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| 01:22.05 | Ahli | argh, debugging something for hours is bad :< |
| 01:23.02 | DeadZergling | why you say that? |
| 01:24.02 | Ahli | that I'm making a big stretch to debug something, but I think I just found the problem |
| 01:24.31 | Ahli | my code generated pillars in a wall where floor should have been |
| 01:36.23 | Ahli | soo, finally fixed... peww |
| 01:41.15 | egod | How can i (Cache) my bank information like this guys did: <Section name="lll|||||II||III|l|l|l||lI|28"> |
| 01:41.24 | egod | is this easy to do or? |
| 01:41.36 | DeadZergling | easy, but annoying |
| 01:41.54 | egod | ok and why its annoying? |
| 01:42.17 | DeadZergling | is a lot of counting chars |
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| 01:42.34 | egod | and how i can do that? |
| 01:42.58 | DeadZergling | is lots of ways, is up to you |
| 01:42.59 | Ahli | cache? |
| 01:43.07 | DeadZergling | you are talking about storing bank information as strings, right? |
| 01:43.10 | egod | ya like....you cant see the real info |
| 01:43.21 | egod | no i mean |
| 01:43.26 | Ahli | more like protecting |
| 01:43.51 | egod | i dont want people see the integer number of section X like: experience = 8 i want sometyhing like... experience = "*&/(*!"&/(*!&"/(!&"/(&/"(!& gg |
| 01:44.14 | DeadZergling | yea, what you want is encrypting and such I think |
| 01:44.20 | Ahli | starcode with a altered alphabet for example |
| 01:44.28 | DeadZergling | yep, that would do it |
| 01:44.38 | Ahli | but starcode is used everywhere and there is a program that figures that out afaIk |
| 01:44.55 | egod | is it easy to use? |
| 01:44.56 | DeadZergling | my banks are so confusing in their pure form |
| 01:45.01 | DeadZergling | that i'm not all that worried about hacks |
| 01:45.02 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 01:45.31 | Ahli | I was thinking about storing hashes of my data within the bank and compare that to the hash I generate... |
| 01:46.15 | egod | you bank in Dia blo Mortar is not encrypted |
| 01:46.17 | Ahli | I only implemented a hash for item IDs so far... it's only a dupe protection in my map right now |
| 01:46.20 | egod | i can see all number |
| 01:46.40 | Ahli | yes, my banks aren't protected yet |
| 01:47.17 | egod | hmm |
| 01:47.20 | DeadZergling | one annoying thing you can do is store all numbers as a base not commonly used, and forget to mention the base, lol |
| 01:47.21 | egod | well |
| 01:47.23 | Ahli | only signature... |
| 01:48.05 | Ahli | but signature has only little protection value atm |
| 01:48.08 | DeadZergling | is nice for compacting it too, I can hold values past 6400 in 2 chars for example |
| 01:48.25 | Ahli | in my case, starcode created too much lag |
| 01:48.29 | Ahli | so I didn't use it |
| 01:48.37 | egod | i see |
| 01:48.56 | egod | so what should i use then? only signature and wait for a better (server Side) bank system from blizzard? :P |
| 01:49.12 | DeadZergling | is no real way to truly protect your map |
| 01:49.19 | DeadZergling | at this time |
| 01:49.30 | Ahli | ^ |
| 01:49.33 | DeadZergling | just make it harder |
| 01:54.37 | DeadZergling | but anyways, I use a funny number base to store most values, give no hints/clues in the bank strings, most of it is random item codes. For the most part edits will result in people starting the game with empty inventories.... lol |
| 01:55.01 | DeadZergling | I mostly did it this way for compactness, but it is so confusing I got an extra security feature out of it too |
| 01:55.26 | egod | how to hack a signature then? |
| 01:55.32 | egod | its so simple? |
| 01:55.52 | Ahli | there is a program that re-validates a bank |
| 01:56.25 | egod | hm |
| 01:56.48 | DeadZergling | I'm out anyways, all done at work for today |
| 01:56.49 | Ahli | signature == person needs that program to successfully edit your bank |
| 01:56.49 | DeadZergling | laters |
| 01:57.10 | Ahli | bb |
| 01:57.17 | egod | i see |
| 01:57.43 | egod | how starcode work? |
| 01:57.52 | egod | it look like the only way |
| 01:58.26 | Ahli | starcode translates values that you save into a base of the length of the alphabet you use |
| 01:58.50 | Ahli | 0123456789 would be the alphabet of normal numbers... |
| 01:59.26 | Ahli | hexadecimal uses 0123456789ABCDEF... and in starcode your alphabet is editable and uses ~80 chars |
| 02:00.03 | egod | it probably lag for you cause you saving each x second i guess ? cause me, i save only on demand, its not no-stop |
| 02:00.23 | Ahli | well, yes. |
| 02:00.37 | egod | k |
| 02:00.39 | Ahli | also, I'm saving all data and not only the data that changed |
| 02:00.54 | egod | its why |
| 02:01.11 | egod | ok well, will check starcode later |
| 02:02.29 | Ahli | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/md5-hash/ this is what I might use to protect hero and items later on... |
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| 02:05.50 | egod | its the same thing as Starcode i think no ? |
| 02:09.42 | Ahli | no |
| 02:10.38 | Deaod | i hope you dont plan on using md5 |
| 02:10.48 | Ahli | why? |
| 02:10.54 | Deaod | its broken |
| 02:12.06 | Ahli | then create a better hash lib |
| 02:12.10 | Ahli | and I use that |
| 02:12.34 | Deaod | oh, that library supports SHA256 apparently |
| 02:12.44 | Ahli | yes |
| 02:13.23 | Ahli | but that library can be broken via overflowing it with input data |
| 02:15.00 | Ahli | at least I was breaking it at some point with my item data |
| 02:17.18 | Deaod | what are you going to use it for? |
| 02:19.24 | Ahli | atm I'm using it to create a pretty unique hash which is one part of my dupe protection |
| 02:20.09 | Ahli | dupe creationg = copy bank, drop items for a friend, restore bank, receive items back or play with friend who has now dupes of your items |
| 02:20.56 | Dogmai | that is easy to do ahli |
| 02:21.11 | Ahli | what? a secure hash in sc2? |
| 02:21.25 | Dogmai | dupe protection for items |
| 02:21.33 | Ahli | implemented that already |
| 02:21.39 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 02:21.48 | Dogmai | well you're just pro |
| 02:21.51 | Dogmai | <3 |
| 02:22.09 | Ahli | :D |
| 02:23.35 | Ahli | well, but I would need a relatively secure & fast hashing method to validate the item data that was loaded from banks. |
| 02:24.06 | Deaod | you realize people can just insert a new and valid hash? |
| 02:24.23 | Ahli | for my dupes? |
| 02:25.14 | Deaod | for your data validation |
| 02:25.30 | Ahli | well, it's better than nothing (= current state)... |
| 02:25.47 | Ahli | they can always create proper banks when they can access the map's code |
| 02:26.11 | Deaod | which is ... always? |
| 02:27.20 | Deaod | idk, it makes cheating a bit harder |
| 02:27.43 | Ahli | yes... you can't do more because you trust client data |
| 02:29.58 | Ahli | only banks saved @Blizzard's end would solve that problem... |
| 02:30.21 | Ahli | so, the only way is making it harder to alter values. |
| 02:32.00 | egod | why you saving each 0.x second ? |
| 02:32.37 | egod | you could just save after each action like, grab a item...drop a item |
| 02:33.26 | Deaod | but then you need to remember to save after each relevant action |
| 02:33.48 | Deaod | using a timer involves less effort and is almost as good |
| 02:34.27 | Deaod | also, sometimes youre not sure what actually influences the data youre saving |
| 02:34.37 | Ahli | well, I might alter it one day, but it was an easy efficient solution :D |
| 02:34.47 | egod | lol ok ;) |
| 02:35.32 | Ahli | same as my item stats calculations... I'm not adding/subtracting values, I'm recalculating everything... |
| 02:35.50 | egod | ahh |
| 02:36.03 | egod | its a good way to |
| 02:36.14 | egod | i thinnk i recalculating to |
| 02:36.17 | egod | oh n o |
| 02:36.19 | egod | i dont |
| 02:36.30 | egod | oh yes i did |
| 02:36.39 | egod | i recalculate each slot item |
| 02:36.44 | egod | each time a new item come |
| 02:36.49 | Ahli | well, I did that like that in my diablo 1 attempt in SCBW already :D |
| 02:41.13 | Batomys | How often do they feature a map on Arcade? |
| 02:41.16 | Batomys | Every 2 weeks? |
| 02:43.35 | Batomys | Seems like actor event tint color apply doesn't show in the editor anymore (does work in-game though) |
| 02:43.42 | Batomys | Or did I just disable it somehow? |
| 02:48.32 | Ahli | I know that it works with opacity |
| 02:52.52 | egod | there some HUGE lag spike when a player enter in my map lol |
| 02:53.00 | egod | 1-2 second of freeze |
| 02:53.29 | egod | i could imagine when 5xplayer entering nearly same time |
| 02:53.32 | egod | :( |
| 02:54.27 | Ahli | the biggest lags I have during play is when an area is loaded/unloaded and the trigger debugger doesn't even register the load |
| 02:54.51 | Ahli | it's created by the data table. |
| 02:55.07 | Ahli | at least I think that |
| 02:55.16 | egod | me its some loop |
| 02:55.20 | egod | big loop |
| 02:55.39 | egod | i am running something 800xtimes at the begin, and that its |
| 02:55.53 | egod | (its for updated the ladder board via each players) |
| 02:55.59 | egod | like a auto-update |
| 02:56.13 | Ahli | at the beginning of the map start? |
| 02:56.27 | egod | no, just when a player entering the game |
| 02:56.37 | egod | i mean... a hero |
| 02:56.38 | Ahli | can't you do that before the player enters the game? |
| 02:56.42 | Ahli | yes |
| 02:56.57 | Ahli | it doesn't seem to depend on the hero the player loads/creates |
| 02:57.02 | Ahli | *dependent |
| 02:57.08 | Ahli | *depend |
| 02:57.54 | egod | whatever |
| 02:57.58 | egod | its needed |
| 02:58.04 | egod | it can be improved but well |
| 02:58.39 | egod | if i reduce the ladderboard to top 50 rank, would be better |
| 02:58.44 | egod | for now, its top 100 |
| 02:59.45 | egod | and this is only for Softcore ladderboard....i didnt load the Hardcore one yet amg :( |
| 03:00.41 | Ahli | can't you just load them at map start for all players? it would take a moment then when the lag doesn't hurt anyone |
| 03:01.03 | egod | hm |
| 03:01.22 | Ahli | like I'm creating all dungeons completely at map start |
| 03:01.37 | Ahli | and now I'm even preloading the heroes, too |
| 03:02.01 | Ahli | so there is no big lag when you alter the hero in my load selection screen |
| 03:02.51 | egod | i see |
| 03:03.07 | egod | what if |
| 03:03.18 | egod | a player drop during loading or something like that ? |
| 03:03.49 | egod | at the begin, nthere always some (guys lagging) |
| 03:04.06 | Ahli | his bank data is still shared before map start |
| 03:04.17 | egod | ahhh |
| 03:04.20 | egod | yeah |
| 03:04.22 | egod | true |
| 03:04.26 | egod | that make sense |
| 03:07.28 | egod | its why when my computer dropping, i still have my ladderboard loader...i was wondering how that was possible |
| 03:07.38 | egod | cause it pre-load |
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| 03:53.53 | egod | i just look the Starcraft Universe Forum/website...its only spamming bot everywhere and the lastest news was 35 days before...i guess its over |
| 03:55.41 | Ahli | why is that? people tend to take breaks from project from time to time |
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| 04:13.29 | egod | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1860609015/mineralz-evolution/comments |
| 04:37.35 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YpZAO3cBp50&t=10 |
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| 04:39.32 | egod | lol |
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| 05:01.30 | Cardanis | So, quick question |
| 05:02.27 | Cardanis | I'm trying to make a footprint for a doodad |
| 05:02.32 | Cardanis | but . .. it's off by half a cell |
| 05:02.52 | Cardanis | is there a way to shift the model 0.5 in a direction? |
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| 05:03.07 | draktok | deadzergling |
| 05:03.08 | draktok | shit |
| 05:03.15 | draktok | jademussreg can you link my that contest page again |
| 05:03.18 | draktok | i forget what it was called |
| 05:03.19 | Cardanis | I tried to make an actor event, but there's only set position, which doesn't let me set it relative to its current position |
| 05:03.46 | draktok | Or does anyone know the page name for that cloud something contest |
| 05:05.15 | draktok | had to use their logo |
| 05:05.16 | draktok | in the map |
| 05:05.19 | draktok | some how |
| 05:05.31 | draktok | and there was some other rules |
| 05:05.36 | draktok | but i don't remember what the name of the site was |
| 05:05.39 | draktok | purl deadzergling |
| 05:06.22 | Cardanis | okay, another question that might solve this: Can I use a host site operation relative to itself? IE, can I just apply it to a doodad actor, and have it shift itself? |
| 05:09.18 | draktok | fuckkkkk how does no one hear know |
| 05:12.00 | Ahli | Cardanis: you can just displace it with a hosted site operation, yes |
| 05:16.19 | Cardanis | kk. It's being difficult about it, but oh well |
| 05:16.23 | Cardanis | one last question. . . |
| 05:16.31 | Cardanis | So, doodad with custom footprint |
| 05:16.36 | Cardanis | when I rotate it 90 degrees |
| 05:16.44 | Cardanis | the pathing area of the footprint rotates with it |
| 05:16.48 | Ahli | footprints don't rotate |
| 05:16.57 | Cardanis | however, I'm just now noticing, that . . . the Placement Apply doesn't? |
| 05:17.12 | Cardanis | so it doesn't then |
| 05:17.19 | Cardanis | why did i decide to do this . . . |
| 05:17.21 | Cardanis | lol |
| 05:17.40 | Ahli | you would need to create different versions of the same doodad with different angles |
| 05:17.52 | Ahli | or just rotate it and paint the pathing in terrain editor |
| 05:18.04 | Ahli | if the doodad is not destructible |
| 05:18.26 | Cardanis | yaaaa, that's the conclusion I came to |
| 05:18.28 | Cardanis | <(T_T)> |
| 05:18.56 | Cardanis | aaaaand with that I'm going to bed in despair lol |
| 05:18.58 | Cardanis | night! |
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| 05:55.15 | draktok | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292 hey nerd lords check this out |
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| 07:25.41 | Kueken | Shark. |
| 07:26.32 | uglyduck | worm |
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| 08:29.30 | Zolden | hello |
| 08:29.39 | Zolden | how do you do, dear mapmakers |
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| 08:42.25 | uglyduck | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292 |
| 08:42.26 | uglyduck | ghelalalsdo |
| 08:44.09 | duckies | I can't quite figure out what emotion that was supposed to represent. Excitement? dissapointment? curiosity? or did you just faceroll keyboard to escape the endless loop of boredom?\ |
| 08:54.49 | uglyduck | yeah! |
| 08:55.05 | Zolden | duckies since that includes "lsd", the emotion is rather a mix of excitement, confusion, amazement, insanity and obsession |
| 08:55.40 | Zolden | and also absolute love |
| 08:56.25 | Zolden | too many dycks here today, don't quack too much to not attaract hunters |
| 08:56.33 | duckies | how wonderful :3 It did seem like something caused by showing absolute love to your keyboard |
| 08:56.52 | Zolduck | okay |
| 08:57.00 | Zolduck | don't worry, I'm masked |
| 08:57.03 | Zolden | omg, a hybrid! |
| 08:57.36 | Zolden | I imagine it like a Conan the barbarian with a huge beak |
| 08:58.10 | Zolden | and he sounds like quarg |
| 08:58.11 | Zolduck | with huge beak and huge duck legs :> |
| 08:59.00 | Zolduck | so.. what do you all think of that cloudspoke map challenge? |
| 09:00.36 | Zolden | i think it's a slutery |
| 09:00.47 | Zolden | they want slut maps to suck their cloudy logo |
| 09:02.18 | Zolduck | well, if there wasn't that then it would literally be "make any map in 7 days and get 100$" |
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| 09:03.58 | Zolduck | though incorporating that logo in map is an annyoing requirment ;/ |
| 09:04.17 | Zolden | i even lzay to make that logo of bricks in my arcanoid map and pretend i made it for them |
| 09:04.38 | Zolduck | =D |
| 09:06.15 | Zolduck | I actually want to do it since I like not redicilous map-making events. and time restriction is pretty good too |
| 09:06.35 | Zolden | i like your attitude |
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| 09:08.39 | Zolduck | curious about what sort of madness Jade will come up with |
| 09:09.06 | Zolden | he wil also participate? |
| 09:09.15 | Zolduck | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292/participants |
| 09:09.43 | Zolduck | he has the intention it seems |
| 09:10.40 | Zolden | would be cool to overmap him |
| 09:12.58 | Zolden | what should I use in a TD map where magic works together with industry? |
| 09:13.30 | Zolden | need 4 different builders |
| 09:13.48 | Zolduck | I want to see Tesla Towers and Magick lightning towers :3 |
| 09:15.14 | Zolden | builders, I need builders |
| 09:15.33 | Zolduck | need 4 different themes? |
| 09:15.33 | Zolden | they bneed components to look like a creating sttructure, not like a destruction one |
| 09:16.10 | Zolden | yea, one for melee-oriented, one for ranged-oriented, also for magic-oriented and for balanced one |
| 09:16.36 | Zolden | and it's the last models to create before I dive into a stream of mapping obsession |
| 09:17.11 | Zolduck | hm, you're not constantly in the state of mapping obsession? |
| 09:17.23 | Zolden | yea, i make maps rare |
| 09:17.27 | Zolden | but intensively |
| 09:17.42 | Zolden | last time i was mapping was december 2012 |
| 09:18.35 | Zolduck | wel, my whole td experience can be summed up with "tested zoldens pig tower defense map 3 times". So I can't help you with anything TD related =D |
| 09:19.26 | Zolduck | ah, so you're either in modeling frenzy or in mapmaking frenzy |
| 09:24.51 | Zolduck | I've lately been pretty slow, doing one small thing a day, wheither it's sketching gameplay or implementing minor functions. But I think I've found my pace where I won't get burned out =} |
| 09:26.36 | uglyduck | http://www.cloudspokes.com/challenges/2292 |
| 09:26.44 | Zolden | it doesn't matter, whether or not you burned out, you're obsessed with mapping too, and you can't leave it |
| 09:29.02 | Zolden | uglyduck waht is your opinion? |
| 09:29.09 | uglyduck | on what? |
| 09:29.35 | Kueken | on ugly ducks |
| 09:29.43 | uglyduck | they are ugly :( |
| 09:30.01 | Kueken | thats not an opinion, thats in the job description |
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| 09:48.23 | uglyduck | and AWAY |
| 09:51.47 | Zolden | uglyduck noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! |
| 09:51.58 | uglyduck | mm? |
| 09:52.10 | Zolden | don't gow away! |
| 09:53.25 | uglyduck | gau! |
| 09:53.32 | uglyduck | well im still here for now alive |
| 09:53.52 | Zolden | too late! |
| 09:53.54 | uglyduck | but the duckies dont want to go for a mood for being AwaY |
| 09:54.17 | Zolden | away means ass-way |
| 09:55.01 | duckies|cleavage | well that didn't go so well |
| 09:55.16 | duk | damn that name cutting :< |
| 09:55.48 | Zolden | applies nuclear fusion to duckies |
| 09:56.26 | dukleries | thanks zolden for the treat |
| 09:56.58 | Zolden | I just marked you so aliens could easier aim |
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| 10:11.00 | Zolden | that protoss obelisk building - what is it? is it used anywhere? |
| 10:11.44 | uglyduck | in campaign with protoss. |
| 10:12.07 | uglyduck | you need to power ut the buildings for more protoss essance |
| 10:12.15 | uglyduck | in WoL |
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| 10:14.46 | Zolden | reaper humping a building http://i.snag.gy/d0Dl2.jpg |
| 10:16.54 | Zolden | s/reaper/reaver/ |
| 10:40.29 | uglyduck | lets click the shit out of you! |
| 10:48.25 | Zolden | left click the shit out of you |
| 10:48.43 | dukleries | click uglyduck |
| 10:49.22 | duckies | doubleclicks uglyduck |
| 10:49.31 | uglyduck | closes. |
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| 10:54.55 | uglyduck|closed | http://youtu.be/JqLiVfWTix8 |
| 11:17.35 | uglyduck|closed | 123 |
| 11:23.48 | Zolden | crape, i hate terraining, picking terrain tiles |
| 11:25.55 | Zolden | feel so disoriented |
| 11:26.04 | Zolden | so not possible of deciding what's better |
| 11:27.41 | Kueken | the left one |
| 11:28.31 | Kueken | also, you could just make your own terrain |
| 11:28.55 | Kueken | you know how to create a normal ma for it, the diffuse should be no problem, and you can model your own cliffs |
| 11:31.03 | Zolden | thanks, I can't decide between the existing and good lookoing one, adding ugly looking one instead is a good option |
| 11:34.49 | uglyduck|closed | http://www.jonlajoie.com/kickstarter |
| 11:34.55 | duckies | pick that blue sand brick roads spiky trees one zolden |
| 11:35.08 | duckies | Monlyth I think it's called |
| 11:35.47 | Zolden | ok |
| 11:36.11 | Zolden | have em in list yet |
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| 11:38.47 | Zolden | it's the same shit like when i chose between instruments to create a new music with |
| 11:39.31 | Zolden | so many sounds and no visible reasons to prefer one over another |
| 11:39.40 | Zolden | fucking hell |
| 11:40.19 | duckies | which one have you used less than others? |
| 11:40.48 | duckies | or which one have you seen less used than others? add some diversity to the arcade zolden! |
| 11:41.11 | Zolden | yea, this was a criteria i used |
| 11:42.45 | duckies | well, alternatively you could go to TL to map art thread and get inspired by some very impressive terrain work |
| 11:43.19 | uglyduck|closed | or go to google maps |
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| 11:43.29 | uglyduck|closed | recreate north korea |
| 11:43.52 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:44.24 | Zolden | well, my only concern is to spend as less time on this part as possible |
| 11:45.24 | duckies | why, terraining is such a wonderful activity, it once killed my desire to map for about four months =D |
| 11:45.33 | Zolden | :) |
| 11:46.13 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.29 | Zolden | maybe i need to go to terraining subforum and create a thread "hey, terrainers, u noob and suck", which will amuse me |
| 11:46.36 | duckies | tell us more about things you can't do goose =D |
| 11:47.00 | Zolden | yea, gooose, this turns me on when i see noobs struggle with actors |
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| 11:47.44 | uglyduck|closed | 231 |
| 11:47.51 | duckies | 0 0 0 |
| 11:48.09 | uglyduck|closed | 001010111 |
| 11:48.12 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.38 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:48.55 | duckies | your performance can't statisfy chain lightning beams, you're too unexperienced for them :D |
| 11:49.18 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:49.44 | duckies | as helpful as the description of the issue you gave us |
| 11:50.21 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:50.43 | duckies | does it work there? |
| 11:51.00 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:51.30 | uglyduck|closed | and AWAY |
| 11:51.54 | duckies | aaw now he's truly closed :\s |
| 11:52.00 | duckies | :'s |
| 11:52.15 | duckies | s/:'s/:> |
| 11:52.25 | duckies | how do you fix stuff? :/ |
| 11:52.59 | Zolden | punch butt |
| 11:53.09 | Zolden | s/punch/kick/ |
| 11:53.26 | duckies | typa error |
| 11:53.28 | Zolden | u forgot closing slash |
| 11:53.50 | duckies | s/typa/typo/ |
| 11:53.58 | duckies | ah thank you zolden |
| 11:54.01 | Zolden | s/u/You, dear sir, / |
| 11:54.03 | duckies | and thank you purl |
| 11:54.45 | Zolden | s/u forgot closing slash/penis/ |
| 11:54.57 | duckies | s/and thank you purl/go tho hell purl/ |
| 11:55.32 | duckies | hn, that wasn't nice, now I feel bad |
| 11:56.38 | duckies | goose, I'm sorry but I can't help you, whenever I needed to do something awesome with them I always consulted our german chicken |
| 11:58.47 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.57 | Zolden | why all birds |
| 12:03.22 | gooose | -bunnyrabbit? |
| 12:03.30 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:06.11 | Zolden | what would be better is is you'd figure out how to visualize beams |
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| 12:09.45 | Kueken | attach to _ImpactGuide |
| 12:10.16 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:10.27 | Kueken | :P |
| 12:11.11 | duckies | harr, I've been sketching stuff for that logo map challenge and everything I come up with feels cheap, bad and requiring more iteration time x_x |
| 12:11.36 | Kueken | alright, gooose, give me xml |
| 12:12.11 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:12.21 | Kueken | :) |
| 12:12.26 | Kueken | then do that |
| 12:12.48 | Kueken | just don't try to imitate mutalisk attack as an ability |
| 12:12.51 | Kueken | it won't work |
| 12:13.03 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.19 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:13.21 | Kueken | phew |
| 12:13.37 | Kueken | wait, just the effect? |
| 12:13.41 | Kueken | via trigger? |
| 12:14.56 | Kueken | well, if you get it to work, it doesn't matter anyway |
| 12:15.19 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:15.41 | Kueken | ah, yes, I remember |
| 12:16.18 | Kueken | and now you use a missile-based approach for the chain |
| 12:16.36 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:16.48 | Kueken | and I assumed, you try to replicate the mutalisk weapon effect chain |
| 12:18.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.18 | Kueken | yeah, beams can be a bitch |
| 12:21.39 | Kueken | mine refuse to work just now as well, and all i did was change the model, then undo |
| 12:22.10 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:23.14 | Kueken | that being said, if your effect chain worked properly already, I am pretty sure, there would be a way to make the beams show |
| 12:24.39 | A1win | https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BLkeTe2CIAEHC7l.jpg |
| 12:24.47 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.40 | Kueken | germany currently drowns |
| 12:26.36 | Deaod | been raining for like three days |
| 12:27.41 | Kueken | in monsoon areas, nobody would lift an eyebrow |
| 12:28.05 | Kueken | but here people go crazy |
| 12:29.39 | Zolden | A1win what do u mean by that picture? |
| 12:30.22 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.42 | A1win | just to show how much temperature changes in 3 months here ;p |
| 12:31.51 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:32.30 | Zolden | A1win this year it changed the same way in about 3 weeks here |
| 12:32.44 | A1win | hehe |
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| 12:39.20 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 12:39.28 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 13h 9m 58s ago, saying: 'I'm out, adios :)'. |
| 12:45.04 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:48.46 | Kueken | the SpecialEffectChainLightninbg is the first in the chain, I assume? |
| 12:49.13 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.41 | Kueken | and it searches in a 0.19 radius? o_0 |
| 12:49.51 | Kueken | why not execute it on the target directly? |
| 12:50.37 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.52 | Kueken | so it is the search for the hit collision as well? |
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| 12:55.10 | Kueken | copying the xml data to a map causes the beams to show up |
| 12:55.29 | Kueken | they connect from caster to each bounce target, though |
| 12:55.40 | Kueken | in your map, they don't show up at all? |
| 12:55.43 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:55.47 | Kueken | k |
| 12:56.07 | Kueken | I execute them with an ability, thats probably different |
| 12:56.11 | Kueken | hm |
| 12:56.25 | Kueken | you execute them after suiciding the missile, right? |
| 12:56.35 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:57.01 | Kueken | I have an ability running the delay 1 effect |
| 12:57.17 | Kueken | since I thought it was pointless to run the search here |
| 12:57.24 | Kueken | rying the search now |
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| 12:58.03 | Kueken | search effect works nicely |
| 12:59.10 | Kueken | also got the beams from target to target, its an easy fix |
| 12:59.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.30 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:59.44 | Kueken | its probably executed by the missile unit, not by the actual caster |
| 12:59.58 | Kueken | and since the missile unit is gone by then, it malfunctions |
| 13:00.40 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:02.50 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:04.02 | Kueken | try changing the Death Time of the missile to something like 5 seconds |
| 13:04.08 | Kueken | see if it changes anything |
| 13:05.37 | gooose | i could make it not suicide if thats what you mean? |
| 13:06.14 | Kueken | the Death Time field of the unit is what I mean |
| 13:06.45 | Kueken | you could make it not suicide as well, if it doesn't reach its destination |
| 13:07.09 | Kueken | but that may lead to other issues |
| 13:07.20 | Kueken | like the effect being executed more than once |
| 13:07.48 | Kueken | which in turn could make it harder to find the problem |
| 13:09.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.03 | Kueken | did it change anything? |
| 13:10.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:10.41 | Kueken | so the first beam in the chain is always casted? |
| 13:10.53 | Kueken | and the others don't appear= |
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| 13:14.16 | Kueken | position of the original cast |
| 13:14.19 | Kueken | of the missile? |
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| 13:15.13 | Kueken | ok |
| 13:15.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.37 | Kueken | try changing the Launch Request field to _ImpactGuide |
| 13:15.45 | Kueken | see what it does |
| 13:19.46 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.25 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:20.26 | Kueken | let me guess, first jump still messed up, bot subsequent ones bounce correctly? |
| 13:20.30 | Kueken | :) |
| 13:20.42 | Kueken | now |
| 13:20.49 | Kueken | reset the events to parent |
| 13:21.09 | Kueken | select GenericAttack parent |
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| 13:23.09 | Kueken | kk |
| 13:23.23 | Kueken | and your events are grey now, as in unmodified? |
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| 13:26.32 | Kueken | ah |
| 13:26.41 | Kueken | from the impact guide of your missile... |
| 13:26.54 | Kueken | your missile uses an action actor then, I assume? |
| 13:26.55 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:27.30 | Kueken | okay, select that, find the Impact Guide Alias field and change it |
| 13:27.43 | Kueken | to whatever, not important now |
| 13:29.56 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:30.28 | Kueken | you can select custom and use an empty string :D |
| 13:30.46 | Kueken | or name it like _ImpactGuide2 |
| 13:30.58 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.01 | Kueken | whatever, it just cannot be _ImpactGuide |
| 13:31.07 | Kueken | nah, not always |
| 13:31.16 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.35 | Kueken | hm |
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| 13:32.30 | Kueken | all changed fields now are beam and launch request, right? |
| 13:32.40 | Kueken | (and probably editor category) |
| 13:32.55 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.58 | Kueken | yes |
| 13:33.33 | gooose | art beam; launch attchment querry; launch request; and the names |
| 13:33.44 | Kueken | k |
| 13:34.04 | Kueken | launch attachment query is something like Center? |
| 13:34.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.22 | Kueken | so that shouldn't interfere as well... |
| 13:37.54 | Kueken | try to launch your missile with an ability instead of via trigger, see if it makes a diffeence |
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| 13:40.18 | Kueken | yes it shouldn't |
| 13:40.21 | Kueken | try it anyway |
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| 13:41.23 | Kueken | k |
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| 13:50.19 | Kueken | well, you could use the launch site operations, SOpCasterUnit would make sure its on the caster |
| 13:50.42 | Kueken | but that could probably break the chain |
| 13:50.54 | Kueken | so you would need a separate ator for the first chain link |
| 13:51.00 | Kueken | *actor |
| 13:51.37 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:52.44 | Kueken | hopefully the caster, otherwise I am sure you can modify your effect chain to make it the caster :D |
| 13:53.24 | Kueken | try the sop with this actor first |
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| 13:53.55 | Kueken | it could be, I have no idea how your colliding missile is set up |
| 13:54.09 | Kueken | when I set up a colliding missile it would be the caster |
| 13:54.18 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:54.32 | Kueken | because I usually make sur ethe impact effects are all casted by the caster and not the missile |
| 13:55.41 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:56.52 | Kueken | ah, you want it to start from the impact |
| 13:56.57 | Kueken | then try another so |
| 13:56.58 | Kueken | p |
| 13:57.07 | Kueken | like soptargetpoint |
| 13:57.11 | Kueken | or sourcepoint |
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| 14:11.10 | Kueken | as expected |
| 14:11.16 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:13.02 | Kueken | markers wouldn't interfere here, though |
| 14:13.55 | Kueken | can easily make delay 1 apply markers and check for no markers in the set/damage effects |
| 14:14.10 | Kueken | instead of the target exclusions |
| 14:14.12 | Kueken | but nvm |
| 14:15.06 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.32 | Kueken | they probably had their reasons |
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| 14:36.43 | gooose | ~kick himself |
| 14:36.43 | purl | ACTION kicks himself |
| 14:36.48 | gooose | ~hail gooose |
| 14:36.49 | purl | ACTION bows down to gooose and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 14:39.14 | gooose | ~hail kueken |
| 14:39.14 | purl | ACTION bows down to kueken and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 15:36.53 | gooose | ~silence |
| 15:36.59 | gooose | ~die |
| 15:36.59 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:37.09 | gooose | ~revive |
| 15:37.18 | gooose | ~hail gooose |
| 15:37.18 | purl | ACTION bows down to gooose and chants, "I'M NOT WORTHY!!" |
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| 16:51.05 | Dustin | o.O |
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| 17:30.31 | Dustin | Quite today, too quite. |
| 17:30.46 | Vailreth | poof |
| 17:33.51 | Vailreth | i still have no ideas... |
| 17:34.59 | Dustin | For what |
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| 17:42.38 | Vailreth | a map, abilities, what ever. |
| 18:02.02 | Dustin | Help me with my map then Vailreth, I need a bunch of weapons/armors/abilities made :D |
| 18:02.24 | Vailreth | like what? |
| 18:02.37 | Vailreth | id be glad to lend a hand for abit |
| 18:03.04 | Vailreth | get this it is illegal in texas to commit a crime against some one with out giving wirten or oral notice atleast 24 hours in advance and detaling the crime that is intended to be committed... |
| 18:03.14 | Dustin | Oh I did't think you'd actually offer :O |
| 18:03.19 | Dustin | Lol that's crazy Vailreth |
| 18:03.28 | Vailreth | and true im afraid |
| 18:03.44 | Dustin | I live in Kansas, so I've seen stupid texas crap, I would believe it |
| 18:04.11 | Vailreth | * nods* |
| 18:04.27 | Dustin | Let me see if I still ahve my weapon documentation |
| 18:05.14 | Vailreth | if you have a list of abilitys with descriptions id prefer abilities to weapons |
| 18:06.19 | Dustin | That would be even better |
| 18:08.01 | Vailreth | would you want a preveiw map, or perhaps a mod file so you can intrigrate my contributions eaiser, with a test map based on it? |
| 18:09.00 | Dustin | A mod file would be great, I can make my own test based on that, unless you want to include both :) Whatevers easier for you |
| 18:09.18 | Vailreth | well its whats more fun, |
| 18:10.00 | Vailreth | ok what dependcies are you using WoL and Campaign, Blizz mods? HotS and campaign? |
| 18:10.41 | Vindicator | heya, do you guys know if theres a way to return what animations exist for a model? like if a model only had a stand animation, is there a way to get access to that info? |
| 18:10.41 | Dustin | I haven't added HOTS yet, but I think Im going to real soon, other than that Im using all the depends I think |
| 18:10.54 | Dustin | Yes, opent he model in the Cutscene editor |
| 18:11.00 | Vindicator | i mean in-game |
| 18:11.07 | Vindicator | is there a way to return that info |
| 18:11.19 | Vindicator | or get access to it somehow |
| 18:11.31 | Dustin | Ohhh, JademusSreg was talking about a way to get some model info a while back that seemed to not be fully implimented yet |
| 18:11.36 | Dustin | But im not sure exactly |
| 18:11.46 | Vailreth | why would you need to do that at runtime? |
| 18:12.25 | Vindicator | i'm making a model viewer program and i want to either highlight the animation names that exist in a list of all possible animations, or make buttons next to the model that have a button for each animation it has |
| 18:13.00 | Vindicator | if this is possible, it would take minutes, if not, it would take days or weeks to accomplish |
| 18:13.08 | Vailreth | well good luck with that project. |
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| 18:17.55 | Dustin | Vailreth, Im writing out some of the abilities now |
| 18:18.15 | Vailreth | ok |
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| 18:51.57 | Zolden | hi pros |
| 18:53.24 | Dustin | hi |
| 19:00.39 | nudemandrifting | hey high man |
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| 19:03.15 | Zolden | try this |
| 19:03.16 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GAloXGFJRcY |
| 19:03.17 | Zolden | funny |
| 19:03.34 | Zolden | everyone likes vids from russia |
| 19:03.45 | Zolden | nudemandrifting nude marine? |
| 19:03.56 | nudemandrifting | okay |
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| 19:09.20 | Kueken | remind me to never drive anything smaller than a tank in russia |
| 19:09.38 | Zolden | or better a space rocket |
| 19:11.54 | Kueken | nothing funny about that video, though |
| 19:12.45 | Dustin | Zolden, your people need to learn how to fucking drive. |
| 19:13.11 | Zolden | your people need to drive how to learning fuck |
| 19:13.32 | Zolden | ku, it's optimistic, isn't it? |
| 19:14.09 | Zolden | MoonEater i've got it, u're MooNeater, you make cows look elegant |
| 19:15.09 | Dustin | MooNeater makes so much more sense |
| 19:25.06 | DeadZergling | Was mocking a guildies name earlier, he chose the name Starpo |
| 19:25.20 | DeadZergling | So I called him Star Poo the Brown Dwarf |
| 19:25.28 | DeadZergling | he didn't think it was so funny |
| 19:25.45 | Kueken | so his dwarf pooed all over you |
| 19:26.04 | DeadZergling | naw, he just raged in guildchat and made himself look bipolar, mostly |
| 19:26.08 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 19:27.36 | DeadZergling | not sure why he got so upset, I had far less fun with his name, than another one.... |
| 19:27.44 | DeadZergling | Someone had the great idea to name themselves MagicButterfly |
| 19:28.33 | DeadZergling | Aside from the obvious Magic Butt shortening of the name |
| 19:28.49 | DeadZergling | can also say really weird sentences involving Let the Magic butter fly! |
| 19:29.22 | DeadZergling | And for some reason their pet was named Bananas too... |
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| 19:30.31 | Dustin | My wow hunter pet was named tugboat |
| 19:31.00 | DeadZergling | guessing your character name didn't sound like magical lubricant though |
| 19:31.14 | MoonEater | Wtf.. |
| 19:31.19 | Dustin | Nope lol |
| 19:31.32 | MoonEater | U guys keep setting off my phone at work |
| 19:31.45 | Dustin | lol |
| 19:32.14 | MoonEater | Bastards... |
| 19:32.19 | Kueken | yeah, the last caller was me |
| 19:32.26 | Kueken | recognize my accent? |
| 19:32.30 | MoonEater | Its cool cause I work alone |
| 19:32.32 | MoonEater | XD |
| 19:32.46 | MoonEater | The Mexican? |
| 19:33.03 | MoonEater | <--is in california |
| 19:33.32 | Kueken | more german, probably |
| 19:33.45 | DeadZergling | close enough |
| 19:36.12 | DeadZergling | lived in WA state most my life, people think I'm from the South :P |
| 19:36.44 | Dustin | Best thing about being from kansas, no accent |
| 19:36.49 | DeadZergling | like Arkansas/Alabama south :P |
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| 19:43.51 | Zoldun | Zol-rangers assemble! |
| 19:44.19 | Zoldun | it's time to maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap! |
| 19:44.24 | Zoldun | falls asleep |
| 19:44.25 | Zolden | let's zoldenize more unzoldees |
| 19:44.27 | Zoldan | to NAP |
| 19:44.39 | DeadZergling | looks like Zolden prime gets to be in the middle of a Zolden zanwich |
| 19:44.43 | Zolden | do it the zolden way |
| 19:44.43 | DeadZergling | kinky |
| 19:45.03 | DeadZergling | it is a Zorgy |
| 19:45.25 | Zolden | i'm protecting myself from the raugh unzoldenized world |
| 19:47.08 | Zoldan | Zoldun what you made for our organizition today? |
| 19:47.08 | Zolden | also, it's like a growing crystal, it consumes matter to grow |
| 19:47.48 | Zolden | it infects outer world with zoldessence |
| 19:48.15 | Zolden | and grows exponentially like a population of vampires |
| 19:48.44 | Zolden | if a livekind get zoldenized, it will never become a normal self again |
| 19:49.42 | Zolden | it may look like old self, but when it relax, it evolves back to zolden shape |
| 19:50.23 | Zolden | but the thing is that it's good to be oldenized, none of creatures regretted after zoldenization |
| 19:50.44 | Zolden | they go outside and tell everyone: hey, it's great to be zoldenized, join us and feel happy |
| 19:50.53 | Zoldun | today I have praciced the ways of zoldenizm, one step into divinity, another into insanity. It was a nice day |
| 19:51.26 | Zolden | police sometimes uses gas agains zolden riots, but sometimes zolden riots win and push police back |
| 19:51.40 | Zolden | so they have to call army, but zoldens may push it back too |
| 19:51.41 | MoonEater | I call spam |
| 19:52.02 | Zolden | once goverment was 1 stap away from using a nuke agains a huge city full of zoldens |
| 19:52.20 | Zolden | but we had a zolden in goverment to convince not too use nuke |
| 19:52.50 | Zolden | after we take over the Earth, we will spread outside |
| 19:53.04 | Zoldan | "Germans are'nt happy unless their starting a war." |
| 19:53.17 | Zoldun | aye, a zolden in a right place and a right time can make all the difference |
| 19:53.22 | Zolden | our friends have speceships prepared to fly outside the solar system, there our alien friends have prepared galaxy ships to travel anywhere |
| 19:53.31 | Zolden | the galaxy will be zoldenized one day |
| 19:54.31 | Zolden | but first we need to fight chip and dale, darkwing duck and ninja turtles to get rid of the competitors |
| 19:54.50 | Zolden | we are, the 3 zoldens will do Gadget 3 ways in front of chip and dale |
| 19:54.51 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:54.58 | Zoldun | damnit, why must you tempt me so? |
| 19:55.25 | Zolden | because zoldens are united and synchronized in their wishes |
| 19:56.18 | Zoldun | I see. The perfect unity |
| 19:57.25 | Zolden | zoldenity |
| 19:57.32 | Zoldun | should we adapt a more unique way of speaking, like this? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeboqg4t9vs |
| 20:01.06 | Zolden | this is a matter of nearest time |
| 20:02.00 | Zoldun | I was mistaken, zolden have no comparison in existing for of self-expression. Forgive me my lack of zolden sense. I shall stand on-by in the anticipation of this coming age. I sense it, a zolden era is upon us |
| 20:03.43 | Zoldun | I shall now take my leave to ponder about the significance of our emrgence |
| 20:04.24 | Zoldun | turns into a bubble and rides the flow of the wind |
| 20:06.30 | Zoldun | gasps for air |
| 20:06.53 | duckies | phew, it feels like I had a horrible dream |
| 20:08.14 | DeadZergling | Look Zolden, a talking duck! |
| 20:08.36 | duckies | doesn't even compare to a dead talking zergling :D |
| 20:08.49 | DeadZergling | Sure it does |
| 20:09.33 | DeadZergling | the real question is, why don't you talk more like Donald duck :P |
| 20:09.54 | Zolden | oh, one of zoldens fall asleep |
| 20:09.57 | Zolden | give him a rest |
| 20:10.13 | Zolden | he will need energy for our further activity |
| 20:10.14 | DeadZergling | yes, that Zolden probably had too much weed |
| 20:10.58 | DeadZergling | anyways, finally put my Knight class together enough to publish a new version to Bnet |
| 20:11.23 | DeadZergling | apparently my weirdly named, not meant to be seen map got 2 reviews |
| 20:11.27 | duckies | dead, is it for that hologrim rpg? |
| 20:11.39 | DeadZergling | yea |
| 20:11.52 | duckies | ooh, you've had a public version? |
| 20:12.01 | DeadZergling | yes, but not in arcade |
| 20:12.04 | DeadZergling | and weirdly named |
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| 20:12.10 | DeadZergling | was mostly so my testers could get a look at it |
| 20:12.16 | duckies | tell me more |
| 20:12.19 | DeadZergling | if you search for RPG in custom maps section |
| 20:12.22 | DeadZergling | it'll pop up |
| 20:13.06 | DeadZergling | had to nerf the hell out of the knight class unfortunately, he was too strong, lol |
| 20:13.36 | DeadZergling | he is still probably too strong, but will take a lot more work to get that strong |
| 20:17.40 | duckies | neat way of hiding map you have here :D |
| 20:19.08 | duckies | hah, move order model is so biig.. oh wait, it's just that everything else is scaled down :D |
| 20:24.32 | duckies | well, it's awesome |
| 20:25.37 | duckies | but with flaming cows and all I'm almost disappointed that starting area isn't a place of lush green fields, rivers, lepricons and evil animal cult with sinester plans to take over the world |
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| 20:31.12 | DeadZergling | green fields and rivers are Area 2 :P |
| 20:31.20 | DeadZergling | if you beat the first boss, you can have your green fields |
| 20:32.09 | DeadZergling | I'm a strong believer in starting off with the lamest monsters, introduce people to the game |
| 20:32.27 | DeadZergling | then feel free to throw in cheating monsters all over later, lol |
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| 20:36.10 | duckies | yeah, this is good. Hope I'll remember to come back to it later :D\ |
| 20:36.28 | A1win | hmm... I started to think about how to make an UI for FPS game where you can tell your camera's pitch in a dark room, tried using a gradient that fades in/out at top/bottom of screen but it just made it look like there's a ground/ceiling >_> |
| 20:36.54 | A1win | like this (you can walk on the abyss without falling to test it) http://a1win.pp.fi/games/unity/fps/FPS2.html |
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| 20:37.05 | DeadZergling | I'm sure it will gain some popularity when I finally do release it to the arcade |
| 20:37.24 | DeadZergling | I only got my first 2 Areas done, is about 6-8 hours of gameplay just like that |
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| 20:37.31 | DeadZergling | have 6 more planned |
| 20:38.11 | DeadZergling | Long I know, but is what RPG players want, progression |
| 20:38.30 | DeadZergling | work towards getting stronger, beating tougher enemies, rinse repeat |
| 20:39.23 | duckies | it's what I wanted when I was a kid, nowadays I'll probably be like "and rpg map that takes 12 grind hours to complete? no thanks =D" |
| 20:39.41 | duckies | s/and/an/ |
| 20:41.14 | DeadZergling | Oh I know what you mean, the bosses are meant to be a good distraction to that |
| 20:41.33 | DeadZergling | something to work towards beating. |
| 20:41.59 | DeadZergling | Quests will help to that end too, if I can ever force myself to make a decent Quest UI |
| 20:42.40 | DeadZergling | Gonna have to come up with something for my undead/aqua areas though, supposed to need to do quests to be able to see ghosts, be able to travel in the water freely |
| 20:42.52 | DeadZergling | that is a long ways away though |
| 20:43.51 | Zolden | pen |
| 20:43.58 | Zolden | s/n/nis/ |
| 20:45.18 | Zoldan | tits |
| 20:48.54 | DeadZergling | what is your idea of a great map anyways duckies? lol |
| 20:49.06 | DeadZergling | typewise I mean |
| 20:52.54 | duckies | dead, a map that you can beat in 1-1,5 hours but it's designed in such way that it's very hard to beat it |
| 20:53.30 | duckies | and your success rate isn't based on how well you can grind or the order in which you purchase your items |
| 20:53.35 | DeadZergling | ah, might like the little project I'm doing as a contest entry here soon then |
| 20:53.37 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 20:54.25 | DeadZergling | I do know what you mean, my thoughts for Horo were people could play a few hours at a time, come back and pick up where they left off whenever |
| 20:54.33 | DeadZergling | try to get friends to help, etc |
| 20:55.08 | DeadZergling | Gonna have fun and just make an arena/smash tv style map |
| 20:55.30 | DeadZergling | where only one person lives every time, entire point is to not die before the other guy, lol |
| 20:55.39 | duckies | =D |
| 20:55.51 | DeadZergling | can't attack each other though |
| 20:55.58 | duckies | it's what you're making for that cloud contest? |
| 20:56.02 | DeadZergling | yea |
| 20:56.10 | DeadZergling | I know how to do a lot of things from my Horo project |
| 20:56.26 | DeadZergling | think that style will be my strongest entry |
| 20:56.31 | DeadZergling | in such a short time frame |
| 20:57.26 | DeadZergling | the survive to win aspect is great, since I won't have to balance it too much |
| 20:57.33 | DeadZergling | is perfectly fine if one round slaughters everyone |
| 20:57.35 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 20:57.55 | duckies | I've been thinking about what could I do myself, but no matter what I think of everything feels plain and uninspired. Don't want to do pvp, so means a co-op. Since I pretty much only like hero games right now it has got to be a hero coop. So what, a hero survival? but then I got to throw that annoying logo somewhere too :D |
| 20:58.25 | DeadZergling | yea, the done in about 10 mins in MS Paint logo |
| 20:58.58 | duckies | and the only way I can think of adding a logo in a significant way is to make it a terrain |
| 20:59.04 | DeadZergling | I'm gonna keep it simple, use the logo as the arena center piece |
| 20:59.25 | DeadZergling | you see it THE WHOLE TIME, but it isn't real dominating |
| 20:59.52 | duckies | but there are many other superrior terrain designs so no matter what I do It feels like the damn logo is there not for game mechanics or immersion, but just because it's a requirement :D |
| 20:59.54 | DeadZergling | final boss gonna be the 8 terrible cloud beasts |
| 21:00.03 | duckies | =D |
| 21:00.04 | DeadZergling | use a combination of their logo colors and my monster making skills |
| 21:00.28 | duckies | they are gonna pour a colorfull rain on you :D |
| 21:00.29 | DeadZergling | go with what you strong with, ya know? |
| 21:00.47 | duckies | aye |
| 21:00.51 | DeadZergling | terraining is NOT what I am strong with |
| 21:00.54 | DeadZergling | neither are beautiful terrains |
| 21:00.58 | DeadZergling | errr, UIs |
| 21:01.09 | DeadZergling | fun slaughterfest, oh yea |
| 21:01.14 | DeadZergling | I am right there, lol |
| 21:01.41 | duckies | oh man, it's awesome outside |
| 21:01.59 | duckies | pitch black night + rain + thunder + lightning |
| 21:02.12 | duckies | +12am and I'm on the 9th floor :D |
| 21:02.15 | DeadZergling | sure you live on earth and not Equestria? |
| 21:02.17 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 21:02.56 | duckies | I wonder how it feels to be struck by lighning |
| 21:03.01 | DeadZergling | am happy I got my Knight done on time anyways |
| 21:03.09 | duckies | probably feels like dying :| |
| 21:03.13 | DeadZergling | stick a fork in an electric socket |
| 21:03.18 | DeadZergling | you'll get an idea |
| 21:03.41 | duckies | yea.. that' not a very comfortable feeling ;/ |
| 21:04.02 | DeadZergling | now just light yourself on fire, and keep that fork held in there for a good few seconds |
| 21:04.10 | DeadZergling | think you will know what lightning is like |
| 21:06.41 | duckies | isn't lightning supposed to be instant? |
| 21:07.14 | DeadZergling | oh fine, use several plugins at once |
| 21:07.22 | duckies | much better =D |
| 21:07.28 | DeadZergling | btw, makes me think of this awesomeness from Dr. Mcninja |
| 21:07.29 | DeadZergling | http://www.topatoco.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=TO&Product_Code=RB-FIRE&Category_Code=RB |
| 21:07.48 | duckies | ahahah xD |
| 21:12.44 | DeadZergling | gonna be fun throwing some of my creations in an arena environment, lol |
| 21:13.51 | DeadZergling | especially the exploding Ladies round |
| 21:18.01 | Zolden | ninjers |
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| 21:20.55 | draktok | dang jade |
| 21:21.00 | draktok | i have no ideas for that silly cloud spokes thing |
| 21:31.31 | DeadZergling | oh, I came up with one already |
| 21:34.29 | DeadZergling | finished up my Knight class last night instead of starting on the cloud spokes though |
| 21:34.58 | Zolden | duckies btw, did you try that anim? |
| 21:35.08 | Zolden | i'm curious what happens at its end |
| 21:35.21 | Zolden | does the model spins back |
| 21:36.48 | duckies | zolden, I viewed it in cinematics editor |
| 21:36.55 | duckies | in there it seems to loop nicely |
| 21:37.09 | Zolden | ok |
| 21:37.09 | duckies | any reason it could behave differently in-game? |
| 21:37.18 | Zolden | don't think so |
| 21:37.31 | duckies | ah, that reminds me |
| 21:37.36 | Zolden | because start frame is the same for all other anims |
| 21:37.49 | duckies | can you make animation play backwards? |
| 21:38.18 | Zolden | you mean create the same anim spin in a different direction? |
| 21:38.22 | Zolden | or a general way? |
| 21:38.29 | duckies | general way |
| 21:38.34 | Zolden | I think it may be possible |
| 21:38.46 | Zolden | i'm even sure |
| 21:38.49 | Zolden | i just don't know how |
| 21:39.14 | duckies | that would be cool. Looping in backwards via triggers just feels abit unnatural in-game :/ |
| 21:39.22 | Zolden | sure it is |
| 21:41.43 | DeadZergling | I figured you were halfway done already draktok |
| 21:41.46 | DeadZergling | why you weren't on, lol |
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| 21:45.50 | draktok | oh |
| 21:45.56 | draktok | family wanted dinner |
| 21:46.01 | draktok | went and saw a movie and the like |
| 21:46.01 | DeadZergling | Shit Draktok, you the one who convinced me I should at least try to submit something, you letting me down :P |
| 21:46.07 | draktok | they don't make it over to this side of town often |
| 21:46.12 | draktok | so i had to step away ;P |
| 21:47.31 | DeadZergling | well for me draktok, I'm making something based on my strengths |
| 21:48.43 | DeadZergling | something I know I can throw together in that short of time frame |
| 21:50.57 | duckies | the more I think about it the more I just want to make a map where anthropomorphic ducks throw rock pillars at each other in attempt to kick themselves away from cloud-logo shaped arena :/ |
| 21:51.18 | DeadZergling | sounds awful duckies |
| 21:51.34 | duckies | their logo is awful ;/ |
| 21:51.36 | duckies | =D |
| 21:51.48 | DeadZergling | well you just have to use it as inspiration |
| 21:52.06 | DeadZergling | not make an entire crappy cloudiverse out of it |
| 21:52.13 | duckies | I did use it. It lead me to realize how unimaginative I am :P |
| 21:53.23 | duckies | well, I have 2 days of hard physical labor ahead of me, so I'll have plenty of time to ponder on the issue some more =D |
| 21:53.26 | DeadZergling | someone who names himself duckies feels unimaginative? What's the world coming to. |
| 21:54.12 | draktok | Haha! |
| 21:54.35 | DeadZergling | well, feeling pretty sure about getting 2nd place at the minimum at this rate, lol |
| 21:55.43 | duckies | worst case scenario I'll make a multiplayer puzzle map where you need to color 8differently alligned collumns in different colors =D |
| 21:56.08 | DeadZergling | think your rock pillar idea was better |
| 21:56.34 | duckies | uses idea fusion |
| 21:56.47 | duckies | make that colored rock pillar idea! |
| 21:56.49 | DeadZergling | that won't work, do what I do when I am stumped |
| 21:56.56 | DeadZergling | take a shit |
| 21:57.08 | duckies | but I'm all out of shit D: |
| 21:57.12 | DeadZergling | I emerge refreshed and full of insight |
| 21:57.23 | DeadZergling | typically I have a great idea before I leave |
| 21:57.50 | DeadZergling | no worries duckies, I am certain in the next 7 days |
| 21:57.54 | DeadZergling | you will have shit |
| 21:59.13 | DeadZergling | could just give up and make a terrain for me, I fucking hate terraining |
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| 21:59.39 | duckies | terrain is easy |
| 21:59.44 | duckies | just pick castanar |
| 21:59.46 | draktok | i have the best idea |
| 21:59.49 | duckies | then hide all terrain cells |
| 21:59.50 | draktok | everyone else shouldn't try now |
| 21:59.57 | duckies | now you have an awesome space terrain |
| 21:59.58 | duckies | :D |
| 22:00.16 | duckies | there is nothing cooler than space |
| 22:00.18 | duckies | :3 |
| 22:01.36 | DeadZergling | best idea != best execution |
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| 22:04.38 | DeadZergling | best idea can't be mentioned huh draktok? |
| 22:05.03 | duckies | what sort of nonsense is that? Surely all you have to do is belive in yourself! ♫♫ you're the best around ♫ nobody is going to keep you down ♫♫ |
| 22:05.30 | DeadZergling | I think everyone is screwed, since i'm gonna play Eye of the Tiger music while editing |
| 22:05.40 | DeadZergling | no chance against that |
| 22:06.23 | duckies | oh man, my attempt is already forfeit, I got nothing on that |
| 22:06.54 | DeadZergling | and if I'm really feeling ruthless |
| 22:07.04 | DeadZergling | I'll listen to some Rocky 4 training music instead |
| 22:11.10 | DeadZergling | your puzzle map description gives me a headache trying to imagine anyways |
| 22:11.23 | DeadZergling | not sure if I can handle many more duckies ideas :P |
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| 22:12.14 | duckies | that's because you're not a duck |
| 22:12.25 | DeadZergling | neither are you |
| 22:12.29 | DeadZergling | you are several |
| 22:15.14 | duckies | I am the collective consciousness of deveral ducks around the globe projected into the internet |
| 22:15.39 | DeadZergling | not familiar with duck language, what does deveral mean? |
| 22:15.41 | duckies | so yea, don't mind me as I'm beind non-sencial |
| 22:15.42 | duckies | :D |
| 22:15.51 | duckies | several |
| 22:15.52 | duckies | D: |
| 22:16.24 | duckies | typing with beak is so much fun I tell ya |
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| 22:23.21 | duckies | alright, time to start making sense before I forget how it feels to be sane |
| 22:29.17 | draktok | deadzergling |
| 22:29.27 | draktok | i will give you one hint - where's waldo |
| 22:29.42 | Zolden | where's dildo |
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| 22:29.52 | DeadZergling | you are sitting on it Zolden |
| 22:30.06 | Deaod | errrr |
| 22:30.08 | Zolden | oh, right |
| 22:30.15 | Deaod | doesnt that hurt |
| 22:30.33 | DeadZergling | I see, that's good, will be absolutely nothing like mine |
| 22:30.49 | Zolden | in soviet russia you hurt dildo |
| 22:31.13 | DeadZergling | in soviet russia, Zolden take dildo up the gremlin |
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| 22:34.17 | DeadZergling | starting to understand why I no get animations when I mock Zolden like that, lol |
| 22:35.38 | Zolden | i was busy coordinating other zoldens in our world conquering activity |
| 22:36.23 | DeadZergling | is a probe how you keep connected? |
| 22:37.39 | Dustin | :O |
| 22:38.19 | DeadZergling | Certainly explains that Zorgy earlier. |
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| 23:06.56 | draktok | shit shit shit shit shit shit shit |
| 23:11.18 | DeadZergling | following my advice well there draktok, well done. |
| 23:11.24 | DeadZergling | let the ideas flow through you! |
| 23:11.29 | draktok | lol! |
| 23:12.55 | DeadZergling | what you saying that about anyways :P |
| 23:18.26 | draktok | i keep dying in rising storm |
| 23:18.38 | draktok | and every time i'm walking and suddenly a burst of machine gun fire from the window makes me shit my pants |
| 23:18.53 | draktok | turned up speakers and it's dark in tha room, burst of fire loud as fuckkk |
| 23:19.46 | DeadZergling | hrrrrmmm, you enjoy that pants shitting I take it? |
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| 23:24.41 | Cardanis | Quick Question: I've got a custom doodad, In the Host Site Operations I've put a site ops of type local offset |
| 23:24.51 | Cardanis | but the doodad model is still appearing in the same place |
| 23:25.30 | Cardanis | What could I be missing? |
| 23:31.38 | Ahli | normally I would say nothing |
| 23:33.22 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.37 | Ahli | ^ is a local offset site operation actor |
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| 23:38.55 | Cardanis | okay. . . .so |
| 23:39.05 | Cardanis | Its a doodad with a footprint (I want the footprint to stay where it is) |
| 23:39.11 | Cardanis | I place it, and it DOESN'T work |
| 23:39.16 | Cardanis | until I place a doodad without a footprint |
| 23:39.18 | Cardanis | on top of it |
| 23:39.24 | Cardanis | and then the first one jumps to the right position |
| 23:39.31 | Cardanis | and then if I delete the second doodad |
| 23:39.34 | Cardanis | the first one stays there |
| 23:39.37 | Cardanis | . . . ? <(0_o)> |
| 23:39.43 | Cardanis | does that problem ringa bell at all? |
| 23:40.02 | Ahli | does it work properly ingame? |
| 23:40.59 | Cardanis | after I do that thing I just mentioned, ya |
| 23:41.41 | Ahli | seems like a bug in the editor with updating the position with hosted site operaitons |
| 23:41.56 | Cardanis | scratch that, it actually doesn't |
| 23:42.08 | Cardanis | i just tested it in game after 'updating' it |
| 23:42.14 | Cardanis | and it went back to the original position |
| 23:42.20 | Ahli | =/ |
| 23:42.29 | Cardanis | but you said your doodad worked fine? |
| 23:42.39 | Ahli | I used that for a unit |
| 23:42.55 | Cardanis | (brb in a while, sorry) |
| 23:51.25 | Bounty | pew |
