IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20131228

00:00.41Phil__@Arcane - I didn't realize there was a while loop. I thought I searched for that - but you're right.  A while with a condition is more intuitive.
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00:42.17Phil__Shit - and conditions don't short circuit
00:42.32ArcanePariah??? They should
00:45.23Phil__okay - nvm then.  My logic was just messed up
01:23.41Glorn2so uhhh; this is neat, eh?
02:16.01A1winwoo 6-2 on arena now
02:29.02A1winlulz got to 1 health and then got the opponent down from 14 and won
02:29.04A1win7-2
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02:36.57MoonEaterhttp://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/60675-texture-issue-bad-touch/#p1
02:47.51A1win8-2 on arena woo
02:48.09A1winepic game was epic
02:48.33A1wintop-deck game against a priest, I ran out of cards but had 22 health and 18 armor, killed him before his cards rand out
02:48.42A1win*ran
02:56.07A1winaww 8-3
02:56.13A1wincrushed by an insane warlock deck
02:57.16A1winahhh enough gold for another arena o//
02:57.34A1win180 gold, booster pack, and a golden earth shock
02:58.31A1winnow my wins from the 4 times I've been to aren are 2, 4, 6, 8
02:58.39A1win*arena
02:58.56A1win10 and 12 tomorrow
04:14.13ArcanePariahJademusSreg, are you present?
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11:20.29grim001...
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11:39.25Zoldenlaunches emp bolt into duckies to check if he not a robot
11:42.37DeadZerglingtoo expensive, just shoot him once with a gauss rifle, if he is like the robots on your map, he will die in one shot
11:43.22duckiesredirects emp bolt in deadzerglings general direction using duck powers! .. to check if he's really dead
11:43.38DeadZerglinghow would emp prove or disprove that?
11:44.12duckiesmaybe you're actually a robot, cause you're dead, yet you're talking, it's kinda shady
11:44.38DeadZerglingsays the talking duck
11:44.56Zoldenlol
11:45.32duckieshey hey, ducks talk all the time, you're just not used to it, cause of being a corpse and all that stuff
11:45.57DeadZerglingname one time that doesn't involve Warner Brothers or Walt Disney
11:46.15Zoldenall used to talking duck since chip and dale
11:48.00duckiesquacks and nods in agreement
11:48.53Zoldenomg, nodding duck? wtf!& magic?
11:49.20duckiesducks & duckic?
11:49.22Zoldengdis
11:49.57DeadZerglingno, ducks & duck dick
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11:51.55Zoldenspecial ducktics
11:52.02Zoldenspecial duckdicks
11:52.19Zoldenspecial twodieticks
11:52.27Zoldenspecial twodiedicks
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12:43.00duckiescrap, that joke went way over my head ._.
12:43.11duckieswanders off to harvest some tiberium
12:45.16duckiesgets a severe tiberium poisoning, dies
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13:34.21kingTDmass sun idols not upgraded is cool
13:38.10Zoldenyea, they do the sperm wave better
13:50.13grim001...
14:05.09kingTDit will take forever to play those 2 or less costing minions
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15:53.14Eph289Is anyone familiar with some of the HotS campaign data and have a few minutes to answer questions?
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16:22.14Eph289or how about just the Mutalisk weapon in general?
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16:46.32G0AZolden you should really make M&M terrain better, just adding some decals where waves go would make it look much better
16:49.08Zoldenwhat else would you add? I'd like to add some stuff, but don't know what... maybe random trees here and there?
16:49.50Zoldenalso, what kind of decal at creep sources? hitler face?
16:52.25G0A:)
16:52.41G0Aadd random bushes instead of trees
16:52.49G0Atress might be too big
16:53.00G0Ayou use hots dependency?
16:57.00Zoldenwol
16:57.08Zoldenhots affefcts loading time too much
17:01.03Zoldenbtw, images on loading screen started working after I added height and width into the tag
17:03.33G0A:D
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17:14.24kingTDgood once again those sun idols raping..
17:18.29kingTDsadly they block each other when out of range...
17:29.25kingTDand they won, sadly couldnt see them lastly own since shit had to do.
17:29.46kingTDabout 10-14 sun idols, 4-5 upped
17:29.51kingTDof those
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18:05.44duckiesG0A, not every map needs decals, and why can you see them anyway, you're supposed to be on lowest settings :D
18:06.14duckiesI agree with bushes though. bushes are cool, but they'd really stand out on that flat terrain
18:06.22duckiesbtw, M&M? :D
18:07.46Zoldenyea
18:10.05duckiesKingTD M&M?
18:13.06G0Acoming
18:14.15duckieswe just started D:
18:14.25G0Afuckers:D
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18:35.20duckiesg0a we finished
18:36.05duckiesgo play now or never touch computer games again!
18:37.39Zoldengoa play
18:40.53G0AI go sleep instead gn
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18:41.47Zoldenok\
18:41.49Zoldengn
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19:45.48ducky_HEEEELP MEH
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19:53.30ArcanePariahduckies is that you?? What you need help with?
19:53.47duckiesthat is not me
19:53.49duckiesme is me
19:54.03ArcanePariahOk, we now have 2 ducks
19:54.14ArcanePariahAnyhow, ducky_ what are you trying to do?
19:54.27ducky_<PROTECTED>
19:54.35ArcanePariahBtw, how ya doing duckies?
19:54.37ducky_<PROTECTED>
19:55.13ArcanePariahSo what is the issue?
19:55.21duckiesnostalgic sadness, yesterday I found a beloved game of my childhood on youtube
19:56.12duckieswas overjoyed to remember how awesome it was, yet saddened by the fact that it got murdered by talant-less devs who purchased trademark and made a crappy 3rd game :/
19:57.24duckiesI think I'll stop all sc2 for a while and go play disciplesII for this holiday season instead :D
19:58.20ArcanePariahWelp I think we ought to get used to it, seems all too common that sequels are disappointing since people expect a certain vision/mindset, and often a sequel is not done with that, so people don't like it :/
19:58.57ArcanePariahAnd nooooo, we need you in sc2, you are the almighty duck :(
19:59.06duckieswhy would you ever want to take a turn based strategy and turn it into a corridor (onrails) Homm corrydor grind
19:59.12duckiesthat is beyoned me
19:59.16duckies./rant
19:59.42ArcanePariahshrugs
20:02.26A1win6-3 and 5-3 arena runs today, now I'm out of gold for another D:
20:03.24A1winneed about 3 5-6 win arenas to get gold for a new one, or 1-2 runs with 7-8 wins
20:03.33A1windepending on what the random reward gives
20:04.12A1winthen there are the occasional runs where all the cards are shitty
20:04.49A1winso probably can do a free arena like once every 2 days or something, by using quest money
20:12.22ZoldenA1win is snow gone in finland too?
20:12.58A1winyeah, just a little here and there
20:13.09Zoldennot normal, right?
20:13.19A1winwas -2 a few nights ago but now it's been 0-2 or so
20:13.32A1winwell, not unheard of, but not the usual
20:13.43Zoldenmaybe global warming knows waht it's doing
20:14.17A1windunno, could be any number of reasons ;p
20:14.50A1winit's not like seasonal weather would never change even if humans didn't exist on earth
20:15.26Zoldenwell, not all of scientists think humans are the reason of climate change
20:15.34A1winmm
20:15.46Zoldenwhat I don't like is that there was snow in september, and now no snow and +6 tomorrow
20:15.50A1winthe whole planet is constantly changing, continents shifting etc.
20:16.23A1winand butterflies are fluttering their wings ;p
20:16.40Zoldenbutterflies are fluttering their butts
20:16.51A1winthey are the reason for global warming
20:17.23Zoldeni heard cows' farts are
20:17.52A1winnow that I got an overdoze of hearthstone, I don't know what I want to do D:
20:18.27Zoldeni'd say that hearthstone ppl do like my mines and magic map, you could try it
20:20.08ZoldenA1win waht about your 3dmax attempts? managed to create a new ship?
20:20.22A1winnah haven't even started
20:20.31A1winjust been playing starbound and hearthstone ;p
20:23.56kingTD200g in the bank no res to get towers :S
20:25.07kingTDheh having mass anubis doesnt worked so well against those ship fuckers
20:25.12kingTDat wave 35 or something
20:27.32ArcanePariahOk, mapmaking question, is the values for User Data the same for all players, or on a per player basis?
20:28.01ArcanePariahI want to say the same for all, since the set user data actions don't let me specify the player like catalog writes do
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20:30.30kingTDZolden ur map message for a feature  stuff renewed manually or chaning like hint message?
20:32.11Zoldencould you please reask, i din't get the subject of your question
20:32.32kingTDzolden when u will balance gameplay and other gameplay important thing u will fix like sell button for all units?
20:32.36kingTDmove the units
20:32.37kingTDand shit
20:32.57Zoldenyea, sell for all units, mines too
20:33.09ZoldenAlso move cy to not b block
20:33.11kingTDfew moments again it was glass td now Z remake that u havent updated for ages
20:33.17Zoldenalso move towerws maybe
20:33.53Zoldenjsut curious, will they play it too
20:33.57Zoldenlooks like they don
20:33.59Zolden't
20:34.14Zoldenglass was played couple of times during 2 days of being on loading screen
20:34.17Zoldenno one cares
20:34.21Zoldenor map suck balls
20:34.25Zoldenprobably both
20:34.56kingTDbtw why mixed towers fucker dont gets 3 basic res? :/
20:35.00kingTDhave 3 iron...
20:36.39Zoldenbecause i thought that each race should get only 1 race res, but which one for mixed? random
20:38.48ducky_<PROTECTED>
20:38.59ducky_restarting the map changes the sounds it works for
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20:42.15ArcanePariahAhh... I get their problem... you see, when you pass a Soundlink ID, you are asking for a Sound object in the editor. If you look at the Sound section, you will notice a sound object can have many sound files that can be played (hence the index). If you want a specific sound file length, you need to specifiy the index
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20:43.47ArcanePariahWelp, instead of setting the index to any, specify one
20:44.21ArcanePariahOtherwise it will grab a random index, and thus lead to... unpredictable behavior
20:44.24ArcanePariahBecause it may be grabbing an index that doesn't exist for that sound object and thus the duration is 0
20:46.18ArcanePariahI could be totally wrong, but that's my first impression answer
20:47.00kingTDZolden add zoom out levels
20:47.19ArcanePariahTHe other issue is that when you assign a sound link to a variable, that doesn't necessarily load the sound file into memory
20:47.33ArcanePariahSo when it goes to do the query, it isn't there
20:47.41ArcanePariahProbably gets confused and gives up
20:48.39kingTDZolden how about adding ability to change the resource node by taking it and then paying extra to change the income of it to other res?
20:48.40A1winhmm
20:48.59A1winthey've updated the new opera since I last used it, starting to have all the features I missed from the old one
20:49.18A1winmainly tab pinning and search engine customization
20:51.32A1winthe only thing I miss now is changing reload mouse gesture to "up" instead of "up, down" but I guess I can live with that ;p
21:07.17ZoldenkingTD interesting ideas both
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21:16.27MoonEaterZolden
21:16.56Zoldenhey
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21:35.06MoonEaterSorry i spaces out, Zolden, forums say that the UV on the model should be reduced
21:35.12MoonEatersince you made the model.....
21:35.17MoonEatercan you do it please?
21:42.49Zoldenjsut make yourself a model, you have max, you have art tools, it's easy, realy
21:53.54MoonEater:(
21:58.36kingTDhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9NErtIq_GQ&feature=youtu.be&t=28m27s
22:01.27Zoldenlooks like physics related games are fun
22:01.36Zoldenlike the one where you build a bridge
22:01.49Zoldenor cars
22:01.54kingTDor a mess
22:01.56kingTDgn
22:01.59Zoldengn
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22:17.21MoonEaterZolden i reformated, didnt reinstall 3ds max :(
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22:55.27A1winmeh got my 3rd arena loss at 2 wins due to a connection problem, the game got stuck on opponent's turn and I couldn't even concede
22:55.44A1winwhen I came back, arena showed 0 wins and 0 losses, no deck, but gave me the appropriate reward for 2 wins
23:07.34ZoldenMoonEater well, install it if you want your model to work
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