| 00:08.56 | Bounty | DeadZergling, did you ever find any music on incompetech that was epic but you could not use personally? |
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| 02:03.45 | turtles1 | Does anyone know of a trigger library that gets an AI player to harass? I don't want to reinvent any wheels. |
| 02:04.50 | turtles1 | If not would anyone be interested in joining a project? It will probably be pretty multi-purpose so translatable to other maps |
| 02:25.43 | turtles1 | created an sc2mapster thread with a few design goals |
| 02:25.45 | turtles1 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/aidev/64321-creating-an-ai-harassment-script/ |
| 03:09.23 | Bounty | R.I.P Turtles1's query. |
| 03:59.06 | Reaperguyver | If i have a weapon that does 8 damage and I want it to do 200% damage on the galaxy editor do I make it do another 8 damage or 16? |
| 03:59.55 | Bounty | 16 would be double |
| 04:00.01 | Bounty | which would = 200% |
| 04:03.49 | Reaperguyver | Alright thanks. |
| 04:03.59 | Reaperguyver | I wasn't sure if it took the new data or added the 8 to it. |
| 04:04.50 | Reaperguyver | I was talking about the attribute bonus_ modifier by the way. Sorry just woke up. |
| 04:16.04 | Bounty | I mean it does depend |
| 04:16.29 | Bounty | Are we talking +200% from or 200% of the initial value |
| 04:16.46 | Bounty | I would test it via triggers |
| 04:16.56 | Bounty | unit takes damage from X weapon |
| 04:17.07 | Bounty | convert the damage amount to text |
| 04:23.42 | Reaperguyver | yeah I figured it out thanks for the help. |
| 05:24.42 | Bounty | I've known about this for awhile but I still thought this was an interesting video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87SEviVgWrI |
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| 06:18.53 | Bounty | This IRC has become quite in terms of conversation activity.... |
| 06:18.58 | Bounty | quite dead* |
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| 07:40.59 | Bounty | Herro kingTD |
| 07:47.45 | kingTD | Character Bounty |
| 08:01.48 | Merc | morning |
| 08:05.26 | kingTD | it is |
| 08:05.52 | Bounty | Can't argue with that |
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| 08:08.00 | Merc | little bit more morning for Bounty I guess |
| 08:08.04 | Merc | or at least soon |
| 08:08.09 | Merc | hur hru |
| 08:08.16 | Bounty | Almost bed time for me actually |
| 08:08.24 | Bounty | It is still morning for normal people in my region though lol |
| 08:12.56 | Merc | so hey I got a question |
| 08:13.09 | Merc | the max size for maps is 10 MB right? |
| 08:13.20 | Bounty | Think its 20-25ish now |
| 08:13.25 | Merc | ah |
| 08:13.29 | Bounty | but you can use mods to get around that |
| 08:13.39 | Merc | oh so it's per file |
| 08:13.40 | Bounty | can have a 200mb map if you want lol |
| 08:13.45 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:13.52 | Bounty | if you use mods to support the assets |
| 08:13.54 | Merc | so you can have a mod file with just graphics |
| 08:13.56 | Bounty | you can get around it |
| 08:13.59 | Bounty | yep |
| 08:14.01 | Merc | ok cool |
| 08:14.11 | Bounty | I would try to find more specifics on the limits though |
| 08:14.19 | Bounty | just so you know if you need more than 1 more |
| 08:14.21 | Bounty | 1 mod* |
| 08:14.30 | Merc | cause I was just looking at my assets so far, and they were at 20 mb |
| 08:14.43 | Merc | outside an mpq though, I guess it compresses files |
| 08:14.44 | Bounty | Will most likely need a mod |
| 08:15.13 | Bounty | Also, the benefit to using mods besides getting around the file size limit is that mods only need to be downloaded once |
| 08:15.23 | Bounty | so if you upload a patch to you game that fixes some code |
| 08:15.30 | Bounty | they don't need to re download all of the assets |
| 08:15.35 | Merc | yeah |
| 08:15.39 | Bounty | aka all the shit in the mod lol |
| 08:16.01 | Merc | yeah so assets in one file and code in another, kinda |
| 08:16.07 | Bounty | yeah |
| 08:16.14 | Bounty | I think if you go to upload file |
| 08:16.24 | Bounty | it should tell you the max size of the map allowed |
| 08:17.06 | Merc | I'm far from that point :p |
| 08:17.16 | Merc | but probably a good idea to know what limits I have to work with |
| 08:17.50 | Bounty | yeah, just make some random map and try to upload it |
| 08:17.53 | Merc | recently discovered machinima studio, so I've been exporting models like a madman |
| 08:17.54 | Bounty | just so you can see the limit |
| 08:18.03 | Bounty | >.< |
| 08:18.18 | Merc | some of the models on sc2 mapster are too huge, I dont need interior on buildings etc. |
| 08:18.28 | Bounty | Also, I am pretty sure your map had to be created with the mod supported at the start |
| 08:18.32 | Bounty | Not sure on that one though |
| 08:18.45 | Bounty | Meh, I will be using WoW models for my next project |
| 08:18.48 | Merc | cantr you add a dependancy in the middle |
| 08:18.49 | Bounty | Lots of animations |
| 08:18.55 | Bounty | I don't think so |
| 08:19.02 | Merc | weird |
| 08:19.03 | Bounty | I could be wrong on that though |
| 08:19.10 | Merc | figured you could just import the mod :p |
| 08:19.18 | Merc | but I'm gathering assets first anyway |
| 08:19.28 | Merc | got a checklist and everything |
| 08:19.31 | Bounty | yeah, definitely the best way to go lol |
| 08:19.45 | Bounty | Game Concept on paper, Assets then start |
| 08:19.46 | Bounty | =P |
| 08:20.16 | Merc | felt like I was procrastinating the actual work tbh |
| 08:20.35 | Bounty | Most of us feel that way sometimes |
| 08:20.45 | Bounty | I think i've been "brainstorming" for the last month or so? |
| 08:20.49 | Merc | :D |
| 08:20.50 | Bounty | thankfully it paid off |
| 08:20.54 | Bounty | got my concept down |
| 08:20.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:21.13 | Merc | well I kinda shouldnt start working when I'm still a meganewb |
| 08:21.32 | Merc | I'm learning lots every day now, kinda got over that first ugly bump in the learning curve I think |
| 08:21.37 | Bounty | I mean it depends on what you want to make really |
| 08:21.46 | Merc | probably another one down the line, but that sorrow comes later |
| 08:22.04 | Bounty | that and the IRC has been quite dead in teams of talking lately lol |
| 08:22.07 | Bounty | so thats not good |
| 08:22.25 | Bounty | What genre of game do you intend on creating? |
| 08:22.39 | Merc | really? whenever I get back in here I see pages and pages of stuff to read up on |
| 08:22.48 | Merc | but I am online 24/7 though |
| 08:22.55 | Merc | basically what I want to do is |
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| 08:23.01 | Bounty | Its usually just me from what I've seen |
| 08:23.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:23.20 | Merc | reskin sc2 to use warcraft units, and make a balanced game out of it |
| 08:23.40 | Merc | no heroes, no xp, no critters |
| 08:23.50 | Merc | but hireable mercenaries |
| 08:23.58 | Bounty | That should be simple enough |
| 08:24.03 | Merc | I think so too |
| 08:24.10 | Bounty | Perfect started project IMO |
| 08:24.10 | Merc | minerals = lumber and gas = gold |
| 08:24.26 | Bounty | You might run into some data issues but most of the people here can easily help you with that |
| 08:24.46 | Merc | I kinda wanted to do this RTS 10 years ago already, so I'm sort of "back in there" now :p |
| 08:24.52 | Merc | really enjoying myself |
| 08:24.55 | Merc | getting closure |
| 08:25.01 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:25.11 | Merc | I was doing a total conversion for WC2 back in the day |
| 08:25.12 | Bounty | Never know, could be a hit |
| 08:25.37 | Merc | ended up getting a cease and desist letter from some laywers |
| 08:25.42 | Merc | got scared, quit |
| 08:25.48 | Bounty | Did not even know you could do a total conversation for WC2 |
| 08:26.01 | Merc | it wasnt easy :p |
| 08:26.07 | Merc | lots of hacking involved |
| 08:26.11 | Bounty | I bet, I used that editor lol |
| 08:26.17 | Bounty | I figured |
| 08:26.25 | Bounty | Hence those cease and desist letters =P |
| 08:26.38 | Merc | nah, blizzard was cool with it |
| 08:26.45 | Merc | or, I never heard any from them |
| 08:26.58 | Merc | but I was a tolkien geek and wanted to make it all based on tolkien lore |
| 08:27.21 | Merc | apparently, there's a company called the Saul Zaents Company that owned the rights |
| 08:27.50 | Merc | to that kind of "digital content" |
| 08:28.00 | Bounty | Yeah, welcome to my world |
| 08:28.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:28.20 | Merc | this was during the time when the movies were coming out, so they were pretty ruthless I guess |
| 08:28.25 | Bounty | I managed to get away with all my copyright infringements so far thankfully |
| 08:28.42 | Merc | couple of years later an rts with the exact same name as my mod came out :p |
| 08:28.59 | Bounty | but Blizzard enjoyed my work and refused to promoted it because of the copyrighted assets so I am trying to get off my addiction >.< |
| 08:29.07 | Bounty | oh wow |
| 08:29.31 | Bounty | doing tolkien stuff while the LOTR movies are coming out? |
| 08:29.36 | Bounty | psh, no chance of survival |
| 08:29.47 | Merc | I wasnt a smart kid |
| 08:30.15 | Bounty | That is typically a good thing in this context lol |
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| 08:56.43 | Bounty | heading out, night all (or morning for some of you) |
| 09:06.01 | Zolden | for me it's both morning and dat |
| 09:06.04 | Zolden | and day |
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| 09:08.41 | Zolden | kingTD why are you jumping like a grasshopper? |
| 09:10.15 | kingTD | nvidia drivers crashed in blue screen.. so trying to completely delete drivers and shit |
| 09:12.37 | kingTD | if running memory test, what it helps for the ship? |
| 09:12.44 | kingTD | how it helps |
| 09:12.49 | Zolden | my graphical card can ruin everything into bluescreen sometimes if I watch youtube in internet explorer |
| 09:12.52 | kingTD | or its just says ur memory chip fucked |
| 09:12.59 | kingTD | and u can throw that away? |
| 09:13.12 | Zolden | I just don't watch youtube in explorer |
| 09:13.23 | Zolden | in chrome it's ok |
| 09:13.57 | A1win | why would you ever even use IE O.O |
| 09:14.14 | Zolden | it's a habit, and sometimes it's faster |
| 09:14.22 | Zolden | somehow I use both |
| 09:14.32 | kingTD | fucking shit cant install now drivers :s |
| 09:19.02 | kingTD | nope |
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| 09:31.54 | kingTD | the fuck... cant install drivers :/ |
| 09:34.10 | Zolden | so u fucked now? |
| 09:34.22 | Zolden | maybe wrong drivers? |
| 09:35.45 | kingTD | im fucked. it cant be wrong. even site itself recommends same. |
| 09:36.17 | kingTD | it just throws while installing that it MS doesnt recongnize logo shit |
| 09:36.25 | kingTD | continue or stop options... |
| 09:36.36 | kingTD | and any choosen results in fail |
| 09:36.42 | kingTD | FAILL GOD DAMN IT! |
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| 09:44.01 | Zolden | kingTD what sc2 building would fit most for undead? |
| 09:45.53 | kingTD | what dependancy? :] there are no many choices.. almost none |
| 09:46.08 | Zolden | wol, but not campaign |
| 09:48.00 | kingTD | u could make that undead wow building to use some zerg textures. |
| 09:48.09 | kingTD | and add those particle effects |
| 09:48.19 | kingTD | necropolis or something |
| 09:48.32 | kingTD | cant even install old drivers... |
| 09:48.34 | kingTD | soo fucked |
| 09:49.12 | Zolden | yea, looks good |
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| 10:05.46 | kingTD | ok, system restored helped.. with same errors occuring while installing drivers but at least its installing the drivers |
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| 10:57.55 | Zolden | memory stick stuck at stock stack |
| 10:58.34 | Zolden | this is waht my mind tells - result of overstimulating linguistical area |
| 11:18.40 | Merc | what what |
| 11:19.17 | Merc | btw thanks for the tips this weekend Zolden, managed to get alpha and normals working properly |
| 11:19.34 | Merc | putting the explosions on hold for now, it's not really a priority yet |
| 11:20.08 | Merc | animations for idle / working is more important |
| 11:23.02 | Zolden | good |
| 11:24.50 | Merc | ever seen a building in wow that looks like the warcraft 2 orc barracks btw? |
| 11:25.11 | Merc | havent played it for years, but I feel like there should be one like that in there |
| 11:25.42 | Zolden | i don't know wow stuff, never played it |
| 11:29.07 | Merc | ah ok |
| 11:29.47 | Zolden | checked mapster assets? |
| 11:30.01 | Merc | yeah I gave it a browse |
| 11:30.22 | Zolden | daara's collection may include something you wan |
| 11:30.25 | Zolden | t |
| 11:30.49 | Merc | oh yeah? |
| 11:30.54 | Merc | checking |
| 11:30.58 | Zolden | he uploaded lots of whit |
| 11:31.03 | Zolden | *shit |
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| 11:43.59 | kingTD | hmm morty new episode out? :O |
| 11:47.37 | Zolden | should be tomorrow |
| 11:47.45 | Zolden | today's american dad and family guy |
| 11:48.59 | kingTD | pirates already have it, a bit shitty quality tho |
| 11:49.39 | Zolden | indeed |
| 11:49.43 | Zolden | well, i'll wait |
| 11:50.03 | Zolden | hope putin won't declare nuclear world to the world until tomorrow |
| 11:57.01 | kingTD | i wouldnt be so hopeful about being so cool |
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| 12:14.00 | kingTD | crazy episode.. |
| 12:14.35 | Zolden | crapizode |
| 12:17.44 | kingTD | HUGE NUTS! |
| 12:34.37 | Zolden | fuck wow, let it be high necromancers with beautiful necropolis |
| 12:34.46 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/2JWHD.jpg |
| 12:35.04 | Merc | nice |
| 12:35.34 | Merc | I really want to have undead as a third race in my mod if I get orcs and humans working fine |
| 12:35.48 | Zolden | Merc you know waht's the most important thing in sc2-ization wow models? |
| 12:35.50 | Merc | would be a proper sc2 mod then |
| 12:36.05 | Merc | I bet you're gonna say speculars |
| 12:36.06 | Merc | :D |
| 12:36.12 | Zolden | yea :) |
| 12:36.36 | Merc | I want to use it for metals |
| 12:36.56 | Merc | thing is I want to go for that toned down warcraft style of graphics as well |
| 12:37.59 | Zolden | then at least adjust map's light to make diffuse brighter and cartoonier |
| 12:38.38 | Merc | that's what I am after |
| 12:39.06 | Merc | but the most important thing is to make things fit together, you know |
| 12:39.28 | Merc | if it just looks bad without speculars in the sc2 engine I'll add it |
| 12:39.37 | Zolden | add a little penis to each model's forehead, and it will link everything together |
| 12:39.56 | Merc | how about a huge one, with phyiscs enabled |
| 12:39.59 | Merc | wobbling around |
| 12:40.06 | Zolden | yea, even better |
| 12:40.16 | Merc | physics. |
| 12:40.26 | Merc | I swear I am becoming dyslexic |
| 12:40.55 | Zolden | well, speculars help to sense what player see, it saves visual calculations to desipher the picture into inner image |
| 12:41.19 | Merc | what does that mean |
| 12:41.53 | Zolden | it's like difference between 8 bit sound and good quality sound |
| 12:42.22 | Zolden | more additional timbre tonics in the specter help brain to decode audio information |
| 12:42.23 | Merc | if I dont use speculars, will the reflection just be turned off, or always 100% on? |
| 12:42.58 | Zolden | without speculars models look dimly |
| 12:43.04 | Zolden | harder to feel volume |
| 12:43.04 | Merc | ok |
| 12:43.23 | Merc | I will just use specular to enhance the sheen on metals then |
| 12:44.14 | Zolden | simplier way is: no normal map, white (or tinted) color as specular map |
| 12:44.29 | Zolden | better way: normal map + color as specular |
| 12:44.36 | Zolden | best way: normal + spec maps |
| 12:45.04 | Zolden | no normal map means only faces orientation + smoothing matters |
| 12:45.17 | Zolden | if you add normal map it will be mixed with smoothing |
| 12:45.34 | Merc | photoshop is the tool I know best out of all this, so making a specular map as well wont be a huge deal |
| 12:45.35 | Zolden | so, good smoothing is like 50% of a good look |
| 12:45.53 | Zolden | if you want good stuff, use nDo |
| 12:46.05 | Merc | nDo? |
| 12:46.05 | Zolden | it's ps plugin to generate normal maps from diffuse |
| 12:46.09 | Zolden | nDo2 |
| 12:46.12 | Merc | oh |
| 12:46.24 | Zolden | i heard it was create by a former blizz employee |
| 12:46.52 | Merc | I've been using machinima studio so far, it seems to either extract or generate normal maps for you |
| 12:47.05 | Zolden | alright |
| 12:47.22 | Merc | they're all bluish though |
| 12:47.26 | Zolden | just remember, that sc2 normal maps use A and G channels |
| 12:47.31 | Merc | but I made a macro to convert them to sc2 mode |
| 12:47.31 | Merc | yea |
| 12:47.34 | Zolden | and G should be inverted |
| 12:47.43 | Merc | oh it should? |
| 12:47.57 | Zolden | yea, light comes from bottom in G channel |
| 12:48.04 | Merc | oh well I'll make a macro for that too then |
| 12:48.04 | Zolden | and from right in A |
| 12:48.43 | Zolden | at least for the standard normals ndo or xNormals generate, g should be inverted since it's initially lightened from top |
| 12:51.38 | Merc | alright so the G channel should be lightened from top |
| 12:51.40 | Merc | basically |
| 12:51.52 | Merc | and from the right in A |
| 12:52.03 | Merc | I've seen some threads saying it should be just gray in A |
| 12:52.29 | Merc | which kinda sounds weird, since that wouldnt really make much of a 3d effect |
| 12:53.02 | Zolden | Merc G should be lightened from bottom |
| 12:53.13 | Zolden | in sc2 |
| 12:53.18 | Merc | oh right |
| 12:53.23 | Zolden | while standard purple ones are from top |
| 12:53.27 | Zolden | so requires invert |
| 12:53.28 | Merc | alright |
| 12:54.19 | Zolden | R and B cannels are empty and can be used to contain spec or emissive or alpha or whatever map |
| 12:54.27 | Merc | ooh |
| 12:54.32 | Merc | that's clever |
| 12:54.43 | Merc | I've been making seperate alpha maps |
| 12:54.47 | Merc | nice |
| 12:55.03 | Merc | would be a bit confusing to use "B" for alpha though, but I can live with that :d |
| 12:55.56 | Zolden | then in art tools' material's map pick, for example, R instead of RGBA, and it will only use that channel |
| 12:56.04 | Merc | yeah |
| 12:56.22 | Merc | that's genious |
| 12:56.48 | Zolden | well, lots of games use this |
| 12:57.16 | Merc | I haven't been playing around with this stuff since 2000-2003 |
| 12:57.37 | Zolden | though, it doesn't save much space, since dds file will be compressed much better if some of its channel empty |
| 12:59.01 | Merc | I reckon it will save more space than having a seperate file anyway |
| 12:59.11 | Merc | plus it's less messy |
| 13:00.41 | Zolden | yes |
| 13:05.10 | Merc | Checked out my collected assets last night, already up to 20 mb :p |
| 13:05.47 | Merc | hopefully it will be below 100mb though |
| 13:05.59 | Merc | would love to be able to stay below 50 if possible |
| 13:08.44 | Zolden | better to be below 10mb |
| 13:09.02 | Zolden | above it starts to make playeras cancel dl |
| 13:09.43 | Zolden | and I'd say that more than 50% will cancel 50mb dl for an unknown map |
| 13:10.50 | Merc | if they're testing random maps, sure |
| 13:11.02 | Merc | but if they want to try that particular map, they'll suffer the download |
| 13:16.40 | Ahli | you can cancel dls now? |
| 13:17.26 | Ahli | for me it just kept downloading it leaving me with 6fps :D |
| 13:29.26 | Zolden | dunno, maybe can't |
| 13:29.48 | Zolden | then ppl who was unlucky to try a 100 mb map are fucked |
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| 13:46.27 | kingTD | blue screen continues... |
| 14:11.46 | EmperorZolden | kingTD tried to remove dust from motherboard and graphic card and its coolers? |
| 14:12.00 | kingTD | 2 weeks ago |
| 14:12.41 | Zolden | and since then you have your blue screen? |
| 14:14.37 | kingTD | now its more rapid |
| 14:15.16 | kingTD | when got this HotS dependancy going, a lot freezing and bs happeing |
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| 14:52.29 | Zolden | kingTD tried to kick it and shout "stop bs'ing, you can of poop"? |
| 14:52.44 | kingTD | not yet |
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| 15:53.04 | Fenix_ | hey anyone knows a good group of mapmaker that are active? |
| 15:53.10 | zenxu | hello |
| 15:54.18 | Zolden | Fenix_ why u ask |
| 15:54.20 | Zolden | wanna join? |
| 15:54.37 | zenxu | oh mapster clan is for the best only |
| 15:54.38 | Zolden | zenxu himself is a good group of mapmakers that is active |
| 15:54.39 | Fenix_ | yeah I'm looking for people that would like to help me and my projects... |
| 15:55.13 | zenxu | I hate what a time consuming demon mapping is |
| 15:55.27 | zenxu | spent 2 days on some mapping and practically got nothing from it |
| 15:55.36 | zenxu | lke need 2 more weeks to get anything playable :( |
| 15:55.36 | Fenix_ | haha |
| 15:56.02 | zenxu | such is life |
| 15:56.09 | zenxu | i almost feel like giving up again but I mgiht not |
| 15:56.14 | zenxu | I might try |
| 15:56.31 | Fenix_ | As an example, I'd like to remake the map Hunger Games, I know this has already been done, but I want to push it further more... http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/hunger-games-fenix/ |
| 15:57.19 | Fenix_ | I really want the Survival, the Arena and the Players to be the core of the game |
| 16:01.50 | Fenix_ | Anyone knows where I could find some people interested in helping me? |
| 16:02.05 | kingTD | Fenix_ http://www.sc2mapster.com/teams/team-genesis/ |
| 16:02.12 | kingTD | they are quite active in skype |
| 16:02.15 | kingTD | when im online |
| 16:03.15 | Fenix_ | sounds good. I've posted a message to JackTheArcher which is a modo of the team and pretty active overall on sc2mapster. Just have to wait for an answer |
| 16:11.32 | zenxu | off he goes |
| 16:11.40 | zenxu | he leeched our souls and went away |
| 16:35.12 | kingTD | closed utube video, didnt crashed. |
| 16:44.56 | Zolden | open again, close, repeat until crash, complain in chat |
| 16:50.22 | Merc | sounds like my method |
| 16:50.52 | kingTD | well a lot of hdd work happening.. really not healthy behavior to be aquired |
| 16:51.56 | kingTD | so zolden what u doing? |
| 16:57.39 | Zolden | kingTD finished nigger units, making buttons, requirements, shitfreaquerments |
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| 17:04.32 | kingTD | mdsched.exe |
| 17:24.36 | Zolden | runme.exe |
| 17:31.27 | pirate | someone tell me it's possible to check if a specific inventory slot is occupied |
| 17:33.54 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/48/104/112.gif |
| 17:33.57 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 17:34.04 | Delphinium | zolden.exe |
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| 17:43.09 | kingTD | ammm, really my RAM max speed is 333? :s |
| 17:44.39 | kingTD | cant even find it on google it |
| 17:44.54 | A1win | O.o |
| 17:45.44 | A1win | modern RAM is like 1600 Mhz |
| 17:46.36 | kingTD | and its 3 chips with 1 gb.. wtf.. |
| 17:46.49 | A1win | may I suggest: sell your liver and buy a new PC |
| 17:47.41 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/5C0Ek.jpg |
| 17:48.00 | A1win | :x |
| 17:48.19 | kingTD | i may have better chances in sex slavery |
| 17:49.12 | kingTD | ohh, that value have to be multiplied by 2 |
| 17:49.39 | kingTD | i hope :s |
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| 17:58.42 | Bounty | poew |
| 18:02.34 | Zolden | view |
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| 18:35.17 | Vindicator | lol damn son upgrade ur PC |
| 18:38.20 | kingTD | selling liver or sex slavery is the only possible income opporunities to get that nigga computting |
| 18:38.51 | kingTD | 8-6 years old pc? |
| 18:40.13 | kingTD | with 3y old hdd, used gpu 260gtx and 2 year old power supply |
| 18:46.40 | Simca_ | the issue is that RAM is ancient even for DDR2 |
| 18:47.29 | Simca_ | PC2-6400 was the DDR2 standard for years |
| 18:47.47 | Simca_ | runs at about 3x the frequency of PC2-5300 |
| 18:53.30 | kingTD | well considering that it had worst psu inplace that couldnt supply gpu fully... so yeah |
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| 19:32.00 | kingTD | there are RAM testing programs that would test at pc start without shit entering the pc ports? as its XP that may not get those usb niggers detected as disks to run from and my dvd rom last time i disconnected it wasnt allowing to pc to start since it dont respond even to open button command |
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| 19:51.32 | A1win | woo, gravity waves apparently confirmed |
| 19:51.56 | DeadZergling | hurray, gravity exists once again! |
| 19:52.06 | DeadZergling | why is that so great? :P |
| 19:52.17 | A1win | dunno |
| 19:53.15 | Dustin | http://codecombat.com/multiplayer |
| 19:54.26 | A1win | On 17 March 2014, astronomers at the Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics announced that they had detected gravitational waves, providing strong evidence for inflation and the Big Bang. |
| 19:54.53 | A1win | http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/science/space/detection-of-waves-in-space-buttresses-landmark-theory-of-big-bang.html?_r=0 |
| 19:58.41 | DeadZergling | hate it when they say shit like this: trillionth of a trillionth of a trillionth of a second old. |
| 19:59.03 | DeadZergling | say 10^-36, or Undecintillionth |
| 19:59.07 | DeadZergling | but not that shit |
| 19:59.34 | A1win | ;x |
| 20:00.28 | DeadZergling | guess they failed the simplify sections of algebra :P |
| 20:06.13 | Zolden | will a black hole moving with speed of light generate gravitational waves? |
| 20:06.55 | Zolden | also, will gravity waves interference generate matterless black holes? |
| 20:07.25 | Merc | lol they said buttresses |
| 20:07.30 | Merc | buttress |
| 20:07.32 | Merc | butt. |
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| 20:07.37 | kingTD | ress |
| 20:11.43 | Zolden | rebutts |
| 20:12.36 | kingTD | *rebuttss |
| 20:14.29 | Zolden | the higher complete %, the lazier I become, the slower work goes, wtf |
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| 20:15.26 | kingTD | i did nothing today... eating, watching and feel frozen with this BSOD |
| 20:19.05 | Zolden | I felt frozen too today, when went outside in the snow world |
| 20:33.29 | Merc | hah, added smoke from the pipe of a blacksmith building with the particle emitter |
| 20:34.59 | Zolden | i'd call it chimney rather than pipe |
| 20:35.19 | kingTD | maybe its a pipe and not a chimney |
| 20:35.24 | zenxu | anyone |
| 20:35.26 | zenxu | can |
| 20:35.32 | zenxu | someone create terrain for me? |
| 20:35.35 | Zolden | do you mean you created particle emitter in art tools and made it generate smoke? |
| 20:35.36 | Merc | tube-thingy |
| 20:35.37 | zenxu | I dont have time for dat stuff |
| 20:35.47 | Merc | yes |
| 20:35.51 | kingTD | noone else have it here! |
| 20:35.52 | Merc | smoke doesn't look too bad either |
| 20:36.14 | Merc | it doesn't seem to be looping very well though in preview |
| 20:36.28 | Merc | but it's a start |
| 20:36.45 | Zolden | it will be looping, preview just jumps to start reseting particles |
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| 20:36.50 | Bounty | nom |
| 20:36.55 | Merc | alright, cool |
| 20:37.04 | Zolden | you can pull the end slider to prolong the animation |
| 20:37.05 | Merc | good morning (?) Bounty |
| 20:37.12 | Zolden | also make a screen, wanna see |
| 20:37.16 | Bounty | Afternoon, I've been up for awhile though lol |
| 20:37.21 | Zolden | Bounty hey drunky |
| 20:37.28 | Bounty | =P |
| 20:37.30 | Merc | well I wanna get all fancy now and add anvil strike sparks coming out |
| 20:38.02 | Zolden | Merc most of emitter's parameters have range, use it to make smoke look more natural |
| 20:38.07 | Bounty | One day I will drink too much and have to clean up the mess with Bounty paper towels. |
| 20:38.19 | Zolden | like rotation, size, lifetime, speed, direction, alpha |
| 20:38.29 | zenxu | whats bounty doing for the map contest? |
| 20:38.38 | zenxu | something with photons`? |
| 20:38.55 | Zolden | he goes ferminos this time |
| 20:39.05 | Zolden | fermion puddles |
| 20:39.05 | Bounty | 2D platformer action pvp blended with 3D transitional layers |
| 20:39.09 | Bounty | no photon |
| 20:39.33 | DeadZergling | one day Bounty will drink too much, and we will never hear about his unfortunate death |
| 20:39.35 | Bounty | you could probably throw shooter in there |
| 20:39.42 | DeadZergling | because he won't be able to tell us |
| 20:39.59 | Bounty | well, if there is anything after death I will be haunting you DeadZergling |
| 20:40.10 | Bounty | forever |
| 20:40.12 | zenxu | I need somekind of city terrain |
| 20:40.19 | zenxu | perhaps I should just take something from blizz maps |
| 20:40.31 | DeadZergling | small problem, you have no idea who I am, what I look like, or where I am |
| 20:40.48 | DeadZergling | so I can just laugh thinking about your ghost wandering aimlessly |
| 20:40.50 | Bounty | I'm sure there is some sort of database I can access in the afterlife |
| 20:41.22 | Zolden | DeadZergling ghosts can apply their hauntiness to all humans, and it will include you |
| 20:41.38 | DeadZergling | so ghosts are now gods? |
| 20:41.44 | DeadZergling | let's all go die now then :P |
| 20:41.48 | Zolden | each ghost has "apply to all humans" chackbox in their haunting menu |
| 20:42.02 | Bounty | You mix the koolaid DeadZergling |
| 20:42.14 | Bounty | I'll be the plastic cups |
| 20:42.21 | Bounty | from Walgreens |
| 20:42.27 | DeadZergling | I would, but koolaid is too complicated |
| 20:42.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 20:42.37 | DeadZergling | there is no way to fit that much water into that little packet |
| 20:42.43 | DeadZergling | instructions are too hard |
| 20:42.53 | Bounty | I wonder what that would taste like |
| 20:42.59 | Bounty | Just enough water to fill the packet |
| 20:43.22 | DeadZergling | Think it would taste like Diabetes |
| 20:43.45 | Zolden | diabletes |
| 20:44.02 | DeadZergling | we know you love Diablo 3 already Zolden |
| 20:44.07 | Bounty | diahbeatus |
| 20:44.34 | Bounty | Diarrbetes |
| 20:44.46 | Zolden | i plow diablo's red ass |
| 20:44.54 | DeadZergling | Don't make me start rhyming again, Bounty :) |
| 20:44.58 | DeadZergling | You know I will. |
| 20:45.04 | Zolden | while he screamed like a pig |
| 20:45.15 | Bounty | I wonder what color Diablos asshole is and if you can tell when it begins or does it just blend it? |
| 20:45.22 | Bounty | blend in* |
| 20:45.34 | Zolden | red blends to brown I guess |
| 20:45.36 | Bounty | that and he has a vagina now |
| 20:45.39 | DeadZergling | why don't you ask Zolden, sounds like he has a lot of in depth experience |
| 20:46.38 | Bounty | Nephalapdance |
| 20:52.00 | Merc | goddamn |
| 20:52.08 | Merc | I imported this awesome anvil to the blacksmith |
| 20:52.19 | Merc | but it's got holes in the polygons or whatever |
| 20:56.12 | Merc | hmh, fixed some of it by unifying normals |
| 20:56.17 | Merc | still is a hole though.. |
| 20:56.17 | pirate | uhhgggg |
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| 21:04.06 | DeadZergling | Question for any willing to answer it, what are the 5 things a computer must have to run. My answer was Motherboard, CPU, Power Supply, Hard Drive, and RAM, although this probably wasn't the right answer, any thoughts? |
| 21:04.31 | Merc | electricity? |
| 21:05.00 | DeadZergling | well the idea is to narrow it down to 5 things |
| 21:06.00 | DeadZergling | was thinking maybe replace hard drive with BIOS |
| 21:06.03 | DeadZergling | but that is included with the motherboard... |
| 21:06.35 | Merc | electricity, ingenuity, silicone, carbon, quartz |
| 21:06.41 | Merc | hur hur |
| 21:07.40 | DeadZergling | no biggy if no one knows, just thought among so many nerds someone might have this memorized |
| 21:12.51 | A1win | depends on what is meant by "a computer" I suppose |
| 21:13.43 | A1win | at its core, it's just a processing unit and memory |
| 21:15.20 | A1win | and of course, it can't actually do anything without software |
| 21:15.35 | Bounty | Plutonium and Axe shower gel. |
| 21:16.08 | Merc | sounds like serious piece of machinery |
| 21:17.35 | A1win | DeadZergling, A general purpose computer has four main components: the arithmetic logic unit (ALU), the control unit, the memory, and the input and output devices (collectively termed I/O). These parts are interconnected by buses, often made of groups of wires. |
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| 21:29.46 | ArcanePariah | Yoink Doink |
| 21:30.12 | Bounty | Ploink |
| 21:30.31 | ArcanePariah | Are Actor Events handled in the order they are written? |
| 21:30.44 | DeadZergling | no |
| 21:30.56 | ArcanePariah | So if a given actor receives a message and has 3 events for that message, what order do they get processed in? |
| 21:31.26 | DeadZergling | this sounds like a Jade question, lol |
| 21:31.55 | A1win | from what I've noticed, they do get processed in that order, but I haven't really run any tests |
| 21:32.02 | Bounty | ^ |
| 21:32.04 | DeadZergling | if it was the exact same event, I'd assume linearly, but as far as I'm concerned it is basically simultaneous |
| 21:32.13 | Bounty | If I need a sequence to fire in order I just use timers in the actor |
| 21:32.22 | ArcanePariah | Alrighty |
| 21:32.25 | Merc | Zolden: here you go http://i.imgur.com/19OVk37.png |
| 21:32.43 | ArcanePariah | Zug Zug? |
| 21:32.47 | Merc | gonna use team colors on the roof I guess |
| 21:32.50 | Merc | zug zug |
| 21:32.57 | ArcanePariah | :D |
| 21:33.01 | DeadZergling | Stroden |
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| 21:45.30 | Zolden | Merc add some rotation |
| 21:45.48 | Zolden | make it -90 to 90 start and same to end |
| 21:46.15 | Zolden | also randomize size for +/-20% |
| 21:46.37 | Zolden | also, make size smaller at start and bigger at end |
| 21:46.49 | Zolden | also, less alpha at end |
| 21:47.11 | Zolden | also, make it more gray at start and whiter at end |
| 21:48.00 | Zolden | then the smoke will be better than the one when cop opens the door to the car full of niggers |
| 21:49.02 | DeadZergling | so many sentences, but no hitler reference, a new record for Zolden |
| 21:49.20 | ArcanePariah | I just assumed the cop was hitler |
| 21:49.35 | Zolden | record would be to have maximum sentences including hitler reference in a row |
| 21:50.02 | Zolden | now it's not a big deal, even baby could spam hitlerless sentences |
| 21:50.25 | Zolden | cops hawe wider moustache than hitler's |
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| 22:03.09 | Zolden | anyone would like to play a game of yourletters.org with me? |
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| 22:47.39 | Bounty | lol http://abcnews.go.com/International/russian-broadcaster-warns-turning-us-radioactive-dust/story?id=22936988 |
| 22:48.16 | ArcanePariah | Yes I read that. Of course, the reverse is also true, US could vaporize all of Russia with not a lot of effort either. |
| 22:48.42 | Bounty | Indeed |
| 22:49.05 | ArcanePariah | Despite the various disarmament treaties, the sheer power of a single fusion bomb makes the number of nukes almost moot. |
| 22:49.08 | Bounty | I think its going to happen lol |
| 22:49.57 | ArcanePariah | Really, because of the current design of fusion bombs, they have no limit on yield, the only limit is the delivery system. |
| 22:50.30 | Bounty | I don't think it matters where it detonates |
| 22:50.39 | Bounty | If enough of them detonate its gg Earth |
| 22:50.52 | ArcanePariah | Nah, GG Humans, earth will be fine |
| 22:51.05 | Bounty | Well yeah |
| 22:51.13 | Bounty | Bad wording, my bad >.< |
| 22:51.18 | ArcanePariah | Medium size astroid has far more power then all our nukes combined. |
| 22:51.47 | Bounty | Well with that it is very important where it hits |
| 22:51.59 | Bounty | pref ocean |
| 22:53.27 | ArcanePariah | Not really. Hitting the ocean will still unleash a tsunami that would be... destructive to say the least. |
| 22:54.10 | ArcanePariah | Even if it dropped in the middle of the pacific, it would probably kill everyone on western coasts of North and South America and everyone on east coast of china, along with all of Japan/Korea/Phillipines |
| 22:54.16 | Bounty | depends how big of a crater it makes in the ocean |
| 22:54.47 | Bounty | water from the tsunami gets sucked back out |
| 22:55.02 | Bounty | Would not go that far in land, would still be bad though lol |
| 22:55.37 | ArcanePariah | Which is the bad part, that's where it does REAL damage, since the force of it receding is just as powerful, if not more so. |
| 22:56.16 | Bounty | I would prefer that vs it going much deeper inland |
| 22:56.44 | Bounty | like if for some reason the meteor exploded just over the ocean |
| 22:56.48 | Bounty | that would suck |
| 22:57.01 | Bounty | would go so far inland lol |
| 22:57.11 | ArcanePariah | Well it wouldn't explode lol |
| 22:57.14 | ArcanePariah | Meteors can't |
| 22:57.40 | ArcanePariah | On the upside, if a meteor did strike earth, would be the biggest iron mine on Earth :P |
| 22:57.52 | Bounty | I was under the impression they explode sometimes? |
| 22:58.25 | ArcanePariah | Don't see how, most are made of Nickel/Iron which are very stable (Iron being the most nuclear stable element). |
| 22:59.14 | Bounty | http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2009/10/28/q-a-how-could-a-meteor-explode/ |
| 22:59.41 | Bounty | I don't think they could detonate that close to the surface though |
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| 22:59.57 | Bounty | didnt* |
| 23:00.09 | Bounty | must be very rare |
| 23:00.48 | ArcanePariah | Yes, because it assumes A) Water in the roid and B) Incident angle to actually burn up/induce enough friction |
| 23:01.04 | ArcanePariah | Most fail both those catagories |
| 23:01.45 | ArcanePariah | Though that does remind me of a common sci fi thing, using asteroids or other objects and dropping them from space as a precision weapon of mass destruction. |
| 23:02.04 | ArcanePariah | One had the US military using lead rods. |
| 23:02.52 | ArcanePariah | Which made sense, Lead being dense and thus would have maximum kinetic energy for a given volume. Rods having no cross section would lose little kinetic energy while falling, and have maximum terminal velocity. |
| 23:04.53 | Zolden | nice conversation |
| 23:05.08 | ArcanePariah | Yes, armageddon and all the jazz |
| 23:05.19 | ArcanePariah | How about you? Modeling away or mapmaking? |
| 23:06.52 | Bounty | I predict Armageddon will happen in about 10-20.... |
| 23:06.55 | ArcanePariah | Of course, none of this matches some of the stuff people are observing, like colliding blackholes. |
| 23:06.57 | Bounty | million years |
| 23:13.54 | Zolden | both |
| 23:16.33 | Bounty | Hawking has been saying that black holes don't exist |
| 23:25.06 | DeadZergling | I just hope Bruce Willis is still around when they find out a meteor is going to hit earth |
| 23:25.11 | DeadZergling | so he can save us all :P |
| 23:27.46 | pirate | is it possible to have items that don't automatically stack |
| 23:28.02 | ArcanePariah | As in charges not stacking? |
| 23:28.15 | ArcanePariah | Sadly, no, not afaict, I also have the same problem |
| 23:28.22 | pirate | right |
| 23:28.48 | pirate | so if one is added to an inventory it doesn't automatically combine with another of the same |
| 23:28.56 | pirate | but it can if you place the two on top of each other |
| 23:29.20 | DeadZergling | is probably a messy way to force them not to stack, but is just bleh |
| 23:29.58 | pirate | my 'loot screen' in game is actually another inventory that only opens/has stuff added to it after a battle |
| 23:30.32 | pirate | there's no fun in looted grenades automatically stacking in your real inventory if you don't get to click on them |
| 23:31.05 | pirate | hm, maybe consumable items will only be obtainable from shops instead of looting |
| 23:31.15 | pirate | "the technology just isn't there yet" |
| 23:31.55 | DeadZergling | you could make the triggers so they won't stack, but not sure how you'd go about making them stack then |
| 23:32.06 | DeadZergling | when you want it to happen |
| 23:34.15 | pirate | yeah... |
| 23:34.24 | pirate | that seems overly messy |
| 23:37.24 | DeadZergling | cleanest way would be to have a dialog driven inventory, with a really small data bag of just one slot |
| 23:37.48 | pirate | data bag? |
| 23:37.51 | pirate | one slot? |
| 23:38.05 | DeadZergling | if they pick something up, it gets either put into the dialog inventory, or dropped, it gets deleted from their one slot either way |
| 23:38.22 | DeadZergling | and that way, charges are controlled entirely by dialogs |
| 23:39.07 | pirate | yeah but, that defeats the purpose of my entirely data driven inventory system |
| 23:39.34 | DeadZergling | thought your purpose was to have a good inventory |
| 23:39.36 | DeadZergling | not a data driven one |
| 23:40.09 | pirate | specifically 'the least bad inventory' |
| 23:40.25 | pirate | and I've decided that means being data driven for responsiveness and dragability |
| 23:40.40 | DeadZergling | well, stackable expendables that can be unstacked on command easily |
| 23:40.43 | DeadZergling | would definitely be less bad |
| 23:41.28 | pirate | responsiveness + dragability >> unstacked stackables |
| 23:42.03 | DeadZergling | Error: no cin or file referenced! |
| 23:42.25 | pirate | and there is the workaround of having dummy loot stackables that turn into real stackables once they leave the loot container |
| 23:43.35 | DeadZergling | aye, I just left stackables alone myself as it wasn't THAT important to me |
| 23:43.42 | DeadZergling | but I know you had higher hopes, lol |
| 23:44.43 | Bounty | What is the best way to make a ship move in zero gravity |
| 23:44.50 | Bounty | with only 1 directional thrusting |
| 23:45.04 | Bounty | from top down perspective |
| 23:46.58 | pirate | grrrr, gifcam is misbehaving |
| 23:47.03 | pirate | I wanted to show my inventory progress |
