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| 00:39.45 | nooblark | sorry for the dc/s working on a script but i'm failing so bad |
| 00:39.50 | nooblark | lol |
| 00:40.23 | DeadZergling | good times eh? |
| 00:41.16 | nooblark | the mapster one is now working correctly |
| 00:41.24 | nooblark | now i'm trying a diff server oen |
| 00:42.13 | DeadZergling | I really need to start on my Area 3 monsters soon |
| 00:42.28 | DeadZergling | just keep finding myself playing some stupid game lately, lol |
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| 00:48.54 | nooblark | i give up |
| 00:50.37 | DeadZergling | work on something else |
| 00:50.48 | DeadZergling | solution to this problem might come to you later if you do that |
| 00:51.16 | nooblark | perhaps |
| 00:53.15 | DeadZergling | and even if not |
| 00:53.22 | DeadZergling | youll get something done at least, lol |
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| 02:12.26 | Kueken | sharks |
| 02:13.26 | DeadZergling | why do say sharks so often anyways Kueken? |
| 02:13.53 | Kueken | its a friendly greeting |
| 02:14.20 | Kueken | shark = "Hai" in german, which is pronounced "Hi" |
| 02:15.58 | Ahli | ohh that's why you keep saying that |
| 02:19.57 | Kueken | :p |
| 02:20.24 | Kueken | it might be stupid, but w/e |
| 02:20.33 | Kueken | sharks anyway |
| 02:20.59 | DeadZergling | glad I'm not the only one who didn't get that at all |
| 02:21.17 | Kueken | and Ahli is even german himself :D |
| 02:21.32 | Kueken | oh |
| 02:21.32 | DeadZergling | yea, well in english it means |
| 02:21.33 | Kueken | you too |
| 02:21.37 | DeadZergling | I am a freaking weirdo |
| 02:21.38 | egod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=734Qp7Cahac i think will change my music menu for this one |
| 02:21.43 | DeadZergling | but I'm in the channel! |
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| 02:22.15 | Kueken | well, that would probably be true as well |
| 02:22.57 | DeadZergling | anyways, I'm outta here, take it easy |
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| 02:28.31 | MoonEater | damn |
| 02:28.42 | MoonEater | anyone there? |
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| 02:34.28 | egod | i really like this remix ahli check this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=734Qp7Cahac |
| 02:36.56 | Kueken | What up, MoonPie? |
| 02:36.59 | Kueken | uhm |
| 02:37.01 | Kueken | MoonEater: |
| 02:37.22 | MoonEater | im having issues preloading banks within a mod |
| 02:37.26 | MoonEater | ive loaded banks before |
| 02:37.31 | MoonEater | but this time... i dont get it |
| 02:37.39 | Ahli | space in bank name? |
| 02:37.43 | Ahli | or special char? |
| 02:37.45 | MoonEater | no |
| 02:37.52 | MoonEater | no special chrs |
| 02:38.10 | Ahli | preload doesn't use variables... not for bank name and not for player |
| 02:38.24 | MoonEater | nope there r 16 lines |
| 02:38.41 | Ahli | maybe it has to be in the map... |
| 02:39.00 | MoonEater | i read this... |
| 02:39.07 | MoonEater | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/7931-bank-issue-with-mods/ |
| 02:39.10 | Ahli | preload is only adding a file to the map which tells sc2 which bank files to share during loading screen |
| 02:39.55 | MoonEater | ?? |
| 02:40.09 | Ahli | preload is no real trigger action |
| 02:40.23 | MoonEater | i know |
| 02:40.29 | MoonEater | i try adding to the mod preload |
| 02:40.30 | Ahli | it's a fake action just to create a file within the map that contains player number and bank name |
| 02:40.31 | MoonEater | modual |
| 02:40.42 | Ahli | so, just put it into the map |
| 02:40.49 | Ahli | it doesn't even need to be executed |
| 02:40.59 | MoonEater | im testing it on a dummy map |
| 02:41.11 | MoonEater | the editor is attaching it to a testmap with no terrain |
| 02:42.58 | MoonEater | using perferances |
| 02:47.22 | Kueken | all that Preload does is add an XML file to the map holding the bank names n stuff |
| 02:47.33 | MoonEater | ya thats great |
| 02:47.39 | MoonEater | now i need it to WORK! |
| 02:47.41 | Kueken | you can skip the trigger action all together and attach the XML file yourself |
| 02:48.06 | Kueken | to eliminate any potential issues with the action |
| 02:48.26 | Kueken | not sure how it interacts when you add the file to a mod instead of the map, though |
| 02:48.29 | MoonEater | how do attach it? |
| 02:48.41 | Kueken | it might not be intended to be used that way |
| 02:48.52 | Kueken | just import it using the import manager, I guess |
| 02:49.30 | Kueken | look up where it goes, how it is called and what its contents are by saving your map as a components list |
| 02:49.37 | MoonEater | lol |
| 02:49.40 | Kueken | you can probably just edit it yourself there |
| 02:49.43 | MoonEater | how do i find that? |
| 02:50.06 | Kueken | how to find the file or how to save as a component list? |
| 02:50.45 | Kueken | it is called probably something like BankPreload.xml or something |
| 02:50.47 | MoonEater | find it |
| 02:51.00 | Kueken | I assume it is in the root directory, shouldn't be hard to find |
| 02:51.35 | MoonEater | what program do i use to find it? |
| 02:51.39 | Kueken | if everything fails make a new empty map, add the preload action and see what changes |
| 02:51.53 | Kueken | no program |
| 02:52.07 | Kueken | savin in component list turns your map into a folder |
| 02:52.12 | Kueken | just open that folder |
| 02:53.14 | Kueken | to edit the actual file, you can use notepad, but to find it, you don't need any tools |
| 02:53.43 | MoonEater | wait im using import modual? |
| 02:54.15 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 02:54.19 | Kueken | yes |
| 02:54.26 | Kueken | later on to include it |
| 02:54.36 | Kueken | to find it, you don't need it |
| 02:54.43 | MoonEater | what? |
| 02:54.50 | Kueken | do you know how to save your map as a component list? |
| 02:54.51 | MoonEater | im getting more and more confused? |
| 02:54.55 | Kueken | and what it does? |
| 02:54.58 | MoonEater | oh |
| 02:55.00 | MoonEater | i get it |
| 02:55.22 | Kueken | the file is called BankList.xml, btw |
| 03:00.01 | MoonEater | if |
| 03:00.18 | MoonEater | i import banklist.xml |
| 03:00.29 | MoonEater | wont it ruin existing banklists? |
| 03:00.32 | MoonEater | this is a mod |
| 03:00.35 | MoonEater | so when i import |
| 03:00.39 | MoonEater | it wont work? |
| 03:02.57 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 03:03.39 | Kueken | not sure how it interacts when in a mod |
| 03:03.59 | Kueken | but there is no difference between adding the trigger action or importing the file |
| 03:04.10 | Kueken | just don't do both at :D |
| 03:04.15 | Kueken | *once |
| 03:04.22 | MoonEater | .... |
| 03:04.26 | MoonEater | i has bad feeling |
| 03:08.47 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 03:08.59 | MoonEater | cant import its reserved |
| 03:11.46 | Kueken | well, you can change it in the component list directly instead |
| 03:11.53 | MoonEater | ya |
| 03:11.56 | MoonEater | i got it working |
| 03:12.03 | MoonEater | just loading it iinto componets |
| 03:12.09 | MoonEater | ima test if it mods correctly |
| 03:12.11 | MoonEater | if all is well |
| 03:12.18 | MoonEater | ill update |
| 03:30.00 | MoonEater | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/editor-bugs-and-feedback/7931-bank-issue-with-mods/#p3 |
| 03:30.14 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 03:31.36 | Kueken | so the file within the mod actually works? |
| 03:39.28 | MoonEater | well not anymore |
| 03:39.31 | MoonEater | its fked up again |
| 03:40.52 | MoonEater | oh now its working sob... |
| 04:01.07 | Gluon | kueken you here bro? |
| 04:01.22 | Kueken | yep |
| 04:01.33 | Kueken | might take a minute to answer sometimes |
| 04:02.12 | Gluon | i just have a rly noob question |
| 04:02.20 | Gluon | i just want to change damage of the marine |
| 04:02.24 | Gluon | from 5 to 10 |
| 04:02.27 | Gluon | but cant figure out how |
| 04:03.13 | Kueken | data editor -> effects tab -> search for marine -> change the "Amount" for the damage effect |
| 04:03.28 | Kueken | I believe the effect is called "Guass Rifle (Damage) |
| 04:03.29 | Kueken | " |
| 04:03.36 | Kueken | but don't quote me on that :D |
| 04:04.33 | Gluon | got it |
| 04:04.35 | Gluon | tks so much |
| 04:04.51 | Gluon | i was looking into the weapons tab |
| 04:04.57 | Gluon | for c-14 gauss rifle |
| 04:06.09 | Kueken | yeah, I tried the same before :D |
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| 04:50.12 | Gluon | got another little question Kueken if you dont mind |
| 04:50.32 | Kueken | out with it |
| 04:50.50 | Gluon | im trying to set a condition "if player x supply is equal or less than... |
| 04:50.56 | Kueken | don't ask if I mind, this is a mapping channel designed to ask questions :D |
| 04:51.18 | Kueken | in data or triggers? |
| 04:51.22 | Gluon | cantrigger |
| 04:51.25 | Gluon | trigger |
| 04:51.38 | Kueken | check for "Player Property" |
| 04:51.53 | Kueken | I think you can select current supply there |
| 04:53.08 | Gluon | nice |
| 04:53.13 | Gluon | found it tks bro |
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| 05:25.39 | Gluon | is there a way to return a unit group that is all units owned of a particular unit type owned by a player without having to create variables? |
| 05:26.16 | Gluon | all units of a particular unit type owned by a player* |
| 05:28.23 | Gluon | thres the "find unit" function but it asks for a string..weird |
| 05:29.46 | Gluon | I wonder if I just type in the units type as a string if it will work |
| 05:35.55 | unclesatan | so you want |
| 05:36.05 | unclesatan | a unit group |
| 05:36.12 | unclesatan | that contains all units of a particular unit |
| 05:36.15 | unclesatan | type |
| 05:36.45 | unclesatan | nad yes |
| 05:36.51 | unclesatan | unittype is a string |
| 05:37.11 | unclesatan | i usually use type = UnitGetType(unit); |
| 05:37.17 | unclesatan | string type |
| 05:37.36 | unclesatan | but that's if you need to reference it later or change it, it makes it easier to use variables |
| 05:37.44 | unclesatan | also less typing |
| 05:37.46 | unclesatan | :p |
| 05:38.27 | unclesatan | http://cortexrp.com/starcraft/natives.galaxy |
| 05:38.40 | unclesatan | there's a great reference to all that, just search unitgroup and you can find anything you'd need to get it done |
| 05:39.10 | motive | yay someone used my link |
| 05:39.11 | motive | /success |
| 05:39.30 | Gluon | so you do I do that with the editors UI unclesatan ? |
| 05:39.41 | unclesatan | motive you gave it to me |
| 05:40.11 | unclesatan | oh you're using GUI |
| 05:40.26 | unclesatan | ? |
| 05:40.55 | unclesatan | gluon? |
| 05:41.03 | Gluon | yea |
| 05:41.09 | Gluon | im no hacker |
| 05:41.12 | Gluon | or programmer :P |
| 05:41.42 | unclesatan | lol |
| 05:41.46 | unclesatan | psh |
| 05:41.48 | unclesatan | well |
| 05:41.50 | unclesatan | hmmm |
| 05:42.00 | unclesatan | so it asks you for a string, yes the unit's type is a string and it should work |
| 05:42.19 | Gluon | so I just type "marine" |
| 05:42.22 | Gluon | and it should work? |
| 05:44.08 | unclesatan | it should |
| 05:44.08 | unclesatan | test it |
| 05:44.18 | unclesatan | if you view raw data in your data editor it shows you the string |
| 05:45.31 | Gluon | allright tks |
| 05:45.45 | Gluon | kinda weird that they dont just give a unit type list to select from |
| 05:56.06 | unclesatan | yeah right |
| 06:01.10 | unclesatan | that would be cool |
| 06:01.10 | unclesatan | but |
| 06:01.28 | unclesatan | that's why i just went to scripting instead cause i found an auto-complete for galaxyscript in notepad ++ |
| 06:02.40 | Kueken | does it support post-HotS natives? |
| 06:05.19 | MoonEater | does anyone have a formula |
| 06:05.42 | MoonEater | to find the possition of a dialog item within |
| 06:05.48 | MoonEater | screen |
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| 06:07.33 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 06:08.57 | Kueken | yes? |
| 06:10.35 | MoonEater | ping me lol |
| 06:10.36 | MoonEater | uh |
| 06:11.06 | MoonEater | i made a button i want script to activate on mouse down |
| 06:11.18 | MoonEater | however there is nothing that interacts directly with dialog items |
| 06:11.28 | MoonEater | but theres no mouse position fuctions |
| 06:11.43 | MoonEater | for dialog items |
| 06:12.32 | MoonEater | Kueken |
| 06:13.17 | Kueken | I don't follow |
| 06:14.07 | MoonEater | i want dialog on down click |
| 06:14.27 | Kueken | so you have a button, and you click on it |
| 06:15.08 | Kueken | and then what happens? |
| 06:15.16 | MoonEater | script runs |
| 06:15.23 | MoonEater | i want on press down |
| 06:15.50 | Kueken | so you are asking how to make something happen when you press a specific dialog button? |
| 06:15.59 | MoonEater | but for down |
| 06:16.06 | MoonEater | its a drag box |
| 06:16.28 | MoonEater | i need to recongize when a player is dragging a box |
| 06:16.53 | Kueken | ah, so the mouse needs to be held down |
| 06:17.28 | MoonEater | exactly |
| 06:18.22 | Kueken | well, there are events checking clicks and releases, you could set up variables changing according to these events |
| 06:18.40 | Kueken | same with the coordinates |
| 06:19.35 | Kueken | then just run a loop which breaks when the mouse button is released, aka when the variable you assigned for it gets changed to its original state |
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| 06:20.05 | MoonEater | yes |
| 06:20.11 | MoonEater | i know |
| 06:20.21 | MoonEater | but i need to verify it with the location of the dialog item |
| 06:20.37 | MoonEater | and there is no easy way to do that |
| 06:21.19 | Kueken | there should be something like Mouse UI position |
| 06:23.39 | MoonEater | for the sreen not dialog |
| 06:30.26 | Kueken | well, the dialog is on the screen |
| 06:30.34 | Kueken | they are related somehow |
| 06:34.01 | unclesatan | Kueken I don't think it does suport the HotS natives, it might though. |
| 06:34.07 | unclesatan | give me a native and i'll try |
| 06:35.50 | Kueken | native void BankSectionCreate (bank b, string section); |
| 06:36.24 | unclesatan | nope |
| 06:36.38 | unclesatan | that would explain a few of my stumps in the road of scripting lol |
| 06:47.05 | Thrasque | Kueken, how about Der Junge? |
| 06:47.13 | Thrasque | Der Junge gibt Dem Jungen den Jungen? |
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| 07:24.10 | Gluon | guys I cahnged the buttons on a building but they dont show up when I test the map |
| 07:24.20 | Gluon | i see no buttons at all now :/ |
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| 08:02.50 | Kueken | Gluon: copy the XML data to pastebin and post the link here |
| 08:03.36 | Gluon | http://pastebin.com/DzN0LCxi |
| 08:05.51 | Kueken | which building is the one malfunctioning? |
| 08:10.15 | Gluon | the fusion core |
| 08:10.37 | Gluon | I need it to have all the buttons I added |
| 08:10.43 | Gluon | they dont show up in game though :/ |
| 08:10.45 | Kueken | it seems that you didn't set a type for the buttons |
| 08:10.54 | Kueken | you need to set them to ability |
| 08:11.20 | Kueken | and also select, which command of the ability to execute |
| 08:12.20 | Gluon | ok ill try |
| 08:13.02 | Kueken | to clarify, this is done in the command card menu for the units |
| 08:13.09 | Kueken | not in the buttons tab |
| 08:16.08 | Gluon | also I have no idea why this condition doesnt work |
| 08:16.08 | Gluon | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:16.30 | Gluon | i just want it to spawn units only if the supply limit isnt reached |
| 08:16.39 | Gluon | but somehow this doesnt work |
| 08:16.46 | Gluon | they still spawn |
| 08:16.49 | Zolden | mua ha ha |
| 08:17.44 | Gluon | tks |
| 08:19.32 | Zolden | Kueken could you please remind me, what "transient preferred" flag mean in abil? |
| 08:20.28 | Kueken | Gluon: maybe you use "Picked Player" out of context? It is only supposed to be used in a "Pick each player in player group" loop |
| 08:21.01 | Gluon | its in a pick each player from player group loop |
| 08:21.12 | Kueken | Zolden: It is for targeted abilities, if you select a point out of range, the unit will move to the point and cast it instead of giving an error message |
| 08:21.33 | Kueken | so its not really transient anymore in this case, because it interrupts the order |
| 08:22.15 | Kueken | Gluon: Make the game print the numbers as a text message |
| 08:22.28 | Kueken | the player, their current supply and their limit |
| 08:24.27 | Gluon | http://pastebin.com/gLj247TW |
| 08:24.39 | Gluon | oh |
| 08:24.44 | Gluon | yea |
| 08:24.48 | Gluon | ill do that i guess |
| 08:25.45 | Gluon | or is there another way to set a supply condition? |
| 08:25.49 | Gluon | maybe i can just change it |
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| 08:28.21 | Kueken | are you aware that the supply limit is the maximum supply a player can have at all? |
| 08:28.24 | Kueken | as in 200? |
| 08:28.38 | Kueken | it is not the supply he can currently use |
| 08:29.26 | Gluon | o rly |
| 08:29.37 | Gluon | then what is the current supply limit? |
| 08:29.41 | Gluon | at any point |
| 08:30.01 | Gluon | sorry im rusty i guess |
| 08:30.42 | Gluon | ill try supply made |
| 08:34.23 | Gluon | thanks Kueken it worked |
| 08:34.52 | Gluon | i was sure "supplies made" sounded like total supply in unit built during the whole game added up |
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| 08:44.43 | Thrasque | Kueken, , liar: <vlt> Thrasque: No, thats wrong. |
| 08:44.43 | Thrasque | <vlt> Thrasque: Accusative of Mensch is Menschen and its used that way. |
| 08:44.43 | Thrasque | <vlt> Ich sehe den Menschen. |
| 08:44.43 | Thrasque | <vlt> Ich sage dem Menschen,
. |
| 08:44.50 | Thrasque | Kueken, you lied again |
| 08:45.44 | Zolden | Thrasque hitler lied too when he said that ussr will be conqured in a few months |
| 08:46.10 | Thrasque | Zolden, liar. |
| 08:46.14 | Thrasque | Lieger des Menschen |
| 08:48.46 | Kueken | you said "Ich gebe dem Menschen einen Menschen" |
| 08:49.04 | Kueken | the first "Menschen" is your accusative, and therefore correct |
| 08:49.36 | Kueken | the second one was the one I was talking about yesterday |
| 08:50.20 | Kueken | but if you want to go on a Liar-streak again, feel free to |
| 08:57.03 | Thrasque | Kueken, could I intrest you into joining ##Deutsch? |
| 08:57.09 | Thrasque | Now I'm confused |
| 09:00.56 | Kueken | I might be wrong |
| 09:01.39 | Kueken | german grammar is hard |
| 09:03.34 | Zolden | anyone knows any functions to estimate waves power? |
| 09:03.50 | Zolden | we know number of units, their dps and hp |
| 09:04.04 | Zolden | will simply multiplication reflect wawe's power? |
| 09:05.48 | Kueken | depends |
| 09:06.24 | Kueken | for example, if some unit has x hp but 10x damage, it will count about as much as a unit with 3x hp and 3x damage |
| 09:06.42 | Kueken | but arguably a 10x damage unit would be more dangerous? |
| 09:07.03 | Zolden | yea |
| 09:07.09 | Kueken | also spellcasters etc? |
| 09:07.16 | Zolden | yea |
| 09:07.34 | Kueken | I would rather assign thread levels per unit type |
| 09:08.12 | Kueken | maybe costs are an indication |
| 09:08.28 | Zolden | my waves won't have costs |
| 09:08.31 | Kueken | berserker equals 2 marines, equals 4 zerglings |
| 09:08.43 | Zolden | what's berserker? |
| 09:08.43 | Kueken | k |
| 09:08.44 | Zolden | hots unit? |
| 09:08.46 | Kueken | sry |
| 09:08.48 | Kueken | zealot |
| 09:08.59 | Kueken | its german translation |
| 09:08.59 | Zolden | lol |
| 09:09.11 | Zolden | understandable |
| 09:10.14 | Zolden | in russian editor actor is agent, because actor would sound nothing but theatrically |
| 09:11.32 | Zolden | ok, will estimate intuitively, as usual |
| 09:42.22 | Zolden | what abil stage is good for triggering beam actor's create? Source Cast Start? |
| 09:51.04 | Zolden | Kueken u'r here, right? |
| 09:51.35 | Kueken | partly |
| 09:51.56 | Kueken | I usually don't use ability stages, since they cannot use the At term |
| 09:52.15 | Zolden | ok, i can do what would work |
| 09:52.21 | Zolden | i just worgot the proper way ;/ |
| 09:52.29 | Kueken | I mostly go for effects, a persistent perhaps |
| 09:52.39 | Zolden | tried this: http://pastebin.com/0RsyncxK |
| 09:52.53 | Zolden | but it created beam from origin to origin of caster |
| 09:53.25 | Kueken | yeah, the abil events don't carry over target scope information, it seems |
| 09:53.32 | Zolden | ok, i'll try effect |
| 09:54.15 | Kueken | also you might want to set the subjects for both launch and impact to selectable |
| 09:56.30 | Zolden | ty, it worked :) |
| 09:59.00 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/fab5q.jpg |
| 10:00.37 | Zolden | will be td based on squad td fight mechanics |
| 10:12.34 | Zolden | G0A set scale absolute worked for me too |
| 10:32.10 | Zolden | how generally people make AOE component of damage to not affect target once more? |
| 10:32.18 | unclesatan | markers |
| 10:32.22 | Zolden | i mean if damage has unit as target |
| 10:32.29 | unclesatan | like chain lightning? |
| 10:32.35 | Zolden | like fireball |
| 10:32.40 | unclesatan | like if you didn't want chain lightning to hit a unit twice |
| 10:33.16 | Zolden | like i don't want aoe component of fireball to affect damage target which consumed the not aoe component |
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| 10:33.33 | unclesatan | make the damage target do no daamage |
| 10:33.43 | unclesatan | just effect |
| 10:33.58 | Zolden | aoe is a fraction of main damage |
| 10:34.10 | Zolden | so i need it not zero |
| 10:34.49 | unclesatan | i think you can make the aoe radius do 0 damage in small range |
| 10:35.19 | unclesatan | i'm not sure how you'd do that, but in the data editor when you make an aoe effect theres |
| 10:35.26 | unclesatan | a couple radius options |
| 10:36.49 | Zolden | looks like common way is exclude target |
| 10:38.42 | Kueken | yes |
| 10:38.54 | Kueken | was about to suggest the same |
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| 10:55.04 | G0A | Zolden I have some ideas for squad td like td.D |
| 10:56.26 | G0A | is it solo project? |
| 11:00.07 | Zolden | G0A under solo you mean that i work alone on it? yes |
| 11:00.49 | Zolden | what kind of ideas? |
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| 11:15.41 | G0A | hmm do I need a skip remaining actions in a function after return or return really does skip the remaining actions? |
| 11:16.21 | G0A | Zolden you could make it very random td like:) |
| 11:18.31 | Zolden | G0A I think it skips |
| 11:18.42 | G0A | Zolden but a somekind of random terrain would be nice |
| 11:18.43 | G0A | Zolden also you could add general upgrades for all single units like in NSS |
| 11:19.03 | Zolden | and it will have randomness, for example, players will have to mine different resources, but they are spread randomly |
| 11:19.30 | Zolden | maybe i'll addd additional upgrades |
| 11:21.58 | G0A | thats not really random |
| 11:22.06 | G0A | it will only randomize the income |
| 11:22.10 | G0A | but not the gameplay |
| 11:22.42 | Zolden | income affects set of towers, there are 7 different resources, and different tower classes require different resources |
| 11:23.13 | G0A | that sounds complicated:D |
| 11:23.43 | Zolden | yea, it will be |
| 11:23.45 | G0A | you could randomize waves too |
| 11:23.58 | Zolden | most probably i will |
| 12:00.32 | Kueken | o_0 |
| 12:00.38 | Kueken | youtube has 144p now |
| 12:00.43 | Kueken | why? |
| 12:00.56 | Kueken | for micro smartphones? |
| 12:03.05 | halides | for science! |
| 12:05.11 | Zolden | maybe ppl from the past watching it with modems? |
| 12:05.17 | Kueken | for SPARTA! |
| 12:05.29 | Zolden | for 4 |
| 12:05.37 | Kueken | needs 300p in this case |
| 12:05.58 | Kueken | also 666p and 42p |
| 12:07.41 | Zolden | will jesus videos work on 666p? |
| 12:09.51 | Kueken | they will trigger apocalypse when at 1337 views |
| 12:18.55 | Thrasque | kueken des Menschen |
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| 13:29.14 | Ahli | I really should make my fake projectiles not have a projectile flag :S then I would see the error message at the start of the game telling me why the custom death doesn't work |
| 13:40.52 | Thrasque | Ahli, warum liebt A1win mich nicht mehr? |
| 13:41.24 | Thrasque | Ahli, you know what a German is called in Finnish? A saksalainen |
| 15:16.06 | Zolden | XboxOne_ saw this guy? http://i.snag.gy/qgINi.jpg |
| 15:16.18 | XboxOne_ | y |
| 15:17.45 | Zolden | XboxOne_ have any wall-related screens? |
| 15:18.16 | XboxOne_ | no |
| 15:19.16 | Zolden | what are you doing there? |
| 15:24.20 | XboxOne_ | some other shit |
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| 15:33.27 | Zolden | XboxOne_ mapping shit or real life shit? |
| 15:33.46 | XboxOne_ | shit real and some other internet activities |
| 15:34.29 | Zolden | when will internet activities become real life? |
| 15:34.37 | Zolden | or it has become yet |
| 15:36.19 | XboxOne_ | i mean both stuff interacts and makes not enough time for the requested stuff to do |
| 15:36.41 | XboxOne_ | *meant ! |
| 15:40.23 | Zolden | XboxOne_ do u plan to create a new cool map or will keep doing aok or quit mapping or haven't decided? |
| 15:41.24 | XboxOne_ | well a lot of concpets i have . |
| 15:42.06 | Zolden | may I have an example? |
| 15:42.18 | Zolden | or axemple if it's again something medieval |
| 15:43.36 | XboxOne_ | yeah something medieval with different gameplay, like settlers, like conquer soemthing stuff |
| 15:43.46 | XboxOne_ | 2 concpets that currently i remember doing |
| 15:44.13 | Zolden | have you ever played caesar III ? |
| 15:45.28 | XboxOne_ | yes few weeks ago started playing it again |
| 15:45.53 | Zolden | great game, isn't it? |
| 15:46.11 | Zolden | played it last summer |
| 15:46.12 | XboxOne_ | pretty nice |
| 15:46.30 | Zolden | it's a good example of a strategy with decentralized control |
| 15:46.52 | Zolden | you create condition, system evolves |
| 15:47.17 | Zolden | i hope it's a part of your settlers conception, i'd played it |
| 15:47.54 | XboxOne_ | no its more about resource management would be |
| 15:48.25 | XboxOne_ | like settlers or knights and merchants |
| 15:48.45 | Dustin | What the fuck |
| 15:48.46 | Dustin | http://www.staredit.net/topic/14226/ |
| 15:48.52 | Zolden | ok, and when do you hope to finish it? |
| 15:49.19 | Dustin | I didn't know people were still fuckign with SC1 mapping, now I find out about these awesome EPD,EUD discoverys and it blows my mind |
| 15:50.27 | XboxOne_ | Zolden never :D |
| 15:52.56 | Zolden | Dustin i think a zergling bit that guy |
| 15:53.47 | Zolden | XboxOne_ when "never" is an answer? never! |
| 15:55.57 | Dustin | I hope your name is XboxOne because you hate the system |
| 15:56.00 | Ahli | EPD started after I quit scbw mapmaking |
| 15:56.29 | XboxOne_ | well i may find time to make some progress for all my maps, improve them but they wont be finished anytime, they seem will always be lacking something and will have where to improve |
| 15:56.45 | Dustin | Yeah last new thing to comeout when I stopped was Using Defiler Swarm as an abiltiy cast point |
| 15:57.49 | Ahli | ^^ with EUD/EPD you can make: http://www.staredit.net/topic/10836/ |
| 15:58.03 | Ahli | read data from the game that you don't normally have |
| 15:58.51 | Dustin | Yeah I was reading about it, super cool shit |
| 15:59.06 | Dustin | I wish we would have known about this when I was big into sc1 mapping |
| 15:59.16 | Dustin | Would have made my Turn Based RPG a lot easier to make lol |
| 16:00.32 | Ahli | other cool things: binary countoffs (math using only plus and minus), mobile grids (create units, remove units, center location, remove units, repeat -> moves locations around), inverted locations for movement detection (top left and bottom right point of a location is reversed and the size of the location is made tiny to only find a unit when it's touching all 4 edges at the same time) |
| 16:01.02 | Ahli | a way to caclulate where a player clicked by ordering 2 scourges around |
| 16:01.22 | Ahli | (calculates point depending on the pixels the scourges moved) |
| 16:01.39 | Ahli | a system that allows you to move a location to any point in the map |
| 16:02.19 | Ahli | that thing works because of locations are offset of the map borders |
| 16:03.27 | Ahli | stopping units from moving/"freeze" them by constantly moving them to a location where they can't be placed (location outside the map or bottom right corner) |
| 16:04.19 | Ahli | hallucinated powerups can make workers carry a unit like a marine |
| 16:05.30 | Ahli | hmmm, I think these are all the tricks I know... disabling bunkers, moving bunkers away to make units shoot out of thin air |
| 16:08.08 | Zolden | sc1 mapping sounds like hell for me |
| 16:08.16 | Zolden | same with wc3 mapping |
| 16:08.36 | Ahli | workaround, workaround workaround... that's scbw mapmaking |
| 16:09.05 | Zolden | yea, i saw an example, that was THAT UGLY, it's was warkaround^10 |
| 16:09.51 | Zolden | absurd fest was it |
| 16:10.12 | Zolden | like if hitler would use penis-shaped missiles to bombard UK |
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| 16:10.31 | Jan_Flounders | Two Germans talking |
| 16:10.34 | Zolden | egod so, got that banshee? |
| 16:10.43 | Jan_Flounders | Evidently it's einen Menschen |
| 16:10.50 | egod | youre done with it? |
| 16:11.01 | Zolden | it's published |
| 16:11.03 | Zolden | check assets |
| 16:11.06 | Jan_Flounders | Ich gib' Adolf Hilter einen Judemenschen |
| 16:11.58 | Zolden | interesting, is there somwhere in the world a person whos first name is Jesus and second name is Hitler? |
| 16:13.17 | Jan_Flounders | Zolden, how do you decline names anyway? |
| 16:13.24 | Jan_Flounders | Like say your name is Otto Flick |
| 16:13.30 | Jan_Flounders | Do you then say der Phallus Ottos Flicks |
| 16:13.34 | Jan_Flounders | or Der Phallus Otto Flicks? |
| 16:14.04 | egod | alright cool |
| 16:14.13 | egod | will probably use it next week |
| 16:14.19 | egod | im building Part2 next week so |
| 16:17.21 | Zolden | egod i recommend to check my other assets and pick some units to replace the wow untis you use, if it's possible. Mine have normal/specular maps, it look better than dull models without |
| 16:17.37 | egod | link the page |
| 16:18.00 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/home/ |
| 16:18.20 | egod | not working |
| 16:18.47 | Zolden | oh |
| 16:18.48 | Zolden | right |
| 16:19.02 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/wowmodelswithnormalsspecs/ |
| 16:19.08 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/wowmonsters/ |
| 16:20.08 | egod | hm |
| 16:22.08 | egod | interesting |
| 16:41.29 | Kueken | http://www.diablofans.com/topic/96182-did-he-died/ |
| 16:42.02 | Kueken | seems ProzaicMuze has some serious health problems |
| 16:42.30 | Kueken | thats sad, I found most of his mapping guides to be extremely helpful, especially when I started |
| 16:45.32 | Zolden | yea |
| 16:48.49 | G0A | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:50.31 | egod | look boring |
| 16:53.27 | XboxOne_ | http://www.strongholdcrusader2.com/?page_id=7 |
| 16:54.37 | egod | better |
| 16:54.51 | egod | stronghold is the best (castle style) game i played |
| 16:54.58 | egod | long time ago |
| 16:58.50 | Jan_Flounders | Kueken, das Küken, des Kükens, dem Küken, das Kuken, die Küken, der Küken, den Küken, die Küken |
| 16:59.27 | Zolden | Jan_Flounders do you make maps for sc2? |
| 17:00.19 | Jan_Flounders | Zolden, yah |
| 17:00.21 | Jan_Flounders | surprised much? |
| 17:00.45 | Zolden | yah |
| 17:03.35 | Jan_Flounders | Zolden, you like: http://imgur.com/a/jLJLu#0 |
| 17:06.09 | egod | horrible |
| 17:06.14 | egod | ;) |
| 17:07.19 | XboxOne_ | yeah pretty horrible design |
| 17:09.39 | Dustin | I don't think an XboxOne can comment on horrible design |
| 17:09.50 | Dustin | That's a little bit too ironic |
| 17:09.58 | egod | pwned! |
| 17:11.36 | egod | funny thing about Xboxone: it use Windows XP platform .... wait a minute...windows XP ? 7 years old platform ? maybe im wrong, but that is funny |
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| 17:30.06 | egod | Battle.net question: Do you think its possible to use Crossed-Map Bankfile via 2x Different account ? Or is it possible to have 2xAccount on the same (Battle.net log in) i think yes ? anyone know ? |
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| 17:31.41 | egod | so when i publish a map on Account 1: My ID stay the same on Account 2: cause both are linked to 1xLog in ? |
| 17:32.39 | XboxOne_ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71H69yDZ6W4 |
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| 17:43.09 | Jan_Flounders | egod, you don't like it? |
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| 18:09.37 | egod | ok nice, i just release someting in Diablo2 |
| 18:09.43 | egod | 13 years later |
| 18:09.48 | nooblark | i'm playing d2 |
| 18:09.51 | nooblark | what did you do? :O |
| 18:10.45 | egod | so, if a player stay in a (zone) like, Meph, and people leave the game, the monster (meph) still have X life and X damage based on the number of player in the game, UNTILL YOU LEAVE THE ZONE |
| 18:10.59 | egod | that mean, if people leave the game, zone in and zone out |
| 18:11.13 | egod | monster is more easy this way |
| 18:12.29 | nooblark | okay? |
| 18:12.55 | egod | ya okay! |
| 18:12.57 | egod | :) |
| 18:13.07 | egod | you play d2 ? |
| 18:13.12 | egod | check this out then http://thecurseoftristram.com/ |
| 18:13.54 | G0A | Zolden only in Russia: http://indavideo.hu/video/Eki_fail :) |
| 18:14.51 | G0A | I feel lots of gif potential in this video. |
| 18:16.35 | nooblark | yes |
| 18:19.56 | nooblark | that's nice |
| 18:21.14 | Deaod | im not understanding a thing ... so im just watching a guy make weird faces |
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| 18:28.06 | Zolden | lol, it's russian jim kerrey |
| 18:36.00 | XboxOne_ | CnC http://youtu.be/80_x6bmzluc |
| 18:38.25 | Zolden | hmm |
| 18:38.30 | Zolden | didn't make me excited |
| 18:38.36 | Zolden | look cheap |
| 18:38.47 | G0A | yah |
| 18:38.49 | G0A | yeah |
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| 18:57.56 | XboxOne_ | http://snag.gy/jK03G.jpg |
| 18:58.04 | G0A | hehe now BF playing the COD game too, they will just build every new game on the same engine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IERlFsEtrXI |
| 18:58.26 | XboxOne_ | that was made yesterday.. today will try make more of human skeleton bones, like ribs, skull |
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| 19:00.27 | Zolden | XboxOne_ jsut use wow meshes |
| 19:00.40 | XboxOne_ | and now |
| 19:00.42 | XboxOne_ | no |
| 19:00.43 | XboxOne_ | NO |
| 19:00.48 | Zolden | how about yes |
| 19:00.54 | XboxOne_ | nahhh |
| 19:00.57 | XboxOne_ | just now |
| 19:01.01 | XboxOne_ | NOW |
| 19:01.01 | Ahli | destructible buildings... nice |
| 19:01.05 | XboxOne_ | fuck so much NOW |
| 19:01.12 | Zolden | now what |
| 19:01.52 | DeadZergling | xboxone_ = twodie? |
| 19:02.00 | XboxOne_ | no |
| 19:02.06 | XboxOne_ | im PS4! |
| 19:02.29 | DeadZergling | and I'm Gary Oldman |
| 19:02.30 | egod | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:02.33 | Zolden | he's today |
| 19:02.35 | DeadZergling | good to meet you, liar :P |
| 19:02.39 | egod | I wonder how Chinese people feel about their land being destroyed in a virtual game by North Amercians? |
| 19:03.42 | Zolden | egod they'll just pee in iphones they assembly |
| 19:04.08 | Zolden | but they won't know, no youtube for them |
| 19:05.38 | XboxOne_ | or FB |
| 19:09.29 | Zolden | sure no FB for them, asians have small boobs and small penises, so it's technically problematic to fuck boobs |
| 19:10.35 | DeadZergling | okay, I'm failing to see how you link no FB to small body parts |
| 19:11.30 | Zolden | fuck boobs |
| 19:12.29 | DeadZergling | I see, saw that about 20 seconds ago, but statements like that force me to face palm for a time before responding |
| 19:13.28 | Zolden | face palms are not healthy |
| 19:17.20 | DeadZergling | Hello by the way JademusSreg, was wondering where you dissapeared to. Saw you around every day then poof you were gone. |
| 19:20.29 | Zolden | it's an imposter |
| 19:20.52 | DeadZergling | naw, real Jade was quiet much of the time too |
| 19:22.26 | DeadZergling | kudos to you Jade by the way for starting a whole new project for the contest, unlike some others who obviously just crapped the cloud logo in there, lol. |
| 19:22.51 | nooblark | contest? :P |
| 19:23.35 | DeadZergling | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292 |
| 19:23.41 | DeadZergling | ended 4-5 days ago |
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| 19:32.18 | Ahli | I should have just pasted the logo into my map somewhere visible for a week |
| 19:33.09 | Zolden | Ahli for example, replace diablo model |
| 19:33.26 | Ahli | diablo isn't in the playable areas, yet |
| 19:33.36 | egod | you got a diablo model ? |
| 19:33.50 | Zolden | egod there is diablo model in sc2 |
| 19:33.52 | Ahli | D3 model without death animation |
| 19:34.04 | egod | ahh, i got the same :( |
| 19:34.13 | Zolden | does it have normal/specular maps? |
| 19:34.25 | Ahli | yes |
| 19:34.31 | Zolden | thanks god |
| 19:34.33 | Zolden | :)) |
| 19:34.39 | Ahli | first monster/hero unit that has that in my map :X |
| 19:38.45 | DeadZergling | yea, I'm sure cloud spokes would have meshed real well into your diablo map Ahli :P |
| 19:39.28 | DeadZergling | no one woulda suspected it was just slapped in there, they would have thought the entire map was built just for it |
| 19:39.40 | Ahli | indeed |
| 19:40.10 | DeadZergling | because I'm sure not one of those 3 judges ever played diablo, lol |
| 19:41.38 | DeadZergling | I was expecting to see some well developed maps with cloud logos in there somehow, and get blown away to be honest. |
| 19:42.05 | DeadZergling | What I saw...... a copy paste button icon in a map that obviously had nothing to do w/ cloud spokes in anyway |
| 19:42.31 | DeadZergling | Edited to be white and slow water and the change elevation tool to make cloudy like shapes |
| 19:42.48 | DeadZergling | and a map's geometry based on the logo |
| 19:43.06 | egod | i made 2.65$ this month for the total of view of my youtube video! will be ricccchh! well...not really :( |
| 19:43.50 | DeadZergling | I was really surprised someone went w/ the terrain like the logo idea. |
| 19:44.03 | egod | lol |
| 19:44.18 | DeadZergling | woot, you can get 2 items off the value menu and Jack in the Box egod! |
| 19:44.29 | DeadZergling | *at Jack in the Box |
| 19:45.47 | DeadZergling | I quickly decided terrain like the logo would be hard to see, and flaws would be impossible to avoid if it was easily viewable. |
| 19:46.28 | DeadZergling | and my terraining skills SUCK anyways |
| 19:50.41 | Zolden | DeadZergling god's terraining skills are also suck, so he decided to implement terrain generation |
| 20:01.22 | Zolden | Ahli you too could check wow models I published and replace some of your monsters |
| 20:20.47 | DeadZergling | one of those wow models sure looks like a skinless zergling |
| 20:20.52 | Jan_Flounders | Der Zolden, Des Zoldens, Dem Zolden, Den Zolden |
| 20:20.59 | Jan_Flounders | Die Zolden, Der Zolden, Den Zolden, Die Zolden |
| 20:40.51 | XboxOne_ | fat americans work out: http://youtu.be/cW28VSmXnCo |
| 20:51.01 | Zolden | need more fuck you's |
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| 21:16.48 | Lepton | hey guys is there a quick way to make upgrade reseraches stack up ? |
| 21:17.09 | Lepton | like you research the upgrade the first time it costs 100 for lvl 1 |
| 21:17.14 | Lepton | then the price is 200 for lvl 2 |
| 21:17.17 | Lepton | etc.. |
| 21:17.23 | Lepton | but the button stays the same |
| 21:19.52 | Lepton | I found how to make it stackable by changing the "(basic) max level) |
| 21:20.02 | Lepton | but cant find how to increment its cost |
| 21:25.40 | Jan_Flounders | Der Zolden gibt dem Zolden den Zolden des Zoldens |
| 21:25.41 | Lepton | :/ |
| 21:26.01 | Jan_Flounders | Der Zolden ist dem Zolden sein Zolden |
| 21:26.54 | Zolden | Lepton for cost increment I'd create different upgrades |
| 21:27.04 | Zolden | or do it trigger way |
| 21:27.20 | Zolden | change tooltip cost, check if player has enough money |
| 21:27.44 | Lepton | with trigers eh |
| 21:27.46 | Lepton | ok ill try |
| 21:30.46 | Zolden | data is better |
| 21:31.10 | Zolden | triggers are only ok if you have millions of levels |
| 21:31.27 | Zolden | and you wouldn't create milions of upgrades |
| 21:36.35 | Lepton | i have like 35 levels :/ |
| 21:36.41 | Lepton | i think ill go with trigers |
| 21:36.52 | Lepton | i cnt find the trigger to change upgrade cost though |
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| 21:43.12 | Zolden | Lepton you need to have a dummy abil, after every use/select you will need to update tooltip via catalog |
| 21:43.42 | Zolden | if player uses the dummy abil, you need to start to research the real upgrade, and modify cost |
| 21:43.49 | Zolden | if he cancels, you return money |
| 21:43.52 | Zolden | all that stuff |
| 21:44.02 | Lepton | shit its hard |
| 21:44.05 | Zolden | but 35 upgrades worth doing it |
| 21:44.08 | Lepton | maybe ill just make a billion buttons |
| 21:44.20 | Zolden | don't, it works gay, i have tried |
| 21:44.26 | Lepton | lol |
| 21:53.13 | Jan_Flounders | Zolden, what did you think of my map? |
| 21:54.17 | Zolden | map is gameplay, i don't care about terrains |
| 21:54.23 | Zolden | so nothin |
| 22:09.07 | Lepton | lol |
| 22:10.34 | egod | what was the best compagny between: Westwood Studio, Blizzard North and Rare (N64), all three? |
| 22:42.07 | Zolden | westwood |
| 22:42.44 | Zolden | but Big Huge Games were gods of rts |
| 22:43.51 | egod | they made what? |
| 22:45.10 | Zolden | Rse Of Nations |
| 22:45.14 | Zolden | Rise Of Legends |
| 22:45.22 | egod | ah |
| 22:46.21 | Zolden | their publisher was microsoft, and theyined it |
| 22:46.26 | Zolden | ruined |
| 22:50.53 | Lepton | guys how do you modify a units range with triggers? |
| 22:52.09 | DeadZergling | catalogs |
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| 22:53.46 | DeadZergling | let me find a more exact line of script |
| 22:54.00 | Lepton | would be great tks |
| 22:55.30 | Zolden | just go catalog -> set value, pick weapon, range |
| 22:55.40 | DeadZergling | well then, isn't in the area I thought :P |
| 22:55.42 | DeadZergling | anyways |
| 22:55.53 | DeadZergling | are you at the editor now, lepton? |
| 22:56.02 | Zolden | or you can do it with upgrades or buffs |
| 22:56.06 | Lepton | yeup DeadZergling |
| 22:56.21 | DeadZergling | first of all, find a function named something like catalog field value set |
| 22:56.29 | DeadZergling | just look up catalog in actions |
| 22:56.33 | DeadZergling | it will be pretty obvious |
| 22:56.37 | Lepton | got it |
| 22:56.40 | Lepton | now what? |
| 22:56.56 | Lepton | behaviors? |
| 22:56.58 | DeadZergling | okay, need to select weapons |
| 22:57.05 | DeadZergling | no, not a behavior, you need to pick weapon |
| 22:57.37 | Lepton | oh k |
| 22:57.44 | DeadZergling | then youll pick the appropriate weapon from a list, forget which tab that was, is the tab with a lot of them, lol |
| 22:58.07 | DeadZergling | is really just a matter of picking the right values |
| 22:58.18 | DeadZergling | you can cheat too by opening the weapon in data at the same time |
| 22:58.34 | DeadZergling | tell you exactly waht is what in raw data mode |
| 22:59.05 | Lepton | nice i think it worked |
| 22:59.19 | Lepton | yea tahts what i did |
| 22:59.22 | Lepton | thanks so much |
| 22:59.26 | Lepton | wouldnt have found it alone |
| 22:59.39 | DeadZergling | no problem, just do something similar if you want to change values like that in triggers again |
| 22:59.50 | Lepton | ok |
| 23:00.00 | DeadZergling | for a behaviors duration, a damage effect's damage, whatever :) |
| 23:00.37 | Lepton | only problem though |
| 23:00.45 | Lepton | it asks for a string as range |
| 23:00.55 | DeadZergling | yea that's fine |
| 23:00.57 | Lepton | I just put the number in there? |
| 23:01.02 | DeadZergling | just give it 8.0 or whatever as a string |
| 23:01.12 | Lepton | ill have to find the math to string convertion |
| 23:01.16 | DeadZergling | or FixedToString(mynewvalue) |
| 23:01.47 | DeadZergling | is a whole conversion section in actions |
| 23:01.53 | Lepton | got it |
| 23:02.28 | Zolden | YOU BETTER DO! OR MY SILVER SCV WILL DRILL YOU!!! http://i.snag.gy/qgINi.jpg |
| 23:04.51 | Lepton | isnag |
| 23:04.55 | Lepton | is this a german site? |
| 23:05.06 | Lepton | german imgur? |
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| 23:05.56 | DeadZergling | heh, the drill's resolution/coloring is so different than the rest of the SCV |
| 23:08.38 | Zolden | i enhuged it to drill deeper |
| 23:08.57 | Zolden | in game view it look ok |
| 23:09.00 | DeadZergling | gotta keep your ladies happy right? |
| 23:09.21 | DeadZergling | yea, im sure in game it isn't so bad, it just looks very copy/paste close up like that |
| 23:09.43 | Zolden | yea, drill the bitches crazy |
| 23:11.22 | Zolden | Lepton imgur requires more clicks to upload |
| 23:11.28 | Zolden | here you only ctrl+v |
| 23:11.39 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/MGBug.jpg |
| 23:11.40 | Lepton | o rly |
| 23:11.44 | Zolden | drill 5-way |
| 23:11.51 | Lepton | dat german engeneering |
| 23:12.04 | DeadZergling | is your map a porno? |
| 23:12.05 | Lepton | can you drag and drop? |
| 23:12.45 | Zolden | DeadZergling if yes, it's bad - chicks are ugly |
| 23:13.07 | DeadZergling | new kind of porno, realistic porno |
| 23:13.21 | DeadZergling | girls who look like that and cosplay as elves the only ones who will let you do them |
| 23:13.24 | Zolden | Lepton dunno, try snag.gy |
| 23:14.28 | DeadZergling | what kind of map is it supposed to be again Z? |
| 23:14.30 | DeadZergling | I'm confused |
| 23:14.41 | Lepton | why does the gauss rifle damage point says 0.05? |
| 23:14.57 | Zolden | DeadZergling I heard Triceron increased boobs of this models because he was asked to http://i.snag.gy/GKmJV.jpg |
| 23:14.59 | Lepton | when marine does 5 pt damagei think |
| 23:15.40 | DeadZergling | damage is controlled by damage effect |
| 23:15.53 | DeadZergling | damage point is something different |
| 23:16.00 | Lepton | oh I see |
| 23:16.07 | Zolden | DeadZergling ever played Squad TD? That battle mechanics. Plus, resources gathering, exploring, expanding |
| 23:17.54 | Lepton | anyone elses marine damage effect is called guass instead of gauss? |
| 23:17.58 | DeadZergling | here you go lepton, straight from the wiki |
| 23:18.01 | DeadZergling | Stats - Backswing The cooldown before another weapon can fire Stats - Damage Point The delay from the weapon animating before the effect is performed |
| 23:18.09 | Lepton | yea i found it DeadZergling |
| 23:18.10 | DeadZergling | two important weapon concepts you should knwo |
| 23:18.24 | Lepton | i havnt made maps in two years |
| 23:18.28 | Lepton | just a bit rusty :P |
| 23:18.32 | DeadZergling | yes, it is called that, guessing they mistyped it |
| 23:18.46 | Zolden | omg |
| 23:18.49 | DeadZergling | is one far worse in there |
| 23:18.56 | DeadZergling | if you look, you can find a warmhole |
| 23:19.02 | DeadZergling | instead of a wormhole |
| 23:19.04 | Zolden | I have always been using persistent to delay damage for animations ;/ |
| 23:19.23 | DeadZergling | see lepton, that is how important those concepts are |
| 23:19.37 | DeadZergling | zolden didn't know them, so he is sad from not knowing |
| 23:22.40 | Lepton | I I try to set catalog value: effects>marineguassrifle(damage) but then it asks for scope and field |
| 23:22.54 | Lepton | scope I put CEffectDamage |
| 23:23.05 | Lepton | no idea what field is about |
| 23:23.36 | Lepton | nor the index |
| 23:24.06 | DeadZergling | take a good look at it in the data editor |
| 23:24.10 | DeadZergling | in raw data mode |
| 23:24.29 | Lepton | raw data mode = XML? |
| 23:24.48 | DeadZergling | no |
| 23:25.00 | DeadZergling | is a button in the top leftish area |
| 23:25.11 | DeadZergling | tooltip should show as Raw Data Mode or something like that |
| 23:26.24 | Lepton | got it |
| 23:26.29 | Lepton | it was "amount" |
| 23:26.38 | Lepton | tks again :) |
| 23:26.58 | DeadZergling | no probs, I'm not at the editor, so I can't remember exact values or anything like that, lol |
| 23:27.54 | DeadZergling | this way is better for you to remember wtf you are doing anyways |
| 23:28.11 | Lepton | ye :) |
| 23:38.39 | DeadZergling | Out of curiosity, what inspired you to return? |
| 23:44.32 | Lepton | Zolden, im doing what you told me, updating tooltips through calalog for the upgrade levels |
| 23:44.46 | Lepton | but I can figure how to change the upgrade cost on the button |
| 23:44.49 | Lepton | tooltip |
| 23:46.05 | Lepton | DeadZergling, no idea, i updated my old map for hots |
| 23:46.12 | Lepton | and then decided to start a new one |
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| 23:46.34 | Lepton | ppl were msging me all the time asking me to update mymap for hots |
| 23:46.36 | Kueken | sharks |
| 23:46.39 | Lepton | cause it was still wol |
| 23:47.17 | Lepton | Kueken, any Idea how to change cost on button tooltips with triggers? |
| 23:47.25 | Kueken | yeah, with the new spawning feature, it probably makes a lot of sense to upgrade to HotS :D |
| 23:47.36 | Lepton | what feature? |
| 23:47.42 | Kueken | spawning |
| 23:47.53 | Lepton | what does that do? |
| 23:48.03 | Kueken | if one player in a party has access to HotS, the whole party can play HotS maps |
| 23:48.10 | Lepton | ohhh, yea i heard of that |
| 23:48.16 | Lepton | giood stuff for casuals |
| 23:48.20 | Kueken | even if the others only have starter edition |
| 23:48.27 | Kueken | aka didn't pay anything |
| 23:48.30 | Lepton | and in korea they can play it in pcbangs |
| 23:48.47 | Lepton | might hept bring back the popularity of bw |
| 23:48.54 | Kueken | you want to change the cost display only, without changing the actual costs? |
| 23:49.09 | Zolden | Lepton good |
| 23:49.32 | Zolden | alright, another nice day full of mapping is finished |
| 23:50.28 | Lepton | kueken, I want to change both |
| 23:50.38 | Lepton | but I do the cost with triggers |
| 23:50.48 | Lepton | cause I got like 30 levels that increment each other |
| 23:50.50 | DeadZergling | why not just use dref fields in your tooltips |
| 23:50.56 | Lepton | and didnt want to have to create 30 buttons |
| 23:51.03 | DeadZergling | those look at the values directly |
| 23:51.16 | DeadZergling | so updating the value with trigger, your tooltip is already up to date |
| 23:51.31 | Kueken | if the costs are static per player, yeah, use dref to display the cost and catalog field value set to change them |
| 23:51.43 | Lepton | the cost is more after each level |
| 23:51.51 | Lepton | lvl 1 25 lvl2 50, etc.. |
| 23:51.58 | Kueken | not a problem |
| 23:52.23 | Kueken | you can make the button display the current cost, regardless of value |
| 23:52.41 | Kueken | and you can modify the cost via trigger to any value you need |
| 23:52.46 | Lepton | ok well, if you would just tell me real quick what a dref field is |
| 23:52.57 | DeadZergling | drefs are a great thing, if we are talking tooltips for use with units |
| 23:52.58 | Kueken | a data reference |
| 23:53.03 | DeadZergling | they have issues in dialog tooltips though |
| 23:53.30 | Kueken | if you edit the tooltip, the text editor should have an option to insert a data reference |
| 23:54.11 | Kueken | then you can select, which data type, which object specifically and which field of that object |
| 23:54.24 | Kueken | then press insert and it will create the reference for you |
| 23:54.37 | Kueken | can you see it? |
| 23:54.56 | Lepton | 1 sec trying |
