| 01:06.21 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Behaviors / Buff - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/behaviors/buff/ |
| 01:22.56 | Ahli | booom, silent dialog button created |
| 01:23.07 | Ahli | UI editor powerful, UI editor smash |
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| 01:46.09 | Lajjla | Ahli, you blow. |
| 01:46.21 | Lajjla | Of course das mädchen und sein buch is the only correct form. |
| 01:46.39 | Ahli | lol, no |
| 01:46.41 | Lajjla | Yes it is |
| 01:46.46 | Ahli | The girl and his book? |
| 01:46.49 | Lajjla | Every single bit of literature on German tells you this |
| 01:46.51 | Lajjla | No, its book |
| 01:46.55 | Lajjla | sein means both his and its |
| 01:47.08 | Lajjla | Mädchen ist neutrum, schwein |
| 01:47.17 | Lajjla | http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M%C3%A4dchen#Usage_notes |
| 01:47.46 | Ahli | I wouldn't ever write it like that |
| 01:47.49 | Ahli | never |
| 01:48.25 | Lajjla | Ahli, you uneducated piece of slime, wiktionary is always right |
| 01:48.42 | Lajjla | In formal language you should always use es, sein, das, dem etc to refer to Mädchen |
| 01:49.16 | Lajjla | Ahli, das Weibliche ist dem Sachliche sein Tod. |
| 01:49.17 | Ahli | wiki, you cannot base anything of a wiki because every idiot can write something into a wiki |
| 01:49.35 | Lajjla | Every idiot can also say stuff on IRC |
| 01:49.44 | Lajjla | Anyway, like I said, google 'das mädchen und sein bruder' |
| 01:49.47 | Lajjla | THere are a lot of hits |
| 01:50.11 | Lajjla | "Doch das Mädchen und sein Bruder dürfen nirgendwo auf Dauer bleiben, sie wechseln von Pflegefamilie zu Pflegefamilie" |
| 01:51.40 | Lajjla | Ahli, how dare you defile the great German language with your wanton disrespect for grammatical gender? |
| 01:52.13 | Ahli | nobody taught me something like that, lol |
| 01:52.34 | Lajjla | Clearly you didn't go to school like NovaMB did |
| 01:52.41 | Lajjla | NovaMB is the true educated German |
| 01:52.45 | Ahli | I went to school, lol |
| 01:52.59 | Lajjla | You can't even scratch the feet of the very mountains atop novaMB stands |
| 01:53.19 | Ahli | in comparison to English, German at pre school was unstructured |
| 01:53.30 | Lajjla | Outrageous |
| 01:53.42 | Lajjla | resulting into uneducated pieces of slime such as yourself who do not obety the grammatical gender of mädchen |
| 01:54.00 | Lajjla | The great German language is defiled and corrupted before my very eyes. |
| 01:54.12 | Lajjla | Kaelten, what is your opinion on this? |
| 01:54.49 | Ahli | to be honest, I don't think a lot of people in Germany would actually use "sein" in that sentence... |
| 01:54.57 | Ahli | even if you seem to be correct |
| 01:55.44 | Lajjla | Corruption, defilment, sacrilidge. |
| 01:55.50 | Lajjla | Hersey. |
| 01:56.16 | Lajjla | Das Mädchen und sein muschi |
| 01:56.30 | Ahli | *seine |
| 01:56.37 | Lajjla | Seine |
| 01:56.38 | Lajjla | Whatever |
| 01:56.40 | Lajjla | I take it |
| 01:56.43 | Lajjla | I too defile the language |
| 01:57.01 | Ahli | just destroy German, way to complex for the world... English ftw |
| 01:57.27 | Lajjla | Ahli, did you know that in A1win's great language of Finnish, there is one word for he/she? |
| 01:57.47 | Lajjla | When Finnish people speak instead of write, they sometimes use he for women, it's amusing |
| 01:58.52 | Ahli | well, it's easier |
| 01:59.13 | Ahli | why do nouns even have a gender? |
| 02:00.30 | Lajjla | Ahli, do you really want to know/ Because I know the entire history |
| 02:00.34 | Lajjla | And how it evolved |
| 02:00.42 | Lajjla | It's actually fascinating |
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| 02:05.20 | Lajjla | DerSChnup, now |
| 02:05.23 | Lajjla | Ahli, is the culprit |
| 02:05.25 | DerSChnup | what now? |
| 02:05.26 | Lajjla | The uneducated one |
| 02:05.28 | Lajjla | the vile one |
| 02:05.33 | Lajjla | ]the corruptor of language and grammar,. |
| 02:05.37 | DerSChnup | lol |
| 02:05.38 | Ahli | <- |
| 02:05.39 | Lajjla | He or she shall be flamed this day |
| 02:05.42 | Lajjla | Proceed |
| 02:05.59 | Lajjla | Let justice fall this day, that the wicked be vanquished and the evil be perished. |
| 02:06.06 | Ahli | and be aware that nearly everything that is spoken is recorded by a robot being |
| 02:07.39 | DerSChnup | Ahli: are you a feminist? |
| 02:07.53 | DerSChnup | (just say yes and end this discussion) |
| 02:07.55 | Lajjla | DerSChnup, no, flame. |
| 02:08.04 | DerSChnup | sorry, i'm a virtual firefighter |
| 02:08.18 | Lajjla | Say 'You filthy piece of shit, surely the grammatical gender is to be obeyed absolutely, you idiot' |
| 02:10.01 | DerSChnup | Lajjla: you're neither male nor female, so why do you care? |
| 02:10.04 | DerSChnup | sexuality is fluid |
| 02:10.10 | Lajjla | DerSChnup, this is grammatical gender. |
| 02:10.23 | Lajjla | I am the biggest grammar nazi on the planet. |
| 02:12.04 | DerSChnup | Lajjla: you should make him wear the star of ungrammaticality then |
| 02:12.05 | DerSChnup | * |
| 02:12.07 | DerSChnup | or ** |
| 02:12.12 | DerSChnup | on one each arm |
| 02:12.32 | Lajjla | DerSChnup, yes |
| 02:12.33 | Lajjla | YES |
| 02:12.49 | DerSChnup | i see you are delighted with my suggestion |
| 02:12.51 | Lajjla | Endlösung der Grammatikfehlerfrage |
| 02:13.06 | DerSChnup | your german leaves etwas to be desired, Lajjla |
| 02:13.17 | Lajjla | My German is horribnle ahaha |
| 02:13.25 | Lajjla | But I do know it's Das Mädchen und sein Buch |
| 02:13.40 | DerSChnup | it could be some other female substantive's book |
| 02:15.36 | Lajjla | That is what it would unequivocably imply. |
| 02:15.42 | Lajjla | Ahli, filth |
| 02:15.44 | Lajjla | uneducated filth |
| 02:15.46 | Lajjla | DerSChnup, join me |
| 02:15.56 | Lajjla | We shall scour the earth of this filth and perversion |
| 02:17.16 | DerSChnup | no, books don't only belong to one person |
| 02:17.22 | DerSChnup | BOOKS ARE COMMON GOODS |
| 02:17.48 | DerSChnup | knowledge is to be shared! |
| 02:17.54 | DerSChnup | and not sequestered somewhere in a tower |
| 02:23.22 | Otixa | buttcrack. |
| 02:26.27 | DerSChnup | feels about in his buttcrack |
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| 02:28.43 | Otixa | i kil u wif fork |
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| 02:32.05 | Alevice | Hy everynyan |
| 02:33.19 | Alevice | An UI question |
| 02:33.31 | Alevice | Does anyone know if there is a way to make richer lists? |
| 02:33.39 | Alevice | As in having rich list items |
| 02:34.01 | Alevice | much like the list items for the mission archives and such |
| 02:34.11 | Alevice | which have pictures and shit |
| 02:34.23 | Alevice | faling that, maybe implementing a scrollbar over a panel? |
| 02:34.33 | Alevice | (a working scrollbar, of course) |
| 02:57.48 | Lajjla | DerSChnup, anyway |
| 02:57.55 | Lajjla | At least tell Ahli how wrong he or she is. |
| 02:58.13 | DerSChnup | okay |
| 02:58.28 | DerSChnup | Ahli: you are so wrong. so very wrong. |
| 02:58.43 | DerSChnup | erases Ahli from the big scheme of things |
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| 05:13.46 | kingTD | gutten morgen |
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| 07:52.01 | EntityEnigma | is there some way i can preview sound effects? |
| 07:53.57 | kingTD | yes |
| 07:54.12 | kingTD | everywhere there are button with and arrow of Play |
| 07:55.28 | kingTD | in the when clicking the file in Browse window, Import module, or making your way into Data Sounds tab and entering the sound assets that are assigned |
| 08:01.49 | EntityEnigma | when i go to object values for impact sound for my action actor for weapon there is no play button in browse window |
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| 08:20.33 | EntityEnigma | if i am using an action actor to change the sounds and animations of an attack do i need to enter values to both the impact model field in the impact map and the impact model field? |
| 08:21.26 | EntityEnigma | why is there an impact model field in the impact map as well as in the actor fields its self |
| 08:21.48 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/CYQiQ.jpg |
| 08:22.29 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 08:23.08 | EntityEnigma | what tab is that? |
| 08:24.43 | EntityEnigma | sound tab? |
| 08:25.19 | EntityEnigma | nvm i think i found it |
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| 09:25.43 | Stewox | hello |
| 09:26.13 | Stewox | looking for available map makers on whatever |
| 09:27.15 | Stewox | join here: http://planet.infowars.com/groups/projectbt-anti-nwo-starcraft2-custommap/ |
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| 10:36.34 | Zolden | in the future war between humans sand robots, thte robots with cute faces have more chances to kill more humans than the robots with scary faces |
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| 10:44.53 | Kueken1 | a well-known fact |
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| 11:50.32 | Zolden | added glassy death effects, sounds and visuals, now glass creeps feels so glassy |
| 11:50.46 | Zolden | overrglassed 'em |
| 11:58.05 | duckies | I lack imagination, spoli me with screenshot |
| 11:59.24 | Zolden | yea, it will sound good on screenshot |
| 11:59.41 | Zolden | also anims will look great in dynamics |
| 11:59.58 | Zolden | you definitely know what you are asking about |
| 12:00.13 | Zolden | the great Askman wouldn't ask better |
| 12:00.42 | duckies | sounds like something you could show off during MN, then we all would be impressesd how good your work is and acknowledge your will to mapmake |
| 12:01.47 | Zolden | yea, after a couple of exhausting weeks of 12 hours mapping per day (while you all happily and lightheartedly playing heartstone) I will probably upload a rough alpha version |
| 12:01.59 | kingTD | :d |
| 12:03.09 | duckies | I'll be sure to match my heartstone hour with your mapping schedule, must stay in sync! |
| 12:03.14 | duckies | *hours |
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| 12:33.54 | Bommes | Did you make the glass death as a ragdoll? |
| 12:33.58 | Bommes | that would be pretty cool :D |
| 12:36.29 | Zolden | it's just an explosion of glass particles |
| 12:36.57 | Zolden | but they bounce from the terrain |
| 12:37.42 | Bommes | just particles? no actual polygons involved? |
| 12:37.46 | Bommes | that makes me a little sad |
| 12:37.52 | Bommes | imagine how it would be if the unit actually shattered into glass pieces |
| 12:38.15 | Bommes | which are physics object and fly around and stuff |
| 12:39.30 | Bommes | or I guess you could use particles as physics objects since they are textured polygons I'd imagine? |
| 12:39.36 | Bommes | meant meshes |
| 12:51.12 | Zolden | particles are planes |
| 12:51.55 | Zolden | with normal and spec maps they look like 3d objects |
| 12:52.09 | Bommes | yeah I know, my rambling was just confused and made no sense |
| 12:52.12 | Bommes | just ignore it ^^ |
| 12:52.13 | Zolden | with displacement material they look like glass (refract) |
| 12:53.01 | Zolden | also, they can face travelling direction, not just be billboards |
| 12:53.36 | kingTD | well proper mesh that would look like glass additionally isnt a bad thing |
| 12:54.41 | Bommes | Yeah but I meant reacting to force actors, so they need an actual Physics Body around them. |
| 12:54.46 | Bommes | Can you do that for Particles? |
| 12:54.50 | Bommes | also what TD said. |
| 12:56.29 | Zolden | particles can react to forces if we define proper force channel, so they are kinda physics objects by default |
| 12:56.46 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/zG2uZ.jpg |
| 12:56.54 | Zolden | in this case they look like this |
| 12:57.13 | Zolden | kingTD I tried to attach meshes to particles in previous verion, and it bugged |
| 12:57.20 | Zolden | haven't tried it in the new version yet |
| 12:58.15 | Bommes | Hmm |
| 12:58.23 | kingTD | where is blue color? |
| 12:58.29 | kingTD | invisible particles... |
| 12:58.35 | Bommes | would it be a lot of work then to make a smoke effect that reacts to Physics Forces? Just for experimentation purposes |
| 12:58.52 | kingTD | dont make it look real, make it look understandable gameplay wise |
| 12:59.02 | Bommes | Like the SmokeMedium.m3 model or whatever it is called |
| 12:59.03 | Zolden | they are a bit greenish, and perfectly fit the color of the glass models they play death for |
| 12:59.39 | Zolden | kingTD what a wise advice, you just getting smarter every hour |
| 13:00.41 | kingTD | awwww. that discrimination comes into play! |
| 13:04.18 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/773/glass_death.gif |
| 13:07.47 | kingTD | cool shit you have there :O |
| 13:11.49 | Ahli | oh god, I'm trying to create a monster AI |
| 13:12.45 | kingTD | like god? |
| 13:12.55 | kingTD | THAT MONSTER! |
| 13:15.21 | duckies | a mnoster ai or ai for a monster? >.> |
| 13:17.51 | Dustin | I think he means Awesome or Beastly AI for melee |
| 13:18.26 | Ahli | I mean an AI for my diablo monsters |
| 13:18.37 | Dustin | but i've been wrong exactly 2 times before, so anything is possible. |
| 13:18.41 | Ahli | so they can do more than running straight towards the closest target |
| 13:18.47 | Dustin | nice! |
| 13:18.55 | Dustin | Using A* for pathfinding? |
| 13:19.27 | Ahli | the game has pathfinding, I try not to code that myself |
| 13:19.39 | duckies | so you're giving them more than default pathing + autocast abils? |
| 13:19.52 | Dustin | Eh, i guess it barely qualifies as pathfinding... |
| 13:20.04 | Ahli | that's the goal, duckies |
| 13:20.13 | Bommes | Zolden: Posted a model I need into the Modelling event thread |
| 13:24.33 | Zolden | Bommes I think Otixa will be making something during the whowle stream, but then I will record how I make some models and post it afterwards |
| 13:24.57 | duckies | Eh, lately I've been distatisfied with an issue, if you have 4+ melee enemies in a room, and you get their attention so that they follow you and after that just run in circles, they keep on following you with their smooth pathfinding and it begins to just look stupid after a while |
| 13:25.07 | Zolden | Ahli waht do you wnat them to do? dodge missiles by walking a step away? |
| 13:25.22 | duckies | enter room - > lure all enemies, cast aoe, kite, cast aoe |
| 13:25.49 | Ahli | I will see what I can do with it... atm it's just exploring if that is realizable or if it will lag the game to death |
| 13:26.01 | duckies | I haven't figured out how to give them more intelligence and coordination T_T |
| 13:27.10 | Ahli | atm I try the approach of D1's AI... cycling through all active monsters and checking their status and surrounding |
| 13:27.22 | Zolden | Ahli just trigger triggers with data events, and make them happen not too frequently |
| 13:27.40 | Ahli | that's what I did before |
| 13:27.52 | Zolden | Ahli cycling may cause lag, while data happens rarely |
| 13:28.42 | Bommes | How about giving each single monster a Thread with a loop that does it's actions every 0.5-1s or so to check the status and surroundings? |
| 13:28.48 | Ahli | ok, right now all monsters walk towards 0,0 :X |
| 13:28.51 | Bommes | and the loop only ends when the monster dies |
| 13:28.56 | Bommes | that's why I do for my map at least |
| 13:29.02 | Zolden | Ahli good job |
| 13:29.22 | Bommes | and it runs pretty smoothly even with like 100 such threads and also my main game loop that runs every 0.0625 with a whole bunch of actions |
| 13:29.35 | Bommes | *what |
| 13:29.37 | Zolden | fuck threads |
| 13:29.43 | Bommes | ? why |
| 13:29.46 | Zolden | nothing should be runned when ai is not needed |
| 13:30.06 | Bommes | What do you mean, when it is not needed? |
| 13:30.06 | Zolden | Attack in a queue validator should enable a behavior with periodic dummy event |
| 13:30.14 | Bommes | when it's not needed there is no monster, so no thread |
| 13:30.28 | Zolden | so, only units that aquired a target will run triggers |
| 13:30.50 | Bommes | but acquiring targets should be part of the AI I wuold assume? |
| 13:31.22 | Bommes | like monsters calling for help or not, playing with acquiring target through vision, blocking pathways and monsters reacting to that etc |
| 13:31.28 | Zolden | aquiring target only enables a behavior, that runs ai trigger |
| 13:31.54 | Zolden | monster calling for help is cute |
| 13:32.59 | Zolden | "hey, buddy, what's wrong? omg, you're wounded! who did it to you! cmon, let's go to the doctor! cmon, you can make it" - said a skeleton to a zombie |
| 13:34.58 | Bommes | you know, I personally don't RPG out every single action that happens in the Diablo AI behavior. |
| 13:35.12 | Ahli | zolden, that's how my archer units work. but they dance around because they have no line of sight to any target around them |
| 13:35.18 | Bommes | But whatever floats your boat I guess. |
| 13:40.41 | duckies | Hm, in rpgs do melee monsters ust lock up and follow you? |
| 13:41.27 | Bommes | depends on the rpg |
| 13:41.39 | Kueken | nah, they write an elaborate essay on following tactics |
| 13:42.00 | duckies | can you give me some examples when that doesn't happen bommes?:D |
| 13:42.01 | Kueken | then run it by a comittee of 12 select representatives of common enemies |
| 13:42.18 | Kueken | and then have to await approval by the final boss |
| 13:42.19 | duckies | you're playing some awesome games kueken :D |
| 13:42.37 | Zolden | Ahli if he has no target, the validator should disable the behavior |
| 13:42.52 | Zolden | it's "order in queue" with attack abil |
| 13:43.14 | Kueken | duckies: in a more serious matter, aggro systems are a thing |
| 13:43.48 | Kueken | or are you speaking purely of single player unit vs monster |
| 13:44.20 | Bommes | duckies: The easiest example would be to not have a constant movement speed for the chasing melee monster but one that works in intervals |
| 13:44.43 | Bommes | Like think how Zombies work for example, the would lurk towards you for a second, then stop and tumble, move forward again |
| 13:44.45 | Kueken | maybe I am not understanding the context here |
| 13:45.12 | Bommes | that would break up stupid looking "running in a circle" patterns automatically |
| 13:45.44 | Bommes | other ways are to interrupt the attack order by something happening around them, like when you kill one monster all the other flee randomly in all directions |
| 13:45.48 | Kueken | or stuff like alternate between running up to you, taunting, calling for help, running away |
| 13:45.57 | Bommes | or you give them abilities that break the attack move pattern |
| 13:46.00 | Kueken | depends on the kind of enemy though |
| 13:46.14 | Kueken | zombies running away might not be very suiting |
| 13:46.20 | Bommes | yeah |
| 13:46.35 | Ahli | my fallen ones already run away when one of their kind dies |
| 13:46.55 | Kueken | but for more intelligent monsters, you could evem make them attempt to attack in patterns or formations, protect vulnerable ranged units |
| 13:46.58 | Ahli | at least they have the chance to become feared running around in random directions |
| 13:47.23 | duckies | thanks, yea, right now it's more of a 1vs11 enemies scenario |
| 13:47.25 | Ahli | atm I just try how I could implement something. One goal would be that they don't run in straight lines towards you |
| 13:47.49 | Kueken | or give them abilities to quickly close up on you |
| 13:48.29 | duckies | movement speed change is a good advice, though not suited for my basick melee enemy |
| 13:48.55 | Bommes | Ahli: For my Zerglings I played around with different Lateral Acceleration/Movement speed combinations and that actually works pretty well to interrupt the straight line pattern :) But probably just because they are pretty fast in the first place, probably doesn't work as well for slower units |
| 13:49.19 | Kueken | or make them interact with each other, thats always cool |
| 13:49.25 | Kueken | like one throws another at you |
| 13:49.46 | duckies | I wonder if I can make them spread in in line, so that insteat of bobbling up they spread in order to cut room in half, preventing you from running around them and then slowly close in |
| 13:50.22 | Bommes | duckies: I also think you don't necessarily need something to break up that pattern for each type of monster, if you have like 2 or 3 different melee unit types that you are fighting against in one area I think it's okay if just one of them has special movement or attack patterns |
| 13:51.06 | duckies | I've been thinking about brawlers, where you have 2-3 enemies attacking you and others circling around waiting for their turn, though again, not sure how right it would feel to auto-prevent player from being swarmed |
| 13:52.02 | Bommes | similar to the combat in the Batman games? :D where the enemies take turns |
| 13:52.18 | duckies | yea, I know bommes, but for now I usually just have 1 melee type and 1 ranged type |
| 13:52.38 | duckies | uh oh, don't hurt me, I haven't played recent batman games ._. |
| 13:52.56 | Bommes | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgRhvjDaQbs |
| 13:53.05 | Bommes | I haven't either, just seen them |
| 13:53.48 | Bommes | basically as far as I understand it the enemies usually attack with 1-4 at a time and they do close in if you aren't moving enough, but they don't immediately try to swarm you all at once |
| 13:54.03 | Bommes | only the closest ones really come at you fast |
| 13:55.03 | Bommes | but I heard it's a really fun combat system for a brawler, probably hard to implement/convert it to a more RPG style thing, especially in the SC2 Editor |
| 13:55.15 | Ahli | what do I need to change to make units not automatically attack units next to them? |
| 13:55.35 | Ahli | I still want attack move to work fine, though |
| 13:55.41 | Bommes | I think it's in the Weapon tab, "Scan something"? |
| 13:56.00 | duckies | hm, yea, that doesn't look fitting for me, since my hero guy won't be lightning fast |
| 13:56.11 | duckies | but that did help me to define what I need |
| 13:56.11 | Ahli | min scan range, yes, but that is only the range that they scan |
| 13:56.18 | Ahli | not that they scan when idling |
| 13:56.24 | Ahli | I think it's in the unit |
| 13:56.30 | Ahli | workers don't auto attack, for example |
| 13:56.57 | Ahli | default acquire level |
| 13:57.07 | duckies | "Prevent units from bobbling up so that AOE + Kiting isn't super effective against them" - is what I need D= |
| 13:57.57 | duckies | kinda like increasing their radius just for themselfes, yet allow them to get close if they're swarming hero from all sides |
| 13:58.14 | Kueken | Ahli: default acquire behavior -> none and response -> no response |
| 13:58.17 | Kueken | in the unit |
| 13:58.44 | Kueken | ah, you got that already nvm |
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| 14:01.32 | duckies | eh, it feels like I'd need custom pathing for any sort of intelligent approach from monsters and that would probably drain me lifeless >.> |
| 14:01.36 | duckies | sighs |
| 14:04.27 | Zolden | just spam move oreders ain a queue! |
| 14:05.18 | Zolden | puts duckies in a box full of issue order actions |
| 14:06.14 | duckies | uses stop command and watches all move queues collapse |
| 14:06.52 | Zolden | some simple polar offsets would do the thing |
| 14:07.46 | duckies | I'd still need to calculate exactly where to move to not clump up with your allies that follow + recalculate folowing every half second for readjustements in movements of hero/other persuers |
| 14:09.20 | duckies | it would be like ->get all room objects in array ->calculate A* nodes to move to based on all objects present ->issue orders |
| 14:10.06 | duckies | hm, it doesn't sound that bad actually.. add some buff behaviors that break move if enemy gets close and .. |
| 14:10.23 | duckies | hmss |
| 14:11.06 | duckies | but I still need a bazillion other things to do ;/ |
| 14:11.27 | Zolden | A* and other gay calculative algorithms is just a manifesto of stupidness and ignorance of the previos generatioans of programmers! youse the fucking real world thinking, imitate forces, interactions between the objects, let them self-organise, then just use the new aquired coordinates as move targets |
| 14:12.36 | duckies | zolden, I'm a duck, not a jademus to do this kind of siht! |
| 14:12.37 | Zolden | gives a bone beak of the extinct anacient hyperduck to duckies as a thing to do |
| 14:13.20 | duckies | thanks zolden |
| 14:19.13 | duckies | oh, I think I've got it, a less soul-crushing way to do cool things, fluck yea life is awesome! =D |
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| 14:38.06 | Ahli | so, now monsters walk towards you, stop when they don't see you anymore and attack when there is a target directly next to them |
| 14:38.35 | Ahli | k, now support for last seen position |
| 14:38.42 | Ahli | so they try to look for you |
| 14:39.06 | Dustin|Work | nice! |
| 14:39.39 | Ahli | it's actually very simple so far |
| 14:40.07 | Ahli | since I've my vision line function and the game can calculate the pathing distance around the walls |
| 14:40.11 | Dustin|Work | AI is pretty fun to make |
| 14:47.37 | duckies | quit Made and AI and it turned off my PC D= |
| 14:51.11 | Bommes | Ahli: Did you make the vision line thing yourself or is there an existing function for that? |
| 14:51.50 | Ahli | I made it myself, but Blizzard added a function that can check if a player has vision of a point... |
| 14:51.57 | Ahli | but I need unit vision and that doesn't exist ^^ |
| 14:52.13 | Bommes | yeah I'd need unit vision as well |
| 14:52.14 | Bommes | kk |
| 14:52.38 | Ahli | so I'm checking the units in a line to see if there are vision blockers like walls or other high doodads that are considered to block vision |
| 14:53.11 | Ahli | ok, my unit stopped in the doorway because it lost track of me there ;) |
| 14:53.26 | Bommes | http://www.blizzpro.com/blog/2013/10/31/download-90s-era-classic-blackthorne-for-free/ !! |
| 14:54.46 | Ahli | isn't appearing on my account atm |
| 14:55.28 | Ahli | did they give it out for free because nobody knows it and they've used it in heroes? |
| 14:56.04 | Bommes | did you click on the games tab? |
| 14:56.23 | Bommes | it's not in the main tab on the account, but it should show when you go on download game clients or whatever the menu button is |
| 14:57.20 | Ahli | yes |
| 14:57.41 | Ahli | classic games is just sc1 :S |
| 14:58.12 | Bommes | dunno, does show for me |
| 14:58.56 | Ahli | did you log in into the NA or EU page? |
| 14:59.02 | Bommes | eu |
| 14:59.09 | Bommes | nvm, us |
| 14:59.31 | Ahli | there it is |
| 14:59.36 | Bommes | thought it was eu since all the text is in german |
| 15:00.47 | Bommes | I wonder how many ppl are working on the Battle.net Client... |
| 15:01.24 | Bommes | the progress of it seems so slow, there's still no chat, no way to include classic games, no way to start the editor from it |
| 15:01.37 | Ahli | bnet is done by their internal tool writing team... |
| 15:03.35 | Ahli | lol, I'm hiding from monsters by walking behind pillars ;D |
| 15:06.49 | Lajjla | Kueken, |
| 15:06.56 | Lajjla | I am having a disagreement with Ahli |
| 15:07.04 | Lajjla | About 'das mädchen und sein buch' |
| 15:07.08 | Lajjla | I claim it should be sein |
| 15:07.14 | Lajjla | Ahli claims it should be ihr. |
| 15:07.27 | Lajjla | Even though every German on TL has already said that Ahli's brain is basially nonexistent for thinking that |
| 15:07.31 | Lajjla | But I would like from you |
| 15:07.42 | Lajjla | To also inform Ahli of said's stupidity |
| 15:07.47 | Bommes | "sein" is correct, but sounds like shit |
| 15:07.53 | Lajjla | And announce that it should clearly be sein buch |
| 15:07.55 | Bommes | if it's written use sein, otherwise use ihr |
| 15:07.56 | Lajjla | Bommes, it sounds |
| 15:08.00 | Lajjla | Magnificent |
| 15:08.06 | Ahli | lajjla, I was wrong |
| 15:08.08 | Lajjla | Grammatical gender shall absolutely be obeyed. |
| 15:08.15 | Lajjla | Ahli, no, don't admit it yet |
| 15:08.22 | Lajjla | Let me savour the moment of rubbing it in a little bit more. |
| 15:08.26 | Ahli | Lajjla: but I was wrong and you were correct |
| 15:08.52 | Lajjla | Ahli, yes, but if you adit it I can't keep bringing it up and continue to rub it in |
| 15:10.17 | Bommes | grammatical gender is neglectible if it leads to confusion in day to day spoken conversation |
| 15:11.08 | Lajjla | THis cannot be |
| 15:11.09 | Bommes | hence all the different dialects that develop within regional communities based on preferation on how to use the language as a tool |
| 15:11.11 | Lajjla | Corruption of the language. |
| 15:11.24 | Lajjla | People should be executed for not using grammatical gender properly. |
| 15:11.44 | Lajjla | Das weibliche ist dem sachliche sein tod. |
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| 15:19.48 | Ahli | also, many people use words that don't exist like "einzigster" (comparative degree of unique... nothing can be more unique ^^) |
| 15:21.16 | Lajjla | Oh my god, you hav that in Dutch too |
| 15:21.19 | Lajjla | but the suplerative. |
| 15:21.29 | Lajjla | enigste |
| 15:21.31 | Lajjla | instead of enige |
| 15:21.42 | Lajjla | Ahli, they should die. |
| 15:22.10 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Projects / File Statuses - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/projects/file-statuses/ |
| 15:25.31 | Deaod | theres a book in germany called "Der Dativ ist dem Genitiv sein Tod" |
| 15:29.44 | Lajjla | Deaod, yeah I know |
| 15:29.46 | Lajjla | I was paraphrasing it |
| 15:30.19 | Deaod | the title already illustrates how german is being abused. |
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| 15:47.56 | Lajjla | Deaod, that's not a grammatical error though |
| 15:47.58 | Lajjla | just a stylistic one |
| 15:50.27 | Otixa | Anyone here happen to be a doctor? ;p |
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| 16:00.25 | Zolden | doctor and nerd are incompartible states |
| 16:01.07 | Zolden | like moll and swallow |
| 16:05.59 | Otixa | doctors are nerds too ;P |
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| 16:14.34 | Zolden | ok, i should have used "geek" term instead of "nerd" |
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| 16:32.03 | EmperorZolden | can we yet have more then 4 resources? |
| 16:32.11 | EmperorZolden | *than |
| 16:32.14 | A1win | nope |
| 16:32.24 | EmperorZolden | ok, i'll use upgrades ;/ |
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| 16:32.31 | EmperorZolden | it's humiliating |
| 16:37.39 | Otixa | postponing the show till next week btw ;p |
| 16:38.13 | EmperorZolden | Otixa why? |
| 16:38.20 | EmperorZolden | next week is blizzcon |
| 16:38.25 | Otixa | Because we haven't prepared |
| 16:38.32 | Otixa | And we haven't announced a time |
| 16:38.46 | Otixa | And I have no idea what I'm gonna make |
| 16:38.54 | EmperorZolden | no one named any time, we can pick any |
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| 16:39.10 | Otixa | What, pick any time between now and 4 hours from now? ;p |
| 16:39.13 | EmperorZolden | how about a spaceship? |
| 16:39.27 | Otixa | That'd take too long for a stream |
| 16:39.33 | Otixa | Unless you want it to look like ass |
| 16:39.42 | EmperorZolden | between now and four hours from now, but in tomorrow |
| 16:39.50 | Otixa | oh right |
| 16:39.54 | Otixa | It's friday |
| 16:39.58 | EmperorZolden | yes |
| 16:40.03 | Otixa | I'm 1 day off for some reason |
| 16:40.08 | Otixa | Prolly due to scotch ;p |
| 16:40.22 | Otixa | Eh, we'll see |
| 16:40.32 | Otixa | Was thinking of maybe making a few environment pieces |
| 16:40.36 | EmperorZolden | you can create a not too huge, maybe a bit simplified, cartoonish ship |
| 16:40.40 | Otixa | Walls, pillars etc |
| 16:41.02 | EmperorZolden | make a diablo1 hell wall |
| 16:41.07 | Otixa | a what now? |
| 16:41.21 | Zolden | have you ever played diablo1? |
| 16:41.41 | Otixa | yeah, like 10 years ago |
| 16:42.29 | Zolden | it hsould be something to not spend 1/2 of time in Zbrush |
| 16:42.36 | Otixa | http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-G7RD8bdm69M/UXLVnAsB4XI/AAAAAAAAB8M/d6LIzMvELdc/s1600/diablo-hell.jpg |
| 16:42.39 | Otixa | You mean this shit? |
| 16:42.51 | Zolden | yes, this shit |
| 16:43.01 | Otixa | could do, I guess |
| 16:43.12 | Zolden | good |
| 16:43.20 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/hellWallAhliPainting.zip |
| 16:43.22 | Otixa | Might have to prepare some shit in advance |
| 16:43.23 | Zolden | Ahli would immediately use it |
| 16:43.24 | Otixa | Will see |
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| 16:44.00 | Otixa | Ahli would immediately use anything ;P |
| 16:44.07 | Ahli | :D |
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| 16:44.40 | Otixa | Eh, I'll do some tests to determine if it can be done wuickly |
| 16:44.53 | Otixa | Also, Zolden, you're responsible for importing this shit into SC2 |
| 16:44.59 | Otixa | And setting up the materials etc |
| 16:45.16 | Otixa | I'll just do the highpoly,lowpoly,uvs,baking and texturing |
| 16:45.20 | Otixa | And preview in Marmoset |
| 16:45.53 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:46.10 | Zolden | it will be more than enough |
| 16:46.35 | Otixa | Eh, fine, I'll try to make a quick blockout later |
| 16:46.56 | Otixa | Tho, postponing the show might be better |
| 16:47.03 | Otixa | So we get more people to watch |
| 16:47.21 | Zolden | ok, as you wish, there is no haste |
| 16:47.21 | Otixa | Doing a 2-3 hour stream for like 5 people isn't exactly the most efficient way to do it ;p |
| 16:47.46 | Zolden | people will be able to watch it afterwards |
| 16:47.53 | Otixa | Yeah, but still |
| 16:47.57 | Zolden | and most of the viewvers do it like that |
| 16:48.08 | Otixa | Should get JademusSreg to smack an announcement post on the front page |
| 16:48.15 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:48.23 | Zolden | we need MASSES to watch |
| 16:48.41 | Ahli | I can't find your thread |
| 16:48.43 | Zolden | maybe even the unbelievable 8 peoples!!! |
| 16:48.51 | Otixa | :P |
| 16:49.01 | Otixa | Ahli http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/58972-modelling-event/#p18 |
| 16:49.01 | Ahli | there it is |
| 16:50.12 | Otixa | iunno |
| 16:50.17 | Otixa | Ahli, what do you suggest? |
| 16:50.43 | Ahli | suggest? what can I suggest? |
| 16:50.54 | Otixa | What should I model, and when should the show be? |
| 16:51.06 | Otixa | Keep in mind that it needs to be at a convenient time for both EU and NA |
| 16:51.31 | Otixa | So I was thinking like around 19-21 GMT |
| 16:51.47 | Zolden | which one should I change to "gold" to see it changed in game everywhere, but to not fuck anything? http://i.snag.gy/PX9fm.jpg |
| 16:52.01 | Ahli | I'm really the wrong person to ask for convenient times |
| 16:52.22 | Otixa | Fine, what should I make then? |
| 16:52.32 | Otixa | Walls might take too long, need a backup plan ;p |
| 16:53.12 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/pedestalOfBlood.png ? ;D |
| 16:53.26 | Otixa | groans |
| 16:53.37 | Otixa | Your design is boring ;p |
| 16:53.47 | Ahli | make better, must work |
| 16:54.02 | Ahli | else, dunno, impaled body parts, lol |
| 16:54.04 | Otixa | scratches his chin |
| 16:54.14 | Otixa | That'd deffinately take too long |
| 16:54.22 | Otixa | Could do the pedestal, I guess |
| 16:54.46 | Otixa | Should prolly try to make whatever in advance, to not fuck up on the stream and have to redo like half of it |
| 16:54.49 | Otixa | >> |
| 16:54.58 | Otixa | Also, TV magic |
| 16:55.05 | Otixa | Get to show what we're making before we make it :D |
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| 17:03.56 | Ahli | lol, chicken dinner achievement: 300 gold for 100 won games in hearthstone |
| 17:04.40 | Otixa | lol |
| 17:07.03 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qxl8XUs2obA |
| 17:08.09 | Lajjla | Deaod, insult Ahli |
| 17:08.32 | Deaod | why would i? |
| 17:08.36 | Zolden | kingTD wtf is this? is it from the new episode? |
| 17:08.48 | Zolden | not insult, discriminate |
| 17:09.17 | Deaod | again, why would i? |
| 17:09.50 | kingTD | its a game |
| 17:09.53 | Zolden | because you can't attend bad manners school without making projects |
| 17:10.01 | kingTD | 2-3 min starts gameplay |
| 17:10.03 | Zolden | kingTD where are the clicks then? |
| 17:12.03 | Lajjla | Deaod,beause Ahli defiles the fine German language |
| 17:12.34 | Deaod | then i would be constantly screaming obscenities at everyone around me, and myself ... |
| 17:20.42 | Zolden | what are "credits" and "research points" of player? |
| 17:26.09 | Zolden | we can set them with a trigger, but can't use as a cost in data :/ |
| 17:29.12 | ducks | isn't that campaign stuff? |
| 17:29.29 | ducks | probably some integers stored in a bank |
| 17:29.42 | ducks | and a handy way to get them through gui :/ |
| 17:43.58 | kingTD | so Map Night inc? |
| 17:44.24 | Zolden | mapmake night |
| 17:46.04 | kingTD | for you Zolden its every night |
| 17:46.19 | kingTD | what a shitty tea |
| 17:47.59 | Zolden | what a titty shee |
| 17:49.21 | Zolden | kingTD 3/36 creeps and 4/56 towers are balanced |
| 17:49.26 | Zolden | can you believe it? |
| 17:55.08 | Zolden | are resources like minerals - fixed type? will a player recieve 3 if I add 1.5 and then 1.5 again? |
| 17:55.47 | Ahli | I don't think so, but you could try it |
| 17:56.00 | A1win | I'm pretty sure they are integers |
| 17:56.10 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 17:56.13 | Zolden | ok |
| 17:56.20 | A1win | because the player property function in triggers is integer |
| 17:56.25 | Zolden | yea |
| 17:56.26 | A1win | unless I remember wrong |
| 17:56.30 | Zolden | it is |
| 17:56.34 | Lajjla | tyttö ja hänen kirjansa |
| 17:56.58 | Ahli | parameter dropdown, I hate you |
| 18:03.48 | Lajjla | Ahlichen und sein Buch |
| 18:08.54 | kingTD | ok go for EU map night! |
| 18:09.00 | kingTD | got my vodka! |
| 18:14.07 | ducks | hey G0A, get over here! |
| 18:16.57 | Zolden | i would like to join a game we never or rare played |
| 18:17.31 | Zolden | kingTD did you fix oldarium? |
| 18:17.55 | kingTD | yes now it should work. |
| 18:18.30 | Zolden | ducks I found someone's "ie" under the carpet, don't you know whos is it? |
| 18:18.45 | Zolden | kingTD ew, smoke weed instead! |
| 18:18.56 | ducks | ooh |
| 18:19.12 | ducks | picks up "ie" |
| 18:19.17 | kingTD | pfff its not publicly accessable so i wont do that since dont have source for that |
| 18:19.28 | ducks | has accquierd new suffix! |
| 18:19.32 | ducks | nick duckie |
| 18:19.43 | ducks | this feels wierd |
| 18:19.52 | ducks | no wonder, I messed it up :D |
| 18:20.04 | ducksie | hm |
| 18:20.13 | ducksie | doesn't feel right at all |
| 18:20.38 | ieieie | ;| |
| 18:20.48 | Zolden | try "buckies" |
| 18:26.22 | Zolden | A1win maybe go play your gravity map on map night? |
| 18:27.51 | A1win | mmh |
| 18:31.22 | A1win | I guess I could go for a quick test |
| 18:31.37 | Zolden | yea, let's do it |
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| 19:29.03 | mapnighties | nooblark |
| 19:29.08 | mapnighties | you here |
| 19:29.44 | mapnighties | if you're the noobinabox, we're starting bomber and you've got 30 sec to join |
| 19:29.49 | mapnighties | otherwise ignore this :D |
| 19:30.17 | mapnighties | aand we started :D |
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| 19:37.48 | DeadZergling | So decided to goof around on my project for awhile last night, proceeded to get my ass kicked, pretty bad, lol |
| 19:37.57 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 19:38.41 | DeadZergling | may have went just a little too far on the monster agro range |
| 19:40.58 | DeadZergling | oh well, what you been up to Jade? |
| 19:41.10 | EntityEnigma | why are there 2 places to set impact sound in action actors? |
| 19:41.13 | EntityEnigma | 1 in impact map |
| 19:41.21 | EntityEnigma | and 1 as impact sound |
| 19:41.24 | EntityEnigma | field |
| 19:42.49 | Bommes | ? Impact Map is dependent on what kind of Material the actor is impacting on |
| 19:43.06 | Bommes | *dependant (?) |
| 19:43.47 | EntityEnigma | oh wait the impact sound field is an actor? |
| 19:44.12 | EntityEnigma | setting an actor in an actor? |
| 19:44.20 | JademusSreg | Stuff. |
| 19:44.28 | EntityEnigma | wuuuuut |
| 19:44.50 | EntityEnigma | lol sooo confusing |
| 19:45.15 | JademusSreg | @ Deadz: SC2 stuff, Minecraft stuff, résumé stuff. |
| 19:45.39 | Bommes | usually in these kind of actors you can set a model or sound file directly, but it still has an actor that basically gives them a platform and describes to them what animations to play etc. |
| 19:46.44 | Bommes | Impact Sound would be the actor that "holds" the sound file specified within the impact map for example |
| 19:48.09 | JademusSreg | Ent, sounds are also regulated by actors, yes, often generic actors that take on the properties given to them by others. Such as how an action actor has model fields for launch and impact which are in turn given to model actors attached via the site fields. |
| 19:50.26 | DeadZergling | last one sounds a bit less fun |
| 19:50.38 | DeadZergling | I hate resume stuff |
| 19:54.07 | Triceron | ooh, new blizz trademark |
| 19:54.13 | Triceron | 'Warlords of Draenor' |
| 19:54.23 | JademusSreg | I have fun with it, as is my inclination. Obscene placeholders, absurd jokes, and so forth, refined with each draft. |
| 19:54.36 | JademusSreg | Tri, must be a hearth expansion. |
| 19:54.45 | JademusSreg | Or, haha, WoW. |
| 19:55.19 | JademusSreg | I expect the former, though. |
| 19:55.51 | Triceron | yeah my first thought was Hearthstone too |
| 19:56.35 | Triceron | but isn't hearthstone still in beta? |
| 20:00.39 | Triceron | Otixa |
| 20:00.44 | Triceron | Otixa |
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| 20:02.40 | Otixa | go away busy with serious business |
| 20:03.00 | DeadZergling | hello Thunder |
| 20:03.01 | Triceron | cavity map, how |
| 20:03.35 | Triceron | I'm lacking cheap and easy highlights |
| 20:03.38 | Zolden | someone mentioned cavity map? |
| 20:04.22 | Triceron | what method you use to make cavity maps? |
| 20:04.34 | DeadZergling | Sorry, what is a cavity map? |
| 20:04.41 | Zolden | i let xnormals generate them for me |
| 20:05.34 | Zolden | DeadZergling it's a texture based on edges i guess |
| 20:05.34 | Triceron | hrm, gotta use xnormals again I guess |
| 20:05.40 | EntityEnigma | hmm |
| 20:05.54 | DeadZergling | Ah, thought it maybe meant a map that became more painful the more you worked on it. |
| 20:06.26 | Zolden | Triceron then in PS I do "find edges" and invert |
| 20:06.26 | Zolden | and apply it in screen mode with 15-20 % |
| 20:06.49 | Zolden | DeadZergling it hapens to most maps |
| 20:07.30 | Triceron | you use dodge before? |
| 20:07.42 | Triceron | dodge adds sharper color |
| 20:07.46 | Triceron | screen is just white |
| 20:07.52 | Zolden | i'll try |
| 20:07.57 | Triceron | gotta be careful with dodge though |
| 20:08.15 | Triceron | it takes in color information, so you might be able to colorize the cavity map |
| 20:08.25 | Zolden | i sue different modes, for example, multiply for AO map generated by nDo |
| 20:08.29 | Triceron | but dodge also overblows the highlights sometimes |
| 20:08.31 | Zolden | but it all only experiments for me |
| 20:08.53 | Otixa | Triceron, xnormals can generate cavity maps |
| 20:08.55 | Otixa | otherwise |
| 20:08.58 | Otixa | take your ao |
| 20:09.06 | Otixa | run through find edges filter and invert |
| 20:09.18 | Triceron | ooh, I did that wrong then |
| 20:09.25 | Triceron | I was doing it to my lightmap |
| 20:09.30 | Zolden | nDo can convert normal to cavity, and it look different from the xnormals generated one |
| 20:09.59 | Zolden | so i usually use 2 cavity maps and 2 AO's |
| 20:10.11 | Zolden | and mix what i got from them |
| 20:14.38 | G0A | Zolden Pcitionary?:D |
| 20:14.48 | Zolden | G0A yea! |
| 20:14.49 | Zolden | coming |
| 20:15.04 | Zolden | crap, will i ever complete that trigger |
| 20:15.24 | Triceron | huh, looks weird on my color map |
| 20:15.30 | DeadZergling | like asking if I will ever complete my project enough to release publicly, lol |
| 20:15.41 | Triceron | seems to look best when I tweak the levels and use it on softlight |
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| 20:55.35 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 20:58.53 | Zolden | guys, will this destroy text tag after duration ends? Text Tag - Set Duration time for (Last created text tag) to 4.0 seconds |
| 20:59.39 | kingTD | it sgoydkl |
| 20:59.39 | kingTD | ad |
| 20:59.39 | kingTD | ada |
| 20:59.40 | kingTD | d |
| 20:59.40 | kingTD | a |
| 20:59.40 | kingTD | agla |
| 20:59.41 | kingTD | g |
| 20:59.41 | kingTD | alg |
| 20:59.41 | kingTD | a |
| 20:59.41 | kingTD | ga |
| 20:59.48 | MoonEater | duno |
| 20:59.52 | MoonEater | just use destroy |
| 21:00.21 | MoonEater | Zolden what desktop recording software do u use? |
| 21:00.37 | kingTD | camtasia or fraps |
| 21:01.04 | MoonEater | none of those r free? |
| 21:02.03 | kingTD | camtasia free (i think) |
| 21:02.16 | kingTD | but its only for recording desktop |
| 21:02.18 | kingTD | not games |
| 21:02.52 | kingTD | you know what to do! Google it |
| 21:03.02 | kingTD | "free porn" |
| 21:05.40 | Zolden | MoonEater none |
| 21:05.55 | MoonEater | camstudio is free |
| 21:06.04 | MoonEater | but i got corrupted codecas |
| 21:06.14 | MoonEater | having issues getting it to work |
| 21:23.35 | Zolden | camtasia has a gay issue: it desynchronises audio |
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| 21:24.55 | Otixa | eh |
| 21:24.57 | Otixa | wot happen |
| 21:25.05 | Daara | you canadian now otixa? |
| 21:25.13 | Otixa | naw mate |
| 21:25.37 | Daara | austria huh? well good day mate, let's put another shrimp on the barbie |
| 21:25.45 | Otixa | crikey |
| 21:25.53 | Dustin|Work | Austria != Australia |
| 21:25.56 | Dustin|Work | :P |
| 21:26.00 | Otixa | square go like >:[ |
| 21:26.04 | Daara | i was quoting dumb and dumber :P |
| 21:26.10 | Zolden | Austria != Austerlitz |
| 21:26.27 | Dustin|Work | lol I forgot about that line |
| 21:26.30 | Daara | geez. classic jim carey over the head ! |
| 21:26.41 | Otixa | wut ya tards up to? ;p |
| 21:26.41 | Dustin|Work | I haven't seen that movie in like 8 years lol |
| 21:26.45 | Dustin|Work | need to DL it tonight |
| 21:26.55 | Daara | either have I, but i could probably still recite it line for line :D |
| 21:27.24 | Zolden | i'm watching russian movie and it's amazing, hollywood sucks (jim carrey don't though) |
| 21:27.52 | Daara | i'm looking to make a character creation screen for my map |
| 21:28.02 | Daara | but the thought of making one makes me want to cry myself to sleep |
| 21:28.12 | Otixa | eh |
| 21:28.13 | Otixa | man up |
| 21:28.19 | Otixa | I still dunno what I wanna do for the show |
| 21:28.32 | Daara | you doing it tomorrow? |
| 21:28.36 | Zolden | spaceship |
| 21:28.44 | Zolden | i wish it happen tomorrow |
| 21:28.45 | Otixa | dunno |
| 21:28.55 | Daara | what is starcraft missing? |
| 21:29.08 | Otixa | whiny community |
| 21:29.09 | Otixa | oh wait |
| 21:29.10 | Otixa | ;D |
| 21:29.12 | Daara | lol |
| 21:29.16 | Daara | nope got that covered pretty good |
| 21:30.04 | Otixa | might do the stupid derp walls |
| 21:31.20 | Zolden | Otixa maybe that twodie's tower still? you had it half finished |
| 21:31.30 | Zolden | yea, walls don't have to be as detailed as you couldn't handle in 2 hours |
| 21:31.33 | Otixa | nah, would take too long for the highpoly |
| 21:31.56 | Otixa | walls aren't that difficult, might fit in a 2h window |
| 21:32.07 | Zolden | people want 3d max part |
| 21:32.07 | Zolden | watching you zbrushing is boring |
| 21:32.25 | Otixa | well, you can't have high quality shit without zbrush ;p |
| 21:33.06 | Zolden | and for the time I hope it won't be much later than GMT(+0) 0 am |
| 21:33.17 | Zolden | because it will be 3 am for me |
| 21:33.26 | Daara | cry more :P |
| 21:34.08 | Daara | i finally get to start taking some 3d modeling classes next semester |
| 21:34.20 | Daara | got all the bullshit classes out of the way after this one |
| 21:34.27 | Zolden | tell them to teach you to add normal/spec maps |
| 21:34.35 | Daara | shut up lol |
| 21:34.51 | Daara | i did spec maps |
| 21:35.03 | Daara | the normals are fucked up on a lot of models though |
| 21:36.19 | Otixa | because you're doing it wrong |
| 21:36.24 | Otixa | What's your degree? |
| 21:36.50 | Daara | 3d modeling and animation |
| 21:37.05 | Otixa | downs a shot of absynthe |
| 21:37.11 | Otixa | year? |
| 21:37.39 | Daara | what year am i in, or what year will i be done? |
| 21:38.03 | Otixa | What ywar are you in now? >;/ |
| 21:38.08 | Daara | 1st lol |
| 21:38.12 | Otixa | nerghh |
| 21:38.24 | Otixa | Protip: it's all about the presentation |
| 21:38.30 | Otixa | Make it look good |
| 21:38.43 | Otixa | Even if it's techincally meh, you'll still get an epic grade |
| 21:38.44 | Otixa | ;P |
| 21:39.37 | Otixa | Protip2: Absynthe tastes much better if you caramelize the sugar in the spoon before dumping it into the glass |
| 21:39.58 | Otixa | Just make sure you blow out the glass after, had one shatter earlier >> |
| 21:40.09 | Daara | sounds like fun |
| 21:41.07 | Otixa | Actually |
| 21:41.19 | Otixa | I have an example of my 1st year shit somewhere |
| 21:41.27 | Daara | is it pretty bad? |
| 21:42.07 | Otixa | Yea :D |
| 21:42.07 | Otixa | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps_RPHo5-1k |
| 21:42.10 | Otixa | enjoy |
| 21:42.15 | Otixa | Disregard the long rant at the end |
| 21:43.46 | Zolden | omg |
| 21:44.59 | Otixa | Oh, that vid lacks the long rant :D |
| 21:45.44 | Daara | yea i was gonna say, what rant? |
| 21:45.57 | Daara | yea, that's what i'd expect from a 1st class |
| 21:46.06 | Otixa | Year 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wgbc_OKR-g |
| 21:46.07 | Otixa | :P |
| 21:46.14 | Otixa | Shitty video, but ran out of time |
| 21:46.23 | Otixa | Was too busy not going to class and drinking scotch << |
| 21:46.40 | Daara | haha |
| 21:47.26 | Daara | i expect to be doing stuff like that soon |
| 21:47.45 | Otixa | Everything in that is hand painted :P |
| 21:47.55 | Otixa | Was a fucking nightmare |
| 21:48.01 | Otixa | And I swore to never do it again |
| 21:48.07 | Zolden | 3d modelling is nightmare |
| 21:48.07 | Otixa | Except I did next year ;p |
| 21:48.20 | Otixa | Actually |
| 21:48.26 | Daara | no class i've taken yet teaches how to do textures like that yet |
| 21:48.35 | Otixa | I have the perfect image to describe uni |
| 21:48.39 | Daara | they are like omg this is how you use this program |
| 21:48.43 | Otixa | Daara, get a tablet and open photoshop. Done ;p |
| 21:48.58 | Daara | i have a wacom tablet |
| 21:49.01 | Daara | and photoshop :P |
| 21:49.06 | Otixa | Well, you're all set then |
| 21:49.08 | Otixa | Also: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/bleh.jpg |
| 21:49.09 | Otixa | There |
| 21:49.12 | Otixa | A summary of uni |
| 21:49.29 | Daara | lol...KILL ME |
| 21:49.42 | Otixa | turned out kinda swanky in the end |
| 21:49.45 | Otixa | And runs on iPad3 |
| 21:50.43 | Otixa | :D |
| 21:50.46 | Daara | so blizzcon is actually worth going to now...maybe |
| 21:50.50 | Otixa | Naw |
| 21:51.04 | Daara | before a couple weeks ago they had nothing interesting to show |
| 21:51.05 | Otixa | Hey, remember when you first came in here and told me I don't know shit? :D |
| 21:51.13 | Daara | yep, you didn't then did you! |
| 21:51.13 | Otixa | chuckles |
| 21:51.23 | Otixa | Naw, not much has changed since then ;p |
| 21:51.26 | Daara | haha |
| 21:51.28 | Otixa | Other than my diploma |
| 21:51.50 | Daara | i know bits and pieces of everything |
| 21:51.57 | Daara | but need to learn how to bring it all together |
| 21:52.01 | Otixa | But you're doing 3D too now! You have so much fun to look forward to! |
| 21:52.08 | Otixa | like such: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/HappyFunTimes.jpg |
| 21:52.57 | Daara | wtf is that? |
| 21:53.12 | Daara | bowl of food? |
| 21:53.18 | Otixa | Creating a lowpoly mesh over a highpoly sculpt :> |
| 21:53.24 | Otixa | nah, brazier thing |
| 21:53.27 | Otixa | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/Assets/Brazier.jpg |
| 21:53.28 | Daara | ah |
| 21:53.31 | Otixa | Here, have some lowpoly |
| 21:54.48 | Otixa | Hey Zolden |
| 21:55.01 | Otixa | Think I should dissect how I do like an old Diablo-ish door? |
| 21:55.11 | Otixa | That should be fairly quick |
| 21:55.19 | Otixa | And leave a bunch of time for you to explain exporting |
| 21:55.23 | Otixa | And questions and answers |
| 21:55.24 | Daara | someone should find a way to get diablo 3 assets without fucked up animations :D |
| 21:55.39 | Otixa | When in doubt: make your own ;p |
| 21:55.40 | Zolden | dissect? |
| 21:55.49 | Daara | if i knew how, i would |
| 21:55.56 | Otixa | Watch the show then :P |
| 21:56.24 | Otixa | Can show how to make something like this: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/misc/ddo.jpg |
| 21:56.34 | Otixa | Shoudn't take mroe than 1.5-2 hours |
| 21:57.35 | Fate_ | zolden u play a game of my map? |
| 21:57.47 | Daara | what is your map? |
| 21:57.54 | Zolden | take Daara instead |
| 21:58.02 | Zolden | i'm mapmaking |
| 21:58.05 | Otixa | srsly, I have no idea what to do ;/ |
| 21:58.06 | Daara | fuck you zolden don't toss your burdons onto me! |
| 21:58.36 | Daara | maybe you don't have to make something completely new otixa |
| 21:58.50 | Otixa | no understando |
| 21:59.08 | Daara | i dunno fuck with some sc2 structures to make new shit |
| 21:59.28 | Otixa | But then it wouldn't really be... new :| |
| 21:59.44 | Daara | sc2 nerds go nuts over a marine with a different gun |
| 21:59.45 | Otixa | The idea is to show people how to make their own shit |
| 21:59.48 | Daara | they really aren't hard to impress :P |
| 22:00.29 | Otixa | nyergh |
| 22:00.34 | Otixa | Absynthe ;p |
| 22:00.43 | Otixa | Oh yea |
| 22:00.46 | Otixa | You better like booze |
| 22:00.55 | Otixa | You'll need a lot of it to get through this shit ;p |
| 22:01.51 | Daara | well |
| 22:01.59 | Daara | i usually take my anger out on other ppl on video games |
| 22:02.07 | Daara | i've discovered my 3 stages of anger |
| 22:02.20 | DeadZergling | Oh? Thought you was taking your anger out on other people's maps lately |
| 22:02.20 | Daara | 1, frustrated |
| 22:02.30 | Daara | 2, raging, start calling ppl names |
| 22:02.45 | Daara | 3, mickey mouse voice |
| 22:03.08 | Otixa | cackles |
| 22:03.14 | Daara | yea, i gave WAH the mickey mouse treatment |
| 22:03.21 | Otixa | gives Daara some absynthe |
| 22:03.25 | Triceron | mickey mouse voice rox |
| 22:03.35 | Otixa | Triceron, you gonna cohost this shit or what? |
| 22:03.40 | Triceron | no |
| 22:03.42 | Otixa | Also, did you make your derp cavirty maps? |
| 22:03.44 | Triceron | told you before |
| 22:03.46 | Otixa | Well, fuck you then >:[ |
| 22:03.47 | Daara | yea triceron we want to see your secrets |
| 22:03.55 | Ahli | mickey mouse voice??? how does that happen? |
| 22:03.58 | Otixa | His only secret is overusing AO ;p |
| 22:04.00 | Triceron | I have fun with my saturdays |
| 22:04.17 | Otixa | grins at Triceron |
| 22:04.20 | Triceron | how is using an AO map overusing AO :P |
| 22:04.25 | Daara | lol ahli, it just happens to be the best impression i can do...and I took it strait for south park |
| 22:04.31 | Otixa | Because you fucking blend it at 80% or more >:[ |
| 22:04.35 | Otixa | And it makes me really angry |
| 22:04.39 | Daara | YOU ARE ALL BUT ANTS!!!! AND I AM YOUR DESTROYER! |
| 22:04.50 | Triceron | cuz SC2 uses diffuse more than ambient lighting |
| 22:05.02 | Otixa | But that's ireelevant >:C |
| 22:05.04 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TF4_4g1B2Ug |
| 22:05.07 | Triceron | how is that irrelevant?! |
| 22:05.14 | Otixa | Because it breaks lighting! |
| 22:05.16 | Triceron | these models aren't gonna go in UE3 or anything |
| 22:05.35 | Otixa | growls and hits Triceron with a thin triangle |
| 22:06.10 | Ahli | zolden, btw, setting a duration will destroy the text tag when it runs out, yes |
| 22:06.19 | Otixa | Daara, how's yer engrish? ;p |
| 22:06.50 | Daara | rearry good |
| 22:06.59 | Otixa | Goodie, so you can cohost too then |
| 22:07.13 | Daara | lol wut |
| 22:07.55 | Ahli | so, when is the show? |
| 22:08.05 | Otixa | Either tomorrow or after blizzcon ;p |
| 22:08.22 | Otixa | Daara, need someone who would ask derp questions that I woldn't even consider |
| 22:08.34 | Otixa | Sadly, Zolden seems to be getting somewhat good at this shit |
| 22:08.35 | Daara | haha |
| 22:08.35 | Otixa | ;P |
| 22:08.49 | Daara | so you want me to ask stupid questions -_- |
| 22:08.59 | Ahli | my questions would start with: how the heck do I use 3dsmax :D |
| 22:09.19 | Otixa | Daara, what, you object? ;P |
| 22:09.20 | Tomura | he wants you to ask intelligent stupid questions |
| 22:09.31 | Otixa | Ahli, polygons lol \o/ |
| 22:09.37 | Otixa | smacks Tomura |
| 22:09.39 | Otixa | You spy! ;p |
| 22:09.51 | DeadZergling | was just looking at https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/bleh.jpg , why such angry lady parts in the middle? |
| 22:10.22 | Otixa | Council reference from thatthing |
| 22:10.50 | Otixa | uhh |
| 22:10.52 | DeadZergling | ah, just looked like a really angry beaver in that white window |
| 22:10.52 | Otixa | darksiders! |
| 22:10.57 | Daara | well i'll be busy tomorrow |
| 22:11.01 | Daara | depends on the time |
| 22:11.06 | Otixa | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/BeautyShot4.jpg |
| 22:11.08 | Otixa | Better? ;p |
| 22:11.15 | Daara | and next week i'll be in cali for nerdcon |
| 22:11.21 | Daara | and anaheim ducks game |
| 22:11.47 | Daara | what's our difference like 9 hours? |
| 22:11.56 | Otixa | Daara, about 1PM your time |
| 22:12.02 | Daara | yea that won't happen |
| 22:12.07 | Otixa | >=[ |
| 22:12.08 | Daara | husker game is on at 130 |
| 22:12.16 | Daara | i don't miss my football games :P |
| 22:12.23 | Otixa | There won't be any VOD ;P |
| 22:14.45 | Zolden | Ahli yea, tested it, you right |
| 22:23.39 | G0A | Zolden https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q_Map5zGPfU :) |
| 22:26.22 | DeadZergling | an attempt to make weird instruments sound good G0A? |
| 22:30.41 | Zolden | I want to be able to spend ally's resources when I use his build abils |
| 22:30.42 | Zolden | is it possible? |
| 22:30.56 | Zolden | I enabled resource spending, and now it is spending my resources |
| 22:31.33 | A1win | I think it only uses them if you're out |
| 22:31.47 | Zolden | oh, wiat, it has a bug |
| 22:31.56 | Zolden | they just had no resources |
| 22:32.04 | A1win | :x |
| 22:32.20 | A1win | energy drinks make my brain slower ;( I seem to lose all my creativity |
| 22:32.45 | Zolden | :) |
| 22:32.46 | A1win | I think there was some study that said the same thing about caffeine |
| 22:32.53 | DeadZergling | better hit the bathroom, I always feel more creative after that |
| 22:33.01 | G0A | A1win I dont drink energy drinks since years... |
| 22:33.16 | Zolden | process of creation stimulates creativity the best |
| 22:33.22 | Zolden | also, weed, meth and cocain |
| 22:33.27 | G0A | :D |
| 22:33.38 | A1win | yeah I need to find some substitute for energy drinks ;p |
| 22:33.46 | Zolden | nice trance G |
| 22:33.47 | DeadZergling | is decent G0A, just wish the song would have went somewhere |
| 22:33.48 | G0A | you tried mapping on cocain? |
| 22:33.49 | Zolden | Grum |
| 22:33.51 | Zolden | G0A |
| 22:34.31 | Zolden | I never ever tried cocain |
| 22:34.32 | Zolden | but i know how it works from literature and movies |
| 22:34.37 | G0A | DeadZergling it goes somewhere when its in a live set :) |
| 22:35.02 | Zolden | DeadZergling it changed the tonic once for a couple of tacts |
| 22:35.16 | DeadZergling | yea, but it keeps retreating back to the original beat |
| 22:35.25 | DeadZergling | never takes off to something new really |
| 22:35.45 | Zolden | most of trance songs have this problem |
| 22:35.58 | DeadZergling | guess they called trance for a reason huh |
| 22:36.09 | Zolden | harmony is what makes music be magical |
| 22:36.28 | DeadZergling | it sounds better the second time |
| 22:37.04 | DeadZergling | guess I've heard far too many boss music tracks |
| 22:37.51 | DeadZergling | over 80 % of the songs I have memorized are easily Video Game tracks, no words |
| 22:38.41 | G0A | so Zolden how does cocain and meth stimulate creativity? |
| 22:38.55 | DeadZergling | A1win, tried spicy food? |
| 22:40.51 | A1win | http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/files/2013/07/1243988608214.jpg |
| 22:41.16 | A1win | DeadZergling, every now and then D: |
| 22:41.50 | DeadZergling | If it isn't working, you simply aren't going spicy enough |
| 22:42.52 | Triceron | anyone here bout a virtual ticket? |
| 22:42.57 | Triceron | *bought |
| 22:43.31 | Zolden | G0A meth just makes you smart, you think fast and is concentrated |
| 22:44.04 | Zolden | and cocain makes you excited |
| 22:44.54 | Zolden | Triceron Ahli did |
| 22:45.40 | Triceron | Ahli, did you get it for the pet? |
| 22:46.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster ElectricPrism (~Loren@unaffiliated/electricprism) |
| 22:50.35 | Ahli | I've a virtual ticket, yes |
| 22:50.45 | *** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.16.176.pool.invitel.hu) |
| 22:51.07 | Ahli | I don't play wow, lol |
| 22:51.45 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:52.13 | Ahli | because I complained that 30¤ or 40$ was a big high... |
| 22:52.44 | Zolden | do they buy it to everyone who complained? |
| 22:52.48 | Ahli | I will make some coverage about it... |
| 22:52.58 | Triceron | ahh |
| 22:52.59 | Zolden | just stream it for us |
| 22:53.16 | Triceron | :D |
| 22:53.31 | Ahli | I will type the news into the shoutbox or make a thread, yes :D |
| 22:53.40 | Ahli | but I won't make illegal streams |
| 22:54.29 | DeadZergling | what you need the creativity for anyways A1win ? |
| 22:55.13 | A1win | to not be bored :x |
| 22:57.31 | A1win | trance control has done a good job removing Deep Vibrations from the web, can't find it anywhere x_X |
| 22:58.01 | A1win | well probably could as a torrent but was trying to link it related to that trance video earlier |
| 22:58.34 | A1win | http://trancecontrol.bandcamp.com/track/deep-vibrations |
| 22:59.41 | A1win | didn't think to just google it :P tried video search on google and youtube but not regular search |
| 23:00.24 | DeadZergling | silly a1win |
| 23:00.31 | DeadZergling | too much caffeine for him |
| 23:04.45 | DeadZergling | Laying out what I think needs to be done w/ my project, becomes quickly apparent why I take so many breaks, lol |
| 23:05.13 | A1win | DeadZergling, did you see my weird unity projects |
| 23:05.22 | DeadZergling | no, linkem |
| 23:05.35 | A1win | quick tech demos |
| 23:05.37 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/games/unity/hexa/v5/ |
| 23:05.43 | A1win | wasd+mouse |
| 23:06.21 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/games/unity/block/v2/ wasd+mouse+space (collisions are buggy) |
| 23:09.00 | DeadZergling | wasd just kept making boxes, lol |
| 23:09.12 | A1win | yeah |
| 23:09.29 | A1win | imagine you are moving in that environment |
| 23:09.44 | A1win | in first person |
| 23:10.00 | DeadZergling | oh i see, your updates are just redrawing everything, every time |
| 23:10.13 | A1win | kind of :P |
| 23:10.32 | A1win | nothing actually moves there, it just changes the scale of the boxes as you "move" |
| 23:11.04 | A1win | you can see it better if you go near a wall and tap wasd a bit instead of holding down |
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| 23:12.57 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/games/unity/hexa/v6/ that's a bit clearer version of the hexa thing |
| 23:14.07 | DeadZergling | certainly looks smoother, but a lot more boring at the same time |
| 23:14.20 | DeadZergling | the other one had stuff i could jump on top of at least |
| 23:14.29 | DeadZergling | even if the cubes kept shrinking/growing, lol |
| 23:14.43 | A1win | hehe |
| 23:16.16 | A1win | probably will just abandon those, haven't had any ideas for where I'd want to go with them ;p |
| 23:16.31 | DeadZergling | make quake? |
| 23:16.52 | A1win | the cube thing took less than a day, the hexa thing I worked on during 2-3 days I think |
| 23:17.29 | DeadZergling | definitely see why I keep taking breaks, on one sheet of paper have enough tasks for a year just off the top of my head... |
| 23:17.33 | A1win | I'll try to come up with more abstract stuff :P |
| 23:17.42 | A1win | :x |
| 23:18.01 | A1win | I kind of want to make a sandbox game |
| 23:18.11 | A1win | or just an engine that I could keep adding features whenever I feel like it |
| 23:18.41 | A1win | but don't want it to be just a regular 3D game |
| 23:18.57 | A1win | so I've been trying to come up with something abstract |
| 23:19.14 | A1win | *regular realistic 3D game |
| 23:19.17 | DeadZergling | is it safe to say you are off the bus again? |
| 23:19.30 | A1win | well we did have a test of the map today |
| 23:19.39 | A1win | lag isn't as bad anymore |
| 23:19.45 | A1win | but the game mode needs to be remade |
| 23:19.48 | A1win | it was boring ;p |
| 23:19.48 | DeadZergling | the planet hopping one? |
| 23:19.50 | A1win | and chaotic |
| 23:19.52 | A1win | yeah |
| 23:20.10 | DeadZergling | I was playing my project some last night, make sure new patches didn't totally break it or something |
| 23:20.20 | DeadZergling | no breaks, but the map was kicking my ass with no problem |
| 23:20.57 | A1win | also I should rather be working on Unity than on SC2 stuff anyway |
| 23:21.03 | DeadZergling | just merrily going along my way, giant wolf mini boss kept jumping at me from out of nowhere, lol |
| 23:21.19 | A1win | :x |
| 23:21.52 | DeadZergling | and by jump, I mean literally jumped on top of me, I designed them to be real bastards |
| 23:22.26 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZI4MWGeW6U |
| 23:22.29 | A1win | if I make a unity game that doesn't require networking or AI, or any fancy graphics, I don't need to learn much new stuff to be able to make it |
| 23:22.57 | DeadZergling | graphics, why my game is for sc2, lol |
| 23:23.06 | A1win | hehe |
| 23:23.36 | A1win | yeah I'd just make something to practice using the engine |
| 23:24.04 | A1win | to make a proper game I'll need a team ;p |
| 23:24.25 | A1win | unless I use "programmer graphics" |
| 23:26.00 | A1win | the problem with designing abstract games is that there's nothing to use as reference :X |
| 23:26.28 | A1win | which is why I shouldn't be drinking energy drinks |
| 23:27.36 | DeadZergling | programmer graphics? |
| 23:28.42 | A1win | yeah, graphics that rely on generated/scripted stuff to look "cool" |
| 23:28.50 | A1win | like those tech demos that I linked |
| 23:29.19 | Zolden | like mars.com |
| 23:30.06 | A1win | maybe some kind of a cyberspace thingy |
| 23:30.41 | Otixa | hits A1win |
| 23:30.42 | Zolden | or was it mars.exe |
| 23:31.08 | A1win | ow x.x |
| 23:31.22 | Otixa | come up with something decent |
| 23:31.26 | Otixa | I make graphics |
| 23:31.32 | Otixa | Greenlight, split 50/50 ;p |
| 23:31.37 | A1win | ;> |
| 23:34.46 | DeadZergling | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86okVmFzCDs is by the same person Zolden |
| 23:40.57 | Daara | that picture made me think of this |
| 23:41.01 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sHzdsFiBbFc |
| 23:47.40 | Zolden | lol |
| 23:47.41 | Zolden | funny |
| 23:49.36 | Zolden | lol again |
| 23:49.47 | Zolden | stop posting funny vids, i'm trying to mapmake here |
| 23:53.38 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnZdiR7YbN4 |
| 23:53.49 | Daara | how about some catbug? |
| 23:56.59 | Daara | SUGAR PEAS! |
