| 00:02.16 | Deaod | "XAES – a more secure and advanced version of AES, ours goes up to 4096 bits, which is über-strong." |
| 00:02.47 | JademusSreg | "up to", haha |
| 00:06.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~repo@76.164.170.2) |
| 00:43.51 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kaelten (~Kaelten@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/WoWIFA/CurseStaff/kaelten) |
| 00:43.51 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+o Kaelten] by ChanServ |
| 00:46.07 | Ahli | was photon discs renamed to tron arena? |
| 00:58.40 | JademusSreg | Dunno. Is that a thing? |
| 00:59.07 | Kueken | don't be rude |
| 00:59.15 | Kueken | its a girl, obviously |
| 00:59.29 | Ahli | it looks like that's photon disc's name on EU now ^^ |
| 01:47.12 | *** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-092-073-207-240.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 02:45.35 | Lepton | is it possible to save a players bank when he leaves the game? |
| 02:45.44 | Lepton | im guessing it wont save since hes already gone |
| 03:05.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Egod (461eba16@gateway/web/freenode/ip.70.30.186.22) |
| 03:05.45 | Egod | i decided the day i will release my 2xMap |
| 03:05.54 | Egod | 09 September 2013 |
| 05:08.21 | Repo | New experimental map: Aerostrike - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/aerostrike/ |
| 05:25.55 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@12.249.77.178) |
| 05:26.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster shintah (bebble@h-243-195.a336.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 08:03.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@78.97.96.237) |
| 08:15.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (~Raziel@78.97.96.237) |
| 08:26.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (Bibendus@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it) |
| 08:39.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Blub\w (~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061) |
| 08:41.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster duckies (50e88a7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.232.138.126) |
| 09:03.21 | *** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-092-073-204-006.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 09:27.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Moorhsum^ (moorhsum@78-27-125-148.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 10:02.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-218.nowydwor.mm.pl) |
| 10:42.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster duckies (50e88a7e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.232.138.126) |
| 11:51.58 | Ahli | hmm, I think random unit from an empty unit group is screwing with sc2's performance. I made a change in my dungeon code and now it lags itself to death and closing sc2 properly won't happen |
| 11:52.17 | Ahli | it's not throwing errors either |
| 11:53.06 | A1win | "a change" could be anything ;p |
| 11:53.25 | A1win | never had problems with that function o: |
| 11:53.53 | Ahli | "number of units in unit group > 1" altered to "number of units in unit group >= 1 |
| 11:54.23 | A1win | still doesn't tell anything :x |
| 11:54.46 | A1win | maybe it results in a loop that takes a very long time/forever to execute? |
| 11:55.12 | Ahli | now I'm testing with a variable for the count rather than hoping that it breaks when unit == null |
| 11:55.37 | A1win | oh I misread, didn't notice you said "from empty unit group", but I still don't think that's an issue |
| 11:56.25 | Ahli | oh lol... the loop isn't removing the unit from the unit group >_> |
| 11:56.34 | A1win | if you kill a unit within that loop, it's still in that unit group until its death timer expires, and even if the death timer is 0, it remains in the unit group during that game frame |
| 11:56.39 | A1win | haha ;> |
| 11:57.03 | Ahli | :D |
| 12:06.04 | Ahli | ok, works fine with just removing the unit from the correct group ^^ |
| 12:10.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Hati1 (~Hati@trir-5d805931.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:24.22 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kueken (~Kueken@brsg-4dbbb1ef.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 12:48.23 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@12.249.77.178) |
| 12:57.50 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@12.249.77.178) |
| 13:06.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster MindWorX (~MindWorX@80-161-13-134-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 13:14.30 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@64.39.213.168) |
| 13:46.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@12.249.77.178) |
| 13:48.26 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tomura (~Tomura@p5B031A75.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:53.38 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@12.249.77.178) |
| 13:56.54 | *** join/#sc2mapster shintah (bebble@h-243-195.a336.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 13:58.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster Quaaad (~nevzets@ip51cc146b.speed.planet.nl) |
| 14:00.18 | *** join/#sc2mapster Thenarden (~Miranda@HSI-KBW-078-043-227-063.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 14:02.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster Telshin (~textual@76.164.170.2) |
| 14:02.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@64.39.213.168) |
| 14:50.18 | Dustin|Dev | Morning gentlemen |
| 15:09.15 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fate (~IceChat77@e178187217.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:28.18 | Vailreth | hello |
| 15:34.08 | Ahli | what does "Dev" mean? |
| 15:48.21 | Kueken | whats the context? |
| 15:48.58 | Kueken | usually it means "developer", creator/associate of the map |
| 15:49.33 | Dustin|Dev | I have two Boxes at work, my Support Desk and my Development desk, Im on my Development box atm |
| 15:49.36 | Kueken | but that seems kind of obvious, so you are probably referring to a different context? |
| 15:49.44 | Kueken | ah |
| 15:49.51 | Kueken | referring to Dustin |
| 15:49.52 | Kueken | :D |
| 15:49.55 | Dustin|Dev | :D |
| 15:49.55 | Kueken | nvm then |
| 15:50.06 | Kueken | didn't notice before |
| 15:56.42 | Ahli | ah ok |
| 15:56.58 | Vailreth | hmm |
| 17:06.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Renee (74e2e10f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.116.226.225.15) |
| 17:10.41 | JademusSreg | has been elaborating upon the demo map. |
| 17:13.26 | Dustin|Dev | Yay! |
| 17:20.29 | Renee | Any news about patch 2.1? |
| 17:23.09 | Dustin|Dev | Not that I've heard |
| 17:23.26 | JademusSreg | There's a patch 2.1? Last I heard about was 2.0.10. |
| 17:23.31 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~repo@76.164.170.2) |
| 17:24.36 | Renee | There must always be a patch 2.1. or the middle version number is useless :P |
| 17:24.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster P1ZEN (47fb37ad@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.251.55.173) |
| 17:24.50 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:25.30 | JademusSreg | I mean I've not heard so much as a hint of said patch. |
| 17:25.41 | Renee | of course |
| 17:26.00 | Renee | Anyway, we need a new patch to fix the test document command at least |
| 17:26.19 | Renee | also 2.0.10 do have many other bugs. |
| 17:29.21 | JademusSreg | Yes. The absurd wait time involved makes rapid iteration problematic. |
| 17:32.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@64.39.213.168) |
| 17:35.25 | Dustin|Dev | Bah, connection at work is super bad today, we got lightning damage last night and it's messing up our internet |
| 17:37.28 | *** join/#sc2mapster Kueken1 (~Kueken@brsg-d9bee3bd.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 17:45.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-218.nowydwor.mm.pl) |
| 17:46.20 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zandose (c654d26a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.84.210.106) |
| 17:46.25 | Zandose | hi |
| 17:53.08 | P1ZEN | derta 2, merh precious derta 2 invites |
| 17:53.12 | P1ZEN | nurhhhoooooo |
| 17:55.15 | Otixa | emerges and groans |
| 18:06.21 | Dustin|Dev | Wat |
| 18:11.11 | Zandose | can terrain deformers (actors) be destroyed and make the terrain deformation disappear? |
| 18:13.23 | A1win | yes |
| 18:14.24 | Zandose | tried to destroy it and the terrain deformation stayed there |
| 18:16.51 | JademusSreg | ActorOrphan > Destroy? |
| 18:16.53 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 18:17.24 | *** join/#sc2mapster RipperRoo (~RipperRoo@p57903407.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:21.05 | Zandose | ? |
| 18:21.14 | Zandose | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:21.54 | Otixa | fov = 2 * Math.atan( height / ( 2 * dist ) ) * ( 180 / Math.PI ); |
| 18:21.57 | Otixa | solve for distance |
| 18:24.48 | Deaod | height / (2 * tan(fov/2)) = dist |
| 18:25.17 | Deaod | wait, the rad to deg conversion is missing |
| 18:28.25 | Deaod | height / (2 * tan(fov * pi/360.)) = dist |
| 18:28.37 | Otixa | thanks ;> |
| 18:28.47 | Deaod | check it first, please |
| 18:29.02 | Deaod | make sure you get sensible values |
| 18:30.23 | Otixa | yeh, seems about right |
| 18:30.27 | Otixa | highfives Deaod |
| 18:32.50 | Ahli | zolden, check the flags of a terrain deformer |
| 18:33.21 | Ahli | I think there was something that controls that |
| 18:36.05 | Zandose | I aint Zolden lol |
| 18:36.15 | Zandose | but ok |
| 18:36.24 | Ahli | ohhhh |
| 18:36.34 | Ahli | sry :D |
| 18:36.40 | Zandose | i dont mind |
| 18:36.48 | Zandose | good joke to tell him later |
| 18:37.01 | Ahli | I think I should put on my glasses >_> |
| 19:22.34 | Otixa | gnarrrrrrr |
| 19:22.40 | Otixa | this is pissing me off |
| 19:23.06 | Otixa | Deaod, yer clever |
| 19:23.08 | Otixa | Halp! |
| 19:23.22 | Fate | since the patch it takes so much time testing the map -.- |
| 19:23.34 | Ahli | dont close sc2.exe |
| 19:24.11 | Otixa | Ahli, you too ;p |
| 19:24.17 | Otixa | smacks Ahli |
| 19:25.24 | Ahli | I'm not clever |
| 19:26.17 | *** join/#sc2mapster shintah| (bebble@5.150.243.195) |
| 19:27.00 | Fate | oh thats realy a bit faster |
| 19:27.09 | Otixa | So you have a camera at a point in 3D space, and you have a cube in another point in space. The camera has a variable aspect ratio. |
| 19:27.09 | Otixa | The goal is to calculate a way for the cube to always fit within the viewing frustrum of the camera given variable aspect ratios |
| 19:27.17 | Otixa | What I have so far: http://pastebin.com/RFSmF0bE |
| 19:27.31 | Otixa | Go go math people! @_@ |
| 19:27.47 | Ahli | I'm not a math person, yay :D |
| 19:28.48 | Otixa | >:[ |
| 19:29.25 | Otixa | Deaod, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2EA2nA2ar0 |
| 19:33.47 | Fate | if could understand your words i might be able to help u but i am not the good i engish |
| 19:49.57 | Dustin|Dev | Fate, L2English you noob! |
| 19:50.12 | Dustin|Dev | :D |
| 19:50.56 | Ahli | otixa just needs to show off his finest British English and fate needs to use google translate |
| 19:51.32 | Otixa | Tea an' crumpets, mate |
| 19:51.33 | Otixa | ;p |
| 19:51.37 | Fate | pff |
| 19:51.38 | Dustin|Dev | haha |
| 19:51.38 | Ahli | and then you need to decipher the mess google translated it to... |
| 19:51.48 | halides | smoke 'im some kippers |
| 20:04.32 | Lepton | is it possible to save a players bank when he leaves the game? |
| 20:04.34 | Lepton | im guessing it wont save since hes already gone |
| 20:04.51 | Ahli | when he leaves, yes... when he drops, no |
| 20:05.20 | Tomura | http://youtu.be/twBY6RDReoQ |
| 20:05.24 | Ahli | when you leave, you stay one game frame in the game for bank saving stuff... |
| 20:05.28 | Lepton | RLY? |
| 20:05.33 | Ahli | yes |
| 20:05.35 | Lepton | nice |
| 20:06.00 | Ahli | but you can just save the bank periodically (-> think about random intervals) or after changes |
| 20:06.11 | Lepton | ya |
| 20:06.15 | Ahli | in my diablo map I'm saving a player's bank every few seconds |
| 20:06.19 | Ahli | and when he leaves |
| 20:07.50 | Lepton | didnt know diablo had customs :P |
| 20:08.18 | Ahli | ? |
| 20:08.27 | Lepton | did they come up with innovative stuff in diablo 3 compared to sc2? |
| 20:08.33 | Lepton | regarding custom maps |
| 20:08.35 | Dustin|Dev | No |
| 20:08.39 | Dustin|Dev | He means his SC2 map |
| 20:08.44 | Lepton | ohh\ |
| 20:08.46 | Lepton | i see |
| 20:08.47 | Ahli | I created diablo in sc2...^^ |
| 20:08.47 | Dustin|Dev | Diablo 3 allows no mods, maps anytthing |
| 20:08.54 | Dustin|Dev | It's just grinding with horrible economy |
| 20:09.01 | Lepton | so its like a copy of diablo ? |
| 20:09.12 | Dustin|Dev | Worse than D2 in my opinion |
| 20:09.15 | Lepton | doesnt blizz not like whenppl do that? |
| 20:09.23 | Dustin|Dev | They love Ahli |
| 20:09.31 | Lepton | nice |
| 20:09.37 | Dustin|Dev | I meant D3, not Ahli's map is worse than D2 |
| 20:10.05 | Lepton | ill try it when i get the time |
| 20:10.07 | Lepton | is it on na? |
| 20:10.20 | Dustin|Dev | Ya, Dia blo mortal shroud or something |
| 20:11.51 | Ahli | f*ck me... a bug where the player spawns outside the dungeon boundaries :X |
| 20:16.47 | Lepton | happens to the best of us |
| 20:18.01 | Ahli | I'm about to experience that myself (I hope... thank god for the random seed setting) |
| 20:19.31 | Dustin|Dev | Just pathing block fill everything outside the dungeon ;) |
| 20:21.05 | Ahli | ok the problem is that the dungeon didn't create stairs for some reason |
| 20:21.34 | Ahli | and something screws with my harddisc pretty hard right now |
| 20:22.21 | Ahli | "System", what it is doing... :X |
| 20:22.29 | Ahli | *is it |
| 20:27.37 | Ahli | ok, it's a bug that I added today with my other fix... deleted a line and fixed... :X |
| 20:32.03 | Dustin|Dev | Lol i hate when bug fixes make more bugs |
| 20:35.14 | Ahli | I failed to remove one line of my temporary code :X |
| 20:36.40 | Ahli | then the variable had a value greater zero and in the later stage of the dungeon creation, it was used to count doodads and stairs... |
| 20:40.08 | *** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (836baeee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.174.238) |
| 20:42.25 | Vailreth | hello |
| 20:46.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-218.nowydwor.mm.pl) |
| 20:53.52 | *** join/#sc2mapster CloudWolf (502b326c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.80.43.50.108) |
| 20:53.54 | CloudWolf | bonjourno! ;P |
| 20:54.00 | Vailreth | hello |
| 20:54.10 | CloudWolf | how is everyone this fine evening? :P |
| 20:54.26 | Vailreth | working on a homeless heros mod |
| 20:54.36 | CloudWolf | sweet :) any screenies? |
| 20:54.40 | Vailreth | i say homeless because they have no game call home |
| 20:55.02 | Vailreth | no i am to soon into development but i do have some concepts |
| 20:55.08 | Vailreth | to call* |
| 20:55.31 | Ahli | Does publish to multiple regions work for anyone with a map having dependency to your own mods? |
| 20:56.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@64.39.213.168) |
| 20:56.39 | Ahli | publish window and the multi-publish progress window are all failing to retrieve the header files... |
| 20:56.51 | Vailreth | i have the Tech Artificer who by collecting resorces from slain enemies can produce powerups for health and enegery and temporary buffs. as well he can create turrets mines and a support tower |
| 20:57.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (d55786a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.87.134.162) |
| 20:57.55 | Ahli | build stuff out of random things found on enemies? macGyverCraft? |
| 20:58.42 | Zolden | greetings gentle mapmakermen |
| 20:58.48 | Vailreth | well thats just one of the hero concepts |
| 21:00.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fate (~IceChat77@e178187217.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:03.06 | Dustin|Dev | Bah, Bitshifting is a pain in the ass to learn |
| 21:03.19 | Ahli | << and >> ? |
| 21:03.53 | Zolden | Dustin|Dev: in galaxy? |
| 21:04.05 | Dustin|Dev | Python |
| 21:04.32 | Ahli | I think I've never seen python code :o |
| 21:04.50 | Dustin|Dev | https://github.com/DustinHendrickson/LED_Matrix/blob/master/class_LED_Matrix.py |
| 21:04.52 | Dustin|Dev | Now you have! |
| 21:04.52 | Deaod | bitshifting is still << and >> in python |
| 21:05.03 | Dustin|Dev | I understand that those are Bitwise Operators |
| 21:05.11 | Dustin|Dev | It's the logic behind bitshifting that Im trying to comprehend |
| 21:05.14 | Ahli | a python killed 2 sleeping boys in canade |
| 21:05.18 | Ahli | *canada |
| 21:06.15 | Deaod | think of it as shorthands for x * 2 (<<) and Floor(x / 2) (>>) |
| 21:06.26 | Zolden | there are pythons in canada? i thought they are tropical creatures |
| 21:06.51 | Deaod | where x is an integer |
| 21:07.36 | Deaod | these equivalencies dont always hold true, but for simple cases (non-negative integers) its mostly accurate |
| 21:14.09 | *** join/#sc2mapster Dustin|Dev (~Dustin@64.39.213.168) |
| 21:27.16 | *** join/#sc2mapster Antenae (antenae@ctv-79-132-170-18.vinita.lt) |
| 21:28.14 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (d55786a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.87.134.162) |
| 21:31.03 | *** join/#sc2mapster Statharas (~chatzilla@ppp-94-68-87-153.home.otenet.gr) |
| 21:31.31 | Statharas | Would help a lot if people who have a Hiveworkshop account voted on this poll: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/modifications-development-presentation-664/starcraft-resource-poll-238969/ |
| 21:35.46 | Dustin|Dev | Depends on the situation and asset. If it's some sort of themed compilation, mods yes, if it's individual models, then raw assets |
| 21:36.02 | Dustin|Dev | I don't want to load 20 mods each for a seperate unit model |
| 21:45.29 | Statharas | Dustin, how about mods containing a model with a skin, special actor configurations, etc? |
| 21:46.14 | CloudWolf | if anyone is in need of a website for their project, I'd recommend checking this out :) http://www.engamer.net/ |
| 21:48.59 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (d55786a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.87.134.162) |
| 21:49.12 | Dustin|Dev | Statharas, That might be alright, as long as there's some meat to the mod. But I think there's a mod limit isn't there? |
| 21:49.52 | Statharas | Exactly. |
| 21:49.59 | Statharas | Well |
| 21:50.02 | Statharas | I doubt it |
| 21:50.23 | Statharas | That's why we're encouraging users to pack units into huge mods and have them online |
| 21:50.36 | Statharas | Let's say someone has 20 models on the hive |
| 21:50.41 | Statharas | on different mods |
| 21:50.54 | Statharas | We'd encourage him to put them in a single mod online |
| 21:53.34 | Dustin|Dev | I'd just make sure everything was themed for the mods so you don't get into a case where a user wants to use like 1 model out of the mod and not have to have the users download the whole mod dependency for it. |
| 21:53.52 | Statharas | Well, why not |
| 21:53.59 | Statharas | Even one model is fine |
| 21:54.11 | Dustin|Dev | Im saying like |
| 21:54.17 | Statharas | a 40MB mod for a model is fine, you kno |
| 21:54.18 | Statharas | know* |
| 21:54.26 | Dustin|Dev | Whaa |
| 21:54.32 | Dustin|Dev | Not if you have a ton of mods |
| 21:54.32 | Statharas | because that 40MB mod won't have to be downloaded again for another map |
| 21:54.39 | Statharas | Take for example my Zombie Zealot |
| 21:54.46 | Statharas | Zerglot |
| 21:54.55 | Statharas | If I pack it up with 10 other models |
| 21:55.04 | Statharas | And people use it a lot |
| 21:55.39 | Statharas | People won't have to redownload stuff if a new map uses one of those models |
| 21:55.51 | Statharas | It's much wiser to pack them all in one mod |
| 21:56.01 | Dustin|Dev | Yeah if you're wanting all the models |
| 21:56.02 | Statharas | Of course, the downside is updating |
| 21:56.13 | Tomura | but you'd be dependent on the guy that made the mod |
| 21:56.47 | Dustin|Dev | But say you have a mod with 20 models that's like 40 meg or something. ANd I just want that one model or 2, And lets say there's like 5 mod packs that I do the same for, that's a lot of initial downloads for users |
| 21:57.00 | Statharas | Initial. |
| 21:57.03 | Dustin|Dev | Ya |
| 21:57.10 | Statharas | Other maps would have them downloaded already |
| 21:57.14 | Ahli | tomura, if you don't update the dependency version, it won't change and the file will always be on the server |
| 21:57.24 | Dustin|Dev | You don't want a guy who is just trying your map to never play it again because the load time was tooo long |
| 21:57.55 | Statharas | I don't think the load time is affected by mods |
| 21:58.14 | Statharas | Rather, Sc2 is coded well enough to avoid useless data |
| 21:58.31 | Statharas | Not to mention how a few megabytes wouldn't affect the load time at all |
| 21:58.39 | Statharas | Seeing as how this is 2013, not 2003. |
| 21:58.47 | Statharas | Warcraft 3 was a whole different matter |
| 21:59.06 | Statharas | A megabyte would take half a minute to load up |
| 21:59.14 | Statharas | In Starcraft 2, a megabyte is nothing |
| 21:59.49 | Dustin|Dev | Im saying it can get sticky fast |
| 21:59.51 | Ahli | if you have a megabyte of entries in the data editor, it would affect it... |
| 22:00.09 | Dustin|Dev | You'll jsut have to be carefull about your packing up and what models are included etc |
| 22:00.11 | Zolden | modellers also should use sc2 textures for texturing to save 90% of model size |
| 22:00.18 | Ahli | just like adding a new default dependency to your map lengthens the loading time |
| 22:00.59 | Statharas | Data editor != assets |
| 22:21.33 | *** join/#sc2mapster shintah (bebble@h-243-195.a336.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 22:25.41 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (d55786a2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.87.134.162) |
| 22:31.21 | Ahli | when has transparency per dialog been added? |
| 22:34.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster zeldarules28 (ad37ed2a@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.55.237.42) |
| 22:34.52 | Zolden | never? |
| 22:35.23 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.10 | Ahli | but it has no fade time |
| 22:37.08 | DeadZergling | time for a create thread with lots of waits and intermediate transparencies1 |
| 22:39.07 | Ahli | ^^ |
| 22:39.40 | A1win | use fade dialog item instead |
| 22:40.09 | A1win | put all dialog items inside one panel that's the size of the dialog |
| 22:40.12 | A1win | and fade the panel |
| 22:40.39 | Ahli | I'm thinking if I need fade... I can't move it from one position of the screen to another position smoothly due to different anchors |
| 22:41.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster gooose (5489e9df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.137.233.223) |
| 22:41.27 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:41.45 | Ahli | Reading tomes creates a centered dialog with image and text. So, a minimizing animation isn't possible to the bottom right corner of the screen where the button will be |
| 22:41.56 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:42.40 | Dustin | Convert legacy has always sucked |
| 22:43.36 | Ahli | converted a scbw ums map during sc2 beta... laughed at the outcome and closed it to never use it again |
| 22:43.39 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.52 | Dustin | I did the same Ahli lol |
| 22:48.09 | Zolden | i'd like to convert a sc3 map from the future and play it b4 everyone |
| 22:49.25 | A1win | just figure out the pattern how SC2 maps would look when converted to SC1 and then make the same error backwards |
| 22:50.45 | A1win | sc1 <- [conversion error] <- sc2 <- [same conversion error] <- sc3, that's how it works |
| 22:53.03 | Zolden | from sc1 it can downconverted to the lost vikings |
| 23:02.49 | *** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-244-218.nowydwor.mm.pl) |
| 23:06.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~repo@76.164.170.2) |
| 23:10.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (d55788b5@gateway/web/freenode/ip.213.87.136.181) |
| 23:17.48 | *** join/#sc2mapster gooose (5489e9df@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.137.233.223) |
| 23:17.50 | gooose | is there a way to enlarge terrain? |
| 23:18.08 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.13 | Dustin | Viagra |
| 23:18.22 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.38 | Dustin | Nope |
| 23:18.54 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.56 | Dustin | It's not a model you can just scale :P |
| 23:18.58 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:19.29 | Zolden | enlarge terrainis? |
| 23:19.48 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.00 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.13 | Zolden | it would be possible if they had fixed terrain modifiers |
| 23:21.57 | Zolden | a script would read terrain, scale and print it back, but with artificial cliffs |
| 23:25.20 | Fate | Id like this topic to be discussed http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/9499700134 |
| 23:27.16 | Zolden | you hope disucssion will increase chances of the suggestion to be considered by blizz guys? |
| 23:28.35 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:29.47 | Dustin | We got hero mechanics because of Blizzard Allstars |
| 23:29.53 | Dustin | :P |
| 23:30.40 | A1win | tenarsis said they have "plans within plans" when I asked him if there were any plans to improve the lobby |
| 23:30.50 | A1win | I'd guess they'll just do some major update to it later and ignore it until then |
| 23:30.50 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.04 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.33 | zeldarules28 | Hey, I've got a little technical issue here....can somebody confirm that I'm not crazy? |
| 23:33.47 | zeldarules28 | also hi, I forgot to say that when I logged in :P |
| 23:35.01 | DeadZergling | confirm that ZR is NOT crazy? |
| 23:35.01 | DeadZergling | that might be a tough one, even for us |
| 23:35.07 | Ahli | plans within plans... sounds sneaky |
| 23:35.07 | Zolden | zeldarules28: one of the issues that make you think that you are crazy? |
| 23:35.18 | zeldarules28 | I know |
| 23:35.20 | zeldarules28 | Okay, so heres the dealio |
| 23:35.34 | zeldarules28 | I've got a loop. For each int x, 1 to 10, with increment 1. |
| 23:35.40 | zeldarules28 | The loop has nothing in it, its just a loop |
| 23:35.45 | zeldarules28 | At the end of the loop, x is 11 |
| 23:35.48 | zeldarules28 | Is that normal? |
| 23:35.53 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:35.59 | zeldarules28 | *gasp* |
| 23:36.00 | zeldarules28 | Since when? |
| 23:36.06 | Ahli | was changed in a patch I believe |
| 23:36.13 | zeldarules28 | Was it this last patch? |
| 23:36.15 | Ahli | I noticed that myself yesterday ;D |
| 23:36.20 | zeldarules28 | Because like half of starmon broke after this patch |
| 23:36.24 | Ahli | I think so |
| 23:36.25 | Zolden | int need to become 11 to end the loop, if it's 10, it loops one more time |
| 23:36.27 | zeldarules28 | >.> |
| 23:36.35 | Ahli | but maybe it was waaaaay earlier |
| 23:36.39 | zeldarules28 | No, it definitly has not been that way forever |
| 23:36.50 | gooose | ha! so my apporach using while any manually incrementing was better :) |
| 23:36.51 | zeldarules28 | right? |
| 23:37.06 | zeldarules28 | Thats why I was asking....Somebody else remembers it being the "old" way right? *tears up* |
| 23:37.10 | DeadZergling | makes me glad I use while loops only, lol |
| 23:37.12 | Ahli | for each with a number is now more like a for in java... |
| 23:37.20 | Zolden | use while instead of for |
| 23:37.38 | zeldarules28 | Right |
| 23:37.42 | zeldarules28 | Except I already made the map |
| 23:37.44 | zeldarules28 | Thus my problem |
| 23:37.46 | zeldarules28 | >.> |
| 23:38.02 | Zolden | delete the map, remake |
| 23:38.04 | Ahli | you could ask them to set the value to the end value, when finished iterating... |
| 23:38.14 | zeldarules28 | Yea, thats what Im doing now |
| 23:38.17 | zeldarules28 | Just wanted to check here |
| 23:38.52 | Ahli | but I'm quite sure that it was changed with the recent patch |
| 23:38.54 | zeldarules28 | Ahh, deletarius, where are you |
| 23:39.16 | Ahli | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 23:39.19 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 7d 23h 33m 6s ago, saying: 'I would just copy/paste a mineral/gas setup from an existing ladder map and using those'. |
| 23:39.29 | zeldarules28 | ahh |
| 23:39.33 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:39.40 | zeldarules28 | no |
| 23:39.54 | zeldarules28 | It just sets it to 11 after it's finished, the final iteration of the loop x is still at 10 |
| 23:39.56 | gooose | ~purl is back |
| 23:40.04 | zeldarules28 | This is a blank map, too, it's not like I changed something >.> |
| 23:40.12 | Ahli | if you make a thread, link it. I would like to post into it, too, to confirm that there was a change with these loops |
| 23:41.18 | Ahli | they told us once that they tried to maintain compatibility with old stuff... so, making that change would support that intention. |
| 23:41.24 | Zolden | r u talking about gui stuff? can we see galaxy code to see what exactly changed and why it ends with 11? |
| 23:42.09 | Ahli | zolden, most likely that is possible... find an old map with a "for each integer" |
| 23:43.05 | Zolden | i'm gone, no editor around |
| 23:44.52 | Ahli | and I'm too lazy to compare it in my diablo map... |
| 23:45.13 | zeldarules28 | hmm |
| 23:45.30 | zeldarules28 | Wait, can you get an old version of a map? The patch would just change the way its compiled, no? |
| 23:46.55 | Ahli | aren't you making backups of your maps? |
| 23:47.45 | zeldarules28 | Right |
| 23:47.46 | zeldarules28 | We are |
| 23:48.02 | zeldarules28 | But the patch would have changed the way the sc2 editor compiles the code, right? |
| 23:48.14 | zeldarules28 | It's not like the triggers changed, it's just reading them differently |
| 23:48.19 | Ahli | opens diablo map's backup file from 25th September 2010 :D |
| 23:48.31 | Ahli | hmm true true |
| 23:48.47 | Ahli | that would only screw maintained maps, which is fine |
| 23:49.13 | Ahli | so, there is no real problem... the only problem is that we weren't informed about that change |
| 23:50.06 | Ahli | oh god, I'm playing my oldest backup now :D |
| 23:53.54 | zeldarules28 | The problem is there isn't an easy way to change this |
| 23:54.04 | zeldarules28 | Not when you've got hundreds of loops in the map |
| 23:56.56 | Ahli | true |
| 23:58.05 | zeldarules28 | Shabam- http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/9572599026#1 |
| 23:58.16 | zeldarules28 | Lemme know if you see any problems or typos |