| 00:02.52 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/pedestalOfBlood.png I painted more stuff I need :D pedestal of blood with 4 different blood levels and stones attached to them. |
| 00:15.30 | DeadZergling | why Ahli, those are so epic, why not just use those in your map? |
| 00:17.53 | Ahli | because the rest of my map isn't made in self-drawn sprites |
| 00:20.33 | DeadZergling | well, time to start over I say |
| 00:20.45 | DeadZergling | scrap the junk you got, shift over to nothing but those beauties! |
| 00:21.10 | DeadZergling | haha sorry, I know they are just concept drawings |
| 00:36.52 | Ahli | great concept drawings :D I was impressed myself that it didn't look super terrible |
| 00:49.27 | Repo | New announcement: War4craft : the Battle Realms Beta - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/war4craft-the-battle-realms-beta/ |
| 01:25.08 | Ahli | how do I detect a cooldown of an ability that is stored in the unit? |
| 01:25.35 | Ahli | cooldown for unit ability fails and the other ones don't display the link |
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| 01:51.22 | voidn0ise | Hey guys, wondering if I could get some help real fast on something itemshop related problem I'm having on my map, anyone available? |
| 01:54.34 | DeadZergling | ask the question first |
| 01:54.51 | DeadZergling | won't know if we can help until we know the problem, lol |
| 01:55.13 | voidn0ise | Basically I have a shop set up, with items all set up, but when I buy from it the items drop on the ground to be picked up rather than going straight into inventory. Any idea how to fix that? |
| 01:55.35 | DeadZergling | sounds like the item types you are buying |
| 01:55.40 | DeadZergling | aren't supported in that container |
| 01:56.05 | voidn0ise | Well I can pick them up just fine and drop them again, they just won't auto pickup. |
| 01:57.07 | DeadZergling | I see, not at the editor to see what my options and such are, I know it is very possible though |
| 01:57.28 | DeadZergling | try onetwosc's complete hero tutorial, just fast forward to the item shop part |
| 01:57.33 | DeadZergling | see what he does differently |
| 01:57.50 | DeadZergling | is on youtube |
| 01:58.21 | voidn0ise | Yeah I've done that already but they only thing he does differently is an ability on the shop that switches control to hero, but I don't see why that would disable auto pickup considering I did the same thing except through change ownership triggers. |
| 01:59.55 | DeadZergling | trying to think of who might have an item shop in their map like what you are doing..... |
| 02:00.08 | DeadZergling | would it ruin your map to use said ability instead? lol |
| 02:00.51 | DeadZergling | most of the people have like a full dialog based inventory or some crap |
| 02:00.56 | DeadZergling | for the RPG makers |
| 02:01.13 | Ahli | full dialog isn't thaaat crappy |
| 02:01.20 | voidn0ise | No probably not, but I just don't see how that would affect the pick up since it's just a basic switch control ability, except mine is 24/7 rather than when you approach within specific meters. |
| 02:01.24 | DeadZergling | is just an expression ahli |
| 02:01.30 | DeadZergling | im not calling them crap |
| 02:02.36 | DeadZergling | i don't disagree voidn0ise |
| 02:02.44 | DeadZergling | just trying to remove that variable |
| 02:02.48 | DeadZergling | if everything else is okay |
| 02:03.26 | voidn0ise | Yeah I understand. It's just frustrating because no matter what I try to search or where I go there seems to be an absence of the solution since no one seems to have the problem. |
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| 02:03.59 | DeadZergling | yea, I understand, not at my home machine right now |
| 02:04.07 | DeadZergling | so I can't simple look at what I did, lol |
| 02:05.12 | DeadZergling | i know in my map I do use the data containers, and items do go directly into my inventory |
| 02:06.46 | DeadZergling | guess my suggestion at this time, copy what onetwo did line for line |
| 02:06.57 | DeadZergling | then adjust it to fit your needs |
| 02:07.09 | voidn0ise | I mean it's not a HUGE problem, but it is rather annoying and I know I'll have to fix it before release anyways so I'd rather figure it out while I'm on it. |
| 02:07.17 | voidn0ise | I'll give it a whack though, thanks |
| 02:07.31 | DeadZergling | i understand, try potion stack saving sometime |
| 02:07.34 | DeadZergling | is a real nightmare, lol |
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| 03:08.59 | egod | i am really lost on youtube rightnow....i have to stop |
| 03:14.37 | nooblark | i do it all the time |
| 03:14.38 | nooblark | kkl |
| 03:14.40 | nooblark | lol* |
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| 03:23.23 | egod | the test we did last night was very stable enexy |
| 03:23.26 | egod | for my map |
| 03:57.42 | Dogmai | http://www.dailylife.com.au/opinion/political-news/assange-no-concern-of-ours-says-carr-20130606-2nt5t.html |
| 03:57.46 | Dogmai | puppets |
| 03:59.00 | Ahli | is the disable validator the opposite of what its tooltip states? |
| 03:59.09 | Ahli | disable validator of buffs |
| 03:59.23 | Dogmai | Has the Australian government let down Julian Assange? Yes 76% |
| 04:01.26 | Dogmai | When people in the USA are told that our greatest Australian Hero is actually a guy who shot dead a bunch of cops, Americans are like omg ... how barbarian! |
| 04:02.08 | Dogmai | But they do not understand our history, or that those cops were extremely corrupt. So when our greatest Australian hero shoots a bunch of corrupt cops, then indeed, he is a hero. |
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| 04:27.54 | egod | ragggeee |
| 04:28.15 | egod | revamping my skill user interface :( |
| 04:30.30 | egod | Enexy i got a idea |
| 04:30.51 | egod | why you dont use the middle mouse button for moving item stuff, its stand-alone lag |
| 04:42.37 | Enexy | egod: ? |
| 04:42.50 | egod | middle mouse button to move item |
| 04:42.54 | egod | drag them |
| 04:42.57 | egod | its lag free |
| 04:42.58 | Enexy | why not right-click? |
| 04:43.00 | Enexy | oh |
| 04:43.06 | Enexy | yeah but it feels funny too |
| 04:43.17 | egod | yeah but lag free :) |
| 04:43.25 | egod | and your camera system still fully work |
| 04:43.39 | Enexy | yeah |
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| 04:44.26 | Enexy | I'll try it in a test map see if it works |
| 04:44.43 | egod | and if you want better result |
| 04:44.49 | egod | reduce your 256x256 map |
| 04:44.57 | egod | smaller = better |
| 04:45.00 | Enexy | lol |
| 04:45.00 | egod | for lag |
| 04:45.43 | egod | 160x184 |
| 04:45.46 | egod | is mine |
| 04:46.59 | Enexy | well |
| 04:47.02 | Enexy | might go top-down |
| 04:49.55 | egod | i remember i tested something before, i reduce my map size like 80x100 and omg....i was instant clicking action hack and slash feeling, 0 fucking lag |
| 04:50.13 | egod | but its very small, dont try it |
| 04:50.26 | egod | it make a huge difference |
| 05:02.19 | Enexy | Lol |
| 05:09.50 | Enexy | well, I do appreciate that suggestion egod, I surely will try it |
| 05:09.52 | Enexy | Going to sleep |
| 05:09.54 | Enexy | night all |
| 05:09.58 | egod | cya |
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| 06:04.37 | Kueken | sharks |
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| 06:54.47 | G0A | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/10113879/Launcher_Update_Testers_Wanted-6_10_2013 |
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| 07:49.08 | G0A | great, I have 3gb free space from 500gb |
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| 08:25.07 | Zolden | http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/tragemata/25155229/2865988/2865988_original.gif |
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| 08:29.10 | ways | NICE |
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| 09:30.47 | Zolden | G0A nice fucking music you linked yesterday |
| 09:31.15 | Zolden | i'd listen it again, but lost the link ;/ |
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| 10:35.12 | G0A | Zolden http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjGP1JIc8RM |
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| 10:45.13 | Zolden | ty |
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| 11:01.45 | Dogmai | G0A complain when you are like me |
| 11:01.56 | Dogmai | <50gb free from 12TB |
| 11:05.19 | G0A | its easier to buy new storage on your serve, than adding new hardware to your computer:D |
| 11:05.20 | Ahli | 73.5 of 500gb :X I really need to buy an additional harddrive ;D |
| 11:05.38 | Dogmai | i use the server for work |
| 11:05.45 | Dogmai | which is stupid considering the amount of power it draws |
| 11:06.12 | Dogmai | I really need to make another server, low powered, that I can leave on 24/7 |
| 11:06.31 | Dogmai | I am out of space anyways, no more room for hds -_- |
| 11:12.32 | G0A | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292 |
| 11:13.53 | G0A | I miss all the fun:) |
| 11:14.38 | duckies | so deadzergling won! =D |
| 11:14.51 | G0A | what map did he do? |
| 11:15.37 | duckies | He said he made some sort of arena using assets from the rpg he was making |
| 11:19.26 | Zolden | mapmaking |
| 11:19.48 | duckies | pats zolden |
| 11:23.25 | Zolden | pays no attention, keeps mapmaking |
| 11:24.34 | Zolden | freezes duckies with a "turn into ice" for 5 minutes and puts him on a hot sunny square |
| 11:25.27 | Zolden | attaches "free ice for drinks" note on ice sculpture of duckies |
| 11:26.08 | Zolden | invites a guy to sell warm coca cola |
| 11:26.22 | Zolden | keeps mapping |
| 11:26.37 | G0A | is there way to see how much behavior a unit has from 1 behavior without much work? |
| 11:27.32 | Zolden | G0A you can temporarily set something like +1 armor to that behavior modification |
| 11:29.15 | G0A | yeah thats what I dont want |
| 11:29.19 | G0A | so there is noway |
| 11:29.46 | G0A | it would be ok too if it would just show up more than 1 times, but I dont have to make more than behavior for i |
| 11:29.47 | G0A | t |
| 11:30.11 | duckies | isn't there a trigger for behavior amount? |
| 11:31.37 | G0A | okay so I wont do it anyway:D |
| 11:31.49 | G0A | its not so important |
| 11:31.56 | G0A | btw Zolden, like your models.D |
| 11:32.11 | Zolden | glad |
| 11:32.12 | duckies | good choice, wheither you've got an option to do, or not do anything - pick not doing it! =D |
| 11:32.28 | Ahli | number of behaviors on unit? |
| 11:33.32 | G0A | 5 |
| 11:33.55 | Ahli | it's an action... you could cycle through them. Else, you can get the stack count, too |
| 11:37.04 | Zolden | guys, don't you remember, does Search Area effect's "Target Sorts+" field work? |
| 12:01.53 | Zolden | Kueken do you know anything about target sorts? |
| 12:02.04 | Zolden | i want to target a unit with lower hp |
| 12:03.25 | Kueken | try TSLife |
| 12:03.31 | Kueken | and yes they should work |
| 12:03.46 | Kueken | or TSLifeFraction |
| 12:04.03 | Zolden | trying to turn on "descending" flag |
| 12:04.20 | Zolden | because TSlife seem to select higher hps |
| 12:05.27 | Zolden | should we change request count and request percentage in the sorts+ field? |
| 12:16.52 | Zolden | Kueken what if I say that target sorts doesn't work for search effects? |
| 12:18.50 | Zolden | Kueken there is "target finds" tab in data editor, have you ever used it? |
| 12:19.14 | Kueken | target finds is for assisting AI afaik |
| 12:19.32 | Kueken | target sorts definitely work for search effects |
| 12:20.33 | Zolden | Strange, it doesn't pick lower hp target, and targets rather random targets ;/ |
| 12:21.40 | Zolden | Kueken if I have search->issue order, should I have issue order->target = target unit? |
| 12:22.35 | Kueken | depends |
| 12:22.47 | Kueken | what should it do? |
| 12:22.51 | Zolden | i want unit to attack the target search found |
| 12:23.15 | Zolden | it's a part of "archer picks target with lower hp" |
| 12:26.24 | Zolden | so I have a behavior on archer which has damage responce (attacker) -> search |
| 12:29.39 | Zolden | Kueken I've tried angle, distence, all lifes - and search is random every time |
| 12:30.06 | Zolden | also, none of target sorts are used in search effects, only in abilities |
| 12:30.22 | Kueken | I use them regularly |
| 12:30.28 | Zolden | this correlates with the fact that none of TS used for weapons, and they don't work for weapons |
| 12:30.32 | Kueken | pretty sure they are used in search effects as well |
| 12:30.34 | Zolden | and they do work for abilities |
| 12:31.09 | Zolden | r u sure they are working? have you tested captiously? |
| 12:31.34 | Zolden | Kueken thye aren't used at least in wol |
| 12:33.15 | Kueken | I know some don't work, like behavior remaining duration |
| 12:33.51 | Kueken | but yes, I used them quite a lot, stuff like TSMarker, TSLife, TSDistance etc work just fine with search effects. |
| 12:34.07 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 12:34.38 | Zolden | do you have any idea why can they not work? |
| 12:34.57 | Zolden | all effects' options are standard |
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| 12:35.34 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkDD03yeLnU |
| 12:35.34 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:35.43 | Ahli | yes |
| 12:35.51 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.33 | Ahli | that might become difficult/impossible when the unit fires its weapon |
| 12:37.45 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:37.55 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.36 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.38 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/gax3-starcraft-ii-editor-enchant/ gax3 has actor visibility stuff... |
| 12:40.04 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/ActorVisibilityPerPlayerByRenee2Isgla.SC2Map I think I put that into a map to copy paste, too... I'm to lazy to open if that file has everything |
| 12:40.25 | Ahli | it's an actor and a few trigger actions |
| 12:45.45 | Ahli | you would execute a model swap or even create 2 actors for the unit and hide one or something. |
| 12:46.07 | Ahli | so, instead of show hiding, model swap |
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| 12:55.37 | Zolden | Kueken I'm trying to make an effect be executed on attacker when he kills anything, and i did what you said, but if I have not checked Fatal, the effect starts every time the attacker hits his target, but if I have Fatal check, effect doens't happen when attacker kills the target |
| 12:55.41 | Zolden | any notes/ |
| 12:55.42 | Zolden | ? |
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| 13:01.03 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:03.52 | Zolden | oh, it's a known issue |
| 13:03.54 | Zolden | gay |
| 13:05.05 | Zolden | twodie have Ahli give you his paintings about wall's look? |
| 13:05.26 | twodie | no |
| 13:05.47 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/5fTLe.jpg |
| 13:05.50 | Zolden | check this |
| 13:05.51 | Ahli | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4479839/hellWallAhliPainting.zip |
| 13:07.15 | twodie | hmm |
| 13:13.46 | twodie | http://snag.gy/6CChI.jpg |
| 13:13.52 | twodie | was thing something like that |
| 13:14.45 | Zolden | lol |
| 13:15.00 | twodie | to be, the walls would be from bones, skulls and stuff but the pillars would be stonish stuff |
| 13:15.04 | Zolden | r u reincarnated leonardo da vinci? |
| 13:15.18 | twodie | maybe some demonic stuff |
| 13:15.32 | twodie | like Heads and other stuff on pillars |
| 13:16.02 | Ahli | impaled bodies and body parts, go :D |
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| 13:37.37 | twodie | okay will try to find time and make the concept in evening to preview |
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| 13:55.16 | goosee | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.29 | Dogmai | my missus knitted me a skarf |
| 13:55.31 | Dogmai | neck so farm |
| 13:55.34 | Dogmai | warm |
| 13:55.36 | Dogmai | feels so good man |
| 13:57.07 | goosee | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:00.40 | Kueken | ok |
| 14:00.48 | Kueken | Zolden, I am here now :D |
| 14:01.06 | Kueken | what exactly was the issue now? |
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| 14:08.35 | Zolden | Kueken for now I figured out, that it is working, sorts affect target choosing, but not in 100% of cases |
| 14:09.08 | Zolden | but i'm ok about it, ficked too much with 1 unit, wanna go further |
| 14:09.30 | Kueken | :D |
| 14:09.32 | Zolden | also, that "fatal" checkbox doesn't work for attacker |
| 14:09.38 | Zolden | but it's known bug |
| 14:09.45 | Kueken | ah |
| 14:09.53 | Zolden | so i had to apply a behavior on target with fatal checked |
| 14:09.56 | Kueken | so you need to check with a validator in the effect |
| 14:10.02 | Kueken | ...or that |
| 14:10.28 | Kueken | a target is dead validator could work as well, maybe? |
| 14:10.37 | Zolden | maybe |
| 14:10.38 | Kueken | so you wouldn't need an additional behavior |
| 14:10.40 | Zolden | i'll try |
| 14:10.51 | Zolden | on another unit that requires this feature |
| 14:10.56 | Kueken | :D |
| 14:11.56 | Zolden | also, later i'll check if ability sort work in 100% of cases |
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| 14:14.56 | RRJJ | Hello, I have this weird error whenever I try to save the map. It tells me "Error parsing variable or function declaration" in some coded line that I've never seen, with just the line coded as "trigger gt_;" and nothing else. Anyone experienced this? |
| 14:16.46 | Zolden | have you galaxy coded b4? |
| 14:16.52 | RRJJ | Never |
| 14:18.36 | Zolden | made some triggers? |
| 14:19.19 | RRJJ | Mmm... since last save... don't think so? |
| 14:20.13 | RRJJ | I probably did then eh? What should I look into? |
| 14:25.03 | Zolden | RRJJ ctrl + i on triggers will help you to find which one fucks the code |
| 14:25.35 | G0A | Zolden the USA gov helps classic scifi books.) http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-06-11/sales-george-orwells-1984-have-surged-6884-last-24-hours |
| 14:25.37 | Kueken | Ahli: I noticed something weird regarding your problem |
| 14:26.12 | Ahli | weird? |
| 14:27.06 | Kueken | well, for example, if I create a marine model via trigger , I can see it near a unit in FoW |
| 14:27.38 | Kueken | a real marine only gets visible the exact moment it enters the vision radius |
| 14:27.49 | Kueken | the model does well before that |
| 14:28.22 | RRJJ | Zolden I have too many triggers to test individual triggers. Any other idea? |
| 14:29.01 | Kueken | deactivate half of them, see if it works |
| 14:29.20 | Zolden | Kueken lol, I just couldn't leave that situation unsolved... and i solved it |
| 14:29.22 | Kueken | then you know which half has the culprit |
| 14:29.35 | RRJJ | So I disable half of them then save? |
| 14:29.57 | Kueken | then half that half again, until you narrowed it down |
| 14:30.34 | Kueken | ahli: how do you even make a unit actor leave a snapshot? |
| 14:30.45 | Zolden | RRJJ first, disable all to make sure that one of them causes the problem |
| 14:30.56 | Zolden | RRJJ then enable half |
| 14:31.00 | Zolden | and so on |
| 14:31.16 | Zolden | it's logarythmic search |
| 14:31.38 | Zolden | even if you have 1024 triggers, it won't take more then 10 steps to find the fucked one |
| 14:32.12 | G0A | :) |
| 14:32.30 | Ahli | Kueken: the bridge model attachments I made are creating snapshots when its alias is "_Snapshot" and fog visibility is set to Snapshot |
| 14:32.52 | Kueken | hm |
| 14:33.04 | Kueken | doesn't seem to work the same way for unit actor |
| 14:33.04 | Kueken | s |
| 14:33.16 | Kueken | also buildings don't use the alias... |
| 14:33.47 | Ahli | alias was important in the attachment to generate a snapshot |
| 14:34.19 | Ahli | but the attachment is attached to a structure, so I guess the signal is just send to the attachment, too, because of that alias |
| 14:34.39 | Ahli | but doodads on the map generate snapshots, don't they? |
| 14:35.23 | Kueken | they are visible if you never saw them, so its not a snapshot technically, I believe |
| 14:35.41 | Kueken | there is also fog visibility: dimmed |
| 14:35.57 | Kueken | I assume that is used by most doodads? |
| 14:36.26 | Ahli | tree - agria uses snapshot |
| 14:36.29 | Kueken | nope, they use snapshot as well |
| 14:36.38 | Ahli | maybe I need to add _Doodad alias |
| 14:36.56 | Kueken | is there any actor which doesn't use snapshot? |
| 14:36.57 | Zolden | G0A I didn't get that thing with 1984, what happened? |
| 14:38.11 | Kueken | maybe its even tied to having a footprint or something weird like that |
| 14:38.46 | RRJJ | I'm finding more and different trigger errors that I've disabled from before. When I save, does the editor show all of the trigger errors or just whichever comes first to it? |
| 14:39.29 | Zolden | Kueken so, if u're curious waht was that: i wanted to issue order to attack th lowest hp unit after the previous target dies. And search tended to pick the dead target since in most cases it has lowest hp |
| 14:39.39 | Kueken | :D |
| 14:40.09 | Ahli | must kill it again... :D |
| 14:40.20 | Kueken | RRJJ: it usually displays all errors it can find, but a simple syntax error usually fucks up the rest of the script, so it cannot find any more errors beyond that |
| 14:40.21 | Zolden | RRJJ have disabling all triggers let you save? |
| 14:40.34 | RRJJ | Yes |
| 14:41.42 | Zolden | RRJJ now you have to enable only full chains of triggers, so the enabled ones not try to execute the disabled ones since they don't see them |
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| 14:42.54 | RRJJ | Ah that will be quite difficult... |
| 14:44.05 | Zolden | RRJJ well, try to disable only the latest trigger chains |
| 14:44.13 | Zolden | some you worked today on |
| 14:44.48 | Zolden | but there is a chance that you removed something other old trigger linked |
| 14:45.17 | Zolden | also, that ctrl+z thing may not be fixed, and that could case errors |
| 14:50.07 | RRJJ | Huh... weird... I made a backup of the original (still with trigger error that I described) and I was able to save it. |
| 14:50.21 | RRJJ | ... any idea on how that worked? |
| 14:51.50 | RRJJ | I tried disabling latest triggers, but I'm not 100% sure which ones I've worked on (or worked on at all) since last save. I tried my best on the last many trigger edits, but still did not work. |
| 14:53.01 | G0A | Zolden you dont know the 1984 book? |
| 14:53.45 | G0A | How do I create a one shot model at every offset of an presistent? |
| 14:53.57 | Kueken | well, the gt_; issue sounds like the editor messed up when converting the triggers to actual code, maybe at some point you forced the editor to recreate the code and it corrected itself. |
| 14:54.16 | RRJJ | Where can I see this code? |
| 14:54.22 | Ahli | goa, let it create at target on the effect? |
| 14:54.38 | Kueken | G0A: make the effect executed at the offset create the actor |
| 14:55.13 | Kueken | Ahli: the different types of actors seem to handle their fog visibilities in totally different ways |
| 14:55.37 | Ahli | but I can only create a model actor with triggers :< |
| 14:55.40 | Kueken | unit actors seem to have no influence, I assume its handled by the unit properties |
| 14:55.59 | Kueken | doodads respond to changes for the Fog Visibility field |
| 14:56.14 | Kueken | which unit or model actors do not, it seems |
| 14:56.19 | Ahli | it seems that it works with dimmed visibility now |
| 14:56.22 | Ahli | hang on |
| 14:57.08 | Kueken | RRJJ: you can have a look at the generated mapscript in the trigger editor, press ctrl + F11 |
| 14:57.27 | Kueken | that is the script that would be generated by your current triggers |
| 14:57.34 | Ahli | it works with dimmed |
| 14:57.40 | Zolden | G0A I do know, but I didn't udnerstand why its sales are exploded |
| 14:58.19 | Ahli | but the models seem to have a weird size for their radius in which their are considered "visible" (=bright) |
| 14:58.24 | Kueken | it might differ from the script used by the map, which you can see in the import manager, when you check "Show Reserved" and click on the "MapScript.galaxy" file |
| 14:58.52 | Kueken | Ahli: okay, that explains the issue I had earlier |
| 14:59.16 | Kueken | and it works with dimmed, but everything else is alyways not visible? |
| 14:59.28 | Ahli | it's not visible through black mask which is fine |
| 14:59.48 | Zolden | G0A and to make actor show a model at effect you execute at persistent offset, you may need "at effect" term in events and also have set "scope effect" at host+ |
| 14:59.50 | G0A | Zolden because of Edward Snowden :) |
| 14:59.52 | Ahli | I'm currently checking if the alias I added were required |
| 15:00.08 | Ahli | then I need to play with the model visibility radius or something |
| 15:00.26 | Zolden | G0A what did he do? is he like Oprah who recommend books and every housewife buy that book? |
| 15:00.38 | Kueken | works for me with the only change being the dimmed |
| 15:00.53 | Ahli | works with dimmed only |
| 15:00.57 | Ahli | yes |
| 15:01.20 | Kueken | but its visible in black mask |
| 15:01.28 | Kueken | for me at least |
| 15:01.40 | G0A | Zolden ehh, you didnt read news in the last 2 days? |
| 15:02.21 | Ahli | not for me :o |
| 15:02.49 | Ahli | and "Actor - Create actor model dddBloodOnGround at (point facing angle degrees) using point facing" is the only thing I do to it atm |
| 15:03.11 | Zolden | Zolden maybe I read news while procrastinating, but I don't know who's Edward Snowden |
| 15:03.52 | Zolden | s/Zolden/G0A/ maybe I read news while procrastinating, but I don't know who's Edward Snowden |
| 15:03.54 | G0A | purl Edward Snowden |
| 15:03.55 | Kueken | maybe the model has influence as well? |
| 15:04.21 | Zolden | G0A jsut tell me who is it and what he did? |
| 15:04.44 | Zolden | cinematografized the boook? |
| 15:05.02 | Zolden | cinematographised books explode in sales |
| 15:05.29 | G0A | Zolden http://www.guardian.co.uk/ |
| 15:05.47 | Zolden | even if it's "how to not cut your penis away while coocking naked" book |
| 15:05.49 | Ahli | model has doodad type |
| 15:06.55 | Kueken | try Marine model |
| 15:07.51 | Ahli | hang on, I test that after testing visibility radius of 0.5 |
| 15:10.03 | Zolden | G0A so, he said that CIA is checking phone and internet users, someone compared it to 1984, and everyone started to buy the book? |
| 15:10.14 | Zolden | G0A did he compared it or Oprah did? |
| 15:10.26 | Zolden | or no one compared and ppl just decided to reread the book? |
| 15:11.47 | twodie | http://snag.gy/jngAK.jpg |
| 15:12.49 | G0A | why do my actor inherit scale of the unit even tough I have Properties: Inherited Properties +Cloak Effect, Visibility |
| 15:13.07 | Zolden | twodie go on |
| 15:13.34 | RRJJ | Okay... now, this is really really weird. |
| 15:13.46 | twodie | im not sure where to put the main pillar (-s) |
| 15:13.52 | G0A | Zolden actually I didnt see anyone comparing it to 1984, but its pretty straight forward that some one did. |
| 15:13.56 | twodie | in the end or in center |
| 15:13.57 | RRJJ | The Galaxy script editor is telling me that Line #1 has error, which is this: |
| 15:14.04 | Zolden | G0A weren't there another field in actor to disable scale inherit? |
| 15:14.12 | RRJJ | "//==================================================================================================" |
| 15:14.30 | Ahli | what's in line 0? |
| 15:14.46 | Ahli | my trigger debugger is only giving me wrong line numbers, too |
| 15:14.52 | RRJJ | There is absolutely nothing wrong with that because it's a comment line right? There are millions of other lines like it. |
| 15:15.08 | RRJJ | There is no line 0 |
| 15:15.15 | G0A | Zolden I dont see any |
| 15:15.59 | Zolden | G0A well, dunno then, check forum |
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| 15:16.23 | Zolden | i can't even remember, have i ever succeeded in disabling scale inherit |
| 15:16.26 | Kueken | Blizzard's error messages are known for stating the wrong lines |
| 15:16.51 | RRJJ | This is just ridiculous! |
| 15:17.04 | Kueken | :) |
| 15:17.12 | Ahli | just use GUI :D |
| 15:17.23 | Kueken | it IS gui, from what I understand |
| 15:17.45 | Ahli | with or without custom script? |
| 15:17.57 | RRJJ | The GUI is rather slow. At least with text, I can do it fast via Notepad++ |
| 15:18.13 | RRJJ | Are there any other ways of narrowing down the error? |
| 15:18.18 | Ahli | if you need to look for the error for half a day, it's not faster :D |
| 15:18.42 | Kueken | RRJJ: Open the import manager, check "Show Reserved", click "MapScript.galaxy", copy the script to pastebin, post the link |
| 15:18.46 | Kueken | I will take a look |
| 15:21.14 | RRJJ | MapScript.galaxy is under F9--import manager right? |
| 15:22.21 | RRJJ | Also, it's 17322 lines of triggers in the Galaxy editor... not sure if that's what you are looking for. |
| 15:22.45 | Kueken | :D |
| 15:23.05 | Kueken | sounds about right |
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| 15:24.24 | RRJJ | "You have exceeded the maximum file size of 500 kilobytes per paste. PRO users don't have this limit!" |
| 15:24.32 | RRJJ | I'll just upload on dropbox as text file. Is that better? |
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| 15:25.43 | Ahli | better than not working? :D |
| 15:28.17 | Ahli | I wish vision blockers wouldn't allow me to see the terrain 1 tile behind it |
| 15:28.45 | Kueken | did the vision radius thingy work btw? |
| 15:29.26 | Ahli | 0.01 makes it feel like it's only bright when the fog area is gone... |
| 15:29.50 | Ahli | but you can see the ones on the other side of a wall... |
| 15:29.51 | Kueken | RRJJ: as long as I get the script and you don't post it completely in this irc, its fine :D |
| 15:30.09 | Ahli | but it's only a small issue... my wall models give away the dungeon structure, too |
| 15:30.39 | Ahli | it will just look a bit odd as other doodads are hidden (the ones that block pathing or are interactible) |
| 16:07.06 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:10.32 | Ahli | invalid parameter list |
| 16:12.43 | Ahli | ::Host is a preset... maybe it doesn't like it |
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| 16:13.43 | Kueken | try ::Main |
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| 16:22.39 | Ahli | doesn't work :S error message |
| 16:24.35 | Ahli | "Cannot set site ops on host ::Main." |
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| 16:32.28 | RRJJ_ | I didn't realize I was disconnected the entire time. |
| 16:33.00 | RRJJ_ | I found the problem. It was localization problem. It was from a new ability that was added few patches ago, but the fatal error never popped up until now. Thanks anyway! |
| 16:34.34 | Zolden | G0A so, found how to not inherit scale? |
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| 16:38.26 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:40.29 | Zolden | maybe you apply it twice? |
| 16:41.41 | gooose | no |
| 16:42.17 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.05 | Zolden | what if you use -0.5 instead of -1? |
| 16:45.08 | Ahli | so, offset works with ::Host |
| 16:45.12 | Zolden | will it still be returned by +0.5? |
| 16:45.18 | Ahli | but rotation doesn't |
| 16:45.48 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:46.02 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.24 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:47.39 | Zolden | what model? |
| 16:48.02 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:48.42 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:49.19 | Ahli | can you lower units below their default height now? |
| 16:49.30 | Ahli | oh he quit |
| 16:53.56 | Ahli | ok, that works now :) |
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| 16:55.47 | Zolden | Ahli he used modify unit instead of behavior |
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| 16:56.24 | Zolden | today, how's the wall going? |
| 16:57.03 | Ahli | yeah, can modify unit do that? :D I think I tried modify unit before and in the end I somehow ended up using -2 as default height |
| 16:57.19 | Zolden | never tried |
| 16:57.49 | Zolden | but who knowas what these patches silently change |
| 16:58.31 | Ahli | hmm, how can I differ between actors in a region? I would like to differ between my doodad actors in a region to destroy the one half and hide/show the other half |
| 17:00.21 | Zolden | i remember some criterias to pick actors in region |
| 17:00.36 | Ahli | there is class and terms |
| 17:00.58 | Ahli | class is the same... I can make terms to check for an alias or a status I define? |
| 17:01.29 | Zolden | are those actors different entries? |
| 17:02.45 | Zolden | i'm thinking of adding in events something htat will allow to send a signal, and some actors will get destroyed by that signal, and some won't |
| 17:06.27 | Ahli | actors are the same |
| 17:06.49 | Ahli | I'm testing status now |
| 17:07.04 | Ahli | I hope it can convert the actor message for SetStatus |
| 17:07.16 | Ahli | it's not in the GUI's function list |
| 17:07.26 | Ahli | so I convert a string to a message |
| 17:07.31 | Ahli | but it should work |
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| 17:16.33 | Ahli | hmm create actor at point doesn't work for my hell texture anymore |
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| 17:47.47 | Zolden | Blizz-Tenarsis hey, do blizz employees smoke weed while making games? |
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| 17:51.57 | Blizz-Deletarius | morning |
| 17:52.18 | Zolden | hey |
| 17:52.38 | Ahli | empty class filter filters out every class? |
| 17:52.38 | Blizz-Deletarius | hey :) |
| 17:52.48 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius so, you guys came, does it mean a new patch is about to be released? |
| 17:53.13 | Blizz-Deletarius | what makes you think that a new patch is about to be released? |
| 17:53.42 | Zolden | I feel a little correlation between major updates and blizz presence |
| 17:53.46 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh |
| 17:53.47 | Blizz-Deletarius | no |
| 17:54.12 | Blizz-Deletarius | but, I can *nooooooooot* be here if that will make it seem less likely that a patch would or would not be on the way :P |
| 17:55.31 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius do blizz employees allowed to smoke weed while working? |
| 17:55.40 | Zolden | *are |
| 17:55.54 | Ahli | is that even allowed in USA? |
| 17:56.14 | Zolden | in CA it seems to be more allowed in some central states |
| 17:56.23 | Ahli | if its medical, for sure :D |
| 17:56.24 | Zolden | *than |
| 17:56.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | Zolden, you can't actually smoke *anything* while inside a work building in ca |
| 17:56.51 | Blizz-Deletarius | OSHA rules and regulations |
| 17:57.00 | Zolden | oh, nice |
| 17:57.02 | Blizz-Deletarius | as it's unsafe for others |
| 17:57.19 | Zolden | i wish stuff like this worked here |
| 17:57.33 | Blizz-Deletarius | yea, I think it's fantastic as I'm a non-smoker |
| 17:59.00 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius there's buff behavior -> damage response. And it has "fatal" flag. Is it a bug that it doesn't work if it's set to Attacker? When attacker kills his target, response effect doesn't get triggered. |
| 17:59.07 | Blizz-Tenarsis | tuesday is like our "let's do something for the modding community day" |
| 17:59.53 | Zolden | Ahli ask them about lowering units |
| 18:00.09 | Ahli | no need |
| 18:00.28 | Ahli | wasn't my problem and I have my way to lower units... :D |
| 18:00.28 | Zolden | Blizz-Tenarsis oh, it's a nice kind of day |
| 18:00.55 | Ahli | Blizz-Deletarius: btw, thanks for the help a few days ago :) |
| 18:01.14 | Zolden | yesterday I was like, I so need blizz guys to consult... and now i don't remember what was the issue ;/ |
| 18:02.45 | Zolden | G0A ask them about no inherit scale |
| 18:03.35 | Blizz-Deletarius | oh no worries Ahli - glad it helped :) |
| 18:04.43 | Ahli | the only problem my upgrades with label display has is that it's required offsets depend on the resolution/screen dimensions |
| 18:07.48 | Zolden | Blizz-Deletarius is there some statistics about how much more players the spawning feature brought to arcade? |
| 18:08.45 | Blizz-Deletarius | Ahli - what do you mean? |
| 18:09.08 | Blizz-Deletarius | Zolden - not that I know of, and even if we did, that kind of information isn't something that I can share |
| 18:10.09 | Ahli | you can see the image of the upgrade with 1 pixel or the whole upgrades area is moving into the opposite direction by 1 pixel or it just fits and stays in place (=> hides upgrade with empty label). |
| 18:10.39 | Ahli | but I'm not in interface editing mood atm... I need to work on hell content |
| 18:11.49 | Ahli | What's wrong with: Actor - Send actor message "SetVisibility" to all actors that intersect game region (getAreaIDRegion(complete)(13)) with their Center that belong to class "CActorModel" and match terms ""... it doesn't hide the "trigger model" actors I created in that region =/ |
| 18:11.57 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.02 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/15754-send-actor-message-to-game-region-with-filters-on-specified/ found solution... I think I made this mistake at least 2 times now |
| 18:16.15 | Ahli | still not working o0 |
| 18:16.52 | Ahli | oh wait... I think I know the problem |
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| 18:17.20 | Xivader | hi guys |
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| 18:36.09 | G0A | Zolden I worked out the inherit problem with actor events |
| 18:37.24 | Ahli | what's the best way to give a death model actor a piece of information from the dieing unit? |
| 18:37.49 | Ahli | I want to swap the texture via to texture select by ID |
| 18:37.51 | Zolden | G0A how? i need it too |
| 18:37.52 | Ahli | *-to |
| 18:39.10 | Zolden | guys, I apply a behavior to enemy, behavior performs periodic search, search has filter, does that filter considers as enemies - caster's enemies or source's enemies? |
| 18:44.56 | Zolden | Kueken how to make enemies not attack me? |
| 18:45.16 | Zolden | like you usually do in test purposes |
| 18:47.38 | Ahli | I'm not sure... just yesterday a behavior applied after another behavior has the target unit as owner. The first behavior had the initially casting unit as owner |
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| 19:04.43 | Kueken | Zolden: Set default acquire behavior to none and response to no response for the units |
| 19:06.00 | Zolden | ty |
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| 19:12.12 | DeadZergling | Hey Zolden, the scorecards are official now: http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292/results |
| 19:14.10 | DeadZergling | apparently to get a rank, you have to at least get a score above 75 % |
| 19:24.12 | Zolden | DeadZergling were there other maps? |
| 19:25.21 | DeadZergling | yea, the other 3 all got scores in the 60s |
| 19:25.39 | Ahli | DeadZergling just stomped them |
| 19:25.59 | DeadZergling | guess it pays to read instructions |
| 19:26.04 | DeadZergling | actually give them what they want, lol |
| 19:26.12 | Zolden | so, they won't get anything? |
| 19:26.26 | DeadZergling | no, you have to get a 75 average or higher |
| 19:26.30 | Zolden | omg |
| 19:26.32 | DeadZergling | or no prize money I guess |
| 19:26.33 | Zolden | poor guys |
| 19:26.42 | DeadZergling | poor guys, but I understand why they do it |
| 19:26.49 | DeadZergling | they don't want to reward crappy work |
| 19:27.33 | Zolden | so they even considered Jademuses work as crappy? |
| 19:27.42 | DeadZergling | jade actually had the decency to make something new |
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| 19:27.54 | DeadZergling | the other 2 guys just crapped clouds into their existing stuff |
| 19:28.03 | DeadZergling | so jade should be proud of that |
| 19:28.11 | unclesatan | where is jade anyway |
| 19:28.12 | unclesatan | lol |
| 19:28.18 | unclesatan | haven't seen him last few times i've been on |
| 19:28.33 | DeadZergling | one guy liked Jade's work |
| 19:28.36 | DeadZergling | the other 2 did not |
| 19:29.06 | unclesatan | so he left |
| 19:29.08 | unclesatan | ? |
| 19:29.21 | DeadZergling | im sure he just hasn't been around |
| 19:29.35 | Zolden | unclesatan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yzNKEaHExs |
| 19:29.36 | unclesatan | ahh |
| 19:29.46 | DeadZergling | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292/results does it let you guys see the results? |
| 19:29.53 | unclesatan | lol |
| 19:30.15 | unclesatan | yeah. |
| 19:30.35 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:30.42 | DeadZergling | wasn't sure how much it let just anybody see, I'm very new to the site, lol |
| 19:30.58 | Zolden | have you recieved the reward? |
| 19:31.07 | DeadZergling | not yet, but I will soon |
| 19:31.15 | DeadZergling | I did their little tax form yesterday |
| 19:31.19 | Zolden | how the pay? paypal? |
| 19:31.31 | Zolden | tax? wtf |
| 19:31.37 | DeadZergling | gave me a few choices |
| 19:31.53 | DeadZergling | I chose check, since paypal likes to take a little portion of money out |
| 19:32.02 | DeadZergling | screw that, I want it all :P |
| 19:32.04 | unclesatan | i'm still having that button problem |
| 19:32.27 | unclesatan | couldn't find anything on the forums and nobody has answered my topic yet. nothing on google or other sites |
| 19:32.36 | unclesatan | made it in GUI same problem |
| 19:32.39 | DeadZergling | button problem? |
| 19:32.44 | Zolden | jsut do it via gui |
| 19:33.00 | unclesatan | i did though |
| 19:33.01 | Zolden | gui button response works |
| 19:33.09 | unclesatan | i'll try it again but |
| 19:33.11 | DeadZergling | what problem is uncle having? |
| 19:33.12 | Zolden | if it doesn't do it the right way |
| 19:33.19 | unclesatan | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/galaxy-scripting-and-trigger-lib/53924-created-dialog-control-now/#p2 |
| 19:33.21 | unclesatan | that's the post |
| 19:33.30 | unclesatan | dialog buttons not responding to the event i use |
| 19:34.34 | DeadZergling | what event are you using? |
| 19:36.25 | DeadZergling | isn't clear to me from all that, i typically use GUI for dialog junk |
| 19:36.41 | unclesatan | I'm using the same event that GUI uses. |
| 19:36.45 | DeadZergling | I know they should be the same though |
| 19:36.52 | unclesatan | void gt_UntitledTrigger003_Init () { gt_UntitledTrigger003 = TriggerCreate("gt_UntitledTrigger003_Func"); TriggerAddEventDialogControl(gt_UntitledTrigger003, c_playerAny, c_invalidDialogControlId, c_triggerControlEventTypeClick); } |
| 19:37.03 | unclesatan | that's the event that GUI gave me |
| 19:37.08 | DeadZergling | ah okay, event type click |
| 19:37.22 | DeadZergling | I'm rather sleepy still it seems |
| 19:37.48 | unclesatan | hmm |
| 19:37.50 | unclesatan | trying something.. |
| 19:38.23 | DeadZergling | i trust you are assigning your button to a variable? |
| 19:40.03 | unclesatan | wow that is so dumb |
| 19:40.05 | unclesatan | omg. |
| 19:40.08 | unclesatan | so apparently |
| 19:40.11 | unclesatan | ok get this |
| 19:40.17 | unclesatan | the 3rd parameter of that event |
| 19:40.23 | unclesatan | the dialog part |
| 19:41.02 | unclesatan | i was using |
| 19:41.03 | unclesatan | c_dialogControlAny |
| 19:41.23 | unclesatan | because of course i'm thinking that means that any dialog control can be used for the event |
| 19:41.24 | unclesatan | no |
| 19:41.29 | unclesatan | c_invalidDialogControlId |
| 19:41.51 | unclesatan | means that any dialog control can be used for the event |
| 19:42.09 | DeadZergling | amazing naming there.... |
| 19:42.11 | unclesatan | i literally changed that and now all my buttons work |
| 19:42.17 | unclesatan | ikr.. |
| 19:42.37 | unclesatan | what does c_dialogControlAny do then? |
| 19:42.42 | unclesatan | is that teh control type or..? |
| 19:42.45 | unclesatan | lol.. |
| 19:42.51 | unclesatan | this language amazes me every day |
| 19:43.45 | DeadZergling | indeed, just have to learn to work with it |
| 19:44.03 | DeadZergling | it pisses me off every time i want to do a 1 line if/while action |
| 19:44.12 | DeadZergling | and it insists, oh no, you must use { } here too |
| 19:44.21 | unclesatan | lol |
| 19:44.26 | unclesatan | yeah |
| 19:44.30 | unclesatan | if's are rdiciulous |
| 19:44.34 | unclesatan | if i use an if |
| 19:44.37 | unclesatan | i try to keep it one line |
| 19:44.43 | DeadZergling | I'm poor at remembering function names |
| 19:44.52 | DeadZergling | so I use the gui for a lot of my event conditions and such |
| 19:44.56 | unclesatan | so that i can just be like if((blah+blah)){roarfunc(apwbohiawopbhawrob);} |
| 19:45.09 | unclesatan | ahh yeah |
| 19:45.22 | unclesatan | notepad ++ helps alot |
| 19:45.24 | DeadZergling | writing functions in gui isn't all bad either |
| 19:45.28 | unclesatan | i found a scripting auto-fill |
| 19:45.32 | unclesatan | for galaxy |
| 19:45.39 | unclesatan | yeah not at all |
| 19:45.40 | DeadZergling | they autoupdate if you change variable names |
| 19:46.11 | unclesatan | sometimes galaxy will write atrociously long script for things that could take 3 lines, but most of the time it's right on the money and will write stronger script than most people |
| 19:46.12 | unclesatan | lol |
| 19:46.31 | unclesatan | GUI, that is |
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| 19:46.46 | unclesatan | man that's a load off my chest though |
| 19:46.53 | unclesatan | my entire progression system wasn't working because of that |
| 19:46.58 | unclesatan | now it's all working muhahahaha |
| 19:50.10 | DeadZergling | what's this all for anyways? |
| 19:52.03 | unclesatan | my map |
| 19:52.07 | unclesatan | if you ever played anime fight |
| 19:52.09 | unclesatan | it's like that |
| 19:52.17 | unclesatan | i wanted stats and sc2 just does not have stats. |
| 19:52.23 | unclesatan | like STR or AGI |
| 19:52.44 | unclesatan | also the exp/bounty/vet thing is really weird so i made my own exp/level up system |
| 19:53.09 | unclesatan | it's not exactly like anime fight, but the premise is similar |
| 19:53.17 | unclesatan | 2 teams duke it out with cool characters |
| 19:53.20 | unclesatan | fight bosses |
| 19:53.25 | unclesatan | get stats |
| 19:53.26 | unclesatan | level up |
| 19:53.27 | G0A | Zolden actor event - actor creaton set scale to absolute. That might not works out in your case, but it worked in my case... |
| 19:54.11 | unclesatan | also made my own spell leveling system, since i don't like the way sc2 does it |
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| 19:55.09 | unclesatan | but all that needs buttons |
| 19:55.14 | unclesatan | that i click on to distribute points |
| 19:55.29 | unclesatan | and the button event wasn't working, i was gonna go insane after writing that much code xD |
| 20:00.15 | DeadZergling | I had similar thoughts about the veterancy system |
| 20:00.32 | DeadZergling | so I made it work differently for my RPG map too |
| 20:01.24 | DeadZergling | I probably could have made veterancy work, but I liked the idea of being able to hide your level |
| 20:01.27 | DeadZergling | from other players |
| 20:01.31 | Ahli | attributes are like stats... |
| 20:01.40 | Zolden | G0A i'll force the bitch to work in my case too! |
| 20:02.09 | DeadZergling | by the way Zolden, how go the animations? |
| 20:03.10 | Zolden | been mapping all day, maybe later |
| 20:04.24 | twodie | Zolden what you making? |
| 20:05.01 | DeadZergling | well, I'm sure everyone hopes a flop so he public releases the models :P |
| 20:06.49 | unclesatan | yeah you'll be able to see people's levels' on a leaderboard but not their personal stats |
| 20:07.03 | unclesatan | and attributes yeah they are like stats |
| 20:07.25 | unclesatan | but again my preference is to typing and the galaxy editor's interface is crazy and confusing lol |
| 20:07.44 | unclesatan | props to those who can navigate it |
| 20:10.33 | DeadZergling | props to me then, lol |
| 20:14.48 | DeadZergling | galaxy editor is very good for a lot of my design technique, agonize over something for hours, then copy paste it a lot |
| 20:15.11 | unclesatan | LMAO |
| 20:15.14 | unclesatan | sorry caps |
| 20:15.25 | DeadZergling | well you know how it can go |
| 20:15.25 | unclesatan | yes, i know the agonize over something for hours feeling |
| 20:15.32 | DeadZergling | you want something to go just like so |
| 20:15.48 | DeadZergling | then the next 18 somethings after it are almost identical, just slight variation |
| 20:16.06 | unclesatan | right, no fun redoing all of that 18 times |
| 20:16.34 | DeadZergling | haha no, you wouldn't believe how awful dynamic tooltips can be |
| 20:18.03 | DeadZergling | then someone had the audacity to ask for me to use different colors for my tooltips......... |
| 20:18.14 | DeadZergling | No, just no, I will not be using different colors at this time :P |
| 20:22.20 | unclesatan | loooolll |
| 20:22.32 | unclesatan | have to click through 1000 tooltips |
| 20:22.47 | DeadZergling | oh no, that isn't so bad |
| 20:22.58 | DeadZergling | I'm talking about keeping up to date tooltips on dialogs |
| 20:23.05 | Zolden | twodie i told you, that squad td-based td |
| 20:23.06 | unclesatan | ohhh |
| 20:23.14 | DeadZergling | based on str/dex/int/wis values |
| 20:23.26 | DeadZergling | ability level, etc |
| 20:23.31 | unclesatan | right |
| 20:23.33 | DeadZergling | oh and hero level too... |
| 20:23.39 | twodie | Zolden no worries will ask you tomorrow the same thing! Maybe you give more info in screens too! |
| 20:23.51 | DeadZergling | you know the handy little dref fields for tooltips right uncle? |
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| 20:23.55 | Zolden | twodie i can give you a screen right now |
| 20:24.03 | twodie | COOL |
| 20:24.05 | unclesatan | yea |
| 20:24.11 | DeadZergling | those don't work so good for dialogs |
| 20:24.38 | DeadZergling | it will give you up to date stuff sure, but it will give it to you for whatever player's unit you have picked |
| 20:25.53 | Zolden | twodie http://i.snag.gy/suNGF.jpg |
| 20:26.24 | DeadZergling | woot, a high elf barbeque |
| 20:26.36 | Zolden | twodie http://i.snag.gy/HHV7R.jpg |
| 20:27.08 | DeadZergling | those are the highest elves I've seen in awhile |
| 20:27.10 | DeadZergling | as in, stoned |
| 20:27.22 | Zolden | u stoned? |
| 20:27.55 | DeadZergling | nope |
| 20:31.19 | twodie | okay thats soemthing |
| 20:32.37 | twodie | http://i.imgur.com/XEaRFXq.jpg |
| 20:33.07 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 20:33.11 | DeadZergling | mnm huh. Will your next project be Skittles Zolden? |
| 20:33.31 | Zolden | twodie they have never seen hitler |
| 20:33.42 | G0A | twodie n1 :) |
| 20:33.55 | Zolden | DeadZergling why? |
| 20:34.09 | DeadZergling | M&Ms are a popular candy in US :P |
| 20:34.28 | Zolden | oh :) |
| 20:34.43 | DeadZergling | so M&M, or MnM |
| 20:34.50 | DeadZergling | it sounds like a candy game |
| 20:38.12 | unclesatan | those models look great man |
| 20:38.22 | unclesatan | i gotta go guys, thanks for everything |
| 20:38.25 | unclesatan | <3 |
| 20:39.54 | twodie | http://i.imgur.com/afo9GTr.gif |
| 20:46.13 | Ahli | I can't get death customize to use the proper actor for the death model >_< |
| 20:47.03 | Ahli | not sure if it is working at all with death customize... I use isStatus term to check for a status when DeathCustomize event is played. |
| 20:48.56 | Zolden | :)) |
| 20:49.32 | Zolden | Ahli is it supposed to replace the main death model? |
| 20:49.35 | Zolden | i want it too |
| 20:50.10 | Ahli | my mages have different textures, but I want to use the same unit for them |
| 20:50.23 | Ahli | so the death model needs to change the texture accordingly |
| 20:51.12 | Ahli | that's why I'm trying to swap the death actor via a custom death which is validated via a status I set on the unit at birth |
| 20:51.26 | Zolden | oh |
| 20:51.42 | Zolden | how about blood fountains? |
| 20:51.57 | Ahli | that's low death model |
| 20:52.15 | Ahli | also, hitting an enemy creates blood already |
| 20:52.31 | Ahli | when you didn't deal fire/lightning/magic damage |
| 20:52.40 | Ahli | those create their own hit effects |
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| 20:55.02 | Zolden | i can only say that hots zealot has something to do with customize deathes |
| 20:55.22 | Ahli | just like zergling |
| 20:55.51 | Ahli | maybe the status is already cleared when the unit dies? |
| 20:56.04 | Ahli | but its in that actor's events... it should survive that long |
| 21:11.31 | Islamazoon | Ahli, do you know what gramamtical cases are? |
| 21:11.38 | Islamazoon | Nominativ, accusativ, genitiv, dativ etc? |
| 21:12.50 | Ahli | I've heard of them before, but I don't know which is what |
| 21:13.25 | Ahli | I can tell you if a sentence is correct or incorrect according to my experience. |
| 21:15.25 | Islamazoon | Kueken, you? |
| 21:15.35 | Islamazoon | wer, wessen, wem, wen |
| 21:19.35 | Islamazoon | Ahli, ehh, basically, Der Mesch gibt dem Menschen einen Menschen |
| 21:19.39 | Islamazoon | That makes sense right? |
| 21:19.44 | Islamazoon | der Mensch* |
| 21:20.26 | Ahli | Der Mensch gibt dem Menschen einen Mensch. |
| 21:20.46 | Islamazoon | You lie |
| 21:20.50 | Islamazoon | It's einen Menschen |
| 21:21.39 | Ahli | uhm... I don't think so |
| 21:22.08 | Ahli | but "einen Menschen" feels quite good, too |
| 21:22.54 | Ahli | maybe you are right... I've no clue |
| 21:23.03 | Kueken | einen Menschen is possible |
| 21:23.16 | Kueken | its sort of old-fashioned, but should still be valid |
| 21:23.50 | DeadZergling | what does that mean anyways, einen Menschen? |
| 21:24.01 | Ahli | a human |
| 21:24.09 | DeadZergling | in this channel? |
| 21:24.33 | Ahli | A human gives another human a human. (that's basically what he wrote) |
| 21:26.13 | Ahli | the damned status doesn't seem to work :X |
| 21:27.06 | Zolden | fuck nice |
| 21:27.13 | Zolden | mapping feels so good with art tools |
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| 21:27.46 | Zolden | no more sad searching amongst effects to find the appropriate |
| 21:30.06 | Zolden | now I understand waht hitler felt when he could smply ask his scientists and engineers to create the missiles and planes and tanks he needed |
| 21:36.56 | Zolden | DeadZergling well, doesn't seem like i'll do anims today |
| 21:37.14 | Zolden | maybe i should just spend a day on models ppl wait from me |
| 21:38.16 | Zolden | 5 ppls do |
| 21:46.56 | DeadZergling | that's okay Zolden, isn't like I'm paying or anything, really appreciate it when you can do it |
| 21:48.58 | Ahli | hmm, status is working fine. I can create fireworks actor instead of the customized death |
| 21:50.21 | Ahli | events: <On Terms="UnitDeathCustomize; IsStatus texture 2" Send="DeathCustomize Skin2"/> |
| 21:50.23 | Ahli | custom death: <DeathCustoms ActorModel="bbbDarkMageDeathModelSkin2" ModelLink="aaaOverlordDeath" Name="Skin2"/> |
| 21:55.17 | Zolden | nice |
| 21:57.09 | Ahli | same :) |
| 22:07.26 | Zolden | so, maybe ssomeone has it in a top of one's head: damage response suppose to hurt attacker, what unit should it be in damage effect? target? |
| 22:10.01 | DeadZergling | sounds right to me |
| 22:10.31 | DeadZergling | not at home though, I have a behavior/damage effect just like the one you described in my project, lol |
| 22:11.08 | Zolden | and looks right to me |
| 22:11.13 | Zolden | and feels right to someone else |
| 22:33.19 | Zolden | shy doesn't my unit rotate to autocast? |
| 22:33.31 | Zolden | only autocasts if i rotate it to possible target |
| 22:33.44 | Zolden | s/shy/why/ |
| 22:33.51 | Zolden | crap |
| 22:37.40 | DeadZergling | wait, so is the problem not rotating, or not autocasting, lol |
| 22:38.10 | Zolden | yea, it's a normal rotating unit, and it has autocast |
| 22:41.05 | DeadZergling | guessing the issue is soemthing's arc |
| 22:41.11 | DeadZergling | just not sure what |
| 22:41.39 | Zolden | but why not it rotate? |
| 22:41.44 | Zolden | it actually has transient |
| 22:41.47 | Zolden | flag |
| 22:41.56 | Zolden | maybe that's why |
| 22:44.50 | Ahli | bnet update agent stopped working o_0 |
| 22:46.27 | Zolden | ok, 12 hours of mapping is enough |
| 22:46.35 | Zolden | good job, Zolden |
| 22:46.45 | Zolden | ty |
| 22:49.43 | DeadZergling | naw, 13 hours is a cooler number |
| 22:51.29 | Zolden | i like odd numbers |
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