| 00:00.05 | Zolden | and this anyone can learn in about 2-3 games |
| 00:00.23 | Zolden | and i usually suck at arcade maps |
| 00:00.24 | MoonEater916 | im totatly lost |
| 00:00.32 | MoonEater916 | going to take me a month to figure this shit out |
| 00:00.35 | DeadZergling | well, that includes, a1win doesn't radically change it again |
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| 00:00.50 | DeadZergling | I played it twice, second time was much different, lol |
| 00:00.58 | A1win | ;x |
| 00:01.14 | A1win | I think it's almost where I want it |
| 00:01.19 | A1win | the controls feel pretty solid now |
| 00:01.19 | MoonEater916 | Zolden, talk to me for a sec |
| 00:01.39 | MoonEater916 | im all messed up with the sword model |
| 00:06.54 | Zolden | what's the problem MoonEater916 |
| 00:08.49 | A1win | I feel the name could have something to do with gravity D: |
| 00:09.13 | A1win | should have, that is |
| 00:09.15 | Zolden | "pewity" |
| 00:09.26 | Zolden | or gravipew |
| 00:09.42 | A1win | or something related to gravity, like attraction, orbit, mass |
| 00:11.23 | A1win | though there isn't much orbiting involved |
| 00:13.27 | DeadZergling | Orbital Fighters, Orbital Invaders, Gravity Destroyers |
| 00:13.37 | DeadZergling | should make the planets destructible, lol |
| 00:13.46 | A1win | ;> |
| 00:14.08 | DeadZergling | how awesome would that be, have a guy chasing after you with the rocket launcher |
| 00:14.16 | DeadZergling | he misses, but suddenly asteroids are everyhwere |
| 00:15.06 | DeadZergling | let them slowly be destroyed, be a barren wasteland of fiery asteroids near the end |
| 00:15.53 | A1win | could be neat to throw in random asteroids from outside the map |
| 00:15.58 | Zolden | yea, asteroids orbitibg around planets is a nice idea |
| 00:16.10 | DeadZergling | *and destructible planets* |
| 00:16.25 | Zolden | they can have a primitive ai, that would add some speed if it gets lower to the planet, and reduce speed if get higher |
| 00:16.34 | Zolden | so it will keep it orbiting |
| 00:16.59 | A1win | they'd just get stuck in one place |
| 00:17.07 | A1win | the gravity from other planets is so high |
| 00:17.11 | A1win | the pickups already do that |
| 00:17.15 | DeadZergling | just treat them like high health no laser drones |
| 00:17.16 | A1win | need to make those better too |
| 00:17.25 | DeadZergling | be the best way to handle random asteroids |
| 00:17.35 | Zolden | orbit is actually an attractor |
| 00:17.40 | DeadZergling | *and destructible planets* |
| 00:17.41 | A1win | the drones are just projectiles, they don't have angi-gravity stuff |
| 00:17.50 | A1win | *anti |
| 00:18.09 | DeadZergling | just so boring, giant explosions on planets |
| 00:18.14 | DeadZergling | and no destruction occurs |
| 00:18.18 | A1win | ;X |
| 00:18.38 | A1win | I can't imagine how it'd be good for the mechanics |
| 00:18.49 | DeadZergling | where is your physics then, mr. had to have gravity! |
| 00:18.55 | A1win | would just make the map more boring when it loses obstacles |
| 00:19.08 | DeadZergling | naw |
| 00:19.16 | DeadZergling | set it up when so many planets meet an end |
| 00:19.24 | DeadZergling | giant asteroids start appearing |
| 00:19.52 | DeadZergling | well guys looks like easy mode is over |
| 00:19.57 | DeadZergling | incoming universe killer! |
| 00:20.02 | A1win | ;x |
| 00:20.07 | DeadZergling | well okay probably not that big |
| 00:20.11 | DeadZergling | but you know what I mean :) |
| 00:20.17 | A1win | random asteroids sounds good though |
| 00:20.54 | DeadZergling | *and destructible planets* |
| 00:21.09 | A1win | can't even imagine how that would work |
| 00:21.37 | A1win | planet breaks into pieces -> pieces stick together as an odd mass of rocks |
| 00:21.52 | A1win | and the map becomes even harder to navigate than it already is |
| 00:21.52 | DeadZergling | naw, they'd just either get shot into non-existence |
| 00:22.11 | DeadZergling | or crash into the boundary or a planet or ship |
| 00:22.17 | DeadZergling | and again dissapear into nonexistence |
| 00:22.28 | A1win | so the map just vanishes? <.< |
| 00:22.41 | DeadZergling | no, is why the giant asteroids start appearing |
| 00:22.41 | Zandose | is there a way to check which units can been seen by a players camera? |
| 00:23.00 | DeadZergling | not just random ones, but ones as big or bigger than planets |
| 00:23.03 | A1win | but planets vanishing into non-existance makes even less sense than them not breaking in the first place :P |
| 00:23.04 | DeadZergling | that move across the screen |
| 00:23.24 | DeadZergling | is a game dude, you are allowed to divide by zero |
| 00:23.53 | Ahli | even a function in sc2 did that... |
| 00:23.59 | A1win | can't make big things (that have gravity) move, too much computation |
| 00:24.04 | DeadZergling | and create matter for that matter, where exactly do all those drones come from |
| 00:25.28 | A1win | and it's not like big explosions destroy planets anyway, they just destroy stuff *on* the planets |
| 00:25.46 | A1win | would be neat if they applied decals on the planets but that probably isn't possible ;p |
| 00:26.27 | DeadZergling | sure it is, just apply faded images of craters/black singes on top |
| 00:27.05 | A1win | the planets rotate |
| 00:27.08 | DeadZergling | but anyways, your big explosions not killing planets doesn't make sense, I mean think about it. |
| 00:27.20 | DeadZergling | The ships are like 1/10th the size of the planet, at the most. |
| 00:27.29 | A1win | ;p not even close |
| 00:27.34 | A1win | maybe on diameter |
| 00:27.41 | DeadZergling | Just took out a highly sophisticated ship, with shields, a special emergency shield, etceteras |
| 00:27.58 | DeadZergling | But captain, we can't break through the planet's highly evolved dirt and rock defenses! |
| 00:28.02 | DeadZergling | Our weapons sir, they can't handle it! |
| 00:28.05 | A1win | ;> |
| 00:28.19 | DeadZergling | is fine if you don't want them to |
| 00:28.27 | DeadZergling | but don't try to make it logical, because it is not :) |
| 00:28.28 | A1win | where does the dirt and rock go when you "break" it? |
| 00:28.47 | DeadZergling | into space as dustsplosion actors and asteroids |
| 00:28.57 | DeadZergling | the asteroids act as high health drones w/ no lasers |
| 00:29.06 | DeadZergling | but no homing, they just kinda go their merry way |
| 00:29.29 | A1win | then when the planet has taken too much damage, it just disappears? |
| 00:29.57 | DeadZergling | it would disintegrate, visually, not saying it would be easy |
| 00:30.43 | A1win | fully destructible environment is usually not a very good gameplay element in any game |
| 00:31.27 | DeadZergling | is a space shooter game |
| 00:31.36 | DeadZergling | half of them don't even have an environment.... |
| 00:31.53 | A1win | and that's why they are so boring |
| 00:31.54 | A1win | D: |
| 00:32.28 | A1win | I'd rather add stuff to this environment than take it away |
| 00:32.43 | DeadZergling | Not saying have nothing in it |
| 00:32.43 | A1win | would be nice to have it so that not every part of the planetary cluster is similar |
| 00:32.58 | DeadZergling | just have it be more dynamic |
| 00:38.07 | A1win | hmm... maybe add hard-orbit moons on some planets, like so that nothing can stop their movement |
| 00:38.48 | A1win | which reminds me I need to make units on planet orbit use move order instead of instant move, it appears to stutter somehow |
| 00:39.17 | DeadZergling | was watching your take 9 on deathmatch |
| 00:39.25 | DeadZergling | is a totally different freaking game just 8 days ago |
| 00:39.33 | A1win | haha |
| 00:39.49 | A1win | yeah it took a while to get the feel of the controls right |
| 00:39.55 | A1win | I've never made a game like this be fore |
| 00:39.57 | A1win | *before |
| 00:41.08 | DeadZergling | if you ever do a poll somewhere about what people would like to see next in your map, totally put delete gravity distortion planets cause on attacks |
| 00:41.16 | DeadZergling | I'm curious how many pick that one, lol |
| 00:41.43 | DeadZergling | yea yea I know, with skill you can do better |
| 00:41.45 | A1win | you want it made too easy ;> |
| 00:41.55 | DeadZergling | but I still see you and Z spamming the fuck out of every weapon |
| 00:42.26 | DeadZergling | because with skill, and spamming, you can do betterer |
| 00:42.27 | A1win | O.o I just found an unnecessary multiplication by timestep followed by a division by timestep, this done to every unit in the game on every game frame |
| 00:43.04 | A1win | which means the game is now like 0.01% more efficient! |
| 00:43.13 | A1win | (maybe a bit more) |
| 00:43.19 | DeadZergling | no, I know the whole point was gravity/physics or whichever |
| 00:43.34 | DeadZergling | but I'd still be very curious how many would vote to delete the gravity factor on attacks, lol |
| 00:43.55 | A1win | why wouldn't we spam the weapons considering there is no ammo/energy/whatever? even if there was no gravity, we'd still spam them |
| 00:44.14 | A1win | players don't always know what's best for the game's design :P |
| 00:44.39 | A1win | I mean, I could probably decrease the effect of gravity on the projectiles a bit, but not going to remove it completely |
| 00:44.44 | DeadZergling | true that, but I'd still be curious :) |
| 00:45.01 | A1win | and everyone would be angry at me for not taking the vote into account |
| 00:45.14 | DeadZergling | just because they suggest it doesn't mean it happens |
| 00:45.31 | MoonEater916 | Zolden sorry im back |
| 00:45.34 | A1win | why would I create a vote about it if I wasn't going to do anything about it :P |
| 00:45.46 | DeadZergling | just put in a more tempting option like |
| 00:46.11 | DeadZergling | the 5 top winners in the game will get a prostitute all expenses paid by a1win |
| 00:46.17 | A1win | if it's a huge issue, I'm sure I'm going to get feedback about it |
| 00:46.29 | DeadZergling | then just mention that part was actually a troll, lol |
| 00:46.45 | DeadZergling | Naw, I'm not expecting you to actually do that, but I'm still allowed to be curious about it. |
| 00:48.34 | DeadZergling | wonder if my kids will let me get a damn thing done tonight on my project |
| 00:51.12 | A1win | decreased gravity to 80% of what it was, adjusted ship and drone gravity factors so that it didn't affect their gravity (drones now have the same gravity as other projectiles to make things less confusing) |
| 00:53.20 | A1win | hmm could be neat if ships had some tiny blue leds on their black parts to indicate when their shields are on |
| 00:53.43 | Zolden | A1win got an abil idea: it makes all player projectiles heavily attract all other objects |
| 00:54.32 | A1win | dunno, would rather give attraction to some special kind of projectile, or maybe a mine |
| 00:54.37 | A1win | a magnet mine might be nice |
| 00:54.51 | Zolden | yea |
| 00:55.08 | A1win | but it needs to have shared cooldown with something |
| 00:55.12 | Zolden | "black hole mines" |
| 00:55.40 | A1win | otherwise everyone would always drop one as soon as its cooldown finishes |
| 00:55.56 | A1win | maybe I should have energy for abilities and aoe mode |
| 00:56.05 | A1win | put shield and hull bar on top of each other |
| 00:56.11 | A1win | and energy on the other side |
| 00:56.47 | A1win | could then have energy pickups too |
| 00:57.05 | A1win | and aoe mode wouldn't be something you use all the time, and could make it more powerful |
| 00:59.41 | A1win | oops, just realized that if I decrease a planet's mass to 80%, it doesn't actually make gravity 80% |
| 00:59.51 | A1win | ships feel heavier now ;p |
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| 01:02.39 | DeadZergling | so in other words |
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| 01:02.46 | DeadZergling | plans to make the game completely different once again? |
| 01:02.53 | A1win | ;x |
| 01:03.01 | A1win | just trying to decrease gravity for projectiles |
| 01:03.07 | A1win | without affecting ships |
| 01:03.16 | DeadZergling | was talking about the energy idea |
| 01:03.20 | A1win | ah |
| 01:03.51 | DeadZergling | that would change just about everything, lol |
| 01:03.59 | A1win | how so? |
| 01:04.15 | A1win | would just limit the use of abilities and aoe mode |
| 01:04.16 | DeadZergling | well, you planned to make all shots cost energy? |
| 01:04.22 | A1win | not normal shots |
| 01:05.06 | DeadZergling | hrrrmm, that wouldn't make sense |
| 01:05.30 | DeadZergling | 3 pew shots cost nothing, but 5 pew shots, suddenly my purple bar is going down? |
| 01:05.45 | A1win | mm dunno |
| 01:05.51 | A1win | maybe just for abilities then ;p |
| 01:05.57 | DeadZergling | is confusing is all I'm saying |
| 01:06.14 | A1win | because now you can just spam all abilities as soon as they are ready |
| 01:06.51 | DeadZergling | can, but isn't in your best interest to all the time |
| 01:07.16 | A1win | yeah with these, but if I add stuff like mines that you leave behind |
| 01:07.53 | DeadZergling | to me, make it cost energy, or make it cost cooldown timer |
| 01:08.00 | DeadZergling | both is a fail for most abilities |
| 01:08.34 | A1win | hmmf |
| 01:08.48 | A1win | mines could use charges too, though |
| 01:08.50 | DeadZergling | especially powerful ones are a special exception of course |
| 01:09.03 | DeadZergling | but otherwise no one ever uses it |
| 01:09.28 | A1win | (instead of energy I mean) |
| 01:10.53 | MoonEater916 | shit |
| 01:16.19 | A1win | woot I fixed my pickups being silly |
| 01:16.34 | A1win | smoothened out the anti-gravity component based on gravity strength |
| 01:17.24 | MoonEater916 | ive created a nightmate... |
| 01:17.27 | MoonEater916 | mare*] |
| 01:24.22 | MoonEater916 | the problem is that theres no sprite animation just texture swaps |
| 01:25.10 | MoonEater916 | trying to attach a weapon to a hand is like trying to hit a bullet with another bullet while riding a horse backwards and blindfolded.... |
| 01:25.13 | MoonEater916 | meh |
| 01:37.48 | A1win | woot applied that anti-gravity behavior to drones too and they make a lot more sense now |
| 01:37.55 | A1win | not crashing to every planet in their way |
| 01:51.04 | A1win | whee and fixed stutter when orbiting a planet by using move order instead of move unit instantly |
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| 02:33.22 | DeadZergling | amazing how putting thoughts on paper makes decision making so much easier |
| 02:44.40 | A1win | I put my thoughts on IRC :P |
| 02:45.10 | DeadZergling | yea, but they get torn a new one on here |
| 02:46.57 | A1win | can't get any sleep trying to come up with the name <.< |
| 02:53.28 | DeadZergling | could just go with one and be happy with it |
| 02:53.48 | DeadZergling | or could cancel it a few weeks later, cancelled because I couldn't find a name I was happy with |
| 02:55.54 | A1win | I'd just end up with another CraftCraft |
| 02:56.04 | A1win | StarStar |
| 02:56.24 | A1win | and next map is IIII |
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| 03:11.28 | DeadZergling | could just keep it as A1win Test Map |
| 03:12.03 | DeadZergling | or, A1win Super Test Map Brothers |
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| 05:26.46 | Stewox | terran up the night |
| 05:26.57 | Stewox | tearing up the night |
| 05:27.17 | Stewox | teardrop the night |
| 05:27.48 | Stewox | turn off the lights |
| 05:28.15 | Stewox | light* |
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| 05:47.25 | Renee | Does anyone know if you can report a harass reply in your map? Would blizzard delete them? |
| 06:07.14 | Stewox | not sure |
| 06:07.45 | Stewox | what's actually the problem |
| 06:07.51 | Stewox | just curious btw |
| 06:07.54 | Stewox | no big deal |
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| 09:15.54 | Delphinium | 0.0 |
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| 09:45.30 | DeadZergling | you awake again a1win, or finally get some sleep? |
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| 09:49.50 | Ahli | where is the promised PTR? :X |
| 09:50.00 | DeadZergling | PTR? |
| 09:50.07 | DeadZergling | 2.1? |
| 09:50.08 | Ahli | 2.1 test realm |
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| 10:04.49 | DeadZergling | hi duckies, saw your spaceship game |
| 10:05.04 | duckies | it was a1wins game |
| 10:05.11 | duckies | I have no spaceship games :D |
| 10:05.12 | DeadZergling | yea, but you were in it |
| 10:05.18 | DeadZergling | I know he is the one who made it |
| 10:05.46 | duckies | oh, yea, I'm okay with claiming any games I'm in :D |
| 10:05.48 | DeadZergling | made me feel better about how I do in 3 person a1win, zolden, and me |
| 10:06.00 | DeadZergling | seeing you other 4, lol |
| 10:06.41 | duckies | yeah, I'm pretty terrible at A1wins games q.q |
| 10:07.10 | DeadZergling | be funner with just regular people who didn't design it |
| 10:07.57 | duckies | creator usually wins, a cruel rule of most maps played on mapnight |
| 10:08.37 | DeadZergling | Zolden certainly broke that rule then! |
| 10:09.06 | duckies | Zolden is anomaly, we don't count him into the rules |
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| 10:09.38 | DeadZergling | give you a hint how to do better at a1win's spaceship game |
| 10:09.47 | DeadZergling | pick gun #3, the rocket launcher thing |
| 10:09.52 | DeadZergling | use that only, lol |
| 10:10.27 | duckies | it's that plasma thing? with Nova as second fire option? |
| 10:10.40 | DeadZergling | yea |
| 10:10.46 | DeadZergling | kills any ship in 3 shots |
| 10:10.49 | duckies | I figured you could change guns by 1-4 only 5 minutes before games ends >.< |
| 10:10.51 | DeadZergling | or less |
| 10:11.05 | duckies | yeah, a melee approach was fun |
| 10:11.23 | DeadZergling | nova isn't long enough range to be effective unfortunately |
| 10:11.31 | DeadZergling | may as well just crash into them |
| 10:11.36 | duckies | I could never hit anyone with normal shot |
| 10:11.47 | duckies | and ther's always shields too |
| 10:11.58 | DeadZergling | I know a1win loves his gravity in there |
| 10:12.05 | DeadZergling | but it'd be so much more playable without it, lol |
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| 10:12.36 | duckies | ^^ |
| 10:13.46 | DeadZergling | by the way quick text question for anyone here, can anyone see why this would bug out in a text tooltip? |
| 10:13.46 | DeadZergling | "<s val=\"MonospaceTemplate\"><c val=\"FFFF00\">Class: Bob From Accounting<n/><n/>Level: 43</c></s>" |
| 10:14.04 | DeadZergling | is driving me nuts, can't figure out what is going wrong |
| 10:16.33 | duckies | what's up with all those "\" ? |
| 10:16.46 | duckies | one is in brackets, other isn't |
| 10:16.58 | duckies | I don't think I ever used them |
| 10:17.09 | DeadZergling | is so you can use " |
| 10:17.14 | DeadZergling | and it knows not to end the string |
| 10:17.33 | DeadZergling | since you usually go string = " blah blah blah " |
| 10:17.48 | DeadZergling | but if you want " in there, you got " blah blah \" blah " |
| 10:18.22 | G0A | duckies I am getting addicted to this stupid heartstone |
| 10:18.32 | duckies | wanna play a game? :D |
| 10:18.45 | G0A | already playing one |
| 10:18.57 | duckies | what's you main char? |
| 10:19.03 | G0A | I am goa 2565 |
| 10:19.25 | G0A | I use mage and priest |
| 10:19.55 | duckies | hah, I'm a mage too =D |
| 10:20.11 | duckies | though a very crappy kind of mage |
| 10:20.14 | G0A | I hate mage:) |
| 10:20.25 | duckies | one who doesn't understand game at all '/ |
| 10:20.26 | G0A | I mean I switched to priest from mage |
| 10:20.30 | DeadZergling | interesting, something about how the string is getting formed is fucked up it seems |
| 10:20.42 | DeadZergling | at least I got the syntax right, now for fun with logic! |
| 10:21.02 | Bommes | duckies, stop fooling yourself, you have are a bird, not a mage |
| 10:21.18 | Bommes | nothing you will ever say makes your beak disappear |
| 10:22.04 | duckies | how about a mage bird? |
| 10:22.19 | Bommes | don't be silly, such a thing doesn't exist |
| 10:22.39 | Bommes | you can't cast spells by flapping wings |
| 10:22.59 | duckies | how about a duck with a magical beak? |
| 10:24.20 | Bommes | ok if magical beak is some kind of codeword for a penis, I don't get it |
| 10:25.12 | duckies | come on bommes, where's your inner child, why don't you beliiiiiiiiive! |
| 10:25.19 | G0A | what legue are you ducky? |
| 10:25.41 | duckies | I'm.. unranked, cause I have no cards other than default |
| 10:25.42 | duckies | :D |
| 10:26.04 | G0A | you only play practice or what? |
| 10:26.21 | duckies | I was kinda just doing quests for gold |
| 10:26.49 | duckies | doesn't look like there is much incentive to play ranked.. |
| 10:27.17 | G0A | quests run out fast |
| 10:27.45 | duckies | yea, I kinda played just 3 games a day >.< |
| 10:28.35 | G0A | I played too much yesterday |
| 10:29.05 | duckies | farewell game design, hello heartstone addiction =D |
| 10:29.31 | DeadZergling | I wasted a good couple hours on ghouls and ghosts |
| 10:30.14 | DeadZergling | ridiculously hard game |
| 10:30.48 | duckies | ghosts ands goblins? |
| 10:31.07 | DeadZergling | was several different ones |
| 10:31.21 | DeadZergling | ghosts and goblins was NES 8 bit i think |
| 10:32.04 | duckies | at some point I was making a map inspired by its soundtrack and aestethics, but then my pc crashed and corrupted map data, a harsh reminder to always back up everything you do T_T.. didn't fell like mapping for a while after that |
| 10:32.09 | duckies | yeah, you're right |
| 10:32.57 | DeadZergling | one I was playing was Sega Genesis edition |
| 10:33.34 | DeadZergling | levels ridiculously hard, bosses hard, level 5 or 6 or whatever, how in the fuck do you ever beat this hard |
| 10:33.51 | DeadZergling | take all the bosses you already beat, line them up, multiply them in some cases |
| 10:33.59 | DeadZergling | and you have to beat them all in one go or start over |
| 10:34.28 | duckies | ah, the good old nintendo hard difficulty, delicious :3 |
| 10:34.51 | DeadZergling | yea, why make long levels full of content |
| 10:34.52 | G0A | and I loose |
| 10:34.55 | DeadZergling | when you can just make it stupid hard |
| 10:34.57 | G0A | fucking shiiit |
| 10:35.13 | duckies | dw, I'll probably lose to you, so lets go! |
| 10:36.15 | DeadZergling | anyways, I banned myself from playing it any more |
| 10:36.23 | DeadZergling | so I get something done on my project for a change |
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| 10:46.53 | G0A | fucking lucker ducky:D |
| 10:47.04 | duckies | isn't that's how it always is, mm? :> |
| 10:47.14 | G0A | yeah |
| 10:47.41 | duckies | looks like games vs friends don't count on daily quests |
| 10:49.18 | G0A | you are doomed |
| 10:57.24 | G0A | what if we run out of cards from the deck? |
| 11:02.11 | duckies | no idea |
| 11:03.29 | G0A | we could have tested it |
| 11:04.23 | G0A | waiting for you |
| 11:04.45 | duckies | appears your health goes down |
| 11:04.56 | duckies | if you have no cards |
| 11:06.51 | DeadZergling | sigh editor, why must you give me such nonsensical error messages |
| 11:28.02 | Zolden | DeadZergling how sensical would your error messages be if all those noobs editor have to deal with would surround you? |
| 11:32.27 | A1win | I should probably make blop gun 4-shot ships and make it shoot slightlu faster |
| 11:32.58 | A1win | and do something about its 2nd mode |
| 11:34.03 | A1win | maybe just increase radius a little |
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| 11:58.20 | Zolden | kingTD what "TD" means in your nickname? total destruction? tower defence? triple doubling? trading diamonds? tragic disgrace? touch down? toilet defecation? monkey jump? |
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| 11:58.48 | kingTD | monkey jump |
| 11:59.24 | Zolden | oh, sad i didn't input it in my list of suppositions, was so obvious |
| 12:02.33 | Zolden | watched sos' play in blizzcon vs jaedong, very rapy, poor jaedong looked like a defenceless noob |
| 12:06.50 | G0A | link? |
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| 12:22.24 | A1win | Microcosmos |
| 12:25.31 | A1win | name for the map :I |
| 12:28.36 | DeadZergling | sorry A1win , but A1win Test map is literally a better name than that one |
| 12:28.51 | A1win | why? D: |
| 12:29.41 | DeadZergling | describes it better, what does microcosmos have to do with that map in any way? |
| 12:30.10 | DeadZergling | may as well name it The Amazing Spiderman if you wanna use that.... |
| 12:30.46 | A1win | it's not a literal name ;p |
| 12:32.04 | Zolden | G0A http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=blizzcon+2013+jaedong+vs+sos&sm=3 |
| 12:32.32 | Zolden | A1win how about micropewsmos? |
| 12:32.32 | duckies | microcosmos is too scientific.. makes me think about some sort of space ants colony sim |
| 12:32.48 | duckies | is your map a space ants colony sim a1win? |
| 12:32.54 | duckies | if not, don't name it so |
| 12:33.09 | Zolden | also, microcosmos would look like a reference to that "consume others" game |
| 12:34.33 | A1win | fine, I'll think of something else ;p |
| 12:37.35 | A1win | space monkey jump |
| 12:37.52 | Zolden | if you ask me, I still like that Jade's "Pews in space", because it explains game's substance, and also a funny reference |
| 12:38.11 | A1win | reference to what? |
| 12:38.37 | A1win | it also abbreviates to PiS ;p |
| 12:39.07 | Zolden | space monkey jump is ambiguous, they can interpret it as "(space monkey) jump" or "space (monkey jump)" |
| 12:39.59 | A1win | monkey space jump |
| 12:40.04 | A1win | warpspace monkey |
| 12:40.31 | A1win | cosmic bananas |
| 12:40.32 | DeadZergling | why are monkeys now involved? |
| 12:40.39 | A1win | ;p |
| 12:40.42 | A1win | no reason |
| 12:40.55 | A1win | < Zolden> kingTD what "TD" means in your nickname? total destruction? tower defence? triple doubling? trading diamonds? tragic disgrace? touch down? toilet defecation? monkey jump? |
| 12:41.20 | A1win | I lied, that's the reason |
| 12:41.28 | Zolden | monkeys are involved because human is basically a monkey that made rockets and got to the cosmos, we just being cynically realistic |
| 12:42.03 | A1win | cynically realistic monkies in space |
| 12:42.08 | Zolden | so, all the space race is nothing but monkey jump from jungle to sapce |
| 12:46.29 | Zolden | oh please, editor! sometimes doubleclicks on an entry close the "pick field value" window, sometimes doesn't. Sometimes enter does it, bot sometimes doesn't! For how long will we tolerate usch incostistency? I can't adapt my reflexes to it, can't map faster |
| 12:46.49 | A1win | ;x |
| 12:46.58 | A1win | sometimes alt+o closes it because it's hotkey for OK |
| 12:47.23 | Zolden | i need a hotkey for "fuck you, editor!" |
| 12:47.44 | Kueken | try alt + f4 |
| 12:47.55 | A1win | alt + f4 only closes one window |
| 12:48.31 | Zolden | it's like saying "fuck you" to only person's leg |
| 12:48.38 | Kueken | also, the name doesn't need to make sense |
| 12:48.55 | Kueken | all it needs to be is sound mildly related and be catchy and memorable |
| 12:49.00 | Kueken | see porn movie titles |
| 12:49.02 | A1win | Kueken, yeah but it shouldn't be misleading either |
| 12:49.20 | Zolden | in my map one resource is named "subdolak" |
| 12:49.38 | Kueken | sounds like a russian energy drink |
| 12:50.05 | Zolden | russian energy drink sounds like vodka |
| 12:50.24 | Kueken | so vodka red bull is just red bull? :D |
| 12:50.33 | A1win | vodka sounds like subdolak |
| 12:51.06 | Zolden | vodka is red bull, because ppl start bullying each other like if they see red |
| 12:52.45 | DeadZergling | porn movie titles? |
| 12:52.52 | DeadZergling | so you think it should be Ass Blasters 5? |
| 12:53.03 | A1win | mass blasters |
| 12:55.07 | Zolden | cristmass blasters |
| 12:55.44 | DeadZergling | Mass Blasters could work |
| 12:56.04 | A1win | (if there were destructible planets) |
| 12:56.16 | DeadZergling | and whose fault is it there aren't? |
| 12:56.52 | A1win | you haven't made a convincing enough case of it, it's all yours D: |
| 12:57.09 | DeadZergling | Oh I made a plenty strong case |
| 12:57.13 | DeadZergling | you just don't want to do it |
| 12:57.46 | DeadZergling | Mass Blasters, welcome to a world where rock and dirt are the ULTIMATE defense! |
| 12:59.44 | Zolden | evolution constructed jumping monkeys out of rocks and dirt |
| 13:07.13 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a82/SC2%202013-11-16%2015-05-50-66.jpg |
| 13:07.39 | A1win | no more wall-shotting with rockets near edge ;p |
| 13:07.47 | G0A | omg, there are now "first person views" in sc2 tournament casting, now apms really blow me... |
| 13:09.00 | A1win | should swap the icons I think... |
| 13:09.08 | Zolden | yea, although apm numbers are impressive, but when you wee what is really going on on their screens, you understand how ridiculous the of beating a korean |
| 13:09.28 | Zolden | *the idea of |
| 13:10.17 | G0A | yeah |
| 13:10.44 | G0A | I think they have double vision, one for the minimap and one for the actual game. |
| 13:11.20 | A1win | just need to learn a pattern of looking at different areas of the screen |
| 13:11.30 | A1win | and switching cameras etc |
| 13:12.37 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a82/SC2%202013-11-16%2015-11-54-31.jpg |
| 13:14.18 | Zolden | A1win not like i was suffering much from edge explosions, but it's a correct change, because space has reachable no edges, just hope you will make it = explosion radus, not like 5xtimes bigger as it is seen on the screen |
| 13:14.47 | A1win | hmmh? |
| 13:16.09 | A1win | will make what = explosion radius? |
| 13:16.22 | A1win | the outer ring? |
| 13:16.28 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a82/SC2%202013-11-16%2015-15-12-78.jpg |
| 13:16.34 | A1win | now the icons are nice ;p |
| 13:16.44 | DeadZergling | making stuff more user friendly is boring |
| 13:19.34 | Zolden | A1win the radius difference between inner and outer circles = explosion diameter |
| 13:19.46 | A1win | why so small? |
| 13:20.09 | Zolden | because it will protect ships from the explosions, which was the idea of making another circle |
| 13:21.11 | DeadZergling | icons look the same... |
| 13:21.32 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a82/SC2%202013-11-16%2015-20-43-45.jpg |
| 13:21.36 | A1win | the outer icon is darker |
| 13:22.11 | DeadZergling | nice 3 light blue icons |
| 13:22.17 | DeadZergling | no way I'll get confused now |
| 13:22.31 | A1win | I meant the ring icons :P |
| 13:22.35 | A1win | in space |
| 13:22.37 | A1win | not weapon icons |
| 13:22.39 | A1win | those are placeholders |
| 13:23.01 | A1win | not going to spend a lot of time on UI for features that might still change |
| 13:23.16 | DeadZergling | yea anywho, off to bed for me |
| 13:23.29 | DeadZergling | gonna attempt to see if I can sneak into that NA thing in 7 hours |
| 13:23.50 | DeadZergling | may have enough time for it, just have to convince them to mess around on my map for 20 mins |
| 13:25.32 | Zolden | kingTD so, what's your impression of my map? |
| 13:25.59 | kingTD | quite cool, some improvements really must be done |
| 13:26.07 | Zolden | in progress |
| 13:26.22 | kingTD | imo the expanding all over the map is unnecessary |
| 13:26.31 | kingTD | it could be limited to spawn location |
| 13:26.46 | kingTD | and those unlocables resource expansions |
| 13:27.42 | Zolden | I have plans to add turrets vs mines and const yards, and also to make players be able to attack mines with const yard laser... but we'lll seee |
| 13:28.03 | Zolden | need to test alot ot feel they dynamics and attractors of optimal play |
| 13:36.09 | kingTD | plus not really clear what resource node gives what.. |
| 13:36.25 | kingTD | gold minerals and farm is clear otehrs not a clue |
| 13:43.46 | A1win | hah, no wonder my ship crashes were so weird, it checked the velocity after it had already bounced them from each other |
| 13:44.55 | G0A | I like the expanding thing |
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| 13:50.26 | duckies | oh lol, it displays your heartstone active friend list on launcher g0a :D |
| 13:53.06 | G0A | ehh |
| 13:53.14 | G0A | ahh you too:D |
| 13:53.53 | G0A | fixed the thing in my hero map, so I reward myself with heartstone |
| 13:57.05 | Zolden | G0A i liked the rpg component of your map, but after a couple of arena rounds i lost the answer to "why I play?" |
| 13:59.48 | A1win | hehe explosions throwing drones around now that they have enough health to survive the blast |
| 14:01.03 | G0A | Zolden now arenas more frequent and the other team's spawn area is closer |
| 14:06.25 | Zolden | G0A i don't know all abils, but the ones i say are kinda too simple to make exciting fights: i had blast, which is simply a snipe, adn those guys had vortex, which is nothing but stun+invulnerable, so fights are kinda not as exciting as they could be, there should be ways to make them more complex and less "higher level -> win" |
| 14:09.11 | duckies | in other words, G0A, go conjure up some non-sc2 abils :D |
| 14:10.14 | G0A | yeah, thats the plan, but first I wanted to add sc2 abils |
| 14:10.42 | G0A | also I want to make the abils more customizable |
| 14:16.27 | duckies | the thing is, sc2 abils are all boring 100 guaranged hit things |
| 14:16.41 | A1win | Zolden, haven't had any luck finding a concept artist ;p but maybe it's not that bad to make a planet that looks good? :P |
| 14:16.48 | A1win | and a ship that fits in |
| 14:16.53 | duckies | everyone are tired of them ;/ |
| 14:18.21 | A1win | Zolden, now I don't even need team colored planets anymore so the color isn't a limiting factor |
| 14:18.57 | Zolden | A1win you want me to create a new planet model? |
| 14:19.07 | A1win | well texturing at least |
| 14:19.47 | A1win | though a few more polygons wouldn't hurt, can still see the corners easily around the edge ;p |
| 14:20.16 | A1win | currently the ships, the projectiles, and the planets just don't feel like they fit together |
| 14:20.22 | Zolden | ok, but i don't know when, these dasy i'm too consumed by preparing map for beta release |
| 14:20.25 | A1win | and the planets aren't that nice anyway |
| 14:20.29 | A1win | mm |
| 14:32.41 | G0A | A1win you know there is pack on sc2mapster with 71 planet textures |
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| 14:56.22 | A1win | they're too realistic |
| 14:57.25 | A1win | and it's not just the diffuse texture, needs good specular mapping too |
| 14:59.34 | Zolden | i'd made them also with a good normal map so continents would look popped out |
| 14:59.46 | A1win | mm |
| 15:00.43 | A1win | http://image.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/100915/142088212/stock-vector-vector-world-globe-illustration-with-d-triangular-map-of-the-earth-and-smooth-shadows-the-142088212.jpg |
| 15:00.47 | A1win | something like that could be cool |
| 15:01.05 | A1win | not that sharp though |
| 15:18.37 | A1win | like stylistic continents |
| 15:18.47 | A1win | not realistically detailed like they are now |
| 15:28.22 | A1win | oh no, someone has given thumbs down on my latest video :'[ |
| 15:30.07 | Zolden | maybe it's a person from another universe where gravity repulses things instead of attracting |
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| 15:35.38 | G0A | it was thumbs down bot from a universe which wants to cause depression in other universes. Once the universe depressed enough, it conquers it. |
| 15:37.23 | Bommes | do they also have a different kind of humour in that other universe? |
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| 16:04.19 | Zolden | omg, i know what should we do! we must depose socialists in north korea, force them to adopt capitalism and start playing starcraft! and north korean sc2 players wil finally cease the reign of the arrogant souoth koreans on sc2 scene! |
| 16:04.54 | Zolden | yea! they will rape their soft asses with tempered north dicks!!! |
| 16:06.17 | Zolden | hard existance of north korea, asperity and hunger have hardened their spirit |
| 16:06.18 | Dustin | we want less korean sc players, not more! |
| 16:06.31 | Zolden | won't they collapse? |
| 16:06.38 | Zolden | like electron and positron? |
| 16:09.37 | Dustin | Ohh I see what you're saying |
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| 16:10.10 | Dustin | Maybe addition of the opposite korean energy will nullify the korean stronghold on SC2 play and open it up to a whole new world of possibilities and races! |
| 16:10.59 | Dustin | Yin and Yang will bring peace to the SC2 community as fortold by the prophet Zolden. |
| 16:11.49 | monkalizer | how does the new Extension Mods work and when will they be implemented |
| 16:13.01 | Zolden | monkey laser! |
| 16:14.03 | monkalizer | oh not you again ;) |
| 16:14.04 | kingTD | in next 5 weeks |
| 16:14.38 | monkalizer | I see, will they include triggers? |
| 16:16.05 | G0A | Zolden I dont see why does North Korea needs regime change to make an army of pro gamers. |
| 16:18.25 | Zolden | at least to have money to buy sc2 coopy |
| 16:18.48 | Zolden | now it's like full 1 year income of a family, they can't afford it |
| 16:19.26 | G0A | The state could fund the whole thing in the name of their glorious leader. At least failing would mean death:) |
| 16:20.20 | Bommes | is HSC using Gameheart? |
| 16:21.42 | Zolden | G0A death isn't a punishment for them, they have death procedure every morning and like it, but if their leader stop loving them, it will be an uncomparable tragedy |
| 16:38.15 | Zolden | guys, I want to create a text color tag from decimal rgb numbers, how to do it? |
| 16:39.10 | Zolden | should i manually turn them to hex? |
| 16:39.39 | A1win | can't you just use "text with color" function? |
| 16:40.25 | Ahli | Bommes: not that I am aware of. I think they just use a Blizzard UI and default maps. |
| 16:40.41 | Zolden | oh, nvm, there's Color() function |
| 16:41.24 | Zolden | A1win I wanted tag to not close and spread further, also that thing only let to choose player colors by some reason |
| 16:41.42 | A1win | Zolden, you were looking at preset tab |
| 16:42.04 | Zolden | i checked value tab, and there were only player colors too |
| 16:42.21 | A1win | O.o |
| 16:42.50 | Zolden | oh, right |
| 16:42.57 | Zolden | was wrong bracket |
| 16:43.01 | A1win | yeah :x |
| 16:43.09 | A1win | it has "convert player color to color" function set for it by default |
| 16:44.38 | Zolden | and actually this would work |
| 17:09.30 | Zolden | nice |
| 17:09.40 | Zolden | the bigger income, the brighter its number |
| 17:10.05 | Zolden | kingTD wanna test my map in 10 minutes? |
| 17:10.11 | kingTD | k |
| 17:10.48 | Zolden | duckies G0A Kueken Dustin maybe you also want to test my map in 10 minutes? |
| 17:11.02 | duckies | sure |
| 17:11.15 | Zolden | ok, gather yourselves on eu |
| 17:18.57 | Dustin | im on, stepping out for a smoke before we start |
| 17:20.19 | G0A | Zolden |
| 17:20.24 | Zolden | ok, publishing |
| 17:20.27 | G0A | did you guys started? |
| 17:20.30 | G0A | okey.D |
| 17:22.10 | G0A | duckies it seems in Heartstone arena you get the cards level and opponent level by the level of your hero you choosen in the arena from the 3. So it worth choosing your low level heroes.... |
| 17:23.02 | duckies | ooh |
| 17:23.12 | G0A | but I am not sure in it |
| 17:23.14 | duckies | what do you base that assumption on? |
| 17:23.23 | duckies | btw, we didn't start yet |
| 17:23.28 | duckies | so feel free to join us |
| 17:23.40 | duckies | zolden isn't even there yet |
| 17:23.44 | G0A | coming |
| 17:23.49 | Zolden | i invited you duckies |
| 17:23.54 | Zolden | kingTD come |
| 17:24.04 | kingTD | im there |
| 17:24.23 | Zolden | duckies inv kingTD |
| 17:24.24 | G0A | I choosen priest the first time in arena and I had low level cards (my priest was level 0 that time) now I choosen again priest and I got much better cards. |
| 17:24.29 | Zolden | i forgot to add him to my new acc |
| 17:24.43 | duckies | I think it's random G0A :D |
| 17:25.04 | G0A | need expert opinion:D |
| 17:25.18 | Zolden | we need 1 more for 3v3 |
| 17:25.20 | Zolden | anyone? |
| 17:25.24 | Zolden | A1win you maybe? |
| 17:25.45 | Zolden | Ahli or you? |
| 17:27.22 | Ahli | k |
| 17:30.00 | Ahli | and exactly now I have to eat :X... sry, back in a few minutes |
| 17:54.40 | Ahli | nice heart, g0a |
| 17:55.21 | G0A | :( |
| 17:55.26 | G0A | Robot looked better |
| 17:55.49 | duckies | ooh, so new launcher shows your active friend list for all games, not just hs |
| 17:56.10 | duckies | wait, but it shows just goa |
| 17:56.14 | duckies | not the otheres |
| 17:56.16 | duckies | hmm |
| 17:56.21 | kingTD | lazy fucker going back to dota |
| 17:56.52 | kingTD | it just shows the "real" frendoes |
| 17:56.54 | duckies | oh yeah, others in list are my testers of past |
| 17:56.57 | G0A | I am the only one cool enough |
| 17:56.58 | kingTD | that you shared the mail shit |
| 17:57.03 | duckies | they probably don't have me in f l |
| 17:58.10 | G0A | brb |
| 18:28.06 | A1win | how does mothership vortex control unit scale when they are sucked in? |
| 18:35.56 | Zolden | it's about scale? Not about anything else? |
| 18:36.02 | A1win | dunno |
| 18:37.39 | Zolden | it has "visibiliyt dummy" effect, but it's damage |
| 18:38.13 | Zolden | oh, it's only for revealing |
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| 18:42.52 | Zolden | feels like it has something to do with that switch effect |
| 18:43.10 | A1win | mm dunno |
| 18:43.27 | A1win | might not be able to use that anyway since I need this scaling to be based on distance |
| 18:44.28 | Zolden | why do you need to sacale? |
| 18:44.36 | A1win | trying to make black hole ;p |
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| 18:46.59 | Zolden | you can scale with triggers |
| 18:47.08 | A1win | yeah that's what I'm doing |
| 18:58.33 | A1win | how can I make an actor that sets any unit's scale when a specific behavior is removed from the unit? |
| 19:00.55 | Zolden | behavior.x.on -> set scale ... label = a, behavior.x.off -> set scale 1, 1, 1 label = a |
| 19:01.00 | ArcanePariah | A1win: You will want to create a generic actor that creates itself when the behavior is applied. Then on Actor Destruction, send a set Scale message to the host |
| 19:01.04 | Zolden | i think this will return scale to normal |
| 19:01.13 | A1win | how do I send it to the host? |
| 19:01.28 | ArcanePariah | Set Scale and in the target field, put ::Host |
| 19:01.54 | Zolden | or use alias name |
| 19:02.21 | Zolden | you can define alias names for actors in the alias field |
| 19:02.39 | ArcanePariah | True, but he would need to place the alias on all possible units |
| 19:02.56 | ArcanePariah | WIth generic actor and targeting host, works for any number of units regardless |
| 19:02.59 | Zolden | yea, if ::host works, it's fine |
| 19:03.33 | A1win | what type of actor should it be |
| 19:03.43 | ArcanePariah | Literally the generic Actor |
| 19:03.48 | ArcanePariah | The most basic one |
| 19:04.17 | A1win | that's not an actor type though |
| 19:04.25 | A1win | Simple actor parented from CActor? |
| 19:04.29 | ArcanePariah | Yeah |
| 19:04.31 | ArcanePariah | Simple |
| 19:04.36 | A1win | this doesn't seem to work |
| 19:04.38 | Zolden | sometimes i use model actor for it (the one i attach something to actors with) |
| 19:05.07 | Zolden | A1win jsut to test try allias name or even actor's id |
| 19:05.44 | A1win | testing with tint color |
| 19:07.54 | A1win | no luck |
| 19:07.57 | A1win | nothing happens D; |
| 19:08.48 | A1win | Behavior.whatever.Create -> Create, Behavior.whatever.Destroy -> Destroy, ActorDestruction -> SetTintColor .... (target: ::Host) |
| 19:09.17 | Zolden | use .on and .off for behavior |
| 19:09.29 | A1win | I did, no change |
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| 19:09.59 | Zolden | also, try behavior.x.on -> set tint color (target ...) |
| 19:10.09 | Zolden | and as target use actor's id |
| 19:10.12 | Zolden | to be sure |
| 19:10.30 | Zolden | not sure if it works |
| 19:10.56 | Zolden | if it won't, use create as you did, and actor createion -> set tint color (target: id) |
| 19:11.33 | A1win | works if I use actor's id in target |
| 19:12.17 | A1win | ::Host does nothing |
| 19:13.03 | ArcanePariah | Yeah, I thought when a behavior is applied, and the actor was created, the host would be the unit, but apparently it is not. So need ot figure out how to set the host reference |
| 19:14.15 | Zolden | A1win now try alias name (the one you put into alias field of the actor) |
| 19:15.55 | duckies | a1win, check out Phase Shift Opacity, it shows how to make a an actor that is created when behavior is created and do stuff on unit that has the behavior |
| 19:16.27 | duckies | that is if all you need is a tint/scale things |
| 19:16.35 | A1win | that has _Unit as target |
| 19:16.41 | A1win | mm |
| 19:16.50 | ArcanePariah | Yeah |
| 19:17.02 | ArcanePariah | That will work better, since you are just sending this to units right? |
| 19:17.11 | A1win | yeah |
| 19:17.22 | A1win | only units can have behaviors anyway ;p |
| 19:17.33 | ArcanePariah | Then yeah, just set target to _Unit |
| 19:17.43 | A1win | yeah that works |
| 19:22.00 | JademusSreg | Zorkle. |
| 19:22.06 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 19:22.18 | A1win | mmh for some reason it doesn't scale my projectiles |
| 19:22.26 | JademusSreg | Any "galaxy platform" news, or 2.1 info? |
| 19:22.30 | A1win | the blackhole, that is, not this actor |
| 19:22.45 | ArcanePariah | Projectiles tend to have the Missile Alias, not Unit |
| 19:23.00 | A1win | these are just regular units |
| 19:23.07 | A1win | and I'm sending the scale message with triggers anyway |
| 19:24.29 | ArcanePariah | Hmm... and I retract my last statement, Missile Actors by default have both a Missile and Unit Alias |
| 19:25.00 | A1win | I might just be imagining it because they move so fast |
| 19:25.25 | ArcanePariah | Well, you could always take one and set its scale to something large just to make the comparison easier |
| 19:25.31 | A1win | yeah they do scale |
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| 19:27.38 | ArcanePariah | JademusSreg: None so far, I'm assuming 2.1 PTR will hit next Tuesday during the normal maintenance cycle |
| 19:27.51 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:28.18 | A1win | yay, the black hole seems to work now o: |
| 19:28.44 | A1win | gravity slingshots are back! |
| 19:30.27 | ArcanePariah | I'm curious to see what editor improvements come, since each patch tends to bring a few official ones and a fair number of undocumented ones |
| 19:30.30 | Zolden | what's PTR? |
| 19:30.36 | ArcanePariah | Public Test Realm |
| 19:30.41 | Zolden | oh, right |
| 19:30.45 | ArcanePariah | or Public Test Region |
| 19:31.23 | Zolden | or public test religion, like some elders implemented and it worked |
| 19:31.41 | Stewox | so PTR out yet ? |
| 19:31.46 | Stewox | or patch |
| 19:32.28 | Stewox | ah nvm i don't have hots anyways |
| 19:37.59 | kingTD | idk think that it will require hots |
| 19:40.04 | duckies | guys, any way to make a "false buff" that makes unit weapon display additional damage (+X green value) but in truth do nothing? |
| 19:41.48 | kingTD | using different effect damage effect for display? |
| 19:42.11 | kingTD | like there would be real damage effect |
| 19:42.18 | kingTD | and the other one for display |
| 19:42.28 | JademusSreg | For what purpose? |
| 19:43.07 | JademusSreg | I mean, it's doable with a dummy weapon, easy enough. |
| 19:44.50 | duckies | to have different elemental damage, main weapon is composed of ~5-6 different effects (diff elements), so when unit equips some sort of fire orb, game would increase its fire damage by X and display "+X" in weapon panel |
| 19:45.27 | duckies | I mean, the only way to add that green text that I know is through behavior->combat -> add damage |
| 19:45.45 | duckies | but that would add damage to all weapons, wouldn't it? |
| 19:47.07 | JademusSreg | Can apply bonuses by type (Melee, Ranged, Spell, Splash) or by attribute, and some other stuff, but not sure which display in the interface. |
| 19:47.12 | G0A | duckies I am at 3 win 2 loss in arena:D |
| 19:47.18 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure the first two display. |
| 19:47.57 | A1win | are there any simple tga to dds converters or do I need a plugin for photoshop or something |
| 19:48.25 | JademusSreg | Nvidia offers free photoshop plugin for dds shit. |
| 19:48.38 | A1win | just don't have photoshop atm |
| 19:48.38 | ArcanePariah | All 4 damage types display, which one is dispalyted is determined by the kind of damage of the weapon |
| 19:49.05 | duckies | is there a way to collapse attribute bonus display |
| 19:49.19 | duckies | so that it doesn't show "+4 vs armored"? |
| 19:49.28 | duckies | I'll go check if even it does so :D |
| 19:50.51 | duckies | hm, yea, if I add attribute bonus it displays "vs ATTRIBUTE" in weapon panel |
| 19:52.53 | ArcanePariah | You can hide it by changing the default texts to be balnk |
| 19:52.58 | ArcanePariah | blank* |
| 19:53.26 | duckies | but wouldn't it still be on new line? |
| 19:53.42 | ArcanePariah | Probably, so yeah, it would still create a blank space and look awkward |
| 19:54.26 | duckies | eh, I guess I'll need to turn "splash" type of damage into a dummy one that is never used anywhere, and go with it |
| 19:54.49 | duckies | but it still works out, thanks guys! |
| 19:55.40 | ArcanePariah | NP, all hail teh duck |
| 19:55.42 | ArcanePariah | :P |
| 19:55.52 | ArcanePariah | When's NA Map Night start? In like an hour? |
| 19:56.41 | duckies | according to goa, yes |
| 19:57.10 | duckies | ah right, G0A, living on the edge, eh? :D tell me what you win when you finish! |
| 19:57.50 | G0A | I am going to win this one too:D |
| 19:58.06 | G0A | my deck is imba |
| 19:58.06 | duckies | which class? |
| 19:58.38 | G0A | priest |
| 19:58.44 | duckies | >.> |
| 19:59.05 | G0A | I have 4 of the card which you thought is man when it was woman:D |
| 20:00.15 | duckies | hah, last game I fought a priest, had 2 of those clerics right from the start, kept them both alive for the whole game, made the duel for other guy quite misrable |
| 20:01.05 | A1win | so difficult to make a black hole icon <.< |
| 20:01.44 | A1win | ...why don't I just use the vortex icon |
| 20:03.08 | G0A | btw 11th card is destroyed, so dont make 10 card :D |
| 20:04.15 | duckies | aha :D |
| 20:04.36 | G0A | 4 wins 2 losses:D |
| 20:04.46 | G0A | I rock |
| 20:05.19 | duckies | sheesh, you make me want to try arena too, turns out I was wrong and one of available classes is a priest :D |
| 20:05.33 | G0A | :D |
| 20:06.18 | duckies | but I won't, need to make a system for those damn multielemental weapons :< |
| 20:06.24 | duckies | maybe after that |
| 20:06.28 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a82/SC2%202013-11-16%2022-05-15-63.jpg |
| 20:07.00 | Dustin | fuck ya |
| 20:07.01 | Dustin | whats it do |
| 20:07.09 | A1win | it gives you cookies |
| 20:07.23 | A1win | just kills you atm |
| 20:07.33 | Dustin | nice ;p; |
| 20:07.56 | Dustin | what about making it a wormhole that teleports to another wormhole :D |
| 20:07.58 | A1win | and bends projectile trajectories a lot :x |
| 20:08.11 | Dustin | does it kill projectiles or just swirl them around |
| 20:08.21 | A1win | kills anything that goes too close to center |
| 20:08.28 | A1win | otherwise they'd spin way too fast :P |
| 20:08.32 | A1win | if they flied through the center |
| 20:09.08 | Dustin | hehe gotcha |
| 20:19.24 | G0A | duckies dammit lost against another priest |
| 20:23.05 | A1win | damn this is cool o: |
| 20:24.52 | duckies | so, end result, 4-3? |
| 20:24.56 | A1win | mmh what's with these "Cannot clear prop type Opacity. The prop is missing. |
| 20:24.57 | duckies | what's the loot |
| 20:25.01 | duckies | G0A ^ |
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| 20:29.56 | A1win | how do I stop this from giving those errors D: |
| 20:30.09 | A1win | it only seems to happen if the unit dies while it has the behavior |
| 20:32.10 | G0A | duckies 90 dust and 1 pack |
| 20:32.32 | duckies | you need to win at least 3 games for a pack, right? |
| 20:33.29 | G0A | I got pack after 2 wins |
| 20:33.31 | duckies | oh |
| 20:33.32 | duckies | OH |
| 20:33.41 | duckies | card pack is a guaranteed reward |
| 20:34.08 | duckies | silly me for thinking it's not, then why am I holding back? time to go waste myself on the arena! |
| 20:34.34 | G0A | :) |
| 20:34.39 | duckies | after I'm done with with this one mapping thing! |
| 20:34.47 | duckies | btw, what did you change in arena? |
| 20:35.25 | G0A | change? |
| 20:37.19 | duckies | *in your arena map |
| 20:37.52 | duckies | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:38.03 | duckies | to make a town portal spell and add death penalty |
| 20:38.06 | duckies | *go make |
| 20:38.35 | duckies | ah.. but you'd also need to do something to make walking back all the way less painful |
| 20:38.59 | duckies | makbe make a free recall spell with a cooldown? |
| 20:39.42 | duckies | though, knowing you you'd forget to disable if for duel.. I can already see people warping out of it and bugging the game, might be not such a great idea ._. |
| 20:39.58 | G0A | :D |
| 20:41.46 | duckies | aw hell, but making death penalty is kinda hard, isn't it, something that doesn't snowball on player too much, everyone hate losing resources, but it must prevent careless dying. |
| 20:41.48 | duckies | :o |
| 20:42.09 | duckies | make it so that when you die, enemy team gets +5 minerals, for loz :D |
| 20:42.16 | duckies | *lolz |
| 20:42.53 | duckies | sh*t, talking too much, need to map |
| 20:43.57 | Zolden | so, is there na map night going on? |
| 20:45.45 | G0A | soon |
| 20:47.16 | A1win | how does Switch validator work? |
| 20:49.07 | Zolden | you mean switch effect? |
| 20:49.14 | A1win | ...yeah |
| 20:49.38 | A1win | nvm I think I got it |
| 20:49.43 | A1win | just had validators set the wrong way round |
| 20:50.31 | A1win | yeh seems to work |
| 20:50.50 | A1win | disabled collisions from units that are in vortex and made them not explode if they die to timed life ending |
| 20:50.59 | A1win | (just get removed) |
| 20:53.04 | A1win | how do I disable actor message errors when it tries to clear a tint color / scale that is not set? |
| 20:53.17 | A1win | or how do I disable it from trying to do that |
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| 21:13.23 | kingTD | ze map night on NA startingingingingingin |
| 21:13.32 | kingTD | waiting for YOU the GUYS! |
| 21:15.40 | duckies | I just want to play zoldens TD, with hopefully fixed scan |
| 21:15.59 | kingTD | and goas RPG shit |
| 21:16.17 | duckies | I don't think he has it on NA, said he ran out of map slots |
| 21:16.33 | kingTD | hmmm |
| 21:16.49 | kingTD | well then will have to wait for upcoming friday :s |
| 21:17.04 | kingTD | for that most enjoyable place to be in... |
| 21:23.15 | kingTD | NA MAP NIGHT NIGHT NIGGA |
| 21:31.16 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1DA2KGf4eQ |
| 21:34.16 | A1win | black hole demo |
| 21:35.34 | Dustin | love it |
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| 21:53.22 | Fate_ | so is there still no PTR? |
| 21:56.00 | DeadZergling | anyone here know what channel to go to for the NA map night, is sc2mapster, right? |
| 21:56.07 | DeadZergling | (on bnet I mean) |
| 21:56.26 | Brainshack | there are groups i think |
| 21:56.52 | Brainshack | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/57126-map-night-revived-eu-na/ |
| 21:57.06 | Brainshack | starcraft://group/1/129749 |
| 22:01.19 | DeadZergling | guessing have to wait sometimes, since they probably all in a game right now |
| 22:01.28 | DeadZergling | oh well, my fault for sleeping in |
| 22:01.52 | Fate_ | can someone answe my question pls? |
| 22:04.27 | Brainshack | i dont get why they would even make a ptr for such an underwhelming patch |
| 22:05.05 | Fate_ | becous i want to test the new mapping stufff |
| 22:05.30 | Zolden | Fate_ correct |
| 22:07.53 | kingTD | zolden the updater? |
| 22:09.44 | Zolden | kingTD correct |
| 22:10.01 | kingTD | well we going then create our rpg in game |
| 22:10.37 | Zolden | strange, it takes like 5 sec to up on eu and like 5 min to upload on na |
| 22:11.03 | Zolden | your rpg? |
| 22:11.07 | kingTD | no |
| 22:11.14 | Zolden | ok, uploaded, coming |
| 22:11.22 | kingTD | someone created the rpg creator in sc2 arcade map |
| 22:13.00 | Fate_ | XD Editorception |
| 22:13.07 | kingTD | :P |
| 22:13.09 | Fate_ | or Mapception |
| 22:13.19 | G0A | :D |
| 22:13.25 | kingTD | 123 |
| 22:34.04 | Tomura | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70741181/Recordings/test.mp3 |
| 22:34.14 | Tomura | was playing around with the vst's I have |
| 22:40.14 | Fate_ | what are vstĀ“s? |
| 22:40.45 | A1win | got somewhat random maps now o: |
| 22:41.26 | Tomura | virtual studio technology. It's a type of plugin or rather a software protocol for audio plugins |
| 22:41.48 | A1win | though it only randomizes on map load, need to do a bit more work to make it reset every round |
| 22:42.03 | Tomura | VSTi would have been more correct. These are virtual instruments using the vst protocol |
| 22:53.43 | Zolden | Tomura nice little movie soundtrack |
| 22:53.56 | Zolden | like when they walk throug mountain snows |
| 22:54.10 | Zolden | and camera flying around on a plane |
| 22:54.46 | Zolden | have more? |
| 22:55.49 | Tomura | one or two, but nothing that I finished |
| 22:56.01 | Tomura | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70741181/Recordings/EvolveMutations2Test.mp3 |
| 22:56.21 | Tomura | this one is a test how my guitar would fit into something soundtrack like |
| 22:56.31 | Tomura | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70741181/Recordings/ModernTrailerTest_01_1.mp3 |
| 22:56.45 | Tomura | and this is another study for something more modern |
| 22:57.51 | Tomura | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/70741181/Recordings/ModernTrailer_Test_v4.mp3 and another variation with a melody that's kind of influenced by metroid prime |
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| 22:59.17 | Zolden | guitar is a bit overreverberated |
| 23:01.05 | Bommes | sounds awesome :) what is it for? |
| 23:01.15 | Tomura | just practicing |
| 23:01.19 | Tomura | but thx |
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| 23:13.36 | DeadZergling | Pick a better name yet a1win? |
| 23:14.32 | A1win | nope :[ |
| 23:14.56 | A1win | but I made a black hole |
| 23:15.30 | DeadZergling | scientifically accurate one, or sci fi sucks you in one? |
| 23:16.01 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1DA2KGf4eQ |
| 23:17.11 | DeadZergling | so sci fi |
| 23:18.02 | Kueken | what would it do otherwise? |
| 23:19.26 | A1win | whee now my level generation works between rounds |
| 23:19.32 | DeadZergling | well from what I recall from astronomy, black hole = collapsed star. Ridiculous mass and such, but it doesn't actually pull you in. Stuff that goes into it wouldn't go swirling around, they'd just get absorbed so compactly it would be as if they ceased to exist |
| 23:19.35 | A1win | just freezes for a bit while it calculates gravity D: |
| 23:20.40 | A1win | what, black holes have no gravity? |
| 23:21.09 | DeadZergling | they have it sure, but they aren't the monsters that suck up all life as some movies make them out to be |
| 23:21.19 | Bommes | Tomura: Should you ever want to make something for practice that is actually used in a map/project, I would totally use a soundtrack of that quality, sounds really great |
| 23:21.21 | DeadZergling | they are just super condensed collapsed stars |
| 23:21.44 | A1win | so my black holes actually are weaker than real black holes ;p |
| 23:21.45 | DeadZergling | only occur from larger stars collapsing |
| 23:21.50 | A1win | these have less gravity than those big planets |
| 23:22.05 | DeadZergling | if you go into a black hole, you die of course |
| 23:22.14 | DeadZergling | but it won't pull you there |
| 23:22.20 | A1win | of course it will, it has gravity |
| 23:22.36 | DeadZergling | but is so much more exciting for movies/games if they have a ridiculous pull |
| 23:22.53 | A1win | it just won't pull stuff from *very far away* |
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| 23:23.13 | A1win | the only thing this black hole uses to pull you is gravity |
| 23:23.18 | Bommes | DeadZergling: What do you mean, "it won't pull you there"? |
| 23:23.22 | A1win | I didn't add any extra forces |
| 23:23.35 | Bommes | technically that would be the reason why you would die if you ever get into a black hole |
| 23:23.51 | Bommes | because the close part of your body gets pulled more than the more far away part of your body |
| 23:23.54 | Bommes | so you get ripped apart |
| 23:24.01 | DeadZergling | Certain range sure, but this nonsense where everything is getting sucked into it |
| 23:24.13 | DeadZergling | isn't correct |
| 23:24.38 | A1win | I still don't get what you're saying D: |
| 23:24.47 | A1win | why wouldn't everything get sucked into it? |
| 23:30.19 | kingTD | Zolden I suggest making a grid of resources at the start available and adding those unloackable rocks too. Not needing to expand all over the map. |
| 23:33.31 | Bommes | getting sucked into a blackhole would be pretty interesting though in terms of how you experience the time passing while getting sucked into it? |
| 23:34.23 | Bommes | since the time would slow down the closer you get |
| 23:35.03 | Tomura | I don't think that being ripped apart while time slows down would be a great experience |
| 23:36.26 | Bommes | yeah maybe |
| 23:36.47 | A1win | yay, random map for every round now |
| 23:38.37 | Tomura | but the time slowing down part definitely would be interesting |
| 23:38.44 | DeadZergling | all I'm trying to say is, the mystical effects of blackholes aren't what people try to make them out to be |
| 23:38.55 | DeadZergling | the pull of a black hole won't be any more than a star of the same mass |
| 23:39.05 | A1win | yeah |
| 23:39.25 | A1win | and this black hole has less mass than these big planets |
| 23:39.38 | DeadZergling | well that is really incorrect |
| 23:39.49 | A1win | it'd even have a stronger pull if it had more ;p |
| 23:39.51 | DeadZergling | probably has far more mass if you were trying to scientific about it |
| 23:40.06 | A1win | of course |
| 23:40.19 | A1win | but you were suggesting it has too much pull instead of too little D: |
| 23:41.20 | A1win | I guess the radius of the event horizon isn't this small though |
| 23:41.24 | Bommes | you should just give up on the idea as a whole, you will never get the scientifically accurate gravity per pixel ratio, might as well stop it now while you haven't put work into it |
| 23:41.37 | A1win | ;I |
| 23:49.52 | A1win | hehe, forgot to reset gravity grid between rounds... it was just adding the gravity of the new planets to the old |
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