| 00:00.29 | draktok | mooon eater tell me how to set the death sound for a unit when he dies |
| 00:05.37 | MoonEater916 | in actor events |
| 00:21.24 | Vailreth | or not |
| 00:38.16 | draktok | or not what |
| 00:42.54 | Vailreth | i wouldnt use actor events to play the death sound when there should be and actor sounds field that you can edit to include the sound you want them to play when they die |
| 00:44.05 | MoonEater916 | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/53045-cinematic-timers/#p9 |
| 00:46.47 | Vailreth | i have no clue what you are doing so i cant help |
| 00:47.15 | Vailreth | personally i would have created a cutscene and then made it play for all human players |
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| 00:48.26 | Vailreth | may i ask why you did not create a cutscene? |
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| 01:19.50 | draktok | alright guys |
| 01:19.58 | draktok | i gave my units sounds |
| 01:20.01 | draktok | but when they die and spawn |
| 01:20.05 | draktok | they play the sound globally |
| 01:20.06 | draktok | wtf |
| 01:20.08 | draktok | why |
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| 01:27.32 | Vailreth | it may be a setting in the sound |
| 01:38.52 | draktok | how do i add a requirement to a morph ability vailreth |
| 01:39.56 | Vailreth | you have to do that when you edit the default button for execute |
| 01:40.51 | DeadZergling | hate coming up w/ 19 abilities, only to later need to delete 3 because they are too similar to other ones, lol |
| 01:41.13 | draktok | cause vailreth i don't see a requirement setting under info+ in the ability section |
| 01:41.25 | draktok | where i set up the unit it was morphing too, i don't see any requirement optoin |
| 01:41.30 | draktok | so what tab is it under ? |
| 01:41.58 | Vailreth | it should be ability: commands: Default Button |
| 01:46.07 | MoonEater916 | Vailreth |
| 01:46.12 | MoonEater916 | i tried making cutscenes |
| 01:46.27 | MoonEater916 | but when i uploaded an old one as a example the game crashed |
| 01:47.15 | Vailreth | the older file was likely incompatible with a newer patches version ... |
| 01:47.17 | MoonEater916 | can u write a tutorial or walk me through it? |
| 01:47.38 | MoonEater916 | i used one ones on sc2mapsters |
| 01:47.43 | Vailreth | not good at tutorials but i can try to help |
| 01:47.45 | MoonEater916 | the original sc2 ones |
| 01:47.45 | MoonEater916 | wol |
| 01:48.15 | Vailreth | hm. |
| 01:48.48 | MoonEater916 | i mean |
| 01:48.57 | MoonEater916 | my first question with the cutscene modual |
| 01:49.03 | MoonEater916 | is how do i load a camera? |
| 01:49.14 | Vailreth | are you familar with any kind of NLE? |
| 01:49.56 | MoonEater916 | cinema 4d and 3ds |
| 01:50.37 | MoonEater916 | and some others |
| 01:50.47 | MoonEater916 | light wave |
| 01:52.36 | Vailreth | to add a camera you select object add node and select either game or target camera |
| 01:53.24 | Vailreth | have you used Blender at all i think that is the closest to the Cutscene editor that they get |
| 01:54.27 | draktok | hey vail thanks for that |
| 01:55.50 | Vailreth | welcome |
| 01:56.05 | Vailreth | MoonEater916: i use target cameras personally |
| 01:56.13 | MoonEater916 | hm... |
| 01:56.19 | MoonEater916 | i found a tutorial |
| 01:56.21 | MoonEater916 | only one there |
| 01:56.27 | MoonEater916 | ima read it andg et back to u |
| 01:56.35 | Vailreth | ok |
| 02:12.32 | draktok | does anyone want to play my map quick just to triple check for any bugs before i leave this published version out for a few days? |
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| 02:56.14 | draktok | zolden where did you gooooooo |
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| 04:15.01 | JademusSreg | Paow. |
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| 05:00.17 | draktok | did you crash hard core |
| 05:00.33 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 05:00.37 | draktok | oh did that blizz guy that wasn't actually talking leave finally |
| 05:20.29 | Batomys | What do you guys hate most about TDs? |
| 05:26.36 | draktok | hmm |
| 05:26.45 | draktok | armor types |
| 05:26.55 | draktok | i don't want to sit there in my head trying to think what towers work good against what untis |
| 05:27.01 | draktok | i want splash towers and single targer and thats it |
| 05:27.14 | draktok | trying to build towers good for massive and others good for mechanical just gets tedious |
| 05:32.02 | Batomys | Agree, I hate immunity BS. |
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| 06:30.57 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 06:31.14 | JademusSreg | DialogControlCreate natives take increasingly longer time to finish. |
| 06:31.44 | JademusSreg | At about 26000 runs, and that complete time is over 5 ms. |
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| 06:34.01 | JademusSreg | Each debugger update has it adding between 8 and 11 runs, and the average run time is increasing between 0.002 and 0.004. |
| 06:34.20 | JademusSreg | So the call becomes more and more expensive over time. |
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| 06:39.27 | Kueken | Shark |
| 06:41.51 | JademusSreg | Surprising how expensive creation and position calls can be. |
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| 08:39.48 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGvgk8UEpw0 |
| 08:39.55 | Zolden | epic ling vs thor battle |
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| 09:26.54 | G0A | lolz http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-05-21/diablo-3-case-virtual-hyperinflation |
| 09:33.34 | Zolden | they need to hire economists and implement a deflaation model |
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| 10:34.51 | G0A | interesting statistics about unity: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY-e2vdPdqE |
| 10:43.06 | duckies | G0A :D what does it say, I don't have sound here? |
| 10:43.32 | G0A | lots of stuff |
| 10:43.42 | G0A | interesting to watch the whole video |
| 10:43.52 | G0A | btw I thought you are gone Ducky. |
| 10:44.11 | G0A | what happened did Zolden visit you?:) |
| 10:44.13 | duckies | I'm an addict, I can never truly leave |
| 10:44.21 | G0A | hehe |
| 10:44.45 | duckies | I was just enjoying doing nothing for some time |
| 10:45.21 | G0A | :) |
| 10:45.25 | duckies | what about you, how are your endeavourswith unity? |
| 10:46.03 | duckies | oh my, now that I'm on laptop my spelling is garanteed to have 210% more typose =D |
| 10:46.56 | G0A | .) |
| 10:47.17 | G0A | I should be doing more stuff with unity but I didnt touch it since some months |
| 10:47.29 | G0A | too much functions to learn:) |
| 10:47.46 | duckies | Oh how I know that feeling of not doing somethink I think I should be doing |
| 10:48.57 | duckies | anything noteworthy on sc2? Logged in recently, played a few games of infested arena, but that's it. B-net seems even more "meh" than before :| |
| 10:49.49 | duckies | Zolden !.. are you still modeling? :D |
| 10:51.11 | duckies | throws a sleepy mice at zolden |
| 10:51.27 | G0A | well blizz did video for Arcade highligh for the first time |
| 10:51.36 | G0A | though not many watched it |
| 10:51.36 | G0A | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cSIffGTQvBo |
| 10:51.42 | duckies | yeah, eivyings map, saw that |
| 10:52.09 | duckies | ah hell, never knew how spell his name right, not gonna correct it :D |
| 10:52.37 | duckies | blizz are wierd, they didn't even link video to the article as far as I remember |
| 10:53.19 | duckies | do devs still visit this place?\ |
| 10:53.39 | G0A | rarely |
| 10:54.31 | duckies | so nothing is going on? =| |
| 10:55.02 | duckies | you're doing any mapping g0a, or just hanging in here cause of habbit? :D |
| 10:55.50 | G0A | 2nd |
| 10:56.08 | G0A | though I plan to make a very new version of Random TD |
| 10:56.35 | duckies | "Random TD 2"? |
| 10:57.08 | G0A | it will have new name |
| 10:57.35 | duckies | "Unpredictable Towers: New Conquest"? :D |
| 10:58.31 | duckies | meh, long names don't work out, probably something short and in all caps.. "RDTD"? :s |
| 10:59.14 | duckies | call it "DDDD". delighfull devious delicious defense |
| 11:00.27 | G0A | pff |
| 11:00.48 | G0A | pro td or aMazing td |
| 11:01.00 | G0A | I might have other ideas later |
| 11:05.15 | Zolden | duckies so, you weren't finally hunted down as I thought? |
| 11:05.54 | duckies | I managed to get away, the hunter was pretty pissed at dog which laughed at him |
| 11:07.07 | Zolden | aMazing TD is the idea I like |
| 11:07.36 | Zolden | duckies yes, still modelling |
| 11:07.45 | Zolden | just modelled a nice little const. yard http://i.snag.gy/0Klef.jpg |
| 11:08.34 | duckies | cute |
| 11:08.47 | duckies | what about RoL remake? |
| 11:09.32 | Zolden | i decided to make a new game |
| 11:09.42 | Zolden | rol remake can be resumed one day |
| 11:10.07 | duckies | const.yard is from that game? |
| 11:10.26 | Zolden | yea\ |
| 11:10.38 | Zolden | but also may be used for dune 2 remake |
| 11:11.36 | duckies | Well, RoL models were full of awesome :s.. What's new game based on? Const yard name reminds me of C&C, but it doesn't look like it's from there |
| 11:12.03 | G0A | dammit, unity getting better and better |
| 11:13.38 | Zolden | duckies i'll call it "mines and magic" |
| 11:14.11 | Zolden | it will be based on squad td, but it will be jsut a base |
| 11:14.59 | duckies | so it's like td, but it's a base.. would it make it a wave survival? |
| 11:15.35 | Zolden | yes |
| 11:16.04 | Zolden | it will be a hybrid, some td, some tug of war, combine nice shit from other maps |
| 11:16.39 | duckies | hm, please don't use jugnle or temple terrain for it :D |
| 11:16.52 | Zolden | there will be different random resources, players will have to scan around and build mine, the combination of resources will provide different untis to build |
| 11:17.20 | duckies | aha, so a FFA/Team VS game? |
| 11:17.37 | Zolden | i'm thinking about using hots terrains (i hate shitty common terrains too), but it will cut away 25% of players |
| 11:18.35 | duckies | decisions decisions.. |
| 11:19.01 | Zolden | it will be team vs team like in squad td, there will be sends and "if you won't kill your part of wave i'll kill it for you and get the reward, but u'll probably be fine, because your army suck because you invested in eco" shit |
| 11:19.39 | Zolden | yea, decisions not the monkey action bullcrap |
| 11:23.19 | Zolden | G0A so, u're thinking of making games for phones? |
| 11:23.33 | G0A | yes |
| 11:24.00 | G0A | I will do random td one day for phone |
| 11:24.24 | G0A | brb |
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| 11:31.00 | Zolden | Ahli look, duckies is back |
| 11:34.19 | Zolden | Goa|afkkk can mobile games be multiplayer? |
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| 12:47.28 | Zolden | a model of fucken bullshit http://i.snag.gy/yLyZA.jpg |
| 12:54.08 | twodie | .!.. |
| 12:58.23 | Dustin | Morning |
| 13:03.57 | Zolden | Dustin would you kill a child to save 2 children? |
| 13:04.25 | Zolden | twodie would you kill a child to kill 2 children? |
| 13:04.30 | Dustin | Depends on who the child was |
| 13:04.56 | Zolden | Dustin the child is you in the past |
| 13:05.10 | Dustin | No, thne I'd be dead |
| 13:05.41 | Zolden | so, if you kill it, you disappear so you don't kill it, so you exist and kill it and so on |
| 13:06.17 | Zolden | fuck, new Daft Punk album is so motherfucking good |
| 13:06.24 | Zolden | better then the best weed |
| 13:19.34 | Zolden | another model of fucken bullshit http://snag.gy/fbrMt.jpg |
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| 13:21.17 | versatas | http://iceimg.com/i/63/b4/401e58f5aa.gif |
| 13:23.21 | Zolden | versatas do you use farticle emitters in your models |
| 13:23.38 | versatas | what? no? idk? what? |
| 13:23.51 | Dustin | haha farticle |
| 13:24.38 | versatas | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lr2l_bK9Xu0 |
| 13:27.21 | Zolden | oh, there's moscow |
| 13:45.15 | Goa|afkkk | Zolden yeah they can be multiplayer but that doesnt worth it. (better to have only leaderboards...) |
| 13:47.56 | G0A | versatasthat game look like midtown madness |
| 13:48.22 | versatas | you know that this game was released yesterday? |
| 13:48.29 | versatas | by activision |
| 13:48.41 | versatas | for xbox, ps3, pc |
| 13:48.58 | G0A | lol |
| 13:49.05 | G0A | I though it was for mobile |
| 13:50.00 | versatas | ohhh and for wii u and other shit |
| 13:51.39 | versatas | plus they charging 40$ |
| 13:51.44 | G0A | midtown madness 2 was pretty nice game though. I used to play it lot in lan. |
| 13:51.58 | G0A | rofl 40 |
| 13:52.16 | G0A | I guess 30 for the name... |
| 13:53.24 | versatas | voice actors, useless cinematics |
| 13:56.16 | Zolden | and another example of fuckien bullshit http://i.snag.gy/L8fXX.jpg |
| 13:56.23 | Zolden | G0A is unity like C++? |
| 13:56.51 | Zolden | and does it have emulator to run code on pc? |
| 13:57.10 | Dustin | Im using Unity right now |
| 13:57.13 | Dustin | It's C# |
| 13:57.13 | Zolden | fro what os does it work, os or android? |
| 13:57.37 | Dustin | Unity is Cross Platform, Windows,Max,Linux,Android,iOS |
| 13:57.43 | Dustin | Mac* |
| 13:57.45 | Zolden | nice |
| 13:58.13 | Dustin | Been waiting to really get into Unity for a while now, but with the free mobile dev now, I'm going balls to the wall |
| 13:58.22 | Zolden | so we jsut create a game, sell it via app store and similar bullshit and be cool? |
| 13:59.27 | Dustin | Yup |
| 14:00.29 | Zolden | does it have open gl? |
| 14:00.45 | Dustin | Most likely |
| 14:01.21 | Zolden | i guess even 2d platformers' graphics would be more convenient to make on open gl |
| 14:01.53 | Dustin | Unity supports several renderers for its various platforms, Direct3D and OpenGL among them. |
| 14:02.05 | Zolden | good |
| 14:02.12 | Dustin | I heard 2D games are a bit weird to setup |
| 14:02.25 | Dustin | Since Unity is a 3D Object Oriented Game engine by heart |
| 14:02.44 | Dustin | You can Do 2D stuff, but you have to make a lot of your own internals I hear |
| 14:02.53 | Zolden | it would be much weirder to set up 3d games on 2d engine |
| 14:03.07 | Dustin | weird, more like impossible :P |
| 14:03.21 | Dustin | That's like you trying to model in Paint |
| 14:03.26 | Zolden | in open gl you can easily do 2d stuff |
| 14:03.35 | G0A | Dustin there are 2d packs to make life easier if you want to do 2d unity game |
| 14:03.43 | Dustin | Yeah but you gotta pay for those :) |
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| 14:04.03 | Zolden | isn't everything in the world pirated yet? |
| 14:04.04 | Dustin | I've wanted to make my first standalone game 2D |
| 14:04.35 | Dustin | Just for scale and time sake |
| 14:07.28 | Zolden | btw, sc2 mapmaking experience is a good thing for common programming |
| 14:07.44 | Zolden | makes brain think in more object orinted ctegories |
| 14:24.04 | G0A | yeah |
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| 14:40.29 | maZel | hi |
| 14:40.40 | maZel | can anyone help me? |
| 14:41.29 | maZel | i want to move player to a special player group after an event and i want to give that group the rights only to chat with their group, is that possible? |
| 14:42.21 | versatas | alliance between those players? |
| 14:42.47 | Dustin | Mazel, just Make a new Group, and then add/remove players to it as necessary |
| 14:42.56 | versatas | or some special dialogs items created that is like chat but at the same time not |
| 14:43.26 | maZel | yea, there should be an alliance between those players |
| 14:43.32 | Dustin | You can intercept chat messages when they type, and check their groups, then have special Dialogs that then display that text only to certain groups |
| 14:44.27 | maZel | hmm... so i will check after every message in which group the player is right? |
| 14:45.01 | Dustin | That's probably going to be the only way to do it |
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| 14:45.07 | maZel | kk |
| 14:45.21 | maZel | thx |
| 14:45.25 | egod | hey dustin what this option case mean in the editor |
| 14:45.44 | egod | over: map option |
| 14:45.57 | egod | Stagger Periodic Triggers Events |
| 14:46.10 | Dustin | So all your periodics dont run at the same time |
| 14:46.14 | egod | if i have a tons of 0.1 sec trigger events, should i click this? |
| 14:46.20 | Dustin | Depends |
| 14:46.37 | egod | depends of what |
| 14:46.44 | Dustin | Are you doing a lot of calculations in these triggers that when combined with running multiple cause lag spikes? |
| 14:47.04 | egod | i do some yes |
| 14:47.15 | Dustin | It won't hurt anything to enable that on all your .1 periodic triggers and test |
| 14:47.27 | egod | hm |
| 15:00.16 | egod | ok, so , i tested it, its good...it remove some lag spike when changing zone |
| 15:01.32 | Dustin | Good deal! |
| 15:05.49 | maZel | sry, for that stupid question, but how can i check if a player is in a player group? |
| 15:05.58 | maZel | just by comparison == ? |
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| 15:19.02 | egod | any one have try MArvel Heroes Beta ? |
| 15:32.59 | Dustin | egod yes, it's pretty cool |
| 15:33.33 | Dustin | maZel,there is a function, you can do If(Player is in Player Group) |
| 15:35.01 | maZel | ... |
| 15:35.23 | maZel | dunno why i didnt see it |
| 15:35.24 | maZel | sry |
| 15:35.31 | Dustin | no problem! |
| 15:35.52 | egod | why you like Marvel Heroes ? |
| 15:36.01 | egod | graphic? gameplay? |
| 15:36.06 | Dustin | both are good |
| 15:36.09 | Dustin | I had fun playing it |
| 15:36.12 | egod | customize heros? |
| 15:36.18 | Dustin | Not really |
| 15:36.26 | egod | what you didnt like? |
| 15:36.58 | Dustin | I only played a couple of the beta weekends, but I didn't really find anytthing I didn't like about it |
| 15:37.07 | egod | ok |
| 15:37.21 | Dustin | It's going to be F2P, so worth a try when it's released |
| 15:37.35 | egod | its soon |
| 15:37.43 | egod | its like 4 june or something |
| 15:38.02 | Dustin | ya that's it! |
| 15:38.13 | Dustin | So like a little less than 2 weeks, nice |
| 15:38.32 | egod | have you notice almost each game are released when WoW server are down? |
| 15:38.51 | Dustin | I don't pay attention to wow servers anymore, so no :P |
| 15:38.55 | egod | lol |
| 15:40.33 | egod | i know there was a thread on MArvel Heros Forums about my Map on Sc2, cause i receive a very high % of view of my websote and video from this marvelheros.com, but i cant access the forum cause i was not in the beta |
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| 15:40.36 | Repo | New announcement: Infested Arena 3 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/infested-arena-3/ |
| 15:41.41 | egod | *another arena map type game* |
| 15:41.46 | egod | just another |
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| 16:16.58 | *** topic/#sc2mapster is http://sc2mapster.com | sc2mapster bnet2 channel | WCS Partnership for eSports g0g0! | We want your broken maps! http://bit.ly/aU9AgC | This channel is logged, via purl |
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| 16:31.59 | Dustin | No, just getting use to Unity's setup |
| 16:51.40 | Vailreth | splendid |
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| 17:04.05 | Dustin | Hi Vailreth |
| 17:04.16 | Vailreth | hello |
| 17:10.05 | egod | pewww i just fixed a exploit, infinite life potion for the win! |
| 17:15.02 | Vailreth | nice |
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| 17:22.58 | egod | it is possible to not allow the host or whatever player to switch a Slot in the Lobby to (Computer) |
| 17:23.14 | egod | i dont want them to choose anything actuelly |
| 17:26.09 | Dustin | Not sure about that one |
| 17:26.56 | versatas | hey anyone knows how to track with triggers the owner who kills unit if the killing blow was with yamato cannon |
| 17:27.06 | versatas | the spell missle |
| 17:32.30 | Dustin | You can check when the Damage effect triggers, then you can get your player/unit variables from there. then you can do a check on the unit that the damage effected and see if he's dead or not. If so, then you know he's dead and have the player who killed him with that effect specifically |
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| 18:11.14 | egod | Blizz-Tenarsis Question: Will you comments and record more Custom map for the arcade like you did with Warship ? |
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| 18:12.28 | egod | like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cSIffGTQvBo |
| 18:13.31 | Blizz-Tenarsis | egod: I think so, not directly involved in it though |
| 18:13.47 | egod | good stuff! |
| 18:14.53 | egod | Will release soon this: http://thecurseoftristram.com/ |
| 18:16.21 | versatas | Blizz-Tenarsis so we arent allowed to remake Blizz campaign maps like coop versions, other? |
| 18:16.32 | versatas | WoL ones |
| 18:16.35 | versatas | at least |
| 18:17.21 | Blizz-Tenarsis | versatas: not sure I understand the context of your question, afaik that is completely allowed, as long as you aren't helping people bypass license restrictions |
| 18:18.34 | versatas | well I read the license of custom maps and there are written that we arent allowed to use Blizzard maps........ |
| 18:19.23 | Blizz-Tenarsis | hmm |
| 18:20.34 | versatas | "Custom Game developers are not allowed to re-create single player missions or scenarios or multiplayer maps that Blizzard has created for StarCraft II. " |
| 18:23.11 | Blizz-Tenarsis | that is weird, I have to assume it is related to what I said about bypassing license restrictions |
| 18:23.28 | Blizz-Tenarsis | if you modify a single player mission then you aren't really recreating it |
| 18:23.37 | Blizz-Tenarsis | I'll have to ask someone |
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| 18:32.00 | egod | Blizz-Tenarsis What really append to Blizzard-All-Stars ? ;) |
| 18:32.41 | versatas | still indevelopment for infinate time |
| 18:35.23 | egod | or HEartstone take his place |
| 18:36.03 | versatas | The post office provided some life advice on what to do in a troubled relationship pic.twitter.com/3o7rE5mtoQ |
| 18:39.45 | JademusSreg | Taking a look at the old SC2 Map Analyzer source code. People say it doesn't work with new maps (since 1.5), and I'm thinking it's either compiled with an outdated StormLib library or unexpected compression is causing it to throw the warning. |
| 18:39.52 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 18:40.15 | egod | hehe |
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| 18:44.03 | Zolden | MoonEater waht if someone offer you some mars, would you try it? |
| 18:44.20 | Blizz-Tenarsis | egod: working on it right now :) |
| 18:44.46 | egod | excellent! |
| 18:45.17 | Tolkfan | Does sc2 have anisotropic filtering? o.O |
| 18:48.57 | Zolden | JademusSreg is there a chance u're still here? |
| 18:49.02 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:49.22 | Zolden | JademusSreg do you know how to apply a spherical gradient instead of linear in PS? |
| 18:49.49 | Zolden | by spherical i mean that intensivity changes as semisphere's height |
| 18:50.40 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 18:51.26 | JademusSreg | Well, there are radial gradients, and you can adjust the parameters. |
| 18:52.09 | Zolden | Blizz-Tenarsis is there a chance that All-Stars' players will also have access to sc2 arcade maps? |
| 18:52.17 | Zolden | JademusSreg lemme check |
| 18:52.59 | JademusSreg | Once you create a gradient fill layer, click on the layer or otherwise access its properties dialog and adjust/add markers to change the gradient parameters. |
| 18:54.14 | JademusSreg | Default is 0% colorA to 100% colorB, with a blend marker at 50% to make it blend linearly. |
| 18:55.03 | G0A | Blizz-Tenarsis will we ever get real time tracking? (access to bnet clock, date and year.) |
| 18:55.33 | Zolden | JademusSreg you mean "Layer Style" window? |
| 18:55.48 | JademusSreg | Er. |
| 18:58.16 | Zolden | oh, right, gradient fill layer |
| 18:58.21 | Zolden | different kind of layer |
| 18:58.32 | Zolden | ok, and how to change gradient's curve? |
| 18:58.52 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Images/WaerRadicalGraduatesYo.jpg |
| 19:00.29 | Zolden | how did you enter that gradient editor? |
| 19:00.47 | Zolden | i only found that little gradient fill window |
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| 19:00.56 | JademusSreg | Select the pulldown. |
| 19:01.09 | JademusSreg | It will open the presets / parameter dialog. |
| 19:02.53 | Zolden | righ |
| 19:03.02 | Zolden | ok, and how to change the curve? |
| 19:03.35 | JademusSreg | See the gradient bar? Markers above and below it? |
| 19:04.01 | JademusSreg | You can move the markers, add markers, move those, et cetera. |
| 19:04.42 | JademusSreg | If you move the center marker (only appears on hover), you shift the mid-point blend. |
| 19:07.20 | Zolden | so, it's always line-based gradient, i jsut have to imitate the roundness of the curve bby creating alot of points? |
| 19:08.13 | Zolden | DeadZergling today I realized, that there is no chance I can create anims for the models we haven't sources of |
| 19:10.05 | DeadZergling | How is it we don't sources for those models, they are all stock? |
| 19:10.39 | JademusSreg | Confirmed, SC2 Map Analyzer uses an old version of StormLib. |
| 19:10.40 | Zolden | if we import m3's, we have fucked bone structure |
| 19:11.17 | Deaod | which one, jade? |
| 19:11.36 | JademusSreg | Dimfish's analyzer uses v7.0, compared to MPQEditor which uses v8.21. |
| 19:12.21 | JademusSreg | So I'm wondering if a simple update to the source would be sufficient to get the SC2 Map Analyzer working again. |
| 19:12.26 | Deaod | the header StormLib.h says 7.02, but the version history goes up to 8.21 |
| 19:12.43 | Deaod | look a bit further down |
| 19:13.32 | JademusSreg | I grabbed the 1.4.6 unofficial release of the analyzer, being the most recent. Which version history? |
| 19:13.54 | Deaod | StormLib.h has a little version history in its header |
| 19:15.16 | JademusSreg | Which source repository? |
| 19:15.25 | Deaod | huh? |
| 19:15.54 | Deaod | can you link me to the source code? |
| 19:16.27 | JademusSreg | I'm discussing the outdated StormLib used by dimfish's SC2 Map Analyzer; it apparently uses 7.0, which puts it 2 years behind. |
| 19:16.49 | Deaod | that one shouldnt even work for SC2 archives |
| 19:16.55 | JademusSreg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc2-map-analyzer/ https://github.com/RFDaemoniac/sc2-map-analyzer |
| 19:17.40 | JademusSreg | These are the two sources I'm looking at; I'd link the SVN for the mapster version, but git is more convenient. |
| 19:18.29 | Deaod | hmmmm |
| 19:18.36 | JademusSreg | It worked for SC2 maps up to the 1.5 patch, which is comical. |
| 19:18.40 | Deaod | StormLib.h doesnt seem to be in the repo |
| 19:18.49 | JademusSreg | Yes, that amused me as well. |
| 19:19.10 | JademusSreg | Didn't see the header file for some other shit either. |
| 19:19.21 | Deaod | wait, then how did you find out the version? |
| 19:19.35 | JademusSreg | Hex editor, string search. |
| 19:20.03 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 19:21.07 | JademusSreg | Yeah, sometimes crude tools are helpful. =D |
| 19:22.22 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 19:22.44 | Deaod | you could probably recompile StormLib and drop an updated version in |
| 19:22.54 | JademusSreg | Yes, that's what I figure. |
| 19:23.12 | JademusSreg | The API shouldn't be altogether terrible different, from what I see. |
| 19:23.36 | JademusSreg | Haven't finished looking over the source for the one deprecated API function. |
| 19:24.26 | JademusSreg | But the analyzer shouldn't be creating any archives in the first place. |
| 19:25.52 | Deaod | which deprecated function is it using? |
| 19:26.19 | JademusSreg | Considering extending it to extract the relevant XML files from the base MPQs via a config-defined list or some such. |
| 19:26.33 | JademusSreg | Oh, it probably isn't using it. SFileCreateArchiveEx |
| 19:27.21 | Deaod | ah |
| 19:27.23 | Deaod | that one |
| 19:29.07 | Deaod | no, it shouldnt be using it |
| 19:32.16 | Deaod | have you imported the github repo yet? |
| 19:33.21 | JademusSreg | Not yet. Grabbed the source archive to look over the files, haven't imported the repo. |
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| 19:33.48 | JademusSreg | Though if you're inclined nad have your workstation setup, feel free to save me the trouble. |
| 19:33.50 | JademusSreg | *and |
| 19:33.52 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:34.03 | Deaod | tinyxml header is missing as well |
| 19:34.08 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that one. |
| 19:34.11 | Deaod | ffs. |
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| 19:34.58 | Vailreth | sup peeps |
| 19:35.15 | JademusSreg | StormLib is open source, so that can be recompiled if needed. Didn't investigate tinyxml yet. |
| 19:35.16 | Deaod | although ... he might simply be recreating the archive ... |
| 19:35.18 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 19:35.24 | Deaod | open source as well |
| 19:35.33 | Deaod | tinyxml that is |
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| 19:46.12 | JademusSreg | Back. |
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| 19:48.11 | JademusSreg | When I can, I'll grab the sources and recompile. |
| 19:50.33 | JademusSreg | Of course, being the sort that's economical in my labor, I'd be just as pleased if the legwork were done before I bothered. =D |
| 19:51.14 | versatas | http://www.theonion.com/articles/features-of-the-xbox-one,32543/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=SocialMarketing&utm_campaign=standard-post:headline:default |
| 19:51.59 | egod | Windows XP lol |
| 19:53.03 | versatas | have ffun kids! |
| 19:53.06 | versatas | blizz: "Custom Game developers are not allowed to re-create single player missions or scenarios or multiplayer maps that Blizzard has created for StarCraft II. " |
| 19:53.08 | versatas | wtf |
| 19:53.31 | egod | rage! |
| 19:53.48 | egod | ignore him |
| 19:54.40 | Deaod | ill try jade |
| 19:54.52 | Deaod | heres a funny function though: float xtof_helper( char c ) |
| 19:55.57 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. Splendid. Meanwhile, I'll get my shit setup, since manually defining footprints in a config file is abhorent. |
| 19:57.51 | JademusSreg | I expect this should resolve the issue, and melee map devs in particular will likely be pleased. |
| 19:58.14 | Deaod | note: do not try to compile SC2MA with Visual studio |
| 19:59.49 | JademusSreg | Haha, bad juju? |
| 20:00.17 | Deaod | no, it was created with MinGW |
| 20:00.41 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 20:00.56 | Deaod | transferring between those seems like kind of a pain |
| 20:03.24 | Deaod | and pngwriter was apparently created by some schmuck with a mac. |
| 20:03.36 | Deaod | i hate archives created on macs. |
| 20:04.17 | Deaod | "Here, have a couple extra files, because you sure as hell havent had enough yet." |
| 20:04.33 | JademusSreg | Reminds me of all the shit I need to update. |
| 20:06.02 | JademusSreg | Gotta update both my MinGW and code::blocks. |
| 20:12.27 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 20:12.51 | Deaod | i dont have a mingw installation that i can use for this, so i cant really help you ... |
| 20:13.01 | Deaod | i should probably figure that stuff out at some point |
| 20:16.09 | JademusSreg | I'm in no rush; I expected setting up would take a non-trivial amount of time. |
| 20:17.24 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure it's only using MinGW for the simple cmd window. |
| 20:20.32 | JademusSreg | Will know more when I'm able to do more than a cursory examination. |
| 20:21.23 | Deaod | nah, it has a makefile |
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| 20:23.16 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 20:23.55 | Deaod | though im pretty much a noob when it comes to mingw |
| 20:24.05 | Deaod | so what im saying might be completely off |
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| 20:26.20 | JademusSreg | Fresh catalogues installed, now to configure and update my code::blocks. After any number of intermediary steps, I'll -eventually- have recompiled StormLib in VS and can recompile the analyzer source in code::blocks. |
| 20:27.11 | Deaod | i can save you recompiling StormLib |
| 20:27.54 | Deaod | i have the most recent version ready |
| 20:29.57 | JademusSreg | Lovely. That's one less chore. =D |
| 20:30.15 | Deaod | im not entirely sure what you need though |
| 20:30.22 | Deaod | the dll, obviously |
| 20:30.24 | Deaod | but what lib |
| 20:30.46 | JademusSreg | shrugs. |
| 20:31.00 | JademusSreg | Send whichever. I can sort it out. |
| 20:31.17 | Deaod | because the lib that goes with the dll is only 12 KB (the current one is 453KB) |
| 20:32.18 | Deaod | StormLib can also be compiled for static linkage in which case the .lib is ~5000KB |
| 20:32.35 | Deaod | and im talking about the release builds, too |
| 20:33.08 | JademusSreg | I have a few suspicions about the quirks observed so far, but I'll reserve judgment until I've got my shit updated and am prepared to test. |
| 20:33.34 | Deaod | how should i send those files to you? |
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| 20:34.42 | JademusSreg | But basically I suspect it wasn't compiled separately, and was instead defined in code::blocks as a library. |
| 20:35.25 | JademusSreg | Anyway, email or dropbox, whichever is more convenient. |
| 20:35.48 | Deaod | hmmm |
| 20:36.21 | Deaod | if you have a couple minutes, let me get dropbox set up again |
| 20:36.47 | JademusSreg | I've got however long until I pass out and sleep. Soonish. |
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| 20:43.23 | Deaod | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1220189/StormLib.dll |
| 20:43.30 | Deaod | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1220189/StormLib.lib |
| 20:45.16 | Deaod | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1220189/StormLib.h |
| 20:45.23 | Deaod | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1220189/StormPort.h |
| 20:48.00 | JademusSreg | Excellent. |
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| 20:48.27 | JademusSreg | I've got most of my setup completed. I'll finish the rest later, after much needed sleep. |
| 20:50.05 | Deaod | good night then, i guess |
| 20:50.51 | JademusSreg | Probably won't be a long nap. bbl |
| 20:51.32 | egod | is it possible for 2xUnit die at SAME exact time? |
| 20:51.38 | egod | i dont think |
| 20:52.10 | Zolden | ask twodie |
| 20:52.38 | Deaod | errr, when would that matter? |
| 20:52.59 | egod | Spalsh damage can kill 2 or more unit, but in the editor, is this really at same time? there probably a 0.0000001 sec difference |
| 20:53.27 | Zolden | difference can't be more then 0.0625s |
| 20:53.31 | Deaod | in what context? |
| 20:53.48 | Zolden | if there are no delay effects involved, it will be the same tick |
| 20:54.32 | egod | because i try to Detect who killed the unit, PLayer 1 or Player 2 |
| 20:54.42 | Deaod | okay, so scripting |
| 20:55.32 | egod | will have to change my script god dammit |
| 20:55.57 | Deaod | then no, its not possible, because the VM executing the script code is single threaded |
| 20:56.26 | Zolden | what's VM? |
| 20:56.32 | Zolden | oh, virtual machine |
| 20:56.37 | Deaod | Virtual Machine |
| 20:56.44 | egod | hm |
| 20:56.50 | egod | will have to test this online |
| 20:58.41 | A1win | the units can die at the same time, but there's still an order in which they die |
| 20:59.18 | egod | i am pretty sure there a order to, will see this later |
| 20:59.19 | A1win | at the same "virtual time" |
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| 22:04.54 | MoonEater | Vail u out there? |
| 22:08.46 | Vailreth | i am here |
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| 22:16.13 | MoonEater916 | Wait |
| 22:16.40 | MoonEater916 | Sorry changing networks |
| 22:17.18 | MoonEater916 | Vail can I in cutscene edit Raynor's movement or do I need to import the animation from 3ds? |
| 22:19.53 | MoonEater916 | I'm still here |
| 22:20.10 | Vailreth | as of right now the cutscene editor can only plat animation in the model file |
| 22:20.15 | Vailreth | play* |
| 22:22.01 | MoonEater916 | Damn I don't have 3ds |
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| 22:23.06 | Enexy | the king |
| 22:23.08 | Enexy | has arrived |
| 22:25.50 | Vailreth | the blizz folks said they would like to have individual bone pose support but that it would be very very difficult |
| 22:32.44 | MoonEater916 | So what do I do since I don't have 3ds? |
| 22:35.28 | MoonEater916 | Vailreth |
| 22:36.17 | Vailreth | im not sure you may have to shift what you want to do |
| 22:37.29 | Vailreth | if the blender importer and exporter are still in development you can try using that to add your animations |
| 22:41.02 | Vailreth | otherwise my suggestion is be creative and try to come up with ways to not need to show what you cant show |
| 22:41.11 | MoonEater916 | Cinema 4D has 7 day full demo... |
| 22:41.26 | MoonEater916 | what format does the animation have to be in? |
| 22:42.01 | Vailreth | for the cutscene editor i believe they have to be part of the model file its self but i will check this |
| 22:42.43 | MoonEater916 | Geez well I did figure out the cutscene |
| 22:42.57 | MoonEater916 | Thanks for pushing me that way |
| 22:42.58 | Vailreth | if they dont they have to be in m3a |
| 22:43.13 | MoonEater916 | I was able to add some effects and make it much better |
| 22:43.34 | MoonEater916 | Supported formats? |
| 22:45.44 | Vailreth | what do you mean? sorry im a bit distracted |
| 22:47.39 | MoonEater916 | Well its m3a but it can support others ? Which ones |
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| 22:51.28 | Vailreth | that is the only animation file i believe it supports |
| 22:51.57 | Vailreth | the m3 model format and ogg and wave sounds..mp3 sounds i think as |
| 22:52.16 | Enexy | woogletttttttttts |
| 22:52.24 | Vailreth | tga and dds textures... and those are all the formats i know the engine supports |
| 22:52.24 | Enexy | Omg, what is a wooglet |
| 22:54.51 | Vailreth | there is also an m3h file but i have no clue what that does |
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| 23:02.47 | JohnnyZerg | has anyone ever thought of making a monopoly for sc2? |
| 23:02.53 | JohnnyZerg | hello* |
| 23:11.10 | Enexy | I think there was one already |
| 23:11.16 | Enexy | before the new arcade |
| 23:11.23 | Enexy | almost 99.9% positive on that |
| 23:16.01 | DeadZergling | probably, Monopoly wouldn't even be that hard to make happen really |
| 23:16.14 | DeadZergling | imagine the bulk of the time would be spent on making it look monopoly-like |
| 23:16.30 | DeadZergling | some snazzy dice animations, lol |
| 23:17.46 | DeadZergling | since when are you the King anyways Enexy :P |
| 23:19.12 | *** join/#sc2mapster Repo (~repo@68.64.47.41) |
| 23:23.29 | A1win | why on earth would you make such a horrible boardgame into a computer game which would just make it even more horrible :[ did I mention I don't like monopoly |
| 23:23.54 | Enexy | DeadZergling: Always |
| 23:34.29 | DeadZergling | Same reason someone would remake Diablo 1 for SC2 I suppose |
| 23:34.45 | DeadZergling | because they can |
| 23:35.51 | A1win | well I can understand making a portable wormhole generator "because we can" but remaking old games is just useless 8E |
| 23:44.26 | DeadZergling | well remakes aren't always a fail |
| 23:44.38 | DeadZergling | but a remake using another game as the base, bleh |
| 23:45.51 | DeadZergling | and I HATE watching ZvZ |
| 23:46.07 | DeadZergling | should be laws against it |
