IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20130509

`00:05.01`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kubi (~Kubi@53.sub-174-254-244.myvzw.com)`
`00:09.11`	`Kueken`	`www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfG6rwaRiAU`
`00:18.09`	`zeldarules28\|AFK`	`wooow :P`
`00:20.44`	`Ahli`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfG6rwaRiAU`
`00:21.33`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Nebuli (6c148aa2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.20.138.162)`
`00:25.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-188-101-191-021.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`00:25.43`	`Ahli`	`wowowow, that was so crazy, it crashed my browser`
`00:26.26`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`:O`
`00:27.32`	`zeldarules28`	`I'm such a data noob, that stuff's so impressive :P`
`00:27.37`	`Triceron`	`DeadZergling: make the Grackling`
`00:28.06`	`zeldarules28`	`If anybody needs me they can beep me, I'm working on some other stuff right now. ^.^`
`00:28.13`	`Ahli`	`everyone that can combine models like lego in data editor is a wizzard...`
`00:37.59`	`Kueken`	`I was impressed :)`
`00:38.24`	`Kueken`	`obviously, animations will be a problem, but the flying animation didn't look that bad`
`00:39.16`	`Kueken`	`also, I doubt that its done in data, you can see him manually inputting chat commands, also there were at least 5 units involved, which i assume are moved separately via trigger`
`00:44.29`	`DeadZergling`	`heh, I doubt I could make a sphere model at this moment triceron`
`00:44.32`	`DeadZergling`	`I'm not a modeler`
`00:45.27`	`Triceron`	`would it help if I modelled Idra's head for you to attach onto zerglings?`
`00:46.40`	`DeadZergling`	`lol perhaps, that might be doable`
`00:46.47`	`DeadZergling`	`make sure it is oversized w/ a tiny neck`
`00:46.59`	`Ahli`	`Does the supply label become red automatically or will I disable the red oversupply notice with a new style created with the editor?`
`00:49.56`	`Ahli`	`http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=411483&currentpage=4#73 idra is idra :D`
`00:52.42`	`Ahli`	`infinite anchor cycle, yessssss, I'm so not goood`
`00:57.09`	`DeadZergling`	`that sucks, not only is it ZvZ matchup`
`00:57.14`	`DeadZergling`	`but is one we already saw...`
`00:59.45`	`Ahli`	`what did I do wrong? http://pastebin.com/ayd7P9Tq`
`01:02.15`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:03.08`	`Ahli`	`no, was there to test, not that the frame had a right anchor that wasn't reset...`
`01:04.12`	`Ahli`	`it works when I define the left anchor to parent and mid... http://pastebin.com/exK2DbNg`
`01:04.46`	`Ahli`	`I could imagine that it traps itself in a unresolvable state when it iterates through the xml and applies changes`
`01:07.27`	`Ahli`	`also, yes it is required. The right anchor was used in the original frame`
`01:15.03`	`Ahli`	`http://snag.gy/18f5h.jpg :D`
`01:16.36`	`Ahli`	`coming closer to gameheart's dialogs http://i.snag.gy/N4ToP.jpg`
`01:17.33`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`very nice`
`01:37.50`	`Ahli`	`sixen, change the path in the tutorial. It's now in "%USERPROFILE%\Documents\StarCraft II\Interfaces" -> http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/51292-official-custom-observer-ui-information-guide/?post=1`
`01:39.02`	`Ahli`	`and there is a code tag missing a ">" :D`
`01:39.26`	`Ahli`	`in "Templates" section`
`01:39.57`	`Ahli`	`in 2nd post`
`01:41.19`	`Ahli`	`hmm, let's see if I can tint something with player color with a PlayerRaceIconFrame`
`01:50.09`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Renee (74e76ce0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.116.231.108.224)`
`01:51.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Stranger (~whois@69-165-140-223.dsl.teksavvy.com)`
`01:52.16`	`Renee`	`The 'Camera' field in Terran Type editor doesn't work. Think it is a bug?`
`01:54.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Works fine for me.`
`01:55.32`	`Renee`	`Tried create war3 style Camera in data editor (More close view than SC2 camera), but it doesn't applie in the map, Hmmm. Had to use trigger to apply the Camera Data instead`
`01:56.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vindicator (Vindicator@cpe-76-183-15-117.tx.res.rr.com)`
`01:58.57`	`Ahli`	`corruptor's corruption in hots doesn't look like overseer's corruption on low settings, does it?`
`01:59.41`	`zeldarules28`	`Ahli I can fix that post for you. Where's the missing tags?`
`02:00.10`	`Ahli`	`orange templates, the text below that`
`02:00.13`	`Ahli`	`2nd post`
`02:00.33`	`Renee`	`Ahli, have you see this reply?http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8569859687`
`02:00.40`	`Ahli`	`"<<code>. <Frame type="Image"" search this`
`02:01.14`	`zeldarules28`	`oh, it's the actual attached fil`
`02:01.16`	`zeldarules28`	`file*`
`02:01.45`	`Ahli`	`Renee: the ingame UI editor shows me "PlayerId" field`
`02:01.56`	`Ahli`	`for a PlayerRaceIconFrame`
`02:02.31`	`DeadZergling`	`I'm out anyways, have fun UIing Ahli`
`02:02.42`	`Ahli`	`^^`
`02:03.18`	`zeldarules28`	`Okay, should be fixed now ^.^`
`02:03.21`	`zeldarules28`	`Thanks for finding that :D`
`02:03.43`	`Ahli`	`you didn't delete the random dot`
`02:03.54`	`zeldarules28`	`oh no, there's a random dot?`
`02:04.23`	`Ahli`	`yes, and it's staring at me`
`02:05.10`	`zeldarules28`	`Aha! Zap`
`02:05.18`	`zeldarules28`	`annndddd It's gone`
`02:05.51`	`Renee`	`hmm, you are right. It looks like there are some inconsistency between UI frame types.`
`02:11.41`	`Ahli`	`Renee: do you got an idea how to make an image use the player color?`
`02:11.49`	`Sixen`	`Ahli: wut? that's exactly what it says, no?`
`02:12.00`	`Ahli`	`sixen, thank zeldarules28`
`02:12.04`	`Sixen`	`oh`
`02:12.07`	`Sixen`	`what did it say before?`
`02:12.11`	`zeldarules28`	`hee hee :P`
`02:12.28`	`zeldarules28`	`It was a longer path that went into sc2/accounts/interface`
`02:12.30`	`zeldarules28`	`I guess they changed it`
`02:12.32`	`Ahli`	`"<<code>. <Frame type" DAT DOTTTT`
`02:12.46`	`Sixen`	`ahh I see`
`02:12.56`	`zeldarules28`	`sorry, I ninja'd it`
`02:13.05`	`Ahli`	`and the interface path was changed with the last patch :D`
`02:15.27`	`Ahli`	`oh damned, I didn't notice that I'm listening to rules of engagement the whole time`
`02:26.09`	`Ahli`	`when I toggle alt+F the PlayerImage and the PlayerRaceImage aren't immediately updated =/`
`02:29.04`	`Ahli`	`same as selection circles of players ^^`
`02:43.20`	`Dogmai`	`So Blizzard peeps show up for 2 days and suddenly everyone comes back -_-`
`02:43.57`	`Ahli`	`who came back?`
`02:44.06`	`Dogmai`	`Becomes active*`
`02:44.09`	`Dogmai`	`Not you`
`02:44.12`	`Dogmai`	`You always have no life`
`02:44.14`	`Dogmai`	`<3`
`02:44.16`	`Ahli`	`:D`
`02:44.41`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`dogmai: fix committed today for your restart crash`
`02:44.56`	`Dogmai`	`Oh awesome, what was the cause of it mate?`
`02:45.21`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`bad code`
`02:45.26`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`:P`
`02:45.26`	`Dogmai`	`lol`
`02:45.32`	`Ahli`	`Blizz-Tenarsis: do you know if there is a frame I can use to create player color tinted images?`
`02:45.34`	`Dogmai`	`Who wrote that bad code O_O`
`02:46.20`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`Ahli: any images contained inside a player frame should inherit the tint color for that player`
`02:46.36`	`Ahli`	`k, thx, testing`
`02:46.41`	`Dogmai`	`I actually have a bigger problem Tenarsis`
`02:47.17`	`Dogmai`	`Since roughly the time that HotS came out and the corresponding Diablo patch, anytime I am in full-screen mode (not full-screen window) and I alt tab or exit the game I blue screen.`
`02:47.33`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`updated graphics card drivers?`
`02:47.36`	`Dogmai`	`First time my computer has ever bluescreened in it's life.`
`02:47.37`	`Dogmai`	`Nope`
`02:47.41`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`update them`
`02:48.05`	`zeldarules28`	`BSOD from a alt-tab? O.o`
`02:48.07`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`blue screen impllies driver level problem`
`02:48.38`	`Dogmai`	`Oh....`
`02:48.42`	`Dogmai`	`I just remembered`
`02:48.48`	`Dogmai`	`I think I updated my drivers around the same time`
`02:48.57`	`Dogmai`	`They are not current though now`
`02:49.24`	`Dogmai`	`Ill update them now, thanks mate :)`
`02:50.21`	`Renee`	`http://www2.ati.com/drivers/beta/amd_catalyst_13.5_beta2.exe`
`02:51.07`	`Blizz-Tenarsis`	`np, cya tomorrow... heading out`
`02:51.11`	`Ahli`	`bb`
`02:51.12`	`Dogmai`	`Later mate`
`02:51.22`	`zeldarules28`	`cya :D`
`02:51.23`	`Dogmai`	`Renee, Nvidia :P`
`02:52.07`	`Renee`	`well~~`
`02:52.16`	`Dogmai`	`I am installing the drivers now`
`02:52.29`	`Dogmai`	`Google > Baidu :)`
`02:53.01`	`Ahli`	`wow, American nvidia page is soo much cooler than the German one`
`02:53.07`	`Ahli`	`too bad I've an AMD card now...`
`02:53.45`	`Renee`	`Actually I never use baidu. Though google sometimes got blocked in China`
`02:55.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah, now I have the camera issue as well. Perhaps I must force a terrain update.`
`02:55.29`	`Dogmai`	`Yea`
`02:55.59`	`Dogmai`	`Imma restart, don't be naughty while I am gone`
`02:56.01`	`Dogmai`	`o_O`
`03:00.38`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dogmai (~Dogmai@58-7-105-151.dyn.iinet.net.au)`
`03:06.00`	`Ahli`	`shhh, he's back`
`03:13.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster yttrium (~herolief@c-24-0-64-60.hsd1.nj.comcast.net)`
`03:14.57`	`*** join/#sc2mapster ClayMuffin (18351cc8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.53.28.200)`
`03:19.38`	`ClayMuffin`	`cough`
`03:19.47`	`ClayMuffin`	`well`
`03:19.58`	`ClayMuffin`	`anybody toyed with pylon and power before?`
`03:20.21`	`ClayMuffin`	`Should be simple as hell, but heck I can't get a custom building to work...`
`03:21.03`	`ClayMuffin`	`The power source is showing a range, but the building require the power source won't recognise it and allow me to build within the source`
`03:21.32`	`ClayMuffin`	`but the building requiring the power source*`
`03:21.33`	`Ahli`	`build within something -> footprint is wrong`
`03:22.05`	`ClayMuffin`	`power source are generated with a range`
`03:22.11`	`ClayMuffin`	`not a footprint if I understand`
`03:22.25`	`ClayMuffin`	`or`
`03:22.27`	`ClayMuffin`	`ororor`
`03:22.32`	`ClayMuffin`	`i might be a douchbag`
`03:22.35`	`ClayMuffin`	`:)`
`03:22.47`	`ClayMuffin`	`I think I might know where the problem come from`
`03:22.51`	`Kueken`	`when I doubled the range of a pylon, I didn't modify a footprint`
`03:24.00`	`ClayMuffin`	`yea, not the footprint I think.`
`03:24.05`	`ClayMuffin`	`in the end`
`03:26.22`	`ClayMuffin`	`found it`
`03:26.45`	`ClayMuffin`	`when I set the ID, it changed the power source ID to`
`03:26.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ahli_ (~qqqq@dslb-188-101-189-227.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`03:26.52`	`Ahli_`	`I've the feeling I need to tint everything via playerraceframe... :<`
`03:27.32`	`ClayMuffin`	`the behavior : power link to be exact`
`03:31.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Cardanis (80bb6114@gateway/web/freenode/ip.128.187.97.20)`
`03:32.22`	`Cardanis`	`Quick question: When doodas are 'pathable', and your unit moves with the height of the model, what causes that?`
`03:32.39`	`Cardanis`	`Like the fortified walkway doodad, the units automatically go to the height of what they're standing on`
`03:32.48`	`Cardanis`	`Except. . . . for the 90 degree walls.`
`03:32.56`	`Cardanis`	`Those have proper pathing, but they walk THROUGH the unit`
`03:32.57`	`Cardanis`	`any ideas?`
`03:33.49`	`Kueken`	`I am pretty sure that the model file needs to have certain specifications to be able to do that, and you need to set a flag for the model data type.`
`03:34.37`	`Kueken`	`I definitely was able to switch between those 2 states before, but cannot seem to find the testmap where I tried it`
`03:34.41`	`Kueken`	`was a long time ago`
`03:35.33`	`Cardanis`	`alright, thanks`
`03:35.39`	`Kueken`	`anyway, if the model data is set up the same way, chances are you need to modify the actual model files`
`03:35.42`	`Cardanis`	`it just seems weird that some of the models in this wall pack do it, and others don't`
`03:36.18`	`Kueken`	`could you tell me a model that is walkable the way you need it?`
`03:36.23`	`Kueken`	`then I test it again`
`03:38.30`	`Kueken`	`highlight me when you do, otherwise I won't notice`
`03:39.13`	`Cardanis`	`Kueken: The 'unit' name, is HoTs- Fortified Walkway 90`
`03:39.21`	`Cardanis`	`Fortified Walkway 45 works fine, but not 90`
`03:40.17`	`Cardanis`	`oh, it's a doodad`
`03:45.04`	`Cardanis`	`These really weren't even built that well, they don't even connect properly`
`03:45.16`	`Cardanis`	`there's like, a few pixels inbetween pixels with the corners where the unit drops through`
`03:46.41`	`Kueken`	`well, its definitely the asset`
`03:47.05`	`Kueken`	`when I change the asset used by the 90 model to the 45 model, it works without any change at all`
`03:48.58`	`Cardanis`	`well boo. I guess I can just rotate it 45, and hope that works lol`
`03:49.00`	`Cardanis`	`I'll toy with this more`
`03:49.07`	`Kueken`	`also, you can press shift to adjust the pieces independend of the grid`
`03:49.17`	`Kueken`	`so you can make them connect properly`
`03:52.56`	`Kueken`	`also, for future reference: If you change the "Art: Physics Type" of the model to Never, you won't walk on top of the model anymore`
`03:53.23`	`Cardanis`	`Oooh, well that's good to know`
`04:10.02`	`ClayMuffin`	`Strangely, my trigger editor always open with all folder opened... Is there any way to make trigger folder closed by default?`
`04:10.25`	`ClayMuffin`	`trigger module*`
`04:11.51`	`Kueken`	`you can specify which models should be opened on editor start, I believe`
`04:12.41`	`Kueken`	`*modules`
`04:12.53`	`Kueken`	`if thats what you are asking`
`04:19.05`	`ClayMuffin`	`hum`
`04:19.15`	`ClayMuffin`	`not exactly, but thats not a big thing anyway`
`04:20.04`	`ClayMuffin`	`I don,t remember the command to search in the console, Jade told me once, but I don,t remember it`
`04:20.18`	`ClayMuffin`	`what was it already?`
`04:21.22`	`ClayMuffin`	`browse`
`04:23.44`	`Kueken`	`yep`
`04:23.57`	`zeldarules28`	`ClayMuffin there is a way :D`
`04:24.04`	`zeldarules28`	`Just figured this one out for starmon`
`04:24.17`	`ClayMuffin`	`what is it?`
`04:24.22`	`Kueken`	`"don't use triggers" hurr hurr`
`04:24.25`	`zeldarules28`	`Only FIRST level folders are open by default. So just create a "main" folder and put all the other ones inside`
`04:24.35`	`ClayMuffin`	`o`
`04:24.37`	`ClayMuffin`	`nice`
`04:24.42`	`zeldarules28`	`Everything's closed that way except the 'main' folder, which is open to show everything else`
`04:24.47`	`zeldarules28`	`nice n neat :P`
`04:24.55`	`ClayMuffin`	`Thanks`
`04:25.01`	`zeldarules28`	`no problem ^.^`
`04:25.08`	`zeldarules28`	`Although kueken's right, you could just not use triggers`
`04:25.24`	`ClayMuffin`	`Data does not like me`
`04:25.53`	`ClayMuffin`	`I said to Captn Kirk`
`04:26.03`	`ClayMuffin`	`Oh I'm such a wise ass`
`04:28.01`	`ClayMuffin`	`Damn I just can't find the validator responsible for telling you that your are not building your protos structure within the power grid`
`04:29.15`	`Kueken`	`there is a validator for that?`
`04:29.31`	`Kueken`	`or are you referring to an alert?`
`04:29.37`	`ClayMuffin`	`alert`
`04:30.15`	`ClayMuffin`	`I tought it was a validator, but it seem more logical to be an alert`
`04:35.09`	`ClayMuffin`	`In any way, i can,t seem to find it`
`04:35.41`	`ClayMuffin`	`It must be an alert since it plays a sound AND a text message to your screen when you try to build a protos building outside the power grid`
`04:35.52`	`ClayMuffin`	`No idea how it'S named`
`04:36.59`	`ClayMuffin`	`I found it in the text module though`
`04:45.36`	`ClayMuffin`	`If an error message is displayed with sound, itS' automatically an alert right?`
`04:45.47`	`ClayMuffin`	`like supply block`
`04:47.17`	`ClayMuffin`	`ok I'm off`
`04:47.20`	`ClayMuffin`	`sto sleepy`
`04:47.26`	`ClayMuffin`	`have a good night`
`05:04.59`	`*** join/#sc2mapster qweqa (4e3c1a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.60.26.40)`
`05:58.46`	`*** join/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.252.23.pool.invitel.hu)`
`07:54.32`	`*** join/#sc2mapster shintah (bebble@h-14-189.a336.priv.bahnhof.se)`
`08:11.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-245-51.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`08:15.43`	`*** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.252.23.pool.invitel.hu)`
`08:16.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.252.23.pool.invitel.hu)`
`08:25.00`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (588704ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.135.4.202)`
`08:53.43`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RipperRoo (~RipperRoo@p57902790.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`09:14.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Boring patch is boring.`
`09:15.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Nothing of interest found from digging through client memory and patch mpqs.`
`09:22.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Wrath (a9e91b0f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.169.233.27.15)`
`09:22.59`	`Wrath`	`Yo Jademus, you here?`
`09:23.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`09:23.23`	`Wrath`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/52414-hot-s-achievement-sheets/#p2`
`09:23.25`	`Wrath`	`:D`
`09:23.29`	`JademusSreg`	`I noticed. =D`
`09:23.39`	`Wrath`	`From a Blizzard dev no less.`
`09:24.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Downloaded them all, though a path would have been more desirable. No worries.`
`09:24.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Got al ink to the bnet post?`
`09:24.28`	`Wrath`	`Truuue.`
`09:24.29`	`Wrath`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8769437963#2`
`09:25.16`	`JademusSreg`	`So I was correct; the data is streamed on demand.`
`09:25.42`	`JademusSreg`	`I expected them to be cached, but apparently not.`
`09:26.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Thus, no path.`
`09:26.23`	`Wrath`	`At least he/she said they may restore them.`
`09:26.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. That will be more convenient.`
`09:28.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Just finished digging through the new patch data. Nothing of interest, sadly. Though the reference to War3.SC2Mod remains in the client memory, so that's still something.`
`09:28.34`	`Wrath`	`I don't know anything about that.`
`09:29.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah. The reference is in the SC2 client memory, appeared in version 2.0.4 or so.`
`09:29.18`	`JademusSreg`	`It suggests a mod for warcraft assets.`
`09:29.19`	`Wrath`	`BTW, did you see this: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/gui/50450-layout-frame-element-support-list/#p16`
`09:29.26`	`Wrath`	`Well that would be sick.`
`09:29.30`	`Wrath`	`I hope it happpen.`
`09:30.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Didn't see that post. Is that type not in my huge list?`
`09:30.52`	`Wrath`	`It's not.`
`09:30.56`	`Wrath`	`I don't think it exists.`
`09:31.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm. Well, you can create new frames easily enough.`
`09:31.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blub\w (~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061)`
`09:31.37`	`Wrath`	`But how could you make it display the unit's owner's name?`
`09:31.40`	`Wrath`	`That's all I want.`
`09:31.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Basically, you try it and if the editor doesn't pop an error, it's valid.`
`09:31.52`	`Wrath`	`I did try it, and it popped up an error.`
`09:32.01`	`Wrath`	`It's possible I did it wrong, but IDK.`
`09:32.42`	`JademusSreg`	`No worries. I'll test it later, provided I am reminded.`
`09:33.25`	`Wrath`	`Somebody told me how to get a shielded health bar working too`
`09:33.35`	`Wrath`	`Previously I couldn't get it to display shields`
`09:33.43`	`JademusSreg`	`And it is on my list.`
`09:33.44`	`Wrath`	`Other people on the forums were having trouble too`
`09:33.48`	`JademusSreg`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/7445/`
`09:33.51`	`Wrath`	`Yeah, I know`
`09:33.59`	`Wrath`	`But by default it doesn't actually display shields`
`09:34.04`	`Wrath`	`You have to set up the second bar manually`
`09:34.10`	`Wrath`	`Which wasn't obvious from the template`
`09:35.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, yeah. UnitStatusPlayerName is a UnitStatus, rather than a UnitStatusBar class.`
`09:36.56`	`Wrath`	`Nononono`
`09:37.05`	`Wrath`	`Nevermind lol`
`09:37.10`	`Wrath`	`I was talking about two different things`
`09:37.16`	`Wrath`	`ShieldedHealthBar and UnitStatusPlayerName`
`09:37.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`09:37.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Seems like you'd want to contain them in a UnitStatusFrame, make them subframes of it.`
`09:38.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Or at least that seems most intuitive to me.`
`09:38.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Haven't had time yet to put to use all the information I recovered concerning layouts.`
`09:39.10`	`Vindicator`	`jademus: where did you find your frame element list your posted?`
`09:40.59`	`Vindicator`	`or did you create it on your own?`
`09:41.06`	`JademusSreg`	`I derived it from several sources. I extracted various reference from both editor and client memory, and also distilled all the UI data to its types and elements. A few were guesses to fill in the logical gaps (like the generic Control frame type, which wasn't listed anywhere).`
`09:42.10`	`JademusSreg`	`There might still be gaps in the information, though.`
`09:42.32`	`Vindicator`	`what you've done already is great, and if you don't have time for something like this, np and i might try it myself sometime if i can find the time, but what would take the element list`
`09:42.44`	`Vindicator`	`to the next level would be to define what each one is capable of doing/does`
`09:43.34`	`JademusSreg`	`As for determining frame element support, I simply pasted every possible element into every possible frame type, then organized the results by class with similar types implementing or extending the basic class.`
`09:43.50`	`JademusSreg`	`How do you mean? Like documenting the frame types and elements?`
`09:44.27`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tivec (~Tivec@ti0018a380-2441.bb.online.no)`
`09:45.19`	`Vindicator`	`like, <AcceptsMouse val="bool"/> allows you to determine whether a frame can be interacted with via the mouse. For example, if a button didn't accept a mouse, it wouldn't be clickable.`
`09:45.43`	`JademusSreg`	`I think that will come in time; I'm fine with data mining and automating this kind of shit, but documenting the purpose of every type and element is waaay beyond my time budget.`
`09:46.29`	`JademusSreg`	`So anyone interested in doing so should, and that will help fill out the wiki, too, I imagine.`
`09:47.02`	`Vindicator`	`do you know what CaretColor is?`
`09:47.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`09:47.26`	`JademusSreg`	`It's how the caret of the text entry field is colored.`
`09:47.38`	`Vindicator`	`whats a caret? the blinking vertical line?`
`09:47.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`09:47.59`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`09:48.04`	`Vindicator`	`nice kk`
`09:57.48`	`JademusSreg`	`The other reason I organized the frame types by class is to make obvious what kind of frames dialog controls can make use of, given that, say, a dialog control of type Panel is just a frame, so it should be able to template from or hook up to frame types of that class, those which implement or extend it.`
`10:02.46`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: do you know a way to "attach" a dialog frame to a map coord or a unit instead of player camera?`
`10:05.06`	`Vindicator`	`if you can attach a dialog frame to a trigger dialog, then attach the trigger dialog to a unit with the similarly named action`
`10:06.22`	`Zolden`	`what is the difference between dialog and trigger dialog?`
`10:06.59`	`Vindicator`	`nothing, but a dialog frame i'm referring to is what you'd have from something in the UI editor`
`10:07.08`	`Vindicator`	`trigger dialogs don't usually use the word "Frame"`
`10:07.15`	`Zolden`	`no, i mean normal dialog`
`10:07.20`	`Vindicator`	`oh that's easier then`
`10:07.25`	`Vindicator`	`just attach dialog to unit :)`
`10:07.38`	`Zolden`	`ok, that's interesting`
`10:08.40`	`Zolden`	`the only question now: will one cutscene's camera translate its picture to rtt channel within another cutscene`
`10:08.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`10:08.57`	`Vindicator`	`that i don't know`
`10:09.15`	`Zolden`	`if yes, then PiP is possible`
`10:09.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, easier to attach to a unit if you want a frame in-world.`
`10:09.53`	`Zolden`	`because cutscene camera watch from cutscene frame into the game world`
`10:10.44`	`Vindicator`	`ok jademus, i'm going to try to start a frame element wiki page, but just to make sure i'm using basic terminology correctly (i'm good at trigger dialogs, not so much with UI XML stuff) can you define in ur own understanding of it`
`10:10.55`	`Vindicator`	`what "Frame" and "Panel" means`
`10:10.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, cross-context communication is apparently possible, in that a unit actor in the game world scene context can send messages to the portrait model in the portrait scene context, but I'm not aware of to what extent cross context communication is possible.`
`10:11.59`	`Zolden`	`ok, i'll test it, and I believe cutscenes share rtt channels`
`10:12.03`	`JademusSreg`	`A Panel is a dialog control (aka Dialog Item for GUI users) type. A frame is the root frame type class and the most basic; it's simply a container.`
`10:12.39`	`Vindicator`	`so how do i think of a frame in a way that differs from what a dialog is?`
`10:12.45`	`JademusSreg`	`A dialog control of type panel is a Frame. Check the trigger control templates in the layout files to see.`
`10:14.38`	`JademusSreg`	`A Dialog's frame layout is more complex than a simple container. It's a frame with some labels and an image. I prefer to avoid using Dialogs, instead opting for a single global fullscreen dialog with no background, and using panels as containers.`
`10:14.47`	`Vindicator`	`ok, so a panel is a type of a frame, similar to how a button is a type of a dialog item?`
`10:15.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Mainly because all dialog control properties are player-instanced, and only visibility property for dialog is player-instanced, so dialog controls always offer more control for the user.`
`10:15.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Almost correct.`
`10:16.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Both are types of frames, so the comparison is not apt.`
`10:16.37`	`JademusSreg`	`A Panel is dialog control terminology. Button is a term that is applicable in both dialog control and layout terms.`
`10:17.18`	`Vindicator`	`ok well am i correct in what i'm saying if we ignore that buttons exist in layout terms`
`10:19.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Maybe? Not certain what the context is here. Perhaps I'll understand better once I see what you intend. Also, will you be contributing to the new mapster wiki? I hear it could use some help.`
`10:20.03`	`Vindicator`	`ya`
`10:20.22`	`Vindicator`	`i redid the tutorials page a week or so ago`
`10:21.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah, tutorials are dreadful. =D`
`10:21.56`	`Vindicator`	`i mentioned to zelda, the templates for the wiki are necessary and great, but people need to not think of them as set in stone 100%, like the new tutorial page originally had "Definition - A tutorial is a guide meant to teach you something." or some nonsense like that and i'm like .. oh boy here we go again`
`10:23.11`	`Vindicator`	`the old wiki had templates that had a place to put a website link or something, and instead of removing that section when they didn't have a link available, they'd just say " i don't have a link" or something`
`10:24.00`	`Vindicator`	`it just ends up wasint ppls time vs people realizing that no one's going to chew them out if they remove sections of the template that aren't necessary for the topic at hand`
`10:24.09`	`Vindicator`	`*wasting`
`10:30.16`	`JademusSreg`	`prefers helping people here and making demo maps to hand-holding walkthrough tutorials.`
`10:31.54`	`JademusSreg`	`I need to release my demo for WASD, since people continue to take completely ridiculous approaches.`
`10:31.55`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`10:31.57`	`qweqa`	`Jade never used your maps, does it unique map for specific need or it contains latest request added?`
`10:35.26`	`Vindicator`	`Ok, for whatever reason I'm still not confident that my understanding of the terminology is accurate, so how about this. Tell me if this sounds right: The desaturated element defines whether a frame should be black and white or it's original colors.`
`10:35.39`	`Vindicator`	`is that using the word "frame" in the correct context?`
`10:36.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, that is correct.`
`10:37.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Vindicator_ (Vindicator@cpe-76-183-15-117.tx.res.rr.com)`
`10:38.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Since all the stuff layouts are frames ( <Frame type="Frame" name="SomeShittyExample"> ) frame can be used generically to refer to any sort of frame.`
`10:38.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Reserve capitalized Frame to refer specifically to the frame type Frame, and use frame for generic reference to frames.`
`10:39.14`	`Vindicator_`	`omg... lol. so what's a frame type Frame then?`
`10:39.36`	`Vindicator_`	`maybe this is the cause for my confusion`
`10:39.36`	`JademusSreg`	`qweq, I make demos to demonstrate shit I'd rather not waste time explaining.`
`10:41.00`	`JademusSreg`	`The frame type Frame is the root class for frames, it's the most basic type. In my example up there, type="Frame" is the attribute that is refered to as frame type Frame.`
`10:41.30`	`JademusSreg`	`So Frame refers to that specific frame type. And frame is a way of saying any frame.`
`10:42.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Because, as you can see from the layouts, the content is of the XML element Frame.`
`10:44.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Like if I said image, I'm probably refering generically to any image. If I say Image, I'm probably saying something about the Image frame type.`
`10:44.25`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`10:46.09`	`JademusSreg`	`*bbl`
`10:46.57`	`Vindicator_`	`kk thanks for explaining stuff. I still have a lightbulb that needs to go off to completely get it but you've helped.`
`11:01.14`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-188-101-189-227.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`11:13.23`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-245-51.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`11:25.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Eagles (~Eagles@c83-249-233-56.bredband.comhem.se)`
`11:46.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`11:50.27`	`Zolden`	`why back, go forward`
`11:51.07`	`JademusSreg`	`I am, along my timeline.`
`11:54.57`	`Zolden`	`time isn't a line, only primive human consciousness reduces it to a spatial dimention to understand`
`11:56.02`	`JademusSreg`	`It's a common expression, not intended to elucidate cosmological significance.`
`11:56.40`	`Zolden`	`that's better`
`12:02.07`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Skizot (~skizot@c-67-162-169-33.hsd1.fl.comcast.net)`
`12:14.34`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blub\w (~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061)`
`12:42.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.252.23.pool.invitel.hu)`
`12:45.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (Raziel@2a01:388:201:4190:816a:4ccb:8203:93c)`
`12:47.12`	`Ahli`	`http://i.snag.gy/oCINp.jpg =/`
`12:48.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`12:49.18`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RazielZ (Raziel@2a01:388:201:4190:b866:d04:e1ec:fd32)`
`12:51.56`	`Ahli`	`jade, find out how to make working player colored images with player frames or other frames... I fail doing that.`
`12:52.37`	`ThunderLord`	`does anyone think that creating WC3 tilesets would be a worthwhile endevor? im thinking about going back and SC2-ifiying some WC3 tiles, cuz i love the bright vibrant colors of WC3...`
`12:55.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, doesn't sound very interesting. I assume the player color is inherited from a supporting frame or otherwise is frame type dependent.`
`12:56.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tomura (~Tomura@p5B030018.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`12:56.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Thund, skeptical.`
`12:57.40`	`ThunderLord`	`yeah, idk how good it would look in SC2...`
`12:58.21`	`ThunderLord`	`but still... i was playing it the other day, and remembered how amazing the terrain looked... it was tile based though, and i wouldnt be sure how to do blending like they did in WC3`
`12:58.27`	`JademusSreg`	`The only mildly interesting texture would be blight, and you couldn't use the wc3 texture anyway, as it's low res and sucky.`
`12:58.48`	`ThunderLord`	`i would have to high-rez-ifiy it`
`12:58.55`	`Ahli`	`yeah, it should work like that, but it just doesn't work or I am doing something wrong`
`13:00.21`	`Ahli`	`also <BaseTexture val="texture.dds"/> is a property that isn't listed anywhere. It's a property that only seems to be used when the frame is constructed in a PlayerRaceFrame`
`13:00.49`	`Ahli`	`that's how I did the worker icons as BLizzard's tutorial shows`
`13:01.03`	`ThunderLord`	`like the marble type of terrain`
`13:01.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, first test player color inheritence by creating a plain image inside the frame that is getting the player color. Whether it inherits the tint will tell us more about how it works.`
`13:02.08`	`Ahli`	`color is inherited when I alter the "PlayerId" property ingame`
`13:02.10`	`*** join/#sc2mapster RipperRooX (~RipperRoo@p579030CF.dip0.t-ipconnect.de)`
`13:02.30`	`Ahli`	`but it doesn't seem to use its Left/Right property`
`13:02.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Do subframes of the player-tinted frame inherit the color though?`
`13:02.56`	`JademusSreg`	`That tells us something about how the tinting is done.`
`13:03.34`	`Ahli`	`tenarsis told me yesterday that he thinks that playerFrames tint all frames containing it...`
`13:03.53`	`Ahli`	`images have a property to ignore parent color or something like that, so I assume it will be inherited`
`13:04.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Just need to confirm with testing. Need to know -how- the tinting is done with certainty, rather than assume.`
`13:04.25`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`13:05.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Princess_Lun (~IceChat77@user-105n0q0.cable.mindspring.com)`
`13:09.17`	`*** join/#sc2mapster IntProvider (4e3c1a28@gateway/web/freenode/ip.78.60.26.40)`
`13:09.49`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Dustin\|Work (~Dustin@64.39.213.168)`
`13:11.49`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Morning gentlemen.`
`13:13.37`	`IntProvider`	`hey`
`13:13.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Hi thar.`
`13:14.03`	`Ahli`	`it works for playerRaceImages... but that is requiring entries with race ending... also, I just noticed that the image within in used <TextureType val="Normal"/> instead of <BorderType val="Normal"/>`
`13:17.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Telshin (~textual@76.164.170.2)`
`13:20.44`	`JademusSreg`	`So it's a special kind of tinting?`
`13:21.11`	`Ahli`	`ok, I just found out that playerRaceImage only uses images called RaceImage within it`
`13:22.19`	`*** join/#sc2mapster gooose (5489e018@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.137.224.24)`
`13:22.21`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`13:24.10`	`Ahli`	`if I use "PlayerImage", the frame isn't even created... it's not listed ingame`
`13:25.37`	`Ahli`	`so, I could do everything I want, when I use playerRaceImages, but I need 3-4 entries in assets.txt for that :D`
`13:26.56`	`Ahli`	`what did I do that it is working now ?!`
`13:27.35`	`Ahli`	`oh, I think I know what it is`
`13:31.55`	`Ahli`	`but it suffers from a similar problem as the frames in my screenshot`
`13:34.55`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`13:35.05`	`Ahli`	`http://pastebin.com/6n0MjT1C`
`13:50.10`	`Ahli`	`http://snag.gy/0iTyB.jpg`
`14:02.30`	`motive\|`	`lol`
`14:02.42`	`motive\|`	`jademus, remember how we've established I don't know shit about cars?`
`14:12.48`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blub\w (~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061)`
`14:31.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster gooose (5489e018@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.137.224.24)`
`14:32.13`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`14:32.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`14:33.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Motive, yes. That's totally a thing I remember / would check the logs to confirm.`
`14:36.24`	`motive\|`	`I put antifreeze in my windshield fluid`
`14:36.31`	`motive\|`	`It's costing me at least $125 now, possibly more`
`14:36.37`	`JademusSreg`	`I did that once.`
`14:36.42`	`motive\|`	`TIL don't do drugs and car work at the same time`
`14:37.38`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Depends on the drug :P`
`14:38.10`	`JademusSreg`	`I said fuck it and didn't get much frost on my windshield that winter.`
`14:39.08`	`motive\|`	`Haha`
`14:39.23`	`motive\|`	`I drove p to Rochester and exhausted my wiper fluid and decided it'd be a good idea to replenish it, and then decided to do it at a party`
`14:39.38`	`motive\|`	`I was pleased with the result until I tried to use the thing.`
`14:39.41`	`Dustin\|Work`	`hahah`
`14:39.43`	`motive\|`	`Boom. Oily fluid errywhere.`
`14:40.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Sexy.`
`14:42.48`	`motive\|`	`my poor baby was so dirty for so long`
`14:42.55`	`motive\|`	`it's black and it turned green due to ridiculous amounts of pollen`
`14:43.01`	`motive\|`	`then it had that nasty antifreeze all over :\|`
`14:43.06`	`motive\|`	`just a bad combination`
`14:43.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Tis the season/.`
`14:44.16`	`JademusSreg`	`strongly considers putting all the natives into struct funcrefs.`
`14:44.33`	`motive\|`	`do it`
`14:44.40`	`motive\|`	`and open source it`
`14:45.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. I treat all my code as semi-open source. I just don't bother to put it up on git. D=`
`14:47.00`	`motive\|`	`Haha, you should.`
`14:47.04`	`Vindicator_`	`anyone know how to tile an image in photoshop`
`14:47.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Though struct fields can't be made constant.`
`14:47.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Vin, yes.`
`14:47.43`	`motive\|`	`JademusSreg: Just do funcref blah; // @readonly`
`14:47.49`	`motive\|`	`or something`
`14:47.52`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Set it up as a new Pattern and use the pattern fill tool`
`14:48.05`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Is 1 way of achieving tiled images in ps`
`14:49.24`	`Vindicator_`	`hmm i don't know if that's what i wanna do, i just wanna see an image i'm editing tiled so i can see the edges next to each other to make sure what i'm doing will line up with the other side`
`14:50.09`	`Vindicator_`	`maybe technically what i mean is i want my canvas tiled`
`14:50.16`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Just copy paste some layers`
`14:50.33`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Im not sure if there's a canvas tile option`
`14:50.36`	`Dustin\|Work`	`That'd be cool though`
`14:51.31`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kueken (~Kueken@brsg-d9befe1f.pool.mediaWays.net)`
`14:51.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Vin, the approach I prefer is taking the base, extend canvas x, copypaste, flatten, get the boundry, content aware fill + precise placement of pieces, select new half, trim selection to modified area, paste flatten on other side, select the base, layer as cut, delete the old, adjust canvas x back and extend canvas y, repeat.`
`14:51.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Basically.`
`14:51.41`	`Kueken`	`Shark.`
`14:52.21`	`Kueken`	`uh, Jade, I like it when you talk dirty :-*`
`14:52.31`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`14:53.25`	`JademusSreg`	`Motive, provided I can enrich the functionality, it would be worth it.`
`14:56.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Simulating instance methods would be desirable.`
`14:59.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Recently wrote an Operator script to provide a more configurable means of registering controls via player input.`
`15:01.20`	`JademusSreg`	`My previous Controller script was unsatisfactory.`
`15:06.58`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kueken (~Kueken@brsg-d9baf5c5.pool.mediaWays.net)`
`15:08.42`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:10.20`	`Vindicator_`	`someone responded on mapster a few min ago saying u need to use the throw mover`
`15:10.33`	`JademusSreg`	`That has been said repeatedly, haha.`
`15:10.45`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:10.51`	`JademusSreg`	`gooo has toruble with movers.`
`15:10.52`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:10.56`	`JademusSreg`	`gooo, I do.`
`15:11.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Thus, can be done.`
`15:11.05`	`Dustin\|Work`	`It's just a point`
`15:11.08`	`Vindicator_`	`throw mover just means that if the target moves it doesn't follow it`
`15:12.39`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:12.56`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Kueken (~Kueken@brsg-d9bee0cf.pool.mediaWays.net)`
`15:14.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Could copy my demo's example. Of course, you want it to ignore terrain, as well.`
`15:15.02`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:15.24`	`JademusSreg`	`As opposed to?`
`15:15.34`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:15.54`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:16.03`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw.`
`15:16.07`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:16.52`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:17.13`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:17.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`15:21.14`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll just go ahead and debunk that with a bit of data.`
`15:21.33`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:22.02`	`Kueken`	`how dare you assume Jade didn't understand the code before?`
`15:22.17`	`JademusSreg`	`I didn't bother to look at it in the first place. =D`
`15:22.32`	`Kueken`	`and STILL he understoon!`
`15:22.34`	`Kueken`	`*d`
`15:22.46`	`Kueken`	`damn, I messed that up, didn't I?`
`15:22.48`	`Kueken`	`:(`
`15:24.13`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:25.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Thar we go. Simple.`
`15:25.40`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll upload it for ya.`
`15:26.48`	`JademusSreg`	`https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/JademusDemo.SC2Map`
`15:27.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Added some spread to the warp bolt. Used a guided throw missile mover; initial guided motion phase to orient it toward the target, throw mover phase to send it along.`
`15:27.52`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`15:28.10`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:29.25`	`Kueken`	`3 seconds from what I can tell`
`15:29.28`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:31.01`	`motive\|\|`	`woo`
`15:31.07`	`motive\|\|`	`I didnt break anything`
`15:31.13`	`motive\|\|`	`my shitty mistake only cost me $125`
`15:31.51`	`Kueken`	`gz`
`15:31.53`	`Kueken`	`I guess`
`15:32.39`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:34.14`	`Kueken`	`hm`
`15:34.24`	`Kueken`	`when I tried the same thing, it didn't work`
`15:34.31`	`Kueken`	`must have messed somethin gup`
`15:37.56`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:38.27`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:38.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Launch Missile effect overrides it.`
`15:39.24`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:39.42`	`Kueken`	`Jade doesn't use one in the launch`
`15:39.49`	`Kueken`	`preference, I guess`
`15:39.56`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:40.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Warp Bolt.`
`15:40.05`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:40.20`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:40.35`	`Kueken`	`I see most people preferring the mover on the actual unit`
`15:40.52`	`Kueken`	`I like it on the launch effect`
`15:40.54`	`Kueken`	`but w/e`
`15:41.14`	`Kueken`	`doesn't hurt to still have a mover on the unit`
`15:41.26`	`Kueken`	`you can also use it as a kind of default`
`15:42.10`	`JademusSreg`	`The only thing I don't like about using a guided motion driver first is that it necessitates a site if you want it to ignore the height of the terrain; in my demo, the missiles will fly steadily down into the space below since I neglected to add one.`
`15:42.22`	`Kueken`	`I wonder, if there is potentially a performance impact for using dynamic movers from the launch effect over static ones from the unit`
`15:42.56`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`15:43.17`	`JademusSreg`	`I was merely demonstrating spread, gooo.`
`15:55.50`	`Kueken`	`interesting`
`16:01.25`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:02.15`	`JademusSreg`	`The downside of using a guidance phase. Need to find a way to mitigate it.`
`16:02.42`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:04.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha, now my missile launch is comically overcompensating, often going up into the air. =D`
`16:05.09`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:05.30`	`G0A`	`finally I made my first melee map: http://www.sc2mapster.com/thumbman/images/55/960/599x600/Terrain_004.jpg.-m1.png`
`16:07.26`	`Zolden`	`guys, i've got a strange error trying to attach a dialog to a unit`
`16:07.42`	`Kueken`	`you can actually add a site operation which sets the height to the height of a specific point`
`16:08.09`	`Kueken`	`I made a SOpCasterZ, which seems to work`
`16:09.16`	`Zolden`	`waht does this mean? http://i.snag.gy/fSJeb.jpg`
`16:09.43`	`Zolden`	`i only tried this this: Dialog - Move (Last created dialog) to (0, 0) relative to Weapon of Marine [24.61, 53.34]`
`16:11.20`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:14.22`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: are you with us?`
`16:14.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, but busy. brb`
`16:14.36`	`Zolden`	`ok`
`16:16.08`	`Vindicator_`	`zolden, it means it didn't find the attachment point u were trying to attach the dialog to i think`
`16:16.10`	`Kueken`	`gooose: create a new actor, type Site Operation (Effect)`
`16:16.14`	`Vindicator_`	`do it to the origin instead`
`16:16.24`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:16.41`	`Kueken`	`no idea if it works, try it :D`
`16:16.43`	`Zolden`	`Vindicator_: marine had weapon attachment`
`16:16.46`	`Zolden`	`has`
`16:16.50`	`Vindicator_`	`i know`
`16:16.52`	`Vindicator_`	`just try origin`
`16:16.54`	`Kueken`	`Zolden: maybe you need to use weapon 0`
`16:16.59`	`Vindicator_`	`it's weird but it might work when weapon didn't`
`16:17.12`	`Kueken`	`did you use an attachment method or direct?`
`16:17.22`	`Kueken`	`in triggers, direct usually works better`
`16:17.24`	`Vindicator_`	`kueken, i think he's having the same issue i had the other day with attachments and he'd have to change the host thing to use the weapon attachement`
`16:17.51`	`Kueken`	`gooose: did it?`
`16:18.16`	`Kueken`	`for the new site operation, change Target: Location to Caster Point`
`16:18.21`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:18.23`	`Zolden`	`Vindicator_: oh, you right, i forgot that i changed marine's model`
`16:18.30`	`Kueken`	`did you create it?`
`16:18.38`	`Zolden`	`why am i so stupid sometimes ;/`
`16:18.48`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:18.57`	`Kueken`	`also set Actor: Height Only to Enabled`
`16:19.09`	`gooose`	`k`
`16:19.27`	`Kueken`	`now select your Action actor for the missile`
`16:19.50`	`Kueken`	`and add your new site operation to Combat: Impact Point Site Operations +`
`16:20.05`	`Kueken`	`impact POINT site`
`16:20.33`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:20.47`	`Kueken`	`point site operations`
`16:21.02`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:21.04`	`Kueken`	`just pointing out to not take the site operations without the point ^^`
`16:21.06`	`Kueken`	`no`
`16:21.11`	`Kueken`	`add your new one below`
`16:21.27`	`Zolden`	`Vindicator_: no, didn't work on a model with existing attachments ;/`
`16:21.36`	`gooose`	`done, anything elseß`
`16:21.36`	`Zolden`	`strange error, i don't udnerstand what is it about`
`16:21.56`	`Kueken`	`Zolden: tried to change from attachment method to direct yet?`
`16:22.01`	`Kueken`	`gooose: that should be it`
`16:22.26`	`Kueken`	`then use a guidance or guidance->throw mover`
`16:23.02`	`Zolden`	`Kueken: it's trigger, it only let to choose a list of attachments or methods, dunno, none works`
`16:23.36`	`Kueken`	`Zolden: you should have 2 lists, methods and direct`
`16:24.09`	`Kueken`	`with methods being selected as default`
`16:24.35`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:24.47`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:25.00`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:25.10`	`Zolden`	`Kueken: I have this http://i.snag.gy/LYFfd.jpg`
`16:25.26`	`Kueken`	`oh, nvm then :D`
`16:25.33`	`Kueken`	`whats the function called again?`
`16:26.15`	`Zolden`	`DialogSetPositionRelativeToUnit(DialogLastCreated(), UnitFromId(10), "Ref_Weapon", 0, 0);`
`16:27.03`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:27.03`	`Zolden`	`or "attach dialog to unit" in gui`
`16:27.29`	`Kueken`	`gooose: depends on your setup, but if its the action, it should work by now, so probably the model`
`16:28.02`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:28.43`	`Zolden`	`fuck yea, worked with "target"`
`16:29.04`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:29.27`	`Zolden`	`so, for now we can have a unit AND a screen attached with what unit see from his eyes :))`
`16:31.16`	`Kueken`	`:D`
`16:31.20`	`Kueken`	`btw`
`16:31.30`	`Kueken`	`typing "Weapon" in custom script works too`
`16:31.50`	`Kueken`	`but "Ref_Weapon" which the Gui uses does not`
`16:32.04`	`Zolden`	`ha`
`16:32.13`	`Zolden`	`then it's a bug and should be reported`
`16:32.24`	`Kueken`	`not sure about that`
`16:32.41`	`Kueken`	`the ref thing is probably set up at the model`
`16:32.46`	`Kueken`	`seen that before`
`16:32.47`	`Zolden`	`it seems like this`
`16:33.14`	`Zolden`	`well, it throws an error and something should be fixed`
`16:33.39`	`Kueken`	`Blizz-Tenarsis: got it? :D`
`16:33.48`	`Zolden`	`with target it has Ref_Target in the script btw`
`16:34.00`	`Kueken`	`yep, seen that`
`16:34.21`	`Zolden`	`so, there is a chance that attachment name is weapon within the model instead of ref_weapon`
`16:34.22`	`Kueken`	`thats why I think, target has been set up to work somehow, while weapon has not`
`16:34.23`	`Zolden`	`\my guess`
`16:34.41`	`Zolden`	`i think tenarsis isn't at work, it's only 8.30 am in cali`
`16:35.12`	`Kueken`	`so gooose everything works now?`
`16:35.34`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:35.46`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:39.38`	`G0A`	`lol http://kotaku.com/players-claim-diablo-iiis-economy-is-in-meltdown-494689701`
`16:39.43`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:40.07`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:40.10`	`Kueken`	`thats the default`
`16:40.16`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blub\w (~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061)`
`16:40.28`	`Kueken`	`the other entrys will only be used if they exist`
`16:40.29`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:40.55`	`Kueken`	`it only makes sense to set the other ones, if they should be different from the default`
`16:41.42`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:42.13`	`Kueken`	`I never used the other ones so far`
`16:42.55`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:42.57`	`Ahli`	`I hate it when the UI editor is lying to me`
`16:43.55`	`Ahli`	`shows texts that it didn't save... always when saving fails ()clicked too early or no permission from OS to write to file. -.-`
`16:44.22`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:47.52`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:50.19`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:51.08`	`Ahli`	`Anyone knows all entries that are possible for "ObserverVariables.txt" in the interfaces?`
`16:52.30`	`Ahli`	`well "SimpleCommandCard=true" seems to be correct...`
`16:54.43`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:54.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Parthon (~cheeeese@godsta.arach.net.au)`
`16:55.08`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:55.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Thenarden (~Miranda@HSI-KBW-078-043-227-063.hsi4.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de)`
`16:55.50`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`16:56.00`	`gooose`	`strange :P`
`16:56.05`	`Ahli`	`"I just threw a few entries in this file for variables that seem to make a better user experience when observing games." But tutorial doesn't list the content as an example... -.-`
`16:56.29`	`Ahli`	`well, must be what trigger editor can enforce`
`17:06.19`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:06.43`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`17:36.50`	`*** join/#sc2mapster jokoob (~jokoob@pai34-7-83-152-181-214.fbx.proxad.net)`
`17:36.52`	`jokoob`	`hello`
`17:37.09`	`jokoob`	`I created a simple map but my hotkeys are overriden any idea why ?`
`17:39.04`	`Ahli`	`do you use GRID hotkeys?`
`17:39.42`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-245-51.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`17:40.22`	`jokoob`	`ahli I use custom hotkeys`
`17:40.43`	`jokoob`	`can't I make my map use mine instead ? or it complicated ?`
`17:41.47`	`Ahli`	`map sets default hotkeys, player's settings override those. (F10 options has a hotkeys section)`
`17:43.25`	`jokoob`	`I know f10 has hotkey section`
`17:43.28`	`Ahli`	`so, if you use GRID hotkey layout, you always override the command card hotkeys. If you use default/standard, I assume that you override the hotkeys for default buttons. A button defines his hotkey group or something`
`17:45.09`	`jokoob`	`I use a custom layout`
`17:45.43`	`jokoob`	`so no to whatever you're talking about`
`17:46.13`	`jokoob`	`I want to make a melee map`
`17:46.33`	`jokoob`	`So I want the default gameplay and tweak it a little`
`17:46.56`	`jokoob`	`but I want players to use their hotkeys`
`17:47.46`	`JademusSreg`	`They will.`
`17:48.13`	`jokoob`	`the melee map I made does not`
`17:49.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Tested it on bnet?`
`17:49.32`	`jokoob`	`only tested on local`
`17:49.41`	`jokoob`	`does it make a difference`
`17:49.52`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Blub\w (~wry@unaffiliated/blubw/x-6625061)`
`17:50.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Probably. Your local test may not be accessing your profile data.`
`17:52.27`	`jokoob`	`Oh right works now`
`17:52.47`	`jokoob`	`thanks`
`17:52.54`	`JademusSreg`	`No problem.`
`17:53.05`	`jokoob`	`I want supply depot to gather resources`
`17:53.11`	`jokoob`	`instead of command center`
`17:53.21`	`JademusSreg`	`You mean be a return point for resources.`
`17:53.25`	`jokoob`	`do I need to look in the data module for that ?`
`17:53.29`	`jokoob`	`yes`
`17:53.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`17:54.00`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll point you in the right direction.`
`17:54.43`	`jokoob`	`So I can tweak the default multiplayer behavior if I want`
`17:55.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Data module > Unit data tab > Supply Depot > (here I assume you use Table View, Ctrl 1 or menu bar View -> Table View) Behavior: Resource Drop Off+`
`17:55.53`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Egod (b8919fcc@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.145.159.204)`
`17:56.17`	`jokoob`	`and hum`
`17:56.26`	`Egod`	`Why my Battle.net friend button is hiding in my map ?`
`17:56.32`	`Egod`	`how its called`
`17:56.38`	`Egod`	`named`
`17:56.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Ego, are you hiding a bunch of UI frames at once?`
`17:56.53`	`Egod`	`yes`
`17:57.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Iterating from first to last I expect?`
`17:57.14`	`Egod`	`hm`
`17:57.27`	`Egod`	`Command, Console, Control, Info, Minimap, Menu`
`17:57.29`	`jokoob`	`I would also need to make one zerg building to not take damage while not on creep`
`17:57.38`	`jokoob`	`I'll look for this`
`17:58.16`	`Egod`	`Supply Frame, Hero Panel, Ressource, Character, Control Idle, Tech, Team, Room, Mercenary, Credits, Menu Bar and Hero`
`17:58.21`	`Egod`	`it is Room panel?`
`17:58.26`	`Egod`	`will try`
`17:58.41`	`Zolden`	`Egod: is that diablo game you've been working on ready?`
`17:59.07`	`JademusSreg`	`BattleUI I would expect.`
`17:59.14`	`Egod`	`im doing lag test online and polishing but the first part is done yes`
`17:59.47`	`JademusSreg`	`That, or Console.`
`18:00.07`	`Egod`	`i dont hide the battle.net button is strange`
`18:00.14`	`Egod`	`its strange from lastest patch`
`18:00.26`	`JademusSreg`	`jok, Behavior: Behaviors+ Zerg - Building Not On Creep`
`18:00.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Ego, if they changed the frame layouts a bit, that might account for it.`
`18:01.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Would need to check the layout GameUI to be certain.`
`18:01.31`	`Egod`	`weird, i keep looking`
`18:01.43`	`Egod`	`Zolden here is my progress http://thecurseoftristram.com/forums/index.php?/forum/16-dailyblogdev-journal/`
`18:01.54`	`Egod`	`i just finisshed ladder board`
`18:02.46`	`Zolden`	`would be cool to finally try it :)`
`18:03.56`	`Ahli`	`friend button is in the menu bar panel thing in the bottom right`
`18:04.22`	`Egod`	`menu bar panel?`
`18:04.23`	`Egod`	`hm`
`18:04.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Ego, that leaderboard is not acceptable. The in-game view is nice, though.`
`18:04.44`	`Egod`	`why not acceptable? lol`
`18:05.26`	`JademusSreg`	`It is a crime against aesthetics.`
`18:05.36`	`Ahli`	`are u sure that you won't receive more than 4 digits of xp?`
`18:05.59`	`Zolden`	`Egod: I'd rather agree with Jade`
`18:06.04`	`JademusSreg`	`I would sooner make a texture for you than let you use that.`
`18:06.18`	`Egod`	`what? lol`
`18:06.36`	`JademusSreg`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/images/55/919/LeaderbFInal.jpg`
`18:07.02`	`Egod`	`ahh`
`18:07.09`	`Egod`	`bah, you can hide it when playing`
`18:07.14`	`Egod`	`if you dont like :)`
`18:07.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Hell, I'd sooner script the whole thing then allow you to do such an awful thing to your pretty map.`
`18:07.58`	`Egod`	`meh`
`18:08.50`	`JademusSreg`	`It would be like going over to a sexy person's place, and finding a massive unflushed loaf of excrement in the toilet.`
`18:10.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster gooose (5489e018@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.137.224.24)`
`18:10.23`	`Zolden`	`Blizz-Tenarsis: hey, are you here yet?`
`18:10.24`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:10.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Goo, Race data.`
`18:11.01`	`Zolden`	`at what local time blizz employees start working?`
`18:11.16`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:11.51`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Net_Creator (~Net_Creat@unaffiliated/reactorex)`
`18:12.11`	`JademusSreg`	`They'd be on the clock now, Zol.`
`18:12.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Goo, I usually just hide the frame.`
`18:13.02`	`Egod`	`youre right ahli`
`18:13.09`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:13.23`	`Egod`	`its Menu Bar`
`18:13.27`	`Egod`	`for the friend button`
`18:14.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Yar. Apparently it hosts several frames, including the Social button stuff.`
`18:14.16`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: we can attach a dialog to a unit. But can we attach a cutscene to a unit, how do you think?`
`18:14.17`	`Egod`	`yep`
`18:14.58`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:15.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Zol, yes.`
`18:15.05`	`Egod`	`Hey ahli what is the thing that eat the most fps ?`
`18:15.37`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: how? can it be done to a cutscene that is within a frame (not the one we create within the game world)`
`18:16.12`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: right now cutscene is attached to the camera, even if we move the dialog it is translated in`
`18:17.08`	`Ahli`	`graphic settings, units on map, pathfinding, actors (includes images in fog, that made my map laggy like hell)`
`18:17.14`	`Zolden`	`Egod: usually it either amount of units, or undestroyed actors, or some periodic triggers, or some chained data`
`18:17.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, you make a custom unit status frame template, make it host a cutscene frame, and to control it you make a dialog control hookup to it. Not quite sure how to reference it, though.`
`18:17.29`	`Egod`	`interesting`
`18:17.32`	`Egod`	`Fog?`
`18:17.44`	`Egod`	`what about, sunray? or Rain?
`18:17.54`	`Ahli`	`fog hides actors, fog is good... sunrays/rain are actors`
`18:18.10`	`Egod`	`oh`
`18:18.43`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll look at the API.`
`18:18.46`	`Ahli`	`how many units do you have on the map?`
`18:18.51`	`Egod`	`hm`
`18:18.54`	`Egod`	`by map not a lot`
`18:19.02`	`Egod`	`around 100`
`18:19.14`	`Egod`	`100 monster by PART maybe`
`18:19.24`	`Ahli`	`including structures`
`18:19.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Asset loading, also.`
`18:19.27`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: R u sure it will move the whole cutscene? For example, right now I have a [dialog with a cutscene played in its frame] attached to a unit, but unit only move the frame, not the cutscene`
`18:19.41`	`Egod`	`no building, only Monster`
`18:19.50`	`JademusSreg`	`If you don't preload the assets, creating the shit that uses them would also stall.`
`18:19.50`	`Ahli`	`asset loading can be done once at the start of the map... after that, it will run fine`
`18:20.09`	`Egod`	`what about doodas`
`18:20.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Zol, that's interesting. Send me the demo map?`
`18:20.37`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: you mean create a cutscene runtime?`
`18:20.41`	`Ahli`	`so, units will be excellent in your map... your terrain is made of a ton of actors or how is it done? or is it mostly 1 actor and a few actors as decoration (doodads)?`
`18:20.50`	`Ahli`	`doodads = actors`
`18:20.56`	`Egod`	`oh`
`18:20.59`	`Egod`	`hm`
`18:21.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Depends on your implementation. brb`
`18:21.28`	`Ahli`	`yeah... well... 99% of the doodads are actors only`
`18:21.53`	`Ahli`	`everything unselectable and undestructible usually is only an actor`
`18:22.06`	`Egod`	`i got a tons and tons of tree and rock`
`18:22.20`	`Egod`	`what i tested online is the map size`
`18:22.41`	`Egod`	`i reduce my map bounds size to large and lag is less`
`18:22.43`	`Egod`	`by a LOT`
`18:23.02`	`Ahli`	`map size == terrain that needs to be rendered. terrain uses cells which use or maybe actually is comparable to actors, too, afaIk...`
`18:23.15`	`Ahli`	`really? lol interesting`
`18:23.19`	`Egod`	`oh yes`
`18:23.21`	`Egod`	`like`
`18:23.22`	`Ahli`	`ahh from huge to large`
`18:23.48`	`Egod`	`more the map is smaller, less you got lag`
`18:23.52`	`Egod`	`my size is now`
`18:24.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Bibendus (~Bibe@ip-80-249-36-63.static.adsl.cheapnet.it)`
`18:24.13`	`Egod`	`160x184`
`18:24.15`	`Ahli`	`I'm not sure why that lags more... the only thing I can think of would be pathfinding`
`18:24.30`	`Ahli`	`and more potential stuff that needs to be rendered`
`18:24.44`	`Egod`	`maybe because i use collision system like trigger periodic time`
`18:25.20`	`Ahli`	`triggers can lag, too... but usually you need a lot of operations the whole time to really effect the FPS...`
`18:26.08`	`Ahli`	`or performing a lot of costly operations like saving hundreds of entries in the data table`
`18:26.35`	`Ahli`	`but that is somehting you should notice in the trigger debugger`
`18:26.36`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:26.42`	`Egod`	`yes, i save a lot, but its not periodic`
`18:26.52`	`Egod`	`each (action) make a save`
`18:27.01`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:27.24`	`*** join/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.252.23.pool.invitel.hu)`
`18:27.33`	`Ahli`	`to lower the FPS the whole time, things need to be going on the whole time`
`18:27.46`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:28.34`	`Ahli`	`for example, I had a never ending thread that was started by some ability effects in one of my maps and after half an hour you really noticed that the performance was worse than at start`
`18:29.02`	`Egod`	`i see`
`18:29.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Back.`
`18:29.22`	`Ahli`	`but then there were like 1k threads running until it hit the limit and I noticed it because easy things bugged out like unit enters region -> order`
`18:30.04`	`Egod`	`Can i be a (spectator) or (Observer) and let a player test my map online^`
`18:30.08`	`Egod`	`as player 1^`
`18:30.24`	`Egod`	`how can i let a guys play as player 1 if i host it`
`18:30.34`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:32.46`	`Ahli`	`when you go observer, it should work`
`18:33.17`	`Egod`	`are you NA ahli`
`18:34.39`	`Ahli`	`I can be everything, but currently I'm on NA`
`18:34.49`	`Egod`	`what is your ID`
`18:34.55`	`Ahli`	`Ahli 634`
`18:35.47`	`*** join/#sc2mapster gooose (5489e018@gateway/web/freenode/ip.84.137.224.24)`
`18:36.03`	`gooose`	`<PROTECTED>`
`18:39.24`	`Egod`	`When you post another version (publish online) a new version of your map, it is better to change the name of the (BankFile) to be sure the Signature verification will reset , or it doesnt matter`
`18:41.23`	`Ahli`	`what?`
`18:41.36`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Renee_ (74e2e0c9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.116.226.224.201)`
`18:41.40`	`Ahli`	`new version == update your map publicly?`
`18:42.44`	`Egod`	`nvm i got it`
`18:49.37`	`Ahli`	`egod, I can't see the d2 stuff`
`18:50.45`	`Egod`	`try better setting`
`18:50.48`	`Egod`	`its a Decal`
`18:50.51`	`Egod`	`on the gournd`
`18:51.00`	`Egod`	`for the terrain`
`18:51.13`	`Egod`	`will try on another computer to`
`18:51.28`	`*** join/#sc2mapster sharf (~sharf@24-151-110-170.dhcp.nwtn.ct.charter.com)`
`19:00.22`	`Egod`	`Ahli will re-invite you in 3-4 min, im testing low setting see what append quickly`
`19:01.41`	`Ahli`	`k`
`19:02.30`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (836bc0ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.192.238)`
`19:06.27`	`Zolden`	`DeadZergling: hey`
`19:06.31`	`Zolden`	`so, how's the model?`
`19:06.34`	`DeadZergling`	`Hello Zolden, was playing with it again`
`19:06.50`	`Zolden`	`Egod: u guys testing the diablo?`
`19:06.51`	`DeadZergling`	`well is pretty cool standing still, much better than the last one you did`
`19:07.19`	`DeadZergling`	`is an odd pause between the windiness sometimes, but typically the thing is moving so fast you can't tell`
`19:07.44`	`Zolden`	`you mean in cutscene? or in game?`
`19:09.00`	`DeadZergling`	`in game i think, is really a non issue`
`19:09.34`	`DeadZergling`	`only other issue mostly has to do w/ me forgetting what I'm doing in data I think, trying to get rid of the shadow`
`19:09.46`	`DeadZergling`	`is a lovely giant half a circle underneath it, lol`
`19:10.15`	`Zolden`	`I can remove`
`19:10.37`	`DeadZergling`	`oh you have to remove it at the model level?`
`19:10.53`	`Zolden`	`yea`
`19:11.27`	`Zolden`	`cutscene doesn't show shadows, so i forget`
`19:11.57`	`DeadZergling`	`Guess other than that, is there any way to make the wind more violent, up the rate at which that blur occurs?`
`19:13.35`	`Egod`	`im testing with Ahli yes`
`19:13.50`	`G0A`	`Youtube "Experiment: There may be confidential content in your search results. Please do not share outside Google." ehhh`
`19:14.09`	`Zolden`	`DeadZergling: to up the rate you increase model's animation speed via data`
`19:14.33`	`Zolden`	`to make it more badass, you open the normal texture and increase its contrast`
`19:15.09`	`DeadZergling`	`by badass, I assume you mean more visible`
`19:15.34`	`Zolden`	`Ahli: hope you will share your impressions, especially would be interesting if you would compare the two diablos`
`19:16.08`	`Zolden`	`more violent`
`19:16.10`	`DeadZergling`	`will play with that later on tonight then`
`19:16.55`	`Zolden`	`or you can even add some smooth noise to the alpha or green layers of the normal map`
`19:19.54`	`DeadZergling`	`I see, will have to play with that a little`
`19:22.50`	`DeadZergling`	`i should at least download blender sometime, start trying to make shit`
`19:23.11`	`*** part/#sc2mapster G0A (~hookah604@91.83.252.23.pool.invitel.hu)`
`19:31.03`	`DeadZergling`	`yea and maybe I'll open a pig ranch since I like me some fresh bacon so much`
`19:37.28`	`Zolden`	`you mean a pig ranch?`
`19:37.34`	`Zolden`	`lots of pig?`
`19:37.48`	`Zolden`	`relaxing in their shit and oinking?`
`19:38.08`	`Zolden`	`that would be great`
`19:38.13`	`Zolden`	`pigs are funny`
`19:38.27`	`Zolden`	`almost like cats, but even funnier`
`19:38.34`	`Zolden`	`and yes, theyy are fucking tasty`
`19:38.36`	`DeadZergling`	`great for burning underneath castles to make them fall apart too`
`19:38.50`	`Zolden`	`jews are insane for not eating pigs`
`19:39.32`	`Zolden`	`(i didn't get what you mean with your last sentence)`
`19:39.44`	`Zolden`	`how can pigs burn castles?`
`19:39.46`	`DeadZergling`	`oh, in medieval warfare`
`19:39.55`	`DeadZergling`	`you could dig mines underneath a castle`
`19:39.55`	`Zolden`	`with their fat and catapults?`
`19:40.10`	`Zolden`	`and how pigs help? they dig?`
`19:40.12`	`DeadZergling`	`then burn pigs alive, the pig fat burns so hot it melts the castle from underneath`
`19:40.35`	`Zolden`	`omg, poor pigs`
`19:41.37`	`DeadZergling`	`war is never pretty, lol`
`19:47.50`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Unless it's a Unicorn war, shits fucking majestic.`
`19:49.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Hmmm.`
`19:51.02`	`DeadZergling`	`No Dustin, pretty sure some have nightmares about unicorns killing the women and raping the men`
`19:55.23`	`Zolden`	`unicorns can rape both genders`
`20:01.30`	`DeadZergling`	`anyways Zolden, you gonna make a no shadow version?`
`20:03.50`	`DeadZergling`	`pretty sure my ability to draw has gotten worse. I attempted to make pants, instead created fugly couch pillows`
`20:11.01`	`Zolden`	`DeadZergling: yea, i'll unshedow it`
`20:12.02`	`DeadZergling`	`cool, I'll just be trying to unmess my pants`
`20:17.08`	`Egod`	`thx ahli ... now i need to find this angle problem`
`20:21.02`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-245-51.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`20:21.54`	`IntProvider`	`So updated AoK with the new gathering system`
`20:22.00`	`Zolden`	`Ahli: how was that?`
`20:22.29`	`Zolden`	`why r u hiding under random nicknames?`
`20:22.47`	`Ahli`	`?`
`20:23.05`	`*** join/#sc2mapster DeadZergling (836bc0ee@gateway/web/freenode/ip.131.107.192.238)`
`20:23.12`	`IntProvider`	`lazy to enter everytime it :/ AND IM ANGRY HIPPO`
`20:23.26`	`AngryHippo`	`or its hyppo?`
`20:23.53`	`AngryHippo`	`well its hIppo so thats is solved`
`20:23.55`	`Zolden`	`Ahli: what are your impression of the diablo`
`20:25.45`	`Ahli`	`good athmosphere, controls are click intensive, projectile shooting has a small bug displacing the shots, monster info thing requires you to left click a monster, so I don't really use it often (my system with highlighting isn't much better),`
`20:26.39`	`Ahli`	`requirements for items aren't clear, organizing your items in your bag is slightly cumbersome with that many clicks,, a hotkey to sell would be great`
`20:27.42`	`Ahli`	`the game itself might be a bit slow, but it works reasonable for bnet`
`20:27.49`	`Zolden`	`thanks\`
`20:28.11`	`Ahli`	`so, you should test it sometime ;D`
`20:29.42`	`AngryHippo`	`Zolden so what is your new project will be about? General idea at least?`
`20:30.52`	`Zolden`	`AngryHippo: general idea is evolution of squadron td`
`20:31.05`	`*** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-188-101-189-227.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`20:31.10`	`AngryHippo`	`okay :/`
`20:31.24`	`Zolden`	`there will be much bigger building system, more resources`
`20:31.48`	`Zolden`	`alot of randomness`
`20:32.02`	`Zolden`	`some magic`
`20:32.18`	`Zolden`	`the concept isn't ready, but i like what it is going to be`
`20:33.09`	`Zolden`	`Blizz-Tenarsis: are you here?`
`20:33.21`	`AngryHippo`	`hope to see much better excecuttion of your new td than previous one`
`20:33.37`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-188-101-189-227.pools.arcor-ip.net)`
`20:33.41`	`Ahli`	`flash is crashtastic for me =/`
`20:33.57`	`Zolden`	`previous is cool, wanna go play it on na?`
`20:34.06`	`Zolden`	`i need to test changes`
`20:34.23`	`AngryHippo`	`nope, will go sleep any minute now`
`20:37.00`	`Zolden`	`ok, gn`
`20:37.30`	`Zolden`	`Dustin\|Work: wanna test my td?`
`20:37.43`	`Dustin\|Work`	`At work :(`
`20:37.49`	`Zolden`	`ok`
`20:39.04`	`Ahli`	`egod, http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8087999469`
`20:39.39`	`Egod`	`i think its map bounds`
`20:39.46`	`Ahli`	`in case you want to tinker with mouse UI and maybe adding something that lets you hold the mouse to simulate periodic clicks.`
`20:39.52`	`DeadZergling`	`hurray, pants I that don't make me completely cringe`
`20:39.58`	`DeadZergling`	`*I made`
`20:40.46`	`Egod`	`One more thing!Left clicks naturally create selection boxes, so you might want to use this to disable them: UI - Disable mouse drag selection for (All players)`
`20:47.43`	`Dustin\|Work`	`So does your face!`
`20:48.04`	`Egod`	`is the (offset) the Z position ^`
`20:48.34`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Who are you talking too`
`20:48.47`	`AngryHippo`	`GN`
`20:50.39`	`Ahli`	`yeah :D`
`20:52.12`	`Egod`	`ahli i find the Angle bug, its because i order my missile to move 60 towards, when i remove it, it work....so its linked with map size, something similar`
`20:54.57`	`Egod`	`oh wow....actuelly...its only on Battle.net...`
`20:55.09`	`Egod`	`tested online now and the bug is back`
`20:56.43`	`Ahli`	`60 is way too far`
`20:56.50`	`Egod`	`yep`
`20:56.52`	`DeadZergling`	`the best kind of bugs! online only`
`20:57.23`	`Egod`	`nvm, i tested the wong version`
`20:57.34`	`Ahli`	`^`
`20:58.02`	`Egod`	`1 bug fixed i think, moving on tosh boss bar selection`
`20:58.48`	`Ahli`	`sooo, step 1, back to low settings to avoid screaming computer`
`20:59.06`	`Ahli`	`step 2, test because I had no idea where I left`
`20:59.18`	`Egod`	`buy a btter comp!`
`20:59.42`	`Ahli`	`I would need a better CPU cooler than the shitty stock one`
`21:00.06`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I need a Liquid cooler for my CPU`
`21:00.20`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Sick of having the case open so it doesnt overheat`
`21:00.22`	`Ahli`	`my graphics card is relatively quiet`
`21:00.32`	`Ahli`	`so I only got the CPU screaming at me`
`21:01.01`	`Ahli`	`rooooaaaaaaaar, you have sc2 in background and you are in bnet menu looking into graphic options,rooooaaaaaaar`
`21:01.45`	`Egod`	`why spacebar for hidind^ i never hit spacebar XD`
`21:01.59`	`Ahli`	`I always hit spacebar`
`21:02.03`	`DeadZergling`	`yeaIneverhitthatkeyeither`
`21:02.14`	`DeadZergling`	`Itjusttakestoomuchtime`
`21:02.18`	`Egod`	`i hit... Esc`
`21:02.20`	`Egod`	`or`
`21:02.28`	`Egod`	`Specific Key on keyboard`
`21:02.33`	`Ahli`	`or space to close all`
`21:02.35`	`Egod`	`but never spacebar lol`
`21:02.41`	`Ahli`	`D2 had that button I believe`
`21:02.48`	`Ahli`	`PoE has it, I have it`
`21:02.50`	`Egod`	`had Esc`
`21:02.55`	`Ahli`	`D3 too I believe, not sure`
`21:03.01`	`Egod`	`i dont think d2 or d3 have spacebar`
`21:03.03`	`Ahli`	`should be`
`21:03.20`	`Ahli`	`challenge accepted`
`21:04.46`	`Egod`	`hm`
`21:04.50`	`ThunderLord`	`anyone know if its possible to get an actor to play an animation in reverse?`
`21:05.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I think through some hackery`
`21:05.13`	`Ahli`	`D3 has spacebar`
`21:05.14`	`Egod`	`you moved from the quest because you hit the zoom key to unlock it, cheater! cause i blocked it :P`
`21:05.35`	`Egod`	`so will block zoom`
`21:05.39`	`Egod`	`now your gg`
`21:05.40`	`Ahli`	`spacebar clears all windows or skips one talk in the conversation or skips the cutscene`
`21:05.51`	`Egod`	`ok fine`
`21:09.58`	`Egod`	`google just give me 2.00$ for 1 month of 5000 view by day on my youtube video.... will not be rich i guess :P`
`21:10.39`	`Dustin\|Work`	`2 free dollars!`
`21:10.41`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Nice`
`21:10.49`	`Egod`	`for 1 month...`
`21:10.53`	`Egod`	`XD`
`21:10.57`	`DeadZergling`	`hrrrrmm, so 150k views = 2 $ ?`
`21:11.07`	`Dustin\|Work`	`You'll be a 24dollaraire in a year!`
`21:11.13`	`Egod`	`150k by days ...cant`
`21:11.55`	`DeadZergling`	`Why I'd say, he is already a billionthinaire.`
`21:12.01`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Wow how does anyone make any money on youtube with 150k views a month getting you 2 dollars`
`21:12.22`	`Egod`	`it was not full month`
`21:12.24`	`Egod`	`like`
`21:12.29`	`DeadZergling`	`He has 2 billion billionths of money!`
`21:12.35`	`Egod`	`24k of view in a month = 2$`
`21:12.37`	`Dustin\|Work`	`So much munies!`
`21:12.53`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ohhh I thought you said you had 5k a day for a month`
`21:13.02`	`Egod`	`yeah for like`
`21:13.07`	`Egod`	`1 or 2 week`
`21:13.10`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Gotcha`
`21:13.21`	`Egod`	`after that it was like 1000 to 0`
`21:13.29`	`Egod`	`but the high pic was 5000 by day`
`21:13.36`	`Egod`	`\and its where i made 2$`
`21:14.16`	`Egod`	`0.30c from my website, and 1.70$ from Youtube`
`21:14.26`	`Egod`	`so video are much more popular`
`21:14.46`	`DeadZergling`	`that's cool, but doesn't mean you can just come in here all arrogant`
`21:14.51`	`DeadZergling`	`don't be getting uppity!`
`21:15.13`	`DeadZergling`	`hehe, maybe it'll improve with other videos Egod`
`21:15.24`	`Zolden`	`yea, websites for loosers`
`21:16.12`	`DeadZergling`	`how does Francis stay alive`
`21:16.33`	`Egod`	`he got like 300k to 400k by video....`
`21:16.39`	`Egod`	`its some free money`
`21:16.55`	`Egod`	`more video he made, more people watch`
`21:17.04`	`Egod`	`more money he goit`
`21:17.11`	`DeadZergling`	`Yea but still, if a peak of 5k a day if 2 $`
`21:17.25`	`DeadZergling`	`and let's 20-30 videos of his got that`
`21:17.34`	`DeadZergling`	`he has got a whole, 60 $`
`21:17.40`	`Egod`	`yes`
`21:17.50`	`Ahli`	`that's why he is angry when a 60€ game is terrible`
`21:17.51`	`Egod`	`but do you watch 20 video of francis by day^ no`
`21:18.37`	`DeadZergling`	`I liked his cinnamon challenge video`
`21:18.44`	`Egod`	`XD`
`21:18.53`	`Egod`	`stop watching, he got money`
`21:19.16`	`JademusSreg`	`In on what have I walked?`
`21:19.38`	`DeadZergling`	`just discussing how youtube made Egod a billionthinaire`
`21:19.49`	`Egod`	`2$ for 1 month`
`21:19.53`	`Egod`	`im so rich`
`21:20.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`21:23.48`	`DeadZergling`	`Lot of people done like Francis did already, hopefully Francis doesn't meet the same end`
`21:24.18`	`DeadZergling`	`John Candy for example`
`21:24.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Finally, a set of words I recognize.`
`21:24.55`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I miss john candy :(`
`21:25.02`	`Ahli`	`who is/was that?`
`21:25.14`	`DeadZergling`	`yea, I still watch who is harry crumb every so often`
`21:25.22`	`Ahli`	`ahh that guy`
`21:25.41`	`DeadZergling`	`one of the famous fat actors`
`21:26.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`John Candy and Chris Farley are my fav fat guys`
`21:26.21`	`DeadZergling`	`and no more movies from them, ever`
`21:26.36`	`JademusSreg`	`My favorite JC role would be his dual roles in Nothing But Trouble.`
`21:26.51`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I dont think I've seen that one`
`21:27.01`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Ill see if its on netflix tonight`
`21:27.13`	`DeadZergling`	`if it was any good, it won't be`
`21:27.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Bones, dead rappers, the judge, sausage scene, penis nose.`
`21:27.22`	`DeadZergling`	`Netflix is really bad about having the good movies on`
`21:27.27`	`JademusSreg`	`If those don't recall vivid images, you've not seen it.`
`21:27.37`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Yeah which is why I just go torrent it if not :D`
`21:27.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Oh, also slimy man child.`
`21:29.13`	`DeadZergling`	`is really easy to get to know what the Francis character is all about in a hurry Jademus, lol`
`21:29.32`	`DeadZergling`	`just look up Francis is upset or Where's my mountain dew`
`21:29.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Who's Francis?`
`21:30.27`	`DeadZergling`	`a youtube really fat guy, famous for making angry fat guy videos`
`21:30.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Oh, so entirely irrelevant. Got it.`
`21:30.51`	`DeadZergling`	`pretty much`
`21:31.22`	`DeadZergling`	`He rages for 2-3 minutes about sim city, or wow, or diablo 3, or whatever he happens to be playing at the time`
`21:32.42`	`DeadZergling`	`people been famous for much dumber reasons, eheh`
`21:32.55`	`DeadZergling`	`Chris brown, for example`
`21:32.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah, memories. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enUo-1TjdEs`
`21:33.31`	`Ahli`	`ohh state of melee mapmaking community`
`21:34.26`	`DeadZergling`	`Or Nobody Got Time for That woman.`
`21:34.29`	`Ahli`	`oh man, youtube just keeps crashing flash in combination with twitch it seems`
`21:35.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah, yes, reminds me to update flash.`
`21:38.24`	`DeadZergling`	`Wish I could become famous just for saving my own ass when I realize the building is on fire.`
`21:39.35`	`Egod`	`all bug fixed Ahli, i skipped the spacebar key thing :)`
`21:40.13`	`DeadZergling`	`That makes me a little sad, no Idra rage quits today`
`21:41.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Oh, are there matches?`
`21:41.50`	`JademusSreg`	`Link?`
`21:42.04`	`DeadZergling`	`second`
`21:42.18`	`DeadZergling`	`http://www.twitch.tv/wcs_america in 18 minutes`
`21:42.49`	`DeadZergling`	`i must root for HelloKitty, purely because of the name`
`21:42.52`	`JademusSreg`	`That'll give me time to fuck around with the page.`
`21:42.54`	`Egod`	`0.02 second refresh life/mana.... good find ahli`
`21:43.04`	`JademusSreg`	`And yeah, pretty badass name.`
`21:43.18`	`DeadZergling`	`anyone brave enough to play as that`
`21:43.22`	`DeadZergling`	`must have some skills`
`21:43.23`	`DeadZergling`	`lol`
`21:44.11`	`JademusSreg`	`<3 https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Starcraft%202/TLTTVMLGFKNRND.jpg`
`21:45.57`	`Ahli`	`:)`
`21:46.10`	`DeadZergling`	`hrrrrmmm, I need to learn to read dates apparently`
`21:46.18`	`DeadZergling`	`they don't do the letters in order at all, lol`
`21:46.22`	`Ahli`	`debugger, watch at functions, look how the numbers increase in the stuff that runs the whole time/often`
`21:46.41`	`DeadZergling`	`I must now root for Sen`
`21:46.46`	`DeadZergling`	`down with the tossed salads!`
`21:47.20`	`Egod`	`to you think periodic Game Time lag less than periodic Real Time`
`21:47.29`	`Egod`	`do you think periodic Game Time lag less than periodic Real Time`
`21:48.03`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Depends on your game speed and what you're running`
`21:48.34`	`Dustin\|Work`	`Real Time is always constant, game time periodic will runn less/more depending on the speed of the game`
`21:49.12`	`Egod`	`but, if 1xplayer lag,,,the periodic Real Time maybe doesnt stop`
`21:49.53`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I don't believe it works that way`
`21:50.19`	`A1win`	`it's just game time converted to real time`
`21:50.36`	`Egod`	`oh`
`21:51.02`	`A1win`	`you can achieve the same by doing time / Game Speed Factor`
`21:51.49`	`Dustin\|Work`	`A1win, how's the Planet hopper going?`
`21:51.51`	`A1win`	`but game time is more accurate`
`21:52.20`	`JademusSreg`	`And it gives you more updates per game time period.`
`21:52.29`	`A1win`	`I've been learning Unity for a while, haven't had the patience to do both that and SC2 editor ;p`
`21:52.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Thus more precision.`
`21:55.52`	`DeadZergling`	`Given up yet A1Win?`
`21:56.00`	`DeadZergling`	`I mean, FFA mode ready yet?`
`21:56.02`	`Dustin\|Work`	`I've been working with Unity too`
`21:56.18`	`Dustin\|Work`	`But been trying to make some progress on Hybrid Assault`
`21:59.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Soon I'll be messing with the Item/Inventory API I expect.`
`22:01.40`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Tolkfan (~Thunderbi@host-89-230-245-51.nowydwor.mm.pl)`
`22:07.03`	`Egod`	`Dustin when you got some time, i want to show you my map`
`22:07.50`	`Zolden`	`why no one wants to show me their maps`
`22:08.15`	`Egod`	`your good at finding bugs^`
`22:08.20`	`Egod`	`find me some bug`
`22:08.23`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm just prototyping.`
`22:08.57`	`Zolden`	`Egod: r u testing at us?`
`22:09.04`	`Zolden`	`i'll be there in a few minutes`
`22:09.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Well, more accurately, I'm building a watering device improvised from a retractable ladder.`
`22:09.29`	`Egod`	`well`
`22:09.42`	`Egod`	`you can only help me if you have high setting graphic`
`22:09.47`	`Egod`	`or you cant see decal on ground`
`22:09.59`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: you're making a child toy experimenting with fusion reactor and black holes`
`22:10.06`	`*** join/#sc2mapster [BNC]Torhal (Torhal@2a00:1a28:1101:3e6::1)`
`22:10.13`	`Zolden`	`i have ultra atm`
`22:10.27`	`Zolden`	`Egod: do you need a decal which is visible on low>?`
`22:10.41`	`Egod`	`i dont know`
`22:10.49`	`Egod`	`i dont think`
`22:14.08`	`Zolden`	`Egod: join mapster channel on us pls, so i add u`
`22:14.28`	`Egod`	`k`
`22:14.58`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Net_Creator (~Net_Creat@unaffiliated/reactorex)`
`22:15.29`	`Egod`	`the channel is empty`
`22:15.59`	`DeadZergling`	`capoch is dead before it even began`
`22:16.02`	`DeadZergling`	`he blew his one chance`
`22:16.23`	`Zolden`	`starcraft://profile/1/1746045377104052224`
`22:16.34`	`Zolden`	`i believe this should do the trick`
`22:16.40`	`Egod`	`just give me your ID`
`22:17.04`	`Zolden`	`929 i think`
`22:17.32`	`Zolden`	`there is btw "sc2mapster" group`
`22:17.58`	`Ahli`	`idra is now teamless`
`22:18.29`	`Zolden`	`it's team idraless`
`22:58.40`	`DeadZergling`	`PvP, heh, too bad there isnt a way for them both to lose`
`23:02.03`	`Zolden`	`Blizz-Tenarsis: aren't you here?`
`23:19.25`	`zeldarules28\|AFK`	`evidently not`
`23:19.33`	`zeldarules28\|AFK`	`but I'm here now :P`
`23:28.02`	`Zolden`	`zeldarules28: where is Almighty?`
`23:28.31`	`zeldarules28`	`He's got some stuff going on in real life that's preventing him from being too active at the moemnt.`
`23:28.43`	`zeldarules28`	`Moving n things...No internet...blech`
`23:29.02`	`zeldarules28`	`Is this about the model? I might be able to contact him if you need.`
`23:30.32`	`Zolden`	`no hurry, i just gave him the last version, and he kept silence`
`23:31.05`	`zeldarules28`	`ah okay. The last version I saw was awesome ^.^ Thanks for all the hard work, we'll be revealing it soon :P`
`23:31.19`	`Zolden`	`cool`
`23:31.38`	`zeldarules28`	`But I'm in the middle of exams and his internet's all wonky so....Not much starmon progress at the moment. But we have something special lined up for as soon as we can make the video.`
`23:32.54`	`Zolden`	`btw, i think i know the best way you can add specular maps to all models`
`23:33.14`	`Zolden`	`via blender and println's m3 tools`
`23:33.27`	`zeldarules28`	`Oh, I'm clueless with models O.o`
`23:33.35`	`Zolden`	`adding a gray specular will make em look prettier`
`23:33.46`	`Zolden`	`ok, i'll talke about it with Almaity`
`23:34.02`	`zeldarules28`	`Sorry :P`
`23:35.21`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (1854e5d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.84.229.210)`
`23:40.05`	`DeadZergling`	`Hi triceron, were you just joking about the idra head, or you make one? lol`
`23:40.20`	`Triceron`	`Both`
`23:40.21`	`Triceron`	`:P`
`23:40.23`	`DeadZergling`	`could use that to make a Grackling and an Idralisk`
`23:40.41`	`Triceron`	`I haven't made one yet, but I could prolly just as easily take an existing head model I have and modify it`
`23:40.53`	`Triceron`	`haha, we could do both`
`23:41.10`	`Triceron`	`I could make the head just a separate piece so it can be used as an attachment`
`23:43.25`	`JademusSreg`	`That would entertain. =D`
`23:44.52`	`Zolden`	`this way i can invent alot of units: hydraling, zealisk, hydralot, marimmortal, colocking, ulthor`
`23:47.54`	`Zolden`	`maralker, reaphoenix, voidark arcarrier`
`23:50.25`	`Zolden`	`DeadZergling: do you see sun covered by moon?`
`23:50.42`	`DeadZergling`	`nope, not exactly outside though`

Generated by irclog2html.pl Modified by Tim Riker to work with infobot.