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| 07:33.36 | JademusSreg | This is quaint; I copy-pasta'd and adjusted the formatting of a 19th-century London occupational census. https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/VictorianOccupations.html |
| 07:34.12 | JademusSreg | Fun fact: 2 terms for pimp. |
| 07:41.14 | JademusSreg | "Interfactor: A murderer." Funny that one would list this as an occupation. |
| 07:47.06 | G0A | lol |
| 07:51.08 | JademusSreg | "Kellogg: A slaughterman." That adds an amusing (if incorrect) connotation to the cereal brand. |
| 07:54.34 | JademusSreg | Badger is pretty funny, too. |
| 07:57.27 | JademusSreg | "Batman: an officer's servant in the army" |
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| 08:09.47 | G0A | :) |
| 08:47.25 | Deaod | Baller :D |
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| 09:02.12 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 09:03.36 | kingTD | =S |
| 09:14.42 | G0A | =O |
| 09:16.45 | G0A | lol http://www.vice.com/read/russia-is-installing-video-cameras-in-school-classrooms |
| 09:19.58 | G0A | ohh I thought for a moment they will camera everything, not only state tests |
| 09:27.00 | DeadZergling | Putin will never be able to keep up with the great Kim Jong Un if only for that reason |
| 09:27.58 | DeadZergling | need cameras in every class room, hallway, entrance/exit, bathroom, multiple angles for girls shower room |
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| 10:25.12 | DeadZergling | hello Zolden |
| 10:34.38 | kingTD | heh http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o1WWynl1iFc |
| 10:39.37 | Zolden | hey |
| 10:41.53 | DeadZergling | Sean Bean had to make that list |
| 10:42.03 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 10:43.53 | kingTD | trolololo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7thb4T3Lqc |
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| 10:50.46 | DeadZergling | had me worried there, but they saved Sean Bean for last |
| 10:51.20 | JademusSreg | What is this I don't even Sean Bean |
| 10:52.30 | DeadZergling | kingTD's first link |
| 10:52.39 | DeadZergling | top 10 actors who die a LOT in movies |
| 10:53.38 | JademusSreg | wonders if Udo Kier is on the list. |
| 11:10.37 | kingTD | http://www.twitch.tv/artosis |
| 11:11.59 | JademusSreg | Is anything of interest occuring? |
| 11:13.03 | DeadZergling | just a lazy night for me, reorganizing models some, 3 new monsters for existing areas, that's about it |
| 11:13.28 | JademusSreg | Directed at twod, but good to know. |
| 11:13.46 | DeadZergling | would think that is obvious from how many videos he is linking... |
| 11:24.32 | Zolden | kingTD make a 10 hours video of you watching youtube videos |
| 11:26.19 | kingTD | 264 |
| 11:26.39 | Zolden | 17-1 |
| 11:27.41 | kingTD | that would be too exciting to make and for other to watch, i dont want to be hitler and everjoy people with the content i will provide. |
| 11:28.18 | Zolden | hitler diden't want to be hitler too |
| 11:49.57 | JademusSreg | Certainly didn't wanna be the guy commiting double suicide with his trophy wife in a bunker to avoid vicious torture if caught by the advancing soviets. |
| 12:02.39 | Zolden | won't map be banned if I add an achievemnt named "greedy jew"? |
| 12:03.14 | kingTD | zolden u know the answer u nazi |
| 12:04.18 | JademusSreg | Zol, I may have a solution. |
| 12:04.22 | DeadZergling | just say Mr. Scrooge |
| 12:04.29 | DeadZergling | won't be banned, same message |
| 12:06.10 | JademusSreg | "Greedy Ÿou" |
| 12:06.16 | Zolden | lol |
| 12:07.51 | JademusSreg | Apparently in Dutch, Ÿ represents the digraph "ij", so it achieves a similar sound. |
| 12:10.44 | Zolden | great, but no one knows |
| 12:11.03 | Zolden | so, i'll use more obvious euphemism |
| 12:11.46 | JademusSreg | Great name for a map lampooning geek culture: Dårk Dungeon |
| 12:12.35 | JademusSreg | (In Danish and Norwegian, long å is pronounced /ɔː/, which effectively makes the name "Dork Dungeon".) |
| 12:15.44 | Zolden | don't think my dictionary returns the correct meaning of "dork" to let me enjoy the pun |
| 12:16.12 | JademusSreg | https://www.google.com/search?q=define%3Adork |
| 12:17.34 | JademusSreg | Or if that doesn't provide useful results: http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=dork |
| 12:18.30 | Zolden | oh, now i see, thanks |
| 12:18.47 | JademusSreg | For a song which is only vaguely related: http://youtu.be/Ioi2e6xL3XE |
| 12:24.14 | Zolden | kingTD a guy reported that selling tower affects ever gathered resource, so one with fast fingers can get all 4 bonuses at wave 2 |
| 12:26.57 | kingTD | he reported u fix it ... |
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| 15:24.34 | Zolden | kingTD what do you think about this kind of team sends visualization? http://i.snag.gy/Z2BIZ.jpg |
| 15:26.02 | kingTD | decent |
| 15:27.26 | Zolden | ok |
| 15:27.54 | G0A | nice |
| 15:27.57 | G0A | add tooltip |
| 15:28.52 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 15:29.10 | Zolden | ppl will understasnsd it immediately |
| 15:29.29 | Zolden | don't think someone will need a tooltip |
| 15:29.49 | Zolden | it's like having atooltip "it's a hitler" on hitler |
| 15:30.28 | JademusSreg | Hm, seems like a good time to test if the debugger still works on bnet games. And also if console commands work. |
| 15:36.19 | JademusSreg | Yup, debugger still works. |
| 15:36.43 | Zolden | can it tell me why game lags? |
| 15:36.55 | Zolden | one of my maps stasrted lagging badly after the last patch |
| 15:37.13 | JademusSreg | Maybe. Because I used a console command, and that shit worked too. =D |
| 15:42.01 | JademusSreg | Also, holy shit hilarious, custom game melee maps seem to obfuscate their code by default. Hilarious because it is completely useless. |
| 15:42.48 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SvRZpykS6s |
| 15:43.33 | JademusSreg | No wait, my mistake, that might be a side effect of Renee's mod applied to the map; will need to verify that later. |
| 15:46.41 | Zolden | nice, physics |
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| 15:58.08 | JademusSreg | Ah, darn, just a fluke. However, I am crashing the editor consistently with these console commands. |
| 16:02.26 | JademusSreg | Glad the debugger works, though. |
| 16:03.44 | JademusSreg | Run debugger and go play Mafia or The Thing or whatever such game which depends on hidden information. |
| 16:03.55 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 16:04.28 | Dustin | Mining Doge |
| 16:04.49 | JademusSreg | Dunno what that is. =D |
| 16:05.03 | Ahli | dogecoins... the new bitcoins |
| 16:06.53 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 16:11.17 | Dustin | hehe |
| 16:11.23 | Dustin | I started doing cryptocurrency mining |
| 16:17.58 | JademusSreg | Ride those speculation bubbles, haha. |
| 16:29.26 | JademusSreg | Hm, wonder when they added RegionPolygon |
| 16:29.30 | Zolden | Dustin |
| 16:30.07 | Zolden | have u purchased legal weed yet? |
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| 16:58.20 | G0A | Dustin which coin you mine? |
| 16:58.33 | G0A | We need Weedcoin |
| 17:02.58 | Zolden | hitlercoin will send armies to other coins and demolish them |
| 17:04.24 | Zolden | G0A it's actually a funny idea: a currency based on weed like other coins are based on gold |
| 17:04.36 | Dustin | Dogecoin |
| 17:04.51 | Dustin | Zolden, no, I was going to drive up there for NYE, but I was sick |
| 17:05.32 | Zolden | weed has objective cost: it makes ppl high, so currency can rely on it and be real |
| 17:05.56 | Zolden | Dustin well, now you can drive there any time |
| 17:06.38 | Dustin | Ya, ill be moving there in a couple months |
| 17:06.38 | Dustin | :D |
| 17:06.39 | Zolden | it's like when god said to adam that he can grow now and gave seeds of a badass strain he smokes |
| 17:07.10 | Dustin | You'll have to come to the states after I move there and visit |
| 17:08.06 | Zolden | adam growed, smoked, had some fun for some days, and then asked god for a chick to bang while high to have more fun, and god was also high and created eve |
| 17:10.10 | Zolden | she got high too, but then the snake dude said he has better shit, and sold her some crack, she tried it and gave up weed, and god got angry and expelled them both from the heaven |
| 17:10.49 | Zolden | (then he tried to get nigger pets instead because they are more tolerate to weed, but they turned to crack even faster) |
| 17:11.11 | Zolden | now he smokes alone and thingks ppl are stupid |
| 17:11.33 | Zolden | but after the colorado legalise measures he got some hope in humanity |
| 17:12.27 | Zolden | and thinking about sending jesus again downthere, because pure dude smokes too much since his last mission and need some change |
| 17:12.57 | Zolden | mmaybe he'll create jesuscoin then |
| 17:16.59 | G0A | Godcoin |
| 17:17.45 | Zolden | Caincoin |
| 17:23.42 | JademusSreg | imagines minable currencies based on protein folding or mathematical proofs. |
| 17:24.10 | Dustin | Lets do it jade |
| 17:24.22 | Dustin | SplugeCoin |
| 17:25.06 | JademusSreg | I would totally code that, if I didn't think it would be dreadfully boring and excessively risky an investment of my resources. |
| 17:25.16 | G0A | http://primecoin.org/static/primecoin-paper.pdf Primecoin based on finding primes |
| 17:25.26 | JademusSreg | Nice find, Goa. |
| 17:25.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:25.48 | G0A | :) |
| 17:25.57 | G0A | I found it about 30 min ago |
| 17:26.39 | JademusSreg | All of this suggests a trend toward computational power as a currency standard and computational product as currency. |
| 17:26.59 | JademusSreg | I look forward top that future. |
| 17:27.25 | Dustin | me tooo |
| 17:27.27 | G0A | :D |
| 17:28.09 | G0A | bahh I hate when I get beaten in HS with same exact deck as I have |
| 17:30.12 | Zolden | G0A hitler too didn't like to be beaten with the same tyrany regime as he had |
| 17:31.57 | Zolden | anyway, computational power is becoming a base of currency because it's actually the only real shit in our universe |
| 17:32.16 | Zolden | matter is shit |
| 17:32.41 | Zolden | computations is where and when the universe is alive |
| 17:33.04 | G0A | computation = energy = matter |
| 17:33.19 | Zolden | matter is just a simpele and predictable stream of growing entropy |
| 17:33.31 | Zolden | computation = energy + information != matter |
| 17:33.39 | G0A | yeah only information that matters:D |
| 17:33.43 | Zolden | lol |
| 17:35.03 | Zolden | evolution shows that computation > matter, that computation is precious |
| 17:37.16 | G0A | fucking murlock warlock deck |
| 17:37.33 | kingTD | :D |
| 17:38.19 | G0A | ofcourse he had blood imp in his hand from the start |
| 17:39.11 | Zolden | eemp |
| 17:39.39 | G0A | and I cant silence the fucker |
| 17:39.41 | G0A | hate this game |
| 17:40.54 | A1win | ;p |
| 17:41.01 | kingTD | mb time to go hate MnM? |
| 17:41.12 | G0A | wow I might make it |
| 17:41.29 | G0A | holy nova made a nice wipe:D |
| 17:44.27 | G0A | yay and he makes 12 damage on me with spells |
| 17:44.36 | G0A | totally balanced game |
| 17:45.47 | G0A | anyone has 1 useless HS beta key?:D |
| 17:46.08 | kingTD | u are useless! |
| 17:47.45 | A1win | G0A, it's a mostly luck based game |
| 17:48.03 | kingTD | like mm |
| 17:48.12 | G0A | never won against murlock warlock |
| 17:48.36 | G0A | unbalanced luck game yeah |
| 17:48.38 | A1win | then modify your deck ;p |
| 17:48.40 | kingTD | ... |
| 17:48.45 | kingTD | exactly |
| 17:48.55 | kingTD | have plenty of splash spless and u fine |
| 17:49.46 | kingTD | ... spless ... X_x |
| 17:50.08 | G0A | I have 2 holly nova |
| 17:50.24 | G0A | priest dont have other splash spell |
| 17:50.29 | kingTD | get abbadon |
| 17:50.43 | G0A | well there is the mass dispel spell I have 1 from that. |
| 17:50.57 | Zolden | kingTD soon we'll mnm, just lemme add a patch with send visualisastions |
| 17:51.21 | kingTD | fixed the expliot for rewards? |
| 17:55.41 | Zolden | yea |
| 17:59.53 | A1win | woo enough gold for an arena again |
| 17:59.57 | A1win | anyone want a stream? |
| 18:01.35 | A1win | well here it is anyway http://www.twitch.tv/a1win |
| 18:03.21 | G0A | haha crap cards |
| 18:03.55 | A1win | awesome cards! |
| 18:05.52 | kingTD | really? mage? :( |
| 18:06.25 | A1win | haven't played enough with shaman or paladin that were the other options |
| 18:06.32 | A1win | last time I went 0-3 on paladin :P |
| 18:06.43 | A1win | also got a 5 win mage quest |
| 18:06.59 | kingTD | mage is too straight forward u nuke the fuck out of enemy or u die trying |
| 18:08.11 | kingTD | but wtf mage and no nukes or disables... |
| 18:08.18 | A1win | yeh ;p |
| 18:09.13 | A1win | lulz |
| 18:09.41 | kingTD | gl hf... |
| 18:11.14 | JademusSreg | Zol, matter is both a substrate for computation, and the product of computation. Information corresponds to the distortion of a system's energy in perfect entropy; the energy value of information is the function describing deviation from perfect entropy. Matter -is- energy in a particular configuration, so to speak, as illustrated by Einstein's famous equation, e=MC Hammer or some such. |
| 18:19.14 | A1win | what a shitty starting hand this time |
| 18:21.05 | G0A | nice music:D |
| 18:23.16 | Zolden | Jade, I'm not sure about if matter is a substrate, but for sure it's a product, yes. Quantum computations is what runs the universe, creates matter, physics, chemistry, biology, consciousness - all that shit is runned by base quantum comutations. All processes are computation. Farting bum is alot of quantum computations. |
| 18:23.18 | Zolden | And now humans have created another level of computations. It's super weak, but it's the deepest discovery with the longest consequences. Fire, wheels, powder, constructions, airplanes, cat videos - all these are primitive things if we compare it to the god blessing computations, which are the heart of the universe. |
| 18:24.49 | Zolden | what is the difference between base quantum computations and those runned by computers |
| 18:25.04 | G0A | :) |
| 18:25.42 | kingTD | what a tuci tuci :O |
| 18:25.47 | G0A | quantum computation only noticeable if you run into single problems which requires lots of computation.... |
| 18:25.53 | Zolden | the difference is that information is free inside our computers, it was released, it was a slave and became master |
| 18:26.04 | G0A | like calculating prime numbers |
| 18:26.06 | kingTD | zolden when the update? |
| 18:26.29 | Zolden | just finished |
| 18:26.34 | G0A | hmm quantum computers could mine all bitcoins :) |
| 18:26.35 | Zolden | need to click update button |
| 18:26.39 | G0A | if they are possible |
| 18:26.55 | Zolden | yea, G0A, but also they can hack them in one moment |
| 18:27.11 | G0A | hack what? |
| 18:27.41 | Zolden | dunno, bitcoins |
| 18:28.00 | G0A | it couldnt hack it... |
| 18:28.07 | G0A | as far as I know |
| 18:29.13 | Zolden | maybe, don't know the details, but ppl say they will rape them |
| 18:31.51 | G0A | what ppl? |
| 18:32.15 | Zolden | some dudes who udnerstand both and can speculate |
| 18:36.01 | JademusSreg | Ah, but Zol, you think too narrowly, miss all the layers of computation between. =D |
| 18:36.56 | Zolden | yea, stuff like hydrodynamics is also calculations |
| 18:38.55 | Zolden | but there's something fundamental that creates the difference between computer calculations and any kind of physical interactions |
| 18:39.17 | Zolden | nature have huge probalems creating something new with its laws |
| 18:39.31 | Zolden | had to spend 4 billioon yeras of calculations to create human brain |
| 18:39.51 | Zolden | while computers are just perfect for this kind of stuff |
| 18:40.24 | A1win | lol he had lethal and didn't attack |
| 18:40.27 | A1win | oh well |
| 18:40.34 | A1win | not that it matters much |
| 18:40.56 | G0A | wake up duckies ! |
| 18:41.12 | duckies | k |
| 18:41.16 | duckies | you have woken me up |
| 18:41.16 | kingTD | mm still not updated |
| 18:41.54 | duckies | what? boooooo |
| 18:42.11 | JademusSreg | Naw, rather I mean to invite you to consider that every event (in the most generic sense) is an interaction, interactions which must at least in principle be quantifiable for information/thermodynamic conservation. Their quantifiability means they can be represented mathematically, and mathematic representability of dynamic systems (ie, things that do stuff, everything) entails computation |
| 18:42.11 | JademusSreg | to determine the results of each event. |
| 18:42.24 | Zolden | human brain is a dull piece of meat, doing mostly its trivial physical calculations, and only some activity calculates real stuff like consciosness. So, 4 billion years made it far from being perfect. And computers have nothing redundant, they jsut eat some minimum energy and calculate, no trashy chemistry involved |
| 18:43.14 | G0A | computation or just progress towards entropy |
| 18:43.36 | JademusSreg | Goa, either way. |
| 18:43.39 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:44.10 | G0A | these words, they are so vague and shity:) |
| 18:44.36 | A1win | fuck mages |
| 18:44.54 | G0A | A1win's stream is the new net radio that I listen:) |
| 18:45.05 | A1win | well I lost already :P 2-3 |
| 18:45.08 | G0A | you are with mage:) |
| 18:45.22 | G0A | you suck:D |
| 18:45.32 | A1win | didn't give me any mage spells >_> |
| 18:45.33 | G0A | I usually make to 4 win |
| 18:45.45 | kingTD | well shitty card given and no heals taken. |
| 18:45.47 | A1win | just some crap like 1/2 taunt for 1 mana yay |
| 18:45.59 | G0A | A1win learn :) http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/9742094161 |
| 18:46.00 | JademusSreg | And chemistry is involved, so long as molecular interaction is involved. Now if hypothetical computers were constructed from meta-materials consisting only of synthetic space-time distortions, then it would not by our standards involve chemistry. |
| 18:46.36 | A1win | G0A, I've read on stuff, just didn't get enough good cards ;p |
| 18:46.48 | G0A | excuses:) |
| 18:47.07 | G0A | this game is totally not about luck you know:D |
| 18:47.21 | kingTD | lol wtf cant select letters in the first post :/ |
| 18:47.24 | A1win | only 75% luck |
| 18:48.59 | JademusSreg | Twod, I have you covered. |
| 18:50.07 | Zolden | JademusSreg ther's still a difference. Chemistry interactions represent themselves, there is no interpretation. While computers' memory states represent something else, they are getting interpreted, and this provides the layer of complexity that isn't exist in trivial nature processes |
| 18:50.38 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/WatDatsUnpossible.html |
| 18:51.24 | JademusSreg | Not saying there's no difference, but our computers involve chemistry, it's just significantly less wet. |
| 18:51.38 | kingTD | fuck y |
| 18:51.41 | kingTD | thx |
| 18:51.45 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 18:52.28 | Zolden | same with brain: neurons act like simple bacteria, same cells with potassium channels etc, but neurons are used to represent, to code something outside of their physical activity, their state is being interpreted as information |
| 18:52.35 | Zolden | though, it's still chemistry |
| 18:52.44 | Zolden | hard to formulate the fucking difference ;/ |
| 18:52.48 | JademusSreg | Twod, also, turns out you can highlight it if you start from the bottom and go up. =D |
| 18:52.56 | G0A | anyway, the perfect entropy will be when the whole universe will be one giant computer and it divides with 0 :) |
| 18:53.05 | Zolden | TWOARD!!!! |
| 18:54.05 | Zolden | universe is actually a process of divison by 0 |
| 18:54.07 | JademusSreg | Goa, naw, that ignores both space-time expansion, resulting event horizons, and vaccuum collapse. =D |
| 18:54.44 | G0A | while waiting for Zolden to upload instead of useless chating, how about testing my map duckies, kingTD ? |
| 18:54.44 | G0A | we could test the new game modes in Random slide.D |
| 18:55.01 | kingTD | he already uploaded |
| 18:55.27 | G0A | yeah it ignores lots of things, but who knows what will a computer not involve at that level:) |
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| 18:55.49 | G0A | then lets play the shity unbalanced map:D |
| 18:55.53 | Zolden | actually uploaded |
| 18:56.02 | Zolden | but yea, let's check goas thing |
| 18:56.09 | JademusSreg | has an idea to organize a dedicated pool of map testers on the forums. And they would be called "Mapster's Testicles". |
| 18:56.11 | G0A | no |
| 18:56.14 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 18:56.58 | kingTD | already playing! |
| 18:57.53 | Zolden | ok, i'll play with my cat then |
| 18:58.45 | Zolden | foil + thread + kitten -> fun |
| 19:00.21 | G0A | reward tooltip still not fixed |
| 19:01.30 | Zolden | i can't fix it, because for me it works correctly ;/ |
| 19:01.39 | Zolden | make me a screen |
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| 19:45.41 | G0A | Zolden because you dont reset the text variable after each player... |
| 19:45.56 | G0A | it adds with the previous player's text. |
| 19:46.25 | G0A | actually it probably adds up all players for the last player |
| 19:53.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (836bc076@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.192.118) |
| 19:53.47 | Zolden | G0A you mean the tooltip that shows when you mousover above "your reward level is x"? |
| 19:55.05 | G0A | yeah |
| 19:55.10 | Zolden | oh, u right |
| 19:55.11 | G0A | which lists the benefits |
| 19:55.38 | Zolden | what a noob mistake! |
| 20:01.03 | kingTD | noobs go play? |
| 20:05.36 | G0A | so |
| 20:05.46 | JademusSreg | Funny things happen if you delete the cache while the client is running. |
| 20:06.16 | Zolden | JademusSreg like what? |
| 20:06.38 | kingTD | zolden u cume here or not? |
| 20:07.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster duckie_ (4d26cd7a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.38.205.122) |
| 20:07.48 | JademusSreg | https://www.dropbox.com/s/2crona0v9ese79o/DeletedCacheSideeffect.jpg |
| 20:10.31 | JademusSreg | Haha, it also maintains a database file to redownload all the maps when the client is in the loading phase "Initializing Maps". |
| 20:12.58 | JademusSreg | Thankfully, that shit is not synced. |
| 20:14.24 | JademusSreg | imagines what would happen if the 10 most played maps were all combined without any effort to ensure compatibility. |
| 20:26.33 | DeadZergling | more variety in tower units and waves you must defend against? |
| 20:50.38 | duckie_ | kingto you're the lead |
| 20:50.46 | duckie_ | kingtd you're the lead |
| 21:20.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster mille25 (5de6f2d4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.93.230.242.212) |
| 21:20.41 | mille25 | hi |
| 21:24.10 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:24.37 | JademusSreg | mille, SCU employs encryption and verifies the signature, right? |
| 21:34.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster Moorhsum (~scraft@dsl-kpobrasgw1-54fac5-136.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:40.39 | *** join/#sc2mapster A1win (a1win@217.112.241.121) |
| 21:43.07 | mille25 | JademusSreg: yes. |
| 21:45.18 | JademusSreg | Goot. |
| 21:45.54 | JademusSreg | Verify on load (and wipe the bank if it fails), or verify on each read? |
| 21:47.16 | mille25 | first. |
| 21:47.53 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:47.59 | JademusSreg | Double goot. |
| 21:48.04 | mille25 | haha |
| 21:48.19 | mille25 | encryption is pretty weak though |
| 21:48.25 | JademusSreg | Starcode is laughably easy to reverse. |
| 21:48.26 | mille25 | no real benefit anyways |
| 21:48.37 | JademusSreg | And pretty much any reversible encryption will be. |
| 21:48.43 | mille25 | it will stop the nubs, and the others will hack it anyways, so who cares :D |
| 21:49.14 | mille25 | + it already has performance problems in its current state |
| 21:49.19 | mille25 | 100ms or some shit to load a char |
| 21:49.28 | mille25 | 150ms to save |
| 21:49.46 | A1win | bleh, was just rising from 0-2 to 4-2 in hearthstone but my ISP cut my connection just when I was about to win :| |
| 21:50.00 | mille25 | the main problem are the immutable strings though i guess, lots of appends D: |
| 21:50.27 | mille25 | also it constantly needs to return the generated string because strings are not passed by reference |
| 21:50.31 | mille25 | so it constantly copies big strings |
| 21:50.36 | JademusSreg | Generating a signature is a bit more work, as it involves a non-trivial set of parameters passed to the SHA. =D |
| 21:51.21 | JademusSreg | You could skip the encryption entirely and just save it as a huge bitmask. |
| 21:51.25 | JademusSreg | brb in 15 |
| 21:52.02 | mille25 | not all values are ints though, also i need a more future proven way of storing things, which is why i altered starcode alot |
| 21:52.33 | DeadZergling | I was considering making my banks more obscure, but the whole serverside bank thing coming |
| 21:52.35 | DeadZergling | makes it all kind of moot |
| 21:53.17 | mille25 | banks will always be hackable while they are local, no need to put too much effort into it |
| 21:54.12 | DeadZergling | indeed, they really just stealing the experience from themselves when they do it, anyways |
| 21:55.38 | DeadZergling | granted, I felt no remorse about editing my Clownz Gladiator Arena bank |
| 21:56.01 | DeadZergling | as fun as grinding out 20-30k currency sounded |
| 21:58.44 | DeadZergling | hurt my arm so bad during the few days I played that map |
| 22:00.44 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 22:00.54 | ArcanePariah | And yes, client side = non trustable |
| 22:01.32 | ArcanePariah | Which is why most companies are switching to online only, it is the the only verifiable way of doing DRM (from a technical standpoint) |
| 22:02.11 | ArcanePariah | Afaik, D3 has never been hacked or emulated since all item and monster spawns are done truly serverside, client just sees instructions on what to render |
| 22:02.28 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 22:02.59 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrFRaviVyQU |
| 22:05.48 | JademusSreg | Many galaxy native types are serializable, in some capacity; most values one would want to preserve can be emitted and loaded via string conversions, so it seems like a non-issue. |
| 22:06.11 | *** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.10.190.pool.invitel.hu) |
| 22:08.22 | JademusSreg | Unrelated, merry hacksmas: http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/openssl-site-defacement-involving-hypervisor-hack-rattles-nerves/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/backdoor-in-wireless-dsl-routers-lets-attacker-reset-router-get-admin/ http://arstechnica.com/security/2014/01/greyhats-expose-4-5-million-snapchat-phone-numbers-using-theoretical-hack/ |
| 22:39.51 | JademusSreg | Oh, Deaod, regarding point type arithmetic operations, resets both facing and height values to their defaults (-90 and 0 respectively) rather than operator on them. |
| 23:03.39 | A1win | win streaks in hearthstone are so annoying, you get them by being lucky and then you end up against people who have like 90% winrate against you |
| 23:11.40 | A1win | transitions between screens are too slow, why can't it just take me to the next screen instantly when I click instead of playing a long-ass fade animation first :I |
| 23:18.46 | A1win | now everyone at the same rank as I have two legendaries more in their deck ;p |
| 23:18.55 | A1win | can't I just go back at lower rank D: |
| 23:31.21 | JademusSreg | Nevar. |
| 23:33.22 | JademusSreg | Seems vic published The Thing Revival. Might be fun to run the debugger there. =D |
| 23:35.06 | JademusSreg | Meanwhile, strangely can't get Regions to render in the terrain editor in a map without terrain textures. |
| 23:36.03 | DeadZergling | could ya know, just stop playing |
| 23:36.11 | A1win | no! |
| 23:36.14 | DeadZergling | is always an option |
| 23:36.53 | JademusSreg | As is suicide. |
| 23:37.09 | DeadZergling | little more extreme, don't you think? |
| 23:37.13 | JademusSreg | Tis the season, afterall./ |
| 23:37.40 | A1win | x_X now I lost twice against rank 8 and now it gives me rank 7 |
| 23:37.44 | DeadZergling | Yes, thank you very much new year for reminding me a year later, I'm still not happy enough with my project to release it on arcade |
| 23:38.32 | DeadZergling | at least there are no unfinished classes now, all 5 functional |
| 23:39.00 | DeadZergling | have to try to wake up in time for NA map night |
| 23:39.08 | DeadZergling | see if my difficulty scaling is sane now |
| 23:44.51 | A1win | meh screw this |
| 23:45.07 | A1win | why can't they just let us play the arena for free ;p could just not give any rewards or something |
| 23:45.36 | A1win | "we made this awesome game but you have to pay 2e every two hours if you want to play it" |
| 23:46.51 | DeadZergling | look at that, your grumbling has scared 2 more away |
| 23:47.13 | JademusSreg | Yes, it's a monetization strategy, and given how fervently people are playing it, sounds soul-maceratingly effective. |
| 23:48.03 | JademusSreg | Er, apparently it's having trouble displaying any regions. |
| 23:48.47 | JademusSreg | wtf did they break? |
| 23:49.06 | A1win | oh well I'm not actually annoyed about hearthstone, just annoyed in general and needed something to direct it at ;x |
| 23:50.14 | DeadZergling | if that ever fails you, always naming your map to go back to |
| 23:53.27 | JademusSreg | Nevermind, somehow layer view settings were fucked up. =D |
| 23:53.55 | A1win | there aren't even enough TV series to watch D: |
| 23:54.23 | A1win | everything good is either on a break or finished |
| 23:54.47 | DeadZergling | Working pretty hard at doing nothing today are we? |
| 23:55.10 | A1win | yeah ;p |
| 23:55.49 | A1win | need to do something that I want to do so that I don't need to think about things that I need to do :x |
| 23:56.38 | DeadZergling | could test my project for me, find all sorts of issues to blame me and my laziness for |
| 23:57.46 | DeadZergling | I find that fun to do sometimes, just play a project and pick at it mercilessly |
