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| 00:41.44 | paynis | new question, guys! :D |
| 00:42.53 | paynis | I have this Effect - Target ability which does a Launch Missile effect. The missile applies a dummy Modify Unit effect which I would like to use in triggers. |
| 00:43.22 | paynis | How do I make it so that I can gather the angle the missile has hit the target from (or the position of the launch of the missile, it doesn't matter) ? |
| 00:43.53 | paynis | I want to do a knock-back effect with that, basically (but that part is fine... all I need is the angle!) |
| 00:44.03 | paynis | Bounty, you would surely know! :D |
| 00:45.39 | Bounty | through triggers or data? |
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| 00:47.51 | paynis | trigger |
| 00:47.58 | paynis | i depicted my Data side of the whole thing |
| 00:48.05 | paynis | I have my Apply Force trigger already |
| 00:48.12 | paynis | I just gotta figure out how to calculate the angle |
| 00:48.51 | paynis | basically |
| 00:49.27 | paynis | how do I affect the "Caster" "Target" "Source" or whatever parts of the "Triggering Effect Unit(x)" trigger-action, inside the Data? |
| 00:50.14 | paynis | I would like "Caster" to return the player that launched the missile |
| 00:50.21 | paynis | and "Target" to return the unit that is being hit |
| 00:50.40 | paynis | (and thus the unit that is triggering the Dummy Modify Unit effect) |
| 00:51.09 | paynis | so actuall |
| 00:51.20 | paynis | "Caster" must be that triggering unit |
| 00:51.36 | paynis | "Source" or "Origin" must be the caster of the spell that caused the effect to be used |
| 00:51.46 | paynis | but how to know if it really is? |
| 00:52.01 | paynis | how, in Data Editor, do I mess with the values so that those values return the caster of the ability |
| 00:53.40 | Bounty | uni takes damage from (Your damage effect) Set variable (Real) to the angle between damaging unit and triggering unit |
| 00:58.08 | paynis | so you suggest to switch the dummy Modify Unit effect to a dummy Damage effect? would dealing 0 damage still trigger the event "Unit Takes Damage" ? |
| 00:58.36 | Bounty | yes |
| 01:05.35 | paynis | k |
| 01:05.39 | paynis | any reasons why a Sound wouldn't play? |
| 01:05.57 | Bounty | There are about 1,000 reasons |
| 01:05.59 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:06.13 | paynis | AiurChefEnergyDrinkSwarm_What |
| 01:06.17 | paynis | is the one I'm trying to use |
| 01:06.30 | paynis | it is a Sound Actor type SoundOneShot |
| 01:06.45 | paynis | in the Events it is called when a certain Behavior is applied |
| 01:07.14 | paynis | and I have verified the beahvior was applied properly |
| 01:07.20 | paynis | what could be the problem? |
| 01:10.07 | Bounty | Behavior Level > "Behavior Name" > On? |
| 01:10.14 | Bounty | is that what the event looks like |
| 01:17.51 | paynis | no |
| 01:17.55 | paynis | it's: |
| 01:18.07 | paynis | Behavior.BEHAVIORNAME.Create > Create |
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| 01:28.53 | paynis | bounty? |
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| 01:55.43 | Bounty | sorry paynis |
| 01:55.45 | Bounty | working lol |
| 01:55.57 | Bounty | done now though, whats up? |
| 01:56.17 | Bounty | send me pictures of the trigger and the actor event |
| 01:59.42 | paynis | one sec |
| 02:49.44 | paynis | HELLO WORLD! |
| 02:49.50 | paynis | http://i.imgur.com/aPCoEne.png |
| 02:50.02 | paynis | any ideas why this Actor only shows up for the player it is applied to? |
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| 02:50.11 | paynis | Ahli? :D |
| 02:50.26 | paynis | A1win ? :D |
| 02:55.45 | paynis | fixed |
| 03:32.44 | paynis | hey guys |
| 03:32.47 | paynis | I need to understand Footprints |
| 03:32.55 | paynis | how do I make a custom Footprint for a Custom Unit I made? |
| 03:33.00 | paynis | it's a Structure |
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| 03:48.32 | E11 | Q: What field do I need to edit on a unit to cause them to take only 80% incoming damage? |
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| 03:58.53 | Nytemare3701 | Hey mapsters |
| 03:59.33 | Nytemare3701 | I'm back again with the same problem as always. My pathing is still broken. |
| 04:01.22 | Nytemare3701 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/54558-persistent-pathing-problem/ |
| 04:21.24 | Ahli | well, the pathing isn't fixable. the problem is that the unit needs to go up ramps somehow :S |
| 04:22.19 | Ahli | paynis, just draw it in the footprint editing window? |
| 04:22.39 | paynis | it messes up the whole thing |
| 04:22.55 | paynis | I need it to be much more precise thant what is allowed |
| 04:23.05 | Ahli | can't |
| 04:23.13 | paynis | my unit has a X size value of 0.65 |
| 04:23.21 | paynis | I need the footprint to match that perfectly :/ |
| 04:23.39 | Ahli | are you aware that footprints are always centered on the terrain tiles? |
| 04:23.45 | paynis | any footprint I seem to try to give the unit will make it displace |
| 04:23.56 | paynis | terrain tiles, and not unit? |
| 04:23.58 | paynis | wtf is that stupidity |
| 04:30.37 | Nytemare3701 | Ahli, the issue occurs with both ramps and areas blocked by vision blockers. Is there a way I can force certain pathing? Maybe if I just put revealers on every damn ramp... |
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| 05:29.38 | Bounty | pew |
| 05:55.35 | Bounty | Swear to god this shit is the funniest thing ever |
| 05:55.39 | Bounty | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4ajQ-foj2Q#t=8m20s |
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| 06:28.51 | Goa | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE35-75rxqY |
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| 06:31.30 | Bounty | peeeoooooww |
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| 06:57.19 | kingTD | goa http://asherv.com/threes/threemails/ |
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| 07:51.55 | Goa | kingTD free markets are harsh:D |
| 07:53.52 | Goa | does three have a free pc version? |
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| 07:54.24 | Zolden | hello, people of mapmaking |
| 07:59.18 | kingTD | goa have no fucking clue, i just saw 2024 related news, saw images, posted here ^^ |
| 07:59.25 | kingTD | zolden http://asherv.com/threes/threemails/ |
| 08:07.52 | Zolden | looks like 13 yo girl diary |
| 08:09.05 | Zolden | what's 2024? apocalypse date? |
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| 08:20.59 | Zolden | kingTD are those asher and greg gays? they sound and look like |
| 08:21.20 | Zolden | why don't they make a gay game, where you must throw penises into naked men? |
| 08:24.34 | kingTD | mb u just dont know about it? |
| 08:26.50 | Zolden | and after reading/scrolling that I want to say, that they are more designers than math/tech/programmers, tnat that's why they spent 14 months on one week game - redrawing shit can take alot, whil bare idea is just a result of a good deep think |
| 08:27.47 | Zolden | if they were sc2 mapmakers, they spend a year and created a game with amazing ui that no one would lpay, becayse it's suck |
| 08:27.59 | Zolden | or because authors are gay |
| 08:28.49 | Goa | yeah they must mentally retarded to spend 14 month on that |
| 08:49.01 | Otixa | so... hungover... |
| 08:51.15 | kingTD | hmm why it doesnt show entry from Core dependancy of units for placeholderiningingingin? |
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| 08:59.42 | Zolden | Otixa the only advice in this situation - weed, it just multiplies by -1 all suffering |
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| 09:10.02 | Zolden | custom impact I made http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/420/tank_push.gif |
| 09:12.41 | Rommper | like an air hockey |
| 09:13.11 | Goa | nice |
| 09:15.41 | Zolden | kingTD show us screens from your unity game pls |
| 09:17.02 | kingTD | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-u31Wn2trfnk/Ts1q1cQfmTI/AAAAAAAAASQ/soT-QjuNINU/s1600/colin+kaszynski+3d+model+unity+game+engine.jpg |
| 09:17.46 | Zolden | I knew, you're secretly making a game! |
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| 09:23.34 | Goa | fake:D |
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| 09:27.15 | kingTD | No. Its u who are fake and GAY!!! |
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| 09:37.31 | Zolden | A1win how would you search object in radius? (analogue of sc2 search effect) |
| 09:37.44 | A1win | mmh, not really sure |
| 09:38.08 | A1win | http://answers.unity3d.com/questions/422824/how-to-find-object-anywhere-in-the-radius-of-say-1.html |
| 09:38.21 | A1win | physics can at least do it |
| 09:43.02 | Zolden | yea, ty, it's waht i need |
| 10:08.04 | Zolden | A1win so, this is how to create and init an array: int[] a = {1, 2, 3}; but what about multidimentional arrays? |
| 10:08.14 | Zolden | i'd like to create and init 2d array |
| 10:08.53 | A1win | I think you can do int[][] or int[,] and refer to as int[i][j] or int[i,j] |
| 10:09.02 | A1win | not sure what the difference is |
| 10:09.15 | Zolden | and how to init it? |
| 10:09.25 | Zolden | i meant that {} kind of init |
| 10:09.40 | A1win | ah, can't remember |
| 10:09.41 | Zolden | {{1, 2}, {1, 2}} like this? |
| 10:10.14 | A1win | http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/aa288453(v=vs.71).aspx |
| 10:10.26 | A1win | yeah that's correct |
| 10:11.25 | Zolden | ok, ty |
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| 10:23.17 | Zolden | A1win in function declaration like this: void f(int a){} is "a" const by default? can we modify it within the function? |
| 10:23.37 | A1win | you can modify it |
| 10:24.01 | Zolden | ok |
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| 11:19.15 | Zolden | kingTD don't you think that it's a fun joke of nature: to make chocolate look like shit. Best food looks like worst food. Why do you think it happened? What's the point of this joke? |
| 11:20.46 | kingTD | but how u know that shit doesnt taste like milkish chocolate? |
| 11:21.26 | Zolden | sometimes it does: soeone could put alot of chocolate into his ass, wait a little to let the chocolate melt, and then poop it in front of camera to youtube that |
| 11:23.06 | Merc | That's a million dollar idea Zolden |
| 11:23.42 | kingTD | or at least u can animated that in 3ds, that would be ur idea that u would get monies! |
| 11:24.07 | Zolden | btw, once I preplaced a pile of aubergine paste on a road (that looked like shit), and when we walked through with friends near that place 5 minutes later, I just ate that in front of them |
| 11:25.04 | kingTD | and u never saw ur friendos again |
| 11:25.56 | Zolden | i don't remember their reaction, it was a long time ago, but guess they instantly got it |
| 11:26.10 | Zolden | one need stupidier friends to perforn that kind of joke |
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| 11:58.07 | Merc | is there some invisible box on unit models that makes it easier to select units? |
| 11:58.34 | Merc | my custom units are more annoying to select than blizzard units |
| 12:03.00 | Merc | actually, they cant be selected when you drag a box |
| 12:03.02 | Merc | something's fucky |
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| 12:05.50 | Merc | still getting power outages kingTD? |
| 12:06.24 | kingTD | drivers reinstalling.. frozen pc and pink blinking screen is the problem |
| 12:06.30 | Merc | o.0 |
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| 12:15.14 | Zolden | Merc you wouldn't have this question if you read art tools tutorial |
| 12:16.06 | Zolden | models can have one HitTestTight named object and multiple HitTestFuzzy named object |
| 12:16.15 | Zolden | tight one for drag select, fuzzy for click |
| 12:16.24 | Zolden | they can be boxes, spheres or capsules |
| 12:16.35 | Zolden | and scale change can only be performed in local mode |
| 12:16.51 | Merc | god damnit all this READING |
| 12:17.27 | Zolden | not jsut reading, but performing the examples |
| 12:17.34 | Zolden | comprehensive knowledge is a good enough reward for me |
| 12:17.51 | Merc | I need to be doing to learn |
| 12:18.10 | Zolden | art tools tutorial tells what to do and explain why |
| 12:18.27 | Merc | but but but impatience |
| 12:20.16 | Zolden | impatience is a desire to spend less time on things. My experience says that learn + do is faster then simply do |
| 12:20.19 | kingTD | heh, this freeze broken map :/ |
| 12:20.36 | Merc | you're absolutely right, and my experience says that too |
| 12:20.43 | Merc | still, I dive into things anyway |
| 12:20.49 | Merc | cause I'm a dumbass |
| 12:21.22 | Zolden | and how do we call a situation when a person walks against its experience? |
| 12:21.26 | Zolden | lol |
| 12:21.29 | Zolden | exactly |
| 12:23.16 | Zolden | fun thing is that i'm in the same situation: you have me to assist, and you rather ask then read, and I have A1win with the same result |
| 12:24.40 | Zolden | oh, btw, scientists have studied this phenomena, and found out wht kind of persons prefer local small win over global big win |
| 12:24.58 | Zolden | potential drug addicts and alcoholics |
| 12:25.35 | Zolden | latent junkies |
| 12:25.35 | A1win | pleasure button vs food button |
| 12:26.26 | Zolden | yea, or take little cash now or big cash later |
| 12:42.05 | Merc | oh yeah I could totally get addicted to heroin |
| 12:42.10 | Merc | that's why I'm not taking it |
| 12:43.28 | Merc | problem about the tutorials is that I only understand half of what's written in it, so I sort of go "ehrhh lets go mess around instead" |
| 12:43.45 | Merc | but I know more now, so maybe check it out again |
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| 12:51.23 | kingTD | started FurMark test.. instant pink screen |
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| 13:12.22 | Zolden | what's furmark? |
| 13:12.30 | kingTD | well after 6min furmak and fans spining full speed having 76C and starting rising |
| 13:12.37 | kingTD | gpu testing program |
| 13:12.44 | kingTD | that burns gpus |
| 13:14.16 | kingTD | well after cleaning mb a bit better |
| 13:14.21 | kingTD | running |
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| 13:56.17 | kingTD | and thats been some vehicle reporitng action |
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| 15:03.27 | Zolden | JademusSreg how much time have you spend on photon cycles? I mean doing things, between you started coding and posted alpha? |
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| 15:14.46 | Zolden | A1win isn't particles rotation broken in unity? |
| 15:15.04 | A1win | mmh haven't used particles |
| 15:15.07 | A1win | how do you mean? |
| 15:15.09 | A1win | not facing camera? |
| 15:15.09 | Zolden | my particles don't rotate, then at 80% of lifetime momentary rotate all range |
| 15:15.32 | Zolden | just rotation around center being billboards |
| 15:15.39 | A1win | dunno |
| 15:15.56 | Zolden | seems so ;/ |
| 15:16.01 | Zolden | it's critical for realistic smoke |
| 15:20.42 | A1win | google it ;p |
| 15:38.50 | CaptainSisko | A1win, mulla on kylmä |
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| 17:46.05 | pirate | this is the weirdest fucking bug |
| 17:46.32 | pirate | kills your hero instantly on combat initialization... |
| 17:46.39 | pirate | under very specific circumstances |
| 17:47.20 | pirate | : only if you ended the previous battle by killing 2+ enemies with a grenade and manage to hit yourself within the radius |
| 17:47.47 | Zolden | grenade - item - explodes in hero's butt? |
| 17:48.14 | pirate | you continue to be the least useful person here |
| 17:50.51 | Zolden | and you continue to be super friendly |
| 18:04.37 | pirate | figured it out- battle victory actions were executing extra times when enemies died in the same game tick |
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| 18:07.35 | A1win | pretty sure Zolden's answer was the most useful one towards solving your problem than anyone here would've been able to give based on your description of the problem :X |
| 18:09.55 | pirate | eh, I figured as much, but it helps me to take a second and talk out (or type out...) the issue |
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| 18:20.07 | kingTD | bqweee |
| 18:26.44 | Zolden | A1win http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/427/tank_attack.gif |
| 18:26.50 | Zolden | made them attack |
| 18:26.58 | A1win | hehe |
| 18:32.02 | kingTD | so much hope gives out to that other moba on twitch front page Infinite Crysis... |
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| 18:37.12 | mille25 | . |
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| 18:39.41 | mille25 | JademusSreg: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/64793-generic-container-library-with-gui-support/#p1 |
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| 18:50.08 | kingTD1 | heh, was just about to beat the zergs face and then pink screen |
| 18:50.30 | kingTD1 | guess will be switching gpu |
| 19:02.14 | Zolden | yea, don't let the fucker fuck you |
| 19:02.19 | Zolden | fuck it first |
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| 20:29.34 | Zolden | i miss sc2 assets in unity ;/ |
| 20:30.07 | Zolden | I can spam particle effects, but no sounds ;/ |
| 20:30.14 | Zolden | duckies GIMME SOUNDS!!!!!!! |
| 20:30.37 | Zolden | releases duckies and calms down |
| 20:30.45 | duckies | gives zolden the sound of silence |
| 20:32.39 | Zolden | accidently farts and sound disappears |
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| 20:44.45 | kingTD | played 2 ladder matches, lost. Joined the arcade lobby, PSOD.... |
| 20:45.07 | kingTD | so switched to slow ass motherfucker GPU |
| 20:45.26 | kingTD | and about time to test him on map night |
| 20:46.00 | kingTD | hardware accelaration on |
| 20:47.26 | Zolden | what's PSOD? |
| 20:48.33 | Zolden | pixel sex of duks? |
| 20:49.05 | Zolden | pseudo segregation of dichotomies? |
| 20:49.33 | kingTD | pink screen of death :s |
| 20:49.37 | Zolden | oh |
| 20:58.35 | kingTD | well, with that card had 24-25 fps in test, now have 11 |
| 20:58.57 | kingTD | and its more likely to overheat :s slowly to its death |
| 20:59.29 | Zolden | kingTD you mean overheat was the source of psods? |
| 21:00.13 | kingTD | no, im saying that this new one that i switched to. |
| 21:00.28 | Zolden | you bought new card? |
| 21:01.40 | kingTD | http://gpuboss.com/gpus/GeForce-GTX-260-Core-216-vs-GeForce-GT-440 |
| 21:02.27 | Zolden | and you think it's overheats and works slower? |
| 21:02.43 | kingTD | well i got 440 some time ago, but it really didnt do much for me better than old Nvidia 7900 GS, even quite the same card in some cases. |
| 21:03.08 | kingTD | but after some complaining i recieved offer for free to get GTX 260 |
| 21:03.13 | Zolden | maybe you need to clean the power block cooler? |
| 21:03.30 | kingTD | then found out that my power supply sucks, bought new one. |
| 21:04.15 | kingTD | its more likely it heated so much since its quite a process was. will see in future if that really will be problem |
| 21:04.19 | Zolden | so, does your new card create psods? |
| 21:05.50 | kingTD | the GTX 260 it seems. |
| 21:05.56 | kingTD | so now have 440 |
| 21:06.46 | Zolden | but 440 shows lower fps? |
| 21:07.01 | kingTD | :D yes |
| 21:07.12 | Zolden | but it has better characteristics |
| 21:07.16 | kingTD | no |
| 21:07.19 | kingTD | it doesnt |
| 21:07.24 | kingTD | the 260 have much better |
| 21:08.04 | Zolden | but your link says 440 is better, more mhz, more mem |
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| 21:09.39 | kingTD | there is a lot of other specificaitons, and below there is comparing |
| 21:09.44 | kingTD | and winnings |
| 21:10.52 | Zolden | strange |
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| 21:11.05 | Zolden | i thought mem + frequency decides what's better |
| 21:11.45 | kingTD | yeah, for dummies its easy way to sell shit |
| 21:12.06 | kingTD | okay time to play with 1 fps sc2 |
| 21:21.49 | kingTD | lol, comparing 440 and 630, they almost same just the faster brandwith on 630, while cost quite same as 440 at the time |
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| 21:34.04 | IskatuMesk | I search for the elusive but indescribably handsome JademusSreg |
| 21:35.44 | kingTD | hmm, mb not so bad, playable stuff with this low end |
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| 21:44.20 | kingTD1 | alright |
| 21:44.23 | kingTD1 | black screen |
| 21:47.02 | Zolden | black screen? |
| 21:47.05 | Zolden | with new card? |
| 21:48.54 | IskatuMesk | zolden did you guys ever get cloth physics working in sc2? |
| 21:49.22 | Zolden | yea |
| 21:49.23 | kingTD1 | yeah.. mb power outage like with the first gpu card |
| 21:49.57 | IskatuMesk | do you have a max file I could look at for an example? I have never rigged/animated before and I have some models I have ripped that need cloth physics to animate hair/skirts and such... and yeah, the documentation doesn't really cover that |
| 21:50.34 | IskatuMesk | I remember burning out a bunch of 350w psu's with a 9800 pro in the day |
| 21:50.58 | Zolden | IskatuMesk ask taylor mouse on forum, he had something nice done with it |
| 21:51.04 | IskatuMesk | alright |
| 21:51.06 | Zolden | or some other dude, don't remember |
| 21:51.14 | Zolden | the one who made that 2d platformer |
| 21:51.21 | IskatuMesk | the chinese guy? |
| 21:51.34 | Zolden | sec, i'll check |
| 21:51.47 | IskatuMesk | that's where I saw the posts anyways, in his thread |
| 21:52.12 | Zolden | IskatuMesk http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/63853-jetpack-girls-ctf/?post=1 |
| 21:52.13 | Zolden | this one |
| 21:52.49 | Zolden | but if you ask me, i'd say that general approach is to create ribbons and force fields |
| 21:53.17 | IskatuMesk | it doesn't need to be perfect, just enough to be convincing |
| 21:53.42 | Zolden | ribbons are ok if you manage adjust its parameters to imiate clothes and add force fields to not let them to get inside character's body |
| 21:53.50 | IskatuMesk | the meshes tend to be weighted to bones but they don't have any animation, I guess they were done entirely with physx |
| 21:54.18 | Zolden | I have once imitated hair and dress of a doll with ribbons, and it looked ok even without forces |
| 21:54.40 | IskatuMesk | I see |
| 21:54.49 | Zolden | i'm not talking about premade baked clothes |
| 21:55.12 | Zolden | but delphinium (the chinese guy) knows good ways to make nice baked clothes |
| 21:55.25 | IskatuMesk | can you use their meshes for a ribbon? |
| 21:55.33 | IskatuMesk | or is a ribbon completely different |
| 21:55.38 | Zolden | ribbon has its own "mesh" |
| 21:55.57 | IskatuMesk | I'm guessing UV's would be an impossible mess for someone like me then |
| 21:56.10 | Zolden | ribbon is simulating on run, it doesn't need bones, it's literally ribbon |
| 21:56.19 | IskatuMesk | ah |
| 21:56.30 | IskatuMesk | can you attach physics nodes to the bones? |
| 21:56.32 | Zolden | ribbon's material can have uv offsets |
| 21:56.38 | Zolden | and other adjustements |
| 21:56.44 | Zolden | but not uv map |
| 21:56.59 | IskatuMesk | ribbons would probably be ideal for making entirely new hair then |
| 21:57.04 | IskatuMesk | rather than adapting an existing mesh I have |
| 21:57.15 | Zolden | if you attach kinematic physics node, it may owrk |
| 21:57.25 | Zolden | but dynamic one won't stay attached |
| 21:57.48 | Zolden | but ribbons don't communicate with physics objects, only with forces |
| 21:58.58 | Zolden | for this model I made dress and hair with ribbons |
| 21:58.59 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/sG0o9.jpg |
| 21:59.09 | Zolden | and it look good with all anims |
| 21:59.34 | IskatuMesk | is the whole hair a ribbon |
| 21:59.36 | IskatuMesk | or just a part of it |
| 22:00.05 | Zolden | all hair is like 50 ribbons |
| 22:00.19 | IskatuMesk | you get no performance hit from that? |
| 22:00.26 | Zolden | dress is 5 ribbons |
| 22:00.41 | Zolden | ribbons and particles are very fast |
| 22:00.48 | IskatuMesk | interesting |
| 22:00.51 | Zolden | no perfomance drop at all |
| 22:00.56 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/43/981/bufferfly.gif |
| 22:01.01 | Zolden | another little ribbons use |
| 22:01.02 | IskatuMesk | I'm coming from an engine where just a few thousand very simple particles absolutely annihilate performance (sins of a solar empire) |
| 22:01.32 | IskatuMesk | so you made a ribbon for each hair strand I am assuming |
| 22:01.34 | IskatuMesk | or each cluster |
| 22:01.39 | Zolden | i think if you keep the amount of particles below 1k per screen, it will be fine |
| 22:02.15 | Zolden | for each strand |
| 22:02.23 | IskatuMesk | interesting indeed |
| 22:02.26 | IskatuMesk | I may have to try this |
| 22:02.35 | IskatuMesk | some of these meshes will need new hair for sure |
| 22:02.49 | Zolden | yea, try, but this requires alot of adjusting speed, gravity, some other parameters |
| 22:03.19 | IskatuMesk | yeah things like that can take forever to perfect |
| 22:03.30 | IskatuMesk | took me a year and a half to revise my sin's project's particles to a demonstrable state |
| 22:03.50 | IskatuMesk | and that was just a few, and with very few options |
| 22:03.52 | IskatuMesk | no child particles etc |
| 22:04.36 | Zolden | lol |
| 22:04.45 | Zolden | i'm talking about an hour, not years |
| 22:04.54 | IskatuMesk | oh |
| 22:04.57 | IskatuMesk | that's nothing then :3 |
| 22:05.33 | IskatuMesk | it took me an hour to add animations to the manager in startools because there is a weird off by 1 error in the reported frames for actorX importer |
| 22:05.44 | IskatuMesk | and things kept drifting out of sync |
| 22:09.58 | Zolden | ok, time to leap to sleap |
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