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| 04:59.09 | Dzuke911 | Hi, does anyone know how to make a fadeaway effect in 3dMax for sc2 models? |
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| 06:10.26 | Bounty | pew >.< |
| 06:41.55 | Merc | pew |
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| 06:52.26 | Merc | pew x2 |
| 06:58.13 | Bounty | word |
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| 07:30.39 | Merc | whole gang is here |
| 07:30.48 | Merc | let's have an awkward silence |
| 07:32.07 | Bounty | gang? lol |
| 07:36.44 | Goa_ | so now we can bang? |
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| 07:45.37 | Bounty | Depends Goa, how many of us posses vaginas? |
| 07:46.36 | Goa_ | I have a feeling that there is 0 vaginas related to this channel. |
| 07:52.59 | Bounty | There was a single vagina but she has since left this place of shafts |
| 07:59.29 | Merc | nothing wrong with a good old sausage fest |
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| 08:05.48 | Bommes | Hmm, now my 3DS Max keyframe indicators show up again |
| 08:05.57 | Bommes | they didn't 6 hours ago |
| 08:06.09 | Bommes | I guess sometimes you just have to restart 3ds max? annoying |
| 08:11.12 | Merc | yesterday I suddenly had yellow crosshairs highlighting the grid corners |
| 08:11.23 | Merc | must have facerolled too hard |
| 08:14.52 | Bommes | :D |
| 08:15.02 | Bommes | there are too many damn options that enable themselves out of nowhere |
| 08:15.22 | Merc | all glory to the 3ds max interface and the myriad of options |
| 08:17.58 | Merc | which I know 0.1% of |
| 08:18.12 | Merc | or possibly 0.05% |
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| 09:38.35 | Bommes | quite a big difference |
| 09:38.39 | Bommes | between 0.1% and 0.05% |
| 09:39.09 | Merc | gotta play it safe |
| 09:41.09 | Bommes | now my keyframe indicators are gone again |
| 09:41.16 | Bommes | what the the fuck fuck |
| 09:41.40 | Merc | can you show me a screenshot? |
| 09:41.47 | Merc | not offering a solution, just curious |
| 09:42.03 | Bommes | yeah 1 sec |
| 09:42.07 | Bommes | restarting 3ds max |
| 09:43.19 | Bommes | I mean the key thingies that show up in the animation timeline |
| 09:43.31 | Merc | yea |
| 09:44.09 | Bommes | man I just want to know |
| 09:44.12 | Bommes | why it worked this morning |
| 09:44.15 | Bommes | hold on, restarting pc |
| 09:44.22 | Bommes | then you will get a screenshot regardless if they show up or not |
| 09:44.26 | Merc | :p |
| 09:44.32 | Merc | hang in there |
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| 09:51.11 | Bommes | now I just have to wait 5 minutes until 3ds max loads up again |
| 09:51.13 | Bommes | the joy |
| 09:51.18 | Merc | harsh |
| 09:51.33 | Bommes | the suspense whether or not rebooting will work |
| 09:51.48 | Bommes | better than any tv drama |
| 09:52.36 | Bommes | ... and it did not work |
| 09:53.00 | Bommes | I'm not gonna lie, I don't get it. |
| 09:54.19 | Merc | screenshot time |
| 09:54.24 | Merc | the suspense is killing me |
| 09:54.31 | Bommes | oh |
| 09:54.34 | Bommes | actually I found out right now |
| 09:54.37 | Bommes | I'm just an idiot |
| 09:54.44 | Merc | you werent selecting the bones? :D |
| 09:55.07 | Bommes | well yeah basically, since I'm doing animations over the material editor (no bones) |
| 09:55.20 | Merc | ahh |
| 09:55.23 | Bommes | I apparently didn't have to select the model to be able to animate it |
| 09:55.34 | Bommes | and instead I had the hit test around it selected |
| 09:55.46 | Bommes | stupid error |
| 09:55.54 | Bommes | didn't know it wasn't selected |
| 09:56.03 | Bommes | also a bit of sleep deprivation :D |
| 09:56.11 | Bommes | well |
| 09:56.18 | Bommes | glad I solved that mystery... |
| 09:56.54 | Merc | feels good doesn't it |
| 09:57.25 | Bommes | not really lol |
| 09:57.28 | Bommes | I think I should sleep more |
| 09:58.12 | Merc | should always sleep more |
| 09:58.18 | Merc | thing is, cant do shit while sleeping |
| 09:59.30 | Bommes | true |
| 11:27.46 | Zolden | implemented hp bars for unity game http://i.snag.gy/KGQfY.jpg |
| 11:44.16 | Goa_ | niiicre |
| 11:44.22 | Goa_ | nice* |
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| 13:35.37 | Goa_ | yay cant connect to bnet |
| 13:38.27 | Zolden | i heard they banned all players who have "goa" in their nicknames, because one of blizz ceo's had a bad trip in goa, and donesn't want to be reminded about it |
| 13:39.04 | Goa_ | you can only get good trips in Goa |
| 13:39.29 | Zolden | probably he took too much lsd in a bad company |
| 13:40.13 | Zolden | and it was in a cramped club instead of a beach |
| 13:41.17 | zenxu | meh I transfered from mapping to do other programs to help with work |
| 13:41.41 | zenxu | too bad I would need to learn HTML and XML to be more efficient in coding stuff for work |
| 13:41.44 | Goa_ | http://us.battle.net/arcade/en/blog/13733522/plugged-in-4-9-2014 |
| 13:41.47 | zenxu | but I guess Ill do simple programs |
| 13:43.10 | zenxu | interesting |
| 13:43.20 | zenxu | over a month to submit map for the contest |
| 13:43.23 | zenxu | I think its too little |
| 13:43.25 | zenxu | for me |
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| 14:08.57 | Zolden | https://scontent-a-fra.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/10245310_714719001925251_382563896091980442_n.jpg |
| 14:09.32 | Zolden | japans have always been fun, not just in modern japanese ads |
| 14:11.25 | Dustin | Goa |
| 14:13.59 | Zolden | Goa |
| 14:15.07 | zenxu | Boa |
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| 14:50.54 | Goa_ | Japans are Japans |
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| 15:35.15 | Zolden | how you guys like my 2d art? http://i.snag.gy/gScBC.jpg |
| 15:35.20 | Zolden | is it look pro? |
| 15:38.26 | A1win | looks like it's made in MS paint |
| 15:39.20 | Zolden | but still pro? |
| 15:41.33 | Zolden | A1win btw, seen hp bars I made? |
| 15:45.44 | A1win | yeah |
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| 15:46.28 | A1win | they were a bit too thick |
| 15:46.53 | Fenix_ | little question, if in a trigger you have a bunch of actions, then a while loop, then a bunch of actions. Is it gonna go through all action including the while, or will it wait for the while to complete before doing the rest of the actions? |
| 15:47.25 | Fenix_ | so you could have like 2 while loop in the same triggers |
| 15:47.32 | Fenix_ | runnin at the same time |
| 15:47.33 | A1win | depends on what actions are in the while loop |
| 15:47.51 | A1win | if the actions in the while loop are executed in a separate thread, then those threads will live their own life |
| 15:48.02 | Zolden | A1win yea, made them thinner |
| 15:48.39 | A1win | Fenix_, there's no such thing as "at the same time" except in parallel processing, which the SC2 script engine doesn't use |
| 15:49.32 | A1win | but what you're thinking is probably something that can be done in a simpler way anyway |
| 15:49.49 | Fenix_ | there is most likely a better way ya... |
| 15:51.47 | turtles1 | Fenix - the trigger will complete the while loop before continuing to the code after it |
| 15:52.03 | Fenix_ | k |
| 15:52.30 | turtles1 | unless you specifically put the code in a sub function and tell it to run as a thread and have wait commands in the subthreads |
| 15:53.14 | turtles1 | Fenix, may I ask what you're trying to do? maybe I could help? |
| 15:53.58 | turtles1 | you want the triggers in the "while" loop to run, but not instantly? |
| 15:54.17 | turtles1 | whilst you want the code after the while loop to run? |
| 15:58.35 | Fenix_ | well i was just wondering mostly... and first ill try to simplify my triggers... caus right now eh, its pretty messy >.< |
| 16:01.34 | Zolden | another piece of art http://i.snag.gy/MXlOY.jpg |
| 16:15.55 | turtles1 | wrote a near perfect starcraft 2 harassment script for an AI player including spell usage. Trying to get the AI to be able to blink intelligently has doubled the size of the code and made it riddled with bugs |
| 16:16.09 | turtles1 | fuck blink |
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| 16:28.02 | mille25 | salve. |
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| 16:37.11 | Zolden | just drawn it http://i.snag.gy/XEnkQ.jpg |
| 16:37.17 | Zolden | does it look like a tank shell? |
| 16:37.26 | Zolden | or like a lipstick? |
| 16:38.44 | A1win | looks like some kind of a pen or something |
| 16:38.53 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 16:39.08 | Zolden | how to make it shellier? |
| 16:39.41 | A1win | google image search shows that the tip is much longer |
| 16:39.51 | Goa_ | nice lipstick, war of peace |
| 16:40.24 | A1win | and the casing isn't a straight cylinder like that |
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| 16:56.53 | Zolden | what about these guys? http://i.snag.gy/rILJ3.jpg |
| 16:58.34 | DeadZergling | uh, what is it supposed to be/ |
| 16:59.15 | Zolden | icon for my unity game |
| 16:59.25 | Zolden | minnigun ammo |
| 16:59.41 | DeadZergling | the tops are weird |
| 16:59.52 | DeadZergling | looks more like weird torches then ammo |
| 16:59.54 | Zolden | it's copper |
| 17:00.27 | DeadZergling | since when do bullet tops resemble ice cream cones? |
| 17:01.37 | DeadZergling | I'd expect something much more rigid |
| 17:01.45 | Zolden | since hitler pushed them in his ass and cried they are too thin |
| 17:02.25 | Zolden | well, i don't know how to do shapes |
| 17:02.34 | Zolden | only ellipse |
| 17:02.45 | Zolden | there should be curves somwhere |
| 17:04.19 | Merc | just make shitloads of tiny ellipsis |
| 17:05.39 | Zolden | that's my plan |
| 17:05.55 | Zolden | 1 pixel sized ellipse is a perfect solution |
| 17:06.22 | DeadZergling | I'm sure you can at least make a rigid triangle and then flood fill it Zolden :P |
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| 17:10.42 | DeadZergling | Hi Ahli, quick question, does Zolden's minigun ammo pic ( http://i.snag.gy/rILJ3.jpg ) make you think of A.) Brutal Minigun Ammo or B.) Ordering 3 cones at McDonald's |
| 17:11.42 | Ahli | mcdonalds uses metal plates with a 90 degree angle over here |
| 17:13.00 | Ahli | can't think further. I'm exhausted... |
| 17:13.48 | Ahli | 6h group project work and 2 hours of boring lecture, yay |
| 17:13.50 | Zolden | crap, now i want to visit mcdonalds |
| 17:14.04 | Zolden | lucky i'm too lazy to go there |
| 17:14.30 | Zolden | chicken wings will do the job |
| 17:14.42 | Ahli | I'm working with 2 studens from moscow... where is there cow in the name? |
| 17:19.58 | Goa_ | junk fooders |
| 17:21.08 | Goa_ | Its cheaper for me to order real food (meal) which is delivered each day than to use mcdonalds to feed myself |
| 17:21.29 | Zolden | Ahli cow in the name? |
| 17:22.08 | Zolden | Goa_ yea, normal food is cheaper, and I eat it like 95% |
| 17:26.04 | Ahli | mowCOW, moooohhh |
| 17:26.10 | Ahli | *mosCOW |
| 17:29.33 | Zolden | lol |
| 17:29.52 | Zolden | Ahli like my hp bars? http://i.snag.gy/2x4lY.jpg |
| 17:30.17 | Zolden | in russian moscow sounds like moskva, and "kva" is waht toads say when they say things |
| 17:36.10 | DeadZergling | lol Zolden |
| 17:36.59 | DeadZergling | your hp bars make me think of picture boxes in visual studio |
| 17:40.32 | Zolden | I must keep shit simple to target mobiles as a possible platform, so 2 triangles per hp is maximum I can afford |
| 17:40.44 | Zolden | will just reduce opacity a bit |
| 17:41.54 | DeadZergling | Getting rid of the borders be good too |
| 17:46.44 | Zolden | there are borders in sc2 |
| 17:46.54 | Zolden | without them they look a bit awkward |
| 17:47.01 | Zolden | like shitty graphical errors |
| 17:47.02 | DeadZergling | yes, but those don't look like a hello world first application |
| 17:47.30 | Zolden | with reduced opacity will be better |
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| 18:22.29 | mille25 | oh my fucking god |
| 18:22.35 | mille25 | just spent 5 hours searching an FPS issue |
| 18:22.41 | mille25 | and finally solved it.... |
| 18:23.00 | mille25 | hiding terrain cells does NOT equal hiding terrain |
| 18:23.02 | mille25 | >_> |
| 18:26.22 | Ahli | interesting |
| 18:26.34 | Ahli | but hiding cells is better than showing cells? |
| 18:26.53 | mille25 | minimally |
| 18:27.13 | mille25 | Hiding terrain actually hides the geometry as a whole, and completely removes it from the render path. |
| 18:27.19 | mille25 | Hiding cells just seems to hide the textures. |
| 18:27.28 | mille25 | went from 30 to 500FPS |
| 18:27.32 | Ahli | :D |
| 18:27.34 | mille25 | with farclip 1000 |
| 18:28.50 | mille25 | it was just weird because i just saw a black thread |
| 18:28.54 | mille25 | *screen |
| 18:29.00 | mille25 | destroyed all existing actors and units |
| 18:29.06 | mille25 | analysed actorlivedump files |
| 18:29.06 | mille25 | etc |
| 18:29.16 | mille25 | but still only had 30fps |
| 18:40.22 | mille25 | http://us.battle.net/arcade/en/blog/13733522 |
| 18:40.23 | mille25 | :o |
| 18:46.40 | pirate | mille how do I take advantage of your discovery? |
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| 18:48.02 | pirate | oh look, they posted my demo |
| 18:48.10 | mille25 | if you are having maps without terrain you should always use hide terrain instead of hide terrain cells to maximize fps. :) |
| 18:48.42 | mille25 | for scu, as an example, we have maps or parts of maps which dont use terrain, so we hide the terrain and then increase the farclip for better looks |
| 18:48.58 | mille25 | because terrain is actually the biggest FPS killer, not doodads. |
| 18:49.05 | Goa_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YH9rEjS2O0w |
| 18:49.07 | mille25 | (at least with high farclip) |
| 18:49.21 | pirate | ahh, thanks |
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| 21:27.53 | Zolden | checkthis dudes http://i.snag.gy/ElLkn.jpg |
| 21:32.10 | DeadZergling | what Ukraine is going to look like in a few months? |
| 21:35.13 | Zolden | lol |
| 21:35.24 | Zolden | in ukraine case there should be dead pig in there |
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| 22:13.40 | Fenix_ | what is the best way to create a smart target similar to the widow mine, where only 1 unit will attack even if multiple are in range. |
| 22:14.11 | Fenix_ | is it like, adding a behavior on the target so the other turrets can't shoot? (I'm making a smart turret) |
| 22:14.24 | Fenix_ | cant shoot it* |
| 22:14.39 | pirate | I don't know |
| 22:14.51 | pirate | but why don't you look at the widow mine to investigate? |
| 22:15.10 | Fenix_ | good point. |
| 22:17.14 | Fenix_ | umm widow mine is a complex unit, kinda.. xD |
| 22:24.50 | duckies | apperently it uses markers |
| 22:24.59 | duckies | cool to know =D |
| 22:27.15 | Fenix_ | well |
| 22:27.19 | Fenix_ | .. |
| 22:27.38 | Fenix_ | and how does that works? |
| 22:29.39 | duckies | yea, marers are tricky and I only ever used "Match Flags ID" to prevent effects spawned from presistent damaging same unit multiple times |
| 22:31.37 | duckies | but the gist of it is that you make effect mark unit that it affected and then use "no markers" validator to tell game to ignore marked units |
| 22:34.48 | duckies | you'll probably have to go through weapons effects and see how markers affect it, try to change/remove them, observe changes and figure it out |
| 22:34.49 | Fenix_ | ez pz, used a validator count behavior. When the attack is initiated it adds the behavior to the target and other turrets can't target the unit with the behavior. So only one shoot. |
| 22:34.55 | duckies | or ask someone exprienced :D |
| 22:35.39 | duckies | or that, behaviors make everything easy :> |
| 22:35.48 | Fenix_ | hehe |
| 22:38.34 | Zolden | adds doubled_beak behavior to duckies |
| 22:39.01 | duckies | double quack |
| 22:39.24 | Zolden | duckies go unity maybe? |
| 22:39.34 | Zolden | there you could create as many retro games as you want |
| 22:40.13 | duckies | eh, I don't feel like it right now |
| 22:40.15 | duckies | maybe later |
| 22:41.07 | duckies | why the hell am I even awake at this hour |
| 22:41.20 | duckies | this isn't supposed to be happening >.> |
| 22:42.01 | Zolden | closes duck's eyes with scotch tape |
| 22:43.08 | Fenix_ | omg |
| 22:44.41 | Zolden | Fenix_ waht genre you making games in? |
| 22:44.57 | Fenix_ | I'm remaking Moonbase commander |
| 22:45.11 | Fenix_ | its a turn by turn strategic game |
| 22:47.28 | Zolden | show me a screen |
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| 22:52.18 | Fenix_ | there is nothing much to see |
| 22:52.29 | Fenix_ | better look the original game to have an idea |
