| 00:07.19 | Zolden | I preplaced ALOT of units for a map, and now I want to place them during the game, only for scouted areas. Is there somwhere the information stored about those preplaced units, so I could turn it into some code? |
| 00:07.58 | Tomura | there should be a XML inside your map that has that data |
| 00:11.36 | Zolden | where and how exactly to access it? |
| 00:12.23 | Tomura | I don't think you can via script. But you can save your map as Component List |
| 00:12.46 | ArcanePariah | Well... if you have a variable of type unit, and assign it a value it will let you select from the preplaced units |
| 00:13.54 | Tomura | as far as I know you want to get rid of pre placed units and only spawn them when they are needed right? |
| 00:14.22 | ArcanePariah | But if you are trying to create them in predefined spots, I would say create a User Data type with the unit and location data |
| 00:14.39 | ArcanePariah | as the fields, and then create an instance for each unit (though that would be incredibly time consuming) |
| 00:16.53 | Zolden | Tomura yea |
| 00:17.48 | Zolden | well time consuming isn't a choice |
| 00:17.54 | Zandose | unit data is stored in the compoments as Objects (open in notepad) |
| 00:18.12 | Zolden | ok, i'll check tomorrow |
| 00:18.35 | Tomura | you'd still have to script the spawning manually or create user data |
| 00:18.36 | Zandose | either use replace or make a script to filter it |
| 00:20.17 | Zolden | what's user data? |
| 00:20.24 | Zolden | like associative array? |
| 00:20.52 | Zolden | it's a separate task, to store 2k units and access them by map coordiantes |
| 00:21.37 | Tomura | well what you find in the Objects file is this: |
| 00:21.38 | Tomura | <ObjectUnit Id="17" Position="15,24,0" Rotation="2.5305" Scale="1,1,1" UnitType="DestructibleRampHorizontalHuge"/> |
| 00:21.46 | Tomura | for example |
| 00:21.58 | Tomura | you can't really access the file with script |
| 00:22.24 | Tomura | so you have to transfer the data to some place were you can access it to handle the spawning |
| 00:22.36 | Zandose | i use to use a vb program to filter it |
| 00:22.45 | Tomura | ok |
| 00:23.01 | Tomura | that should be ok |
| 00:23.15 | Zolden | yea, probably i'll make a filter program too |
| 00:23.24 | Zolden | to turn it into something galaxy would then eat |
| 00:24.35 | Zandose | i also tried using the simple replace function to cut out garbage, copied it into a string, and used the editors functions to understand and split up the information |
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| 08:18.32 | kingTD | trolololololol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpZbu7J7UL4 |
| 08:20.58 | G0A | Vice rocks http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXKjRkkoIOU |
| 08:24.46 | kingTD | ya |
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| 11:49.42 | Zolden | is it me, or unlike .tga, .dds images may not load on loading screen? |
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| 11:52.03 | kingTD | qwer |
| 11:52.36 | Zolden | dude! |
| 11:53.03 | Zolden | or I rather should ask it this way: how to "preload" an image? |
| 11:53.45 | Zolden | looks like an image I put on loading screen (as a text tag) doesn't load at first try |
| 11:56.02 | Zolden | hmm, looks like mapmakers having post-christmas hangover |
| 11:56.30 | Zolden | xxxmas |
| 12:15.09 | G0A | hehe |
| 12:15.27 | G0A | just use tga-s |
| 12:16.58 | G0A | I have tags like this on game ui data loading screen help "<img path="Randomtd\speedaura.dds" width="22" height="22"/" and they work perfectly |
| 12:17.01 | G0A | most of them dds |
| 12:20.04 | kingTD | Zolden spamming builder selection button makes cutscene replay every time. check if it currently selected and do action or not like showing this scene stuff |
| 12:20.09 | kingTD | again to renew |
| 12:22.27 | G0A | Best clip ever http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xq3srxF_B8 |
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| 12:48.35 | grim001 | ... |
| 12:56.11 | Zolden | kingTD yea, I know, but doing this would be too lazy, why should I care about impatient meth or crack smoking buttonclickers? |
| 12:56.40 | kingTD | yeah it wont fix ur broken map :/ |
| 12:56.56 | Zolden | yea |
| 12:59.47 | Zolden | omg, 90s madness |
| 13:00.09 | G0A | shit, and I wasnt there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4fyOZVLZB8 |
| 13:00.33 | G0A | good old 303 sound |
| 13:05.23 | kingTD | heh that anubbis + siege tanks worked quite well until ur teammates started not killing their waves |
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| 14:05.17 | G0A | My defense map is finished, I just need a kickass description of it |
| 14:08.06 | Zolden | http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/merleblancdb/67738234/273056/273056_original.gif |
| 14:13.09 | kingTD | ^^ |
| 14:14.39 | G0A | almost as hypnotic as Hypno Toad |
| 14:15.15 | kingTD | when ur minigame will be ready for a ride test? |
| 14:27.04 | G0A | minigame? |
| 14:28.45 | kingTD | "My defense map is finished" |
| 14:29.06 | kingTD | "minigame" by dyckies |
| 14:29.12 | kingTD | .. :D |
| 14:29.17 | kingTD | dyck |
| 14:35.19 | G0A | hmm is there a way to instantly decelerate a unit by triggers after I issue a stop order? |
| 14:35.40 | Dustin|Home | You wish |
| 14:36.07 | Dustin|Home | You can move him instantly to his current spot, that would do It I think |
| 14:37.24 | G0A | no it doesnt |
| 14:37.40 | G0A | I move it instantly, thats why I need to do that |
| 14:38.55 | Dustin|Home | Hmm interesting |
| 14:39.05 | Dustin|Home | Oh oh |
| 14:39.27 | Dustin|Home | Make a behavior that adjusts deceleration and apply it to him then order hm to stop maybe |
| 14:46.38 | kingTD | like a recall behavior |
| 14:50.38 | G0A | thx, this worked |
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| 15:16.52 | G0A | Published, under Entropy Defense name:D |
| 15:24.13 | G0A | nice http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-26/who-drinks-most-alcohol |
| 15:37.42 | kingTD | hmm well that was tiring nap |
| 15:51.45 | Dustin|Home | Anyone that doesnt have Left 4 Dead 2 yet, it's freeo n steam http://store.steampowered.com/app/550/?snr=1_7_15__13 |
| 15:53.48 | Zolden | what is another nice REM song besides Loosing My Religion? |
| 15:55.04 | Dustin|Home | Honestly, I think that's the only song they ever recorded |
| 15:56.11 | Zolden | they have a shitloads of crappy albums |
| 15:56.19 | Zolden | and like 3 nice songs |
| 15:56.50 | Dustin|Home | Sounds about right :P |
| 16:04.08 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/46/96/Nomenclature_of_StarCraft_II_Models_Custom_Animations_.pdf |
| 16:04.32 | Zolden | oh, found it, "it's the end of the world" |
| 16:04.33 | Delphinium | Wrote some thing about animation names. |
| 16:17.40 | G0A | I thought its about frogs |
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| 16:54.45 | A1win | *kahvinrakastaja |
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| 17:51.07 | Zolden | ?? |
| 17:51.22 | Zolden | ?? |
| 17:51.25 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 18:04.51 | kingTD | !! |
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| 20:20.31 | JademusSreg | ?! |
| 20:22.34 | Zandose | ¿? |
| 20:33.01 | Zandose | just to double check, text cannot be converted to strings? |
| 20:40.04 | kingTD | not sure, but if there is no script for that then u could make one that would take every letter and make actions to make the string |
| 20:43.04 | Zandose | what? theirs no functions for getting anything from text. only converting strings to text. |
| 20:43.32 | Zandose | anyways im going out now. ttyl |
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| 20:48.12 | Zolden | kingTD indeed, do you know how to bite off letters from text? |
| 20:48.57 | kingTD | there is functions to check text letters so mb that would make the string |
| 20:48.59 | kingTD | not sure |
| 20:49.33 | Zolden | kingTD how's aok rethinking going? |
| 20:49.49 | kingTD | llike and past month, not good |
| 20:50.22 | Zolden | wht if a hitler send soldiers to you and not let you do anything except fixing aok? |
| 20:50.29 | Zolden | u'd spend all time doing it |
| 20:50.34 | Zolden | wouldn't it be sweet? |
| 20:57.27 | Zolden | takes duckies dna to clone hitler |
| 20:57.38 | ArcanePariah | oh boy |
| 20:57.58 | Zolden | ho girl |
| 20:58.18 | ArcanePariah | steals zolden dna to clone... |
| 20:58.35 | ArcanePariah | realizes futility, looks for zolden time machine |
| 21:04.11 | Zolden | btw, my cat -> http://i.snag.gy/n3AN2.jpg |
| 21:05.35 | ArcanePariah | Scary, I have the same kind of cat, same color too |
| 21:09.11 | Zolden | i'd say this color is represented by dominant genes, so is frequent |
| 21:09.24 | Zolden | possibly useful to hide in grass |
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| 21:26.21 | phil__ | hey - I'm running into an issue to do with "requirements" and was wondering if anyone was able to give me some direction |
| 21:28.34 | phil__ | In short - it seems that a requirement for a command is unable to call a function - or reach into global variables. I want a command to be grayed out based on whether or not a variable is a certain number |
| 21:28.53 | phil__ | I thought my two options were to figure out how to do that via requirements - or go with triggers |
| 21:30.06 | phil__ | even if I try to gray out a command via triggers - I couldn't find which action would do that. |
| 21:38.18 | ArcanePariah | phil__ you need to use the Enable/Disable ability action |
| 21:39.01 | ArcanePariah | And yes, if you want a command to be enabled/disabled due to trigger code, you will need to use triggers for it |
| 21:52.57 | phil__ | Alright - I saw that function and became confused with one thing. Give me a sec to find it |
| 21:55.22 | phil__ | http://i.imgur.com/O8vUw5C.png |
| 21:55.28 | phil__ | (Triggering unit) |
| 21:55.35 | phil__ | Why am I unable to just select a unit? |
| 21:55.57 | phil__ | I know I had to find a function for player to convert a player number to a player group in a messaging action |
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| 22:19.50 | phil__ | Ah - it's the 'variable' option in that dialog |
| 22:20.02 | phil__ | Thanks much @ArcanePariah |
| 23:02.33 | ArcanePariah | JademusSreg are you present? |
| 23:05.26 | JademusSreg | Sorta. |
| 23:07.30 | ArcanePariah | Have a design question |
| 23:07.48 | Zolden | JademusSreg http://i.snag.gy/n3AN2.jpg |
| 23:07.54 | Zolden | my dude |
| 23:09.39 | ArcanePariah | Looking to have male/female variants of all classes, each variant will have its own portrait, soundset (responses), and alternate model. How would you go about laying the hierarchy for such a setup? My initial thought was to create a parent Male and Female unit actors with tokens for the classes, and use that to create each pair, but wonder if there is a more effective way then creating 28... |
| 23:09.40 | ArcanePariah | ...(14 classes, 2 variants) unit actors |
| 23:16.37 | JademusSreg | Zol, cute kitten. The one I rescued is hitting cat puberty, though she still nurses on my shirt. |
| 23:21.08 | phil__ | is there documentation on the concept of a "class"? I haven't read about that yet |
| 23:21.23 | JademusSreg | Arc, since portraits, models, and sound sets can be modified per actor, iirc, one could achieve it using a single actor. It's a matter of maintainability; how much time and mental effort does it take to handle the data structures based on the abstraction? |
| 23:26.18 | JademusSreg | Unless one intends to support gender-changes, not much to gain by applying gender per actor, so making an actor per gender-class combination is both straightforward and readable. |
| 23:27.17 | ArcanePariah | true, sounds like the ideal solution then |
| 23:27.27 | JademusSreg | Though if there are any other combinations to support (for example, support for every ethnicity), definitely would want to go dynamic application. |
| 23:32.57 | grim001 | ... |
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| 23:33.49 | JademusSreg | Hallo grim. |
| 23:34.10 | MoonEater916 | ?? |
| 23:34.11 | MoonEater916 | oh |
| 23:37.23 | Zolden | JademusSreg what cat puberty mean? they become even more insane? wild? |
| 23:37.41 | JademusSreg | Sex hormones. |
| 23:46.16 | MoonEater916 | Well Christmas is gone |
| 23:46.30 | MoonEater916 | time for the great sheeding of xmas shit |
| 23:49.17 | Zolden | JademusSreg what age is it happen at? and how their behaving changes? |
| 23:50.47 | grim001 | the particles look amazing now |
| 23:51.02 | JademusSreg | She was a little kitten when I rescued her, and that was near the beginning of June, which puts it at about 6 months. |
| 23:51.40 | Zolden | ok, so I have 3 more months of normal kittenry |
| 23:59.20 | MoonEater916 | SNIP SNIP |
| 23:59.53 | MoonEater916 | were i am at most pets are required to have to snip |
