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| 00:04.32 | DarkOne | Hey, is there a way in 3DS max to have one texture overlay on top of another texture? (i.e. shirt texture on top of a skin texture) |
| 00:05.10 | Triceron | use a composite shader |
| 00:05.28 | Triceron | and use alphas to mask out parts |
| 00:06.24 | DarkOne | ??? |
| 00:11.39 | Triceron | Use a 'Muti/Sub-Object' shader, which is like photoshop layers. |
| 00:12.13 | DarkOne | ok |
| 00:12.18 | Triceron | and your regular shaders would be like the photoshop layers. So you make a shader for your skin |
| 00:12.35 | Triceron | and you put your shirt texture on another shader, and that goes on top of the skin one. |
| 00:13.07 | Triceron | then you make a black/white alpha map so the shirt texture is transparent for everything except your shirt image. |
| 00:13.12 | Zolden | also this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua1FAlHt_Ys |
| 00:13.53 | Zolden | DarkOne arey ou talking about modelling for sc2? |
| 00:14.05 | DarkOne | yes |
| 00:14.40 | Triceron | if for SC2, use SC2 Composite shader. It's the same as a multi/sub-object shader. |
| 00:14.56 | DarkOne | not sure how |
| 00:20.01 | Zolden | DarkOne are you using Art Tools? |
| 00:20.06 | DarkOne | no |
| 00:20.18 | DarkOne | I have the M2 tools |
| 00:20.26 | DarkOne | i had to import from WoW |
| 00:20.29 | Zolden | Triceron man, thanks for that link, i had so much fun watching those guys' videos |
| 00:21.06 | Zolden | DarkOne blizzard released beta version of art tools - the plugin for max they used to make all sc2 models |
| 00:21.21 | Zolden | i recommend to install it on a separate copy of max 2011 |
| 00:21.56 | Zolden | then read its tutorials, they are very helpful, made for total noobs and explain all important parts |
| 00:22.20 | DarkOne | and with that I should be able to do this multi-texture thing |
| 00:22.25 | DarkOne | ? |
| 00:22.32 | Zolden | then you just save your imported wow models as .max, open it ith the copy of max you have art tools at, and do the cool stuff |
| 00:23.15 | DarkOne | so use say 32-bit for importing M2 then use 64-bit for Star Tools? |
| 00:23.16 | Zolden | in art tools you can do magical stuff with textures, particles, ribbons, intersecting animations, 3d turrets, just all the cool stuff we have in sc2 |
| 00:23.28 | Zolden | yea |
| 00:23.29 | DarkOne | ok |
| 00:23.54 | Zolden | for example, I have max 2010 for m3 exporter to get wow models, and max 2011 for art tools to finish them |
| 00:24.26 | DarkOne | took some time to figure out texture problems with underwear on the model |
| 00:26.44 | DarkOne | trying to rig one model for each race in WoW for SC2 so I can replace textures for things like chest armor, boots, bracers, pants, etc. |
| 00:26.59 | DarkOne | like they do in WoW |
| 00:28.17 | Triceron | that system might not work for SC2 |
| 00:28.24 | Triceron | you'll have to figure work arounds |
| 00:29.03 | Triceron | WoW models use texture swaps for most of the clothing parts |
| 00:29.16 | DarkOne | which can be done in SC2 |
| 00:29.37 | Triceron | it may be possible to use a Composite shader and have a shader for each texture (Shirts, Pants, Gloves) |
| 00:29.40 | DarkOne | i've done it with unit textures like hair on a WoW model in SC2 |
| 00:30.20 | Triceron | then use the SelectTexturebyID method in SC2's data editor to swap the textures when you change items |
| 00:30.28 | DarkOne | If you wanna help with it, you're welcome to. |
| 00:30.55 | DarkOne | I'm currently working on Human Male |
| 00:31.12 | Zolden | yea, Triceron is right, you can create a material with all clothes and change alpha texture with texture select by id |
| 00:31.39 | Zolden | another way is uing track set animations to key alpha |
| 00:33.31 | DeadZergling | strange link Triceron, stranger still is how foxes actually sound |
| 00:36.08 | Triceron | yiff yiff |
| 00:36.21 | Zolden | DeadZergling saw my last creation? http://i.snag.gy/LUG8T.jpg |
| 00:37.23 | Zolden | actually not last and not entirely creation ;/ |
| 00:37.49 | DeadZergling | what is it supposed to be? |
| 00:38.15 | Zolden | it became a laser tank in my map |
| 00:38.40 | Zolden | can hunt ducks and worms |
| 00:38.43 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/56/battletank.gif |
| 00:38.49 | DeadZergling | at first I was like, let it be a devastator, lol |
| 00:38.50 | Zolden | because of 3d aiming |
| 00:38.57 | Zolden | wow, true! |
| 00:39.08 | Zolden | man, why haven't i noticed the similarity |
| 00:39.34 | Zolden | fuck, will add blow on death |
| 00:39.57 | DeadZergling | well, to be a devastator, seems like the top should be lower |
| 00:40.04 | DeadZergling | with a more massive looking cannon |
| 00:40.39 | Zolden | yea... but looks like i subconsciously thought about it |
| 00:53.40 | DarkOne | can't get composite to work |
| 00:55.13 | Fate_ | FUUUUUUCKKKKK |
| 00:55.25 | Fate_ | gooddamed bugged editor |
| 00:55.34 | Fate_ | AHHHHH |
| 00:56.10 | Fate_ | i worrked for about 3 hours |
| 00:56.21 | Fate_ | editor crashed |
| 00:56.48 | Fate_ | but the test is still runing |
| 00:57.22 | Fate_ | is there a way to get the map i am currently testing? it must be save somewhere right? |
| 00:57.58 | DeadZergling | should be a temporary one created yes, forget where that is exactly though |
| 00:58.44 | Fate_ | i have to find that! |
| 01:06.36 | Fate_ | T_T |
| 01:06.40 | Fate_ | i dont find it |
| 01:07.19 | DeadZergling | what I'd do |
| 01:07.27 | DeadZergling | is look for .sc2map, do a search on entire hard drive |
| 01:07.36 | DeadZergling | see what file is most recent, that should be it |
| 01:11.30 | Fate_ | i wonlder how many .scmap data is on my pc |
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| 01:22.12 | Fate_ | -.- |
| 01:23.02 | Fate_ | i had sooo much motivation |
| 01:24.29 | Fate_ | its not there T_T |
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| 01:27.02 | Fate_ | oh good its lost |
| 01:27.14 | Fate_ | this is hard |
| 01:27.19 | Fate_ | this is soo hard |
| 01:27.52 | DeadZergling | scmap, thought the extension was sc2map? |
| 01:28.00 | DeadZergling | could be off though, im just at work, lol |
| 01:28.18 | Fate_ | its still runing |
| 01:28.33 | Fate_ | but not in editor |
| 01:28.45 | Fate_ | if i close it its realy lost |
| 01:29.10 | Fate_ | but what can i doooooo |
| 01:29.48 | DeadZergling | if you can't find a single map doing a search, you probably doing it really wrong |
| 01:30.15 | Fate_ | maybee you cant find it that way |
| 01:31.05 | Fate_ | well maybee there is not file for a map u are currently playing |
| 01:31.31 | DeadZergling | then how are you playing it? :P |
| 01:32.18 | Fate_ | maybee the file gave the data to the programm when is was started |
| 01:33.04 | Fate_ | witch would mean the programm would not need the file to keep running |
| 01:34.21 | DarkOne | i have the WoW model in 3ds max yet when i click export -> preview it says I can't preview the model |
| 01:36.30 | Fate_ | well i am staring form the beginning then |
| 01:36.43 | Fate_ | this is not gona stopp me!!!!! |
| 01:36.53 | Fate_ | I AM FUCKING FATE |
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| 02:13.02 | Fate_ | okey 1/3 of the stuff i did before done, time for a toast |
| 02:13.49 | DeadZergling | no, don't toast your computer |
| 02:13.53 | DeadZergling | you'll lose the map entirely |
| 02:14.32 | Fate_ | XD |
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| 02:23.42 | DarkOne | anyone know how to get WoW models to work with SC2 model tools? |
| 02:23.53 | Stewox | there is a tut somewhere |
| 02:23.58 | Stewox | some people do know |
| 02:24.07 | Stewox | ask who has 3dsmax experience |
| 02:24.11 | Stewox | but i don't know |
| 02:24.14 | Stewox | and im going to sleep |
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| 04:12.39 | Zandose | yo |
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| 04:14.01 | EntityEnigma | what does it mean if some of your values for your events in the actors tab are red? |
| 04:14.24 | EntityEnigma | does that mean they arent set up properly? |
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| 04:18.09 | EntityEnigma | or does that mean that there is nothing linked to that event |
| 04:18.59 | EntityEnigma | im juch a genious :S |
| 04:23.48 | Zandose | anyone know by how much units are scale/re-sized when your viewing a unit from a distance? |
| 05:47.08 | twodie | 12355 |
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| 06:24.31 | Triceron | Bibendus |
| 06:24.43 | Triceron | you hear about new Dungeon Keeper game? |
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| 06:55.35 | Torhal | Triceron: ? |
| 07:05.47 | Triceron | ? |
| 07:07.24 | Kueken | ? |
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| 07:09.53 | Triceron | crams Otixa back in his hole |
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| 07:19.13 | twodie | !!! |
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| 08:40.51 | twodie | ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ |
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| 09:03.04 | Ownage | is there an ability type which when clicked, toggles its icon? |
| 09:03.10 | Ownage | or should I just use triggers |
| 09:03.33 | Ownage | example of what I'm talking about is like a mana shield button in wc3 - it's one thing, then when you click it it's another. then when you click it again it's back to the original |
| 09:03.55 | twodie | well its show Hide requirement |
| 09:04.04 | twodie | and it switches between abilities |
| 09:04.21 | twodie | its like siege tank morph |
| 09:04.25 | Ownage | ok thanks |
| 09:16.02 | Kueken | Ownage: the Behavior abilty type can do that |
| 09:16.25 | Kueken | its used for terran cloak, for example |
| 09:16.51 | Ownage | ah thanks that's what I was wondering |
| 09:17.15 | Kueken | it toggles between 2 icons, you can even make them use different hotkeys and icon placements as well (but you don't have to) |
| 09:27.27 | Ownage | hmm |
| 09:27.48 | Ownage | I have behavior ability on unit, two default icons, no requirements |
| 09:27.52 | Ownage | doesn't show in game.. |
| 09:28.48 | Ownage | is there something it needs which is different than effect instant type? |
| 09:30.53 | Ownage | does it need a behavior? |
| 09:32.28 | Kueken | I would guess so |
| 09:32.38 | Kueken | a hidden dummy behavior should suffice |
| 09:32.53 | Ownage | yeah that did it |
| 09:33.05 | Ownage | oddly the button now disappears after hitting it |
| 09:33.19 | Ownage | hmm, do I need two or something? |
| 09:33.37 | Kueken | you need to set up 2 icons in the command card, yes |
| 09:33.44 | Ownage | two behaviors |
| 09:33.53 | Ownage | as I said I have two icons and one ability |
| 09:33.55 | Kueken | no, only one usually |
| 09:34.12 | Ownage | it didn't show, then I added a behavior and now it shows but after clicking goes away (but grants the behavior) |
| 09:34.19 | Ownage | ahh |
| 09:34.25 | Kueken | did you check the "toggle" flag? |
| 09:34.38 | Ownage | does it need 'show in glossary'? what is that |
| 09:34.43 | twodie | How to delete Model from Mod file without viewing it? cause it crashes editor |
| 09:34.50 | Kueken | thats for the help menu, not important |
| 09:34.56 | Ownage | ok |
| 09:35.05 | Ownage | flags is empty |
| 09:35.18 | Ownage | oh might need toggle flag |
| 09:35.40 | Kueken | twodie: save mod as component list or open with MPQ editor |
| 09:35.46 | Kueken | and delete the file manually |
| 09:35.56 | twodie | mpq editor only can read |
| 09:36.05 | twodie | need then to create new mpq |
| 09:36.05 | Kueken | oh, it can write |
| 09:36.18 | Kueken | I do it all the time |
| 09:36.21 | Ownage | hmm toggle flag didn't do anything |
| 09:36.26 | twodie | what you do all the time? |
| 09:36.41 | Kueken | edit map mpqs with mpq editor |
| 09:36.49 | twodie | hmmm |
| 09:36.56 | twodie | which version? |
| 09:37.05 | Kueken | but you can use component lists, no problem |
| 09:37.23 | Kueken | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 09:37.34 | Kueken | 3.5.0.750 apparently |
| 09:37.52 | twodie | hmm why I have 3.2........... |
| 09:39.57 | Kueken | note that it defaults to a combine mpq mode for opening multiple mpq files, which is indeed read-only |
| 09:40.19 | Kueken | but you can just switch to single mode and you can write properly |
| 09:45.52 | Ownage | is there something I need to do to the behavior? |
| 09:47.11 | Kueken | not really |
| 09:47.20 | Kueken | so all you need is a toggleable button? |
| 09:47.32 | Ownage | yeah |
| 09:47.33 | Kueken | let me try real quick |
| 09:47.45 | Ownage | a behavior would be ideal too |
| 09:47.55 | Ownage | I know I can do it in other ways but prefer data |
| 09:55.58 | Kueken | https://www.dropbox.com/s/jiy8zgx1ol1hs6e/StimToggle.SC2Map |
| 09:56.11 | Kueken | marines with toggled stimpack :D |
| 10:00.01 | Bommes | The map is also called: Junkies and Non-Junkies |
| 10:01.18 | Ownage | can you tell me what you did |
| 10:02.47 | Kueken | ability, type behavior, set the behavior to stim. made stim duration 0, added 2 buttons, linked those to the turn on and turn off commands of the ability. Then added the 2 icons to the command card of the unit with the 2 commands |
| 10:02.58 | Kueken | oh and enabled the toggle flag |
| 10:03.08 | Ownage | hmm not working for me |
| 10:03.13 | Kueken | (and transient, but thats not really relevant) |
| 10:03.15 | Ownage | let me try to change it to stim behavior |
| 10:03.31 | Kueken | wait, so my testmap doesn't work for you? |
| 10:03.45 | Ownage | don't need a test map I don't think |
| 10:04.03 | Ownage | I understand what I'm doing already, and I know it works in principle |
| 10:04.04 | Kueken | then send me the xml data of the ability and the unit |
| 10:04.16 | Ownage | let me try stim real quick then I will if it doesn't work |
| 10:05.41 | Ownage | yeah just goes away for me |
| 10:05.45 | Ownage | ok hang on |
| 10:09.22 | Ownage | http://pastebin.com/vw8H8ur8 |
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| 10:10.39 | Ownage | the symptom again: in game I see the button. I click the button and then I gain behavior, and there is no more button |
| 10:11.43 | Kueken | you need to add both buttons to the unit's command card |
| 10:12.25 | Ownage | fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu |
| 10:12.38 | Ownage | sorry man, I know you said that already |
| 10:12.43 | Ownage | thanks |
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| 10:25.18 | Zolden | twodie yesterday I found something realy nice on youtube, can you believe it? |
| 10:25.47 | twodie | no |
| 10:28.27 | Zolden | twodie http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jofNR_WkoCE |
| 10:28.34 | twodie | okay |
| 10:28.41 | Zolden | also http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y8i1Ddj1Sw8 |
| 10:28.50 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaEnaoydUUo |
| 10:28.58 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbyzgeee2mg |
| 10:29.13 | Zolden | same guys' clips |
| 10:29.49 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=369FGAb1iI8 |
| 10:30.09 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ua1FAlHt_Ys |
| 10:32.28 | Kueken | lyrics are funny, music should be muted :) |
| 10:34.17 | Zolden | my musical taste actually satisfied 50% of time, he knows some nice notes |
| 10:34.26 | Kueken | stonehenge - giant stone birthday cake or prison which is way too easy to escape :D |
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| 10:35.44 | Kueken | is unduck related to you? ;) |
| 10:36.36 | duckies | he is the manifistation of wrath created by me beind dropped less than 30 seconds after joining irc |
| 10:36.40 | duckies | several times in a row |
| 10:36.44 | duckies | D:< |
| 10:37.27 | Zolden | Kueken yea, lyrics are so laconical an precise and funny, with a little incrustation of abusrd, just like i like |
| 10:45.22 | Kueken | another dead duck |
| 10:45.47 | twodie | ^^ |
| 10:50.05 | twodie | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 10:50.16 | Kueken | yes |
| 10:50.18 | twodie | http://nooooooooooooooo.com/ |
| 10:52.22 | Zolden | maybe |
| 10:55.20 | Bommes | depends. |
| 10:58.02 | Bommes | Zolden: Reminds me of the literal versions of 80s music videos http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/e062d7b4d5/take-on-me-literal-video-version-from-dustfilms |
| 11:02.09 | Bommes | http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/16e4ead1dc/under-the-bridge-literal-video-version-from-dustfilms |
| 11:03.55 | twodie | kitties boobies |
| 11:12.36 | Zolden | titties poopies |
| 11:41.41 | twodie | Zolden how about such bad ass char in your game? http://snag.gy/zdYMQ.jpg |
| 11:44.09 | Zolden | looks nice |
| 11:44.18 | Zolden | how many polygons? |
| 11:44.18 | twodie | no attack animation |
| 11:46.48 | twodie | Zolden vertex count 4k |
| 11:47.20 | twodie | maybe not welded when exported from WoW |
| 11:48.00 | twodie | thor have 3 times more |
| 11:53.41 | Zolden | the only problem is texture, i don't import wow textures |
| 11:54.07 | Zolden | i have 100+ models and only 9mb mod size |
| 11:54.38 | twodie | yeah and models look not very well |
| 12:03.56 | twodie | So what project next I need to start making |
| 12:24.31 | Zolden | make the one you most excited about, better if you even obsessed and can't wait to finish it |
| 12:31.45 | Ownage | can one of you dudes recommend the quick path to extracting all icons from the game so I can view them locally |
| 12:34.43 | Zolden | mpq editor i guess would help |
| 12:35.37 | twodie | or download these: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/wow-icons-enhanced/ |
| 12:36.11 | Ownage | I don't want wow icons, I don't play it or make maps in that genre |
| 12:36.14 | twodie | Yeah Zol need to get started on most giving satisfaction one now |
| 12:36.28 | twodie | its about time to start making ! |
| 12:44.10 | Ownage | what's a good mpq editor |
| 12:44.26 | Ownage | there seem to be millions of them |
| 12:45.12 | Ownage | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html ? |
| 12:45.45 | Zolden | i'm using Ladik's one 3.2.2.661 |
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| 12:50.06 | Ownage | yeah its same |
| 12:50.10 | Ownage | you're out of date though |
| 12:50.33 | Ownage | I'm on 3.5.0.750 released 2012 |
| 12:50.39 | Ownage | hit my url i pasted to get it |
| 13:14.29 | Kueken | thats the best working one I encountered |
| 13:14.33 | Kueken | WinMPQ sucks |
| 13:15.06 | Kueken | and the others I tried were outdated and didn't support the MPQ formats used by SC2 or D3 |
| 13:16.32 | Ownage | ok I got a ton of crap extracted but didn't find the icon I was looking for :/ |
| 13:17.03 | Ownage | I miss the days of sc1 and warcraft when you could just go online and people had everything you needed |
| 13:17.06 | Kueken | the assets are located in various mpq files |
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| 13:17.51 | Kueken | the dependencies each have their own, I believe, and patches add new ones as well |
| 13:38.04 | twodie | Any modeler knows how to make bones appear from Wireframed to Solid sides? |
| 13:38.13 | twodie | boxes, bones |
| 13:52.40 | Kueken | boners? |
| 13:59.46 | Zolden | clap clap clap |
| 13:59.57 | Zolden | and "joke of the day" award goes tooooo.... |
| 14:00.01 | Kueken | yeah, had to do it |
| 14:00.13 | Kueken | come on, you thought about it |
| 14:00.45 | Zolden | thought about smoked pig tongue |
| 14:03.28 | Kueken | oh yeah, sure you did |
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| 14:23.12 | twodie | Fuckedy fuck, Zolden how about pasting the Skin modifier with bones to other mesh without making it rescale or move or other shit... |
| 14:25.56 | Zolden | easy |
| 14:26.04 | Zolden | Triceron taught me |
| 14:26.12 | Zolden | use skin wrap |
| 14:26.39 | Zolden | first, place your mesh to the skinned model, close to it |
| 14:26.50 | Zolden | then in skin wrap pick the skinned mesh |
| 14:27.07 | Zolden | then manually modify fucked weights |
| 14:27.26 | Zolden | haven't tried it yet, so better check youtube vid about this modifier |
| 14:28.32 | twodie | how to apply same bones? |
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| 14:36.49 | Zolden | your mesh will use the bones the skin modifier uses of the mesh you picked |
| 14:37.25 | twodie | Cool |
| 14:37.33 | twodie | yeah it works |
| 14:37.50 | twodie | sure model is fucked but thats the way it would been anyways |
| 14:45.45 | Zolden | Triceron uses it and knows how to unfuck |
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| 14:50.49 | twodie | Well im Using Animation from WC3 unit for WoW unit. Meatwagon |
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| 15:22.02 | Zolden | i don't get meat wagon idea |
| 15:22.07 | Zolden | why catapult corpses? |
| 15:22.27 | Zolden | wouldn't stones work better? |
| 15:22.40 | Zolden | flesh is soft, it's mostly water |
| 15:23.22 | nosamatar | hey zolden, look russell brand funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJVbccKJwEw |
| 15:23.24 | Zolden | bones are friable |
| 15:28.34 | twodie | Meat are FUN |
| 15:28.42 | twodie | FUN > STONE |
| 15:32.13 | Torhal | twodie: You're frightening the children. |
| 15:32.29 | Zolden | yea, it's fun, just a bit forced, affected, like Raynor's reaction in the prison on Kerrigan evolved body |
| 15:32.49 | twodie | where are those children that i frightering? |
| 15:33.04 | twodie | Fuck logic! |
| 15:33.44 | Zolden | crap, i can't help myself agreeing with you |
| 15:34.15 | Zolden | absurd and exaggeration rocks |
| 15:34.40 | twodie | !!! |
| 15:34.57 | Zolden | fucks logic in its "o" |
| 15:35.29 | Zolden | join us, twodie, there's also "g" |
| 15:35.51 | twodie | :D |
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| 15:39.12 | twodie | ahhhhhhhhhh shit |
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| 15:40.48 | Goa | Zolden I am having hard time to choose the next book to read, any suggestions? |
| 15:43.55 | Goa | I want something new and without sequels |
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| 15:45.27 | Goa | thinking about reading: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ringworld |
| 15:46.27 | Zolden | Goa yea, i can give you a couple of names of novels I liked very much |
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| 15:48.32 | Goa | nice |
| 15:48.43 | Goa | hmm |
| 15:48.52 | Goa | you said is Ubik is very good? |
| 15:49.08 | Zolden | Goa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Genius_and_the_Goddess http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_in_the_Dunes_(novel) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Moon_and_Sixpence |
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| 15:50.11 | Zolden | Goa have you read philip dick? He became my favorit sci-fi guy, and i could give you a couple of his novels to start with, but you may have read them |
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| 15:51.08 | Teratron | hi |
| 15:51.13 | Goa | I read only 1 book from hi |
| 15:51.15 | Goa | m |
| 15:51.27 | Zolden | the one about androids? |
| 15:51.32 | Goa | I am not so fun of utopias scifis |
| 15:51.46 | Goa | nope it wasnt about androids |
| 15:52.54 | Zolden | which one have you read? |
| 15:53.41 | Zolden | Goa http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubik http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Scanner_Darkly http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Do_Androids_Dream_of_Electric_Sheep |
| 15:53.47 | Goa | I have to search its name:) |
| 15:53.48 | Zolden | i only have read these 3 |
| 15:54.02 | Zolden | and my impression says dick is a genius |
| 15:54.27 | Goa | :D |
| 15:54.40 | Goa | I am considering reading Ubik |
| 15:55.14 | Goa | I just finished the first 4 book's of Ender's Saga and I need something hardcore scifi |
| 15:55.56 | Zolden | hardcore is dick's second name |
| 15:57.29 | Goa | is the film good? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woman_in_the_Dunes_(novel) :D |
| 15:58.11 | Zolden | i heard it's not as cool as the book |
| 15:58.30 | Zolden | book has magic, which is hard to cinemate |
| 15:58.37 | Goa | all films not as cool as the book |
| 15:59.04 | Zolden | yea, and those who are cool enough, are just different |
| 15:59.50 | Zolden | for example, total recall is great, but it's more than the story it based on |
| 15:59.50 | Goa | fuck you wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubik "a deeply unsettling existential horror story, a nightmare you'll never be sure you've woken up from." |
| 15:59.59 | Goa | thats not really says much about the book:D |
| 16:01.01 | Zolden | Ubik is just too high for fat wikipedia editors to be able to express any relevant description |
| 16:01.15 | Goa | :) |
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| 16:22.18 | twodie | Zolden how to change models bones while not chaning the model vertex |
| 16:22.25 | twodie | placement |
| 16:27.12 | Ownage | having switched out a model for a missle from missle to a beam, what event can I add so the beam is destroyed on impact |
| 16:27.58 | Ownage | in other words I have a unit which fires a missile but I've switched out the model to a beam, so now it sticks to the target location and just stretches all over the map following the unit |
| 16:37.42 | Zolden | twodie dunno, i suck with skinning |
| 16:38.12 | twodie | fucked Im :( |
| 16:38.25 | Zolden | Ownage Destroy destroys actor |
| 16:38.26 | twodie | my O is hurting |
| 16:42.54 | Goa | I wonder if a policy of Facebook of making their page more and more slow and bugier and fucked up. |
| 16:43.03 | Ownage | what is the criteria for that |
| 16:43.20 | Ownage | I mean, what is the event which would trigger the destroy |
| 16:45.16 | Ownage | I've got an interceptor but I want to make his lasers be a different model for the beam basically |
| 16:45.37 | Ownage | it ends up just getting stuck on the ground basicall |
| 16:47.06 | Zolden | you can use a timer to destroy |
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| 16:52.24 | Ownage | sorry got disconnected, didn't see any reply |
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| 16:59.43 | Zolden | I usually destroy beams by time |
| 17:02.41 | Ownage | what I don't get really is how it normally is destroyed |
| 17:02.56 | Ownage | I copied archon beam events and set model to archon, and it still doesn't work right |
| 17:03.03 | Ownage | model to archon beam* |
| 17:10.41 | Ownage | ahh looks like i had some differences in the model |
| 17:13.52 | Goa | Zolden I still didnt find the right book, but gonna listen this one now: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojEq-tTjcc0 :D |
| 17:16.22 | Goa | ahh its not the one I wanted |
| 17:16.39 | Goa | stupid google |
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| 17:49.36 | twodie | Finally those animations some what fixed. Need a new mouse since my left finger hurts now from that mouse wheel........ |
| 17:49.54 | Zolden | lol |
| 17:49.57 | Zolden | same thing |
| 17:50.11 | Zolden | lots of wheel pressing in max |
| 17:50.25 | Zolden | but you can fix yours as I did |
| 17:51.27 | Zolden | tiny push makes if as soft as as children nose |
| 17:51.54 | Zolden | fixing mouses is interesting |
| 17:53.37 | twodie | well without changing the mouse will not achieve something great as i |
| 17:54.48 | Zolden | you are too great for any mouse to achieve |
| 18:06.59 | twodie | y, need that shit with touch painting shit crap |
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| 18:21.56 | ArcanePariah | Hey Jade, has anyone figured out how to use Event Definitions? |
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| 18:52.45 | Ownage | how can I make colossus attack faster? |
| 18:53.02 | Triceron | give him stimpacks |
| 18:56.19 | twodie | make a drop call for more collosus when collossus is attacking |
| 18:57.34 | Ownage | huh? |
| 18:58.16 | Zolden | Ownage explain "faster" |
| 18:59.00 | Ownage | give two colossus, one with .05 attack speed and one with 1.5 attack speed, they attack at just about the same rate, because the attack takes so long |
| 18:59.19 | Ownage | the only difference is that the .05 is continuously attacking, while the 1.5 takes a break |
| 18:59.27 | Ownage | but the damage output is nearly the same |
| 18:59.57 | Ownage | so how can I -with buff or trigger or whathaveyou- make the .05 one actually ATTACK faster, not just initiate the attack |
| 19:00.07 | Ownage | time scale? |
| 19:02.05 | Zolden | colossus attack is complicated, learn it, there are ways |
| 19:03.30 | Ownage | I understand it |
| 19:03.48 | Ownage | I just cloned one and gave him different beams, attack range, damage etc |
| 19:03.53 | Ownage | I know it well enough I should say |
| 19:03.58 | Ownage | I understand what it's doing |
| 19:04.28 | Zolden | than you know what defines atack duration |
| 19:09.20 | Ownage | I'm guessing it's the movement speed of the impact sites |
| 19:09.27 | Ownage | but I don't know what's a good way to change that in game |
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| 19:29.31 | ArcanePariah | Ownage, because of how the Collosus attack works, if you are looking to increase the sweep rate of the beams, you need to look at Thermal Lances (Create Persistent Backwards) and Thermal Lances (Create Persistent Forwards) and reduce the period duration, in order to speed up the time between each movement |
| 19:34.28 | Ownage | can that be done via behavior? :) |
| 19:37.38 | twodie | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/44/240/Meatwagon.gif |
| 19:42.50 | Zolden | ok |
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| 19:45.41 | twodie | need to learn how to properly make textures |
| 19:49.15 | Fate_ | nice |
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| 20:23.12 | Goa | Homeworld 3 will be built on Unity, hmmmm http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9aeNtKKXeo |
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| 20:57.14 | ArcanePariah | Have a question about regions in triggers, what defines the playable map area that can be returned as a region, is it the entire map that is pathable, or anywhere that is above cliff level 0? |
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| 22:03.51 | A1win | ArcanePariah, it's just the square within the outermost unpathable bounds |
| 22:04.25 | ArcanePariah | So what is the difference between playable map area, and entire map? |
| 22:04.40 | A1win | entire map includes the unpathable area at the borders |
| 22:04.44 | ArcanePariah | Seems to be basically identical |
| 22:05.14 | A1win | so in other words, entire map is entire map, and playable map area is playable map area ;p |
| 22:05.48 | A1win | modifying the terrain has no effect on those regions |
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| 22:30.20 | evily | hello im wondering how to make splash damage air only if thats possible |
| 22:30.57 | A1win | set the target filter to require Air |
| 22:31.04 | A1win | and exclude Ground |
| 22:31.53 | A1win | unless you want it to hit colossus etc too |
| 22:31.56 | evily | is that on the effect or the weapon? |
| 22:32.11 | A1win | on the effect |
| 22:32.27 | evily | ok the search filter? |
| 22:32.37 | A1win | yeah |
| 22:32.44 | evily | allright..... will try it out:) thanks |
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| 23:04.22 | JademusSreg | Zoop. |
| 23:05.44 | JademusSreg | Where there are no "camera margins", playable and entire map regions should describe the same area. |
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| 23:57.32 | EntityEnigma | hey kueken if you are vailable i have question for you |
| 23:58.22 | Kueken | only for me? |
| 23:59.00 | EntityEnigma | well anyone could answer it who knows the answer lol |
| 23:59.10 | Kueken | awww :( |
| 23:59.18 | EntityEnigma | hahaha |
| 23:59.26 | Kueken | and there goes my very exclusive question |
| 23:59.36 | EntityEnigma | LOL |
| 23:59.46 | EntityEnigma | ok this is only for kueken then |
| 23:59.54 | EntityEnigma | dont steal it |
