| 00:00.01 | CloudWolf | yea, also a good plan :) |
| 00:00.04 | CloudWolf | night all |
| 00:00.05 | JademusSreg | Too many people lose work. |
| 00:09.59 | SunMonkey | how do I show you guys triggers to ask for advice? |
| 00:11.30 | SunMonkey | This is my current trigger. How do I make it so that Player 1 and Player 2 aren't starting game before/after each other? |
| 00:11.31 | SunMonkey | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3119 |
| 00:13.36 | JademusSreg | With separate triggers entirely. |
| 00:14.02 | SunMonkey | gah |
| 00:14.07 | JademusSreg | I jest. |
| 00:14.13 | SunMonkey | Probably need new variables eh? |
| 00:15.31 | JademusSreg | This code is not logically packaged. The button sets the state of the player. When all active player states are set to valid states, -then- you create shit based on those states. |
| 00:16.07 | JademusSreg | You'll probably also want to include a timer to prevent stall-grief. |
| 00:17.11 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 00:44.25 | Fate | hey guys i have a problem i cant save my map as a component folder |
| 00:44.41 | Fate | someone knows what may be the reason for this? |
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| 02:09.03 | egod | check this |
| 02:09.05 | egod | http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1860609015/mineralz-evolution |
| 02:09.32 | egod | will you give 10 000$ for this? |
| 02:09.35 | egod | come on!!! |
| 02:15.38 | A1win | http://what-if.xkcd.com/46/ |
| 02:22.25 | Vailreth | ack he is from texaks |
| 02:22.29 | Vailreth | texas* |
| 02:22.33 | Vailreth | i am so ashamed |
| 02:31.33 | A1win | http://i.imgur.com/GS8UtpG.jpg |
| 02:31.37 | A1win | Christian Bale |
| 02:33.22 | Vailreth | http://thefump.com/fump.php?id=1148 |
| 03:23.50 | zeldarules28 | oh wow, mineralZ went live :D |
| 03:24.13 | zeldarules28 | I'm really happy to see they approved that one, I wasn't sure if it would work because it was an sc2 mod |
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| 04:25.07 | Work|Eimtr | when you set a no ground path in the footprint, one square there equals how much on the terrain |
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| 05:20.22 | draktok | damnit, where is zolden |
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| 05:40.05 | G0A | Ohh my, the new Star Trek movie is a hugel crap |
| 05:40.54 | draktok | yes it is |
| 05:41.11 | draktok | hey so does anyone know a whole lot about sound ? |
| 05:41.30 | draktok | I imported some sounds and the footmen when he is ready and when he dies the sound plays globally to all players, does anyone know why? |
| 05:41.50 | draktok | i didn't really edit any options for any of the sounds, and the selecting commands are just to that player, but ready and death are played to all players global |
| 05:42.09 | draktok | oh and attacking sounds are just to the player owning the unit as well |
| 05:47.58 | MoonEater | Lolall about money with u egod |
| 05:51.31 | draktok | why is edgot about money |
| 05:51.45 | draktok | also mooneater do you know anything about sounds |
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| 06:49.45 | MoonEater | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:49.47 | MoonEater | i know alittle sure |
| 06:49.58 | MoonEater | draktok |
| 06:49.59 | draktok | Actually I think i figured it out - thanks, though! |
| 06:50.09 | MoonEater | np |
| 06:50.12 | draktok | I didn't realize i had created an event |
| 06:50.12 | MoonEater | NExt time |
| 06:50.17 | draktok | That played the sound |
| 06:50.19 | MoonEater | ping the other moon eater |
| 06:50.38 | draktok | which was making the sound global, but i didn't need to do that, there is a death voice actor you can tie to the unit |
| 06:50.43 | draktok | which seems to not be a global sound |
| 06:50.43 | MoonEater | the other moon eater is my cell |
| 06:50.54 | MoonEater | its hjow u define it in data |
| 06:50.55 | draktok | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.03 | draktok | also thanks that is good to know about the cell |
| 06:52.17 | draktok | i just made two actors, one for genericattack and one for oneshotsound and had both actors playing the sounds for the units |
| 06:52.28 | draktok | i don't remember why i did that and i believe the soundoneshot was playing the sound globa |
| 06:52.43 | MoonEater | these r unit sounds io take it |
| 06:52.51 | MoonEater | or specific to a object |
| 06:52.52 | draktok | removed it and it still plays the sound and it doesn't double up anymore (i could hear both sounds before, one half a second after the other) so ithink the soundoneshot was doing it twice |
| 06:52.54 | draktok | yes unit sounds |
| 06:52.58 | draktok | unit death, unit attack, unit birth |
| 06:53.05 | draktok | but you don't need a unit birht sound just a unit ready sound |
| 06:53.09 | MoonEater | then ya needs an anctor |
| 06:53.10 | draktok | and it will play the sound when the unit is built |
| 06:53.20 | draktok | yeah the problem is i made two actors for some reason |
| 06:53.24 | MoonEater | i dont know much about sounds on actors |
| 06:53.24 | draktok | but i only need one i think yes |
| 06:53.35 | draktok | i think i figured it out |
| 06:53.40 | draktok | i will need another player to test to make sure |
| 06:53.43 | draktok | but i think it figured it out |
| 06:55.10 | MoonEater | why another player? |
| 06:55.11 | MoonEater | if it works for one it should work for them all |
| 06:55.59 | draktok | well the problem before the sounds were playing globally |
| 06:56.09 | draktok | so i would build a marine, for example, or my marine would die, for example |
| 06:56.12 | draktok | everyone could hear it |
| 06:56.18 | draktok | i don't want that, typically :p |
| 06:56.28 | draktok | so i need another player to make sure he can't hear my units dying or being built |
| 06:56.33 | draktok | because that was where i had a bug |
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| 06:56.48 | MoonEater | oh that kind of sound |
| 06:56.49 | MoonEater | that makles sense |
| 06:59.56 | draktok | i am like 92% sure i fixed it |
| 07:00.02 | draktok | but ill find out when i push out another release on bne |
| 07:00.04 | draktok | bnet |
| 07:00.05 | draktok | and play it |
| 07:00.07 | draktok | and it breaks again |
| 07:00.07 | draktok | xD |
| 07:00.11 | draktok | no big deal |
| 07:18.48 | draktok | does anyone know how to make actors travel, as in a weapon. I have an arrow i want to shoot, but when i attach the arrow model via the launch map, it just kinda creates the arrow on the model it's launching from, but it doesn't go anywhere |
| 07:19.02 | draktok | ie it just creates a big arrow but the arrow doesn't leave or travel to the target |
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| 08:03.06 | Kueken | shark |
| 08:08.25 | draktok | bark |
| 08:08.43 | draktok | kueken what time does zolden usually get on |
| 08:08.53 | Kueken | o_o |
| 08:08.58 | Kueken | no idea |
| 08:09.14 | Kueken | never paid attention to it |
| 08:09.28 | Kueken | yesterday he showed up right after I did, I believe |
| 08:09.59 | draktok | that is no help :D |
| 08:09.59 | draktok | that's okay |
| 08:10.12 | draktok | i was just going to ask him when he planned on uploading some models he said he'd upload |
| 08:10.26 | draktok | but hey are you good at getting missile weapons to work? I got the weapon to make the arrow appear on the target |
| 08:10.27 | draktok | but not travel |
| 08:10.34 | draktok | why won't it travel damnit -.- |
| 08:22.23 | Kueken | usually, all thats needed for a missile weapon is a launch missile effect and a projectile unit |
| 08:22.39 | Kueken | also you need to specify a missile mover |
| 08:22.47 | Kueken | everything else is optional |
| 08:23.37 | Kueken | if the projectile spawns but doesn't move, it suggests a mover problem |
| 08:23.46 | Kueken | did you create a custom mover? |
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| 08:28.30 | Zolden | hello, quiet (because of weekend) chat |
| 08:36.11 | Kueken | (10:08:47) draktok: kueken what time does zolden usually get on |
| 08:36.12 | Kueken | (10:09:32) Kueken: yesterday he showed up right after I did, I believe |
| 08:36.22 | draktok | oh ho |
| 08:36.25 | draktok | hey zolden |
| 08:36.44 | draktok | did you ever upload those warcraft - ish or midevil - ish models? |
| 08:36.48 | draktok | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:37.15 | draktok | the projectile spawns on the target kueken |
| 08:37.28 | draktok | so like i use A to attack B, and an arrow appears in the middle of B as it should |
| 08:37.29 | draktok | it just doens't fly |
| 08:37.37 | draktok | i'm just using the mover from Punisher grenades |
| 08:37.41 | draktok | because it seemed it would work fine |
| 08:37.42 | Kueken | did you modify the launch location of the launch missile effect? |
| 08:37.43 | draktok | but perhaps not |
| 08:37.48 | draktok | let me check quick |
| 08:38.01 | Kueken | punisher grenades mover is the one I use mostly as well |
| 08:38.37 | draktok | it just is set as source unit |
| 08:38.40 | draktok | so something else is failing |
| 08:39.34 | Zolden | draktok hey |
| 08:39.37 | Zolden | haven't yet |
| 08:39.40 | Zolden | but will |
| 08:39.53 | draktok | ok no problem |
| 08:40.11 | draktok | i was just curious because after i get this stupid missile thing to work , as well as implement a new archer unit |
| 08:40.35 | draktok | and change an upgrade path |
| 08:40.37 | draktok | i will be adding new units |
| 08:40.55 | Zolden | ok, maybe will add em today |
| 08:40.57 | draktok | i suppose by late tonight (saturday) or sunday i will look at adding new unit |
| 08:41.27 | draktok | but perpaps if you don't get to it i can look at adding new nuetral units like an orc or a skeleton, i have high quality models to use for htose |
| 08:41.50 | cannabis | tochna Zolden where is your promised models of WoW? |
| 08:42.29 | Zolden | cannabis smoke yourself |
| 08:42.29 | draktok | i believe they may be the same models but i am not sure |
| 08:42.38 | Zolden | today they will appear |
| 08:42.46 | draktok | what does tochna mean |
| 08:43.10 | Zolden | my models are unique, no one else prettifies wow models as I do |
| 08:43.21 | Zolden | tochna meen indeed on russian |
| 08:44.11 | Zolden | funny how I used "meen" instead of "mean" because of the folowing "indeed" |
| 08:44.31 | Kueken | draktok: paste the xml data of the launch missile effect |
| 08:45.08 | draktok | i will in just a moment, perhaps i found the slip up |
| 08:45.10 | cannabis | Zolden does model will have all attachements stuff and HitTests? |
| 08:45.13 | Zolden | it's a sign of multithreading brain activity, it's loading libraries while doing something else, but libraries interact with each other |
| 08:45.25 | draktok | i created a actor for the missile kueken, and attached it to a Weapon - arrow missile |
| 08:45.29 | Zolden | cannabis yea, all HitletTests |
| 08:45.32 | draktok | but i did not appear to link that to the effect |
| 08:45.39 | draktok | give me a moment to see if that fixes it xP |
| 08:46.08 | Kueken | the projectile unit needs an actor, but that is indeed independent of the effect |
| 08:46.33 | Kueken | you can add an action actor, which reacts to the effect, but that is not required for the missile to work |
| 08:46.38 | Kueken | although recommended |
| 08:47.58 | draktok | let me see if i did that |
| 08:47.59 | draktok | i think i did |
| 08:58.40 | draktok | testing once more but i don't think i fixed it |
| 08:58.46 | draktok | something isn't attached somewher |
| 08:58.52 | draktok | i'm positive i'm just missing one building block here |
| 08:59.08 | draktok | i'm basically using the marauder attack actors and weapons as examples |
| 08:59.13 | draktok | and just following it |
| 08:59.25 | draktok | obviously switching things around for my models |
| 08:59.41 | draktok | but i mean i'm just looking at what blizz did, and doing the same for my specific models sounds |
| 08:59.45 | draktok | and it's doing everything but traveling |
| 09:02.47 | Kueken | xml data! |
| 09:03.59 | draktok | which xml data did you want again? |
| 09:04.49 | Kueken | launch effect and related actors probably |
| 09:05.09 | draktok | paste bin or just copy paste it here? |
| 09:05.50 | Kueken | paste bin plz |
| 09:06.20 | Zolden | draktok they made like this http://i.snag.gy/z1CrB.jpg |
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| 09:06.53 | Kueken | gay footman, yay |
| 09:07.18 | draktok | looks swell though |
| 09:07.23 | draktok | also kueken there is a lot of junk in the xml LOL |
| 09:08.21 | draktok | http://pastebin.com/KeBb9igd this is the actor for the Arrow - Attack |
| 09:08.30 | draktok | And the following will be Arrow - Missile |
| 09:08.46 | Kueken | nope, its all actors in your map :D |
| 09:08.46 | draktok | oh woops i think i copy pasted that wrong |
| 09:08.50 | draktok | let me try again sorry |
| 09:09.08 | G0A | Any idea why this action doesnt works for me: Text Tag - Set the maximum size of text tag to x width and yheight (in percent of screen size) |
| 09:09.46 | draktok | oh lol sorry kueken i didn't realize i copy pasted the whole thing |
| 09:09.57 | draktok | anyways you just want the actor i will retry sorry |
| 09:10.19 | Kueken | G0A: check, if its getting called correctly, try hide/unhide on the tag after changing the size |
| 09:11.46 | G0A | good idea |
| 09:11.47 | Kueken | draktok: don't bother, I can see it |
| 09:12.18 | Kueken | now the launch effect |
| 09:13.20 | G0A | hide and show didnt do the trick:( |
| 09:13.38 | draktok | http://pastebin.com/KxRy7KK8 this is the arrow attack that doesn't suck if you just want cleaner lol |
| 09:13.56 | Kueken | assumed as much :D |
| 09:14.25 | draktok | http://pastebin.com/FhCcRR9M this is the missile and the base is this http://pastebin.com/92GYhQak |
| 09:14.38 | Kueken | base? |
| 09:14.39 | draktok | So i have Arrow Attack (The main actor) Arrow Missile and Arrow Base |
| 09:14.54 | Kueken | what do you need the base for? |
| 09:15.19 | draktok | i don't think i do i just made it because the marauder attack had a base |
| 09:15.22 | draktok | but there it is just in case |
| 09:15.26 | Kueken | :D |
| 09:15.41 | draktok | if i don't need it i will happily delete it, actors add up fast :( |
| 09:15.49 | G0A | ohh its a silly bug in my triggers.D |
| 09:15.52 | Kueken | yeah, its not used by your other objects, nor does it link to any other objects |
| 09:16.00 | Kueken | you should be able to delete it |
| 09:16.26 | Kueken | now the launch effect, please |
| 09:19.09 | draktok | http://pastebin.com/Qn6ZwKry this is the damage effect for the arrow and this is the arrow missile effect http://pastebin.com/gccDLpiq |
| 09:19.41 | Kueken | you didn't specify an ammo unit |
| 09:19.53 | Kueken | in theory, that should launch the caster |
| 09:20.06 | draktok | on the launch i need an ammo unit? |
| 09:20.27 | draktok | oh |
| 09:20.31 | Kueken | unless you execute it on an existing arrow |
| 09:20.47 | draktok | I created a unit named "Weapon - arrow" and tagged it as a projectile |
| 09:21.02 | Kueken | but you never linked it to the launch effect :D |
| 09:21.02 | draktok | and it's tied the actor with the arrow missile |
| 09:21.09 | draktok | so i should be able to link that as the ammo? |
| 09:21.12 | Kueken | yes |
| 09:21.22 | draktok | ok testing now |
| 09:21.26 | draktok | anything else obviously wrong? |
| 09:21.39 | Kueken | rest looks good |
| 09:21.59 | Kueken | some most likely unnecessary fields, but nothing to worry about |
| 09:23.00 | draktok | wait should the |
| 09:23.08 | draktok | main arrow actor |
| 09:23.12 | draktok | have an attack effect? |
| 09:23.20 | draktok | it does damage without one linked |
| 09:23.26 | draktok | but is there a reason an attack effect should be linked? |
| 09:25.03 | Zolden | draktok http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/files/705/997/homm_models.zip |
| 09:25.06 | Zolden | cannabis http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/files/705/997/homm_models.zip |
| 09:25.23 | Kueken | draktok: action actors can be used in 2 different ways |
| 09:25.34 | cannabis | Have 3ds max project files? |
| 09:25.38 | Kueken | either instant damage effects, like the Marine weapon |
| 09:25.47 | Kueken | then you would specify an attack effect only |
| 09:25.52 | Kueken | or missile launch |
| 09:26.02 | cannabis | ZOLDEN |
| 09:26.05 | Kueken | then you would ignore the attack effect, and specify launch and impact only |
| 09:26.06 | draktok | huzzah |
| 09:26.08 | draktok | zolden models ~ |
| 09:26.24 | draktok | ok kueken |
| 09:26.28 | draktok | so ignore the attack effect |
| 09:26.29 | draktok | good to know |
| 09:26.57 | Kueken | also, action actors usually don't require you to mess with the events |
| 09:27.16 | Kueken | if you add the launch and impact effect, the events should be correct automatically |
| 09:27.24 | Kueken | (thats all the tokens do really) |
| 09:32.27 | draktok | i haven't opened them yet zolden but do they have animations ? |
| 09:32.43 | cannabis | lol |
| 09:32.49 | cannabis | what a dumb question |
| 09:33.08 | cannabis | units without animations who would even post them here? Newbies? Yeah |
| 09:33.33 | Zolden | cannabis maybe |
| 09:33.37 | Zolden | draktok maybe |
| 09:33.42 | draktok | lol |
| 09:33.51 | draktok | i don't know cannabis |
| 09:34.00 | draktok | if anyone posted animated-less models |
| 09:34.03 | draktok | i think it would be zolden |
| 09:34.05 | draktok | i don't know why |
| 09:34.18 | cannabis | LOL |
| 09:37.30 | cannabis | hey look they are weaponless |
| 09:37.57 | Zolden | http://i.snag.gy/2WTIj.jpg |
| 09:38.13 | Zolden | I Used to attach weapons |
| 09:39.04 | draktok | what did you use to attach weapons? |
| 09:39.10 | cannabis | you need to set when making normals for textures to be tilable mb then where the mirrored side starts of model would look like ass |
| 09:39.37 | cannabis | 3rd party tools, Zoldpos |
| 09:39.56 | Zolden | draktok there are tutorials |
| 09:40.37 | Zolden | cannabis mirrored shit is not a problem, if you see anything look like shit, it's probably mesh fucked |
| 09:41.15 | cannabis | well you can see in your screen shot on horse ass that its have some kind of edge |
| 09:41.30 | Zolden | zeldarules28 ould you be so nice to approve an asset? |
| 09:42.15 | cannabis | lol elf hero.. Gnom on Undead Horse |
| 09:43.30 | Zolden | these are best matches of what i needed and what I had |
| 09:44.30 | cannabis | the Zolden http://snag.gy/rzO7u.jpg |
| 09:45.31 | draktok | wt |
| 09:46.49 | cannabis | Knight (footman) model is totally fucked up, normals, and stuff. |
| 09:47.27 | Zolden | yea, a bit |
| 09:47.31 | Zolden | try to remake |
| 09:48.05 | cannabis | Wizard model and Titan are fucked. |
| 09:48.18 | cannabis | the transpaerant stuff on team colors places |
| 09:48.34 | cannabis | w_wizard |
| 09:50.07 | Zolden | they are small enough in my map, and look fine |
| 09:52.54 | cannabis | yeah little stick man |
| 09:53.10 | cannabis | men |
| 09:53.11 | cannabis | man |
| 09:53.12 | cannabis | men |
| 09:53.33 | draktok | oh hey kueken |
| 09:53.48 | draktok | while that was part of the problem i was still having issues i could not figure out until i realized the weapon did not have an effect |
| 09:53.55 | draktok | so it now works, huzzah |
| 09:54.11 | draktok | but you were right about the ammo part |
| 09:56.23 | draktok | but tower works perfect now so i can implement an archer unit which should also work just fine i think! |
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| 10:09.17 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:09.21 | cannabis | draktok what you making|? |
| 10:09.36 | draktok | i am making a silly wc3 econ map |
| 10:09.48 | draktok | using all the public domain models and pulling sounds from wc3 |
| 10:09.56 | draktok | oh and pulling icons from wc3 |
| 10:10.37 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.43 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:14.37 | Zolden | chaijn is the name of chinese mage who invented chain lightning |
| 10:15.36 | Zolden | gooose there are 3 or 4 or 5 tutorials on mapster for chain lightnings, try them all, then decide what you want (i recommend the recursive one) |
| 10:17.01 | Kueken | I happen to have a great chain lightning example |
| 10:17.28 | Kueken | only uses one behavior on the caster to keep track of the amount of targets hit |
| 10:17.41 | Kueken | no behaviors for the chain itself |
| 10:18.00 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.16 | Kueken | from the same caster? |
| 10:18.18 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.27 | Kueken | and all the same chains? |
| 10:18.43 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.55 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.17 | Zolden | why 30, let it be 5000! |
| 10:19.40 | Zolden | WAIT! NO! I'VE GOT BETTER IDEA!!!!! |
| 10:19.41 | Kueken | well, you can always go non-recursive, in which case my version uses no behavior at all |
| 10:19.42 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:19.49 | Zolden | LET IT BE MOTHERFUCKING 50000000000000000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 10:19.53 | Zolden | YEA BITHCES!!!! |
| 10:20.27 | draktok | man zolden u get worked up on numbers |
| 10:20.55 | Kueken | but a point has been made :) |
| 10:21.00 | draktok | i just found out my archer unit can attack geysers |
| 10:21.05 | draktok | but i don't think i care at all |
| 10:21.11 | draktok | and by that i mean empty base geysers |
| 10:21.14 | draktok | huh. |
| 10:21.33 | Kueken | forgot to set target filters for the weapon? :D |
| 10:21.37 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:22.39 | draktok | wait are you saying you have a chain lightning that bounces 30 times |
| 10:22.45 | draktok | or he attacks with 30 missiles |
| 10:22.50 | draktok | that bounce thirty times |
| 10:22.54 | draktok | equaling something like 5000 |
| 10:23.35 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.16 | Kueken | well, 3 bounces is reasonable without a recursive chain |
| 10:24.20 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.49 | draktok | so |
| 10:25.54 | draktok | 90 targets? |
| 10:25.56 | draktok | jesus |
| 10:26.19 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.25 | draktok | well unless it's a buff or something then maybe it's more balanced in my head |
| 10:26.29 | draktok | like a battle cry shout |
| 10:26.31 | draktok | >:D |
| 10:26.35 | draktok | but 30 chain lightning |
| 10:26.37 | draktok | poor zerglings |
| 10:27.06 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.19 | Kueken | also could be 1 damage + 9001 vs massive |
| 10:27.23 | Kueken | you don't know |
| 10:27.34 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.45 | draktok | see kueken |
| 10:27.47 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.47 | draktok | that's crazy |
| 10:27.55 | draktok | it should be 30 chains of flower daisys healing everyone |
| 10:28.04 | draktok | that sounds nicer than poor ultimate devastation to 90 people |
| 10:28.15 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:28.20 | draktok | oh |
| 10:28.23 | draktok | well thats less dramatic |
| 10:28.24 | draktok | oh well |
| 10:28.28 | Kueken | yeah, or it could tickle them until they suffocate |
| 10:28.34 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:31.14 | draktok | if the arc on a ranged weapon is 0 |
| 10:31.20 | draktok | will the unit by default shoot only where they are facing? |
| 10:31.25 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.31 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.39 | draktok | so for a tower you want default 360 arc (Typically speaking) |
| 10:31.47 | draktok | and most ranged units you should want 0 arc |
| 10:31.51 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.01 | draktok | don't plan on adding a turret to an archer :) |
| 10:32.06 | draktok | but yeah i getcha, cool |
| 10:33.40 | draktok | man how irritating if you are using different weapons for two units shooting an arrow you have to make new actors and effects and everything |
| 10:33.46 | draktok | i just wanted to change the weapon mostly sheesh |
| 10:35.25 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.50 | Kueken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55h1FO8V_3w |
| 10:36.53 | Kueken | so good |
| 10:37.17 | draktok | i don't know whatthat means goose |
| 10:37.19 | draktok | so can't do it :D |
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| 10:40.25 | draktok | lol |
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| 10:53.03 | draktok | so i have a archer model that i imported and the model was like |
| 10:53.06 | draktok | a million times to big |
| 10:53.13 | draktok | so i scaled it down to .1, which i do with quite a few models |
| 10:53.18 | draktok | but now she walks with her legs flying like super super fast |
| 10:53.20 | draktok | wtf |
| 10:53.44 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:54.37 | draktok | oh jesus thank you lol |
| 11:00.47 | draktok | i lowered the walk animation speed a boat load |
| 11:00.49 | draktok | (from 3.5 to .5) |
| 11:00.53 | draktok | and it isn't doing anything |
| 11:00.56 | draktok | hm |
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| 11:07.43 | draktok | so i lowered the animation speed to .017 and it doens't do anything |
| 11:07.50 | draktok | so is there another way to fix her super speed legs |
| 11:08.03 | draktok | the animation plays fine in the cut scene editor |
| 11:08.12 | draktok | so i assume it's just cause she was monster size and i scaled her down |
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| 11:14.07 | draktok | reduced it the same scale i reduce sized |
| 11:14.09 | draktok | testing now |
| 11:14.47 | draktok | fixed walk animation |
| 11:14.52 | draktok | made her attack animation a little weird |
| 11:14.53 | draktok | but meh |
| 11:18.58 | draktok | d'oh, she dies super slow too |
| 11:19.09 | draktok | ill find a work around -sigh- |
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| 11:33.20 | draktok | gooose i fixed it by setting their walk animation speed to 0 |
| 11:33.27 | draktok | seriously setting it to 0 made them move at a normal speed. |
| 11:33.28 | draktok | wtf |
| 11:38.42 | cannabis | draktok what models you using? Zolden ones? |
| 11:38.51 | draktok | no |
| 11:39.14 | draktok | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/warcraft-footman-model/ |
| 11:39.26 | draktok | im gonna use zoldens mage |
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| 11:43.56 | cannabis | Yeah those models sure have where to improve |
| 11:45.15 | draktok | huh? |
| 11:45.20 | cannabis | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K-FDqIm3HDI carbot |
| 11:49.47 | Fate | hey all i have a problem with saving my map as componets folder. |
| 11:51.36 | Fate | i get an error: unable to move directory |
| 11:52.08 | Fate | access denied |
| 11:56.09 | draktok | couldn't tell ya fate |
| 11:57.27 | Fate | is there an other way to turn a map into a mod? |
| 12:01.05 | cannabis | with MPQ editor? |
| 12:01.07 | cannabis | Fate |
| 12:03.48 | Fate | ah |
| 12:04.06 | Fate | key ill download it |
| 12:04.51 | cannabis | m? :O |
| 12:04.58 | cannabis | wtf you doing then? |
| 12:06.34 | cannabis | afk to Total War |
| 12:33.43 | cannabis | Fuck. the Empire Total War is confusing game... |
| 12:34.08 | cannabis | and have poor user friendly enviroment :/ |
| 12:35.46 | cannabis | dialgos and stuf |
| 12:35.47 | cannabis | s |
| 12:35.50 | cannabis | s |
| 12:36.00 | cannabis | so |
| 12:36.00 | cannabis | f |
| 12:38.33 | Zolden | penis |
| 12:42.17 | cannabis | tits |
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| 12:47.22 | draktok | lol |
| 12:47.29 | Zolden | hitler |
| 12:48.19 | cannabis | Stalin |
| 12:48.38 | draktok | i need a tileset that would fit world of warcraft-ish |
| 12:48.45 | draktok | sigh |
| 13:05.23 | cannabis | belshir |
| 13:05.32 | cannabis | you need to be more specific |
| 13:11.12 | draktok | i don't know what belshir mean |
| 13:11.35 | cannabis | tilset in sc2 |
| 13:11.44 | cannabis | tileset |
| 13:12.14 | cannabis | Bel'Shir |
| 13:14.23 | draktok | bel'shir will work enough thanks |
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| 13:51.56 | Dustin | Everything is going on in the PC-world |
| 13:52.01 | Dustin | Cause PC IS the world. |
| 13:53.00 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:55.27 | cannabis | I think its going for stagnation. |
| 13:56.55 | Tolkfan | I just realized that the world/map in the game of thrones intro is a dyson sphere :O |
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| 13:59.53 | cannabis | win XP here works here just fine |
| 14:03.13 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:15.46 | cannabis | ? |
| 14:16.04 | cannabis | you mean when error happens in windows? |
| 14:16.17 | cannabis | Fuck those sounds, never having them on. |
| 14:18.39 | cannabis | Long time ago used Voice scream of dying unit sound from Stronghold when program is turned off. So some ridiclous turning off computered happened. |
| 14:19.58 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:22.05 | cannabis | 2TB? |
| 14:23.12 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:23.23 | cannabis | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8 |
| 14:23.43 | cannabis | pretty much for 7 too |
| 14:23.56 | cannabis | basicly get win Vista |
| 14:27.50 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:28.57 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.50 | cannabis | well you will get 16GB ram anyways |
| 14:32.57 | Dustin | Dont ever get windows vista |
| 14:32.59 | cannabis | ]Q[ Anyway Back to Question how to find out the owner of missle that kills unit |
| 14:33.02 | Dustin | Unless you like having shitting os's |
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| 14:35.33 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:36.30 | Dustin | You had an OS that used way to many resources for what it did for no reason |
| 14:36.44 | Dustin | :D |
| 14:39.53 | cannabis | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/53231-get-owner-of-projectile/ |
| 14:40.56 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:41.48 | cannabis | looks good for ME |
| 14:42.04 | cannabis | what price? |
| 14:43.35 | Dustin | goose, if you want faster editor loading get an SSD not a HDD |
| 14:45.01 | cannabis | get both |
| 14:45.02 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:45.19 | cannabis | 1k for whole package? |
| 14:46.07 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:46.22 | cannabis | :D |
| 14:46.42 | cannabis | everything tightly glued up |
| 14:46.52 | Dustin | Yeah SSd for your Windows / sc2 install and then you can use the HDD for everything else |
| 14:47.51 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.30 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:48.48 | Dustin | No it's read/writing from db that the editor uses for data |
| 14:48.52 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:49.17 | Dustin | your HDD read/write speed is going to be the biggest bottleneck on your system unless you have some super shitty cpu or low ram |
| 14:49.56 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.03 | Dustin | No it's not |
| 14:50.28 | Dustin | The editor has to know the links between everything in data |
| 14:50.43 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:50.46 | Dustin | So it's gotta update every link whenever you change anything that messes with that link |
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| 14:52.20 | Dustin | What cpu do you have now |
| 14:52.33 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.58 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.18 | Dustin | so your cpu is shit also |
| 14:54.21 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.29 | Dustin | Doesnt mean that an SSD isn't going to help editor speeds a ton |
| 14:55.32 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:55.41 | Dustin | Im jsut saying if you're upgrading your computer for better editor speeds, get an SSD. |
| 14:55.53 | Dustin | Be silly not too |
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| 15:11.25 | cannabis | well as far as i know that 6gb/s wouldnt really happen. |
| 15:11.55 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:12.06 | cannabis | if you really dont know nothing about SSD here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive |
| 15:12.13 | cannabis | lets read together! |
| 15:12.18 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:13.33 | Deaod | the SATA speed is the maximum total throughput |
| 15:13.53 | Deaod | and please make a distinction between gigabits and gigabytes |
| 15:14.06 | Deaod | 1 byte = 8 bits |
| 15:15.24 | Deaod | maximum total throughput means that all hard drives connected via SATA cant transfer more than that in any given second. |
| 15:15.32 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:15.37 | Deaod | yes |
| 15:15.50 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:16.00 | Deaod | im just saying, 6GB and 6gb might be completely different things |
| 15:16.06 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:18.12 | Deaod | the old SATA is called SATA2 and has a speed of ~300 MByte/s |
| 15:18.33 | Deaod | the new one is SATA3 and has a speed of ~600MByte/s |
| 15:20.17 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.44 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:24.10 | Deaod | SSDs are useful not only because they haven far better read/write speeds, but also because they can perform many many more read/write operations per second, plus they have latencies 2 order of magnitude faster (8.9 ms vs 0.1 ms) |
| 15:24.10 | Deaod | plus SSDs dont have any moving parts |
| 15:25.53 | Deaod | i would wait for the haswell cores |
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| 15:27.53 | Deaod | basically, i expect them to draw a lot less power |
| 15:28.05 | Deaod | while being able to be overclocked to much higher speeds |
| 15:31.05 | cannabis | Well in wiki its written that the SSD downgrade faster? If I read it correctly |
| 15:31.29 | Deaod | SSDs degrade the more you write to them, yes |
| 15:32.03 | Deaod | however, with normal usage theyre still expected to live at least 5 years |
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| 15:37.56 | Deaod | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGFhc8R_uO4 |
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| 16:26.26 | Zolden | particles too get created every 0.625 seconds |
| 16:26.46 | Zolden | that's why they aren't too heavy in calculating |
| 16:36.14 | Cardanis | why is it, that whenever I make a copy of a footprint, and modify it |
| 16:36.20 | Cardanis | then apply it to a model, it just . . .breaks? |
| 16:36.35 | Cardanis | it believes it no longer has a footprint, and is completely pathable |
| 16:39.16 | Cardanis | hold that, it only messes up the editor |
| 16:39.20 | Cardanis | works properly in game |
| 16:39.23 | Cardanis | oooookay |
| 17:07.39 | JademusSreg | Footprints inherited from mods work properly in the editor. |
| 17:07.47 | JademusSreg | iirc |
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| 18:34.50 | Bounty | Pew :) |
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| 19:09.48 | JademusSreg | Wep. |
| 19:12.32 | aweq | Pew Pew ? |
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| 19:56.23 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 20:08.17 | Vailreth | bah |
| 20:16.17 | aweq | its about time to start new project! |
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| 20:53.56 | draktok | how difficult is it to add a fire-looking actor to a model |
| 20:54.01 | draktok | for ex flaming arrows |
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| 21:00.02 | aweq | golden! |
| 21:00.26 | Zolden | aweq do you like the url? http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/penispenispenispenis/ |
| 21:01.09 | aweq | 502 :( |
| 21:02.13 | Zolden | give it another cahnce |
| 21:02.43 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.45 | Zolden | also, you don't need to click on it to notice its awesomness |
| 21:03.09 | draktok | lol |
| 21:03.09 | draktok | i see that |
| 21:06.51 | aweq | nice |
| 21:07.07 | aweq | and it works |
| 21:22.33 | aweq | A DICK, A MOBY's DICK |
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| 21:30.27 | Eimtr | does any1 know how can i measure what footprint size i need for different distances |
| 21:34.00 | draktok | i'm not quite sure what you mean but you can turn on a "show placement grid" under view |
| 21:34.01 | draktok | if that helps you |
| 21:34.26 | Eimtr | like one square in the footprint equals how much on the terrain |
| 21:35.45 | Eimtr | as a size |
| 21:37.14 | draktok | i was under the impression your map bounds is your grid size |
| 21:37.21 | draktok | i'm not sure about actual numbers but a 128x128 |
| 21:37.30 | draktok | has 128 placement grids by 128 placement grids |
| 21:37.39 | draktok | but i don't know an exact "size" per say |
| 21:38.06 | draktok | if you pull open the terrain editor a size 16 pallet is indeed 16x16 placement grids |
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| 21:44.02 | Eimtr | yes but for example 8 big squares in the footprint, how much is that as a terrain brush size |
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| 21:50.39 | SunMonkey | Does anybody know how to make a dialog for each player that waits for all players to click buttons? |
| 21:53.57 | SunMonkey | So frustrating :( |
| 21:54.40 | draktok | eimtr the terrain brush size matches the placement grid 1 for 1 |
| 21:54.49 | draktok | so if you want 8x8 footprint it's 8x8 brush size |
| 21:54.59 | draktok | er, 8 brush size, rather |
| 21:55.20 | Eimtr | thanks, i think i figured it based on one of the gates as a reference |
| 22:04.43 | draktok | yeesh |
| 22:04.48 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 22:04.51 | draktok | has anyone bothered setting up a defend ability for a footmen before |
| 22:05.18 | draktok | or a similar ability that would make a unit change states |
| 22:05.19 | Vailreth | no one here at the moment that i know of |
| 22:05.30 | draktok | as in to change his default walk animation to be something different |
| 22:05.34 | draktok | maybe i can use burrow as a reference |
| 22:05.36 | draktok | i will go try that |
| 22:05.43 | Vailreth | but i would just use a buff ability to apply a buff... |
| 22:05.56 | Vailreth | not burrow thats a morph |
| 22:06.10 | draktok | how would i make him change his default walk animation? |
| 22:06.17 | Vailreth | in the actor events |
| 22:07.09 | draktok | use abil change walkto x |
| 22:07.13 | draktok | maybe |
| 22:07.16 | draktok | let me try that is good thinking though |
| 22:07.51 | Vailreth | i would look at the ghosts hold fire and weapons free |
| 22:09.04 | draktok | that might do it |
| 22:09.07 | draktok | give me a moment to play with it a bit |
| 22:09.13 | draktok | the ability have to be a behavior and the |
| 22:09.18 | draktok | behavior has to be a buff though |
| 22:10.56 | Vailreth | i used a similar set up to change between models for a mod i had |
| 22:11.20 | Vailreth | i switch between raynor marine and rayner railsniper. |
| 22:11.55 | draktok | i don't see under events that would change his default walk animation |
| 22:12.12 | draktok | he has a defend animation and a walk animation i'm not sure how to set his default walk to defend |
| 22:12.38 | draktok | or his "walk slow" rather |
| 22:17.12 | Vailreth | you may have to modfiy the model to use diffrent animation names |
| 22:17.53 | Vailreth | the naming coventions of model animations between the games are not exactly consistent |
| 22:18.08 | draktok | oh |
| 22:18.12 | draktok | how do you rename an animation? |
| 22:20.30 | Vailreth | you would have to take the model into a 3d program with an importer and exporter and once in there find and rename the animations as you need |
| 22:21.37 | Vailreth | thats the only method i know of. |
| 22:22.19 | Vailreth | what was the original file and where was it from? |
| 22:25.08 | Zolden | Kueken check, ghost nova made a dragoon with upgrades http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/38630-showcase-ghostnovas-models/?post=447 |
| 22:37.52 | Vailreth | bbiab |
| 22:38.14 | draktok | vailreth how come there is like 90 variations and a-z ? |
| 22:38.19 | draktok | none of those can apply towards the animation? |
| 22:40.48 | SunMonkey | Does anybody know good tutorials to make a dialog for each player that waits for all players to click buttons? |
| 22:41.05 | Zolden | SunMonkey any dialog tutorial will work |
| 22:41.10 | Zolden | it's a trivial thing |
| 22:41.23 | SunMonkey | i can't find anything :( |
| 22:41.30 | SunMonkey | but i'll keep looking |
| 22:47.16 | SunMonkey | I'm so unfamiliar with the nomenclature of map editing that I don't know what to search for :( |
| 22:49.57 | draktok | i just stopped looking at tutorials and starting using in game examples for like 85% of things |
| 22:50.02 | Fate | whats the best way to convert a map into a mod? |
| 22:50.29 | Fate | i want to use unit data from my map in a mod |
| 22:51.11 | SunMonkey | draktok what do you mean? |
| 22:51.36 | draktok | well i don't know about your dialog thing and what you can find in game but i just mean in general because a lot of the editor changed in 1.5 |
| 22:51.49 | draktok | i find it's easier to not rely on tutorials but to tinker around and use in game examples |
| 22:52.08 | draktok | a bunch of tutorials use buttons that are no longer there or were merged so |
| 22:52.13 | draktok | i just got confused watching tutorials |
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| 22:55.06 | SunMonkey | is there a way to download the games and open them in the editor? |
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| 22:55.49 | SunMonkey | ok |
| 22:57.00 | JademusSreg | Kapow. |
| 22:57.37 | JademusSreg | Yes, the standard data is full of useful examples. |
| 22:57.48 | Bounty | Kablooie |
| 22:57.52 | draktok | my map is unlocked :D |
| 22:57.54 | draktok | hey bounty |
| 22:58.04 | draktok | are you good with animations sort of |
| 22:58.05 | Bounty | Herro |
| 22:58.09 | Bounty | nope |
| 22:58.17 | draktok | damn |
| 22:58.24 | Bounty | Making animations? |
| 22:58.29 | draktok | no |
| 22:58.39 | Bounty | Then what do you mean |
| 22:59.02 | draktok | i have an footman model with a walk animation, and a defend animation, and in making a defend ability i'm not sure how to make him switch to the defend animation in the events |
| 22:59.07 | draktok | would you know how to do that |
| 22:59.17 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 22:59.29 | JademusSreg | Depends on the animation tag in the asset. |
| 22:59.53 | Bounty | what i usually do is use behaviors |
| 22:59.59 | Bounty | Behavior On |
| 23:00.04 | Bounty | Play Animation |
| 23:00.05 | Bounty | in the actor events |
| 23:00.08 | draktok | what would the animation name be? |
| 23:00.14 | Bounty | Defend |
| 23:00.15 | draktok | I made the buff behavior and set it to on in the event |
| 23:00.24 | draktok | but i don't have a defend option for animations to play |
| 23:00.26 | Bounty | and then when the behavior is off |
| 23:00.27 | Bounty | clear that animation |
| 23:00.29 | JademusSreg | For instance, if Defend is an animation group, one would send the actor message AnimGroupApply. |
| 23:00.51 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:01.12 | JademusSreg | Ideally, Defend would be an animation group, since otherwise Walk and Attack animations wouldn't look right. |
| 23:01.48 | JademusSreg | Goo, just pick yellow and set the HDR value to something high. |
| 23:01.53 | draktok | well the animation name for defend is "walk slow" but that's where im stuck, how do i choose the walk slow animation? Because i set the behavior on, animgroupapply cover, but i just don't have |
| 23:01.58 | draktok | "walk slow" as an option there to select |
| 23:02.01 | JademusSreg | Assuming it's an actor model, of ocurse. |
| 23:02.17 | draktok | would be a variation or something similar, not "walk slow" ? |
| 23:02.26 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 23:02.44 | JademusSreg | Are you setting the Name field or composing the animation tags? |
| 23:02.59 | JademusSreg | By tags, I mean the values in the pulldowns. |
| 23:03.32 | draktok | the values in the pulldowns |
| 23:03.35 | draktok | can i set a name field? |
| 23:03.47 | SunMonkey | seems like nobody wants their map to be editable!! |
| 23:04.19 | JademusSreg | An attack animation message usually looks like AnimPlay Attack Attack, the first Attack is the name used to reference the animation, and the second is composed of animation preset tags, which in this case is Attack. |
| 23:04.19 | draktok | mine is editable |
| 23:04.20 | draktok | sun |
| 23:04.30 | JademusSreg | Wat is Sun doing? |
| 23:04.36 | draktok | something with diaglogs |
| 23:04.43 | draktok | but i don't use dialogs casue fuck those things |
| 23:04.54 | JademusSreg | I love diaglogs. It's so fun to say. |
| 23:05.06 | JademusSreg | Dia-glogs. <3 |
| 23:05.55 | draktok | what should i eat for dinner |
| 23:05.58 | draktok | im thinkin pizza |
| 23:06.00 | draktok | thanks for the suggestion guys |
| 23:06.02 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Dialogs are easy, but tedious and full of special cases. Best approach is to make custom functions/Actions to streamline the process. |
| 23:06.11 | draktok | ill dick around with the animation thing later |
| 23:06.15 | draktok | cause i don't get it i guess |
| 23:06.46 | JademusSreg | Drak, actor events are full of examples. Ridiculously full of animation examples. |
| 23:07.37 | JademusSreg | Sun, care to explain the problem? |
| 23:07.57 | draktok | he <SunMonkey> Does anybody know good tutorials to make a dialog for each player that waits for all players to click buttons? |
| 23:08.47 | draktok | also jademus i was using the Ghost holdfire as an example but his animation is just named cover, which is a selectable option in the pull down tab... where walk slow isn't |
| 23:08.51 | draktok | so that's why im stuck :) |
| 23:09.36 | Fate | [00:50] <Fate> whats the best way to convert a map into a mod? |
| 23:09.38 | Fate | [00:50] <Fate> i want to use unit data from my map in a mod |
| 23:10.44 | SunMonkey | JademusSreg, I'm trying to create a race selection dialog that will let 2 players choose race and THEN create starting melee units for them |
| 23:11.02 | SunMonkey | Right now, Each player chooses race and starts game independently of each other |
| 23:11.45 | draktok | i have no idea how to do that sunmonkey but based on how lazy i am i would just play a trigger that stuns all units for 15 seconds or something |
| 23:11.52 | draktok | instead of learning how to do it properly |
| 23:11.54 | draktok | lol |
| 23:12.03 | SunMonkey | :( |
| 23:12.06 | SunMonkey | lol |
| 23:12.24 | draktok | if you find out fate let me know |
| 23:12.31 | draktok | i wanted to know that before too and i couldn't figure it out |
| 23:12.32 | draktok | :P |
| 23:12.42 | Fate | ah |
| 23:12.56 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.01 | SunMonkey | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3122 this is what it looks like |
| 23:13.21 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.28 | Fate | well i used to do it with component lists but i cant save my map as a components list anymore |
| 23:13.34 | Fate | dont know why |
| 23:16.55 | JademusSreg | Fate, the simplest approach is to save the map as a SC2Components file. Then make a new mod document in the editor and save it as a SC2Components. Move the contents of the map's directory to the mod's directory excluding a few files, and it should work. If it doesn't MPQEditor will help the map extraction process. |
| 23:17.28 | JademusSreg | Also note that existing SC2Components with the same name in the target directory will probably fail the save attempt. |
| 23:18.45 | Fate | like i said i am unable to sava my map as a list |
| 23:19.01 | Fate | i get an error when i try to do that |
| 23:19.07 | JademusSreg | Sun, I said previously that you need to approach it differently. When the option is selected, don't create the units, but instead store the choice in a variable (such as a global array of size 16), and once all active players have made their choice, then create the units. |
| 23:19.19 | JademusSreg | Fate, what kind of error? |
| 23:19.48 | Fate | unable to move directory |
| 23:20.08 | Fate | access denied |
| 23:20.18 | Fate | (translated form german) |
| 23:20.23 | JademusSreg | Is there a directory with the same name in the target directory? Also, which OS are you running? |
| 23:21.10 | Fate | vista :) |
| 23:21.23 | JademusSreg | goo, tint isn't going to work for you. Texture swap. |
| 23:21.44 | JademusSreg | Fate, ouch. Are you attempting to save to the ProgramFiles directory? |
| 23:21.57 | JademusSreg | Because that's usually frowned upon by the OS. |
| 23:22.00 | Fate | documents |
| 23:22.10 | SunMonkey | Thanks JademusSreg, I now know what to look for. "store info in variables" that's where I was lost I think! |
| 23:22.16 | JademusSreg | Hm. Then say fuck it and use MPQEditor. |
| 23:22.35 | Fate | I have no clue how to use that |
| 23:22.46 | JademusSreg | The SC2Components option is frequently fussy. |
| 23:23.18 | JademusSreg | It's easy. You open the map (it's an MPQ afterall) with MPQEditor and extract the files to a directory or simply drag-n-drop. |
| 23:23.19 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 23:24.30 | Vailreth | i have never had a problem with save as a components fold |
| 23:24.33 | Vailreth | folder |
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| 23:27.19 | Vailreth | Fate... is your map open in the game at all? |
| 23:27.46 | Fate | i have it open in the editor |
| 23:28.02 | Fate | not in the game |
| 23:28.24 | Vailreth | does it use any mods that you may have open in the editor? |
| 23:29.01 | Fate | it uses a mod that i have not opend |
| 23:29.07 | Vailreth | hm |
| 23:29.33 | Vailreth | is there a map with the same name in the same folder you are trying to save it to? |
| 23:30.34 | Fate | i have made an extra directory that is empty |
| 23:30.39 | Vailreth | ok. |
| 23:31.28 | Fate | atm my editor is laggign cuz i tryed to copy alle the actors manually |
| 23:31.35 | Fate | bad idea |
| 23:31.57 | Vailreth | hm |
| 23:34.46 | Vailreth | i am wondering if the directory you are trying to save to is read only or something |
| 23:35.00 | Vailreth | i bet its not .. but hm |
| 23:36.23 | Vailreth | ive had things become Read Only when i didnt set that manually and the werent before.. |
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| 23:52.08 | draktok | i still can't get this animation thing to work |
| 23:52.25 | draktok | i got it to apply his cover animation, or do his walk animation |
| 23:52.31 | draktok | i can't get him to use this "walk slow" animation though |
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