| 00:00.03 | MoonEater | [16:57] <MoonEater> http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/56706-public-apology/?page=2#p37 |
| 00:00.34 | Psywisp | oh ok |
| 00:00.56 | Sixen | so obvious |
| 00:01.11 | MoonEater | ?? |
| 00:01.11 | MoonEater | HOLA SIXEN |
| 00:01.15 | DeadZergling | it really is |
| 00:01.16 | Psywisp | wow |
| 00:01.17 | MoonEater | we missed u |
| 00:01.21 | DeadZergling | but I let him attempt his charades |
| 00:01.26 | Psywisp | he insulted the antarcticans |
| 00:01.41 | MoonEater | let me who is notmoderator cast no stones |
| 00:02.22 | DeadZergling | you really suck at not acting like TW, TW :P |
| 00:02.40 | Psywisp | what |
| 00:02.41 | MoonEater | Drama!!!! trolololo |
| 00:02.44 | Psywisp | um |
| 00:03.01 | Psywisp | I seriously don't know who that is |
| 00:03.24 | ObsceneCereal | Hes a guy you go to when you need data help :), or intermediate trigger help |
| 00:03.35 | MoonEater | @Sixen why u always poping in causing drama and jumping out? |
| 00:03.37 | ObsceneCereal | or beginner photoshop/terrain help |
| 00:03.46 | ObsceneCereal | or VERY VERY minor UI help lol |
| 00:03.52 | MoonEater | lolz |
| 00:03.57 | MoonEater | naw he knows stuff |
| 00:04.16 | MoonEater | dont trolled a man who is dead |
| 00:04.58 | Psywisp | What should I do |
| 00:05.20 | Psywisp | D: |
| 00:06.10 | ObsceneCereal | you should run Psywisp, Run far far way where they cant find you |
| 00:06.17 | DeadZergling | can't handle much more poor acting |
| 00:06.22 | DeadZergling | I'm off to get a coffee |
| 00:06.26 | ObsceneCereal | lol |
| 00:06.29 | Psywisp | Okay well |
| 00:06.31 | Psywisp | I bet |
| 00:06.37 | Psywisp | you are all trolling me |
| 00:07.02 | ObsceneCereal | hey psywisp, whats your forum name? |
| 00:07.07 | DeadZergling | And I bet if you were really a different guy, you wouldn't even care about getting banned or not :P |
| 00:07.08 | MoonEater | wait, come on im not trolling u |
| 00:07.16 | MoonEater | dont lump me in with them |
| 00:07.18 | Psywisp | Paper |
| 00:07.19 | DeadZergling | if i was new to a site and they wanted to do that |
| 00:07.20 | Psywisp | remote |
| 00:07.25 | DeadZergling | I wouldn't give half a shit |
| 00:07.28 | DeadZergling | more poor acting :P |
| 00:07.29 | ObsceneCereal | sorry, very light trolling is in my nature :P. |
| 00:07.30 | Psywisp | but |
| 00:07.39 | Psywisp | I want to make maps |
| 00:07.43 | Psywisp | and stuff |
| 00:08.07 | DeadZergling | then you got nothing to worry about Psy ;P |
| 00:08.19 | Psywisp | So |
| 00:08.27 | ObsceneCereal | Psy this is how. |
| 00:08.28 | Psywisp | you WERE trolling me? |
| 00:08.37 | Psywisp | :( |
| 00:08.39 | DeadZergling | nope, I'm still suspicious |
| 00:08.44 | Psywisp | Okay |
| 00:08.53 | ObsceneCereal | First you go get the movie "They Live" watch that 3 times back to back, then just get on that editor and you will understand |
| 00:09.05 | Psywisp | Well how can I prove that I am a different person? |
| 00:09.12 | ObsceneCereal | nudes? |
| 00:09.15 | ObsceneCereal | lawl jk |
| 00:09.17 | Psywisp | I will search that movie |
| 00:09.23 | Psywisp | wow D: |
| 00:09.25 | ObsceneCereal | that was a joke psy :P |
| 00:09.46 | Psywisp | I noticed :P |
| 00:09.56 | ObsceneCereal | Honestly just come up with someting you want to make, flesh it on on a txt document, make ms_pant blueprints for your terrain, and then get started |
| 00:10.11 | MoonEater | ObsceneCereal, why you got to make this gay and awkward |
| 00:10.21 | Psywisp | Yeah that's not difficult |
| 00:10.28 | Psywisp | it's the triggers x_x |
| 00:10.36 | ObsceneCereal | Well mooneater, if the guy is actually looking to map, then Why not help him :) |
| 00:10.56 | MoonEater | [17:09] <ObsceneCereal> nudes? [17:09] <ObsceneCereal> lawl jk |
| 00:11.03 | MoonEater | helphim or help u? |
| 00:11.08 | Psywisp | lol |
| 00:11.29 | ObsceneCereal | lawl |
| 00:12.30 | MoonEater | Lol my gf is mad at me so i go do maping |
| 00:12.35 | MoonEater | and she is mad at me for mapping |
| 00:12.46 | Psywisp | gg |
| 00:12.50 | MoonEater | i know right |
| 00:13.08 | MoonEater | and i tell her ill go out to the mall n stuff but not while ur acting mad all day long |
| 00:13.15 | MoonEater | she just gets more mad |
| 00:13.18 | MoonEater | so i map more |
| 00:13.19 | Psywisp | lol |
| 00:13.27 | ObsceneCereal | :/ |
| 00:13.30 | Psywisp | and she get's more maf? |
| 00:13.34 | Psywisp | mad* |
| 00:13.54 | Psywisp | brb I'm going to go get some food |
| 00:14.38 | ObsceneCereal | of course shes more mad :P, hahah |
| 00:14.52 | ObsceneCereal | Your ignoring her, so shes only going to get angrier |
| 00:15.19 | ObsceneCereal | ~seen daara |
| 00:15.21 | purl | daara <62a12b72@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.161.43.114> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 108d 1h 21m 38s ago, saying: 'totally confused...'. |
| 00:15.21 | MoonEater | but i told her i wouldnt ignore her if she would just cheer up |
| 00:16.01 | ObsceneCereal | :( |
| 00:16.42 | MoonEater | well |
| 00:16.52 | MoonEater | i never get it why Sixen only says 1 word |
| 00:17.00 | MoonEater | in irc per 6 hours |
| 00:17.14 | ObsceneCereal | lawl |
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| 00:19.02 | DeadZergling | sixen is here more often than he lets on |
| 00:19.19 | DeadZergling | he will usually respond if you talk about him directly, or something he is interested in |
| 00:20.13 | ArcanePariah | Meanwhile... as I read all that I have missed... |
| 00:20.29 | DeadZergling | dogmai is a lot like that too |
| 00:20.33 | DeadZergling | very quiet most the time |
| 00:20.37 | ArcanePariah | Did I miss anything crazy, other then Sixen randomly saying something? |
| 00:20.40 | DeadZergling | but...... |
| 00:21.22 | DeadZergling | that will get him |
| 00:21.38 | MoonEater | TAINTEDWISP TAINTEDWISP |
| 00:21.53 | MoonEater | I SUMMON THEEE WITH VOODOO WORDS SIXEN!!! |
| 00:21.54 | MoonEater | TAINTEDWISP TAINTEDWISP |
| 00:23.16 | DeadZergling | yall do realize of course, this does not help TW's case |
| 00:23.31 | DeadZergling | neither his actions in here or yours, you are just proving how a bad apple makes the rest go rotten |
| 00:23.53 | ObsceneCereal | :/ |
| 00:24.27 | DeadZergling | is good that TW is learning the actions have consequences though |
| 00:24.33 | DeadZergling | *that actions |
| 00:26.48 | MoonEater | i dont care what happens to tainted wisp |
| 00:27.07 | MoonEater | i dont think what im doing qualifies adme rotting |
| 00:27.13 | MoonEater | im just enjoying myself on irc |
| 00:40.28 | DeadZergling | sheesh, Egyptian military needs a bigger budget, here is a picture of a soldier and his weapon: http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax/files/94/94180861-c2a7-4692-aea8-b4b92096513b.jpg |
| 00:40.32 | DeadZergling | a freaking stick |
| 00:42.15 | ArcanePariah | Yeah well, Egypt has always relied on Soviet or US stuff, afaik they have virtuall nothing of their own |
| 00:42.43 | ArcanePariah | Plus the Soviets were infamous for always handing out AK's as their idea of foreign aid |
| 00:43.26 | DeadZergling | I guess, I'm just sort of, nice uniform there sir |
| 00:43.32 | DeadZergling | where is a weapon to match |
| 00:43.52 | MoonEater | well |
| 00:43.53 | MoonEater | guys |
| 00:43.55 | MoonEater | i lost |
| 00:43.58 | DeadZergling | is like a battlecruiser employing 1 gauss rifle |
| 00:43.58 | Psywisp | hi |
| 00:43.58 | MoonEater | im going to the mall |
| 00:44.00 | MoonEater | save me |
| 00:44.02 | Psywisp | I'm back |
| 00:44.03 | DeadZergling | as its only weapon |
| 00:44.04 | Psywisp | uh |
| 00:44.08 | ArcanePariah | Depends what that stick is made out of, bamboo is fairly dangerous |
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| 00:44.15 | DeadZergling | have fun w/ the girlfriend moon |
| 00:44.17 | Psywisp | shoot her with a gauss rifle |
| 00:44.23 | Psywisp | acutally don't |
| 00:44.34 | Psywisp | Sounds like a bad idea |
| 00:44.48 | ArcanePariah | Mind you, AK's are probably the most reliable weapon on earth |
| 00:44.58 | ArcanePariah | Hence their popularity |
| 00:45.15 | ArcanePariah | But yeah, the guy with a stick... ehh |
| 00:45.29 | Psywisp | bamboo is almost like a knife |
| 00:45.47 | ArcanePariah | Yes, sharpened bamboo may as well be a sword |
| 00:46.05 | DeadZergling | at least graduate to the iron age |
| 00:46.06 | DeadZergling | dayum |
| 00:46.12 | Psywisp | xD |
| 00:46.31 | Psywisp | Let's supply bamboo to the army |
| 00:46.32 | ArcanePariah | Well, as quoted in DoW II once, guns run out of ammo, saws/sword/knives don't |
| 00:46.49 | Psywisp | true |
| 00:46.50 | Psywisp | also |
| 00:47.03 | Psywisp | Do people ever stab anyone with arrows? |
| 00:47.32 | Psywisp | It seems to me that it could be just as useful as actually shooting them |
| 00:47.44 | ArcanePariah | If forced into close combat, an archer could, but more often then not, not effective against sword or pike wielding soldier or plated knights |
| 00:48.25 | Psywisp | I guess... |
| 00:48.31 | ArcanePariah | Also, depends on the arrow, one could employ poisoned ones, where even a glancing blow was lethal, but dangerous to the archer as well |
| 00:48.42 | DeadZergling | arrows can be used to stab sure |
| 00:48.47 | DeadZergling | it just isn't practical |
| 00:48.51 | ArcanePariah | ^ |
| 00:49.09 | ArcanePariah | An arrow used that way is basically a very flimisy and unwieldy knife |
| 00:49.21 | DeadZergling | they are much more effective when shot off a bow |
| 00:49.30 | Psywisp | well would it be better to supply them with knives, or just give the knives to others? |
| 00:49.33 | ArcanePariah | Which can ONLY be used to stab, no slicing or other manuevurs |
| 00:49.38 | Psywisp | Well nvm that's a bad question |
| 00:49.46 | DeadZergling | hand held arrow versus any blunt/slashing object will lose |
| 00:49.47 | Psywisp | it would depend on how many knives they had |
| 00:50.04 | DeadZergling | all you have to do is make a solid hit on the arrow and snap it |
| 00:50.34 | ArcanePariah | Mind you, arrows did lead to the end of knights, since long bows packed such a punch that even platemail was mostly ineffective |
| 00:50.51 | DeadZergling | rapier is much better than an arrow if you just want stabbing ability |
| 00:50.57 | DeadZergling | much sturdier than arrows |
| 00:50.57 | ArcanePariah | The fate of both was sealed by cannons |
| 00:51.12 | ArcanePariah | Along with a few other things |
| 00:51.16 | ArcanePariah | like castles |
| 00:51.17 | DeadZergling | rambo + explosive arrows disagrees with you sir! |
| 00:51.20 | Psywisp | Lol this turned into a great conversation about weapons |
| 00:51.42 | DeadZergling | and yea, I can believe an arrow going right through plate |
| 00:51.44 | ArcanePariah | lol, next your going to tell me Hawk from Avengers disagrees with me as well |
| 00:51.57 | DeadZergling | I've shot an arrow with no freaking head |
| 00:52.08 | DeadZergling | went right through some extremely solid objects |
| 00:52.12 | DeadZergling | it was a weak bow too |
| 00:52.35 | ArcanePariah | Correct, the long bow, with its great pull, meant the damage an arrow could do, combined with gravity, was just too extreme for any armor |
| 00:52.38 | DeadZergling | so a stronger bow behind an arrow with a good head |
| 00:53.08 | DeadZergling | I have an uncle and cousins who are, less than legal we shall say |
| 00:53.17 | DeadZergling | invited me to the backyard to shoot arrows at the fence |
| 00:53.19 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 00:53.34 | ArcanePariah | Modern bows are barely bows anymore, more like mechanized bow guns |
| 00:53.40 | DeadZergling | went right through the wood like nothing |
| 00:53.52 | DeadZergling | naw this wasn't a compound or anything, just a bow |
| 00:54.05 | DeadZergling | meaning it was hard as hell to pull |
| 00:54.14 | ArcanePariah | lol, but still packed a punch |
| 00:55.03 | DeadZergling | I'm not all that convinced compound bows are stronger than regulars |
| 00:55.15 | DeadZergling | they just make pulling a joke |
| 00:57.03 | DeadZergling | anyways, fun to talk about the progression of weapons, till you hit nuclear |
| 00:57.13 | ArcanePariah | True, there are basic physics principles that govern the power of a bow, and yes compounds can not violate those, but compounds, with the pulleys/etc. makeing pulling a joke, means you can pull far more and thus gain power beyond what a normal bow could do, a normal bow would break under the tension |
| 00:57.21 | DeadZergling | then you get a fun reminder that humanity is gonna wipe out the entire earth's population before long |
| 00:57.34 | Psywisp | Well |
| 00:57.39 | Psywisp | That makes me happy |
| 00:58.09 | ArcanePariah | Nuclear weapons are interesting in that because they are effectively impossible to defend against, they are not considered a military weapon, more like a strategic politiacal one |
| 00:58.47 | Psywisp | If we have a future, what do you think would replace nuclear weapons? |
| 00:58.53 | ArcanePariah | Also they are useless in a tactical sense because the fallout means anywhere you strike, you yourself can never use against yoru enemy by seizing that terriortory |
| 00:59.02 | ArcanePariah | That's easy |
| 00:59.06 | ArcanePariah | 1) Nanological weapons |
| 00:59.23 | ArcanePariah | Nanites are borderline impossible to defend agaisnt as well, and more controllable |
| 00:59.40 | ArcanePariah | 2) Genetic weapons |
| 00:59.47 | DeadZergling | impossible to defend against but more controllable? |
| 00:59.51 | DeadZergling | those 2 seem to contradict |
| 01:00.00 | Psywisp | kinda |
| 01:00.18 | Psywisp | Well, not really... |
| 01:00.30 | ArcanePariah | I can program a nanite to disassmble, say, anything with carbon atoms in it, and also use a GPS link, and limimt their range and also can issue a remote shutdown |
| 01:00.30 | DeadZergling | genetic weapons been in place a long time, Planned Parenthood is a well known one in US |
| 01:00.37 | ArcanePariah | loool |
| 01:00.52 | Psywisp | loool |
| 01:00.54 | ArcanePariah | Nanological = robotic at nano level |
| 01:00.55 | Psywisp | gg world |
| 01:01.21 | ArcanePariah | Only way to counter such a threat would be to EMP yourself, problem with that is, requires tons of power or using a nuke... |
| 01:01.35 | DeadZergling | what will likely happen is, one country will figure out how to shutdown/control everyone's nuke systems at once |
| 01:01.40 | DeadZergling | get rid of every country but theirs |
| 01:01.46 | Psywisp | then the world will be united |
| 01:01.54 | DeadZergling | until some guy says F it all and nukes their own country too |
| 01:02.08 | Psywisp | and there would be a lot of rebels |
| 01:02.11 | ArcanePariah | Not possible, both the US and Russia have gone to the extent with our submarine forces to make that unviable |
| 01:02.41 | ArcanePariah | To be able to subvery every nuclear launching submarine would mean you already ahve control of the navy |
| 01:02.53 | ArcanePariah | at which point, you probably already control the country |
| 01:02.56 | DeadZergling | yea, that won't happen for a long time |
| 01:03.00 | Psywisp | Will then world end in fire or ice? |
| 01:03.08 | DeadZergling | fire, then ice |
| 01:03.14 | ArcanePariah | That's easy, fire, supernova :D |
| 01:03.25 | ArcanePariah | See you about a few billion years :P |
| 01:03.30 | Psywisp | Well you never know! xD |
| 01:03.33 | Psywisp | Yup |
| 01:03.38 | Psywisp | by then we can confirm |
| 01:03.59 | Psywisp | And laugh at the people who were wrong |
| 01:04.00 | DeadZergling | just like the firsthand accounts evolutionists have of it all happening |
| 01:04.02 | Psywisp | and then die |
| 01:04.27 | DeadZergling | cause you just know they were able to observe 60 some million years or whatever # it is up to to make probability go in their favor, lol |
| 01:05.49 | Psywisp | What do you think will destroy humanity? |
| 01:05.58 | DeadZergling | H-bombs |
| 01:06.00 | DeadZergling | without a doubt |
| 01:06.26 | Psywisp | but what if |
| 01:06.32 | Psywisp | the world is friendly to each other D: |
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| 01:06.44 | DeadZergling | only reason it hasn't begun yet, is no one in power has had a situation where bombing the others benefited them and didn't result in counternukes |
| 01:06.56 | DeadZergling | just have to wait for this situation to occur, and it will happen |
| 01:06.58 | MoonEater_Mobile | grumbles |
| 01:07.10 | DeadZergling | as long as 2 people exist on this planet |
| 01:07.12 | DeadZergling | they will argue |
| 01:07.13 | ArcanePariah | Simple answer, Nature will, whether man is part of it or not is not very relevant |
| 01:07.23 | Psywisp | :( |
| 01:07.28 | DeadZergling | i don't think nature will exist when we done nuking ourselves, lol |
| 01:07.32 | Psywisp | this is why we can't have nice things |
| 01:07.48 | ArcanePariah | Nature on this planet may not, but nature as in the galaxy will get along just fine |
| 01:07.58 | Psywisp | Yeah, obviously |
| 01:08.09 | DeadZergling | sure, if you go w/ the definition of biological chemistry |
| 01:08.09 | Psywisp | We'll never be able to affect our galaxy |
| 01:08.19 | DeadZergling | as just meaning carbon is somehow in it :P |
| 01:08.27 | ArcanePariah | So when nature decides to play baseball with the galaxy and throw an asteroid at us, welp.... |
| 01:08.54 | ArcanePariah | Unless ofc we got Bruce Willis and co to go play heros :p |
| 01:09.15 | DeadZergling | that'd be a very unfunny version of galaxyquest |
| 01:09.40 | ArcanePariah | Was more thinking Armageddon |
| 01:09.54 | DeadZergling | you know the movie, galaxyquest, right? |
| 01:10.01 | ArcanePariah | Vaguely |
| 01:10.08 | Psywisp | Lol I watched Armageddon like 3 days ago... |
| 01:10.24 | DeadZergling | is actors in a pseudo star trek being put in a real spaceship |
| 01:10.31 | DeadZergling | and being expected to be real space explorers |
| 01:10.40 | DeadZergling | they somehow win in their movie |
| 01:10.53 | DeadZergling | bruce willis an co. would fail, and fail badly |
| 01:11.05 | Psywisp | It's okay |
| 01:11.09 | Psywisp | I am programming a shield |
| 01:11.17 | Psywisp | that will deflect any asteroids |
| 01:11.18 | DeadZergling | shuttle probably blow up on launch |
| 01:11.32 | Psywisp | I will save humanity |
| 01:11.40 | Psywisp | from the non-existant asteroid |
| 01:11.54 | MoonEater_Mobile | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:11.59 | Psywisp | then they are going to kill each other |
| 01:12.16 | Psywisp | MoonEater why are you mobile |
| 01:12.30 | Psywisp | D: |
| 01:13.03 | DeadZergling | sure they are moon |
| 01:13.45 | ArcanePariah | Actually no |
| 01:13.45 | DeadZergling | you are just in despair as you are at the mall |
| 01:13.54 | Psywisp | lol |
| 01:13.59 | ArcanePariah | 2 people is not enough for a population at all |
| 01:13.59 | Psywisp | It's okay |
| 01:14.10 | Psywisp | Nope |
| 01:14.29 | DeadZergling | congratulations on arguing that sex doesn't work :P |
| 01:15.01 | ArcanePariah | Sex will work, biological diversity won't and one of the 2 will have a crippling genetic problem that will screw everyone long term |
| 01:15.08 | Psywisp | Yeah |
| 01:15.25 | DeadZergling | Dunno if you have noticed or not |
| 01:15.26 | Psywisp | They wouldn't really be human |
| 01:15.30 | ArcanePariah | Bonus points if they both have someinthing recessive that screws people up :D |
| 01:15.48 | Psywisp | They both probably have AIDS |
| 01:15.49 | DeadZergling | But humans have an amazing way of putting themselves in bubbles in which they can survive |
| 01:16.01 | Psywisp | Then we'd start being immune to AIDS |
| 01:16.04 | Psywisp | or something |
| 01:16.39 | Psywisp | Being immune to AIDS would be really helpful |
| 01:16.44 | ArcanePariah | Humans are amazing at grouping up and using our brains to survive, otherwise we are pretty pathetic in the animal kingdom |
| 01:16.57 | Psywisp | Yeah |
| 01:17.12 | Psywisp | If we had a human fight another animal to the death |
| 01:17.24 | ArcanePariah | animal wins virtuall every time |
| 01:17.28 | Psywisp | yup |
| 01:17.54 | DeadZergling | you must be talking unarmed combat |
| 01:18.08 | Psywisp | Yeah, that's what I meant |
| 01:18.15 | DeadZergling | that is unrealistic however |
| 01:18.17 | Psywisp | If they both had swords |
| 01:18.22 | Psywisp | Then it would be a different story |
| 01:18.26 | DeadZergling | a human will always have tools |
| 01:18.34 | DeadZergling | even if it is only rocks |
| 01:18.41 | Psywisp | It's an example though |
| 01:19.04 | ArcanePariah | Correct, hence our brains is are only strength, thankfully that long terms brains >>>> any other attribute |
| 01:19.07 | DeadZergling | it is a poor one, we always use the environment to our advantage |
| 01:19.11 | ArcanePariah | our* |
| 01:19.12 | DeadZergling | twisting it however we need to |
| 01:19.46 | ArcanePariah | Mind you, that comes with a price tag, biologically we adapt insanely slow |
| 01:19.59 | ArcanePariah | But yeah, we invented this thing called "Culture" to sidestep that issue |
| 01:22.19 | ArcanePariah | Back to the more "real" world, anyone have any idea when the next sc2 patch going to drop? |
| 01:22.43 | ArcanePariah | It seems like it will be somewhat soonish, with the balance changes they are proposing for ladder |
| 01:23.11 | DeadZergling | real world and SC2 in the same sentence, say it ain't so |
| 01:23.42 | DeadZergling | dunno, maybe they'll fix the issue ZR and almaity were having |
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| 01:25.45 | Psywisp | I'm trapped in a dream |
| 01:25.52 | Psywisp | There is no real world |
| 01:29.10 | hobbidude | how can i create a patrol loop in triggers without using an enter region event? |
| 01:36.49 | DeadZergling | could use more description hobbidude |
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| 01:37.18 | DeadZergling | I can think of a few things off the bat, but would like more description first :) |
| 01:37.45 | hobbidude | you know how in game if you put the last patrol point on the first one it creates a circle patrol automatically |
| 01:38.13 | DeadZergling | sure |
| 01:38.35 | hobbidude | looking to do that in triggers but in a single trigger |
| 01:39.12 | DeadZergling | so you want a unit to patrol from the point he is at to an ordered point back and forth? |
| 01:39.18 | DeadZergling | without using enter region triggers? |
| 01:39.22 | Obscene | Now are you looking to order the unit to patrol, or set up points where the last point connects to the first point? |
| 01:39.59 | DeadZergling | seems like an issue order thing to me where you'd just use 2 points |
| 01:40.22 | DeadZergling | should be a way to perfectly replicate that using a trigger |
| 01:40.37 | Obscene | You can create points in triggers right? |
| 01:40.49 | DeadZergling | not sure on that one, you may not need to |
| 01:40.55 | Obscene | Also could you create a region in triggers |
| 01:40.58 | DeadZergling | could just move 2, use them for the order, then drop them |
| 01:41.06 | DeadZergling | i would assume an order targets a points last location |
| 01:41.10 | DeadZergling | not wherever it might go |
| 01:41.14 | Obscene | well if you can do both, then create a point and have a trigger so when you click around that point(A region) then it will use that point |
| 01:55.05 | hobbidude | srry was away |
| 01:55.28 | hobbidude | was looking to set up pts where the last connect to the first |
| 01:57.11 | Obscene | Well a possibility hobbidude, is you could place a dummy unit (with no draw), and then give him a behavior that goes off(with validators) when another unit(place a dummy unit each time)gets close enough to him that links that unit. |
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| 01:59.57 | DeadZergling | I'm out anyways, take it easy |
| 02:01.12 | Obscene | peace out |
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| 03:42.51 | SirDeeDs | Hello. Can anyone explain the new camera option of pitchroll to me? |
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| 05:43.11 | Enexy-Home | allo dear young ones |
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| 06:17.04 | Vailreth | goodnight people |
| 06:17.20 | Obscene | I need to write a list of things not to discuss with others.. I have a new one to add to said non-existant list... |
| 06:17.26 | Obscene | Global Warming... |
| 06:17.36 | Obscene | appearently some people take that VERY seriously... |
| 06:18.05 | Vail|Gone | yes some do |
| 06:20.09 | Obscene | I mean like relgion serious... |
| 06:20.10 | Obscene | lol |
| 06:20.26 | Obscene | I just find it funny, its just not one of those things I would think that people would get really angry about if you talked against it |
| 06:26.49 | ArcanePariah | So... Blizzard patch today, fixes the load time thing with editor and 4v4's (Maybe they fix the drops people have in games) |
| 06:32.53 | Obscene | Ah cool |
| 06:32.55 | Obscene | good to hear |
| 06:40.00 | Enexy-Home | Would any of you mod a game on SC2 for $8 an hour? |
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| 06:44.02 | RazielZ | Enexy-Home, that's like minimum wage isn't it |
| 06:44.13 | RazielZ | then again, it's more than most people get by making maps |
| 06:44.17 | Obscene | Enexy that depends on what you wnt :) |
| 06:44.27 | Enexy-Home | 8 hours worth of work lol |
| 06:44.35 | Obscene | What kind of work thoug?h |
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| 06:44.38 | Obscene | difficulty 1-10 |
| 06:44.41 | Enexy-Home | depends ... |
| 06:44.50 | Enexy-Home | If I were to do it, I would hire a data editor |
| 06:44.52 | Obscene | data triggers or terrain? or a mix |
| 06:44.55 | Enexy-Home | and not the data editor in the sc2 |
| 06:44.57 | Enexy-Home | my own data |
| 06:45.05 | Enexy-Home | slave work |
| 06:45.08 | Obscene | ? what do you mean your own data? |
| 06:45.11 | Enexy-Home | creating tooltips |
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| 06:45.13 | Enexy-Home | the formulas for them |
| 06:45.19 | Enexy-Home | I don't use the data editor |
| 06:45.24 | Obscene | ah |
| 06:45.27 | Enexy-Home | I built tools |
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| 06:46.00 | Enexy-Home | I have dynamic tooltips |
| 06:46.00 | Obscene | Well I am about to go to bed, but if you are willing to work with me, I will take a look at what your wanting to do and the pay sounds good enough |
| 06:46.03 | Enexy-Home | so i can't really use data |
| 06:46.15 | Obscene | add Faintwolf on skype |
| 06:46.17 | Enexy-Home | Well, I'll have to see if I get this new job or not |
| 06:46.17 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:46.23 | Obscene | okie :) |
| 06:46.31 | Enexy-Home | I'm here on IRC tue-fri |
| 06:46.37 | Obscene | okie :) |
| 06:46.39 | Enexy-Home | night :) |
| 06:46.42 | Obscene | Night |
| 06:47.26 | Enexy-Home | oh... |
| 06:47.27 | Enexy-Home | tainted |
| 06:47.30 | Enexy-Home | why din I realize |
| 06:47.31 | Enexy-Home | lol |
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| 06:47.48 | Obscene | lol |
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| 06:48.15 | Obscene | of course anytime I work with someone< I keep all my opinions, values, etc to my self, I do remain professional that way |
| 06:48.41 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:48.42 | Enexy-Home | no worries |
| 06:48.56 | Enexy-Home | compnies nowadays want the opposite usually |
| 06:49.05 | Enexy-Home | they want your opinions, values, etc |
| 06:49.24 | Enexy-Home | this ain't Asia XD |
| 06:49.51 | Obscene | lawl |
| 06:50.17 | Obscene | Meh, in that case, My opinions, values, etc are the same as whoever i am working for haha |
| 06:50.24 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:50.30 | Obscene | with slight modifications for efficientcy |
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| 06:51.02 | Enexy-Home | well, you know my project alredy |
| 06:51.06 | Enexy-Home | already* |
| 06:51.11 | Enexy-Home | You already expressed your thoughts on it before |
| 06:51.16 | Obscene | Really? |
| 06:51.19 | Obscene | Whats it called |
| 06:51.23 | Enexy-Home | Rise of Nigma |
| 06:51.47 | Obscene | Nigma... you work with that other guy I havent seen in about a year and dont like much.. |
| 06:51.56 | Obscene | Hmm I dont remember playing it though, One sec lemme check the gameplay |
| 06:51.58 | Enexy-Home | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/player-zone/map-feedback/44412-rise-of-nigma-rpg/ |
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| 06:52.04 | Enexy-Home | I only work with Nebuli |
| 06:52.32 | Obscene | Ah that was it Nebuli :P, We get along but we have our differences |
| 06:52.39 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:53.19 | Obscene | The project looks interesting but I dont remember ever actually playing it |
| 06:53.38 | Enexy-Home | no one really has |
| 06:53.44 | Enexy-Home | I only have a small alpha up on b.net atm |
| 06:53.47 | Enexy-Home | you can kill zerglings |
| 06:53.58 | Enexy-Home | get 1000000 hats |
| 06:54.04 | Obscene | Ah okay |
| 06:54.10 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:54.17 | Obscene | I remember what I said abou tit.. I said it looked like that Tri... something map |
| 06:54.23 | Obscene | The one bounty worked on |
| 06:54.25 | Enexy-Home | tomorrow marks my 2 year anniversery on it |
| 06:54.32 | Obscene | Ah cool |
| 06:54.48 | Obscene | Well not cool, you need something better to do lawl jk |
| 06:55.02 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:55.08 | Enexy-Home | I wish I had a nice team like SCU |
| 06:55.09 | Obscene | Good to know there are some other good projects still going though |
| 06:55.27 | Enexy-Home | thanks lol |
| 06:55.30 | Obscene | I have a single reliable teammate and about 5 others who help from time to time when they feel like it |
| 06:55.44 | Obscene | The reliable gets bored of mapping pretty often though. |
| 06:55.45 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 06:56.01 | ArcanePariah | Yeah... I wish I had 1 more person to help me, I can do most things but man the time gets chewed up fast... |
| 06:56.22 | Obscene | yeah, I spent the past 2 days working on these dialogs http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Screenshot2013-08-1915_50_18_zps086fe31a.jpg?t=1376958151 |
| 06:56.30 | Enexy-Home | Join me instead Arcane. |
| 06:56.33 | Obscene | Gotta make the images myself in photoshop since I hate the default ones |
| 06:56.44 | Enexy-Home | oh nice, not a bad UI at all |
| 06:56.55 | Enexy-Home | I have made 1400 images for my project so far |
| 06:57.00 | Obscene | nice |
| 06:57.06 | Obscene | I have made roughly 50-100 |
| 06:57.08 | Enexy-Home | about 300 got scrapped, still imported tho |
| 06:57.31 | Enexy-Home | I got right-click drag and drop system :) |
| 06:57.35 | Enexy-Home | Just finished it the other day |
| 06:57.58 | Obscene | I usually focus on stuff like these attachments (ignore the phoenix on the 1/2 immortal its a bug) |
| 06:57.59 | Obscene | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain178_zps0961cc4c.jpg |
| 06:58.13 | Enexy-Home | data stuff? |
| 06:58.28 | Obscene | yup |
| 06:58.49 | Enexy-Home | oh |
| 06:58.50 | Obscene | I do data mainly, Decent triggers, and okay terrain(i can only make symmetrical arenas) |
| 06:59.04 | Enexy-Home | I see |
| 06:59.54 | Obscene | and I do moderate artwork(thats being generous its pretty crappy most of the time) |
| 07:00.00 | Enexy-Home | lol |
| 07:00.06 | Enexy-Home | it's pretty good |
| 07:00.32 | Enexy-Home | Well I gotta head to sleep too |
| 07:00.39 | Enexy-Home | You should join me regardless, tainted :) |
| 07:00.47 | Enexy-Home | I like your ideas with the units |
| 07:01.07 | Obscene | Alrighty, ill be on tomorrow so ill join then |
| 07:14.25 | Psywisp | ... |
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| 07:47.18 | zenx | morning |
| 07:49.07 | duckies | shh, don't wake anyone up |
| 07:49.46 | zenx | irc had nice effect on me |
| 07:49.58 | zenx | had motivation to do some of my own game |
| 07:53.00 | zenx | the visuals are guiet horendous at this point |
| 07:53.13 | zenx | but that should be easy to change once the core game is done |
| 07:53.16 | duckies | but that's to be expected, isn't it? :D |
| 07:54.07 | zenx | true |
| 07:54.28 | zenx | I sort of like the "portraits" iv done thou |
| 07:54.31 | zenx | wana see? |
| 07:56.30 | Psywisp | I'd like to see :D |
| 07:57.36 | duckies | hehe |
| 07:57.42 | duckies | yeah, drop me a link |
| 07:57.57 | zenx | http://imgur.com/WUA9vk1 |
| 07:58.14 | Psywisp | lol |
| 07:58.22 | duckies | yeah, that's awesome! :D |
| 07:58.32 | zenx | :D |
| 07:58.42 | SirDeeDs | Anyone know how to keep a copy doodads pitch and roll? Rather than just having to keep doing it again. |
| 07:58.58 | zenx | Iv also done sprite for the battles |
| 07:59.01 | zenx | its sorta sucky |
| 07:59.04 | zenx | but I guess I could show it |
| 07:59.11 | duckies | ooh, sprite art |
| 07:59.15 | Psywisp | It's nice :p |
| 07:59.24 | Psywisp | I probably couldn't do that |
| 07:59.46 | duckies | you can show so that I can compare on how much you've improved later on |
| 08:00.30 | zenx | http://imgur.com/hfuW0NM |
| 08:00.36 | zenx | Iv tried different variations |
| 08:00.40 | zenx | and walking anitmations too |
| 08:00.48 | zenx | thats pretty much what I can do |
| 08:02.00 | duckies | reminds me of prince of persia :D |
| 08:02.20 | zenx | I used that as a reference :D |
| 08:03.21 | zenx | variation 2 : http://i.imgur.com/KcNfD8G.gif |
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| 08:03.58 | zenx | aand thats about what I got for art |
| 08:04.05 | duckies | he looks liek he's dueling like a classy gent he is |
| 08:04.06 | zenx | I also did art for custom buttons |
| 08:04.15 | zenx | and some boundries |
| 08:04.29 | duckies | show all the art! |
| 08:04.40 | zenx | might as well I suppose |
| 08:04.46 | zenx | since who knows if this ever gets finished |
| 08:06.13 | zenx | http://imgur.com/eu5eiMM |
| 08:06.29 | zenx | thats a prototype for "popup messages" |
| 08:07.29 | duckies | you know, it's pretty damn cool |
| 08:07.34 | zenx | thanks |
| 08:07.54 | Psywisp | yep |
| 08:08.43 | zenx | now Im pretty much at a point where I need to make the game mechanics |
| 08:08.55 | zenx | probly simple mechanics at first and expand later if it works |
| 08:09.07 | duckies | you have stuff planned out? |
| 08:09.11 | zenx | yup |
| 08:09.18 | duckies | cause I have no idea how management game works :D |
| 08:09.42 | zenx | basically there is stuff where you can get income and stuff that spends your money |
| 08:09.48 | zenx | manage between that and fighters |
| 08:11.29 | duckies | that is pretty exotic to me. But if you need a public later on I'm willing to give it a try. |
| 08:12.00 | zenx | aye |
| 08:12.04 | duckies | dr. Light is just charming :3 |
| 08:12.09 | zenx | hopefully it would be atleast half decent |
| 08:14.55 | zenx | I think they key to succes would be "fun management aspects" and "fun combat" and lots of random events and stuff |
| 08:15.01 | zenx | keeping it from getting repative |
| 08:15.11 | duckies | how is combat done? |
| 08:15.26 | zenx | I was thinking of eithe AI or player can control if he wants |
| 08:15.44 | zenx | probly AI first and perhaps more stuff later |
| 08:15.50 | zenx | likme would be cool to have blocking |
| 08:15.54 | zenx | and dodging |
| 08:15.59 | zenx | and attacks and super attacks |
| 08:16.25 | duckies | and unique techniques and triats for gladiators.. |
| 08:16.44 | zenx | its more fun to talk about it than actually do it :D |
| 08:20.17 | zenx | oh man |
| 08:20.21 | zenx | I love sc2mapster drama |
| 08:20.31 | zenx | reading that wisp thread |
| 08:20.32 | duckies | I find it tiresome |
| 08:21.59 | duckies | sadly, drama threads is the most activity mapster ever sees |
| 08:22.57 | zenx | people are busy with flaming instead of mapping |
| 08:23.03 | zenx | thats why there are no new maps |
| 08:23.36 | duckies | people are stumped and unenthusiastic about their maps, so they procastinate mapping by flaming |
| 08:24.06 | zenx | I did read heastrone FAQ today btw |
| 08:24.13 | zenx | so |
| 08:24.19 | zenx | I think its likely beta will come to EU someday |
| 08:24.22 | zenx | just much later |
| 08:25.06 | Psywisp | Lol why don't they procrastinate by playing SC ^^ |
| 08:25.59 | duckies | speaking from experience, I don't like most of what sc offers |
| 08:26.15 | duckies | yeah, "soon" zenxu :D |
| 08:27.48 | zenx | Im sort of amazed that sc2 esports is even alive at this point |
| 08:27.52 | zenx | isnt it so stale? |
| 08:28.30 | Psywisp | x_x |
| 08:28.30 | Psywisp | no |
| 08:28.32 | duckies | no idea, i stopped following melee a year after release cause of boring toss-ball play ;/ |
| 08:28.47 | Psywisp | so basically |
| 08:29.01 | Psywisp | you guys are like the majority of wc3 players |
| 08:29.23 | duckies | just not my cup of tea, and hots didn't make my lovely toss any more exciting ;/ |
| 08:29.47 | Psywisp | well, I actually enjoy 1v1 xD |
| 08:29.48 | duckies | so, we are like majority of BlizzRTS players *gasp* :D |
| 08:29.53 | Psywisp | :O |
| 08:30.00 | zenx | did blizz contact you duckies for improving the arcade? |
| 08:30.24 | duckies | that letter was sent to all makers of featured maps, so yea ;/ |
| 08:30.34 | zenx | did you give the awesome suggestions? |
| 08:30.46 | Psywisp | what maps did you make? :o |
| 08:31.08 | duckies | but there isn't much to suggest, since they asked for b-net and arcade suggestions, not editor improvements like most of that thread seem to thing |
| 08:31.53 | duckies | whatever I made is now old, forgotten and looks lame, so it's irrelevant :D |
| 08:32.08 | Psywisp | D: |
| 08:32.21 | Psywisp | what was it though? |
| 08:32.33 | duckies | damnit, why do I always misspell "think" with "thing" x_x |
| 08:32.39 | duckies | bomberman map |
| 08:32.46 | Psywisp | :o |
| 08:32.51 | Psywisp | cool |
| 08:33.30 | Psywisp | btw I'm not taintedwisp x_x |
| 08:34.25 | duckies | ..okay :D |
| 09:22.46 | Psywisp | night |
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| 12:00.30 | Ahli | :X, I need a SSD. the loading time of sc2 is killing me... |
| 12:04.29 | Lajjla | an |
| 12:12.02 | RazielZ | several* |
| 12:12.16 | RazielZ | raid10 off 8 250GB ssds |
| 12:12.17 | RazielZ | gogogo |
| 12:39.57 | G0A | new patch! |
| 12:41.14 | G0A | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10580510/starcraft-ii-2011-patch-notes-20-08-2013#best |
| 12:43.23 | G0A | Editor |
| 12:43.24 | G0A | Fixed an issue where users were encountering long load times when loading into a map from the editor. |
| 12:43.26 | G0A | time to map:D |
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| 13:51.04 | Obscene | EA gamescom in 10 minute http://live-event.ea.com/gamescom/\ |
| 13:51.45 | duckies | gamescom! it's that thing where blizz will announce d3 exp? |
| 13:51.55 | duckies | I nearly forgot about it, thanks! |
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| 13:53.14 | Obscene | thats tomorrow |
| 13:53.19 | Obscene | Press conferences today |
| 13:53.23 | Obscene | From EA< Sony and MIcrosoft |
| 13:53.35 | Obscene | each are announcing new games, products, etc. |
| 13:53.52 | Obscene | blizz will make their announcement on the ground floor at some point in the next 3 days |
| 13:54.06 | Obscene | and its not just d3 expansion theres also probably a WoW expansion |
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| 13:57.31 | duckies | I see, tyvm |
| 14:05.28 | Dustin | Oh realllly |
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| 14:12.12 | Ahli | oh, the sims game looks really boring... psychology, rockets, ... |
| 14:16.04 | Obscene | yeah |
| 14:16.11 | Obscene | Command and conker looks REALLY bad |
| 14:17.22 | Ahli | I agree |
| 14:18.09 | Obscene | Though if that was Live, real time gameplay, it could be interesting if its well balanced the REALLY quick gameplay |
| 14:18.17 | Obscene | even if it does look like a bad turd |
| 14:24.23 | Obscene | SOOOO great |
| 14:24.38 | Obscene | hes talking about PVZ 2 and hes saying the wrong numbers, and the numbers on the bored are calling him out |
| 14:29.36 | Obscene | NOticed he saId "First in xbox one and 360", so yeah expect ps4 |
| 14:50.07 | A1win | https://twitter.com/ApolloSC2/status/369823567577219072 |
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| 14:53.02 | Vailreth | hello |
| 14:53.07 | Obscene | hey vail |
| 14:55.06 | Vailreth | when i am more awake i need to do a few things |
| 14:55.28 | Obscene | lol |
| 14:55.42 | whitenigga | okay |
| 14:55.55 | Obscene | If you look up there is a Gamescom link |
| 14:56.02 | Obscene | white, whats your forum name? |
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| 15:02.41 | Obscene | EA in 2 years will have a new logo |
| 15:02.51 | Obscene | "Free A Sports, its in your wallet" |
| 15:04.43 | Ahli | http://www.usk.de/titelsuche/aktuell-geprueft/ D3Expansion trailer |
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| 15:09.25 | Zandose | hi |
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| 15:13.12 | Vailreth | i should be modeling in the front and rear facing cameras on my virtual prop thing |
| 15:13.28 | Fenix | Hey there! How do I create an arrow or something to show the direction of a unit. Like in the tank game where you have an arrow with offset showing the front of your tank. This is what I'm looking to create |
| 15:14.08 | Fenix | so when i select a unit, it shows something based on an angle |
| 15:14.38 | Ahli | attach actor to the unit and add a site operation that offsets the attached actor by a negative Y value |
| 15:14.53 | Ahli | actor creation/destruction is based on selection |
| 15:15.07 | Vailreth | for me i would use actor events to create an arrow actor like Ahli said |
| 15:15.12 | Fenix | can you use custom unit value into the actors? |
| 15:15.18 | Ahli | no |
| 15:15.39 | Ahli | but actors have state values, which can act the same |
| 15:15.46 | Fenix | if I unselect the unit and later on select it, will the actors show the arrow at the last position? |
| 15:15.50 | Ahli | so, you would set custom value and send actor message with state to the unit |
| 15:16.01 | Ahli | arrow would be attached to the unit |
| 15:16.16 | A1win | is there a simple way to detect which player controls a xel'naga tower and/or when the controller changes? |
| 15:16.24 | Obscene | yeah fenix to do that, you would have to set opacity of the actor to 0 when unselected, otherwise it will always show |
| 15:16.58 | Ahli | or destroy it when unselected |
| 15:17.03 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 15:17.05 | Obscene | yeah you can destroy it too |
| 15:17.06 | Ahli | just like the range actors |
| 15:17.18 | Fenix | and if the angle is variable into my triggers, how to i get it to the actors? xD |
| 15:17.35 | Zandose | unit facing |
| 15:17.37 | Obscene | Well the arrow would be facing whichever way the unit is facing no matter what |
| 15:17.38 | Vailreth | is the angle not the direction the unit is facing? |
| 15:18.02 | Fenix | not at all, the unit will be static and the arrow moving around it |
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| 15:18.23 | Obscene | Ah, I see so you want an arrow to be pointing AT a unit at all times correct? |
| 15:18.41 | Vailreth | no i believe he wants it point from the unit |
| 15:18.45 | Fenix | i want an arrow pointing from a unit |
| 15:19.18 | Vailreth | but you dont want the unit to turn? |
| 15:19.24 | Fenix | nop |
| 15:19.41 | Fenix | and im using triggers to set the angle |
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| 15:20.27 | Obscene | hmm Then I think the best thing to do(the easiest) would be to create a dummy unit with 0 opacity, and attach the arrow to that unit, then just move that unit to face whichever way you want to turn the arrow |
| 15:21.03 | Vailreth | after i patch i will test some things there may be a more efficient wat |
| 15:21.06 | Vailreth | way* |
| 15:21.11 | Fenix | by "attach the arrow to the unit" what do you mean? |
| 15:21.28 | Obscene | VERY simple site operations. |
| 15:21.57 | Vailreth | you may be able to make the Actor maintain its facing while the unit actually turns |
| 15:22.13 | Obscene | its just a matter of using unit birth event for create, and then setting it to SoPattachCenter (use marine model for the invisible unit) |
| 15:22.45 | Vailreth | you could also use the invisible model built in |
| 15:22.56 | Vailreth | it has collision and such |
| 15:22.57 | Obscene | is there one built in? |
| 15:22.58 | Fenix | umm |
| 15:23.03 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 15:23.07 | ThunderLord | hey can anyone explain to me what the "Internal Flag" on objects in the trigger editor does exactly? |
| 15:23.09 | Obscene | good to know |
| 15:23.32 | Fenix | I'll see what I can do, thx for help |
| 15:23.42 | Obscene | yeah if you have any questions just ask then here |
| 15:23.47 | Vailreth | the invisible model is used by the spine crawler for its missile |
| 15:24.12 | Obscene | ah |
| 15:24.26 | Obscene | I still prefer the marine but to each his own :P |
| 15:33.35 | Vailreth | well i have been called to do yard work later folks |
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| 15:36.22 | mille25 | hi |
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| 15:44.18 | Fenix | a little question, how do you do so when you click a dialog item it does something and when you release the click, it does something else. Think about fireing system when you must hold the fire button until the power you wish and release to shoot |
| 15:47.14 | Obscene | Do you mean like toggle buttons, or like click and hold th eclick down? |
| 15:47.49 | Obscene | Ah I see |
| 15:47.58 | Ahli | events have "down" and "up" |
| 15:48.08 | Ahli | press/release |
| 15:48.48 | Fenix | umm |
| 15:50.04 | Fenix | Ahli, i dont see any event with down or up or press or release, in the search |
| 16:02.14 | Fenix | so? |
| 16:04.36 | Fenix | how to do if heigh of units is between X and Y, do whatever, waht is the math for that |
| 16:06.07 | A1win | JademusSreg, got any idea how to detect when xel'naga tower uses tower capture with triggers? <.< |
| 16:08.18 | Fenix | A1, what about adding in the actors something like when it gets controlled, add behavior and then detect taht behavior with trigger? xD Or whatever could work |
| 16:10.30 | Fenix | how to do if heigh of units is between X and Y |
| 16:11.24 | A1win | actors are asynchronous, can't detect their messages by server |
| 16:13.04 | Fenix | there is surely a way to have a behavior do somethign that you can detect with triggers... like an effect or whatever |
| 16:13.24 | A1win | of course, but there is no behavior |
| 16:13.45 | A1win | tower capture is an ability of its own type and isn't very customizable |
| 16:14.08 | A1win | it isn't even creating "unit uses ability" or "unit is issued order" events :| |
| 16:14.34 | A1win | starting to look like I would have to fake the whole thing |
| 16:14.54 | Fenix | but.. in the actors, there is something, an event, that changes the models that reveals the area and stuff, if you use that event to apply a behavior you might be able no? |
| 16:15.10 | A1win | actors can't create behaviors |
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| 16:18.41 | Fenix | well, create a unit with the actor and then, use unit entered the map in the trigger |
| 16:19.23 | A1win | actors can't create any game objects, they are just for visuals and audio |
| 16:19.52 | A1win | they are completely irrelevant to this problem ;p |
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| 16:23.14 | Fenix | and unit uses ability event does not work? |
| 16:23.21 | A1win | nope |
| 16:27.31 | Fenix | and... where do you set the range it reveals? |
| 16:27.51 | A1win | the Xel'Naga Tower unit's vision |
| 16:27.54 | A1win | it just shares its own vision |
| 16:29.06 | A1win | anyway, looks like it's pretty easy to simulate its behavior with a script |
| 16:29.49 | Fenix | well... and how to I set the math in this : if heigh of units is between X and Y? |
| 16:30.40 | A1win | if height of unit >= X and height of unit <= Y |
| 16:30.58 | Fenix | gosh im stupid. |
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| 16:50.43 | Fenix | AHAHHHHHHHHH I'm gonna freak out this stupid editor as sh*t! |
| 16:52.18 | Fenix | I'm not crazy am I? This condition: 0.1 <= (Height of (Last created unit)) <= 1.9 should only make the actions if the unit heigh is within 0.1 and 1.9, a cliff heigh is 2, and low ground is 0. So, this should only happend when it is on a cliff |
| 16:52.30 | Fenix | why the hell it is not the case!? xD |
| 16:54.49 | RazielZ | uh |
| 16:54.56 | RazielZ | didn't you just say a cliff is 2 |
| 16:55.24 | Fenix | yes but tsss... i think i got it, let the idea get to my mind and fix the bug... |
| 16:55.47 | RazielZ | shouldn't it check if height is more than 2 then? |
| 16:56.39 | Obscene | http://www.videogamer.com/features/live_coverage_chat/sony_gamescom_2013_press_conference_with_live_chat_6pm_bst.html |
| 16:56.43 | Obscene | Sony live stream |
| 16:56.46 | Obscene | Up in 4 minutes |
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| 17:08.49 | Obscene | and sony is late... |
| 17:08.50 | Obscene | haha |
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| 17:09.38 | Obscene | It started |
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| 17:32.20 | Obscene | WOW, THAT MURISAKIBABY GAME LOOKS FANTASTIC |
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| 17:45.05 | Vail|Gone | creepy but fantastic |
| 17:46.22 | Vailreth | "we dont know what he is doing, but er we are glad he is doing it here " -- Sony |
| 18:31.52 | Ahli | :S there is a house burning... only 1-2 houses inbetween the burning one and this one |
| 18:43.31 | whitenigga | pew pew http://www.twitch.tv/playstation |
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| 18:45.23 | Obscene | :) |
| 19:01.00 | JademusSreg | Grok. |
| 19:01.34 | Kueken1 | I assume thats a Klingon greeting? |
| 19:01.44 | Kueken1 | in this case: Gar-Rach! |
| 19:01.57 | JademusSreg | More a "I'm fucking sick" greeting. |
| 19:02.36 | Kueken | thats fucking sad |
| 19:02.51 | Kueken | you should fucking stop that |
| 19:03.36 | Obscene | Why you sick jademus? |
| 19:06.02 | JademusSreg | Taint, if I had to guess, either a viral or bacterial infection, with a slim chance of fungal or chemical pathogen. |
| 19:07.08 | JademusSreg | Kueken, I fucking intend to fucking stop being fucking sick at the fucking soonest fucking possible fucking opportunity. |
| 19:07.36 | Kueken | fucking good luck with that! |
| 19:07.47 | JademusSreg | Oh how I've missed the intellectual calibre of the banter here. |
| 19:08.01 | Obscene | HEY, for a sick guy... theres a whole lot of fuckin going on |
| 19:08.06 | Kueken | yeah, our conversations are always a delight |
| 19:08.33 | JademusSreg | ♥ |
| 19:09.40 | Obscene | Sony is really impressing me with the PS4, they are announcing some games that I cant wait to play, The shadow of the beast I hope is really good, I really liked the old amiga ones |
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| 19:19.37 | JademusSreg | Roboitussin is kicking in. Zoooop |
| 19:20.11 | Obscene | Jademus, if that doesnt work, there is the old cure that never fails |
| 19:20.27 | Obscene | Get 2 fifths of whisky... and have a good night. |
| 19:20.35 | Ahli | alright, seems like I won't be homeless :D |
| 19:20.47 | Obscene | WOHOO no homelessness for ahli! |
| 19:26.34 | JademusSreg | Homelessness isn't so bad. But glad you're not about to perish in a fire, Ahli. |
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| 19:41.30 | Ahli | no... but it burned in the restaurant where I eat 1-2 times per week... |
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| 19:45.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | anybody have any beta kes for hearthstone |
| 19:45.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i would like to give that game a try |
| 19:46.24 | Ahli | I assume most people would like one |
| 19:46.47 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | will this game be free to play when it comes out? |
| 19:47.29 | Obscene | Dragon wait a few weeks, the first wave was reserved for contest, Community people(husky, Day9,etc) and "pros" |
| 19:47.31 | Ahli | yes |
| 19:47.44 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ah ok Obscene |
| 19:47.52 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | and thats good to hear ahli |
| 19:48.37 | Ahli | hearthstone is free and will generate income via stuff you can purchase. The beta has deck-packs (5 random cards) to purchase with money or 150 gold. When you win, you gain 1 gold. Then there are quests that give you gold, so the game wants you to play a bit every day |
| 19:48.40 | Obscene | Fireworks baloons, weather, do not work well in teh cutscene editor do they? |
| 19:48.52 | Obscene | Yeah it works like most other card games online work dragon :) |
| 19:48.57 | Obscene | YOu buy booster packs |
| 19:49.13 | Obscene | but you can also unlock cards by playing |
| 19:49.34 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | well all i know ids magic is a payed game plus you buy booster packs on steam |
| 19:52.17 | Obscene | yeah magic is kinda weird like htat :/ |
| 19:53.11 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | magic is super expensive but i did find a free multiplayer version of it that runs under lackeyccg |
| 19:58.47 | Vailreth | http://youtu.be/UsoXR_f3ZOI |
| 20:05.20 | RazielZ | there's lots of free multiplayer platforms that you can play magic on |
| 20:05.23 | RazielZ | but there's so many cards to choose from like that qq |
| 20:07.37 | Obscene | I wish I was more creative :/ |
| 20:07.51 | Obscene | Cool vail |
| 20:20.13 | Obscene | Quick cutscene editor question |
| 20:20.19 | Obscene | How do I move something that doesnt have the box? |
| 20:21.09 | Obscene | nvm |
| 20:21.21 | Psywisp | hi friends |
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| 20:39.42 | Obscene | HM IS there a reason why one of my models wont display in game when placed in teh cutscene editor |
| 20:41.47 | Vailreth | which model is it? |
| 20:43.17 | DeadZergling | probably a ridiculous attachment special, knowing him |
| 20:45.40 | DeadZergling | First world childhood problems: http://www.smbc-comics.com/ |
| 20:45.56 | Obscene | its a menu back drop |
| 20:47.25 | Obscene | Also is there a way to make it remove the terrain? |
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| 21:15.34 | JademusSreg | Thank goodness a linebreak in a parameter set is valid in galaxy. Otherwise wrapping my systems would be that much more difficult. |
| 21:18.10 | A1win | apollo was asking earlier today for an FFA map where you win by controlling a xel'naga tower, I responsed by making one :X http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/tc/SC2%202013-08-21%2000-11-03-39.jpg |
| 21:18.15 | A1win | (on twitter) |
| 21:18.38 | DeadZergling | feeling better today then Jade? |
| 21:18.50 | JademusSreg | Some hacky leveraging of GUI custom script flag and custom script macro allows the user to manually input the function name to add it to the action queue. |
| 21:19.00 | JademusSreg | And no, but sleeping is boring. |
| 21:20.04 | JademusSreg | So the actions basically work by taking custom script, which it then wraps with Action_QueueAdd(#CUSTOM); |
| 21:20.43 | JademusSreg | It's the next best solution, since implementing funcref didn't seem feasible. |
| 21:23.46 | Obscene | A1win he was asking if there was a FIFA map :P |
| 21:23.49 | mille25 | JademusSreg: Do you have any idea for what technical reasons they decided to remove pointers from Galaxy? I've heard that they existed in the beginning. |
| 21:24.05 | mille25 | Would make all this ref shit unnecessary. :( |
| 21:26.50 | mille25 | Maybe its just a rumour though, can't actually find any sources. |
| 21:27.11 | JademusSreg | The initial implementaion was broken. |
| 21:27.31 | mille25 | How did the syntax look? C-like with * and &? |
| 21:27.50 | JademusSreg | It existed syntactically, but didn't much function in practice. That, plus even if it did work, it may have posed a security risk. |
| 21:28.41 | mille25 | Interresting. |
| 21:28.58 | A1win | Obscene, obviously |
| 21:29.04 | JademusSreg | It was removed in beta patch 9. |
| 21:29.12 | mille25 | But its also quite sad thinking about how much would have been possible with pointers. |
| 21:29.27 | JademusSreg | But since it didn't function correctly in the first place, "removed" is probably too strong a word. |
| 21:29.38 | mille25 | Might explain why the language seems to miss so many essencial features, might have been designed with pointers in mind. |
| 21:30.50 | Kueken | needs more boobs |
| 21:32.48 | mille25 | :o |
| 21:39.53 | Ahli | kueken drunk or zolden cloaked as kueken? |
| 21:40.35 | Kueken | I hardly drink at all |
| 21:40.42 | Kueken | so I must be zolden, I guess |
| 21:40.57 | Kueken | wait until I make a hitler joke to confirm |
| 21:46.41 | Obscene | Probably a little of both |
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| 22:19.33 | MoonEater | Psywisp |
| 22:19.38 | MoonEater | havent been banned yet? |
| 22:20.33 | Psywisp | no |
| 22:20.39 | Psywisp | Why would I be banned |
| 22:20.40 | Psywisp | :D |
| 22:20.45 | MoonEater | right |
| 22:20.46 | MoonEater | XD |
| 22:20.52 | Psywisp | MoonEater |
| 22:20.56 | Psywisp | Stop trolling me please |
| 22:21.00 | MoonEater | DeadZergling is also around |
| 22:21.03 | Psywisp | I'm sure you know what is going on |
| 22:21.04 | MoonEater | PARTY TIME |
| 22:21.24 | MoonEater | so is Obscene |
| 22:21.49 | MoonEater | psywisp trolling you |
| 22:21.53 | MoonEater | im teasing atbest |
| 22:22.01 | Psywisp | what do you mean |
| 22:22.17 | MoonEater | plus on the forums i stuck up gortaintedwisp (im soultaker) |
| 22:22.29 | MoonEater | for* |
| 22:22.29 | Psywisp | oh really |
| 22:22.33 | MoonEater | yes |
| 22:22.36 | Psywisp | cool |
| 22:22.43 | MoonEater | well untill moz checked me |
| 22:22.43 | Psywisp | Do you know who I am? |
| 22:22.48 | MoonEater | nope |
| 22:22.51 | Psywisp | haha |
| 22:23.38 | Psywisp | Well |
| 22:23.41 | Psywisp | Let's just say |
| 22:23.54 | Psywisp | You posted in my threasd |
| 22:24.07 | Psywisp | thread* |
| 22:24.54 | MoonEater | like i said mods have a bone to pick |
| 22:25.00 | MoonEater | WERE IS DEADZERGLING!!! |
| 22:25.04 | MoonEater | leh |
| 22:25.05 | MoonEater | bleh |
| 22:25.37 | MoonEater | oh well |
| 22:26.02 | MoonEater | so anyone done anything interesting lately? |
| 22:26.28 | JademusSreg | Making a GUI wrapper for my TPS system. |
| 22:27.12 | MoonEater | isnt that going to have high lentecy due to syncing with lients? |
| 22:27.30 | MoonEater | the tps system not the ui wraper |
| 22:27.32 | JademusSreg | rolls all the eyes. |
| 22:27.48 | MoonEater | did u mannage to solve the issue? |
| 22:27.57 | MoonEater | or somone else did? |
| 22:28.01 | MoonEater | single player? |
| 22:28.18 | A1win | no one solved the issue |
| 22:28.47 | MoonEater | then why is jade giving me the crazyed eye roll? |
| 22:28.58 | MoonEater | meth? |
| 22:29.26 | A1win | I don't know, the data from his brain has not yet arrived to mine |
| 22:29.53 | MoonEater | i got a question now that i think about it |
| 22:30.25 | MoonEater | i want to steal some ideas from warship and make a stationary battle cruiser |
| 22:30.34 | MoonEater | i saw a picture of somone doing somthing simular |
| 22:30.45 | MoonEater | i assume that took modeling right? |
| 22:30.51 | MoonEater | to get those flat tops |
| 22:31.04 | JademusSreg | 1) I'm sick and am in no mood to entertain such inane discussions. 2) It operates near the theoretical optimum. Bnet latency can't be solved, it can only be mitigated with efficiently designed and implemented systems. People are welcome to test how well my systems run, but a shitty connection will invariably result in shitty gameplay. End. |
| 22:32.11 | Obscene | Hey mooneater, thanks for the sentimate but dont worry about posting in taintedwisp thread :P that wasnt written just for me to feel better :P. No reason causing MORE trouble for the mods :) |
| 22:32.48 | MoonEater | wow jade im sorry... i didnt mean to strike a nerv. anyways, theres vicboys ping system which could allow you to kick laggers im sure u know of it tho |
| 22:33.39 | Obscene | Hes just sick moon :P.Jademus you should change your name to "IDGAF|Sick" haha |
| 22:34.05 | MoonEater | usefulness>sick |
| 22:34.34 | JademusSreg | Taint, but then I'd always need to add IDGAF, because it's always apt. |
| 22:35.04 | MoonEater | over the years in this chat jade has become shorter |
| 22:35.09 | MoonEater | with people |
| 22:35.29 | Obscene | haha |
| 22:35.41 | Obscene | I love you jademus, greatest mod ever :P. |
| 22:35.50 | MoonEater | is he a mod? |
| 22:35.53 | MoonEater | JADE |
| 22:35.58 | MoonEater | when did u get modpowers |
| 22:36.01 | Obscene | yeah, he only appears when absolutely necessary :) |
| 22:36.15 | MoonEater | shit... jade with mod powers.... scarry |
| 22:36.35 | Obscene | I have had mod powers on several large sites :P. not everyone sucks with a little power |
| 22:36.51 | MoonEater | like over a year ago you could catch jade helping nwbies |
| 22:37.00 | JademusSreg | I have been for quite some time, Moon. |
| 22:37.03 | MoonEater | confusing the hell out them |
| 22:37.04 | MoonEater | but helping |
| 22:37.20 | MoonEater | well ur more abrupt now |
| 22:37.51 | Obscene | hah :), thats because over a year ago there were less brilliant mappers, so he was needed more, now if anyone has a question several people will answer |
| 22:37.55 | MoonEater | which isnt a bad thing |
| 22:38.14 | MoonEater | several people woud answer back then also |
| 22:38.23 | Obscene | less in quantity not quality |
| 22:39.00 | MoonEater | only thing i know is that my question was forgoten |
| 22:39.09 | MoonEater | [15:29] <MoonEater> i got a question now that i think about it [15:30] <MoonEater> i want to steal some ideas from warship and make a stationary battle cruiser [15:30] <MoonEater> i saw a picture of somone doing somthing simular [15:30] <MoonEater> i assume that took modeling right? [15:30] <MoonEater> to get those flat tops |
| 22:39.57 | Obscene | Warship, thats the map where you build on the boat right? |
| 22:40.15 | A1win | what's happened to teamliquid's SC2 forums? |
| 22:40.16 | MoonEater | lols at boat |
| 22:40.28 | MoonEater | yesobscene ur right |
| 22:40.44 | MoonEater | its likea moving space platform |
| 22:40.52 | Obscene | What ideas you need to steal from it? its a fairly easy mapt o make |
| 22:40.55 | MoonEater | in the shap of a ship |
| 22:41.00 | Obscene | Its an original idea I wouldn't have thought of though |
| 22:41.01 | MoonEater | well the ships |
| 22:41.18 | MoonEater | i wanted to make a defence game with a large battlecruiser |
| 22:41.21 | Obscene | Thats just attachments + custom footprint then using the build on + field |
| 22:41.49 | MoonEater | ive read the tutorials on attachments |
| 22:41.51 | MoonEater | well |
| 22:41.52 | MoonEater | skimmed them |
| 22:41.55 | Obscene | lol |
| 22:42.02 | Obscene | First you have to build your ship with attachments |
| 22:42.06 | MoonEater | i need the ship first before i start messing with attachements |
| 22:42.12 | Obscene | When you get through with that Ill help you make the custom foot print |
| 22:42.24 | Obscene | you gotta build the ship out of attachments |
| 22:42.25 | MoonEater | i can do foot prints |
| 22:42.32 | MoonEater | but i need the damn ship |
| 22:42.34 | MoonEater | XD |
| 22:42.50 | Obscene | Set phoenix as the units actor |
| 22:42.58 | Obscene | then use model addition model actors to attach to it |
| 22:43.11 | MoonEater | let me show u |
| 22:43.12 | MoonEater | 1 ec |
| 22:45.28 | MoonEater | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/team-recruitment/43176-ftl-game-like-recruitment/ |
| 22:45.36 | MoonEater | i kinda want to steal that battlecruiser |
| 22:45.40 | MoonEater | or somthing simular |
| 22:46.00 | MoonEater | and make a defense/starshp trooper type game |
| 22:47.23 | A1win | isn't that just a terrain with a large battle cruiser model inside it? |
| 22:47.39 | MoonEater | im not sure, but that would be awsome |
| 22:47.47 | MoonEater | i could do that no problem |
| 22:48.04 | A1win | though I can't see how those walls actually are |
| 22:48.33 | MoonEater | its notpossible to make terrain move is it? |
| 22:48.35 | MoonEater | cause of the pathing |
| 22:48.40 | A1win | nope ;p |
| 22:48.56 | MoonEater | but doing that as a defense map |
| 22:49.00 | MoonEater | i could do taht |
| 22:49.15 | Obscene | Then steal that one |
| 22:49.39 | MoonEater | i might but i feel bad especialy since u use the word steal |
| 22:49.45 | MoonEater | i know the concept would be different |
| 22:49.46 | MoonEater | but |
| 22:49.48 | Obscene | You can make a space ship and have the space ship stuff built on top of it... |
| 22:49.53 | Obscene | YOu can build a unit on top of another unit |
| 22:50.04 | Obscene | you just have to build the ship yourself |
| 22:50.42 | MoonEater | i wanted a scv and stuff |
| 22:50.48 | MoonEater | and i want to build walls |
| 23:00.54 | Obscene | Thats a LOT of work.. but its possible |
| 23:02.25 | MoonEater | naw |
| 23:02.33 | MoonEater | half size of suply depos |
| 23:02.45 | MoonEater | then use pathing check to see if theres a hull breach |
| 23:02.53 | MoonEater | rest pretty much falls into place |
| 23:03.13 | MoonEater | Obscene porn flake ping |
| 23:03.18 | Obscene | lol |
| 23:03.44 | Obscene | if your talking about building a ship from scratch, its a lot of work(if you want the player to be able to do it |
| 23:04.00 | MoonEater | of course i want players todo it |
| 23:04.02 | MoonEater | well |
| 23:04.03 | Obscene | Honestly if there were server-side banks that we could acess I owuld create a ship builder :P |
| 23:04.08 | MoonEater | ill preplace walls and stuff |
| 23:04.09 | MoonEater | but |
| 23:04.10 | MoonEater | ya |
| 23:04.14 | MoonEater | they get to play captain |
| 23:04.18 | Obscene | Well I guess I dont have to have server side banks |
| 23:04.37 | Obscene | its perfectly possible without server side banks, just name the banks the same thing |
| 23:04.39 | MoonEater | server side banks? |
| 23:04.42 | MoonEater | imean |
| 23:04.48 | MoonEater | what does that matter |
| 23:04.57 | Obscene | To transfer data from 1 map to another |
| 23:05.11 | MoonEater | what data? |
| 23:05.26 | Obscene | That way you could create 2 maps, 1 single player, 1 where you create a ship from the ground up, and 1 where you use it in some kind of game. |
| 23:06.10 | Obscene | You would want the maps to be seperate so when people play together they can use their own ships. without having to wait for others to build theres, and if they dont have one pre-built give them a generic one |
| 23:06.31 | Obscene | hmmm... this idea is starting to interest me :/ I might consider doing this large project myself |
| 23:08.25 | MoonEater | obscene u dont need serverside banks forsecuirty |
| 23:08.45 | Obscene | I am not talking about for security |
| 23:08.47 | MoonEater | u have both maps check banks and make sure they dont exceed a predetermined limit |
| 23:09.16 | Obscene | I dont care about bank security in the least lol |
| 23:09.16 | Obscene | If someone really wants to hack my map, then let them |
| 23:09.22 | MoonEater | then why do they need to be server side? |
| 23:09.34 | Obscene | I wasnt thinking straight, I was thinking it was the only way to Transfer bank data from 1 mod to another. |
| 23:14.16 | MoonEater | sorry ms mooneater jacked me |
| 23:14.56 | MoonEater | Obscene, i wouldnt not mind working with u if u need another hand but i doubt u do |
| 23:15.03 | MoonEater | u should do it |
| 23:15.14 | Obscene | I have my hands full atm :P |
| 23:15.22 | Obscene | I have a list of "Future Projects" |
| 23:15.28 | Obscene | a very very very long list... |
| 23:15.33 | Obscene | its like 15 projects long |
| 23:15.47 | Obscene | each of which would take 1+ months to complete minimu |
| 23:15.57 | Obscene | half of which rely on me finishing my current project :P |
| 23:18.02 | Vailreth | remeber the safety word is Banana ... |
| 23:18.25 | Obscene | pork chop... |
| 23:18.42 | MoonEater | lol |
| 23:18.46 | MoonEater | patch crashedmy etior |
| 23:18.53 | Obscene | theres a patch? |
| 23:18.58 | MoonEater | iguess |
| 23:19.03 | MoonEater | iits forcing me to patch |
| 23:19.09 | Obscene | lol |
| 23:20.23 | MoonEater | patch 20.0.11 |
| 23:21.28 | Obscene | I dunno who programmed blizzards patcher but they are amazing.. |
| 23:21.44 | Obscene | The launcher pulls all the bandwidth away from everything else in the house all to the launcher... |
| 23:21.46 | Obscene | lol |
| 23:22.07 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Starcraft%202/JadeLib%20TPS.SC2Lib |
| 23:22.20 | JademusSreg | That should be functional. |
| 23:22.29 | Obscene | I see the problem in your code jadems... the problem is... its too damn confusing |
| 23:22.32 | MoonEater | naw what happens is the the the patcher is set to high priority property |
| 23:22.44 | JademusSreg | Included an example of how it should be used. |
| 23:23.18 | JademusSreg | Though I admit the examples use a bit of custom script so I didn't need to click on tons of shit. |
| 23:23.40 | JademusSreg | But for the most part the examples are GUI. |
| 23:23.43 | Obscene | Cya later haters |
| 23:26.38 | JademusSreg | Didn't actually test it, because, fuck it, but it replicates the examples from my own script, so it should function properly. |
| 23:28.46 | JademusSreg | Hopefully Vailreth finds a use for it. |
| 23:28.49 | Vailreth | just a quick question that may be obvious but how do you implement it? when i use the link i get well what looks like a text file |
| 23:29.03 | Vailreth | im also very tired and lacking food |
| 23:29.12 | DeadZergling | right click and save as? |
| 23:29.22 | JademusSreg | Ah, it's a SC2Lib file. Which is to say it is XML, save, import into a map. |
| 23:29.32 | Vailreth | ah thanks. |
| 23:29.55 | JademusSreg | Feel free to delete the example, or disable and copy from it. |
| 23:30.06 | Vailreth | ok |
| 23:30.26 | JademusSreg | The Controller trigger demonstrates how to register each of those controls with the Operator. |
| 23:30.28 | Vailreth | Thank you for doing this i am sure it was a pain but i bet many people can benifit from it |
| 23:32.21 | JademusSreg | No problem. I probably didn't need to spend a day or two tearing apart the trigger XML structure, but it was informative. |
| 23:32.58 | JademusSreg | For those who are curious, that useless information is here: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Starcraft%202/GUI%20Structure.xml |
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| 23:34.00 | JademusSreg | The only useful thing I learned was the #CUSTOM macro, which enables my actions that add funcrefs to the Action and Operator arrays. |
| 23:34.18 | MoonEater | hm.. |
| 23:35.17 | MoonEater | seems like gibberish xml |
| 23:35.22 | Vailreth | well this is a pain i can only save that an unformated textfile |
| 23:35.36 | MoonEater | oh wait |
| 23:35.38 | MoonEater | no they dont |
| 23:36.12 | MoonEater | so these link triggers to the native fuctions |
| 23:36.14 | JademusSreg | Vail, I can assist. |
| 23:36.23 | MoonEater | and decribe them?!? |
| 23:36.46 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Starcraft%202/JadeLib%20TPS%20Demo.SC2Map |
| 23:36.51 | MoonEater | so how is this useful? |
| 23:37.00 | JademusSreg | Right click on the library in the trigger editor and export it from there. |
| 23:37.21 | JademusSreg | Moon, it's useful if you want to understand the capabilities of the trigger XML. |
| 23:37.44 | Vailreth | thanks again |
| 23:38.07 | MoonEater | well i doubt u can change much in here |
| 23:38.33 | MoonEater | the only thing possible of value is the id |
| 23:38.40 | MoonEater | which i assume links it to the function |
| 23:38.45 | JademusSreg | Moon, that's the element structure. |
| 23:39.51 | MoonEater | well i recongnize stuff in there from triggering it looks like a description of events the inputs and outputs and type property and what looks to be a reference number |
| 23:40.02 | MoonEater | which if u could change it might b of value |
| 23:53.17 | JademusSreg | Anyway, ActionQueueAdd is used when one wants to add a function to be called every update tick; for instance, Operator is added to the Action queue. OperatorAdd is used to call a function for each active player; obviously this would include the input-based control systems. |
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