| 00:00.05 | Triceron | no way, I'm the real thing. I have memories, clones don't have memories |
| 00:00.23 | Triceron | even though my memory's pretty shit |
| 00:04.00 | ThunderLord | anyone ever had trouble with the lookup time for The Trigger editor Data Table's? |
| 00:04.50 | ThunderLord | i need to know if they are efficient |
| 00:06.18 | Serashin | Clone / Copy reference " Darker then Black" |
| 00:13.44 | ThunderLord | Also, possible to get the duration of an Actor/Model's animation in a trigger? or totally not in the realm of doable things |
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| 01:24.05 | MoonEater | jade |
| 01:24.07 | MoonEater | JADE!!!! |
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| 05:08.12 | MoonEater | hello? |
| 05:08.19 | MoonEater | Otixa |
| 05:08.25 | Otixa | NO >:[ |
| 05:08.28 | MoonEater | DAMN! |
| 05:08.32 | MoonEater | like that? |
| 05:08.33 | Otixa | sup? ;p |
| 05:08.46 | MoonEater | i need to figure out how to prevent an actor from dying |
| 05:08.47 | Otixa | scared the shit out of me |
| 05:08.50 | MoonEater | let me explain more |
| 05:08.53 | MoonEater | XD |
| 05:08.54 | MoonEater | sorry |
| 05:09.00 | Otixa | I know shit about SC2 |
| 05:09.00 | MoonEater | ur the only one i think that cna help |
| 05:09.05 | MoonEater | what... |
| 05:09.07 | MoonEater | u bish! |
| 05:09.10 | MoonEater | :/ |
| 05:09.11 | Otixa | :P |
| 05:09.17 | Otixa | I'm modelling tech support |
| 05:09.30 | MoonEater | shit |
| 05:09.36 | MoonEater | who else can i bugg.. |
| 05:09.38 | MoonEater | A1win |
| 05:10.10 | Otixa | About 3 hours until europe wakes up |
| 05:10.18 | Otixa | (I don't count, I don't sleep) |
| 05:10.30 | MoonEater | damn |
| 05:10.35 | MoonEater | im doing actor intensive shit |
| 05:10.43 | MoonEater | and i need complete tutoring |
| 05:11.15 | Otixa | go grab a coffee, will be a while |
| 05:11.26 | Otixa | And with that, I'm off tro the store :P |
| 05:13.03 | MoonEater | damn |
| 05:13.20 | MoonEater | JADE |
| 05:13.24 | MoonEater | I SUMMON YOU |
| 05:13.39 | MoonEater | slaughter my dog |
| 05:23.38 | Otixa | I IZ BACK |
| 05:23.42 | Otixa | wiff redbullz |
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| 06:22.26 | MoonEater | lol |
| 06:35.54 | MoonEater | Otixa |
| 06:36.15 | Otixa | wot |
| 06:37.36 | MoonEater | i need some models |
| 06:37.39 | MoonEater | will you help me? |
| 06:37.47 | MoonEater | they should be pretty simple |
| 06:38.49 | Otixa | 15bux an hour ;p |
| 06:39.12 | MoonEater | credit on the map |
| 06:39.17 | MoonEater | it should be good |
| 06:39.24 | MoonEater | whana see what i have so far? |
| 06:39.53 | MoonEater | i think it might pursuade u |
| 06:40.19 | Otixa | against my better judgement... fine |
| 06:40.22 | Otixa | show me ;p |
| 06:40.40 | MoonEater | u on NA? |
| 06:41.00 | Otixa | noe |
| 06:41.04 | Otixa | screenshots are fine too |
| 06:41.15 | MoonEater | na |
| 06:41.19 | MoonEater | no justice |
| 06:41.22 | MoonEater | come to NA |
| 06:41.27 | MoonEater | mapster channel |
| 06:41.57 | Otixa | cant now |
| 06:42.03 | MoonEater | sied |
| 06:42.05 | MoonEater | XD |
| 06:42.06 | MoonEater | lies |
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| 06:42.50 | DarkOne | Anyone know why WoW models in SC2 look so dark compared to in WMV? |
| 06:43.14 | Otixa | different shader |
| 06:43.27 | DarkOne | anyway to fix it? |
| 06:43.47 | Otixa | not really |
| 06:44.08 | DarkOne | :( |
| 06:44.31 | Otixa | write a custom shader and integrate it into sc2 ;p |
| 06:46.04 | Otixa | WoW uses a tweaked flat shader |
| 06:47.44 | MoonEater | im sad otixa |
| 06:47.46 | MoonEater | :( |
| 06:47.49 | MoonEater | no testing |
| 06:48.03 | Otixa | hits MoonEater with a brick |
| 06:48.11 | Otixa | busy now |
| 06:48.54 | MoonEater | twitches.... |
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| 07:03.50 | JademusSreg | Zoop |
| 07:07.03 | JademusSreg | Oh, DarkOne, this is why I refer to you by other handles. http://pastebin.com/WpDncUdG |
| 07:08.22 | JademusSreg | Moon, is there an issue? |
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| 07:10.19 | Otixa | gives JademusSreg a coffee drop |
| 07:10.32 | JademusSreg | Hi thar Otixa. |
| 07:10.36 | JademusSreg | Wat's up? |
| 07:10.38 | Otixa | ;) |
| 07:10.46 | Otixa | nm, working on portfolio |
| 07:11.36 | JademusSreg | Anything interesting I'd want to see? |
| 07:13.14 | Otixa | not quite yet |
| 07:13.21 | Otixa | HTML hurhur |
| 07:21.29 | JademusSreg | Should I assume you're using Adobe by default? |
| 07:22.07 | Otixa | Adobe wut? |
| 07:22.13 | Otixa | Photoshop for graphics |
| 07:22.17 | Otixa | Zend for code |
| 07:22.27 | JademusSreg | Ah. =D |
| 07:23.19 | Otixa | Typography is fiddly ;| |
| 07:25.26 | JademusSreg | So Zend for some PHP to serve the hypno-toad mind language pages of portfolio content. Got it. |
| 07:25.54 | Otixa | Yeh, doing the HTML and CSS in Zend too |
| 07:26.03 | Otixa | It does a decent-ish job at it |
| 07:26.05 | Otixa | shrugs |
| 07:26.42 | JademusSreg | Anything beats MS Frontpage, amirite |
| 07:26.44 | Otixa | Would be better with autocomplete for CSS ;p |
| 07:26.46 | Otixa | xD |
| 07:26.51 | Otixa | Do people still use that? |
| 07:26.59 | JademusSreg | I dunno if it still exists. |
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| 07:29.00 | Otixa | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/folio.jpg |
| 07:29.08 | Otixa | still not sure where I'm going with this tbh |
| 07:31.52 | JademusSreg | notices topic asking "Who's going to BlizzCon this year?" and figures it will attend when they extend the invitation, comp the trip, receives the Pylon Award for best performance, and is then hired to consult on their designs. |
| 07:32.50 | Otixa | hurhur |
| 07:32.57 | JademusSreg | I enjoy the *erps. |
| 07:33.10 | JademusSreg | Also, the color palette, hot damn. |
| 07:33.27 | JademusSreg | I want my next suit to be in that palette. |
| 07:33.37 | Otixa | :P |
| 07:33.44 | Otixa | typography is derp ;\ |
| 07:35.50 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 07:36.14 | JademusSreg | I would aim for something suggesting of Faust. |
| 07:37.54 | Otixa | Wut, like a serif font? ;p |
| 07:39.43 | JademusSreg | The essence of the work of literature/theatre. Something that fits with the devil-with-sharp-suit-and-fresh-contract feeling. Something sharp, dangerous, and fit for a legal document. |
| 07:40.03 | JademusSreg | *infernal but respectable legal document. |
| 07:40.06 | JademusSreg | brbi5 |
| 07:40.22 | Otixa | So serif it is then :P |
| 07:40.27 | Otixa | goes to try things out |
| 07:43.40 | Otixa | Hey, that's not too bad ;D |
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| 07:56.15 | JademusSreg | =D |
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| 08:12.53 | Otixa | groans |
| 08:12.55 | Otixa | bored |
| 08:13.33 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 08:13.42 | Bommes | Greetings. |
| 08:13.43 | Otixa | Yarly |
| 08:13.54 | Otixa | Might take a nap ;p |
| 08:14.02 | JademusSreg | I could give you plenty of things-that-interest-me. |
| 08:14.23 | Otixa | Meth? :D |
| 08:14.34 | JademusSreg | Shhh. |
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| 08:52.07 | MoonEater | hihi |
| 09:00.09 | MoonEater | god damn editor |
| 09:00.15 | MoonEater | crashes when i play with terms |
| 09:02.03 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 09:02.23 | JademusSreg | There's a bug. Don't press T; scroll down instead. |
| 09:10.40 | Otixa | eyes |
| 09:10.41 | Otixa | hurt |
| 09:10.44 | Otixa | tired |
| 09:10.45 | Otixa | ;c |
| 09:27.02 | MoonEater | lol |
| 09:27.06 | MoonEater | How did u know?!!? |
| 09:27.07 | MoonEater | XD |
| 09:27.09 | MoonEater | JAde |
| 09:27.15 | MoonEater | ok well im off to bed |
| 09:27.19 | MoonEater | today is a good day |
| 09:28.00 | MoonEater | i made 48 sprites |
| 09:28.33 | MoonEater | 37 tiles in total |
| 09:28.42 | MoonEater | it looks amazing |
| 09:31.08 | kingTD | he gone! We cant communicate now! |
| 09:31.13 | kingTD | *is gone |
| 09:31.16 | kingTD | -=oewr5y |
| 09:31.19 | kingTD | fuck |
| 09:31.27 | kingTD | myy typing skills |
| 09:35.33 | kingTD | http://provenlands.com/ |
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| 10:01.01 | Kueken | oh god |
| 10:01.06 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 10:01.07 | Kueken | flash player update |
| 10:01.13 | Kueken | what do they break this time? |
| 10:01.27 | JademusSreg | All The Newgrounds? |
| 10:01.52 | Kueken | I don't quite get the reference |
| 10:01.57 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 10:01.59 | Otixa | kingTD, seems kinda neat |
| 10:02.02 | Otixa | yours? |
| 10:04.03 | kingTD | no, random project by somebody |
| 10:05.18 | Otixa | Right, sleepybye |
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| 10:16.12 | kingTD | Zolden what you bring us today? |
| 10:16.24 | Zolden | passion |
| 10:16.43 | kingTD | ok, give it now! im lacking it :/ |
| 10:17.28 | Zolden | plays smoke on the water song in reversed direction |
| 10:18.36 | kingTD | head explodes |
| 10:19.19 | Zolden | notices particle effects |
| 10:21.05 | kingTD | http://youtu.be/86PUB4u2s2A |
| 10:22.07 | Bommes | jademussreg: the problem is not hitting 'T', it's the whole Terrain Physics Material At Actor Term |
| 10:22.37 | Bommes | Select it in the GUI and your Editor says goodbye. Just sucks that it's the first term that begins with T... |
| 10:22.41 | JademusSreg | Hah. I was merely recalling the issue encountered by others. |
| 10:23.05 | Bommes | it still works though if used via XML |
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| 11:03.00 | kingTD | . |
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| 13:06.22 | Bommes | is there a basic plane type model that I could retexture in the standard assets? |
| 13:06.56 | Zolden | check latest request thread, i posted one |
| 13:07.18 | Zolden | it uses diffuse rgb as diffuse and diffuse alpha as alpha |
| 13:09.08 | Bommes | ok cool :) thanks |
| 13:09.31 | Bommes | especially good that it has an alpha texture |
| 13:10.04 | Zolden | plane without alpha is like hitler without moustache |
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| 14:40.38 | Fate_ | Zolden or Kueken, can u pls explain me again how i make an attached model play the same animations as the base model? |
| 14:48.33 | Zolden | base model has events that run events like AnimBracketStart Attack Attack |
| 14:48.37 | Zolden | right? |
| 14:50.04 | Fate_ | not only attack |
| 14:50.11 | Fate_ | alot walk |
| 14:50.14 | Fate_ | *also |
| 14:50.41 | Zolden | yea |
| 14:50.53 | Zolden | so, you need to send the same message to the attached actor |
| 14:51.02 | Zolden | from base actor |
| 14:51.46 | Fate_ | what do i have to wiritw as tarrget |
| 14:52.19 | Zolden | attached actor's ID |
| 14:52.24 | Zolden | for example |
| 14:52.44 | Zolden | or alias (you define alias in attached actor's alias field) |
| 14:53.25 | Fate_ | okey |
| 14:56.07 | Zolden | green sky and orange clouds, nice |
| 14:56.17 | Zolden | like last "goodbye" |
| 14:56.27 | Zolden | 5 months of winter ahead |
| 15:02.37 | Fate_ | okey attack animations works, now walk |
| 15:06.06 | Fate_ | hm i dont find a walk animation in the actor events |
| 15:13.55 | Fate_ | how do i make the model play walk animations? |
| 15:15.44 | Zolden | walk start event or something like this |
| 15:16.11 | Zolden | btw, don't forget to send animbracketstop |
| 15:22.02 | Fate_ | dont find anvthing for walk |
| 15:24.44 | Zolden | maybe movement update? |
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| 15:25.59 | Kueken | Fate_: There is a Unit Movement Update event, you could try that |
| 15:26.19 | Fate_ | doing that right now |
| 15:26.31 | Kueken | oh I missed 15 minutes :D |
| 15:26.40 | Kueken | so nvm, was probably said already |
| 15:26.57 | kingTD | morning is here |
| 15:27.24 | Fate_ | okey that does not work |
| 15:38.01 | Fate_ | movement update event also does not make it work -.- |
| 15:38.48 | Kueken | works on my end |
| 15:39.14 | Kueken | https://www.dropbox.com/s/1vqd3ih1xxwj58c/Attachment%20Animation.SC2Map |
| 15:39.19 | Fate_ | ah nvmd |
| 15:39.28 | Fate_ | i typer _actorID |
| 15:39.43 | Fate_ | instead of only actorID^^ |
| 15:39.58 | Fate_ | well it works not thanks u 2 |
| 15:40.32 | Kueken | typo or salty? |
| 15:40.40 | Fate_ | typed |
| 15:42.25 | Fate_ | ah its not working correcly seems like ill take a look at ur demo map .) |
| 15:43.27 | Kueken | it was quickly thrown together, it might not work 100% either |
| 15:45.21 | Fate_ | works nice in your map |
| 15:46.01 | Fate_ | u made a macro |
| 15:49.47 | Kueken | yeah, you don't need a macro, I just use it so I don't have to mess with the unit's events |
| 15:49.55 | Kueken | they are clogged enough |
| 16:35.16 | Zolden | what a luck, had to invent a name for a glass staler unit, and it appeared to be... any guesses? |
| 16:35.42 | Fate_ | it work now thanks u 2 |
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| 16:47.57 | Fate_ | ahh the defiler model has no specular texture -.- |
| 16:48.23 | Zolden | sould fitcher fixed defiler |
| 16:48.33 | Zolden | should be in assets |
| 16:50.43 | Fate_ | ah nice |
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| 17:03.42 | Zolden | duckies guess how I called a glass model of stalker? |
| 17:04.04 | duckies | surprise me |
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| 17:06.29 | Zolden | guess |
| 17:07.31 | Zolden | well, nvm |
| 17:07.36 | Zolden | guess, it's hard to guess |
| 17:07.43 | Zolden | surprized? |
| 17:09.38 | duckies | people never guess things you want them to guess .-. |
| 17:10.08 | Zolden | unless it's hitler asking toguess he declared what to europe |
| 17:10.10 | duckies | unless you go into their conciseness and implant the idea |
| 17:10.20 | duckies | or that |
| 17:10.45 | duckies | "steklorker" hm? :D |
| 17:10.56 | Zolden | close |
| 17:11.05 | Zolden | crystalker |
| 17:11.20 | duckies | ooh, that's good |
| 17:11.27 | Zolden | yea, luck |
| 17:13.58 | Zolden | duckies btw, wanna read a short story i wrote for russian short sci-fi story competition? it's not sci-fi, but may be not so boring |
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| 17:15.08 | duckies | sure, since I've decided to spend this evening relaxing & doing non-mapping things |
| 17:15.31 | Zolden | http://leningrad.su/makod/show_product.php?n=2036 |
| 17:25.41 | duckies | aaw, so sweet |
| 17:25.56 | Zolden | :) |
| 17:26.28 | Zolden | it's senseless, i just wnated to make a dynamical dialog |
| 17:29.47 | duckies | it did end up as a cute comical back and forth. A bit surreal, giving me a feeling that it's a something I'd see on some humorous tv program. |
| 17:30.34 | duckies | but talking cat totaly brought me back to senses assuring that what I was reading was very plausable |
| 17:31.02 | Zolden | ok, your feedback satisfies me |
| 17:31.06 | JademusSreg | Zoop |
| 17:35.25 | Zolden | heard a nice joke: What "B" in Benoit B. Mandelbrot means? "Benoit B. Mandelbrot" |
| 17:42.53 | Zolden | is it solipsistic in here, or is it just me? |
| 17:45.39 | Zolden | "Did you hear about the man who got cooled to absolute zero?" "Hes 0K now". |
| 17:46.47 | Zolden | The programmers wife tells him: "Run to the store and pick up a loaf of bread. If they have eggs, get a dozen." The programmer comes home with 12 loaves of bread. |
| 17:48.27 | Zolden | Kueken A German walks into a bar and asks for a martini. The bartender asks dry?, he replies nein, just one |
| 17:48.37 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:49.06 | Kueken | I feel offended |
| 17:49.25 | Kueken | no german would turn down multiple drinks and take just one instead |
| 17:53.20 | Zolden | The first rule of Tautology club, is the first rule of Tautology club. |
| 17:54.30 | Zolden | ok, now back to the question: how should the final boss look like |
| 17:56.12 | JademusSreg | Deceptive. |
| 17:57.01 | G0A | Zolden you should stick to making maps instead posting bad jokes:D |
| 17:57.26 | Zolden | like in nes games, when you kill one, he turns to be someone else and you have to kill it again? |
| 17:57.42 | G0A | it turns into you |
| 17:57.50 | kingTD | http://www.audiomicro.com/sound-effects |
| 17:57.51 | G0A | or copies you |
| 17:58.27 | Zolden | or maybe a huge interceptor spawning carriers? ;/ |
| 17:58.33 | JademusSreg | Like something eldritch in an inconspicuous, unthreatening form. |
| 17:59.10 | G0A | a unit from multiple attachments and when you kill him you have to kill all the attachments as a separate unit |
| 17:59.11 | JademusSreg | You like kittens, could make it a kitten. |
| 17:59.21 | Zolden | good idea |
| 17:59.34 | Zolden | something harmless |
| 17:59.38 | G0A | zombie kitten |
| 18:00.01 | G0A | zoombie kittens with rainbows |
| 18:00.18 | Zolden | why zombie, it's kitten yet |
| 18:01.54 | Zolden | no kittens in wow :( |
| 18:02.07 | Zolden | sensless motherfuckers |
| 18:02.08 | G0A | zombie schrödinger kitten with rainbows |
| 18:02.18 | Zolden | lol |
| 18:02.30 | Zolden | shredinger kitten is an idea |
| 18:03.15 | G0A | veterans having party at white house: http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-10-13/protesting-veterans-tear-down-dc-barricades-chant-shut-down-white-house |
| 18:03.35 | Zolden | for example, after death a kitten has 50% of chances to die or to create 2 more kittens instead with the same feature |
| 18:05.01 | G0A | loool |
| 18:05.05 | G0A | I like that.D |
| 18:05.32 | G0A | but you should start with 5-10 kittens:D |
| 18:05.39 | Kueken | shreddinger kitten? |
| 18:06.04 | Zolden | yea, i'll start with 100% double for 2-3 iterations |
| 18:06.08 | G0A | you dont have ö on your keyboard?:D |
| 18:06.08 | Zolden | to scare |
| 18:06.23 | Zolden | everyone has ö |
| 18:06.33 | G0A | and ? |
| 18:06.38 | G0A | fuck |
| 18:06.49 | G0A | é |
| 18:06.59 | Zolden | oh, my ö don't work |
| 18:06.59 | kingTD | ž |
| 18:07.05 | Zolden | stupid mirc |
| 18:07.26 | G0A | éáöüó?ú?í |
| 18:07.45 | Zolden | ïåíèñ |
| 18:07.47 | G0A | Ä |
| 18:08.30 | kingTD | фывйпй |
| 18:08.37 | kingTD | ąčęėįšųūž |
| 18:31.51 | Ownage | 您好 |
| 18:31.58 | Ownage | looks like dominos :) |
| 18:32.29 | Zolden | 您好 |
| 18:32.34 | Zolden | 您好 |
| 18:32.58 | Zolden | is it a magic spell? |
| 18:34.04 | JademusSreg | Kueken, can you confirm for me that typically non-missile units launched with launch missile effects are not subject to additional launch missile effects until they've impacted? I'm not certain I recall this correctly. |
| 18:34.23 | Kueken | from my tests, that is correct |
| 18:34.53 | kingTD | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.02 | Kueken | there is Redirect Missile that can affect them in their flight, but that seems to work only once per launch as well |
| 18:35.09 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 18:42.28 | kingTD | http://snag.gy/HzwzF.jpg |
| 18:44.43 | Bommes | http://books.google.de/books?id=CUoEAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PP1&pg=PA97&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q&f=false "The japanese are strangely sentimental and moral about this form of murder." :O |
| 18:46.06 | Zolden | kingTD cmon, add plastic spec |
| 18:46.38 | kingTD | :D |
| 18:47.27 | kingTD | no wow models suck and its pain and waste of time to make it usable as models, if waste time so need to make a lot of changes to models and stuff |
| 18:51.29 | Zolden | where to get a cute kitten model? |
| 18:52.13 | kingTD | cutekittenmodel.zol |
| 18:56.12 | Ownage | Catalog Link Replace and Catalog Reference Set -> what do these do? |
| 19:22.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zandose (Zandose@198-84-210-106.cpe.teksavvy.com) |
| 19:22.31 | Zandose | hi everyone |
| 19:23.45 | Zolden | hi lobochevskiy |
| 19:24.15 | Zandose | haha, very funny.... |
| 19:28.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster ElectricPrism (~Loren@unaffiliated/electricprism) |
| 19:29.15 | Zandose | ready for another question? |
| 19:32.55 | Zolden | yes, but i'm not sure you're ready for answer |
| 19:33.03 | Zandose | i believe you |
| 19:33.12 | Zolden | but who cares, right? |
| 19:33.18 | Zandose | correct |
| 19:33.31 | Zolden | ask then |
| 19:34.14 | Zandose | i was wondering how the game handled shields and weapons impacting them. In the end im wondering if i could do it with triggers |
| 19:34.44 | *** join/#sc2mapster tigger0jk (~tigger0jk@c-71-202-39-119.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:34.58 | Kueken | nice timing xD |
| 19:35.16 | Kueken | "I wonder if I could do it with triggers" -> tigger enters the channel |
| 19:35.24 | Zandose | lol |
| 19:35.26 | Zolden | :) |
| 19:35.51 | Zandose | hi tigger |
| 19:36.09 | Kueken | Zandose: what exactly would you want to do with triggers? prevent specific amounts of damage? |
| 19:36.24 | Zolden | Kueken I'd say he'd be happy with data soultion |
| 19:36.44 | Zolden | and i'd suppose he's talking about shield impact visual |
| 19:37.03 | Kueken | thats what I was wondering |
| 19:37.13 | Zolden | everyone is wondering something |
| 19:37.14 | Zandose | the idea or line of thought is something like this.... I have two ships in space, ship1 fires at ship2, the weapon reaches ship2's shield and plays a impact animation on it. |
| 19:37.20 | Zolden | but where the fuck are wonders? |
| 19:37.23 | Zandose | no data |
| 19:37.28 | Zandose | all triggers |
| 19:39.22 | Zandose | im a hard client to please |
| 19:41.49 | Zandose | just looking for the general idea of how it works so i can start making a trigger for it |
| 19:45.53 | Zandose | does the weapon fired scan the area as it moves for a target/hit or does it use a timer to know when it has reached its target |
| 19:48.31 | Zandose | ok.... |
| 19:49.26 | rtschutter | yo Zolden, I am just getting bright pink squares with this new model |
| 19:51.08 | Ownage | can I change the token unit of an actor in game? |
| 19:52.54 | Zolden | rtschutter ok, sec |
| 19:53.46 | rtschutter | I might be doing something retarded as usual |
| 19:57.21 | Zandose | how fast can triggers update? 0.625, 0.3125, or some other number? |
| 19:58.49 | Zolden | rtschutter check skype, sending you fixed ones |
| 20:26.19 | Bommes | sick last game naniwa vs life |
| 20:29.56 | Kueken | ZandoseAFK: 0.03125 game-time seconds is the fastest possible update rate, accessible only by using a Wait of 0 seconds |
| 20:31.05 | Kueken | however for most intents and purposes, it doesn't make sense to go below 0.0625, because most relevant stuff in the game updates only every 2 ticks |
| 20:47.23 | G0A | omg |
| 20:47.45 | G0A | Zolden you should watch +1 movie |
| 20:49.53 | G0A | its awesome movie, though a bit badly executed. |
| 20:50.22 | Zolden | +1 is it its name? |
| 20:51.05 | G0A | http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/8946502/_1.2013_WEBRip_XViD_juggs |
| 20:51.06 | G0A | yes |
| 20:51.36 | G0A | just watched it |
| 20:51.56 | G0A | if you like scifi, then you will like it:D |
| 20:52.09 | Zolden | alright |
| 20:52.48 | Ownage | how can I get the button clicked when a unit is built |
| 20:53.12 | Ownage | when using any unit creates a unit with ability x, I can't seem to get the command used |
| 20:54.17 | Ownage | in other words if you use build basic building > nexus, I want to get both 'build basic building' ability and 'nexus' button/command |
| 21:01.08 | Kueken | Ownage: EventUnitCreatedAbil() gets you the id of the ability |
| 21:01.20 | Ownage | yeah I get that |
| 21:01.25 | Kueken | as to the command, I don't see a function for that |
| 21:01.26 | Ownage | I want to get the ability command |
| 21:01.29 | Ownage | ok thanks |
| 21:01.41 | Kueken | ask Jade, he might know more |
| 21:02.29 | Kueken | if there is none, you could check the unit id vs the id created my the commands |
| 21:02.38 | Kueken | *by |
| 21:08.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Renee (74e77bb0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.116.231.123.176) |
| 21:09.23 | Renee | Is there a russian editor site? |
| 21:14.08 | Kueken | ask Zolden, he would know |
| 21:14.12 | Ownage | the id created by the command? what do you mean |
| 21:14.31 | Kueken | Ownage: you have access to the created unit, right? |
| 21:14.35 | Kueken | and the ability ID |
| 21:14.54 | Ownage | I'm experimenting with using a single building for all buidings |
| 21:15.02 | Kueken | so you can loop all ability commands for the ability with catalog functions |
| 21:15.06 | Ownage | therefore the unit type of the building means nothing unless I know what command created it |
| 21:15.12 | Kueken | until you get the right id |
| 21:15.44 | Kueken | understand? |
| 21:15.51 | Kueken | or do I need to be more specific? |
| 21:15.59 | Ownage | every command makes the same unit |
| 21:16.58 | Ownage | you're saying iterate the ability commands to see which one creates the building that is there, and I'm saying all of them would match.. I'm approaching it in the reverse |
| 21:17.15 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 21:17.16 | Zolden | Renee yea, but it's not very popular |
| 21:17.26 | Ownage | I'm tired of editing and maintaining 200 units that are the same except model and some stats that I can infer from other things in the game anyway |
| 21:17.28 | Kueken | all commands create the same unit? |
| 21:17.32 | Ownage | yeah |
| 21:17.58 | Kueken | any way of distinguishing them? |
| 21:18.10 | Ownage | the ability command |
| 21:18.16 | Kueken | besides that |
| 21:18.36 | Ownage | in other words if you have two buttons: scv and super scv, they both make the exact same unit, and I want to based on triggers modify the super scv |
| 21:18.48 | Zolden | Renee are you asking becasue you are curious about russian wc3 project? |
| 21:18.50 | Kueken | yeah, got that |
| 21:19.06 | Ownage | I'm using two approaches which neither seem to be too useful |
| 21:19.17 | Ownage | first is unit uses (the command+abil) |
| 21:19.31 | Ownage | that allows me to capture both, but oddly I'm having trouble grabbing the unit |
| 21:19.49 | Ownage | and the other is unit creats unit with ability, which allows me to grab the unit and abil but not command |
| 21:20.46 | Kueken | trouble grabbing the created unit for method 1? |
| 21:20.50 | Ownage | let me show you what's not working that I think would do it |
| 21:20.52 | Ownage | yeah hang on |
| 21:21.15 | Ownage | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/8q5x.png/ |
| 21:21.41 | Ownage | that wait statement was put there because the debug message never prints |
| 21:22.01 | Ownage | so I thought maybe it needs to wait a second or something.. however that trigger never finds a building... >< |
| 21:22.08 | Kueken | dirty :D |
| 21:22.14 | *** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.145.72) |
| 21:22.37 | Ownage | yeah, but in my case it's acceptable as units are on a grid and there shouldn't ever be any issue with this kind of search |
| 21:22.48 | Ownage | however like I said for some reason it doesn't find anything |
| 21:23.25 | Ownage | this is all experimenting so forgive my 5-second triggers |
| 21:23.32 | Kueken | try looping everything, not just structures and see what it finds |
| 21:24.49 | Renee | Zolden, do all Russian map makers know English and can read SCMapster or they have to use the Russian site? |
| 21:25.52 | kingTD | lol Renee :] |
| 21:26.00 | kingTD | sure they do not know |
| 21:26.24 | JademusSreg | Renee, figured you'd have tested something about which I'm curious; can the SC2 client load custom shaders from maps/mods? |
| 21:26.26 | kingTD | but who does they came to SC2 mapster i think |
| 21:26.30 | Kueken | nah, Zolden is the only russian mapper to ever learn english, because hes a smart sunofawitch |
| 21:26.43 | Zolden | Renee most of them aren't good with english and using that russian site, but there not much of them. I know like 3 russian mapmakers who are using mapster |
| 21:27.27 | Zolden | and maybe about 3 more on the russian site, who are working on any maps |
| 21:28.23 | Renee | I ask because Blizzard CN asked me if it is a good idea to revert editor loc to English. I think it's not a good idea, but they say it's not their decision. It's a possbile global direction of editor localization |
| 21:28.25 | Ownage | odd when I print unit 1 and 2 from all units I find the builder and the structure |
| 21:28.44 | Ownage | am I forgetting something? setting unit type to structure is all you need to match filter structure right? |
| 21:29.05 | Ownage | when I say that I mean double clicking the unit on the left panel and setting for example to melee, protoss, structure |
| 21:29.21 | Renee | JademusSreg, In WoL beta, the client indeed can load custom shaders, I'm not sure if it could in current build |
| 21:29.57 | Kueken | Ownage: Unit: Attributes, check Structure |
| 21:30.18 | Renee | So I think if they would do this, it won't only affect CN region. |
| 21:30.18 | Ownage | ahh, that would be why |
| 21:30.19 | Ownage | thanks |
| 21:30.29 | JademusSreg | Ah. Had some folks test it on my behalf and they reported no success. |
| 21:30.40 | Zolden | Renee russians are usually using english editor version, because translation is far from perfect, it was a hell for me to use that translation, and a heaven to get the english one |
| 21:32.35 | Kueken | same here, german translation is pretty terrible (although it improved over time, I hear), I use english and never looked back |
| 21:33.00 | Renee | yeah, I haven't test the shader things after the game launch, so things may be different since that beta version. |
| 21:33.03 | Kueken | however for people who do not understand english, the german version is preferable obviously |
| 21:33.50 | Kueken | best would be an easy way to select between localized version and english version without having to reinstall the entire game |
| 21:34.03 | Renee | Yeah, I think the samething. I always use EN version, but most of the CN mapper can't read english |
| 21:34.33 | Zolden | yea, local version can be used for mapmaking, but it's just aweful. Search never worked in translated version, actor events were jsut rediculously aweful, I never vere able to find anything just by meaning of its name |
| 21:34.58 | JademusSreg | Tragic, but probably doesn't matter, as most projects don't make it to that tier of polish. |
| 21:35.11 | Kueken | I just love the translation of spacebar in german :D |
| 21:35.13 | Zolden | some artifacts were jsut wrong, like light armor was like light source |
| 21:35.23 | Kueken | outer-space bar |
| 21:35.30 | Zolden | yea :) |
| 21:35.50 | Renee | The UI doesn't quite support non-english character, yes. |
| 21:36.03 | Renee | You can't inpust character in string value |
| 21:36.26 | Renee | Had to use Hex-code in galaxy |
| 21:37.47 | Renee | CN localization is terrible too, I would never want to use it. But for most CN user, they can't read english |
| 21:39.22 | Ownage | hmm I can trigger it but I'm still having trouble getting the actual command |
| 21:39.30 | Ownage | I'm trying to get the string version of the command used |
| 21:40.10 | Ownage | I can only seem to get the 'Ability of Ability Command' but I can't seem to actually convert the ability command to string |
| 21:40.14 | Zolden | Renee well, this means that forcing editor to always be english isn't good idea, because it doesn't bring anything to english users, but affects localization users |
| 21:40.53 | Ownage | ahhhh.... it seems it only uses index, an int |
| 21:41.10 | Kueken | Ownage: an ability command cannot be converted into a string, an ability command consists of an ability and an index |
| 21:41.13 | Kueken | ... |
| 21:41.24 | Ownage | interesting |
| 21:41.38 | Ownage | so how can I get the 'name' of that? must I use catalog lookup? |
| 21:42.24 | Renee | Ownage, you can read Abil.galaxy under TriggerLibs\GameData fold of the mpq |
| 21:42.29 | Kueken | if you have the command use AbilityCommandGetCommand( |
| 21:42.48 | Renee | It can help you pair index with it's strings. |
| 21:42.52 | Kueken | that returns int |
| 21:43.12 | Ownage | I have the int, I'm asking how can I then find the string version of that |
| 21:43.17 | Ownage | or is it only a text value |
| 21:43.21 | Renee | const int c_abilAttackStageApproach = 0; const string c_abilAttackStageApproachName = "Approach"; |
| 21:43.39 | Kueken | what do you mean by string/text version? |
| 21:43.40 | Renee | Read the Abil.galaxy file |
| 21:43.48 | Ownage | I don't know what that means |
| 21:43.55 | Kueken | Renee: he is not talking about ability stages :) |
| 21:44.21 | Renee | It's just a example |
| 21:44.30 | Kueken | Ownage: You have your train ability |
| 21:44.37 | Kueken | for example barracks train |
| 21:44.51 | Kueken | it has a command to train marines, and another one for marauders |
| 21:44.58 | Renee | const int c_abilAttackCmdExecute = 0; const string c_abilAttackCmdExecuteName = "Execute"; |
| 21:45.06 | Ownage | yes, which is the same ability, and then different commands |
| 21:45.10 | Ownage | each command has an index |
| 21:45.11 | Ownage | I get that |
| 21:45.15 | Kueken | yeah |
| 21:45.22 | Ownage | so given the index, how can you find out the actual name of that command |
| 21:45.31 | Kueken | what name? |
| 21:45.35 | Kueken | the name of the button? |
| 21:45.48 | Renee | const int c_abilEffectInstantCmdExecute = 0; const string c_abilEffectInstantCmdExecuteName = "Execute"; |
| 21:45.56 | Ownage | hmmm yeah I guess it would be the button name |
| 21:46.05 | Ownage | looking at the gui it does seem to use that |
| 21:46.21 | Kueken | yeah, then you would have to use catalogs to look up the used button |
| 21:46.29 | Renee | The default button field is only for GUI |
| 21:46.42 | Kueken | and catalog again for the text |
| 21:46.59 | Ownage | gah, I need it string |
| 21:47.05 | Kueken | for what? |
| 21:47.23 | Ownage | I suppose I can ID my units as numbers |
| 21:47.31 | Kueken | an ability command is defined by the ability id (a string) and the index, thats it |
| 21:47.35 | Ownage | yeah that should be ok I guess |
| 21:47.42 | Kueken | it doesn't have a unique string id or something |
| 21:48.01 | Kueken | you can concatenate both into a single string, if you need something like that |
| 21:48.10 | Ownage | so if builder uses Build Protoss -> 1, I can actor model swap to ProtossActor1 |
| 21:48.23 | Ownage | yeah that is alright |
| 21:49.20 | Renee | It's better to use button id |
| 21:50.13 | Renee | Plus, it's not the 'actual name of that command', if you want to find the name of each command index, see Abil.galaxy. |
| 21:50.43 | Renee | You can use the same id for the Unit and it's default button. |
| 21:51.02 | Renee | Read the default button id and you get the Unit type |
| 21:51.38 | Zolden | Renee do you see what I pm'd you here? |
| 21:52.29 | Renee | eh, no... |
| 21:52.36 | Zolden | ok, i'll ask here |
| 21:52.41 | Zolden | how's your wc3 mod progress? |
| 21:53.40 | Renee | Well, every parts except the ability and the upgrade are done. |
| 21:53.53 | Zolden | all models are done yet? |
| 21:55.33 | Renee | All models are there, but not all of them work. Some still needs more fix. But it's enough for current stage |
| 21:56.41 | Zolden | waht about models of effects, spells, buffs etc? |
| 21:56.57 | Renee | yes, they are all in |
| 21:57.10 | Renee | With out model events |
| 21:57.21 | Renee | I did all model events with data |
| 21:57.34 | Renee | Because it's more easier |
| 21:58.32 | Zolden | have you had to remake them or just converted strictly from wc3 to sc2 format? |
| 21:59.03 | Renee | The model or the model events ? |
| 21:59.16 | Renee | I did converted all model events |
| 21:59.49 | Renee | First, convert all mdx to mdl, then read their model events |
| 22:00.08 | Zolden | I mean models, visual effects |
| 22:00.21 | Zolden | what's model events btw? |
| 22:01.28 | Renee | well, centain animations have sounds, or footprints when they walk, or spawn models like bloods |
| 22:02.35 | Renee | For example, when a peasant die, he will scream. It is made in the WC3 model |
| 22:03.16 | Zolden | ok, I see, and what if a her levelups? what visual effect do you play? |
| 22:03.49 | Zolden | or if a hero casts divine shiled, what model is played as buff? |
| 22:05.17 | Renee | Assets\Abilities\Spells\Other\LevelUpCaster\LevelUpCaster.m3 and "Assets\Abilities\Spells\Human\DivineShieldTarget\DivineShieldTarget.m3" |
| 22:05.42 | Renee | I used the same path as these models in WC3 |
| 22:05.51 | Zolden | ok, so you have all those models of the effects, i see. But how did you get m3 of them? recreated with art tools? Or converted? |
| 22:06.36 | Renee | By combine using of mdl->max plugin and art tools. |
| 22:07.01 | Renee | You still have to do most of the parts manually |
| 22:07.49 | Zolden | so, mdl->max plugin creates an exact copy of all visual effects? all particles, ribbons, all that stuff? and in sc2 the effects look like in wc3? |
| 22:08.22 | Zolden | oh, I see, only meshes were translated into max, and particles were remade, right? |
| 22:08.28 | Renee | yes |
| 22:08.39 | Zolden | and now you have the whole huge collection of effects? |
| 22:09.00 | Renee | And you need to scale all meshes to 100x |
| 22:09.36 | Zolden | have you done it alone? or partners helped? |
| 22:09.56 | Renee | I have two people to help me on this |
| 22:10.23 | Kueken | how dare you? |
| 22:10.32 | Zolden | and how close they look to the original wc3 ones? can I see an example? |
| 22:11.01 | Renee | What happened to Kueken? |
| 22:11.20 | Zolden | he's in a good mood obviously |
| 22:11.42 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kueken (~Kueken@brsg-d9bef50d.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:11.44 | Kueken | we expect you to make the most awesomest map ever created, alone. |
| 22:11.57 | Renee | Yes, alone |
| 22:12.31 | Ownage | is this not the way to get the last character of string? substring(str,length of str -1,length of str) |
| 22:12.36 | Renee | But you need people to helped me you convert the models. |
| 22:12.46 | Renee | When you have to convert 3000 models |
| 22:12.53 | Zolden | he translates the legends about your mapmaking strength, Renee, and knowing that you are using someone's help is like knowing that tiger need wolf's help to catch a zebra |
| 22:13.07 | Zolden | omg, 3000 models |
| 22:13.29 | Kueken | The ancient legends say you can do that with your mind in 5 minutes |
| 22:13.34 | Kueken | are they not true? |
| 22:13.43 | Renee | Yeah, not true |
| 22:13.48 | Kueken | :( |
| 22:13.51 | Zolden | so, Renee can you send me one model of any effect, or at least show a screen, becasue i'm curious of how close they look to the originals |
| 22:13.56 | Kueken | my universe collapses |
| 22:14.20 | Renee | But I did every other part alone |
| 22:14.46 | Kueken | with your mind |
| 22:14.49 | Kueken | in 5 minutes |
| 22:14.49 | Kueken | ! |
| 22:15.11 | Renee | I'm trying to find some place to upload the screenshot, zolden |
| 22:15.24 | Zolden | snag.gy |
| 22:15.29 | Kueken | imgur.com |
| 22:15.32 | Kueken | dropbox |
| 22:15.34 | Zolden | there you can ctrl+v |
| 22:15.56 | Ownage | oh nevermind, don't need the -1 |
| 22:16.01 | Renee | Yea, except that I can't access them |
| 22:16.29 | Zolden | Renee you can attach the screen to any of your posts on mapster |
| 22:17.03 | Renee | ok |
| 22:18.09 | Kueken | how does it work anyway? Do you have a whitelist of websites you can access? |
| 22:18.28 | Kueken | or a blacklist of banned sites? |
| 22:18.32 | Renee | http://bbs.islga.org/data/attachment/forum/201310/14/061815imkymc3j5cyo04s3.jpg |
| 22:18.51 | Renee | blacklist, perhaps |
| 22:18.54 | Kueken | that looks very similar to the original :D |
| 22:18.55 | Zolden | yea, perfectly close |
| 22:19.09 | Zolden | Renee ok, and when do you plan to finish the mod? |
| 22:21.08 | Renee | Don't know, really. I was planed to release a playable version in the end of this year. But I got sickness for about half year, so I was just continued on it recently |
| 22:21.47 | Zolden | omg, what happened to you? |
| 22:22.43 | Renee | Well, some disease I-don't-know-it's-name-in-english |
| 22:23.02 | Renee | it's some kind of headaches |
| 22:23.13 | Zolden | and now you're fine? |
| 22:23.25 | Renee | I think I am |
| 22:23.29 | Zolden | good |
| 22:23.38 | Zolden | take care! |
| 22:23.53 | Zolden | ok, and you plan to release the mode and a playable melee map? |
| 22:24.00 | Zolden | *mod |
| 22:24.02 | Renee | yes |
| 22:24.19 | Zolden | and the mod will be public to use in other maps? |
| 22:24.25 | Renee | yes |
| 22:24.39 | Renee | The ultimate goal of this mod is much like GAx3 |
| 22:24.46 | Zolden | alright, thanks for clarifying the situation |
| 22:26.13 | Renee | :) |
| 22:27.53 | Renee | Do you guys have any information about BAS? would it allow you to modify that mod and create your own moba games? |
| 22:28.54 | Zolden | I know nothing about, but it feels reasonable to have it as a dependency |
| 22:29.11 | Zolden | there were rumors about it being sc2-independent and standalone |
| 22:29.26 | Renee | hmmm |
| 22:29.55 | Zolden | but I believe it will be perfectly compartible with sc2 |
| 22:30.08 | Kueken | they certainly take a while |
| 22:30.40 | Kueken | would be pretty stupid if it would be just some shitty funmap after 2 years of development |
| 22:31.04 | Kueken | 3 rather |
| 22:31.12 | Kueken | when was it first announced? |
| 22:31.52 | Renee | I belive they would compartible with sc2 too. I just worry about the if blizzard's policy would allow you to that |
| 22:32.06 | Zolden | It will be more than a funmap, something with the whole new bnet UI, some sports, lobby, matchfinding, sith alot of stuff, but it besides, inside, it will be still a funmap |
| 22:32.26 | Renee | Like you can import swarm model into wol |
| 22:32.46 | Renee | but blizzard doen't permit you to do that |
| 22:33.15 | Kueken | I did that a lot with Frozen Throne :D |
| 22:33.28 | Renee | So do I |
| 22:33.36 | Kueken | as in import TFT models in RoC maps |
| 22:33.41 | Renee | Yes |
| 22:34.00 | Zolden | Renee for sure they will want to have it as a unique product, and will want to keep all assets inside. But we don't know if they make the game free or not. If it won't be free, it may be in the same situation as HOTS, if you payed for the copy, you have access to the mod and can use it and other players will only have access to it if they have payed for a copy |
| 22:34.24 | Zolden | but it can work differently, they can make BAS and the whole arcade - free |
| 22:35.56 | Zolden | Triceron's dream is to put his hands on BAS models |
| 22:36.15 | Renee | I could only hope that blizzard will chose a direction that would make the arcade prosperous. |
| 22:36.24 | Zolden | yea |
| 22:36.34 | Zolden | we all looking forward wor their wiseness |
| 22:37.27 | Zolden | and the "spawn pool" thing may be a kind of a test for giving more access to arcade for ppl who didn't pay for their copy |
| 22:37.39 | Zolden | so they are moving to enwide the amount of arcade players |
| 22:37.45 | Renee | I belive the raynor model in swarm campain is actually a BAS model |
| 22:38.11 | Zolden | why not, it's possible |
| 22:38.22 | Renee | it's more detailed than others |
| 22:42.11 | Renee | Speak of the localization. I gave them a suggestion that the editor could add a feature that allows it to load local loc files |
| 22:42.59 | Renee | So that the map makers can modify the mistranslated parts and fix the broken tokens. |
| 22:43.19 | Zolden | yea, it's a good possibility |
| 22:43.39 | Renee | WC3 editor allows it. |
| 22:44.00 | Zolden | professional translators are not mapmakers, they can't understand the reason of all tokens and translate correctly |
| 22:44.40 | Renee | I did a modified verion for WC3 in 2004 |
| 22:44.59 | Renee | CN WC3 editor loc is terrible too |
| 22:45.43 | Zolden | understandable ;/ |
| 22:46.06 | Renee | It's actually a editor enchant mod, but much less powerful than GAx3 |
| 22:46.35 | Renee | While SC2 mods like GAx3 doesn't allow you to modify the editor texts. |
| 22:48.52 | Zolden | well, since you communicate with blizz, one day they can improve this situation |
| 22:49.56 | Renee | Well, it's Blizz-CN, not the blizz-HQ directly |
| 22:50.44 | Renee | But they promised me that they would talk about this idea with HQ |
| 22:58.48 | Renee | http://bbs.islga.org/data/attachment/forum/201310/14/065835tqo8ve3qw966o6wo.gif |
| 22:59.11 | Renee | The spirit link |
| 23:01.23 | Renee | http://bbs.islga.org/forum.php?mod=attachment&aid=MTQ4OTIyfDRhOTJiNDYxfDEzODE3MDUyNjh8MjA4NnwyMTUzNjk1 |
| 23:01.27 | Renee | it's max file |
| 23:01.51 | Renee | I didn't have other max file on this machine. |
| 23:02.34 | Zolden | is it one of the wc3 beams? |
| 23:03.28 | Renee | Yes, but in WC3 it's just a texture. You have to make it a model in SC2 |
| 23:03.51 | Renee | As well as all WC3 Splats |
| 23:04.20 | Zolden | it says i'm a gues and doesn't let me dl |
| 23:04.27 | Renee | wow |
| 23:05.04 | Renee | I will post it on sc2mapster then |
| 23:05.54 | Zolden | russians are working on wc3 map too, but they are using wow models |
| 23:06.09 | Zolden | and right now i'm remaking wc3 effects for them |
| 23:06.46 | Zolden | they aren't perfectly fit, but look close enough |
| 23:06.59 | Zolden | so, looks like i'm doing what your partners ahve done yet |
| 23:07.28 | Renee | That sounds cool. I use WC3 models because I need the models fix the model events and there footprints |
| 23:07.51 | Renee | *fit the model events and there footprints |
| 23:08.17 | Renee | Beam(they were call Lightning Effect in WC3) and Splats in WC3 are all images. So you need too recreate them as models |
| 23:08.34 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:08.56 | Zolden | and that's what i do |
| 23:09.13 | Renee | Do you have a link for that model zolden? |
| 23:09.43 | Renee | * for that Mod |
| 23:10.04 | Zolden | you mean waht russians do? let me check, there was a thread on russian site |
| 23:10.23 | Renee | thx |
| 23:11.04 | Zolden | http://xgm.ru/p/wc3dot5 |
| 23:11.08 | Renee | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/421/HealBeam3.max |
| 23:11.27 | Zolden | video is a bit outdated though |
| 23:11.47 | Zolden | i've played that map, and it feels pretty close to wc3 |
| 23:12.11 | Zolden | but some things aren't ready, and only humans and orcs playable |
| 23:12.16 | Renee | Great! |
| 23:15.02 | Zolden | opened max file, but don't have textures... though, it look just like a bema suppposed to look |
| 23:15.41 | Renee | can the particles of wow models be converted to sc2 format? |
| 23:15.54 | Zolden | nope |
| 23:16.24 | Zolden | I create all from scratch, by just looking how wc3 models look in wc3 editor |
| 23:16.56 | Zolden | and using sc2 textures to save map size |
| 23:17.06 | Renee | that's great |
| 23:17.09 | Renee | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/422/HealBeam.dds |
| 23:18.46 | Zolden | Renee so, you can't see images from snag.gy? |
| 23:19.16 | Bommes | Is there a way to filter the "Unit Damaged" Actor Event based on the amount of damage? Maybe with the ValidateCreationEffect or CompareField Term or something? |
| 23:19.55 | Renee | I can't open the snag.gy site |
| 23:20.11 | Renee | but I do have a vpn |
| 23:20.40 | Renee | with this I could see the pictures, but the vpn not good enough for me to upload files |
| 23:21.33 | Renee | Boomes, you need to use a behavior, that response to the damage based on the amount |
| 23:21.55 | Zolden | Renee http://i.snag.gy/0umLX.jpg can you see this? |
| 23:22.02 | Zolden | it's how my divine shield look |
| 23:22.17 | Bommes | Renee: Okay, thanks :) |
| 23:22.44 | Zolden | shadow strike http://i.snag.gy/VGQuK.jpg |
| 23:23.18 | Bommes | I guess I'd have to use some kind of dummy effects or behaviors as part of the damage response then? |
| 23:23.29 | Renee | yes |
| 23:24.04 | Renee | They are great, Zolden.I see you used sc2 texutures. It's good to save sizes |
| 23:24.15 | Bommes | Okay, I'll probably just use a Trigger then because my application is pretty specific anyway and a trigger approach doesn't really hurt since I have to use the same Trigger Event for changing UI stuff anyways. |
| 23:24.34 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/drIkB.jpg fairy fire |
| 23:25.58 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/2kc3T.jpg holy light |
| 23:26.00 | Zolden | and so on |
| 23:27.06 | Zolden | sc2 partile textures are pretty rich to fit like 90% of effect needs |
| 23:27.25 | Renee | The vpn doesn't work well. Some pic can't be fully load. But I like the fairy fire particularly :) |
| 23:29.26 | Renee | http://bbs.islga.org/data/attachment/forum/201310/14/072914s416tzz6xp140eoo.jpg |
| 23:31.03 | Zolden | I saw that thread on goblin academy, and your models look great |
| 23:31.18 | Zolden | shiny with all sc2 shader features |
| 23:34.56 | Zolden | Renee do you plan to put hp on unit tab, when lots of units are selected? |
| 23:35.24 | Renee | I'm not decided about it |
| 23:35.49 | Renee | *haven't decided |
| 23:36.10 | Renee | The UI part would be the last of the mod. |
| 23:37.56 | Zolden | I also like how your mod look bright and colorful |
| 23:38.38 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/423/Untitled-2.jpg |
| 23:38.47 | Zolden | this is one of the latest images I saw |
| 23:39.15 | Zolden | all's darker, terrain, buildings |
| 23:43.12 | Renee | Yea, I took some time to make things more brightly. It still need adjusments, but enough for current stage |
| 23:44.04 | Zolden | Renee don't you know where to get a model of a cute kitten? |
| 23:44.12 | Zolden | I wnat it to be the final boss in my map |
| 23:45.01 | Renee | Hmm, don't know... |
| 23:46.12 | Renee | The orc UI looks great. Is it a model or a picture? |
| 23:46.46 | Zolden | honestly, i don't know :) |
| 23:47.11 | Zolden | i recently joined the project and don't know all details |
| 23:54.51 | Renee | I heard the official wc3 assert mod would be out in Sep, but it is already October now |
| 23:55.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster proprietarysucks (proprietar@100.255.204.207.client.dyn.strong-sf43.as22781.net) |
| 23:57.17 | Zolden | was it supposed to out with another patch? |
| 23:57.54 | Fate_ | i want orks with guns :) |
| 23:58.09 | Zolden | or they were about to simply add it to bnet |
| 23:58.25 | Zolden | maybe they did and no one has checked? |
| 23:58.45 | Zolden | Fate_ orcs vs your laser tanks? |
| 23:59.03 | Fate_ | sure^^ |
| 23:59.14 | Fate_ | WAARGHHH!!! |
| 23:59.31 | Fate_ | DAKA DAKA DAKA!!!! |
