| 00:00.05 | DeadZergling | It is retarded, by the way. |
| 00:00.16 | DeadZergling | or if you like being PC, developmentally disabled. |
| 00:04.19 | A1win | oh look, it's DeadZergling o: |
| 00:06.02 | DeadZergling | hi a1win |
| 00:06.10 | DeadZergling | could only ignore my project for so long, lol |
| 00:06.24 | A1win | :x |
| 00:06.27 | A1win | I started a new one |
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| 00:06.40 | DeadZergling | how many times? |
| 00:06.58 | A1win | well I tried to get back to CraftCraft a bit, did some updating, until realizing what a mess it is |
| 00:07.40 | A1win | new project (a bit out of date video) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kggpdh_lDuc |
| 00:08.12 | A1win | a bit more up-to-date video but doesn't show all the features, more about the UI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUxr-lJUt8s |
| 00:09.23 | A1win | some updates to UI after that, and zolden's planet models which still need some tweaking: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/SC2%202013-04-29%2002-53-33-03.jpg |
| 00:10.06 | DeadZergling | wait, did you make t hat really old spaceship meteroid shooter game? |
| 00:10.31 | A1win | mmh nope, I did have a physics example though |
| 00:10.42 | A1win | well, sort of |
| 00:10.58 | Ahli | he didn't make the asteroids clone on bnet |
| 00:11.14 | A1win | this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDcRkC9cXss |
| 00:11.31 | A1win | but I remade the physics from scratch, that mothership thing isn't using actual gravity formula |
| 00:12.47 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling That was soulcarverr who made taht |
| 00:14.41 | A1win | not sure what I should do next o: I kind of have everything essential in place... |
| 00:14.45 | A1win | I guess more weapons |
| 00:16.59 | DeadZergling | soulcarverr who made what? |
| 00:17.02 | A1win | oh yeah and explosions that affect velocity |
| 00:17.50 | A1win | the map you were talking about, apparently |
| 00:18.16 | DeadZergling | just from first screenshot |
| 00:18.24 | DeadZergling | it looked totally like that asteroid game, lol |
| 00:18.37 | A1win | hmm? |
| 00:18.44 | A1win | I don't think I've seen it then |
| 00:18.47 | DeadZergling | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/ph/SC2%202013-04-29%2002-53-33-03.jpg |
| 00:19.03 | DeadZergling | is the stupid one where you shoot 1 asteroid, it becomes 2 or 4 |
| 00:19.04 | A1win | well it's planets in space |
| 00:19.05 | A1win | ;D |
| 00:19.12 | DeadZergling | you shoot those, they become more tinier ones |
| 00:19.13 | DeadZergling | etc |
| 00:19.15 | A1win | it's not like you can make it look very different |
| 00:19.37 | DeadZergling | sure you could, visible dark matter! |
| 00:19.43 | A1win | ;p |
| 00:20.04 | A1win | where did zolden go :( I want to tweak my planet visuals |
| 00:20.11 | DeadZergling | anyways, interesting, idea |
| 00:20.12 | Saeris1 | what up people? |
| 00:20.14 | A1win | I mean I want him to tweak |
| 00:20.32 | DeadZergling | careful w/ more weapons, want to make sure each weapon has a reason to be used |
| 00:20.40 | DeadZergling | so you don't have a few nobody uses those weapons, lol |
| 00:20.56 | A1win | the gameplay of this map is more like based on old cave shooter games, they were super popular in finland in the late 90s |
| 00:21.09 | A1win | yeah |
| 00:21.13 | DeadZergling | like after watching that video, why would I want anything other than the twin straight shooter? |
| 00:21.25 | DeadZergling | that seems most powerful and hardest to dodge by far |
| 00:21.29 | A1win | they aren't balanced at all :P |
| 00:21.37 | A1win | just two different types of weapons to test |
| 00:21.46 | A1win | they do the same amount of damage per projectile :P |
| 00:21.55 | DeadZergling | one is much easier to aim |
| 00:22.19 | DeadZergling | anyways, just saying :) |
| 00:22.23 | A1win | the lasers have a very quick limited life and will do a lot less damage |
| 00:22.59 | A1win | I'll probably give the blue blobs an explosion that increases your velocity |
| 00:23.42 | A1win | I also want some kind of a laser weapon but not sure what it should be like |
| 00:23.44 | DeadZergling | blue blobs could be quite powerful |
| 00:23.55 | DeadZergling | especially if you get to move your ship |
| 00:24.01 | DeadZergling | just fly straight into them and blob it |
| 00:24.07 | A1win | hehe |
| 00:24.17 | A1win | there will be defensive abilities too |
| 00:24.21 | DeadZergling | a big solid hit line would be cool for the laser |
| 00:24.26 | DeadZergling | just need to give some sort of warning before it fires |
| 00:24.30 | DeadZergling | so there is a way to dodge |
| 00:24.32 | A1win | there's 4 different weapon slots atm, though not sure if I keep all 4 or go for 3 |
| 00:25.20 | A1win | one slot for those pew pew things, one for utility stuff that you just target at a spot and something happens, like force field from SC2 or something like that |
| 00:25.28 | DeadZergling | either that or pull a contra laser |
| 00:25.32 | A1win | and one for defensive stuff that you don't need to aim at all |
| 00:25.51 | A1win | which will also have a hotkey so that it doesn't need to be selected to use |
| 00:26.28 | DeadZergling | aye, controls will make or break this mod for sure |
| 00:26.33 | A1win | the 4th slot atm is supposed to be just a "special weapon" but I'm not sure if that's a good idea, might be better to just have them all in the weapon slot |
| 00:26.41 | A1win | controls are nice |
| 00:26.45 | A1win | even with lag |
| 00:27.09 | A1win | we've had some multiplayer tests |
| 00:27.11 | DeadZergling | that's good, that is even more important than it looking cool, lol |
| 00:27.17 | A1win | hehe yeah |
| 00:27.29 | DeadZergling | space games, controls are fricking everything |
| 00:27.36 | DeadZergling | all 5 or 6 buttons of them... |
| 00:28.11 | A1win | click mouse 1 = jump from planet with a velocity that's lower the closer you click to your ship |
| 00:28.17 | A1win | so you can do small jumps if you want |
| 00:28.45 | A1win | hold mouse 1 = use thrusters, which constantly increase your velocity towards the cursor, but has limited fuel and not very effective |
| 00:29.01 | A1win | the combined gravity of all the planets is still the dominating source of velocity most of the time |
| 00:29.21 | A1win | so thrusters are used more like for steering than moving the ship after the initial jump |
| 00:29.24 | DeadZergling | I see, so are you keeping it space arcade? |
| 00:29.28 | DeadZergling | or coming up w/ a new name? |
| 00:29.36 | A1win | dunno what the name will be |
| 00:30.07 | A1win | now it's called "A1win Space Thing Test" so not that one :P |
| 00:30.34 | DeadZergling | that one is awesome though! |
| 00:30.52 | A1win | gameplay will be team vs team area control |
| 00:31.04 | DeadZergling | make a FFA mode too |
| 00:31.07 | A1win | you capture planet clusters by having your team's ships near them |
| 00:31.16 | A1win | mm possibly later |
| 00:31.34 | DeadZergling | no capturing, just a slaughter |
| 00:31.38 | DeadZergling | top score at end of 10 mins wins |
| 00:31.48 | DeadZergling | but aye, get the first vision done first, lol |
| 00:31.50 | A1win | and you get score over time for each zone your team controls |
| 00:32.05 | DeadZergling | just know I'd wanna do nothing but FFA |
| 00:32.14 | A1win | :x hmmh |
| 00:32.15 | DeadZergling | fuck needing a team, ill just go down guns blazing |
| 00:32.19 | A1win | haha |
| 00:32.28 | DeadZergling | team only brings you down typically |
| 00:33.06 | DeadZergling | your project of course, just foresee a troll wars happening again, lol |
| 00:33.23 | A1win | troll wars? |
| 00:33.33 | DeadZergling | yea, forget the guy's name |
| 00:33.39 | DeadZergling | is the one who made that hollowman horror map |
| 00:33.58 | DeadZergling | he made a troll wars map, based off fat princess |
| 00:34.19 | DeadZergling | wasn't very successful due to lag and requiring teams |
| 00:35.32 | A1win | I don't believe that requiring teams would be an obstacle for popularity in itself ;p |
| 00:35.58 | DeadZergling | true, I'm sure bnet players have grown much more patient in recent months |
| 00:36.07 | DeadZergling | and having to wait for players is a thing of the past |
| 00:36.37 | A1win | it would seem to be the other way round :P |
| 00:36.57 | A1win | a map that is not popular suffers even more if it requires teams |
| 00:36.58 | DeadZergling | is the nice thing about FFA, no needing to wait for your friend or two |
| 00:37.06 | DeadZergling | get on the same team |
| 00:37.14 | DeadZergling | just get whoever and go |
| 00:37.22 | DeadZergling | noobs? no problem, free kills! |
| 00:37.26 | A1win | :x |
| 00:37.47 | A1win | yeah, but FFA games can't be made as deep as XvX games |
| 00:37.48 | DeadZergling | haha just giving you crap a1win |
| 00:38.06 | DeadZergling | just seems like it'd be easy to implement, and could make it far more successful |
| 00:39.14 | A1win | that's where the point that JademusSreg made comes to play, that if there are too many different game modes at first, it diverges the player base right from the start |
| 00:39.17 | DeadZergling | disable the planet capturing, add a scoreboard, add a trigger to update scoreboard, add a timer of 10 mins or whatever. |
| 00:39.48 | DeadZergling | very true as well |
| 00:39.56 | Taintedwisp | Is there a way to change the mover of a unit temporarly? |
| 00:40.05 | A1win | yeah it'd be easy to implement, but then people would have to find players for that specific game mode they want to play, instead of just for that specific map they want to play |
| 00:40.08 | DeadZergling | my initial impression was wild ship maneuvers blasting the hell out of ALL |
| 00:41.02 | A1win | Taintedwisp, I don't think there's any other way but morphing the unit |
| 00:41.20 | DeadZergling | couldn't he edit the values of the mover itself |
| 00:41.21 | Taintedwisp | hmm alright.. is there a way to change a unit to a flying unit then ? |
| 00:41.31 | Taintedwisp | thats all I am trying to do.. |
| 00:41.36 | Taintedwisp | I make a unit a flying unit temporarly |
| 00:41.39 | DeadZergling | although morphing probably work better for the more complex shit |
| 00:41.54 | DeadZergling | don't terrans have a unit that does that? :P |
| 00:41.55 | A1win | Taintedwisp, flying in what sense? |
| 00:41.55 | Taintedwisp | I wish blizzard would have better fucking tool tips |
| 00:42.04 | Taintedwisp | Whats plane delta in modifications? |
| 00:42.21 | A1win | if you just want the unit to change height and be targeted as air, look at phoenix's bubble thing |
| 00:42.25 | A1win | but that doesn't touch the unit's mover |
| 00:42.30 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 00:42.32 | Taintedwisp | that will work |
| 00:42.49 | A1win | you can change height and plane delta with behavior |
| 00:42.54 | A1win | oh right that's what you just asked |
| 00:43.00 | A1win | plane delta is the air/ground thing |
| 00:43.14 | A1win | values -1, 0, or 1 |
| 00:43.34 | A1win | -1 changes it from 0 to 1 or from 1 to 0, 0 has no difference, and 1 changes it from -1 to 0 or from 0 to 1 |
| 00:43.47 | A1win | err, not from -1 |
| 00:43.52 | A1win | it can only be 0 or 1 :P |
| 00:43.55 | A1win | but anyway |
| 00:44.01 | A1win | 1 = flag enabled, 0 = flag disabled |
| 00:44.11 | A1win | that plane delta just modifies the flag |
| 00:47.06 | A1win | let me start over... the unit's "Plane" field defines whether or not the unit can be targeted as air and/or ground, both air and ground are either 0 or 1, 0 being not targetable and 1 being targetable... and Plane Delta on the behavior modifies those values :x |
| 00:47.52 | DeadZergling | forgot to capitalize the L at the start |
| 00:47.54 | DeadZergling | try again |
| 01:02.58 | Taintedwisp | okay I got it to work, BUT the problem is, its still colliding with units under it, so how do I remove collision |
| 01:03.40 | JademusSreg | Pew. |
| 01:04.09 | Taintedwisp | hey jademus how do I change collision from ground to air in a buff behavior? |
| 01:09.16 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 01:09.33 | JademusSreg | As I recall, can't be done, but I'll double check. |
| 01:10.21 | JademusSreg | But more importantly, why would you want to change collision? |
| 01:10.44 | JademusSreg | Is this a Viking situation or a Graviton Prison? |
| 01:14.28 | Taintedwisp | graviton prison ish |
| 01:14.38 | Taintedwisp | I make my chicken fly for a short duration :P |
| 01:14.44 | Taintedwisp | but hes colliding with units under him |
| 01:15.16 | JademusSreg | Start from the design, and be detailed. How should it behave? |
| 01:18.34 | Taintedwisp | It should Fly up into the air increasing movement speed, attack speed, and removing all collision for 15 seconds |
| 01:19.01 | Taintedwisp | I got it doing everything except collision |
| 01:19.12 | JademusSreg | Ah, easy enough. |
| 01:20.30 | JademusSreg | I can think of several approaches, but if you want it to not collide with ground, Behavior : (Modifications+) : State Flags : Suppress Collision. |
| 01:21.19 | JademusSreg | While one's first impulse is to object that then it doesn't collide with air, note that air doesn't quite collide with air. |
| 01:21.51 | JademusSreg | Rather, they flock, and only regard collision radius when they are not moving. |
| 01:22.30 | JademusSreg | So it shouldn't be an issue. That combined with a few other fields will give you the desired effect. |
| 01:22.33 | Taintedwisp | OHH haha |
| 01:22.35 | Taintedwisp | thanks |
| 01:23.43 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 01:29.10 | motive|| | Guys, I just want to say. |
| 01:29.11 | motive|| | Peanuts. |
| 01:29.57 | JademusSreg | considers various jocular vulgarities in response. |
| 01:30.13 | motive | Stewox PM'd me conspiracy theories but he's not here for me to debunk them. |
| 01:30.14 | motive | I am disappoint. |
| 01:31.00 | motive | Also, Photon Cycles is still not page 1. |
| 01:31.02 | motive | I am more disappoint. |
| 01:31.23 | JademusSreg | Motive, so long as it's for the intellectual exercise of it, what little it may provide, I can't say it's an entirely useless activity. =D |
| 01:31.40 | motive | Oh, I take perverse pleasure in using logic to debunk conspiracies. |
| 01:31.48 | motive | Even if it's lost on deaf ears. |
| 01:32.36 | JademusSreg | I can relate. So long as you're enjoying yourself, that's what matters. |
| 01:33.10 | motive | It's an art really. The goal is to reduce the argument into two possibilities, one of which is logical, and one of which is very clearly insane, even to their standards, which translates up to the situation at hand. |
| 01:34.02 | JademusSreg | I considered hiding an iteration of Photon Cycles in another map, but I'd prefer to avoid assaulting that expired equine specimen. |
| 01:34.13 | McqfrTheScott | Taintedwisp and I |
| 01:34.14 | motive | It was so fun :( |
| 01:34.15 | McqfrTheScott | are gay lovers |
| 01:34.19 | McqfrTheScott | It is known |
| 01:34.26 | JademusSreg | Also, argumentum ad absurdum. <3 |
| 01:34.31 | motive | Yup. |
| 01:34.41 | motive | Reduction to the absurd. But I'm a reductionist at heart in all my endeavors. |
| 01:34.49 | motive | I reduce my code to it's simplest parts, even if it means rewriting the entire thing. |
| 01:35.03 | JademusSreg | Yes, Laj, I saw the marriage proposal written in the clouds via bi-plane the other day. Quite romantic. |
| 01:35.05 | motive | Simplicity in a complex system is just so elegant. |
| 01:35.46 | Ekalsion | Jade you're a homosexual. Confirm or deny. |
| 01:36.39 | JademusSreg | Motive, it's rather synesthetic, for me at least. As though one can feel the topology of the abstractions, the texture, the form. |
| 01:36.51 | Ekalsion | Confirmed. |
| 01:37.02 | JademusSreg | Ek, all kinds of shit is being given, honest. |
| 01:37.24 | Ekalsion | When do you plan on telling your parents about this turn of events? |
| 01:37.30 | Ekalsion | Do you think they'll still accept you? |
| 01:38.20 | motive | Exactly. That feeling when a few simple abstract systems work in tandem to pull off complex tasks with a greater degree of precision, it's so nice. :) It's my drug. |
| 01:38.31 | motive | It's why my career is my career. Haha |
| 01:38.53 | motive | I love designing things. :| |
| 01:38.53 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:27.31 | Taintedwisp_ | There, keyboard bugged out again haha |
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| 02:29.41 | Vindicator | random question: for replay custom interfaces, are we forced to use layout files or is there a way to make triggered dialogs for replay interfaces? |
| 02:29.57 | JademusSreg | The former. |
| 02:30.16 | JademusSreg | But you can at least modify Templates freely, iirc. |
| 02:30.39 | JademusSreg | ~TaintedWisp |
| 02:30.39 | purl | from memory, taintedwisp is strangely endearing, like a big dumb puppy that just wants to play and piss in your shoes. |
| 02:30.49 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 02:30.55 | motive | Now I need new shoes... |
| 02:30.58 | JademusSreg | Still true as the last time purl said it. |
| 02:31.11 | Taintedwisp_ | used to be "Taintedwisp is a niggerjew" |
| 02:31.21 | Taintedwisp_ | no one says shit to that though :/ |
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| 02:31.35 | Taintedwisp_ | I mean dont insult jews -_- |
| 02:32.22 | JademusSreg | That lacked even a modicum of wit. I'd object to that if for no other reason. |
| 02:32.26 | Vindicator_ | what about the dialog in this video at 0:45 on the right. is that with an interface file? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qnEcfKevJXY |
| 02:32.29 | motive | Scumbag taintedwisp: defends the jews as a matter of principle, ridicules the LGBT community. |
| 02:32.40 | Taintedwisp_ | Thats damn right.. |
| 02:33.12 | Taintedwisp_ | Fuck LGBT, Jews as I recall haven't done shit wrong to me, or anyone... |
| 02:33.16 | JademusSreg | Vin, busy, can't be bothered to watch the video. Screenshot? |
| 02:33.31 | Taintedwisp_ | Gays have wronged me, by labelling me calling people fags as hatespeech. |
| 02:33.32 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 02:33.36 | Vindicator_ | i mean just look at 0:45, no need to watch |
| 02:33.44 | Vindicator_ | i'll send it if u need me to tho |
| 02:33.56 | Taintedwisp_ | Jews are the worlds punching bags it seems :/ |
| 02:34.56 | Taintedwisp_ | i mean all problems athiest have with christians or muslims they cant say about jews, Jews dont try to convert you, or blow up your shit., yet they get all the hate |
| 02:35.41 | Vindicator_ | http://i.imgur.com/jvA2Udr.png |
| 02:36.04 | Taintedwisp_ | Looks a bit cluttered but shows potential vindi |
| 02:36.17 | Vindicator_ | it's not mine lol |
| 02:36.30 | Vindicator_ | i'm just trying to find out if that was done with interface files or triggers. |
| 02:38.31 | JademusSreg | I'm guessing a combination of the two. The map contains the dialogs and shit, and the Observers have applied an interface mod. |
| 02:38.57 | Taintedwisp_ | Jademus Sreg, How do you remove the observer interterface completely so its just a blank screen? |
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| 02:39.06 | Vindicator_ | lol |
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| 02:39.48 | Vindicator_ | so if he used triggers how would i be able to use triggered dialogs for replays? kinda don't get whats going on |
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| 02:40.00 | Vindicator_ | if ur crazy busy i can ask some othertime though |
| 02:40.10 | *** mode/#sc2mapster [+b *!*@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.91.50]] by Sixen |
| 02:40.31 | motive | Sixen has slain the beast! |
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| 02:40.36 | Sixen | guess nto |
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| 02:40.40 | motive | :| |
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| 02:40.51 | Sixen | i'll figure it out |
| 02:40.53 | Sixen | lol |
| 02:40.59 | motive | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.01 | motive | That should work... |
| 02:41.04 | motive | I think you might've already got it |
| 02:41.18 | Sixen | I think so.. |
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| 02:49.50 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 02:54.28 | JademusSreg | Vin, maybe once I watch the video I'll have a more complete picture. But interface mods don't permit shit that affect the game. Would definitely need to be map-content. |
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| 03:05.35 | Demalii | Hi sixen, hope all is well for you these days =) |
| 03:32.12 | Sixen | Demalii! Long time no see man! |
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| 03:39.33 | Demalii | yes there's much new artwork to work with, so I am ready to work on some maps I think.. will likely see ya around man. |
| 03:40.56 | Demalii | anyways, continue your LeGaCy =p take care. |
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| 04:03.59 | Reaperguyver | ... |
| 04:04.00 | Reaperguyver | yay |
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| 04:06.30 | Kubi-CELL | Rofl did taintedwisp get banned from sc2mapster and irc |
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| 04:07.20 | Kubi-CELL | Loooool |
| 04:11.42 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:12.04 | Reaperguyver | wow lol |
| 04:12.16 | Reaperguyver | man my map does not want to add units to this unit group >.> |
| 04:12.51 | Kubi-CELL | ~seen taintedwisp |
| 04:12.52 | purl | taintedwisp <4bb55b32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.91.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2h 33m 59s ago, saying: ' What a coincidence, I have a new proposal for the gov't where we brutally beat and kill all faggots :)'. |
| 04:13.10 | Kubi-CELL | Yep that'll do it. |
| 04:14.36 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 04:16.14 | Reaperguyver | oh my map how I hate you = / |
| 04:18.42 | Reaperguyver | >.< |
| 04:20.17 | Reaperguyver | hmmmm |
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| 04:23.55 | Demalii | ? |
| 04:24.31 | Reaperguyver | I need to add units to a unit group to do somehting and the basically isn't letting me do it. |
| 04:25.55 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the code. |
| 04:27.52 | Reaperguyver | yeah |
| 04:28.06 | Reaperguyver | been trying different ways but I'll post what I have, |
| 04:29.10 | Reaperguyver | http://pastebin.com/WKF8r1fw |
| 04:37.14 | Kubi-CELL | ~seen taintedwiso |
| 04:37.16 | purl | i haven't seen 'taintedwiso', Kubi-CELL |
| 04:37.20 | Kubi-CELL | ~seen taintedwisp |
| 04:37.20 | purl | taintedwisp <4bb55b32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.91.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 2h 58m 27s ago, saying: ' What a coincidence, I have a new proposal for the gov't where we brutally beat and kill all faggots :)'. |
| 04:37.26 | Kubi-CELL | ^ lol! |
| 04:37.47 | Kubi-CELL | Got banned for that, that queer badger. |
| 04:37.48 | Kubi-CELL | Basher |
| 04:37.51 | Reaperguyver | Kubi is easily entertain by other peoples stupidity. |
| 04:37.56 | Kubi-CELL | I am |
| 04:38.04 | Reaperguyver | So am I. |
| 04:38.12 | Kubi-CELL | Humanity provides me with entertainment |
| 04:38.40 | Kubi-CELL | I found a solution to make mag mines levelable by hero |
| 04:38.49 | Kubi-CELL | Since transfer behavior sucks |
| 04:39.30 | Kubi-CELL | I wonder what mod banned him. |
| 04:40.24 | Reaperguyver | That's cool. |
| 04:40.27 | Reaperguyver | No idea. = / |
| 04:40.57 | Reaperguyver | My stupid trigger is not working for me lol |
| 04:41.08 | Kubi-CELL | Well I tell you what his map can't beat mine. He can't advertise his now haha |
| 04:41.17 | Kubi-CELL | Are bans permenant? |
| 04:41.27 | Kubi-CELL | ~seen sixen |
| 04:41.28 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (6d 4h 43m 1s) #wowuidev (6d 4h 43m 1s). Has said a total of 14 messages. Is idling for 1h 9m 16s, last said: 'Demalii! Long time no see man!'. |
| 04:41.47 | Kubi-CELL | Someone search the irc logs lol |
| 04:42.11 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 04:45.15 | Kubi-CELL | Mmm they're not updated with his ban |
| 04:47.49 | JademusSreg | Reap, the condition will always be false. |
| 04:48.51 | Reaperguyver | Even without the condition it doesn't work. |
| 04:49.07 | JademusSreg | Yeah, the rest of it is broken too. |
| 04:49.21 | Reaperguyver | but it does apply a buff that doesn't do anything like I had wanted >.> |
| 04:49.27 | JademusSreg | Let's take it from the top. What's your design? |
| 04:49.41 | Kubi-CELL | Jademus were u here taintedwisp ban? |
| 04:50.01 | Reaperguyver | Use psi storm to effect units and cause them to change owners for 4 seconds then change back. |
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| 04:50.45 | Kubi-CELL | Oh I have an ability like that but no psi storm |
| 04:50.58 | JademusSreg | I was afk during, but it was discussed among the mods after the fact to decide if it should be temp or perma-ban. |
| 04:51.22 | JademusSreg | Reap, that cna be done via data pretty easily. |
| 04:51.23 | Kubi-CELL | What was the conclusion? |
| 04:51.25 | Reaperguyver | Do you have it effect multiple units or just one? |
| 04:51.26 | JademusSreg | *can |
| 04:51.40 | JademusSreg | Actually, the random owner not so much. |
| 04:51.44 | Sixen | Kubi: I'm waiting for someone to convince me why he shouldn't be permanently banned. That's pretty much where we're at. |
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| 04:53.12 | JademusSreg | It's a toxic attitude, alienates other members of the community. |
| 04:53.13 | KubiWork | Am I online |
| 04:53.13 | KubiWork | Maybe |
| 04:53.14 | KubiWork | Well sixen |
| 04:53.18 | Reaperguyver | Yeah. I had asked a few days ago if it was doable vie data and they general cocnlusion was no. |
| 04:53.29 | KubiWork | reaper u can |
| 04:53.41 | Reaperguyver | Even with random owners? |
| 04:53.46 | KubiWork | Id tell you how and give you an example |
| 04:53.48 | KubiWork | But im at work |
| 04:53.52 | KubiWork | Random? |
| 04:53.56 | Reaperguyver | It's alright. |
| 04:53.56 | Reaperguyver | yeah |
| 04:53.57 | KubiWork | hmmmm |
| 04:54.05 | Reaperguyver | like their confused |
| 04:54.09 | KubiWork | Not sure check the behavior |
| 04:54.15 | KubiWork | Change ownership |
| 04:54.20 | Reaperguyver | I was going to have them rotate owners two or three times. |
| 04:54.24 | JademusSreg | Reap, not sure why you'd want them to be given to random owners; there are better approaches to a confused state. |
| 04:54.38 | Reaperguyver | Really? = / |
| 04:54.55 | Reaperguyver | I was looking for a confuse ability but I couldn't find one. |
| 04:56.00 | KubiWork | Sixen, we all know taintedwisp is the retardeed child of the sc2mapster community. I know he is right wing most of the time but like the slow children we don't listen to him. Taintedwisp is like a mushroom, feed him Shit and keep him in the dark |
| 04:56.43 | Sixen | hehe |
| 04:56.46 | KubiWork | Considering it is a small niche community, I do enjoy getting into head otherwise I would get bored and depressed if he's not here for me to make fun of him. |
| 04:57.04 | KubiWork | Into his head |
| 04:57.13 | Sixen | Sure, sure, I don't have any problems with him. He just has these outbursts every now and then., |
| 04:57.22 | KubiWork | Like I like to tell him his map wont be popular, and try to make him release it |
| 04:57.36 | Sixen | haha |
| 04:58.12 | KubiWork | Yes, and really nobody takes him seriously, and really doesn't get offended by him. It's kind of expected to hhear such ignorance from him. |
| 04:59.10 | KubiWork | Like if I don't hear atleast one ignorant thing from taintedwisp, I get worried about his personal well-being. |
| 05:01.28 | JademusSreg | Reap, I'll make a demo, probably tomorrow. A nice confusion effect would be to make units uncommandable and periodically apply an issue order effect to Attack or some such. |
| 05:01.59 | Reaperguyver | oh? hhmmm = / |
| 05:03.39 | Reaperguyver | that just sounds complicated. |
| 05:06.36 | Reaperguyver | and kinda silly when you could just change the owner and they'll automatically shoto each other. |
| 05:10.05 | KubiWork | So widen, I can't believe im saying this but if you make taintedwisp tempban since it is his first offense, and because I need to entertain myself making fun of him. Otherwise I might make fun of... let's say reaperguyver for his noobness |
| 05:10.22 | KubiWork | Rofl reaper you don't know to do that?! Rofl lolol |
| 05:10.29 | KubiWork | See.. its already coming out. |
| 05:10.44 | Reaperguyver | I don't know nothing and I am a noob lol. |
| 05:10.55 | Reaperguyver | Well I do know how to but getting the stupid trigger to work is hard. |
| 05:13.30 | JademusSreg | Reap, changing owners randomly is more complex and less reliable. |
| 05:15.18 | Reaperguyver | just have a ranom number 1-8 and each # equals a player and after 4 seconds seti it back to the original owner it should be simple. |
| 05:15.21 | Reaperguyver | *random |
| 05:18.10 | JademusSreg | It is simple for the -user-, but not reliable or efficient for the -system-. |
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| 05:19.01 | Ekalsion | huh. why did I get kicked earlier. |
| 05:19.15 | JademusSreg | Ask Sixen. |
| 05:20.05 | Ekalsion | Oh. Sixen went out of his way to kick me, he must be really mad about something. |
| 05:21.23 | Reaperguyver | well it might happen once or twice per round? The units are all basically cannon fodder so if the only chance is that the spell just won't work I'll deal with it being unreliable or efficient. |
| 05:24.00 | JademusSreg | If you prefer your approach because you grasp it better, that's understandable. Pretty simple to trigger. |
| 05:25.23 | Reaperguyver | I just don't like the data editor |
| 05:25.34 | Reaperguyver | everytime I try to get it to do somehting it takes like 3-4 hours to work right. |
| 05:25.42 | Reaperguyver | when it should take like 10 minutes. |
| 05:26.42 | KubiWork | widen is always mad looking, judging by the thickness of his eyebrows |
| 05:26.52 | KubiWork | See what you've done sixen |
| 05:27.22 | JademusSreg | Several approaches available. For example, have the ability's search area effect apply a behavior, trigger event for the behavior being applied, store the original owner in the unit user data, change owner. A trigger reverses the process when the behavior expires. |
| 05:27.53 | KubiWork | sixen* |
| 05:28.03 | Reaperguyver | tried that it's not registering the behavior... = / |
| 05:28.44 | JademusSreg | That's alright, probably just user error. |
| 05:29.53 | JademusSreg | TriggerAddEventUnitBehaviorChange(trigger, AnyUnit, "SomeBehavior", c_unitBehaviorChangeCreate); |
| 05:29.57 | Reaperguyver | probably. |
| 05:30.12 | Reaperguyver | I'll try it. |
| 05:30.22 | Reaperguyver | The behaviors and stuff have not been working right. |
| 05:30.33 | Reaperguyver | one of my hardened shield behavior just isn't working. |
| 05:31.03 | Reaperguyver | and my sentry force field just says error when i try to cast it. |
| 05:32.40 | JademusSreg | All of these are pretty easy to solve, but time is limited and the information provided is insufficient. |
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| 05:33.45 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 05:34.03 | Reaperguyver | well I set everything on the sentry force field back to the original setting and it still just says error... |
| 05:34.39 | Reaperguyver | I'm decent at ideas but getting them to work is not my thing. |
| 05:36.27 | JademusSreg | Given time, patience, and curiosity, you will learn. =D |
| 05:37.25 | Reaperguyver | Not curious at all. Other then wtf why you no work. |
| 05:37.43 | KubiWork | I was the same way not too long ago, like jan |
| 05:37.45 | KubiWork | Reaper |
| 05:42.49 | Reaperguyver | I just don't know why it just doesn't work everything is the same as the base and it's just liek go fuck yourself. |
| 05:44.08 | Reaperguyver | Plus my friend keeps saying he'll help but he's never around to do it lol. |
| 05:45.41 | Reaperguyver | And my other friends keep saying they'll help me test my map and also ditch out on me >.> |
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| 05:49.18 | KubiWork | Give me a second reaper ill try to help you im a sec |
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| 05:54.36 | Reaperguyver | no rush |
| 05:54.38 | Reaperguyver | playing guildwars |
| 06:06.53 | KubiWork | Same here |
| 06:06.54 | KubiWork | But reaper |
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| 06:11.05 | Reaperguyver | yes? |
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| 06:18.03 | Demalii | can you change unit name through triggers? |
| 06:20.24 | Demalii | actor message ay |
| 06:27.11 | KubiWork | Yes, but it only works for the unit type |
| 06:27.53 | KubiWork | If you want to set individual units name you'll have to make an 'overlay' dialog over the name and set it yourself. |
| 06:28.51 | Demalii | kk |
| 06:28.53 | Demalii | ty |
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| 06:42.31 | Reaperguyver | right done with my instance. |
| 06:44.51 | KubiWork | Llo |
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| 06:47.04 | Reaperguyver | anyhow.... |
| 06:47.37 | Demalii | what actor message would i be sending, assuming I am changing a ghost unit (with veterancy levels) to be a ghost with laser lines.. essentially changing the model and name of the unit only? |
| 06:47.50 | Reaperguyver | if it gives me a proper error or I can see why it breaks I'll keep trying different things until i can get it to work but when it just doesn't work or partially work without a proper reason it's irritating. |
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| 07:03.45 | KubiWork | Demailli is ghost with laser lines a seperate model? |
| 07:04.18 | KubiWork | What is the issue reaper |
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| 07:22.54 | KubiWork | I can't wait for irc logs to update so I can make taintedwisp ban my signature |
| 07:25.20 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 07:25.23 | Reaperguyver | ummm |
| 07:25.32 | Reaperguyver | I don't know where to start lol |
| 07:25.40 | Demalii | yes kubi it is.. |
| 07:25.40 | Reaperguyver | I guess I'll start with the easy one? |
| 07:26.03 | Reaperguyver | I use psi storm to give units the Hardened shields buff but it's not working properly. |
| 07:26.04 | Demalii | Basically I want the ghost to gain a level, and then the model will change, along with the name, and some stats like life, energy.. |
| 07:26.32 | Demalii | A couple things trying to accomplish here it seems heh |
| 07:30.08 | Demalii | I think i found a tutorial covering it all, except maybe applying an ability through triggers |
| 07:38.54 | KubiWork | One sec doing my rounds |
| 07:42.54 | Demalii | no worries on my blabber, my question: In an RPG scenario, a unit levels up and needs to change the model and name, maybe some stats.. but trying to keep the "unit" itself, as to keep the veterancy levels. |
| 07:43.58 | KubiWork | Denalii is it only a model swap? |
| 07:44.54 | Demalii | model + name change are the main question.. |
| 07:45.23 | Demalii | Change the model of unit say from, marine, to marine with shield, and name from marine to super marine .. |
| 07:45.47 | Demalii | keeping the unit itself.. like to keep the killscore for the unit |
| 07:46.49 | KubiWork | Use modelswap actor |
| 07:47.07 | KubiWork | Modelswap actor event message |
| 07:48.00 | KubiWork | Then you can change unit type name in triggers |
| 07:48.56 | Demalii | but, that would change the name for all those units |
| 07:49.07 | Demalii | sorry, possible to do to 1 unit, like a herop |
| 07:49.09 | Demalii | hero* |
| 07:49.29 | KubiWork | Or do the overlay method with a dialog |
| 07:49.33 | Demalii | yea |
| 07:49.50 | Demalii | possible to transfer experience points from 1 unit to another? |
| 07:50.16 | Demalii | so i could just morph and set the xp, and let the system of the game i create set all the stats and attributes? |
| 07:51.06 | KubiWork | I think so |
| 07:51.14 | Reaperguyver | could he use an ability kinda like the zergling -> baneling morph? |
| 07:51.17 | KubiWork | My phone is dying brb |
| 07:52.08 | Demalii | no, it would have to be, say a zergling using veterancy level (a hero), leveling to 10.. once that happens, it evolves into a super zergling, changing name and model |
| 07:52.35 | Demalii | just that 1 unit though |
| 07:52.42 | Demalii | because there could be other players with that unit |
| 07:53.37 | Demalii | and i believe using an ability to morph = changing to another unit |
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| 08:21.14 | Kueken | Shark |
| 08:26.54 | Reaperguyver | welcome back |
| 08:28.16 | Reaperguyver | hhmmm I wonder.... |
| 08:30.47 | Reaperguyver | nope. >.< |
| 08:31.48 | Reaperguyver | So what would prevent a behavior from acting properly? |
| 08:38.03 | Kueken | now thats a generic question with hardly any useful information whatsoever |
| 08:38.16 | Kueken | a couple million issues probably |
| 08:39.16 | Reaperguyver | meh sounds like me. |
| 08:39.27 | Reaperguyver | I basically am trying to use psi storm to apply the hardened shield buff |
| 08:39.46 | Kueken | and the hardened shield buff doesn't work? |
| 08:39.57 | Reaperguyver | when I do it with a requirement for an upgrade for a unit it works |
| 08:40.07 | Reaperguyver | when I remove the requirement and try to use psi storm is doesn't |
| 08:40.17 | Reaperguyver | *it |
| 08:41.51 | Kueken | did you try just applying it with another ability? |
| 08:42.21 | Kueken | just a simple effect-target -> apply behavior |
| 08:42.37 | Reaperguyver | not but I suppose I could. |
| 08:42.40 | Kueken | to see if the psi storm is the problem or the behavior |
| 08:42.49 | Reaperguyver | Fungal growth works the same as psi storm right? |
| 08:43.02 | Kueken | similar, not the same |
| 08:43.11 | Kueken | fg applies buff one time |
| 08:43.13 | Reaperguyver | meh close enough I think I'll look |
| 08:43.20 | Kueken | psi storm persists in the area |
| 08:43.22 | Reaperguyver | that's fine |
| 08:43.29 | Reaperguyver | I only need a 1 shot anyhow |
| 08:44.02 | Kueken | I would recommend to not use FG or Storm and modify them, just make an ability from scratch |
| 08:44.09 | Kueken | its not that hard |
| 08:44.27 | Demalii | possible to add attribute points to a character like 'Strength +5" to the hero's stats.. |
| 08:44.35 | Demalii | through trigger* |
| 08:44.45 | Kueken | only via behavior afaik |
| 08:45.20 | Kueken | as in you need to create a behavior which adds attribute points, then add that behavior to the unit |
| 08:45.36 | Demalii | aha, and this behavior will always be on? |
| 08:45.48 | Demalii | the applied behavior |
| 08:45.58 | Kueken | if you don't specify otherwise |
| 08:46.07 | Kueken | it will be lost on death, though |
| 08:46.15 | Demalii | right, ok |
| 08:46.19 | Demalii | also kueken.. |
| 08:46.25 | Kueken | so you would need to take care of that, if you use revive |
| 08:46.33 | Demalii | i understand |
| 08:46.41 | Demalii | riddle me this.. |
| 08:46.47 | Reaperguyver | I have a hard time making an ability from scratch, |
| 08:46.52 | Reaperguyver | they never end up working right. |
| 08:47.02 | Kueken | try until they do |
| 08:47.22 | Kueken | Blizzard's abilities all use a load of unneccessar crap |
| 08:47.25 | Kueken | y |
| 08:47.39 | Kueken | at least unnecessary for you |
| 08:47.39 | Demalii | changing this on independent hero, in case other players have the same hero..: @ lvl 10, change unit model and name, as to keep experience points (veteracy levels) |
| 08:47.50 | Demalii | that is a scenario |
| 08:48.27 | Kueken | model via ModelSwap actor message, name via Catalog triggers maybe? |
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| 08:49.32 | Demalii | dunno about catalog triggers, never tried? |
| 08:49.38 | Kubi-CELL | sixen is gay |
| 08:49.45 | Kubi-CELL | I wonder if he'll ban me. |
| 08:49.56 | Kueken | there are tutorials for them on mapster |
| 08:50.14 | Kubi-CELL | Catalog triggers are fun, except they're limited to the same unit per player |
| 08:50.56 | Reaperguyver | no it didn't work when i tossed it fungal growth either. |
| 08:51.14 | Kubi-CELL | what's the issue |
| 08:51.26 | Reaperguyver | it's not modifing the damage they take |
| 08:51.34 | Kubi-CELL | I plan to use triggered catalogs to calculate a unit with spell damage. |
| 08:51.39 | Reaperguyver | it says the buff is on them but it's not doing what it's supposed to be doing. |
| 08:51.44 | Kubi-CELL | Tooltip anyways |
| 08:51.54 | Kubi-CELL | Use effects to apply damage |
| 08:52.12 | Kueken | do you apply it to units without shields? |
| 08:52.25 | Reaperguyver | yup |
| 08:52.43 | Kueken | well, it only works as long as units have shields, like on the immortal |
| 08:52.45 | Reaperguyver | have it set to reduce the damage to 5 the unit has 100 shields when a unit shoots it it takes > 5 damage |
| 08:52.54 | Reaperguyver | I have it on a stalker |
| 08:53.03 | Kueken | ok |
| 08:53.08 | Reaperguyver | or zealot or really any protoss units |
| 08:53.12 | Demalii | ok, so then if I'm planning on a custom ui, I could just name the unit through that, and use modelswap for this? |
| 08:53.22 | Kueken | yes |
| 08:53.49 | Kubi-CELL | Yes |
| 08:53.57 | Kubi-CELL | This what I told you before |
| 08:54.02 | Kubi-CELL | You big thundercock |
| 08:54.04 | Demalii | i know |
| 08:54.05 | Demalii | lol |
| 08:54.07 | Demalii | but.. |
| 08:54.11 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 08:54.21 | Demalii | a simple ui overlay would still be rubbish i feel like |
| 08:54.38 | Demalii | but custom ui a lot of effort |
| 08:55.12 | Kubi-CELL | No just have the same background and same text style |
| 08:55.40 | Kubi-CELL | Kueken tainedwisp got banned |
| 08:55.57 | Kueken | yep, seen it |
| 08:56.46 | Reaperguyver | and I'm still here causing problems. |
| 08:57.31 | Kueken | if I just apply it with an effect - target, it works flawlessly |
| 08:58.22 | Kueken | so its probably the way it is applied in your psistorm or fungal |
| 08:58.35 | Kueken | just try making the ability from scratch, its not hard |
| 08:59.02 | Kueken | effect - target -> search -> apply |
| 08:59.36 | Kueken | link the effects, add a range to the ability, add an area to the search and target filters and you should be all set |
| 08:59.50 | Reaperguyver | hhmmm >.< |
| 09:00.13 | Reaperguyver | apply with effect not add behavior? |
| 09:00.27 | Kueken | ? |
| 09:00.38 | Kueken | I would use an Apply Behavior effect |
| 09:01.06 | Kueken | same things the Psistorm and Fungal Growths use |
| 09:01.06 | Reaperguyver | oh |
| 09:01.07 | Reaperguyver | derp |
| 09:01.08 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 09:01.14 | Reaperguyver | alright |
| 09:01.21 | Reaperguyver | side note as a stupid question |
| 09:01.39 | Reaperguyver | does stuff like having count as a positive effect or negative effect effect how it works? |
| 09:02.13 | Kueken | I don't think so |
| 09:03.31 | Reaperguyver | alright |
| 09:04.21 | Reaperguyver | crap |
| 09:04.32 | Reaperguyver | I guess I am going to have to try to make this by hand >.< |
| 09:05.19 | Kubi-CELL | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.22 | Kubi-CELL | Botting |
| 09:05.26 | Kubi-CELL | 45$ |
| 09:06.02 | Kubi-CELL | No just for polishing, and useful for things like dispel |
| 09:07.53 | Reaperguyver | wait how do I link the search to an effect? |
| 09:08.10 | Kueken | add a new area |
| 09:08.15 | Kueken | there is an effect field |
| 09:10.11 | Reaperguyver | ummm |
| 09:10.13 | Reaperguyver | no? |
| 09:10.36 | Kueken | in the new are you created, there is a field for effect :) |
| 09:10.39 | Reaperguyver | the only thing I can attatch an effect to is the target marker |
| 09:10.48 | Kueken | *area |
| 09:11.01 | Reaperguyver | I don't see it = / |
| 09:11.07 | Reaperguyver | I type in effect and get 1 thing |
| 09:11.25 | Kueken | >.< |
| 09:11.35 | Kueken | go to the Area field |
| 09:11.48 | Kueken | got it? |
| 09:12.04 | Reaperguyver | ummm |
| 09:12.34 | Reaperguyver | yeah |
| 09:12.35 | Reaperguyver | okay |
| 09:12.36 | Reaperguyver | got it |
| 09:12.43 | Kueken | open it |
| 09:12.51 | Kueken | should be empty |
| 09:13.01 | Kueken | correct? |
| 09:13.03 | Reaperguyver | right once I opened it I knew what to do. |
| 09:13.10 | Kueken | :) |
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| 09:16.46 | Demalii | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.12 | Reaperguyver | going to try it |
| 09:17.53 | Kueken | you probably want to use Send Actor Message to Unit, also you need to specify the model to swap to |
| 09:18.13 | Reaperguyver | it's not applying the buff now = / |
| 09:18.30 | Kueken | did you link the apply behavior effect to the buff? |
| 09:18.32 | Kubi-CELL | Poor kueken |
| 09:19.36 | Reaperguyver | yes |
| 09:19.52 | Kueken | and the ability to the search effect? |
| 09:19.59 | Reaperguyver | yes |
| 09:20.09 | Kueken | use a radius >0? |
| 09:20.14 | Reaperguyver | This is the kinda crap that makes me want to pay people to make my map lol |
| 09:21.13 | Reaperguyver | nope >.> |
| 09:21.18 | Reaperguyver | going to try again fixed that,. |
| 09:23.14 | Reaperguyver | okay |
| 09:23.20 | Reaperguyver | so it applied the behavior |
| 09:23.24 | Reaperguyver | and it's still not working right |
| 09:23.36 | Kubi-CELL | I'm worth 15$/hr for mapping worj |
| 09:24.07 | Kueken | what did you change for the Hardened Shield behavior? |
| 09:24.27 | Reaperguyver | I just want it to set the damage to 5 instead of 10 that's it. |
| 09:24.45 | Kueken | so you set the Minimum Damage and Max Clamp to 5? |
| 09:24.56 | Kueken | eh |
| 09:25.05 | Kueken | max damage and min clamp? |
| 09:25.08 | Kueken | something like that |
| 09:25.22 | Kueken | the values set to 10 in the original behavior :D |
| 09:26.17 | Reaperguyver | yes |
| 09:26.35 | Reaperguyver | I'm about to try the original behavior anyhow |
| 09:27.37 | Reaperguyver | that doesn't work either. |
| 09:27.50 | Kueken | :) |
| 09:27.57 | Kueken | it does for me |
| 09:28.25 | Reaperguyver | I think my map is emotionally unstable and needs to be redone from scratch |
| 09:28.51 | Reaperguyver | original versions of abilities and behaviors have started to break |
| 09:30.46 | Reaperguyver | okay so just reset it and change the 10 to a 5 |
| 09:31.22 | Reaperguyver | nope |
| 09:31.23 | Reaperguyver | wtf |
| 09:31.26 | Reaperguyver | stupid map |
| 09:33.07 | Kubi-CELL | Yes, keep powering through it. |
| 09:33.14 | Kubi-CELL | You will learn young one. |
| 09:36.28 | Reaperguyver | maybe |
| 09:36.51 | Reaperguyver | after this I have to do the sentry force field ability >.< |
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| 09:41.56 | Reaperguyver | ..> |
| 09:41.58 | Reaperguyver | >.> |
| 09:42.04 | Reaperguyver | even made the ability custom |
| 09:42.06 | Reaperguyver | still not working. |
| 09:42.46 | Reaperguyver | and 15$ an hour is to much lol |
| 09:46.45 | Reaperguyver | Anyhow going to head to sleep and try this some more tom. >.< |
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| 09:51.02 | Kubi-CELL | Shit |
| 09:51.11 | Kubi-CELL | Kueken give me a nova ultimate ability |
| 09:52.47 | Kubi-CELL | Idea |
| 09:53.02 | Demalii | so, a trigger sending actor msg model swap to unit, and unit's actor event with modelswap.unit#1 -> modelswap unit #2.. am I close? |
| 09:53.19 | Kueken | Energy Nova: Nova summons an Energy Clone of herself that attacks and explodes after a couple of seconds |
| 09:54.26 | Kueken | Demalii: You can send the modelswap message via trigger, no need for any actor events on the unit |
| 09:55.01 | Kueken | just send "ModelSwap Marine" or use the actor message constructs provided by the Gui |
| 09:55.13 | Kueken | replace marine with desired model ofc |
| 09:55.15 | Reaperguyver | I suppose I could just remove the three abilities that are giving me trouble but that doesn't seem very fair... |
| 09:55.31 | Demalii | all i can get it seems is send message modelswap to unit, i don't see any other fields |
| 09:55.55 | Demalii | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.03 | Demalii | sry =( |
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| 09:56.50 | Demalii | oh wait i have to click the model swap field again =/ |
| 09:56.54 | Demalii | lemme try |
| 09:56.57 | Kueken | if you select Value, then Model Swap you can selet a model and a variation |
| 09:57.18 | Kueken | same if you do it in Function |
| 09:57.25 | Kueken | but there you can use variables |
| 09:57.40 | Kueken | and you can do it in Custom Script, where you just type the string |
| 09:58.07 | Kueken | and finally you can use Convert String to Actor Message, which is basically the same as doing it in Custom Script :D |
| 09:58.32 | Demalii | i dunno string cmds |
| 09:58.42 | Demalii | so i'll have to stick with trigger for now |
| 09:58.49 | Demalii | i will try to check that out thanks |
| 09:58.56 | Reaperguyver | is it possible to have too many abilities/effects in a map? |
| 09:59.33 | Kueken | in a map? |
| 09:59.37 | Kueken | don't think so |
| 09:59.41 | Kueken | on a unit yes |
| 10:00.57 | Reaperguyver | well It's only 8 abilities on a unit so.... |
| 10:01.46 | Reaperguyver | I wonder if that's it = / |
| 10:02.07 | Demalii | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:02.23 | Demalii | rofl |
| 10:02.34 | Demalii | i should have stuck to bounds for the time being |
| 10:03.20 | Reaperguyver | is 36 too many for a unit? |
| 10:03.49 | Demalii | omg |
| 10:04.02 | Demalii | ok i gotta stop staying up this late, just overlooking too much lol |
| 10:04.02 | Demalii | night |
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| 10:05.59 | Kubi-CELL | Hey Kubi |
| 10:05.59 | Kubi-CELL | Sup bro |
| 10:06.30 | Kubi-CELL | youneed an event |
| 10:06.38 | Kubi-CELL | Like bahvior ghostbehavior.on |
| 10:06.46 | Kubi-CELL | Modelswap ghostlaserlines |
| 10:07.53 | Reaperguyver | anyhow sleep now. more bad ability making tom. |
| 10:09.08 | Kubi-CELL | Rofl now im alone. |
| 10:09.24 | Kueken | poor little kubi |
| 10:09.27 | Kubi-CELL | :( |
| 10:15.07 | Ahli | "Variables are basically death counters but cooler" who does understand that? :D |
| 10:16.09 | Kubi-CELL | I di |
| 10:16.13 | Kubi-CELL | Do |
| 10:26.42 | Kueken | very scientific |
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| 11:18.03 | gooose | how can i make sure a trigger wont execute if a unit was revived during execution? |
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| 12:37.49 | Kueken | base movespeed is without buffs |
| 12:37.51 | Bibendus | www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/gui/52064-solved-creating-a-custom-button-using-sc2layout/ |
| 12:37.54 | Bibendus | I was able to do it |
| 12:38.14 | Kueken | congratz! |
| 12:38.24 | Bibendus | for people to know |
| 12:40.58 | die2me | im hungry :( |
| 12:52.12 | Kueken | I just cooked a meal |
| 12:52.16 | Kueken | want some? |
| 12:52.28 | Bibendus | slaps Sixen around a bit with a large trout |
| 12:52.42 | Bibendus | found a bug in the forum code highlighter |
| 12:52.49 | Bibendus | <StateCount val="3" layer="0"/> |
| 12:52.52 | Bibendus | breaks the colors |
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| 13:30.29 | Bibendus | the sound section seems to work pretty well ;) |
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| 13:39.31 | Kubi | SHUT |
| 13:39.31 | Kubi | UP |
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| 13:45.28 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:45.33 | Kueken | sure, just come over and get it |
| 13:46.03 | Ahli | I've no leftovers ;( |
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| 16:10.34 | Eimtr | has anyone exp-ed any bugs when opening WoL maps from 2 months ago? |
| 16:11.10 | Eimtr | I open Loading Screen Body, picture, Unit description in the 'Editor' tab - all is blank except it somehjow still displays some text from them in the editor these appear blank |
| 16:13.32 | Eimtr | basically all text data from the maps are gone... plus Mod's text data plus even some triggers malfunction |
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| 18:48.15 | gooose | i got a m3 file that is a rectangle(diagonal) how do i modify its default facing so that, if i modify its scale to a square wont be like displaced |
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| 18:49.43 | die2me | not possible? :O |
| 18:50.17 | die2me | edit model itself easiest solution |
| 18:51.06 | gooose | its abour KorhalBuilding_02.m3 |
| 18:51.10 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.57 | die2me | penis |
| 18:54.10 | die2me | so yeah, its not really possible as far as i know to make the model facing changed and then scaling applied. |
| 18:54.31 | die2me | leave that penis alone |
| 18:58.05 | Ekalsion | How do you attach a model to an actor with data editor? (i.e. Combat Shield) |
| 18:58.11 | Ekalsion | I'm guessing with Events, but which event does it? |
| 18:58.50 | die2me | sc2mapster tutorials for sure will help you with that |
| 19:00.39 | Ekalsion | kthx |
| 19:05.19 | Kueken | Ekalsion: Combat Shields is not an attachment, though, just a different set of animations for the Marine model |
| 19:05.31 | Ekalsion | I see. |
| 19:05.47 | Ekalsion | I'm reading this tutorial and its like 10,000 lines of text to do one very basic thing. |
| 19:06.10 | Ekalsion | I mean I get the general idea, but there's so much unexplained lingo that it just makes me head explode. |
| 19:06.13 | Kueken | data attachment? |
| 19:07.13 | Kueken | new model actor, add 1 event, add 1 site operation, finished |
| 19:07.41 | Kueken | (and select the model you need of course :D) |
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| 19:09.00 | Eimtr | has smth changed as of HotS? Old triggers working with WoL when I set a unit to Unpause after an event happens and the unit is a Variable, it doesnt work |
| 19:09.41 | Eimtr | even if I reminded the variable the UNit = Unit on the map, with Set Variable = (Unit on the map) beofre unpausing it doesnt work |
| 19:10.01 | Kueken | paste the trigger |
| 19:10.07 | Eimtr | it only works if I define the unit in the variable itself without setting it trhough trigger |
| 19:10.50 | Kueken | wait, how do you define a unit in a variable without setting it through trigger? o_0 |
| 19:11.09 | Eimtr | I mean in the variable's initial value |
| 19:12.07 | Eimtr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:12.12 | Kueken | stop |
| 19:12.15 | Eimtr | nit - Any Unit Enters a distance of 0.5 from (Random Living unit from (Unit group(Medivac))) |
| 19:12.23 | Eimtr | (Unit type of (Triggering unit)) == Medivac (Pilot) |
| 19:12.25 | Kueken | copy it to pastebin please |
| 19:13.03 | Kueken | or maybe http://peeeq.de/gui.php?game=sc2 |
| 19:13.05 | Kueken | there |
| 19:13.38 | Eimtr | http://pastebin.com/sgjXVDps |
| 19:14.03 | Kueken | thanks |
| 19:14.15 | Eimtr | So initial value of Variable is No Unit, Map Init sets Unit = Medivac on the map, the event happens after that and somehow the unit does not unpause |
| 19:14.36 | Kueken | the event might not do what you expect |
| 19:15.02 | Kueken | I assume you want it to trigger for all units in your unit group? |
| 19:15.05 | Eimtr | ofc I use triggers to pause the unit when the Pilot unit is unloaded and it works but unpausing doesnt work unless the variable is set with initial value to be the medivac |
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| 19:15.44 | Eimtr | there is only 1 medivac and only 1 pilot on the map so I use unit group (unit) to save myself from all t he long texts of Unit of type in entire map excluding.. |
| 19:16.07 | Eimtr | so it's not picking up any other unit |
| 19:17.05 | Kueken | well, the event is registered at map initialization, before any triggers are executed |
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| 19:17.25 | Kueken | and it will register for the current content of the variable |
| 19:17.41 | Kueken | it won't update when the variable changes |
| 19:18.15 | Kueken | which is the reason why you cannot use the variable in the first place |
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| 19:18.18 | Eimtr | so if I set Variable = Unit on the map in Init trigger, then in another trigger it wont remember that it is set to that uniot? |
| 19:18.40 | Kueken | it will remember, but the event will already be registered |
| 19:19.22 | Eimtr | it will be registered before defining that the Variable is that unit and will do the trigger for Variable = No unit? |
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| 19:19.54 | Kueken | yes |
| 19:20.13 | Kueken | only teh event, though |
| 19:20.47 | Eimtr | so the action still remembers it is set to this unit but the event of the other trigger doesnt remember it is htat unut? |
| 19:20.48 | DeadZergling | having some logic fun Kueken? |
| 19:21.06 | Kueken | :) |
| 19:21.19 | Eimtr | okay how to make the event also remember the unit |
| 19:21.35 | Kueken | well, long story short: You are not supposed to use variables in events |
| 19:21.35 | Eimtr | or do I need to define the unit as initial value of that variable |
| 19:21.54 | Eimtr | haha i see, that's why then, yeah but when you use Unit enters distance from anotehr unit |
| 19:21.55 | Ekalsion | Do I need to put events on the actor I'm attaching models to? |
| 19:22.02 | Ekalsion | It looks like I only need events on the attachment itself |
| 19:22.10 | Eimtr | the 'anotehr unit' has to be defiend somehopw |
| 19:22.12 | Eimtr | somehow |
| 19:22.16 | Kueken | Ekalsion: Both is possible |
| 19:22.31 | Ekalsion | so theorhetically if I only put it on the attachment, it will work? |
| 19:22.36 | Eimtr | well, it did work for WoL im not kidding |
| 19:22.38 | Ekalsion | My mind is blown |
| 19:22.40 | Kueken | yes, if done correctly |
| 19:22.43 | Eimtr | now i try in hots it doesnt |
| 19:23.25 | Kueken | Eimtr: it probably registered a null unit before, which equals all units, maybe that changed? |
| 19:23.29 | Eimtr | i guess will play around with it or in the end definte the unit from the beginning, thx, so it's the event, though I can say it did work in WoL since my triggers are befopre upgrading to HotS |
| 19:23.30 | DeadZergling | heh, what are you trying to do Eimtr, is confusing to hear half the conversation, lol |
| 19:23.57 | Kueken | good point :P |
| 19:24.29 | Kueken | Eimtr: you could tell us what you want to do exactly with this trigger, there is probably a better way to realize it |
| 19:24.39 | Ekalsion | So if I'm making one attachment that attaches to dozens of unit... I'd want all the events on the attachment. |
| 19:25.03 | Kueken | you can do that |
| 19:25.19 | Ekalsion | is there an event for like... any structure is built? |
| 19:25.25 | Kueken | you also have the possibility to use the Attach message on the unit itself |
| 19:25.40 | Ekalsion | I just want to make this thing attach to every structure you build |
| 19:28.22 | Kueken | then its probably better to use the events of the attachment. You could try something like UnitBirth -> Create, then add a Term to check if its a Structure |
| 19:33.30 | DeadZergling | I dunno Eimtr, WoL to HotS didn't do anything to my triggers, I'm almost positive the order of actions got changed somehow and caused this. |
| 19:33.51 | DeadZergling | It is always good to know what a person is trying to accomplish with data/triggers though |
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| 20:58.28 | MoonEater | So..... |
| 21:00.08 | MoonEater | I added some tarsonis building units but ships looks like they are pulling a 9/11 and flying through them, how do I stop that and make them go around. I was messing with movers habit but I can't figure it out |
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| 21:47.41 | MoonEater | How do i make pathers for air units |
| 21:57.21 | Ekalsion | I'm using a trigger to move a unit, but the attachments don't move with it. What event do I need to fix this? |
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| 22:05.36 | A1win | "I'm using a vehicle to transport items but they keep falling off, how do I fix this?" |
| 22:07.05 | DeadZergling | being a smart alick A1win? lol |
| 22:08.03 | Ekalsion | So, anyone? |
| 22:08.25 | DeadZergling | I knew the answer to this one a few months ago, but I don't atm, sorry, lol |
| 22:08.27 | A1win | it seems my analogy didn't do what it was trying to |
| 22:09.55 | DeadZergling | kueken could probably answer this one in 5-10 seconds |
| 22:10.16 | DeadZergling | i just am not recalling the names of things right now ;) |
| 22:12.49 | Kueken | Kueken would need more information first :D |
| 22:13.21 | Kueken | Ekalsion: What happens if you move the unit with the move command? |
| 22:13.32 | DeadZergling | i know he probably just needs like one checkbox checked, just forgetting where and what the name is, lol |
| 22:13.36 | Ekalsion | The attached model stays where it was. |
| 22:13.59 | Ekalsion | also it's a structure I feel its worth mentioning |
| 22:14.05 | Kueken | I mean if you move it manually |
| 22:14.14 | Kueken | ah so you cannot do that |
| 22:14.50 | Kueken | do you know how to paste the xml data of your attachment? |
| 22:14.59 | A1win | what I meant by that analogy was that you didn't provide enough details: what do you mean by attachments? how are they attached and what are they attached to? how do you move the unit? |
| 22:15.21 | Ekalsion | Attached to origin |
| 22:15.21 | Kueken | I got it, A1win :p |
| 22:15.47 | Ekalsion | also changing unit height also leaves the attachment where it was |
| 22:15.58 | DeadZergling | this is why no one will ever watch your tutorials a1win :P |
| 22:16.00 | Ekalsion | I guess you can say its not actually being attached but rather just placed at the origin of the structure. |
| 22:16.09 | A1win | I don't make tutorials ;> |
| 22:16.10 | Kueken | please paste the xml data of the actor |
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| 22:16.27 | Kueken | I have some suspicions |
| 22:16.56 | Ekalsion | Kueken http://justpaste.it/2jb0 |
| 22:17.04 | A1win | actor event: unit birth -> create |
| 22:17.20 | Kueken | only the attachment would have sufficed :D |
| 22:17.25 | Kueken | what is the id? |
| 22:17.42 | Ekalsion | TowerBaseModel is the actor of the attachment |
| 22:18.22 | DeadZergling | what kind of fun you up to today anyways a1? |
| 22:21.47 | Kueken | open the Host + field, change the Subject from TowerBase to _Selectable |
| 22:22.13 | Kueken | either by clicking Custom and typing it or by using the Alias dropdown |
| 22:23.31 | Ekalsion | Done. |
| 22:23.54 | Kueken | tried it? |
| 22:24.33 | Ekalsion | Doesn't seem to work. |
| 22:25.44 | A1win | watching big bang theory |
| 22:26.08 | DeadZergling | so in other words, not getting anything done at all? |
| 22:26.35 | A1win | indeed |
| 22:26.50 | DeadZergling | yea, I'm having a load of fun going through all my old project papers |
| 22:26.58 | DeadZergling | attempting to sort them |
| 22:27.12 | DeadZergling | it would seem i have quite a lot of paper |
| 22:27.13 | Kueken | Ekalsion: works on my end |
| 22:28.11 | Kueken | which model do you attach? |
| 22:28.48 | Kueken | some models have issues following their hosts movements |
| 22:28.50 | Ekalsion | it's all there in the XML. "ProtossTarmacSplat" |
| 22:29.38 | Kueken | uh right |
| 22:29.40 | Kueken | sorry |
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| 22:31.41 | Kueken | okay, the model seems to be the problem |
| 22:31.49 | Kueken | attaching a marine works perfectly |
| 22:32.01 | Ekalsion | Hm. |
| 22:32.06 | Ekalsion | What's the work-around for this? |
| 22:33.01 | Kueken | destroy and recreate? |
| 22:34.39 | Ekalsion | :X |
| 22:35.31 | Kueken | if you know a better one, go ahead :> |
| 22:39.11 | DeadZergling | someone make the bad paper stop |
| 22:39.14 | DeadZergling | is too damn many |
| 22:46.30 | Ekalsion | there's no way to display trigger variables in a unit tooltip, is there? |
| 22:46.38 | Ekalsion | Gotta make a custom interface for that sort of thing, right? |
| 22:47.27 | A1win | 3 seasons of big bang theory in 5 days xO |
| 22:47.43 | DeadZergling | you sire are committed to procrastinating |
| 22:48.43 | DeadZergling | Well, kind of Ekalsion, what kind of information you wanting to display? |
| 22:49.48 | Ekalsion | I'm going to give random buffs to units and I'd like the tooltip to reflect those. |
| 22:50.08 | Ekalsion | but they are buffs stored only in triggers |
| 22:50.30 | Ekalsion | which will be applied when you create the unit. |
| 22:50.58 | A1win | custom tooltips are possible but not sure if you can do that with action bar buttons |
| 22:51.09 | A1win | and I don't even know how exactly to use them <.< |
| 22:51.26 | Ekalsion | don't think its possible honestly. |
| 22:51.32 | DeadZergling | tooltips are an unholy pain in the ass |
| 22:51.41 | A1win | why don't you store them in a data variable instead? |
| 22:51.59 | A1win | there's user data type too, though dunno how that works either |
| 22:52.02 | DeadZergling | How exactly are these buffs stored, applied |
| 22:52.05 | DeadZergling | I'm curious |
| 22:52.39 | Kueken | you can reference some unused data field and adjust that with catalog triggers |
| 22:52.51 | Kueken | but that will not be unit-specific, only player |
| 22:53.22 | Kueken | so if 2 units of the same type and player can get different buffs, it wouldn't work anymor |
| 22:53.23 | Kueken | e |
| 22:53.41 | DeadZergling | I'm just curious if he is making totally random buffs |
| 22:54.01 | DeadZergling | or just 20 diff ones you might get just 1 of |
| 22:54.10 | DeadZergling | would simplify it a lot possibly |
| 22:56.52 | DeadZergling | I had to go through a lot of fun pain and misery to get my dialog tooltips working the way I wanted, lol |
| 22:58.10 | Repo | New map: StarCraft: Subjection - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/starcraft-subjection/ |
| 22:58.11 | Repo | New asset: SC1 Raynor on Vulture - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/sc1-raynor-vulture/ |
| 22:58.11 | Repo | New map: Territory Contest - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/territory-contest/ |
| 22:58.19 | A1win | it should now be possible to customize tooltips with XML, there's an action to set a custom tooltip for a dialog item |
| 22:58.21 | DeadZergling | if he had like 5 diff stats his random buffs could up, say str, sta, int, dex, agi or something like that, he could just make 5 dummy data values and update those as you kind of said already |
| 22:58.25 | A1win | but I didn't figure out how it works |
| 22:58.26 | DeadZergling | not sure why that wouldn't work |
| 22:58.39 | A1win | yeah |
| 22:59.25 | Kueken | and you can hookup ui elements as dialog items, right? |
| 22:59.35 | A1win | mm |
| 22:59.39 | Kueken | that should allow tooltip modification as well |
| 23:00.15 | DeadZergling | not sure, seems like it'd be easier to just change pure number values |
| 23:00.21 | DeadZergling | and let the dref fields referenec those |
| 23:00.47 | Kueken | assuming thats applicable |
| 23:01.02 | DeadZergling | yes, we need more information Ekalsion :) |
| 23:01.20 | A1win | I need more sleep -> |
| 23:01.22 | DeadZergling | Thrilling anyways, just sorted all my damn paper, couldn't find the one piece of paper I wanted |
| 23:01.43 | DeadZergling | But who will watch Big Bang Theory nonstop then? |
| 23:01.48 | A1win | it's the topmost one, just flipped on the wrong side |
| 23:02.06 | A1win | you can take o ver |
| 23:02.07 | A1win | *over |
| 23:02.27 | A1win | anyway one season is only like 8 hours |
| 23:02.38 | A1win | so I've had time for other things during those 5 days ;p |
| 23:02.46 | A1win | like sleep |
| 23:02.47 | DeadZergling | like work? |
| 23:03.26 | DeadZergling | you must be bored if sleep is important :P |
| 23:04.03 | A1win | nah I'm just too tired to even enjoy entertainment <.< |
| 23:04.24 | DeadZergling | wtf are you doing that is making you so tired? |
| 23:04.37 | A1win | not sleeping :P |
| 23:04.57 | A1win | it's 2 in the morning |
| 23:05.45 | DeadZergling | aye, just 4 pm here, although I do sometimes stay up till 4 or 5 am |
| 23:06.07 | A1win | yeah so do I, which is why I'm tired D: |
| 23:06.48 | A1win | plus I ran out of caffeine, forgot to buy enough coke yesterday before the stores closed earlier than usual because of May Day today ;[ |
| 23:13.17 | DeadZergling | ah, never an issue for me |
| 23:13.35 | DeadZergling | granted I get all the free coffee and pop I want at microsoft |
| 23:14.47 | DeadZergling | now if only part of my job involved having access to the SC2 editor |
| 23:14.58 | DeadZergling | can't have everything :P |
| 23:31.00 | DeadZergling | So, let me get this straight a1win, you are tired, completely unproductive right now, and you are currently sitting around setting yourself up to be so again tommorrow? |
| 23:31.09 | DeadZergling | Shouldn't you like, go to freaking bed? :) |
| 23:49.00 | Kubi | Wheres our taintedwispo |
| 23:49.03 | Kubi | ~seen taintedwisp |
| 23:49.12 | purl | taintedwisp <4bb55b32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.91.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 22h 10m 19s ago, saying: ' What a coincidence, I have a new proposal for the gov't where we brutally beat and kill all faggots :)'. |
| 23:49.19 | Kubi | DeadZergling |
| 23:49.23 | Kubi | let me get this straight |
| 23:49.36 | Kubi | your tired, completely unproductive, dick in hand, masturbating while chatting on irc |
| 23:49.45 | DeadZergling | Nope, try again |
| 23:51.14 | DeadZergling | TW is banned for the time being btw, Kubi |
| 23:51.21 | DeadZergling | for just that statement, lol |
| 23:57.23 | Bibendus | http://imageshack.us/a/img28/6711/screenshot2013050121162.jpg |
| 23:57.27 | Bibendus | do you like it guys? |
| 23:58.09 | Kubi | meh |
| 23:58.10 | Kubi | its aight |
| 23:59.22 | Kubi | http://i.imgur.com/bPHDz0F.jpg |
| 23:59.25 | Kubi | do you like it guys? |
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