| 00:04.24 | JademusSreg | Unit fly height map is modifiable at runtime, iirc, but I'm not aware of a similar feature for camera. |
| 00:08.29 | Nytemare3701 | Good news, I just figured out how to do customized map generation via deformation and invisible footprints. |
| 00:08.48 | Nytemare3701 | My roguelike project is one step closer to reality :-D |
| 00:24.01 | Bommes | rtschutter, you still need help? |
| 00:24.07 | Bommes | with that projectile thing |
| 00:25.15 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=442140#8 lul, placement of units is kind of buggy |
| 00:26.09 | Bommes | http://www.hearthhead.com/card=189/fire-elemental the golden fire elemental card looks badass |
| 00:27.12 | Bommes | and that placement thing is really weird |
| 00:27.15 | Ahli | seriously sc2... you want me to download enGB locale for no reason again? ;X |
| 00:27.28 | Ahli | I don't want enGB... Y u no understand :X |
| 00:30.19 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 00:36.55 | Nytemare3701 | Would someone be interested in looking at my terrain generator? I goofed something simple somewhere in the trigger for it, but it DOES work (it just doesn't turn like it's supposed to) |
| 00:38.25 | Nytemare3701 | nvm, I think I found it. |
| 00:40.58 | JademusSreg | Hm. Still haven't found a satisfactory solution got unit squad interface. |
| 00:41.19 | JademusSreg | *solution for |
| 00:42.19 | Bommes | what are the requirements for a working unit squad? Like how should the units behave? |
| 00:43.10 | Bommes | or is the gameplay part of it down and you are just unsure on how to represent it in the UI? |
| 00:43.13 | Nytemare3701 | IT WORKS. Random map generation with pathing is now a thing. |
| 00:46.01 | JademusSreg | Only concerned about the interface in the sense of how the player interacts with it; ideally, selection of any squad member unit would redirect to the squad unit (the one to which the members are tethered), but I've yet to determine an elegant solution to such redirection. |
| 00:47.23 | Bommes | ah |
| 00:55.06 | A1win | does elegant imply asynchronous or is there a design level problem with handling it with script? |
| 00:56.34 | JademusSreg | Handling it with script necessarily involves delay, distasteful. |
| 00:56.41 | A1win | mm |
| 00:57.12 | Nytemare3701 | Untitled Trigger 001 |
| 00:57.12 | Nytemare3701 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.13 | Nytemare3701 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.13 | Nytemare3701 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:57.15 | Nytemare3701 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.17 | Nytemare3701 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.19 | Nytemare3701 | shit |
| 00:57.21 | Nytemare3701 | sorry |
| 00:57.23 | Nytemare3701 | meant to pastebin that. |
| 00:57.25 | A1win | haha |
| 00:57.26 | JademusSreg | Haha, silly. |
| 00:57.41 | Nytemare3701 | I'm pretty sure you know that works though. |
| 00:57.54 | Nytemare3701 | ^stupid-simple version of the effect you want. |
| 00:57.56 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure that's precisely what I intend to avoid. |
| 00:57.57 | A1win | we just discussed it |
| 00:58.11 | Nytemare3701 | Ah, I was busy writing that. I'm not exactly great at this yet. |
| 00:59.55 | Nytemare3701 | Could someone take a look at this real quick and tell me why it refused to travel towards 270? |
| 00:59.56 | Nytemare3701 | http://pastebin.com/2PSA4Bdh |
| 01:00.28 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 01:01.16 | Nytemare3701 | It's a script to loop the creation and destruction of a banana., moving it 1 space in a direction each loop. 95% chance of continuing in the same direction |
| 01:01.22 | Nytemare3701 | 5% chance of changing direction |
| 01:01.28 | A1win | wrong paste |
| 01:01.40 | Nytemare3701 | goddamnit. |
| 01:01.44 | A1win | I want to sleep ;.; |
| 01:02.01 | Nytemare3701 | http://pastebin.com/DFD5jey4 |
| 01:02.04 | Nytemare3701 | Ok, THERE. |
| 01:02.15 | Nytemare3701 | friggin copy/paste. |
| 01:02.29 | A1win | onöy slept for 2 hours and been awake for more than a third |
| 01:02.56 | Nytemare3701 | For some reason, it can go in any direction except directly down. If it does, it stops after the first step. (which implies I fucked up the 270 part of the triggers somewhere) |
| 01:03.07 | JademusSreg | Nope, just not even. Needz moar abstraction. |
| 01:03.22 | Nytemare3701 | Eh? |
| 01:03.39 | JademusSreg | Which for GUI means more custom functions/actions. |
| 01:04.29 | JademusSreg | For reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DRY_principle http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abstraction_principle_(programming) |
| 01:06.51 | Nytemare3701 | I don't know of any part of this trigger that I can condense. The repeats are just different enough to warrant being there. |
| 01:06.58 | JademusSreg | Which is to say wherever the code would literally repeat itself, better to move it to a descriptively-named function; results in more readable, less error-prone code |
| 01:07.09 | A1win | I got a neat idea for achievements... a cyclic format of about 5, each content patch adds a couple (to unlock new features) and removes and auto-unocks a couple of the oldest ones |
| 01:07.16 | JademusSreg | "Just different enough" to warrant passing said differences through parameters. |
| 01:09.19 | Nytemare3701 | Ok, I get what you are saying, but I don't have the knowledge to do such a thing right now. If you can show me how one would condense this trigger, I'd be all for it. |
| 01:10.08 | Nytemare3701 | I very much doubt you have that kind of time though. It's not your job. |
| 01:11.19 | JademusSreg | Consider: void DoShit (int x) { int y; y = (x+1)/10; y = (x+10)/100; } |
| 01:11.44 | Nytemare3701 | I have no idea what you wrote there. |
| 01:13.34 | A1win | if you want to do complex stuff with triggers, you might want to learn some computer science bassics first (scripting is a form of programming) |
| 01:13.36 | JademusSreg | The operations involved in the assignment to variable y are logically similar: (x+n)/n*10 for example. So it could be rewritten as: int MakeShit (int x, int n) { return (x+n)/n*10; } void DoShit (int x) { int y; y = MakeShit(x,1); y = MakeShit(x,10); } |
| 01:14.25 | A1win | basics even |
| 01:15.05 | A1win | (fingering my android in my bed) |
| 01:15.10 | JademusSreg | One simply identifies patterns within the code and turns them into their own functions. |
| 01:15.17 | JademusSreg | A1, kinky. |
| 01:15.33 | Nytemare3701 | I have a serious mental block when it comes to syntax in general. I've studies multiple languages for multiple years, and had a personal tutor for a year, and I still can't write a hello world in any language because of the need for syntax. |
| 01:16.10 | A1win | :s |
| 01:16.44 | JademusSreg | The syntax is irrelevant, the logic is what matters in abstracting out repetitive code. |
| 01:17.34 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 01:18.13 | ArcanePariah | Nytemare3701, the idea is that instead of having 2 parts of your code do identical things, we can create functions, and then call those functions |
| 01:18.15 | JademusSreg | (I use galaxy script in my examples because I use galaxy script in maps, but GUI can do pretty nearly everything galaxy code can, so if you can grasp the principles involved, you can employ them in your GUI code.) |
| 01:18.25 | Nytemare3701 | I get that Jademus. I was saying that what you wrote out is illegible to me. I understand the gist of what you are saying "condense shit down by looping repetitive areas and using parameters to alter as needed" |
| 01:18.48 | Nytemare3701 | I'm saying that I don't have a firm enough grasp on galaxy's functions to do that. |
| 01:19.06 | ArcanePariah | Analogy time! :D |
| 01:19.08 | Nytemare3701 | I'm settling for functional code at the moment, since usable progress motivates me more than efficiency. |
| 01:19.09 | JademusSreg | GUI has Custom Function/Action Definitions. |
| 01:19.16 | JademusSreg | *functioning |
| 01:20.15 | A1win | youl'll be much out of luck getting help for such monstrous code, though |
| 01:20.18 | ArcanePariah | Nytemare3701, imagine you going shopping. Usually you have a list and you go around and get stuff. |
| 01:20.30 | ArcanePariah | Usually, we get different stuff from different stores |
| 01:20.36 | ArcanePariah | Clothes, groceries, etc. |
| 01:20.58 | Nytemare3701 | Pariah, you don't need to continue that analogy. |
| 01:21.03 | ArcanePariah | Ok |
| 01:21.13 | Nytemare3701 | I understand exactly what he means, I just don't know how to DO THAT in galaxy. |
| 01:21.30 | ArcanePariah | Ok, right click in pane where functions are defines |
| 01:21.31 | JademusSreg | Don't need to do it galaxy scriptl do it in GUI. |
| 01:21.32 | Nytemare3701 | I'm looking at the custom actions/events thing right now. It's |
| 01:21.43 | ArcanePariah | and create new trigger/action/function :D |
| 01:21.45 | Nytemare3701 | Jademus, I meant galaxy editor. |
| 01:21.47 | Nytemare3701 | sorry |
| 01:21.51 | Nytemare3701 | the GUI |
| 01:21.52 | JademusSreg | Haha. =D |
| 01:22.37 | Nytemare3701 | Ok, so we've reached an understanding then. I need a tutorial on creating action definitions, preferably using the current script |
| 01:23.19 | A1win | noo how can I sleep now when the story about groceries and clothes was never finished |
| 01:23.47 | Nytemare3701 | (The only thing that changes in my script on each iteration is the facing and offset directions) |
| 01:23.59 | Nytemare3701 | So if everything else can be automated, that would save a huge amount of hassle. |
| 01:24.10 | A1win | was there a dragon, was there a wicked witch |
| 01:25.16 | JademusSreg | is reminded of the RPG-themed Kirby boss battle. |
| 01:27.12 | ArcanePariah | Well, you could buy a witch candy, and a dragon shirt |
| 01:29.47 | A1win | I might have consumed too much caffeine today |
| 01:30.19 | ArcanePariah | might? |
| 01:31.30 | A1win | not sure, this coild be due to my recently corrected sleep schedule too >.> |
| 01:31.42 | A1win | could even |
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| 01:32.36 | A1win | my android doesn't like it when I finger the wrong buttons |
| 01:33.29 | A1win | I wonder if they thought about this when naming the OS |
| 01:36.44 | Nytemare3701 | I have successfully created a custom action to handle the block of excavation code. Thank you. |
| 01:47.12 | Nytemare3701 | Ok, now it's just messing with me. It can turn in any direction except downward, and the script is using the actions as you advised. |
| 01:48.15 | Nytemare3701 | I'll keep compressing it. I haven't handled the conditions yet. |
| 01:58.56 | Nytemare3701 | http://pastebin.com/46sF71BE |
| 01:59.25 | Nytemare3701 | Current version. I haven't figured out how to handle the conditions though. |
| 02:01.23 | JademusSreg | Vital question: what is the purpose? What problem does this code intend to solve? Necessary to understand the approach selected. |
| 02:02.28 | Nytemare3701 | It generates a terrain deformer along its path, moving in configurable directions. The script runs all over the map, generating corridors with pathing blockers included. |
| 02:02.38 | Nytemare3701 | In essence, a randomized dungeon crawl. |
| 02:03.38 | JademusSreg | Sounds rather like a maze algorithm. |
| 02:03.41 | Nytemare3701 | The random roll approach was used to make it easy to change the generation constraints (how often it turns, etc) |
| 02:03.43 | Nytemare3701 | right. |
| 02:07.40 | Nytemare3701 | Offtopic: short of covering the map in pathing blockers and then removing them via trigger later, is there a way to force an area to be valid pathing via trigger? |
| 02:11.44 | A1win | I believe only wih the use of unit footprints |
| 02:11.56 | A1win | with |
| 02:11.57 | JademusSreg | ^ |
| 02:14.14 | A1win | mmh I need better visuals for my speed boost ability |
| 02:15.15 | A1win | how is the templar move effect done? |
| 02:16.23 | Nytemare3701 | I believe it's the "High Templar Shadow" actor |
| 02:17.10 | A1win | some kind of a model attachment? |
| 02:17.27 | DeadZergling | I do know there is a tutorial on sc2mapster to make that effect for any unit |
| 02:17.48 | A1win | hmm got to take a look |
| 02:18.34 | Nytemare3701 | It appears to be a model of its own, with tinting and a timer for how long it persists. |
| 02:19.01 | Bounty | I swear to god |
| 02:19.12 | Bounty | Watching the State of the Union is so entertaining for all the wrong reasons lol |
| 02:20.32 | Nytemare3701 | Alwin: I just checked by scaling up the model. It is indeed a the High Templar Shadow actor, and it just follows the templar around on a .04 second delay. |
| 02:20.57 | Nytemare3701 | I currently have a templar running around with a massive ghostly templar effect following him. |
| 02:21.28 | Nytemare3701 | actually fairly visually impressive. I'd use it for a fear spell. |
| 02:23.36 | DeadZergling | state of the union, that's the ice cube one right? |
| 02:24.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 03:00.19 | Muhammad_Ahli | JademusSreg, what is your opinion on balance whiners. |
| 03:09.19 | JademusSreg | Silly, often biased; achieving balance is a metastatic high-wire act, and each incremental change toward that purpose needs data. Doesn't matter what players say, but rather how they play. |
| 03:10.27 | DeadZergling | isn't all bad, but I hate nerfs that come from it. So much better to tip the scale more for others and leave the OP shit alone. |
| 03:31.08 | Bounty | How bout dat State of the Union |
| 03:31.14 | Bounty | >.< |
| 03:31.24 | Bounty | The Union is strong my friends! |
| 03:32.36 | Bounty | Anyways, you there JademusSreg? |
| 03:32.53 | Bounty | You unreliable loading screen developing bastard |
| 03:32.55 | Bounty | :) |
| 03:41.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:07.52 | Bounty | You still here? |
| 04:07.58 | Bounty | lol |
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| 05:03.51 | asciame1 | Trying to make an ability thats a wall of fire, any idea on How to just have the search area extend in a straight line, as opposed to a circle? Just want the damage to occur if they walk through the wall. Got everything else working just not sure on this piece |
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| 05:09.58 | JademusSreg | Straight line, no width, atc 0. |
| 05:10.00 | JademusSreg | *arc 0 |
| 05:10.17 | asciame1 | Yah just figured it out by accident lol |
| 05:12.33 | asciame1 | Second question though, as my strong suit isn't actors. Is there a way to change its facing/spawn to be the direction of my caster? As in I don't want the wall to be crooked, but rather adjust to my facing. I'm guessing there's probably something to attach to the center of my unit |
| 05:13.09 | asciame1 | For instance, using a skewed wall of fire model, it |
| 05:13.26 | JademusSreg | Wall of fire model is dreadful, haha. |
| 05:13.38 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Site ops can adjust that. |
| 05:14.16 | asciame1 | yeah its so huge |
| 05:14.22 | asciame1 | i was going to use impact flames or something instead |
| 05:14.28 | asciame1 | I can't find a good flame actor |
| 05:16.05 | JademusSreg | In swarm campaign, Yagdra has some good one. |
| 05:21.46 | asciame1 | Ah, don't think i included swarm campaign in this test map |
| 05:34.51 | asciame1 | So for these site ops, would this be as simple as adjust the Host Site Operations on my model actor, or will I have to create a new site ops actor |
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| 05:41.37 | JademusSreg | Depends on how you're creating the models, but host site ops ought to work. |
| 05:42.09 | ArcanePariah | Actor stuff ehh? |
| 05:42.13 | ArcanePariah | Oh, and Yoink |
| 05:43.06 | asciame1 | models just being created when my persistent that's doing the search is created |
| 05:43.25 | A1win | my sleep has abandoned me once again |
| 05:43.57 | ArcanePariah | Welcome back to the land of the consciouse A1win |
| 05:44.06 | ArcanePariah | Was getting lonely |
| 05:47.22 | asciame1 | the list of the SOp from the hosting host site ops is pretty overwhelming lol |
| 05:48.20 | ArcanePariah | So JademusSreg, what new with you? Any progress on the your concept? |
| 05:50.07 | asciame1 | Wait is it attachcenter that would get me what I want? |
| 05:50.27 | JademusSreg | Yep. Been prototyping the squad mechanic. |
| 05:53.35 | JademusSreg | Currently less than optimal. A main unit is necessary for it to work, however finding simple, elegant ways to prevent it from being focused down, haven't yet determined one. |
| 05:56.10 | asciame1 | probs doing something wrong since adding something to host sit ops just breaks the actor |
| 05:56.14 | ArcanePariah | Sugguestion: Arm magazine ability with external ammo units. Behavior on primary unit, invulnerable. Sqaud mate units use conjoined behavior, primary unit becomes vuln once squad units are dead (validator of magazine unit count) |
| 05:56.23 | JademusSreg | Arc, already did. |
| 05:56.24 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 05:56.46 | ArcanePariah | Damm lol, ninja. What was your solution? |
| 05:57.00 | ArcanePariah | Or is my sugguestion your current implementation? |
| 05:57.22 | JademusSreg | The point of contention is whether the main unit is a unit in the squad or a representation of the squad, each clumsy in their own way. |
| 05:57.35 | JademusSreg | Your suggestion is my current implementation, yes. |
| 05:57.56 | ArcanePariah | Main unit can be invulnerable and invisible, a meta unit of sorts |
| 05:58.07 | ArcanePariah | Basically apply the Actor paradigm to units |
| 06:00.11 | ArcanePariah | Meta unit can serve as a central dispatch for all units within a squad, for both data and trigger purposes |
| 06:00.15 | JademusSreg | Yes, it could, but that's the contention. It works, but at the expense of being a bit more abstract. |
| 06:00.33 | ArcanePariah | True, but the very idea of a sqaud is an abstraction already |
| 06:00.54 | ArcanePariah | As is all elements of any grouping or hierarchial structure |
| 06:00.54 | JademusSreg | I expect ultimately that will be what I choose, since the alternative involves far more complexity. |
| 06:01.51 | ArcanePariah | Also, from my point of view, the meta units are a far more efficient solution, since they make for a constant factor of sorts, for assesing values of forces, among other things |
| 06:02.49 | ArcanePariah | I would say the meta units basically serve as an abstraction API between the actual physical units, and the game logic |
| 06:03.15 | ArcanePariah | It would certainly permit a more modular development |
| 06:04.17 | ArcanePariah | Oh and do feel free to interrupt my ramblings, since I am merely observing and analyzing the pros to that approach, since I assume you will do your own assesment and arrive at a solution most suited to you |
| 06:04.38 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 06:05.49 | ArcanePariah | IN any case, for the squads, do you intend to follow roughly the DoW approach of having each squad be uniquely upgradable? |
| 06:06.06 | ArcanePariah | Or do you prefer a less micro intensive approach |
| 06:06.23 | JademusSreg | A bit. Depends on which abilities they support, rather. |
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| 06:27.29 | asciame1 | stumped on this host site crap lol |
| 06:28.31 | JademusSreg | Site op. =D |
| 06:29.42 | asciame1 | yeah but which one lol |
| 06:30.29 | asciame1 | Went into Host SIte Ops, theres quite a few SOp that seem applicable |
| 06:30.56 | asciame1 | And the one I tried just broke the actor entirely lol |
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| 06:32.48 | JademusSreg | Need a siteop rotation. =D |
| 06:33.16 | asciame1 | ill muck around with that |
| 06:40.47 | G0A | WOW http://ethereum.org/ |
| 06:58.53 | asciame1 | i've gotten as far as setting up the rotation, but that does not seem to be working. Only additonal field i edited in the explicit rotation was the events, in which I made the model actor |
| 06:59.02 | asciame1 | may be missing something |
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| 07:31.56 | G0A | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r48hS5LaOLc |
| 07:36.29 | kingTD | strange porn u watching thre goa |
| 07:40.54 | G0A | :) |
| 07:50.04 | rtschutter | Hey guys |
| 07:50.23 | rtschutter | I was wondering if anyone could help me figure out how to do a 'line check' like Sandround has suggested here? |
| 07:50.24 | rtschutter | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/?page=6#p106 |
| 08:02.23 | Zolden | rtschutter mover -> motion phases field -> select motion phase -> arrival test type -> never |
| 08:02.31 | Zolden | i think it's what is meant |
| 08:02.42 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/G2260.jpg |
| 08:03.43 | Zolden | kingTD gj, jsut increase light's specularity |
| 08:04.55 | G0A | so, how do we put units on top of it?:) |
| 08:05.06 | G0A | *wall |
| 08:06.13 | rtschutter | Zolden that didn't seem to change anything |
| 08:08.23 | kingTD | its a mess to make that happen |
| 08:08.52 | kingTD | and it would be broken as now Gathering of workers |
| 08:09.19 | Zolden | rtschutter missile still collides with target? |
| 08:09.46 | Zolden | kingTD copy your light, play with it to make it look better, apply then with a trigger on init |
| 08:10.02 | Zolden | this way it won't be a mess, will be a pure fun with possibility to roll out |
| 08:10.09 | Zolden | *roll back |
| 08:10.34 | kingTD | i was talking about mess of making units walking on walls |
| 08:10.40 | Zolden | oh |
| 08:11.02 | Zolden | it will be messy |
| 08:11.07 | Zolden | just get rid of fucking walls |
| 08:12.59 | Zolden | kingTD realy, they consume lots of time to build, they don't help if you haven't army and not needed if you have, they are units and create lags, they even cut your base from resources |
| 08:13.12 | Zolden | forests + rocks -> thin passes |
| 08:13.25 | Zolden | build a cheaper castle on a thin pass, and u're protected |
| 08:13.41 | kingTD | well that consumption to build solving the size of the walls |
| 08:14.44 | Zolden | please, don't protect every your design decision, just honestly think about |
| 08:14.55 | rtschutter | Zolden I am not sure what you are asking |
| 08:15.05 | rtschutter | I am just trying to get my missile to go in the direction I pointed it |
| 08:15.23 | rtschutter | but if I use 500 range it goes off in a weird direction because the game changes the target point since it is off the map |
| 08:15.35 | rtschutter | Sandround suggested I use a line check to resolve this issue |
| 08:15.42 | rtschutter | but I do not understand how to implement one |
| 08:15.51 | Zolden | for me it was "fuck you" to make scalable shield on base, and now I like it, becuase I honestly considered this possibility, witghout creator's self-conceit |
| 08:16.51 | Zolden | rtschutter you said 500 range ruins it. So, you need little range to be within map area. But you need then the missile to keep moving after meeting the target. Someone suggested you to set never to make it happen |
| 08:17.08 | kingTD | Zolden well its vital and cheap blocking unit. |
| 08:17.20 | kingTD | there is nothing have to be much said about it |
| 08:17.52 | rtschutter | I cannot have the range within the map area or the missile will not continue indefinitely |
| 08:17.54 | Zolden | yea, castle with walls is better then without |
| 08:18.20 | rtschutter | oh hmm |
| 08:18.24 | Zolden | rtschutter it can ignore target and keep moving, i thought that "never" value does it |
| 08:18.25 | rtschutter | I see what you are saying now |
| 08:18.26 | rtschutter | let me try it |
| 08:19.04 | Zolden | kingTD *than |
| 08:19.55 | kingTD | image this wall unit as any other wall that just tries to block shit like in china or UK built ones |
| 08:20.11 | rtschutter | unfortunately |
| 08:20.18 | rtschutter | this does not make the missile continue to travel |
| 08:20.22 | rtschutter | it just makes it not be destroyed |
| 08:20.29 | rtschutter | it just sits in place once it reaches the range |
| 08:20.53 | kingTD | if i remmember orrectly the walls block vission too |
| 08:22.28 | A1win | woo made UI layout for my achievements... using trigger GUI *pukes* |
| 08:23.18 | A1win | now all I need is the logic... |
| 08:23.26 | A1win | and the content... |
| 08:24.05 | turtles1 | How do you usually do it? with templates or in text editor? |
| 08:24.35 | A1win | with triggers, but I should use templates |
| 08:24.44 | A1win | but... but, argh |
| 08:25.03 | A1win | the most boring part of mapmaking ;p |
| 08:26.13 | turtles1 | making GUIs? definitely. currently on week 2 of creating UIs |
| 08:26.21 | A1win | mm |
| 08:26.38 | A1win | well, took me an hour to make this achievement UI, but it felt like half a day |
| 08:26.43 | Zolden | rtschutter then the mover needs another change to keep moving. I'm not sure again, but try to use "ballistic" driver with gravity == 0 |
| 08:26.51 | A1win | *achievement UI layout (logic and content missing) |
| 08:27.06 | turtles1 | although I wrote libraries which already handle a lot of the tedious/error prone stuff |
| 08:27.14 | turtles1 | so it's not THAT bad |
| 08:27.18 | A1win | hehe |
| 08:29.03 | Zolden | kingTD another thing: wins don't help to win, they are jsut for noobs to derp-derp |
| 08:29.14 | Zolden | *walls don't help to win |
| 08:29.49 | kingTD | well u havent used them to even think about it, the uses |
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| 08:39.20 | Zolden | yea, i just raped all who had nothing to do except building walls |
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| 09:10.15 | Bommes | good morning ppl |
| 09:10.27 | Bommes | rtschutter, you still need help with that projectile thing? |
| 09:10.37 | rtschutter | yeah |
| 09:11.27 | Bommes | you are trying to use the fireball from kueken's tutorial right now? |
| 09:11.28 | rtschutter | I just want a projectile that keeps going until it either hits something, or goes off the map, but also goes in the direction you fired it |
| 09:11.31 | rtschutter | yeah |
| 09:11.51 | Bommes | what does it do right now? |
| 09:11.58 | Bommes | since there seem to be problems |
| 09:12.16 | rtschutter | it goes in a slightly different direction than you aim |
| 09:12.29 | rtschutter | because the range is set to 500 and if the target point is off the map |
| 09:12.34 | rtschutter | I guess the game tries to retarget it |
| 09:12.38 | rtschutter | which makes it aim like shit |
| 09:12.52 | Bommes | ah |
| 09:13.10 | rtschutter | and the map I need is too big to keep the range small enough for it to not matter |
| 09:13.22 | Bommes | I see :) Hmm |
| 09:13.49 | Zolden | rtschutter btw, you can calculate the point of intersection between your line and map border, and launch the missile right there |
| 09:13.53 | Bommes | Is the mover you use complicated? |
| 09:14.07 | Bommes | Otherwise I would try to change the mover for what you are doing |
| 09:14.17 | rtschutter | I have no idea if it is complicated...all movers seem complicated to me |
| 09:14.20 | Bommes | to arrival type "Never" and ballistic |
| 09:14.25 | rtschutter | Zolden that is what Sandround is suggesting |
| 09:14.34 | rtschutter | but I have no idea how to do that |
| 09:14.47 | Bommes | for your purpose everything that is something other than traveling in a straight line is complicated |
| 09:14.48 | turtles1 | you want help with the maths of figuring out that point? |
| 09:14.54 | Zolden | rtschutter cool, then jsut find the formula that returns the coordinates of intersection of two lines |
| 09:16.06 | rtschutter | bommes but doesn't the ballistic travel at an arc? |
| 09:16.21 | turtles1 | to expand from what Zolden said. Perform that calculation on all 4 map boundaries |
| 09:16.24 | rtschutter | zolden/turtles I could probably figure out the math but is this something I can do in data? |
| 09:16.38 | rtschutter | I would prefer to avoid a trigger solution |
| 09:16.42 | turtles1 | then take the point with smallest positive distance to that point |
| 09:16.58 | rtschutter | it seems like there should be a way to do this in data |
| 09:17.05 | rtschutter | I came pretty close with the 'throw' driver type |
| 09:17.17 | Bommes | yeah maybe throw works |
| 09:17.23 | Bommes | have you set arrival to never? |
| 09:17.25 | rtschutter | the problem with throw |
| 09:17.32 | rtschutter | is that it 'bounces' when it hits its range |
| 09:17.38 | Zolden | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line-line_intersection |
| 09:17.53 | turtles1 | no idea what the limits of data are. but that is the maths of what you need to do. If you can't get map boundaries in data I'm sure you could hard code them |
| 09:19.01 | rtschutter | ballistic is really weird bommes |
| 09:19.16 | rtschutter | it doesnt even move |
| 09:19.42 | Zolden | rtschutter ballistic will probably travel after it reaches the target, adn it's easy, jsut change driver to ballistic, and make sure gravity is 0 |
| 09:20.01 | Zolden | and speed is not 0 |
| 09:20.02 | Bommes | mkay ^^ |
| 09:20.28 | rtschutter | gravity 0 |
| 09:20.29 | rtschutter | speed 20 |
| 09:20.33 | rtschutter | it doesnt move |
| 09:20.59 | Zolden | try gravity 1 |
| 09:21.39 | Zolden | if it doesn't move, something may be changed in the actual actor, so jsut create a new mover and try it |
| 09:21.47 | Zolden | *mover |
| 09:22.19 | Bommes | you said you set the range to 500, so you set the persistent offset to 0, -500, 0 as well? |
| 09:22.37 | Bommes | so you are not actually clicking off boundaries, right? |
| 09:22.52 | rtschutter | the range for the ability is actually 15 |
| 09:23.01 | rtschutter | the persistent is -500 |
| 09:23.04 | Bommes | alright |
| 09:23.20 | rtschutter | nothing I do seems to get the ballistic to move |
| 09:23.34 | rtschutter | it just rotates in place |
| 09:23.44 | rtschutter | and then moves like ...1 grid space in 20 seconds |
| 09:24.21 | Zolden | rtschutter u sure you're having speed > 0 and not max speed |
| 09:24.40 | rtschutter | wait wtf |
| 09:25.15 | rtschutter | okay now its traveling |
| 09:25.24 | rtschutter | why do I only have to set max speed for the guided type then? |
| 09:26.05 | rtschutter | it does make my actor do a weird rotation while it is in the air too |
| 09:26.56 | Bommes | can you upload the map? I wanna experiment a little |
| 09:27.52 | rtschutter | ugh ballistic |
| 09:28.02 | rtschutter | its a map/mod combo |
| 09:28.11 | Bommes | ah k |
| 09:29.42 | rtschutter | I can still send it if you want |
| 09:29.53 | rtschutter | but you would have to setup the map as your default test map |
| 09:30.58 | Zolden | Bommes jsut create a mover, set it ballistic, set gravity and speed, and here you go |
| 09:31.15 | rtschutter | ballistic stops |
| 09:31.22 | rtschutter | after it reaches the offet |
| 09:31.24 | rtschutter | offset |
| 09:31.29 | rtschutter | and if you set the offset to 500 |
| 09:31.34 | rtschutter | it does the same thing as guided |
| 09:31.58 | Bommes | hmm |
| 09:32.09 | Zolden | ok, then find blizzard actor tutorial and check waht fields do, maybe one of them will give you the idea |
| 09:32.09 | Bommes | I think you just can't set the offset out of boundaries |
| 09:32.26 | Zolden | *mover tutorial |
| 09:32.31 | Zolden | search on bnet forum for mover guide or something |
| 09:32.35 | Bommes | I just tried it and it doesn't even fire it at an offset, it fires it to the corners of the map I think? |
| 09:32.43 | Bommes | always to the nearest corner |
| 09:32.51 | Bommes | I guess that are some kind of fallback points or something |
| 09:33.01 | rtschutter | this should literally be |
| 09:33.05 | rtschutter | the foundation for skillshot weapons |
| 09:33.14 | rtschutter | it should be the simplest fucking implementation of a projectile weapon possible |
| 09:33.53 | rtschutter | the closest I have come is throw |
| 09:34.00 | rtschutter | but throw does this little bounce thing |
| 09:34.06 | Bommes | I'll try throw |
| 09:34.10 | rtschutter | and then goes in a slightly different direction after it does the bounce |
| 09:37.42 | rtschutter | ohhh shit |
| 09:37.45 | rtschutter | may have cracked itr |
| 09:38.08 | rtschutter | nevermind |
| 09:38.09 | rtschutter | FUCK |
| 09:40.50 | Bommes | what did you have to change? |
| 09:41.28 | rtschutter | nothing it didn't work |
| 09:50.28 | rtschutter | ah well |
| 09:50.29 | rtschutter | 2am |
| 09:50.34 | rtschutter | guess I will have to work on it more tomorrow |
| 09:50.38 | rtschutter | cya guys thanks for your help |
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| 10:58.01 | kingTD | is it possible if behavior is applied to change persitent effect for the unit that buff is applied to? |
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| 11:47.27 | G0A | Zolden : http://ethereum.org/ |
| 11:53.00 | Zolden | kingTD do you mean the existing peristent, or the one that will be created after the buff was appluied? |
| 11:53.22 | Zolden | G0A it's too complex to understand the consequences |
| 11:53.27 | Zolden | but I like the idea |
| 11:54.10 | kingTD | will be apllied, but that persitent isnt linked to buff. buff only to change property not to make effect from the buff |
| 11:54.11 | G0A | yeah |
| 11:55.16 | Zolden | who can guess what is this? http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/merleblancdb/67738234/598515/598515_original.jpg |
| 11:56.38 | Zolden | kingTD just have a validator like persistent 1 [validator: unit doesn't have the buff], persistent 2 [validator: unit has the buff] |
| 11:56.47 | Zolden | create both within a set |
| 11:56.51 | Zolden | so, only one will be created |
| 11:57.22 | kingTD | yeah 3 more persistent incoming |
| 12:24.33 | G0A | Zolden wtf is that |
| 12:28.10 | kingTD | G0A the questions arent answered this way... |
| 12:28.21 | kingTD | Age of empires archery! http://snag.gy/zFb1H.jpg |
| 12:47.41 | G0A | Zolden it is Hitler's bone? |
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| 12:54.42 | G0A | hmm this looks nice: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTEIgo4S1CQ |
| 13:02.13 | Zolden | G0A you can guess |
| 13:02.18 | Zolden | it's not that hard |
| 13:09.13 | kingTD | yeah he is not hard enough now |
| 13:30.08 | G0A | picture of this? http://www.technologyreview.com/view/523956/first-tests-of-prototype-organic-wires-grown-from-seedlings/ |
| 13:32.53 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/zLvgx.jpg |
| 13:34.16 | Zolden | G0A much simpler |
| 13:36.28 | G0A | icecream |
| 13:37.40 | Zolden | simple enough, but wrong |
| 13:38.36 | Zolden | if i tell you you will be pity of not being able to guess |
| 13:38.41 | Zolden | so, i won't |
| 13:38.48 | Zolden | and one day you will get it |
| 13:39.56 | G0A | ok, so fuck you:) |
| 13:40.38 | Zolden | ok, look at it for the last time, and imagine, what could it be |
| 13:40.51 | Zolden | kingTD and you |
| 13:42.12 | G0A | hair |
| 13:42.15 | G0A | colored hair |
| 13:42.36 | G0A | cut infected colored hair |
| 13:42.44 | kingTD | frozen berry jogurt |
| 13:46.36 | Zolden | G0A close |
| 13:46.39 | Zolden | kingTD far |
| 13:46.49 | kingTD | ;( |
| 13:46.49 | Zolden | it's a tooth brush stem |
| 13:47.23 | kingTD | some strange porno right there! |
| 13:48.22 | G0A | fucking beast deck |
| 13:49.14 | G0A | yeah |
| 13:54.39 | G0A | fucking mage |
| 13:54.51 | G0A | killed me under 6th turn |
| 13:55.29 | G0A | and he used up all his cards under that time |
| 13:55.39 | G0A | in hand* |
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| 15:55.00 | turtles2 | What do you guys use to make demo vids? I currently have the free version of camstudio installed and I can't make my videos look not shit. |
| 15:55.25 | turtles2 | Pretty sure my computer can take it because it only margianally slows down when recording |
| 15:59.19 | Bommes | Fraps |
| 16:01.23 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ej6R7YEGmO0 |
| 16:01.54 | kingTD | bandicam have tested it works quite well |
| 16:21.36 | G0A | really.... Zombies |
| 16:22.59 | kingTD | :D |
| 16:30.27 | G0A | www.buildwithchrome.com rofl |
| 16:31.08 | G0A | I have to build a huge dick there |
| 16:33.50 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/TXjJS.jpg |
| 16:35.33 | Zolden | kingTD waht if you make something more complex instead of plain roof? |
| 16:35.53 | Zolden | wow buildings are to be viewved from sides, so they dont' have detailed roofs |
| 16:35.58 | Zolden | in sc2 we only see the roofs |
| 16:35.59 | kingTD | ohh yeah, forgot to add shit |
| 16:36.06 | Zolden | ADD SHIT, YEAH!!! |
| 16:37.22 | kingTD | in wow they even have some shit added on roofs too |
| 16:50.08 | Dustin | Now that you can fly everywhere im sure roof detailed skyrocketed compared to vanilla wow |
| 16:57.49 | kingTD | :D |
| 17:12.42 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/VFc87.jpg |
| 17:14.04 | Zolden | nice |
| 17:14.07 | Zolden | more shit! |
| 17:14.10 | Zolden | add a chimney |
| 17:14.19 | Zolden | add a wind cock |
| 17:14.33 | Zolden | add a ladder |
| 17:17.05 | Zolden | add a "roof repair" sign |
| 17:17.20 | Zolden | add bird shit |
| 17:38.44 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/VFNsy.jpg |
| 17:42.21 | Zolden | boob touchin and poop cake in new american dad episode |
| 17:42.51 | Zolden | kingTD more shit maybe? |
| 18:22.58 | kingTD | someday will add like wheat, water pot, mb caravan stuff. for now it competes with http://snag.gy/6Kl2y.jpg |
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| 18:33.07 | Ahli | EU server is dieing :S |
| 18:33.18 | Ahli | dying? I think it was dying |
| 18:51.40 | kingTD | it is dying |
| 18:52.02 | kingTD | or it does? |
| 18:52.02 | Ahli | it's dead |
| 18:52.23 | Ahli | can't get on EU for the last 20 minutes |
| 18:52.45 | Ahli | but I've had time to compare the remastered and the old sc1 music |
| 18:53.27 | kingTD | :D |
| 18:53.34 | Ahli | remastered sounds more fleshed out, but it's not exactly how we all remember it :D but if you compare the tracks, you would pick the remastered ones over the old ones |
| 18:55.30 | Ahli | so, actually there would be a mapnight with Yermans starting in 5 minutes, but EU is down... =/ looks like changing server to US |
| 18:57.14 | kingTD | Yermans? hmm okay |
| 19:00.59 | kingTD | Ohhhh... WoW had the wheat textures.. good |
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| 19:11.02 | Zandose | hello |
| 19:11.52 | Zolden | kingTD "had"? so you took it from it and it doesn't have anymore? what if I want wheat texture too? should I take it from you then? |
| 19:14.09 | kingTD | had to remembering the time when i was trying to get texture of wheat and was making it with the mouse :s |
| 19:14.15 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/4xWS2.jpg |
| 19:15.15 | G0A | how about adding building splats? |
| 19:15.26 | Zolden | dude, walls got much better |
| 19:15.38 | Zolden | increase specs! |
| 19:20.19 | kingTD | splats for buildings idk if any time soon will come and depends on what u image u would expect as those splats. black shadow like sc2 buildings have or something like in WC3 that adds rubble shit |
| 19:20.35 | kingTD | increasing speculars isnt priority for me |
| 19:21.22 | kingTD | the lighting is set up that way the specular effect would be much noticed.. or would be just akward to look at those shinny nigger |
| 19:21.27 | kingTD | like those in MnM |
| 19:23.43 | Zolden | :) |
| 19:23.49 | Zolden | GO SPEC!!! |
| 19:24.07 | Zolden | just make realy smooth, barely noticable shadows around the buildings |
| 19:24.14 | Zolden | it will make it look more natural |
| 19:25.42 | kingTD | well the other thing how to make that splat texture? |
| 19:28.32 | Zolden | diffuse -> black, mask -> one of glow textures with radial gradient |
| 19:28.44 | Zolden | blend mode -> blend |
| 19:29.34 | Zolden | mask multiplier in the layer as big so the shadow is barely noticing |
| 19:29.45 | Zolden | or |
| 19:29.49 | Zolden | even better |
| 19:30.04 | Zolden | make diffuse color - the same color as building walls |
| 19:30.32 | Zolden | so it will fit the rule of visusal art - spots of reflected light opposing the lighened objects |
| 19:34.48 | Zandose | does a pathing blocker need to be a unit with a footprint? |
| 19:38.31 | Zolden | preplaced one can be actor or jsut paint pathing stuff |
| 19:38.40 | Zolden | but if you want to do it on run, use units |
| 19:38.44 | Zandose | not pre-placed. triggers |
| 19:39.10 | Zolden | since pathing functions doesn't work |
| 19:39.17 | Zolden | (which is gay) |
| 19:39.37 | Zandose | i just want to block off the sides of a path so a unit cant across it |
| 19:43.45 | Zandose | so what can i use as a pathing blocker that i can creating in-game using triggers? |
| 19:46.24 | Zandose | hmm |
| 19:46.52 | Zandose | so units w/o movement and a collision radius can be used instead of pathing blockers? |
| 19:55.58 | kingTD | heh 7 models left to make edit |
| 20:05.18 | JademusSreg | Hamscaffold. |
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| 20:47.18 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/y0AVx.jpg |
| 20:48.18 | Zolden | new tower? |
| 20:48.36 | DeadZergling | Those towers are obviously made by below average asian males |
| 20:48.39 | Zolden | add a flag in the center of the cone roof |
| 20:48.42 | DeadZergling | not tall enough |
| 20:48.56 | Zolden | DeadZergling it's vs hobbits |
| 20:49.13 | DeadZergling | I don't care, towers are supposed to look line penises |
| 20:49.17 | DeadZergling | *like |
| 20:49.36 | DeadZergling | And those are really short in contrast to their width |
| 20:49.49 | Zolden | towers suppoed to like to look at penises |
| 20:50.03 | Zolden | i'd agree |
| 20:50.10 | Zolden | twod, check ron towers |
| 20:50.16 | Zolden | they are high and beautiful |
| 20:52.57 | kingTD | and they block vission |
| 20:52.59 | kingTD | vision |
| 20:54.15 | DeadZergling | well it could work if you called them Below Average Towers or Limp Towers |
| 21:05.00 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/ulaZ6.jpg |
| 21:08.20 | kingTD | So EU really doesnt give love isnt it? |
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| 21:29.27 | Nytemare3701 | Morning Mapsters! |
| 21:29.37 | Nytemare3701 | ...afternoon* |
| 21:30.56 | Nytemare3701 | I've got a puzzler for you. I have a custom action being called many times. One instance of it always refuses to call, no matter where it is placed in the loop. |
| 21:31.06 | kingTD | http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view/418787/train-wreck-o.gif |
| 21:31.19 | Nytemare3701 | They are all identical save the parameter being changed (the facing of a unit) |
| 21:33.40 | Nytemare3701 | Changing the parameter doesn't seem to help either, oddly enough. |
| 21:34.59 | Nytemare3701 | JademusSreg: This is the script I showed you yesterday. It's abstracted now. |
| 21:35.59 | JademusSreg | Provide a walkthrough of the code; often bugs are a result how one conceptualizes the problem/solution. Articulating how the code works forces one to think through the issue, perhaps catching errors in one's reasoning. |
| 21:36.22 | Zolden | G0A just watched that last rick an morty episode, can't udnerstand is it getting better every time, or it's jsut always that good, but every time i can't believe it's that good and expect less |
| 21:36.40 | G0A | :) |
| 21:37.14 | Nytemare3701 | The area of the code is just "If the unit is facing downward and random roll is <=95, move downward" |
| 21:37.18 | G0A | I was like hmm thats was as good as the last one and then noticed there is 3 minute left from the video:D |
| 21:37.35 | Nytemare3701 | I have 3 other instances of this same thing, one for each cardinal direction. |
| 21:37.40 | Nytemare3701 | and they all work except this one. |
| 21:37.46 | Zolden | kingTD new normals on the roof? |
| 21:37.50 | Nytemare3701 | they use the same action, since you had me use abstraction. |
| 21:38.08 | Nytemare3701 | The only change is the parameter, and changing the parameter to match one of the others ALSO breaks it. |
| 21:38.41 | Nytemare3701 | It's as if the editor won't let me call this action more than 3 times. |
| 21:38.51 | kingTD | Zolden its barracks textures |
| 21:47.16 | Bommes | EU still down? |
| 21:49.31 | JademusSreg | Nyt, all one need do is get a point at a polar offset. |
| 21:50.01 | Nytemare3701 | It's doing exactly that. |
| 21:50.39 | Nytemare3701 | The facing is a validator for which directions the script is allowed to turn the unit. |
| 21:51.16 | Nytemare3701 | let me go pastebin the action |
| 21:51.40 | Nytemare3701 | http://pastebin.com/Z27mdSJ4 |
| 21:52.11 | Nytemare3701 | ^This is what it calls any time it needs to go in a straight line. |
| 21:54.11 | JademusSreg | Remove excavator, set excavator unit array var to last created unit, which is a guide arrow. |
| 22:01.27 | Nytemare3701 | I'm getting confused. The array value for Excavator[Excavator] is the parameter being set by the script later (which is a for loop so I can add as many of these as I need) |
| 22:02.30 | Nytemare3701 | wait, I think I get it. |
| 22:03.02 | Nytemare3701 | aaand I lost it again. |
| 22:03.45 | Nytemare3701 | I have it set up to take an Integer parameter for the array, so it can go through a for loop. |
| 22:06.00 | Nytemare3701 | I'm going to work on another area of this for a while. Thank you JademusSreg. |
| 22:06.42 | JademusSreg | I'm saying the code in the paste removes a unit Excavator from the game, and sets Excavator[Excavator] = (Last created unit), which is Guide Arrow. |
| 22:07.15 | Nytemare3701 | Right. That's what I want. It removes the previous excavator, and sets the new unit as the new excavator. |
| 22:07.28 | JademusSreg | Which is a Guide arrow? |
| 22:07.31 | Nytemare3701 | Right. |
| 22:07.45 | JademusSreg | Not great naming convention. |
| 22:07.48 | Nytemare3701 | I have an actor event attached for terrain deformation. |
| 22:08.03 | Nytemare3701 | I'm just using the Guide Arrow unit since it shows facing clearly. |
| 22:08.07 | JademusSreg | Also, no point in destroying it when you can move it around. |
| 22:08.19 | JademusSreg | And now point in using the unit when you can create an actor and move it. |
| 22:08.23 | Nytemare3701 | There is, since the actor event is keyed to create |
| 22:08.24 | JademusSreg | *no point |
| 22:08.55 | Nytemare3701 | I haven't successfully managed to get terrain deformation to work when a unit is moved via trigger. |
| 22:09.15 | Nytemare3701 | It does work with creation though. |
| 22:09.41 | Nytemare3701 | If you know how to make that work though, it would save me a lot of effort. |
| 22:13.15 | Nytemare3701 | (I'm experimenting with the move event right now) |
| 22:13.25 | JademusSreg | I'd assume any message to set position or bearings would work. |
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| 22:25.11 | Nytemare3701 | Neither "Set Position" nor "Move" are set off by the move action. :-/ |
| 22:25.30 | Nytemare3701 | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:25.47 | Nytemare3701 | Event: Events +(SetPosition.GuideArrowUnit):():(Create) |
| 22:30.06 | Nytemare3701 | No-go on bearings or rotation either. |
| 22:49.08 | JademusSreg | Hilarious. |
| 22:49.23 | Nytemare3701 | ? |
| 22:51.22 | JademusSreg | I meant to use an actor-based approach, rathering than moving units. Also, that's not how actor events are used. =D |
| 22:52.17 | Nytemare3701 | All my knowledge of actor events is from Hati's live terrain deformation tutorial. |
| 22:52.46 | Nytemare3701 | I'm just trying to change the event to the unit being moved by a trigger. |
| 22:53.23 | Nytemare3701 | The actor being created is the terrain deformer |
| 22:53.56 | Nytemare3701 | It was working based on creation of the guide arrow, but now I can't find an event that triggers when it is moved. |
| 23:04.32 | rtschutter | I am still trying to resolve this projectile problem if anyone is interested in taking a crack at it |
| 23:04.40 | rtschutter | I put a video and test map in this thread |
| 23:04.45 | rtschutter | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/61908-creating-a-projectile-with-infinite-range/ |
| 23:04.56 | JademusSreg | Movers are your friend, rts. |
| 23:05.07 | JademusSreg | Nyt, reminds me of this: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/trigger-libraries/47003-tatatataterrain-generator/ |
| 23:05.38 | rtschutter | yeah I spent hours yesterday fucking around with moves |
| 23:05.43 | rtschutter | movers* |
| 23:05.47 | rtschutter | and it didn't really get me anywhere |
| 23:06.10 | JademusSreg | What was confusing about my demo? |
| 23:06.37 | JademusSreg | Hell, Blizz did it in WoL campaign, the Lost Viking minigame. |
| 23:06.40 | rtschutter | your demo had so much stuff going on I decided to follow Kueken's tutorial instead |
| 23:06.49 | rtschutter | since it was focused on what I was trying to do |
| 23:16.34 | rtschutter | also |
| 23:16.45 | rtschutter | your projectile appears to have a limited range anyways |
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| 23:55.30 | JademusSreg | Naw, that was deliberate. |
| 23:56.00 | JademusSreg | The firing rate was so high that allowing them to persist beyond a limited lifetime would have caused Very Bad Things. |
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