| 00:00.39 | JademusSreg | But yeah, strategies whose success is grossly disproportionate to investment and uninfluenced by the state of play is certainly a design issue. Though worrying about it now is a poor investment. =D |
| 00:05.49 | Ahli | my middle mouse button is broken :X |
| 00:06.32 | JademusSreg | Time to replace the mouse. Discard the middle one, and get a new mouse at the local pet store. |
| 00:07.34 | Ahli | mouse is 7 months old... 2nd replacement :S as long as I've a guarantee, I won't open and repair it... razer became really bad over the years, it seems... |
| 00:08.15 | JademusSreg | I mean, it's inevitable, eventually you'll be working on a spreadsheet or focused on an intense match and click too hard, hear the crack-pop of their fragile vertebrae, end up replacing them. |
| 00:09.27 | Ahli | I can hear the clicking sound, but the mouse doesn't respond... :S |
| 00:10.28 | Ahli | but it kind of seems random when it works and when it's not working... I should reinstall the driver... |
| 00:10.42 | Ahli | with their terrible program I don't want, but am forced to use |
| 00:11.09 | Ahli | brb |
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| 00:14.41 | Ahli | without a driver it works perfect... it's their sh*tty driver |
| 00:15.27 | ArcanePariah | Oh JademusSreg, how does one include an assets.txt as to then use it for external referencing in the UI XML? |
| 00:15.57 | ArcanePariah | Do I simply import it to the same relative path? |
| 00:16.22 | Ahli | put it into "Base.SC2Data\GameData\" |
| 00:16.29 | ArcanePariah | Ok |
| 00:16.32 | ArcanePariah | Thank you |
| 00:17.00 | Ahli | and then you can reference the things with "@blablabla"... "@@blablabla" results in _RaceID added to the ID |
| 00:17.15 | ArcanePariah | Mmhmm |
| 00:17.17 | Ahli | so @@worker results in worker_Terr for example |
| 00:17.44 | Ahli | that's how you can make race dependent images |
| 00:17.50 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 00:18.29 | ArcanePariah | Ofc, the issue being for anyone to actually add in another race, one would need to find every part of the default UI that has such references and make sure there is an entry for that |
| 00:18.50 | ArcanePariah | And it appears there is dozens if not hundreds of such references and constants |
| 00:19.11 | Ahli | well, yeah... that will be at least 20 per new race :D |
| 00:19.15 | ArcanePariah | So doable, but quite a lengthy task |
| 00:22.14 | Ahli | I hope this works... else I need to wait for them to find a fix in their driver before the mouse becomes fully functional again... :X |
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| 00:25.24 | MoonEater | hello? |
| 00:25.36 | ArcanePariah | Hello |
| 00:25.38 | Ahli | seems to work fine now... |
| 00:25.43 | ArcanePariah | We are alive |
| 00:27.03 | Ahli | we are live? :o |
| 00:27.21 | Ahli | oh alive... |
| 00:28.00 | ArcanePariah | Yes Ahli, you are live on a twitch stream, the entire world is watching, wonder what your next play in HS will be |
| 00:28.07 | ArcanePariah | :P |
| 00:29.20 | JademusSreg | Hah |
| 00:30.05 | Ahli | I'm 0 1 with mage in arena atm :S |
| 00:33.15 | Ahli | hmm, HotS speedrun in ~40 minutes maybe |
| 00:33.33 | ArcanePariah | Hmm??? |
| 00:33.51 | ArcanePariah | Speedrun Swarm campaign? |
| 00:33.58 | Ahli | http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda |
| 00:34.00 | Ahli | yes |
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| 00:58.55 | ArcanePariah | Ok, set effect question. If the minimum count is greater then the number of effects in the set, will it simply repeat the list until the count is met? |
| 01:00.32 | JademusSreg | As I recall, the field's tooltip (and those related) describe its usage fairly well. One assumes you've enabled random? |
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| 01:01.11 | JademusSreg | I'd expect it to have no effect without random. |
| 01:01.49 | ArcanePariah | No, for simplicity sake, instead of placing effect I want to repeat into the set an arbitrary number of times, I thought to just set max/min count to the number of times I want it repeated |
| 01:02.11 | JademusSreg | Hah, would be funny if it worked that way. |
| 01:02.22 | ArcanePariah | Welp, time to test it :D |
| 01:05.29 | Ahli | hots speedrun about to start |
| 01:07.26 | ArcanePariah | Welp, it does not, only applicable for limiting effects, and only really useful with random |
| 01:07.36 | ArcanePariah | A pity |
| 01:09.15 | ArcanePariah | Interesting, the editor auto adjusted min/max to the number of effects in the set |
| 01:09.34 | ArcanePariah | Errr nvm |
| 01:09.40 | ArcanePariah | just me seeing things :D |
| 01:19.01 | ArcanePariah | Hmm... how do Ability items work? |
| 01:19.20 | ArcanePariah | Does the item confer an ability to the carrier? |
| 01:19.56 | JademusSreg | Activate item, activates an ability. |
| 01:20.20 | JademusSreg | Well, not quite, but effectively. |
| 01:20.35 | JademusSreg | Best means by which to achieve dynamic ability composition per unit. |
| 01:20.47 | ArcanePariah | And how does this differ from effect target items? Does it only work if the using unit has the ability? |
| 01:21.24 | ArcanePariah | Or is it a means to make a effect target item draw its cost from the casting unit, and set the casting unit to be the caster as opposed to the item itself? |
| 01:21.29 | JademusSreg | Ah, I misunderstood. Hold on, preparing turkey burgers. |
| 01:21.49 | ArcanePariah | Sounds tasty |
| 01:29.46 | ArcanePariah | Welp, confirmed, item ability is a way to give a unit any ability |
| 01:29.56 | ArcanePariah | By placing the item and then using it from inventory |
| 01:33.16 | MoonEater | shitola |
| 01:49.06 | JademusSreg | (Makes sense. =D ) |
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| 02:37.32 | JademusSreg | Back. |
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| 02:40.51 | ArcanePariah | So design question, would it ever be sane/appropriate to put a trigger that runs on map init in a library? |
| 02:41.18 | ArcanePariah | Or would it be far more appropriate to have that trigger available, and just run it on map init in the application/map code |
| 02:41.40 | ArcanePariah | I'm leaning towards the latter |
| 02:42.22 | ArcanePariah | This pertains to code I want to run on all players, namely to force certain overrides (Display game timer, among others) |
| 02:56.01 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 02:56.33 | JademusSreg | Well, either way, it can be controlled by the user. |
| 02:56.44 | JademusSreg | It's a question of default. |
| 02:58.44 | JademusSreg | Should it run by default or should it run at the explicit instruction by the user? Is there any reason why one wouldn't want to run it on map init, or execute it multiple times within the same session? Why would the user employ the library if they didn't intend to run by default? |
| 03:00.06 | ArcanePariah | User in this context being the developer who uses the library, correct? |
| 03:00.11 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 03:01.26 | ArcanePariah | Well, if I were to generalize, I would say it should be run by the user since it is forcing certain aspects on the players, which may or may not be desired by someone other then myself, given the context of their map |
| 03:01.51 | JademusSreg | If that were the case, why would they use the library in the first place? |
| 03:03.15 | ArcanePariah | Well they wouldn't since like Blizzard, I'm developing a library of common code for my map, as to make it easier when I go to make actual content (missions/etc.) |
| 03:03.29 | ArcanePariah | Like, most of Blizzard libs for story are useless to most people |
| 03:03.57 | ArcanePariah | Arguably useless to all since some functions use restricted natives |
| 03:05.54 | ArcanePariah | On a tangent, what exactly are herd nodes, herds, and such? |
| 03:06.00 | ArcanePariah | Has anyone determined them? |
| 03:06.22 | JademusSreg | I'm aware. |
| 03:06.37 | ArcanePariah | There's actor references to them, actor events, its a field in the unit data type, and it has its own data type that seemingly just has a name |
| 03:06.39 | JademusSreg | Chatted with the devs about it, one of many things added in 1.5. |
| 03:07.33 | JademusSreg | Herds have a weighted pool of herd nodes which affect changes in the herd level. |
| 03:08.47 | ArcanePariah | Wait... are herds in this context a literal thing, such that one can induce visual/actor events based on the number of units in a given area close together and moving at a given speed? |
| 03:08.59 | ArcanePariah | Because that is the impression I'm getting |
| 03:09.10 | Ahli | lol that mission int he speedrun :D |
| 03:09.22 | Ahli | kerrigan OP :S |
| 03:09.56 | JademusSreg | The herd level can be checked by actor event stuff, effectively a mechanism to represent the density of a cluster of units, a "herd". |
| 03:10.00 | ArcanePariah | No kidding, give kerri the baneling ability nad all her nukes and watch her solo everything, key being finishing zerus missions asap to get her zerg form |
| 03:10.23 | ArcanePariah | Ok, so it is literally herd like effects for actors |
| 03:10.59 | ArcanePariah | Nice thing, allows more realistic environmental sounds in a more direct fashion |
| 03:11.15 | JademusSreg | So a bunch of Karakks or whatever running around might start a deep, rumbling sound loop. This is quite evident in the campaign. |
| 03:11.33 | JademusSreg | It's very fluffy, but could have actually useful applications. |
| 03:11.39 | ArcanePariah | Yes, it appears many objects were added in preparation for swarm |
| 03:11.56 | ArcanePariah | Yes, you could use it to do distance like alerts |
| 03:12.03 | JademusSreg | Added way back during 1.5, like most of the data used by HotS. |
| 03:12.06 | ArcanePariah | Hot/Cold style search game |
| 03:12.26 | ArcanePariah | Or radar beacons |
| 03:12.45 | ArcanePariah | Closer they are, more of them = faster sound/louder sound |
| 03:12.50 | ArcanePariah | or othersuch things |
| 03:13.28 | ArcanePariah | Ahh yes, I can now hear/see the relationship, very nice |
| 03:14.35 | ArcanePariah | Fascinating |
| 03:15.02 | ArcanePariah | Certainly is more effective then a host of Region Actors + Query Persistents |
| 03:22.29 | ArcanePariah | One thing you could do with it is reimplement the HL 2 Ep 2 part with Antlions and the railroad alarms |
| 03:23.19 | ArcanePariah | So... given what happend with 1.5, do you see the possiblity of 2.2 or therabouts being a similar massive rework of the editor in prep for LotV? |
| 03:23.38 | ArcanePariah | Because the impression i've gotten is 1.5 was a sweeping upgrade to the editor |
| 03:25.10 | JademusSreg | None of the same signs. |
| 03:27.19 | ArcanePariah | Guess we will have to see, though I think you may be right, it does seem Blizzard is focusing more on the backend (hiring server engineers, extension mods, clan upgrade, etc.) |
| 03:30.02 | ArcanePariah | brb |
| 03:30.11 | JademusSreg | Biggest changes will coincide with internal alpha and beta development of LotV. |
| 03:30.23 | JademusSreg | If history is any indication. |
| 03:33.39 | ArcanePariah | Back |
| 03:34.02 | ArcanePariah | Agreed, however that means we can expect them soonish, as in mid year |
| 03:34.48 | ArcanePariah | Swarm came out about 3 years after WoL |
| 03:35.15 | ArcanePariah | So LotV will probably take roughly as long, maybe shorter, but unlikely |
| 03:35.47 | ArcanePariah | The question is: does Blizzard have a manpower shortage atm? |
| 03:36.14 | JademusSreg | Depends on whose team is asking. |
| 03:36.15 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 03:36.19 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 03:36.19 | ArcanePariah | Their hiring page would seem to indicate they are short on people, with full sets of internships and open positions for virtually every team |
| 03:39.11 | ArcanePariah | What is Platform Services... is that basically the Desktop App and the galaxy platform they were mentioning perhaps? |
| 03:40.29 | ArcanePariah | So yeah, they got 170 job openings, about 1/5 in what they deem "critical" positions |
| 03:40.38 | motive | Hehe |
| 03:40.43 | motive | I work for my company's platform services team. :) |
| 03:40.53 | motive | It's basically anything that can be used as a service in your company. |
| 03:41.09 | motive | i.e. I do Email Platform Team, so anything e-mail goes through me. We run all the relays, handle all the feedback loops, abuse, etc. |
| 03:41.13 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, so basically inhouse development for your own stuff? |
| 03:41.29 | ArcanePariah | Interesting |
| 03:41.50 | ArcanePariah | How does platform services differ from IT? |
| 03:42.09 | motive | The IT you're thinking of sounds like Desktop Support to me. |
| 03:42.25 | motive | Platform Services isn't development though. |
| 03:42.55 | ArcanePariah | That's part of it, but IT for me is any person who supports the techincal infrastructures of a business, from servers, to email, to networking |
| 03:43.06 | motive | IT is too broad a word |
| 03:43.10 | ArcanePariah | Agreed |
| 03:43.14 | motive | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_as_a_service |
| 03:43.17 | motive | There you go :) |
| 03:43.29 | ArcanePariah | Too many diverse aspects to really encompass it meaningfully |
| 03:44.26 | ArcanePariah | Ahh kk, so Platform Services is the underlying architecture for others to create tools for their own projects |
| 03:45.04 | ArcanePariah | So people can just worry about making/using their own tools, without having to worry about networking/servers/etc. |
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| 04:28.22 | Zolden | ArcanePariah you know what |
| 04:28.52 | motive | ArcanePariah: Almost perfect, replace tools with projects in general |
| 04:29.57 | ArcanePariah | Zolden: What? |
| 04:30.42 | Zolden | I noticed "notd 2" map in the list of New maps, uploaded by "notd" user - is it you, dues, or a phoney? |
| 04:31.45 | ArcanePariah | It is us, our team bought an account and we are using it for shared upload, similar to how SCU does things |
| 04:32.16 | Zolden | ok |
| 04:35.54 | ArcanePariah | Currently our designer is working on the terrain |
| 04:36.06 | ArcanePariah | Whereas I'm working on weapons, and UI stuff |
| 04:37.09 | ArcanePariah | And I still love G0A review for M&M |
| 04:37.14 | ArcanePariah | just so much win |
| 04:39.45 | Zolden | yea, everybody scared and 5stars it |
| 04:40.05 | Zolden | world needs a strong hand to control it |
| 04:41.00 | ArcanePariah | Hehe |
| 04:47.01 | ArcanePariah | So yeah... apparently people missed the point that its a test map and an alpha nad not remotely done, and already getting reviews... are people really that stupid? |
| 04:48.55 | Zolden | if there's "alpha" on loading screen, they sometimes notice it |
| 04:49.25 | ArcanePariah | We don't even have that (loading screen is just default lol, it is just our terrain) |
| 04:50.21 | Zolden | JademusSreg has a comprehensive answer to "are people really that stupid?" |
| 04:51.10 | ArcanePariah | Welp... since it is up and present, any feedback on the terrain would be welcome |
| 04:55.44 | Zolden | any luck on persuading the modeller to turn into art tools? |
| 04:56.13 | ArcanePariah | I have not spoken with him recently, I will see about it next time I talk to him |
| 05:24.58 | Zolden | just casually play with your gun while talking |
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| 06:38.10 | JademusSreg | Backish. |
| 06:38.16 | ArcanePariah | Likewise |
| 06:38.25 | JademusSreg | Was thoroughly distracted while testing. |
| 06:38.44 | ArcanePariah | Sameish, Food + DotA |
| 06:38.55 | ArcanePariah | Though was working on NotD 2 Weapons |
| 06:39.06 | ArcanePariah | Going to be fun :D |
| 06:39.16 | ArcanePariah | Going to have quite a variety |
| 06:39.20 | JademusSreg | Defecation of the Appetizers. |
| 06:39.29 | ArcanePariah | ahahahah |
| 06:40.27 | ArcanePariah | a number of fun special weapons, like rail guns and plasma cannons. Should be interesting to see how badly people misuse them |
| 06:41.02 | ArcanePariah | Since said weapons will do full damage to allies. Railgun in particular will be great XD |
| 06:43.39 | ArcanePariah | So Jade, pretty easy to add circles, just a pair of Arc Actors, each filtered to the correct alliances. Only question I have is what model you would like used |
| 06:43.54 | ArcanePariah | For the arc actors |
| 06:44.00 | JademusSreg | Idea: 5v5 competitive team play between the Protectors and Prosecutors, Legal Defense of the Ancients? |
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| 06:44.28 | ArcanePariah | Bad game, because the end result is the spectators becoming broke :9 |
| 06:44.29 | ArcanePariah | :9 |
| 06:44.31 | ArcanePariah | :( |
| 06:45.05 | ArcanePariah | Can it have a result of the losers being shot? |
| 06:45.43 | JademusSreg | Of course the circles are easy. But making an efficient technical implementation that satisfies design criteria for visual readability, that's more interesting. =D |
| 06:46.00 | ArcanePariah | Well Arc actors are as efficient as it gets |
| 06:46.13 | ArcanePariah | and visual readability boils down to A) model and b) Colors |
| 06:46.23 | ArcanePariah | which is just a matter of setlocaltint |
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| 06:57.32 | JademusSreg | My apologies, my intent was to delegate the task and implement the results to save time, haha. |
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| 07:08.51 | Zolden | kingTD I joined earlier than you! |
| 07:11.44 | G0A | Dammit Zolden, stop buying up all of Hitler's books! http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-01-09/sales-hitlers-mein-kampf-are-surging |
| 07:14.15 | Zolden | i think it's jews |
| 07:14.25 | kingTD | Zolden u hitler! WTF |
| 07:14.39 | Zolden | kingtdler |
| 07:15.47 | Zolden | i've got very existential and transcendential source of fun |
| 07:16.45 | Zolden | I just need to look through the window, and say to myself: this is fucking january |
| 07:17.46 | Zolden | it's like witnessing a moustacheless man breastfeeding a jew, and knowing that it's hitler |
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| 07:51.19 | ArcanePariah | quack quack |
| 07:51.32 | JademusSreg | Quark. |
| 07:59.51 | JademusSreg | Looks like I've locked up the editor process. =D |
| 08:01.59 | Zolden | quolbdt |
| 08:02.00 | JademusSreg | Yep, it's attempting to crash out gracefully, but the assert and crash thread is held up, haha. |
| 08:03.52 | JademusSreg | Nearly half of the thread's callstack is filled with assert and crash calls, adorable. |
| 08:05.54 | JademusSreg | Decided to kill it, though, since there's no way that would have recovered short of modifying the memory. |
| 08:25.28 | ArcanePariah | Welp, time to go take a trip to dreamland :D |
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| 09:47.11 | kingTD | zolden still making new builder? |
| 09:57.46 | Zolden | yea |
| 09:58.10 | Zolden | but very slow, models aren't ready yet |
| 10:07.53 | kingTD | so how is that shitty bouble looks like now? |
| 10:09.29 | JademusSreg | Speaking of shitty, I need to post a screenshot. |
| 10:13.46 | JademusSreg | https://www.dropbox.com/s/nyii9d3egllysi4/UltraShittyStyle.png |
| 10:14.53 | Zolden | it can't be shitty |
| 10:14.57 | Zolden | only things can be shitty |
| 10:14.59 | Zolden | shit can't |
| 10:15.46 | Zolden | kingTD the last one you saw, black with white "radiation hazard" splat |
| 10:16.41 | JademusSreg | Custom styles along can produce illegible tet. |
| 10:16.44 | JademusSreg | *alone |
| 10:16.52 | kingTD | yeah shit is shitty |
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| 10:47.24 | G0A | another competitive arcade gaming doc film http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQZ9wXO8RVs&list=PL3FA9055F5A7C3B30 |
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| 10:59.00 | JademusSreg | ???? |
| 11:00.43 | kingTD | NO! |
| 11:00.49 | kingTD | I WILL NOT WATCH UU |
| 11:00.53 | kingTD | ANYMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAR |
| 11:18.25 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8zIDiHXvhOY |
| 11:20.00 | G0A | wow this video comment's are spammed by stewoxes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eDTzV6a9F4 |
| 11:29.14 | JademusSreg | Goa, the grammatically correct plural of "stewox" is "stewoxen". |
| 11:36.25 | G0A | :) |
| 11:40.05 | Zolden | kingTD found your photo http://icdn.lenta.ru/images/2014/01/10/15/20140110152940517/pic_c25d1b1801bcd3939d4c410e1e69f705.jpg |
| 11:40.26 | kingTD | lies 01 |
| 11:41.01 | G0A | Zolden I found yours: http://www.biography.com/imported/images/Biography/Images/Profiles/H/Adolf-Hitler-9340144-2-402.jpg |
| 11:41.24 | kingTD | lies 02 |
| 11:41.27 | UltimateGOTO | JademusSreg, I shall teach you Dutch |
| 11:41.43 | UltimateGOTO | Lesson one 'all niggers must die' in Dutch 'alle negers moeten dood' |
| 11:41.48 | G0A | or teach him Duck |
| 11:41.51 | UltimateGOTO | Note that 'dood' in this case is not a verb |
| 11:42.13 | UltimateGOTO | It's more like 'all niggers must [be] dead' |
| 11:42.24 | UltimateGOTO | You can say in Dutch like 'You must fast' |
| 11:42.34 | UltimateGOTO | You can use must as a copula in that sense. |
| 11:42.59 | G0A | Dutch is pretty similar to German, isnt it? |
| 11:42.59 | UltimateGOTO | 'Je moet groot' is like 'you must be big/great' |
| 11:43.14 | UltimateGOTO | About as similar to each other as they both are to English |
| 11:45.22 | UltimateGOTO | G0A, anyway, you say in Dutch 'women should be subservient to men and black people should be slaves' like 'vrouwen zouden ondergeschikt aan mannen moeten zijn en negers slaven' |
| 11:45.36 | Bommes | dutch is like cologne german |
| 11:45.49 | Bommes | like their dialect |
| 11:47.11 | UltimateGOTO | Kölsch is closer to standard Dutch than to standard German. |
| 11:47.40 | UltimateGOTO | Many forms of Swiss German are also closer to standard Dutch than standard German. |
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| 12:54.37 | kingTD | okay |
| 12:54.41 | kingTD | drunk |
| 12:54.49 | kingTD | lets make models for AoK |
| 13:55.37 | A1win | http://www.cbc.ca/news/technology/organic-battery-hailed-as-cheap-renewable-energy-solution-1.2489300 |
| 13:55.53 | G0A | nice: http://blogs.westword.com/latestword/2014/01/pot_sales_denver_5_million_five_days.php |
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| 15:04.51 | JademusSreg | From the depthsss I jessst. |
| 15:07.23 | JademusSreg | Laj, were the offer sincere, I'd be interested, and I agree that learning memorable phrases (typically eliciting some amusement in recall) is the best approach. |
| 15:08.47 | JademusSreg | Unrelated, style configuration options allow one to make hell of a mess: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nyii9d3egllysi4/UltraShittyStyle.png |
| 15:14.07 | JademusSreg | Here's the style info: http://hastebin.com/fogecupigo.tex |
| 15:18.08 | JademusSreg | Didn't find an in-editor tool for adding color constants, added them manually instead. |
| 15:20.35 | JademusSreg | Zol, remember our rambling discussion about computation, computers, chemistry and such? Seems we're closer to chemistry-free computers than I expected. http://arstechnica.com/science/2014/01/metamaterials-could-perform-calculus-with-light-waves/ |
| 15:41.41 | Zolden | JademusSreg would be nice if they could implement all math operations, not just derivatives |
| 15:46.17 | JademusSreg | Nice to wish for, but you know the old saying: Wish in one hand, cast fireball spells with the other, see which hand fills with loot first. |
| 15:46.56 | G0A | Jade: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522861/worlds-first-photonic-integrated-circuit-for-manipulating-atoms |
| 15:47.34 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 15:48.46 | G0A | Also: http://www.technologyreview.com/view/522811/1-femtojoule-optical-interconnect-paves-the-way-for-low-power-high-performance-chips |
| 15:48.55 | JademusSreg | One of the great things about the advance of technology is that is ensures there will always be new content for Civ games. |
| 15:49.39 | G0A | If technology doesnt destroy us:) |
| 15:50.45 | Dustin | wtb [Quantum Computing] |
| 15:51.29 | JademusSreg | Technology doesn't destroy people, people destroy people using technology. |
| 15:52.25 | G0A | but without technology we cant succeed in destroying ourself. |
| 15:52.45 | JademusSreg | There's a few more kinks on the units to work out, but gotta script the mechanic lest I continue to tweak prototype content. |
| 15:55.42 | Zolden | people don't destroy people, nature creates people to destroy people with other people or other parts of nature |
| 15:56.07 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 15:56.14 | Zolden | but if people invent AI, technology will start destroying people |
| 15:56.35 | G0A | good point |
| 15:56.56 | JademusSreg | Naw, by that method of reasoning, AI is natural. |
| 15:57.12 | G0A | not if I make it:) |
| 15:57.46 | G0A | because Hitler AI > natural AI |
| 16:01.47 | Zolden | haitler |
| 16:01.49 | JademusSreg | (AI is also natural in the context of naturalism, the position which rejects supernatural, such as on the basis that "supernatural" interactions with a world governed by natural (physical) laws would themselves be governed by said laws in course and so cannot be accurately be described as outside, above, or in violation of natural laws.) |
| 16:01.56 | Zolden | his residence will be on haiti |
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| 16:02.40 | Zolden | yea, we trapped in nature ;/ |
| 16:02.55 | JademusSreg | See also: universe. |
| 16:03.04 | Zolden | like our consciousness inside bodies |
| 16:03.42 | JademusSreg | Naw, consciousness is merely a product of a self-modeling system. |
| 16:05.51 | G0A | I thought it was product of self-replicating system's mutation. |
| 16:07.01 | Zolden | consciousness is a second derivative of the self-replicating system, the first one is evolution |
| 16:07.10 | JademusSreg | Refering to the capability rather than the how the capability was enabled. |
| 16:07.23 | JademusSreg | *rather than how =D |
| 16:09.42 | Zolden | and self-replicativeness is one of the basic properties in nature, for example, crystallisation is its simpliest manifestation, and rna self-reproduction is physically close to crystallisation |
| 16:10.14 | JademusSreg | *self-organizing systems, precurse self-replication |
| 16:11.35 | Zolden | yea, self-organisation, nature just can't avoid it, can't dissipate energy and information without affecting the system that produced them |
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| 16:12.42 | motive | Life is negative entropy. /discuss |
| 16:13.04 | JademusSreg | Extropy, yep, even a nice little word for it. |
| 16:13.45 | motive | My contribution is complete. |
| 16:13.48 | motive | I'm glad we're all in agreement. |
| 16:13.50 | motive | is satisfied. |
| 16:14.38 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 16:16.34 | JademusSreg | Unfortunately, it's not the case if one looks any further than the arbitrarily delimited system bounds of the individual separate form the environment into which it exports its entropy. |
| 16:16.43 | JademusSreg | *from |
| 16:18.18 | Zolden | some waterfall's drops go up, against gravity |
| 16:18.37 | G0A | yeah life may change the time scale of entropy but it doesnt changes the end product:) |
| 16:20.33 | JademusSreg | That can't be known to any appreciable degree of certainty, but fair speculation. |
| 16:20.53 | Zolden | yea, life just adds more smaller steps on the path of energy from low to high entropy forms |
| 16:20.55 | G0A | Zolden http://youtu.be/uENITui5_jU?t=2m :) |
| 16:21.23 | motive | guys I just want to invite you all |
| 16:21.24 | motive | http://improveverywhere.com/2014/01/06/global-no-pants-subway-ride-2014/ |
| 16:21.26 | motive | COME TO NEW YORK CITY |
| 16:21.33 | motive | RUN AROUND DURING WINTER IN YOUR UNDERPANTS |
| 16:21.36 | motive | IT'LL BE GREAT |
| 16:22.10 | Zolden | will there be open tits everywhere day? |
| 16:22.24 | Zolden | G0A that's phoney! |
| 16:22.29 | motive | that's legal in NYC every day, zolden |
| 16:22.31 | motive | we know what's up |
| 16:22.47 | G0A | motive Its much more fun to mass naked drunk run:) |
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| 16:34.50 | JademusSreg | Might be fun to watch, I suppose. Actually, a mass nude run presents entrepreneurial opportunities. |
| 16:37.51 | JademusSreg | One could sell genital facades to obscure or enhance their appearance, Design Not-T-Shirts would offer a great profit margin as they would consist of drawing on people, and obviously one would want to provide, snacks, beverages, an open-air space heater, and optionally viagra and MDMA. |
| 16:44.02 | G0A | last 2 item you listed would make any thing into a nice party:) |
| 16:46.58 | JademusSreg | It's always a good time for mindless self indulgence. |
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| 17:14.34 | G0A | MM? |
| 17:15.04 | duckies | MM in ~8 minutes |
| 17:17.09 | kingTD | black niggas invading EU |
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| 17:24.23 | duckies | got to finish my food, need 10 more minutes sry >.> |
| 17:29.18 | duckies | ok G0A MM? |
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| 17:30.55 | G0A | kingTD? |
| 17:40.34 | kingTD | will make some imbalance to aok first |
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| 18:17.14 | kingTD | hmmm what i have to check to make clicking on train unit to make on every selected group of units to start training |
| 18:17.24 | kingTD | i know there was that thing before |
| 18:17.27 | kingTD | now cant find it |
| 18:24.06 | Zolden | kingTD "best unit" flag uncheck in the train abil |
| 18:24.33 | Zolden | not sure, just saw it in chat |
| 18:25.56 | kingTD | yep that works |
| 18:38.14 | G0A | Zolden KingTD wake uP! |
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| 19:05.19 | G0A | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/12316139/patch-21-preview-extension-mods-1-7-2014 |
| 19:05.21 | G0A | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/12277092/patch-21-preview-more-levels-and-new-rewards-1-9-2014 |
| 19:05.32 | Zolden | when the release? |
| 19:06.52 | G0A | next year:DD |
| 19:07.23 | Zolden | i don't believe |
| 19:07.26 | JademusSreg | Old news, and zero interest in metagame progress levels or whatever. |
| 19:07.33 | Zolden | they never keep promices |
| 19:09.06 | JademusSreg | Also, the way they word their descriptions of extension mods suggests multiple mods may be selected, but to date this is not the case. |
| 19:11.49 | kingTD | zoldden when update for center plauyers more res? |
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| 19:29.54 | kingTD | Zolden make sight of view larger than ability to build stuff to fix stuff |
| 20:02.48 | kingTD | where i can see xml errors? |
| 20:02.55 | kingTD | data editor |
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| 20:04.54 | DeadZergling | no AP yet today huh, wanted to tell him grats on NoTD2 getting past 5k |
| 20:06.21 | Zolden | kingTD yea, probably will |
| 20:16.14 | kingTD | Jade here? |
| 20:16.27 | kingTD | how to make button to be responsive to right click? |
| 20:18.35 | Ahli | isn't there map night? |
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| 20:34.24 | kingTD | Zandose there are no EU map night going right now |
| 20:34.49 | Zandose | ok. and you told me why? |
| 20:35.04 | Zolden | because he thinks you care |
| 20:35.22 | Zandose | thank you for your carefully worded input |
| 20:35.27 | Zolden | hope you don't disappoint him |
| 20:35.41 | Zolden | hitler onece disappointed him |
| 20:35.45 | Zolden | and look where he's now |
| 20:36.03 | Zolden | don't repeat hitler's mistakes |
| 20:36.28 | Zandose | last time i saw hitler he was in the closet |
| 20:37.37 | Zandose | doctor who |
| 20:37.58 | Zolden | and last time I saw hitler, he was in internet |
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| 20:38.25 | Zandose | how did he get "in" the internet? |
| 20:39.04 | Zolden | his moustache is a secret code, like that key to the hidden door in hobbit movie |
| 20:39.19 | Zandose | understood |
| 20:39.24 | Zolden | he attached it to the slot, and he got there |
| 20:39.43 | Zolden | he was trying to hide from kingTD anger |
| 20:39.51 | Zolden | because he disappointed him |
| 20:40.15 | Zolden | he said "i don't give a butt fucking shit about you sad homo map nigggt" |
| 20:40.42 | Zolden | immediately he realized what just happened, but it was too late |
| 20:44.20 | kingTD | well rebalanced a bit buildings hps like castle hp from 5k to 1k, and upgradable to 1500 |
| 20:44.28 | kingTD | guard towers too |
| 20:44.39 | kingTD | melee units more a bit dmg against buildings |
| 20:45.09 | Zolden | http://9gag.com/gag/aG9nrXG?fb_action_ids=10202829020992304&fb_action_types=og.likes |
| 20:45.39 | Zolden | for your situation it's ok |
| 20:46.12 | G0A | JademusSreg stewox sent you this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqrNqszvRZw He is apperntly in arcade map night |
| 20:46.13 | Zolden | also implement autoformation like in rol |
| 20:46.26 | Zolden | ron |
| 20:47.15 | Zolden | also, make cannons/catapultas more important to fight ve buildings |
| 20:50.12 | kingTD | they where important |
| 20:50.19 | kingTD | but whos the problem that noone makes them? |
| 20:53.53 | Zolden | castles were too expensive and required alot of aging to build, so no one created them, so no one built cannons |
| 21:01.07 | kingTD | few pps had them |
| 21:01.18 | kingTD | and where killing armies while having one castle |
| 21:01.33 | kingTD | since one was building siege equipment |
| 21:07.52 | kingTD | well we just played some experimental map that have lots resource choises but lags like shit |
| 21:11.17 | G0A | "Stewox: it would be good if you ask what's the idea of domain block, jademus did it so ask him |
| 21:11.17 | G0A | why the heck i'm blocked off the whole site, and therefore tutorials and posts about sc2 stuff" |
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| 21:28.32 | kingTD | i guess nothing much can be done |
| 21:28.56 | kingTD | problem still persist when having 8 players will 50 units per player |
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| 23:55.15 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 23:56.43 | DeadZergling | hi ArcanePariah, grats on actually getting paid for NoTD |
| 23:57.21 | ArcanePariah | Thanks |
| 23:57.52 | ArcanePariah | Personally didn't mind either way, but still nice, we mostly needed the cash to finance voice/art work |
| 23:58.01 | ArcanePariah | Custom VO, and the such |
| 23:58.56 | DeadZergling | understandable, and the time spent versus the pay is doubtful to even be considered minimum wage |
| 23:59.01 | DeadZergling | but still, is nice :) |
