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| 00:10.16 | Bommes | http://i.imgur.com/5jX6i1Q.gif |
| 00:10.27 | Bommes | wtf is that |
| 00:18.21 | Bommes | http://i.imgur.com/wF4HKV1.jpg |
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| 00:19.15 | Bounty | Pew |
| 00:29.00 | MoonEater | lol |
| 00:29.02 | MoonEater | funny |
| 01:05.21 | MoonEater | Bounty |
| 01:06.37 | Bounty | MoonEater |
| 01:07.19 | MoonEater | i was loooking |
| 01:07.22 | MoonEater | at dependancies |
| 01:07.27 | MoonEater | noticed somthing odd |
| 01:07.56 | MoonEater | lets say im a noob and publish a melee without changing the default dependacies |
| 01:08.02 | MoonEater | will that dependacy keep? |
| 01:08.11 | MoonEater | or better yet a fked up dependacy |
| 01:08.38 | MoonEater | i ask because of void ray invulnerability behavior im noticed on alot of units |
| 01:08.42 | MoonEater | i mena |
| 01:08.50 | MoonEater | void ray vulerability behavior |
| 01:09.43 | MoonEater | Bounty |
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| 01:35.09 | rtschutter | is there a way to disable a player's ability to select units? |
| 01:35.11 | rtschutter | on his own? |
| 01:37.06 | Bommes | Trigger "Enable/Disable Selection Type" |
| 01:37.42 | Bommes | Enable/Disable Drag Selection |
| 01:38.31 | Bommes | dunno if you can still set a unit as selected after that though |
| 01:40.15 | rtschutter | ok I will try |
| 01:48.54 | rtschutter | works perfectly |
| 01:48.55 | rtschutter | thanks man |
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| 02:21.31 | Bounty | Peow |
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| 02:51.55 | sandyravage | what field should I be setting to have a created unit attack when spawned, and see me as an ally? |
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| 03:08.51 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 03:32.31 | Bounty | Who wins the contest should be awarded with a ceremony similar to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4NK1t6lvCU#t=2m57s lol |
| 03:32.46 | Bounty | Except the whole being killed part afterwards of course |
| 03:36.57 | rtschutter | can you use a behavior to modify an ability for a unit? |
| 03:39.19 | rtschutter | for example, to increase the cooldown or energy cost of an ability without creating an entirely new ability |
| 03:47.48 | sandyravage | i had a similar thing done through triggers |
| 03:47.52 | sandyravage | with catalogs |
| 03:48.00 | sandyravage | deadzergling helped me out with that |
| 03:48.10 | sandyravage | except i reduced cooldown |
| 04:01.18 | JademusSreg | rts, there's a number of buffs that modify costs in the campaign data. |
| 04:17.23 | sandyravage | what field should I modify for my created unit to attack enemies when I say I create it on top of them? Do i need to do an issue order or something related? |
| 04:18.11 | JademusSreg | Rephrase? Don't understand the question. |
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| 04:22.54 | sandyravage | Figured it out :P but i got another problemo |
| 04:23.14 | sandyravage | Was a stupid goof that was my problem |
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| 04:33.34 | sandyravage | Having some actor trouble, where it's simply not displaying the model when the event happens. Have the events setup so the model should display when the create unit effect occurs. |
| 04:34.30 | sandyravage | Even tried having the event on the set containing the create unit, but that doesn't seem to be working either. Not sure what I may be doing wrong, but created most of my other working actors like this |
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| 05:37.54 | Deathbringer | Hey guys I got a problem. When I give myself money inside the game witha command and go to the shop to buy something it says "You cannot use another players resources" know what the problem is? |
| 05:38.35 | Deathbringer | JademusSreg |
| 05:39.17 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah |
| 05:39.19 | Ahli | shop not belonging to player 0? |
| 05:39.29 | Deathbringer | Its a neutral shop |
| 05:39.38 | Deathbringer | So player 0 |
| 05:39.43 | Ahli | does the shop have the flag set? |
| 05:39.52 | Ahli | there is some unit flag that influences that, I believe |
| 05:40.01 | Deathbringer | Whats it called? |
| 05:40.15 | Ahli | don't know, look for stuff that might fit |
| 05:40.40 | Ahli | shared resources or something like that :X but I can't really remember it |
| 05:43.16 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 05:44.02 | Deathbringer | Theres two flags marked |
| 05:44.05 | Deathbringer | Share Control |
| 05:44.08 | Deathbringer | And Autocast |
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| 05:44.42 | Realrtschutter | JademusSreg, I am famed modder rtschutter |
| 05:44.45 | JademusSreg | The alliance state spend may be useful. |
| 05:45.14 | JademusSreg | Hi thar Laj. Your impersonation is spot-on/ |
| 05:45.24 | Realrtschutter | And I fuck chickens up their butthole. |
| 05:45.48 | A1win | how do I set an image frame's image type to "End Cap" in XML? |
| 05:46.02 | Deathbringer | Does making everyone an ally count? |
| 05:46.06 | Realrtschutter | How did you know it was I? |
| 05:46.26 | Deathbringer | JademusSreg Does making everyone an Ally count for that error to occur? |
| 05:47.09 | JademusSreg | It's a specific alliance state, not covered by the plain ol' alliance GUI action. |
| 05:47.26 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.28 | Deathbringer | I have this |
| 05:47.40 | Deathbringer | Picked Player = Everyone |
| 05:47.42 | JademusSreg | Laj, saw your handle change roughly last night. =D |
| 05:47.55 | Deathbringer | Would this count? |
| 05:48.02 | JademusSreg | No. |
| 05:48.15 | A1win | nvm found it |
| 05:48.18 | Deathbringer | Thats weird |
| 05:48.30 | Deathbringer | Well there's no other alliance state I can think off. |
| 05:48.42 | Ahli | ctrl + F and type your nick... izi, lajlla |
| 05:48.59 | Realrtschutter | JademusSreg, how did you know? |
| 05:49.35 | Deathbringer | Any other idea? |
| 05:50.22 | JademusSreg | There are many different alliance states, not just Ally, Enemy, and Neutral options. |
| 05:50.35 | JademusSreg | Those are composites of alliance states. |
| 05:51.07 | Deathbringer | I have nothing that makes them share things. |
| 05:53.36 | Deathbringer | Anything else you can suggest? Cause its working for other people just not me |
| 05:53.52 | Deathbringer | Well at least with the money I'm using with commands |
| 05:55.15 | Ahli | what are you trying to do in the shop? training abilities don't work in shops :S |
| 05:55.42 | Ahli | in the end, you can always make a shop for each player :D I did that in temple siege 2 |
| 05:55.56 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's the route most people taker. |
| 05:55.58 | JademusSreg | *take. |
| 05:56.02 | Deathbringer | To buy items |
| 05:56.12 | Deathbringer | Its 1 shop for all. |
| 05:56.22 | Ahli | mine appears like 1 shop for all, too :D |
| 05:56.36 | JademusSreg | ^ |
| 05:56.53 | ArcanePariah | ??? |
| 05:56.54 | Ahli | but actually everyone can only select his own transparent shop and the animation is played by a neutral one that reacts to every hero |
| 05:56.57 | JademusSreg | Properly implemented, players won't notice the difference. |
| 05:57.10 | ArcanePariah | Train abilites work fine in shops... unless I'm misunderstanding shops |
| 05:57.26 | ArcanePariah | My game runs train abilites and it creates the unit in inventory correctly |
| 05:57.33 | Ahli | well, I had problems with shop stuff... might have been because I wanted a shop for each team |
| 05:57.44 | Deathbringer | Well I'll just spawn my items then inside of buying them. |
| 05:57.59 | Deathbringer | Anyone know a fast way to do it inside of making a trigger command for each item? |
| 05:58.08 | Deathbringer | instead* |
| 05:58.17 | Bounty | Well, I just figured out how to make a rhythm game playable on bnet |
| 05:58.20 | Bounty | with multiple players |
| 05:58.25 | Bounty | AWWWWWWWWW YEAH |
| 05:58.27 | Bounty | >.< |
| 05:58.39 | ArcanePariah | Also, why a shop per player? |
| 05:58.40 | JademusSreg | Indulge us. |
| 05:58.45 | Bounty | Nope |
| 05:58.46 | Bounty | =P |
| 05:58.51 | Bounty | After May I will |
| 05:58.53 | Bounty | lol |
| 05:59.03 | Bounty | It was actually quite simple |
| 05:59.07 | Bounty | Best I can say is |
| 05:59.10 | Bounty | avoid soundtracks |
| 05:59.24 | ArcanePariah | To make a shop work for all players at once, just make an interact ability and untick the "exclusive" flag |
| 05:59.25 | Bounty | work with sounds as the classification and create a few triggers |
| 05:59.27 | Bounty | and you're good to go |
| 05:59.29 | Bounty | =P |
| 06:00.27 | Ahli | 1 shop for each player to meet the following requirements: each team has its own shop that only they can use + each shop displays different stuff depending on the hero using it, also, f*ck ability limit as hero amount and shop iupgrade/item list wasn't capped |
| 06:01.39 | ArcanePariah | Oh ok, I wasn't sure why one would have multiple shops just to fake the same for everyone |
| 06:01.55 | ArcanePariah | Also, how does ability limit come into play at all? |
| 06:02.16 | ArcanePariah | Unless your shop has 32 * 30 itmes... |
| 06:02.24 | ArcanePariah | 640 items is... a few :p |
| 06:02.29 | Ahli | :D |
| 06:02.30 | ArcanePariah | err 960 |
| 06:17.49 | Realrtschutter | Ahli, why does everyone dislike it when I take their nickname? |
| 06:18.58 | JademusSreg | Seems rather flattering. |
| 06:19.21 | Bounty | I should have been the first person you impersonated.. psh |
| 06:20.01 | A1win | ugh, how can I create an image UI elements over the default menu buttons (help, social, menu) D: |
| 06:20.06 | A1win | -an |
| 06:20.26 | A1win | doesn't let me put it inside those elements in the XML |
| 06:20.38 | Bounty | render priority? |
| 06:21.17 | A1win | I guess I'm failing at anchoring them to the right place or something |
| 06:21.21 | A1win | just isn't showing up |
| 06:21.22 | JademusSreg | Think you mean image frames. |
| 06:21.28 | A1win | ...yeah |
| 06:21.46 | A1win | I mean, I put it inside the menubar console anchor and it showed up but was behind the button |
| 06:22.12 | A1win | err so if I can change the render priority, I guess I could do that |
| 06:22.32 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 06:22.40 | A1win | how do I change it? :P |
| 06:23.19 | JademusSreg | RenderPriority is a property of all frame classes / can be an element in a Frame of any frame type. |
| 06:23.27 | JademusSreg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/7445/ |
| 06:23.34 | JademusSreg | Line 104 |
| 06:23.52 | A1win | and what values should I use? |
| 06:24.17 | JademusSreg | Start with 512, increase until it works or the game crashes. |
| 06:25.42 | A1win | set it to 900000 and it's still behind the button |
| 06:26.57 | JademusSreg | I'd compare that to assigning 9000 to an 8 bit register. |
| 06:27.26 | A1win | tried smaller values too ;p |
| 06:28.35 | JademusSreg | I've not seen a render priority up to 1024, but no matter. |
| 06:29.25 | JademusSreg | You're attempting to get an image to render over button? Instead of changing the frame in question? |
| 06:29.46 | Ahli | can't you just edit the images of the button? |
| 06:30.03 | A1win | I edited the images of the button, but those are just the frames |
| 06:30.07 | A1win | I want to put an icon over them |
| 06:30.32 | A1win | and it doesn't let me add an image frame inside those frames, says they are "blizzard only" or something |
| 06:30.35 | Ahli | so, ideally, you could like to alter the appearance of the button? |
| 06:30.39 | Ahli | *would |
| 06:31.10 | A1win | just trying to make them match my UI style |
| 06:31.13 | JademusSreg | Annoying restrictions. What change did you have in mind? |
| 06:31.48 | Ahli | for example, I'm using custom images in my gameheart interface: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=19134164 |
| 06:31.48 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a120/SC2%202014-02-02%2008-31-19-70.jpg |
| 06:32.08 | Ahli | yeah, totally possible |
| 06:32.51 | A1win | I know it's possible, considering I could just swap those images to ones that have both frame and an icon, but it'd be easier to do with just putting an icon as an overlay over them |
| 06:33.21 | Ahli | blizzard only usually indicates that your path is wrong |
| 06:33.39 | Ahli | because that should only appear when you create new stuff |
| 06:33.51 | Ahli | and creating images is fine |
| 06:34.09 | A1win | I'm trying to create an Image frame inside the MenuBar/SocialButton frame |
| 06:34.38 | A1win | err |
| 06:34.40 | A1win | derp |
| 06:34.42 | A1win | now it worked |
| 06:35.12 | A1win | exxcept that for some reason its size is not what it's supposed to be |
| 06:35.25 | A1win | or maybe it is... nvm |
| 06:35.39 | A1win | *drinks more caffeine* |
| 06:38.00 | ArcanePariah | lol |
| 06:39.00 | A1win | O.o now it went behind the button ag ain |
| 06:39.16 | A1win | I guess I removed render priority |
| 06:39.23 | A1win | yeah had to be 513 |
| 06:40.47 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:41.28 | A1win | just need to make a matching icon for the social button: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a120/SC2%202014-02-02%2008-40-51-99.jpg |
| 06:41.53 | A1win | and I guess I should put a border frame behind all those, look a bit floaty |
| 06:42.02 | JademusSreg | Do so enjoy being me. Rathering like being a database, but with a devastatingly handsome interface. |
| 06:42.34 | JademusSreg | *Rather |
| 06:43.51 | JademusSreg | Inadvertedly busted a rhyme so sick they called in the CDC. |
| 06:44.02 | A1win | any way to globally change the default tooltip border or its color? |
| 06:44.20 | JademusSreg | Color, maybe. |
| 06:44.31 | JademusSreg | Border, asset overrides. |
| 06:44.33 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 06:44.33 | Ahli | yes, but it's not that globally |
| 06:45.31 | Ahli | tooltip image -> as jade said, tooltip text -> alter styles |
| 06:45.35 | JademusSreg | (Or could define a custom tooltip.) |
| 06:45.50 | Ahli | (which is impossible when the content is dynamic, I assume) |
| 06:46.40 | JademusSreg | (line 110) |
| 06:47.08 | Ahli | (I don't know what that is refering to, but good night) |
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| 07:25.33 | A1win | how does image alpha masking work? |
| 07:25.46 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 07:26.06 | A1win | I want to fade the edges of an image transparent |
| 07:26.13 | A1win | without modifying the icon itself |
| 07:27.24 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 07:27.45 | JademusSreg | Line 92 |
| 07:27.53 | JademusSreg | <AlphaMaskTexture val="sometexture"/> |
| 07:28.04 | JademusSreg | Supported by all frame classes. |
| 07:28.08 | A1win | how should I set up the texture? |
| 07:28.34 | Zolden | gradient |
| 07:28.58 | Zolden | the whiter - the less transparentier |
| 07:29.02 | A1win | alright |
| 07:29.24 | JademusSreg | I'm not aware if the texture scales to the frame dimensions or what, but presumably, the whiteness of the pixels in the texture alpha channel represents opacity. =D |
| 07:29.48 | JademusSreg | iirc, HotS campaign uses alpha masking for some shit. |
| 07:30.18 | JademusSreg | So if you need examples, they can be found in the standard stuff. -D |
| 07:30.21 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 07:30.32 | A1win | how do I create an alpha channel in photoshop <.< |
| 07:30.53 | JademusSreg | See the Layers tab? Click the Channels tab beside it. |
| 07:31.52 | JademusSreg | You'll see a channel for each channel supported by the image mode (like R, G, and B channels for RGB image modes). |
| 07:31.53 | A1win | yeah got it |
| 07:31.57 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 07:32.59 | A1win | now if I only could figure out how to make a better blend for this |
| 07:33.56 | Zolden | create white square under the part that should be opacue |
| 07:34.07 | Zolden | then create outer glow |
| 07:34.35 | A1win | was using inner shadow but it didn't seem to have good enough options |
| 07:39.37 | A1win | uff how can I center this square in the middle of the image D: |
| 07:39.43 | A1win | all the alignment controls are greyed out |
| 07:40.05 | A1win | ah nvm, had to select the image and the square |
| 07:40.51 | Zolden | i usually have that little window with coordinates |
| 07:42.10 | A1win | can I somehow create this square in the alpha channel or do I have to flatten and copy-paste there |
| 07:46.46 | Zolden | you can draw in alpha, but there is no blending options, so just copy it there from normal layer |
| 07:47.52 | Zolden | do you remember, which function rounds that wayt that it's 1 if operand >= 0.5, and 0 if operand < 0.5? |
| 07:49.08 | A1win | Round? ;p |
| 07:49.09 | JademusSreg | Ceiling |
| 07:49.35 | A1win | ceiling makes it always 1 if it's > 0 |
| 07:49.46 | A1win | (and less than or equal to 1) |
| 07:50.20 | A1win | err |
| 07:50.22 | JademusSreg | Yeah, probably. Not sure how effective Round is. |
| 07:50.37 | A1win | Round is the regular rounding function |
| 07:50.47 | A1win | other options are Floor and Ceiling, and they do their thing |
| 07:50.49 | Zolden | is se there are 3 functions, ceiling, floor and round |
| 07:51.02 | A1win | this alpha mask doesn't do anything, only the image itself does |
| 07:51.07 | Zolden | one of them should be the one with 0.5 as a threshold |
| 07:51.18 | A1win | oh wait nvm |
| 07:51.24 | A1win | deleted wrong channel |
| 07:51.43 | JademusSreg | Also gotta save in the correct format. =D |
| 07:52.20 | A1win | it's dds, somehow it just looks like it's a hard cut alpha rather than a blend D: |
| 07:52.29 | A1win | even though it shows correctly in editor preview |
| 07:53.02 | Zolden | yea, hitler once saved his peaceful evolution plansa in incorrect format, and when they were opened, there were war, war, war... |
| 07:53.33 | A1win | oh dds3 is "explicit alpha" |
| 07:53.48 | Zolden | it shuold be something dx5 |
| 07:53.49 | A1win | ...but as dds5 the alpha doesn't work at all O.o |
| 07:53.54 | A1win | *dx |
| 07:54.19 | A1win | *dxt |
| 07:54.45 | Zolden | DXT5 ARGB 8 bpp | interpolated alpha |
| 07:54.47 | Zolden | this one |
| 07:54.53 | A1win | yeah, it doesn't work at all |
| 07:55.04 | Realrtschutter | A1win, how would you say in Finnish 'PC gaming master ace'? |
| 07:55.05 | Zolden | it does |
| 07:55.06 | A1win | doesn't give an alpha mask to the image |
| 07:55.15 | A1win | it shows up correctly in editor |
| 07:55.20 | A1win | but it doesn't do anything D: |
| 07:55.42 | Zolden | maybe it should be a correct blend mode |
| 07:55.50 | Zolden | some doesn't use alpha, some does |
| 07:56.08 | A1win | blend mode? |
| 07:56.31 | Realrtschutter | A1win, just PC pelaaminen mestari rotu? |
| 07:56.40 | Zolden | when you create dialog item of image type, there blend mode can be picked, not sure how to do it in your ui stuff |
| 07:57.10 | A1win | I'm using Set Dialog Item Alpha Mask |
| 07:57.15 | Realrtschutter | Is pelaaminen a word? |
| 07:57.47 | Zolden | maybe "set background"? |
| 07:57.51 | A1win | Realrtschutter, stop trolling with your nicknames (and everything else) and I might consider replying <.< |
| 07:57.57 | Realrtschutter | A1win, Sä VIHAAT MUA. |
| 07:58.23 | A1win | Zolden, but the alpha mask thing works with DXT3 |
| 07:58.39 | Realrtschutter | Sä aina vihaat mua. |
| 07:58.40 | Realrtschutter | =( |
| 07:58.46 | A1win | should I try making it an actual image with Multiply mode? |
| 07:59.23 | Realrtschutter | A1win, vihaaja. |
| 08:00.08 | Realrtschutter | Vihaatjat menee vihaamaan |
| 08:01.22 | A1win | hmm this might work |
| 08:01.26 | A1win | yeah, woo |
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| 08:03.43 | Realrtschutter | A1win, vihaava vihaaja. |
| 08:04.25 | Realrtschutter | Sä haluat tappaa mua ja silloin nussia mua kuolleehen silmäkuppaani |
| 08:05.07 | Realrtschutter | sä haluat raiskata mut kuoliaaksi moottorisahalla |
| 08:05.54 | Realrtschutter | Niin plajon mua sä vihaat |
| 08:05.55 | Realrtschutter | vihaat |
| 08:06.36 | Realrtschutter | JademusSreg, everyone hates me. |
| 08:07.07 | A1win | ah, haven't ignored anyone in several years o: |
| 08:08.13 | Zolden | A1win this is strange, I've been always using dxt5, and everything always works |
| 08:08.29 | A1win | Zolden, have you ever used the Alpha Mask feature though? |
| 08:08.35 | Zolden | nope :) |
| 08:08.37 | A1win | you were talking about blending modes, it works fine with that |
| 08:09.13 | Zolden | yea, also for models all textures are in dxt5 |
| 08:10.30 | A1win | ah if I use Multiply, I shouldn't even use alpha channel |
| 08:11.19 | A1win | yay now it works ;p |
| 08:11.59 | Zolden | if you can multiply with other channels, then yes |
| 08:12.21 | Zolden | actually alpha mask getting applied by default in nothing but multiply mode |
| 08:12.56 | A1win | err, except that this actually makes the icon black instead of transparent :P |
| 08:13.05 | A1win | why did I think it'd apply transparency |
| 08:13.28 | Zolden | because your mind was in transparency context |
| 08:14.43 | Zolden | ok, RoundI does the 0.5 thing as expected |
| 08:14.48 | A1win | oh there's alpha mode too |
| 08:15.15 | A1win | alpha mode that did nothing |
| 08:16.18 | A1win | yeah not working <.< |
| 08:17.36 | A1win | can only get it to work with explicit alpha (DST3) |
| 08:18.17 | A1win | maybe I'll just give it a border instead of alpha blend then... |
| 08:19.32 | Realrtschutter | A1win, on koska sä et vihaa mitään mutta mua |
| 08:19.33 | Realrtschutter | Sä vihaat mua niin paljon |
| 08:20.19 | Realrtschutter | enemmän kuin Amerikan George toista |
| 08:20.27 | A1win | pretty ugly ;p |
| 08:22.28 | Realrtschutter | Ajatteletkin että olen ruma. |
| 08:23.12 | Realrtschutter | VIHAAJA |
| 08:23.13 | Realrtschutter | Sä vihaat kaikkea musta |
| 08:23.54 | Realrtschutter | kaikkea ja kaikkia ja kaikkialla ja aina, sen tulee olla 'kaikkilloin' |
| 08:23.55 | Realrtschutter | Zolden, can you ask A1win why she hates me? |
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| 08:32.11 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a120/SC2%202014-02-02%2010-31-42-33.jpg |
| 08:32.27 | A1win | was trying to make those icons have fading edges |
| 08:32.51 | A1win | made it so that while dead, the menu buttons are there in the center, and while in-game, they move to the top-right as icons |
| 08:33.08 | A1win | as seen here: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a120/SC2%202014-02-02%2008-40-51-99.jpg |
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| 09:07.35 | Zolden | debugging code is more exciting than creating it |
| 09:10.34 | Zolden | because when you create, you work with subsystem, and when debug, you work with the whole system |
| 09:11.24 | Zolden | and sometimes interactions between subsystems make the whole system complex enough to have lots of fun trying to locate the sourse of bug |
| 09:13.24 | Zolden | right, kingTD? |
| 09:13.59 | kingTD | yes masta |
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| 09:51.02 | kingTD | finger the hole |
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| 09:56.05 | Zolden | fun vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYw4meRWGd4 |
| 09:56.45 | Zolden | for example, when he opens the hatch and air escapes the chamber |
| 10:28.58 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KZ1mA1NeUmU |
| 10:37.17 | G0A | n1 |
| 10:40.22 | Serashin | GUYS |
| 10:45.30 | Zolden | i uploaded a bugged version and a huge mob of fat acid lings destroyed both teams at wave 4 |
| 10:47.00 | duckies | gj, leave it at that, at least this way every game won't last over an hour =D |
| 10:48.23 | duckies | zolden did you upload it on EU or NA? |
| 10:50.11 | Zolden | on na |
| 10:50.32 | Zolden | you have 30 sec to try it, uploading fixed version |
| 10:51.42 | rtschutter | check it out guys |
| 10:51.43 | rtschutter | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49867307/PureCTF/Screens/001.jpg |
| 10:52.07 | rtschutter | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/49867307/PureCTF/Screens/002.jpg |
| 10:52.38 | Zolden | it doesn't open them |
| 10:52.49 | Zolden | maybe you have privacy setting? |
| 10:52.56 | rtschutter | they are in the public folder |
| 10:53.00 | rtschutter | I use this all the time |
| 10:53.04 | rtschutter | like everyday |
| 10:53.05 | rtschutter | x100 |
| 10:53.16 | Zolden | doesn't open ;/ |
| 10:54.03 | rtschutter | http://imgur.com/HL32x1z,juNBhdM |
| 10:54.53 | Zolden | yea, that's better |
| 10:55.58 | rtschutter | I want to create a weapon |
| 10:56.01 | rtschutter | that when you fire it |
| 10:56.05 | rtschutter | nothing happens for about a second |
| 10:56.13 | rtschutter | and then it almost instantly goes across the entire screen |
| 10:58.51 | Zolden | like a HUGE MOTHERFUCKING BOMB? |
| 10:59.29 | Zolden | for second delay you can use presistent's delay or weapon fire delay |
| 11:01.45 | Zolden | crap, I have so many ideas of maps o create for the competition, but when I imagine the winner map, I understand that it should have a cool polished UI, and UI is something that I will definitely won't do anything about |
| 11:02.01 | Serashin | yo zolden |
| 11:02.07 | Zolden | hey |
| 11:02.12 | Serashin | is kuecken still comming here from time to time ? |
| 11:02.26 | Zolden | yea |
| 11:02.29 | Serashin | need some data expert to look at my map to know where to sort stuff out |
| 11:02.52 | Zolden | u can wait alot, jsut post a question in data forum |
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| 11:03.46 | Serashin | it isnt really about a question i suppose |
| 11:04.26 | Serashin | last time he helped me he gave me the advice to remake it because the data is a mess wich does cause lag . he didnt specific were the stuff is messed up . either way a question alone wont bring soltion i think |
| 11:04.33 | Serashin | a look at it does |
| 11:05.21 | Zolden | this means you don't understand your stuff |
| 11:05.39 | Zolden | if you would, u'd be able to generate a question |
| 11:05.42 | Serashin | yes im more a casual ^^ |
| 11:05.59 | Serashin | its even half in KR the map |
| 11:06.05 | Serashin | so even more annoying for my head , lol |
| 11:06.20 | Zolden | u hacking kr map? |
| 11:07.08 | Serashin | nah its a old data , wich didnt get update for 2 years i wanna give those players a update . some things i still dont know how to fix |
| 11:07.12 | Serashin | but i did plently already |
| 11:20.42 | rtschutter | zolden UI is the easy part |
| 11:21.17 | rtschutter | just use basic images so it never looks too crazy |
| 11:21.27 | rtschutter | I like to use solid black for my UI usually |
| 11:21.37 | rtschutter | with just text on top |
| 11:21.50 | rtschutter | and maybe a thin pixel border around buttons or sections of the ui |
| 11:23.52 | rtschutter | okay I should sleep |
| 11:23.53 | rtschutter | cya |
| 11:43.16 | duckies | lol devastators are wonderful post wave 37 |
| 11:43.32 | duckies | just saw them blow up mass reapers =D |
| 12:20.22 | Zolden | oh yeah |
| 12:20.31 | Zolden | but still reapers are a bit op |
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| 13:58.07 | kingTD | yo |
| 14:34.26 | Zolden | huyo |
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| 14:46.13 | Zolden | sc2println hey |
| 14:46.20 | Zolden | plan to make a map for the competition> |
| 14:46.22 | Zolden | ? |
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| 15:57.13 | A1win | woo team deathmatch almost ready |
| 15:57.19 | A1win | just need to add team score on UI |
| 16:00.52 | A1win | I didn't think of friendly fire o: I'm pretty sure it should be always enabled for the most part because of how persistent the projectiles are |
| 16:01.03 | A1win | but I wonder if there should be some kind of protection |
| 16:01.42 | A1win | like no friendly damage from projectiles that are less than 2 seconds old or something |
| 16:01.54 | A1win | could be confusing... |
| 16:06.31 | A1win | other option would be to use team colored projectiles and have no damage from friendly projectiles at all, not even from one's own |
| 16:07.06 | A1win | could be better, more elegant |
| 16:22.06 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a121/SC2%202014-02-02%2018-21-20-78.jpg |
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| 18:19.56 | A1win | blorg https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1211592/ms/changelog.txt |
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| 18:39.29 | Deathbringer | Ahli, what function do I use to check what items are in a persons bag? |
| 18:42.46 | Deathbringer | Ahli |
| 18:51.18 | Ahli | iterate over the units inventory items |
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| 18:53.02 | Serashin | Hello , can someone tell me how to remove a unit wich gives me upon placing the error (cant be shown display scalation error 0.001 . didnt find it in actors . and saved the spawned unit accidently . but it messes with how the game plays out . was spawning it testwhise . now i cannot remove it with selecting |
| 18:53.38 | Serashin | nvm seems like i found a way . spawn multiple and select the invisible with it |
| 18:56.05 | sc2println | "Test Document" + Playing vs AI: When I use test document to test an extension mod I made I instantly win, is there a way to specify the players? |
| 18:56.42 | sc2println | There is a mysterious "Additional Options" field in the "Test Document"-Perferences |
| 19:00.22 | kingTD | http://openra.res0l.net/ |
| 19:10.24 | Serashin | Is here a data expert , who can take a look at my map ? My problem is following : i upgraded the map from WoL to HoTS so ofc some data got messed up . But i dont understand how this bug happens |
| 19:10.52 | Bommes | specify what exactly happens |
| 19:10.54 | Serashin | basicly its 35 heros . all of them have a kind of stimpack . for some it shows ingame and for some it dont . they are tagged protoss and heoric |
| 19:11.35 | Serashin | i have been trying to reapply or find requirements |
| 19:11.38 | Serashin | didnt find either |
| 19:11.41 | Serashin | so im confused |
| 19:11.48 | Serashin | and for some it still works even |
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| 19:20.43 | Serashin | actually it works for nearly everyone |
| 19:20.53 | Serashin | just found 3 so far wich i had to disable because of that |
| 19:20.56 | Serashin | still cant see why |
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| 19:34.25 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 19:35.42 | Bommes | ! |
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| 20:02.33 | kingTD | , |
| 20:03.23 | Dustin | % |
| 20:06.26 | JademusSreg | ʾ˃꜠ˁᴾᶷᵑᶜᶵᶶᵆᶡᶤᶿᶯˀ꜡˂ʿ |
| 20:09.48 | Dustin | ORLY? |
| 20:10.05 | Bommes | ø |
| 20:12.13 | JademusSreg | (If your client only supports ascii, that shit will look like a bunch of boxes.) |
| 20:12.46 | Dustin | I got a bunch of bs random chars |
| 20:12.50 | Dustin | IS that unicode? |
| 20:13.00 | JademusSreg | Yar. |
| 20:13.27 | JademusSreg | Some of them are bullshit random chars: ʾ˃꜠ˁˀ꜡˂ʿ |
| 20:13.35 | Dustin | Hmm |
| 20:13.37 | Dustin | Im using Liberation Mono,10,N |
| 20:13.41 | Dustin | Which I thought was unicode |
| 20:13.50 | JademusSreg | Some of them are "modifiers": ᴾᶷᵑᶜᶵᶶᵆᶡᶤᶿᶯ |
| 20:14.24 | JademusSreg | You may use a unicode-enabled font, but the client must support it too. |
| 20:14.30 | Dustin | Ah |
| 20:14.38 | Dustin | Ya Hydra IRC is probably lacking in that dept |
| 20:14.54 | Dustin | I should switch back to mIRC |
| 20:15.23 | Bommes | KVIrc seems really good |
| 20:15.32 | Bommes | using it for a while now and seems better than mIRC imo |
| 20:15.45 | JademusSreg | The bullshit random chars you get is probably the client interpreting the unicode bytes as individual ascii bytes. |
| 20:15.53 | Bommes | especially since it isn't annoying all the time with registration stuff etc |
| 20:17.01 | JademusSreg | Apparently cracked versions of mirc aren't at all annoying. Or so I'm told. </plausibledeniability> |
| 20:17.43 | Bommes | #piratesaboard |
| 20:18.42 | Bommes | so I pirated Might and Magic X the other day |
| 20:18.59 | Bommes | and it actually has some kind of Shader that you can enable in the options to pixelate everything to make it look like its from 1995 or something |
| 20:19.02 | Bommes | it's ridiculous |
| 20:20.28 | Dustin | Yeah my main client has always been mIRC, since I was 14 |
| 20:20.55 | Zolden | Dustin same |
| 20:21.00 | Dustin | That's awesome Bommes |
| 20:21.32 | Bommes | Dustin: http://i.imgur.com/A9WCTnC.png |
| 20:21.46 | Bommes | doesn't extend to the UI though |
| 20:21.49 | Zolden | lol |
| 20:22.07 | Dustin | That's the coolest shit ever |
| 20:22.22 | Dustin | can I see a ss of what the same area looks like without the shader? |
| 20:22.28 | JademusSreg | attempts to devise a portmanteau for "hilarious" and "hideous". |
| 20:22.37 | JademusSreg | Hilarideous? |
| 20:23.21 | Bommes | I don't have a screenshot of the same area but here's how the graphics look without the filter http://postimg.org/image/d2brlpiqn/full/ |
| 20:23.36 | Bommes | though the settings seem to be set to pretty low, it's not that hideous if you set it to ultra |
| 20:23.40 | Bommes | still not a great looking game though |
| 20:24.47 | JademusSreg | I stand corrected. Looks better with the pixelation. |
| 20:25.07 | JademusSreg | Because the shadow shaders, shit, that's awful. |
| 20:26.14 | Dustin | oh wow ya |
| 20:26.21 | Dustin | Turn on the shitty shaders |
| 20:26.24 | Dustin | Cause wow |
| 20:26.51 | Dustin | lol look at the wall, it's floating and casting a shadow under itself |
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| 21:39.32 | mille25 | hi |
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| 21:46.54 | Bommes | hi |
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| 21:49.36 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 21:49.42 | ArcanePariah | sup mille25, Bommes |
| 21:50.21 | mille25 | everyone in here preparing for the mapping contest? :D |
| 21:51.28 | ArcanePariah | Some are I believe, I am not currently, just pressing on with notD 2, plus school projects (mostly boring shit, but gotta do it) |
| 21:51.48 | mille25 | yeah... school... |
| 21:51.50 | ArcanePariah | Should be interesting what people come up with |
| 21:51.54 | mille25 | got most exams done fortunately. |
| 21:52.17 | ArcanePariah | I do like the relatively straightforward design specifications Blizzard gave, along with a reasonable timeline |
| 21:52.45 | mille25 | i was kinda surprised that they dont require you to start the project together with the contest though |
| 21:52.54 | mille25 | well they probably couldnt validate it anyways... |
| 21:53.25 | ArcanePariah | Correct, plus length of development has no real correlation with quality of work, only polish |
| 21:53.42 | mille25 | the problem is that polish takes time though :D |
| 21:54.00 | ArcanePariah | It does, but that polish is usually correlated to complexity of project |
| 21:54.08 | Bommes | hmm |
| 21:54.08 | ArcanePariah | Simpler = less polish time needed |
| 21:54.15 | Bommes | attached particle models do NOT like turret movements |
| 21:54.37 | ArcanePariah | For instance, if you decide to modifiy the UI, you now need to polish the UI, which is entire branch of stuff to know/learn/test |
| 21:54.50 | mille25 | yep. |
| 21:55.00 | ArcanePariah | Or if you decide to intergrate AI |
| 21:55.06 | ArcanePariah | integrate* |
| 21:55.12 | mille25 | on the other side every more or less innovative and fresh project will need custom UI imo, if its only to simplify the concept. |
| 21:55.52 | ArcanePariah | True, but even within that, there are levels of complexity. Do you modify the default UI or simply add to it? What kind of elements do you use? How many elements? |
| 21:56.11 | ArcanePariah | Programming is unique in that size = complexity |
| 21:56.13 | Bommes | are you going to submit something to the contest mille? |
| 21:56.14 | mille25 | while it might be possible to create smth new and exciting with custom UI i believe that the ui plays an important part when it comes to creating a refreshing game :D |
| 21:56.27 | mille25 | we might submit SCU, but not sure yet. |
| 21:56.39 | mille25 | depends on how it fits our timeframe |
| 21:56.58 | ArcanePariah | And even if nothing comes of it, the experience of working towards an externally defined deadline is a pretty good approximation of real world development |
| 21:57.14 | ArcanePariah | Most software projects do not get to choose their deadlines, other forces do |
| 21:57.33 | mille25 | and thats when the bugs start showing up... :P |
| 21:57.52 | mille25 | im excited to see how many serious entries there will be. |
| 21:57.53 | ArcanePariah | Mmhmm, which further emphasizes good design to prevent some of those bugs |
| 21:57.56 | mille25 | the prices are quite good. |
| 21:58.01 | JademusSreg | "Freshness" is a requirement, iirc. =D |
| 21:58.23 | ArcanePariah | Yes, 7 grand is nothing to scoff at, and Blizzcon tickets are quite nice, usually difficult to obtain plus sell fast |
| 21:58.25 | mille25 | especially the localization into korean is cool. |
| 21:58.37 | ArcanePariah | That too, localization is an expensive endeavor |
| 21:58.43 | ArcanePariah | Most can not do it |
| 21:58.59 | mille25 | it would be kinda hilarious if blizzard had to localize SCU |
| 21:59.03 | mille25 | i guess they cant make it win |
| 21:59.16 | mille25 | because its more text than their bodies can handle. |
| 21:59.42 | ArcanePariah | Perhaps, but I doubt the text in your game exceeds that of the SC campaigns |
| 22:00.00 | mille25 | the only problem is that i messed up and didnt always use text for localizable stuff. |
| 22:00.06 | mille25 | because we never intented to localize. |
| 22:00.06 | Bommes | I'll definitely work hard to have a finished map which I'm comfortable submitting until then :) Dunno how "serious" the entry will be considering there are probably other maps with multiple people working on it and a lot of custom assets and stuff. |
| 22:00.26 | mille25 | Bommes: one thing i really like is that it seems like there are teams getting formed right now. |
| 22:00.32 | mille25 | thats smth i really missed for a long time on mapste.r |
| 22:00.52 | mille25 | there is alot of talent, but nobody really wants to work together to achieve smth big. |
| 22:01.08 | ArcanePariah | Well, as I said before, the clear requirements and reasonable time frame make for an attractive opportunity |
| 22:01.16 | mille25 | yeah |
| 22:01.28 | mille25 | i hope they run this sort of contest more frequently now |
| 22:01.33 | ArcanePariah | 4 months makes things very reasonable in terms of either prototyping, assembling teams, etc. |
| 22:01.43 | mille25 | maybe twice a year . :) |
| 22:02.01 | mille25 | i mean ... pro gamers have tournaments |
| 22:02.05 | mille25 | mappers could have contests :D |
| 22:02.18 | ArcanePariah | Also, it is fairly realistic to real world projects. A lecture given by a ex employee of LG (he was the TA) said they were usually on a 6 month schedule between phone iterations |
| 22:02.34 | JademusSreg | I'm definitely entering. =D |
| 22:02.50 | mille25 | id say 4 months is a perfect time frame to create a very fun and polished minigame sort of mod. |
| 22:02.58 | ArcanePariah | Mmhmm |
| 22:07.08 | Ahli | or a minigame containing mod, mille25, that's my map idea for that :D |
| 22:13.32 | mille25 | nice |
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| 22:16.56 | mille25 | btw, my gfx card just died all of the sudden yesterday |
| 22:17.09 | mille25 | while working, my screen got white with red lines, rebooted the computer, blackscreen only |
| 22:17.28 | mille25 | it only works if i uninstall the driver for 640*480 resolution... |
| 22:17.44 | mille25 | im using onboard graphics now ... D: |
| 22:17.49 | Bommes | Hmm I can attach a particle based model (like the Smoke or Fire models) to an attachment point on top of a turret and it rotates with the turret. I can attach the same model to a model that is attached with several site operations to an attachment point on top of a turret and it will rotate correctly. |
| 22:18.04 | Bommes | But if I apply the site operations directly to the particle model and try to attach it |
| 22:18.08 | Bommes | it won't rotate correctly |
| 22:18.21 | Bommes | weird stuff |
| 22:21.36 | ArcanePariah | Bommes, my first guess is to see if the particle model is inheriting the host rotation |
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| 22:24.36 | ArcanePariah | If the model has a host, it should be using the host bearings |
| 22:24.49 | ArcanePariah | If it doesn't then it won't update correctly |
| 22:25.25 | ArcanePariah | I'm assuming you are attaching it when the main model with turrent is being created? |
| 22:31.48 | Bommes | yeah |
| 22:34.27 | Bommes | I mean it should definitely be an actor problem and not linked to the model in any way |
| 22:34.38 | Bommes | I'll just redo it from scratch and see if the problem is still there |
| 22:39.01 | Bommes | seems to work now |
| 22:39.23 | Bommes | I just messed up the first actor apparently, although I'm not sure how |
| 22:39.40 | Bommes | since the second one should be identical ^^ whatever |
| 22:42.25 | ArcanePariah | Hehe, reminds of a picture I have about programming: The code doesn't work, I don't know why.... The code works, I don't know why |
| 22:44.53 | rtschutter | How do I make it so an ability is greyed out when it doesn't meet a requirement? |
| 22:49.53 | Ahli | don't they do that by themselves? |
| 22:50.13 | rtschutter | doesn't seem to |
| 22:50.20 | rtschutter | there is no place to put a validator on the ability |
| 22:50.25 | rtschutter | so I have to put it on the effect |
| 22:50.40 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, greyed out only happens for actual requirements |
| 22:50.48 | ArcanePariah | Not validator |
| 22:50.49 | Ahli | validator != requirement |
| 22:50.55 | rtschutter | yeah but what the fuck |
| 22:51.12 | ArcanePariah | When a validator fails, it simply throws an error |
| 22:51.23 | rtschutter | I am using a behavior count validator |
| 22:51.31 | rtschutter | what is the point in a requirement |
| 22:51.33 | rtschutter | that makes no sense |
| 22:51.45 | ArcanePariah | Because requirements can check for things validators can not |
| 22:52.02 | rtschutter | but I don't need it to check for something a validator cant |
| 22:52.27 | rtschutter | the data editor is so unintuitive |
| 22:52.32 | rtschutter | its really dumb |
| 22:52.43 | ArcanePariah | But if you want an ability to be entirely unavailable, you will need to use a requirement. Also there is a validator for requirements |
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| 22:54.09 | rtschutter | I don't understand how this behavior counting requirement works |
| 22:54.18 | rtschutter | it says count behavior total |
| 22:54.26 | rtschutter | but how do I compare that toal to a value? |
| 22:54.39 | Ahli | use a compare element before that? |
| 22:54.42 | ArcanePariah | What you want is first, an Equals |
| 22:54.51 | ArcanePariah | So create an equals element |
| 22:54.58 | rtschutter | I did |
| 22:55.11 | ArcanePariah | Then, in the equals, put your count behavior, and once you do that, put a Constant |
| 22:55.20 | ArcanePariah | The constant is the value compared |
| 22:55.41 | rtschutter | ah okay |
| 22:55.42 | rtschutter | I see |
| 22:56.05 | ArcanePariah | The reason it is separate is because it allows one to compare multiple things, not necessarily constants |
| 22:56.31 | ArcanePariah | Say I want a requirement that oonly works when the upgrades of terran vehilcles is the same as infantry upgrades |
| 22:56.43 | ArcanePariah | And things of that nature |
| 22:57.09 | ArcanePariah | Hopefully that makes sense |
| 22:57.15 | rtschutter | how do I plug a unit requirement into a validator now though? |
| 22:57.22 | rtschutter | I dont see a unit requirement validator type |
| 22:57.25 | rtschutter | only player requirement |
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| 22:57.40 | ArcanePariah | Well, what do you mean by unit requirement? |
| 22:57.47 | rtschutter | I need a validator |
| 22:57.56 | rtschutter | so I can check to see if a unit has a behavior for an ability |
| 22:58.09 | rtschutter | so I setup my unit behavior count requirement |
| 22:58.20 | ArcanePariah | Then in the requirment, put count behavior completed at Unit |
| 22:58.23 | rtschutter | but now I need to put that requirement into a validator somehow so that I can put it into the ability |
| 22:58.35 | rtschutter | the requirement is done |
| 22:58.39 | ArcanePariah | So it will only count the behavior present on the unit that is using the ability |
| 22:58.42 | rtschutter | I just need to know how to put it into a validator now |
| 22:58.43 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah I got a question, what function is it called to check a persons items in their bag? |
| 22:59.15 | ArcanePariah | rtschutter, player requirment validator, find = enabled, and place the requirment you just made in it |
| 22:59.28 | rtschutter | but that is a player requirement |
| 22:59.32 | rtschutter | I need a unit dont I? |
| 22:59.35 | Ahli | deathbringer: for each unit in unit group |
| 22:59.36 | rtschutter | why would they word it so terribly |
| 22:59.44 | Ahli | unit group are the carried inventory items |
| 23:00.13 | ArcanePariah | Well because requirements are checked on a player to player basis |
| 23:00.46 | rtschutter | but to have a requirement called "Player Requirement" and then a validator called "Player Requirement" and then to have the validator take requirements other than player requirements |
| 23:00.49 | rtschutter | is completely retarded |
| 23:01.18 | Deathbringer | Ahli How does that tell you what items are in their bags? |
| 23:01.50 | ArcanePariah | rtschutter, I agree that it is not the most consistent naming scheme |
| 23:02.13 | rtschutter | this is why sc2 editor has had such a hard time taking off |
| 23:02.16 | rtschutter | nothing and I mean nothing |
| 23:02.20 | rtschutter | about the data editor |
| 23:02.23 | rtschutter | is even remotely intuitive |
| 23:02.35 | ArcanePariah | Actually... you are both correct and not correct |
| 23:02.36 | Ahli | deathbringer, then check the inventory container slot they are in |
| 23:02.59 | Ahli | *"inventory item container" I mean |
| 23:03.05 | Deathbringer | Is there anyway I can use something that can attach to this function? Unit Group - Pick each unit in (Selected units for player (Triggering player)) and do (Actions) |
| 23:03.10 | ArcanePariah | Correct in that it is not intuitive for an average person, but incorrect in that for a person with a CS/Software engineering background, it is fairly straight forward |
| 23:03.37 | ArcanePariah | At it's simplest, it is a giant finite state machine, and we are defining the states |
| 23:03.59 | ArcanePariah | But that very design both makes it highly abstract (and thus difficult to understand) and highly powerful/flexible |
| 23:04.17 | Deathbringer | Ahli ? |
| 23:04.25 | ArcanePariah | And it is difficult if not impossible to have both simple and powerful |
| 23:04.40 | Ahli | no? |
| 23:04.47 | rtschutter | powerful/flexible is useless if the only people who can use your tool are people who would be better served creating games in external engines |
| 23:04.53 | Deathbringer | Well cause what I want to do is |
| 23:05.04 | Deathbringer | Select the unit |
| 23:05.20 | Deathbringer | And I type in "!Check" |
| 23:05.34 | Deathbringer | Then it checks the units items and it tells me through a chat message. |
| 23:05.39 | Deathbringer | Is there anyway thats possible? |
| 23:05.47 | ArcanePariah | Perhaps |
| 23:05.51 | Ahli | check for what? |
| 23:05.55 | Ahli | yes, totally possible... |
| 23:06.01 | Deathbringer | The units items in their bag. |
| 23:06.18 | Ahli | what is bag? inventory slot 1,2,3,...? |
| 23:06.27 | rtschutter | dammit |
| 23:06.32 | rtschutter | it didn't work in the end after all of this |
| 23:06.34 | rtschutter | fucking shit |
| 23:06.41 | Deathbringer | It goes up to slot 1-6 |
| 23:06.52 | ArcanePariah | Well, let's back up, what are we trying to do rtschutter? |
| 23:07.17 | Deathbringer | Ahli Its an Inventory, which the slots go from 1-6 |
| 23:08.31 | rtschutter | PMing you |
| 23:08.34 | rtschutter | Arcane |
| 23:08.53 | Deathbringer | Ahli? |
| 23:09.13 | Ahli | so, you want to check every item that is not in the inventory? |
| 23:09.30 | Ahli | with inventory I mean the equipped thing |
| 23:10.13 | Deathbringer | Yes, I want to check every item IN the inventory. |
| 23:10.47 | Ahli | every item the unit carries? |
| 23:11.04 | Deathbringer | Yes |
| 23:11.13 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.19 | Ahli | done |
| 23:11.35 | Ahli | item is a variable with the type unit |
| 23:13.02 | Ahli | *of |
| 23:14.01 | Deathbringer | What function is that again? ^ |
| 23:14.49 | Deathbringer | Wait wait wait |
| 23:14.51 | Ahli | For Each Unit In Unit Group |
| 23:14.51 | Deathbringer | Whats item? |
| 23:14.57 | Ahli | item is a unit variable |
| 23:15.00 | Ahli | items are units |
| 23:15.13 | Deathbringer | You mean my units have to be in a variable? |
| 23:15.34 | Ahli | it's just a loop |
| 23:15.45 | Ahli | as you would want ot check every item for something, I assume |
| 23:16.07 | Deathbringer | I do but its the Unit Variable that kills me |
| 23:16.15 | Ahli | "Inventory Items carried" is a function that returns a "unit group" of the items carried by a specified unit |
| 23:16.22 | Deathbringer | All Units = No Unit <Unit[10]> |
| 23:16.26 | Deathbringer | Is this good? |
| 23:16.38 | Ahli | I do not understand |
| 23:16.55 | Deathbringer | Well you said I need a variable. |
| 23:16.57 | Ahli | do you know how to kill every unit in a unit group? |
| 23:17.34 | Ahli | if yes, apply that knowledge to check every item in a unit's inventory |
| 23:17.56 | Deathbringer | Its just that I need a variable as you said |
| 23:18.27 | Ahli | it depends if you use "for each" or "Pick each" |
| 23:18.31 | Deathbringer | And I dont know how to create a variable |
| 23:18.35 | Deathbringer | I do |
| 23:18.36 | Deathbringer | But like |
| 23:18.44 | Deathbringer | What type? |
| 23:18.47 | Ahli | unit |
| 23:18.49 | Deathbringer | What does the settings of the Variable have to be? |
| 23:18.50 | Ahli | items are units |
| 23:19.01 | Deathbringer | Okay so its set to unit. |
| 23:19.17 | Deathbringer | Do I adjust the size? |
| 23:19.26 | Deathbringer | Do I click "No Unit"? |
| 23:19.28 | Ahli | no? |
| 23:19.35 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:19.46 | Ahli | do we have a variable tutorial on mapster? |
| 23:20.13 | JademusSreg | Doubt it. |
| 23:20.29 | Deathbringer | Does this look good? |
| 23:20.30 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.37 | JademusSreg | Do people need tutorials for variables? =D |
| 23:20.40 | Deathbringer | ? |
| 23:20.51 | Ahli | well, inital value should be no unit |
| 23:21.00 | Ahli | but any item is the same as no unit :D |
| 23:21.20 | Deathbringer | Okay so its good correct? |
| 23:21.23 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.32 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.34 | Deathbringer | Kk |
| 23:23.50 | Deathbringer | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3313 |
| 23:23.53 | Deathbringer | Does this work? |
| 23:23.56 | Ahli | "for each" uses a variable as a parameter, it will receive the value the loop gives to it for each execution of the contained actions.... so "for each integer V from 1 to 10 with increment 1" will execute the contained actions with V=1, after that with V=2, after that with V=3, ...., V=10 |
| 23:24.32 | Deathbringer | Ahli This good? http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3313 |
| 23:24.50 | Ahli | I would make the items variable a local variable |
| 23:25.04 | Ahli | because you don't need it outside that function |
| 23:25.10 | Ahli | or this trigger |
| 23:25.36 | Deathbringer | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3314 |
| 23:25.37 | Deathbringer | Good? |
| 23:26.43 | Ahli | yeah that should execute the actions like the message for all inventory items that the selected units carry |
| 23:27.51 | Deathbringer | ?? |
| 23:27.51 | Deathbringer | Ahli ? |
| 23:28.08 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:28.16 | Deathbringer | Hello??? |
| 23:28.19 | Ahli | hi |
| 23:28.33 | Deathbringer | Okay so |
| 23:28.40 | Deathbringer | What do I said for message? |
| 23:28.50 | Deathbringer | said - set*** |
| 23:29.03 | Ahli | yeah, well, what do you want ot display? |
| 23:29.15 | Deathbringer | I want to to tell me the items |
| 23:29.53 | Ahli | you have a unit and want to display its name... |
| 23:30.26 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.58 | Ahli | or you make a text variable, connect multiple names after another and display all in one message |
| 23:31.10 | Deathbringer | Ahli This good? http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3315 |
| 23:31.33 | Ahli | yes, as long as you have at most 8 items |
| 23:31.39 | Deathbringer | Kk |
| 23:32.43 | Deathbringer | Thanks. |
| 23:33.18 | Ahli | time to ladder a bit |
| 23:33.55 | Bommes | time to watch a sport where I have no fucking clue whats going on |
| 23:35.24 | ArcanePariah | That being? |
| 23:36.02 | ArcanePariah | Please tell me it is something interesting (aka not an American sport...) |
| 23:36.14 | ArcanePariah | American sports are so... boring... |
| 23:36.40 | Bommes | super bowl |
| 23:37.06 | ArcanePariah | Ahh.... yeah... boring as hell... not to mention it has this nasty tendency to get you killed eventually |
