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| 02:43.25 | Zandose | hi |
| 02:48.43 | Zandose | hello¿ |
| 02:50.56 | Daara | sup |
| 02:51.20 | Zandose | the usual |
| 02:52.32 | Zandose | you? |
| 02:52.53 | Daara | doing some test runs on a model :D |
| 02:53.09 | Zandose | is modeling hard? |
| 02:53.17 | Daara | it can be frustrating |
| 02:53.22 | Daara | but "hard", not really |
| 02:53.51 | Zandose | im more into the code and writing a code which would generate a model |
| 02:56.03 | Zandose | but it also has it hard pasts too. can't get the generated terrain to move correctly |
| 02:59.42 | Zandose | what you making a model for? |
| 02:59.54 | Daara | it's the most complex WoW model anyone has done :P |
| 03:00.03 | Daara | i can turn armor meshes on and off |
| 03:00.09 | Daara | have different types of hair |
| 03:00.11 | Daara | cloaks |
| 03:00.13 | Daara | etc. |
| 03:00.33 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/FemaleVariations_zpscd7cf153.jpg |
| 03:00.51 | Daara | 3mb's for the model and about 200kbs per different set or armor |
| 03:01.14 | Zandose | oh, so one model and multiple textures sets |
| 03:01.31 | Daara | basically, and it can look like it's wearing cloth, light, medium, or heavy armor |
| 03:01.40 | Zandose | nice |
| 03:01.52 | Daara | and can change hair styles/color, show/hide tabard and cloaks |
| 03:02.09 | Daara | it also has 200 animations |
| 03:02.09 | Zandose | are you using just different textures or are you making extra models for "attaching" different things |
| 03:02.28 | Zandose | 200 animations.... wtf is this for |
| 03:02.30 | Daara | the only things that get attached are helmets, shoulders and items in the hands |
| 03:02.38 | Daara | it can be anything |
| 03:02.50 | Daara | i can give it a bow, and it'll use bow attack animations |
| 03:02.57 | Daara | give it sword, it swings with 1h |
| 03:03.19 | Daara | uses the correct animations based on what type of weapon it is using |
| 03:03.22 | Zandose | hows all these animations affect the file size? |
| 03:03.31 | Daara | i thought it would make it huge |
| 03:03.35 | Daara | but it didn't |
| 03:03.49 | Daara | my previous one had like 60 animations and was 2mbs |
| 03:04.03 | Zandose | i guess animations dont hit it too hard |
| 03:04.14 | Zandose | just broke my map loading somehow |
| 03:04.17 | Daara | =\ |
| 03:04.26 | Zandose | new one to me |
| 03:04.34 | Daara | honestly i'm doing the most annoying part right now |
| 03:04.55 | Daara | adding stuff the actors events tab |
| 03:05.06 | Daara | just to make sure everything works the way i want it |
| 03:14.31 | Zandose | well appearantly the game cant handle 1000 actor messages to move at once |
| 03:15.30 | Zandose | project terminated.... |
| 03:23.35 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/FemaleHumanVariations_zps84cc0d81.jpg |
| 03:23.38 | Daara | works in game :D |
| 03:24.21 | Zandose | you making a rpg? |
| 03:24.35 | Daara | no, i had something else in mind |
| 03:25.26 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/AlliancePreview_zpsde8e0aa7.jpg |
| 03:25.57 | Daara | terrain is still under work |
| 03:26.37 | Zandose | what kind of map is that? |
| 03:27.33 | Daara | it will be a 5v5 alliance vs horde type game |
| 03:27.43 | Daara | better view of the city |
| 03:27.45 | Daara | http://fc04.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/031/9/c/alliance_city_by_smotis-d5tf70l.jpg |
| 03:28.07 | Daara | i have a lot of newer models i haven't put in yet |
| 03:29.00 | Zandose | dota? |
| 03:29.02 | Daara | i doing construction animations for most of the buildings too |
| 03:29.28 | Daara | maybe a little bit like dota, but there's only 1 lane, and it's more focused on capturing and advancing your army |
| 03:29.49 | Daara | you can gather materials to make your army stronger and make yourself new armor |
| 03:30.11 | Daara | you can pay for your city to build more towers and farms etc |
| 03:30.26 | Daara | which will increase their army size or defenses |
| 03:32.22 | Daara | that castle model took me like 5 days lol to get into sc2 |
| 03:32.38 | Zandose | not my kind of map |
| 03:48.00 | Lepton | hello |
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| 03:49.31 | Lepton | anyone here good with AIs? |
| 03:49.36 | Luisa | Hey, anyone if there is a good 3rd party SC2 editor that doesn't lag like the official SC2 editor??? |
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| 03:52.39 | Lepton | didnt even know there were 3rd party editors |
| 03:53.02 | Lepton | but i agree with the official editor lagging like shit part |
| 03:53.46 | Luisa | I lag so much I can't do shit |
| 03:54.21 | Lepton | about the same for me |
| 03:54.31 | Lepton | i gotta wait 30 seconds every time I click something in data |
| 03:55.18 | Luisa | and people wonder why SC2 map development is so long |
| 03:55.27 | Lepton | and if T ahve the bad luck of missclick on F2 I gotta wait 5 minutes |
| 03:55.38 | Lepton | of not being able to use anything |
| 03:56.43 | Lepton | anyway, anyone know how I could make a computer player behave like an idle player? |
| 03:57.02 | Lepton | aka I give control of the computer to another player and he can use it normally |
| 03:57.53 | Lepton | i tried "Player - Turn player 2 Shared Control Off towards player 2" |
| 03:57.53 | Lepton | but it disables all the rallies |
| 03:59.57 | Luisa | I guess no one else is here :( |
| 04:00.23 | Luisa | I want to go work on my game inside the editor, but not with all the damn lag |
| 04:07.14 | Stewox | im here |
| 04:07.17 | Stewox | luisa |
| 04:07.27 | Stewox | just woke up |
| 04:07.41 | Stewox | what's with the lagf |
| 04:08.01 | Luisa | do you know if there is a good 3rd party SC2 editor that doesn't lag like the official SC2 editor??? |
| 04:09.26 | Stewox | sorry, there is no such thing as a 3rd party editor, you can manually edit scripts and data , but that requires direct knowledge of all the XML and Script code which could take you many months to fully be familiarized |
| 04:09.52 | Luisa | I've seen 3rd party editors |
| 04:09.55 | Stewox | if you can explain me where the lag is or what, how, and when, maybe i can help reducing the lag |
| 04:10.18 | Stewox | well I don't know any and I'm in the scene from 2010, those editors are scripts only |
| 04:10.42 | Luisa | all of the editor lags, from terrain editor to triggers editor to data editor |
| 04:11.31 | Stewox | okay then this seems to be a PC thing |
| 04:11.42 | Lepton | you no say stewox? |
| 04:11.48 | Stewox | but it's not your fault, the editor is badly optimized for HDDs |
| 04:11.55 | Lepton | not everyone has a blazing fast pc |
| 04:12.09 | Luisa | SC2 runs fine though, along with any other game i play, or program i run |
| 04:12.48 | Stewox | it's not about processor speed, it's designed in a weird way and doesn't load stuff into memory, keeps loading from HDD and generally it's not optimized well in this area |
| 04:13.03 | Luisa | I'm using a SSD |
| 04:13.10 | Stewox | well really ? |
| 04:13.21 | Luisa | yes |
| 04:13.24 | Stewox | if that's the case then this will be easier |
| 04:13.50 | Stewox | how much do you know about PCs in general, windows tweaking, etc ? so i know how to proceed ? |
| 04:14.04 | Luisa | quite a bit |
| 04:14.07 | Stewox | did you build the PC your self ? |
| 04:14.16 | Luisa | no |
| 04:14.29 | Stewox | so it's OEM or ... ? |
| 04:15.00 | Stewox | OEM means it's been assembled already by some company |
| 04:15.11 | Luisa | alienware |
| 04:15.28 | Stewox | okay then it's OEM, but alienware should be good |
| 04:15.44 | Luisa | it is except for this single program |
| 04:15.54 | Stewox | well I first need to see what I'm working with, i've troubleshooted lag before on my PC , when i didn't had ssd yet |
| 04:16.05 | Stewox | so you'll need to tell me all the major specs |
| 04:16.19 | Stewox | do you know what CPU-Z is ? |
| 04:17.03 | Stewox | you need to download that to get the specs |
| 04:17.07 | Luisa | 180GB SSD, 12 GB 1333 DDR3 ram, Geforce GTX 260 SLI 1.5 GB ram |
| 04:17.19 | Stewox | ah okay |
| 04:17.24 | Stewox | and CPU ? |
| 04:17.33 | Stewox | and HDD |
| 04:17.51 | Luisa | Intel I7 920 |
| 04:18.14 | Luisa | I have SC2 on my 180GB SSD along with the OS |
| 04:18.43 | Stewox | same here |
| 04:18.46 | Stewox | now |
| 04:18.56 | Stewox | cpu speed ? |
| 04:19.05 | Luisa | 2. |
| 04:19.09 | Stewox | I don't know that one, it appears it's an older model from me |
| 04:19.12 | Luisa | 2.67Ghz |
| 04:19.19 | Stewox | i have Sandy Bridge-E |
| 04:19.25 | Luisa | bloomfield |
| 04:20.51 | Stewox | okay but it shouldn't have made this much of a difference, it's close to me, sc2 editor should not be that demanding |
| 04:21.08 | Stewox | ofcourse, this is not your PC fault |
| 04:21.29 | Stewox | now let's go test some timings, so i can have some comparrison to get how it lags |
| 04:22.00 | Luisa | ok |
| 04:22.04 | Stewox | open up the editor from start and run a timer to get how long it takes to open |
| 04:22.51 | Stewox | you can find a timer online |
| 04:22.57 | Stewox | stopwatch |
| 04:23.02 | Luisa | about 30 secs |
| 04:23.23 | Stewox | what map does it open, default empty terrain ? |
| 04:23.37 | Luisa | module selection |
| 04:23.56 | Stewox | whats that ? |
| 04:24.24 | Stewox | data , triggers ? |
| 04:25.10 | Luisa | allows you to select which editor to open first. (i.e. terrain, triggers, data, cutscene, etc) |
| 04:26.06 | Stewox | well I don't know what kind of settings you have, in default, it opens up terrain module with an empty map, for comparrison we need this to be the same |
| 04:26.33 | Stewox | but most importantly |
| 04:26.46 | Stewox | it open up empty file, not any existing map ? |
| 04:27.19 | Luisa | about 45 secs to a min with terrain editor and blank file |
| 04:28.00 | Stewox | there appears to be some major thing going on there |
| 04:28.10 | Stewox | because mine opens up in 5 seconds |
| 04:28.28 | Stewox | and it's also on a ssd as we speak |
| 04:28.38 | Stewox | what kind of SSD do you have ? |
| 04:28.58 | Stewox | you can go to start > run > devmgmt.msc and look for discs |
| 04:29.01 | Luisa | intel |
| 04:29.10 | Stewox | which one, need to know specs |
| 04:29.55 | Stewox | it shouldn't take that long even with a HDD |
| 04:30.12 | Stewox | well I lost track of those days, i'll need to ask someone from here who has SC2 on hdd |
| 04:30.13 | Luisa | intel SSD sc2cw 180a3 |
| 04:31.21 | Stewox | hmm it's 520 series |
| 04:31.54 | Luisa | I got it close to Jan |
| 04:31.54 | Stewox | this isn't such a bad one, i was looking around for this one but i have Samsung 840 Pro 120GB |
| 04:32.09 | Stewox | what about the HDD ? |
| 04:32.21 | Stewox | but are you sure you've installed to SSD ? |
| 04:32.35 | Luisa | yes its on the SSD |
| 04:33.11 | Stewox | you right click properties on the editor icon and click open file location to make sure, i can't count how many times i lost my mind for some petty mistakes |
| 04:33.34 | Luisa | yea, its on C:\ |
| 04:33.39 | Luisa | the SSD |
| 04:33.57 | Stewox | well i think at this point |
| 04:34.04 | Stewox | it'll require some scanning to do |
| 04:34.11 | Stewox | with processexplorer |
| 04:34.16 | Stewox | and ssd benchmark |
| 04:34.29 | Stewox | and you know, I know this in and out |
| 04:34.37 | Luisa | ok |
| 04:34.42 | Stewox | but it's a pain in the ass trying to tell this via chat |
| 04:34.50 | Luisa | everything else on my system runs great |
| 04:34.57 | Stewox | i don't know how much your experience is |
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| 04:35.27 | Stewox | have you tried Crysis editor (cryengine = |
| 04:35.38 | Luisa | I don't play Crysis |
| 04:35.55 | Stewox | well, if that editor worked good and not so slow, then it's obviously nothign with the PC |
| 04:36.08 | Stewox | the point of that test was to see what makes SC2 editor lag |
| 04:36.17 | Stewox | it's complex |
| 04:37.18 | Stewox | i't will take me long to explain and then you to do it, i hate to say this, because it's a last resort, but you can choose remote desktop or remote assistance, it will save us both much time |
| 04:38.24 | Stewox | some years ago, i've even uncovered bad memory cleaning in the SP missions, a small memory leak |
| 04:39.04 | Stewox | what windows do you have ? |
| 04:39.39 | Luisa | Windows 8.1 |
| 04:40.02 | Stewox | uh |
| 04:40.09 | Stewox | that could be a bit of a ... headache |
| 04:40.21 | Stewox | maybe sc2 editor is having compatability problems |
| 04:40.49 | Luisa | i had this lag on Windows 7 also |
| 04:41.22 | Stewox | well you didn't had a SSD before right ? |
| 04:41.41 | Luisa | i did |
| 04:41.52 | Luisa | same hardware |
| 04:42.10 | Luisa | both Win7 and Win8 lagged on this editor |
| 04:42.25 | Stewox | weird ... |
| 04:43.04 | Luisa | plus Blizzard stated that all blizzard games and SC2 editor work with Windows 8 |
| 04:43.46 | Stewox | well let's see then |
| 04:44.06 | Stewox | you ever used remote assistance ? |
| 04:44.16 | Luisa | yea, teamviewer |
| 04:44.19 | Stewox | there is an option to enable/disable |
| 04:44.27 | Stewox | i meant windows-integrated one |
| 04:44.32 | Luisa | no |
| 04:44.33 | Stewox | but i can install teamviewer if you want |
| 04:44.40 | Luisa | its not very secure |
| 04:44.43 | Stewox | but i wanted both of us to see the screen if you want |
| 04:44.52 | Stewox | i don't know if teamviewer has that ability |
| 04:45.02 | Luisa | teamviewer is at least secure |
| 04:45.12 | Stewox | secure for what ? |
| 04:45.28 | Stewox | you can have closed ports ? |
| 04:45.48 | Luisa | secure as in someone can't take over my system with it |
| 04:46.08 | Stewox | well remote assistance has the same thing i think |
| 04:46.43 | Stewox | this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ZrOVosaKIr8#t=346 |
| 04:46.51 | Stewox | does teamviewer have this ability ? |
| 04:47.18 | Stewox | if you use remote dekstop, it throws you out |
| 04:47.41 | Stewox | remote assistance apparently doesn't |
| 04:48.02 | Luisa | I'm safe with teamviewer |
| 04:49.21 | Stewox | okay i installed it |
| 04:49.30 | Stewox | haven't used it before so now what |
| 04:52.15 | Stewox | ok im back |
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| 05:20.18 | Lepton | Stewox do you know how to use AIs? |
| 05:21.44 | Daara | ugh |
| 05:21.58 | Daara | why won't my model stay in it's "ready" animation while between attacks |
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| 05:22.31 | Stewox | no lepton |
| 05:22.34 | Stewox | don't know what you mean |
| 05:22.43 | Lepton | dammit |
| 05:22.57 | Stewox | ask someone else, im busy helping |
| 05:22.59 | Lepton | just trying to make a computer player behave like an afk user player |
| 05:25.39 | ElectricPrism | Q: can anyone tell me how to edit a unit's command card via trigger? Is it considered a subset of Unit or Ability under `Catalog Reference` |
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| 05:53.00 | Kueken1 | ElectricPrism: You cannot. |
| 05:53.14 | Kueken1 | certain fields are read-only for catalog triggers |
| 05:53.19 | Kueken1 | including the command card |
| 05:54.31 | Kueken | closest you can get is put all the abilitys you need on the unit and show/hide them according to your needs |
| 06:05.02 | ElectricPrism | Kueken1: thanks for the tip, I guess I can always write my own command card or do that - it sounds like the command card is loaded as Constants instead of Variables, ty |
| 06:08.25 | Daara | quite annoying orgainizing 200 animations to all work seemlessly together |
| 06:08.43 | Daara | naming that is |
| 06:18.33 | Stewox | anyone of you guys maybe recall why SC2 Editor lagged like shit |
| 06:20.36 | ElectricPrism | Stewox: If your PC isn't an i7 that could be on reason |
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| 07:35.53 | Daara | twodie: http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/FemaleHumanVariations_zps84cc0d81.jpg |
| 07:36.17 | Daara | got them working in game now, just working out all of the animations now |
| 07:37.10 | twodie | Cool, so how long do you where making them to work? |
| 07:38.50 | Daara | i'm having trouble understanding that question lol |
| 07:39.10 | twodie | since i had problem asking it :P |
| 07:39.19 | twodie | time that you spent for these models |
| 07:39.27 | Daara | too much time lol |
| 07:39.57 | Daara | the easiest part is editing it in 3DS max |
| 07:40.08 | Daara | getting everything to work properly in game is a pain in the ass |
| 07:40.23 | Daara | have to set up so much stuff in the data editor |
| 07:41.59 | twodie | I hope you will make best use of all of that! |
| 07:42.24 | Daara | i think over time i'll do every playable race model from WoW |
| 07:42.30 | Daara | maybe even a few extras |
| 07:42.40 | Daara | it would allow for so much customization |
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| 07:43.26 | Daara | i just got it set up to show the proper attack animations based on what type of weapon they are using |
| 07:43.54 | Daara | biggest issue was getting it to play the proper Stand Ready animation between attacks |
| 07:44.01 | twodie | well that customization is one thing but the gameplay and general feel in the game to be something too ! |
| 07:44.38 | twodie | feels like its for you a full time job.. |
| 07:44.58 | Daara | i've been taking this pretty slow |
| 07:45.02 | Daara | i take long breaks |
| 07:45.08 | Daara | when i get burned out |
| 07:45.40 | Daara | i think one of the last things i need to figure out is how to get attachments applied via items to stick to the model on death |
| 07:46.07 | Daara | cause weapons, shoulders, and helmets are attached via items |
| 07:46.25 | Daara | and atm they just disappear on death |
| 07:58.39 | twodie | mb death animations dont have same attachment points? |
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| 08:14.36 | Stewox | electricprism |
| 08:14.58 | Stewox | no it makes kind of weird laggies like taking long to open trigger values |
| 08:15.03 | Stewox | not for me, im helping someone else |
| 08:15.15 | Stewox | i know this was going on, but not for me anymore |
| 08:17.24 | Daara | twodie: its because i use behaviors to attach them. Maybe if i can get the behavior to persist through death? |
| 08:17.50 | twodie | yeah that probably it |
| 08:18.04 | Daara | i don't know how to do that though |
| 08:18.08 | Daara | i haven't read any way to do that |
| 08:18.34 | twodie | or make it when unit gets to 1hp make it invualnarable and play the death animantion > destroy it |
| 08:18.39 | Stewox | wha this is real life ? |
| 08:19.13 | Stewox | weird lag on irc |
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| 08:21.05 | Stewox | works ? |
| 08:21.12 | Stewox | testing |
| 08:26.14 | Stewox | ofcourse |
| 08:27.12 | twodie | 123 |
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| 08:46.49 | Stewox | ah wrongchat |
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| 12:54.27 | zenx | I venture to diablofans to discover someone had 10xcharacters having 100 paragorn level |
| 12:54.36 | zenx | what kind of person can play d3 that much :/ |
| 12:55.09 | zenx | on the other hand I played trough mark of the ninja |
| 12:55.12 | zenx | pretty fun game |
| 12:55.20 | zenx | feels clunky at first until you get used to the controls |
| 12:55.25 | zenx | and mechanics |
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| 13:41.20 | Zolden | cmon |
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| 13:56.26 | twodie | Zolden cum on! |
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| 15:51.07 | Ownage | why do I need to save twice when using the UI xml editor? |
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| 16:22.22 | twodie | you need to use compiler in the UI editor |
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| 17:23.33 | evily | hm i have a netural building thats suppose to auto heal anything that comes near it, but for some reason it wont heal the high templar. I checked the auto cast flag and it does not exclude or require anything about the HT. But still wont auto heal. Will auto heal marines fine for example. Anywhere else i need to check than the auto cast flag? |
| 17:25.02 | evily | argh found it. target filters. no worries |
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| 17:27.38 | G0A | Stewox http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/sep/19/anti-fluoride-science-australia |
| 17:27.59 | Stewox | HAHA |
| 17:28.05 | Stewox | what a hitpiece |
| 17:28.12 | Stewox | contacting infowars now |
| 17:29.48 | Stewox | even israel is taking flouride out of the water in 2014 |
| 17:29.52 | Stewox | supreme court ruled |
| 17:30.16 | Stewox | israel isn't one of those countires you would expect that |
| 17:30.30 | Stewox | but you know how they say, even a broken watch is correct 2 times a day |
| 17:32.45 | G0A | I thought nwo nuts think about Israel as the evil |
| 17:33.15 | Stewox | thanks for that |
| 17:33.25 | Stewox | will help expose the propaganda |
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| 17:33.33 | twodie | Anyone for Sunday map night? |
| 17:33.42 | G0A | :) |
| 17:33.51 | Stewox | im making a map enthusiastically |
| 17:33.58 | G0A | Sunday is book night here |
| 17:34.13 | Stewox | since i finally found what im making |
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| 17:35.48 | Zolden | twodie: don't listen to that noob about water pathing, height method only works when we need to slow units in water |
| 17:36.35 | Zolden | also, tell me about your new project you're preparing water and hots cliffs for |
| 17:36.46 | twodie | well seems like im already will be using Cliff level 0 for ships |
| 17:37.31 | Stewox | i started 10 maps, 10 ideas , too big, to weird, too complext to make my self |
| 17:37.42 | Stewox | and now i finally found an idea i can do in a week |
| 17:37.59 | twodie | you know something building, expanding, simulation stuff.. Something like SimCity more action orrentated |
| 17:38.41 | Zolden | ok, but what happen if player click on higher cliff level? What if a ship will have to pass through a group of islands? |
| 17:38.45 | twodie | maybe something like rise of nations too... |
| 17:39.05 | twodie | so they will move on they cliff level 0 |
| 17:39.28 | Zolden | rise of nations have water pathing |
| 17:40.00 | twodie | so ships will be moving on cliff level 1 |
| 17:40.02 | twodie | not 0 |
| 17:40.20 | Zolden | twodie: they will have to be air pathable to walk on cliff level 0, so you will need to make pathes to keep them within cliff level 0 |
| 17:40.35 | twodie | and other "ground units" will move share 2 3 cliff levels |
| 17:40.43 | twodie | and between 1 and 2 there wont be ramps |
| 17:41.34 | Zolden | good, it will work with no ramps and ground pathing for shi[s |
| 17:41.48 | twodie | shits! |
| 17:42.08 | Zolden | but in rise of nations units were able to move over water by simply swapping model to a transport ship |
| 17:42.14 | Zolden | it's the most annoying micro: to put units into a transport |
| 17:42.17 | twodie | now need to make that epic landscape |
| 17:42.31 | Stewox | G0A, have you seen this comment |
| 17:42.33 | twodie | yeah agreed |
| 17:42.33 | Stewox | As a scientist with a PhD in environmental chemistry, I take exception with your conclusion that opposition to mass fluoridation is based on tin foil hat theories. Fluoride is a dangerous and potentially toxic inorganic chemical that has been responsible for poisonings when overused. Adding it to water supplies to substitute for lazy parenting is irresponsible. My children have never had a... |
| 17:42.34 | Stewox | ...cavity because they don't consume sugary drinks and food any time they want to. They have also been taught to brush their teeth twice a day. I have a mouth full of mercury fillings even though I was raised with fluoridated water. Parents whose children have poor dental hygiene should be offered help with diet and dental care, and offered fluoride tablets. The rest of us should not be... |
| 17:42.36 | Stewox | ...forced to consume fluoride to make up for undisciplined parents and children. |
| 17:46.13 | G0A | as I said, I have 6 PhD and I am party of Rothschild so I must know it better... |
| 17:47.26 | G0A | claiming PhD in your first sentence, then arguing with 1 case... he surely educated. |
| 17:49.15 | twodie | more like StD |
| 17:50.09 | G0A | And actually my country has mandatory tooth care for children and no Fluoridation in water. And like half of the children had bad tooth when I was young... |
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| 17:52.41 | twodie | what command to brows |
| 17:53.16 | Zolden | in soviet union where I spent my childhood, there also was mandatory teeth care, but dentists almost never used painkillers, so it was a hell torture |
| 17:53.22 | Zolden | twodie: browse |
| 17:54.08 | Zolden | and I remember black mouth of my friend |
| 17:54.49 | G0A | Zolden My country probably dont have it as mandatory anymore, but when I was child it was something that was left over from the Soviet rule. (the government teeth care was very bad though and its still very bad:) ) |
| 17:56.21 | Zolden | lol, I also put space between a smile and losing bracket |
| 17:56.36 | G0A | I had orthodontist for almost 2 years, my tooths was epicly miss placed:) |
| 17:58.05 | Zolden | is tooth misplacement genetical or behavioral thing? |
| 18:00.43 | twodie | how to open browser with the filtered files type? |
| 18:01.23 | Zolden | type .dds in search |
| 18:01.36 | Zolden | you mean editor's browser, right? |
| 18:01.42 | twodie | yeah |
| 18:01.55 | twodie | using command line to open browser with one type of files |
| 18:03.02 | Zolden | doesn't typing .shit in search do it? |
| 18:03.18 | Stewox | yeah but you don't need flouride for that G0A |
| 18:03.19 | twodie | no |
| 18:03.29 | Zolden | i mean browser's search string |
| 18:04.12 | twodie | well i need to filter those type of files with the specific name in them |
| 18:05.12 | Zolden | I wish to distinguish between textures and icons AND little particle textures for effects ;/ |
| 18:05.35 | twodie | i want to find low model of water |
| 18:05.36 | Zolden | some of they are so nice, but totally lost in shitloads of dds |
| 18:05.47 | Zolden | twodie: Jademus would answer, he knows that shit |
| 18:07.09 | Zolden | looks like soon i will start mapmaking nonstop too |
| 18:07.37 | Zolden | weather is rolling to shit, soon there will be snow |
| 18:07.44 | Zolden | so gay |
| 18:08.15 | Zolden | I remember there was no snow in late december, and it was nice of global warming... |
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| 18:10.21 | twodie | yeah I already got cold from getting in one of those autumn rains |
| 18:10.33 | G0A | Stewox I wasnt saying bad tooth = orthodontist, I meant that half of the young had tooth decay in my country. (including me and I never really liked sugary things) |
| 18:11.06 | Stewox | bad parenting, sugar, fuzzy drinks, |
| 18:11.09 | G0A | Zolden I miss snow |
| 18:11.13 | Stewox | there was no such probkem in my country |
| 18:11.18 | Stewox | no flouride here |
| 18:11.38 | Stewox | there was chlorination |
| 18:11.49 | Zolden | you miss snow ;/ |
| 18:11.50 | G0A | As an ex Soviet country you can imagine how much sugary things we had... |
| 18:11.51 | Stewox | i drink purest water in the country for 10 years now |
| 18:12.08 | Stewox | well i don't know G0A maybe bad health |
| 18:12.28 | Stewox | i know that tooth care was one of staple parenting things |
| 18:12.35 | Zolden | Stewox: is also ex soviet? |
| 18:12.37 | Stewox | there was no day i wouldn't brush my teeth |
| 18:12.41 | Stewox | no |
| 18:12.44 | Stewox | ex yugoslavia |
| 18:12.53 | G0A | Zolden I didnt see 30cm+ snow for more than a week in my country in the last 10 years or so. |
| 18:13.24 | Zolden | Stewox: what else do you do for your health, except food control? |
| 18:13.27 | Kueken | heh |
| 18:13.34 | G0A | Also the river near my house never gets frozen as it used to... |
| 18:13.42 | Kueken | the toothtalk reminds me of my own |
| 18:14.14 | Zolden | G0A: for me it sounds great, last time I saw a meter snow layer was april |
| 18:14.23 | G0A | :) |
| 18:14.42 | Kueken | I had one dentist look at them and he was like "oh my god, you need braces, badly" |
| 18:14.57 | G0A | I miss black ice on the river, it was so cool... |
| 18:15.15 | Zolden | Kueken: we all need, we're nerds |
| 18:15.22 | Kueken | then I got this weird one, which was basically just a wire connecting some teeth |
| 18:15.50 | Kueken | it broke in 2 halfs in my mouth a couple weeks later |
| 18:15.56 | Zolden | yea. iced rivers are cool |
| 18:16.51 | Zolden | Kueken: have you sued your dentist for it? |
| 18:16.58 | Zolden | hitler did |
| 18:17.05 | Kueken | I got the same thing again, again a couple weeks later it started to cut into flesh |
| 18:17.30 | Kueken | and we were on holidays, so my parents broke it out of my mouth with a spoon |
| 18:17.36 | Zolden | maybe your dentist was a noob? |
| 18:17.54 | twodie | okay found the Water on lowest settings. Its images of 44 |
| 18:18.03 | Kueken | after that, we changed dentists, and the next guy was like "yeah... we will do nothing, it will be fine" |
| 18:18.07 | Zolden | spoons are well known mouth's friends |
| 18:18.34 | Kueken | I had huge holes between my teeth back then, I used to put legos between them :D |
| 18:18.38 | Zolden | lol |
| 18:19.22 | Kueken | but once my wisdom teeth rised, they pushed the other ones into place, and they never needed to be removed |
| 18:19.23 | Zolden | sounds super nerd |
| 18:20.03 | Kueken | and my dentist said I was lucky my mouth had perfect space for them |
| 18:20.10 | Zolden | nature is wise |
| 18:20.37 | Kueken | now I got perfect teeth, without needing braces ever again :p |
| 18:20.51 | Kueken | *perfect in terms of position |
| 18:21.01 | Kueken | color... not so much |
| 18:21.17 | Zolden | this makes you less nerdy |
| 18:21.30 | Stewox | G0A |
| 18:21.38 | Stewox | do you know who bilderberg is ? |
| 18:21.43 | Stewox | or what.. |
| 18:21.44 | Kueken | oh, trust me, the rest of my body more than makes up for it in nerdyness :D |
| 18:22.00 | Zolden | a jew? |
| 18:22.19 | Stewox | what i do for food cntrl zolden |
| 18:22.21 | Stewox | hmm |
| 18:22.22 | Stewox | well |
| 18:22.39 | Zolden | Kueken: who would doubt it being aware of your superiorit in data |
| 18:22.54 | Stewox | i stay away from GMO, vaccinations, aspartame (coca cola, pepsi) |
| 18:23.14 | Stewox | and i ordered Beyond Tangy Tangerine 2.0 |
| 18:23.32 | Stewox | if i had more money i would also buy Brown Seaweed Extract from Modifilan |
| 18:24.34 | Stewox | the point of healthy teeth is |
| 18:24.37 | Stewox | brushing |
| 18:24.44 | Stewox | physical contact |
| 18:25.09 | Stewox | that what makes the teeh skin more stringer |
| 18:25.38 | Stewox | i used non-flouride toothpaste a lot |
| 18:26.02 | Stewox | but i started mixing homemade stuff |
| 18:27.18 | Stewox | baking soda, coconut oil, salt |
| 18:27.33 | Fate_ | how do i made a beam not move with the unit that launched it? |
| 18:32.27 | evily | I have a trigger that adds +1 to kills and displays it on the leaderboard everytime someone kills a unit. if i update the leaderboard in that trigger it works fine. but when i create a seperate trigger, on a timer, to update the leaderboard, when the elapsed time elapses, the leaderboard does not get updated although units have been killed in the meantime..... Do anyone know why? |
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| 18:35.55 | twodie | any tips how to make bunch of pics like a gif but in selection of images? |
| 18:36.01 | DemoniacMilk | hello, anyone available to test my map "capture and hold beta" on NA/EU ? |
| 18:36.05 | evily | the leaderboard is updated in real time --> http://snag.gy/NHCTI.jpg the leaderboard does not get updated at all, why? ---> http://snag.gy/md3jE.jpg |
| 18:36.12 | twodie | im |
| 18:36.24 | Fate_ | LOL Demoniac |
| 18:36.31 | DemoniacMilk | hey fate :DS |
| 18:36.41 | DemoniacMilk | nice to see you |
| 18:36.50 | Fate_ | waht was youe map the risk one? |
| 18:36.58 | Fate_ | yeah nice to see you too |
| 18:37.21 | DemoniacMilk | er risk one? i dont think so |
| 18:37.26 | G0A | Stewox I know that Bliderberg is meeting of retards and these days even more retarded people meet outside of these meetings. |
| 18:37.29 | DemoniacMilk | twodie you prefer NA or EU? |
| 18:37.39 | Fate_ | i would also join |
| 18:37.45 | DemoniacMilk | cool nice =) |
| 18:37.52 | twodie | any |
| 18:37.54 | G0A | Stewox there are far better financial groupings |
| 18:38.05 | DemoniacMilk | ok i have a lobby opened on EU |
| 18:38.14 | twodie | "any tips how to make bunch of pics like a gif but in selection of images?" |
| 18:39.19 | Kueken | twodie: sounds like a new thread from counterclockwise boolean guy |
| 18:39.50 | DemoniacMilk | "in selection of images" ... what does that mean? |
| 18:39.57 | Kueken | (20:27:33) Fate_: how do i made a beam not move with the unit that launched it? |
| 18:40.16 | Kueken | beam handled by itself or action actor? |
| 18:40.20 | Fate_ | yep |
| 18:40.29 | Fate_ | i think i allready did it |
| 18:40.32 | Kueken | ok |
| 18:40.47 | twodie | like couple of seconds of clip getting into separate images |
| 18:41.08 | DemoniacMilk | and what do you need that for in sc2? |
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| 18:41.41 | Daara | i love whoever decided to switch the number captchas |
| 18:41.42 | twodie | to make water images |
| 18:41.57 | DemoniacMilk | ou, yeah |
| 18:41.59 | twodie | replace the current low resolution water images |
| 18:42.34 | DemoniacMilk | so twodie are you going to join fate and me? |
| 18:43.36 | Stewox | ok |
| 18:43.41 | Stewox | G0A |
| 18:43.52 | Stewox | i think this will be funny if you watch |
| 18:44.03 | Stewox | i put a lot of time into making it so respect please |
| 18:44.10 | Stewox | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fp7sW9iwcE |
| 18:46.23 | Kueken | does look neither mapping-related, nor interesting, sorry |
| 18:46.32 | Kueken | but I am sure its very well made |
| 18:46.37 | G0A | :) |
| 18:46.59 | G0A | Crazy people are funny but boring after 1-2min |
| 18:50.09 | Stewox | you need to watch all |
| 18:50.12 | Stewox | mostl |
| 18:50.24 | Stewox | it takes 10 minutes for the fun part to start |
| 18:52.25 | Fate_ | hm |
| 18:52.37 | Fate_ | a bit confusing |
| 18:55.37 | Stewox | G0A trust me it'll be funny even if you hate the guy, isn't it cool to be there sorrounded by security shouting at the criminals like a boss :p |
| 18:55.43 | Stewox | and the funniest parts are voice immitation and other jokes |
| 19:00.12 | DemoniacMilk | fate and twodie, thanks for playing |
| 19:00.26 | twodie | !!! |
| 19:00.57 | DemoniacMilk | ? |
| 19:01.14 | Fate_ | np |
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| 19:05.05 | Triceron | Boop |
| 19:07.31 | Kueken | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.38 | Kueken | he shall burn in hell |
| 19:08.26 | Stewox | huhu |
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| 19:09.09 | twodie | tit |
| 19:32.05 | Stewox | kueken |
| 19:32.14 | Stewox | is it possible to make GAP generator in SC2 |
| 19:32.16 | Stewox | via triggers |
| 19:32.26 | Stewox | just to shroud an area permanantly |
| 19:32.30 | Stewox | so it cannot be explored |
| 19:32.41 | Stewox | with the real black shorud |
| 19:32.41 | Stewox | not just gog |
| 19:32.41 | Stewox | fog |
| 19:33.16 | Kueken | I don't know, I am pretty sure you can restore black mask in an area, you could try to apply that periodically |
| 19:33.44 | Kueken | if that works for your desired application |
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| 19:34.42 | Stewox | what is the mask called in triggers |
| 19:34.45 | Stewox | touble finding it |
| 19:35.10 | Kueken | afaik, it is referenced as "black mask" |
| 19:35.19 | Kueken | but I might be wrong, checking.. |
| 19:35.22 | Stewox | oh it's in visibility |
| 19:35.25 | Stewox | unexplore area |
| 19:35.34 | Kueken | sounds promising |
| 19:36.25 | twodie | how to update minimap in Editor? Its all black..... |
| 19:41.09 | Stewox | one important question kueken |
| 19:41.20 | Stewox | can i overlap regions but keep them separate ? |
| 19:41.52 | Kueken | didn't work much with regions, so not sure |
| 19:41.55 | Kueken | I assume you can |
| 19:56.11 | Stewox | ok |
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| 20:18.00 | Stewox | oh |
| 20:18.04 | Stewox | kueken |
| 20:18.17 | Stewox | do negative regions affect outside of region |
| 20:18.20 | Stewox | damn |
| 20:18.29 | Stewox | this is going to be pain in the ass |
| 20:18.35 | Kueken | no idea |
| 20:18.55 | Stewox | ah oka |
| 20:19.21 | Stewox | why is there no easier way to place regions |
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| 20:45.06 | twodie | Sup Zolden? |
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| 20:53.13 | G0A | rofl, take control of replay uses banks? |
| 20:58.00 | twodie | nice tits |
| 20:59.04 | Obscene | :/ |
| 21:03.15 | evily | do anyone happen to know what the dimensions are suppose to be for the preview screenshots you upload with your map? |
| 21:05.17 | Obscene | 600 x 800 I believe |
| 21:05.27 | Obscene | 1 sec |
| 21:06.38 | Obscene | 800 x 600 |
| 21:06.40 | Obscene | I just checked |
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| 21:09.23 | evily | cool:_) thanks |
| 21:09.36 | Zolden | twodie: up is that i'm going to start a cool book soon |
| 21:10.12 | twodie | to write? cool |
| 21:10.14 | Zolden | Obscene: checked? like in chess? |
| 21:10.34 | Zolden | not yet to write, but definitely to read |
| 21:10.40 | Obscene | Checked, as in I checked on it to find the correct answer. |
| 21:10.43 | Zolden | philip dick's book |
| 21:10.48 | Obscene | your a dick... |
| 21:10.50 | Zolden | one of the best |
| 21:10.59 | Obscene | lol |
| 21:11.13 | Obscene | Well I completely beat GTA V, and all of the main side missions |
| 21:11.14 | Obscene | lawl |
| 21:11.38 | twodie | your dick can do more!! call us now! |
| 21:12.19 | Zolden | Obscene: what's funnier to play, hots or gta v? |
| 21:12.32 | twodie | or wol? |
| 21:12.42 | Obscene | GTA V by a long shot |
| 21:12.53 | Obscene | HoTS was good, but not great |
| 21:13.05 | Obscene | GTA V is great, its pretty much perfect in every way |
| 21:13.20 | Obscene | GTA V = but not = The last of us :P |
| 21:13.28 | Obscene | I would rank both of them on the greatest games of all time list |
| 21:14.20 | Zolden | i liked gta 1 or 2, when it was 2d |
| 21:14.26 | Triceron | perfect except it's another open world game |
| 21:17.14 | Zolden | Triceron: hey, how are models doing? |
| 21:18.08 | Zolden | or I should have put "the" before "models" to make it sound like i'm asking about wc models |
| 21:18.11 | Zolden | right, Obscene? |
| 21:18.47 | Stewox | hello |
| 21:18.55 | Stewox | my left panel disappeare |
| 21:20.13 | Triceron | Working on siege engines right now |
| 21:20.18 | Stewox | d |
| 21:20.19 | Triceron | getting the ballista and catapult rigged up |
| 21:20.29 | Triceron | basic anims and effects |
| 21:21.04 | Stewox | tuning into the GCN network ... ahh for a nice bedtime sleep http://bit.ly/19uVFq9 |
| 21:21.10 | Stewox | anyways |
| 21:21.14 | Stewox | i hit some keys |
| 21:21.20 | Stewox | and my LEFT panel disappeared in editor |
| 21:21.23 | Obscene | Whats wrong with open world games? |
| 21:21.28 | Stewox | anyone, seconds before i got to sleep ? |
| 21:21.33 | Obscene | GTA is what defines open world games |
| 21:21.50 | Obscene | I would rather have open world then on the rails shooter :P ANY DAY |
| 21:22.04 | Obscene | or a completely linear platformer |
| 21:22.05 | Obscene | lawl |
| 21:22.20 | Obscene | The last of us is the only non open world gmae I Have enjoyed in a very long itme |
| 21:23.51 | Zolden | Triceron: cool! |
| 21:24.15 | Triceron | i got flaming rocks on my catapult, got a basic attack anim working now :D |
| 21:25.29 | Zolden | can't wait to see it |
| 21:27.52 | Stewox | best standy up comedian in washington |
| 21:27.54 | Zolden | will you make specular to make metallic part shine? |
| 21:27.54 | Stewox | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZSMdlINVAk |
| 21:28.11 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/Catapult_02_zps85e63824.gif |
| 21:35.17 | twodie | TITS! |
| 21:35.18 | twodie | bb |
| 21:37.32 | Zolden | nice |
| 21:58.58 | G0A | Stewox Obama partially is right, since Fed will buy most of the new bonds with newly printed dollars, so the government debt wont increase, only the private. |
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| 22:01.58 | ElectricPrism | Is there a way I can change the debug default font size? |
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| 22:25.16 | Triceron | Obama's always right. Presidents are never wrong |
| 22:43.52 | Daara | lol |
| 22:44.06 | Daara | fixing the gun attack animations -_- |
| 22:44.17 | Daara | stupid attachment point points them up in the air during the attack animation |
| 22:47.51 | Daara | can't get site operations to rotate it correctly either |
| 22:49.17 | Daara | plus messing with site operations will cause it to rotate and point at the ground when being carried --- |
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| 23:33.56 | ElectricPrism | can i create an action/function that not require that it "wait until finished", my action includes a wait() command but because the function is called 5 times the wait time delays the rest of the script |
| 23:34.17 | ElectricPrism | or is there an alternative to wait suchas QueAction(Delay) |
| 23:35.52 | ElectricPrism | I'm trying to create text tags that auto destroy after 10 seconds |
| 23:51.17 | Kueken1 | ElectricPrism: If you are making a custom action you can check the option to run in a separate thread |
| 23:52.29 | ElectricPrism | Kueken1: Thanks a bunch :) |
