| 00:08.07 | Kueken | Ahli: Once I got used to it, I found WikiCreole to be very nice |
| 00:08.23 | Kueken | it improves the workflow a lot when creating huge posts |
| 00:08.57 | Kueken | although I usually use the BBCode setting anyways, because it also allows WikiCreole commands :) |
| 00:09.03 | Ahli | I want linebreaks where I make them :X |
| 00:09.09 | Kueken | true |
| 00:09.30 | Kueken | main reason why I keep it on BBCode setting |
| 00:16.37 | JademusSreg | Lemon Pepper Chicken Farfalle: Mission Complete. |
| 00:20.46 | DeadZergling | sounds like you been more productive than A1win today then, lol |
| 00:21.15 | Kueken | sounds delicious |
| 00:21.19 | Kueken | except the lemon |
| 00:21.24 | Kueken | doesn't seem to fit |
| 00:21.49 | JademusSreg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_pepper |
| 00:22.57 | Kueken | ah |
| 00:23.11 | Kueken | I thought it was a dish with actual lemons and peppers |
| 00:24.48 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:25.27 | JademusSreg | I enjoy eating either, but they don't make much of a meal. |
| 00:26.43 | Kueken | maybe in combination with Chicken and Farfalle |
| 00:28.03 | JademusSreg | Cut peppers, maybe, but the texture of lemons would not work well with the other components. |
| 00:28.54 | Kueken | my thoughts exactly |
| 00:29.06 | Kueken | hence my concerned response |
| 00:29.12 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:29.53 | Kueken | I always imagione you type out the exact laugh you are performing in real life |
| 00:30.15 | JademusSreg | Accurate. |
| 00:30.22 | Kueken | like, you type "ha" or "hah", sometimes "haha" and very seldomly "hahaha" |
| 00:31.25 | Kueken | I figure you are sitting, thinking about a joke or comment, going like "Hm. This is a 3 points out of ten amusement. I will now laugh once. Hah." |
| 00:34.42 | JademusSreg | I have heuristic humor subroutines to handle such evaluations below the threshold of conscious thought, but that is a fair approximation. |
| 00:40.50 | JademusSreg | Seems my Number-Crazy-One Fan enjoys news of new Futon Icicles, or at least that's what I gather from the picture it posted of a masturbating panda. |
| 00:53.39 | Otixa | Kueken is a gay bandito |
| 00:53.40 | Kueken | You find me seriously disturbed |
| 00:53.57 | Kueken | also I have no idea what you are talking about |
| 00:54.24 | JademusSreg | For a moment there, I thought he said "burrito". |
| 00:54.28 | Kueken | Otixa: Nah, I am usually on the legal side of things |
| 00:55.09 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 00:55.19 | Kueken | and "bandito" sounds spanish or mexican, could not have missed further in terms of mentality |
| 00:55.37 | Otixa | YAYAYAAYAYYAAY |
| 00:55.41 | DeadZergling | I prefer Raptor riding Banditos, myself |
| 00:57.56 | Otixa | punches DeadZergling in the tits |
| 00:58.35 | DeadZergling | Got a problem with banditos who ride raptors now Otixa? |
| 00:58.41 | Otixa | Yes >:[ |
| 00:58.54 | Otixa | Fuck you and your bandito raptor ways |
| 00:59.02 | Otixa | SHUN THE BANDITOS |
| 00:59.11 | Otixa | REPENT! REPENT! |
| 00:59.14 | Otixa | etc |
| 00:59.28 | Otixa | getting pretty tired ;p |
| 00:59.47 | DeadZergling | Oh, thought this was you being normal |
| 01:05.16 | Otixa | Hello? |
| 01:05.18 | Otixa | Hello?! |
| 01:05.21 | Otixa | DeadZergling, you there? |
| 01:05.25 | Otixa | Quick |
| 01:05.32 | DeadZergling | here for the moment |
| 01:05.47 | Otixa | I found the most awesome thing ever |
| 01:05.51 | Otixa | Like... ever |
| 01:06.27 | DeadZergling | heh, what? |
| 01:06.55 | Kueken | let me guess |
| 01:06.57 | Kueken | penis |
| 01:08.31 | Otixa | that I can make you wait 5min for me to tell you something ;p |
| 01:08.50 | DeadZergling | message time stamp suggests a different time |
| 01:09.03 | Otixa | shudup |
| 01:10.05 | DeadZergling | it's cool, i was watching videos, not just staring at the chat in suspense |
| 01:10.18 | Otixa | You lie |
| 01:10.26 | DeadZergling | No, I sit |
| 01:10.44 | Kueken | you lie, you stand |
| 01:11.52 | DeadZergling | Jade might favor standing while at a computer, as he is weird enough to |
| 01:12.04 | DeadZergling | but I generally sit, with some instances of reclining |
| 01:12.11 | Kueken | standing is weird? |
| 01:12.14 | Kueken | oh |
| 01:12.35 | Otixa | makes himself a moat |
| 01:12.48 | DeadZergling | enjoy texturing that Otixa |
| 01:12.54 | Otixa | ;c |
| 01:13.43 | Otixa | for some reason I wanna call DeadZergling Tristram |
| 01:14.03 | DeadZergling | What makes you want to say that? |
| 01:14.15 | Otixa | iunno |
| 01:24.26 | DeadZergling | More curious, what does Tristram mean to you? lol |
| 01:25.11 | Otixa | STAY A WHILE AND LISTEN |
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| 01:56.39 | Ahli | ^ |
| 01:57.08 | Ahli | http://i.snag.gy/ySPrE.jpg now with pips at the upgrade icons |
| 02:11.25 | Ahli | http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gameheart-redesigned yay, funded |
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| 02:25.31 | JademusSreg | Looking forward to seeing some fool attempting to crowdfund a pog revival. |
| 02:28.13 | Kueken | I could crowdfund my meth addiction |
| 02:28.37 | JademusSreg | That is brilliant. Just need a hook. |
| 02:30.49 | DeadZergling | at 50k, get a documentary about going to the hospital from an OD? |
| 02:31.09 | DeadZergling | at 200k, get an article of kueken's belongings after he finally ODs into a coffin? |
| 02:31.37 | Kueken | at 500k, get my firstborn? |
| 02:31.40 | JademusSreg | Hot damn, at this rate, you'll undercut half of TLC's programming. |
| 02:32.11 | DeadZergling | heh anyways, I'm o ut |
| 02:32.14 | DeadZergling | see you around |
| 02:32.22 | Kueken | or whats a child currently, considering inflation etc? |
| 02:32.25 | Kueken | bye |
| 02:37.06 | Kueken | 500k seems a little far-fetched, if its not of any notable noble descend |
| 02:37.46 | Kueken | and I would need to research my ancestors or forge some documents, either of which would be troublesome |
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| 02:38.25 | Lusia | Anyone here good with SC2 textures and normal maps? |
| 02:39.42 | Kueken | sorry, I am no match to Zolden |
| 02:40.07 | Kueken | what was the problem with his instructions? |
| 02:40.17 | Lusia | trying to get normal maps for my textures but this is my results |
| 02:40.18 | Lusia | http://snag.gy/0a21w.jpg |
| 02:41.40 | Kueken | how is it supposed to look like? |
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| 02:42.17 | MoonEater | So, Disabled behaviors still show on a unit? |
| 02:42.30 | MoonEater | thats why you do the double behavior trick? |
| 02:42.31 | Kueken | yes afaik |
| 02:42.59 | Kueken | not familiar with the trick, you make one behavior apply another and remove on disable? |
| 02:43.20 | Lusia | like this http://snag.gy/PrUCv.jpg |
| 02:44.05 | Kueken | and without normal map, it looks normal? |
| 02:44.26 | Kueken | as in, as supposed without the bumps |
| 02:45.02 | Lusia | no it doesn't |
| 02:46.21 | Ownage | how can I find out how many charges are available for a charge link? charges used for charge link is showing me 0, even though it's -1 used (1 avail) |
| 02:47.05 | Kueken | hm |
| 02:47.30 | Kueken | Lusia, unfortunately I don't know enough about normal textures to help you, I am afraid |
| 02:47.52 | Lusia | I can't find a tutorial on it |
| 02:47.56 | Kueken | Ownage: it worked correctly when I used it |
| 02:48.09 | Ownage | ok I'll see if I'm doing something stupid thanks |
| 02:48.14 | Kueken | do you use the correct location? |
| 02:50.26 | Kueken | charges always specify a location, player, ability, unit or global |
| 02:51.19 | Lusia | I have no clue what to do. |
| 02:52.00 | Kueken | Lusia: if noone here can help you, create a topic in the artist section on SC2mapster |
| 02:52.27 | Lusia | I'll end up with no replies with a thread |
| 02:52.37 | Kueken | or come back at another time and hope someone with more experience in your problem joins |
| 02:52.53 | Kueken | possible |
| 02:53.03 | Lusia | someone needs to write a tutorial for SC2 textures |
| 02:56.10 | Ownage | I have instant ability with button, charges are set to 10 max, 1 start, 1 use, not hidden |
| 02:56.11 | Otixa | I'm pretty sure that I already have |
| 02:56.13 | Otixa | l2forums |
| 02:56.24 | Otixa | Now, the reason I tabbed in here |
| 02:56.29 | Ownage | in game I see the button, with a 1 in it and if I click it once, the charge is used. |
| 02:56.39 | Otixa | ...Was something to do with Mr. Bunnyfluffles |
| 02:57.05 | Ownage | when I query with charges used of charge (chargelink) on ability (ability) on unit (unit) it gives me 0 |
| 02:57.11 | Ownage | (before casting) |
| 02:57.20 | Ownage | the charge location is set to unit |
| 02:58.02 | Otixa | Ownage, wear a pink bunny suit for me |
| 02:58.26 | Ownage | I never wear clothes when I IRC |
| 02:58.46 | Kueken | Ownage: post the trigger |
| 02:58.59 | Kueken | and put on a sock |
| 02:59.07 | Otixa | It's fucking 6 in the morning again >:[ |
| 03:00.05 | Ahli | 12 hours ago I started to sleep >_> |
| 03:00.36 | Lusia | I've checked the forums. I've found no tutorials on making the SC2 normal texture. |
| 03:01.07 | Otixa | Right, I'm making this last exception to the rule where I don't help people who I think don't deserve it ;p |
| 03:01.10 | Otixa | TADA |
| 03:01.10 | Otixa | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/9662-article-modelling-and-exporting-for-star-craft2/#p1 |
| 03:02.43 | Otixa | fucking hiccups >:[ |
| 03:03.08 | Ownage | 11am here |
| 03:03.32 | Lusia | that's for models. I'm only doing tileset textures |
| 03:03.49 | Otixa | ... ¬¬ |
| 03:03.50 | Kueken | that part looks intriguing, though |
| 03:03.56 | Kueken | Normal The normal map is the most retarded of them all. |
| 03:03.57 | Kueken | After you've finished work on your normal map, you need to do the following: Copy the red channel and paste it into alpha. Fill the red channel with pure white Fill the blue channel with pure black. |
| 03:03.57 | Kueken | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.57 | Kueken | If the normal map seems strange ingame, you should try inverting the green channel and re-importing. |
| 03:04.22 | Kueken | link to this: http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/starcraft2-normal-map-converter/files/ |
| 03:04.42 | Lusia | file isn't found on that assest |
| 03:04.53 | Lusia | asset* |
| 03:04.58 | Kueken | then you have to do the actions manually |
| 03:05.10 | Kueken | mapster's file system is acting up lately |
| 03:05.19 | Lusia | can't without some tutorial telling what to do |
| 03:05.24 | Otixa | ... |
| 03:05.29 | Otixa | Are you for real? >=[ |
| 03:05.47 | Otixa | "Copy the red channel and paste it into alpha. Fill the red channel with pure white Fill the blue channel with pure black." |
| 03:05.51 | Otixa | There. Tutorial'd |
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| 03:07.07 | Ownage | ah OK I got it now |
| 03:07.28 | Ownage | changing it all to player link worked, which is fine in this case |
| 03:08.10 | Otixa | I need to find someone who I can pay to sculpt shit for me ;/ |
| 03:08.32 | Lusia | Otixa, that didn't work |
| 03:08.47 | Lusia | texture in the SC2 editor is all messed up |
| 03:08.52 | Kueken | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:10.18 | Lusia | still didn't work |
| 03:10.32 | Kueken | then gogo forum post. |
| 03:10.53 | Kueken | include your textures, state what you already tried and ask what you did wrong and how to fix |
| 03:11.04 | Kueken | don't just post "help me" |
| 03:11.09 | Kueken | provide details |
| 03:11.21 | Kueken | then people will be more inclined to help you |
| 03:11.23 | Lusia | when I try a posting my problem no one ever replies |
| 03:11.41 | Kueken | maybe you are posting the wrong way |
| 03:11.53 | Otixa | np, we're all secretly financed by blizzard to act as tech support |
| 03:12.08 | Ahli | we are? |
| 03:12.14 | Otixa | lolno ;p |
| 03:13.14 | Kueken | we are not? |
| 03:13.47 | Otixa | smacks you all and fires up zbrush |
| 03:14.10 | Ahli | I need to get paypal now... do I need to pay taxes for paypal income? |
| 03:14.29 | Otixa | Not that I know of |
| 03:15.53 | Kueken | pretty sure its a grey area |
| 03:16.23 | Ownage | pretty sure it's not at all a grey area |
| 03:16.34 | Ownage | all income is taxable ;) |
| 03:16.44 | MoonEater | lol |
| 03:16.47 | Ownage | if you get audited you will find out |
| 03:16.54 | Otixa | not if they don't know about it ;p |
| 03:16.55 | MoonEater | barters are not taxable |
| 03:17.20 | Ownage | yes and thankfully paypal is on your side and would never leave any kind of trail, nor help the government |
| 03:18.56 | Kueken | totally |
| 03:19.19 | Ownage | accept bitcoins if you want to stay ahead of that kind of curb |
| 03:19.20 | MoonEater | right |
| 03:19.34 | MoonEater | thats why paypal fronze julian asange's paypal account? |
| 03:20.20 | Ownage | what exactly does 'best unit' do in abil flags anyway? |
| 03:20.49 | Ownage | it's not just a vote for your favorite unit I'm guessing |
| 03:21.04 | Ownage | haha I crack myself up because you fail at it |
| 03:21.04 | Ahli | closest unit will cast |
| 03:21.16 | Ownage | as opposed to what? |
| 03:21.28 | Ahli | as opposed to all units casting |
| 03:22.28 | Ownage | so if I have 5 ghosts with let's say snipe, and a ling, with best unit, one ghost will snipe the ling and without best unit on snipe, all of them will try? |
| 03:22.35 | Ahli | yes |
| 03:22.43 | Ownage | neat, thanks |
| 03:23.54 | Otixa | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/work/beam2.jpg |
| 03:23.59 | Otixa | this look wooden enuff? ;p |
| 03:24.39 | Ahli | looks like a sweet |
| 03:24.56 | Otixa | need to do 4 more of these ;/ |
| 03:27.51 | MoonEater | boss bar |
| 03:27.54 | MoonEater | is total garbage |
| 03:28.08 | MoonEater | soo frustrating that blizzard makes such shitty as code |
| 03:28.11 | MoonEater | and libraries |
| 03:28.37 | Kueken | makes me wonder how Blizzard Allstars will look like |
| 03:29.25 | MoonEater | Boss bar is such a shitty script |
| 03:29.32 | JademusSreg | Fact/ |
| 03:29.54 | MoonEater | i thought if i just turned it to dont refresh and did a manual refresh |
| 03:29.59 | MoonEater | it wouldnt be so god damn shitty |
| 03:30.29 | Lusia | grrrrr :( |
| 03:30.52 | MoonEater | jade you have any boss bar libraries? |
| 03:30.58 | Otixa | smacks Lusia with his tablet pen |
| 03:31.48 | JademusSreg | Nope, I've not needed to make one, but I doubt one needs a library. |
| 03:32.16 | Lusia | i can't get it to make the normal maps correctly. even following what someone said |
| 03:32.39 | Lusia | its not giving me the correct results |
| 03:32.47 | MoonEater | Boss Bar + library is decent? |
| 03:32.53 | MoonEater | doesnt do that laggy mess? |
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| 03:37.16 | Lusia | i need help. this doesn't work: "Copy the red channel and paste it into alpha. Fill the red channel with pure white Fill the blue channel with pure black." for making SC2 normals |
| 03:39.38 | JademusSreg | UnitStatusBar class, line # 243 http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/7445/ |
| 03:42.00 | JademusSreg | A UnitStatusBar dialog control templating from a custom frame definition based on UnitStatusHealthBar with the values configured should get it running automagically. |
| 03:42.06 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 03:53.47 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=h-APhVy0-Q8#t=2770 |
| 03:55.44 | MoonEater | Ahli, is this you? |
| 03:55.53 | Ahli | no |
| 03:56.12 | Ahli | but that's something I just found on reddit and I'm sitting here with an open mouth staring at the screen |
| 03:57.41 | Ahli | that guy will present that on blizzcon this year, lol |
| 03:59.31 | MoonEater | wtf... |
| 04:01.02 | Lusia | making a normal map for a texture is a real pain |
| 04:01.12 | Lusia | still won't work right grrrrrrrr |
| 04:08.18 | Otixa | Ahli, fairly interesting |
| 04:08.31 | JademusSreg | Targett needs a guide to sartorial style. |
| 04:09.16 | JademusSreg | And a social psychologist to chat with him about his body language and posture. |
| 04:11.08 | Otixa | body language |
| 04:11.20 | Otixa | is that like when I fart so it kinda sounds like words? :D |
| 04:11.56 | JademusSreg | Well, perhaps that is within the category. |
| 04:12.00 | MoonEater | well thats an hour of my life that i want back |
| 04:12.31 | MoonEater | JHade |
| 04:12.35 | MoonEater | that boss bar + |
| 04:12.40 | MoonEater | isnt very efficient |
| 04:12.50 | MoonEater | the loops make it very bad |
| 04:12.57 | JademusSreg | Moon, you missed my response, apparently. |
| 04:13.30 | Lusia | :( stupid photoshop |
| 04:13.40 | Otixa | groans |
| 04:13.45 | Otixa | Lusia, wtf are you even doing? |
| 04:13.49 | MoonEater | jade |
| 04:13.53 | MoonEater | i didnt understand it |
| 04:13.55 | MoonEater | thats why |
| 04:13.57 | MoonEater | its xml |
| 04:14.00 | MoonEater | not galaxy |
| 04:14.19 | Lusia | trying to make the damn normal map for a texture that I want to use for a tileset |
| 04:14.26 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 04:14.34 | Lusia | but no matter what i try it messes up |
| 04:15.06 | MoonEater | JademusSreg u saying i should just make a new one right? |
| 04:15.09 | MoonEater | same page? |
| 04:15.41 | JademusSreg | I'll explain in way that is both simple and will amuse me. |
| 04:16.01 | MoonEater | i hate it when it amuses u |
| 04:16.36 | Otixa | Lusia, that's an awesome description of the exact issue |
| 04:16.39 | Otixa | Very helpful |
| 04:17.56 | Lusia | I need to make the normal map for this http://snag.gy/E9h8z.jpg |
| 04:20.16 | JademusSreg | Moon open UI editor. Moon make new frame. New frame type UnitStatusHealthBar. New frame set elements. Elements like IncreaseDuration and DecreaseDuration. Use new frame as template for dialog control. Dialog control type UnitStatusBar. Link to boss unit. Moon have self-update boss bar. Oog. |
| 04:20.43 | MoonEater | lolz |
| 04:20.46 | MoonEater | right |
| 04:21.10 | Otixa | peers at JademusSreg |
| 04:25.35 | Lusia | I guess no one will help me then |
| 04:25.36 | Lusia | :( |
| 04:25.38 | Ahli | 43 days without editing my diablo map will end now :) |
| 04:25.59 | JademusSreg | Lusia, aka Razernok, aka Iiris. |
| 04:26.22 | JademusSreg | aka Iiris_Frost |
| 04:26.51 | Lusia | I ask for help. someone gives me a way which turns out not to work so they give up |
| 04:27.12 | Lusia | so no one will help |
| 04:28.40 | Otixa | No, you repeat the same retarded bullshit over and over again hoping for a different answer |
| 04:28.58 | JademusSreg | And probably also Frostwind. |
| 04:29.10 | Lusia | because i need help and what i was told didn't work |
| 04:30.16 | JademusSreg | Draw a picture, a diagram, of how it should work. |
| 04:30.22 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 04:30.39 | Lusia | i just want to get the damn texture's normal map made so i can import it into SC2 |
| 04:30.43 | Lusia | thats it |
| 04:30.49 | JademusSreg | Actually, I've not been paying attention. You're probably confusing normal map with height map. |
| 04:30.53 | Lusia | but no one will tell me how to |
| 04:31.21 | Lusia | no, its called normal map |
| 04:31.26 | Otixa | double facepalms |
| 04:31.27 | Otixa | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/SC2/derptardnormal.tga |
| 04:31.32 | Otixa | here's your retarded normal |
| 04:31.34 | Otixa | now go away |
| 04:32.53 | Lusia | I need some damn help with this. no tutorials for this on the forums |
| 04:33.13 | Otixa | peers at JademusSreg again |
| 04:33.56 | JademusSreg | It's easy to make a shitty normal map. A good normal map requires making a model. |
| 04:34.10 | Lusia | its only a texture. no model |
| 04:34.11 | JademusSreg | So are you making a shitty normal map or a good normal map? |
| 04:34.21 | Lusia | this is for a tileset texture |
| 04:34.33 | Otixa | He wants to make a shitty normal map, has no idea what the fuck is happening |
| 04:34.39 | Otixa | Refuses to follow simple instructions |
| 04:34.44 | Otixa | And is generally obnoxious |
| 04:35.02 | Lusia | i followed the damn instructions and i said they didn't fucking work |
| 04:35.10 | Otixa | See, this is why I don't generally help people >;/ |
| 04:35.21 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I don't do step-by-steps. |
| 04:36.23 | JademusSreg | But you'll note that Blizz generated their normal maps by using models, and baking the geometric detail into the normal map to produce the textures. |
| 04:36.37 | JademusSreg | So if you want a good normal map, you make a model. |
| 04:36.39 | Otixa | JademusSreg, nah, shit is fakeable |
| 04:36.45 | Lusia | omfg |
| 04:36.48 | JademusSreg | -good- |
| 04:36.51 | Otixa | Even I generate some in shoop sometimes :P |
| 04:36.59 | Lusia | its a normal map for a tileset texture |
| 04:37.24 | JademusSreg | Otixa, you an I both know the difference between a shopped and a properly generated normal map, come on now. |
| 04:37.34 | JademusSreg | I'm just laying out the options. =D |
| 04:37.43 | Otixa | JademusSreg, nDo, beeotch! :D |
| 04:37.45 | Lusia | no model |
| 04:38.11 | Otixa | Actually, I did one model entirely in nDo, and it looks pretty damn good imo |
| 04:38.39 | Otixa | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/10032576/Models/misc/ddo.jpg |
| 04:38.48 | Otixa | nDo2, dDo and shoop :P |
| 04:38.57 | JademusSreg | Lusirisfrostwindnok, that's fine, if you want a shitty normal map. But Blizz used models to make their terrain texture normals. That's probably why there are a bunch of useless terrain cube models in the assets. |
| 04:38.57 | Otixa | (max for modeling obviously) |
| 04:39.02 | Lusia | HOW THE FUCK DO I MAKE THE DAMN NORMAL MAP!!!!! |
| 04:39.36 | JademusSreg | Lusirisfrostwindnok, to make a shitty normal map in photoshop, yeah? |
| 04:39.58 | JademusSreg | I assume you have photoshop. |
| 04:40.02 | Otixa | JademusSreg, I already linked him my article |
| 04:41.02 | Otixa | Actually |
| 04:41.10 | Otixa | Ahli, were you the one doing the diablo thing? |
| 04:41.37 | Ownage | HOW DO I DUPE? YOU HAVE METHOD? |
| 04:41.49 | Ahli | Yes, I'm that diablo guy |
| 04:41.53 | Lusia | This is what I was told to do to make a normal: "Copy the red channel and paste it into alpha. Fill the red channel with pure white Fill the blue channel with pure black." THIS DIDN'T FUCKING WORK!!!!!! |
| 04:42.02 | Otixa | Ahli, want that door ^? ;p |
| 04:42.13 | JademusSreg | Hold on, Lus. |
| 04:42.14 | Ownage | can you link me your diablo project |
| 04:42.45 | Ahli | http://www.staredit.net/topic/13323/unread/#special |
| 04:43.34 | Ownage | you got a website for that monster? what stage is it at |
| 04:43.44 | Ahli | hmmm... how does it look opened? |
| 04:43.54 | Ahli | which monster? |
| 04:44.05 | Otixa | just the arc ;p |
| 04:44.13 | Otixa | it's not animated or anything tho |
| 04:45.17 | Ahli | I might have used it as an entry to the first dungeon level |
| 04:45.38 | Lusia | omfg |
| 04:45.43 | Ahli | that you open via a click on it (unless butchered guy spawns, then it would already be opened) |
| 04:46.47 | Otixa | eh, just remind me to release it when I wake up |
| 04:47.17 | Otixa | have a few more assets that I can share from my cathedral scene |
| 04:47.28 | Otixa | (no, I'm not giving you guys the stained glass ;p) |
| 04:48.05 | Ahli | I appreciate stuff that I can use as doodads inside my dungeons |
| 04:48.27 | Otixa | ...I can sell you the stained glass >:D |
| 04:51.06 | Lusia | still no damn help |
| 04:51.59 | JademusSreg | I expect you didn't follow the tutorial properly. |
| 04:52.07 | Lusia | i did follow it |
| 04:52.11 | JademusSreg | Oh wait. |
| 04:52.11 | Lusia | it didn't work |
| 04:52.26 | JademusSreg | Terrain texture normals are different. |
| 04:52.39 | JademusSreg | Having made them, I should have remembered that sooner. |
| 04:52.53 | Lusia | This is what i was told to do which didn't work: "Copy the red channel and paste it into alpha. Fill the red channel with pure white Fill the blue channel with pure black." |
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| 04:54.01 | JademusSreg | So you do have photoshop? |
| 04:54.09 | Lusia | yes |
| 04:54.59 | JademusSreg | Which version? |
| 04:55.05 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:55.30 | Lusia | CS5 |
| 04:55.57 | JademusSreg | And which version of the nvidia photoshop plugin for dds support do you have? |
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| 04:57.59 | Lusia | 8.55 |
| 04:59.06 | Lusia | which is the latest according to the site |
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| 05:04.22 | Otixa | k, sleepy times |
| 05:04.23 | Otixa | o/ |
| 05:04.44 | JademusSreg | Well, basically, the final product will look grey-scaled. To accomplish this, you save it as a DXT5_NM using some value or another, like Alpha channel, to inform the normal height, which if done correctly will result in a ridiculously blue-purple texture. Then white the red channel, black the blue, save as DXT5. |
| 05:05.02 | JademusSreg | Well, greyscaled or orange-scaled. |
| 05:06.53 | Lusia | SC2 normal maps are orange not grey |
| 05:07.06 | JademusSreg | But these only have an effect on how light is rendered on the material; it doesn't render a distortion of the geometry the way a height map would, but terrain textures don't seem to support height maps anymore. |
| 05:07.55 | JademusSreg | Some are grey, but whatever. |
| 05:08.07 | Kueken | Lusia: Actually, many of the normal maps SC2 uses are grey as well, especially those used by terrain textures |
| 05:08.16 | Lusia | if I try to use the terrain texture without the normal map it looks crappy |
| 05:08.33 | JademusSreg | *like wc3 |
| 05:08.35 | JademusSreg | Harhar |
| 05:09.04 | Lusia | i saw a custom tileset that uses orange normal maps |
| 05:09.23 | Lusia | trying to recreate it but it won't work |
| 05:09.50 | Lusia | the normal maps mess up the texture in the editor and ingame |
| 05:11.00 | JademusSreg | I've made custom terrain textures, it's not some huge ordeal. There's nothing wrong with the tutorial, Otixa is a goddamn modeler, people use that tutorial; if it's not working, that's because -you're doing it wrong- and -blaming other people-. |
| 05:11.40 | JademusSreg | Try again until you succeed. |
| 05:11.43 | Lusia | This is the results of his tutorial followed exactly http://snag.gy/momVM.jpg |
| 05:11.56 | JademusSreg | Specular much? |
| 05:12.08 | JademusSreg | Also, alpha channels are important. |
| 05:12.10 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 05:12.29 | Lusia | i did exactly what he said "Copy the red channel and paste it into alpha. Fill the red channel with pure white Fill the blue channel with pure black." |
| 05:17.44 | JademusSreg | Make sure you have a specular texture set. |
| 05:18.45 | Lusia | i don't see that in the SC2 editor |
| 05:19.15 | JademusSreg | I'll rephrase. |
| 05:20.04 | Lusia | well i see one for creep |
| 05:20.35 | JademusSreg | For terrain textures, you have diffuse and normal. The diffuse alpha channel functions as a specular; how intensely that part of the texture responds to light relative to other parts. |
| 05:21.01 | JademusSreg | It is obvious your diffuse texture lacks an appropriate alpha channel. |
| 05:21.46 | JademusSreg | The normal map is working, and since there;s no alpha channel in the diffuse, it treats that shit like fullbright. |
| 05:21.49 | JademusSreg | Understand? |
| 05:22.30 | Lusia | Here is the two terrain textures https://www.dropbox.com/sh/p126qj8saa6ma9w/c4DXZRVMBZ |
| 05:22.49 | JademusSreg | Why? |
| 05:23.05 | Lusia | if you want to look at it |
| 05:23.36 | JademusSreg | I don't need to look; having made my own, I know the problem from the screenshot. |
| 05:24.20 | Lusia | so what do I need to do then? |
| 05:24.24 | JademusSreg | The only other possible explanation would be a size mismatch between the textures, and I doubt that's the case. |
| 05:24.39 | JademusSreg | So that leave fixing the alpha channel of the diffuse texture. |
| 05:25.58 | Lusia | is that just the normal texture? |
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| 05:29.17 | JademusSreg | Diffuse is the one with the colors. |
| 05:30.30 | Lusia | ok |
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| 05:41.10 | MoonEater | Jade |
| 05:41.28 | Lusia | so....? |
| 05:41.31 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 05:42.46 | MoonEater | i was testing a recreation of the sonic ping |
| 05:42.53 | MoonEater | and somthing very strange happened |
| 05:43.02 | MoonEater | i keep getting negative numbers |
| 05:43.29 | MoonEater | theres a wait of 5 seconds on the song |
| 05:43.36 | JademusSreg | I already moved that out of the resource section. |
| 05:43.39 | MoonEater | and a wait of 5 seconds on a trigger |
| 05:43.55 | MoonEater | i know |
| 05:44.03 | MoonEater | but it seems like a good idea |
| 05:44.27 | JademusSreg | Sure if it worked, which it doesn't. |
| 05:44.36 | MoonEater | why wouldnt it work |
| 05:44.42 | MoonEater | concept seems stait forward |
| 05:44.46 | Lusia | what do i do to my diffuse texture??? |
| 05:45.00 | MoonEater | wait on a sound file wait on a trigger timer |
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| 05:46.10 | MoonEater | compare |
| 05:46.12 | MoonEater | results |
| 05:46.12 | JademusSreg | Lus add channel Alpha. Lus make sure channel alpha not all white. Make sure not all black. Lus make white and black alpha channel. OOK oog. Help make less shiny. Grok. |
| 05:46.52 | MoonEater | oog?? |
| 05:47.02 | MoonEater | Jade why wouldnt the sonic ping work |
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| 05:47.53 | JademusSreg | Because sync can send and receive from other sync, sync can send to async, but async can't send to sync, that causes desync. |
| 05:48.54 | MoonEater | try again but without all the sync |
| 05:49.01 | MoonEater | i swear u try to be complicated |
| 05:51.23 | MoonEater | jade? |
| 05:51.38 | Lusia | this is the alpha channel diffuse texture for another tileset. how did he do that? |
| 05:51.57 | JademusSreg | Triggers are synced, SoundWait (sound s, fixed offset, int offsetType) waits until 'sound' is 'offset' seconds from the 'offsetType' (start or end). |
| 05:52.10 | JademusSreg | Note there's no player parameter, Moon. |
| 05:52.21 | MoonEater | there is |
| 05:52.28 | MoonEater | play sound |
| 05:52.40 | MoonEater | play sound for player |
| 05:52.49 | MoonEater | set sound to variable array |
| 05:52.55 | JademusSreg | No, that takes a playergroup, -and- the sound itself is still synced. |
| 05:52.58 | MoonEater | then wait sound on the proper variable |
| 05:53.02 | MoonEater | no |
| 05:53.10 | MoonEater | convert player to player group |
| 05:53.15 | JademusSreg | Dear void. |
| 05:53.48 | MoonEater | so you can play and track sounds for different players |
| 05:53.52 | JademusSreg | The sound exists for everyone, simple. |
| 05:53.59 | MoonEater | how? |
| 05:54.04 | MoonEater | i told it |
| 05:54.09 | Kueken | If Jade was capable to explode from frustration, it would have happened at least twice today alone |
| 05:54.15 | MoonEater | to play for a playgroup of 1 |
| 05:54.35 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 05:54.38 | JademusSreg | absconds. |
| 05:54.41 | MoonEater | why would the system play it for players outside the group? |
| 05:55.16 | Kueken | it isn't played for everyone |
| 05:55.29 | MoonEater | [22:53] <JademusSreg> The sound exists for everyone, simple.???? |
| 05:55.33 | Kueken | but all clients are aware that the sound is currently played, so to speak |
| 05:55.33 | MoonEater | then what does that mean? |
| 05:56.02 | MoonEater | your saying that all the players have to "metaphysicaly" play the sound? |
| 05:56.37 | Kueken | Jade recovered some hitpoints by making Kueken google words |
| 05:56.47 | Kueken | it was super effective |
| 05:57.13 | Kueken | thin of it this way |
| 05:57.15 | Kueken | *k |
| 05:57.39 | Kueken | game sends play this sound to all players, then mutes it for those that shouldn't hear it |
| 05:57.59 | MoonEater | akak metaphysically |
| 05:58.00 | MoonEater | and also |
| 05:58.02 | MoonEater | thats gay |
| 05:58.17 | Ahli | game doesn't send sound... |
| 05:59.01 | Ahli | trigger code is processed on everyone's computer. Game keeps track on who has which sound file played... it just doesn't actually play it to the person that shouldn't receive it. |
| 06:00.14 | MoonEater | that makes more sence |
| 06:01.35 | Lusia | this shit isn't working :( |
| 06:27.09 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 06:27.25 | Kueken | that would be me |
| 06:27.25 | MoonEater | if thats the case how does sound become out of sync |
| 06:27.57 | Kueken | I was just trying to paint a picture, what Ahli said is more correct |
| 06:28.27 | MoonEater | so then if i tell players to play a sound |
| 06:28.35 | MoonEater | all players will recieve a command to play sound |
| 06:28.40 | MoonEater | which thier scripts would run |
| 06:29.03 | MoonEater | but the issue is the the game time is sync |
| 06:29.07 | MoonEater | so waits wont work? |
| 06:29.12 | Ahli | the players get the event that starts the trigger... |
| 06:29.23 | MoonEater | ah |
| 06:29.26 | MoonEater | so really |
| 06:29.47 | MoonEater | i just need to make an event and test how long it takes for players to complete that event? |
| 06:29.56 | MoonEater | wait |
| 06:29.59 | MoonEater | thats more confusing |
| 06:30.24 | Ahli | ? |
| 06:30.29 | Ahli | what's your goal? |
| 06:30.32 | MoonEater | try to determin lag |
| 06:30.44 | MoonEater | was looking at the sonic ping |
| 06:30.51 | MoonEater | but they saying that doesnt work |
| 06:31.16 | Ahli | well, you can't measure ping in data only, else you desync the game and bnet failed |
| 06:31.23 | Ahli | *code |
| 06:31.31 | Ahli | *the game itself... |
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| 06:31.50 | MoonEater | resay i dont know were code goes |
| 06:31.51 | MoonEater | XD |
| 06:32.16 | Ahli | well... one option would be showing a dialog and measure the time until the player moves his mouse over that dialog |
| 06:32.35 | MoonEater | oh right |
| 06:32.39 | MoonEater | not even that |
| 06:32.41 | Ahli | that might work |
| 06:32.50 | MoonEater | but i could perhaps |
| 06:32.55 | MoonEater | hmm. |
| 06:34.17 | Ahli | but since that dialog item would interact with the mouse, it would stop commands, so you can't do that when the player would be able to do anything in the map |
| 06:36.11 | MoonEater | mouse move |
| 06:36.32 | MoonEater | when the mouse is moved i can start timer and stop it when the next move comes |
| 06:37.44 | Kueken | that would successfully measure the time between 2 mouse movements |
| 06:37.54 | Kueken | what would that achieve? |
| 06:38.27 | MoonEater | well u have any ideas how to test for lag? |
| 06:39.21 | MoonEater | kueken |
| 06:40.48 | Kueken | well, since any asynchronous function unaffected by lag cannot interact with any synchronous function affected by lag, there is no reliable way, unless there is a native function for latency |
| 06:41.07 | Ahli | why do you need to know that there is lag, anyway? |
| 06:41.17 | Ahli | oh wait, I know one use case already |
| 06:41.51 | Kueken | and any other possible way would rely on some form of human input, and thus be prone to human error |
| 06:42.15 | Kueken | at least to my knowledge |
| 06:42.27 | MoonEater | dialog button pressing game? |
| 06:42.30 | Ahli | the hovering over a fullscreen dialog item wouldn't have errors, I believe |
| 06:42.55 | Kueken | pretty sure hovering doesn't trigger if the mouse doesn't move |
| 06:43.05 | Ahli | oh, that would be bad :D |
| 06:43.24 | Ahli | I just test it... nuff said |
| 06:43.47 | Kueken | maybe it was changed, I tested something similar before |
| 06:44.13 | Kueken | I believe I used a unit highlight event, though, maybe dialogs are handled differently or some patch changed it |
| 06:51.25 | Ahli | offline it's zero :D |
| 06:55.32 | Ahli | 0.1777 is the real time delay on EU for me |
| 06:57.33 | Ahli | kueken, ready for a multiplayer test? |
| 06:58.26 | Ahli | need someone on EU's bnet for a ping test attempt |
| 06:59.38 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 06:59.49 | Kueken | sc2 prompts me to rename my SC2 charakter |
| 07:00.14 | Ahli | kueken is truely offensive |
| 07:00.32 | Kueken | I use an "ü" |
| 07:00.47 | Ahli | nobody is able to even type your name |
| 07:01.06 | Ahli | in other games everyone runs around with special chars |
| 07:01.21 | Kueken | :) |
| 07:01.34 | Kueken | where do I find my battle-tag again? o_0 |
| 07:01.48 | Ahli | when you add another person's one |
| 07:01.57 | Ahli | Ahli 634 |
| 07:02.05 | Ahli | or just join sc2mapster channel |
| 07:02.33 | MoonEater | wait |
| 07:02.37 | MoonEater | u use button hover? |
| 07:02.43 | MoonEater | or unit selection ? |
| 07:02.50 | Ahli | you still use an ü... I'm using the dialog thing right now |
| 07:03.17 | Kueken | damn, I wasnt in bnet for like a year or something... |
| 07:03.27 | MoonEater | ajli what r u using? |
| 07:03.29 | MoonEater | dialogs? |
| 07:07.58 | Ahli | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3218 what did I do wrong? |
| 07:09.00 | Kueken | triggering player |
| 07:09.08 | Kueken | hm |
| 07:09.14 | MoonEater | lol |
| 07:09.17 | MoonEater | interesting |
| 07:09.19 | Kueken | it should trigger for all players right? |
| 07:09.31 | Ahli | well, everyone should start the trigger for himself... |
| 07:09.38 | Kueken | oh |
| 07:09.48 | Kueken | and the text is only displayed to himself as well |
| 07:09.56 | Ahli | only for me? |
| 07:10.03 | Ahli | oh yeah.. righ |
| 07:10.03 | Kueken | I got my own delay |
| 07:10.11 | Ahli | oh well :) |
| 07:10.25 | Kueken | .222 for both tests, btw |
| 07:10.42 | Ahli | me 2 I think |
| 07:10.46 | Kueken | well within the .250 default bnet delay, I suppose |
| 07:10.46 | Ahli | first with u had that value |
| 07:11.12 | Ahli | moon, mind joining the test? |
| 07:11.15 | Kueken | ah |
| 07:11.19 | Kueken | its real time right? |
| 07:11.21 | Ahli | I want to know if they can be different |
| 07:11.22 | Ahli | yes |
| 07:11.24 | Kueken | and faster speed? |
| 07:11.25 | Ahli | real time timer |
| 07:11.38 | Ahli | faster speed, real time timer |
| 07:12.40 | Ahli | I need someone from another continent |
| 07:12.43 | Ahli | than EU |
| 07:13.19 | Kueken | we could test on us server |
| 07:13.47 | Ahli | but we got the same connection approximatly... I want to know if it can be different for the people in a game |
| 07:14.38 | Ahli | JademusSreg: we need u |
| 07:18.46 | Kueken | Ahli: start |
| 07:18.52 | Kueken | I want to test something |
| 07:19.15 | Ahli | I won't focus the game |
| 07:19.19 | Ahli | tell me if I activate it |
| 07:19.23 | Kueken | same her e :) |
| 07:19.32 | Ahli | haha |
| 07:19.44 | Kueken | 6.7 |
| 07:19.48 | Kueken | harsh |
| 07:19.51 | Ahli | 9.something |
| 07:19.55 | Ahli | when I tabbed in and moved |
| 07:20.02 | Kueken | so we can control our ping |
| 07:20.08 | Kueken | yes |
| 07:20.15 | Ahli | but you can make the test for players that activate it themselves |
| 07:20.30 | Ahli | else just assume 0.250 or a value from another player |
| 07:21.11 | Kueken | or you start after a hover as well, to increase the chance of success |
| 07:21.32 | Ahli | *after a mouse moved |
| 07:21.47 | Kueken | or this |
| 07:22.36 | Kueken | but what do you actually do once you have the delay? |
| 07:22.47 | Kueken | calculate player input .25 seconds in advance? |
| 07:23.00 | Ahli | record data for the player for 0.25 seconds ^^ |
| 07:23.05 | Ahli | use that data... no idea |
| 07:23.22 | Ahli | that would be the logic for an antilag in a FPS game |
| 07:23.42 | Ahli | where you aim somewhere and your data is recorded over a time to fight the delay |
| 07:24.11 | Ahli | then your data will more likely match with the actual position when the input was issued |
| 07:25.12 | Ahli | I'm in teamliquid's irc and it's dead.... but tons of people are inside the channel |
| 07:28.23 | Kueken | reminds me of something... |
| 07:28.39 | Kueken | how many people are idling here? |
| 07:29.06 | Ahli | 42 - Ahli - Kueken |
| 07:29.58 | Kueken | perfect balance |
| 07:30.09 | Kueken | noone is to join or leave! |
| 07:31.58 | Ahli | but I might want to sleep 1-2 hours because I woke up at 1am |
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| 07:33.36 | Bounty | pew |
| 07:33.47 | Ahli | bounty, I need u |
| 07:34.08 | Ahli | do you have a minute for a a tiny test to measure pings? |
| 07:34.11 | Bounty | Not sure how to even respond to that as the first thing said to me |
| 07:34.30 | Kueken | we could throw in a "hi" |
| 07:34.34 | Ahli | hello |
| 07:34.39 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:34.48 | Bounty | What do I have to do? |
| 07:34.51 | Ahli | may you join NA or EU bnet |
| 07:35.01 | Ahli | and tell me where you join |
| 07:35.13 | Bounty | thats it? |
| 07:35.33 | Ahli | then I will host a map, invite you, then it starts, you need to focus the game when it starts, then after 3 seconds a text with a value appears |
| 07:35.42 | Ahli | you can leave afterwards |
| 07:35.50 | Bounty | what do you mean by focus the game |
| 07:36.01 | Ahli | not being tabbed out |
| 07:36.05 | Kueken | not tab out |
| 07:36.06 | Bounty | ah ok |
| 07:36.06 | Ahli | so the mouse focus is on sc2 |
| 07:36.11 | Bounty | give me a few mins so I can eat |
| 07:36.15 | Bounty | i'll help |
| 07:36.24 | Bounty | effing 3:30am |
| 07:36.24 | Ahli | shoots himself :D |
| 07:36.33 | Bounty | Hey man I just woke up |
| 07:36.36 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:36.39 | Bounty | hungry as shit |
| 07:36.47 | Ahli | effing 9:36 am I woke up 8 hours ago and ate some choclate with nuts |
| 07:36.52 | Kueken | its 9:30 here, and we need to go to sleep |
| 07:37.01 | Bounty | We all have diff bodies |
| 07:37.14 | Ahli | I wrote my bachelor thesis and skipped a day |
| 07:37.27 | Bounty | Well I didnt, and im hungry |
| 07:37.28 | Kueken | and I am just out of synch |
| 07:37.30 | Bounty | lol |
| 07:42.09 | Ahli | 0.2222 is my value on NA, too, when I'm playing alone |
| 07:42.40 | Ahli | I will just test all servers in the meantime |
| 07:51.14 | Ahli | so, my values: EU: 0.1777, NA: 0.2222, SEA: 0.3555,KR: 0.4888 Multiplayer test on NA: same value 0.1777 [doesn't mean anything as that couldbe my real ping] |
| 07:51.39 | Ahli | so EU > NA > SEA > KR for me |
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| 07:55.01 | Kueken | very distinct values |
| 07:55.14 | Kueken | coincidence or some sort of hard caps? |
| 07:55.35 | Ahli | NA value was lower within another game, so I assume they fluctuate |
| 07:55.38 | Kueken | ah nvm |
| 07:55.51 | Kueken | multiples of 0.0625 obviously |
| 07:56.01 | Ahli | yeah, game loops |
| 07:56.11 | Ahli | but that's the only thing that matters |
| 07:56.14 | Kueken | with game time vs real time factor |
| 07:56.56 | Kueken | you could use a 0 wait loop instead of the timer for a more accurate result |
| 07:57.01 | Kueken | if you need |
| 08:04.57 | Ahli | my ping results in # skipped game frames with faster game speed (connected from EU): EU: 4, NA: 5, SEA: 8, KR: 11... (for comparison: one game second has 16 frames). |
| 08:06.37 | Bommes | Ahli: Grats for the Gameheart funding |
| 08:06.44 | Bommes | worked out in the end :) |
| 08:06.56 | Ahli | yay, 710¤ for me |
| 08:07.12 | Bommes | don't we all need some ¤? |
| 08:35.45 | bobbytables567 | Oh crap, I've create a grenade that spawns itself. |
| 08:44.32 | Kueken | sounds familiar |
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| 09:06.40 | bobbytables567 | Oh gosh, now it spawns an archon. What have I done... |
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| 09:26.06 | Ahli | I'm publishing a ping test map on all servers :D |
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| 10:18.03 | bobbytables567 | That sounds useful. |
| 10:20.05 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430449#1 |
| 10:24.29 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxpLiQgdTI0 |
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| 10:29.41 | Zolden | TWOD!!! |
| 10:32.21 | Zolden | retextured wow motherfucker: http://i.snag.gy/Zjtzr.jpg |
| 10:32.25 | Zolden | isn't it too red? |
| 10:32.47 | Zolden | i want it red, but not too much, he's not one of those red motherfuckers |
| 10:44.09 | A1win | this is the first thing that came to my mind from it: http://richardwilson.typepad.com/tvgrouting/images/zwerthers_1.jpg |
| 10:47.18 | Zolden | hmm |
| 11:14.10 | Zolden | is this phoney? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vppZaxLykt4 |
| 11:17.44 | Stewox | zolden stop that |
| 11:17.52 | Stewox | it's disturbing to me |
| 11:17.57 | Stewox | and it's not on the topic |
| 11:18.40 | Stewox | some kind of nonsense |
| 11:18.47 | Stewox | take it elsewhere |
| 11:18.55 | Stewox | right NAO |
| 11:28.32 | Zolden | i want to grow it and eat it |
| 11:29.36 | G0A | wow nice simple txt rpg: http://adarkroom.doublespeakgames.com/ |
| 11:32.28 | G0A | Zolden nothing phoney about it, its not the first time... |
| 11:33.50 | Zolden | he said it's not genetically modified, which is strange |
| 11:34.03 | Zolden | how could it evolve naturally, even with intense selection |
| 11:34.36 | Zolden | (guess that thing requires lots of light to generate sugar for both) |
| 11:35.07 | G0A | Zolden its grafting... |
| 11:35.32 | G0A | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grafting |
| 11:37.07 | G0A | though its quite interesting that he says he has commercially usable grafting method for it. |
| 11:40.38 | Zolden | grafting? they sell seeds, don't they? they grafted seeds? |
| 11:40.56 | Zolden | but if it's grafting, than it's not that exciting |
| 11:41.09 | Zolden | too trivial |
| 11:41.48 | G0A | http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-24281192 |
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| 11:48.58 | Zolden | fucking noobs |
| 11:49.13 | Zolden | hope next attempt will be real and include manipulations with genes |
| 11:58.41 | twodie | i want tomatoes now,sa.,da |
| 11:59.32 | twodie | pfff only apples......... |
| 12:01.14 | Zolden | apples are everywhere this year |
| 12:01.42 | Zolden | almost as everywhere as Apple gadgets |
| 12:02.10 | Zolden | but nature still overfucks imposters and imitators |
| 12:05.33 | Zolden | interesting, making fire rain as a model instead of making it in data - is it more or less noob? |
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| 12:20.46 | Stewox | so G0A you weren't alerted by zolden's use of offtopic |
| 12:20.56 | Stewox | it's a crime you know |
| 12:22.37 | Stewox | TomPotato |
| 12:22.50 | Stewox | wow this is beyond absurd |
| 12:24.32 | Zolden | feeds Stewox with a tasty genetically modified fruits |
| 12:25.19 | Stewox | all that gmo stuff makes this report http://static.ewg.org/reports/2013/water_filters/2013_tap_water_report_final.pdf look like child's play |
| 12:26.51 | Zolden | sends huge gmo spiders into Stewox lair |
| 12:32.20 | Stewox | maybe if text is not attractive enough, a video should be http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-XJz5HSCME |
| 12:33.51 | Stewox | and a flouride test here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-Hzui4Qpl4 |
| 13:01.54 | Dustin | Morning gents |
| 13:03.10 | Zolden | sends genetically modified morning sun into Stewox windows |
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| 13:05.21 | Ownage | on my map when testing on bnet, I have the option to change from 3v3 to other team sizes, how can I disable that and force 3v3 |
| 13:05.51 | Ownage | correction: it doesn't let me change it, it just shows other values in dropdown |
| 13:05.59 | Ownage | can I disable that dropdown completely? |
| 13:06.02 | Dustin | I just scrapped all my variant/attribute settings because, fuck them, so I don't remember |
| 13:07.19 | Zolden | Dustin yea, memory isn't the stoner's strongest part |
| 13:09.12 | Zolden | when I was smoking about 1 gramm of strong buds everyday for months, I even sometimes said something to people I have said it before, or opposite, I stopped myself with "wait, I have said it to you b4, haven't I?" |
| 13:09.57 | Zolden | but that smoking mode is fallacious |
| 13:11.29 | Zolden | hough, I could do hardcore programming, but even a few days pause would cause me to forget most of variables and function names |
| 13:12.49 | Zolden | but still drugs are friends of creativity: cocain, amphetamine, marijuana: what would musicians, writers and programmers do without? they'd suck! |
| 13:13.50 | Dustin | I saw an article where they gave LSD or Mescaline to 26 scientists and they cameup with prototypes for some crazy badass shit |
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| 13:14.33 | Zolden | yea, some scientists even witnessed that their stuff they understood under LSD, like DNA structure |
| 13:15.47 | Dustin | I've been reading a lot of new studies showing the posative effects of LSD on the brain |
| 13:15.56 | Dustin | It's interesting |
| 13:17.15 | Zolden | I heard prisoners were given some psilosybine and all went for love and good and peace |
| 13:22.51 | Zolden | A1win check this song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X35MBRVNWbs |
| 13:23.06 | Zolden | but don't concentrate, jsut keep doing your stuff, let it play on background |
| 13:23.35 | Zolden | twodie you too try it |
| 13:23.44 | twodie | im scared of it |
| 13:23.49 | Otixa | groans and yawns |
| 13:23.52 | Zolden | just keep listening |
| 13:24.08 | Zolden | it has a certain beautiful part in the center |
| 13:24.19 | Zolden | when the bitch starts singing |
| 13:24.53 | Zolden | like quartz crystals in a vulcanic stone |
| 13:26.27 | A1win | mmh |
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| 14:00.05 | Zolden | how's this as firestorm? http://i.snag.gy/pS9rH.jpg |
| 14:01.08 | Dustin | looks cool |
| 14:02.31 | Zolden | what would you add for higher realism? |
| 14:03.37 | Otixa | ehmahgerd lyk fiya nd shit |
| 14:05.17 | Dustin | Maybe some particle fire trailing from the firebolts? |
| 14:05.51 | Dustin | Maybe a firecloud if you're feeling frisky. |
| 14:06.14 | Dustin | http://davepics.com/Album/2005/08-26.Burning_Man/romeo_8059.jpg |
| 14:06.34 | Dustin | Something like that would look cool |
| 14:06.57 | Zolden | ok, i'll try |
| 14:07.45 | Otixa | WHERE ARE THE OTHER DRUGS GOING??!?! |
| 14:09.10 | Zolden | to kids? |
| 14:09.58 | G0A | Dustin read about thumbprint lsd. |
| 14:17.00 | Dustin | I willl |
| 14:17.28 | Otixa | Hello? |
| 14:17.37 | Otixa | Dustin is a pooper scooper |
| 14:18.23 | Dustin | I had to scoop my cats litterbox this morning :( |
| 14:21.13 | Zolden | for lunch? |
| 14:21.20 | Otixa | xD |
| 14:30.38 | Dustin | For breakfast |
| 14:32.10 | Zolden | added some smoke and changed fiya http://snag.gy/I3vl3.jpg |
| 14:37.46 | Dustin | Oh that looks nice |
| 14:38.26 | Zolden | thanks |
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| 14:57.19 | Dustin | Zolden, can you add attachment points to doodads? |
| 14:58.00 | Zolden | from wol? |
| 14:58.18 | Dustin | Im not sure if it's wol or hots |
| 14:58.58 | Zolden | can you just use local offset? |
| 15:00.25 | Dustin | I probably could, but then id have to make a new beam weapon |
| 15:00.37 | Dustin | Is it hard to add attachment points? |
| 15:01.00 | Dustin | It's Assets\Doodads\HybridGenerator\HybridGenerator_01.m3 |
| 15:06.52 | Dustin | Im going to need to mess with attachment points soon anyway so I can make all the "armors" use the same attachment point for launch effects |
| 15:07.26 | Dustin | I'll just figure this out and do it myself so I don't have to bother you with more later :) |
| 15:08.25 | Zolden | i don't see a problem: create a site, raise it with a local offset, use it as beam's impact host |
| 15:08.48 | Zolden | i'm realy lazy to do shit that can be fixed within editor |
| 15:09.51 | Stewox | zolden, can you do a little favour |
| 15:09.53 | Dustin | This here ya I can fix, but Im going to need to figure it out to get my weapon launches to work with different models |
| 15:10.01 | Stewox | ask dustin from which city is he from |
| 15:10.27 | Dustin | Zolden, I use the beam on two different models |
| 15:10.56 | Dustin | I was looking for a way to not have to remake the beam, but it seems I'm going to for now |
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| 15:14.20 | duckies | G0A in or out today? |
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| 15:14.42 | Stewox | duckies do a little favour for me willya |
| 15:14.56 | duckies | what you want? |
| 15:15.39 | Stewox | ask dustin from what city is he from, i got something on a report i have some numbers he'll be interested in :p he ignored me, but don't tell him i asked you or he'll go berserker-mode |
| 15:17.34 | duckies | eeh, I can't think of a good enough reason to ask that particular question to a random person on the internet. You can ask someone else to do that though |
| 15:17.53 | Stewox | ah |
| 15:18.02 | Zolden | Dustin site + local offset will work for both |
| 15:19.51 | Stewox | I found it anyways |
| 15:20.07 | Stewox | dustin is from Wichita, Kansas |
| 15:22.01 | Stewox | For Wichita: Total Trihalomethane Running Annual Average (in parts per billion) = 25.0 ;;;; Haloacetic Acids Running Annual Average (in parts per billion) = 11.0 |
| 15:22.35 | Stewox | surprisingly he's on the low ... so it's on the better water quality than other places in US |
| 15:22.45 | Stewox | good news for dustin :) |
| 15:32.32 | G0A | duckies out sadyl |
| 15:32.54 | duckies | tomorrow too? |
| 15:33.41 | duckies | Zolden, you're back! |
| 15:33.59 | duckies | welcome back =D cchhhaaains? |
| 15:36.15 | Zolden | yea, i'm back |
| 15:36.22 | Zolden | maybe chains |
| 15:39.10 | duckies | well, it's not urgent, maybe you'll even need some for your own stuff |
| 15:39.53 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?&v=_k0fnTiKEMc |
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| 15:52.10 | Serashin | hi ~~ |
| 15:52.50 | twodie | high |
| 15:53.22 | twodie | touch finally mapping or play any total wars game? yeah... |
| 15:53.28 | G0A | duckiesnext day I will be on the NA map night |
| 15:54.02 | duckies | eh, we'll see if I can keep myself awake next day ;/ |
| 15:54.14 | duckies | did you already test yar map |
| 15:55.41 | G0A | not in multi.D |
| 15:56.00 | G0A | I already started making another map, I might finish it next day.D |
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| 15:57.51 | duckies | D= you sure are fast |
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| 16:05.34 | twodie | well that didnt lasted long |
| 16:05.48 | Zolden | twodie mapmaking? |
| 16:05.53 | twodie | totalwaring |
| 16:06.38 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Knowledge Base / Policy / Project Acceptance Policy - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/knowledge-base/policy/project-acceptance-policy/ |
| 16:06.45 | twodie | now lets try mapping |
| 16:11.34 | twodie | need new mouse TT |
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| 16:12.55 | Zandose | hey. could someone help me with a math problem involving points |
| 16:13.08 | Zandose | hmm |
| 16:13.15 | twodie | why the fuck the mouses wheel needs aditional keys like when moving to sides it should move screen to sides or seomthing... now its just broken... |
| 16:14.06 | Zandose | sorry, why would the mouse wheel move to the side of the screen? |
| 16:15.19 | twodie | fucking mouse cant map......... |
| 16:15.55 | Zolden | Zandose cmon |
| 16:16.02 | Zolden | what math |
| 16:16.14 | Zolden | meth helps to math |
| 16:16.26 | Zolden | math helps to get meth |
| 16:16.29 | Zandose | making a forum post about it. should have done that first then linked here. my bad. give me a min or two |
| 16:16.50 | Zolden | give you a mineral or two? how about vespene gas? |
| 16:17.02 | Zolden | or two |
| 16:17.21 | Zandose | ^ i would but i dont want to get high. harder to map when i cant see stright |
| 16:17.24 | twodie | that kind shit: http://g-ecx.images-amazon.com/images/G/02/uk-electronics/product_content/Logitech/Q1/M345-02-lg._V142115184_.jpg |
| 16:17.49 | Zandose | higher-end mouses can do that? |
| 16:17.58 | twodie | no |
| 16:18.05 | twodie | they dont use such broken feature |
| 16:18.38 | Zolden | my mouse have additional buttons for the thumb to do that |
| 16:19.17 | bobbytables567 | Those buttons are page back/forward? |
| 16:19.23 | bobbytables567 | That's stupid. |
| 16:19.36 | twodie | so now i cant press the wheel as the wheel is using any of the side buttons and not middle one of the wheel |
| 16:19.50 | twodie | no they dont do anything now |
| 16:19.52 | twodie | and never did |
| 16:20.21 | twodie | they maybe where for the pages that have wider stuff included to navigate |
| 16:20.33 | Zolden | twodie open it, fix it, close it, use it, map it |
| 16:20.47 | twodie | need glueee |
| 16:21.05 | twodie | all of the tubes i already used for my own pleasure |
| 16:21.12 | Zolden | mouses use screws |
| 16:21.32 | Zolden | all of the youtubes? |
| 16:21.37 | twodie | plus i have done that multiple times and had glued that shit up so... |
| 16:22.29 | twodie | fucking will broke it down!!!!!! |
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| 16:22.59 | Zolden | YEAH!!!!!!! PUNCH IT UNTIL OPENED!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 16:23.28 | Zolden | AND PINCH 2-3 MORE TIMES AFTER |
| 16:24.00 | Zolden | also shit inside |
| 16:24.08 | Zolden | also, call it a shit |
| 16:24.19 | twodie | mouse is a SHIT |
| 16:24.22 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:24.59 | Zolden | what was the attack of wc1 conjurer? |
| 16:25.09 | Zolden | firebolt? |
| 16:25.12 | Zolden | lightning? |
| 16:25.16 | Zolden | lightning bolt? |
| 16:25.56 | Zolden | oh, fireball, i remember now |
| 16:26.04 | Zolden | mages in warcraft all had fireballs |
| 16:26.04 | twodie | zolden what you creating? |
| 16:26.08 | bobbytables567 | http://wowpedia.org/Conjurer_(Warcraft_I) this conjurer? |
| 16:26.14 | Zolden | just a conjurer unit |
| 16:26.24 | Zolden | yea, this one |
| 16:26.54 | Zandose | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/58178-help-point-with-polar-offset-but-a-3d-version/ |
| 16:29.02 | Zandose | trackball mouse? |
| 16:35.11 | Zandose | So Mr. Zolden.... |
| 16:38.11 | Stewox | zolden do you know what is probably the most well spent things money can buy today ? |
| 16:38.44 | Stewox | to defend against radiation and flouride |
| 16:39.20 | Stewox | http://www.infowarsshop.com/Survival-Shield--Nascent-Iodine_p_1104.html# |
| 16:40.04 | Stewox | iodine deficiency is the root cause of diseases and prostace cancer |
| 16:40.46 | Zolden | Zandose you got the answer |
| 16:40.53 | Zandose | ty |
| 16:42.52 | Zandose | Stewox have to researched this indepth? A lot of people try to sell products by quoting souces (Shocking Statistics About Iodine) but are just taking what they want/need and leaving the rest of the research, the whole story, and conclusions just to sell it. |
| 16:43.42 | Stewox | not every iodine is for nutritional use |
| 16:44.05 | Stewox | you shouldn't take it unless it's specifically as nutrition |
| 16:44.15 | Stewox | and yes, there are fakes and "magic stuff" |
| 16:44.42 | Stewox | but infowars and natural news don't do such stuff as the staff is personally taking them |
| 16:45.34 | Stewox | this is special nascent iodine, it was announced just a few days ago , and just now I'm listening to the radio show, he said that it took them 5 months to get it passed for selling |
| 16:45.48 | Zandose | eh |
| 16:46.03 | Zandose | I've seen trends in health products come and go |
| 16:46.09 | Zandose | ill wait |
| 16:46.17 | Stewox | the govt makes this type of iodine like something evil, it was hard getting it past DEA |
| 16:46.33 | Stewox | well yeah, not everything is really what it claims |
| 16:48.01 | Stewox | naturalnews.com is your best bet on getting vetted stuff, mike adams who runs naturalnews, just got his own labolatory with a legal license he can operate those machines, they test independently all products they sell, inhouse now, they outsourced before but still they test it twice before selling |
| 16:49.18 | Stewox | zandose you don't have to buy this if you are not poisoned by flouride, it is also used for anti-radiation so having this at home just in case isn't a bad idea considering all the fukushima stuff going around, depends when you live |
| 16:49.41 | Zandose | I'd perfer outsourcing the testing as you get back a more unbiased result compared to inhouse testing which is more bias. |
| 16:49.56 | Zandose | i guess |
| 16:50.05 | Zolden | noobs -> http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/snova_17/42505524/301204/301204_original.gif |
| 16:50.18 | Stewox | but anyways, the northern earth hemisphere has already background nuclear radiation everywhere, southern hemisphere has much muhc lower levels of background radiation, if you have good health this may not be problem, and good health requires iodine |
| 16:50.31 | Zandose | anyways im going to stop discussing it now as I find it mote to argue in circles about it. |
| 16:51.06 | Stewox | Zandose, www.naturalnews.com does not produce the products, it distributes them, they test everything they sell on the website, they don't rely only on the manufacturer test |
| 16:52.27 | Otixa | glares at Stewox |
| 16:53.31 | Stewox | Otixa, you mind sharing what city do you live (just the larger city, not detailed) |
| 16:53.41 | Otixa | Why? |
| 16:53.45 | Stewox | i have some statistics from a report |
| 16:53.58 | Stewox | but only for US |
| 16:54.04 | Otixa | rolls his eyes and goes back to work |
| 16:56.55 | Zolden | work raft |
| 16:58.25 | twodie | Zolden so what you making for workraft? |
| 16:58.37 | twodie | with all those maes |
| 16:58.38 | twodie | mages |
| 16:59.13 | Zolden | squad td sequel |
| 17:00.00 | twodie | any better screens of your work done? |
| 17:02.17 | twodie | glued that fucking wheel up. hope that will make the difference! |
| 17:02.18 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/o6Hhd.jpg |
| 17:03.04 | duckies | cool angels |
| 17:03.31 | Zolden | snow queens are cooler |
| 17:05.04 | duckies | you de-winged one l. |
| 17:05.06 | duckies | ;/ |
| 17:06.13 | twodie | mmm, i just feel that sad incoming winter... ^^ |
| 17:06.30 | Dustin | Hmm anyone know why a missile would only attack a units Origin instead of a random point on their model? |
| 17:06.38 | Dustin | I think I missed setting something |
| 17:07.05 | Zolden | twodie yea |
| 17:07.09 | Zolden | is it cold there? |
| 17:07.13 | Zolden | we had snow yesterday |
| 17:07.38 | Zolden | Dustin go to model, add target |
| 17:07.45 | Zolden | like colossus has |
| 17:07.49 | Zolden | attachment |
| 17:08.02 | twodie | quite normal still, but the song i just listened to brought back those winter days |
| 17:08.35 | Zolden | Dustin also, attack actor's impact site op - set it to SopAttachTarget |
| 17:11.06 | Dustin | Where on the model do I add this target? |
| 17:11.19 | Zolden | attachments something |
| 17:11.23 | Zolden | check model of colossus |
| 17:13.16 | Dustin | hmmm alrighty |
| 17:15.03 | Dustin | Ya that didnt seem to do anything. weird |
| 17:18.47 | twodie | fuck it, seems like now its only worse |
| 17:19.03 | Zolden | punch it until it's better |
| 17:19.06 | Zolden | works for my mouse |
| 17:20.34 | twodie | seems like the one of those last options |
| 17:21.46 | twodie | well i was wrong 9 of 10 times pressed it works |
| 17:21.57 | twodie | as supposed to |
| 17:22.17 | twodie | http://youtu.be/-ywveFJMVx8 |
| 17:23.05 | twodie | omg zolden what you doing again :D |
| 17:23.15 | twodie | those crazy shiny visuals |
| 17:24.45 | twodie | Map night? |
| 17:24.53 | Zolden | maybe |
| 17:38.36 | twodie | have 5. and sixth mapping, updating |
| 17:43.55 | Zolden | twodie how to get into map night? |
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| 17:44.46 | twodie | here is the group: starcraft://group/2/130284 |
| 17:44.52 | Ownage | can I change the button for an ability only on a certain unit type? |
| 17:44.57 | twodie | open as a link? |
| 17:47.52 | Ownage | I know I can do it for the player, but is there a unit scope for this? |
| 17:47.57 | Ownage | or unit type scope? |
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| 18:10.34 | Triceron | Zolden |
| 18:12.15 | twodie | 4 |
| 18:12.17 | twodie | 7 |
| 18:12.33 | Zolden | hey |
| 18:12.46 | Triceron | help me out with an idea |
| 18:13.08 | Triceron | i have a unit with spinning helicopter blades |
| 18:13.20 | Triceron | they're always gonna be spinning |
| 18:13.28 | Zolden | track sets |
| 18:13.30 | Triceron | I wanna make em look motion blurred though |
| 18:13.47 | Triceron | like, stylized spinny |
| 18:13.58 | Triceron | not just 4 sticks spinning |
| 18:14.08 | Zolden | aren't track sets have tutorial in new art tools? |
| 18:14.40 | twodie | Zolden inc? |
| 18:15.27 | Triceron | what do I need track sets for? |
| 18:18.08 | Triceron | what I'm trying to figure out is how I should approach a faux motion blur effect |
| 18:18.10 | Triceron | a trailing effect |
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| 18:22.38 | AndChat320025 | Test |
| 18:29.30 | Zolden | Triceron rimmob |
| 18:29.32 | Zolden | ribbon |
| 18:29.48 | Zolden | just configure it to be like you want |
| 18:29.58 | Triceron | can make it look blurred? |
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| 18:39.56 | Ownage | so is that a no then? no way to change button of an ability on a un it or unit type scope instead of player? |
| 18:42.01 | Zolden | Triceron yea |
| 18:42.18 | Zolden | for example, set end alpha to 0 |
| 18:42.26 | Triceron | Hmmm |
| 18:43.45 | Zolden | i was at map night, now can answer faster |
| 18:44.25 | Zolden | you need lngth type of ribbon |
| 18:44.29 | Zolden | i guess |
| 18:44.40 | Zolden | probably planar |
| 18:44.52 | Zolden | with the texture you want to imitate the blur |
| 18:44.57 | Zolden | or jsut color |
| 18:45.04 | Zolden | in add blend modwe |
| 18:45.37 | Zolden | you can set both start and end alpha to like 100 |
| 18:45.44 | Zolden | for constant blur |
| 18:45.58 | Zolden | play with segments amounts to make it look smooth |
| 18:46.04 | Zolden | probably set speed to 0 |
| 18:46.36 | Zolden | uncheck word space |
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| 18:53.50 | Triceron | gonna test that out |
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| 18:57.39 | Bommes | http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamController/ |
| 18:58.34 | Triceron | gone are the days of button mashing |
| 18:58.48 | Triceron | Circle spin to win! |
| 18:59.06 | Bommes | I hate trackpads |
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| 19:06.13 | Kueken | Shark |
| 19:06.59 | Zolden | Fark |
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| 19:10.06 | Fate_ | is funmapnight? |
| 19:12.43 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:12.46 | Zolden | go there |
| 19:12.56 | Fate_ | where? |
| 19:14.36 | Zolden | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:14.40 | Zolden | this |
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| 19:55.22 | Zolden | Triceron I think Mage's "Fidget" anim should be called "Spell" |
| 19:57.18 | Otixa | Bommes, @steamctrl: That actually seems acceptable |
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| 20:17.19 | Bommes | Otixa, it doesn't look bad but I don't think its my kind of thing. I really dislike using Touchpads. |
| 20:17.32 | Bommes | That said, I don't even own a TV so I'm not the audience for this thing in the first place, so that's cool. |
| 20:23.00 | Dustin | Damn |
| 20:23.07 | Dustin | I've been going at my map hard today |
| 20:23.40 | Zolden | hit it |
| 20:23.53 | Stewox | zolden, you're from russia right ? |
| 20:25.39 | Stewox | i've just randomly found this http://rus.telegram.ee/ , well you guys have russia today there so it's not like this is something new but could be useful |
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| 20:51.41 | JademusSreg | Zoop. |
| 21:00.42 | Bommes | Zup. |
| 21:01.12 | Triceron | Zap. |
| 21:01.20 | A1win | I took a different approach to this "movement on basic level of gameplay", and instead of making the skills and abilities that the players can use grant extra movement, they *require* movement points for certain effects, such as, well, movement, and knockbacks, or even for extra damage, so that now the players need to choose whether to spend their movement points on simply moving or on the effect costs |
| 21:02.22 | A1win | it's normally not possible to move after using skills and abilities, so skills and abilities that allow movement at the cost of movement points give you an advantage even if it's just 1 move for 1 movement point |
| 21:04.02 | A1win | being able to move *after* a knockback before enemies have had a chance to fill that spot again can be very useful |
| 21:04.52 | A1win | or being able to move back into a choke point after attacking enemies in an open area |
| 21:06.21 | A1win | this gonna be so awesome, already the mechanics feel better than any other dungeon crawl board game I've played D: |
| 21:09.03 | JademusSreg | Clever. |
| 21:13.27 | Kueken | Zip. |
| 21:13.37 | Zolden | Zep |
| 21:22.37 | Bommes | Zork. |
| 21:23.14 | Zolden | Zieben |
| 21:24.49 | ZandoseAFK | hey zolden. i was wondering if the "PointWith3DOffset" takes into account the correct distance for the z offset or is just using the xy distance |
| 21:25.10 | ZandoseAFK | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/58178-help-point-with-polar-offset-but-a-3d-version/#p2 |
| 21:28.07 | Torhal | peers at Sixen. "He's doing it again. Mind you, it's been an hour, but still...this has become an every day thing." |
| 21:28.30 | Dustin | You guys see this? http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/11115943/ |
| 21:30.12 | Zandose | updated http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/map-development/58178-help-point-with-polar-offset-but-a-3d-version/#p3 |
| 21:30.43 | Zolden | http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/snova_17/42505524/198156/198156_original.jpg |
| 21:31.16 | Zolden | Zandose have my formulas helped? you just change the "r" since you know the angle |
| 21:32.19 | Zandose | i believe i can make it work but i would like to fully understand what its doing for the future |
| 21:32.51 | Zolden | you said you need angle in 3d. It means you need 2 angles in spheric coordinates |
| 21:33.19 | Zolden | then you need to place the model closer, and make it smaller |
| 21:33.53 | Zandose | xy and z? |
| 21:34.02 | Zolden | yea |
| 21:35.38 | Zolden | then multiply model's scale by 1/x and the range by 1/x too |
| 21:38.26 | Zandose | i could be totoally off but how can you apply the L (dx, dy) distance to Q (dz). shouldnt the z offset have its own thing? |
| 21:39.48 | Zandose | guess i dont get how the z angle works |
| 21:41.00 | Zolden | q in my post is angle between surface and vector |
| 21:41.23 | Zolden | sec, i'll draw |
| 21:41.30 | Zandose | could you explain that to a stupid person (namely me)? |
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| 21:44.15 | Zandose | forget it. i have to go in a min so ill bug you about it another time, if you dont mind :) |
| 21:47.43 | Zolden | ZandoseAFK http://i.snag.gy/v1hTD.jpg |
| 21:52.23 | Bommes | Zolden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieJJIzprFiY&feature=youtu.be&t=33s |
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| 21:55.23 | Zolden | i like sound of german spelling |
| 21:55.23 | Zolden | but not when noobs trying to imitate it |
| 21:55.24 | Serashin | o.O , spelling has sound |
| 21:55.24 | Serashin | ? |
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| 21:55.24 | Zolden | is "spelling" when you write words? |
| 21:55.24 | Zolden | than sound of german speech |
| 21:55.24 | Zolden | also british |
| 21:55.24 | Zolden | also french |
| 21:55.24 | Zolden | also italian |
| 21:55.24 | Serashin | ye just clicked the link ^^ appolo faillording german :D |
| 21:55.24 | Zolden | fuck, they all sound beautiful |
| 21:55.24 | Zolden | except american |
| 21:55.26 | Kueken | german sounds beautiful? |
| 21:55.26 | Kueken | about 90% of world population disagrees :D |
| 21:55.26 | Zolden | there is a common rule: 90% of anything is bullshit |
| 21:58.15 | Zolden | i wish to listen to roman tribune speech |
| 21:58.27 | Zolden | but i don't have time machine |
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| 22:06.36 | Bommes | about 90% of statistics are made up on the spot |
| 22:18.02 | Zolden | fractal fishing http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/snova_17/42505524/166620/166620_original.jpg |
| 22:20.05 | Bommes | Jesus sends you money http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaFCGx3SIFs |
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| 22:50.46 | Repo | New map: Abathurs Isle - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/abathurs-isle/ |
| 23:27.04 | Dustin | Weird, I have a variable that for some reason stopped setting itself in game |
| 23:27.17 | Dustin | Yet everything else in the code seems to run fine |
| 23:30.36 | Stewox | where the hell is Siege Tank Weapon Search Area ? |
| 23:30.43 | Stewox | siege mode |
| 23:34.52 | Zolden | you raped your map, what else would you expect? |
| 23:51.15 | Kueken | Stewox: it doesn't use a search area effect |
| 23:51.29 | Kueken | instead it uses the area field of the damage effect |
| 23:51.37 | Stewox | then how the heck do i increase the radius ? |
| 23:51.48 | Stewox | damage is only dummy lol ? |
| 23:51.53 | Kueken | no |
| 23:52.04 | Kueken | the damage handles the area itself |
| 23:52.20 | Kueken | damage effects are capable of hitting an area without the help of a search |
| 23:52.51 | Stewox | well i can't find where i can set radius of splash damage |
| 23:53.56 | Kueken | the siege weapon is a little confusing, it has a weird setup for the upgrades from the WoL campaign, which reduce splash damage on allies and improve impact damage without affecting splash |
| 23:56.53 | Kueken | Stewox: Have a look at the "Search: Area +" field for the "Crucio Shock Cannon Blast" |
| 23:57.02 | Kueken | effect |
| 23:58.36 | Stewox | weird |
| 23:58.42 | Stewox | siege mode doesn't even use this |
| 23:58.49 | Stewox | i found it now yes |
| 23:58.53 | Stewox | but not before |
