41.00 | Obscene | I grow up between the hood and the trailer park, right in the center.. |
| 00:41.02 | Obscene | The show is spot on |
| 00:41.49 | DeadZergling | what exactly is between a hood and a trailer park, lol |
| 00:42.18 | Obscene | The top of the hill lol |
| 00:42.25 | Obscene | In our case a 2 story blue house |
| 00:42.45 | Obscene | That recently was burnt to the ground by the town. :( I loved living at that place, good times |
| 00:42.50 | Obscene | Always something fun going down |
| 00:42.53 | Obscene | rarely legal |
| 00:43.09 | DeadZergling | true, but bet you had access to some pretty cheap whores |
| 00:43.51 | Obscene | Ew, I am good. I keep my wick outta that part of the world lol |
| 00:44.03 | Obscene | The house was cheap, and my dad grew up around there thats why we lived there |
| 00:44.05 | Obscene | still fun though |
| 00:44.18 | DeadZergling | you aren't denying my statement, you know |
| 00:44.55 | Obscene | Access? Sure. Also you needed was $10 at the train tracks. However them some dirty ass hoes, and I am good... |
| 00:45.24 | Obscene | $20 at the train tracks would buy you a brand new xbox 360 when it first came out lol, damn crackheads |
| 00:46.58 | DeadZergling | good, such a relative term :P |
| 00:47.20 | Obscene | I'm good, as in, I'm good man I don't need that shit |
| 00:48.00 | DeadZergling | ah okay, that I can agree with, lol |
| 00:48.03 | Obscene | Supposed to be moving in 2 more weeks, hope this shit works out Ill have a 50 hour a week job |
| 00:48.08 | DeadZergling | so saw you decided to post evo frenzy |
| 00:48.22 | Obscene | yeah I posted it to the arcade contest |
| 00:48.48 | Obscene | going to get this damn job, and get me a part time job on the side... going to be working 70 hour work weeks for a while |
| 00:48.58 | DeadZergling | 50 hours a week huh, sounds like a lot of work |
| 00:49.12 | Obscene | not really 40-50 is a normal full time job |
| 00:49.17 | DeadZergling | and why do you need to work that much? |
| 00:49.28 | Obscene | Because $10 an hour isn't shit lol |
| 00:49.39 | Obscene | Plus I want to get a car, computer and save up for a house |
| 00:50.01 | Obscene | I am considering just getting a second fulltime job and going a full 100 hours a week, I know i can do it... but damn thats going to be a bitch |
| 00:50.34 | DeadZergling | could you know, do 1 full time job |
| 00:50.42 | DeadZergling | and look for a better paying job in the meantime :P |
| 00:51.28 | Obscene | I could... but that's not my style haha |
| 00:51.36 | Obscene | I plan on doing that too while working my ass off |
| 00:51.39 | DeadZergling | or just put in overtime at that job, as it pays more for less than having 2 |
| 00:52.20 | Obscene | If my math is correc tand I get lucky I can work a first shift and third shift job sleeping during a second shift timeslot(3-11) |
| 00:52.51 | DeadZergling | so, what state should I watch for a headline of '(STATE NAME HERE) Man kills everyone after working 2 full time jobs for 4 months) |
| 00:52.57 | Obscene | haha |
| 00:53.18 | Obscene | Dude, you would be REALLY surprised at how happy of a person I can be just keeping busy. I find interest in nearly anything universally. |
| 00:53.29 | Obscene | I spent 3 months researching economics just for the hell of it |
| 00:53.44 | Obscene | I only get miserable when I am bored |
| 00:53.49 | Obscene | Work doesn't bore me |
| 00:53.53 | DeadZergling | seems you need to study them more, working 2 full time jobs is not a sane thing to do |
| 00:54.15 | Obscene | Nothing I do would be something you should consider sane |
| 00:54.21 | Obscene | If I am going to do something I am doing it all in |
| 00:54.28 | Bounty | pow |
| 00:54.33 | DeadZergling | hi Bounty |
| 00:54.38 | Bounty | Hello |
| 00:54.44 | Obscene | slaps bounty with a trout filled with lemons |
| 00:54.50 | Bounty | >.< |
| 00:55.05 | Obscene | Sorry, had to tenderize it |
| 00:55.08 | DeadZergling | Obscene thinks he is gonna work 2 full time jobs and be happy about it |
| 00:55.27 | Obscene | 1 full time 1 part time, and considering just making it 2 full time jobs |
| 00:55.47 | Obscene | It's only an 80 hour work week |
| 00:55.58 | Obscene | and one of the jobs is automatically a customer service job |
| 00:56.08 | Obscene | So it's not like it's going to be tiring work |
| 00:56.19 | Obscene | Customer service/networking for companies, not for dumbasses |
| 00:56.50 | Bounty | Some people can do that type of stuff easily DeadZergling |
| 00:56.50 | Obscene | 1200 rent is a pain in the ass, and if I just work a full time job I will be screwed I will have a total of $21 before gas or insurance |
| 00:57.02 | DeadZergling | Well, have fun with that... I feel it is a case of you thinking you know what you want to do... |
| 00:57.07 | DeadZergling | but have fun! |
| 00:57.07 | Bounty | Where do you live Obscene? |
| 00:57.18 | Obscene | Meh, I'll do it, and if I can't do it i iwll quit |
| 00:57.21 | Obscene | North Carolina |
| 00:57.31 | Bounty | I thought NC was cheap? |
| 00:57.40 | Bounty | What are you renting? |
| 00:57.41 | Obscene | we are renting a 3 bedroom house |
| 00:57.45 | Bounty | ah |
| 00:57.46 | Obscene | my little brother and I |
| 00:57.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:57.54 | Bounty | damn, thats cheap as shit |
| 00:58.01 | Obscene | 1200 is the higher end here |
| 00:58.02 | DeadZergling | is your little brother helping at all? |
| 00:58.03 | Bounty | <-- jelly |
| 00:58.14 | Obscene | for a single person 250-450 is average |
| 00:58.21 | Obscene | and for 2 bed it;s about 400-600 |
| 00:58.28 | Obscene | 3 bed can range from 700-1200 |
| 00:58.35 | Obscene | yeah hes splitting the bills |
| 00:58.37 | DeadZergling | so, let me get t his straight |
| 00:58.46 | DeadZergling | it is for 2 people |
| 00:58.58 | DeadZergling | and somehow, you need a deluxe high end 3 bedroom house? |
| 00:59.15 | Bounty | He never said it was a deluxe high end house lol |
| 00:59.16 | Obscene | I have an older brother who is staying with us for 3 months |
| 00:59.22 | Obscene | It's a decent house |
| 00:59.25 | DeadZergling | he did say it was higher end |
| 00:59.33 | Bounty | oh |
| 00:59.54 | Obscene | we don't techincally have a place to rent right now, however they range from 700-1200 and I ALWAYS do my math on the higher end of the scale |
| 01:00.02 | DeadZergling | just you could be staying at a 600 2 bedroom, getting educated so you can make even more money |
| 01:00.04 | Bounty | eh, I wouldn't work 2 jobs to pay for something that I will barely enjoy |
| 01:00.08 | DeadZergling | but instead you want to do that? |
| 01:00.10 | Bounty | thats just me though |
| 01:00.12 | Obscene | Well I plan on getting educated too :P |
| 01:00.30 | DeadZergling | oh, you are going to be |
| 01:00.32 | Obscene | the extra job will be a bullshit job where I am pretty much manning a gas station or something |
| 01:00.32 | Bounty | saving money is fun Obscene =P |
| 01:00.39 | DeadZergling | reality of working at all times is gonna hit really hard |
| 01:00.44 | Obscene | something where I have access to a computer |
| 01:01.00 | Obscene | Yeah I know, bu tI hate sitting at hom ewith a passion, and I hate doing a lot of things other people find fun |
| 01:01.18 | DeadZergling | yea, relaxing and enjoying life sometimes |
| 01:01.22 | DeadZergling | it isn't for everyone |
| 01:01.25 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:01.28 | Obscene | I am going to work the single fulltime job for 1 month and see if I can handle more or not |
| 01:01.31 | DeadZergling | some people need to ask if I want fries with that |
| 01:01.35 | Obscene | lawl |
| 01:01.43 | DeadZergling | and then deal with me spilling my soda all over at a gas station after I'm done at McDonald's |
| 01:01.58 | Obscene | Gas station was used as an example |
| 01:02.01 | Obscene | not an actuality |
| 01:02.09 | DeadZergling | and I decided to have fun with that example |
| 01:02.16 | Obscene | lol |
| 01:02.28 | DeadZergling | you see my dancing crow yet Obscene ? |
| 01:02.28 | Bounty | DeadZergling confessed he barely does anything at his job so ignore him Obscene >.< |
| 01:02.34 | Obscene | nope |
| 01:02.38 | Obscene | hah |
| 01:02.51 | Obscene | I tend to overwork at a job :/ last time it screwed me over... |
| 01:02.59 | DeadZergling | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m59B0M_7xWo |
| 01:03.08 | Obscene | I ran out of work that was supposed to last a month and my boss had nothing for me so he sent me home for long periods of time.. |
| 01:03.10 | Obscene | fucking dick |
| 01:03.11 | DeadZergling | barely do anything at my job is a matter of thinking about it |
| 01:03.24 | Obscene | I ran out of work after 3 days :/ |
| 01:03.27 | DeadZergling | I figured out how to turn long jobs into short ones, so I find other things to do while I'm here |
| 01:03.28 | Bounty | Hard work gets you nowhere, its mostly about your personality and how much you connect with your superiors. |
| 01:04.00 | Bounty | Unless you own your own business or something |
| 01:04.06 | Obscene | lol |
| 01:04.17 | Bounty | then you kinda have to work hard or you end up in a van down by the river |
| 01:04.18 | Obscene | Yeah, I dont want to run my own business right now lol |
| 01:04.18 | Bounty | ..< |
| 01:04.41 | Obscene | I also want to save money so I can afford to hire a couple of people to build a marketing website |
| 01:04.41 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, one of your eyes seems off Bounty |
| 01:04.55 | Bounty | yeah... just a tad |
| 01:05.33 | Obscene | Unless any of you want to work with a jackass in exachage for a stake in the company that it could start |
| 01:06.05 | Obscene | The idea is pretty solid though, however very ambitious and could be pretty difficult |
| 01:07.06 | Bounty | Testing begins May 12th DeadZergling |
| 01:07.23 | DeadZergling | May the 4th + 8 be with you! |
| 01:07.25 | Bounty | fingers crossed I can actually find peoples |
| 01:07.28 | Obscene | you hear that deadzergling? Bounty is going to let you test out his new lady parts on may12th. he just had them installed |
| 01:07.41 | Obscene | Hes very proud |
| 01:08.08 | DeadZergling | you'd have an easier time finding people the 9th or 10th |
| 01:10.19 | Obscene | I am considering making a warcraft 2 game... how hard is it to place sprites in starcraft 2 |
| 01:10.49 | unclesatan | i saw someone use carbots sprites and animate them |
| 01:10.54 | unclesatan | i'd find that person and ask them how they did it |
| 01:10.59 | Obscene | yeah I think that was Bommes |
| 01:11.05 | Obscene | he did that about 5 months ago |
| 01:11.13 | Obscene | I think he just added them to an invisible model though |
| 01:12.44 | DeadZergling | bleh, I hate searching for music |
| 01:12.48 | DeadZergling | means I gotta turn mine off |
| 01:13.11 | DeadZergling | thought I'd pick a tune that matches my crow's dancing |
| 01:13.53 | Obscene | I know just the tune you need... |
| 01:14.15 | Obscene | gimema sec lemme find it |
| 01:14.25 | Obscene | http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1iwyf_merrie-melodies-two-crows-from-taco_fun |
| 01:14.28 | Obscene | Theres the classic |
| 01:15.06 | Obscene | Past that I suggest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49EoV50oba0 deadzergling |
| 01:17.12 | DeadZergling | amusing, but think many would miss that joke |
| 01:17.45 | Obscene | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jewtYBvP-_0 you could always go with that |
| 01:18.13 | DeadZergling | are you the one in the middle Obscene ? |
| 01:18.22 | Obscene | hah |
| 01:18.25 | Obscene | Bubbles is da man |
| 01:18.40 | Obscene | If you haven't seen TPB i HIGHLY suggest you watch it. |
| 01:18.46 | Obscene | it's the funniest show I have ever seen |
| 01:19.20 | DeadZergling | I was actually listenign to some Reggae |
| 01:19.28 | DeadZergling | see if any of that fit the crow's dancing |
| 01:19.54 | Obscene | You need to just go with Liquor and whores... it's classic music |
| 01:22.57 | Obscene | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjUPGEQIIfQ |
| 01:24.26 | Obscene | TPB, the only good thing to ever come out of canada... That's right I like it so much I am willing to praise canada for it... it's that good |
| 01:24.53 | DeadZergling | here's the thing, I never heard of it until now |
| 01:24.57 | DeadZergling | I have heard of Bieber |
| 01:25.36 | Obscene | :(, yeah I know |
| 01:25.54 | Vailreth | and now i am here |
| 01:26.09 | Obscene | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldoT2mHubGE that's what to expect |
| 01:26.14 | Obscene | Hey Vailreth |
| 01:27.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Caz (329ebbca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.158.187.202) |
| 01:27.19 | Caz | Hey fellaz |
| 01:27.42 | Obscene | Hey Catz |
| 01:28.06 | Caz | Caz* :p |
| 01:28.16 | Obscene | Catz you are just going to have to accept the name... |
| 01:28.35 | Caz | Lol |
| 01:28.58 | Obscene | Is it bad that I backed Shaq Fu 2? |
| 01:29.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lajjla (~nevzets@unaffiliated/nevzets) |
| 01:29.10 | Obscene | It looks pretty fun |
| 01:29.22 | Caz | carried the name Caz abbreviated from Cazicss since 2006 |
| 01:29.25 | Caz | xD |
| 01:29.41 | DeadZergling | Cazic Thule, God of Terror |
| 01:29.42 | Obscene | Well in 2014 the great taintedwisp decided your name is now Catz |
| 01:29.47 | Caz | Dead Zergling :O |
| 01:29.50 | Caz | u are correct |
| 01:29.57 | Caz | I was |
| 01:30.00 | Obscene | Taintedwisp is from 1995 so it superceeds your name |
| 01:30.00 | Caz | Cazicss Keeperofsouls |
| 01:30.10 | DeadZergling | Who unfortunately keeps getting respawned since the plane of fear version got too lame |
| 01:30.16 | Caz | lol |
| 01:30.44 | Caz | i still have characters on ct server |
| 01:30.49 | DeadZergling | a good one, although I always preferred Innoruuk |
| 01:30.56 | Caz | i cant stand the mercs and boxing these days |
| 01:31.06 | Caz | EQ allowing multi instance play is derpy |
| 01:31.10 | Obscene | I dunno what you guys are talking about |
| 01:31.14 | DeadZergling | I left entirely a few months back after the nerf to SK 2.0s |
| 01:31.17 | DeadZergling | that was it for me |
| 01:31.21 | Caz | LOL |
| 01:31.22 | Caz | sk so op |
| 01:31.39 | Caz | u want to talk about nerfs |
| 01:31.44 | Caz | what they did to wizard |
| 01:31.45 | Obscene | ohh everquest |
| 01:31.46 | Caz | was rediculous |
| 01:32.02 | DeadZergling | not my problem any more, I left for good |
| 01:32.04 | DeadZergling | even sold my SK off |
| 01:32.13 | Caz | aside from all the nerfs to wiz 2.0 |
| 01:32.21 | Caz | im 99% sure the epic 2.0 doesnt actually do anything |
| 01:32.30 | Caz | and if it does.. the resist check system is fucked |
| 01:32.44 | DeadZergling | here is the thing, the SK class has been built around their epic since they got it in OoW |
| 01:32.57 | DeadZergling | nerfing that after all this time was a HUGE slap in the face |
| 01:33.07 | Caz | SK still best tank in game. |
| 01:33.19 | DeadZergling | well yes I was that :P |
| 01:33.23 | Caz | lol |
| 01:33.33 | DeadZergling | but no point in sticking around to see how they nerf me next |
| 01:33.37 | DeadZergling | rather be making my own games |
| 01:33.44 | Caz | My friend is 100sk with my 100wiz ... and i agree with u |
| 01:33.49 | Obscene | < Too poor for EQ had to play runescape |
| 01:33.57 | Obscene | runescape = poor mans EQ |
| 01:34.07 | DeadZergling | SK is a wiz's best friend |
| 01:34.27 | DeadZergling | keep agro so they can nuke to all hell and back |
| 01:34.48 | Caz | i can still get aggro :3 |
| 01:35.00 | DeadZergling | well sure, chain cast the right nuke non-stop |
| 01:35.06 | DeadZergling | is no way to outdo that, lol |
| 01:35.26 | DeadZergling | at least, consistently |
| 01:35.44 | Caz | aye |
| 01:35.44 | DeadZergling | on a 1 mob per 30-40 secs basis |
| 01:35.56 | Caz | @DZ - do u have starcraft 2 ? |
| 01:35.58 | DeadZergling | much easier to just pull 5 at once |
| 01:36.09 | Caz | answer = yes |
| 01:36.10 | Caz | EQ = gone |
| 01:36.13 | Caz | bwaahaha |
| 01:36.22 | DeadZergling | my character name on EQ was DZ |
| 01:37.04 | Caz | Been naggin my friend to learn this editor with me. He makes me do the grunt work and baby feed him answers >:( |
| 01:37.22 | Caz | i sit around asking u questions.. search forums .. tutorials.. test shit |
| 01:37.36 | Caz | then condense to a 1hr lesson lol |
| 01:37.59 | DeadZergling | I see, yea my RPG project in a lot of ways is my rejection of EQ |
| 01:38.07 | DeadZergling | I came back to it a few times, but I've had it now, lol |
| 01:38.18 | Obscene | Caz you new to the editor? |
| 01:38.23 | Caz | Yes |
| 01:38.45 | Caz | toyed with it before, but still fairly new |
| 01:38.48 | Obscene | I would suggest not starting anything too terribly large, but deff learn the editor |
| 01:38.49 | DeadZergling | btw, me saying I was the best tank, I was superior to other SKs too |
| 01:38.58 | DeadZergling | I was/am rather prideful of that still. |
| 01:39.06 | Obscene | form what I understand Heroes of the storm is going to be the next platform for the arcade |
| 01:39.14 | Obscene | and I don't know if Sc2 maps will be transferrable |
| 01:39.23 | Caz | huh ? |
| 01:40.08 | Obscene | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/evo-frenzy/ you can use that if you wan't something to use as an example as to how to do many things |
| 01:40.42 | DeadZergling | like make Bangarang models! |
| 01:40.51 | Obscene | Actually... yes |
| 01:40.52 | Obscene | lol |
| 01:41.18 | Obscene | Show show to do attachments, texture select, make full heroes, etc. |
| 01:42.28 | Caz | i like explained tutorials more than random maps to dig thru :s |
| 01:42.33 | Obscene | :P |
| 01:42.42 | Caz | will DL this for later look tho |
| 01:42.47 | Obscene | :P |
| 01:44.19 | Caz | DeadZergling - Did you say i could run an animation without using the generated BSD stuff ? |
| 01:44.32 | DeadZergling | yep |
| 01:44.41 | Caz | cuz i vaguely remember a tutorial that just deletes all that BSD stuff and runs an animation from the cutscene editor |
| 01:45.10 | DeadZergling | aye, the BSD thing is actually meant to make life easier |
| 01:45.15 | DeadZergling | but it often doesn't, lol |
| 01:45.25 | Caz | Sadly it was one of the tutorials |
| 01:45.31 | Caz | where ALL the image links are broken |
| 01:46.02 | Obscene | Here you go DZ, for the crow! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WddSQVTwj_Y |
| 01:46.06 | Caz | http://starcraft-2-galaxy-editor-tutorials.thehelper.net/tutorials.php?view=167071 |
| 01:46.32 | Caz | ^ -- thats the tutorial with broken links but does tell me to delete the bsd and such |
| 01:56.55 | DeadZergling | oh geez, found the polka section of the free music site |
| 02:00.17 | Vailreth | grrr stupid tentacles |
| 02:00.53 | DeadZergling | maybe the target needs to be female and really cute |
| 02:00.58 | DeadZergling | those tentacles won't resist then |
| 02:01.10 | Vailreth | perhaps |
| 02:01.38 | Vailreth | the missile works fine.. but the end of the tentacle wont attach to it ... still |
| 02:03.38 | DeadZergling | lol, on incompetech I'm listening to Spazzmatica Polka |
| 02:03.44 | DeadZergling | piece is so bad, I might just use it |
| 02:05.18 | Caz | I don't get why we have action actors... and why there are a million places to put launch and impact sounds |
| 02:05.22 | Dustin| | http://puu.sh/8Ch27.png |
| 02:05.39 | Dustin| | Decided to expand my Team Melee mod into an all encompassing SC1 game mode extension mod |
| 02:05.41 | Caz | launch sound.. impact sound... impact/launch asses: sounds |
| 02:06.02 | DeadZergling | nice Dustin| , I been doing anything I can to avoid making that level array... |
| 02:06.10 | Dustin| | lol |
| 02:06.14 | DeadZergling | although I did copy down good details on all of the stage 1 levels |
| 02:06.19 | DeadZergling | I know exactly how they all go now |
| 02:06.42 | Dustin| | How are you thinking about setting it up |
| 02:07.03 | Caz | DeadZergling: are u able to shed any light on that? |
| 02:09.59 | DeadZergling | just a record |
| 02:10.17 | DeadZergling | the idea is to make it easier than making separate sound actors for everything, Caz |
| 02:10.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lajjla (~nevzets@unaffiliated/nevzets) |
| 02:10.39 | DeadZergling | record contains the round number, the left, right, top, and bottom array numbers |
| 02:10.55 | DeadZergling | -1 for no stage that way |
| 02:12.18 | DeadZergling | the system I put in place to handle rounds for me by the way, is way better than it needs to be, lol |
| 02:12.56 | Vailreth | blizzard i could strangle your editor! |
| 02:13.26 | DeadZergling | didn't you miss this kind of fun Vailreth ? lol |
| 02:13.46 | Vailreth | im remembering why i stopped |
| 02:14.07 | DeadZergling | well, the attacks don't HAVE to be tentacles |
| 02:14.25 | DeadZergling | throw banelings if you prefer |
| 02:14.34 | Vailreth | i dont have any other ideas.. |
| 02:15.05 | DeadZergling | what about spore colonies that shoot out banelings? |
| 02:15.19 | Vailreth | hm. |
| 02:16.50 | DeadZergling | despite my avoidance of all this Dustin| , I am actually planning to try to make stage1 work tonight |
| 02:17.06 | DeadZergling | be nice to have that out of my way so I can focus my attention on the first boss, Mutoided Man |
| 02:17.41 | DeadZergling | *yes I know the original has Mutoid, but mine is gonna be different |
| 02:17.53 | Dustin| | hehe nice |
| 02:18.46 | DeadZergling | thinking about doing something exceptionally stupid too |
| 02:18.54 | DeadZergling | it'll be so hilarious if it works though |
| 02:19.05 | DeadZergling | add in a stupid as fuck minigame after every boss |
| 02:19.30 | DeadZergling | the winner gets +1 life, the biggest loser gets -1 life |
| 02:23.37 | Dustin| | Do it, I wanna see dicks shooting out of ravens |
| 02:29.10 | Caz | if dick impacts a female model, spawn new units at 25% scale |
| 02:31.19 | DeadZergling | well technically, I stupid as fuck |
| 02:31.27 | DeadZergling | so no pregnancies would happen |
| 02:34.27 | DeadZergling | anyways, heading home, probably just do boring level array stuff |
| 02:34.33 | DeadZergling | I want something playable up soon |
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| 02:49.04 | Caz | Really a pain in the ass that this tutorial says "should look like this" on so many broken links |
| 02:49.18 | Vailreth | yeah. |
| 02:49.20 | Caz | of course its actors/animations |
| 02:49.25 | Caz | ... |
| 02:49.27 | Vailreth | things like that can be apain |
| 02:49.44 | Caz | one of the biggest things i need working to throw together any ability |
| 02:51.44 | Vailreth | yeah. |
| 02:52.19 | Vailreth | its also doesnt help that they have changed the actors and such around alittle form when the earlier tutorials were writen.. |
| 02:53.38 | Bounty | is it possible to make a unit not clickable for only 1 player? |
| 02:55.29 | Vailreth | DeadZergling i may not be able to get a boss sorry thought i could but i need too big of a refresher if im coming back to modding |
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| 04:27.50 | DeadZergling | well done my charity work for today: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/66248-updating-a-tooltip-value-when-stats-increase/#p2 |
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| 05:25.44 | castironpi | any maps with different sizes min/gas fields? or min/gas only? |
| 05:27.52 | castironpi | magma core is sure brutal, ain't it? it's at 8-pl map. |
| 05:27.59 | castironpi | an*. |
| 05:29.42 | DeadZergling | not sure anyone here is a big melee fan, castironpi |
| 05:30.06 | castironpi | i'm mid-rank diamond on the 2v2 ladder. |
| 05:30.43 | DeadZergling | diamond is pretty good right? above platinum |
| 05:30.55 | castironpi | yeah, below master, below grandmaster. |
| 05:31.09 | castironpi | but it's no fun, everyone is frozen cold. |
| 05:31.21 | DeadZergling | grats on that, I'm not sure they have a cheap enough metal to rate me, lol |
| 05:31.32 | castironpi | bronze? is pretty cheap dude. |
| 05:31.44 | castironpi | copper and tin alloy. |
| 05:33.34 | DeadZergling | getting close, but I think some rock found in the parking lot |
| 05:33.38 | DeadZergling | is probably closer to my level :) |
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| 05:37.55 | DeadZergling | sigh, just how ridiculous of activities can I come up with, my current mission, make tosh dance... |
| 05:44.38 | castironpi | DeadZergling: igneous metamorphic sedimentary. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rock_types |
| 05:45.19 | DeadZergling | Crow looked lonely, so I decided Tosh needed to dance with him |
| 05:45.57 | castironpi | i had an idea for a map. |
| 05:46.03 | DeadZergling | that is a pretty good description really |
| 05:46.07 | DeadZergling | for my playing melee ability |
| 05:46.13 | castironpi | min/gas all along the perimeter. |
| 05:46.13 | DeadZergling | worthless and burnt out, lol |
| 05:46.48 | DeadZergling | not sure I follow castironpi |
| 05:47.01 | DeadZergling | you mean a map surrounded by minerals and gas on all the walls? |
| 05:47.05 | castironpi | the terrain could vary. but there are minerals and gas all alon...... yes. |
| 05:47.41 | DeadZergling | Well that wouldn't be hard to do with just the terrain editor on your own |
| 05:47.52 | castironpi | yeah but would it be popular? |
| 05:48.03 | DeadZergling | hard to say, BGH was ridiculously popular |
| 05:48.13 | DeadZergling | so was fastest possible map |
| 05:48.17 | castironpi | in SC1? |
| 05:48.21 | DeadZergling | indeed |
| 05:48.39 | castironpi | what about some drop-only locations? |
| 05:49.41 | DeadZergling | well that's up to you dude, terrain editor is actually pretty easy to pick up |
| 05:50.05 | DeadZergling | I've heard about the best way to make a balanced map is terrain half the map |
| 05:50.11 | DeadZergling | or even just a quarter |
| 05:50.16 | DeadZergling | and copy paste mirror in the other spots |
| 05:55.14 | castironpi | is there anyone who will try a new map i make with me? |
| 05:56.40 | castironpi | how do teams normally "go"? you go "full throttle" for a while then burn out. you could say "hot shot". i don't want that, i want something... sustainable. |
| 05:56.54 | castironpi | will I be getting an invitation? |
| 05:57.14 | DeadZergling | depends on the team honestly |
| 05:57.28 | DeadZergling | team genesis is fairly active on there, and is pretty newbie friendly I've heard |
| 05:57.45 | DeadZergling | (newbie to editor of course, I know you aren't newbie to melee, lol) |
| 05:59.03 | DeadZergling | more than likely you'll need to say you are looking to join |
| 06:02.28 | castironpi | are you up for a game now? |
| 06:02.49 | DeadZergling | me, nope, too busy working on my project for any games tonight |
| 06:03.19 | castironpi | then so say i create a map. can we talk about it? or people just play or reject it? |
| 06:03.46 | DeadZergling | well if you want input from this channel, it helps to make a video, or take screenshots |
| 06:03.53 | DeadZergling | as a lot of time we are busy, or at work, or whatever |
| 06:04.37 | DeadZergling | as fair warning, some people in here pride themselves on being insufferable assholes |
| 06:04.44 | DeadZergling | so don't take it too hard if someone rips into you, lol |
| 06:06.39 | castironpi | i'm patient. i learned not to take offense. (no small feat.) |
| 06:06.58 | castironpi | however i do consider it a "filter" in some way to not present my work too easily. |
| 06:07.50 | castironpi | are there any maps with islands? |
| 06:08.06 | DeadZergling | probably, mozared is the terrain moderator guy |
| 06:08.16 | DeadZergling | I'm more into data/triggers myself |
| 06:11.20 | castironpi | that's not what i'm in to. we might disagree. |
| 06:11.52 | DeadZergling | haha, we would anyways |
| 06:12.01 | DeadZergling | it isn't say I have never terrained, it just isn't what I like to do |
| 06:12.12 | DeadZergling | is just to make a box for me to use data and triggers in for me is all :) |
| 06:15.52 | castironpi | when is mozared in the channel? |
| 06:17.24 | DeadZergling | oh him, he is never in here |
| 06:17.27 | DeadZergling | he is on sc2mapster though |
| 06:17.34 | DeadZergling | the .com site |
| 06:17.44 | DeadZergling | ~seen mozared |
| 06:17.45 | purl | i haven't seen 'mozared', DeadZergling |
| 06:17.50 | DeadZergling | didn't think so |
| 06:19.05 | castironpi | i'm like "meh, 'nother ladder game". |
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| 06:34.46 | ArcanePariah | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.09 | ArcanePariah | Good evening everyone (assuming anyone is alive :D) |
| 06:35.15 | DeadZergling | hi ArcanePariah |
| 06:35.21 | ArcanePariah | Hey DeadZergling |
| 06:35.27 | DeadZergling | you any good with the hiding of actors for just one player? |
| 06:35.31 | DeadZergling | I'm failing at it right now |
| 06:35.50 | ArcanePariah | Which actors are you trying to hide? |
| 06:36.07 | DeadZergling | any really, lol |
| 06:36.29 | DeadZergling | hang on, let me paste what I'm using |
| 06:37.00 | DeadZergling | https://pastee.org/mpnyc for the trigger |
| 06:37.37 | DeadZergling | https://pastee.org/d6bhn in the actor itself |
| 06:37.49 | DeadZergling | what you been up to by the way? lol |
| 06:37.52 | castironpi | DeadZergling: CODE dear god. |
| 06:39.06 | DeadZergling | sorry to just ask that out of the blue, is only thing on my mind at the moment |
| 06:39.23 | ArcanePariah | Well, in the actor directly, theere is the Fliter Player field. The corresponding actor message is Set Filter Players |
| 06:40.00 | ArcanePariah | So you want to construct a Set Filter Player message, and pass itthe player to hide from and the option to set the fliter (you can set, clear or toggle it) |
| 06:41.12 | DeadZergling | isn't that what <Filter index="Self" value="1"/> is doing? |
| 06:41.30 | ArcanePariah | No, that is the fliter based on alliances |
| 06:41.44 | ArcanePariah | Which can be self, allies, enemies, neutrul |
| 06:41.46 | ArcanePariah | afaik |
| 06:43.35 | DeadZergling | so you are saying, self needs to be allowed |
| 06:44.43 | ArcanePariah | IF you want the player who created/controls the unit the actor is associated with to see it, yes |
| 06:45.56 | DeadZergling | hrrrrmmm, well I have no issue seeing it, what I'm actually trying to do is trigger the halo event for just that player |
| 06:46.15 | DeadZergling | but thanks for pointing that out, this means me making selection rings for the marines just got a LOT easier |
| 06:46.25 | DeadZergling | all i gotta do is filter players, lol |
| 06:50.40 | DeadZergling | you been doing other editors lately ArcanePariah ? |
| 06:51.47 | DeadZergling | or just too obsessed with your kickstarter thing? |
| 06:55.37 | DeadZergling | A1win, if you awake, I broke your code :) |
| 06:58.44 | ArcanePariah | Pretty much only NOTD 2, we still have a TON of work to do... |
| 06:59.19 | ArcanePariah | As for other editors... I'm a coder by profession/school. I code at work, I code for school, I code for hobby, working in... like 6-9 different languages/tech |
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| 06:59.39 | ArcanePariah | At this current point I spend easily 6+ hours a day coding for something |
| 07:07.33 | DeadZergling | TON to do huh, that isn't good for May 31st being so close |
| 07:08.03 | ArcanePariah | Well... yes and no. We aim to have a fully functional game by may 31st, but we have larger plans in terms of customization and content |
| 07:09.00 | ArcanePariah | We intend to have fair amount of randomzation in terms of gameplay. Storyline, what side missions, what factions oppose you and so forth. |
| 07:09.40 | ArcanePariah | Each faction each to have its own identity of sorts, mindless mobs of zombies on one hand, elite tactical groups of human mercernaries on the other. |
| 07:10.57 | DeadZergling | how does one gain zombie faction? |
| 07:11.10 | ArcanePariah | You don't, these are all varying enemy factions |
| 07:11.57 | DeadZergling | ah, thought maybe there was a turn brains in quest :P |
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| 07:12.21 | ArcanePariah | So one game you might have mostly huge mobs to deal with, next game could have snipers and artillary being called in and flanking enemies |
| 07:12.40 | DeadZergling | is to keep it replayable, basically |
| 07:18.49 | castironpi | DeadZergling: can you confirm you are able to read this file? what format do i need? let's look at something like this. http://home.comcast.net/~castironpi-misc/scylla.SC2Map |
| 07:19.42 | DeadZergling | will in awhile, trying to finish something atm |
| 07:21.34 | castironpi | can you just highlight or PM me tomorrow? i'm gunna sign off soon. |
| 07:23.54 | DeadZergling | just a min, you just want to see if I can actually look at it right now, right? |
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| 07:26.20 | DeadZergling | well see a shit ton of minerals and vespenes making a border |
| 07:26.37 | DeadZergling | moorhsum, you are A1win's bot aren't you? |
| 07:26.40 | Moorhsum | DeadZergling, fucking wrecked were 8... :d |
| 07:26.56 | DeadZergling | too bad Moorhsum, I demand actor help! |
| 07:27.00 | Moorhsum | Anyone should lose or can help with,! |
| 07:28.35 | A1win | just woke up |
| 07:36.15 | DeadZergling | hi A1win , I tried your stuff, it isn't working for me... |
| 07:36.30 | DeadZergling | I am sure it is my error |
| 07:36.50 | DeadZergling | https://pastee.org/mpnyc is what i have in the trigger, I think the actor is okay |
| 07:36.52 | A1win | mm it was only a text paste anyway |
| 07:37.58 | A1win | btw that "c_" in front of the name is just my naming convention for "custom" stuff in this project, feel free to name the actor whatever |
| 07:38.48 | A1win | your alias add message is wrong |
| 07:39.00 | A1win | is that a string? |
| 07:39.26 | A1win | use a value with Msg Type "Alias Add" (from a dropdown) and enter name as Custom with "_TriggerTarget" |
| 07:39.59 | A1win | or just add a space, it should be "AliasAdd _TriggerTarget" |
| 07:40.43 | A1win | same with AliasRemove |
| 07:40.44 | DeadZergling | second, was editing something else I did wrong, lol |
| 07:40.59 | A1win | other than those it looks ok |
| 07:43.10 | DeadZergling | so just a space before the _ on both? |
| 07:43.45 | A1win | before |
| 07:43.50 | DeadZergling | yea, i totally missed that space, lol |
| 07:43.53 | A1win | the "_TriggerTarget" is the alias that you're adding/removing |
| 07:44.20 | A1win | aliases are stuff like _Unit and _Selectable etc. |
| 07:49.05 | DeadZergling | trying it out here shortly, ahd to change stuff so it'd do what I want |
| 07:51.09 | DeadZergling | I decided to add a dancing Tosh since the crow looked like he needed a brother |
| 07:51.22 | A1win | :x |
| 07:53.13 | DeadZergling | not working bleh |
| 07:53.43 | DeadZergling | https://pastee.org/byyfp |
| 07:53.45 | DeadZergling | is my model |
| 07:53.50 | DeadZergling | err actor |
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| 08:13.52 | DeadZergling | I'm sure it is somehow my fault again A1win , or does this only work for hiding actors |
| 08:14.01 | DeadZergling | I just want the actor to only glow for one player is all |
| 08:14.03 | A1win | should work with anything |
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| 08:15.41 | A1win | I actually have that same actor myself for another purpose |
| 08:15.50 | A1win | so I guess it's still your code |
| 08:15.52 | DeadZergling | hi Delphinium , was hoping to see you on |
| 08:16.18 | DeadZergling | I wanted to know if it is okay if I use some of your models in my contest entry |
| 08:16.41 | DeadZergling | you think the function itself is good though? |
| 08:17.20 | Delphinium | Hi, Deadzergling |
| 08:17.36 | Delphinium | You can use them anyway as you wish~ |
| 08:17.55 | DeadZergling | Great, thank you, just wanted to make sure with you :) |
| 08:18.44 | Delphinium | it will be cool if you metion the "Froggy&Catty" in the credits. |
| 08:19.17 | Delphinium | (Because these assets are made by two guys, me and nanakey) |
| 08:19.22 | DeadZergling | you prefer Froggy&Catty over Delphinium |
| 08:19.27 | DeadZergling | ? |
| 08:19.46 | DeadZergling | okies, making a note of that, I will do |
| 08:21.13 | Delphinium | Well there are stories. |
| 08:21.38 | Delphinium | Delphinium is a frog and nanakey is a cat. |
| 08:22.11 | DeadZergling | ah, did not know that |
| 08:22.49 | DeadZergling | okay, just mailed myself a reminder so I'll be sure to do it before contest ends |
| 08:29.17 | DeadZergling | any recommendations A1win ? |
| 08:29.33 | A1win | mmh? |
| 08:29.41 | DeadZergling | about what I could be doing wrong, lol |
| 08:29.45 | A1win | no idea x\ |
| 08:29.49 | A1win | it all looked fine |
| 08:30.12 | A1win | look at that library thingy and see how it's done there |
| 08:30.34 | Delphinium | 1 month ago, I was trying to keep our assets until the contest is over. |
| 08:31.21 | DeadZergling | here is my attempt to use it, A1win https://pastee.org/vgvu8 |
| 08:31.43 | Delphinium | but soon we found that we can never finish our map before May 31st |
| 08:31.45 | A1win | that's one ugly trigger D: |
| 08:31.50 | DeadZergling | is okay if you too busy now though, I can use a ridiculously ghetto way of making this work too |
| 08:32.17 | A1win | DeadZergling, why is it even just one trigger if it handles each event separately anyway? |
| 08:32.20 | DeadZergling | be great exposure for your models anyways :) |
| 08:32.40 | DeadZergling | so they all in one place, lol |
| 08:32.48 | A1win | <.< |
| 08:32.59 | A1win | that's the opposite of what you should be doing :P |
| 08:33.13 | DeadZergling | it is just a starting screen trigger, it gets turned off after 20 seconds... |
| 08:33.44 | DeadZergling | used a couple of your models to make a very convincing B.F.G., Delphinium :) |
| 08:34.22 | A1win | just test it with something simple first until it works |
| 08:36.08 | Delphinium | So since we can't finish ours, I think it's bad idea to keep them a long time. |
| 08:36.15 | DeadZergling | will do, I'm sure it has somethign to do with me not being able to reference the actor |
| 08:36.24 | Delphinium | If you need other models, plz let me know too. |
| 08:36.28 | DeadZergling | yea, is too bad you can't finish in time |
| 08:36.50 | Delphinium | I am not sure we can finish it in this year. |
| 08:41.50 | DeadZergling | that's a very long time, what are you making? |
| 08:43.11 | Delphinium | An ARPG has a story that Dustin Browder save the world... |
| 08:44.36 | DeadZergling | nice, and I understand the time if it is an RPG |
| 08:44.44 | DeadZergling | those things take FOREVER to make |
| 08:45.27 | Delphinium | Yeah, we have done tons of work, but still far from finished. |
| 08:46.11 | Delphinium | the number of models now is over 1000 and still rises. |
| 08:46.26 | DeadZergling | i took a break from my RPG to make an entry I can actually have finished in time, lol |
| 08:46.39 | A1win | RPGs take forever to make and most of them end up utterly boring anyway |
| 08:47.17 | A1win | also, there are a lot of RPGs already out there so it's not easy to make something new |
| 08:47.23 | Delphinium | But who won't like a Dustin in a marauder armor. |
| 08:48.54 | DeadZergling | 1000 huh, sure it shouldn't just be a standalone title, lol |
| 08:52.16 | Delphinium | PrintIn isn't online now, but I want mention that we also made 10000 animations for SCU's over 80 characters. That special technology is based on his m3addon. |
| 08:54.45 | Delphinium | It used to need months of work. but with printIn help we finish them in no more than 20 hours. So 1000 models are something like that, we do used some special ways. |
| 08:54.51 | Merc | :o |
| 08:56.18 | Merc | gonna be one hefty download |
| 08:56.26 | Delphinium | m3addon is a wonderful tool. |
| 08:56.38 | Merc | I am not familiar with m3 addon |
| 08:56.46 | Merc | m3addon* |
| 08:57.23 | Merc | oh, Blender? |
| 08:58.11 | Delphinium | It's an m3 import/export tool for blender, but can also works independently. |
| 08:59.28 | Delphinium | Too bad that Blizzard guys never recognize the potentiality. |
| 09:02.35 | A1win | still no one to playtest with me? o: |
| 09:02.48 | DeadZergling | I can hop on NA if you want A1win |
| 09:03.03 | DeadZergling | just let me save and close what im up to |
| 09:03.17 | Delphinium | @_@ don't have a North America Account. |
| 09:03.25 | A1win | yes you do |
| 09:03.32 | A1win | all accounts have access to all regions |
| 09:03.39 | A1win | though I'd rather do this on EU |
| 09:03.46 | DeadZergling | would it be better if did EU A1win ? |
| 09:03.58 | DeadZergling | okies, logging in shortly |
| 09:04.22 | Delphinium | Only the Chinese accounts can't |
| 09:04.26 | A1win | oh |
| 09:04.30 | Delphinium | (but it's cheaper) |
| 09:05.43 | DeadZergling | am on A1win |
| 09:07.33 | Delphinium | I still want to find some way to mention Blizzard guys that. |
| 09:08.12 | Delphinium | ignoring this wonderful tool is a bad idea. |
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| 09:31.06 | A1win | DeadZergling, anyway the influence thing now is that it adds 20 / (number of players in your team) influence to the stars per second per player, was thinking that it should just be a static amount per player |
| 09:31.20 | A1win | so in a 4 player game if all players are inside the zone, it adds 20 / sec |
| 09:31.27 | A1win | I mean 4v4 player game |
| 09:31.46 | A1win | and in 1v1 game if all (one) are in the zone, it adds only 5 instead of 20 |
| 09:32.02 | A1win | though probably half of that, it was pretty fast now |
| 09:32.29 | A1win | 100 influence is 5 stars |
| 09:32.40 | DeadZergling | yea, it was really fast |
| 09:32.43 | A1win | so 20 per sec is 5 (blizzard) seconds to capture the whole thing |
| 09:32.46 | DeadZergling | maybe just 2 per player |
| 09:33.34 | A1win | though if it depends on the number of players in team, it scales it a bit for uneven matches |
| 09:33.38 | A1win | like for 3vs4 |
| 09:34.20 | A1win | maybe I'll just make it slower and keep the team scaling like it is |
| 09:35.27 | A1win | I'll try 5 / (team size) / sec, so only 1.25 per player in a 4v4 game |
| 09:35.42 | A1win | so 1/4 of the speed it was now when the whole team is inside one zone |
| 09:36.48 | A1win | about the loadout thing, I plan to add at least 3 abilities before the deadline |
| 09:36.54 | A1win | preferably more if I have the time |
| 09:37.15 | A1win | it's not that they're super slow to add, but testing takes time |
| 09:37.52 | A1win | if there were only 7 of them and you can choose 5, of course it won't make sense to even have the loadout mechanic ;p |
| 09:41.47 | DeadZergling | yea, I was just, where's my damn guns man |
| 09:45.45 | DeadZergling | have I ever told you how little I enjoy manually filling in record arrays... |
| 09:45.46 | A1win | I need to figure out how to make the inventory look like inventory |
| 09:45.57 | DeadZergling | yea... I was confused for sure |
| 09:46.10 | A1win | I suppose it'll be better when it has more icons in it |
| 09:46.19 | A1win | but could do something about it anyway... |
| 09:46.24 | A1win | just no idea what ;p |
| 09:46.41 | DeadZergling | haha indeed, I'm too tired to have any good ideas of that kind right now |
| 09:46.52 | DeadZergling | failing at actor events all night will do that to me |
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| 10:23.13 | A1win | DeadZergling, how's that? http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a136/SC2%202014-05-07%2013-22-41-47.jpg |
| 10:24.19 | DeadZergling | the style isn't bad |
| 10:24.28 | DeadZergling | but Inventory, it doesn't seem the right word |
| 10:24.37 | A1win | mmh |
| 10:25.07 | DeadZergling | something more like you'd expect to hear in star trek or such be good |
| 10:25.18 | DeadZergling | Systems maybe? |
| 10:25.25 | A1win | that's misleading |
| 10:25.43 | A1win | I mean that doesn't tell you that they are not active |
| 10:25.58 | A1win | like "Available Systems" or something |
| 10:26.05 | DeadZergling | right |
| 10:26.08 | A1win | system isn't a good word either though ; |
| 10:26.09 | A1win | ;p |
| 10:26.14 | DeadZergling | is better than inventory |
| 10:26.16 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 10:26.26 | A1win | Available Equipment |
| 10:26.59 | DeadZergling | Systems just works to me, they are things obviously built into the ship |
| 10:27.04 | DeadZergling | you just have to pick where the power goes |
| 10:27.08 | DeadZergling | to keep them active |
| 10:27.34 | A1win | it has too many other meanings |
| 10:27.43 | A1win | these are just weapons and abilities |
| 10:28.15 | DeadZergling | suppose, but inventory/equipment is just so, bleh |
| 10:28.31 | DeadZergling | makes me go looking for a metal sword |
| 10:28.36 | A1win | :x |
| 10:30.04 | DeadZergling | well all done manually filling out an array of records |
| 10:30.08 | DeadZergling | let's not do that one again, lol |
| 10:30.17 | DeadZergling | oh wait, I have to again for area 2 and 3... |
| 10:30.19 | A1win | ;p |
| 10:30.39 | A1win | gear? |
| 10:30.53 | A1win | meh still sounds weird |
| 10:31.04 | A1win | even the "available" part |
| 10:31.15 | DeadZergling | Technologies? |
| 10:31.23 | A1win | Tech ;p |
| 10:31.38 | A1win | but Available sounds weird here |
| 10:31.42 | A1win | Available Tech |
| 10:32.10 | A1win | Choose your tech |
| 10:33.44 | A1win | meh |
| 10:42.25 | A1win | err how do I unpause the trigger debugger when it breaks on error |
| 10:43.07 | A1win | ah, F5 |
| 10:44.38 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a136/SC2%202014-05-07%2013-44-18-56.jpg |
| 10:44.42 | A1win | now it just needs more stuff ;p |
| 11:15.09 | Goa_ | Zolden so much lol: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22609523 |
| 11:42.47 | Zolden | fuck them all and their absurd issuaes |
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| 13:13.41 | egod | sup guys, hey, how can i remove the damn (terrain line) they are like invisible, squared |
| 13:13.50 | egod | in my terrai map |
| 13:14.09 | egod | in VIEW menu, i cant find that` |
| 13:17.38 | A1win | the grid? press g a few times |
| 13:21.25 | Ahli | remove something that is invisible? |
| 13:22.05 | Ahli | yay, I like my fan of knives... you can stack its casts or move around after casting... way cooler than D3's one |
| 13:32.14 | egod | thx a1win |
| 13:32.17 | egod | that was G |
| 13:47.39 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/arcade/en/blog/14070047/rock-the-cabinet-announcing-new-rock-on-bonus-arcade-assets-5-6-2014 |
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| 13:50.55 | A1win | cool o: |
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| 14:14.46 | egod | anyone remember the line code under windows to convert a .mp4 to .ogv with ffmpeg2theora-0.29 codex? |
| 14:24.56 | Goa_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCSWbTv3hng |
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| 15:32.58 | A1win | now I have best of 3 mechanics |
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| 16:25.36 | Goa_ | somebody can help me with UI? I cant move objective panels UI... |
| 16:26.22 | Zolden | I remember we wound out that Ahli alone is somebody already |
| 16:27.18 | A1win | Goa_, with UI editor? |
| 16:27.25 | Goa_ | yes |
| 16:28.07 | Goa_ | I might be accessing it wrongly or its not access-able |
| 16:28.33 | A1win | like this? https://pastee.org/ngmbq |
| 16:28.38 | A1win | oops |
| 16:28.41 | A1win | remove ChatBar/ |
| 16:29.09 | Goa_ | I managed to change ObjectivePanelListBoxItem but not ObjectivePanelListBoxTemplate and ObjectivePanelTemplate |
| 16:29.45 | A1win | why would you change those if you just want to move it? |
| 16:30.02 | Goa_ | I want to move all |
| 16:30.04 | Goa_ | dont know:D |
| 16:30.09 | A1win | they're all inside that panel |
| 16:30.15 | A1win | you just move that panel and they all move |
| 16:30.26 | Goa_ | inside what panel? |
| 16:30.31 | A1win | ObjectivePanel |
| 16:30.43 | A1win | try what I just pasted without ChatBar/ and change those offsets |
| 16:30.57 | A1win | (those are the default anchors) |
| 16:30.58 | Goa_ | ehh |
| 16:31.04 | Goa_ | what does that do in chatbar? |
| 16:31.13 | A1win | I just told you to remove it :P |
| 16:31.18 | A1win | from what I posted |
| 16:31.38 | A1win | fine, here: https://pastee.org/8za95 |
| 16:34.46 | Goa_ | not working:D |
| 16:34.57 | Goa_ | or I have to restart maybe the editor |
| 16:35.10 | A1win | I don't know if that works, but it does for other panels |
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| 16:39.23 | Goa___ | well it doesnt |
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| 16:40.27 | hobbidude | would anyone recommend using functions as templates within a dialog system? |
| 16:40.49 | Goa___ | ohh |
| 16:40.51 | Goa___ | shit |
| 16:41.04 | Goa_ | its by default 103, I thought you added that :D |
| 16:41.09 | A1win | <.< |
| 16:41.16 | A1win | I told you it was the default anchor |
| 16:41.58 | Goa_ | you didnt tell me hard enough:D |
| 16:45.25 | Goa_ | fuck |
| 16:45.28 | Goa_ | still no succes |
| 16:46.22 | pirate | whats the difference between camera shadow clip and far clip? |
| 16:48.10 | pirate | wow nvm |
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| 18:13.29 | Zolden | TwoDie look waht spaceships I am forced to use without someone's modelling assiastance http://i.snag.gy/u113j.jpg |
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| 18:21.40 | TwoDie | learning the PS filter tools? |
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| 18:22.11 | Zolden | :) |
| 18:28.52 | Dustin| | Woo, Team Melee, Slaughter, Greed and King of the hill modes all done, now all thats left is CTF |
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| 18:40.22 | DeadZergling | well Dustin| , I blew it again, I had just enough time to throw together the arrays, and setup the levels as seen, but no time last night to set it up so you can go to different levels |
| 18:40.42 | Dustin| | lol |
| 18:41.30 | Dustin| | In better news, I finished all but CTF on my SC1 Melee Mod Extension pack |
| 18:41.32 | DeadZergling | I did however find time to make Tosh dance for me... |
| 18:42.17 | DeadZergling | sc1 had CTF? |
| 18:42.26 | Dustin| | Yup |
| 18:42.38 | Dustin| | CTf, Slaughter, Greed, King of the Hill, Team Melee |
| 18:44.46 | DeadZergling | Ran into a small problem with how I was going to show going to a new arena |
| 18:45.13 | DeadZergling | as it turns out, I don't really have the space to make + signs of identical arenas... |
| 18:46.02 | DeadZergling | so thinking I might display a big annoying banner to cover up me resetting the level instead, lol |
| 18:48.08 | DeadZergling | either that or can get better at hiding/revealing terrain |
| 18:49.24 | DeadZergling | I could pretty much keep an area displayed just long enough doing something like Reveal Region for 2 seconds for X Players that loops every second, right? |
| 18:51.35 | Dustin| | Yeah, just fog of war the area, make changes, unfog it |
| 18:51.51 | Dustin| | Makybe have a cool STAGE X banner popup too |
| 18:52.18 | DeadZergling | too bad I can't just re-use my cloud spokes arena banner, lol |
| 18:53.40 | DeadZergling | so i'll need to add fog of war back after it is unrevealed? |
| 18:54.22 | DeadZergling | <=== tends to reveal areas never to be hidden again... |
| 18:54.27 | Dustin| | I think unreveal will work |
| 18:54.42 | Dustin| | There's an Unreveal for X seconds function |
| 18:54.46 | Dustin| | Would be easiest |
| 18:54.56 | DeadZergling | but this can be good too, means I can maybe sneak a few more arenas in there |
| 18:55.33 | DeadZergling | I see, well it will take fiddling I'm sure |
| 18:55.42 | DeadZergling | but got a good idea what to attempt at least now |
| 18:56.15 | DeadZergling | I made a huge derp on my dancing Tosh last night, put in a nice dance loop in his events that would never stop |
| 18:56.20 | DeadZergling | but couldn't figure out why he refused to dance |
| 18:56.32 | DeadZergling | turned out, I put in the default tosh, not my new one... |
| 18:56.37 | Dustin| | haha |
| 18:57.17 | DeadZergling | just need some sort of boombox, and my start screen is complete :) |
| 18:57.40 | DeadZergling | I found a piece of Reggae music to go with the crow's dancing, and thought, hey Tosh should be dancing to that |
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| 19:14.36 | pirate | http://i.imgur.com/i6QhWrj.jpg |
| 19:20.06 | DeadZergling | I understand the reference in the last sentence, but feels really forced |
| 19:20.56 | duckies | whoooooa, that's an awesome looking clasic briefing room pirate |
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| 19:21.16 | duckies | for your rogue star? |
| 19:21.26 | pirate | lol dead, that was for sharing purposes, not in game dialog :P |
| 19:21.27 | pirate | yeah |
| 19:22.04 | Vindicator | ugh i feel like i ask this every few months but how the heck do you attach a created actor model to the center of a target unit |
| 19:22.16 | Vindicator | to prevent it from being created in the origin or ground |
| 19:22.18 | DeadZergling | sopattachhardpoint |
| 19:22.23 | DeadZergling | or something like that |
| 19:23.26 | Vindicator | eh didn't work, the ability doesn't show up if i choose that |
| 19:23.35 | Vindicator | well, the actor model i mean |
| 19:23.56 | Vindicator | i've tried a couple other sop things and they make it disappear too |
| 19:24.14 | DeadZergling | I'd need something more specific to be able to see what is really happening |
| 19:24.52 | DeadZergling | ie, xml, code, that sort of thing, lol |
| 19:25.41 | Vindicator | i'm just creating an actor model in events+ when an effect is used. the effect is created on a unit via triggers |
| 19:26.11 | Vindicator | there's not anything more to it than just a model being created, no functionality beyond that |
| 19:29.03 | Vindicator | http://pastebin.com/JmePavAN thats the actor |
| 19:30.11 | Vindicator | http://pastebin.com/JWeZZNum nvm, there's all 3, actor model and effect. ultra simple |
| 19:30.16 | Vindicator | very little changed |
| 19:30.58 | Vindicator | and it's being run via triggers with the "Create effect on unit (from unit)" action. |
| 19:32.11 | DeadZergling | so you are sure it is creating, just not where you'd like it to be |
| 19:32.47 | Vindicator | it's absolutely creating, but if i define the sophardpoint it doesn't show up anymore, same thing happens with other sOPs |
| 19:33.05 | DeadZergling | is the graphic so small maybe it happens entirely inside the model? |
| 19:33.09 | Vindicator | nope |
| 19:33.12 | Vindicator | it's huge atm |
| 19:33.31 | Vindicator | 5x as big as the unit |
| 19:33.48 | DeadZergling | wonder if adding the term at target or at effect |
| 19:33.53 | DeadZergling | would help any with that |
| 19:33.58 | Vindicator | ill try |
| 19:34.35 | DeadZergling | there is also rare occurences where the code just somehow gets fucked beyond fixing, and best just to dupe something similar and adjust it to be what you had |
| 19:35.14 | Vindicator | no this is super common i just can't remember what to do. i know what you mean though but this isn't that |
| 19:35.36 | DeadZergling | unfortunately all the help available atm is me random guessing :) |
| 19:35.47 | DeadZergling | JademusSreg I am not |
| 19:35.57 | Vindicator | this is the thing like when people try to create abilities that shoot and they arrive at the unit's feet |
| 19:38.13 | DeadZergling | I understand the feeling Vindicator , just ask anyone who has been in this channel for long... I have actor issues, and often |
| 19:38.37 | Vindicator | ya, thanks for trying though :) |
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| 19:39.18 | DeadZergling | hi ArcanePariah , been missing a real show, me of all people giving actor advice :P |
| 19:40.24 | Vindicator | hey arcane, you wouldn't happen to be good enough with data to know how to get an actor to create in the center of a unit vs at it's feet on the ground would u? |
| 19:41.13 | DeadZergling | Thanks again for reminding me about filters btw, AP |
| 19:42.40 | ArcanePariah | Vindicator, in the Host Site Ops of the actor you are creating, add SoPAttachCenter |
| 19:43.01 | ArcanePariah | DeadZergling, no problem |
| 19:43.21 | Vindicator | that makes it not show up =/ deadzergling recommended an sOP too and i tried a few others beforehand too.. using any sOP makes it not appear for some reason |
| 19:43.44 | ArcanePariah | For the Host, set the Subject to _Unit (alias) |
| 19:43.56 | ArcanePariah | It probably isn't finding a host |
| 19:44.04 | ArcanePariah | What kind of actor are you creating? |
| 19:44.35 | Vindicator | just a model |
| 19:47.49 | Vindicator | ok just to make sure i'm understanding what you said here's what i just did: I put _Unit in the "Actor: Aliases" of the actor i'm putting the attachcenter sOP on and it still disappears. is that what you were saying to try? |
| 19:48.13 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, I was unclear. No, in the Actor, there is a field called Host |
| 19:48.28 | ArcanePariah | In that field is another field called Subject |
| 19:48.36 | ArcanePariah | Put _Unit in there |
| 19:48.54 | Vindicator | ok removed the alias and put that in, testing now |
| 19:49.29 | Vindicator | nope, still isn't showing x.x |
| 19:49.47 | ArcanePariah | Ok hmm... for the model that you are attaching, can you paste its XML please? |
| 19:50.45 | Vindicator | http://pastebin.com/JWeZZNum there's the actor effect and model i'm using before i changed what you just said to do |
| 19:50.55 | Vindicator | not much customized |
| 19:51.52 | Vindicator | http://pastebin.com/EzBct2BB |
| 19:51.54 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, I see your problem. For your model actors, you left the parent object to be ModelAnimationOneShot. What this does by default is play the birth and stand animation once, then kills the actor |
| 19:51.55 | Vindicator | there's the actor now |
| 19:52.08 | ArcanePariah | You need to change the parent to ModelAttachement |
| 19:52.12 | ArcanePariah | And reset the events |
| 19:52.18 | ArcanePariah | And readd your event |
| 19:53.01 | Vindicator | kk i'll try that |
| 19:53.20 | ArcanePariah | I really ought to write a guide on how data inheritance works... |
| 19:53.42 | ArcanePariah | Too many people either spend overkill amount of time or get burned like this because it isn't properly explained... |
| 19:54.04 | Vindicator | modeladdition for parent? |
| 19:54.07 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 19:54.30 | ArcanePariah | That by default just plays birth then stand forever until the actor is destroyed |
| 19:54.58 | ArcanePariah | Another topic I should write a tutorial on.... sigh... waaaayyy tooo little time.... |
| 19:55.00 | Vindicator | well it was showing before, it was just if i put an sOP it wouldn't show anymore |
| 19:55.09 | DeadZergling | I'm more on the hopeless side of those people ArcanePariah , I know how it works, but I can never remember which parent does what I want, lol |
| 19:55.19 | Vindicator | cuz i do only want it to play once, it's an ability visual basically |
| 19:55.29 | Vindicator | it's just not getting centered on the target |
| 19:55.35 | ArcanePariah | OHHHH |
| 19:55.53 | ArcanePariah | Ok, then revert what I just said. It probably is being created on the caster incorrectly |
| 19:56.05 | Vindicator | it's created on a target |
| 19:56.17 | ArcanePariah | Yes, but you need to tell it that :D |
| 19:56.29 | Vindicator | oh |
| 19:56.31 | ArcanePariah | In the Host Field I mentioned before, set the Scope to SCope Target |
| 19:56.37 | Vindicator | ur saying the sOP making it get created on the caster probably? |
| 19:56.43 | ArcanePariah | Possibly |
| 19:57.21 | Vindicator | kk testing |
| 19:57.50 | DeadZergling | A1win, are you still about? |
| 19:57.57 | A1win | yeah |
| 19:58.07 | ArcanePariah | sup A1win, how is it going? |
| 19:58.11 | Vindicator | it worked, yay thank you very much arcane |
| 19:58.13 | DeadZergling | got a question, and you probably know what it has to do with :P |
| 19:58.20 | ArcanePariah | Your welcome :D |
| 19:58.22 | A1win | going fine, continued my map a few days ago |
| 19:58.50 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, likewise, putting the pedal to the metal for my map... sooo much to do... |
| 19:59.15 | A1win | I almost have a publishable version, just need some playtests first |
| 19:59.17 | DeadZergling | using the stuff you already sent me, can you please give me an example of using code to call it correctly for an actor based on knowing the unit... |
| 19:59.22 | A1win | but still some work to do before the deadline |
| 19:59.39 | DeadZergling | I still think my dice setup would work well :) |
| 19:59.45 | Merc | urr |
| 19:59.50 | ArcanePariah | Yeah... and it does/doesn't help that Blizzard upped the pressure by upping the prizes |
| 19:59.59 | Merc | all of a sudden my map editor crashes when in browser |
| 20:00.05 | DeadZergling | well at the very least, if you make it to the top 5 |
| 20:00.07 | Merc | this has happened before, cant remember how to fix it |
| 20:00.09 | DeadZergling | you are guaranteed 'something' |
| 20:00.11 | Merc | any guesses? |
| 20:01.28 | DeadZergling | Merc, I blame the cat if you own one |
| 20:01.48 | Merc | there is this cat that shows up from time to time and acts like he owns the place |
| 20:02.08 | ArcanePariah | Merc, my best techinical guess is memory problems. If you don't have at least 6+ gigs, it could be the issue. |
| 20:02.15 | A1win | DeadZergling, well you had it right in the example trigger you showed |
| 20:02.41 | Merc | got 16 gigs |
| 20:02.51 | ArcanePariah | Ok, no issue there then... interesting... |
| 20:03.04 | Merc | gonna try a restart |
| 20:03.10 | Merc | old magic trick |
| 20:03.12 | DeadZergling | 16 gigs huh, that be some serious porn you running man |
| 20:03.27 | Merc | bought a new one 2 years ago |
| 20:03.29 | Merc | ram was cheap |
| 20:03.41 | Merc | cost me a fraction more to max out |
| 20:03.50 | DeadZergling | okay, important question, is it 64 bit? :) |
| 20:04.01 | Merc | ofc! |
| 20:04.12 | Merc | brb |
| 20:04.42 | ArcanePariah | lol, well I have 32 gigs, RAM was indeed dirt cheap at the time |
| 20:04.52 | ArcanePariah | Was only like 150 I think |
| 20:05.15 | ArcanePariah | Which was good, RAM is pricy now, and 32 should last me a while. |
| 20:05.39 | Dustin| | Yaaa Im at fucking 7 gigs |
| 20:05.44 | Dustin| | I need to upgrade my ram soon |
| 20:05.52 | DeadZergling | Dustin|, I have you beat, 6 gigs! |
| 20:06.04 | Dustin| | At least it's an even number :P |
| 20:06.19 | DeadZergling | not really, is like 5984653 kb or something like that |
| 20:06.22 | Vindicator | arcane, if u use a program called ramdisk you can put the whole sc2 installation in your ram and load stuff at like 14000MB/s when loading assets. you can't do this with 16gb so you're lucky |
| 20:06.33 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|, wtf... first at that low amount and 2nd at that odd number.. what do you have, 3 2 gig and 1 1 gig stick? |
| 20:06.35 | DeadZergling | well dayum A1win, I was hoping that was my mistake... |
| 20:06.55 | ArcanePariah | Vindicator, sure... but you are then 1 crash away from complete reinstallation |
| 20:07.05 | A1win | it has like 3 parameters, just try it ;p |
| 20:07.11 | DeadZergling | may have to give up on sending actor messages at this rate and just make it work my AMAZINGLY ghetto way instead, lol |
| 20:07.13 | Dustin| | Yes Arcane, only because my brother had 2 gigs, so I gave him one of my 2 gig sticks and took one of his 1 gig so he'd have 3 |
| 20:07.18 | Vindicator | no, you can save the stuff to an image file to load whenever u want into ur RAM |
| 20:07.26 | Vindicator | and obviously never save ur map itself in it |
| 20:07.29 | ArcanePariah | Besides, its already on a SSD, RAMDISK would be marginal improvement. |
| 20:07.38 | DeadZergling | afk an hour or so anywho |
| 20:07.44 | Dustin| | I need a damn SSD as well, |
| 20:07.47 | Vindicator | SSD = 550MB/s DDR3 = aroudn 14000 |
| 20:08.04 | ArcanePariah | Vindicator, true, but that means my boot/shutdown times are increased since I have to load and save 25 gigs every time |
| 20:08.23 | Vindicator | i leave compy on all the time, but anyway just sayin :) |
| 20:08.34 | ArcanePariah | Dustin|, you are in luck, SSD are getting VERY affordable |
| 20:08.37 | Vindicator | i agree that people who don't have a stable computer it wouldn't be a good idea for tho |
| 20:08.45 | Merc | remind me to stay cool and just restart next time instead of panicking like a dumbass |
| 20:08.54 | ArcanePariah | I think they are down to like 50 cents to a gig |
| 20:09.11 | ArcanePariah | Well my computer is stable... I think :D (OCed pretty high) |
| 20:09.31 | Merc | I had some serious issues with a shitty corsair ssd a while back |
| 20:09.36 | Merc | random bsods |
| 20:09.42 | Merc | took me forever to figure out the source |
| 20:09.53 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, early SSDs were all over the place because controllers were a big factor |
| 20:10.02 | ArcanePariah | But stuff has stablizlies and matured |
| 20:10.05 | Merc | yeah apparently it had trim issues or something |
| 20:11.32 | Merc | arp |
| 20:11.40 | Merc | added ref_damage points to my building |
| 20:11.41 | Merc | still wont burn |
| 20:12.07 | ArcanePariah | Merc, are you trying to replicate the burning that terran buildings do? |
| 20:12.35 | ArcanePariah | If you are, you need 3+ actors to do it |
| 20:13.15 | Merc | I am |
| 20:13.33 | Merc | but apparently my building model doesn't have ref_damage points after all |
| 20:13.56 | ArcanePariah | Alrighty... it is a complex beast, but powerful. Do you understand how Queried and State Monitor actors work? |
| 20:14.08 | Merc | nope :p |
| 20:14.22 | ArcanePariah | Alrighty, then I guess its time to give a primer. |
| 20:14.30 | Merc | I started out in april or something, been avoiding data work |
| 20:14.42 | Merc | learned model and graphic stuff so far only |
| 20:15.03 | Merc | would love a primer though |
| 20:15.40 | ArcanePariah | State Monitor is an actor that monitors the state of the host. It uses actor terms (which can be validators, but can be other things) to determine what state it is in. You define each state, and what terms make it that state. So for example, the terran buildings have 4 states, each having an actor term that validates the unit hp percentage. |
| 20:16.03 | ArcanePariah | You also set how often the State Monitor checks states (default is 0.5, can be whatever). |
| 20:16.21 | ArcanePariah | What you can do is have events that trigger off states being changed. |
| 20:16.36 | Merc | yeah saw something like that under the events list |
| 20:16.51 | ArcanePariah | You can check which state was the previous one, and which is the current one |
| 20:17.00 | ArcanePariah | Based on this, you can send actor messages |
| 20:17.20 | ArcanePariah | In the Buildings case, it creates a Queried Actor targeting the host |
| 20:17.27 | Merc | I duplicated a terran CC now, included the actor for terran flames or whatever it was called |
| 20:17.41 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, that's the model, but not the whole story |
| 20:17.57 | Merc | went into events and renamed the events to look for the actor of my new building instead of command center |
| 20:18.35 | ArcanePariah | What Queried actors do is run an attachment query, and then for every attachment point that passes the querey (since it can be many with attach methods), it creates the actor from the Queried Actor (in building case, flames) |
| 20:19.06 | ArcanePariah | And for buildings, I'm going to assume it runs an attach query that gets all Damage attach points |
| 20:19.22 | Merc | well I sure hope so |
| 20:19.28 | Merc | or else I'm totally lost |
| 20:20.17 | ArcanePariah | State Monitors imo are pretty powerful, For instance, since one of the actor terms is Age (how long the actor has existed), you could use a state monitor to do an evolution thing for a unit, changing its appearnace as it gets "older" |
| 20:20.43 | ArcanePariah | And have certain time frames correspond to aging and do model swaps or whatnot |
| 20:21.26 | Merc | that's kinda cool |
| 20:22.25 | Merc | seems like a lot of work to just make a building catch on fire though |
| 20:22.28 | ArcanePariah | Another trick would be to do something that DotA 2 does, where if a unit is low hp, apply a new animation group and thus its animations change (DotA 2 has most heroes with a limping moving animation once they get low hp) |
| 20:22.49 | ArcanePariah | Yes, but heres the main power, with the state monitor, it adjusts automatically |
| 20:22.53 | ArcanePariah | Based on the hp loss |
| 20:23.00 | Merc | hah |
| 20:23.18 | ArcanePariah | In the terran building case, it destroys the smaller flame when it loses enough hp and replaces them with larger flame models |
| 20:23.23 | ArcanePariah | and vice versa when it gets healed |
| 20:23.55 | ArcanePariah | It allows one to centralize in a single actor what would normally take tons of events spread over every building |
| 20:24.18 | ArcanePariah | With a state monitor, all they had to do was make a single list of buildings to create it on, and they were done |
| 20:24.26 | ArcanePariah | Every building got flames |
| 20:24.30 | Merc | to make this building, I duplicated terran CC, and included the Terran Flames Large Building actor |
| 20:24.41 | Merc | that was the only one I saw that was related |
| 20:24.54 | Merc | did I even have to duplicate that actor? |
| 20:25.09 | ArcanePariah | That's the actor that is created by the queried actor. And yes it doesn't show in the links because Links doesn't show actors that are directly created by other actors |
| 20:25.12 | ArcanePariah | No |
| 20:25.25 | ArcanePariah | All you really needed to do was add your building to the state monitor create list |
| 20:26.01 | Merc | but the state monitor create list is under the flames actor, shouldnt I make a new one to not mess with the original |
| 20:27.10 | ArcanePariah | Sure, if you want to do your own states. And since you mention it, yes you probably should just create a new state monitor actor and inherit the Terran Flames one |
| 20:27.34 | ArcanePariah | And then add your building in the event list (UNit Birth Your Building -> Create) |
| 20:28.40 | Merc | gotcha |
| 20:29.01 | Merc | That's kinda what I've done (I think) |
| 20:29.18 | Merc | but I'm using a model that for some reason refuses to be exported with ref_damage points |
| 20:29.24 | Merc | which is getting really confusing |
| 20:29.54 | ArcanePariah | Well, I'm not a modeler, so sadly I can not help you there :/ |
| 20:30.28 | ArcanePariah | Although Actors are abstract, some advanced ones like State Monitors are VERY powerful |
| 20:30.31 | Merc | thanks for the help with the other stuff though! |
| 20:30.58 | Merc | I'm terrible at data stuff usually, but I have to force myself into it at this point I think |
| 20:31.41 | ArcanePariah | I do not blame you. For better or worse, the data editor was built by CS (Computer Science) people for CS people, which makes it very abstract and powerful, but also abstract and a pita if that isn't your background |
| 20:32.25 | ArcanePariah | Also, legitmately, Blizzard needs to include more documentation, most people wil not graps things like state monitors and the such without a clear description |
| 20:32.32 | ArcanePariah | grasp* |
| 20:32.40 | Merc | yeah |
| 20:32.50 | Merc | art tools documentation has been a huge help |
| 20:32.57 | Merc | especially after zolden forced me to read it |
| 20:33.07 | ArcanePariah | Yes, from what I've heard, the Art Tools docs are very extensive and informative |
| 20:33.18 | ArcanePariah | And clearly indicate how things are done along with examples |
| 20:34.06 | Merc | yeah |
| 20:34.31 | Merc | they assume a bit of basic knowledge though, but that's understandable |
| 20:34.47 | Merc | as long as stuff can be googled I'm happy |
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| 20:39.28 | ArcanePariah | Anyhow, back to the grind of coding :D |
| 20:39.35 | Merc | gl hf |
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| 20:56.14 | Obscene | Crap, I forgot to remove those Quake sounds from Evo-Frenzy lol, doing that now and removing the starcraft 1 music or maybe keep it I dunno yet |
| 20:56.43 | Obscene | And I have to send my resume.... |
| 20:56.45 | Obscene | lol |
| 20:56.50 | Merc | remove starcraft 1 music, what for? |
| 20:57.08 | Obscene | because blizzard fully remastered them and made them better in every way and included them in starcraft 2 |
| 20:57.15 | Obscene | I have the originals that sound terrible and take 20 mb of space |
| 20:57.17 | Merc | ah like that |
| 20:57.42 | Merc | well yeah I dont see a reason to have the old ones in there :p |
| 20:58.25 | Merc | add midi files from warcraft 2 instead for nostalgia boost |
| 20:59.01 | Vindicator | your soundcard works perfec... wait where is your soundcard! |
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| 21:04.00 | Obscene | hah I got those for Mini Chop Farms |
| 21:04.06 | Obscene | and that type of music wouldn't go well with it |
| 21:07.57 | Dustin| | Your mom wouldnt go well with it. |
| 21:08.13 | Vindicator | Or would she |
| 21:10.21 | Obscene | Maybe she would, maybe she wouldn't |
| 21:10.26 | Dustin| | Maybe if it was Mini Whore Farms |
| 21:10.30 | Dustin| | :O |
| 21:10.45 | Obscene | I was thinking of remaking mini shit farms |
| 21:10.55 | Obscene | with all warcraft 2 units, sprites and all |
| 21:11.00 | Obscene | but.... that's a LOT of work |
| 21:11.28 | Dustin| | Im remakng all the SC1 Melee game modes into a sc2 extension mod |
| 21:11.30 | Obscene | Plus I would have to make it so that if you block in a unit, it can be spawned in the closest ioen area |
| 21:11.43 | Obscene | Wasn't that already done dustin? |
| 21:11.50 | Dustin| | Not that I've seen |
| 21:11.59 | Obscene | lol, I entered that Diablo food contest lawl |
| 21:12.05 | Obscene | With "There is no cow burger" |
| 21:12.11 | DeadZergling | I thought you liked non-stop work Obscene |
| 21:12.15 | Dustin| | lol |
| 21:12.20 | DeadZergling | wanted to have 2 full time jobs for a house you can't enjoy |
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| 21:12.31 | Obscene | I don't enjoy sittting around the house much lol |
| 21:12.48 | Obscene | All Iw ant is to work throughout the week and not work on weekends... even if that means non stop work/sleep throughout the week |
| 21:13.05 | Bounty | pew |
| 21:13.15 | Obscene | And I said I was CONSIDERING a second fulltime job |
| 21:13.18 | Obscene | but will deff get at-least a part time job on the side |
| 21:13.30 | DeadZergling | hi B Man |
| 21:13.34 | Obscene | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/93971126/There%20is%20no%20cowburger.txt |
| 21:13.40 | Obscene | thats the recipe if anyone is interested for my entry lawl |
| 21:15.27 | ArcanePariah | sup Bounty |
| 21:15.32 | ArcanePariah | pew pew |
| 21:15.33 | Obscene | Hey Bounty |
| 21:15.43 | Obscene | bang bang(screw your dirty pew pew) |
| 21:15.46 | Bounty | ArcanePariah |
| 21:15.49 | Bounty | Behold https://www.dropbox.com/s/p05coq3s71vcgvm/Tessera03.mp4 |
| 21:15.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:16.06 | DeadZergling | was hoping that'd be Tessera04.mp4 |
| 21:16.20 | Obscene | I recognizde this music, whats it from? |
| 21:16.21 | Bounty | me too, there will be one tonight though |
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| 21:16.32 | Bounty | Its from Touhou Obscene |
| 21:16.38 | Obscene | Never heard of it |
| 21:16.39 | DeadZergling | I'm shooting for that, but getting my stages to go the way I want is taking too long |
| 21:18.31 | Obscene | http://grooveshark.com/s/The+Sore+Feet+Song/1ZHvzY?src=5 such a good song |
| 21:19.25 | DeadZergling | Need to get that going soon so I can make the damn boss finally |
| 21:19.43 | Obscene | Cool, they added new prized http://us.battle.net/arcade/en/blog/14070047/rock-the-cabinet-announcing-new-rock-on-bonus-arcade-assets-5-6-2014 |
| 21:23.12 | ArcanePariah | I love the idoit comment in there about how most of that is "useless". I think the genius forgot that someone can win with nice gameplay not a nice soundtrack... |
| 21:23.35 | Dustin| | Yeah, I htink it's nice |
| 21:24.04 | ArcanePariah | And sure, many maps already have custom artwork done... who the hell going to turn down possibly better? For all we know, you can submit your existing artwork andh ave blizzardp retty it up for you, which is priceless |
| 21:24.16 | Bounty | I'm aiming to finish up jumping, falling and collision tonight DeadZergling |
| 21:24.27 | Bounty | might need testers =P |
| 21:24.35 | Bounty | just to make sure it is 100% unbreakable |
| 21:24.56 | ArcanePariah | I think that's the biggest thing that flew over some peoples head, blizzard will make whatever YOU want, even if it is "Take our current load screen and add X to it" |
| 21:25.20 | Obscene | Yeah I would LOVE to have a theme song for my map |
| 21:25.50 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, the artwork most maps may have, but I doubt any were able to do composition unless they already had 7k lying around.. |
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| 21:26.04 | ArcanePariah | Good soundtracks are not cheap afaik |
| 21:26.16 | A1win | well, if you happen to know someone... |
| 21:26.36 | Obscene | lno kidden |
| 21:26.42 | Obscene | no kidding* |
| 21:26.45 | Obscene | shit I am tired |
| 21:27.03 | Obscene | Stayed up too late last night watching the following season 2 and trailer park boys season 7 |
| 21:27.06 | Bounty | I have someone doing a soundtrack for me, no charge |
| 21:27.31 | Obscene | Had a very strange dream, that involved kevin bacon, dope, kitties, mass murder, and liquor... |
| 21:28.15 | Obscene | Gotta say, deff in the top 10 dreams I have ever had |
| 21:30.12 | Obscene | hmmm How hard would it be to make a jukebox :/ |
| 21:30.21 | Obscene | probably not very hard |
| 21:30.27 | Obscene | using just hte music that's pre in the game |
| 21:34.00 | Obscene | Yeah, that's what I will do. I'll create a jukebox specifically for this :P |
| 21:37.13 | Obscene | Damn, I wanna see that new godzilla, looks badass |
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| 21:39.19 | Obscene | There removed my crappy starcraft 1 music |
| 21:48.35 | Bounty | Going to have a video in a few minutes DeadZergling |
| 21:48.51 | Bounty | actually no I think I'll wait |
| 21:56.44 | DeadZergling | I'm waiting until I can get levels going properly to make another demo |
| 21:56.54 | DeadZergling | really need something at least playable soon |
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| 21:59.15 | Caz_AtWork | DeadZergling: sup sup |
| 22:00.57 | DeadZergling | greetings Mr Terror |
| 22:01.27 | Obscene | Hey Catz |
| 22:01.43 | DeadZergling | you just shutup with that Obscene :P |
| 22:01.47 | Obscene | haha |
| 22:01.56 | DeadZergling | if we gonna knock anyone's name, it needs to be Bounty |
| 22:02.05 | Obscene | Mr booty what say you? |
| 22:02.08 | DeadZergling | Paper Towel Man, B O Man, Fuhrer Obounty |
| 22:02.29 | Vindicator | You can call me Vaginator if you want. |
| 22:02.44 | Obscene | Penismonger it is |
| 22:02.54 | DeadZergling | why would we want to call you that, Vindicator ? |
| 22:03.14 | Obscene | Please, please... call him penismonger |
| 22:03.39 | Vindicator | Your mom can explain :P |
| 22:03.50 | Zolden | penismonger? |
| 22:04.16 | DeadZergling | I don't know why people like to bring mom's into this |
| 22:04.22 | DeadZergling | it is only to their detriment, honestly |
| 22:04.42 | DeadZergling | very high chance of someone's mother being obese, rather unattractice |
| 22:05.04 | DeadZergling | so you really just announcing to the world, I'm so desperate and bad at getting women, that is all I could get with |
| 22:05.09 | Obscene | I like to think everyones mother is amilf... so I can hit on them. |
| 22:05.41 | Obscene | Not because I wan't their mothers, but just to make them feel awkwards |
| 22:06.08 | DeadZergling | yes I know Obscene , most of what you say is an effort to make people feel weird/bad about themselves |
| 22:06.22 | Obscene | Keep talking shit and you will be calling me daddy |
| 22:06.45 | DeadZergling | you've tried this before Obscene , you know you don't want to go there with me :) |
| 22:06.49 | Obscene | hah |
| 22:06.56 | Obscene | Wouldn't doubt it |
| 22:07.10 | DeadZergling | but I'm actually trying to troll less these days |
| 22:07.14 | DeadZergling | so I try to avoid using my powers |
| 22:07.20 | Obscene | lol |
| 22:07.29 | Obscene | My trolling is simply natural, I don't TRY to do anything |
| 22:07.53 | DeadZergling | you aren't some idiot monkey Obscene , you do have control over what you do |
| 22:08.10 | Obscene | I do have control, I Just choose to not use it. |
| 22:08.13 | Obscene | At-least here. |
| 22:08.34 | DeadZergling | anyways Caz_AtWork , what you been up to project wise? |
| 22:09.03 | Obscene | brb 30-45 minutes |
| 22:09.08 | Obscene | gotta wash dishes and defrost chicken |
| 22:10.44 | Caz_AtWork | DeadZergling: still working on understanding actor events. Likely going to mimic a dota style map.. only with my own masochistic tendencies... like.. instead of a happy blue river at the map split point... more apt to be river of lava that sets off burn behaviors ever 2s |
| 22:10.55 | Caz_AtWork | But for now... actors/events/shinies |
| 22:11.18 | Caz_AtWork | Started looking at a model with only a stand animation |
| 22:11.28 | Caz_AtWork | trying to figure out how to get it to show for say.. 2 seconds then go away |
| 22:11.37 | DeadZergling | burn behaviors aren't too bad |
| 22:11.42 | egod | when they gonna put BANK FILE SERVER SIDE, after 4 years come on! |
| 22:11.57 | Caz_AtWork | egod: lol |
| 22:11.59 | Caz_AtWork | ikr ! |
| 22:12.03 | DeadZergling | what I do is make a big region where the lava is, then do a check for all units in that region if their height is < than a certain point |
| 22:12.38 | Caz_AtWork | DeadZergling: im not confused about that so much as actors/events/shinies ;p |
| 22:12.39 | DeadZergling | then apply burning-ness if that happens |
| 22:12.50 | Caz_AtWork | or id already be doing that other part lol |
| 22:13.47 | DeadZergling | I decided my river should cause a slowing behavior to all in it for my RPG |
| 22:13.51 | DeadZergling | so it doesn't kill you, directly |
| 22:15.13 | Caz_AtWork | aye, i had considered that as well |
| 22:15.17 | Caz_AtWork | but i got more malicous |
| 22:15.21 | Caz_AtWork | >:] |
| 22:15.48 | Caz_AtWork | I wont be doing much of anything till im solid with playing this animation |
| 22:15.58 | Caz_AtWork | I'm sticking with one that wont play right until i learn to make it do as its told |
| 22:16.44 | Caz_AtWork | May have to ask some questions with specific information provided when im home |
| 22:17.57 | Caz_AtWork | Curious as far as "what i can do" .... is it possible to introduce ur own damage types? |
| 22:18.21 | Bounty | What actor message would you send if you want to hide an actor and also hide its footprint |
| 22:18.29 | Caz_AtWork | AOS for example uses physical / spell / true... could i provide additional "types" |
| 22:19.16 | Caz_AtWork | I'd like to add in types such as Fire, Ice, Poison, etc etc |
| 22:19.32 | Caz_AtWork | and have resistances/armor react differently depending on the incoming dmg |
| 22:19.44 | Caz_AtWork | not sure if that's possible. |
| 22:27.37 | DeadZergling | making that work isn't so bad caz |
| 22:27.50 | DeadZergling | is displaying it properly on weapons that is a pita |
| 22:28.44 | Caz_AtWork | Mh,, how bout the model that only has a standing animation. Is it difficult to get it to display for only 1 to 2 seconds? |
| 22:29.06 | DeadZergling | no, just play it for set duration of 2 seconds |
| 22:29.14 | DeadZergling | then destroy it using a timer |
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| 22:29.46 | DeadZergling | also probably possible to make it destroy based off the animation finishing playing |
| 22:29.54 | DeadZergling | but timer always works, lol |
| 22:30.24 | Caz_AtWork | Not sure what i was trying |
| 22:30.45 | Caz_AtWork | but whenever i changed it from time:automatic to time:duration... and specified X seconds.. it would just exist forever. |
| 22:30.49 | Caz_AtWork | Will have to look at it at home. |
| 22:31.24 | Caz_AtWork | by default it goes for about 10 seconds. |
| 22:33.47 | Caz_AtWork | I'll give the timer another go in about an hour. If unsuccessful i'll prepare some images and such so you're not theorizing issues from my poor descriptions. |
| 22:37.55 | DeadZergling | timer done right destroys, no matter what |
| 22:38.03 | DeadZergling | just set timer killit for x seconds |
| 22:38.09 | DeadZergling | when timer expires |
| 22:38.12 | DeadZergling | timername killit |
| 22:38.14 | DeadZergling | destroy |
| 22:38.20 | DeadZergling | cannot fail |
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| 22:43.14 | Obscene | black |
| 22:44.31 | Zolden | nigg |
| 22:48.31 | Caz_AtWork | Closin up shop -- see ya all in a bit |
| 22:51.59 | Obscene | RACIST! |
| 22:52.01 | Obscene | lol |
| 22:52.26 | Obscene | Hey zolden whats sideways? |
| 22:54.23 | Zolden | what's sideways? is it idiomatic expression? |
| 22:54.42 | Zolden | i can't get its literal sense |
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| 23:00.06 | DeadZergling | and turning the volume down |
| 23:00.12 | DeadZergling | nothing like listenign to gun shots to go deaf |
| 23:00.46 | Obscene | It's a jokez olden, a simple jokes |
| 23:00.52 | Zolden | how many ppl participating in the competition so far? |
| 23:01.43 | Zolden | Obscene you know jokes? good for you! there must be alot of cool laughing people with tits around you on parties |
| 23:02.04 | Zolden | maybe they let you touch the tits because you're funny |
| 23:03.58 | Bounty | Is it possible to temporarily hide a footprint? |
| 23:04.22 | DeadZergling | couldn't you just disable the footprint? |
| 23:04.24 | Obscene | You mean teporarily ignore collision? |
| 23:04.56 | Bounty | with a specific footprint? |
| 23:05.23 | Bounty | so you will ignore 1 Footprint and collide with another |
| 23:06.26 | Obscene | ahh I see |
| 23:06.45 | Obscene | Hmm you could probably do some wizardry using models |
| 23:06.52 | Obscene | and triggers |
| 23:07.11 | Bounty | whatever the solution is, it has to be via actor message |
| 23:07.25 | Bounty | set visibility does not work apparently |
| 23:10.31 | Obscene | Footprints have nothing to do with actors. |
| 23:11.04 | Bounty | they are linked |
| 23:20.30 | DeadZergling | just like you can have an effect linked to a weapon linked to a unit |
| 23:20.44 | DeadZergling | I don't see how you are going to do this via actor message bounty... |
| 23:20.58 | DeadZergling | maybe unit the actor points at, but not the actor |
| 23:21.28 | Bounty | Well GAx3 has the ability to send actor messages to actors for certain players |
| 23:21.55 | Bounty | so I just need to be able to somehow alter pathing on a player by player basis |
| 23:21.58 | DeadZergling | right, but you are talking footprint, as in blocking info and such |
| 23:22.11 | Bounty | could also block with units that have no footprint |
| 23:22.11 | DeadZergling | right? |
| 23:22.20 | Bounty | yeah |
| 23:22.24 | Bounty | but you could also use just units |
| 23:22.26 | Bounty | invisible |
| 23:22.57 | DeadZergling | that's not the problem |
| 23:23.08 | DeadZergling | you can certainly hide a unit using actors, no doubt |
| 23:23.28 | DeadZergling | but I do not see how through the actor you are going to change the footprint |
| 23:23.47 | Bounty | even if a unit has no footprint |
| 23:23.51 | Bounty | and its just basic unit collision |
| 23:23.54 | Bounty | no footprint |
| 23:24.01 | Bounty | and I use the command Set Visibility |
| 23:24.01 | DeadZergling | yea, still don't see how honestly |
| 23:24.04 | Bounty | it hides the unit |
| 23:24.08 | Bounty | but I still collide |
| 23:24.20 | DeadZergling | set visibility is not the same as hiding the unit |
| 23:24.27 | Bounty | should be =P |
| 23:24.34 | Bounty | and I know that |
| 23:24.40 | Bounty | if I use the Hide unit command it works |
| 23:24.42 | DeadZergling | what you need to do is find a way to refer to the unit |
| 23:24.46 | Bounty | problem is, its for all players |
| 23:24.48 | Bounty | lol |
| 23:24.53 | Ahli | pathing on a player basis? and how does the other computer know where that unit is going? |
| 23:25.05 | DeadZergling | what exactly are you trying to do anyways |
| 23:25.15 | Bounty | Wall Collision depending on height |
| 23:25.20 | Bounty | otherwise |
| 23:25.26 | Bounty | Walls will all be the same layout |
| 23:25.32 | Bounty | for each floor |
| 23:26.27 | DeadZergling | could you adjust the collide flags based on their height? |
| 23:26.38 | DeadZergling | for that player using upgrades, they will only ever have the 1 unit, correct? |
| 23:27.34 | Obscene | You could just stack 2 walls. |
| 23:27.42 | Obscene | give 1 wall a flying flag. |
| 23:28.19 | Obscene | than swap the collision for each case |
| 23:28.35 | Bounty | swap collision of the players unit? |
| 23:29.42 | DeadZergling | or could do a hacky solution of morphing the unit into something with different collide flags if you can't alter it that way |
| 23:36.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Caz (329ebbca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.50.158.187.202) |
| 23:36.58 | Caz | DeadZergling: Im hooome lol. This timer u spoke of to kill actor -- this still in actor events? |
| 23:37.12 | DeadZergling | yup |
| 23:37.21 | DeadZergling | actor creation event |
| 23:37.22 | Obscene | Crap.... |
| 23:37.25 | DeadZergling | create timer killit |
| 23:37.33 | Obscene | I forgot how to run actions on my map :/ |
| 23:37.33 | Obscene | haha |
| 23:37.34 | DeadZergling | timer expired event |
| 23:37.38 | DeadZergling | timername killit |
| 23:37.44 | DeadZergling | destroy |
| 23:39.25 | DeadZergling | that is a way that should absolutely always work |
| 23:39.41 | DeadZergling | but it isn't all that clever... |
| 23:40.07 | DeadZergling | personally I'd go more for Animation Play, give it a name based off what it is |
| 23:40.22 | DeadZergling | Animation Name finished event, destroy |
| 23:40.55 | DeadZergling | but sudden destroys and opacity of 0 can be good if you don't want certain parts of the animation seen, lol |
| 23:41.18 | Vindicator | https://www.madeit.com.au/Main/Item?itemId=765083 |
| 23:41.31 | Vindicator | wtf lol |
| 23:42.53 | Caz | Will do the animationplay but cant get the time duration to work |
| 23:43.22 | DeadZergling | are you giving it a time variant of 2? |
| 23:43.47 | Caz | also |
| 23:43.50 | Caz | whenever i return to the events |
| 23:43.52 | Caz | all the text is red |
| 23:44.05 | DeadZergling | that just means they aren't default for the parent it is inheriting from |
| 23:44.09 | DeadZergling | don't fret over those |
| 23:44.20 | Caz | kk |
| 23:46.38 | Caz | what is source name for animation done ? |
| 23:48.04 | Caz | it doesnt show the name of my animation in it. |
| 23:48.07 | Caz | just a list of actors |
| 23:48.11 | Caz | by the looks of it |
| 23:48.15 | Caz | or names of something lol |
| 23:49.41 | Caz | if my animation name was "ChallengeStand" |
| 23:49.56 | Caz | shoulndt AnimDone source name list "ChallengeStand" |
| 23:50.59 | Obscene | Vindicator I feel like you are the kind of guy who would buy a lot of those and just keep them in his basement |
| 23:51.08 | egod | how to attach a Model to a Unit (Right hand) |
| 23:51.10 | Caz | DeadZergling: *poke* .. i must be looking at this wrong :p |
| 23:51.17 | egod | it not working |
| 23:51.24 | Obscene | Hey egod, I saw your sprite engine thing, good work. |
| 23:51.43 | egod | thank you |
| 23:55.01 | DeadZergling | if you added ChallengeStand to the list (should have BSD in it), yes |
| 23:56.45 | DeadZergling | well egod, are you talking trigger or data? lol |
| 23:56.50 | Caz | i added it tot he list in animation play |
| 23:56.56 | Caz | but it doesnt exist in animDone |
| 23:56.58 | egod | trigger |
| 23:57.11 | DeadZergling | oh |
| 23:57.16 | DeadZergling | you need to add a term to that |
| 23:57.18 | DeadZergling | Caz: |
| 23:57.29 | DeadZergling | go to your animdone, right click, and add term |
| 23:58.48 | egod | well, i can attach model to HEAD, but the model is like flying on his head....hes not in the face of the unit...so it suck i guess....idk if there a way to fix the height of a attached item |
| 23:59.12 | Caz | DeadZergling: Huzzah! that worked lol |
| 23:59.23 | Caz | its kinda confusing when we leave fields as (none) or (any) |
| 23:59.34 | Caz | makes me wonder what's happening lol |
