| 00:00.24 | Ownage | then from gui you should be able to call it with new action > custom script > gf_m_action_name(... |
| 00:00.33 | Ownage | that's my understanding of it anyway |
| 00:01.06 | MoonEater | well i have almost static scripts |
| 00:01.34 | MoonEater | i need to create a unit at point and add that unit to a gui unit group |
| 00:01.38 | MoonEater | all i need |
| 00:01.42 | MoonEater | from scripts |
| 00:01.58 | Obscenity | Well im out |
| 00:01.59 | Obscenity | Peace |
| 00:02.01 | Obscenity | Good work bommes |
| 00:02.15 | MoonEater | ./me goes look how to make units from scripts |
| 00:03.21 | Ownage | just write it out in gui and view the script |
| 00:04.48 | MoonEater | what im doing |
| 00:04.51 | MoonEater | XD |
| 00:08.39 | MoonEater | Ownage |
| 00:08.41 | MoonEater | so |
| 00:09.30 | MoonEater | http://pastebin.com/k8G73Wck |
| 00:09.46 | MoonEater | wait |
| 00:09.58 | MoonEater | nvm i just need the list |
| 00:10.00 | MoonEater | right? |
| 00:16.49 | Ownage | well it's not a function, it's just random lines |
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| 00:27.38 | Ownage | srry had to switch vpns |
| 01:25.44 | JademusSreg | has been assembling its fabulous résumé. |
| 01:26.30 | JademusSreg | Anything of interest occur during the interim? |
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| 01:40.31 | Bommes | I just finished my first Open GL exercise this semester and I'm now basically a certified master of simple transformation matrices. Interesting enough? |
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| 01:46.54 | ArcanePariah | As for me, reworking triggers into data as usual, and sometimes wondering if it is worth it, since data, although more powerful, often takes more effort to recreate, triggers are so much more focused and problmatic at times |
| 01:47.51 | ArcanePariah | I am very much hoping that once Blizzard people are done working on HotS, they can turn their attention to documenting more of the editor and providing more tooltips |
| 01:48.29 | ArcanePariah | Delatrius seemed to indicate that because of work on Heroes, they had little time for anything else |
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| 02:59.22 | Otixa | claws its way from out of the shadows |
| 02:59.24 | Otixa | eh |
| 02:59.26 | Otixa | what |
| 02:59.33 | Otixa | punches JademusSreg |
| 02:59.36 | Otixa | punches Bommes |
| 02:59.59 | Otixa | Bommes, congrats. You took your first baby step into real 3D land ;p |
| 03:00.17 | Otixa | Now on to shaders |
| 03:00.21 | Otixa | chop chop |
| 03:02.52 | Bommes | I've done some stuff in Open GL before actually.. nothing significant, but it's not the first time I'm using it |
| 03:05.13 | Otixa | peach juice? ;p |
| 03:07.50 | ArcanePariah | lolz |
| 03:08.19 | Otixa | wut? |
| 03:08.26 | Otixa | I'm laying off the scotch today |
| 03:13.28 | MoonEater | does anyone know how to get the unit type id from picked unit? |
| 03:13.40 | MoonEater | you can get the unit name to string |
| 03:13.44 | MoonEater | well to text |
| 03:13.48 | MoonEater | but not the id |
| 03:13.51 | MoonEater | ? |
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| 03:36.43 | ElectricPrism | Q: Can anyone theorize how I would change command cards according to the race a player is on a building? |
| 03:36.58 | ElectricPrism | without duplicating the unit |
| 03:49.11 | MoonEater | dont think so |
| 03:56.44 | ElectricPrism | Are command cards constants? |
| 03:58.24 | MoonEater | well |
| 03:58.27 | MoonEater | the buttons arnt |
| 03:58.38 | MoonEater | but the ui is undynamic to my knoledge |
| 03:58.48 | MoonEater | you could rebuild the command card from dialog i guess |
| 04:00.31 | ElectricPrism | fascinating, thanks ill brainstorm off that idea |
| 04:02.21 | Otixa | brainfart* |
| 04:03.28 | MoonEater | ElectricPrism, u will need a key catch system for hot keys |
| 04:03.41 | MoonEater | i can help you with that buut dont get discouraged by it |
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| 04:33.02 | JademusSreg | Ah, so congrats on personal stuff, nothing of interest pertaining to SC2 content. |
| 04:46.24 | ArcanePariah | JademusSreg: I did have a question for you, do you know how to use the Score Results data types to alter the post game score screen? |
| 04:47.02 | ArcanePariah | Because any time i alter the base one, it causes variations validation to fail on upload and if I create my own root, it just errors out the post game scrore screen |
| 05:29.38 | MoonEater | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:29.40 | MoonEater | ur back |
| 05:29.42 | MoonEater | welcome |
| 05:33.00 | MoonEater | JADE>!>! |
| 05:33.04 | MoonEater | ping me |
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| 06:27.27 | kingTD | http://store.steampowered.com/app/244850?snr=1_41_4__42 |
| 06:45.00 | Ownage | trying my first galaxy script, getting syntax error on the first line: gv_units[1][1] = Zealot |
| 06:45.12 | Ownage | I copied this directly from viewing script after setting it through gui |
| 06:45.16 | Ownage | I also tried adding ; |
| 06:45.34 | Ownage | units is a global unit type variable |
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| 06:51.56 | Kueken | Ownage: and its a 2 dimensional array with at least [2][2] dimensions? |
| 06:52.05 | Ownage | yes |
| 06:52.17 | Ownage | I just literally did a gui set variable, and then copy that line |
| 06:52.19 | Kueken | and what is Zealot? another variable? |
| 06:52.30 | Ownage | unit type |
| 06:52.43 | Ownage | chosen through the values menu in gui |
| 06:52.47 | Kueken | and gv_units is a unit type variable? |
| 06:53.01 | Kueken | yes, you said so |
| 06:53.02 | Kueken | kk |
| 06:53.12 | Kueken | unit types in galaxy are strings |
| 06:53.22 | Kueken | so you probably need to use "Zealot" |
| 06:53.25 | Kueken | with the "" |
| 06:53.26 | Ownage | note that this is my first time screwing around with it so I'm sure I'm doing something wrong |
| 06:53.40 | Ownage | but there were no quotes in gui view script |
| 06:53.44 | Ownage | isn't that galaxy script? |
| 06:54.08 | Kueken | it might be using variables internally |
| 06:54.14 | Ownage | hmm you're right it saves now, thanks |
| 06:54.30 | Ownage | next Q, I notice in the view script area that there is a declaration of functions |
| 06:54.42 | Ownage | how do I do that manually, as my function is inside a 'custom script' |
| 06:54.49 | Ownage | or will it see it |
| 06:55.02 | Ownage | no it doesn't see it |
| 06:55.06 | Kueken | custom script object? or custom script action in a gui trigger? |
| 06:55.31 | Ownage | on the left side |
| 06:55.48 | Kueken | the thing with initializer n stuff |
| 06:56.01 | Ownage | where triggers are |
| 06:56.05 | Ownage | right click > custom script |
| 06:56.10 | Kueken | yes |
| 06:56.30 | Kueken | so you want to create a new custom script function? |
| 06:56.31 | Ownage | when I view script I don't see a global declaration of it |
| 06:56.47 | Ownage | I want to make a function in galaxy script and call it once during init |
| 06:56.59 | Ownage | I have to assign a shit load of stuff that I can generate with a python script |
| 06:57.20 | Kueken | view script doesn't show you the actual map script, it shows the converted GUI triggers |
| 06:57.34 | Kueken | it might even exclude custom script objects |
| 06:57.41 | Ownage | so just having a void gf_whatever(){ do something; } |
| 06:57.55 | Ownage | is that enough to elsewhere do new action -> custom script -> gf_whatever() ? |
| 06:58.15 | Kueken | to view the true map script, go to import manager -> check show reserved -> look at mapscript.galaxy |
| 06:58.45 | Kueken | yes, that should work |
| 06:58.56 | Ownage | thanks Kueken |
| 06:59.08 | Kueken | note that a function can only call functions declared above it |
| 06:59.45 | Kueken | also, the gf_ prefix is a GUI thing, you don't have to use that |
| 07:00.16 | Kueken | void foobar(){do something;} works just fine |
| 07:19.56 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 07:20.00 | MoonEater | u admin on forums? |
| 07:20.32 | Kueken | nope |
| 07:22.09 | MoonEater | damn |
| 07:22.17 | MoonEater | im starting a cartographer group for my game |
| 07:22.20 | MoonEater | i need approval |
| 07:22.25 | MoonEater | should bring in new members |
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| 07:29.44 | G0A | lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXK0QZN8XWk :) |
| 07:30.28 | G0A | I wonder if that is hack or bug |
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| 07:35.33 | MoonEater | Kueken, |
| 07:35.42 | MoonEater | how would i add knockback via triggers? |
| 07:36.35 | Kueken | move unit instantly periodically, I guess |
| 07:37.16 | Kueken | G0A: just abuse, the lightspawn always has as much attack as it has hp, and he has tons of creatures increasing hp every turn |
| 07:37.45 | Kueken | he just waited a couple of turns, probably used some of those spells that double hp |
| 07:38.17 | MoonEater | Kueken, could i apply a behavior with a push effect? |
| 07:38.29 | Kueken | sure |
| 07:38.40 | MoonEater | how do i set the angle of the force? |
| 07:39.19 | Kueken | it is usually from launch to target point |
| 07:39.26 | Kueken | for a behavior thats an issue |
| 07:39.52 | Kueken | you need to specify the direction via trigger? |
| 07:40.17 | MoonEater | yes probably |
| 07:40.26 | MoonEater | my sprite system works dynamicaly |
| 07:40.35 | MoonEater | so zealots with no modifacations |
| 07:40.40 | MoonEater | plug right into it |
| 07:40.51 | MoonEater | so i need to add knockback to zelot attacks |
| 07:41.05 | MoonEater | or whatever unit is hooked into the system |
| 07:41.24 | Kueken | you could just issue a move command |
| 07:43.24 | MoonEater | the unit would turn |
| 07:43.31 | MoonEater | doesnt force stop that? |
| 07:45.59 | MoonEater | Kueken, can i apply a behavior that add knock back to attacks? |
| 07:46.50 | Kueken | force turns the unit as well, but you can make a behavior suppress turning. not sure if that works with moving |
| 07:47.20 | Kueken | you can add knockback to the weapon itself or via a behavior with a damage response, if you use damage |
| 07:48.04 | MoonEater | why would force turn a unit?!? |
| 07:48.19 | Kueken | no idea, but it does |
| 07:48.28 | Kueken | it also makes them play the move animation :D |
| 07:48.36 | Kueken | if you don't do anything about it |
| 07:48.57 | MoonEater | oh wow |
| 07:48.59 | MoonEater | that sucks |
| 07:49.05 | MoonEater | like balls |
| 07:49.12 | MoonEater | and looking at it |
| 07:49.20 | MoonEater | the only thing that usses it |
| 07:49.26 | MoonEater | is mothership vortex |
| 07:49.36 | MoonEater | i never noticed they walk into the damn thing |
| 07:49.58 | Kueken | pretty sure their animation gets halted |
| 07:50.31 | MoonEater | so what i apply behaviors which freezes up |
| 07:50.46 | MoonEater | the target? |
| 07:51.00 | Kueken | you can make an actor that stops the animation and a behavior that stops turning |
| 07:51.52 | MoonEater | shit |
| 07:52.10 | MoonEater | sounds to me like i should just warp instalty on a fast look... |
| 07:52.12 | MoonEater | loop |
| 07:52.24 | Kueken | force effects are a pain to deal with |
| 07:52.46 | MoonEater | nothing uses them i dont even think blizzard likes them |
| 07:53.07 | Kueken | they also don't stack, they cannot push a unit faster than the unit's movespeed and they always disable the unit, so you cannot run in the opposite direction to weaken the effect or something |
| 07:53.21 | Kueken | so many stupid restrictions |
| 07:53.23 | MoonEater | anyways keep an out ima try to release a full concept preview monday, with any luck it should be tantalizing and grab me the needed cartographers |
| 07:59.39 | MoonEater | Kueken, whats a good way to stun? |
| 07:59.51 | Kueken | the stun flag :) |
| 07:59.55 | Kueken | behavior |
| 08:01.08 | Kueken | there is a default behavior called "stunned" |
| 08:01.12 | Kueken | don't use that :D |
| 08:02.42 | MoonEater | im not sure if ur sarcastic or serious.... |
| 08:02.46 | MoonEater | we will see which i choose... |
| 08:04.49 | Ownage | someone help meeeee |
| 08:05.03 | Ownage | trying to get an emp blast to happen at a unit for that unit, when he dies |
| 08:05.24 | Ownage | right now I have death response chance 1, death response effect emp search area |
| 08:05.35 | Ownage | however it doesn't do anything at all. what am I missing |
| 08:06.08 | Kueken | MoonEater: serious, the behavior disables queueing orders etc, its not nice |
| 08:06.46 | MoonEater | haha |
| 08:06.53 | MoonEater | does it disable movement? |
| 08:07.24 | MoonEater | Ownage use a behavior and appy it manualy for each part of the ability |
| 08:07.28 | MoonEater | narrow it down |
| 08:07.53 | MoonEater | AHAHAHA |
| 08:08.06 | MoonEater | Kueken, it knock backs tword the unit triggering it again |
| 08:08.12 | MoonEater | hes flying around the map |
| 08:08.31 | Kueken | :) |
| 08:08.43 | MoonEater | ya i put the knockback on a loop |
| 08:15.10 | MoonEater | trying so hard to not make it look chunky.. |
| 08:15.11 | kingTD | dialogs bnet lag still in action? for spaming and making actions multiple times? Solving is how is made? adding gv_boolens? |
| 08:15.18 | kingTD | and wait times |
| 08:15.57 | MoonEater | yep |
| 08:16.00 | MoonEater | KingTD |
| 08:16.03 | MoonEater | heres what u do |
| 08:16.11 | MoonEater | u put the dialog actions into a QUEUE |
| 08:16.18 | MoonEater | check it on a periodic timer |
| 08:16.30 | MoonEater | make it ingnore duplicates |
| 08:18.28 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 08:18.38 | MoonEater | is there a way to make it not look chunky? |
| 08:18.58 | Kueken | the move instantly stuff? |
| 08:19.13 | Kueken | you can check blend, can't you? |
| 08:19.55 | Kueken | kingTD: yeah, boolean is usually the way to go |
| 08:22.28 | kingTD | how much time mostly require to wait? |
| 08:24.38 | A1win | no need for a queue, just make it not do anything on the 2nd time if it isn't supposed to do anything on the 2nd time |
| 08:30.36 | kingTD | http://pastebin.com/iXbd57Ws |
| 08:31.54 | A1win | why do you need to disable it for 0.3 seconds? |
| 08:32.17 | A1win | also you can't use "triggering whatever" after a wait action |
| 08:32.38 | A1win | store it into a local variable before the wait and use that instead |
| 08:32.52 | A1win | local variable player = triggering player |
| 08:33.31 | kingTD | hmmm |
| 08:33.42 | A1win | disabling a UI button for an arbitrary duration of time seems silly and unintuitive |
| 08:34.19 | A1win | unless there's a very specific reason why it can only be clicked once every 0.3 seconds |
| 08:34.33 | kingTD | no its not :/ |
| 08:34.41 | kingTD | no there is no reason |
| 08:35.05 | A1win | so why do you disable it then? |
| 08:36.16 | kingTD | well for waiting porpuses o/i |
| 08:36.30 | A1win | what if I want to click it twice in the row but it only does anything on the first click? I'd feel like there's a bug |
| 08:36.59 | kingTD | yes it really is a pain making this way :/ |
| 08:37.23 | kingTD | so what correct way to do so? |
| 08:37.32 | A1win | you still haven't explained why it needs a delay at all |
| 08:38.29 | kingTD | spawning unit once when clicking the dialog item and hide the dialog itself |
| 08:38.40 | kingTD | and use dialog for future use |
| 08:39.05 | A1win | O.o |
| 08:39.22 | A1win | is "future use" 0.3 seconds afterwards? |
| 08:39.27 | A1win | or later? |
| 08:40.11 | kingTD | no its waiting for making the trigger actions not to be spammed... |
| 08:40.27 | JademusSreg | Needz moar programmatic logic. |
| 08:40.44 | A1win | then why do you enable it after 0.3 seconds if you are not going to use it at that time D: |
| 08:40.53 | A1win | just disable it after 1st click and leave it disabled |
| 08:41.10 | A1win | then enable it when it needs to be enabled |
| 08:41.25 | kingTD | but you still sometimes able to spawn or make the effects more to get going? |
| 08:41.41 | A1win | not if you disable it after the first time it does something |
| 08:42.02 | A1win | and obviously check if it is enabled before you allow it to do anything |
| 08:42.06 | JademusSreg | I read that it's for spawning units and figured the info is insufficient. What is this all about? |
| 08:42.24 | A1win | a dialog button that is only supposed to do something once |
| 08:42.40 | A1win | apparently it is a mystery how to make that happen <.< |
| 08:42.50 | kingTD | how to make it happen more than once |
| 08:43.03 | JademusSreg | I always start by assuming how a person wants to accomplish something is wrong. |
| 08:43.07 | kingTD | not to happen more than once |
| 08:43.44 | JademusSreg | So what is the Ultimate Purpose Of Twod's Dialog Button? |
| 08:45.12 | A1win | button clicked event -> is boolean true? no -> end script, yes -> set boolean false, do whatever actions |
| 08:45.19 | JademusSreg | Again: don't describe what you're doing, because as stated how you're going about it is assumed to be wrong. Wanna know "the design", what it does from a gameplay perspective. |
| 08:46.10 | JademusSreg | Also, as A1 points out, that's exactly how you avoid trigger spam from interface shit like buttons. =D |
| 08:46.26 | kingTD | any information about bnet lag and dialog buttons is acceptable :P |
| 08:46.46 | A1win | bnet lag has nothing to do with it |
| 08:47.02 | kingTD | ^.> |
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| 08:47.07 | A1win | well, except it allows you to click buttons multiple times before the script hides them |
| 08:47.16 | A1win | but that is not an issue |
| 08:47.34 | A1win | because you're not supposed to rely on the button's clickability |
| 08:48.04 | A1win | just forget the button even exists, and instead handle whatever input it gives you |
| 08:48.55 | A1win | imagine the button is a remote controller in your house and when you push its button, a man comes at your door the next day and takes the remote controller away |
| 08:49.08 | JademusSreg | Yeah, not bnet lag precisely; interface element events (like hover, click) are asynchronously responsive, and the state is synced. There's always latency. If you can click more than once within a single update period, you'd see it happen in local tests too. |
| 08:50.18 | A1win | so you can push the remote controller as many times as you want, but as soon as the server gets the first input from it, it just starts to ignore any further input |
| 08:50.47 | A1win | and sends the man on his way |
| 08:50.55 | kingTD | how about situation. Button cost 200 integers to click. And you have 1000 integers. And then u spam the button. So does Alwin solution works? |
| 08:51.24 | JademusSreg | Subtract the cost after the bool check, of course. |
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| 08:52.26 | A1win | is boolean true? yes -> cost = cost - 100, if cost <= 0: boolean = false, actions |
| 08:52.42 | kingTD | okay |
| 08:52.54 | JademusSreg | Or rather more accurately, the bool check should be in the condition (HasShitBeenClicked?) so the trigger should return from the function promptly. Non issue. |
| 08:54.00 | JademusSreg | Trigger condition evaluation is AND by default, so it's trivial. |
| 08:54.56 | A1win | err, integer = integer - 100, not cost |
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| 08:55.18 | A1win | you could just do is integer > 0? yes -> integer = integer - 100; actions |
| 08:55.36 | A1win | unless you want some alternative means to control the button as well |
| 08:55.56 | JademusSreg | Also, important note, trigger local variables that are initialized to a value are initialized before conditions are checked, so always set the local triggering player and other such event response shit from the variable initialization field, so you can use them in conditions -and- avoid making trigger actions to set the variables. |
| 08:57.45 | JademusSreg | And now, nap time. |
| 08:58.44 | Zolden | saves duckies with shittyduck.sav filename |
| 09:00.10 | duckies | starts multiplicating and copying himself everywhere, especially in zoldens /windows directory |
| 09:01.21 | Zolden | notes that his disc is full and can't recieve one more copy |
| 09:03.18 | duckies | notes that zoldens computer has no more space and escapes into the web to continue his irresponsible way of life |
| 09:04.39 | Zolden | archivates his shittyduck.sav copy into fuckenduck.rar and puts it on 5.25 diskette, and sends it to the laboratory of ducks for experiments |
| 09:05.04 | Zolden | hopes they release antiduckus soon |
| 09:05.23 | MoonEater | JADE |
| 09:05.27 | MoonEater | u there? |
| 09:05.33 | MoonEater | damn |
| 09:06.45 | duckies | notes that one of his copies got moved into antiduck facillity, starts research on zerg in order to learn how to constantly evolve so that no anti-duck countermeasures would ever be efficent |
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| 09:08.42 | Zolden | leaves planet in search of duckless place |
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| 09:14.10 | duckies | manifest hismelf out of web to go pester some old ladies for free bread |
| 09:15.17 | Zolden | i watched despicable me yesterday, and there was a little duck episode |
| 09:15.25 | Zolden | it quacked |
| 09:15.44 | Zolden | on a minion who tried to quack on it |
| 09:23.27 | duckies | fascinating |
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| 09:27.10 | MoonEater | ok |
| 09:27.11 | MoonEater | u 2 |
| 09:27.14 | MoonEater | r dumb |
| 09:27.16 | MoonEater | as fuck |
| 09:27.22 | MoonEater | im tired of reading you guys |
| 09:27.33 | MoonEater | im off to bed with ms mooneater |
| 09:45.34 | Zolden | kingTD REPORT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 10:11.51 | kingTD | Zolden what you want? |
| 10:15.51 | Zolden | MAPS AND MODELS! |
| 10:16.54 | kingTD | Well mapping is on pause. And modelling will be delayed for sometime. Like till tomorrow |
| 10:19.02 | Zolden | gave yourself a rest day? |
| 10:21.33 | kingTD | no Dota time :] one more match and will go mapping. |
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| 11:43.50 | EmperorZolden | those yellow and blue border lines on map in terrain editor - will players see stuff outside of yellow but within blue? |
| 11:48.24 | Ownage | how can I make a behavior which returns % damage? |
| 11:56.03 | kingTD | EmperorZolden will see the outside too |
| 11:56.42 | kingTD | outside of both? |
| 11:56.56 | kingTD | basic not playable map area will see too |
| 11:59.01 | EmperorZolden | kingTD i mean with game camera |
| 11:59.08 | kingTD | yes |
| 11:59.15 | EmperorZolden | outside of blue? |
| 11:59.19 | kingTD | they cayes |
| 11:59.26 | kingTD | in not playable map area |
| 11:59.27 | EmperorZolden | they waht? |
| 12:00.44 | EmperorZolden | can I somehow get rid of the UGLY habit of the trigger editor to add shitty gv_ and lv_ prefixes to variables? |
| 12:00.47 | kingTD | you will see less of it but turning camera or moving unit near the fog you will reveal and see shit |
| 12:01.19 | EmperorZolden | ok |
| 12:02.18 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/bS5Km.jpg |
| 12:02.47 | kingTD | who is lazy fucker? |
| 12:06.53 | EmperorZolden | hmm, there are 3 height layers? air, ground and "glide"? what's this glide? |
| 12:07.22 | EmperorZolden | likes "invade" button |
| 12:07.27 | EmperorZolden | likes to invade |
| 12:10.03 | Otixa | tards ;p |
| 12:13.02 | EmperorZolden | calls putin and asks for a favor to invade britain and rape and kill all citizens |
| 12:17.22 | kingTD | Is its possible using Switch operation in Value If add multiple conditions that met to execute Action, and not making separate Case for every result and have same script just for different Case. |
| 12:18.23 | EmperorZolden | Otixa do you understand what kingTD says? my english isn't good enough |
| 12:18.56 | Otixa | EmperorZolden, it's not your english ;p |
| 12:19.00 | kingTD | :] |
| 12:19.06 | kingTD | fuck it then |
| 12:19.08 | Otixa | Makes no sense to me either ;p |
| 12:26.09 | Otixa | bah |
| 12:26.16 | Otixa | rack mounted hardware is fucking expensive |
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| 13:17.56 | Ownage | hmm, trying to think of a better way to protect banks |
| 13:18.12 | Ownage | it's quite easy to hack them as is |
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| 13:25.59 | kingTD | EMPEROR!!!! WHERE ARE YOU!!?!?! |
| 13:27.04 | Zolden | something temporarily deemperarised me |
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| 14:00.07 | Zolden | Kuekenis |
| 14:10.26 | Dustin | Morning gentleman |
| 14:12.46 | G0A | Hey Zolden you know Commonwealth saga? |
| 14:13.03 | G0A | books* |
| 14:17.21 | Zolden | who's author? |
| 14:18.02 | Zolden | Dustin evening noob |
| 14:18.07 | Zolden | join my bad manners school |
| 14:22.32 | Dustin | Oh sorry, I mean, Morning fuck faces! |
| 14:23.20 | Zolden | Dustin you just got A, good job boy, proud of you |
| 14:26.05 | Dustin | This is the best school ever! |
| 14:44.45 | Zolden | so, unlike it was before, int[10] now creates 0..9 elements? |
| 14:48.50 | Dustin | it should make 0-10 |
| 14:49.08 | Dustin | You verified that's what it's making? |
| 14:49.26 | Zolden | yes and yes |
| 14:49.32 | Zolden | so, probably they changed it |
| 14:51.27 | Dustin | Why the fuck would they make that change at this point |
| 14:51.32 | Dustin | That's going to fuck a lot of people |
| 14:51.38 | Dustin | =/ |
| 14:52.08 | Zolden | i remember someone have complained about it |
| 14:52.17 | Zolden | or about something similar |
| 14:52.33 | Zolden | but if they would change it, it should have impact more ppl |
| 14:52.47 | Zolden | but i haven't heard complains |
| 14:52.55 | Zolden | so, maybe it's my code? |
| 14:53.00 | Dustin | For real, that's going to be a lot of unallocated mem errors |
| 14:53.11 | Dustin | im testing right now |
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| 14:53.54 | Zolden | yea, test it |
| 14:54.25 | Zolden | I just noticed, that if you create 10 element array in gui, they put int[11] in the code |
| 14:54.32 | Zolden | and my ode seems fine |
| 14:55.52 | Zolden | all like int[10] a; i = 1; while (i <= 10){a[i] shit; i += 1;} |
| 14:56.29 | Dustin | ya it's working right |
| 14:57.17 | Dustin | https://pastee.org/n4zbe |
| 14:58.41 | Zolden | u see, int[11] |
| 14:58.48 | Zolden | and you only accessed [10] |
| 14:59.05 | Dustin | int[10] is the 11th position |
| 14:59.09 | Dustin | 0-10 |
| 15:00.02 | Zolden | and it's exactly what I mean! you have int[11] array, and it would allow to access array[11] element, but now it doesn't |
| 15:00.09 | Dustin | no |
| 15:00.15 | Dustin | int[11] is 0-10 |
| 15:00.25 | Dustin | 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 |
| 15:00.26 | Zolden | int[x] used to create 0..x elements, an now it's 0..x-1 |
| 15:00.49 | Zolden | yea, it's how it now and how in c |
| 15:00.50 | Dustin | In GUI int[11] would allow you to do up to 11 |
| 15:01.04 | Zolden | i'm not talking about gui |
| 15:01.07 | Dustin | but in actual code it would allow you 10 |
| 15:01.30 | Dustin | It never was like that in code |
| 15:01.54 | Zolden | i believe it was |
| 15:01.55 | Dustin | it's always been the normal for programming languages to allocate with 0 included in the max |
| 15:02.11 | Dustin | No because that's why GUI adds 1 to what you define in the code |
| 15:02.20 | Dustin | To compensate for that |
| 15:02.29 | Zolden | it was like i said, a bit more gay than normal, but i got used to it, and now it gives me shitty error |
| 15:05.36 | Dustin | [09:56] <Zolden> all like int[10] a; i = 1; while (i <= 10){a[i] shit; i += 1;} <-- That will not work because you're trying to access int[10] when you only have max int[9] |
| 15:06.51 | Dustin | hmmm |
| 15:07.10 | Dustin | Im looking around for references to how it worked before |
| 15:07.59 | Zolden | yes, I got that *now* it won't work |
| 15:08.07 | Zolden | but it worked before the summer patch |
| 15:09.20 | Dustin | That's weird, I thought it was like this from the start. but i dont do much with script |
| 15:09.22 | Zolden | i'm sure, most ppl didn't even know about that last element, because they used it like in c, but i knew about it, and used it |
| 15:15.07 | Ahli | the last element stuff in GUI might have been there forever... at least it's there for a long time |
| 15:15.31 | Ahli | but what Zolden said made nobody notice it until someone here noticed that |
| 15:15.40 | Ahli | but that was a long time ago |
| 15:20.04 | Dustin | i know for a fact the GUI has been this way since the start, but the script, that could be different, JademusSreg would probably know for sure |
| 15:20.32 | Dustin | If they did change it, they should have probably told us =/ |
| 15:29.44 | A1win | I don't think they've changed it |
| 15:31.59 | A1win | as far as I know, the GUI just makes arrays 1 larger than it should, otherwise it follows the standard |
| 15:32.02 | kingTD | have to agree with dustin |
| 15:33.15 | A1win | GUI has done that since beta, and I'm pretty sure the script has always used the standard way |
| 15:33.25 | A1win | (wol beta) |
| 15:36.52 | Ahli | oh god, I bugged all light overlay effect things in hearthstone |
| 15:39.17 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/fJtxW.jpg |
| 15:40.03 | Dustin | lol thats awesome ahli |
| 15:40.28 | Ahli | when it's my turn I can't see anything... attacking the enemy is cool, too... which red thing do I attack |
| 15:42.12 | Ahli | I was tabbed out until I got into the map choosing thing |
| 15:48.37 | G0A | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:55.53 | Dustin | Man, these pathing display linesa re way to short in max length =/ |
| 15:57.29 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:57.41 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.28 | Zolden | eglz you want your missile to bounce from cliffs? |
| 16:02.34 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:02.51 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:08.02 | Dustin | I remember seeing a bunch of stuff about bouncing in the data editor, there should be some support for it |
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| 16:11.44 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.21 | Zolden | G0A is it like in orwell's book? |
| 16:16.21 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:22.16 | Zolden | eglz i never heard we can bounce with correct andgel with data |
| 16:22.29 | Zolden | but you don't have to go hardcore data |
| 16:28.36 | Ahli | bounce is a flag in a unit |
| 16:28.57 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:28.57 | Ahli | used by mutalisk glaive worm I think... |
| 16:29.09 | Ahli | I've no idea what it does |
| 16:29.17 | Ahli | if it is even doing something |
| 16:29.44 | eglz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:37.39 | kingTD | Zolden is there anyway to make Model to use Models Walk Animation Speed and would ignore the Actor field where you can adjust the walk animation speed? |
| 16:38.36 | kingTD | feels now like all the work done trying to adjust animation speed in Cutscene editor before exporting is waste.. as you still have to make new adjustements again to walk animation look smooth |
| 16:39.38 | Zolden | model doesn't have walk animation speed, it only has all animations speed multiplier, while actor only affects walk |
| 16:41.47 | kingTD | there is setting in Startools Anmiations the Move speed. |
| 16:45.57 | kingTD | hmm some people on NA already showing up for mapnight.......... |
| 16:50.40 | kingTD | New Minecraft update that adds a lot of shit |
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| 17:08.43 | Zolden | kingTD i never used startools walk speed parameter |
| 17:09.00 | Zolden | because there's actor one |
| 17:09.33 | kingTD | yeah it seems useless thing. unless playing with models in cutscene is useful |
| 17:12.31 | kingTD | bugged... Add Unit in every data tab.. |
| 17:22.48 | Stewox | everyone should check out offtopic section on sc2mapster forums :P |
| 17:22.52 | Stewox | right about now |
| 17:23.00 | Stewox | can't talk more here :8 |
| 17:26.52 | kingTD | you remind me one important thing |
| 17:28.43 | kingTD | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7pfyIQqNR8 |
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| 17:33.37 | Fate_ | so |
| 17:33.49 | Fate_ | anyone ever made a ai for a rts map? |
| 17:40.35 | kingTD | Fate_ Age of Knights |
| 17:41.12 | Fate_ | did u use the normal ai editor or triggers? |
| 17:41.18 | Fate_ | or both? |
| 17:41.19 | kingTD | triggers |
| 17:42.24 | kingTD | normal AI mess ups the gathering. as it gathers by 1 resource, other workers priorities to gather. Most of the reasoning why used triggers |
| 17:43.12 | Fate_ | yeah my idea was to use triggers to |
| 17:43.25 | Fate_ | since i have no idea how that ai editor works |
| 17:46.05 | G0A | Stewox grats for spaming offtopic with another retarded info wars link... http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/58961-leaked-video-fema-prepares-for-gun-confiscation-martial/#p2 |
| 17:47.59 | Bommes | fate_: ai editor as far as I know is the same as using the AI related trigger functions, the only difference is that the AI Editor provides some kind of UI to do that. |
| 17:48.07 | Bommes | *GUI I mean |
| 17:48.21 | Fate_ | AH |
| 17:48.27 | Fate_ | i mean ah |
| 17:49.28 | kingTD | Fate_ I mean the Pure triggers actions. Not using the blizz programmed Ai functions at all |
| 17:49.47 | Fate_ | yep |
| 17:51.55 | Stewox | g0a troll |
| 17:52.31 | Stewox | im making my map, not going to talk about it here |
| 17:53.52 | kingTD | Zolden http://snag.gy/Sif9D.jpg |
| 17:54.44 | G0A | good |
| 17:55.59 | G0A | We always knew that Hitler loves Dota |
| 18:05.21 | Zolden | kingTD what part of this screen should tell me anything? |
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| 18:52.48 | Ownage | for some reason 3 of my units are showing "too many abilities" error |
| 18:53.05 | Ownage | however they have the same amount as every other unit, and it's much less than 32 |
| 18:55.23 | ArcanePariah | The total abilites counts any other unit the unit can morph in to |
| 18:55.36 | Ownage | it can't morph into anything |
| 18:55.47 | Ownage | and it has the same exact spells as about 200 other units |
| 18:56.06 | Ownage | except it has guardian shield instead of any other kind of spell |
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| 19:05.17 | MoonEater | hi guys |
| 19:18.16 | MoonEater | ~seen JademusSreg |
| 19:18.21 | purl | jademussreg is currently on #sc2mapster (5d 8h 4m 20s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 10h 20m 36s, last said: 'And now, nap time.'. |
| 19:18.47 | MoonEater | JADE WAKE UP! |
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| 19:37.45 | Fate_ | is there a way to make the game start via test with ai players? |
| 19:43.20 | kingTD | no longer |
| 19:43.58 | Fate_ | there was? and is no longer? why is that? |
| 19:45.16 | Zolden | maybe he meant length of something relatively to something else |
| 19:45.39 | Fate_ | XD |
| 19:48.49 | kingTD | well blizz disabled it since people could play single player that way |
| 19:49.04 | Fate_ | ah come on |
| 19:49.10 | Fate_ | fuck u blizzard |
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| 19:54.40 | kingTD | blizzcon????!!?!?! |
| 19:55.00 | kingTD | 2 weeks still |
| 20:10.37 | Zolden | "2 weeks"? it's a quote from total recall |
| 20:10.52 | kingTD | <<<.<<< |
| 20:11.05 | kingTD | >>,>> |
| 20:11.12 | kingTD | ^,% |
| 20:11.17 | kingTD | \o/ |
| 20:11.43 | Zolden | (.Y.) |
| 20:17.59 | Otixa | Settle down, children |
| 20:26.21 | kingTD | YOURENOTMYMOTHER!!!!! |
| 20:37.01 | Fate_ | kingTD how did u order your ai to make units? |
| 20:37.30 | kingTD | train ability |
| 20:37.51 | Fate_ | yeah i could gues that much :) |
| 20:38.18 | Fate_ | periodic event? |
| 20:38.25 | Fate_ | or sth else? |
| 20:39.15 | kingTD | if im remember it correctly it is a periodic actions. Just spaming low tech units. and Not teching up. Will need tomorrow update it |
| 20:39.27 | Fate_ | XD |
| 20:39.30 | MoonEater | :P |
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| 20:57.34 | MoonEater | yo stewox |
| 20:58.02 | Stewox | javol |
| 21:35.48 | Fate_ | i have no clue how that ai commands work |
| 21:37.00 | Zolden | just imitate human with triggers |
| 21:37.14 | Fate_ | :P |
| 21:37.49 | kingTD | US map night? |
| 21:37.59 | kingTD | plus published shitty version of my new map |
| 21:38.20 | Fate_ | is now mapnight? |
| 21:38.24 | Zolden | i need 10-20 minutes more to mapmake, then i'll come |
| 21:39.37 | kingTD | yes |
| 21:39.38 | kingTD | googogogo |
| 21:39.42 | kingTD | at least one somebody |
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| 21:52.56 | Zolden | nice |
| 21:53.03 | Zolden | finally a day of coding |
| 21:53.12 | Zolden | feels so much better than the lame data |
| 21:53.49 | Zolden | brain worked |
| 21:55.26 | Fate_ | so whats with map night now? |
| 22:02.25 | Zolden | anyone has maps to test? |
| 22:02.34 | Zolden | Otixa go test your map |
| 22:03.04 | Fate_ | whats with that map ur making the models for zolden? |
| 22:03.41 | Zolden | it will be something like squad td, but with more gameplay elemets |
| 22:03.57 | Zolden | there will be more resources, scouting, building mines, maybe a bit map control |
| 22:04.16 | Zolden | a bit different system of builders |
| 22:04.48 | Zolden | but it won't be ready within 2 weeks |
| 22:05.24 | Zolden | i can't come to youtube |
| 22:05.28 | Zolden | is it broken? |
| 22:06.00 | Fate_ | mine works |
| 22:06.53 | Zolden | omg |
| 22:07.03 | Zolden | not asian looking guy in finals |
| 22:10.05 | kingTD | zolden if you come |
| 22:11.49 | Zolden | Fate_ ciome |
| 22:11.52 | Zolden | we're about to |
| 22:20.35 | Otixa | what. |
| 22:20.43 | Otixa | I don't have a map |
| 22:28.54 | ArcanePariah | Fate_: If you want, I can walk you through the part needed for the AI to do its own commands, without triggers |
| 22:29.20 | Fate_ | i am now in mapnight^^ |
| 22:29.28 | ArcanePariah | Ahh, then let me join you all |
| 22:31.02 | ArcanePariah | Send me link to group? |
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| 22:42.57 | Serashin | l4 some sick mapmaker |
| 22:46.39 | MoonEater | ? |
| 22:53.00 | MoonEater | Serashin |
| 22:53.18 | Serashin | yo |
| 22:54.41 | Serashin | Got some older KRn mapfile , wich is kind of clean arranged . But i got no clue of triggers . some stuff is english . But im unable to find were the param / value related text is "fixable" , or dialog is changeable / addable english translation |
| 22:55.00 | Serashin | because if you change client to KR . it wont show param / value |
| 22:55.28 | MoonEater | oh ur korean |
| 22:55.58 | MoonEater | i could get a translator |
| 22:56.02 | MoonEater | but it wont be much help |
| 22:56.06 | Serashin | I am not Korean ^^ , i cant even speak it . But the map has english US and EU translations . but somehow theres still param / value |
| 22:56.20 | MoonEater | oh |
| 22:56.40 | MoonEater | so ur trying to change it all to english? |
| 22:56.49 | MoonEater | and fix broken text? |
| 22:56.58 | Serashin | kind of , so english users dont have the param / value and a propper display. |
| 22:57.31 | MoonEater | what language u trying to fix? |
| 22:57.38 | Serashin | i plan to change allot about that very outdated and not really hosted mapa nymore . i can work with data . but triggers is way way out of my league. |
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| 22:58.02 | AndChat-271284 | where did u get this map from? |
| 22:58.33 | Serashin | 6http://www.playxp.com/sc2/galaxy/freeboard/view.php?article_id=4160454 |
| 22:58.44 | Serashin | it used to be page 1 top 3 map for very long time span |
| 22:58.57 | Serashin | Its split into 3 parts |
| 22:59.03 | Serashin | 1 part i cannot even open |
| 22:59.16 | mooneater2 | Well |
| 22:59.37 | mooneater2 | Go to asset modual I bealibe its called |
| 22:59.46 | mooneater2 | U can change all text there |
| 22:59.56 | mooneater2 | So broken ones u can find and fix |
| 23:00.05 | Serashin | The thing is |
| 23:00.41 | Serashin | in KR its not param / value displayed but propper . so i dont believe " broken kind of fix" doesnt apply here more of a translation line missing |
| 23:01.15 | mooneater2 | Yes I understand that. |
| 23:01.21 | mooneater2 | These a text modual |
| 23:01.36 | Serashin | U mean |
| 23:01.36 | mooneater2 | Open it and go through all the custom |
| 23:02.10 | mooneater2 | ? |
| 23:02.11 | Serashin | in map and languageare thingys , were u can click on languages in boxes ? cause i tried that earlier |
| 23:02.15 | Serashin | to simply remove KR |
| 23:02.18 | Serashin | but didnt work out. |
| 23:02.23 | mooneater2 | Nono |
| 23:02.34 | mooneater2 | There's an area which lists all text |
| 23:03.05 | mooneater2 | Set the editor to the broken region and go down this list and locate the messed up affected text |
| 23:05.25 | MoonEater | its f8 |
| 23:05.28 | MoonEater | press f8 |
| 23:05.57 | Serashin | sec i will open the file again in a sec . just annoying this file |
| 23:05.58 | Serashin | it has |
| 23:06.01 | Serashin | dependency |
| 23:06.03 | Serashin | left 2 die mod |
| 23:06.08 | Serashin | requires me always to log off ingame |
| 23:06.17 | Serashin | and if i remove that dependency |
| 23:06.22 | Serashin | all data gets messed up |
| 23:06.25 | Serashin | and game doesnt work anymore |
| 23:06.31 | MoonEater | thats what dependacy's do |
| 23:07.48 | Serashin | Yes i know that |
| 23:08.12 | Serashin | but its kind of confusing that this dependency is the only one that requires you everytime to log in in the editor |
| 23:08.20 | Serashin | Feels for a unexperienced mapmaker as myself |
| 23:08.21 | Serashin | Weird |
| 23:08.25 | Serashin | As of why |
| 23:08.58 | MoonEater | its a custom one |
| 23:09.03 | MoonEater | custom dependancy |
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| 23:13.51 | Otixa | Zolden |
| 23:14.38 | Serashin | Ok , i am now in the f 8 section . But im confused |
| 23:14.57 | MoonEater | go down the list in the broken language |
| 23:15.02 | MoonEater | and u can fix it |
| 23:15.09 | Serashin | Im in the Data of the map itself aka not standard , or campagin and theres nothing listed |
| 23:15.29 | MoonEater | custom |
| 23:15.38 | MoonEater | data source should be the name of the map |
| 23:15.46 | MoonEater | then u find the broken ids |
| 23:16.32 | Serashin | Yes i know custom stuff , should be listed in that section . kind of a filter . But theres nothing thats what is confusing |
| 23:16.47 | Serashin | Also the text is trigger related / dialog related |
| 23:16.56 | Serashin | im still correct with your f8 approach then ? |
| 23:17.44 | MoonEater | ya |
| 23:17.47 | MoonEater | everythign is there |
| 23:17.50 | MoonEater | anything ever writen |
| 23:17.52 | MoonEater | is there |
| 23:17.59 | MoonEater | or maybe |
| 23:18.03 | MoonEater | the issue is it isnt there |
| 23:18.32 | Serashin | The question left is then . How come KR language has proper language displayed then while other languages are left with param / value ? |
| 23:18.46 | Serashin | The map had a more recent version with those same stuff |
| 23:18.49 | Serashin | working in english |
| 23:18.55 | Serashin | but i dont have acces to that file |
| 23:19.30 | MoonEater | not sure |
| 23:19.37 | MoonEater | i havent messed with language too much |
| 23:21.12 | Serashin | But as i said some stuff is even in english in triggers . The full achievement names and tooltips are even written out in full english . and i stumbled over something dialog whise editable wich was not usefull for me as that dialog itself is not what matters for me to fix |
| 23:21.23 | Serashin | but For every of those triggers sucha a butt should exist |
| 23:21.44 | Serashin | I kept trying and trying and trying to find it . But always when i clicked on it there was something validator or something like that |
| 23:22.03 | Serashin | Wich leaves me kinda helpless here in search for help |
| 23:23.37 | Zolden | Otixa yea? |
| 23:24.05 | Otixa | Zolden, host an event |
| 23:24.17 | Otixa | Modeling night thingy |
| 23:24.18 | Otixa | whatever |
| 23:24.21 | Otixa | will be fun |
| 23:24.30 | MoonEater | sucker punches Otixa |
| 23:24.39 | Zolden | yea, you and me, and also Triceron and twod |
| 23:24.46 | Otixa | crushes MoonEater into dust |
| 23:24.47 | MoonEater | what about meh? |
| 23:25.01 | Otixa | Zolden, there's other peeps on mapster forums |
| 23:25.04 | Otixa | Could be fun |
| 23:25.07 | Otixa | We can make pretty shit |
| 23:25.14 | Otixa | And teach the noobs a thing or two |
| 23:25.38 | Otixa | can even do livestreams of the workflows |
| 23:25.45 | Zolden | something like weekly "make a shit" shit? |
| 23:26.04 | Otixa | dunno about weekly |
| 23:26.10 | Fate_ | hey |
| 23:26.10 | Zolden | monthly |
| 23:26.12 | Otixa | was thinking more of a one time deal |
| 23:26.17 | Fate_ | where are all u guys? |
| 23:26.18 | Otixa | but that could work, I guess |
| 23:26.26 | Otixa | monthly seems more reasonable |
| 23:26.31 | Fate_ | its now my maps turn dam |
| 23:26.32 | Zolden | ok, make a box and stream it |
| 23:26.50 | Otixa | hehe |
| 23:26.56 | Otixa | seriously tho |
| 23:27.07 | Otixa | like, we vote on a topic |
| 23:27.27 | Otixa | and a day after voting closes, we all start working |
| 23:27.35 | Zolden | ok, we need a thread with "hey, noobs, what do you wnat to learn" first |
| 23:27.43 | Otixa | like... 2-3 hours per session |
| 23:27.52 | Otixa | well, make it happen |
| 23:28.03 | Zolden | so, it's not only learn, also produce models ppl need? |
| 23:28.04 | Otixa | I'm just the shadow whispering ideas in your ear ;p |
| 23:28.05 | MoonEater | Zolden |
| 23:28.08 | Otixa | sure |
| 23:28.11 | MoonEater | unlock my team |
| 23:28.14 | MoonEater | u nub |
| 23:28.22 | Otixa | as long as it doesn't involve me making characters |
| 23:28.27 | Otixa | I'm fucking terrible at that |
| 23:28.44 | Zolden | no one asks to make characters, it's too much work |
| 23:28.56 | Otixa | props/weapons/environments |
| 23:29.01 | Otixa | random doodads |
| 23:29.09 | Zolden | they need simple things like flag, gun plane, beam |
| 23:29.33 | MoonEater | whats the point zolden, Otixa... bommes is going to win |
| 23:29.39 | MoonEater | how do u compete with carbot? |
| 23:29.53 | Otixa | carbot does 3d? ;p |
| 23:30.06 | Otixa | pretty sure I'd win |
| 23:30.09 | Fate_ | Zolden come play my map |
| 23:30.10 | Zolden | :) |
| 23:30.12 | Otixa | But it's not intended as a competition |
| 23:30.16 | Otixa | more like a workshop |
| 23:30.16 | MoonEater | Bomes in 2 days got 50k views |
| 23:30.17 | MoonEater | for |
| 23:30.21 | MoonEater | carbot moddel |
| 23:30.26 | Otixa | show me |
| 23:30.29 | Zolden | Fate_ i'm sick of your shitty maps, played two and BORED TO HELL |
| 23:30.44 | Fate_ | T_T |
| 23:30.51 | Otixa | hah |
| 23:31.01 | Zolden | Otixa haven't you seen waht bommes did to carbot marine and ling? |
| 23:31.02 | Serashin | Next lvl motivation |
| 23:31.02 | Otixa | Zolden is spending too much time talking to me ;p |
| 23:31.09 | Otixa | no |
| 23:31.12 | MoonEater | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKvX3a2J86s |
| 23:31.18 | Serashin | Dat backfired Zolden |
| 23:31.28 | Zolden | Fate, i'll play next time your map, just now i realy can't tolerate funmaps |
| 23:31.30 | Otixa | yeah, that's not 3D |
| 23:31.30 | Emo_FAte | Zolden how can u say |
| 23:31.33 | Emo_FAte | that |
| 23:31.36 | MoonEater | funny thing is that those zerglings are sprites i made |
| 23:31.50 | Zolden | Fate don't worry, your map rocks |
| 23:31.52 | Zolden | it's just me |
| 23:32.04 | MoonEater | Zolden, what do u mean by fun maps? |
| 23:32.31 | Otixa | punches MoonEater in the face |
| 23:32.32 | Zolden | MoonEater you sold the idea for nothing, now they will make fun stuff over your head |
| 23:32.44 | MoonEater | I KNOW RIGHT?! |
| 23:32.48 | MoonEater | naw its cool |
| 23:32.51 | Zolden | fun map means noob sad map we arcade full of |
| 23:32.57 | Otixa | mapping sprites on a plane isn't modeling |
| 23:32.57 | MoonEater | monday i plan to release my full concept video |
| 23:33.03 | Otixa | it's being a tard |
| 23:33.12 | MoonEater | they arnt a plane |
| 23:33.12 | Otixa | and using the wrong tool for the job |
| 23:33.14 | MoonEater | its a model |
| 23:33.24 | MoonEater | no actor texture swapping |
| 23:33.29 | Otixa | a model... of a plane? ;p |
| 23:33.39 | Serashin | Actually Fates map is shit xD |
| 23:33.43 | Serashin | No need to sweettalk |
| 23:34.11 | Zolden | Serashin it's fun |
| 23:34.18 | Zolden | no need to shittalk |
| 23:34.26 | MoonEater | says the shit talker |
| 23:34.46 | Otixa | you're all retarded |
| 23:34.47 | Serashin | Lmao , been playing 3 games with masters and yeah, Fulla´s review was spot on about the design |
| 23:34.47 | Otixa | anyway |
| 23:34.50 | Otixa | Zolden, make it happen |
| 23:34.52 | Zolden | ok |
| 23:35.02 | Zolden | i'll make a thread |
| 23:35.04 | MoonEater | ZOLDEN |
| 23:35.07 | Otixa | ;> |
| 23:35.08 | MoonEater | APPROVE MY DAMN TEAM |
| 23:35.15 | MoonEater | YA NUBBLE! |
| 23:35.16 | Otixa | drop me a link when yer done |
| 23:35.17 | Serashin | click on control point > sit there defend it if you have more you win |
| 23:35.18 | Serashin | gz |
| 23:36.09 | Otixa | punches Serashin |
| 23:36.18 | Serashin | punches himself |
| 23:36.22 | MoonEater | kicks Serashin |
| 23:36.28 | Serashin | has no effect cause im to boss |
| 23:36.37 | Otixa | No, yer a twerp |
| 23:36.47 | Otixa | also, "too" |
| 23:37.00 | Otixa | Only I get to be an obnoxious cunt around here |
| 23:37.11 | MoonEater | no |
| 23:37.15 | MoonEater | thats stewox |
| 23:37.20 | MoonEater | but good attempt |
| 23:37.24 | MoonEater | second place for effort |
| 23:37.27 | Serashin | That is like some serius bsns anarchy defense right there. |
| 23:37.49 | Otixa | True ;p |
| 23:37.57 | Otixa | But he's gone now anyway |
| 23:38.04 | MoonEater | no |
| 23:38.07 | MoonEater | hes here |
| 23:38.09 | MoonEater | in chat |
| 23:38.11 | Stewox | summoned ? |
| 23:38.16 | MoonEater | see? |
| 23:38.17 | Otixa | Well, he's not talking |
| 23:38.20 | Otixa | oh ffs |
| 23:38.24 | MoonEater | naw im just teasing u stewox |
| 23:38.26 | Otixa | Stewox, fuck off |
| 23:38.35 | Stewox | what's going on ? |
| 23:38.46 | MoonEater | falcon testical shots otixa |
| 23:38.49 | Otixa | just go the fuck away |
| 23:38.50 | Serashin | Also how u compare some skilled player to some guy who thinks theres stuff behind moon |
| 23:38.54 | Stewox | just ended another lesson with my apprentice |
| 23:39.03 | MoonEater | scarry |
| 23:39.13 | Serashin | i bet u compare banana to urangutan - wielding a sandwich on a stick |
| 23:39.37 | MoonEater | i would think the only one here qualified to take an apprentice is jade, and no one whats todo that |
| 23:39.47 | Otixa | Zolden, make sure these tards are not invited >;/ |
| 23:40.01 | Otixa | MoonEater, false |
| 23:40.04 | Stewox | what is the problem otixa ? |
| 23:40.07 | MoonEater | Just for that otixa,,, ima make a glass vase |
| 23:40.08 | Otixa | I'm actually the only one -qualified- |
| 23:40.12 | MoonEater | and submit it |
| 23:40.46 | Otixa | hurr |
| 23:41.38 | Stewox | i've actually found the book i was trying to get in my country |
| 23:41.55 | Stewox | found they had 2 copies, in another city |
| 23:42.00 | Stewox | finally arrived today |
| 23:42.02 | Otixa | MoonEater, this one is on you >;/ |
| 23:42.17 | Stewox | not sure if i mentioned that to you mooneater or the other guy |
| 23:42.23 | Stewox | must be mixing nicknames lol |
| 23:42.51 | Stewox | i think it was goa or who |
| 23:42.54 | Stewox | in forums |
| 23:43.02 | MoonEater | Otixa,the difference between me and you is i dont mind Stewox like the rest of u do. he can talk all he wants and i encourage it, while you, Otixa suffer and roll into a pathetic ball |
| 23:43.26 | MoonEater | Stewox, what book? |
| 23:43.28 | Otixa | So you're both retards |
| 23:43.31 | Otixa | Congratulations |
| 23:43.47 | MoonEater | ur spineless and nutless, grow some |
| 23:43.53 | Stewox | maybe he just think's he's smarter than everyone else |
| 23:43.54 | MoonEater | hairless i ebt 2 |
| 23:43.59 | Stewox | and has a huge ego |
| 23:44.00 | MoonEater | naw |
| 23:44.05 | MoonEater | we all ego maniacs here |
| 23:44.13 | Stewox | like many people in the world |
| 23:44.17 | Otixa | Mostly because I am ;p |
| 23:44.42 | MoonEater | Stewox, what book |
| 23:44.48 | Serashin | Ppl without egos are busy doing their 1€ jobs . so yeah they dont have time to go online |
| 23:44.54 | Serashin | so basicly trash |
| 23:44.57 | Serashin | have fun fighting |
| 23:45.00 | Stewox | but why not compare your self to people which done something actually good in this world |
| 23:45.24 | Stewox | Humans Get off Your Knees, mooneater |
| 23:45.33 | Stewox | long title |
| 23:45.44 | MoonEater | i getting book 6 of the hitchikers guide the galaxy |
| 23:46.00 | MoonEater | its called one last thing |
| 23:46.56 | Stewox | it's here on amazon if you want to buy it http://www.amazon.com/Human-Race-Get-Your-Knees/dp/0955997313 , cheap |
| 23:47.22 | MoonEater | i like my funny fantasies |
| 23:47.29 | MoonEater | and scis |
| 23:47.50 | Stewox | I hope i can get it extended more than 3 weeks |
| 23:47.55 | Stewox | it's long as heck |
| 23:47.56 | Serashin | Dude , if i want to buy something it woulda be ping poing without bat . thats truely awesome . Stewox needs to be added in addblocker list |
| 23:48.52 | MoonEater | Serashin, way to butt in like a douche man. chill out |
| 23:49.17 | MoonEater | XD |
| 23:49.31 | Stewox | serashin if I don't have a choice to fight them, i don't really care what I'm doing, as long as I'm now working for the nwo |
| 23:50.05 | Stewox | you guys probably have jobs, im still yound, if I were you, i would go from company and company and snoop for corruption and expose it |
| 23:50.11 | Stewox | young* |
| 23:50.41 | Stewox | for example, i would go to work for EA, but i wouldn't really care much about other than finding something to expose and leak haha :p |
| 23:50.50 | Zolden | Otixa http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/58972-modelling-event/?post=1 |
| 23:50.53 | MoonEater | not u 2... |
| 23:51.08 | Serashin | U just cant handle my king shouting . Wich translates into your jellyness of my powah . Im just speaking mad truth . Theres a reason why arcade maps and popularity gets more and more downhill . Cause the shits in here fail to create something entertaining that makes ppl keep want to play it. |
| 23:52.26 | Stewox | i don't think he sees my msgs hm mooneater ? |
| 23:52.26 | Otixa | Zolden, goodie, Less typos tho |
| 23:52.46 | MoonEater | Stewox who knows, i wouldnt care much if i were u |
| 23:52.47 | Otixa | Prolly needs some sort of banner graphic for extra shiny |
| 23:53.03 | Otixa | Will look into it after I finish watching my show |
| 23:54.57 | Stewox | otixa you look like a good choice for a civil conversation don't you |
| 23:55.05 | Stewox | I would love you let throw all you got at me |
| 23:55.18 | Stewox | but I can't be in the main chat |
| 23:55.33 | Stewox | or else Thor's hammer falls down |
| 23:55.34 | Zolden | i'll add a pic |
| 23:55.37 | Otixa | Eh? |
| 23:55.44 | Otixa | Zolden, I'll do it later |
| 23:56.25 | Stewox | well you didn't went to the level like dustin |
| 23:56.31 | Stewox | so maybe there's still chance for you |
| 23:56.49 | Otixa | Why would I want to discuss anything with you? |
| 23:57.03 | Otixa | You obviously have a psychological disorder and lack the capacity for reason |
| 23:57.06 | MoonEater | because u 2 r friends |
| 23:57.28 | Otixa | I'm not a charity, nor a psychiatrist |
| 23:57.38 | MoonEater | u have the "beat them up cause you love them" syndrom and ur too tough to admit it |
| 23:57.56 | Otixa | I have little free time as it is, I'm not wasting it on you |
| 23:58.06 | Stewox | idk, you feel like you want to express your self so let it go, i won't take it like arguing, and then i'll try to have reason like you requested |
| 23:58.34 | Stewox | how do you know it would be a waste ? first impressions ... don't mean people can't change |
| 23:58.35 | MoonEater | i agree with stewox on this otixa, u do have repressed feelings that need to get out |
| 23:58.43 | MoonEater | XD |
| 23:58.50 | Serashin | Dat sitting here and keep chatting , while denying worth of existence adding even the worth of your so damn superior time . And still chatting with the shit |
| 23:59.00 | Otixa | Smacking you with something heavy might help, yeah |
| 23:59.02 | Serashin | Cool wall of delusional superiority |
| 23:59.09 | MoonEater | AHAHA |
| 23:59.18 | MoonEater | Serashin, ROTG |
| 23:59.20 | MoonEater | ROTF |
| 23:59.23 | Otixa | Now stop highlighting me |
| 23:59.36 | Otixa | Serashin, and you're so superior, eh? ;p |
| 23:59.38 | MoonEater | you mean saying Otixa? |
| 23:59.40 | Stewox | well i didn't exactly planned it would go that crazy as it did, so i don't want to talk to 10 people at the same time |
