| 00:00.12 | A1win | anyway I turned this into deathmatch and removed the loot stuff, though now there are health kits that can be picked up |
| 00:00.21 | A1win | the hospital planets also heal while sitting there but veery slowly |
| 00:00.38 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 00:03.34 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a37/SC2%202013-07-18%2003-02-44-88.jpg |
| 00:05.39 | nooblark | jade i've been on stack exchange all day. i've learned so much but i can't find a direct answer to what i'm doing |
| 00:05.44 | nooblark | perhaps i can pm you? |
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| 00:07.09 | JademusSreg | I've gotta go, actually, haha. |
| 00:07.23 | JademusSreg | bbl, feel free to leave messages |
| 00:09.30 | DeadZergling | good a1win, now just need a circular border for your planet type indicators |
| 00:09.38 | DeadZergling | it looks all wrong as a square |
| 00:09.44 | A1win | mm |
| 00:09.56 | A1win | just placeholders ;p |
| 00:11.24 | Otixa | DeadZergling, yeah. Watching TV with gf |
| 00:11.29 | Otixa | I'll be back in an hour or so |
| 00:12.39 | NuZalem | Ah..dinner was delicious |
| 00:12.51 | NuZalem | Grilled flounder/steamed broccoli |
| 00:13.07 | NuZalem | Good ol food made by Terrans...kills Zerglings. |
| 00:13.18 | NuZalem | Or does it? |
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| 00:15.24 | DeadZergling | pretty sure it doesn't |
| 00:15.40 | DeadZergling | they live via purple gelatinous crap all day |
| 00:15.55 | DeadZergling | which is probably expulsed as MORE purple gelatinous crap |
| 00:16.14 | DeadZergling | that tops flounder and broccoli |
| 00:17.26 | A1win | damn fraps, I changed record hotkey to F5 and then alt-tabbed out, it replaced the hotkey to alt-tab <.< |
| 00:17.40 | Dustin | lol A1win that's funny |
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| 00:43.34 | MoonEater916 | HONEY IM HOME!!! |
| 00:44.15 | DeadZergling | irc is your gf? |
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| 00:45.33 | A1win | took a video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRgIxYrcgl8 |
| 00:46.21 | MoonEater916 | no |
| 00:46.28 | MoonEater916 | u r, dead zergling |
| 00:46.47 | DeadZergling | okay, how come you never let me go shopping? |
| 00:46.48 | DeadZergling | jerk |
| 00:48.14 | MoonEater916 | Because all u every buy it HOTS and we have plenty of those |
| 00:48.51 | MoonEater916 | A1win ur gravity seems abit off doesnt seems like gravity is conflicting with eachother |
| 00:49.02 | A1win | hmm? |
| 00:49.17 | DeadZergling | fine, this time we can go lingerie shopping, for you |
| 00:49.36 | DeadZergling | your old bra looks terrible anyways |
| 00:49.47 | A1win | what do you mean not conflicting with each other? |
| 00:50.37 | MoonEater916 | doesnt seem like other planets r really pulling u offcourse |
| 00:50.44 | MoonEater916 | just a single one |
| 00:50.46 | A1win | they are |
| 00:51.02 | MoonEater916 | well maybe its not apparent and ur compensating soo well |
| 00:51.07 | A1win | gravity gets weaker the further you go ;p |
| 00:51.24 | A1win | it's a realistic gravity model |
| 00:51.36 | MoonEater916 | i understand that |
| 00:51.46 | Dustin | Once you play it MoonEater916 youll understand, it feels pretty nice |
| 00:51.50 | MoonEater916 | but gravity has a very long pull |
| 00:51.54 | MoonEater916 | im sure |
| 00:51.57 | A1win | sure it does |
| 00:51.59 | MoonEater916 | im only asking |
| 00:52.04 | A1win | the whole galaxy is pulling you all the time |
| 00:52.17 | MoonEater916 | thats awsome |
| 00:52.32 | DeadZergling | I'm feeling unappreciated mooneater! |
| 00:52.57 | A1win | the gravity isn't very strong either, it used to be but it was very difficult to control the ship then |
| 00:54.06 | MoonEater916 | ill have 2 test it |
| 00:54.16 | MoonEater916 | when u get on the bus? as they r saying |
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| 00:55.25 | Frinckles | Hello~ |
| 00:55.54 | MoonEater916 | hello! |
| 00:56.10 | Frinckles | How are you? |
| 00:56.17 | Frinckles | Haha, found out where everyone is hiding. :P |
| 00:56.49 | MoonEater916 | wasnt a secret? |
| 00:56.54 | MoonEater916 | well unless we hate uu |
| 00:56.57 | MoonEater916 | in which case |
| 00:57.00 | MoonEater916 | no one is here |
| 00:57.04 | DeadZergling | starting to think you hate me Moon :P |
| 00:57.14 | DeadZergling | can see why your gf yells at you, way you ignoring me |
| 00:58.28 | MoonEater916 | i joke around too much, comes off as hate but i atually like u alot and a1win |
| 00:58.52 | MoonEater916 | no lie or joke |
| 00:59.09 | DeadZergling | yea anyways, I'm done w/ my gf talk for now |
| 00:59.14 | DeadZergling | before I start to like it or something |
| 00:59.34 | Bounty | That would make a very fun pvp game A1win |
| 00:59.47 | A1win | Bounty, it is |
| 00:59.57 | Bounty | First thing i picture when watching that is shooting a projectile just right so that it wraps around a planet and hits someone on the other side |
| 00:59.57 | A1win | FFA deathmatch |
| 00:59.59 | Dustin | ya its super fun |
| 01:00.07 | Dustin | A1win, lets get a bunch of people to play it! |
| 01:00.09 | Bounty | Is that possible? |
| 01:00.15 | MoonEater916 | is there some sort of size limit to how big a leaderboard text item can be? |
| 01:00.37 | A1win | Bounty, the gravity is kinda weak, it can happen at the edge of the galaxy though |
| 01:00.58 | Bounty | ah |
| 01:01.02 | MoonEater916 | A1win, maybe make gravity stronger on projectiles |
| 01:01.14 | A1win | that would be weird ;p |
| 01:01.36 | MoonEater916 | A1win, i bet it would make the projectile feel lighter thats all |
| 01:02.09 | A1win | though one thing I was thinking of is having "antigravity thrusters" that partially counter the gravity force when used in addition to thrusting forward |
| 01:02.09 | MoonEater916 | even though |
| 01:02.14 | MoonEater916 | that goes against gravity |
| 01:02.18 | A1win | :P |
| 01:02.38 | A1win | yeah the weight of the object doesn't make a difference on how fast the planet pulls it |
| 01:03.11 | MoonEater916 | but alot of people probably wont figure that not not everyone like us had to do integrals for physics |
| 01:03.23 | A1win | heh |
| 01:03.40 | A1win | I suck at physics, gravity is pretty simple |
| 01:03.49 | DeadZergling | gravity on projectiles |
| 01:03.55 | DeadZergling | seemed pretty damn strong as it is |
| 01:04.05 | MoonEater916 | well |
| 01:04.11 | MoonEater916 | it will loop around plannets more |
| 01:04.17 | MoonEater916 | it would become more like gunbound |
| 01:04.57 | A1win | I'll keep adjusting it |
| 01:05.03 | Bounty | You should definently make more use of the gravity mechanic considering its really the only thing that would set that game apart from just a straight 2D shooter |
| 01:05.11 | A1win | hehe |
| 01:05.16 | MoonEater916 | A1win, why dont u let players adjust it before the game starts |
| 01:05.18 | Bounty | I like it though |
| 01:05.21 | MoonEater916 | atleast durring testings |
| 01:05.31 | Bounty | I would never put that power in the players hand lol |
| 01:05.35 | MoonEater916 | untill u get a concesus or if there isnt one leave it a vote |
| 01:05.37 | A1win | maybe it'll be fine if I just increase thruster strength and increase gravity |
| 01:05.44 | Bounty | Seems to be that the gravity is something that should be perfected |
| 01:05.47 | Bounty | and never adjusted again |
| 01:05.50 | MoonEater916 | Bounty, just at ther beginning of the game |
| 01:06.00 | A1win | MoonEater916, or I can just do it myself :P |
| 01:06.07 | A1win | takes a minute to republish it |
| 01:06.30 | MoonEater916 | well u r the dev im meerly just yapping |
| 01:06.42 | MoonEater916 | i feel chatty today |
| 01:07.38 | A1win | yeah this is pretty neat, I increased gravity and increased thruster strength |
| 01:07.47 | A1win | still easy to control the ship and projectiles curve more |
| 01:07.57 | Dustin | nice! |
| 01:08.03 | Bounty | I wish i had something fun to work on |
| 01:08.04 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:08.08 | MoonEater916 | +1 A1win |
| 01:08.19 | MoonEater916 | go work on the huanted forest some more |
| 01:08.29 | MoonEater916 | u could realy improve that game |
| 01:08.47 | Bounty | i did improve it, just nobody saw it |
| 01:08.56 | Bounty | only JademusSreg saw what i had planned |
| 01:08.56 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:08.56 | MoonEater916 | i havnt played it in a bit |
| 01:09.10 | MoonEater916 | ill take a look |
| 01:15.58 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a37/SC2%202013-07-18%2004-15-10-23.jpg |
| 01:16.16 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a37/SC2%202013-07-18%2004-15-11-37.jpg |
| 01:19.02 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a37/SC2%202013-07-18%2004-18-21-98.jpg |
| 01:19.07 | A1win | yeah that's better ;p |
| 01:19.12 | MoonEater916 | XD |
| 01:19.24 | MoonEater916 | deffinatly keeps players moving |
| 01:19.37 | MoonEater916 | maybe u should let players deploy themselves on a planet |
| 01:19.39 | MoonEater916 | like a tank |
| 01:19.42 | MoonEater916 | cant move |
| 01:19.47 | MoonEater916 | but improved firepower |
| 01:19.53 | A1win | mm dunno how fun that would be |
| 01:19.57 | A1win | but I'll consider it |
| 01:20.03 | MoonEater916 | u would do that |
| 01:20.06 | MoonEater916 | if |
| 01:20.09 | MoonEater916 | u had fog of war |
| 01:20.15 | MoonEater916 | it would be an anbush thing |
| 01:20.17 | A1win | that would be horrible :P |
| 01:20.38 | DeadZergling | be amusing if deploying let you spin the planet around |
| 01:20.40 | DeadZergling | when firing |
| 01:20.50 | MoonEater916 | thats probably too much |
| 01:20.54 | A1win | heh |
| 01:21.04 | MoonEater916 | just on a far side |
| 01:21.06 | MoonEater916 | with fog |
| 01:21.12 | MoonEater916 | dude zips by |
| 01:21.14 | MoonEater916 | BAM! |
| 01:21.23 | MoonEater916 | like jade |
| 01:21.36 | MoonEater916 | u know how u always want to hit him when he goes "Zoop." |
| 01:21.38 | A1win | I could make weapons that charge up while you sit on a planet |
| 01:21.39 | MoonEater916 | like that |
| 01:21.51 | A1win | but not sure if I want to promote sitting on planets |
| 01:22.06 | MoonEater916 | like i said promote ambushing |
| 01:22.07 | MoonEater916 | XD |
| 01:22.21 | MoonEater916 | or |
| 01:22.28 | MoonEater916 | slow recovery while on planets |
| 01:22.36 | A1win | I definitely want weapons that let you deploy units that walk on a planet's surface and shoot at ships that fly by |
| 01:23.15 | MoonEater916 | hows good is the gravity for weapons |
| 01:23.24 | A1win | though probably just with lasers, would be horrible to try code an AI that accounts for the gravity when aiming |
| 01:23.26 | MoonEater916 | u may want to make disallow planet walk |
| 01:23.32 | MoonEater916 | make them shoot around the planet |
| 01:23.38 | MoonEater916 | using gravity |
| 01:23.41 | A1win | mmf? |
| 01:23.55 | A1win | "them"? |
| 01:24.05 | MoonEater916 | whoever is deploying |
| 01:24.18 | MoonEater916 | force them to rely on precision aiming |
| 01:24.28 | MoonEater916 | with gravity |
| 01:24.50 | MoonEater916 | if u get it right i bet u could shoot one of those blue things across the map |
| 01:25.20 | A1win | not easy to see where it lands though ;p |
| 01:25.49 | A1win | and I don't want to turn this into an artillery game :P |
| 01:26.04 | A1win | at least not too much of one |
| 01:26.32 | MoonEater916 | well maybe not this game |
| 01:26.39 | MoonEater916 | but i see a gunbound remake in ur future |
| 01:26.51 | A1win | I don't remake games |
| 01:27.00 | A1win | that other people have made |
| 01:27.24 | Dustin | hehe I toyed with a Worms/Gunbound type map |
| 01:27.36 | Dustin | Couldnt get the terrain deformation to work right so I quick |
| 01:27.38 | Dustin | quit* |
| 01:27.44 | MoonEater916 | A1win its a outside game, not sure if that counts |
| 01:27.50 | MoonEater916 | lol |
| 01:27.51 | MoonEater916 | ya |
| 01:28.08 | MoonEater916 | u couldnt do it like gunbound drops |
| 01:28.14 | MoonEater916 | u have to do strickly hp |
| 01:28.19 | MoonEater916 | or |
| 01:28.26 | A1win | I haven't played gunbound |
| 01:28.27 | MoonEater916 | borrow a concept from warships |
| 01:29.03 | MoonEater916 | A1win, its just a artilery game done fancy |
| 01:29.15 | A1win | oh yeah next weapon I make should be explosive so that I can finally implement explosion with pushing forces |
| 01:29.30 | A1win | *explosions |
| 01:30.07 | MoonEater916 | lol |
| 01:30.10 | MoonEater916 | planet crack |
| 01:32.19 | Dustin | fucking text actors |
| 01:33.19 | JademusSreg | Zooop. |
| 01:35.47 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a37/SC2%202013-07-18%2004-34-52-00.jpg |
| 01:35.48 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a37/SC2%202013-07-18%2004-34-55-66.jpg |
| 01:35.57 | Dustin | Oh wow, im using a data reference for a tooltip/text actor. and the tooltip will display the owners upgraded amount if i dont have anything selected, but if I have a unit i own selected and hover over it, it displays my data reference amount |
| 01:35.58 | A1win | dem curves |
| 01:37.08 | DeadZergling | yep, fun stuff huh? |
| 01:37.27 | DeadZergling | I know your pain Dustin |
| 01:38.05 | Dustin | It makes sense once you think about it, Im just gonna make the upgrade for everyone I guess |
| 01:39.40 | DeadZergling | my solution is to only use dref fields for text you only see when you have that unit selected |
| 01:39.43 | MoonEater916 | A1win, thats the shit |
| 01:40.21 | DeadZergling | makes me think of space buses |
| 01:41.42 | JademusSreg | A1, that's more indicative of their purpose. =D |
| 01:42.25 | A1win | what is? D: |
| 01:47.00 | JademusSreg | The icons on the planets. Not the most pleasant visual, but definitely communicates its purpose. |
| 01:47.15 | A1win | yeah just placeholders |
| 01:48.30 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:48.54 | A1win | I just puked them into the code without any variable references to them :X |
| 01:49.46 | JademusSreg | Ah, yes, the dirty prototyping approach. I know it well. |
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| 01:54.33 | A1win | mmh would be nice to have at least one more special planet type |
| 01:58.49 | JademusSreg | A hostile planet that slowly shoots slow moving, large damage projectiles. A white hole that exerts antigravity. A phantom planet that phases in and out of existence. |
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| 02:02.55 | DeadZergling | You back yet Otixa? |
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| 02:09.47 | JademusSreg | An egg planet that hatches a cosmic dragon. A planet that swap places with other planets. |
| 02:10.04 | A1win | :P |
| 02:10.32 | JademusSreg | A planet that grows as it takes impacts from projectiles, and shrinks when other ships bounce/launched forcefully away. |
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| 02:16.44 | Dustin | haha that sounds cool |
| 02:17.05 | Dustin | I like the phasing planet idea the best |
| 02:17.09 | Dustin | Would change shit up |
| 02:26.38 | JademusSreg | Caustic gas giant that deals damage as a ship sinks into its atmosphere. A star that kills ships and throws off flares. A small binary planetary system that perpetually spins, another bouncer. Asteroid cluster that blocks projectiles and deals minor damage to ships passing through it. A bouncy derelict ship (yeah, not a planet, but could be amusing). |
| 02:28.53 | Mongoose | hello |
| 02:29.17 | Mongoose | would any possible be able tell me how to rotate doodads |
| 02:29.40 | A1win | ctrl-click while it's selected in terrain editor |
| 02:30.16 | Mongoose | nope |
| 02:30.21 | Mongoose | try that |
| 02:30.24 | Mongoose | enter |
| 02:31.11 | A1win | some doodads can't be rotated at all, not sure where that is defined |
| 02:31.42 | A1win | footprints can't be rotated, so if it's not a symmetric footprint, its rotation is probably disabled |
| 02:31.45 | DeadZergling | guess shark week has ended for Otixa |
| 02:31.47 | Mongoose | ah that could be it |
| 02:31.52 | DeadZergling | oh well, maybe he will be on later |
| 02:32.14 | Mongoose | currently trying to rotate chainlink fences |
| 02:32.58 | JademusSreg | Should still be able to rotate. |
| 02:33.23 | A1win | maybe if you turn on ignore placement for it |
| 02:33.30 | JademusSreg | The footprints will only rotate cardinally. |
| 02:33.45 | Mongoose | where do turn that on at? |
| 02:33.58 | A1win | select it and press enter, should be a flag there |
| 02:34.18 | A1win | ahh hmm |
| 02:34.24 | A1win | maybe you can use Edit - Rotate then |
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| 02:34.45 | A1win | numpad * and / are default hotkeys |
| 02:34.50 | Mongoose | no rotate and flip are grayed out in edit |
| 02:35.11 | Mongoose | * and / dont work already tried that |
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| 02:42.11 | Mongoose | nope none of that has worked A1win |
| 02:42.20 | A1win | anyway those planet ideas could be something to think about later down the road, I was thinking of something more basic for now as a third special planet in addition to the hospital planet and the armory planet |
| 02:42.40 | A1win | Mongoose, dunno then, take a look at the doodad's actor and see if there's something that messes with rotation |
| 02:42.57 | Mongoose | ok |
| 02:43.17 | JademusSreg | Forbidden Planet. With destructible rocks and xel'naga temples. /joke |
| 02:43.35 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:44.25 | A1win | I shall implement craftcraft as a minigame into this map |
| 02:44.36 | A1win | something to do while you wait for your fuel to recharge on a planet |
| 02:46.19 | JademusSreg | Perfect. |
| 02:46.38 | JademusSreg | Also, Forbidden Planet > craftcraft =D |
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| 02:46.48 | A1win | yeah well |
| 02:46.57 | A1win | there was like 10 maps named forbidden planet on arcade |
| 02:47.03 | JademusSreg | Oh yeah. |
| 02:47.08 | JademusSreg | I forgot that part. |
| 02:47.45 | JademusSreg | No worries, though, I will continue to refer to it as such, regardless of however vehemently reality disagrees. |
| 02:47.51 | A1win | hehe |
| 02:48.46 | A1win | hmmh these two special planets pretty much cover all the basic mechanics already |
| 02:49.00 | A1win | hull and weapons <.< |
| 02:49.15 | A1win | fuel recharges on all planets, which probably needs to remain so :x |
| 02:49.38 | A1win | so unless I add mechanics, maybe I can't really come up with a third basic type |
| 02:50.31 | A1win | ammo for powerful weapons maybe, unless it'd complicate things too much |
| 02:51.45 | A1win | or credits that you get by killing NPCs, and spend on temporary power ups or something |
| 02:51.55 | JademusSreg | looks forward to exploiting a railgun with infinite ammo. |
| 02:52.02 | A1win | ;> |
| 02:53.47 | JademusSreg | Oh, how about magnetars that disable weapons of ships within their magnetic field and release gamma ray bursts? |
| 02:54.07 | A1win | mmh :x |
| 02:54.53 | A1win | could be interesting |
| 02:55.23 | A1win | since there is nothing hostile in the environment atm |
| 02:55.49 | A1win | black holes might be cool but wouldn't want to put too many of those in :x |
| 03:00.19 | A1win | tech planets that spawn collectible upgrade kits that enhance your ship until you die :P |
| 03:00.58 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 03:01.05 | JademusSreg | Forbidden Planets. |
| 03:02.18 | MoonEater916 | i need a unit |
| 03:02.22 | MoonEater916 | that is unatackable |
| 03:02.27 | MoonEater916 | but has hp bar |
| 03:02.31 | MoonEater916 | im tinkering with flags |
| 03:02.36 | MoonEater916 | but its not working |
| 03:02.49 | A1win | you need to tinker with effect target filters |
| 03:03.01 | A1win | or validators |
| 03:03.02 | MoonEater916 | not an effict |
| 03:03.08 | MoonEater916 | its a unit |
| 03:03.11 | A1win | yeah |
| 03:03.15 | MoonEater916 | that isnt suppose to be attacked |
| 03:03.18 | MoonEater916 | it has no effects |
| 03:03.20 | MoonEater916 | or anything |
| 03:03.29 | MoonEater916 | but i need the hp bar in tact |
| 03:03.32 | MoonEater916 | cause it changes |
| 03:03.32 | A1win | but you might need to set up all the effects and stuff so that they aren't allowed to attack it |
| 03:03.34 | MoonEater916 | randomly |
| 03:03.36 | JademusSreg | Have you considered untargetable? |
| 03:03.45 | A1win | (in the worse case) |
| 03:03.47 | MoonEater916 | u just checked it |
| 03:03.50 | MoonEater916 | ima try it |
| 03:03.57 | A1win | worst even |
| 03:04.01 | A1win | I need sleep |
| 03:04.41 | MoonEater916 | well im pritty much done with my new game |
| 03:04.47 | MoonEater916 | simple easy game but fun |
| 03:04.55 | MoonEater916 | everyone keeps asking me to test it again |
| 03:05.46 | MoonEater916 | wonder if i should ask sixen to do a thing about it |
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| 03:44.29 | nooblark | I BROKE PASTEBIN. OPJHFWEHFPEWJPGOHWHRIIP |
| 04:00.42 | MoonEater916 | A1win |
| 04:00.45 | MoonEater916 | in text editor |
| 04:00.51 | MoonEater916 | is it possible to scale image |
| 04:00.59 | MoonEater916 | well not text editor but in text |
| 04:02.20 | MoonEater916 | Dustin |
| 04:27.28 | NuZalem | Ah MoonEater916, you're still around. Hello. |
| 04:27.50 | MoonEater916 | hello |
| 04:27.51 | MoonEater916 | XD |
| 04:27.54 | MoonEater916 | i been on n off |
| 04:28.38 | NuZalem | Aye |
| 04:28.47 | NuZalem | I just realized this writing assignment is only worth 5% |
| 04:28.51 | NuZalem | of my total grade |
| 04:28.58 | MoonEater916 | only???!?! |
| 04:29.02 | NuZalem | I already have an A average with a test coming up on Tuesday |
| 04:29.02 | MoonEater916 | thats alot... |
| 04:29.15 | MoonEater916 | i have a 99% with a test tomorrow |
| 04:29.16 | NuZalem | and a final after that |
| 04:29.27 | MoonEater916 | ima try to get the extra credit question and put me on 100 |
| 04:29.31 | NuZalem | and then labs are due at the end of the semester' |
| 04:29.57 | NuZalem | Well, the tests/labs weigh so much (plus we get poits for attendance) that the writing assignment is more or less insignificant |
| 04:30.16 | NuZalem | Exams - 65%, Final - 20%, Labs - 10%, paper - 5% |
| 04:30.34 | NuZalem | And I've drilled every test easily |
| 04:30.59 | NuZalem | lowest grade is an 86...which unless by some retarded terrbile luck that happens to strike me |
| 04:31.03 | NuZalem | I won't fail |
| 04:31.04 | MoonEater916 | well i dont let 5% slip away from me in 1 assignment |
| 04:31.08 | MoonEater916 | different people |
| 04:31.29 | MoonEater916 | i failed before |
| 04:31.36 | MoonEater916 | teachers were on a failing spree |
| 04:31.41 | NuZalem | Because of 5%? |
| 04:31.45 | MoonEater916 | na |
| 04:32.04 | MoonEater916 | i know teachers who over 60% of thier classes gfail each semester |
| 04:32.08 | MoonEater916 | ghost town at the end |
| 04:32.18 | NuZalem | Why? |
| 04:32.31 | MoonEater916 | just how they teach |
| 04:32.44 | MoonEater916 | of course no one fails |
| 04:32.46 | MoonEater916 | they all drop |
| 04:32.49 | MoonEater916 | before the end |
| 04:33.43 | NuZalem | Sounds like they're great at not teaching |
| 04:33.49 | NuZalem | Do you live in the States? |
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| 04:37.07 | MoonEater916 | California |
| 04:37.12 | MoonEater916 | Sunny monterey bay |
| 04:39.32 | NuZalem | Ah |
| 04:39.39 | NuZalem | I haven't been to California in years |
| 04:39.41 | NuZalem | I miss it |
| 04:39.44 | NuZalem | I visited Anaheim |
| 04:39.56 | NuZalem | I'd like to visit again |
| 04:40.20 | NuZalem | Originally wanted to move to California...my opinion has changed drastically since. |
| 05:00.05 | MoonEater916 | Anaheim isnt that great |
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| 05:25.33 | demalii | anyone know where to find/delete the bank files on a MAC? |
| 05:25.48 | MoonEater916 | should be the same |
| 05:28.20 | demalii | k thank |
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| 06:09.07 | demalii | hm, quick question.. possible to get your dialogs to.. conform correctly even when player resolutions are different? |
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| 06:30.03 | DeadZergling | probably daytime for otixa now, meaning he is sleeping? |
| 06:36.25 | demalii | lol |
| 06:36.36 | demalii | ;_;'s |
| 06:41.33 | duckies | hey dz, tell me something interesting and mapping - related |
| 06:41.56 | duckies | for example that you have a boss that shoots kamehamehas at you |
| 06:42.09 | DeadZergling | my children are against me finishing my project for sure, they have blocked me from making much progress for 2 weeks straight |
| 06:42.22 | duckies | ,_, |
| 06:42.27 | DeadZergling | in terms of bosses |
| 06:42.31 | DeadZergling | I made a slime monster |
| 06:42.41 | DeadZergling | shrinks a little and spawns 2 extra slimes every 10 % |
| 06:42.45 | DeadZergling | until dead |
| 06:42.52 | DeadZergling | can reset if left alone |
| 06:43.08 | duckies | does it jump on you and is purely in one color? |
| 06:43.30 | DeadZergling | is green, and no, it doesn't jump on you |
| 06:43.35 | DeadZergling | my wolves do though :P |
| 06:43.51 | duckies | aww, still green is pretty awesome. Which model you're using? |
| 06:44.18 | DeadZergling | oh, forget the name for some reason, the little freak the overseer can spawn |
| 06:44.24 | DeadZergling | changeling? |
| 06:44.27 | duckies | I'm too familiar with your wolves x_x |
| 06:44.37 | duckies | yes, changeling |
| 06:45.16 | DeadZergling | another boss is a wizard type, casts lightning bolt, hydra, and icy spray (nova with a freeze component) if you get too close |
| 06:45.23 | duckies | hm, I'm still not enthusiastic enough, tell me more! |
| 06:46.01 | duckies | tell me about items and various cool stats/prefixes/suffixes that diversify gameplay! |
| 06:46.06 | DeadZergling | another is a marine type, shoots pretty much nonstop, and throws 3 grenades at you every 4 seconds |
| 06:46.39 | DeadZergling | oh, not sure my items are that far along yet, did recently put in 12-13 new weapons though that drop specifically from bosses though |
| 06:46.50 | DeadZergling | in addition to the existing ones |
| 06:47.37 | DeadZergling | items add stats, ac of course |
| 06:47.56 | DeadZergling | but special behavior items and what not are still on the drawing board |
| 06:48.29 | duckies | what about some sort of uniue stats on items, for example "10% to make enemy think that he's a sheep (enemy charges and melees you instead of using regular attacks)"//also makes enemy randomly say "bleeh" |
| 06:48.37 | duckies | ah, I see |
| 06:49.15 | DeadZergling | one of my weapons is fairly fun |
| 06:49.19 | DeadZergling | ram head |
| 06:49.28 | DeadZergling | it has a knockback effect |
| 06:50.04 | DeadZergling | added in player useable spread guns, and fast shooting plasma rifle with a reload |
| 06:50.37 | duckies | what about fast shooting laser guns? laser are a bit lore exciting that plasma balls |
| 06:50.45 | duckies | *more |
| 06:50.52 | DeadZergling | oh, those will come later |
| 06:51.04 | DeadZergling | railguns were always planned |
| 06:51.19 | DeadZergling | quake2 style |
| 06:51.33 | duckies | zap zap! |
| 06:53.46 | duckies | man, I'm still not excited enough, I'll go sit in the corner dwell in my misery `_` |
| 06:54.06 | duckies | *on |
| 06:54.47 | DeadZergling | arousing ducks just isn't my forte I guess |
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| 09:17.15 | DeadZergling | holy shit, Japan really outdid itself with fucked up anime with Demon Lord Dante |
| 09:27.08 | DeadZergling | According to it, god is an evil energy spirit who attacked the earth and the peaceful humans who lived there a million years ago. The people refused to let him inhabit their bodies, so he turned them into demons and sent his spirit into monkeys so they would follow him instead. The only way to stop the evil god is through the efforts of Satan, Dante, Medusa, and of course incest! |
| 09:27.38 | DeadZergling | *sighs* where do they come up with this shit.... |
| 09:32.03 | duckies|apathy | that looks like a delightful thing to watch |
| 09:34.00 | DeadZergling | I swear, it is the law that incest must happen if you have a sister or brother over there |
| 09:34.05 | DeadZergling | way the damn animes are |
| 09:44.20 | G0A | they must be crazy, but you do watch their animes... :D |
| 09:45.39 | DeadZergling | is the easiest way to escape reality |
| 09:45.41 | DeadZergling | that's for sure :P |
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| 09:53.33 | Lepton | does blizzard have intent in fixing the victory screen lag bug? |
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| 10:05.42 | DeadZergling | welcome back, enjoy your quackers? |
| 10:14.25 | G0A | Lepton probably not, they didnt fix anything since like hots... |
| 10:15.52 | duckies | yeah, I feel moderately alive now =D |
| 10:16.25 | duckies | do they visit us in the venings? |
| 10:16.30 | duckies | *evenings |
| 10:17.34 | Lepton | G0A, well that FUCKING sucks |
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| 10:59.10 | duckies | why so unhappy lepton? |
| 10:59.26 | Lepton | cause the bug is screwing my map :( |
| 10:59.32 | duckies | which bug? |
| 10:59.39 | Lepton | the victory screen bug |
| 10:59.45 | Lepton | where winner lags out |
| 10:59.45 | duckies | what about it? |
| 10:59.50 | duckies | oh |
| 11:00.46 | duckies | I guess you'll just have to make your map unwinnable then :D |
| 11:03.34 | G0A | same stuff with my map... |
| 11:03.47 | G0A | I made now a custom victory screen thingy |
| 11:07.07 | duckies | but it's never gonna be the same as original win screen that leaves a cup instead of skull in your match history |
| 11:07.10 | duckies | =/ |
| 11:07.20 | duckies | what is causing this bug? |
| 11:08.06 | Lepton | you guys gotta ping me! |
| 11:08.38 | Lepton | G0A, duckies yea thats the thing |
| 11:08.49 | Lepton | I want the score screen to show victory :/ |
| 11:09.00 | Lepton | it works, sometimes, like...40% of the time |
| 11:09.15 | Lepton | the rest it either says defeat or YOU HAV LEFT THE GAME |
| 11:09.21 | Lepton | its so glitched |
| 11:09.45 | Lepton | and also the official victory screen is so rewarding, i want it to stay there :s |
| 11:10.21 | Lepton | anyway, is there a way to get players name from players color? |
| 11:10.57 | G0A | Lepton you use banks in your map? |
| 11:11.09 | duckies | sure there is, but you'll need to programm it :D |
| 11:11.24 | Lepton | G0A, yes |
| 11:12.05 | Lepton | you think it has to do with it? |
| 11:12.36 | Lepton | maybe remove every banks right before? |
| 11:12.41 | Lepton | did yout ry that? |
| 11:13.06 | G0A | nope |
| 11:13.16 | G0A | but I think it has to do with banks |
| 11:13.32 | duckies | I remember goa writing on forums about that bug°.. and I ust admit that I have been a victim of unfair victory treatment myself |
| 11:13.33 | G0A | yeah maybe remove banks help |
| 11:13.33 | Lepton | well please let me know if you ever find a fix |
| 11:13.39 | duckies | and it was with a map with a bnak |
| 11:13.40 | Lepton | i have seen maps that work just fine |
| 11:13.41 | duckies | :/ |
| 11:13.49 | Lepton | so there must be fsomething that is causeing it |
| 11:14.29 | duckies | yes, blizzards incompitence is causing it! |
| 11:14.31 | Lepton | but to get back to the other thing, theres no functions to get player from players color? |
| 11:14.32 | duckies | jk jk |
| 11:14.35 | G0A | :D |
| 11:14.43 | Lepton | that too duckies |
| 11:14.54 | Lepton | especially that actually |
| 11:15.01 | DeadZergling | I seriously doubt that Lepton |
| 11:15.05 | DeadZergling | unless you have set colors |
| 11:15.28 | Lepton | ok well ill ffine a work aroudn then |
| 11:15.28 | DeadZergling | and even then, it wouldn't make a lot of sense |
| 11:15.29 | Lepton | tks |
| 11:15.37 | DeadZergling | why would Red have anything to do with the players name? |
| 11:15.42 | duckies | just make a custom function that goes through all player and returns player that has specefied color |
| 11:15.46 | DeadZergling | what are you trying to do? :P |
| 11:16.13 | duckies | besides yea, not much sense when multiple players can have same color |
| 11:16.32 | DeadZergling | that could work duckies, but why |
| 11:16.46 | duckies | because world needs more obscure stuff! |
| 11:17.16 | DeadZergling | behold my convoluted loot dropping system sometime then |
| 11:20.06 | Lepton | yea true |
| 11:20.12 | duckies | can't wait, I too am about to create some sort mess of an item system |
| 11:21.08 | duckies | it's gonna be so bad that I'll probably forfeit mapping alltogether because of trauma I inflicted on myself while creating it |
| 11:21.37 | duckies | even thinking about it makes me crawl into corner and die =/ |
| 11:21.44 | duckies | *makes me want |
| 11:22.22 | Lepton | but G0A youve never found any fix for the bug? |
| 11:23.33 | duckies | if he had, he wouldn't be suffering from it right now :D |
| 11:26.37 | DeadZergling | know what'd be awesome, being able to compare text values |
| 11:27.40 | DeadZergling | know what will never happen? lol |
| 11:28.27 | duckies | bigger mapsizes and dynamic terrain texture alteration? :/ |
| 11:28.29 | duckies | also server side banks |
| 11:29.36 | duckies | and yeah.. stuff with text, cause player names, discrimination & blah blah blah |
| 11:30.08 | DeadZergling | workaround for bigger mapsize is a real bitch |
| 11:31.06 | duckies | I imagine |
| 11:31.38 | DeadZergling | I'm reminded each and every actor I make |
| 11:31.43 | DeadZergling | each and every time I terrain edit |
| 11:31.53 | DeadZergling | each and every time I place doodads or move them in any way |
| 11:32.31 | duckies | yes, blizz is trying hard to make their editors lives as miserable as possible, so that we may live like a true artists |
| 11:32.33 | DeadZergling | unfamiliar with the pathing tool? Oh don't worry, you will be the master soon! |
| 11:33.23 | duckies | ooh yea, min footprints are 1x1 |
| 11:33.46 | duckies | it must be rather uncomfortable with all the scaling ;/ |
| 11:34.39 | DeadZergling | yea, it gets kinda bad sometimes, lol |
| 11:34.58 | DeadZergling | then add the fact I had to do a special workaround to make projectile blocking happen the way I wanted |
| 11:36.20 | DeadZergling | wanted projectiles to not go up cliffs, but be able to fly across empty space |
| 11:36.43 | DeadZergling | and some other thing, well anyways, long story short.... |
| 11:36.47 | duckies | sounds like immense amounts if soul-wrecking fun |
| 11:37.01 | DeadZergling | I have special compound regions made up of 50-70 little squares |
| 11:37.09 | DeadZergling | that apply behavior to projectiles |
| 11:37.17 | DeadZergling | that lets them know to self destruct |
| 11:37.18 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 11:38.45 | duckies | no Idea how that works and why you need it :D |
| 11:39.20 | DeadZergling | had to do with the way no pathing works |
| 11:39.35 | DeadZergling | it counts empty space (max lowered cliff) as no pathing |
| 11:40.29 | DeadZergling | didn't want fireballs going through cliffs/giant rocks/buildings |
| 11:40.35 | duckies | you needed it for projectiles to fly over "no pathing" space, but to die when they hit regular cliffs? |
| 11:40.39 | DeadZergling | but did want them going over empty space |
| 11:40.54 | DeadZergling | so had to come up with a workaround to make it happen |
| 11:41.15 | duckies | ahaa |
| 11:41.55 | duckies | sounds like you're having a splendid time with the editor :D |
| 11:42.06 | DeadZergling | I may very well delete the cliff portion of the validator soon |
| 11:42.12 | DeadZergling | just use custom regions there too, lol |
| 11:42.53 | DeadZergling | just in case a later area I want to allow shooting up/down cliffs |
| 11:45.57 | duckies | DZ, shouldn't you be .. sleeping? :o |
| 11:46.26 | DeadZergling | yea, and soon, kids decided I should suffer instead of editing for awhile though |
| 11:47.12 | duckies | family life sounds like such wonderful joy when your hobby is making games =D |
| 11:48.13 | duckies | how old are your kids? |
| 11:48.50 | DeadZergling | almost 1, almost 1, and almost 3 |
| 11:50.58 | duckies | suddenly my impression that you sleep just 2h a day makes perfect sense |
| 11:51.48 | DeadZergling | yea, isn't all that far off some days |
| 12:01.20 | DeadZergling | well no going to bed for me yet, my trigger editor keeps dinging at me |
| 12:02.28 | DeadZergling | not too bad, only 4 dings, lol |
| 12:02.52 | DeadZergling | I'm outta here anyways, get my whole 5 hours of sleep in |
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| 12:33.28 | Dustin | morning |
| 12:34.24 | duckies | and good day to you too |
| 12:34.34 | duckies | what wonderful news do you bring to us today? |
| 12:36.06 | Dustin | No news, been boring lately |
| 12:37.32 | duckies | aaw, no good news? not even bad ones? |
| 12:38.18 | duckies | how is that wave defense map of yours doing that I played once and didn't like much because there wad no skill variety in it at a time but you promised it would be there eventually? |
| 12:38.31 | duckies | or you've decided to stuff elsewhere? |
| 12:38.55 | Dustin | Yeah I've been working on it a bit as I go, working on features and bug fixes and things, I need to add more weapons/Armors still thoguh |
| 12:39.43 | duckies | best part of that map was chaingun turrets |
| 12:39.52 | duckies | you should allow players to purchase more of them |
| 12:40.04 | duckies | that would make map 23% more awesome |
| 12:40.07 | Dustin | lol |
| 12:41.09 | duckies | also if you make them fire miniature chaingun turrets instead of bullets it'll result in additional 17% of awesome toatling up to 140% |
| 12:41.45 | duckies | after that unfortunately it suffers heavily from diminishing returns |
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| 12:42.07 | duckies | so you shouldn't implement that chaingun hat idea you've had, sorry |
| 12:42.16 | Dustin | haha damn |
| 12:42.17 | Dustin | Wait |
| 12:42.25 | Dustin | What if I give the chainguns their own hats |
| 12:42.36 | Dustin | So you can upgrade it to fit wahtever hat style youd like |
| 12:43.21 | duckies | that .. could work. And make them mount ostriches instead of being static |
| 12:43.28 | Dustin | Oh good idea |
| 12:43.46 | Dustin | I was gonna go with an Emu, but an Ostriche sounds better |
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| 12:44.24 | duckies | yes, sounds like we've attained a piece of perfection there |
| 12:44.36 | duckies | good job, now go make it =D |
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| 12:59.29 | Ahli | how does one get the link to the album one created on imgur? |
| 13:10.44 | Ahli | now it worked and send me to the page with the album >_> |
| 13:15.00 | Dustin | lol |
| 13:15.12 | Dustin | Stop fucking shit up Ahli! |
| 13:15.53 | G0A | Lepton I never managed to fix the win screen bug |
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| 14:01.52 | Ahli | http://imgur.com/a/MuHCf#0 I failed a little with imgur :X but have some screenshots of the interface |
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| 14:25.02 | egod | i find a werid bug |
| 14:25.36 | egod | How come i have a (Custom Soundtrack music) working OFFLINE and not ONLINE |
| 14:25.52 | egod | each time i am on battle.net, the soundtrack is not starting |
| 14:26.00 | egod | when i am offile, it work |
| 14:27.48 | Ahli | o_0 |
| 14:28.14 | egod | maybe its because i namded the file: diablo |
| 14:28.40 | Ahli | map's dependency to the mod file on bnet not updated? |
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| 14:28.50 | egod | hmm |
| 14:29.01 | Ahli | or is the file in the map? |
| 14:29.08 | egod | i think the file is in the map |
| 14:29.11 | egod | let me check |
| 14:29.55 | egod | yeah the file is in the map |
| 14:32.20 | Ahli | no idea then... very mysterious |
| 14:37.10 | egod | i got a idea |
| 14:37.21 | egod | will try test it online with 1 player and online with 2xplayers |
| 14:37.24 | egod | see what append |
| 14:44.32 | egod | not playing :( |
| 14:44.35 | egod | weird bug |
| 14:47.06 | egod | i find something interesting |
| 14:47.40 | egod | in Sound Panel, there some flags: one said: Wait for this resource before the loading bar completes |
| 14:47.51 | egod | i start mu music right at the begin |
| 14:48.03 | egod | will try to check that |
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| 15:00.15 | Dustin | Man I can't find shit for the new assests, wish there was a flag for the models where I could sort by dependancy |
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| 15:44.42 | JademusSreg | Zooop. |
| 15:46.16 | JademusSreg | Wat's contemporaneously occuring? |
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| 15:55.39 | egod | is there a reason why my (Soundtrack) play OFFLINe and not ONLINE ?!?! |
| 15:58.13 | A1win | so now I have the upgrade planets, but not sure what they upgrade :x |
| 15:58.36 | A1win | or how to visualize it |
| 15:59.07 | JademusSreg | Eggo, possibly. Try preloading the asset. |
| 15:59.23 | egod | preloading? what you mean? |
| 16:01.32 | JademusSreg | Preloaded assets compared to on demand loading of assets. |
| 16:01.46 | JademusSreg | Map > Preload Info |
| 16:01.53 | egod | ok checking |
| 16:02.40 | JademusSreg | Preloading assets is preferable (in that it avoids the lag spikes during gameplay) and sometimes even necessary. |
| 16:03.14 | egod | i dont find what you taling in Preload |
| 16:03.45 | egod | map info? |
| 16:03.53 | JademusSreg | You see the menu bar along the top, yes? Map > Preload Info |
| 16:04.03 | JademusSreg | Map is the menu, Preload Info is the command. |
| 16:04.07 | egod | ohh |
| 16:05.36 | egod | trying |
| 16:07.05 | egod | uploading...sooo |
| 16:07.36 | egod | preload...i guess its good if a lot of thing are loaded at the map initialisation? |
| 16:07.41 | egod | what is this for |
| 16:08.24 | JademusSreg | Loads it during map load, rather than in game. |
| 16:08.36 | JademusSreg | Avoids lag spikes from on demand loading. |
| 16:08.38 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 16:09.01 | egod | what kind of deman loading? any kinds ? |
| 16:09.32 | A1win | "on demand loading" means that it is not loaded until it's needed (demanded) |
| 16:09.46 | egod | hm |
| 16:10.03 | A1win | like if you start shooting a weapon and the firing sound hasn't been loaded, it's loaded when you start shooting for the first time |
| 16:10.22 | egod | interesting |
| 16:11.14 | A1win | assets linked to data objects are loaded when that object is spawned for the first time |
| 16:11.37 | A1win | so if things are spawned from triggers, they usually need manual preloading |
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| 16:16.07 | egod | this is so unbelivable |
| 16:16.31 | egod | my soundtrack doesnt play when im on Battle.net, but it work when im not... ?!?! |
| 16:16.50 | A1win | have you checked your sound settings? :X |
| 16:16.52 | egod | i tryed pre-load |
| 16:17.48 | egod | i can hear the (in-game) music |
| 16:17.55 | A1win | ah |
| 16:18.00 | egod | but it doenst switct |
| 16:18.02 | egod | switch |
| 16:18.06 | egod | to mine |
| 16:18.15 | egod | but only ONLINE ;-| |
| 16:18.25 | JademusSreg | Did you make your own soundtrack data? |
| 16:18.30 | egod | yes |
| 16:19.17 | egod | i flag it: Stream and Wait |
| 16:20.01 | JademusSreg | I never had trouble with it; I just locked the race, made the racial soundtrack data refer to the songs. Pretty straight forward. |
| 16:21.38 | Dustin | woot that was a good bugfix / polish run i made |
| 16:21.59 | egod | i tryed the trick where you are logged, and you test map, and the sound work! |
| 16:22.06 | Ahli | I copy pasted the existing music entries and put my file into it whne I put in custom music |
| 16:22.07 | egod | its when i publishing |
| 16:22.58 | egod | will try re-do the file data, brb |
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| 16:41.18 | egod | ... |
| 16:41.42 | egod | how come it only work OFFLINE, its impossible ! XD |
| 16:43.32 | egod | i got a little error who said: UISetFrameVisible is not authorized? you think its related to this ? something (not autorised) on battle.net only ? |
| 16:46.32 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/triggers/show-hide-ui-frame/ attempting to hide/show some special UI frames? |
| 16:46.54 | Ahli | btw, simulation software is fun :D |
| 16:49.51 | egod | ahhh |
| 16:49.55 | egod | rights |
| 16:50.18 | egod | oh wow |
| 16:50.43 | egod | i just (Re-saved) my map file , and it seems to have fixed everything... |
| 16:50.50 | egod | i make a new one |
| 16:50.53 | egod | testing |
| 16:52.41 | Dustin | Anyone know how to fix corpses that don't decay? |
| 16:54.15 | egod | my map file was corrupt |
| 16:54.23 | egod | gg |
| 16:55.39 | egod | this mean, when i published the map, he didnt publish all the file correctly ONLINE |
| 16:55.56 | egod | that is why, but its actuelly weird, cause it was not all the file, some worked |
| 16:55.59 | egod | whatever |
| 16:56.55 | Ahli | fix? |
| 16:57.32 | egod | i find a way to keep Corpses on the ground just with the actor, its really cool |
| 16:57.35 | duckies | I guess.. you need to imitate death |
| 16:57.39 | duckies | oh |
| 16:57.40 | duckies | :D |
| 16:57.42 | Ahli | dustin, add timer, stop animation when timer runs out... timer and animation need to match... |
| 16:57.53 | Ahli | I'm using custom death actors for that |
| 16:58.13 | Dustin | Yeah I was thinking about that, that'll work, Ill give it a shot |
| 16:58.18 | Ahli | (but I blend out the corpses after 10 seconds) |
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| 17:02.01 | Dustin | But I do revive the unit and it has its normal model somewhere else too |
| 17:02.07 | Dustin | This should work though |
| 17:02.30 | Mongoose | hello |
| 17:02.43 | Mongoose | can any help with making a unit look like a doodad |
| 17:03.31 | Mongoose | or is that even possible? |
| 17:04.36 | duckies | you relace units model with doodad model |
| 17:04.52 | duckies | then turn of clickable+selectable and other such flags |
| 17:05.20 | duckies | finally you remove its radius from both unit and minimap and leave only footprint for collision |
| 17:05.35 | duckies | and maybe give it to p0 by default |
| 17:05.40 | duckies | something along those lines |
| 17:05.54 | duckies | so it's certanly not impossible |
| 17:06.32 | Mongoose | ok but is that in the data editor or where exactly should i be looking |
| 17:08.01 | Otixa_ | Dustin smells |
| 17:08.13 | Dustin | Liar! |
| 17:08.19 | Otixa_ | Noe |
| 17:13.08 | Lepton | is there a way to remove the f10 menu? |
| 17:19.55 | Dustin | No Lepton, its so people can quit the map |
| 17:20.10 | Lepton | yeahhh but i think ive seen it done |
| 17:20.51 | Lepton | also someone here once deleted it by mistake while trying to remove f10 menu buttons |
| 17:21.03 | Dustin | hmm the button or the hotkey? |
| 17:21.16 | Dustin | Oh wait, you mean individual buttons on the f10 mneu? |
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| 17:22.28 | Lepton | removing the quit button |
| 17:22.36 | Lepton | or removing everything on the f10 menu |
| 17:22.43 | Lepton | either way would be fine for me |
| 17:22.51 | Dustin | I think you can adjust individual buttons |
| 17:22.56 | Dustin | look under the UI triggers |
| 17:23.08 | Lepton | i think if you do remove game menu item "quit button" it doesnt actually remove it |
| 17:23.56 | Dustin | Sounds about right |
| 17:25.07 | Mongoose | thank you very much duckies i got |
| 17:25.56 | duckies | oh... I'm glad you've found it :D.. don't forget to hide healthbars! |
| 17:26.58 | A1win | whee now you can control the launch speed of projectiles as well as your jump strength while landed on a planet |
| 17:27.56 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/a38/SC2%202013-07-18%2020-27-01-91.jpg |
| 17:28.29 | Lepton | cool stuff alwin |
| 17:28.33 | A1win | the percentage shows the launch velocity multiplier, ranges from 60% to 100% depending on the distance between cursor to the ship |
| 17:28.45 | A1win | might be better as a bar instead of numeric display though |
| 17:35.22 | Dustin | Ugh, this fucking Kraith model |
| 17:39.17 | Dustin | A1win, looks awesome |
| 17:50.39 | A1win | also I just realized how to solve the issue that you can get stuck in space if you fly too far and decelerate to 0 velocity :P I'll simply make thrusters regenerate when they are not active at a slow rate even in space |
| 17:51.06 | Dustin | good call |
| 17:52.33 | A1win | now you can hide in space indefinitely though but you're not getting any score so it probably doesn't matter (and other players can come and kill you anyway) |
| 17:56.00 | A1win | now to figure out what these upgrade planets actually upgrade D: |
| 17:56.10 | A1win | and is there a cap to it... |
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| 18:33.47 | MoonEater916 | hello! |
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| 18:41.37 | Dustin | .... fucking editor crashed trying to view a model and now it opens up to that model and crashes when I reload the editor lol |
| 18:41.48 | JademusSreg | Niiice. |
| 18:50.28 | A1win | ooh an idea for the upgrades: score multiplier, the more of them you pick up, the more points you get per kill |
| 18:51.55 | MoonEater916 | A1win, that might get too complicated |
| 18:52.05 | A1win | complicated? |
| 18:52.40 | A1win | maybe not very intuitive though |
| 18:52.57 | MoonEater916 | well not only do u have to take in account changes in scores accumulation rates when scripting, but new players may not see benifits like exerienced players |
| 18:53.32 | Dustin | Yeah this is fucking retarded now I have to find the file that keeps that setting saved about hte last model opened to load and change it |
| 18:53.56 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 18:55.53 | JademusSreg | EditorVariables.txt and Variables.txt in SC2's document directory. |
| 18:56.55 | Dustin | Ill mark that down, I was able to get it working by opening an already set model and re-setting it then making a new model |
| 18:57.03 | A1win | MoonEater916, so in other words, it's not very intuitive |
| 18:57.16 | A1win | it's super easy in script though ;p |
| 18:58.02 | A1win | and not very fun either |
| 18:58.13 | A1win | mmh |
| 18:58.45 | A1win | I wonder if I could upgrade ship mobility |
| 18:59.01 | A1win | or should that be consistent |
| 18:59.29 | A1win | might be more difficult to learn the controls if the behavior changes during the game |
| 19:00.37 | A1win | I guess I'll just disable the upgrade planets for now and see if new ideas manifest themselves during testing |
| 19:00.51 | MoonEater916 | A1win, i was about to say that |
| 19:00.52 | MoonEater916 | XD |
| 19:02.15 | A1win | could do a playtest in a bit, after I've finished cooking and eating |
| 19:02.26 | Dustin | Msg me when A1win |
| 19:02.52 | MoonEater916 | same |
| 19:03.22 | A1win | will take about half an hour |
| 19:04.14 | A1win | I increased field of view a bit, so much better ;p |
| 19:04.27 | A1win | and enabled zooming in back to the usual fov |
| 19:04.45 | MoonEater916 | i wonder if i should post my new game on mapsters |
| 19:04.59 | JademusSreg | Bnet. |
| 19:05.08 | MoonEater916 | LOZL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:05.24 | MoonEater916 | i ment like map freeback or somwere in that section |
| 19:05.35 | A1win | also, I need a name for this map :[ |
| 19:05.59 | JademusSreg | Ballad Of Orbital Battle |
| 19:06.00 | A1win | before it ends up as StarStar or something |
| 19:06.19 | JademusSreg | Or Ballet Of Orbital Battle |
| 19:06.21 | JademusSreg | Better. |
| 19:06.25 | MoonEater916 | wth? |
| 19:06.27 | MoonEater916 | ballet.... |
| 19:06.34 | MoonEater916 | comon... |
| 19:06.52 | MoonEater916 | Orbital battle is better than ballet |
| 19:07.10 | MoonEater916 | people will expect dancing and tutus |
| 19:07.20 | MoonEater916 | or |
| 19:07.23 | MoonEater916 | carl sagan |
| 19:07.40 | MoonEater916 | A1win, ADD CARL SAGAN AND A SUPER UNIT!!! |
| 19:07.41 | MoonEater916 | AHAHA |
| 19:07.42 | JademusSreg | Ballet is pretty much the most hardcore dancing one can do. |
| 19:07.52 | MoonEater916 | ............... |
| 19:09.22 | JademusSreg | It demands a spartan lifestyle, and is so physically demanding in its conditioning that it literally fractures and reshapes bone. |
| 19:10.53 | MoonEater916 | most high impact activities done long enough reshapes bones |
| 19:10.56 | MoonEater916 | anatomoy 101 |
| 19:11.07 | MoonEater916 | bones in a constant state of decay and regrowth |
| 19:11.12 | MoonEater916 | anyways |
| 19:11.19 | MoonEater916 | I WANT CARL SAGAN! |
| 19:12.13 | JademusSreg | Sure, but to do so with grace, that is hardcore dance. |
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| 19:13.51 | MoonEater916 | JademusSreg, just scream carl sagan at a1win at me |
| 19:13.51 | JademusSreg | Also, more importantly, the acronym must form a comically inappropriate word. |
| 19:13.53 | MoonEater916 | OMG |
| 19:14.03 | MoonEater916 | U SHOULD DO A GRAVITY HERO ARENA |
| 19:14.44 | MoonEater916 | NEWTON, LYNIS, EINSTINE, SAGAN, HAWKINGS, GALIEO |
| 19:14.48 | MoonEater916 | LOLZ |
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| 19:17.09 | DeadZergling | nearing the shouldn't be awake at all time for Otixa, meaning he is probably awake now |
| 19:19.36 | JademusSreg | Ballistic Angels: Laser Love Saga, Twilight Wake: Assault Tactics, Celestial Uprising: Newtonian Torment, Planetary Insurrection: Spatial Shooter |
| 19:21.14 | MoonEater916 | DeadZergling... what? |
| 19:21.45 | JademusSreg | A1, I realize it's difficult to choose one from so many quality options. |
| 19:22.15 | DeadZergling | Oh been trying to get a response from Otixa, hasn't been working :P |
| 19:23.41 | G0A | MoonEater916 You left out Feynman! |
| 19:29.49 | Dustin | This has got to be a revive bug or something |
| 19:30.22 | Dustin | My unit dies and gets revived fine, but he leaves behind a corpse that's clickable and selects the revived unit when clicked |
| 19:35.51 | Dustin | Muahah, I just sent an actor message to it to force destruction before I revive it. works |
| 19:36.20 | Ahli | yay, I'm improving my weapon/armor upgrade system |
| 19:36.39 | Ahli | empty label creates unreliable offsets -> empty label can fix them, too |
| 19:43.20 | A1win | k done eating, playtest in a moment |
| 19:44.00 | Dustin | kk |
| 19:49.44 | A1win | JademusSreg, MoonEater916: up for a playtest? |
| 19:53.52 | A1win | or anyone else |
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| 19:57.14 | Dustin | A1win, Im on, but ima step out real fast for a smoke |
| 20:01.37 | Otixa_ | hits DeadZergling with an empty redbull can |
| 20:01.53 | DeadZergling | at least that means you are awake |
| 20:02.00 | DeadZergling | you got some long hours man, lol |
| 20:02.53 | nooblark | jade i got that to work last night |
| 20:03.11 | nooblark | multipliersArray[prop][i] |
| 20:03.18 | Otixa_ | :P |
| 20:03.21 | Otixa_ | afk |
| 20:03.25 | Dustin | back |
| 20:03.26 | DeadZergling | Anyways, since you were making the border, was wondering if you wanted to make the text box and buttons too |
| 20:03.31 | nooblark | apparently translates multipliers.prop[i] :P |
| 20:03.37 | DeadZergling | so they you know, match :P |
| 20:06.44 | Dustin | people come play A1win's map with us! |
| 20:10.55 | A1win | Dustin, we're 3 now |
| 20:11.45 | Dustin | woot |
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| 20:13.36 | A1win | :P nice lag |
| 20:13.57 | Dustin | yeah wtf, my game is like not responding |
| 20:14.05 | Dustin | lemme restart sc |
| 20:15.40 | Ahli | yay, perfect armor/weapon upgrade icon bar created |
| 20:16.21 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I can test, after I run a few errands. |
| 20:17.04 | Dustin | im back on A1win |
| 20:17.05 | JademusSreg | So I'll be back soon. |
| 20:40.32 | G0A | lol: "S&P500 hits all time high as Detroit files bankruptcy" |
| 20:43.01 | MoonEater916 | BACK! |
| 20:43.16 | MoonEater916 | Jade stopped map making awhile back?? |
| 20:44.55 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 20:46.18 | MoonEater916 | [13:43] <MoonEater916> Jade stopped map making awhile back?? |
| 20:46.27 | JademusSreg | A1, let me know when the next test starts. |
| 20:46.37 | A1win | yeah I'll just fix a few things |
| 20:46.45 | MoonEater916 | im back so i can test |
| 20:47.01 | MoonEater916 | might go into a test of my own soon |
| 20:47.06 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/gameheart%20published%20files/gameheart_UI_1vs1_v1.51.SC2Interface |
| 20:47.30 | DeadZergling | what makes you say that Moon? |
| 20:47.38 | MoonEater916 | cause im testing |
| 20:47.42 | MoonEater916 | i have been testing all week |
| 20:47.47 | Dustin | whats ur map |
| 20:47.52 | DeadZergling | I meant about Jade |
| 20:47.55 | MoonEater916 | ull gave to come see it |
| 20:47.59 | MoonEater916 | i dont do descriptions |
| 20:48.01 | MoonEater916 | :P |
| 20:48.11 | Fate__ | A1win hl me for when u want to run an other test |
| 20:48.33 | JademusSreg | I did stop for a while, yes. From about 1.5 to 2.0.whatever. |
| 20:49.00 | MoonEater916 | lolz |
| 20:49.12 | DeadZergling | are we currently still in 2.0.whatever? |
| 20:49.12 | MoonEater916 | so now u climbed back on the bus? |
| 20:49.40 | JademusSreg | If one must use the bus analogy, then I'm Joe Black. |
| 20:50.35 | MoonEater916 | ew... |
| 20:50.42 | JademusSreg | Ahli, nice interface. =D |
| 20:51.58 | A1win | alright |
| 20:51.59 | Ahli | indeed |
| 20:52.08 | A1win | Dustin, Fate__, JademusSreg, MoonEater916: test time |
| 20:53.10 | Fate__ | yep |
| 20:53.58 | MoonEater916 | in a test already :/ |
| 20:54.14 | MoonEater916 | big test 7 people |
| 20:54.41 | Ahli | starcraft II setup crashed... :X |
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| 20:55.00 | JademusSreg | Logging in. |
| 20:57.15 | A1win | Dustin, joining us? |
| 20:57.34 | Dustin | on a call for work atm |
| 21:03.44 | A1win | anyone else for a playtest? o: |
| 21:04.52 | Fate__ | i wonder why the most are not interrested in maptests |
| 21:04.52 | DeadZergling | nope, work again for me, yay! |
| 21:05.07 | DeadZergling | I have a pretty good excuse most the time fate :P |
| 21:05.09 | A1win | well I'm not usually interested in tests either :P |
| 21:05.40 | DeadZergling | I'm sure my latest post will make me loved by all :P |
| 21:06.19 | Fate__ | link |
| 21:06.33 | DeadZergling | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/54563-has-the-arcade-gained-momentum/?page=6#p111 |
| 21:12.56 | Ahli | love your comment, lol |
| 21:13.17 | JademusSreg | Apt. |
| 21:13.50 | Ahli | GUYS, THE GAME IS DIEING!!!! TEH END IS NEAR! SHOULD I PLAY LOL OR DOTA2 NOW? |
| 21:14.54 | DeadZergling | well whatever, just have to make my project good enough to singlehandedly revive it |
| 21:15.28 | JademusSreg | Wait, Ahli, are you telling me people actually play SC2? I assumed my experience with the dozen or so people here was the totality of SC2, and now I discover there's a game, and people play it? |
| 21:17.30 | DeadZergling | seems I can't just get out from under my bridge, lol |
| 21:18.43 | DeadZergling | fearful if I do the goats will get me |
| 21:19.49 | MoonEater916 | DeadZergling, nice necro |
| 21:19.55 | JademusSreg | Distract them with delicious socks. |
| 21:21.40 | DeadZergling | sorry for the troll under the bridge reference, can blame king's quest 1 |
| 21:21.42 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 21:23.42 | JademusSreg | It was well received, but troll critics described the work as "pandering to [our] bridge-locked demographic". |
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| 21:24.18 | MoonEater916 | jade, elaborate quote? dont really get it |
| 21:24.33 | MoonEater916 | might take a sec to come to me or somthing |
| 21:25.21 | MoonEater916 | DeadZergling |
| 21:25.30 | MoonEater916 | post a thread in blizzard |
| 21:25.35 | MoonEater916 | and ill back u |
| 21:25.47 | MoonEater916 | and we can try to get people to also back it from here |
| 21:26.21 | DeadZergling | Psstttt, it is helpful if the poster knows what he is posting about |
| 21:26.22 | JademusSreg | Premise for a game: Left 4 FedEx, a first-person parcel delivery game. |
| 21:26.38 | MoonEater916 | LOLZ |
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| 21:30.22 | DeadZergling | Like seriously Moon, what you talking about? Do you want me to make an argument for why Cool Ranch Doritos are superior to Nacho Cheese flavor? |
| 21:30.32 | DeadZergling | That was way out of left field man. |
| 21:31.18 | JademusSreg | A1, are we waiting on a fourth player? |
| 21:31.25 | A1win | I don't know ;p |
| 21:31.51 | JademusSreg | Will it work properly with 3? If so, no need to wait. |
| 21:31.52 | A1win | I suppose we should go with 3 for a while |
| 21:31.58 | MoonEater916 | IM AVAILABLE |
| 21:32.02 | MoonEater916 | ]ADD ME |
| 21:32.05 | MoonEater916 | ADD ME!! |
| 21:32.07 | A1win | we're on EU |
| 21:32.10 | MoonEater916 | 1 sec |
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| 21:32.28 | MoonEater916 | am now! |
| 21:32.32 | MoonEater916 | what channel? |
| 21:32.47 | A1win | SC2Mapster works |
| 21:33.19 | A1win | Fate__, we're starting |
| 21:33.29 | Fate__ | okey |
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| 22:00.14 | JademusSreg | gg |
| 22:00.16 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:00.40 | MoonEater916 | Jade |
| 22:01.20 | A1win | connection died |
| 22:01.33 | MoonEater916 | i like it |
| 22:02.08 | MoonEater916 | well my game is going public now |
| 22:02.10 | MoonEater916 | :/ |
| 22:04.35 | A1win | what if the ships were a bit larger, would be easier to hit them with stuff o: |
| 22:04.57 | A1win | like just a little bit bigger |
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| 22:06.35 | A1win | hmm or maybe even more |
| 22:09.06 | A1win | yeah this should be an improvement :x |
| 22:11.39 | A1win | hmm maybe I should make it so that the jump strength adjustment only works while holding shift, and if not, it's always 100% |
| 22:13.43 | JademusSreg | Hitting opponents seems more luck than skill atm. |
| 22:14.30 | A1win | yeah |
| 22:14.35 | A1win | I made ships bigger, that should help with it |
| 22:14.37 | Spazzu0d | JademusSreg, do you know anyone here who has expertise in editing cliff models in blender? |
| 22:14.41 | A1win | probably not enough though |
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| 22:16.21 | A1win | JademusSreg, or our skills just aren't very good yet :P I'd suspect people would get better over time if they just kept playing |
| 22:16.32 | A1win | so a high learning curve rather |
| 22:21.09 | A1win | also the game needs deflective and reflective shields that can be activated with a cooldown |
| 22:21.34 | A1win | but first hitting things needs to be easy enough that shields won't make it impossible :P |
| 22:23.29 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 22:24.39 | JademusSreg | I'm not aware of which modelers specifically use the blender + m3 tools, but twodie, Triceron, and Zolden are the resident modelers here. |
| 22:25.31 | DeadZergling | pretty confident Zolden does not use blender |
| 22:25.45 | DeadZergling | he won't be around for weeks as well |
| 22:28.39 | A1win | hmm maybe I should make fuel deplete a bit faster |
| 22:28.41 | JademusSreg | A1, perhaps. Takes up to several seconds to determine the firing angle compensating for gravity to hit an opponent, but often less time to start moving, so movement is nearly always a better option than firing. |
| 22:28.57 | A1win | yeah |
| 22:28.59 | JademusSreg | Perhaps regarding the skill levels, I mean. |
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| 22:30.37 | JademusSreg | If one of the standard projectiles was less vunerable to gravity's influence, would probably see more deliberate kills. |
| 22:31.08 | A1win | maybe I just increased gravity too much |
| 22:31.25 | JademusSreg | At least half my kills that game were from constant suppressive fire into areas I couldn't see. |
| 22:31.28 | A1win | it wasn't this hard to hit stuff before :P |
| 22:32.01 | A1win | well I got plenty of kills by flying around and actually aiming to shoot |
| 22:32.32 | JademusSreg | I did that too, but the responsiveness left much to be desired. |
| 22:33.04 | JademusSreg | Perhaps I could look at your code responsible for weapon firing. =D |
| 22:33.52 | A1win | it checks every 0.0625 sec if weapon key is down and fires if so, and an event sets it to true/false when key is pressed/released |
| 22:35.13 | JademusSreg | Yes, that sounds appropriate. |
| 22:35.19 | A1win | in local tests it feels instantaneous |
| 22:35.28 | A1win | so it's just the latency |
| 22:36.58 | JademusSreg | Yar. I'm thinking projectile speed could use a boost, since that influences how long it takes to determine if the firing angle requires correction. |
| 22:37.26 | A1win | mm yeah |
| 22:39.17 | A1win | yeah should aim for more hits and less hits per damage |
| 22:39.28 | A1win | err |
| 22:39.31 | A1win | other way round perhaps :P |
| 22:39.51 | A1win | (less damage per hit) |
| 22:40.53 | JademusSreg | Yeah, haha. |
| 22:41.37 | JademusSreg | That also rewards skill, reduces luck, and provides an error margin without undermining the perception of accomplishment. |
| 22:41.58 | A1win | and most importantly, more bright shit on the screen |
| 22:42.04 | JademusSreg | Woo. |
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| 22:42.47 | JademusSreg | Hey, there's a good name for the map. |
| 22:42.52 | A1win | I wonder if it's be enough to only have two different jump strengths |
| 22:42.56 | JademusSreg | More Bright Shit On The Screen. |
| 22:42.58 | A1win | *it'd |
| 22:43.00 | A1win | haha |
| 22:43.21 | A1win | normal strength with click, and less strength with shift-click |
| 22:43.58 | A1win | or would it be desirable to allow scaling between min and max like it is now |
| 22:44.37 | A1win | or maybe allow the distance based scaling while holding shift |
| 22:44.49 | A1win | so kinda like a "pro mode" but readily available to anyone |
| 22:46.17 | JademusSreg | Distance based scaling by default seems most reasonable. |
| 22:46.48 | A1win | yeah I suppose, would just need to figure out how to make it clear to players how it works |
| 22:47.11 | A1win | I've had to explain it to pretty much everyone who's tested the map so far :P |
| 22:47.18 | DeadZergling | working hard on that project I see A1win. Should be amusing what reviews you get given the complexity |
| 22:47.57 | JademusSreg | A faint tracer beam or quad from the ship to the mouse. |
| 22:48.11 | A1win | I had that before, it just lags a lot |
| 22:48.22 | A1win | but I guess I'll try it by enabling it only while on a planet |
| 22:49.07 | JademusSreg | Yeah, might be informative for launches. |
| 22:57.58 | A1win | any way to change the cursor to a crosshair? |
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| 22:59.59 | Ahli | data has mouse cursor texture or something I believe |
| 23:00.23 | Ahli | or maybe just replace the default texture |
| 23:01.09 | A1win | ah, cursor data type |
| 23:03.01 | A1win | it changes it for the menus too though :< |
| 23:03.40 | Ahli | for the menus? |
| 23:03.47 | A1win | the F10 menu |
| 23:03.47 | Ahli | your dialogs within your map? |
| 23:03.50 | Ahli | ahk |
| 23:03.51 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:04.05 | A1win | oh well it's fine |
| 23:08.23 | A1win | yeah maybe this will work, made gravity harder and projectiles faster so that they still curve to gravity |
| 23:08.56 | A1win | and ships larger so that they are easier to hit |
| 23:10.29 | JademusSreg | Let me know when the next test has testers. Hate to wait passively in-lobby; the bnet interface eats CPU and makes my fans run loud. =D |
| 23:10.58 | A1win | mm |
| 23:21.34 | A1win | haha, I hadn't even noticed that you can use thrusters even when there is no fuel left |
| 23:22.22 | Fate__ | if u test now i am not in i want to run a test myself |
| 23:32.01 | Otixa_ | Ok, I'm officially present now ;p |
| 23:32.29 | Otixa_ | punches DeadZergling in the ass |
| 23:32.35 | Otixa_ | wut ya want |
| 23:33.00 | JademusSreg | Asspuncher: Enter, The Fist |
| 23:33.09 | DeadZergling | Oh, since you making the border, was wondering if you wanted to design the chat box and the 2 buttons below it as well |
| 23:33.14 | DeadZergling | so they you know, match, lol |
| 23:33.30 | Otixa_ | >:| |
| 23:33.37 | Otixa_ | punches DeadZergling in the ass again |
| 23:34.06 | DeadZergling | no biggy if not, was just asking :) |
| 23:34.16 | Otixa_ | We'll see once I finish that |
| 23:35.25 | DeadZergling | figured if anything else I can do creative copy/pasting any recoloring |
| 23:35.44 | DeadZergling | just things tend to mesh better when it is one artist doing it all, lol |
| 23:35.45 | Otixa_ | Here's the music of the now instead ;P |
| 23:35.46 | Otixa_ | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8MR9OH6BjOo |
| 23:36.25 | DeadZergling | wow, people actually like that kind of music? |
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| 23:37.32 | JademusSreg | http://youtu.be/0GLoHifu6aM |
| 23:38.18 | Otixa_ | shrugs |
| 23:38.48 | DeadZergling | just I've heard that band name a lot |
| 23:38.57 | DeadZergling | thought they'd be you know, good |
| 23:39.20 | DeadZergling | oh wait, yea.... |
| 23:39.39 | DeadZergling | well known musician != good |
| 23:40.25 | Otixa_ | eh, it's not too bad |
| 23:41.07 | JademusSreg | doesn't have the requisite knowledge to objectively evaluate musical quality, and instead listens to music it enjoys uncritically. |
| 23:41.28 | DeadZergling | music discussions are like artistic discussions |
| 23:41.33 | JademusSreg | Pointless. |
| 23:41.44 | DeadZergling | everyone has their own view, unwilling to waver to anyone else's view |
| 23:42.32 | DeadZergling | fun to troll those who don't realize this though. |
| 23:42.58 | DeadZergling | for example, go to a metallica site or something, and comment something like this: |
| 23:43.14 | DeadZergling | wow, song A was pretty awesome, it was almost as good as Justin Bieber's Boyfriend! |
| 23:43.25 | DeadZergling | Maybe they should take some advice from him? |
| 23:44.01 | A1win | yay, now the fuel bar border turns red when there's not enough fuel and the player tries to use thrusters |
| 23:44.37 | DeadZergling | changing bar colors! |
| 23:44.40 | DeadZergling | evil voodoo magic! |
| 23:45.04 | DeadZergling | useful though, do you have a yellow bar color for about halfway too? |
| 23:45.19 | A1win | nah the bar is the same color all the time |
| 23:45.28 | A1win | health bar has changing colors |
| 23:46.47 | A1win | I'll do that if it seems needed |
| 23:48.11 | DeadZergling | not all things are needed |
| 23:48.19 | DeadZergling | some things are just to make it look spiffy |
| 23:48.26 | DeadZergling | more practical, etc |
| 23:48.40 | A1win | yeah, but then it's needed for those things :P |
| 23:48.52 | DeadZergling | awesome example, vertical experience bar |
| 23:49.09 | JademusSreg | As taste is subjective, such arguments are categorically useless. And since I, personally, don't have any objective knowledge about music, I am not capable of meaningful arguments concerning music. So I don't talk about music. =D |
| 23:49.13 | DeadZergling | was fantastic having to move a dialog and the panel it is in |
| 23:49.20 | DeadZergling | to get the desired effect |
| 23:49.30 | JademusSreg | Yesss. |
| 23:49.37 | DeadZergling | but fact of the matter is, a vertical experience bar just looks cooler |
| 23:49.43 | DeadZergling | so I did it that way, lol |
| 23:50.14 | A1win | damn these pew pew lazors are fast now |
| 23:50.21 | JademusSreg | Woo. |
| 23:51.26 | DeadZergling | also been considering redoing some of the Necromancer summons |
| 23:51.46 | DeadZergling | it will make them less functional, but it would be so cool that people wouldn't mind, lol |
| 23:51.46 | JademusSreg | Got any player character bosses? |
| 23:52.03 | DeadZergling | instead of just summoning a pet |
| 23:52.11 | DeadZergling | have it come out of the ground over a couple seconds |
| 23:52.15 | DeadZergling | with flames all over |
| 23:52.22 | DeadZergling | as if just called from hell,lol |
| 23:52.35 | DeadZergling | what do you mean, player character bosses? |
| 23:53.25 | A1win | http://www.twitch.tv/a1win look D: |
| 23:54.24 | DeadZergling | faster is better typically, as long as the collision detection is looking good |
| 23:54.39 | DeadZergling | no good when shots travel through units, lol |
| 23:54.48 | JademusSreg | Rather like how in D&D, besides just fighting monsters from the Monster Manual, your GM would roll up a new character to fill the role of an antagonist. Like, oh shit, a high level Death Knight, with its own magical equipment and paladin+cleric abilities. |
| 23:54.55 | A1win | yeah I have it iterate 4 times per frame so it's pretty accurate |
| 23:55.45 | DeadZergling | well, is several main bosses, and about 4-6 minibosses per Area right now |
| 23:55.56 | DeadZergling | not sure if they would fit that type though Jade |
| 23:56.31 | JademusSreg | Player character enemies are pretty scary. Nicely done, A1. |
| 23:56.38 | JademusSreg | Watching the stream. |
| 23:57.16 | DeadZergling | well I'd register 4 of the 5 area 3 minibosses are pretty scary |
| 23:57.30 | DeadZergling | the white mage is pretty scary too if you don't know how her abilities work |
| 23:58.07 | A1win | hmm the laser is showing the jump angle, I should probably switch it to display the weapon angle |
| 23:58.15 | A1win | since it has wider maximum |
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