| 00:01.44 | A1win | Zolden, you there? |
| 00:02.26 | Zolden | A1win yea |
| 00:02.30 | Zolden | coming |
| 00:20.06 | Ahli | is there a cheat command to gain control of a player? |
| 00:20.16 | Ahli | like makeunit creates units |
| 00:21.33 | Zolden | A1win i'd say drones are a tiny bit weaker than others |
| 00:21.54 | A1win | yea |
| 00:21.55 | Dustin | ya |
| 00:22.00 | A1win | should maybe increase launch velocity |
| 00:22.03 | Dustin | I had a blast though, its shaping up |
| 00:22.15 | A1win | they are difficult to get at your enemies now |
| 00:22.20 | Dustin | ya |
| 00:22.24 | Dustin | they fly by too fast |
| 00:22.28 | Dustin | And only hit like 1nce |
| 00:22.49 | A1win | I'll make them launch faster and slow down faster near enemies |
| 00:23.01 | Dustin | Thatll be a good change |
| 00:23.33 | A1win | though shouldn't spend too much time balancing yet ;D |
| 00:23.41 | Dustin | lol ya |
| 00:24.47 | A1win | weapon selection feels a bit weird still |
| 00:24.54 | A1win | maybe because there's no selection sound :P |
| 00:27.35 | Zolden | maybe |
| 00:30.06 | Dustin | there should be a graphic |
| 00:30.10 | Dustin | or animation |
| 00:30.15 | A1win | mm |
| 00:30.17 | Dustin | Cause I never know if It switched or not |
| 00:33.04 | A1win | in fps games it's easy since you can actually see the weapon :X |
| 00:33.29 | A1win | and the ship is too small to make it visually change based on weapon I guess |
| 00:33.52 | A1win | well there's a sound now, lot better already |
| 00:36.27 | A1win | can barely hear it when there are explosions though :P |
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| 00:50.12 | A1win | hmm... a teleport ability that requires a couple of seconds of charging |
| 00:50.28 | A1win | maybe during which you can't use thrusters or shoot |
| 00:50.41 | A1win | sleep time |
| 00:50.48 | Dustin | nightt |
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| 01:39.15 | ArcanePariah | Yoink |
| 02:04.37 | ArcanePariah | So question: How do wander behaviors function? Do they give move orders when the unit is idle? |
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| 03:21.28 | Zandose | hi |
| 03:21.59 | MoonEater916 | OK! |
| 03:22.06 | MoonEater916 | Zolden |
| 03:22.21 | MoonEater916 | Dead Zergling |
| 03:22.42 | MoonEater916 | DeadZergling |
| 03:22.52 | DeadZergling | ? |
| 03:27.42 | MoonEater916 | DeadZeargling how do i attach actor to actor |
| 03:27.49 | MoonEater916 | i see in actor events actor to model |
| 03:27.53 | MoonEater916 | but not actor to actor |
| 03:27.57 | MoonEater916 | i can do it via triggers |
| 03:28.02 | MoonEater916 | but not in events |
| 03:28.24 | DeadZergling | I typically do like model addition type |
| 03:28.41 | DeadZergling | have it create as part of the actor it is getting attached to, etc |
| 03:29.14 | MoonEater916 | well i need to do actor stuff to the model on creation :( |
| 03:29.17 | Repo | New map: Fuzer Party Funky Fysics Alpha - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/fuzerparty/ |
| 03:29.20 | DeadZergling | on creation, do stuff |
| 03:29.22 | DeadZergling | in events |
| 03:30.32 | MoonEater916 | but it wont work if im attaching models? |
| 03:30.35 | Zandose | question: are triggers some kind of actor? |
| 03:30.40 | MoonEater916 | no |
| 03:30.42 | MoonEater916 | never |
| 03:30.50 | MoonEater916 | Zandose take that idea and burn it |
| 03:30.50 | DeadZergling | sure it will work, you just put it in the events where you needi t |
| 03:30.55 | MoonEater916 | and never say it again |
| 03:31.36 | MoonEater916 | how can it work?!? if im going actor creation attach model, how can the model's actor just work? |
| 03:31.59 | DeadZergling | in the attachment events |
| 03:32.19 | DeadZergling | you put in something like actor base created, create |
| 03:32.27 | DeadZergling | and event, actor creation, set tint color or whatever |
| 03:34.00 | MoonEater916 | can u send me an xml? |
| 03:34.08 | DeadZergling | nope, not at home |
| 03:36.51 | Zandose | anyone know what "FieldDefault SC2 UI Settings - (Basic) UI: Camera Event Threshold Target 1" does? |
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| 05:57.32 | DeadZergling | hello any who are awake (and I guess rude words about your mother to any who aren't?) |
| 05:59.52 | DeadZergling | got a question before I go about doing this the hard way, is there a way to make a behavior have a chance to cause an effect to happen whenever say a melee attack or ranged attack is performed, or even spell |
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| 06:08.12 | MoonEater916 | DeadZergling, dammage response |
| 06:08.17 | MoonEater916 | its obscure |
| 06:09.27 | DeadZergling | yea, know how to use it easily when the unit is being hit |
| 06:09.39 | DeadZergling | it can do the same for when the unit hits others? |
| 06:23.08 | Thordmin | how can i make a building drain energy from another building when it is training units |
| 06:26.50 | ArcanePariah | DeadZergling: Set location to Attacker on damage response |
| 06:27.36 | ArcanePariah | And set Kind for Spell/Melee/Ranged/Splash |
| 06:28.25 | DeadZergling | that easy huh |
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| 06:30.46 | dvzon | Good evening |
| 06:30.59 | ArcanePariah | Evening |
| 06:32.53 | dvzon | I have a trigger that goes "any unit enters a distance of 1.0 from" etc, etc...My question is this: what in the unit properties or w/e property may be out there determines the 1.0? Is it the selection circle under a unit? is it the scale size of a unit? is it some radius property? or it's just insivible 1.0 range and that's the end of it? |
| 06:33.09 | ArcanePariah | It is from center to center |
| 06:33.46 | dvzon | so from center of unit to the center of the other unit |
| 06:33.51 | ArcanePariah | So 1 range may be not useful if the unit radii are rather large |
| 06:33.54 | ArcanePariah | afaik, yes |
| 06:35.37 | dvzon | I see...if I leave it at 1.0, can I edit something in the "entering unit" properties through data to change the center number? |
| 06:35.43 | dvzon | because the entering units have different scale models |
| 06:37.30 | dvzon | I think I found something "actor proximity position" |
| 06:37.37 | ArcanePariah | Afaik, no, but that is assuming it is based on centers. IN data, for area searches, there is a flag for expanding the search from the edge of the unit, instead of its center, but I do not know how to change that for triggers |
| 06:38.11 | dvzon | Im going to mess around with the data on that. Thank you so much for your help |
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| 08:03.04 | EntityEnigma | is there an actor message that can make a unit model appear darker? |
| 08:03.15 | EntityEnigma | like changing the color of a doodad? |
| 08:10.31 | A1win | set tint color |
| 08:11.10 | turtles1 | as A1win said. try fiddling with tint colour. But you can also set the lighting as well |
| 08:12.47 | EntityEnigma | ty ty |
| 08:14.49 | A1win | http://m.imgur.com/gallery/DEZNa1H |
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| 08:27.29 | EntityEnigma | Is there a way to change an armor icon for a specific unit? |
| 08:28.34 | EntityEnigma | like if you want each different unit to have a different icon |
| 08:28.43 | A1win | yeah |
| 08:28.59 | ArcanePariah | Yes |
| 08:29.11 | A1win | in unit actor |
| 08:29.18 | A1win | UI: Life Armor Icon and UI: Shield Armor Icon |
| 08:29.42 | A1win | can also change those with upgrades like they do with default SC2 stuff |
| 08:30.01 | EntityEnigma | kk |
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| 08:52.37 | G0A | man I hate humans |
| 08:52.47 | G0A | including myself |
| 08:53.13 | G0A | A1win is that real? |
| 08:53.31 | A1win | of course, it's on the internet |
| 08:54.04 | G0A | quite lol and there is a row to the normal ticket machines |
| 08:54.48 | G0A | I would be happy to do 30 squats instead of buying ticket |
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| 09:36.26 | A1win | hah, now the drones zap pickups towards the player |
| 09:42.56 | A1win | ...except that they shoot them to any direction at all |
| 10:11.58 | A1win | drones use seeker missile model now, looks better o: |
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| 10:24.41 | Zolden | http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/snova_17/42505524/1011326/1011326_original.gif |
| 10:28.59 | G0A | much better than angrybirds :D |
| 10:29.13 | A1win | should make that my new art style for this map |
| 10:29.15 | kingTD | http://i.imgur.com/yOqNpur.gif |
| 10:29.59 | A1win | I made aoe explosions apply force to pickups as well but not damage |
| 10:30.49 | A1win | and made drones prioritize targets as ships > projectiles > satellites > pickups, and when they shoot pickups they just move them around, and only shoot if the pickup is between the drone and the player ship (within 15 degree angle) |
| 10:31.04 | A1win | 30 degree actually |
| 10:31.13 | A1win | still haven't come up with the fourth weapon D: |
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| 10:32.26 | G0A | when I increase a unit's max life the life increases in the same ratio or by the same amount? |
| 10:32.35 | DeadZergling | is everything circles now at least? |
| 10:34.26 | G0A | A1win you could make weapon which missile splits after x time. |
| 10:34.50 | G0A | so it would be more effective if you shoot from long range |
| 10:35.11 | A1win | DeadZergling, circles? |
| 10:35.42 | DeadZergling | heh, making a second rocket launcher, commented on your creativity, said you should just make everything circles too |
| 10:36.03 | A1win | instead of? :X |
| 10:37.34 | A1win | maybe a shotgun kinda weapon? |
| 10:37.46 | DeadZergling | well, if you mean spread |
| 10:37.47 | A1win | lower fire rate than pew pew gun and projectiles spread around more |
| 10:37.53 | DeadZergling | it will be everyone's favorite |
| 10:38.06 | A1win | you have all weapons all the time now |
| 10:38.42 | DeadZergling | you don't understand |
| 10:38.49 | DeadZergling | people love the Spread |
| 10:38.54 | DeadZergling | is a contra thing |
| 10:38.55 | A1win | :x |
| 10:40.37 | Zolden | A1win priorities is a good idea |
| 10:41.15 | Zolden | A1win do weapons counter each other? |
| 10:41.29 | A1win | you mean rock-paper-scissors thing? |
| 10:41.33 | DeadZergling | girls in the livejournal gif obviously don't have good priorities |
| 10:42.28 | DeadZergling | sigh, hating making data abilities actually look cool |
| 10:43.54 | Zolden | A1win yea... not sure if it should super countery, just maybe each one to have a little stronger and weaker weapon to fight against |
| 10:44.15 | A1win | well it depends on range and cover mostly |
| 10:44.27 | A1win | pewpew gun is not very good when enemy is behind a planet |
| 10:44.46 | A1win | it's best at long range though |
| 10:44.46 | Zolden | A1win maybe create at least 5 new weapons to test them and pick the best ones |
| 10:44.59 | A1win | I can't even come up with one :P |
| 10:45.16 | DeadZergling | well you got bombs, drones w/ lasers, and pew pews so far right? |
| 10:45.29 | Zolden | A1win yes, now weapons are interesting and has diferent functionality, and I like each |
| 10:45.29 | A1win | DeadZergling, yeah |
| 10:46.05 | DeadZergling | Still no high power long reload laser, no spread, no mines, no ship self destruct mode |
| 10:46.22 | Zolden | spread is something I wish to see |
| 10:46.33 | Zolden | it's a classical weapon variation |
| 10:46.34 | A1win | yeahe making a spread weapon now |
| 10:48.20 | A1win | O.o shield regen stops when I shoot |
| 10:48.40 | A1win | oh actually, it stops when my missiles explode |
| 10:48.41 | A1win | for some reason |
| 10:49.50 | A1win | hah, had accidentally made it pause regen whenever a player's unit takes damage instead of just the ship ;p |
| 10:53.54 | Bommes | www.shadertoy.com this site is awesome btw |
| 10:57.18 | Zolden | yea https://www.shadertoy.com/view/MsSGRD |
| 11:02.13 | DeadZergling | Zolden, the man who can see the Hitler and Porn in anything |
| 11:03.37 | Bommes | he's a visionary |
| 11:03.41 | Bommes | pornshaders, it will be come a thing |
| 11:04.14 | kingTD | and mozzila borke |
| 11:04.26 | kingTD | thanks |
| 11:04.26 | Zolden | DeadZergling what is binary code, do you know? |
| 11:04.31 | Zolden | kingTD np |
| 11:04.41 | DeadZergling | is what computers see everything as |
| 11:04.53 | DeadZergling | is 10 types of people in the world of course Zolden |
| 11:05.00 | DeadZergling | People who understand binary, and those who don't. |
| 11:05.25 | Zolden | DeadZergling binary code is also a set of penises and vaginas |
| 11:05.45 | Ahli | :o |
| 11:06.14 | DeadZergling | You don't have a g/f, do you Z |
| 11:09.04 | DeadZergling | well who knows, guessing you don't tell everyone how much porn you find in everything in RL, lol |
| 11:11.21 | DeadZergling | sigh, why must maps have damn graphics anyways |
| 11:11.27 | DeadZergling | be so much simpler if they were just numbers |
| 11:25.32 | Ahli | just make a text based map |
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| 11:43.09 | DeadZergling | could, but don't think any would play |
| 11:43.22 | DeadZergling | pity I can't time travel 20 years back, when a text based game could really make it, lol |
| 11:45.34 | Delphinium | Oh my frog god, zolden's link is too porn... |
| 11:45.54 | DeadZergling | oh well, time to see how bad I screwed up my 2 new abilities |
| 11:51.06 | A1win | great, I've managed to make a weapon that spams 8 missiles per second that never hit anything I want |
| 11:52.19 | DeadZergling | heh, at least my ability successfully explodes a bird |
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| 11:52.54 | Brainshack | Hello! |
| 11:55.18 | DeadZergling | hell BS |
| 11:55.47 | DeadZergling | *hello BS, rather |
| 11:58.39 | Brainshack | hey |
| 11:58.43 | Brainshack | hows everyone doing |
| 11:59.39 | Ahli | :o did I miss new people coming here? |
| 12:00.11 | Brainshack | well im actually not too new to this chat, just has been a couple of years since i last was here lol |
| 12:00.59 | Ahli | oh, when it was in the first year of sc2, I wasn't here, yet. |
| 12:01.30 | Brainshack | yeah it was arround realese i guess |
| 12:01.36 | Brainshack | since i last tried the editor |
| 12:01.36 | DeadZergling | well my exploding bird ability working better |
| 12:01.46 | DeadZergling | overdid the graphic size quite a lot as usual |
| 12:01.46 | Brainshack | and everytime i try the editor i end up here |
| 12:01.50 | Brainshack | since nothing is working :P |
| 12:02.26 | Ahli | fastest help for the editor is this channel, indeed |
| 12:02.47 | DeadZergling | quickest source of porn/sarcasm too |
| 12:02.58 | Brainshack | so does anybody have a clue why i cant test my on and only game variant i have? it ignores the teams |
| 12:02.59 | Brainshack | qq |
| 12:03.05 | Brainshack | i like porn/sarcasm |
| 12:03.10 | Brainshack | seems like a great place |
| 12:03.10 | Brainshack | lol |
| 12:03.49 | Ahli | variants are only used online on bnet in the lobby. Test document just doesn't use game variants |
| 12:04.26 | Brainshack | how else is one supposed to test stuff then? oO |
| 12:04.51 | Brainshack | when the guys who are supposed to help me try to kill me instead |
| 12:04.54 | Ahli | or do you mean the bug on battle.net where you can move players into other teams even when teams are locked because dropping players on the team name works... |
| 12:05.02 | Brainshack | no when i test the map |
| 12:05.28 | Ahli | test document with computer players, maybe... |
| 12:05.34 | Brainshack | i have two teams and each team has a computer player which i wanna use to create unit waves |
| 12:05.38 | Brainshack | but they attack me |
| 12:05.39 | Brainshack | thats not fun |
| 12:05.40 | Brainshack | :( |
| 12:05.55 | Ahli | in test document every player receives his own team |
| 12:06.01 | Ahli | so p1 is team 1, p2 in team 2, etc |
| 12:06.28 | Ahli | I'm putting the players into groups and set all alliance settings for them, so I completly ignore the team stuff |
| 12:06.42 | Brainshack | vai triggers? |
| 12:06.44 | Brainshack | via~ |
| 12:06.49 | Ahli | yes |
| 12:07.09 | DeadZergling | another thing, if your attributes/variants absolutely aren't working |
| 12:07.16 | DeadZergling | is a tutorial on those in the tutorials section |
| 12:07.32 | DeadZergling | start from scratch, etc |
| 12:07.55 | A1win | this weapon is so weird D: |
| 12:08.03 | Brainshack | well if testing the map doesnt care about it, i guess triggers make sense |
| 12:08.10 | Brainshack | but its not really intuitive to start with |
| 12:08.13 | Brainshack | thats for sure |
| 12:08.29 | Ahli | yeah, one would need a way to set up a test document lobby for a map :S |
| 12:08.55 | Brainshack | just add an option to the map settings to set a default variant for testing |
| 12:09.08 | Brainshack | which i was searching for all the tim |
| 12:09.09 | Brainshack | ^ |
| 12:09.44 | Brainshack | ok triggers it is then |
| 12:09.46 | Brainshack | thanks a lot |
| 12:27.26 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHHSBQA9eB8 |
| 12:27.28 | A1win | x_X |
| 12:28.47 | Zolden | A1win maybe more randomness to the trajectories? |
| 12:29.20 | A1win | mm I guess, already been adding some after each test |
| 12:29.58 | Zolden | isn't it imba for very short distance? |
| 12:30.20 | A1win | not really, you can only hit with 2 at a time if you hug someone |
| 12:30.22 | Zolden | like shotgun in doom 2 when all little bullets hit 1 body |
| 12:30.35 | Zolden | ok |
| 12:30.38 | A1win | since every 2nd wave is launched from the sides of the ship |
| 12:32.05 | DeadZergling | looks good to me, know what gun I'm using next game |
| 12:32.26 | A1win | it's better than pewpew gun at low levels from close range but pewpew gun gets a 3rd projectile at higher levels |
| 12:34.58 | A1win | pewpew gun is 8 dmg 3 projectiles 4 shots per second, shitstorm missile is 8 dmg 2 projectiles 8 shots per second, but every 2nd projectile is launched to wider direction |
| 12:35.23 | A1win | the storm missiles get more damage, 12 at max lvl, pewpew gun gets 1 additional projectile |
| 12:35.44 | A1win | err that was pewpew gun's max lvl and storm missile's min level |
| 12:36.48 | A1win | so pewpew gun is 8*2*4 dps and missiles is 8*2*4 dps at lowest level, and at max they're 8*3*4 and 12*2*4 if you can hit with 2 missiles on every 2nd launch |
| 12:37.48 | A1win | the storm thingy might be a lot better at close range since you can hit more often, can't dodge it really |
| 12:37.51 | A1win | but so is drones |
| 12:38.29 | A1win | swarm missiles could be a better name than shitstorm missiles |
| 12:39.05 | DeadZergling | Locust Missiles? |
| 12:39.07 | Zolden | maybe a compromise - shitswarm missile |
| 12:39.22 | A1win | shit's warm missile |
| 12:39.27 | Zolden | lol |
| 12:39.40 | Zolden | it should look like a brown flame |
| 12:43.25 | A1win | hmm this might be good counter against drones |
| 12:47.44 | DeadZergling | almost done with my stupid healing abilities |
| 12:47.53 | DeadZergling | then can move on to the equally stupid buff abilities tommorrow |
| 12:48.35 | DeadZergling | looking pretty good A1win, get the weapons where you happy with them, then a few different stages, and I'd say you got a winner |
| 12:48.48 | DeadZergling | Like have a stage with random asteroids everywhere, no planets |
| 12:48.53 | DeadZergling | that sort of thing |
| 12:51.11 | Zolden | A1win btw, what about hostile computer players instead of the crates? Players that were killed and lost levels, now just kill crates, it's stupid. Make 'em farm on dangerous targets (but they should be weaker than human ships) |
| 12:51.47 | A1win | that requires AI ;p |
| 12:51.59 | Zolden | programming ai is fun |
| 12:52.37 | Zolden | just think in real world images, how human would act, and then jsut simplify and code it |
| 12:53.26 | A1win | <.< |
| 12:53.34 | A1win | that's not so simple in this gravity field |
| 12:54.39 | Zolden | i'd even make one for you, but still overflooded with my map's scripting |
| 12:56.35 | DeadZergling | Could just, ignore gravity for the AI |
| 12:56.43 | Zolden | no cheat! |
| 12:56.52 | DeadZergling | they are the computers, they always cheat |
| 12:57.23 | A1win | even deciding which direction to shoot at requires taking the gravity into account |
| 12:57.48 | Zolden | they will cheat by calculating a perfect decision for all details of the given circumstances |
| 12:58.17 | DeadZergling | almost got my Blessing of the Phoenix ability done anyways |
| 12:58.35 | DeadZergling | or rather, throwing a bird into the air which explodes and gives everyone increased regen/cure for 20 seconds, lol |
| 13:01.35 | A1win | maybe I should just take the level up items away from crates |
| 13:01.42 | A1win | make people steal more from kills |
| 13:01.43 | Zolden | A1win AI will have all information it needs: speed vector, local gravity vector, vector to the "average coordinate of local enemy projectiles" (easy to provide this information), and maybe vectors to the 2 closest enemy ships. This may be the "senses" of the AI. Having those, we can script a not so bad annd not so complicated decision making mechanism which will fly and shoot |
| 13:02.32 | A1win | how does it know what direction to shoot at |
| 13:02.44 | A1win | without doing heavy calculations with the gravity field |
| 13:04.03 | Zolden | A1win it will take into account the local gravity vector, and will shoot not to a single direction, but will spread the shoots within an angle, like humans do |
| 13:05.03 | Zolden | so, sometimes it will work, and no one awaits from AI to be always precise, it will be just stupid pirats, not trained mercenaries |
| 13:05.38 | DeadZergling | oh no, wanna make sure the AI is stupid |
| 13:05.50 | DeadZergling | no one likes computers that aim with 100 % accuracy |
| 13:06.08 | A1win | well that's going to be a lot of work no matter which way it's done |
| 13:06.16 | A1win | I might look into it later |
| 13:06.23 | A1win | as in after release or something |
| 13:06.38 | DeadZergling | should make an asteroids level though for release |
| 13:06.55 | Zolden | A1win ok, later, maybe then i'll have time to script it, you'll just have to calc the "senses" |
| 13:07.06 | A1win | yeah I'll make some different levels, or maybe a level generator |
| 13:08.27 | A1win | I was thinking of adding that powerful laser thing to right click instead of primary weapon |
| 13:08.32 | A1win | with a long cooldown |
| 13:08.35 | A1win | like a yamato gun |
| 13:08.39 | DeadZergling | can add asteroids and black holes |
| 13:08.42 | Zolden | A1win one of the levels should have a blackhole in the center |
| 13:08.45 | DeadZergling | those are fun spacey things |
| 13:08.47 | Zolden | lol DeadZergling |
| 13:08.49 | A1win | mm |
| 13:09.11 | Brainshack | nice weapon physics |
| 13:09.14 | A1win | that's like the first thing anyone thinks when talking about level variation for this :P |
| 13:09.18 | Brainshack | is this all done through data? |
| 13:09.30 | A1win | almost all of it is done through triggers |
| 13:09.51 | A1win | data just provides me with the assets, basically ;p |
| 13:09.53 | Brainshack | hows the performance in a big match? |
| 13:10.17 | A1win | it's fine, some older cpus have struggled a bit but I've tried reducing projectile count |
| 13:10.40 | Zolden | fps is about 100 as i remember |
| 13:10.45 | A1win | could fix it for good by making it use actors instead of units but that's a *lot* of work |
| 13:10.58 | A1win | yeah my fps is like 160 or so |
| 13:11.04 | A1win | but I have a new cpu |
| 13:11.07 | Brainshack | hm there isnt really much physics when it comes to weapons in starcraft 2 right? |
| 13:11.34 | A1win | sc2 weapons are only based on range |
| 13:11.36 | A1win | nothing more into it |
| 13:11.47 | Brainshack | wow |
| 13:11.48 | A1win | well, missiles use movers |
| 13:11.54 | Brainshack | then its even more impressing, kudos |
| 13:12.12 | A1win | yeah I've scripted the entire physics engine for this from scratch ;p |
| 13:12.16 | A1win | bounces and everything |
| 13:12.42 | DeadZergling | decided my bird should physically distort before exploding |
| 13:12.42 | A1win | the code isn't very pretty, but it works :P |
| 13:12.45 | Brainshack | would be great if they would enable us to use the internal physics engine of the game |
| 13:12.50 | DeadZergling | since being on fire just wasn't enough |
| 13:12.51 | Zolden | what's next A1win, abils? |
| 13:13.05 | A1win | Zolden, yeah I guess, teleport and yamato gun |
| 13:13.08 | A1win | and something |
| 13:13.21 | Zolden | Brainshack models can use physics |
| 13:13.47 | Zolden | but don't think we can use it for units |
| 13:13.55 | Zolden | only visuals |
| 13:14.11 | Brainshack | yeah but wouldnt it be cool to be able to do physically correct knockbacks and stuff |
| 13:14.35 | Zolden | they gave us the whole programming language, we can do what ever we want |
| 13:14.37 | A1win | you can script it ;x |
| 13:15.48 | A1win | 5256 lines of generated script code in this map now |
| 13:17.03 | Brainshack | well tbh the short time i looked into the scripting language used in the editor, i was not too impressed |
| 13:17.46 | A1win | it does lack objects and some fancy stuff but otherwise it's pretty powerful |
| 13:18.32 | DeadZergling | I should sleep instead of working on exploding birds |
| 13:18.51 | Brainshack | i would rather be able to let birds explode then to sleep |
| 13:19.08 | Brainshack | but unfortunatly im a beginner with all the stuff :D |
| 13:19.21 | Brainshack | but i have a tauren marine! |
| 13:19.28 | Brainshack | hes badass |
| 13:19.38 | Brainshack | his name is "The unkillable Tauren Super Marine" |
| 13:19.41 | DeadZergling | grats, but doesn't the editor have that by default? |
| 13:20.09 | Brainshack | yeah thats as far as i got so far lol |
| 13:20.17 | A1win | ugh I'm tired x.x slept only like 6 hours |
| 13:21.11 | A1win | I wonder how I can let players customize their stuff in this game |
| 13:21.15 | Zolden | sleep for noobs |
| 13:21.17 | A1win | if all the weapons are the same |
| 13:21.32 | Ahli | I slept 2 hours :) |
| 13:21.36 | Brainshack | add hats |
| 13:21.39 | Brainshack | <3 |
| 13:21.59 | Brainshack | or if you want it to be more next gen |
| 13:22.00 | Brainshack | add dogs |
| 13:22.00 | Brainshack | ! |
| 13:22.18 | A1win | then I can call this Space Hats and no need to think of a name for longer either O: |
| 13:23.02 | Brainshack | did you guys see the heros stuff from blizzcon? |
| 13:23.15 | A1win | some of it |
| 13:23.22 | Brainshack | it has one map that is actually two maps in one |
| 13:23.33 | Brainshack | and in the top level you can actually look down into the mine |
| 13:23.37 | Brainshack | that looked so sweet |
| 13:23.46 | Ahli | we have that technology already |
| 13:23.51 | A1win | yeah it renders a camera view on a texture |
| 13:25.00 | DeadZergling | Poor bird, I'm really stretching it around here |
| 13:25.34 | Brainshack | hm |
| 13:25.42 | Brainshack | you saw the gates in the demo? |
| 13:25.56 | Brainshack | which were only passable by members of a certain team?` |
| 13:26.00 | Brainshack | is that possible in sc2? |
| 13:26.27 | A1win | not with pathing at least, maybe with collisions |
| 13:26.58 | A1win | (or script) |
| 13:27.20 | Brainshack | well you would have a unit which other units can walk through, but only if the belong to certain players |
| 13:27.48 | A1win | there are several collision flags that you can abuse for that |
| 13:27.59 | A1win | like one team uses one collision flag and the other one another |
| 13:30.03 | Brainshack | would love to have stuff like this in my map |
| 13:30.19 | Brainshack | but the editor still is this big black void of unknown complicated stuff for me |
| 13:30.26 | Brainshack | pretty intimidating lol |
| 13:30.41 | A1win | in unit data, there's "Movement: Collide" field that has collision flags |
| 13:31.05 | A1win | which means that units that have the same flags enabled collide with each other |
| 13:31.31 | A1win | (but this doesn't affect pathing, so units with any ground collision flag will always collide with buildings and cliffs and stuff no matter what collision flags those have) |
| 13:32.44 | Brainshack | wow there is acutually stuff called unuse |
| 13:32.46 | Brainshack | d |
| 13:32.54 | Brainshack | gotta try this out |
| 13:32.56 | Brainshack | thanks for the hint |
| 13:35.13 | A1win | called it firefly missile :I |
| 13:35.33 | A1win | though the name isn't visible in-game for now anyway |
| 13:36.14 | A1win | pewpew, fireflies, rocket launcher, drone launcher |
| 13:36.19 | A1win | in that order |
| 13:38.11 | A1win | wondering if I should put ability hotkeys into letter keys instead of shift+number |
| 13:38.58 | A1win | like q,e,r,t or something |
| 13:39.13 | A1win | ugly asymmetry ;p |
| 13:39.26 | DeadZergling | e being previous, r being next |
| 13:39.29 | DeadZergling | be nicer |
| 13:39.47 | A1win | weapons aren't switched like that, though |
| 13:39.52 | DeadZergling | or could utilize z x c v instead |
| 13:40.06 | A1win | I don't like z, it's right under my palm :I |
| 13:40.12 | DeadZergling | isn't like you gonna be switching weaps all the time |
| 13:40.21 | DeadZergling | guess no pew pews for A1 ever! |
| 13:40.25 | A1win | well you kind of are ;p |
| 13:40.33 | A1win | situations change quickly |
| 13:41.33 | DeadZergling | all right, I can finish perfecting my exploding phoenix later |
| 13:41.35 | Brainshack | use mousewheel maybe? |
| 13:41.37 | DeadZergling | I need sleep for work now, lol |
| 13:41.49 | A1win | I don't think we can catch wheel events |
| 13:42.10 | Brainshack | isnt it just anther mouse button? |
| 13:42.17 | A1win | thumb buttons we can but not everyone has those ;p |
| 13:42.22 | A1win | not in SC2 apparently :P |
| 13:42.32 | A1win | there's only left, middle, right, xbutton1, xbutton2 |
| 13:42.40 | Brainshack | prly hard coded for zooming |
| 13:43.27 | A1win | and it would be weird to switch one slot with keys and the other with mouse |
| 13:43.44 | DeadZergling | later all, maybe I can mess with the new map tomorrow morning A1win :) |
| 13:43.56 | Brainshack | gnight |
| 13:44.04 | A1win | night |
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| 13:51.33 | A1win | mmh maybe warp drive instead of teleport, increases maximum speed and acceleration for a short duration |
| 13:53.00 | Zolden | acceleration would be enough, it's about maneuring |
| 13:53.26 | A1win | yeah but it wouldn't be as cool ;p |
| 13:53.39 | A1win | it'd only do anything if you are changing direction, not help you get forward any faster |
| 13:53.49 | Zolden | ok then, some may find it fun to fly faster then others |
| 13:53.56 | Zolden | *than |
| 13:54.11 | A1win | it'll be more useful |
| 13:54.20 | A1win | you can use it for both purposes then |
| 13:54.36 | Zolden | yea |
| 13:54.55 | A1win | energy drinks make me sleep less so I get tired and need more energy drinks the next day D: |
| 13:55.31 | A1win | I've been imagining that energy drinks make me less creative but I think it's just me not being on a good mood or something ;p |
| 13:55.31 | Brainshack | vicious circle |
| 14:06.07 | A1win | mmh if abilities share cooldown, I wonder how much people will alter which ability to use |
| 14:06.43 | A1win | I guess just needs to be well balanced |
| 14:06.54 | Zolden | A1win you can compensate them with a weed at evening |
| 14:08.02 | Zolden | it's good to fall asleep and sleep like 10-12 hours |
| 14:08.42 | Zolden | also, it boosts creativity, so probably you won't go sleep in time being busi implementing ideas |
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| 14:27.39 | A1win | whee, warp drive works |
| 14:27.45 | A1win | just needs some visuals and sounds |
| 14:31.15 | G0A | ehh "North Korea publicly executed around 80 people earlier this month, many for watching smuggled South Korean TV shows" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/11/north-korea-public-execution_n_4252610.html |
| 14:36.11 | A1win | great place to live >_> |
| 14:36.31 | A1win | there's no motion blur in SC2? |
| 14:41.52 | Dustin | woahh |
| 14:42.06 | Dustin | Did you guys hear Server-Side banks in 2.2? |
| 14:42.14 | A1win | ;O |
| 14:42.34 | Brainshack | is this you Dustin Browder`? |
| 14:42.42 | A1win | not quite |
| 14:42.44 | Brainshack | 2.2? there is not even a ptr for 2.1 |
| 14:42.44 | Dustin | Does every new person have to ask that? :P |
| 14:42.48 | Zolden | A1win you mean the one high templar uses? |
| 14:43.08 | Dustin | Brainshack, they planned for it to be in 2.1 but it didnt make it |
| 14:43.16 | A1win | Zolden, the one what? |
| 14:43.41 | Zolden | motion blur |
| 14:43.41 | A1win | it's a visual effect |
| 14:43.50 | A1win | I mean to the whole screen |
| 14:43.51 | A1win | not to a unit |
| 14:44.12 | A1win | though I guess that kind of efffect would be neat for warp drive |
| 14:44.14 | Brainshack | its nothing you would usually want in a rts, isnt it? |
| 14:44.32 | A1win | yeah but asking if it can be enabled somehow ;p |
| 14:44.48 | Brainshack | just take your monitor and shake it :D |
| 14:45.06 | Brainshack | and add a message on the screen "now shake your monitor for full enjoyment" |
| 14:45.13 | Brainshack | OR |
| 14:45.14 | Brainshack | shake your head |
| 14:45.15 | Brainshack | even better! |
| 14:45.22 | Zolden | Dustin I was always a bit shy to ask |
| 14:45.22 | Ahli | dustin browder hadn't have the time to use the editor, yet. |
| 14:45.27 | Zolden | but are you Dustin Browder? |
| 14:45.50 | Brainshack | but he was in that one carbot animation |
| 14:46.16 | Ahli | I wasn't sure if he meant the galaxy editor in general or the heroes version of it |
| 14:46.24 | Dustin | Psha, I was Dustin in SC before Browder was sucking his own dick |
| 14:46.49 | Brainshack | Dustin Browder has all his drinks on the rocks |
| 14:46.51 | Brainshack | :D |
| 14:47.03 | Dustin | Well so do I |
| 14:47.10 | Brainshack | So it is you! |
| 14:47.11 | Dustin | It's a Dustin thing |
| 14:47.11 | Brainshack | :D |
| 14:47.41 | Brainshack | so please nerf toss and terran allready, thx |
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| 14:49.11 | Kueken | My roommate bake me a cake :D |
| 14:49.22 | Kueken | pretty sure its no lie either |
| 14:49.40 | Zolden | my roomcake make be a bake |
| 14:51.00 | Kueken | you have a roomcake? |
| 14:51.04 | Kueken | now I'm jealous |
| 14:51.24 | Dustin | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQp5l4-sfFA |
| 14:52.14 | Dustin | I assume that's how the cake was made |
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| 15:00.35 | A1win | so fun to bombard planets with the firefly missiles |
| 15:00.49 | A1win | it's like hugging a world |
| 15:03.09 | Zolden | :) |
| 15:03.36 | Zolden | can players avoid mass missiles? |
| 15:04.08 | A1win | they can fly away, it doesn't have very long range |
| 15:04.35 | A1win | but we'll see if it needs to be balanced more |
| 15:05.06 | Zolden | do pews and missiles kill each other on impact? |
| 15:05.21 | A1win | no, both of these have zero mass so they can pass through each other |
| 15:05.39 | A1win | otherwise the missiles would be hitting themselves |
| 15:05.59 | A1win | so pew is a good counter for the missiles I guess |
| 15:06.13 | A1win | you can shoot from far away and not have your projectiles obstructed |
| 15:06.42 | A1win | and the aoe orb also goes through the missiles, takes quite a lot of missiles to destroy it |
| 15:07.00 | Zolden | nice |
| 15:08.02 | Kueken | Dustin: How to bake a cake. Take 1/2 gallon ow WHAT! and add 250 gram YEAH! |
| 15:08.17 | Dustin | OKAYYY |
| 15:08.25 | Dustin | :D |
| 15:08.29 | Kueken | almost forgot |
| 15:08.56 | Kueken | although it seems mine has cherries |
| 15:09.27 | Kueken | but well, she didn't officially give it to me yet :p |
| 15:11.21 | Kueken | but since it has a birthday note and the dates strangely coincide, I will take a wild guess here |
| 15:11.30 | Kueken | (also my name stands on it) |
| 15:11.35 | A1win | ha, made the missiles even more random by changing launch velocity to 90% - 110% at random |
| 15:12.11 | A1win | shopping time |
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| 15:54.34 | TitanicSoundtrac | Kueken, why am I always so annoyig? |
| 15:55.31 | Kueken | I guess anyone who asks this question knows the answer :) |
| 15:56.57 | TitanicSoundtrac | Kueken, I don't. |
| 15:57.01 | TitanicSoundtrac | I want to get rid of it |
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| 16:11.07 | A1win | oh yeah changed firefly missile to use interceptor sounds |
| 16:11.16 | A1win | nice pop pop pop impact sounds now |
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| 16:12.46 | A1win | launch sound is a bit too long though, I'll try increasing pitch or something |
| 16:14.07 | Zolden | A1win you can also start the sound with offset by time |
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| 16:14.34 | A1win | well then it'll cut it? ;x |
| 16:14.50 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:14.58 | Zolden | if you start from 0.5 sec for example |
| 16:15.34 | Zolden | i use it and it sounds good, it also cuts the loud attack phase, so launch sounds softer |
| 16:15.42 | A1win | hmm |
| 16:15.50 | A1win | is that in milliseconds |
| 16:15.56 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:18.05 | A1win | mmh for some reason it sounds like it doesn't affect it at all |
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| 16:19.03 | A1win | still plays the whole sound |
| 16:19.18 | Zolden | sec, i'll check the event to use |
| 16:19.33 | A1win | I'm editing this in the sound data entry |
| 16:19.52 | A1win | and I play it with triggers, maybe that's why D: |
| 16:20.00 | A1win | since it has its own skip parameter |
| 16:21.05 | Zolden | i never had sound entries parameters work except pitch/colume |
| 16:21.18 | A1win | skipping it in triggers seems to work |
| 16:21.27 | A1win | much better ;p |
| 16:21.33 | Zolden | but "sound set offset" event works |
| 16:21.49 | A1win | up for a test? |
| 16:22.15 | Zolden | i'm in a middle of big thing, don't wnat to interrupt myself |
| 16:22.22 | A1win | alright |
| 16:29.31 | A1win | whee, dying ships now create a 0 dmg aoe explosion that throws stuff around |
| 16:33.05 | Zolden | cool |
| 16:33.36 | A1win | crates have smaller explosion sound than before ;p |
| 16:41.42 | A1win | the leveling system doesn't seem quite right yet |
| 16:45.33 | Zolden | maybe exp points instead of level ups? like +1 level point per kill and +1 per pickup. And lvl 1 requires 1 point, lvl 2 - 2 more, 3 - 3 more and so on |
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| 16:46.13 | A1win | it's not that, it's probably that it isn't visualized very well |
| 16:46.25 | A1win | you don't know what level others are and not easy to even notice your own le vel |
| 16:47.08 | Zolden | maybe aura? |
| 16:47.27 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/45/70/QQ20131115004350.jpg |
| 16:47.38 | Zolden | or world oriented set of little stars |
| 16:48.20 | Zolden | what a kick, bitch is lucky hse had a shield |
| 16:51.20 | Delphinium | that's the shock wave from Jim's kick. |
| 16:52.17 | Zolden | then bitch is fucked |
| 16:53.26 | turtles1 | his foot is three feet away from her chest |
| 16:54.00 | Brainshack | hmm |
| 16:54.24 | Brainshack | i wonder if there is any good terran melee unit that i could use except the firebat? maybe from the campaign? |
| 16:54.56 | Delphinium | Terrible terrible damage |
| 16:54.58 | turtles1 | those robot cats? |
| 16:55.14 | turtles1 | from WOL? |
| 16:55.26 | G0A | those robot cats are awesome |
| 16:55.42 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/861/7.jpg |
| 16:55.52 | Brainshack | predator |
| 16:55.55 | Brainshack | was it i think? |
| 16:56.31 | turtles1 | yes, predator |
| 16:57.04 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/40/281/QQ20130616224711.gif |
| 16:57.07 | turtles1 | they weren't much use as a unit cause they would always die too quickly |
| 16:57.11 | Delphinium | how about this one |
| 16:57.17 | turtles1 | But I would still make them cause they were awesome |
| 16:58.48 | Brainshack | the jedi marine |
| 16:58.48 | Brainshack | wow |
| 16:59.22 | Delphinium | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/49267-sc2-particle-test-of-star-tools/?page=8#p155 |
| 16:59.34 | Delphinium | here you can find the download link. |
| 17:00.02 | Brainshack | you created this one? |
| 17:00.40 | turtles1 | hmmm aparently the robo cats origionally had a cloak ability! That would have been cool |
| 17:01.08 | Brainshack | now im torn |
| 17:01.10 | Delphinium | yea, a guy from China sent me the request, so I created that for him |
| 17:01.21 | Brainshack | i like the cats, but that marine looks so sick |
| 17:02.00 | Brainshack | the question is, can i get it to work since i never ever used a custom model before^^ |
| 17:03.11 | Delphinium | It's as good as blizzard's original models, cotain all kinds of plugin and controllers, so it's easy to use. |
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| 17:10.50 | A1win | damn this is a nice weapon now |
| 17:11.02 | A1win | I changed the level ups to increase missiles instead of increase damage |
| 17:11.15 | A1win | and decreased missile life time to compensate so that there aren't too many missiles around |
| 17:11.21 | A1win | still creates a pretty pattern |
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| 17:16.53 | Brainshack | wow |
| 17:16.57 | Brainshack | i actually got it to work |
| 17:17.01 | Brainshack | thats a sweet model^^ |
| 17:17.03 | JademusSreg | No wai |
| 17:17.25 | Brainshack | i never did that before |
| 17:17.39 | Brainshack | so i am somewhat proud of myself that i got it to work in the first try^^ |
| 17:17.54 | Brainshack | and it only took me like 10 minutes |
| 17:19.03 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:20.40 | Delphinium | : ) |
| 17:21.20 | Brainshack | srsly this model kicks ass |
| 17:21.27 | Brainshack | better then i could have imagined |
| 17:21.28 | Brainshack | lightsabers |
| 17:21.30 | Brainshack | just wow^^ |
| 17:22.11 | Zolden | A1win ok, i'd test now |
| 17:22.27 | A1win | uploading a video, 10 more minutes |
| 17:22.31 | Zolden | ok |
| 17:31.27 | Delphinium | http://puu.sh/5idRo.jpg Checking my mod for nanakey |
| 17:31.47 | turtles1 | Managed to make the entire SC2 window go fuzzy, start to flicker like crazy |
| 17:32.07 | turtles1 | not sure if it's something I did or if my graphics card started having a seizure |
| 17:32.15 | turtles1 | that only effected that window |
| 17:33.01 | turtles1 | either way, thats enough SC2 for me for one night. Bye people |
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| 17:34.51 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5B8w_Qa_vA |
| 17:35.10 | A1win | Zolden, will take a bit longer, I'll go sit naked in a very hot room for some time |
| 17:37.27 | Zolden | ok :) |
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| 17:49.26 | Zolden | guys, how can I edit, what conditions are showed in the tooltip when a requirement isn't met? |
| 17:50.19 | Zolden | i want to replace these for something simple http://i.snag.gy/64KmS.jpg |
| 17:57.36 | Ahli | hearthstone was created with unity3d |
| 17:58.13 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 17:58.14 | Bommes | woot? |
| 17:59.25 | Ahli | it has files named "actors0.unity3d" |
| 17:59.49 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
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| 18:00.15 | Bommes | well unity is a pretty good engine |
| 18:00.28 | Bommes | surprised it wasn't ever mentioned "officially" before though |
| 18:00.51 | JademusSreg | Imagine it saved on dev time. |
| 18:02.33 | Brainshack | tlp wins zvz with a spore crawler rush |
| 18:02.36 | Brainshack | wtf did i just watch |
| 18:02.54 | Bommes | Jade, you know https://www.shadertoy.com/ ? I only learned about that site today... |
| 18:03.10 | Bommes | WebGL is pretty exciting, I'm sure it's used for many projects in the near future |
| 18:03.30 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:03.48 | Brainshack | not surprised at all, hearthstones first prototype have actually been web apps |
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| 18:26.34 | A1win | back |
| 18:26.44 | A1win | test soon? |
| 18:31.12 | Zolden | yea |
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| 18:39.27 | A1win | I wonder if I could make some kind of "dead ends" in the map, like connect two planets together with a beam/lift/whatever that blocks stuff |
| 18:39.35 | Bommes | wow twitch tv for eu is SO bad |
| 18:39.37 | Bommes | unwatchable |
| 18:40.32 | A1win | JademusSreg, got time for a test? |
| 18:40.58 | Dustin | ill hop on |
| 18:43.20 | A1win | Zolden, ready? |
| 18:43.25 | Dustin | A1win, that'd be cool some rando generated force walls between planets |
| 18:43.37 | Dustin | Maybe have them cycle during the match |
| 18:44.15 | A1win | dunno about that, better to let players memorize the map |
| 18:45.11 | Dustin | How many maps you gonna have? |
| 18:45.33 | A1win | no idea, but I mean even during one round if it's a random generated map |
| 18:45.36 | A1win | to not have it change |
| 18:45.49 | Dustin | Ah ya I gotcha |
| 18:50.12 | Ahli | bommes, works for me on high |
| 18:50.33 | Dustin | Zolden, Let's do this shit so I can blast you |
| 18:51.45 | Dustin | I know you're scared cause it runs in your russian blood, but come onnnnn. |
| 18:51.54 | Dustin | :D |
| 18:52.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster mille25 (548734f4@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.135.52.244) |
| 18:52.29 | mille25 | hey |
| 18:52.37 | A1win | should I stream this game o: |
| 18:53.19 | Zolden | A1win aren't you started yet? |
| 18:53.22 | Zolden | i'd come |
| 18:53.23 | mille25 | hey, anybody here knows if there is a way to detect any sort of morph through triggers and receive the morphed unit? |
| 18:53.27 | A1win | we're on |
| 18:53.49 | mille25 | for example a unborrowing roach |
| 18:54.02 | Dustin | mille25, you should be able to detect abilities, so I would think that includes morphs |
| 18:54.26 | mille25 | yeah but burrow for example has an own burrow ability for each unit |
| 18:54.30 | mille25 | im searching a generic way |
| 18:54.53 | Dustin | give me an example of your desired use |
| 18:55.10 | mille25 | lets say i create a burrowed roach on the map |
| 18:55.13 | mille25 | and it unborrows |
| 18:55.19 | mille25 | then i want to receive the unburrowing roach unit |
| 18:55.38 | mille25 | and lets say... print its location as a simple example |
| 18:56.34 | Dustin | You just use an event "Any unit - Uses UnBurrow at whatever Stage" Then you can reference the Casting unit |
| 18:56.40 | ArcanePariah | ^ |
| 18:56.48 | Zolden | kingTD wanna join test? |
| 18:56.51 | mille25 | no that doesnt work |
| 18:56.55 | mille25 | there is about 50 unborrows |
| 18:57.01 | Zolden | JademusSreg wanna join test? |
| 18:57.01 | Dustin | So what? |
| 18:57.06 | kingTD | cant |
| 18:57.09 | mille25 | thats a hacky, nuby solution :D |
| 18:57.18 | mille25 | what about vikings, etc |
| 18:57.25 | mille25 | id have to put it in all manually |
| 18:57.27 | Dustin | Wait, you have 50 different abilities |
| 18:57.33 | Dustin | But they are all of Burrow type |
| 18:57.46 | ArcanePariah | Well Burrow isn't a type, its a morph |
| 18:57.51 | ArcanePariah | with a flag set |
| 18:57.51 | mille25 | yeah morph |
| 18:57.54 | Dustin | See that's a lot more broad then what you explained |
| 18:57.55 | ArcanePariah | Not much else |
| 18:58.18 | A1win | http://www.twitch.tv/a1win |
| 18:58.20 | mille25 | Dustin: nope, thats exactly my initial question :D |
| 18:59.04 | mille25 | okay one sec, might have smth.. |
| 18:59.43 | Dustin | Im going to say you'll have to make your own system for detecting the type of abilities and applying things in a gerneral sense |
| 19:00.01 | Dustin | Like substring the abilty name if you have them organized properly |
| 19:00.58 | mille25 | okay so there is an ablity class check |
| 19:01.02 | mille25 | which includes morph |
| 19:01.09 | mille25 | so that way i could filter all morphs |
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| 19:15.18 | mille25 | alright cool, got it |
| 19:15.41 | mille25 | they have created special ability stages just for morphs |
| 19:18.00 | Zolden | A1win shift + number switch is clumsy |
| 19:18.07 | A1win | mm maybe |
| 19:18.14 | Zolden | q + e to list between abils would be better |
| 19:18.33 | A1win | it just seems weird to have different kind of controls for two identical features |
| 19:19.30 | A1win | abils aren't targeted, they could potentially even be usable by just pressing the button if they were visible all the time |
| 19:19.50 | A1win | then they should have longer cooldowns and have individual CDs |
| 19:19.53 | Zolden | lol, because letters are not numbers? |
| 19:20.02 | A1win | no, because weapons aren't cycled by two keys |
| 19:20.34 | Zolden | atm q and e could execute the abils |
| 19:20.54 | Zolden | and it could be useful to do both at the same time to attack |
| 19:20.58 | A1win | yeah if the button press is directly to execute then it would work, but they'd have to be visible |
| 19:21.26 | A1win | then mouse2 would be free for... what ;p |
| 19:21.47 | A1win | maybe mouse1 always has pewpew gun and mouse2 is a changeable weapon slot |
| 19:22.18 | Dustin | ohh interesting |
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| 19:23.00 | A1win | then I could allow altering weapon loadout before respawning |
| 19:23.01 | Dustin | I still always wanna use space in your map |
| 19:23.07 | A1win | :x |
| 19:23.21 | A1win | what does space do in space? ;p |
| 19:23.36 | Dustin | Like everytime im on the planet, I wanna hit space bar to jump off lol |
| 19:23.41 | A1win | hehe |
| 19:23.48 | A1win | I had it like that at some point but it wasn't very useful |
| 19:24.06 | Dustin | That's probably why I keep trying to do it on accident |
| 19:24.26 | A1win | it was like a one time test :P |
| 19:24.32 | A1win | but yeah you might have been there |
| 19:24.45 | Dustin | Ya I don't remember lol |
| 19:25.42 | A1win | but yeah could make a lot more interesting fights if all abils were on separate cooldowns |
| 19:25.51 | A1win | (and longer cooldowns obviously) |
| 19:34.13 | A1win | what if all weapons had a normal mode in mouse1 and a "more aoe" mode in mouse2 D: |
| 19:39.57 | A1win | wouldn't have so many slots that behave in a different manner |
| 19:40.20 | A1win | pewpew gun could have a "shoot projectiles into all directions" mode in mouse2, for example |
| 19:41.02 | A1win | though not sure what the firefly missiles would do :P |
| 19:41.11 | A1win | maybe this is their aoe mode and the normal mode is something different |
| 19:41.27 | A1win | like 3 forked missiles or something |
| 19:43.33 | A1win | bomb cannon might launch a few smaller bombs in rapid succession before going on cooldown |
| 19:44.50 | A1win | drone launcher might just launch drones to all directions but have a longer cooldown when using the 2nd mode |
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| 19:55.16 | DeadZergling | Make an asteroids level yet a1win? |
| 19:55.57 | A1win | nope ;p uploading a multiplayer test video |
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| 19:56.40 | DeadZergling | really do hope you come up with a name other than Space Hats |
| 19:56.51 | A1win | improved the swarm missiles |
| 19:57.05 | A1win | they're pretty awesome now D: |
| 19:57.23 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5B8w_Qa_vA |
| 19:57.33 | A1win | just have too short range |
| 19:58.39 | A1win | or maybe not, we learned to use them better later on |
| 19:58.46 | A1win | nice in combination with warp drive ;p |
| 19:59.41 | DeadZergling | I see you got a range limiter |
| 19:59.48 | Ahli | is there something like a railgun from quake3? :D just add an initial delay to the beam.. |
| 19:59.52 | A1win | it's just a timed life |
| 19:59.53 | DeadZergling | next step is, test with 8 players (or was 6 your max) |
| 20:00.02 | A1win | 6 is max |
| 20:00.04 | DeadZergling | all spam the Locust missiles |
| 20:00.09 | A1win | we've tested with 6 |
| 20:00.10 | DeadZergling | make sure it doesn't cause, problems |
| 20:00.19 | A1win | the locust count is not higher than other weapon projectile count |
| 20:00.41 | A1win | but yeah everything will be tested :P |
| 20:00.51 | DeadZergling | I see, just look much spammier |
| 20:01.04 | A1win | mm they die faster |
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| 20:07.38 | MoonEater916 | hihi |
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| 20:32.25 | MoonEater916 | JAde |
| 20:45.57 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uuXtHT5Ku0k here's from our multiplayer test |
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| 20:51.57 | Zolden | guys, what this returns? GameAttributePlayersForTeam(1) |
| 20:52.38 | Zolden | will this say if player 1 belongs to team 1? (GameAttributePlayersForTeam(1) == PlayerGroupSingle(1)) |
| 20:53.21 | Zolden | feels like it uses it uses a reloaded == operator |
| 20:58.40 | MoonEater916 | ya |
| 20:58.45 | MoonEater916 | Zolden its team 1 |
| 20:58.46 | MoonEater916 | ok |
| 20:58.57 | MoonEater916 | Zolden, can u attach points to points in data? |
| 21:00.01 | Zolden | dunno |
| 21:00.38 | MoonEater916 | damn |
| 21:01.07 | MoonEater916 | well if i want a model to hold weapon, i would attach a weapon to a hand attachment |
| 21:01.11 | MoonEater916 | ? |
| 21:01.13 | MoonEater916 | right |
| 21:02.01 | MoonEater916 | i should go rip kobold. |
| 21:02.03 | DeadZergling | doing the real important stuff at work today, winning 3 out of 4 games of pool, lol |
| 21:02.11 | MoonEater916 | ... |
| 21:02.12 | MoonEater916 | lozl |
| 21:02.22 | MoonEater916 | cheers for deadzergling |
| 21:04.39 | DeadZergling | nice job using strategy there a1win, hitting with the rocket launcher t hen finishing with pew pews |
| 21:04.48 | A1win | hehe |
| 21:05.16 | Zolden | MoonEater916 attachment points and points are different things |
| 21:05.26 | Zolden | attaching stuff is possible |
| 21:05.35 | Zolden | but it attaches origin of the model |
| 21:07.24 | MoonEater916 | so |
| 21:07.31 | MoonEater916 | i adjust the origin of the weapon down? |
| 21:08.10 | Zolden | origin is an invisible bone that is created at 0, 0, 0, |
| 21:08.15 | Zolden | it's not origin attachment point |
| 21:08.40 | Zolden | but there is a tiny chance that i'm wrong |
| 21:09.06 | DeadZergling | range on locust missiles definitely needs to be longer |
| 21:09.56 | MoonEater916 | So Zolden, i adjust the model off the origin? |
| 21:10.03 | MoonEater916 | sounds hard.... |
| 21:10.09 | MoonEater916 | to posiiton it right |
| 21:10.25 | DeadZergling | I see why Zolden likes testing your map so much |
| 21:10.34 | DeadZergling | he keeps winning, lol |
| 21:11.22 | Zolden | reason and consequence are switched in your supposition DeadZergling |
| 21:11.40 | MoonEater916 | lol |
| 21:12.00 | Zolden | *swapped |
| 21:13.20 | MoonEater916 | Zolden! |
| 21:13.26 | MoonEater916 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.41 | DeadZergling | spent a couple hours last night making a bird explosion funner to watch |
| 21:14.49 | MoonEater916 | i spent last night woring on making link hold a damn sword |
| 21:15.39 | DeadZergling | hasn't link always used swords? |
| 21:16.17 | kingTD | blizzcon starcraft 2 panel http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYysmcCBtV8 |
| 21:17.13 | Triceron | that panel needed more maptalk |
| 21:17.13 | Triceron | :P |
| 21:17.33 | MoonEater916 | DeadZergling yes but i wanted him to be able to switch between swords |
| 21:17.43 | MoonEater916 | without having to reanimate link for each sword |
| 21:17.56 | kingTD | for us mappers for sure it needed |
| 21:18.20 | Zolden | MoonEater916 yea |
| 21:20.03 | MoonEater916 | Zolden, i cant just change the origin bone? |
| 21:28.17 | A1win | whee abilities are in separate slots now |
| 21:30.20 | Zolden | MoonEater916 you don't control it, it will be created at 0, 0, 0 and be the rott model's bohne, and the point this model be controlled through |
| 21:30.44 | Zolden | kingTD guess waht |
| 21:30.54 | kingTD | tomorrow testing day? |
| 21:31.07 | Zolden | omg, it's friday yet tomorrow? |
| 21:31.09 | Zolden | crap |
| 21:31.29 | MoonEater916 | ya i in california |
| 21:31.40 | MoonEater916 | only place closer to the date line is hawaii |
| 21:31.43 | Zolden | it's friday yet here |
| 21:31.47 | MoonEater916 | ull hit friday before me |
| 21:31.57 | MoonEater916 | long efore |
| 21:32.03 | MoonEater916 | mapnight for me is tonight |
| 21:32.05 | MoonEater916 | XD |
| 21:32.07 | MoonEater916 | thursday |
| 21:32.19 | Zolden | u'll hit friday before me, next friday for me is in a week, and yours in 10.5 hours |
| 21:32.42 | MoonEater916 | LOLZ |
| 21:32.45 | MoonEater916 | right |
| 21:32.46 | Zolden | na ppl participate eu map night too |
| 21:32.56 | MoonEater916 | im in class |
| 21:33.00 | MoonEater916 | and i hate my project group |
| 21:33.01 | Zolden | you're in ass |
| 21:33.04 | Zolden | sorry |
| 21:33.21 | MoonEater916 | these chicks r fucking driving me bat shit stupid |
| 21:33.42 | Zolden | you kill chicks and it's your projects? |
| 21:33.58 | MoonEater916 | we have to sit togeather in class and they sit here wispering to eachother shit about other people in the class and the teachers |
| 21:34.10 | Zolden | are they black? |
| 21:34.14 | MoonEater916 | we have to sit togeather in class and they sit here wispering to eachother shit about other people in the class and the teachers |
| 21:34.17 | MoonEater916 | no they white |
| 21:34.32 | DeadZergling | you on easy mode |
| 21:34.35 | MoonEater916 | Self healing materials have thousands of applications and these chicks only care about thier cellphones |
| 21:34.39 | DeadZergling | you get used to them, you sit together with latinos |
| 21:34.39 | Zolden | is it racist to give white chocolate to black girl? |
| 21:34.45 | DeadZergling | hardest difficulty |
| 21:35.00 | MoonEater916 | i like latinos |
| 21:35.04 | DeadZergling | they talk much more, at much higher speeds |
| 21:35.07 | MoonEater916 | well actually |
| 21:35.12 | MoonEater916 | let me put it this way |
| 21:35.26 | MoonEater916 | every race has thier own version of that loud ego girl |
| 21:35.31 | DeadZergling | alone, they are fine |
| 21:35.31 | MoonEater916 | i hate those |
| 21:35.37 | MoonEater916 | the loud black chick |
| 21:35.40 | DeadZergling | but put several of the women together |
| 21:35.43 | MoonEater916 | the preppy white girl |
| 21:35.52 | MoonEater916 | the latino that thinks everyones no good |
| 21:35.57 | DeadZergling | be quieter in a hen house on one of Zolden's bad days |
| 21:36.01 | MoonEater916 | and isnt shy to say it |
| 21:36.17 | MoonEater916 | LOLZ |
| 21:36.33 | Zolden | MoonEater916 have they developed some boobs on them yet? |
| 21:36.53 | MoonEater916 | its college |
| 21:36.55 | MoonEater916 | they good looking |
| 21:36.57 | MoonEater916 | but |
| 21:37.09 | DeadZergling | by the way, this guy, funny as hell: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94Y6y1MOoEo |
| 21:37.20 | Zolden | what if you suggest to reveal their boobs in front of you? |
| 21:37.22 | DeadZergling | at least if you liked the 8 bit/16 bit era any |
| 21:37.26 | MoonEater916 | but they the kind of girl that turns a shy quiet man into an abusive wife beater |
| 21:37.42 | MoonEater916 | Zolden, i know ur not from america |
| 21:37.44 | MoonEater916 | but in america |
| 21:37.56 | MoonEater916 | you can get in alot of trouble for that |
| 21:38.13 | MoonEater916 | especially on campuses. |
| 21:38.32 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 21:38.49 | MoonEater916 | they are cracking down on guys who squeeze girls butts |
| 21:38.54 | MoonEater916 | its sexual assal |
| 21:38.55 | MoonEater916 | t |
| 21:39.06 | MoonEater916 | 5-10 years prision with |
| 21:39.17 | MoonEater916 | sex registration for the rest of thier life |
| 21:39.36 | MoonEater916 | basically dont look at girl weirdly |
| 21:40.35 | Zolden | DeadZergling it's a shitty game he talked about |
| 21:40.52 | DeadZergling | he talks about tons of games |
| 21:41.15 | DeadZergling | just watch it, give it a chance, we click your links for some reason |
| 21:41.41 | MoonEater916 | i dont |
| 21:41.51 | Zolden | i just gave it a chance, and the game is shitty, i don't care what he said when he says it about something i don't like |
| 21:41.53 | MoonEater916 | i click stewox links for some damn reason tho |
| 21:42.00 | MoonEater916 | cant get my head around it |
| 21:42.05 | Zolden | i even once tried to play that game and it ended in 10 seconds |
| 21:42.06 | MoonEater916 | i think im retarded |
| 21:42.13 | MoonEater916 | i know what coming but i do it anyways |
| 21:42.14 | Zolden | 8 bit nes is full of great games |
| 21:43.34 | MoonEater916 | any good top down games you like? |
| 21:43.46 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a80/SC2%202013-11-14%2023-42-35-43.jpg |
| 21:44.57 | Zolden | MoonEater916 crap, i knew you knoe nothing! that thing was wrong |
| 21:45.11 | Zolden | group of (1, 2) != group of (1) |
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| 21:53.48 | DeadZergling | is okay Zolden, we aren't all good at all types of games |
| 22:04.59 | A1win | looking at trigger debugging, there aren't any functions that are using much run time... must be the fact that these are units that is sometimes causing performance issues |
| 22:05.34 | A1win | but I'd have to redo a huge amount of stuff if I replaced them with actors and custom data structures D: |
| 22:05.48 | A1win | using lots of behaviors and unit groups to track stuff |
| 22:06.02 | DeadZergling | should let death messages indicate how the person died |
| 22:06.14 | A1win | yeah I'll do that at some point |
| 22:06.22 | A1win | also should add levels to death messages |
| 22:07.02 | A1win | unless that makes them too long (basically six characters more in total) |
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| 22:09.27 | A1win | hmm why am I using a 256x256 gravity grid if my map is only 96x96 in size :P |
| 22:09.46 | DeadZergling | dark matter |
| 22:13.48 | Zolden | A1win those lag periods are completelely gone, you don't have to turn to actors, game works smooth |
| 22:14.10 | A1win | Zolden, yeah but we didn't have anyone with an older cpu here this time :x |
| 22:14.27 | Zolden | A1win because 1x1 square is big, and 0.15x0.15 is ok |
| 22:14.46 | Zolden | A1win we need goa :) |
| 22:14.50 | A1win | yeah but the 256x256 was for a 256x256 area |
| 22:14.53 | Zolden | G0A we need your cpu |
| 22:14.58 | A1win | 1x1 square is just fine for gravity |
| 22:15.11 | A1win | because I take a weighted average of 4 corners |
| 22:15.17 | A1win | depending on unit position within the square |
| 22:15.23 | Zolden | A1win in this case yea |
| 22:15.43 | A1win | anyway I made this support an offset for the gravity grid so now it's 96x96 |
| 22:16.03 | A1win | faster to calculate, but it already took less than 0.0625 seconds so it didn't really matter ;p |
| 22:17.29 | A1win | I hope this doesn't crash if something somehow gets off the map area :P |
| 22:17.30 | A1win | hmm |
| 22:17.40 | A1win | probably will unless I add a check |
| 22:18.54 | A1win | though I don't think anything can get out of it anyway |
| 22:18.57 | A1win | but just to be safe ;p |
| 22:20.59 | Zolden | yea, add check |
| 22:21.01 | A1win | hmm I was actually thinking of adding a 2nd ring around the wall so that projectiles can go further it |
| 22:21.17 | A1win | so that it can't be used as aoe-surface |
| 22:21.19 | Zolden | i always create a safe get grid coord function with checks |
| 22:21.31 | A1win | mm... |
| 22:21.42 | A1win | well I only use it in one place here |
| 22:22.17 | A1win | did you read my idea about two weapon modes? |
| 22:22.36 | Zolden | repeat pls |
| 22:23.07 | A1win | each weapon has two modes, one in mouse1 and one in mouse2, first mode is basically "single targetr" and second mode "aoe", but it varies per weapon |
| 22:23.32 | Zolden | interesting |
| 22:23.37 | A1win | like pewpew gun shoots projectiles to all directions with aoe mode |
| 22:23.39 | Zolden | since rightclick is free now |
| 22:23.47 | A1win | drone launcher too but has longer cooldown when using that mode |
| 22:23.49 | Zolden | i like this idea |
| 22:24.06 | A1win | firefly missiles has this as aoe mode and some 3-way spread as 1st mode |
| 22:24.08 | Zolden | in full games can be useful |
| 22:24.59 | A1win | mm and kind of gives more weapons but is easier to comprehend |
| 22:25.11 | A1win | instead of learning 8 different weapons, you learn 4 with 2 modes |
| 22:25.35 | A1win | and can use one key to switch two weapons at the same time |
| 22:25.42 | A1win | (in a sense) |
| 22:26.38 | A1win | it was nice how we thought that the firefly weapon was crappy until we realized that we can use the warp drive to get to close range quickly ;p |
| 22:27.04 | A1win | still not ideal but it had its use |
| 22:29.14 | Zolden | yea |
| 22:34.54 | G0A | Zolden A1win lets test it next map night:D |
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| 22:37.56 | Zolden | G0A ok |
| 22:38.03 | Zolden | we will also test my new map |
| 22:39.33 | G0A | k:D |
| 22:40.26 | A1win | mmh still need that name for this x\ |
| 22:40.29 | A1win | and concept art |
| 22:41.02 | A1win | could even base the name on the artstyle so kinda should figure that out first |
| 22:44.06 | DeadZergling | how about instead of painfully doing concept art |
| 22:44.19 | DeadZergling | you get the camera to get you a nice screenshot in first person view |
| 22:44.40 | DeadZergling | with some ships, projectiles, planets and space in the background, but none of the ugly border |
| 22:44.49 | A1win | what does that help? ;p |
| 22:45.04 | A1win | I need concept art to make those ships and planets first :P |
| 22:45.06 | DeadZergling | be a nice Load Screen |
| 22:45.28 | A1win | that's not what concept art is used for :x |
| 22:45.31 | DeadZergling | oh, not leaving them as blobs? |
| 22:45.36 | A1win | or not what it's meant for |
| 22:45.44 | A1win | well, some kind of blobs probably |
| 22:45.53 | A1win | but they don't really feel very coherent at the moment |
| 22:46.01 | DeadZergling | 1 word for you on planet looks |
| 22:46.03 | DeadZergling | Gradients |
| 22:46.31 | A1win | yea shadows are good too ;p |
| 22:46.56 | DeadZergling | shadows of what? No stars really close |
| 22:47.20 | DeadZergling | in fact, how do you see the planets period |
| 22:47.29 | A1win | the star is behind you ;o |
| 22:47.58 | A1win | like.. above |
| 22:47.59 | DeadZergling | seems less like a star and more like a big 60 W light bulb on top |
| 22:48.04 | A1win | ;p |
| 22:48.30 | DeadZergling | but then I say again, shadows of what |
| 22:48.38 | DeadZergling | top down light like that |
| 22:48.44 | DeadZergling | and ships/crates never over each other |
| 22:49.04 | DeadZergling | or the planets |
| 22:49.42 | A1win | yeah just meant like a little fade near the planet edges |
| 22:49.51 | A1win | spherical shadows |
| 22:50.30 | A1win | or I guess it's not really shadows but just different angles for the light |
| 22:50.31 | DeadZergling | I guess, but the way you describe your light star |
| 22:50.54 | DeadZergling | those edges don't even make sense |
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| 23:25.48 | Zolden | hmm, there's a chick on sc2 panel? |
| 23:35.01 | A1win | refactoring projectile creation, lots of copy-paste code there <.< |
| 23:35.17 | A1win | will make it easier to make the alternate fire modes |
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| 23:48.22 | A1win | yay it works :p |
| 23:53.22 | Zolden | the focused/spreaded versions? |
| 23:53.31 | A1win | mm |
| 23:54.46 | Zolden | good |
| 23:59.33 | A1win | if I have 1 weapon slot and 4 ability slots, stat bars will have to be kinda short or the UI won't fit on a 4:3 aspect ratio :P |
