| 00:04.36 | Bommes | "Alchemy Mysteries: Prague Legends" |
| 00:04.42 | Bommes | a lesson on how to not name your game |
| 00:05.16 | Ahli | polish chemistry set? |
| 00:05.35 | Ahli | oh not polish |
| 00:06.33 | Ahli | czech |
| 01:06.27 | Ahli | I've played like 15 minutes of D3 and found a legendary which raised my damage by 50%... |
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| 01:13.06 | Bounty | pew |
| 01:36.45 | DeadZergling | didn't get enough hate on your last idea? |
| 01:41.23 | Bounty | what? |
| 01:41.24 | Bounty | lol |
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| 02:06.29 | Zandose | yo |
| 02:11.17 | Zandose | can i make a unit have no collision with triggers? I don't want my unit to have to move around other units and just go though them |
| 02:15.37 | Ahli | add buff that disables collision? |
| 02:16.07 | Zandose | never used buffs so i have no idea how to go about that. but a idea just poped into my head. brb |
| 02:20.39 | Zandose | guess i cant do it with actor messages |
| 02:21.12 | Zandose | data edit then |
| 02:27.19 | Zandose | well i seem to be dumb and cannot find the setting in data |
| 02:28.08 | Zandose | help please..... |
| 02:29.31 | Ahli | actor messages can't change anything that really matters for the game state... if a unit can walk through other units is something that matters a lot |
| 02:31.53 | DeadZergling | it isn't too bad Zandose, just go to behaviors in data tab, create a new behavior, of type buff |
| 02:32.09 | DeadZergling | check out the modification area of it, that will have what you need |
| 02:32.21 | DeadZergling | probably under the behavior or unit area there |
| 02:36.58 | Zandose | fixed. i changed the units movement and separtion radius to 0 |
| 02:38.22 | DeadZergling | I see, just want them not to do that period, was under the impression you wanted it only temporarily |
| 02:38.53 | Zandose | im only interested in the quick and easy fix for now |
| 02:42.05 | Zandose | does the trigger catalog effect just one unit or all units of that type. And is it for each player seperatly or all players |
| 03:14.11 | DeadZergling | all units of that type |
| 03:14.21 | Zandose | for that player i think |
| 03:14.31 | DeadZergling | if you had 2 marines, and only wanted to beef one up, catalog would not be the right approach |
| 03:14.39 | DeadZergling | right, only for that player |
| 03:15.22 | Zandose | creep system almost done |
| 03:15.43 | Zandose | just need to catalog some more things |
| 03:35.12 | Zandose | MovementSpeed |
| 03:35.13 | Zandose | Life - current, max, regen, armor |
| 03:35.13 | Zandose | Shield - current, max, regen, armor |
| 03:35.13 | Zandose | Energy - current, max, regen |
| 03:35.13 | Zandose | Attack - Damage, speed, range |
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| 04:26.10 | Zandose | so whats everyone doing right now? |
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| 04:32.20 | Zandose | hi |
| 04:32.39 | Kueken | salve |
| 04:46.51 | Ahli | D3 crashed :> |
| 04:47.00 | Zandose | nice |
| 04:47.04 | Zandose | how'd you do that? |
| 04:47.22 | Ahli | ptr, war cry, then leap... then crash |
| 04:47.39 | Zandose | oh |
| 04:47.51 | Zandose | i never use leap |
| 04:48.00 | Zandose | or warcry anymore |
| 04:50.50 | Zandose | want to play? |
| 05:01.52 | Kueken | I would play RoS beta, but I assume noone has that yet |
| 05:02.08 | ArcanePariah | Closed beta started today as well |
| 05:54.09 | Kueken | my email tells me I got Hearthstone Beta |
| 05:58.47 | Zandose | anyone have the link for the dialog text styles? |
| 06:02.09 | Zandose | at last http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/3/164/3ICE_s_SC2_Styles.jpg |
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| 06:33.17 | Kueken | if I run the bnet dektop app, am I online on bnet and visible for my friendlist etc? |
| 06:33.24 | Kueken | *desktop |
| 06:33.29 | ArcanePariah | No |
| 06:33.49 | ArcanePariah | However, you can see anyone who is on, who is a ReadID friend |
| 06:34.10 | ArcanePariah | But no, when you are in the app, you are not in any game and thus not visible |
| 06:34.49 | Kueken | and I can see only people in a game as well, no realid friends that just run the desktop app? |
| 06:35.01 | ArcanePariah | correct |
| 06:35.37 | Kueken | and I assume, there is still no invisible mode on bnet? |
| 06:36.51 | ArcanePariah | Afaik, no |
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| 06:43.46 | Zandose | can you prevent somoene from enter anything but a number into a dialog edit box? |
| 06:52.29 | Kueken | I guess you can check if he entered a number and clear the box if not |
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| 06:52.46 | ArcanePariah | quack quack |
| 06:52.55 | Zandose | perhaps and its making errors |
| 06:53.33 | duckies | duck duck |
| 06:53.47 | ArcanePariah | Zandose you use a trigger, dialog item used with text changed |
| 06:53.57 | ArcanePariah | and check the text value of the dialog item |
| 06:54.27 | Zandose | k |
| 06:54.36 | Zandose | does dialogs not like reals? |
| 06:56.40 | ArcanePariah | Well reals should be fine, what you should do is take the text entered, and convert it a real |
| 06:58.06 | ArcanePariah | I'm not sure how the values in an edit box are interpreted as, I'm assuming as text |
| 06:58.27 | Zandose | err Dialog - Set D[(Triggering player)][L.Dialog#].DialogItem[1] edit value to (String(D[(Triggering player)][L.Dialog#].Real) with Any Precision decimal places) for (Player group((Triggering player))) |
| 06:58.50 | Zandose | somehow causing a dialog event loop |
| 07:00.13 | ArcanePariah | Ok, I'm assuming D is struct |
| 07:00.22 | Zandose | yah |
| 07:00.32 | ArcanePariah | and L is a struct |
| 07:00.34 | Zandose | dont even try to understand someone elses gui |
| 07:01.18 | ArcanePariah | Oh I understand it fine, you have a 2 dimensional array of structs, and using the member of another struct as an index value |
| 07:01.29 | ArcanePariah | and within said struct is an array of dialog items |
| 07:01.53 | Zandose | k, dialog functions but whats causing it to run in a loop... |
| 07:02.13 | Zandose | k, dialog functions work but whats causing it to run in a loop... |
| 07:02.25 | ArcanePariah | What is exactly is it outputting? |
| 07:02.38 | ArcanePariah | Is it filling the edit box with repeats of the same value? |
| 07:02.59 | Zandose | the correct value. its just that a debug message is saying its running non-stop |
| 07:03.28 | Zandose | the edit box is being changed. i turned off the trigger for that part so it shouldnt be running |
| 07:04.14 | ArcanePariah | Well... so you have Trigger -> Turn Trigger off -> Edit box -> Turn trigger on? |
| 07:04.38 | ArcanePariah | As a backup, to be sure, for the trigger, add a conditon to make sure only 1 instance is running |
| 07:04.41 | Zandose | yah |
| 07:04.51 | ArcanePariah | So number of triggers running of X == 1 |
| 07:05.03 | Zandose | never used that before... hmm |
| 07:05.38 | ArcanePariah | or more precisely (Number of Active Instance of (Current Trigger) == 0 |
| 07:05.54 | ArcanePariah | That guarentees only 1 is running at anytime |
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| 07:06.31 | ArcanePariah | Oh noes, the almighty duck has its interwebz wings clipped |
| 07:06.35 | Zandose | debug says only one is running |
| 07:06.36 | ArcanePariah | :/ |
| 07:06.49 | ArcanePariah | its just running forever, and quits |
| 07:06.53 | ArcanePariah | alrighty |
| 07:07.15 | ArcanePariah | Have you disabled everything else in that trigger? |
| 07:07.22 | Zandose | lol. the correct values/reals stopped working |
| 07:07.49 | ArcanePariah | Ok, lets back up |
| 07:07.55 | ArcanePariah | What are we trying to accomplish? |
| 07:08.01 | Zandose | ill run that tests |
| 07:08.14 | Zandose | values fixed |
| 07:10.46 | Zandose | i could just ignore the errors... lol |
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| 07:11.56 | Zandose | if you want to see download the last attachment "Test - Dialog stats" http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/60176-what-is-next-project-winp/#p3 |
| 07:16.34 | Zandose | ?...conflict of events maybe |
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| 07:26.12 | Zandose | points at the evil Dialog - Any Dialog Item is used by Player Any Player with event type Changed Text |
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| 07:30.05 | Zandose | how can a event in a trigger which is turned off still fire |
| 07:33.23 | Zandose | smashed head against table |
| 07:36.35 | kingTD | looking great http://store.steampowered.com/app/237470/ |
| 07:38.41 | Kueken | Zandose: use a boolean instead |
| 07:41.13 | Zandose | are dialogs events not instant? i just added a 0.1 wait before turning dialog events back on and it works |
| 07:44.38 | Zandose | all fixed |
| 07:44.40 | Zandose | wired |
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| 08:24.03 | Zandose | so whos awake right now? |
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| 08:30.09 | Zandose | hi |
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| 09:44.13 | Zolden | kingTD how's map gen going? |
| 09:44.25 | kingTD | dota 2 again going |
| 09:46.59 | Zolden | so, "td" in your nick stands for "tempted by dota"? |
| 09:52.27 | Kueken | I always thought it means tiny d*ck |
| 09:53.07 | Kueken | hearthstone doesn't support my monitor's resolution :/ |
| 09:54.36 | Zolden | saw the monitor to fit |
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| 10:11.02 | kingTD | king of tiny dicks!!! YEAH! |
| 10:16.36 | Kueken | maybe ducks? |
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| 10:36.37 | kingTD | dicks for everyone! |
| 10:57.25 | Kueken | hearthstone feels... sluggish |
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| 10:59.22 | Kueken | everything seems so slow, and the controls+visuals feel like they are subject to bnet delay :D |
| 11:00.11 | Kueken | and I already encountered a multitude of bugs |
| 11:00.33 | Kueken | apparently the game doesn't appreciate commands being put in too fast |
| 11:02.52 | G0A | also the game sucks:) |
| 11:04.20 | G0A | once you realized that rare cards and certain cards are so imba |
| 11:06.25 | G0A | Kueken I like you projectiles tutorial, I will just copy the map into my heroish map cause I am extremely lazy:) |
| 11:07.31 | Kueken | well, the rarest cards are the legendaries, and most of them suck or are highly situational, so its not that bad |
| 11:07.50 | Kueken | yeah, sure, feel free to implement i |
| 11:07.50 | Kueken | t |
| 11:08.00 | G0A | will see it Kueken |
| 11:08.40 | G0A | not all of them situational, but those which are situational are so good at those situations... |
| 11:08.47 | Kueken | I cannot see me playing Heathstone for months, but playing a couple of games is fun so far |
| 11:08.58 | G0A | ofcourse some sucks, but they are way better then basic cards |
| 11:09.25 | G0A | well its perfect little time sink |
| 11:09.36 | G0A | for playing 1-2 games daily |
| 11:09.42 | G0A | while eating for example |
| 11:09.46 | Kueken | its not hard to unlock the rare cards, the legendaries take a lot of time, but you don't need many of those |
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| 11:16.14 | Kueken | bluescreen xD |
| 11:16.21 | Kueken | but not really |
| 11:16.27 | Kueken | it was more like aqua |
| 11:16.42 | Bommes | Hearthstone is a cool game to play while doing something else simultaneously like watching a football game or listening to an audio book or something where there is a lot of downtime |
| 11:17.03 | Bommes | audio book is maybe a bad example in terms of downtime |
| 11:17.04 | Bommes | :D |
| 11:17.07 | Bommes | but still |
| 11:17.58 | G0A | yeah I tried with audiobook, its not good:) |
| 11:20.55 | G0A | fuck fuck |
| 11:22.00 | G0A | fucking editor always crashes if you copied something from one map to another and you close the map without saving the another map |
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| 12:18.48 | G0A | blessing enemies minion that gives you 1 card whenever it attacks was the most satisfying thing in heartstone ever, specially that the enemy's minion had windfurry. |
| 12:22.47 | kingTD | heh well most of the matchs i play the minions dont survive for 2-3 turns... :s |
| 12:28.20 | G0A | he gave me 2 cards with it:D |
| 12:28.35 | G0A | and only destroyed 1 1/1 minion of mine:D |
| 12:29.27 | G0A | I have currently 5 wins and 0 losses in Arena with Paladin |
| 12:30.18 | kingTD | it displays loses? |
| 12:33.49 | Zolden | paladin has built in ad |
| 12:33.58 | Zolden | like youtube |
| 12:34.21 | G0A | kingTD in Arena |
| 12:34.32 | kingTD | ohh |
| 12:35.20 | duckies | aaw damn. Today I won't participate in MN. ;/ |
| 12:36.29 | duckies | so have fun q.q |
| 12:38.00 | G0A | :( |
| 12:40.20 | G0A | forget that today is friday lol |
| 12:47.50 | Zolden | twoday is fridie |
| 13:26.57 | Zolden | are there any nice ckyboxes in wol besides the aiur one? |
| 13:27.18 | Zolden | maybe a cloudy blue sky? |
| 13:28.32 | G0A | maybe you can find one on the net to import it, btw why do you need it? |
| 13:32.51 | Zolden | I want to make a cutscene for each builder |
| 13:34.12 | Kueken | heh |
| 13:34.18 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/lnpUZ.jpg |
| 13:34.19 | Zolden | lke this |
| 13:34.29 | Kueken | first round of arena, got ysera for my deck |
| 13:38.35 | G0A | looks nice |
| 13:39.16 | G0A | you should play animations on them |
| 13:39.36 | Zolden | yea |
| 13:39.57 | Zolden | just shuoldn't zoom high elf in, her face is ugly |
| 13:42.53 | Kueken | the left archer looks disproportionate |
| 13:43.14 | Kueken | head seems way too big |
| 13:43.39 | Kueken | the right archer is probably the same model, but looks better from that angle |
| 13:52.26 | G0A | Also its left forefinger is too thin:) |
| 13:52.27 | Zolden | it's camera angle maybe |
| 13:55.27 | Zolden | Kueken btw, have you tried mines and magic? |
| 13:55.43 | Kueken | no |
| 13:57.00 | G0A | then you must join today's map night |
| 14:09.03 | Zolden | Kueken go try it, you won't vomit |
| 14:09.29 | Kueken | sorry, dancing today :) |
| 14:18.50 | Zolden | anyone knows why my cutscene does show everything but terrain when loaded as dialog cutscene, but in cse it has maps's terrain |
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| 15:05.42 | Ousnius | hi |
| 15:05.43 | Ousnius | can you already make the game load another map in a multiplayer match now? |
| 15:25.43 | Zolden | Tolkfan hey, i've got a questing |
| 15:29.32 | Zolden | Tolkfan I made a cutscene, and it kinda using map's terrain, but when I play this cutscene in a dialog in game, there's no terrain, onlty the models |
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| 15:29.34 | Zolden | can I force the terrain to be visible too? |
| 15:35.56 | Tolkfan | Zolden, sorry I don't have any experience with running cutscenes inside maps or dialogs, I just use the cutscene editor to make videos. |
| 15:36.27 | Zolden | ok |
| 15:36.47 | G0A | Zolden http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-12-13/russias-largest-bank-proposes-bitcoin-alternative ! |
| 15:39.25 | Zolden | G0A yea, that Gref guy is a good economist |
| 15:43.31 | G0A | sounds so |
| 15:45.08 | kingTD | heh dota2 servers crashed :/ |
| 15:46.03 | kingTD | as every other update |
| 15:48.04 | kingTD | seems like its about time to uninstall the useless ptr :( |
| 15:51.57 | kingTD | wtf with this new color pallete :/ |
| 15:53.31 | kingTD | cool at least less lag loading shit |
| 15:58.13 | G0A | stop playing that crappy Dota and come to SC2 to prepare for map night:D |
| 16:04.25 | kingTD | i cant even play it how can stop playing it then? :( |
| 16:05.45 | G0A | :) |
| 16:05.54 | G0A | thought they already fixed the crash |
| 16:07.55 | kingTD | ohh no, mb tomorrow it will be fixed. All tournaments are on halt, streamers of dota playing other games |
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| 16:11.30 | G0A | Kueken lets see how imba are those heartstone cards: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dI-QfA8qZn8 |
| 16:13.30 | kingTD | well there are easy disables |
| 16:13.34 | kingTD | for them |
| 16:13.43 | kingTD | if used at the right time |
| 16:13.47 | kingTD | everything will be fine |
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| 16:58.51 | G0A | map night in 2 min and I am the only one there:) |
| 16:59.37 | Zolden | because it's in 4 minutes |
| 16:59.49 | Zolden | no one would come there so early |
| 17:00.50 | G0A | :) |
| 17:01.29 | G0A | anyway, I still have half an hour left from this extremely depressing documentary about NK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daqbdfpVywU |
| 17:09.08 | Zolden | crap, I listened away all my music and ended up listejning michael jackson |
| 17:09.39 | G0A | lol |
| 17:10.20 | G0A | listen this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dYFak1_jYDs |
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| 17:14.15 | EmperorZolden | what's thepiratebay's working adress? |
| 17:14.30 | EmperorZolden | they changed domain name 2 times during 3 days |
| 17:16.12 | EmperorZolden | oh, it's http://thepiratebay.pe/ |
| 17:16.24 | EmperorZolden | pe means penis |
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| 17:35.28 | Ahli | anyone received an invitation to the Influencer Summit in Paris? |
| 17:39.22 | G0A | what is Influencer Summit anyway? |
| 17:50.02 | kingTD | so best part of that song if from other that starts 7 min? |
| 17:50.33 | G0A | yes |
| 17:51.36 | G0A | dammit an excellent rpg idea poped into mind |
| 17:52.40 | Bommes | what's special about listening to Michael Jackson? |
| 18:04.15 | G0A | Zolden we could test random sldie now.D |
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| 18:19.02 | Ahli | tour through the office, meet other" influncers", meet Blizzard's EU staff, travel and overnight stuff is payed. |
| 18:19.08 | Zolden | G0A ok, sec |
| 18:23.11 | kingTD | fake and gay |
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| 18:44.22 | Zolden | lake abd bay |
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| 18:54.37 | Zolden | ArcanePariah do you play cutscenes on map terrain? |
| 18:54.42 | G0A | Zolden If you bored of Jackson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGhvcJuX3dA |
| 18:55.08 | Zolden | I downloaded marillion and yes, hope they will amuse me |
| 18:55.17 | Zolden | fuck jackson in his black and white ass |
| 18:57.19 | Zolden | funny how they using dirty rock timbres |
| 18:57.23 | Zolden | those 1200 guys |
| 18:57.30 | Zolden | i remember them clean and trancy |
| 18:58.15 | G0A | Yeah 1200 guys are crazy bastards |
| 18:58.27 | G0A | they have new EP full of movie quites |
| 18:58.33 | G0A | quotes |
| 18:59.21 | Zolden | G0A random slide need more trakc types |
| 18:59.23 | Zolden | 3 is boring |
| 18:59.34 | Zolden | add one with puch missiles |
| 18:59.35 | G0A | yeah |
| 18:59.50 | G0A | Also I think I will remove that jump obsticle and make it as a skill. |
| 19:00.12 | G0A | no player vs player battle Zolden |
| 19:00.15 | Zolden | also, ad more randomness to that long slide thing |
| 19:00.20 | Zolden | let it be new every time |
| 19:00.27 | G0A | it is |
| 19:00.41 | G0A | cant be more random than that |
| 19:00.49 | Zolden | ok |
| 19:00.54 | Zolden | than more types |
| 19:01.16 | G0A | there is a coop type that we didnt played |
| 19:01.47 | G0A | maybe a mode where everyone has a segment to make and than we play on it |
| 19:04.01 | ArcanePariah | Zolden yes, we basically do it like blizzard, freeze everything on the map, pause all loops (by setting a condition inside them to check for a boolean) and periodic triggers, then do the cutscene (combination of camara, unit movements, sounds played, etc.) then unpause everything, and revert back to main game camara |
| 19:04.34 | ArcanePariah | I'm still working on refining the few we have |
| 19:04.54 | ArcanePariah | Don't exactly have choreographer or director skills :P |
| 19:05.57 | Zolden | ArcanePariah do you know about cse-made cutscenes, that are played in dialog and using cutscene world copy of terrain? |
| 19:06.46 | Zolden | for example, I made this in cse http://i.snag.gy/lnpUZ.jpg and it doesn't show the terrain when played in dialog, only the models |
| 19:07.45 | ArcanePariah | No, I have not experimented with that. |
| 19:08.27 | Zolden | looks like artestru is the only one who knows ;/ |
| 19:10.16 | ArcanePariah | Ok, this map be something you have already done, but you did add the cutscene to the map, correct? |
| 19:31.45 | Zolden | ArcanePariah Yes, map is exist, It's present in cse, and I created the scene on it, and then, in game, I created a cutscene for a dialog item, and it appeared mapless |
| 19:31.54 | Zolden | only units, trees, no terrain |
| 19:32.00 | ArcanePariah | Hmm... |
| 19:33.29 | Zolden | I set map light to darkness to not see it behind the scene i'm playing in dialog |
| 19:33.42 | Zolden | but i haven't used the terrain before |
| 19:33.46 | Zolden | and it was fine |
| 19:38.15 | ArcanePariah | I'm assuming you are creating a dialog item of type cutscene, then using the Play Cutscene action and passing in the dialog item to play it? |
| 19:38.56 | ArcanePariah | You can also use the Create Cutscene action |
| 19:39.30 | ArcanePariah | That's how Blizzard did it in the campaign, for like the leviathan arriving or departing a system |
| 19:39.33 | ArcanePariah | among others |
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| 19:42.02 | Zolden | ArcanePariah yes, I create cutscene type of dialog item and set a cutscene for it, then it plays |
| 19:42.31 | Zolden | leviathan cutscene doesn't have terrain, it has skybox and models, it works for me too |
| 19:43.03 | ArcanePariah | ok, dumb question, what is a skybox? |
| 19:43.13 | ArcanePariah | is it basically a 3d background? |
| 19:43.35 | ArcanePariah | as in, a background that will be viewable from any angle within the skybox |
| 19:43.53 | Zolden | it's a model, like a sphere, and when you create it, the camera should and is inside this sphere, and can see its inner surface, which is a texture of sky |
| 19:44.10 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:44.42 | Zolden | the scene i linked a screen of has a sky, and it's a skybox |
| 19:45.17 | Zolden | there's also sky parallax, which seem to have a light source that affects all objects, also may have asteroids |
| 19:45.25 | Zolden | but i'm not sure is it's the only difference |
| 19:45.55 | ArcanePariah | Ok |
| 19:46.35 | ArcanePariah | Hmm.... then I'm not sure this can be done in the cutscene editor alone, Blizzard used numerous triggers to do in game cutscenes |
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| 19:47.10 | mille25 | hi |
| 19:47.15 | ArcanePariah | I would say just examine how Blizzard wove it all together in the various ZStory missions |
| 19:47.36 | mille25 | finally got my new internet connection today, byebye stoneage :D |
| 19:47.46 | ArcanePariah | Good time :D |
| 19:47.51 | ArcanePariah | What you got now? |
| 19:47.57 | Zolden | well, terrain is present in cutscene editor by default, and even if we disable ground visualisation, it will still haas the height of map ground, so it's realy weired that it disappears when we play the scene |
| 19:48.12 | mille25 | ArcanePariah: 50/10, more isnt available right now |
| 19:48.21 | ArcanePariah | You lucky sob |
| 19:48.38 | ArcanePariah | I'm stuck with ATT Uverse.... 24/3 but unstable at times... |
| 19:48.44 | mille25 | id really like 100/100 though :P |
| 19:48.50 | ArcanePariah | I'm assuming you have cable or FioS? |
| 19:49.07 | mille25 | its vectoring |
| 19:49.11 | mille25 | normal chopper cable |
| 19:49.15 | Zolden | what is the difference between downloading a new apisode of your favorite series for 1 or for 3 seconds? |
| 19:49.36 | mille25 | but fiber to the allocator |
| 19:50.01 | ArcanePariah | Not much, but when you want to download the latest episode for 5 tv shows + a movie + a game while streaming netflix |
| 19:50.19 | mille25 | its mainly about the upload speed for me |
| 19:50.27 | Zolden | mille25 do you know about playing premade cutscenes in dialogs and have a terrain in those scenes? |
| 19:50.31 | mille25 | but download is helpful too, especially when i watch hd streams |
| 19:50.56 | Zolden | can hd stream consume more then 2-3 mbps? |
| 19:50.57 | mille25 | Zolden: sorry, never worked with cutscenes. im really just a system programmer |
| 19:51.17 | Zolden | alright |
| 19:51.28 | ArcanePariah | Zolden: Yes, raw 1080p (not compressed crap) will chew through 20+ easy |
| 19:51.55 | Zolden | who are those brave people who stream uncompressed video? |
| 19:52.00 | mille25 | :D |
| 19:52.09 | ArcanePariah | Avg Blu ray is about 30 gigs and plays back in 2 hours, so to stream it would require /me does math |
| 19:52.13 | ArcanePariah | does math |
| 19:52.16 | mille25 | i had lots of problems watching streams with my old connection though |
| 19:52.27 | mille25 | had 11mbit down |
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| 19:53.28 | ArcanePariah | For a 30 gig blu ray that lasts 2 hours, you need to stream at 4.2 MB/s or roughly 33 Mb/s |
| 19:53.30 | Zolden | 15 gigs/3600 seconds = 5/1200 = 1/72 ~ 13 mb/s |
| 19:54.55 | Zolden | crap, my math just sucked |
| 19:55.30 | Zolden | 5/1200 = 1/240 which is probably those 4.2 MB you mentioned |
| 19:55.34 | ArcanePariah | Yeah |
| 19:55.41 | ArcanePariah | then * 8 to get Mb |
| 19:55.43 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:56.09 | ArcanePariah | So yeah, a 30 gig blu ray would lag on any connect less then mille25's |
| 19:56.17 | ArcanePariah | and that's only a 30 gig one |
| 19:56.23 | ArcanePariah | blu ray can go to 40 |
| 19:56.58 | Zolden | real problem is package organisation of internet protocol, it can't be as fast as system bus |
| 19:57.16 | Zolden | so we can't use other processors in a dircet thread |
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| 20:10.31 | DeadZergling | Zolden, had no idea you were in the states: https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/7950752512/hB301E96E/ |
| 20:11.11 | Zolden | maybe it's twod? |
| 20:11.56 | DeadZergling | nah, he woulda died in a shootout |
| 20:18.25 | kingTD | well he looks kinda like me, jk |
| 20:18.32 | kingTD | he is wayyyyyy to dark fucker |
| 20:18.42 | kingTD | too big of a nigger |
| 20:19.43 | DeadZergling | sure you are looking at the right picture, that guy isn't dark or big at all |
| 20:26.26 | Zandose | how do i add a album of pictues to the forum? |
| 20:34.18 | Zandose | nevermind |
| 20:41.29 | Ahli | maintenance... |
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| 20:46.39 | Bounty | You there JademusSreg? |
| 21:17.45 | Bommes | I think "Man pulls sword, then pays for tacos" would be far more interesting circumstances. |
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| 22:23.37 | MoonEater | hi zolden |
| 22:25.20 | Zolden | hi |
| 22:25.48 | DeadZergling | Hello Alucard of the Month |
| 22:28.35 | MoonEater | Zoldne i have a question |
| 22:28.41 | MoonEater | let me get an immage also |
| 22:29.27 | MoonEater | im doing that sprite thing although when i use tileing line appear between ground tile sprite. |
| 22:29.41 | MoonEater | im doing that sprite thing although when i use tileing, lines appear between ground tile sprite. |
| 22:29.47 | MoonEater | thats a needed comma |
| 22:30.01 | Zolden | and a screen |
| 22:30.13 | MoonEater | working on it 1 sec |
| 22:30.42 | MoonEater | https://www.dropbox.com/s/88hclb7ue9kppgl/Screenshot2013-11-08%2018_35_55.jpg |
| 22:30.51 | MoonEater | they should be lined up perfectly |
| 22:31.00 | MoonEater | and its abit sparatic |
| 22:32.44 | Zolden | can upi make them a bit bigger to intersect? |
| 22:34.30 | MoonEater | i could |
| 22:34.38 | MoonEater | but the sizes r really defined as is |
| 22:34.51 | MoonEater | very accurate |
| 22:35.13 | MoonEater | they should line up perfectly |
| 22:35.27 | Zolden | i don't know whay they don't |
| 22:35.35 | Zolden | jsut try to sacle up |
| 22:35.42 | MoonEater | ok lets see |
| 22:37.16 | DeadZergling | that zealot seems lost |
| 22:37.21 | MoonEater | wait |
| 22:37.24 | MoonEater | Zolden |
| 22:37.45 | MoonEater | notice that when they r the same they touch perfectly but when its different they done? |
| 22:37.47 | MoonEater | ont* |
| 22:39.36 | Zolden | are they splats? |
| 22:39.53 | MoonEater | they r units |
| 22:40.12 | Zolden | those terrain things are units? |
| 22:40.39 | MoonEater | yes |
| 22:40.58 | MoonEater | cause its easyer for me to minipulate them in triggers |
| 22:41.05 | MoonEater | and separate them |
| 22:41.31 | Zolden | ok, it's units using splat models? |
| 22:41.49 | MoonEater | no the flat plane model you gave me |
| 22:42.13 | Zolden | I think splat would work better |
| 22:42.36 | MoonEater | you have a splat model? |
| 22:42.43 | MoonEater | i can resend you the plane |
| 22:43.32 | Zolden | what? |
| 22:44.10 | MoonEater | nvm i was being dumb |
| 22:44.15 | Zolden | yea |
| 22:44.17 | MoonEater | i just changed the model class to splat? |
| 22:44.27 | Zolden | model should be splat too |
| 22:44.56 | DeadZergling | units huh MoonEater, does that mean you utilize terrain swapping(or rather unit), to make the world seem much bigger? |
| 22:45.00 | MoonEater | you mean the m3? |
| 22:45.38 | Zolden | yea |
| 22:45.46 | Zolden | go to art tool, make a projector |
| 22:50.23 | Zandose | has anyone made a library for larger arrays? |
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| 22:51.02 | DeadZergling | probably not, people tend to avoid libraries |
| 22:51.06 | MoonEater | Zolden i crashed, please resend last chats |
| 22:51.38 | MoonEater | exactly |
| 22:51.50 | MoonEater | to perk it up |
| 22:51.54 | MoonEater | i subdivide the map |
| 22:51.57 | MoonEater | into 4 regions |
| 22:52.09 | MoonEater | so if theres 4 players in the game they can wonder off |
| 22:52.19 | MoonEater | in addition level design has the possibility to be endless |
| 22:52.33 | MoonEater | i could make triggers to generate and save terrains endlessly |
| 22:52.49 | Zandose | terrain deformers? |
| 22:53.00 | MoonEater | no |
| 22:53.02 | DeadZergling | aye, world being huge definitely makes this approach much more interesting |
| 22:53.16 | MoonEater | thats why i chose this sprite system |
| 22:53.19 | MoonEater | if you want |
| 22:53.23 | MoonEater | you can demo what i have |
| 22:53.40 | MoonEater | also it turns out building the worlds is easyer todo from within game |
| 22:54.03 | MoonEater | so i wrote triggers that export the built worlds to galaxy |
| 22:54.05 | DeadZergling | only if it doesn't require HoTS |
| 22:54.20 | MoonEater | i will probably do a cortex style map in parralel |
| 22:54.31 | MoonEater | it doesnt require hots |
| 22:54.40 | MoonEater | and 2.1 will allow free hots play |
| 22:54.50 | DeadZergling | that's good, as it'd be ridiculous to need any hots assets for that, lol |
| 22:55.06 | MoonEater | im really not even using wol |
| 22:55.07 | MoonEater | XD |
| 22:55.16 | DeadZergling | your zealot disagrees |
| 22:55.49 | DeadZergling | or you simply referring to campaign units? |
| 22:56.25 | MoonEater | well the wasd controls |
| 22:56.29 | MoonEater | i made them universial |
| 22:56.37 | MoonEater | they work on sprites or sc2 units |
| 22:56.49 | MoonEater | and i can switch them at will |
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| 22:56.58 | MoonEater | Zolden? |
| 22:57.44 | MoonEater | deadzergling |
| 22:57.54 | MoonEater | zandose != Zolden right? |
| 22:58.10 | DeadZergling | zandose seems kind of new |
| 22:58.15 | DeadZergling | he is not zolden |
| 22:58.44 | MoonEater | anyways |
| 22:58.48 | MoonEater | since zolden is gone |
| 22:58.53 | MoonEater | ima go work on sprite's quest |
| 22:59.04 | MoonEater | i can show u the cortex stuff if you want deadzergling |
| 22:59.14 | DeadZergling | up to you, I'm at work at the moment |
| 22:59.20 | DeadZergling | so I can't exactly get on bnet right now |
| 23:00.04 | MoonEater | well that blows |
| 23:01.33 | DeadZergling | Is just always interesting to see what others in here been up to |
| 23:02.07 | MoonEater | well last couple weeks i been up with school and dark souls |
| 23:02.14 | MoonEater | working on sprite's quest is time draining |
| 23:02.26 | MoonEater | i need to do it longer steetches at a time |
| 23:02.37 | DeadZergling | those video games really cut into editing time don't they? lol |
| 23:02.38 | MoonEater | cause it most efficient to add sprite's in bulk |
| 23:03.02 | MoonEater | well unlike other i tend to complete the game weither its hald baked or not |
| 23:03.09 | DeadZergling | Know the feeling, I want to kill something every time there are item updates to be made. |
| 23:04.00 | MoonEater | nice thing about sprite's quest is i dont have to do much work once i enter beta |
| 23:04.14 | MoonEater | im sure players will come forward with all the stuff i need |
| 23:04.19 | MoonEater | begging me to finish |
| 23:04.23 | MoonEater | or make sequals |
| 23:04.29 | MoonEater | or different versions |
| 23:04.55 | Zandose | is Zandose and noy Zolden. Zolden is Zolden and noy Zandose. Okay? |
| 23:05.26 | MoonEater | we established that awhile back |
| 23:05.28 | MoonEater | thanks tho |
| 23:05.36 | Zandose | is slow.... |
| 23:05.49 | Zandose | is doing 4-5 things |
| 23:06.15 | DeadZergling | I keep discovering more crap to do with mine, is just terrible |
| 23:06.34 | MoonEater | lolz just think about it |
| 23:06.48 | MoonEater | a whole complex rp/rpg sprite engine |
| 23:07.04 | MoonEater | that allows users to build me worlds and shit |
| 23:07.11 | MoonEater | ima be overwhelmed |
| 23:07.20 | MoonEater | skys the limit |
| 23:08.01 | Zandose | you say sprites but their just models/tiles with textures right? |
| 23:08.17 | MoonEater | yeppers |
| 23:09.14 | DeadZergling | yea, is probably why crap like starbound/minecraft so popular |
| 23:09.19 | DeadZergling | is simple to make |
| 23:09.24 | MoonEater | yes |
| 23:09.32 | MoonEater | well im going for replayability |
| 23:09.42 | MoonEater | but i think once i hit beta |
| 23:09.50 | MoonEater | ill blow up like starcraft universe |
| 23:09.55 | MoonEater | maybe not as much |
| 23:10.29 | MoonEater | but i already have people asking me about it and ive release 0 content |
| 23:11.21 | DeadZergling | I hope not quite like SCU |
| 23:11.25 | DeadZergling | hope yours is actually fun |
| 23:12.14 | MoonEater | well thats the thing |
| 23:12.25 | MoonEater | i plan to release multiple stories and plots |
| 23:12.44 | MoonEater | scu makes the same game under different conditions |
| 23:13.00 | MoonEater | i plan to make different plots and charaters and skills |
| 23:13.13 | MoonEater | go modding... |
| 23:13.15 | MoonEater | XD |
| 23:15.53 | DeadZergling | issue with all this 3d and crap, takes far too many resources to get anything real done |
| 23:16.05 | MoonEater | true |
| 23:16.10 | MoonEater | totaly agree |
| 23:17.11 | DeadZergling | with the tools available now, any one with some programming knowledge, maybe a resource or two to ask questions |
| 23:17.16 | MoonEater | my biggest worrie is copyright |
| 23:17.16 | DeadZergling | could make a simple 2d game in a few months |
| 23:17.21 | MoonEater | link is in the game |
| 23:17.32 | DeadZergling | got a solution for you |
| 23:17.37 | DeadZergling | draw your own character |
| 23:17.46 | MoonEater | i knew ull say somthing dumb like that |
| 23:17.49 | MoonEater | i probably will |
| 23:17.58 | DeadZergling | not dumb |
| 23:18.48 | MoonEater | well i have a solution |
| 23:18.59 | MoonEater | i cant draw but hopfully when i go beta |
| 23:19.04 | MoonEater | i can get the help i need |
| 23:19.22 | DeadZergling | it is pixel art, it can be forced, lol |
| 23:19.34 | MoonEater | you been surpised |
| 23:19.45 | MoonEater | 16x16 is not as easy as u think |
| 23:19.52 | MoonEater | well its 16x32 |
| 23:19.52 | DeadZergling | dude |
| 23:19.54 | MoonEater | but still |
| 23:20.07 | DeadZergling | you have any idea how many 72x72 I been making for item icons |
| 23:20.27 | MoonEater | lolz haha |
| 23:20.32 | DeadZergling | I don't copy paste either, from scratch |
| 23:20.58 | MoonEater | like snes legend of zelda... those tiles are very high quality few games come close to it |
| 23:21.28 | DeadZergling | I know all about how time consuming it is |
| 23:21.43 | DeadZergling | any idea how damn hard it is to make 72x72 look like cloth or leather? |
| 23:22.17 | DeadZergling | non-rigid stuff sucks to draw |
| 23:22.32 | DeadZergling | I'd highly recommend your character having rigid plate armor, lol |
| 23:22.39 | MoonEater | haha ill have to call my mom for art help like i did in elementary |
| 23:23.03 | DeadZergling | anyways, I started with no real talent or skill in drawing from scratch |
| 23:23.22 | DeadZergling | my icons aren't going to go down in history as irreplaceable treasures, timeless classics |
| 23:24.14 | DeadZergling | but they tell you what it is, make you feel like you are in a different world, etc |
| 23:24.58 | MoonEater | wow sc2 is dying |
| 23:25.03 | MoonEater | player base is moving on |
| 23:27.03 | DeadZergling | well that was random :P |
| 23:28.36 | MoonEater | im looking at the channels |
| 23:28.43 | MoonEater | usaly theres alot more in therem |
| 23:28.48 | MoonEater | liek 20-40+ |
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| 23:30.42 | DeadZergling | it's been dying really |
| 23:30.53 | DeadZergling | Need to freaking release my crap while there is still people to release it to, lol |
| 23:31.20 | MoonEater | 2.1 will revitalize sc2 |
| 23:31.31 | MoonEater | if the sc2mapsters can produce more maps |
| 23:31.53 | MoonEater | makes me feel like our maps could fix sc2 |
| 23:33.14 | DeadZergling | maybe, if I could ever be happy with anything and just leave well enough alone |
| 23:33.34 | DeadZergling | my perfectionism has really been getting in the way of progress lately, lol |
| 23:33.47 | MoonEater | they should add flags to mods. like im going to make a audio pack mod |
| 23:34.00 | MoonEater | but it would be nice if players could vote to download or not |
| 23:35.20 | DeadZergling | voting gets kind of annoying to see, really |
| 23:35.31 | DeadZergling | just let me play the damned map |
| 23:35.41 | MoonEater | note vote |
| 23:35.46 | MoonEater | vote is the wrong word |
| 23:35.49 | MoonEater | option to add the mod |
| 23:36.26 | DeadZergling | yea okay, that makes a lot more sense |
| 23:38.48 | DeadZergling | anyways, gonna force myself to be happy with my last class's casting animations, perfect a few other things tonight, and make myself get onto the trigger side of thigns |
| 23:38.54 | DeadZergling | so I can actually move forward, lol |
