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| 02:30.57 | Repo | New announcement: Star Bar - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/star-bar/ |
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| 04:27.40 | Nytemare3701 | Hey mapsters, how would I go about creating a switch with a comparison as the condition? |
| 04:28.57 | Nytemare3701 | Comparison isn't a valid selection for switch conditions, since they only return true or false |
| 04:29.07 | Nytemare3701 | so I would need to have ranges as the new conditions |
| 04:29.10 | Nytemare3701 | how would I do that? |
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| 06:19.36 | Scorp_ | anyone around? |
| 06:23.42 | duckies | not at all |
| 06:24.09 | Scorp_ | nice |
| 06:24.32 | Scorp_ | a bug in my collision system has been riddling me for some time |
| 06:25.45 | Scorp_ | it basically just calculates an angle on impact between a ball and a wall, and then outputs the resulting bounce direction for the ball |
| 06:27.16 | Scorp_ | it works perfectly if the collision is near horizontal, but when collision is near vertical, the ball simply moves through the wall, despite the resulting direction being the opposite |
| 06:28.48 | duckies | reads what scorp had to say and slowly becomes transparent until it's like he never was there in the first place |
| 06:29.23 | Scorp_ | that's why I asked if anybody was around first ;) |
| 06:30.42 | duckies | though I do remember that angles in sc2 were somewhat whacky, tried debugging angles to see what sc sees? |
| 06:31.03 | duckies | other than that, I'm not here :D |
| 06:31.15 | Scorp_ | yes, that's what I did :S |
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| 12:38.41 | Goa_ | I have no motives to work on any of my maps |
| 12:39.37 | Goa_ | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/ HAHA |
| 12:57.29 | duckies | too bad that no amount of shamanic magic can make me love mapster :| |
| 12:58.59 | duckies | not the community, layout & the way it's build. I almost wish it woud drown in hacks/attacks so that we could move on to something more flexible |
| 12:59.19 | duckies | but then again we'd lose numerous posts/answers |
| 12:59.31 | duckies | sigh |
| 12:59.59 | duckies | I guess I'll go call that vashikaran baba for a solution to my mapster depression problem |
| 13:02.32 | duckies | goa, go make a new map for the contest |
| 13:02.50 | duckies | and we'll see whose new map scores more, your or mine :D |
| 13:09.41 | Merc | wasn't there a subreddit for sc2 modding |
| 13:09.54 | Merc | looked all fancy and stuff |
| 13:09.59 | Merc | but completely dead ofc |
| 13:14.18 | duckies | as dead as blizzards attempt to hype RtC contest, judging by the amount of replies in test overview topick :D |
| 13:14.23 | Goa_ | duckies I already started making 3 new map and I like non of it |
| 13:15.00 | Goa_ | so I am actually not making them |
| 13:15.02 | duckies | I started making 4 last month but ended all of them cause they were meh |
| 13:15.27 | duckies | so now since sunday I'm making a new map |
| 13:15.43 | duckies | I call it "Probe Town Defense", awesome, right? |
| 13:16.23 | Goa_ | yeah sounds so |
| 13:17.01 | duckies | you're a little probe and you defend the town of probes ruled by probe king. somehow I feel like not dropping this one |
| 13:17.24 | duckies | probably it's even possible to finish it in 1 and a half months left :D |
| 13:19.44 | duckies | somehow I think I should do something serious, but fuck that though! |
| 13:19.48 | duckies | *thought |
| 13:19.53 | Merc | do what you want, man |
| 13:20.01 | Merc | that's what's important |
| 13:20.24 | Merc | do what inspires you and all that shit |
| 13:24.08 | duckies | It's kinda love-hate relationship. one day I'm happy and inspired and other day I'm empty and could just die for all I care since everything is devoid of reason and/or meaning. So nothing is important! except for the little probes that will inevitably become ling playthings.. I mean their dead carcases and pieces of their adorable ears will become toys for lings to play with.. such a sad fate T_T |
| 13:24.26 | Merc | harsh |
| 13:24.55 | Goa_ | I have constant other day feeling.D |
| 13:25.17 | Merc | get a kitten |
| 13:25.55 | duckies | yeah, go get yourself an ocelot |
| 13:26.17 | duckies | it's fun, I'm sure of it |
| 13:26.25 | Merc | those things are fucking expensive arent they |
| 13:27.45 | duckies | they are ;| |
| 14:38.00 | Goa_ | dogs eat kittens hence dogs > kitten (thats why I have 3 of them) |
| 14:49.17 | A1win | can a range actor's tint be changed with actor messages somehow? |
| 14:49.29 | A1win | or is the icon tint a separate thing |
| 15:04.21 | Goa_ | maybe you can change with catalogs |
| 15:05.09 | A1win | that changes it for the entire type |
| 15:05.20 | A1win | all units with that ID, that is |
| 15:05.25 | A1win | err, actors |
| 15:05.52 | A1win | might be easier to just put multiple of them on top of each other and fade opacity <.< |
| 15:06.01 | A1win | if they even use opacity |
| 15:06.34 | turtles1 | anyone know what the difference between "pathing cost between two points" and "AI pathing cost" is? |
| 15:06.44 | turtles1 | from the description it sounds like they do the same thing |
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| 16:36.31 | Goa_ | hmm http://us.battle.net/arcade/en/blog/13720685/rock-the-cabinet-contest-entries-april-8-4-8-2014 |
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| 16:37.22 | hobbidude | can anyone tell what assets are used in the portrait buttons used in the rewards section of bnet? |
| 16:42.08 | duckies | I must be old, I'm feeling grumpy and unexcited looking at all the familiar map names on that list. the lack of color/and screenshots/presentation doesn't help it either. what a drought. |
| 16:42.56 | duckies | you mean what button borders are used for portraits? |
| 16:44.10 | hobbidude | yes ty |
| 16:44.29 | hobbidude | no like the regular animated protraits |
| 16:44.38 | hobbidude | i mean like in the rewards section portraits |
| 16:44.51 | duckies | static portraits of units? |
| 16:44.52 | hobbidude | or how do i find out at least |
| 16:45.00 | hobbidude | yes |
| 16:45.11 | hobbidude | like when you pick an avatar too |
| 16:56.30 | duckies | if you mean portrait images, I could have sworn I saw portrait dump sheet in assets but I can't find it now ;/ |
| 16:56.47 | hobbidude | no not the images |
| 16:56.55 | hobbidude | the button border around them |
| 16:58.49 | duckies | oh that |
| 17:00.14 | duckies | you'll probably need to extract that from Battle.net.mpq |
| 17:00.23 | hobbidude | how do i find them |
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| 17:01.46 | duckies | the files are in your sc2 folder, how to find the borders inside mpq - I don't know. Back when I wanted defeat skull from b-net I just extracted everything and went through all the stuff |
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| 17:02.47 | duckies | how to extrat stuff from mpq - look it up on internet, you'll probably need some mpq extractor, googled tutorials usually cover on that |
| 17:02.58 | Helral | meow |
| 17:03.25 | duckies | hears meowing and hides |
| 17:03.40 | Deaod | ah, the cat is back. |
| 17:03.48 | Helral | is it duck season? *grin* |
| 17:04.01 | turtles1 | ducks head into shell |
| 17:04.27 | Helral | starts spinning the shell around real fast. |
| 17:04.42 | turtles1 | what is this? mario cart? |
| 17:04.43 | Helral | meows innocently |
| 17:05.01 | Helral | don't think mario kart has a shell with ducks in it. |
| 17:05.07 | duckies | hides into underground via hidden backdor hatch in the bottom of turtle shell |
| 17:05.14 | hobbidude | found part of it |
| 17:05.32 | turtles1 | ahhh!!! duckies touched me in my special place! |
| 17:05.50 | Helral | they prolly threw up there, with all that spinning. |
| 17:05.54 | duckies | yes, quite confortable in here |
| 17:06.00 | hobbidude | duckies is there a way to get the proper names? |
| 17:06.04 | duckies | excuse all the vomit though :D |
| 17:06.13 | duckies | dunno, probably.. not? |
| 17:06.19 | duckies | ah |
| 17:06.30 | Helral | proper names of? |
| 17:06.34 | duckies | wait, I think I remember something about listfiles or something like that |
| 17:06.43 | hobbidude | the files exported from the mpq |
| 17:06.54 | Helral | ow I can prolly generate a listfiles for it. |
| 17:07.16 | hobbidude | there's like one on file in mapster |
| 17:07.29 | hobbidude | im new to mpq editing tho |
| 17:08.33 | Helral | btw the listfile file is probably included inside the mpq |
| 17:08.50 | hobbidude | so how would i implement this? |
| 17:09.11 | hobbidude | is it like just a reference guide or does it rename everything to its proper name? |
| 17:09.29 | hobbidude | shit there some really fucking interesting things in here :) |
| 17:11.00 | Helral | which mpq are you looking at? |
| 17:11.06 | hobbidude | battlenet |
| 17:11.25 | hobbidude | just extracted it all |
| 17:12.11 | Helral | use https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13276752/mpqediten64.zip to open the archive, it contains the correct names then. |
| 17:12.41 | hobbidude | is this just ladiks? |
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| 17:12.53 | hobbidude | cuz thats what i used |
| 17:13.08 | Bommes | wazzup |
| 17:13.10 | Helral | yeah, but unlike ladiks it knows several locations of listfiles inside mpq's |
| 17:13.27 | Helral | so it can figure out the names for you instead of requiring you to figure it out yourself. |
| 17:13.43 | Deaod | theres only one listfile AFAIK |
| 17:14.05 | TwoDie | ohhh ffs these bugs :/ im with 1 mana, enemy turn that has 0/5 mana units, weapon and is paladin |
| 17:14.08 | Helral | Deaod: depends on the version of the mpq :P |
| 17:14.29 | hobbidude | so do i just extract? |
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| 17:14.38 | Helral | you can open it, no need to extract. |
| 17:14.43 | Helral | the zip |
| 17:14.46 | Helral | yeah just extract |
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| 17:14.55 | Helral | roflol, I was thinking one step further. |
| 17:15.09 | hobbidude | ya i ment the mpq |
| 17:15.16 | Deaod | you realize that the file you linked uses StormLib, right? |
| 17:15.22 | hobbidude | you can't exactly review inside the editor |
| 17:15.25 | Helral | prolly does yeah XD |
| 17:15.38 | Helral | you can browse the archive with it. |
| 17:15.41 | Helral | at least I can. |
| 17:16.01 | Helral | and can open files from inside the archive. |
| 17:16.06 | Helral | it then extracts it as needed. |
| 17:16.12 | Deaod | http://zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 17:16.15 | hobbidude | nope |
| 17:16.17 | hobbidude | no names |
| 17:16.25 | Helral | hmmm weird. it shows names for me. |
| 17:16.54 | hobbidude | do i have to set a setting somewhere |
| 17:16.56 | hobbidude | or convert |
| 17:17.14 | Helral | I didn't do anything like that |
| 17:17.39 | hobbidude | what is file assocations? |
| 17:17.47 | TwoDie | forever stuck in this game state http://snag.gy/oqcR9.jpg |
| 17:18.54 | Deaod | file associations is what file endings to associate with ladik's mpq editor |
| 17:19.29 | Helral | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/13276752/%28listfile%29 <-- listfile that ladik's lists for me inside the mpq. |
| 17:21.48 | hobbidude | what do i do with that? |
| 17:22.06 | Deaod | use custom open and specify that file as an additional listfile |
| 17:22.21 | Goa_ | what is the event which can detect if I use effect target ability in targeting phase? |
| 17:22.56 | duckies | trigger event? |
| 17:24.03 | Goa_ | yes |
| 17:24.28 | duckies | if you mean "how do I detect in triggers when player targers ability (before pressing button to launch it)" then I'd answer "I've never seen an event for that" |
| 17:24.48 | duckies | *targets |
| 17:25.04 | Goa_ | yes that is:D |
| 17:25.08 | Ahli | targeting mode event thingy? |
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| 17:25.39 | Goa_ | I think I knew once how to do it:) |
| 17:25.46 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/661/h.gif |
| 17:25.52 | duckies | :o |
| 17:25.57 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 17:26.11 | duckies | apperently there is a "target mode updated" event |
| 17:26.26 | duckies | never seen it before, and it has no description, but it might be what you want? |
| 17:26.44 | duckies | also, delph, that's awesome |
| 17:27.20 | duckies | at least particles, I'm just not too fond of cartoony wow-style :s |
| 17:27.53 | Goa_ | yeah I dont remember of "target mode updated" event too |
| 17:28.02 | Goa_ | but seems that will work:D |
| 17:29.18 | hobbidude | nope no luck; ill just cruise along anyways - tons of interesting stuff |
| 17:30.00 | Delphinium | Thanks~ |
| 17:31.21 | Delphinium | Zolden is offline, I have some problems which may need his help. |
| 17:33.07 | Delphinium | Is anyone aware that the standard splat models can't be lamped by an in game light source? |
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| 17:35.46 | TwoDie | delphi http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/11884298499 ?? |
| 17:36.32 | Goa_ | splats just have too many problems:D |
| 17:37.42 | Delphinium | I know that problem, but I forget the simplest solution. |
| 17:38.36 | Delphinium | did you use the flipbooks or UV animations? |
| 17:41.27 | Delphinium | I asked that because someone may think that make all spalt textures in one dds file maybe a good solution. |
| 17:43.40 | hobbidude | kk done lookin at everything |
| 17:43.59 | hobbidude | now again how do i get the exported files to have proper names instead of the coded ones? |
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| 18:21.01 | turtles1 | night |
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| 18:25.15 | Zolden | as I expected, UI in unity again simple and fast to implement |
| 18:25.55 | Delphinium | Is anyone aware that the standard splat models can't be lamped by an in game light source? |
| 18:26.47 | Delphinium | This problem is for zolden the choosen one, and hardtile layer can't be used. |
| 18:27.36 | Zolden | Delphinium I don't care abotu sc2 shaders adnymore, I'm in a haven dimension |
| 18:27.52 | Zolden | though, I'd suppose to inspect all flags |
| 18:29.00 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 18:29.47 | Delphinium | So you join the U3D family. |
| 18:30.05 | Zolden | yes, and I'm in love with it |
| 18:31.10 | Delphinium | Yeah, that's interesting. |
| 18:35.35 | TwoDie | no its not! |
| 18:39.45 | Zolden | yes it's yes |
| 18:43.05 | Zolden | TwoDie now i know how to do UI, hp bars and minimap |
| 18:43.38 | Zolden | so now it will rape everyone in the eyes with its long huge penis of aesthetics |
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| 19:06.19 | Bommes | are you learning to make an RTS in Unity? |
| 19:06.26 | Bommes | since minimap |
| 19:06.44 | Bommes | but yeah, Unity is great |
| 19:08.23 | Zolden | Bommes my game is rather action, but with sc2 kind of view |
| 19:08.46 | Bommes | k |
| 19:08.53 | Zolden | wanna see a screen? |
| 19:08.58 | Bommes | sounds cool :) I read up on unity as well in the last month |
| 19:09.07 | Bommes | but probably won't do anything with it for the next few months |
| 19:09.11 | Bommes | yes! |
| 19:09.18 | Bommes | always |
| 19:09.58 | Zolden | Bommes http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/494/unity_tank_trooper.gif |
| 19:10.02 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/654/unity_tank_physics.gif |
| 19:10.08 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/443/tank_att_2.gif |
| 19:10.11 | Zolden | different features |
| 19:10.52 | Bommes | woah, that looks awesome |
| 19:10.56 | Bommes | how long have you been working on it? |
| 19:11.13 | Zolden | started 2 weeks ago |
| 19:11.25 | Bommes | all self made assets or did you get them from the asset store? |
| 19:11.41 | Zolden | made everything except trooper's animations |
| 19:12.08 | Bommes | it looks really, really good :) can't wait to see more of that |
| 19:13.28 | Zolden | oh, glad u like |
| 19:13.48 | Bommes | I hope to make a 2D game in Unity at some point |
| 19:13.51 | Zolden | soon will finish, only UI left to do, then levels |
| 19:14.02 | Bommes | but first I have to stop procrastinating shit so much |
| 19:14.03 | Zolden | yea, everybody like 2d :) |
| 19:14.30 | Zolden | best antiprocrastinating measure is turn internet connection off |
| 19:14.37 | Bommes | I really like their 2D features that they introduced last year or something |
| 19:14.42 | DeadZergling | not zolden though, he is gonna make a game in 7d |
| 19:14.54 | Bommes | with importing sprites and making animations and slicing spritesheets etc all in unity |
| 19:15.19 | Bommes | because that part is just the annoying shit hurdle that prevents most people from starting to program a game |
| 19:15.46 | Bommes | in my opinion |
| 19:15.58 | Bommes | all the low-level image importing etc |
| 19:16.22 | Bommes | at least in my case it does :D |
| 19:19.28 | Zolden | for now anything i learned in unity looks very smart and good made to save all possible time |
| 19:19.53 | DeadZergling | is a good point anyways Bommes, know I'm less than happy with myself in a number of ways for starting to make icons for armor/weapons |
| 19:20.07 | DeadZergling | now every new armor and weapon has to have one |
| 19:20.38 | Bommes | haha :) and it never stops |
| 19:20.44 | Bommes | once you add something, you just have to add more and more |
| 19:21.07 | Bommes | on top of that |
| 19:21.41 | DeadZergling | yea, think I'm up to around 300 icons atm |
| 19:25.08 | DeadZergling | makes me dread new areas honestly |
| 19:25.12 | DeadZergling | means more icons.. |
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| 20:24.21 | TwoDie | qq tt |
| 20:25.35 | Zolden | pp jj |
| 20:41.03 | TwoDie | šš įį |
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| 21:00.22 | Goa_ | Zolden http://thepiratebay.se/torrent/9915504/Rick_and_Morty_S01E10_Close_Rick-counters_of_the_Rick_Kind_(1280 :D |
| 21:00.30 | Goa_ | I just noticed it |
| 21:01.35 | Zolden | I noticed it yesterday |
| 21:01.42 | Zolden | but only watched 5 minutes |
| 21:01.49 | Zolden | I like how it started |
| 21:10.42 | Zolden | Goa_ you better show me a screen form your unity game |
| 21:12.18 | Goa_ | I am not really working on it |
| 21:12.42 | Zolden | lucky there's not twodie to punch you for this |
| 21:13.18 | Goa_ | I need a free day to make my pseudo random platform generator |
| 21:13.40 | Zolden | what you spend your days time for |
| 21:14.39 | Goa_ | doing nothing is number 1 priority |
| 21:15.01 | DeadZergling | you know, .3 day +.4 day + .2 day + .1 day can be like 1 free day |
| 21:16.06 | Goa_ | not really, I dont like getting interupted |
| 21:16.53 | Zolden | yea, nothing's better than spend 12 hours on programming something |
| 21:17.42 | Goa_ | nice Rick Morty start |
| 21:17.57 | DeadZergling | yea, is terrible coming back, possibly having new ideas |
| 21:18.06 | DeadZergling | the 12 hour burn out session is much better in all cases |
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| 21:21.40 | Zolden | lol http://i691.photobucket.com/albums/vv272/i_eron/mchb_child_mortality_pub_11.png |
| 21:21.53 | Zolden | fun how they used black color for white and red for black |
| 21:22.12 | Zolden | would blacks feel hurt if they used black for black? |
| 21:27.28 | DeadZergling | that would be amusing, could use white for white as well |
| 21:27.35 | DeadZergling | show that all kids who die are black |
| 21:27.57 | Zolden | yea :) |
| 21:28.09 | DeadZergling | could use red for russian kids |
| 21:30.22 | Zolden | and transparent for ghost kids |
| 21:30.57 | DeadZergling | and sick teal for Mozared kids |
| 21:32.21 | Zolden | red should be for daltonic kids |
| 21:32.33 | Zolden | or it's called "color blind"? |
| 21:34.05 | DeadZergling | you are a daltonic kid Zolden ? |
| 21:51.55 | *** part/#sc2mapster Goa_ (~hookah604@91.83.198.203.pool.invitel.hu) |
| 22:13.35 | *** join/#sc2mapster Lajjla (~nevzets@unaffiliated/nevzets) |
| 22:28.59 | Bommes | Hmm, my 3DS Max doesn't show the key indicators anymore |
| 22:29.06 | Bommes | I see which frames have keys, but I can't delete them |
| 22:29.08 | Bommes | wtf |
| 22:29.15 | Bommes | does anyone know what is up there? |
| 23:10.18 | DeadZergling | anyone happen to know how to throw together an associative array in C#? |
