| 00:00.15 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 00:05.21 | ArcanePariah | That be schrodinger (Probably fail spelled his name) |
| 00:05.32 | ArcanePariah | Need Ahli to fix it for me |
| 00:06.31 | JademusSreg | Schrödinger |
| 00:13.50 | ArcanePariah | So JademusSreg, is there any reason portrait UI frames are locked? |
| 00:14.14 | ArcanePariah | It seems to be that portraits are only allowed to be created via trigger dialogs |
| 00:14.44 | JademusSreg | There's a portrait API. |
| 00:15.06 | Kueken | ArcanePariah: Thats in general the spelling that is used for Schrödinger in countrys not having Umlauts :D |
| 00:15.35 | ArcanePariah | Ahh I see now JademusSreg. Kueken I thought I had misspelled it entirely, good to know I got it correct |
| 00:16.49 | Kueken | is it even displayed correctly? Or do you see something like Schr?dinger :D |
| 00:16.53 | JademusSreg | And they can be created via the portrait API or dialog control API, but creating portrait frames instanced via UI xml is kinda silly. |
| 00:17.18 | ArcanePariah | Kueken: it displays correctly, IRC does support UTF |
| 00:17.39 | ArcanePariah | JademusSreg: That makes sense, and thank you for pointing out to me, another aspect of the editor for me to learn now and utlizlie |
| 00:18.45 | Kueken | my client used to not display them |
| 00:19.31 | JademusSreg | Templating or hookup makes sense, and I suppose you could statically define the model and camera for a frame instanced from layouts. |
| 00:21.45 | ArcanePariah | Well Templating is what didn't work, I was not permitted to define a portrait UI frame then use it to create a dialog item from it |
| 00:22.20 | JademusSreg | I'd like to see the code and xml used. |
| 00:22.21 | ArcanePariah | But it appears that is because we already hve the Portrait API as a controlled way, and also probably because the dialog item is merely a wrapper for the exiting portrait system |
| 00:23.07 | ArcanePariah | Ok gimme a sec to recreate it |
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| 00:23.58 | Kueken | incoming: question, highlight 5 people, answer, bye |
| 00:25.13 | Deathbringer | What do I do so that everytime a unit dies, it checks if all of the specific unit are dead? |
| 00:25.58 | ArcanePariah | On unit death |
| 00:26.02 | ArcanePariah | will be your event |
| 00:26.15 | ArcanePariah | You will create a variable of type "Unit Type" |
| 00:26.17 | Kueken | aw, you ruined it |
| 00:26.31 | ArcanePariah | And for it, set it to the Unit Type of the triggering unit |
| 00:26.45 | ArcanePariah | then do an if else |
| 00:27.03 | ArcanePariah | and check if the number of units in a unit group consisting of all units of that type for any player equals 0 |
| 00:27.33 | ArcanePariah | JademusSreg: Here is my UI XML |
| 00:27.34 | ArcanePariah | http://pastebin.com/s99S5byV |
| 00:28.17 | ArcanePariah | Here is my trigger code |
| 00:28.19 | ArcanePariah | http://pastebin.com/dRqb03W5 |
| 00:28.55 | Deathbringer | =============CURRENTLY HIRING NEW MODERATORS FOR FREE!================= Apply in the forums of the website! |
| 00:28.57 | Deathbringer | Oops lol |
| 00:28.59 | Deathbringer | Wrong one |
| 00:29.05 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:29.06 | Deathbringer | Here |
| 00:29.10 | Deathbringer | This it? |
| 00:29.24 | ArcanePariah | Sure, if you are only testing for one unit type |
| 00:29.29 | Deathbringer | I am |
| 00:30.19 | ArcanePariah | That checks for one, you want to check for all units that possibly of that type. You need to look at Units in region function |
| 00:30.37 | Deathbringer | I just need it for one specific unit |
| 00:30.41 | Deathbringer | Which is that |
| 00:30.45 | Deathbringer | So now what? |
| 00:30.58 | ArcanePariah | And when I run that JademusSreg, it gives "Cannon create Test because frames of type Portrait are makred as Blizzard Only" |
| 00:31.08 | JademusSreg | Hah, figures. |
| 00:31.26 | ArcanePariah | So it appears Portraits MUST go through the established API |
| 00:31.40 | ArcanePariah | And dialog items are simply wrappers/conveninces |
| 00:31.52 | Kueken | so the JademusSreg Portrait Frame is Blizzard-only? |
| 00:31.54 | ArcanePariah | allowing portraits to be placed in panles |
| 00:31.57 | Kueken | interesting |
| 00:32.02 | Deathbringer | Now what? |
| 00:33.10 | ArcanePariah | Deathbringer: I do not understand your question, your thing checks if the unit type of the trigging unit is of the correct type, now you need to check if all units of that type on the map are dead. so you need to use the Units in Region function, using the entire map, the function takes a unit type as an argument |
| 00:33.25 | JademusSreg | There may be a work around, but between the dialog controls and portrait API, custom portrait frame definitons probably aren't necessary. |
| 00:33.26 | Deathbringer | Oh yeah |
| 00:33.35 | Deathbringer | I thought you meant just that TYPE of unit |
| 00:33.54 | Deathbringer | I mean I thought you meant I needed more than one of the type |
| 00:34.19 | Deathbringer | So If then else? |
| 00:34.23 | JademusSreg | Defining a Portrait frame template and a Frame which uses the template could be used to circumvent the Blizzlock. |
| 00:35.09 | ArcanePariah | So JademusSreg, encapsulating the portrait frame? |
| 00:35.15 | JademusSreg | But one would only need to do so if one wants to define a portrait with different default features. |
| 00:35.42 | JademusSreg | Naw, not as a subframe, but rather exploiting inheritance. |
| 00:35.50 | ArcanePariah | Yes thats what I meant |
| 00:35.58 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:36.16 | ArcanePariah | You exploit the fact that only the actual frame instation is protected, not the instatiation of the child objects |
| 00:36.42 | Deathbringer | Okay so do I do the "If then else" function? |
| 00:36.53 | ArcanePariah | Well I don't know what you are trying to do |
| 00:37.05 | ArcanePariah | I thought you wanted to check in order to do something |
| 00:38.15 | ArcanePariah | Deathbringer: I can not directly walk you through this, you either need to narrow the scope of your question or be more explicit about what you are trying to accomplish. |
| 00:38.41 | Deathbringer | Okay we already got the condition part down |
| 00:38.42 | ArcanePariah | I can give you the one line condtion statement that will check if a given unit type is all dead on the map |
| 00:39.04 | Deathbringer | Now I just need for it to check if that specific type of unit is dead. |
| 00:39.15 | Deathbringer | All of those specific units |
| 00:40.32 | ArcanePariah | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:40.42 | ArcanePariah | Replace the Any part with the unit type you need |
| 00:42.38 | Deathbringer | What function is that? |
| 00:43.21 | ArcanePariah | The outer function is Number of Units in Unit Group |
| 00:43.34 | ArcanePariah | for the group, I used another fucntion Units in Region Matching Condition |
| 00:44.04 | ArcanePariah | Remember, you can call functions withing function calls |
| 00:44.28 | ArcanePariah | As long the function returns the value sought by the outer function call, it will work |
| 00:45.33 | Deathbringer | Units in unit group right? |
| 00:46.59 | ArcanePariah | Number of Units in Unit Group* |
| 00:47.40 | Deathbringer | How do you get Entire map? |
| 00:48.07 | ArcanePariah | First, do you have the units in unit group? |
| 00:48.13 | ArcanePariah | Number of units in unit group? |
| 00:48.15 | ArcanePariah | * |
| 00:48.31 | ArcanePariah | Start with that |
| 00:49.10 | ArcanePariah | Now, for that function, it should let you choose the unit group |
| 00:49.34 | ArcanePariah | when you click on it, to choose the unit group, instead of using a variable or value, click on function |
| 00:51.02 | Deathbringer | Yes |
| 00:51.31 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah I already have the function. |
| 00:51.35 | ArcanePariah | Ok |
| 00:51.46 | Deathbringer | Now |
| 00:51.48 | Deathbringer | ?? |
| 00:51.58 | ArcanePariah | So for unit group, use the function Units in Region Matching Condition |
| 00:52.18 | ArcanePariah | As part of it, it allows you to choose the region (which by default is entire map, but you can use others ofc) |
| 00:54.14 | Deathbringer | Okay so how do I pick the specific unit now? |
| 00:54.17 | Deathbringer | Just as |
| 00:54.23 | Deathbringer | Marine, Ghost, Zealot |
| 00:54.37 | Zolden | I can hardly distinguish who says what because your nicknames have equal length |
| 00:54.58 | ArcanePariah | You see the part for Any units? |
| 00:55.03 | ArcanePariah | Click on the Any part |
| 00:55.09 | ArcanePariah | it lets you specify the unit type |
| 00:55.32 | ArcanePariah | Zolden: Intersting observation |
| 00:57.02 | Deathbringer | Wait |
| 00:57.05 | Deathbringer | I dont see Any part |
| 00:57.23 | Deathbringer | Oh you mean |
| 00:57.31 | Deathbringer | Any amount? |
| 00:57.39 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah |
| 00:58.17 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 00:58.20 | ArcanePariah | Any Amount |
| 00:58.23 | ArcanePariah | No |
| 00:58.25 | ArcanePariah | wait |
| 00:58.27 | ArcanePariah | thats the count |
| 00:58.31 | ArcanePariah | Back up |
| 00:58.46 | ArcanePariah | It should say Any Units in (Entire Map) |
| 00:58.49 | ArcanePariah | the Any part |
| 00:58.52 | JademusSreg | Zol, my client is configured to tint handles, color coded by type. |
| 00:59.03 | ArcanePariah | should be selectable |
| 00:59.09 | ArcanePariah | So what Color did I win JademusSreg ? |
| 00:59.18 | ArcanePariah | hopes it teal or blue |
| 00:59.57 | JademusSreg | Red for modelers, pink for designers, purple for programmers, blue for SC2-related technical competence. |
| 01:00.07 | JademusSreg | And yes, you are blue. |
| 01:00.44 | Deathbringer | Oh I see it |
| 01:00.58 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah |
| 01:01.04 | Deathbringer | What function do I pick from "Any"? |
| 01:01.14 | ArcanePariah | Just select the value of the unit type you wanted |
| 01:01.27 | JademusSreg | (And only people on the list can "ping" or highlight my client.) |
| 01:01.50 | ArcanePariah | I'm curious, what places someone in Blue vs purple? |
| 01:02.19 | ArcanePariah | Seems to be techincally competent, one needs coding experience? |
| 01:02.41 | JademusSreg | Blue is SC2-specific. Purple is programming generally. |
| 01:02.56 | ArcanePariah | Hmm... can I opt for blue/purple? |
| 01:02.59 | ArcanePariah | :D |
| 01:03.40 | ArcanePariah | Hmm... blue/purple = violet?? |
| 01:03.44 | JademusSreg | You are blue, opt satisfied. |
| 01:03.47 | ArcanePariah | No wait, thats wrong |
| 01:03.59 | ArcanePariah | purple is just equal blue/red |
| 01:04.11 | ArcanePariah | so more blue is.... navy blue? |
| 01:05.01 | JademusSreg | If I interpret it literally, it would be vector division. |
| 01:06.46 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 01:07.22 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:07.25 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah |
| 01:07.29 | Deathbringer | How do I make it so |
| 01:07.33 | Deathbringer | Player = All Players |
| 01:07.45 | ArcanePariah | Pick each player loop |
| 01:07.52 | ArcanePariah | and for the player group, use All Players |
| 01:08.52 | Deathbringer | Pick each player? |
| 01:08.56 | Deathbringer | You mean Picked Player? |
| 01:09.14 | Zolden | wow |
| 01:09.30 | Zolden | i should invent my own color system to mark everybody |
| 01:10.30 | ArcanePariah | Place your camara statement inside a pick each player loop and change Player to picked player |
| 01:10.58 | ArcanePariah | afk |
| 01:15.28 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah |
| 01:15.38 | Deathbringer | How do I make it so it does it for any unit they own? |
| 01:19.21 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah |
| 01:34.54 | Kueken | impatient fellow, isn't he? |
| 01:35.35 | Zandose | ^i use to be him in wc3 |
| 01:37.10 | JademusSreg | In SC1, learned "don't hype". In WC3, "do the research". |
| 01:48.20 | Zandose | i started in wc3 and i did look for the answer before asking but the stuff i wanted to know didnt exist |
| 02:19.37 | JademusSreg | "I do not know what I may appear to the world, but to myself I seem to have been only like a boy playing on the sea-shore, and diverting myself in now and then finding a smoother pebble or a prettier shell than ordinary, whilst the great ocean of truth lay all undiscovered before me." Lord Issac Newton, regarding his limitless ultimate power over reality. |
| 02:21.36 | JademusSreg | How serendipitous this would be his personal coat of arms: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1a/ENG_COA_Newton.svg |
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| 02:24.20 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah you there? |
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| 02:26.18 | Deathbringer | ArcanePariah you there? |
| 02:27.01 | Deathbringer | Kueken |
| 02:27.11 | Deathbringer | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:27.26 | Deathbringer | How do I make it so it unfollows any unit they are following |
| 02:27.34 | Kueken | wonders where JademusSreg excavates these words |
| 02:27.44 | Kueken | sorry, I have to go |
| 02:28.16 | Kueken | but I am sure, there are a lot of capable people here who can help you |
| 02:28.22 | Kueken | good night |
| 02:28.25 | Deathbringer | Cya |
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| 03:10.31 | Bounty | pew |
| 03:11.23 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 03:12.36 | Bounty | hmm? |
| 03:14.32 | JademusSreg | Just finding fault with an idea I had. Entertaining alternatives. |
| 03:39.03 | JademusSreg | Using physicists as characters isn't quite sensible, since science tends to be incremental in its development. Tragic, but that seals its fate. |
| 03:58.27 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
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| 04:40.12 | JademusSreg | Hm, 227KiB worth of characters in unicode. Wonder if SC2 editor will tolerate it. |
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| 05:50.43 | Deathbringer | Jademussreg |
| 05:50.49 | Deathbringer | Would you be able to help me out |
| 05:50.50 | Deathbringer | ? |
| 05:56.20 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 06:01.39 | JademusSreg | wonders if "Dårk Dungeon" is a sufficiently subtle joke. |
| 06:08.01 | DeadZergling | considering the questions deathbringer had, is no wonder his map played as it did |
| 06:08.15 | DeadZergling | somehow got invited to play that one earlier today |
| 06:10.43 | DeadZergling | wandering around with limited vision as a marine with a flashlight, barely able to kill one monster alone, not enough movement speed to micro it, just didn't impress me a whole lot |
| 06:10.57 | DeadZergling | this for that demon game, JademusSreg ? |
| 06:14.13 | JademusSreg | Naw, smaller project. |
| 06:19.29 | JademusSreg | The name's joke involves the diacritic: in Danish/Norwegian, long å is pronounced /ɔː/. |
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| 06:21.25 | DeadZergling | Hello Delphinium |
| 06:23.59 | DeadZergling | been having fun playing with those models lately :) |
| 06:30.55 | DeadZergling | need Bounty to pop on so I can ignore putting in the skill tree for my last class |
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| 06:32.15 | Bounty | Kapow |
| 06:32.24 | DeadZergling | just who I was looking for |
| 06:32.49 | Bounty | What do you require? :) |
| 06:33.09 | DeadZergling | distraction, I have little excuse not to work on my skill tree for my last class now |
| 06:33.18 | DeadZergling | but damnit, I don't want to |
| 06:33.21 | Bounty | Oh |
| 06:33.35 | Bounty | So you want me to present something to distract you? |
| 06:33.47 | DeadZergling | pretty much, lol |
| 06:33.58 | Bounty | You are in lucky tonight my friend |
| 06:34.04 | DeadZergling | I was able to get an 8 player test of my map earlier tonight |
| 06:34.07 | Bounty | I just got done watching Saving Private Ryan |
| 06:34.27 | DeadZergling | oh, did Private Ryan make it this time? |
| 06:34.30 | Bounty | Still a great movie, but is it just me or is this movie full of american propaganda? |
| 06:34.38 | Bounty | >.< |
| 06:34.47 | DeadZergling | what do you mean? |
| 06:35.03 | Bounty | Quite simple really |
| 06:35.10 | Bounty | The taunting of german PoW's |
| 06:35.18 | Bounty | as if they wanted any part in that war lol |
| 06:35.39 | Bounty | and it shows what happens when you let a PoW go |
| 06:35.43 | Bounty | he comes back and kills you |
| 06:35.57 | Bounty | Says a lot about the country today IMO |
| 06:36.07 | Bounty | That and, as I continue to say |
| 06:36.15 | DeadZergling | except that one guy who wanted to let him go, right? |
| 06:36.24 | Bounty | American had nothing to do with winning WW2 aside from financial |
| 06:36.38 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 06:36.46 | Bounty | Which was the right thing to do |
| 06:37.04 | Bounty | but you know, of course, that one guy ironically comes back to kill Tom Hanks |
| 06:37.09 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:37.28 | DeadZergling | oh I dunno, thought bombing tokyo |
| 06:37.32 | DeadZergling | err excuse me |
| 06:37.35 | DeadZergling | Hiroshima |
| 06:37.37 | Bounty | yeah, you know |
| 06:37.40 | DeadZergling | was a fairly important part |
| 06:37.51 | Bounty | because we had nothing to do with the Japanese attacking us |
| 06:37.57 | Bounty | they just did it on the flip of a coin |
| 06:37.58 | Bounty | right? |
| 06:38.24 | Bounty | I'll make you a deal DeadZergling |
| 06:38.47 | Bounty | If you want this conversation, if you can prove me wrong on something I will accept it, but you have to do the same :) |
| 06:38.57 | Bounty | I'm willing to learn |
| 06:39.17 | DeadZergling | sure, but this could go very poorly, you know from earlier my thoughts on history |
| 06:39.27 | Bounty | Its easy really |
| 06:39.34 | Bounty | a simple google search |
| 06:39.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:40.10 | Bounty | There is a reason Russia Celebrates the victory of WW2 every year and we do not |
| 06:40.22 | DeadZergling | exactly why was it our fault for pearl harbor? |
| 06:41.36 | Bounty | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=did+america+provoke+pearl+harbor |
| 06:42.06 | Bounty | economic warfare |
| 06:45.42 | DeadZergling | Okay, but that is a little too easy, so we try to cut off their resources, but it doesn't really go into the why |
| 06:46.05 | Bounty | Its really simple, you can even break it down into morality |
| 06:46.20 | Bounty | we knew the germans were exterminating the jews way before we got into WW2 |
| 06:46.42 | Bounty | and that eastern Europe needed our help |
| 06:46.45 | Bounty | and we did nothing lol |
| 06:47.02 | Bounty | Just let the Soviets take the brunt of the War for us to come in like the heroes at the end |
| 06:47.55 | Bounty | *shrug* I just hate that BS about how we're invincible and always win |
| 06:48.17 | DeadZergling | I never heard it that way |
| 06:48.27 | DeadZergling | I heard of us being under-equipped |
| 06:48.33 | DeadZergling | we shouldn't have won |
| 06:48.39 | Bounty | You never heard of the Eastern Front? |
| 06:48.58 | Bounty | I do not recall the %'s but most of the Nazi Army was fighting the Russians lol |
| 06:49.00 | Bounty | and they won |
| 06:49.03 | Bounty | and captured Berlin |
| 06:49.14 | Bounty | and met up with us there |
| 06:49.36 | Bounty | Soviets would have won the war regardless, just would have taken awhile longer and then Stalin would have controlled Europe |
| 06:49.48 | Bounty | Which would have been a bad thing lol |
| 06:50.21 | Bounty | It really is a good read DeadZergling |
| 06:50.38 | Bounty | WW2 is way more interesting than history teachers and WW2 shooters make it out to be |
| 06:50.48 | Bounty | You don't even need to mention Hitler lol |
| 06:51.42 | DeadZergling | suppose, any history I read |
| 06:51.46 | DeadZergling | I just find out everyone is a bad guy |
| 06:52.04 | Bounty | I mean, there are degrees |
| 06:52.12 | Bounty | Obviously in WW2 the Nazi's were #1 bad guy |
| 06:52.15 | Bounty | but |
| 06:52.21 | Bounty | and this is my theory |
| 06:52.35 | Bounty | I think we got into WW2 just so we could prevent the Soviets from taking over Europe |
| 06:52.57 | Bounty | then came the Cold War ironically lol |
| 06:56.00 | DeadZergling | maybe, more I hear about US origins, more I hate all countries in existence |
| 06:56.07 | Bounty | Yeah |
| 06:56.17 | Bounty | Its all BS lol |
| 06:56.32 | Bounty | World Government is the future, hopefully for the better of us all |
| 06:57.18 | Bounty | Would be LOL if Stewox were here to see me say that btw |
| 06:57.31 | DeadZergling | as terrible as the world is, I think all of it being under one government is the worst thing that could happen to it |
| 06:58.06 | DeadZergling | the revolts wouldn't take long |
| 06:58.06 | Bounty | I agree |
| 06:58.18 | Bounty | In its current state it would be horrible |
| 06:58.20 | Bounty | but |
| 06:58.28 | Bounty | the future is one of two options |
| 06:58.50 | Bounty | Self Annihilation or Planetary Government |
| 06:59.21 | Bounty | Hopefully the latter does not suck |
| 06:59.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 06:59.53 | DeadZergling | I just don't think it'd last |
| 07:00.00 | Bounty | I was watching Saving Private Ryan and it really hit me like a ton of bricks |
| 07:00.11 | Bounty | Obviously there are more examples of this but |
| 07:00.41 | Bounty | Just how we perceive ourselves as Americans VS other cultures, its always "What? I can't understand your language *pew pew* dead" |
| 07:00.56 | Bounty | I don't think its any coincidence that is how most people think nowadays lol |
| 07:01.13 | Bounty | I still like the movie btw |
| 07:01.14 | Bounty | haha |
| 07:02.53 | DeadZergling | could explain why every country seems to know english somehow |
| 07:03.32 | Bounty | Random question DeadZergling |
| 07:03.40 | Bounty | is there a uniform IQ scale? |
| 07:03.50 | DeadZergling | doubtful |
| 07:03.54 | Bounty | lame |
| 07:04.05 | Bounty | I got 128 |
| 07:04.06 | DeadZergling | take people in sports |
| 07:04.19 | DeadZergling | some consider them geniuses |
| 07:04.20 | Bounty | Which is not Einstein level, but decent lol |
| 07:04.36 | Bounty | Yeah, I read they do not count creativity into intelligence |
| 07:04.59 | DeadZergling | I doubt they take making good sport plays in quick time in stride either |
| 07:05.05 | Bounty | Half of the test I had no idea what the hell was going on lol |
| 07:05.22 | Bounty | Seems more based on perception |
| 07:05.38 | Bounty | patterns etc |
| 07:06.40 | DeadZergling | probably also depends a lot on what the test writers perceive to = IQ |
| 07:06.57 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:07.06 | Bounty | Thankfully most of mine are in the same range |
| 07:07.16 | DeadZergling | you have seen Men in Black before? |
| 07:07.23 | Bounty | But the majority are based on patterns/perception |
| 07:07.30 | Bounty | some are just basic quiz questions |
| 07:07.32 | Bounty | of course |
| 07:07.42 | DeadZergling | love the part where the Fresh Prince pulls the table |
| 07:07.45 | Bounty | Saw that shit in theaters |
| 07:07.47 | DeadZergling | he wins all tests right there |
| 07:07.50 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:08.03 | Bounty | dude |
| 07:08.05 | Bounty | Ironically |
| 07:08.10 | Bounty | those were the most difficult questions |
| 07:08.19 | Bounty | Its like ok, this is what I would do |
| 07:08.21 | Bounty | but |
| 07:08.24 | Bounty | is it proper? |
| 07:08.28 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:08.43 | Bounty | So based on that scale, intelligent is "fuck it" |
| 07:08.56 | DeadZergling | hard to say, doubt I'll ever take what is considered a 'real' IQ test |
| 07:09.12 | DeadZergling | I know all that will happen is I get offended |
| 07:09.16 | DeadZergling | so what's the point of that, lol |
| 07:09.23 | Bounty | nah, its pretty fun |
| 07:09.37 | Bounty | thats coming from me |
| 07:09.41 | DeadZergling | I consider not getting 100 a failure though |
| 07:09.48 | Bounty | I expected to score like Einstein because i have a huge ego |
| 07:09.51 | DeadZergling | I take lower numbers personally |
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| 07:10.05 | Bounty | I got 1280, which is superior |
| 07:10.08 | Bounty | err 128* |
| 07:10.13 | Bounty | not a genius |
| 07:10.17 | Bounty | but good |
| 07:10.21 | DeadZergling | 100 is average i thought |
| 07:10.21 | Bounty | I'm happy with that lol |
| 07:10.24 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:10.27 | Bounty | 100 is average |
| 07:10.48 | Bounty | It only goes up to 175 |
| 07:10.54 | Bounty | Einstein got a 160 I believe |
| 07:11.03 | Bounty | Which was my goal, obviously I missed lol |
| 07:11.37 | DeadZergling | When did you decide you needed to take this? |
| 07:12.49 | Bounty | Awhile ago |
| 07:13.02 | Bounty | I just remembered it tonight, brought it up to the wife out of nowhere |
| 07:13.25 | Bounty | Like I said, I'm happy with 128 lol |
| 07:13.36 | Bounty | Even with an ego :) |
| 07:14.49 | Bounty | but like we discussed earlier, IQ tests really mean nothing |
| 07:14.52 | DeadZergling | Most days anyways, huh |
| 07:14.53 | Bounty | More of an epeen thing |
| 07:15.02 | Bounty | if you score very high at least |
| 07:15.03 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:15.52 | Bounty | This is a very short version of it http://www.iq-test.com/free-iq-test/ |
| 07:15.56 | DeadZergling | Suppose, don't see IQ scores in many resumes |
| 07:16.06 | Bounty | Othe one I did was an hour |
| 07:16.37 | DeadZergling | Know I've done something similar, some free online IQ thing |
| 07:16.37 | Bounty | o0o |
| 07:16.39 | Bounty | I found it |
| 07:16.41 | Bounty | http://iqtest.dk/main.swf |
| 07:16.45 | DeadZergling | 140ish is what I got |
| 07:16.48 | Bounty | This was the most difficult one I ever did |
| 07:16.54 | Bounty | try it lol |
| 07:17.05 | Bounty | Makes you feel like Einstein at first |
| 07:25.06 | Bounty | Anyways, I was playing Mafia after the Arcade Night event last night, and I chose the name Blizzard Employee and they lynched me because of Diablo 3 |
| 07:36.30 | DeadZergling | hate when it doesn't show my choice |
| 07:36.32 | DeadZergling | lol |
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| 07:48.06 | DeadZergling | gotten to the who knows wtf is going on zone I think |
| 07:52.34 | DeadZergling | why because of diablo 3? |
| 07:52.53 | Bounty | no idea |
| 07:53.04 | DeadZergling | these last few patterns |
| 07:53.11 | DeadZergling | make no fucking sense whatsoever |
| 07:56.33 | DeadZergling | Hahaha, love how condescending the results are |
| 07:56.53 | DeadZergling | The red Area beneath the curve indicates teh part of the population with an IQ lower than your own. |
| 07:57.44 | Bounty | It is a difficult test |
| 07:57.47 | Bounty | at the end |
| 07:57.48 | DeadZergling | Got 118 in my ability to click on shapes anyways |
| 07:57.52 | Bounty | like I said, so easy in the start |
| 07:57.58 | Bounty | makes you feel like a fucking genius |
| 07:58.03 | Bounty | then it gets into WTF territory |
| 07:58.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:58.18 | DeadZergling | yea, you start to wonder if it goes top to bottom or left to right on some of those |
| 07:58.25 | DeadZergling | the illustrations could be better |
| 07:58.33 | Bounty | yeah |
| 07:58.42 | Bounty | some of them are diagonal |
| 07:58.48 | Bounty | tripped me up a bit |
| 07:58.53 | Bounty | some of them are just all over |
| 07:58.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:59.02 | DeadZergling | yea, but when the easy ones start off |
| 07:59.06 | DeadZergling | top to bottom |
| 07:59.14 | DeadZergling | unless indicated otherwise, is no reason to think it changes |
| 07:59.26 | Bounty | yeah but its like the MIB test lol |
| 07:59.34 | DeadZergling | I had about 5 or so where my answer wasn't one of the choices |
| 07:59.35 | Bounty | thinking outside the box |
| 07:59.44 | Bounty | I only got 128 so I got nothing to brag about haha |
| 07:59.58 | Bounty | I had a few of those |
| 08:00.47 | DeadZergling | I remember doing a Math test before signing up for Army for awhile |
| 08:00.58 | DeadZergling | the hard part for me was figuring out which key meant the answer |
| 08:01.24 | DeadZergling | don't even get me started on scantrons |
| 08:02.34 | Bounty | I am horrible at math |
| 08:02.47 | Bounty | which is most likely the only reason I did not score as retard |
| 08:02.50 | Bounty | no math questions |
| 08:02.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 08:02.55 | Delphinium | Winter is coming…… |
| 08:03.00 | Delphinium | And I feel frozen... |
| 08:03.00 | Bounty | Winter? |
| 08:03.02 | Bounty | psh |
| 08:03.06 | Bounty | We just had 2 snow storms |
| 08:03.10 | Bounty | and its going to be 70 degrees |
| 08:03.14 | Bounty | in a few days |
| 08:03.18 | Bounty | HOW BOUT DAT CLIMATE CHANGE? |
| 08:03.19 | DeadZergling | New Jersey opinion doesn't count |
| 08:03.26 | DeadZergling | you have a protective layer of trash |
| 08:03.33 | DeadZergling | to shelter you from the elements |
| 08:03.44 | JademusSreg | Zorp. |
| 08:03.50 | Delphinium | Frogs in your city must have a very hard time... |
| 08:04.00 | Bounty | I love how people hate on NJ |
| 08:04.03 | Bounty | and ignore the South |
| 08:04.05 | JademusSreg | Me too. |
| 08:04.17 | DeadZergling | Was just an easy one :) |
| 08:04.25 | Bounty | Look at California |
| 08:04.28 | Bounty | ffs |
| 08:04.46 | Bounty | If we're the armpit, Cali is the stinky vag of failed actresses |
| 08:04.49 | DeadZergling | The State I hope gets separated from the US by violent earthquake? |
| 08:05.00 | JademusSreg | For instance: http://youtu.be/Glm3o7MWg_k |
| 08:05.21 | DeadZergling | more people like stinky vags, though |
| 08:05.30 | Bounty | lol there is nothing wrong with any state |
| 08:05.44 | Bounty | If you take the majority of any state, most of them are morons |
| 08:05.46 | Bounty | >.< |
| 08:06.29 | DeadZergling | Delphinium, question about your blood splat model, what was it intended for ? When I use it, it only really shows half the time. |
| 08:07.29 | Bounty | Also, Hello JademusSreg! You missed our discussion on WW2 |
| 08:08.09 | Bounty | We concluded, India started it |
| 08:08.14 | DeadZergling | Bounty did most the discussing, I just said a few things as I listened to Ninja Turtle Music |
| 08:08.30 | Delphinium | Excuse me, but I don't have any blood splat model, the one in the Nanakey's mod, isn't a really a splat model 0.0 |
| 08:08.43 | Bounty | Psh, last time I help you with passing the time |
| 08:08.45 | JademusSreg | No worries, imagine I would have regarded as inane and uninformed. |
| 08:08.45 | DeadZergling | well, the blood model, lol |
| 08:09.07 | DeadZergling | Just saying Bounty, you have a lot more thoughts on the matter than I do :) |
| 08:09.22 | Bounty | I think that goes for any subject, vs anyone |
| 08:09.29 | Bounty | which is not always good |
| 08:09.31 | Bounty | >.< |
| 08:09.44 | Bounty | I got 9 points on yo ass |
| 08:09.51 | Bounty | KNEEL |
| 08:10.05 | Delphinium | It's used to paint the screen with blood. I can separate a blood splat model from the blizzard's models for you. |
| 08:10.05 | DeadZergling | care to go into a Math one? |
| 08:10.11 | Bounty | nope |
| 08:10.13 | DeadZergling | see who needs to kneel |
| 08:10.15 | Bounty | I don't feel like kneeling |
| 08:10.24 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 08:10.26 | DeadZergling | that is why I will never take a real one |
| 08:10.27 | Bounty | Math is all bullshit anyways |
| 08:10.41 | DeadZergling | doesn't really say anything |
| 08:10.43 | Bounty | Its a conspiracy from the Masons to make us believe in numbers so that we vote for Republicans |
| 08:10.47 | Bounty | saw it on Alex Jones |
| 08:11.16 | DeadZergling | oh, so that is what it is used for, I was using it as a blood splatter on death model |
| 08:11.22 | DeadZergling | it doesn't do too bad in that department either |
| 08:11.31 | DeadZergling | just not visible half the time |
| 08:12.01 | DeadZergling | Alex Jones is a funny guy to listen to |
| 08:12.24 | Delphinium | there should be some blood models in the blizzard's mod I think, but make a new one won't cost much time. |
| 08:12.33 | JademusSreg | Dårk Dungeon will be the gratest map evar. By which I mean it will be extremely grating. |
| 08:12.37 | Delphinium | Plz give me few minutes. |
| 08:12.44 | DeadZergling | isn't a problem Delph, I was only curious :) |
| 08:13.24 | JademusSreg | Delph, yes, and those models strangely use height textures where I guess they intended to you normals? |
| 08:13.41 | JademusSreg | *to use |
| 08:13.42 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 08:13.57 | DeadZergling | I understood your silly Super Saiyan video after seeing a whole hour of Alex Jones on the youtube |
| 08:14.03 | DeadZergling | he gets mad, a LOT |
| 08:14.42 | JademusSreg | Also amusing, has some quotable bits: http://youtu.be/NHar3DQy8pk |
| 08:15.38 | DeadZergling | I was also curious if you had any other models like that Cow Model Delphinium, the sheer number of animations is amazing |
| 08:15.58 | DeadZergling | Especially for use with say, a melee type character |
| 08:16.56 | Delphinium | the height texutres is very special I guess (they can change the mesh while the normal map only change the light angle), I mostl use normal map only when texture units models. |
| 08:17.56 | DeadZergling | Gonna spend a couple weeks on that sort of thing when I get to polishing my project |
| 08:18.32 | JademusSreg | I just think it a strange choice on the blood splat. Makes sense on the building death models, to make the ground appear cratered. |
| 08:18.38 | DeadZergling | love this comment |
| 08:18.40 | DeadZergling | Travis White2 months ago I agree with not wanting to be alive and kicking in jersy |
| 08:18.47 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 08:19.57 | DeadZergling | Hi G0A, what other maps ended up getting played? |
| 08:20.19 | DeadZergling | The cord from a side fan got stuck in my CPU fan, was a real bad situation, good thing I turned my computer off right away, lol |
| 08:21.55 | G0A | where is Stewox? http://www.harrisinteractive.com/NewsRoom/HarrisPolls/tabid/447/ctl/ReadCustom%20Default/mid/1508/ArticleId/1353/Default.aspx .) |
| 08:22.30 | G0A | DeadZergling I left after Speed kings so dont know |
| 08:22.40 | Delphinium | I agreed, the blood splat doesn't need to bump/hollow the terrain. |
| 08:23.28 | DeadZergling | I scaled monsters back on stuff, hopefully enough |
| 08:23.36 | DeadZergling | they only gain 10 % damage per player, so not too bad |
| 08:24.21 | DeadZergling | scaled down their hp boost too |
| 08:24.57 | G0A | haha: " Nearly 4 in 10 Americans (39%) think He is male, while only 1% of U.S. adults believe She is female. However, notable minorities believe God is neither male nor female (31%) or both male and female (10%)." |
| 08:24.58 | Delphinium | --> Deadzergling if you mean the Gamon model, I think I will make a group of new animations today or tommorrow. |
| 08:25.39 | DeadZergling | yea, was just curious if you had other models like that, the things you can do with that amount of animations is pretty huge |
| 08:25.47 | DeadZergling | sounds good in any case :) |
| 08:26.42 | Delphinium | I have gotten requests from a team, and we are planning added huge number of animations to many other models such as marines zealot and so on. |
| 08:29.44 | Delphinium | I may need few more days, technologically most animations in wow models can be exported and recreated on most SC2 models. |
| 08:30.02 | Delphinium | We should THANKS printIn and his excellent works. |
| 08:30.55 | JademusSreg | This is interesting. Splats can be forced to render on to objects which typically don't support it if a transparent surface intersects vision. |
| 08:31.13 | Bounty | 0,1,1,2,3,5,8,13,-,34,55 |
| 08:31.19 | Bounty | whats the fillin for - |
| 08:31.31 | Bounty | fill in* |
| 08:32.23 | DeadZergling | 21 |
| 08:32.29 | Delphinium | Fibonacci Sequence |
| 08:32.45 | DeadZergling | *Buzzer beeps* Sorry Delph, wrong question! |
| 08:32.54 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 08:33.21 | JademusSreg | Not any transparent, but some. Definitely works if those which are intended for use as terrain. |
| 08:34.13 | JademusSreg | And the fibonacci sequence is easy, easy enough to calculate while thoroughly drunk. |
| 08:34.40 | Bounty | Not for those of us who never learned it |
| 08:34.57 | Bounty | The only time I never heard it mentioned was in the Davinci Code |
| 08:35.10 | DeadZergling | suppose, I understood how it worked before ever hearing what a fibonacci was called though |
| 08:35.43 | DeadZergling | yep, an epic movie of Jesus Picture photoshopping |
| 08:35.47 | Delphinium | Actually, I just finished the splat blood models, do you still need them? |
| 08:36.00 | DeadZergling | more blood never hurts Delphinium :) |
| 08:36.14 | JademusSreg | The DaVinci Code: Dan Brown's monument to research failure. |
| 08:37.14 | Bounty | What? that movie is no fact? |
| 08:37.40 | DeadZergling | the whole book/movie sure liked to crap things together and have them mean something suddenly |
| 08:38.17 | DeadZergling | is like me eating chili, having violent, problems |
| 08:38.28 | DeadZergling | it somehow results in a smiley face formation on the living room carpet |
| 08:38.37 | DeadZergling | this means chili makes me feel really happy inside! |
| 08:39.01 | DeadZergling | is how I felt about the clue gathering on that, anyways... |
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| 08:42.40 | DeadZergling | nice Delphinium |
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| 08:48.19 | Delphinium | OMG |
| 08:48.20 | Delphinium | http://world.time.com/2013/12/04/china-is-cheating-the-world-student-rankings-system/ |
| 08:49.08 | Delphinium | I don't know why American think that... |
| 08:50.51 | Delphinium | All the test questions are only primary three level in China, but they used to test 15 years old students. |
| 08:52.11 | G0A | like how China cheats almost all statistics:) |
| 08:53.46 | Delphinium | Well I still think that Russians have the best Math gift, and the resistibility to cold too. |
| 08:54.16 | Delphinium | And alcohol :) |
| 08:54.29 | JademusSreg | Time.com. Isn't that the website for a news distribution company whose declining sales of antiquated media technology has driven them to fascile sensationalism, or am I thinking of a different one? |
| 08:55.37 | JademusSreg | brb, but I have something which may interest modelers and terrainers when I return. |
| 08:55.38 | DeadZergling | isn't that all news? sensationalism? |
| 08:59.24 | Raziel | JademusSreg, I think all of them did that, yeah |
| 08:59.42 | DeadZergling | Delphinium, those look much better. I am curious though, how would you use that other model to cover the screen in blood |
| 09:00.14 | DeadZergling | could be a fun extra to add when people die, was it designed just to use one big dialog and show that blood there, or how should it be used? |
| 09:07.05 | Delphinium | Nanakey did that, but it's a very old solution, now we have new ones for such effects. |
| 09:07.18 | Delphinium | But we haven't test them yet. |
| 09:07.45 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I've got something which may interest modelers and terrainers, and generally those interested in procedural generation. Take a look at the HybridTechpit asset, it possesses a novel property. |
| 09:09.28 | Delphinium | 0.0 sounds interesting |
| 09:10.50 | JademusSreg | One of its subfloors uses the Castanar floor panel terrain texture. What is interesting about this is that it's non-orientable. |
| 09:11.38 | JademusSreg | Moving the model asset, you'll see the texture remains stationary. |
| 09:13.52 | JademusSreg | If the means by which the asset accomplishes this can be determined, it will be quite useful. I want this as both a walkable plane and a splat, if possible. If Zol were here, I'd bug him about it. |
| 09:14.08 | Delphinium | if you mean the terrain textures fit, it's a common property. |
| 09:15.03 | Delphinium | Oh, I know your means, I did similar things before. |
| 09:16.09 | JademusSreg | Moving, rotating or rescaling the asset, the texture remains the same relative to said transformation. |
| 09:19.29 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/963/2212.gif |
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| 09:19.48 | Delphinium | they used a special UV setting in the textures. |
| 09:19.55 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 09:20.41 | JademusSreg | Need it as a simple flat walkable plane, in various basic shapes, supporting splat projections if possible, and also as a splat if possible. I'll use the template and make a bunch of nice shit. |
| 09:21.05 | JademusSreg | That is lovely, Delph. Precisely. |
| 09:22.19 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/964/1.jpg |
| 09:22.37 | JademusSreg | If it's a UV setting, neato. Would appreciate support for diffuse, specular, emissive, normal, and height on both, if doable. |
| 09:23.15 | Delphinium | if you used Screen space as the Mapping UV setting, the map will not try to fit your model |
| 09:23.20 | Delphinium | but the screen |
| 09:24.28 | Delphinium | so from any angle you watch the model, the texutures will not change, just like the effect in the Hybrid model |
| 09:25.47 | Delphinium | Btw, if you use both the screen space setting and RTT, it should be fun. |
| 09:25.58 | JademusSreg | If you could provide templates for walkable planes in "circle", triangle, square, and hexagon shapes, and a splat, both types supporting diffuse, specular, emissive, normal, and height, I can batch produce models for terrain textures and put them on the forums for all to use. |
| 09:27.02 | JademusSreg | Preferably with arbitrarily long texture path names, so I don't need to modify the byte offsets in the model. |
| 09:27.44 | Delphinium | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:29.05 | DeadZergling | heh, seems my project gets reviews like Zolden |
| 09:29.10 | DeadZergling | Either 5 stars of 1 |
| 09:29.10 | JademusSreg | I've got the art tools, but haven't gotten around to learning to use them, so I appreciate your assistance in this. You'll be listed as co-developer of the resource, of course. |
| 09:29.14 | DeadZergling | *or 1 |
| 09:31.04 | JademusSreg | If the walkable plane versions support splat projections as well, that would allow them to replace terrain mesh texture blends pretty much entirely. |
| 09:31.48 | Delphinium | I can do this few days later, for now I may need to force on the animaition pack for SCU team, I have delayed too much time. |
| 09:32.14 | JademusSreg | Not only would it be a boon to procedural generation, but every map developer constrained by limited texture blends. |
| 09:32.20 | Delphinium | Good news is nanakey's works goes well, and UI models seems all functional. |
| 09:32.43 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/930/QQ20131221023643.jpg |
| 09:33.24 | JademusSreg | Excellent. I'm not in a rush, but since it serves both my immediate purposes and would be beneficial to everyone, I admit some eagerness. |
| 09:33.38 | Delphinium | we are trying to exchange all the old UI for development only, and use new ones. |
| 09:33.55 | JademusSreg | Looking lovely. |
| 09:34.46 | Delphinium | new ones will be more Sci-fi style I guess. |
| 09:35.07 | JademusSreg | Offsceen unit indicators, orientation gauges, target reticle, bars of some sort. |
| 09:35.37 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/839/kjk.jpg Such as the new health bar and mimimaps |
| 09:35.43 | JademusSreg | I expect the bar positioning hasn't yet been worked out, haha. |
| 09:36.50 | JademusSreg | Model using animations/groups to represent state, yeah? |
| 09:37.15 | Delphinium | Yes, that's the key. |
| 09:37.27 | JademusSreg | Too bad flash is restricted, would be less unwieldy for that purpose. |
| 09:37.50 | Delphinium | we tested about 30 different trackers in one model to control each part. |
| 09:38.08 | JademusSreg | What will occupy the little wedge to the left of the bars, below the number? |
| 09:38.57 | Delphinium | It's very powerful but too complex, so we now make new simpler ones. |
| 09:39.25 | JademusSreg | I would assume an icon will occupy the little wedge (since otherwise it's wasted space on the interface). |
| 09:40.31 | Delphinium | we have the special number models too, these models can change effect between A-Z, 0-9 and some punctuations too. |
| 09:42.03 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/463/hjkl.gif |
| 09:43.30 | Delphinium | like these words, we are planning to make color words for chatting in the game, but renee is too busy and nanakey is working on another part. |
| 09:45.52 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 09:47.17 | JademusSreg | In the case of ASCI characters, direct translation from an input string to a model id or actormsg animation tag is doable., |
| 09:48.38 | JademusSreg | In the case of UTF-supported characters, one could use the unicode value as a key. |
| 09:49.40 | Delphinium | now we only have 64 Unicodes, and it's too have to code Chinese words...... |
| 09:49.49 | Delphinium | hard |
| 09:53.18 | JademusSreg | I suppose. Uniform support for all unicode characters would be ridiculous to model. |
| 09:54.15 | JademusSreg | Although it's nice that SC2 supports custom fonts. |
| 09:54.27 | JademusSreg | Unrelated to modeling, of course. |
| 09:58.27 | JademusSreg | Oh, is anyone still on NA mapnight? |
| 09:59.35 | DeadZergling | I'd hope not, been 13 hours, lol |
| 10:03.48 | JademusSreg | Was curious if SC2 still permits the debugger in online games. |
| 10:06.33 | DeadZergling | Damn you hard 8 bit/16 bit games |
| 10:06.42 | DeadZergling | I have no concept of what easy is for most people, lol |
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| 10:12.15 | DeadZergling | Thanks again for the models Delphinium, used the one without splatter on some units really needing it, added a 30 % chance behavior to others so sometimes blood will splatter on impact with the other one |
| 10:15.05 | Delphinium | Sounds nice. I am glad that's helpful. |
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| 10:15.52 | DeadZergling | Have to let me know when your main mod pack comes out, I've made use of at least 30-40 % of what you sent me |
| 10:16.02 | DeadZergling | a few weeks ago |
| 10:16.26 | DeadZergling | some of it I see, and find myself needing a use for it :) |
| 10:16.53 | DeadZergling | Hi Zolden, my project gets reviews like yours, 5 or 1, lol |
| 10:17.37 | Zolden | DeadZergling it means it's good |
| 10:17.56 | Zolden | probably original enough to entertain and confuse at the same time |
| 10:18.32 | Zolden | or maybe it's normal and most of projects recieve 1s or 5s |
| 10:20.26 | DeadZergling | scaled my monsters even further down |
| 10:20.31 | DeadZergling | my idea of easy is wrong, apparently |
| 10:21.02 | JademusSreg | Zolden, I've got something which may interest you. |
| 10:21.11 | Zolden | go on |
| 10:21.14 | JademusSreg | Just gotta paste from my chat log. |
| 10:23.20 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/6u2hz |
| 10:24.19 | JademusSreg | Chat between Delph and I. If you're interested in handling it before Delph does, that would be exceedingly convenient. =D |
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| 10:34.35 | Zolden | you were right, your log did interest me, by this sentence "Btw, if you use both the screen space setting and RTT, it should be fun" |
| 10:35.00 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 10:35.13 | JademusSreg | Any chance you'd like to make some templates for me? |
| 10:35.26 | Zolden | yes, i'll check that model you mentioned |
| 10:36.10 | Zolden | how do you plan to use screen texture coordinates with terrain? |
| 10:36.26 | JademusSreg | Swarm.SC2Mod dependency. Test it in either cutscene or terrain editor, try moving it, scaling it, and rotating it along any axis. |
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| 10:39.11 | JademusSreg | I'm not certain how to intepret that, since that's not a term I employed in the context of my request. What I do know is that the property exhibited by the HybridTechpit model will allow for any terrain texture to be employed using shapes and hopefully splats, liberating us from terrain meshes for nearly all purposes. |
| 10:39.41 | JademusSreg | Or rather, liberating us from the texture blend limit of terrain meshes. |
| 10:40.47 | JademusSreg | Since I'm not certain how it's done, I cannot speak to the effect of screen texture coordinates. |
| 10:40.49 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 10:52.03 | Zolden | JademusSreg there's also ThorTech.m3 that uses this feature |
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| 11:02.30 | kingTD | http://youtu.be/T-HwByfffoY |
| 11:02.32 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 11:03.51 | JademusSreg | Yes, seen that model before, never tested it in game, but upon close inspection, I see it. |
| 11:14.14 | Zolden | JademusSreg so, how do you plan to use this? you want a splat with this feature? |
| 11:19.18 | Zolden | kingTD you know what |
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| 11:46.15 | JademusSreg | Walkable planes and splats, as detailed in the log. |
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| 11:49.16 | kingTD | Zolden i know what? |
| 11:49.52 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=forkuNNZ-Vw |
| 11:50.34 | Zolden | kingTD watch "Da Alig G shiow", it's the most funny thing on youtube |
| 11:50.54 | kingTD | i doubt it |
| 11:51.11 | kingTD | that i will find it funny and enjoyable |
| 11:51.22 | Zolden | i doubted it too and didn't watch it before, then tried and now i believe it is |
| 11:51.55 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 11:52.05 | JademusSreg | So here's the specs. |
| 11:52.34 | Zolden | kingTD you like that sad onion shit, but it's time to discover the real fun |
| 11:53.55 | kingTD | not really that i like it but time to time find just great option to waste time consuming that info |
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| 11:54.44 | kingTD | friday yesterday spent almost all day watching lets play's |
| 11:55.01 | nomoreholywar | Does anybody know how to make a unit look like snow? (change model to snow texture) |
| 11:55.27 | JademusSreg | Walkable planes, in shapes "circle", triangle, rectangle, pentagon, hexagon, textures diffuse, specular, emissive, normal, optionally height if possible, optionally supporting splat projection if possible; splat, supporting the same textures. |
| 11:56.40 | Zolden | JademusSreg ok, let's imagine you got those. Probably with that uv coords feature. Then what you do with them>? |
| 11:56.40 | JademusSreg | That should cover nearly all conceivable uses. |
| 11:57.16 | JademusSreg | Batch produce a version of the walkable planes and splats to support any/every terrain texture. |
| 11:57.43 | nomoreholywar | noone? :/ |
| 11:57.57 | JademusSreg | Then put them, the hardtile materials, and instructions on the forums. |
| 11:58.12 | JademusSreg | Nom, use texture select by id. |
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| 11:59.13 | Zolden | maybe you just want terrain texture on things? it will use ground texture of the map |
| 11:59.33 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 11:59.47 | XtremeGalaxy | m&m <3 |
| 11:59.58 | JademusSreg | The point is to not be limited to 8 terrain textures. |
| 12:00.11 | XtremeGalaxy | (many are asking that) |
| 12:00.11 | JademusSreg | And to not statically define them, either. |
| 12:00.15 | XtremeGalaxy | 8+ |
| 12:00.49 | XtremeGalaxy | @jade |
| 12:00.51 | JademusSreg | Oh, I'm aware of the technical limitations Xtr. I have interesting workaround. |
| 12:00.55 | Zolden | then why screen/map coords? why not normal coords? |
| 12:01.26 | XtremeGalaxy | update on Gateway Hash issue... |
| 12:01.31 | nomoreholywar | i want grass to get coverd by snow that has behaviors. So I thought a unit that looks liek snow is the easierst way. As I also want to move it. |
| 12:02.35 | XtremeGalaxy | as soon as i fiddle with player properties and game variants, it gives me this error |
| 12:02.55 | nomoreholywar | @jade I dont even know what that is :D I pnly mappe din wc3 before |
| 12:02.56 | JademusSreg | Zol, I wasn't the one to use those terms, so I'm not aware of how they apply in the context. But if the models are made such that they are textured the way the Castanar terrain texture was used on the HybridTechpit, overlapping models won't z-fight, and the textures will appear contiguous. |
| 12:03.43 | JademusSreg | Nom, http://paste.forum.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/20772-data-actor-events-message-texture-select-by-id/#posts |
| 12:04.43 | Zolden | nomoreholywar you want a unit to have snow around him? |
| 12:05.10 | nomoreholywar | Zolden I want the unit itself (example marine) to only look like snow |
| 12:05.27 | nomoreholywar | so it looks liek snow covers grass, when that marien walks on grass |
| 12:05.54 | nomoreholywar | but as you know I cant jsut select a snow model |
| 12:06.08 | Zolden | nomoreholywar you want it to have marine shape and snow texture? |
| 12:06.35 | Zolden | JademusSreg so, you want them to not z-fight and it's the only your concern? |
| 12:06.41 | nomoreholywar | the marine is of no matter at all. I want a walkin 2x2 snow field |
| 12:06.58 | nomoreholywar | That can do all the unit stuff |
| 12:07.27 | Zolden | nomoreholywar it should be a splat with snow texture |
| 12:07.44 | Zolden | splat is a projection on ground |
| 12:08.12 | Zolden | JademusSreg and you think that if they share terrain uv coords, z-fight won't be visible? |
| 12:08.12 | XtremeGalaxy | i had an issue a looong time ago when i watched the upload progress % go to a x val immediately and a few secs later fails(because of noob player props)... Seems as if anything is wrong with script editor will behave like this. |
| 12:08.26 | JademusSreg | Zol, imagine two plane models at different rotations overlapping, displaying the same texture. If they lack this feature, they z-fight and the textures are not similarly oriented which, with non-organic textures like brick and panels and such, the lines will be at wildly different angles. If they support this feature, the texture will map to them in a way which does not z-fight and it will |
| 12:08.27 | JademusSreg | look as though the texture is applied contiguously, without any separation. |
| 12:09.04 | nomoreholywar | Zolden Well I got no idea how to do that :D |
| 12:10.53 | JademusSreg | And, again, I simply cannot say if it's screen coords or normal coords, as I didn't even use those terms, Delph did, so I'm not certain how they apply in this context. My guess is that normal coords is correct, since screen coords sounds like it would render relative to the screen plane and thus would incorrectly appear the same at any viewing angle, wrongly. |
| 12:11.21 | Zolden | JademusSreg yea, I see, and terrain uv coords will proabbly require more efforts than terrain kind of material, which too has the desired probperty, but automatically using the texture of the terrain under it, it like get projected on it. Though, this second solution won't allow custom textures |
| 12:12.19 | Zolden | nomoreholywar find any splat, maybe terran cursosr splat, and use it as unit's main model, alos texture select by id it with the snow texture |
| 12:12.40 | Zolden | or maybe just simple splat1.m3 |
| 12:12.47 | Zolden | because cursors are glowy |
| 12:12.54 | JademusSreg | Definitely, absolutely, certainly, explicitly do not want the terrain texture adopting material, as that is the exact opposite of the intended purpose. |
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| 12:14.11 | Zolden | ok, I got it, you need terrain coords, not screen ones, it's i'm the one who need the screen ones |
| 12:14.21 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 12:14.59 | nomoreholywar | Zolden thanks for your help. I must admit that I dont understand enough about that stuff to get this woking. |
| 12:15.02 | nomoreholywar | working* |
| 12:16.09 | Zolden | nomoreholywar do you know how to change unit's model? |
| 12:16.22 | nomoreholywar | yes |
| 12:16.58 | Zolden | so, to get the idea, try to change marine's model to any model that has "splat" in its name |
| 12:22.16 | Zolden | nomoreholywar did it work for you? |
| 12:29.59 | Zolden | catapults a pile of pig penises into kingTD |
| 12:30.33 | JademusSreg | Zol, is that a hint you're making a penis catapult model? |
| 12:30.46 | kingTD | eats them for breakfast |
| 12:30.51 | JademusSreg | Call it Archimedes Donglauncher? |
| 12:31.17 | Zolden | catapult model is done yet by me and kingTD, and penis projectile is easy to make |
| 12:33.51 | Zolden | contemplating this video casts some deep existentialistic thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9VMfdG873E |
| 12:35.15 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, sorry I had to go afk.. ill try it now |
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| 12:39.57 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, okay I get now what a splat is, But there aint such thing as a snow splat |
| 12:42.24 | rtschutter | is there a way to pull a part of a string that is between two specific characters? Not by character count, but by character type |
| 12:42.38 | Zolden | nomoreholywar http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/993/snow2.rar |
| 12:42.39 | rtschutter | so for example between * and * |
| 12:42.42 | Zolden | try this |
| 12:43.25 | Zolden | rtschutter today I got a new piece of information, that may help to finally achieve pip |
| 12:43.51 | rtschutter | nice |
| 12:44.11 | rtschutter | wont do me any good anymore unfortunately |
| 12:44.16 | rtschutter | cant implement pip in the new gameheart |
| 12:44.25 | Zolden | why not? |
| 12:44.29 | rtschutter | not unless they make the observer id change I asked them for |
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| 12:44.35 | rtschutter | observers can't interact with the game |
| 12:44.38 | rtschutter | cannot trigger events |
| 12:44.42 | Zolden | oh |
| 12:44.49 | rtschutter | and new gameheart uses real observers now |
| 12:44.55 | rtschutter | instead of just players that don't have any units |
| 12:45.12 | rtschutter | do you know anything about strings? |
| 12:45.15 | Zolden | and why observer is better than player without units? |
| 12:45.46 | rtschutter | because observer can use the default observer tools, and see player vision accurately, and use interface files |
| 12:45.47 | Zolden | i never worked with strings, but saw some actions for this |
| 12:45.54 | rtschutter | it eliminates a lot of the backend clutter |
| 12:48.05 | DeadZergling | this is a nice quote Zolden: [04:30] <Zolden> ......... penis projectile is easy to make |
| 12:48.13 | DeadZergling | Gonna think of this every time you don't respond for awhile |
| 12:49.14 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, I go data (f7) then import and import all those files.. but I choose them still |
| 12:49.27 | Delphinium | I feel cold... |
| 12:50.03 | DeadZergling | According to Shanghai the weather in China is nice today |
| 12:50.08 | DeadZergling | so enjoy your nice weather! |
| 12:50.32 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 12:52.12 | Zolden | Delphinium your screen coords + rtt is splendid |
| 12:53.44 | Zolden | nomoreholywar place the textures to Assets/Textures folder, then save map, close and restart the editor, open map and use that model |
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| 12:55.23 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
| 12:55.32 | DeadZergling | had enough fun staring at skill trees for today, time for me to sleep |
| 12:55.43 | DeadZergling | bye all :) |
| 12:55.56 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, where is that folder? oO |
| 12:58.56 | Zolden | rightclick on the files, click on move, type folder name |
| 13:00.44 | Zolden | inside import editor |
| 13:03.45 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, http://www0.xup.in/exec/ximg.php?fid=17501459 |
| 13:05.03 | Zolden | i don't click awkwardly looking urls |
| 13:05.49 | JademusSreg | Use dropbox. |
| 13:06.16 | Zolden | use snag.gy |
| 13:06.31 | Zolden | there you just ctrl+v the image you just printscreened |
| 13:08.27 | JademusSreg | Dropbox for drive images and other not-huge files. Pastee.org or pastebin.com for code and other not-huge text. Imgur for long-term image hosting. Snaggy is fine; I don' |
| 13:08.38 | JademusSreg | *I don't use it, but nothing wrong with it. |
| 13:08.44 | nomoreholywar | hey, Something broke and it's not your fault. try pasting again. We're looking into this issue now. Sorry. |
| 13:09.03 | nomoreholywar | problem with snagggy is that it doenst work |
| 13:10.20 | JademusSreg | Nom, out of curiosity, where do you reside? European, yeah? |
| 13:10.27 | nomoreholywar | yes |
| 13:11.00 | JademusSreg | German? We've got some german regulars here. |
| 13:11.12 | nomoreholywar | yeah im german |
| 13:11.31 | nomoreholywar | i flly understand what zolden is telling me, yet I cant do it.. |
| 13:11.34 | nomoreholywar | fully* |
| 13:11.42 | nomoreholywar | + my editor is english |
| 13:12.02 | JademusSreg | And many old wc3 modders, I expect, who could probably help explain things to you in a way to which you may relate. |
| 13:12.40 | Zolden | nomoreholywar jsut use this model instead http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/968/buff_ice_splat.m3 |
| 13:12.55 | Zolden | it's using ingame textures and will work right after import |
| 13:16.47 | nomoreholywar | JademusSreg thanks for this offer. I will make use of it later. For now I only need this to be working. |
| 13:17.58 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, I imported the "buff_ice_splat.m3". Its now listed under Base.SC2Data -> GameData -> buff_ice_splat.m3. I saved the map, opened it again and it is not being listed. |
| 13:18.32 | nomoreholywar | nvm now it is |
| 13:19.13 | XtremeGalaxy | Guys do you knw what file inside sc2 map mpq holds the game variants and stuff? |
| 13:21.34 | JademusSreg | Xtr, hm. |
| 13:24.37 | JademusSreg | Most of that information is, strangely, in GameData.xml, accessible in the map. |
| 13:24.37 | XtremeGalaxy | weird... |
| 13:24.37 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, Im using Kaldir Snow Powdered + the snow is stuck to the spawn of the unit and wont move with it :/ |
| 13:26.13 | Zolden | nomoreholywar ok, try to make the first model I linked to work |
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| 13:27.29 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, you said i should import to Assets/Textures, there is now such folder |
| 13:31.28 | Zolden | rightclick on the files, click on move, type folder name |
| 13:31.34 | Zolden | after import |
| 13:31.38 | XtremeGalaxy | so basically "gameData" is compiled into base.sc2data/ |
| 13:31.39 | Zolden | in import editor |
| 13:32.56 | JademusSreg | Xtr, dunno what you are attempting, but it elicits my skepticism. |
| 13:33.14 | XtremeGalaxy | ^^ |
| 13:33.35 | XtremeGalaxy | i want to try and manually compile a map which doesnt want to upload |
| 13:33.47 | nomoreholywar | Zolden so i go new path and type Assests/Textures? |
| 13:34.05 | Zolden | yea |
| 13:34.10 | nomoreholywar | done |
| 13:34.18 | XtremeGalaxy | i narrowed it down to something with the variants in game that may be inconsistent with player properties |
| 13:34.35 | Zolden | after it's done, restart the editor |
| 13:34.58 | nomoreholywar | check |
| 13:35.50 | XtremeGalaxy | so i want to take my upload v1.1 and "copy" its varients and player props into the new 1.2 map |
| 13:36.02 | XtremeGalaxy | and try upload again |
| 13:36.39 | XtremeGalaxy | the mistake i made was to lock players on team in variants in 1.1 |
| 13:37.05 | XtremeGalaxy | and i went on to dev and changed it to unlocked |
| 13:37.14 | XtremeGalaxy | and after a few saves and hours work |
| 13:37.21 | nomoreholywar | Zolden Snow still wont move with unit + its still the wrong one (yet a diffrent one) : |
| 13:37.48 | XtremeGalaxy | it gave me that pesky cryptic error, Gateway_hash_mismatch |
| 13:38.42 | XtremeGalaxy | shit like this always happen to me, error like this which no-one knows what it is |
| 13:38.46 | XtremeGalaxy | =P |
| 13:39.02 | XtremeGalaxy | i should be a bug tester |
| 13:39.29 | XtremeGalaxy | i hav a nack to get "unsolvable" errors |
| 13:39.57 | nomoreholywar | afk 15 min. |
| 13:41.08 | XtremeGalaxy | QUCIK Q: how long since any of you actually reinstalled sc? |
| 13:41.40 | XtremeGalaxy | ive been running since release ^^ |
| 13:43.31 | JademusSreg | Tried using the new Battle.net client? |
| 13:43.55 | XtremeGalaxy | no, should i? |
| 13:44.27 | XtremeGalaxy | updates to ed? |
| 13:45.04 | JademusSreg | Couldn't hurt. Uninstall the stuff, download the battlenet client from their site, install all your games through it. |
| 13:45.12 | JademusSreg | Kinda like Blizzard's Steam. |
| 13:45.13 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 13:45.21 | XtremeGalaxy | kk |
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| 14:09.50 | G0A | JademusSreg do you know any function that allows detection of both dialog items if they 100% overlap each other |
| 14:10.07 | G0A | I am trying to make a full dialog base mouse detection system:) |
| 14:12.18 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:13.21 | JademusSreg | If it doesn't accept mouse, it necessarily allows thus beneath to catch the event, but excludes it from catching it. |
| 14:13.34 | JademusSreg | So no, that doesn't sound doable. |
| 14:14.11 | G0A | okey |
| 14:14.43 | G0A | then I will have to leave out gaps, it will be interesting:) |
| 14:19.35 | JademusSreg | I don't much see the point in dialog-based mouse detection. |
| 14:21.03 | G0A | no network lag? |
| 14:21.04 | JademusSreg | I mean, in specific cases, sure, but not as an alternative to standard input. |
| 14:22.14 | JademusSreg | That's just silly. How does replacing one event source with another, -plus- a ton of event registers/triggers/frames/object references solve such an issue? |
| 14:22.55 | G0A | as the mouse move event fires up 50 times per tick |
| 14:24.26 | JademusSreg | And how do dialog controls prevent such a thing from occuring? It would be limited by the arbitrary degree of precision as a function of the number of dialog frames created and registered. |
| 14:24.45 | JademusSreg | But the same thing could occur. |
| 14:25.37 | G0A | could |
| 14:25.42 | G0A | worth a try:) |
| 14:25.57 | G0A | since I am testing all kind of mouse movement stuff |
| 14:28.04 | JademusSreg | Sounds silly. If threads are really, truly a concern, disable for one tick, problem solved. I usually use camera yaw, but I can imagine it may be disorienting in some cases. |
| 14:28.49 | G0A | thats what I am doing |
| 14:29.15 | G0A | disabling for 1 tick made latency very noticable |
| 14:30.32 | G0A | what do you do with camera yaw? |
| 14:30.56 | Zolden | use camera jew |
| 14:31.14 | G0A | :) |
| 14:32.16 | JademusSreg | If camera rotation is relative, camera yaw is perspective's facing, so it can be used to orient a unit, convenient if you don't need the mouse for point-specific targeting. |
| 14:37.22 | G0A | well I still dont get it.) |
| 14:38.08 | JademusSreg | I'll demo. |
| 14:38.20 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Starcraft%202/JademusDemo.SC2Map |
| 14:38.56 | XtremeGalaxy | LOL i by accident made an under water map, lol |
| 14:39.19 | XtremeGalaxy | looks kinda cool |
| 14:44.04 | G0A | I should be using more those labeling icons, your code looks neat like this:) |
| 14:44.25 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 14:45.43 | JademusSreg | is working on turning a convenient but flawed function into a more robust sigmoid function. |
| 14:57.36 | G0A | so there a get yaw of player |
| 14:57.49 | G0A | didnt know about that |
| 14:58.08 | G0A | btw you know that the terrain is full black? |
| 14:59.12 | G0A | *or at least with my settings |
| 14:59.37 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I actually use lighting. *gasp* |
| 15:00.59 | XtremeGalaxy | ^^ |
| 15:01.29 | JademusSreg | I run the editor/test/place on max settings. |
| 15:01.35 | JademusSreg | *play on |
| 15:02.28 | XtremeGalaxy | the HDR in ultra looks a bit over done |
| 15:02.47 | XtremeGalaxy | high looks better for me (shaders) |
| 15:02.57 | JademusSreg | I refuse to imagine what it's like to play the game with only a -single- lighting render pass, just perish the thought. |
| 15:03.07 | G0A | :D |
| 15:03.24 | G0A | I always like to play games on low graphics, looks cleaner |
| 15:03.48 | XtremeGalaxy | yea def for fps games |
| 15:03.56 | XtremeGalaxy | as they can be seen for mile ^^ |
| 15:04.01 | XtremeGalaxy | miles |
| 15:04.40 | XtremeGalaxy | OK i got verything in, but some trigger names are missing |
| 15:05.00 | G0A | thats because almost all fps games has extremely crappy fogs |
| 15:05.47 | XtremeGalaxy | i dont think theyll ever make real particle textures in our lifetime |
| 15:06.03 | JademusSreg | Meanwhile, I enjoy ambient occlusion, direct/ambient dynamic lighting and shadows, limitless light sources, splats, physics models-- I admit, I don't give much of a shit about the physics. But lighting, damn, playing witohut the lighting, may as well play the game in fucking MSPaint. |
| 15:06.05 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 15:06.35 | XtremeGalaxy | HAHAH |
| 15:08.08 | XtremeGalaxy | thats what i noticed in games programming, developers actually just fake everything |
| 15:08.30 | XtremeGalaxy | there is no Real physics involed |
| 15:08.45 | XtremeGalaxy | just a couple of ragdolls etc |
| 15:09.45 | G0A | what is real physics anyway? |
| 15:09.48 | JademusSreg | rolls the eyes. All of the eyes. |
| 15:09.56 | XtremeGalaxy | the BEst FOG/Smoke ive ever seen was in FEAR when you were riding the copper after they picked you up after explosion |
| 15:10.24 | XtremeGalaxy | like I slap you and the air made move by my body also affects other objects, |
| 15:10.27 | XtremeGalaxy | not only the target |
| 15:11.34 | XtremeGalaxy | you can work out physics pragmatically, but you will never be able to anticipate any variences |
| 15:12.06 | XtremeGalaxy | in physical motion and factors such as wind, for eg |
| 15:12.29 | XtremeGalaxy | just too many unknowns at a time |
| 15:13.24 | XtremeGalaxy | thats why i say , and still say that We need to find a different approuch to physics in games |
| 15:14.09 | XtremeGalaxy | Better eg xample |
| 15:14.15 | XtremeGalaxy | lol eg xample |
| 15:14.30 | XtremeGalaxy | like sc2, replays |
| 15:15.10 | XtremeGalaxy | everythime a replay is saved only some basic instructions are "recorded" |
| 15:15.35 | XtremeGalaxy | and the engine works out the rest as all the ingame factors are static |
| 15:15.50 | XtremeGalaxy | like the map layout and pathing for eg |
| 15:15.52 | JademusSreg | I'd like to ride a copper, but suspect I'd be maced before mounting its shoulders. |
| 15:16.27 | XtremeGalaxy | hehe |
| 15:16.44 | XtremeGalaxy | just ride him Hard and run away quick |
| 15:16.48 | XtremeGalaxy | xD |
| 15:16.56 | JademusSreg | And here's some random SC2 shit from my link-friendly album: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/e8s7lwt5j6abw0t/KzWMC_WwqW |
| 15:17.16 | JademusSreg | https://www.dropbox.com/s/p3bt957fn4qwj1f/Blizzard%20Hurhur.jpg reminds me of FEAR. |
| 15:19.16 | XtremeGalaxy | kinda ye |
| 15:20.22 | XtremeGalaxy | but coming back to physics in games |
| 15:20.59 | XtremeGalaxy | look at how PhysX started |
| 15:21.11 | XtremeGalaxy | with that big ass pci expansion card |
| 15:21.21 | XtremeGalaxy | just for a few calculations |
| 15:21.30 | XtremeGalaxy | ingame |
| 15:21.52 | XtremeGalaxy | Ah, those were the days |
| 15:22.16 | XtremeGalaxy | and when amd still rocked the game scene |
| 15:23.03 | Zolden | the cycle of the year touched the dead bottom and started bringing the summer back to us |
| 15:23.28 | XtremeGalaxy | (o-0) |
| 15:23.44 | JademusSreg | Xtr, I don't quite grasp what point you intend to make regarding in-game physics simulations. |
| 15:24.12 | XtremeGalaxy | hehe soz, im a bit hight atm |
| 15:24.34 | XtremeGalaxy | your post regarding "what is real physics" |
| 15:24.49 | JademusSreg | That was Goa. |
| 15:25.12 | XtremeGalaxy | my bad =P |
| 15:25.24 | XtremeGalaxy | wonder if he reads? |
| 15:25.53 | XtremeGalaxy | shame i shouldnt annoy you guys like this... |
| 15:26.01 | JademusSreg | He does extensively. |
| 15:26.15 | XtremeGalaxy | XD |
| 15:26.17 | JademusSreg | It's not annoying any more than what most people say. |
| 15:26.40 | XtremeGalaxy | so im on par then? |
| 15:27.17 | XtremeGalaxy | you ?EU jade |
| 15:27.25 | XtremeGalaxy | US? |
| 15:28.03 | JademusSreg | I mean only to say the point of stating games employing physics simulations do not use real physics. Borders on tautological. =D |
| 15:28.30 | JademusSreg | *to say I don't see the point |
| 15:28.36 | JademusSreg | Haha, missed several words there. |
| 15:28.44 | XtremeGalaxy | =Q |
| 15:29.04 | XtremeGalaxy | cos it might also explain if you dont understand me very well |
| 15:29.12 | XtremeGalaxy | or i might explain wrong |
| 15:29.30 | XtremeGalaxy | as eng is not my home lang |
| 15:30.45 | JademusSreg | Meanwhile, attempting to define a sigmoid function with a curve that serves my purposes. |
| 15:31.13 | JademusSreg | So far, not yet satisfy. |
| 15:31.54 | XtremeGalaxy | has someone written a function that can be used as a Event |
| 15:32.06 | XtremeGalaxy | like "unit IS idle" |
| 15:32.14 | JademusSreg | Xtr, doesn't make sense. |
| 15:32.25 | XtremeGalaxy | ok |
| 15:32.27 | XtremeGalaxy | like in a trigger |
| 15:32.31 | XtremeGalaxy | the EVENT |
| 15:32.56 | XtremeGalaxy | is there something you guys may have produced |
| 15:33.14 | kingTD | lol playing HS minion displayed that was placed on the battlefield in players hand with attack position, only hp and dmg is visible (half hard) |
| 15:33.26 | JademusSreg | I get that part. I don't use the clickityclack eye-hemorrhaging GUI trigger stuff, but if you need a galaxy script reference: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Starcraft%202/GalaxyStandardLibrary.7z |
| 15:33.35 | XtremeGalaxy | that has a Event of like Unit is idle, not units becomes idle? |
| 15:33.54 | kingTD | ohh its backs |
| 15:34.00 | kingTD | *-s |
| 15:34.18 | JademusSreg | Xtr, doesn't make sense. Becoming is an event, being is a state, thus you'd iterate units to check if their state is idle. |
| 15:35.03 | XtremeGalaxy | ah k |
| 15:35.21 | XtremeGalaxy | reason i ask is i placed units in a region |
| 15:35.45 | XtremeGalaxy | and on map init i want them all to attck move |
| 15:36.04 | XtremeGalaxy | to a location |
| 15:36.54 | XtremeGalaxy | without doing the unit group iterations |
| 15:36.55 | JademusSreg | (While physically and philosophically, reality consists of events and is always in a process of becoming, state is a convenient abstraction for understanding and operating on events, haha.) |
| 15:37.19 | XtremeGalaxy | hehe |
| 15:38.02 | JademusSreg | UnitGroupIssueOrder (unitgroup inGroup, order inOrder, int inQueueType); |
| 15:38.38 | JademusSreg | For the unitgroup, give it UnitGroup (string type, int player, region r, unitfilter filter, int maxCount); |
| 15:40.19 | XtremeGalaxy | so basically no "Pick unit in region" THAT WOULD BE AWESOME!!! |
| 15:41.20 | JademusSreg | Pick Each functions are dreadful; they employ their own natives for looping, which is ridiculous on the face of it, and they can't be nested. |
| 15:42.09 | XtremeGalaxy | loop of death =) |
| 15:42.17 | JademusSreg | Pick Each loops use these natives, specifically: https://pastee.org/fymsz |
| 15:53.21 | XtremeGalaxy | gtg |
| 15:53.26 | XtremeGalaxy | thx for weird chat ^^ |
| 15:57.49 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
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| 16:31.39 | JademusSreg | Found a nice, convenient curve with a festive, goblin-esque name. Gompertz. |
| 16:36.04 | Zolden | what do you mean under curve? |
| 16:37.06 | Zolden | a function? |
| 16:37.27 | Dustin|Home | He means an algorithm to get points on a curve |
| 16:38.48 | Zolden | i'd suppose most of jew mathematicians names sound goblinish |
| 16:39.01 | Dustin|Home | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gompertz_function |
| 16:40.52 | JademusSreg | Fortunately, it's O(1) on the galaxy side. |
| 16:42.25 | Zolden | oh, it's an exponent |
| 16:42.37 | Zolden | *exponential |
| 16:42.42 | Zolden | they all are convenient |
| 16:42.51 | Zolden | because describe real world dependencies |
| 16:43.48 | JademusSreg | It's convenient at least insofar as it'll help me define stat bonus values. |
| 16:44.12 | Zolden | for example, it may describe the level of completion of a task depending on time spent |
| 16:44.31 | JademusSreg | Without problematic y-oriented asymptotes tending toward infinity. |
| 16:46.24 | Zolden | JademusSreg why don't you make your own curve? |
| 16:46.35 | Zolden | that would perfectly fit your situation |
| 16:47.34 | JademusSreg | I'm not a mathematician, so discovering my very own curve is outside my technical skill set. |
| 16:47.47 | Zolden | for example, hitler created his own curve, that described the shape of his moustache |
| 16:48.32 | Zolden | JademusSreg you're programmer, it whould be enough, just make a little program, that would visualise your function, and then try different ones until you find the good one |
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| 16:52.07 | JademusSreg | At best, assuming some measure of success, it is highly probably I would only rediscover a curve already described elsewhere, likely a case of a class of curves. |
| 16:52.14 | JademusSreg | *highly probable |
| 16:52.36 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:54.25 | JademusSreg | Mathematics, more than any other technical field, is very much a space in which creativity is only rewarded with novel discovery when an exhaustive comprehension of the subject is attained. |
| 16:55.01 | nomoreholywar | Zolden Im back^^ |
| 16:55.18 | JademusSreg | It is by far the most ancient technical field, and there are no low-hanging fruit for novices. |
| 16:55.56 | Zolden | using it helps to learn it |
| 16:56.29 | Zolden | sor example I sucked at math in scool, then started programming, learned lots of funny shit, stopped sucking |
| 16:56.53 | G0A | The fruit is that if you manage to solve a mathematical problem by the best possible way, it doesnt matter if its already discovered. After all infinite universe as infinite possibility to discover it:) |
| 16:56.53 | Zolden | same with history, I sucked at it, then played civilization, understood what's history about, stopped sucking |
| 16:57.04 | nomoreholywar | I was good at math in school, then I started to study informatics -> now I suck :( |
| 16:57.45 | G0A | " played civilization, understood what's history about" you must be delusional about history.D |
| 16:57.52 | nomoreholywar | +1 :D |
| 16:58.08 | JademusSreg | Goa, mathematics isn't concerned with solving math problems, but rather determining they can be solved. =D |
| 16:58.15 | G0A | nomoreholywar you always sucked, but now at least you know it:) |
| 16:58.26 | JademusSreg | Solutions entail computation and application. |
| 16:58.29 | Zolden | and yes, I agree with G0A, inventing correct math functions or correct algorythms is fun because during it you travel inside platonian ideal space, it's a bnit like lsd trip |
| 16:59.10 | G0A | "determining they can be solved" is a math problem which should be determined if it can be determined, dammit loops |
| 16:59.17 | nomoreholywar | thanks for your love :D |
| 16:59.38 | JademusSreg | Goa ♥ |
| 16:59.58 | Zolden | G0A the thing is to develope emotional reaction to the facts, for example, i didn't care about who conquered who until I played through it in civilization |
| 17:00.33 | G0A | you know there are more thing to history than conquering stuff |
| 17:00.34 | nomoreholywar | Zolden, sorry to bother you all day... My problem now is that the first model you sent me is still not the right snow and its still not movign with the unit :( |
| 17:00.44 | nomoreholywar | G0A, no |
| 17:01.39 | JademusSreg | Nooo? No what? |
| 17:02.24 | nomoreholywar | There is nothing besuce conquering in history |
| 17:02.24 | G0A | then History is about to conquering people minds |
| 17:02.42 | nomoreholywar | that was my retard thought xD |
| 17:02.45 | Zolden | nomoreholywar maybe both models are static, don't remember |
| 17:03.11 | Zolden | anyway, go learn texture select by ID and change any ingame splat that will move with the unit |
| 17:04.07 | nomoreholywar | meh |
| 17:04.31 | nomoreholywar | I thought that this was an easy thing to do |
| 17:04.31 | Zolden | G0A the subject of history reacts to ppl minds changes, but I'd rather say that long term social dynamics isn't history subject |
| 17:04.44 | duckies | g0a done |
| 17:04.55 | Zolden | nomoreholywar easy way would be to go to forum and ask someone to make you a model you want |
| 17:05.19 | Zolden | in artist tavern -> requests subforum |
| 17:05.45 | nomoreholywar | Okay, ill do that. Thanks 4 your help anyway :) |
| 17:21.39 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/971/QQ20131223012040.jpg |
| 17:21.40 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
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| 17:25.10 | G0A | A1win tested my map with 3 type of mouse position detection. 1 only saved mouse position and calculated your position at every tick, that was the worst, the other had the trigger turned of for 1 tick, that was bit better. And finally I just used the event and nothing special stuff, that was so much better than the other 2 method, almost no latency. |
| 17:26.53 | A1win | what do you mean "calculated your position"? |
| 17:27.11 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 17:27.23 | JademusSreg | Now I understand why you're testing, Goa. |
| 17:27.24 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:27.37 | G0A | I mean saved the mouse position in the event and calculated everything at the tick |
| 17:28.40 | A1win | the event thread is most likely handled after the loop thread, so it has 1 tick delay, unless you somehow make the loop thread be handled last |
| 17:29.04 | JademusSreg | I prefer input-catching script with a dedicated update thread. Better performance, especially with respect to multiple event activations. |
| 17:29.30 | A1win | mm just need to get the thread order sorted out with that |
| 17:29.50 | JademusSreg | Order within the GUI determines, in part, thread execution order. |
| 17:30.27 | JademusSreg | Libraries, for example, get priority over map shit. Trigger A over Trigger B, assuming the same event or comparable, A goes first. |
| 17:31.04 | A1win | how do you get the update thread to run last, though? |
| 17:32.07 | A1win | G0A, keep in mind that if you store the mouse position from the event only once per tick, it will store the first one, which is the oldest mouse position event, rather than the one that comes last, which is the newest |
| 17:32.24 | A1win | so you should never ignore any mouse moved events |
| 17:32.52 | G0A | yeah |
| 17:32.56 | JademusSreg | A dedicated update thread that doesn't return and doesn't execute a copy of itself, the advantage of consistency; no number of threads overflowing the trigger stack can kill it. As for controlling execution order, I've never had an issue with that, but it can be done using the Trigger API. |
| 17:33.01 | A1win | when it sends those ~16 mouse events per tick, they are from different positions, not the same one 16 times |
| 17:33.53 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/3t3sx |
| 17:35.30 | JademusSreg | Should be obvious what most of those do. |
| 17:40.53 | Zolden | how's englishly correct to say: "someone casted penis attack spell on you" or "someone casted a penis attack spell on you" or "someone casted the penis attack spell on you"? |
| 17:42.11 | JademusSreg | The second is the least-wrong. |
| 17:44.05 | JademusSreg | Assuming past tense, like in a buff tooltip, better written as something like "Hit with a penis attack spell." |
| 17:46.46 | JademusSreg | Assuming past tense and the name of the spell is Penis Attack, "Hit with Penis Attack." If a penis attack is a category of spell, "Hit with a penis attack." or "Affected by a penis attack." or "This unit was hit by a penis attack." |
| 17:49.17 | Zolden | it's a message what appears after the spell was casted |
| 17:49.56 | Zolden | also, penis attack isn't spells, name, just description, that it's an attack, and penises involved |
| 17:50.09 | Zolden | *isn't spell's name |
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| 17:53.12 | Zolden | and what message would be correct for the caster? "You casted penis attack" or "You have casted penis attack"? |
| 17:53.23 | Zolden | *a penis attack |
| 17:53.37 | JademusSreg | Present tense. "%unitName% casts a penis attack." Still clumsy wording, but correct. |
| 17:54.08 | Zolden | it's not present tense, it's past tens I guess |
| 17:54.14 | Zolden | player uses ability |
| 17:54.20 | Zolden | the spell got casted |
| 17:54.29 | Zolden | player recieves a message that it just happened |
| 17:54.46 | Zolden | do I need to put "have" before the verb in present tense? |
| 17:55.05 | JademusSreg | "%player% cast a penis attack spell." Still clumsy as hell, but seems to be what you want. |
| 17:55.19 | Zolden | how to unclumsy it? |
| 17:55.44 | Zolden | also, it's a message for the player |
| 17:55.59 | JademusSreg | How many penis attack type spells are there? What is the name of these spells? Is it a spell or just a power? |
| 17:56.02 | Zolden | can I sey "You cast a penis attack spell"? |
| 17:56.13 | Zolden | ok, fuck penis attack |
| 17:56.17 | Zolden | it's a snow storm |
| 17:56.41 | JademusSreg | And it's named "snow storm"? |
| 17:56.43 | Zolden | jsut imagine, you press "cast snow storm button", and recieve a message "you cast a snow storm" |
| 17:56.51 | JademusSreg | There ya go. |
| 17:56.53 | JademusSreg | You go it. |
| 17:56.58 | Zolden | ok, ty |
| 17:57.00 | JademusSreg | "You cast a snow storm." |
| 17:57.32 | Zolden | why not "casted" btw? |
| 17:57.45 | Zolden | it's happened yet, so past tense seem reasonable |
| 17:57.48 | JademusSreg | That's just not how the word is commonly used. |
| 17:58.58 | Zolden | ok, I believe you |
| 17:59.07 | Zolden | crap, I should proabbly finish at least one english language theory book... |
| 17:59.14 | JademusSreg | And in this case, there's no point distinguishing between nearly-present-just-now-happened-but-finished-past-tense and happened-an-arbitrarily-distant-time-in-the-past-who-the-hell-knows-past-tense. |
| 18:01.32 | Zolden | so, past tense would pick the distant time, and pesent tense covers both? |
| 18:02.44 | Zolden | or "have" with past tense would distinguish those cases? |
| 18:04.57 | JademusSreg | One may distinguish between what is happening, what immediately happened, and what happened in an arbitrary past time. "have" is used to refer to an arbitrary past time, and while it can be used for the immediate past, it's unnecessary to make the distinction. |
| 18:06.17 | Zolden | ok, thanks |
| 18:07.14 | JademusSreg | ("You have eaten the cookies." makes sense if you think about if and when you ate the cookies, and it was a while ago. "You ate the cookies" makes sense if you ate the cookies in the immediate past, as though the action were described just after it transpired.) |
| 18:09.12 | Zolden | oh, and there's also that strange kind of verb shift, done/did |
| 18:11.47 | Zolden | but some verbs don't have different variants for this situyation? for example, "I uploaded the new patch" says that I just did it, and "I have uploaded the new patch" says that it was uploaded in indistinct moment but definitely has? |
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| 18:14.37 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 18:14.53 | Zolden | alright |
| 18:15.21 | Zolden | kingTD now I know english better than you! |
| 18:16.36 | JademusSreg | (Common usage, that is. Either is grammatically valid.) |
| 18:17.34 | Zolden | kingTD check this one http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_I1KC6JC80 |
| 18:40.09 | kingTD | oi chujnia :/ |
| 18:40.31 | kingTD | its like watching borat all over again |
| 18:43.57 | Froggy | I finally finished the master mask for m3a |
| 18:44.36 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 18:44.40 | Froggy | Even bigger than Gamon model, contains 107 animations inside... |
| 18:45.53 | Froggy | it can be added to other models in SC2, marines, zealot, marauder and almost every biped units. |
| 18:48.28 | G0A | Zolden Sun Idols are imba |
| 18:48.48 | Zolden | G0A imbier than conjurers? |
| 18:49.53 | G0A | conjurers suck |
| 18:50.52 | G0A | Zolden Ali G show rebooted? I watched it like 10 years ago |
| 18:51.08 | Zolden | it's old episodes |
| 18:51.13 | G0A | :( |
| 18:51.17 | Zolden | just discovered |
| 18:51.54 | G0A | Ali G Indahouse was a cult movie in my highschool class |
| 18:52.22 | G0A | watched it like 10 times |
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| 18:53.45 | JademusSreg | Sacho Baron Cohen, archduke of buffoons. |
| 19:02.49 | JademusSreg | Poll: Anyone here catch the joke in the name "Dårk Dungeon"? |
| 19:04.20 | JademusSreg | Unrelated, tested the Gompertz curve function, worked correctly on the first try, fuck yeah. |
| 19:06.47 | Dustin|Home | Jade |
| 19:07.00 | Dustin|Home | Can I see your implimentation code after you're done? |
| 19:07.08 | Dustin|Home | You're using it for stat balancing right? |
| 19:11.17 | JademusSreg | Yeah. I'll paste the function, I've not applied it to anything yet, but it works perfectly. |
| 19:11.47 | Dustin|Home | Ya I'd like to see it when it's applied to stuff too |
| 19:13.11 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/2rmap |
| 19:16.54 | JademusSreg | Of course, there is predictable precision loss in the computation compared to, say, float or double, but the values of the locals as seen in the debugger are approximately correct, just like my Euler's number constant is approximately correct. |
| 19:16.55 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:21.11 | Dustin|Home | nice :D |
| 19:32.31 | Zolden | JademusSreg waht joke is in that name? ass reference? |
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| 20:15.02 | JademusSreg | ?? |
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| 20:16.16 | JademusSreg | You've got Sound data entries, right? |
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| 20:18.06 | JademusSreg | Not sure why you're using timers, but anyway, you want to be able to play sounds from a string input, like to preview it in game or whatever, I expect. |
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| 20:21.01 | JademusSreg | I only mean to point out you can preload all the sounds form the data. Also, check to ensure the sound returning zero actually exists. Also, this can still be done with Sound actors by sending a message. Finally, what the hell is SoundID{1-100}? =D |
| 20:21.34 | ducky_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.50 | JademusSreg | And making it easier to read means destroying information. Don't provide less information, provide more; don't simplify what the variables are, paste everything associatied with them. |
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| 20:22.17 | JademusSreg | Argh, brb |
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| 20:41.02 | Zolden | ducky_ i see those action for the first time in my life |
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| 20:41.26 | Zolden | if you will post the code, I'll be able to rely at least on code structure |
| 20:41.30 | Zolden | now i can tell nothing |
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| 22:16.25 | Zolden | iSocket i'd chance a couple of letters in your nickname |
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| 22:18.07 | qumanhawk | hi everyone |
| 22:18.41 | Zolden | hi |
| 22:18.42 | iSocket | Zolden, why? |
| 22:19.40 | Zolden | iSocket now it's neutral, and modification would make it cool, and making things cool is against enthropy and therfore good |
| 22:38.50 | Repo | New map: Star Fighter - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/star-fighter/ |
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| 23:02.28 | Bommes | hail thee well community of mapster |
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