| 00:05.46 | Taintedwisp | hmm |
| 00:05.51 | Taintedwisp | Any modellers who can import online? |
| 00:11.40 | Taintedwisp | Well I cant finish the chicken without a new attach point being added, but I did choose it a name... |
| 00:11.59 | Taintedwisp | "10 Piece" Shall join the field of battle in Evo-Frenzy |
| 00:18.22 | Dustin | Cause he's missing two wings? |
| 00:22.45 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:23.04 | Taintedwisp | Exacto |
| 00:23.26 | Taintedwisp | I have already planned his abilities too , nothing too amazing, but all are decentthe ultimate will be cool haha |
| 00:23.44 | Taintedwisp | Hes going to spit out chickens that are on fire randomly |
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| 00:42.46 | [MH]Swiffle | anyone around, i have a noober map editor question |
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| 01:08.06 | Repo | New map: Forbidden Highlands - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/forbidden-highlands/ |
| 01:08.06 | Repo | New map: Forbidden Highlands - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/forbidden/ |
| 01:08.06 | Repo | New map: Alpha~Omega 4 player FFA unit spawning Hero - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/alphaomega/ |
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| 01:08.21 | Repo | New experimental map: Temple Island Terrain - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/temple-island-terrain/ |
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| 02:17.48 | Taintedwisp | Chicken Update |
| 02:18.00 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/iKm6Lai.jpg |
| 02:18.27 | Taintedwisp | didnt know it but the karak has an attack animation haha |
| 02:18.30 | Taintedwisp | he pecks people |
| 02:22.06 | Taintedwisp | AHAHAHAHAAHHA |
| 02:22.14 | Taintedwisp | watching his attack animation is awesome |
| 02:24.46 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Screenshot2013-04-2922_21_11_zpsf68236f6.jpg |
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| 03:09.38 | Kubi | Tainted |
| 03:09.40 | Kubi | U gaaaaaaaaay |
| 03:48.50 | JademusSreg | *Uruguay |
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| 05:38.17 | Stewox | those guys that discussed something in recent days, got a lot of defending goning on |
| 05:38.36 | Stewox | but would you think it's bad to question govts with this in mind: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/everything-is-rigged-the-biggest-financial-scandal-yet-20130425#ixzz2Ri0oRdB8 |
| 05:38.49 | Stewox | and this: http://intellihub.com/2013/04/28/12-year-old-girl-links-all-us-presidents-to-same-bloodline-but-one/ |
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| 07:18.58 | Kubi | ಠ_ಠ |
| 07:19.21 | Kubi | ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠಠ_ಠ |
| 07:21.23 | litdidmid | QQ |
| 07:21.29 | litdidmid | Qq |
| 07:21.36 | litdidmid | Q_q |
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| 07:53.41 | Demalii | Hi guys.. quick question, I have a unit I want to use, but when i play game, it just shows "Right click to move" where the command buttons normally are.. easy way to remove the "tutorial" like info? |
| 08:07.26 | Ekalsion | I was having that same exact problem, Demalii. |
| 08:09.09 | Ekalsion | I never figured out how to fix it, it just kind of resolved itself honestly. |
| 08:15.19 | Demalii | well I figured I'd just make a new unit/actor and use the model |
| 08:15.32 | Demalii | so it's all good, thanks haha |
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| 08:35.40 | JademusSreg | Simple. |
| 08:36.10 | JademusSreg | It's in your game options. Show Idiotically Simple Command Card option. |
| 08:36.36 | JademusSreg | Can also use an override on a per-map basis. |
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| 08:40.44 | Demalii | ? |
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| 08:46.58 | Taintedwisp | Here Kueken this is where I stopped on the chicken gunna finish it tomorrow |
| 08:47.03 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain123_zpsaec3d9ae.jpg |
| 08:48.07 | Kueken | :D |
| 08:49.08 | Taintedwisp | its awesome because the chicken has an attack animation TO!!!! |
| 08:49.11 | Taintedwisp | he pecks people |
| 08:49.17 | Taintedwisp | Very fast |
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| 09:28.10 | Kueken | JademusSreg: How would I access the portrait actor of a unit via trigger? |
| 09:31.18 | litdidmid | Pacific rim.... BULLSHIT! |
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| 09:50.06 | Taintedwisp | Why you hating on pacific Rim? |
| 09:50.18 | Taintedwisp | That movie looks like it will be decent, I havent seen a good monster movie in years |
| 09:51.20 | litdidmid | most averange that you can get. |
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| 09:56.57 | Taintedwisp | Average? |
| 09:57.01 | Taintedwisp | where do you come from? |
| 09:57.19 | Taintedwisp | There hasnt been any giant monster/giant robot movies in over 6 years.. |
| 09:57.24 | Taintedwisp | I would HARDLY call that average |
| 09:57.52 | Taintedwisp | other then its premise theres NOTHING you can base off a trailer -_- |
| 09:59.04 | Taintedwisp | I have no doubt it will be good |
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| 09:59.16 | Taintedwisp | The screenplay writer, and director has done nothing but good stuff... |
| 09:59.19 | Taintedwisp | well atleast decent stuff |
| 09:59.28 | Taintedwisp | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0868219/?ref_=tt_ov_dr |
| 10:01.32 | Taintedwisp | I dont see the issue litdidmid, Really, the director has done nothing but really good stuff, both writing and directing? if he says he can make a giant robot movie then hell why not :) |
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| 11:16.28 | Kueken | xD |
| 11:16.50 | Kueken | you cannot check for 2 statuses in actor event terms? |
| 11:18.17 | reaperguyver | I don't know. |
| 11:18.39 | reaperguyver | I'm trying to figure out how to make this trigger accept a group of units as a target instead of one. |
| 11:19.06 | Kueken | loop a unit group? |
| 11:19.20 | reaperguyver | or have a behavior being given to a unit as an event I can modify to use as an action to put units in a group. |
| 11:19.31 | reaperguyver | The issue is putting th eunits in the group. |
| 11:19.56 | reaperguyver | like I'm using psi storm as a base for the ability but I can't say targets of psi storm get shoved into unit group x |
| 11:21.47 | Kueken | well you could pick all units in the area, which have the psi storm behavior |
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| 11:35.13 | Ahli | caster -> persistent -> persistent -> launch -> damage does not update the caster's damage behaviors =/ |
| 11:39.16 | reaperguyver | ? |
| 11:39.21 | reaperguyver | I'll see if i can do that, |
| 11:41.29 | reaperguyver | oh |
| 11:41.30 | reaperguyver | right |
| 11:41.34 | reaperguyver | pick all... got it. |
| 11:41.56 | Kueken | hm |
| 11:42.16 | Kueken | when I send an actor message from the portrait actor to itself, it is permanent |
| 11:42.43 | Kueken | but when I send it from the unit actor to the portrait actor, it only works until you re-select the unit |
| 11:43.07 | reaperguyver | nope lol |
| 11:43.15 | reaperguyver | odd. |
| 11:43.25 | reaperguyver | I'm half asleep I'll have to work on this tom. |
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| 12:20.35 | Kubi__ | MAH EYES HAVE SEEN THE GLORY |
| 12:20.41 | Kubi__ | AT THE TRAMPLLIN' AT THE ZOO |
| 12:21.07 | Kubi__ | WE WASHED OUR SELVES IN TAINTEDWISP'S BLOOD AND ALL THE MONGROLS TOO |
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| 12:27.37 | Kubi__ | CHEESE AND CRACKER |
| 12:27.42 | Kubi__ | CHEESE AND HAM |
| 12:27.50 | Kubi__ | IN BETWEEN TWO CRACKERS |
| 12:38.35 | Kubi__ | wtf i just saw kuekens somersault map |
| 12:41.43 | Ahli | what was the actor event with movement starting? |
| 12:42.13 | Kueken | UnitMovementUpdate.*.start |
| 12:42.16 | Kueken | or something |
| 12:42.18 | Ahli | unit movement update, yes |
| 12:42.27 | Kubi__ | KUKEN |
| 12:42.29 | Kubi__ | SUMERSAULT |
| 12:42.30 | Kubi__ | GO |
| 12:42.34 | Kueken | ? |
| 12:42.37 | Kubi__ | SUMERSAULT |
| 12:42.38 | Kubi__ | GO |
| 12:42.39 | Kueken | what do you want to know? |
| 12:42.46 | Kubi__ | Nothing |
| 12:42.49 | Kubi__ | I thought it was impressive |
| 12:42.50 | Kubi__ | lol |
| 12:42.51 | Kubi__ | I was like |
| 12:42.52 | Kubi__ | U CANT DO THAT |
| 12:42.56 | Kubi__ | U NEED 3D MAX |
| 12:43.01 | Kubi__ | you proved me wrong though |
| 12:43.28 | Kueken | I though that as well, I didn't think it would look any good |
| 12:44.04 | Kubi__ | well with the flail animation it was pretty good |
| 12:44.36 | Kueken | yes, without that it looks pretty crappy actually :D |
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| 13:11.56 | Kubi__ | What should I name my Rory Swann shotgun ability |
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| 13:42.54 | Vindicator | Question: I've got two abilities that are learnable. When I learn one, via triggers I tell it to level the other one as well. This happens, but the ability learned via triggers doesn't work. Is this a bug? |
| 13:43.24 | Vindicator | When I click the level up ability button the trigger leveled ability is represented as being learned successfully there too and it shows the next level available.. |
| 13:49.41 | Kueken | how do you tell it to learn? |
| 13:50.14 | Kueken | also if you level it manually, does it work? |
| 13:52.06 | Vindicator | ya manually it works |
| 13:52.47 | Vindicator | and to learn/level it i use the trigger "Add 1 level" to the ability, and when i click the learn ability button again it shows level 1 was learned, but it doesn't appear on my command card |
| 13:53.13 | Kueken | try Issue Order to use the learn ability instead |
| 13:53.19 | Vindicator | ok |
| 13:54.12 | Vindicator | *high five* nice nice it worked |
| 13:54.16 | Vindicator | ty ty |
| 13:54.35 | Vindicator | wellll |
| 13:54.52 | Vindicator | wait, it uses a level up point then, i'm trying to do it without spending a point =/ |
| 13:55.43 | Vindicator | if i make it free and hide the free one from the command card, will the command still exist? |
| 13:56.50 | Vindicator | it looks like it, kk i'm all good ty |
| 13:57.57 | Kueken | yes, it should |
| 14:09.28 | Dustin | Suuup |
| 14:10.29 | Kubi__ | What should I call my Rory Swann shotgun ability |
| 14:12.07 | Vindicator | Dwarven Blast |
| 14:12.23 | Kubi__ | "Dwarven Blast" lol |
| 14:12.27 | Kubi__ | Make it with Quotes |
| 14:12.41 | Kueken | considering his turret is called Flaming Betty, you could call it Perforating Peggy |
| 14:12.51 | Kubi__ | LOL |
| 14:13.12 | Kubi__ | You win Kueken |
| 14:13.15 | Kubi__ | I'm totally using it |
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| 14:23.35 | Kubi__ | Hehe |
| 14:23.42 | Kubi__ | now I added phyiscs force to the shotgun |
| 14:23.44 | Kubi__ | BLAST EM |
| 14:24.11 | ckSynergy | well this is interesting |
| 14:24.37 | ckSynergy | found a mathematical discrepancy while working on veterancy behaviors |
| 14:25.39 | Kubi__ | WUT IS IT |
| 14:25.48 | ckSynergy | Im trying to think how to word it |
| 14:25.55 | ckSynergy | basically, the functions are simple enough |
| 14:26.12 | ckSynergy | Unit gains level, store a int to a variable, then catalog field modify the behavior |
| 14:26.18 | ckSynergy | very very basic |
| 14:26.36 | ckSynergy | but when I do the math 0.003 * level(var real) |
| 14:26.45 | ckSynergy | it works fine till it hits level 7 |
| 14:26.48 | Kubi__ | yep |
| 14:26.50 | Kubi__ | i already know that |
| 14:26.55 | Kubi__ | sucks |
| 14:26.56 | ckSynergy | at level 7, it only increases by 0.002 |
| 14:27.10 | ckSynergy | you know about that bug? |
| 14:27.19 | Kubi__ | I use unit gains level |
| 14:27.25 | Kubi__ | and it stops working after 6-7 |
| 14:27.31 | Kueken | SC2 can only handle intervals of 1/4096 |
| 14:27.39 | Kubi__ | because I use it to apply level behavior to the unit |
| 14:27.40 | Kueken | thats probably your issue |
| 14:27.43 | ckSynergy | I use unit gains experience |
| 14:27.52 | ckSynergy | and like I said, I store the "level" to a variable |
| 14:28.01 | ckSynergy | the level variable works correctly |
| 14:28.08 | ckSynergy | displays 1-20x |
| 14:28.23 | ckSynergy | its when I do the actual math with it that it funks up |
| 14:28.46 | ckSynergy | So in essence, its the actual calculations, not the veterancy behavior |
| 14:29.01 | ckSynergy | basically |
| 14:29.30 | ckSynergy | 7.0 * 0.003 returns 0.02, not the correct 0.021 |
| 14:29.56 | Kueken | your 0.003 internally is rounded to the next multiple of 1/4096 |
| 14:30.06 | ckSynergy | Its not the 0.003 |
| 14:30.18 | Kueken | which would probably be ~0.00293 |
| 14:30.27 | ckSynergy | 1-6 works fine, Id say its variable works fine up to 6.9 ish |
| 14:30.36 | ckSynergy | at which point it then increases by the flat amount |
| 14:30.57 | ckSynergy | so 1,2,3,4,5,6, 6.9 ,7.9, 7.9, 8.9, 9.9 etc |
| 14:31.17 | ckSynergy | or something odd like that |
| 14:31.54 | Kubi__ | BRING IT BLIZZARDS ATTENTION |
| 14:32.05 | Kubi__ | I say |
| 14:32.11 | ckSynergy | the numbers returned are in 0.003 intervals EXCEPT at level 7, at which point it returns 0.002 |
| 14:32.11 | Kubi__ | store the exp for level values in trigger |
| 14:32.13 | Kubi__ | and compare to that |
| 14:32.22 | ckSynergy | Kubi: I just said I already did that |
| 14:32.26 | Kubi__ | Fine |
| 14:32.28 | Kubi__ | fuck you |
| 14:32.28 | Kubi__ | homo |
| 14:32.31 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 14:32.51 | ckSynergy | Just kinda throwing it out there. Its interesting |
| 14:33.07 | Kueken | exactly, 7.0 * 0.00293 is very close to 0.0205, which probably gets rounded again |
| 14:33.32 | Kubi__ | So how do we combat this for leveling our hero |
| 14:33.59 | Kueken | multiply both sides of the equasion with 4096 :D |
| 14:35.27 | Kubi__ | WUT |
| 14:35.55 | Kubi__ | What you working on ckSynergy |
| 14:41.18 | ckSynergy | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8728553673#1 |
| 14:41.41 | ckSynergy | ummm, I dont have an issue with leveling my hero |
| 14:41.50 | ckSynergy | I'm saying the actual real calculations are screwball |
| 14:42.11 | ckSynergy | and its linear, so its easily identified |
| 14:42.17 | ckSynergy | the results I get are as follows |
| 14:43.24 | Kubi__ | This this why unit gain level trigger no work after 6? |
| 14:43.32 | Demalii | Is it possible to have 1 unit, use 2 weapons at the same time? like a colossus with stalker weapons |
| 14:43.40 | Kubi__ | yes |
| 14:44.18 | ckSynergy | 0.003, 0.006, 0.009, 0.012, 0.015, 0.018, 40.021, 0.023, 0.026, 0.029, 0.032 ... (@20) 40.058 |
| 14:44.35 | ckSynergy | notice the 0.02 and the 0.058 |
| 14:45.21 | Kueken | still consistent with the 1/4096 issue :) |
| 14:46.37 | Demalii | best i can get colossus shooting both at same time, but seems the (none) turret selection for stalker weapon breaks, and it will only shoot in 1 direction |
| 14:46.49 | Kubi__ | When you set two weapons |
| 14:46.53 | Kubi__ | you have to tell which one fires |
| 14:46.55 | Kubi__ | by ranges |
| 14:46.59 | Kubi__ | if you dont want to do it by ranges |
| 14:47.02 | Kubi__ | you have to disable each one |
| 14:47.05 | Kubi__ | for the one you want tshoot |
| 14:47.09 | Kubi__ | OR |
| 14:47.12 | Kubi__ | Search filters |
| 14:47.28 | ckSynergy | So how do you correct the math? lol |
| 14:47.33 | Demalii | ok ty |
| 14:47.48 | Kubi__ | you cant have two fire at the same time |
| 14:47.48 | Kueken | if you can, don't use numbers that small |
| 14:48.00 | Kueken | Kubi: yes you can |
| 14:48.13 | Demalii | search filters wouldn't allow the stalker weapon to shoot while channeling colossus weapon? |
| 14:48.42 | ckSynergy | yea not exactly a solution. but oh well, just thought Id bring it up |
| 14:49.07 | Kueken | well, its an engine limit, so there is no other solution |
| 14:49.23 | Kubi__ | SIGNED INTEGERS BRO |
| 14:49.44 | Kubi__ | CALLED MEMEORY EFFICENCY |
| 14:49.48 | Kubi__ | OPTIMIZATION |
| 14:50.51 | JademusSreg | Favorite SC2 technical issue: fixed point type limits. <3 |
| 14:51.20 | Kueken | JademusSreg: How would I access the portrait actor of a unit via trigger? |
| 14:51.30 | Kueken | and... hi |
| 14:51.55 | Kubi__ | its not integer |
| 14:51.56 | Kubi__ | its a point |
| 14:51.56 | Kubi__ | lol |
| 14:52.00 | Kubi__ | FLOAT |
| 14:52.12 | Kubi__ | well that was easy |
| 14:52.21 | Kubi__ | made a shot gun with awesome effects and physics applies |
| 14:52.28 | Kubi__ | and blood mists |
| 14:52.38 | Kubi__ | cant forget the blood mists, feels so satisfying to use it |
| 14:52.41 | JademusSreg | Same way the unit actor does. See the Spectre, Banshee, Wraith, or Civilian/Colonist unit actors for reference. |
| 14:53.09 | JademusSreg | They send messages to their portraits, so it's simply an issue of getting the correct reference. |
| 14:53.39 | Kueken | that thing is pretty cool, I played around with it quite a bit |
| 14:53.50 | Kueken | it doesn't seem to reference the portrait actor |
| 14:54.11 | Kueken | but instead some actor that is based on the portrait actor |
| 14:54.15 | Kueken | ... |
| 14:54.18 | JademusSreg | Should be specified in their Target field. |
| 14:54.21 | Kueken | how do I explain |
| 14:54.35 | JademusSreg | Ah, perhaps I misunderstood. |
| 14:54.40 | Kueken | when I use a message in the portrait actor itself |
| 14:54.47 | Kueken | for example tint |
| 14:55.00 | Kueken | it will affect the portrait forever, it will remain tinted |
| 14:55.12 | Kueken | when I send it from the main unit actor to the reference |
| 14:55.25 | Kueken | it will only stay tinted as long as I select the unit |
| 14:55.45 | JademusSreg | Interesting. Makes sense, though. |
| 14:55.53 | Kueken | also, another interesting thing |
| 14:56.12 | Kueken | the reference seems to be global or at least player-specific |
| 14:56.28 | Kueken | I had 2 units of the same type for different players |
| 14:56.47 | Kueken | each one sending different messages to the reference |
| 14:57.04 | Kueken | and I selected my own unit, but it would get the message of the other unit |
| 14:57.09 | JademusSreg | By sending it through the unit actor, it sends its message to the Model in the Portrait. Sending the message to the Portrait actor has the persistence because all models it hosts inherits the property from it. |
| 14:57.23 | JademusSreg | But change in selection changes the model actor, so it's a new actor. |
| 14:57.34 | JademusSreg | So yeah, makes sense you'd get those results. |
| 14:57.57 | Kueken | also, I couldn't reference either of them in triggers at all |
| 14:58.06 | JademusSreg | Well, that last part is odd. |
| 14:58.08 | Kueken | neither the base portrait actor, nor the reference |
| 14:58.44 | Kubi__ | I should name my map |
| 14:58.47 | Kubi__ | Zealot Frenzy Evolved |
| 14:58.51 | Kubi__ | Just to piss incinerate off |
| 14:59.00 | JademusSreg | This suggests to me (don't have the editor open atm) that it's probably host versus supporter shenanigans. |
| 14:59.01 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 14:59.08 | Kubi__ | WHAT DO U THINK JADEMUSSREG |
| 14:59.09 | Kubi__ | DONT YOU LEAVE ME |
| 14:59.32 | JademusSreg | (Gonna take a dignified piss in the lavatory.) |
| 15:01.40 | Kubi__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmvcG8mD3Y |
| 15:01.42 | Kubi__ | There you go |
| 15:01.43 | Kubi__ | Kueken |
| 15:02.41 | Kueken | :) |
| 15:02.47 | Kubi__ | Looks good yes? |
| 15:02.56 | Kueken | need to set your physics settings to extreme, though |
| 15:03.13 | Kubi__ | THERES A DIFFERENCE? |
| 15:03.31 | Kueken | moar flying corpses |
| 15:03.53 | Kueken | each setting supports a certain number of simultaneous ragdolls on the screen |
| 15:03.58 | Kubi__ | my map has almost every ability with physics |
| 15:04.36 | Kubi__ | One ultimate is huge boulders falling from the sky |
| 15:04.39 | Kubi__ | hilarious results |
| 15:04.42 | Kueken | also you can setup units death settings to always use physics teah :D |
| 15:04.46 | Kubi__ | Yeah |
| 15:04.47 | Kubi__ | macro events |
| 15:04.48 | Kueken | *death |
| 15:04.50 | Kubi__ | did that |
| 15:05.10 | Kueken | no, I mean the Custom Death Data field |
| 15:05.13 | Kueken | or something |
| 15:05.25 | Kubi__ | Can you weight the chances? |
| 15:05.34 | Kubi__ | I like the death models too but I dont want everything to turn ragdoll |
| 15:05.37 | Kubi__ | but i'd say 60% |
| 15:05.50 | Kueken | Death Custom Data + |
| 15:06.05 | Kubi__ | Shit |
| 15:06.07 | Kueken | default is 50% I think |
| 15:06.10 | Kubi__ | the effect is coming from the wrong weapon |
| 15:06.44 | Kueken | well, it varies |
| 15:07.22 | Kubi__ | Custom sound |
| 15:07.23 | Kubi__ | physics |
| 15:07.24 | Kubi__ | ooo! |
| 15:07.28 | Kubi__ | I can't even wait to play my own map |
| 15:07.59 | Kueken | anyway, if you put 100% for custom data and use extreme physics settings, literally everything should go ragdoll |
| 15:08.37 | Kueken | brb |
| 15:08.45 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 15:09.19 | Kubi__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmvcG8mD3Y |
| 15:09.25 | Kubi__ | check it jade |
| 15:09.29 | JademusSreg | Anyway, what's the design Kueken? |
| 15:09.32 | JademusSreg | Alright, Kub. |
| 15:09.34 | Kubi__ | ^- |
| 15:09.37 | Kubi__ | He was talking abuot that |
| 15:10.32 | Vindicator | nice nice |
| 15:10.43 | Kubi__ | Man ragdoll physics |
| 15:10.44 | Kubi__ | make this game |
| 15:10.46 | Kubi__ | soo much better |
| 15:11.05 | Kubi__ | lol guys sliding on the ground |
| 15:11.30 | Kubi__ | thats why my arena zones have a lot of holes and cliffs in them |
| 15:11.35 | Kubi__ | so you can wait your foes plunge |
| 15:11.37 | JademusSreg | Too bad it's asynchronous. Physics-based unit movement would have fun potential. |
| 15:11.49 | Kubi__ | well yeah but its eye candy for the player |
| 15:11.50 | Kubi__ | because face it |
| 15:11.52 | Kubi__ | we love physics |
| 15:12.51 | JademusSreg | And physics absolutely are in WoL, but the asset support is limited. Swarm uses tons of extra models just so they can support the physics. |
| 15:13.02 | Kubi__ | yeah I know |
| 15:13.05 | Kubi__ | We need more radgoll physics |
| 15:13.09 | Kubi__ | RAGDOLL MODELS |
| 15:13.16 | Kubi__ | FOR ALL THE UNITS! |
| 15:14.02 | Kubi__ | Now I am going to add a behavior to stun them |
| 15:14.06 | Kubi__ | and use CritterWander on them |
| 15:14.10 | Kubi__ | so they wonder around for a bit |
| 15:14.13 | Kubi__ | not stun |
| 15:14.15 | Kubi__ | uncommandable |
| 15:14.35 | JademusSreg | But WoL has a limited number of physics-supporting models, hard-bodies only, iirc. Though the civilian death model may be the exception. I vaguely remember crushing Civilians with Odin on Korhal and being amused as it moved them and street debris around. |
| 15:14.54 | Kubi__ | Yeah |
| 15:14.59 | Kubi__ | and we need more radgoll doodads |
| 15:15.18 | Kubi__ | Hey |
| 15:15.21 | Kubi__ | what makes |
| 15:15.25 | Kubi__ | Thors move Physic Doodads |
| 15:15.41 | Kubi__ | Or units in general move physic doodads |
| 15:16.12 | JademusSreg | Well, that was before the Force actors were implemented, so I'm guessing Odin supported a simple hard-body physics volume. |
| 15:16.41 | Kubi__ | So you're saying its model bound only/ |
| 15:17.54 | JademusSreg | Yeah, in that particular case. Force actors can be used to apply force to model assets which support physics, otherwise physics hard-bodies interact with one another. |
| 15:18.16 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure the force actors use model assets for their volumes as well. |
| 15:18.36 | JademusSreg | But they're not simple hardbodies. |
| 15:18.49 | Kubi__ | Boo |
| 15:18.59 | Kubi__ | I wanted every unit to beable to move dead bodies around or doodad physics |
| 15:20.35 | JademusSreg | Attach a force actor to it. |
| 15:20.41 | JademusSreg | Simple sphere should suffice. |
| 15:21.06 | Kubi__ | Eh that'll come later than |
| 15:21.13 | Kubi__ | Gotta get rest of the heroes abilities finished |
| 15:21.56 | Kubi__ | lol |
| 15:22.04 | Kubi__ | I think I should rename to Zealot Frenzy Evolved |
| 15:24.10 | JademusSreg | Risky maneuver, insofar as the fuzzy rules regarding map names. Would suck if the other guy could take it down with a complaint. |
| 15:24.37 | Kubi__ | Whats the ToS for map names |
| 15:24.51 | Kubi__ | The only map I've seen taken down |
| 15:24.57 | JademusSreg | Hell if I know. |
| 15:24.57 | Kubi__ | was having racists/offensive words in them |
| 15:24.59 | Kubi__ | that's about it |
| 15:25.11 | Kubi__ | It's against the ToS to prevent players from playing the game, anyone. |
| 15:25.20 | Kubi__ | So banning system technically can take down your map |
| 15:32.54 | Kubi__ | There added a disorient effect with wander behavior |
| 15:34.12 | Kubi__ | http://i.imgur.com/yS6ur05h.jpg |
| 15:34.14 | Kubi__ | WANT TO FIGHT ME |
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| 15:36.32 | Kubi__ | You know whats funny |
| 15:36.45 | Kubi__ | ckSynergy posted his thread in the wrong forum |
| 15:39.09 | Vindicator | http://i.imgur.com/JgtSpPM.gif |
| 15:39.49 | Kubi__ | Vindicator |
| 15:39.51 | Kubi__ | make me abilities |
| 15:39.51 | Kubi__ | go |
| 15:44.22 | Kubi__ | I assume you cant stun a unit and make it wander |
| 15:44.23 | Kubi__ | egg |
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| 16:01.47 | Kueken1 | JademusSreg: The design for what I would need the portrait actor of a unit? |
| 16:02.29 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 16:02.51 | Kubi__ | WHO ARE U KUEKEN1 |
| 16:02.52 | Kubi__ | YOU IMPOSTER |
| 16:02.57 | Kubi__ | YOU CAN NEVER BE THE GREAT KUKENE |
| 16:03.49 | Kueken1 | basically, it was about getting team-colored unit portraits |
| 16:04.07 | Kubi__ | WHAT |
| 16:04.10 | Kubi__ | THE FUCK DID I JUST SAY |
| 16:04.13 | Kueken1 | anything else you would need to know about that? |
| 16:04.24 | Kubi__ | oh kueken |
| 16:04.29 | Kubi__ | Im using your tentacle impale ability |
| 16:04.35 | Kubi__ | for my festor hero |
| 16:04.41 | Kubi__ | then using that infested bunker unit for the ultimate |
| 16:04.43 | JademusSreg | Sounds like something the unit actor can handle on its own. |
| 16:04.46 | Kueken | go ahead if it still works |
| 16:04.59 | Kubi__ | it does |
| 16:06.35 | Kubi__ | Hey Jade |
| 16:06.38 | Kubi__ | Whats the infested bunker unit |
| 16:06.40 | Kubi__ | called |
| 16:07.26 | JademusSreg | I forget the path, but should be easy to find in the asset browser. |
| 16:07.38 | Kubi__ | found it |
| 16:07.40 | Kueken | it is in the assets now? |
| 16:07.50 | JademusSreg | Has been for a long time. |
| 16:09.46 | Kubi__ | Badass model |
| 16:10.03 | Kubi__ | And has all the attachment points |
| 16:10.05 | Kubi__ | sweet |
| 16:10.42 | Kueken | is the mrph animation there too? |
| 16:10.46 | Kueken | *morph |
| 16:11.01 | Kubi__ | No |
| 16:11.02 | Kubi__ | Wait |
| 16:11.03 | Kubi__ | idk |
| 16:11.07 | Kubi__ | ts not on the model itself |
| 16:11.34 | JademusSreg | First custom terrain texture test complete. Mixed results, but nice enough. |
| 16:11.52 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure it is. Birth, probably. |
| 16:12.15 | Kueken | definitely not on the model |
| 16:12.32 | Kueken | but the other morph animations are separate models usually as well |
| 16:15.58 | Kueken | (18:04:45) JademusSreg: Sounds like something the unit actor can handle on its own. |
| 16:16.05 | Kueken | care to elaborate on that? |
| 16:16.55 | Kueken | or is this more of a wishful thinking thing |
| 16:17.37 | Kueken | all I got until now is another really whacky workaround :D |
| 16:17.48 | JademusSreg | Well, the unit actor can tint its model actor for the portrait, so it's not an issue that the tint is gone on reselection, as that would be desirable behavior. |
| 16:20.00 | JademusSreg | Or better yet, composite portrait. |
| 16:21.10 | JademusSreg | Combine the model with a hero glow model, make sure it gets its team color from host and not the supporter. |
| 16:27.10 | JademusSreg | (The campaign makes use of composite portraits.) |
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| 16:42.48 | Kueken | alright never heard of it |
| 16:43.03 | Kueken | something new to play around with |
| 17:20.18 | Ahli | hmm, is there a way to put a validator into a requirement somehow? |
| 17:21.08 | Ahli | oh, not required :D |
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| 17:39.47 | mille25 | hi |
| 17:40.33 | Kueken | hey |
| 17:43.26 | RipperRoo | ho |
| 17:44.23 | Vindicator | heya |
| 17:47.36 | Kubi__ | bunchahomos |
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| 18:00.27 | Kubi__ | Hello? |
| 18:01.00 | Kueken | yeah thats about all we said in the past 20 minutes |
| 18:02.34 | Kubi__ | :O |
| 18:02.58 | Kubi__ | I should learn XML data editor |
| 18:08.23 | JademusSreg | Pretty simple stuff. |
| 18:10.10 | JademusSreg | Handy for copypasta and implementing proper token types. |
| 18:11.30 | JademusSreg | And sometimes for quickly identifying content, at least in how it differs from its parent. |
| 18:12.15 | Kubi__ | I understand it |
| 18:12.18 | Kubi__ | I just have to commit to it |
| 18:13.46 | Kubi__ | I should ditch the whole prefix and suffix |
| 18:13.55 | Kubi__ | and naming my data |
| 18:14.01 | Kubi__ | save me so much time |
| 18:14.01 | Kubi__ | lol |
| 18:14.16 | Kubi__ | I think thats what slowing the editor down |
| 18:16.56 | Kubi__ | Well that crashed my editor |
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| 18:23.15 | Kubi__ | PRENCHER |
| 18:24.10 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 18:26.23 | Kubi__ | What |
| 18:26.24 | Kubi__ | :O |
| 18:29.23 | Kubi__ | Asshole Jademus |
| 18:29.34 | Kubi__ | Yeah, go for it, use XML |
| 18:29.38 | Kubi__ | crah your edito lololol |
| 18:31.13 | Kueken | yeah, why not? |
| 18:31.19 | Kueken | its good fun once in a while |
| 18:32.49 | Kubi__ | Kueeken |
| 18:32.54 | Kubi__ | Should I name my map |
| 18:33.00 | Kubi__ | Zealot Frenzy Evolved |
| 18:33.03 | Kubi__ | I mean ckSyenergy did it |
| 18:33.07 | Kubi__ | Except 3X |
| 18:33.53 | Kueken | no idea |
| 18:33.56 | Kueken | do as you must |
| 18:34.33 | Kubi__ | lol |
| 18:34.35 | Kubi__ | Kueken |
| 18:34.37 | Kubi__ | What you doing |
| 18:35.04 | Kueken | right now? |
| 18:35.13 | Kueken | play pokemon :> |
| 18:35.31 | Kubi__ | Where |
| 18:36.38 | Kubi__ | It appears Rory Swann name was going to be Dutch |
| 18:36.47 | Kueken | yep |
| 18:37.36 | JademusSreg | I don't often crash my editor while using XML. |
| 18:38.30 | Kubi__ | But when you do, you didn't save. |
| 18:38.37 | Kueken | I did it today, when playing around with the portraits :D |
| 18:38.39 | JademusSreg | Hell, been XML editing since before the editor was released, so it's not something I'd say I could "go for". |
| 18:39.02 | Kubi__ | I like tables better |
| 18:39.12 | JademusSreg | I use it so frequently it's mundane, that is to say. |
| 18:41.05 | Kubi__ | Jademus |
| 18:41.11 | Kubi__ | I need a defensive rory swann ability |
| 18:41.24 | JademusSreg | Switch between table and xml views, as the situation requires. I mean, who wants to copy individual actor events manually? Most often, it helps identify all the bullshit data I can delete. |
| 18:41.25 | Kubi__ | I have the shotgun, a summonable(damage), need something defensive |
| 18:41.27 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 18:41.49 | JademusSreg | Tell me about the first two. |
| 18:41.54 | JademusSreg | And the ultimate. |
| 18:42.21 | Kubi__ | Shotgun deals high damage in a short range cone, movement speed to 70% |
| 18:42.33 | Kubi__ | Summonable will be the rocket turret dealio |
| 18:42.34 | JademusSreg | I have a few ideas, but context helps. |
| 18:42.39 | Kubi__ | Ultimate is the Drakken Laser |
| 18:43.26 | JademusSreg | percolates. |
| 18:43.38 | Kueken | googles |
| 18:44.18 | Kueken | hm |
| 18:44.47 | Kubi__ | Drakken Laser as an ultimate is fun |
| 18:44.48 | Kueken | judging from the translation, it doesn't really make sense to use that word on its own |
| 18:44.50 | Kubi__ | suppose to be a hero killer |
| 18:45.15 | Kubi__ | since it has a slow turret they can dodge it quite simply |
| 18:45.17 | Kubi__ | but |
| 18:45.25 | Kubi__ | you can definately snag some hero(s) |
| 18:46.15 | JademusSreg | Kueken, it's slightly idiomatic in its use. Processing tea or coffee with boiling water and its analogical value. |
| 18:46.25 | JademusSreg | Kubi, prepare for incoming list. |
| 18:46.29 | Kubi__ | k |
| 18:46.53 | Kueken | so its supposed to be I percolate coffee, but when i just say I perculate everyone knows what it means |
| 18:47.16 | Kubi__ | Jademus if you want |
| 18:47.23 | Kubi__ | since I haven't created the ability for the summonable |
| 18:47.33 | Kubi__ | I don't know what I want to do yet |
| 18:50.07 | JademusSreg | Scrap Heap: Toss a heap of scrap at target unit/point; trapped units are immobilized by the heap until the heap is destroyed. Friendly units take significantly reduced damage while in the heap, and it functions as an obstacle. |
| 18:50.33 | JademusSreg | Drill Deep: Swann's experience as a Kel- |
| 18:51.53 | JademusSreg | Morian miner has conditioned the man to drill deep, hard, and fast. Tunnel to a target area, et cetera, obligatory aoe damage. Enemy units along the path get stuck as the tunnel collapses behind Swann, briefly snaring them. |
| 18:51.56 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 18:53.48 | Dustin | OH shit |
| 18:54.03 | Dustin | I just had like 20 seconds where I had the urge to make some abilitys for my map |
| 18:54.08 | Kubi__ | Well |
| 18:54.11 | Kubi__ | Take that urge |
| 18:54.12 | Kubi__ | and make me some |
| 18:54.14 | Kueken | terrifying! |
| 18:54.16 | Dustin | Its gone :( |
| 18:54.22 | Kubi__ | slaps Dustin |
| 18:54.23 | Kubi__ | COME BACK |
| 18:54.24 | Dustin | Before I even opened the editor |
| 18:54.25 | Kubi__ | BRING THE URGE |
| 18:54.54 | Kubi__ | I should use those drills from the campaign |
| 18:55.55 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 18:55.56 | Dustin | Kubi, what's a cool ability idea for a tanky shotgun |
| 18:56.18 | Kubi__ | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmvcG8mD3Y |
| 18:56.18 | Kubi__ | ? |
| 18:56.45 | Kubi__ | Shotgun abilities is so satisfying |
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| 18:56.47 | Kubi__ | with physics |
| 18:56.53 | Kubi__ | I spent like 20 minutes shooting marines off the cliff. |
| 18:56.56 | Dustin | I love that fucking range splat |
| 18:57.26 | Kubi__ | lol i love the mist model |
| 18:57.28 | Kubi__ | blood mist |
| 18:57.40 | Kubi__ | God damn that ability is so satisfying |
| 18:57.44 | Kubi__ | I hope its really useful in my map |
| 18:57.47 | Dustin | It looks fun |
| 18:58.45 | Kubi__ | I used a custom sound for more of that oof sound |
| 18:58.47 | Kubi__ | because lets face it |
| 18:58.56 | Kubi__ | shooting a shotgun is fucking satisfying |
| 18:59.28 | Kubi__ | I just used TwoDie's shotgun ability and tweaked it a bit, added new models to it and a splat. |
| 18:59.35 | Kubi__ | and force physics |
| 19:00.41 | Kubi__ | oh wow |
| 19:00.44 | Kubi__ | my editor crashed again |
| 19:00.54 | JademusSreg | Bulwark: Deploy a modular fortress with improbable speed. Its primary function is that of a bunker, and it can be upgraded with additional modules, module slots made available with each ability level, shit like mini-autoturrets, fire extinguishers, nanite repair systems, tesselated shell plating, et cetera. |
| 19:01.12 | Kubi__ | mmm |
| 19:01.18 | Kubi__ | Well Drill Deep I'll rule out |
| 19:01.23 | JademusSreg | And finally... |
| 19:01.41 | Kubi__ | because i have an ability like it |
| 19:01.44 | Kubi__ | but to a zerg unit |
| 19:06.51 | Kubi__ | I am going to make the summonable unit the drill from the space part of hots campaign |
| 19:06.53 | Kubi__ | that be baller |
| 19:07.03 | JademusSreg | Rocktimus Prime: Pilot an enormous fucking robot. It's slow but built like a tank, if tanks had arms that could clobber/toss entire squads and were equipped with multi-chambered fusion torches. |
| 19:07.24 | Kubi__ | Mag Mine |
| 19:07.36 | Kubi__ | Jademus |
| 19:07.37 | Kubi__ | You fuckface |
| 19:07.41 | Kubi__ | that's not a defensive ability |
| 19:07.45 | JademusSreg | Crushing enemies and knockback is required. |
| 19:07.47 | Kubi__ | thats what your sick and twisted imagination |
| 19:07.58 | Kubi__ | MAG MINE |
| 19:07.59 | Kubi__ | There it is |
| 19:08.04 | JademusSreg | It's slow, tanky, and has its own limited set of attacks. |
| 19:08.14 | JademusSreg | Have you seen the model to which I refer? |
| 19:08.28 | Kubi__ | mmm |
| 19:08.32 | Kubi__ | The one with the big cannon it? |
| 19:08.33 | Kubi__ | or tron |
| 19:08.54 | JademusSreg | Definitely not the latter. Dunno what you mean by the former. |
| 19:09.05 | JademusSreg | I'm sure as hell not talking about the Warhound. |
| 19:09.51 | Kubi__ | Good |
| 19:09.58 | Kubi__ | because that will be its own seperate hero |
| 19:09.59 | JademusSreg | I'll find the path. |
| 19:10.22 | JademusSreg | Assets\Units\Terran\SuperCraneAdvanced\SuperCraneAdvanced.m3 |
| 19:10.50 | Kueken | I had a feeling you were referring to this :D |
| 19:10.59 | Kubi__ | mmm magmine |
| 19:11.11 | JademusSreg | I wanna call it Johnny 5, but figured Rocktimus Prime would be a better lead. |
| 19:11.15 | Kubi__ | wtf |
| 19:11.18 | Kubi__ | it crashed agian |
| 19:11.35 | JademusSreg | What the hell are you doing to make it crash, Kub? |
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| 19:11.51 | Kubi__ | opening model previewer |
| 19:12.28 | JademusSreg | Certain models crash the editor. |
| 19:12.38 | Kubi__ | I didnt even previewed a model yet |
| 19:12.39 | Kubi__ | lol |
| 19:12.51 | JademusSreg | But the only ones I recall are specific nonexistent Zergy models. |
| 19:13.44 | Kubi__ | So model previewer crashes my editor |
| 19:13.47 | Kubi__ | brb gonna restart |
| 19:19.00 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Images/RocktimusPrime.jpg |
| 19:19.12 | JademusSreg | Bonus: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Images/TurnAndCough.jpg |
| 19:20.50 | JademusSreg | Pardon the terrain in the screenshot; first custom terrain texture test. Suboptimal results. |
| 19:23.39 | Dustin | nice! |
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| 19:24.21 | Kubi | Mag mines and shotgun |
| 19:24.24 | Kubi | good combo abilities |
| 19:24.28 | Kubi | shotgun slows units, magmine hits them |
| 19:24.35 | JademusSreg | Kub: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Images/RocktimusPrime.jpg |
| 19:24.52 | Kubi | Dafuq is that |
| 19:25.15 | JademusSreg | A huge fucking robot. |
| 19:25.20 | Kubi | Lots of animations? |
| 19:25.25 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 19:26.01 | Kubi | MAG MINES |
| 19:26.29 | JademusSreg | Specifically, Birth, several Stand, 3 Attack, Stand Work with Stand, End, and 5 variants. |
| 19:26.39 | JademusSreg | *Start, End |
| 19:27.09 | JademusSreg | Gotta say something more interesting than MagMines. |
| 19:27.30 | Kubi | HEY |
| 19:27.33 | Kubi | MAG MINES ARE INTERESTING |
| 19:27.37 | Kubi | LASERS |
| 19:27.38 | Kubi | DRILLS |
| 19:27.40 | Kubi | MINES |
| 19:27.53 | JademusSreg | Yeah, perhaps, except you haven't explained what they do. |
| 19:28.24 | Kubi | fucking open a make |
| 19:28.28 | Kubi | and type CreateUnit Magmine |
| 19:28.43 | Kubi | jjesus you play the campaign |
| 19:29.03 | Kubi | You damn thundercock |
| 19:29.05 | Dustin | Hmm, when you cast an ability out of range, and the unit runs there to cast it, what's that flag called? |
| 19:29.22 | Kubi | you want it do that? |
| 19:29.23 | Kubi | or do? |
| 19:29.24 | Kubi | dont* |
| 19:29.26 | Dustin | Yes |
| 19:29.31 | Dustin | I have Transient on now |
| 19:29.40 | Dustin | Which im hoping isnt causing the issue |
| 19:29.53 | Dustin | Cause I don't want it to break shooting if it's withing range |
| 19:30.04 | Kubi | You said yes |
| 19:30.09 | Kubi | to a two option question |
| 19:30.16 | Dustin | I do |
| 19:30.16 | Kubi | It wasnt a yes or no answer |
| 19:30.20 | Kubi | YOU WANT IT |
| 19:30.22 | Kubi | TO MOVE TO CAST |
| 19:30.30 | Dustin | DAMNIT KUBI |
| 19:30.52 | Dustin | He should move to the spot to cast if its out of range |
| 19:31.01 | Dustin | If it's in range it should cast without disrupting attacks |
| 19:31.16 | Kubi | Is ability range 0,500 |
| 19:31.18 | Dustin | Does everything fine, except the run to cast out of range and I cant remember the flag for that |
| 19:31.19 | Dustin | yes |
| 19:31.28 | Kubi | Do you have a range set |
| 19:31.39 | Kubi | I remember I use to have the problem all the time |
| 19:31.42 | Kubi | cant remember what i did |
| 19:32.08 | Dustin | ya It's got a range |
| 19:32.52 | Dustin | Oh I might have found it, transient prefered, gonna test |
| 19:32.55 | Kubi | I cant remember |
| 19:33.34 | Dustin | Yeah that was it |
| 19:39.51 | JademusSreg | This second texture turned out much better. |
| 19:40.45 | Kueken | Dustin: you use transient on a target ability? |
| 19:41.07 | Kueken | that has no effect besides ignoring cast times, afaik |
| 19:41.41 | Dustin | It makes it so the ability doesn't interupt target orders |
| 19:41.59 | Kueken | last time I tried that didn't work for effect- target |
| 19:42.04 | Dustin | But Transient Preffered does the same unless it needs to order the unit to move to the location to cast it first etc |
| 19:42.08 | Kueken | and that was in HotS |
| 19:42.26 | Kueken | o_o |
| 19:42.32 | Kueken | trying again, I guess |
| 19:42.33 | Dustin | It was working fine the way it was since WOL, but I wanted to make them run to the point issued out of range |
| 19:45.06 | Kueken | hm |
| 19:45.18 | Kueken | no idea what I did wrong all these years |
| 19:45.25 | Kueken | never worked for me, now it does |
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| 19:59.22 | Dustin | that's funny Kueken :P |
| 19:59.48 | Kueken | I would use a differend word :p |
| 19:59.50 | Kueken | *t |
| 20:03.36 | Taintedwisp | funny? |
| 20:03.39 | Taintedwisp | you sound kinda lame |
| 20:03.46 | Taintedwisp | kueken your lame |
| 20:03.57 | Kueken | agreed |
| 20:04.17 | Taintedwisp | kdk |
| 20:04.22 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmvcG8mD3Y |
| 20:04.23 | Kubi | TaintedWisp |
| 20:04.26 | Kubi | What you think of that |
| 20:04.30 | Taintedwisp | 1 sec |
| 20:05.09 | Taintedwisp | ehh, is the pushback from the weapon to from the ragdoll physics? |
| 20:05.26 | Kubi | yeah? |
| 20:05.29 | Taintedwisp | ragdoll |
| 20:05.34 | Taintedwisp | ehh a bit unimpressive |
| 20:05.37 | Kubi | Why? |
| 20:05.46 | Taintedwisp | because its just a cone shaped damage effect? |
| 20:05.54 | Kubi | yeah but you fail to realize |
| 20:06.01 | Kubi | its satisfying as fuck |
| 20:06.16 | Taintedwisp | di mean i guess, I would say its probably the most generic ability I have ever seen |
| 20:06.36 | Kubi | Generic populance doesnt care about how creative your abilities can be |
| 20:06.40 | Kubi | they want them to be satisfying |
| 20:06.53 | Kubi | Can you make them creative and satisfying? |
| 20:06.54 | Kubi | yes |
| 20:06.57 | Taintedwisp | I thought you were going to show a REAL showcase video :P |
| 20:07.01 | Taintedwisp | Yes I did :) |
| 20:07.05 | Taintedwisp | well some are generic |
| 20:07.12 | Taintedwisp | but thats because I got lazy ha |
| 20:07.14 | Kubi | Too complex |
| 20:07.18 | Kubi | makes people confused |
| 20:08.35 | Kueken | I agree, nothing bad about simple abilities as long as they are well executed |
| 20:08.54 | Taintedwisp | im not saying its bad, i just dont think it was nothing amazing |
| 20:08.57 | Kueken | some more complicated abilities here and there don't harm |
| 20:09.09 | Kueken | but its easy to overdo it |
| 20:09.31 | Kubi | How do you check cliff level on a weapon projectile |
| 20:09.56 | Taintedwisp | validator? |
| 20:10.27 | Kubi | example? |
| 20:11.19 | Kubi | My missile goes forever |
| 20:11.23 | Kubi | I want to die on cliff impact |
| 20:11.50 | JademusSreg | Tests: https://www.dropbox.com/sh/1ua1a0r3lpqq9kh/qaSjfO5Mv1 |
| 20:11.56 | Taintedwisp | oh can t you modify the mover to do that? |
| 20:12.00 | JademusSreg | Accessible? |
| 20:12.10 | Kubi | LET ME check the mover |
| 20:12.27 | Taintedwisp | What Iam I looking at jadmeus? |
| 20:12.36 | Taintedwisp | looks like someone randomly cut out a space island |
| 20:12.53 | JademusSreg | There are two custom terrain textures, 1 standard for comparison. |
| 20:13.13 | Taintedwisp | oh |
| 20:13.18 | Taintedwisp | All 4 that are used look decent |
| 20:13.24 | Taintedwisp | I am guessing you did the gravel one |
| 20:13.33 | Taintedwisp | and the one on the mountain |
| 20:13.50 | JademusSreg | The texture on the mounds, pit, and cliff are version 2, the one in the back is Shakuras stone, the other darker texture is version 1. |
| 20:14.33 | JademusSreg | For reference, here's a cleared picture of version 1: https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Images/RocktimusPrime.jpg |
| 20:15.19 | Taintedwisp | Whats that robot on top of the tank, is that from HoTS? |
| 20:15.31 | JademusSreg | That's from WoL. |
| 20:15.53 | Taintedwisp | Whats it called? |
| 20:16.03 | JademusSreg | SuperCraneAdvanced. |
| 20:16.09 | Kubi | HOW DO I FUCKING CHECK CLIFF LEVEL FOR A PROJECTILE |
| 20:16.10 | Kubi | ANSWER ME |
| 20:16.18 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 20:16.32 | JademusSreg | Funny you should ask. |
| 20:16.50 | Taintedwisp | Dude just set the missile mover... |
| 20:16.54 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1049551/Jademus%20Demo.SC2Map |
| 20:16.55 | Taintedwisp | I think you have to set it to adaption |
| 20:17.27 | Kubi | It is a missile mover |
| 20:17.32 | JademusSreg | This shows the behavior-based collider missile approach I use. |
| 20:18.05 | JademusSreg | (Though ideally one would use a hybrid approach.) |
| 20:18.53 | Kubi | Which one |
| 20:18.59 | Taintedwisp | 'Hey jademus on a scale from 1-10 how often do you think that super crane is used? |
| 20:19.07 | JademusSreg | 1. |
| 20:19.38 | JademusSreg | The WoL campaign didn't use it, most people don't know it even exists. |
| 20:19.41 | Kubi | Considering the number of maps that uses hots assets to a degree is like less than 2% |
| 20:19.51 | Taintedwisp | Sweet Imma do a minor retexture and use it |
| 20:19.51 | JademusSreg | It's a more robust version of the Port Zion crate. |
| 20:20.00 | JademusSreg | It's a WoL asset. |
| 20:20.07 | Taintedwisp | It will make a good hero then |
| 20:20.13 | Taintedwisp | it has a lot of animations |
| 20:20.23 | JademusSreg | About a dozen. |
| 20:20.35 | Taintedwisp | not bad for an unsued thing |
| 20:20.55 | Kubi | wtf is this jade |
| 20:21.07 | JademusSreg | Kub, wat? |
| 20:22.04 | Kubi | :!? |
| 20:22.23 | JademusSreg | It's a map. |
| 20:23.27 | Taintedwisp | I think imma add flames to this crane maybe that will be good |
| 20:24.39 | Kueken | I know that layout.. thats one of the last missions from the WoL campaign, right? |
| 20:24.50 | JademusSreg | Taint is effectively the David Jaffe of the SC2 community. |
| 20:25.06 | JademusSreg | And yes. |
| 20:25.11 | Kueken | the one where you get battlecruisers |
| 20:25.19 | Kueken | wasd, left click |
| 20:25.21 | JademusSreg | I was lazy and skipped doing terrain for it. |
| 20:25.24 | Kueken | any more controls? |
| 20:25.30 | Kueken | ah |
| 20:25.31 | JademusSreg | Hold right click. |
| 20:25.36 | Kueken | right click sprints |
| 20:25.40 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 20:26.01 | Kueken | I assume you used enumerate area validators? |
| 20:26.13 | JademusSreg | Probably. |
| 20:26.29 | Kueken | and cliff level checks |
| 20:27.10 | JademusSreg | Would be nice if data could handle basic arithmetic. |
| 20:27.11 | Kueken | I dislike, how projectiles travel up the cliff and then, when they reached the top decide its time to explode :/ |
| 20:27.21 | JademusSreg | Yes, that's bugged me as well. |
| 20:27.28 | Kueken | but thats hard to avoid with the used validators |
| 20:27.38 | JademusSreg | I know the solution, but haven't returned to work on the implementation. |
| 20:27.58 | Kueken | check offset ahead? |
| 20:28.06 | Kueken | or combine with an unpathable check |
| 20:28.47 | JademusSreg | Pretty much. Thus the need for a hybrid approach. |
| 20:28.50 | Kueken | thats the 2 things I tried |
| 20:29.33 | JademusSreg | Behavior > Persistent : Periodic Shit > Varios checks. |
| 20:29.33 | Kueken | oh, and the shooting sound is overwhelming xD |
| 20:29.36 | JademusSreg | *Various |
| 20:29.59 | Kueken | but well, cosmetics |
| 20:30.12 | JademusSreg | Yes, as a Demo I didn't feel much inclined to polish it up. |
| 20:30.27 | JademusSreg | But it contains the seeds for my prototype. |
| 20:30.30 | Kubi | DOES IT |
| 20:30.33 | Kubi | WORK MULTIPLAYER |
| 20:30.36 | Kubi | NON LAG |
| 20:30.45 | JademusSreg | It works well. |
| 20:31.06 | Kueken | yeah, Blizzard granted Jade's map improved latency |
| 20:31.10 | Kueken | but only Jade |
| 20:31.27 | JademusSreg | But asking about "lagless" anything is, er, idiotic. |
| 20:34.17 | JademusSreg | Its responsiveness is very near the limit of what is possible. I tend to use orders for simplicity, which possibly adds up to 44.(4) ms latency. |
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| 20:35.10 | JademusSreg | I have it uploaded, if anyone wants to test, |
| 20:41.20 | Kubi | of what |
| 20:41.48 | JademusSreg | Don't much care for hopping on bnet just for a demo, but will if needed. |
| 20:41.59 | Kubi | ya io will |
| 20:42.15 | JademusSreg | I'll clarify. That same map is on bnet, so I can test latency. |
| 20:43.06 | JademusSreg | Let me know if/when you'd like to test and if you intend to pull any guests along. |
| 20:43.21 | JademusSreg | The test would be quite brief, as there is no respawn or anything. |
| 20:43.52 | Kubi | im on |
| 20:44.00 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 20:44.04 | JademusSreg | One moment, then. |
| 20:45.47 | Taintedwisp | thanks for the compliment aboce jademus :P |
| 20:45.58 | JademusSreg | Who's joining the demo? |
| 20:46.31 | JademusSreg | And Kubi, what's you charcode? |
| 20:46.54 | Taintedwisp | his char code is244 |
| 20:46.57 | Taintedwisp | trolol |
| 20:47.01 | Kubi | :O |
| 20:47.18 | Kubi | Is it |
| 20:47.20 | Kubi | how do I CHECK! |
| 20:47.36 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:51.29 | Kubi | jademus is so noob |
| 20:51.33 | Kubi | he cant even ad me to game |
| 20:52.26 | JademusSreg | Bnet is just shitty. |
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| 20:54.49 | Kubi | soooo noob |
| 20:55.28 | JademusSreg | You mean the player who got killed? |
| 20:55.50 | JademusSreg | Or the bnet developer who fucked up the context menu> |
| 20:56.31 | Kubi | God damn it |
| 20:56.39 | JademusSreg | But yeah, I dig the way it feels. Will probably build a prototype around that core. |
| 20:57.10 | Kubi | I would limit to at most 6 players though |
| 20:57.14 | Kubi | maybe 4 |
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| 20:58.57 | Reaperguyver | still trying to figure out how to make this area of effect grab all of the units inside of it with a trigger >.> lol |
| 20:58.58 | JademusSreg | I'll keep that in mind if I should have need for unsolicited advice. |
| 21:01.07 | Kubi | lol |
| 21:01.13 | Kubi | Well |
| 21:01.17 | Kubi | Taken from the destruction map |
| 21:01.19 | Kubi | with the tanks |
| 21:01.25 | Kubi | that had a WASD system |
| 21:01.30 | Kubi | Any more than 6 was unplayable |
| 21:01.36 | Kubi | 6 was good |
| 21:01.59 | JademusSreg | I haven't looked at their code, so it's not a persuasive case. |
| 21:02.24 | Kubi | STFU |
| 21:04.43 | Taintedwisp | Kubi, your stupid... just give up |
| 21:04.54 | Taintedwisp | you cannot beat someone who has over 75 iq :P |
| 21:05.02 | Kubi | Incinerate? |
| 21:05.07 | Taintedwisp | because you are just a measly 65 |
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| 21:05.12 | Taintedwisp | no hes more like 64 |
| 21:05.17 | JademusSreg | Never had much trouble with Photon Cycles, or rather it supported max players fine, -assuming- everyone's connection was blessed and smiled upon by the Great Ghost of the Internet. |
| 21:05.26 | Taintedwisp | HAH |
| 21:05.42 | Taintedwisp | Until they used the Solid line/ Depriciating line |
| 21:05.43 | Kubi | My map far exceeds his |
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| 21:05.50 | Kubi | I just need to make it so people have incentive to switch over |
| 21:05.51 | Taintedwisp | Then it got fucked with just five players jademus |
| 21:05.54 | Taintedwisp | :/ |
| 21:06.00 | Kubi | But |
| 21:06.03 | Kubi | we'll see taintedwisp |
| 21:06.06 | Kubi | who wins the popularity contest |
| 21:06.11 | Taintedwisp | What contest? |
| 21:06.18 | Taintedwisp | Your maps generic, and incernerates is crap? |
| 21:06.25 | Taintedwisp | I dont understand |
| 21:06.48 | JademusSreg | Yeah, No Gaps was a poor choice on my part, but it was an important lesson. Players know fuck-all. |
| 21:06.57 | Taintedwisp | I'm not trying to "win" just trying to make a fun map :) |
| 21:07.03 | Taintedwisp | :P |
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| 21:08.01 | Taintedwisp | This is prob gunna look bad :/ |
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| 21:08.40 | Taintedwisp | Actually its not too shabby |
| 21:08.42 | Taintedwisp | I rather like it |
| 21:09.05 | Taintedwisp | Its nothing too special but its decent |
| 21:09.10 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/lFqyY9j.jpg |
| 21:09.31 | Taintedwisp | I added team color and painted it gold |
| 21:09.46 | JademusSreg | It already has team color. |
| 21:09.55 | Taintedwisp | it has a LITTLE |
| 21:09.57 | Taintedwisp | not much |
| 21:10.00 | Taintedwisp | I added quite a bit |
| 21:11.23 | JademusSreg | Can't see it through all the makeup used on ST:TNG character Data's face to make him look like a metal-skinned android. |
| 21:11.37 | JademusSreg | I mean, that robot is already a robot. |
| 21:11.45 | JademusSreg | Doesn't need -that- much makeup. |
| 21:12.58 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:13.10 | Taintedwisp | whats a ST:TNG character? |
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| 21:16.23 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/AeqsbXn.jpg |
| 21:20.40 | JademusSreg | Johnny 5 is alive. |
| 21:20.46 | McqfrTheScott | Taintedwisp, star trek the next generation |
| 21:20.59 | McqfrTheScott | As in, Picard, or Worf or Riker |
| 21:21.06 | McqfrTheScott | Or Wesley Crusher, best character ever |
| 21:21.21 | Dustin | What's the process to register a Hover Local Actor Event On/Off? |
| 21:21.25 | McqfrTheScott | Best Star Trek character ever is clearly either Garak or Dukat. |
| 21:22.01 | Dustin | Or is that not a thing :( |
| 21:22.42 | Ahli | obviously every red shirt guy |
| 21:26.21 | Taintedwisp | BULL SHIT |
| 21:26.29 | Taintedwisp | The best star trek character ever is picard |
| 21:26.30 | Taintedwisp | fuck the rest |
| 21:26.34 | Taintedwisp | Startrek sucks |
| 21:26.37 | Taintedwisp | But picard is awesome |
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| 21:30.20 | JademusSreg | Dustin, the actor event should be easy enough. The unit also need the flag. |
| 21:30.43 | JademusSreg | Most units have the flag disabled by default to prevent lag. |
| 21:30.47 | Dustin | Gotcha |
| 21:32.40 | Taintedwisp | Dustin dont act like you got that |
| 21:32.49 | Taintedwisp | you got nothing....cept herpies |
| 21:37.14 | Demalii | To get a colossus using channeling weapon (like normal) and adding the stalker weapon (as a pulse rapid fire even when colossus weapon is firing).. Would a way to do that be to load another unit with no actor under the colossus? |
| 21:37.56 | Taintedwisp | you could just add the 2nd weapon to the same unit. |
| 21:38.03 | Taintedwisp | you can have multiple weapons on a single unit |
| 21:38.24 | Demalii | wait |
| 21:38.33 | Demalii | I have been up all night trying this.. |
| 21:38.54 | Taintedwisp | AHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH |
| 21:38.59 | Taintedwisp | Hey jademusSreg |
| 21:39.02 | Demalii | If the colossus is firing it's thermal lance.. you're saying I can have it shoot the stalker weapon independantly |
| 21:39.13 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 21:39.21 | Demalii | like a turret on a turret =p |
| 21:39.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah? |
| 21:39.39 | Demalii | ok.. |
| 21:39.41 | Taintedwisp | What you think of my laser placement? |
| 21:39.43 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/gOfy4F4.jpg |
| 21:39.56 | Taintedwisp | just go to weapons+ and hit the green X add your new weapon |
| 21:40.12 | Demalii | yea.. it doesn't fire at the same time.. |
| 21:40.23 | Demalii | it just stops the thermal lance from firing at times |
| 21:40.42 | Taintedwisp | you check flags on the weapon to make them fire at the same time |
| 21:41.09 | Demalii | yea i did about 3 hours of checking and unchecking flags to see results heh |
| 21:41.40 | Demalii | best i got was putting the stalker weapon without a turret (none).. and it would break and only shoot in 1 direction |
| 21:42.27 | Kueken | then set its angle to 360 |
| 21:43.15 | Demalii | I duplicated a turret and tried using that, and same effect, it would only shoot in 1 direction |
| 21:43.24 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:43.46 | Kueken | no turret, just set the Arc field of the weapon to 360 |
| 21:44.02 | Demalii | ah, i think i get ya |
| 21:44.07 | Demalii | i will give a try |
| 21:44.15 | JademusSreg | I must have missed when they added Scale options to units. |
| 21:44.18 | Taintedwisp | Kueken I need one of those worthless things called an opinion http://i.imgur.com/WQyn6AN.jpg |
| 21:44.42 | Kueken | in theory for 2 standard weapons to fire at the same time, all that is needed is unchecking the Linked Cooldown flag for both |
| 21:44.58 | Kueken | the channeling persistent from the Colossus might interfere |
| 21:45.16 | Kueken | nah, Tainted, not a big fan of that |
| 21:45.24 | Kueken | looked better without the cannon in the face |
| 21:45.40 | Taintedwisp | hmm okay |
| 21:45.45 | Taintedwisp | ill shrink it then |
| 21:45.52 | Taintedwisp | and put it on the helmet |
| 21:45.56 | Taintedwisp | or through the eye |
| 21:46.25 | Kueken | sniper rifle through the eye, so you can only see the barrel :D |
| 21:47.28 | Demalii | ok nice, it pauses for like a split second while firing the colossus thermal lance, but otherwise it seems to works |
| 21:47.54 | Demalii | sheesh, all night and that damn arc fixed it, thanks a lot haha |
| 21:48.53 | Kueken | get used to it :) |
| 21:49.00 | Kueken | happens a lot |
| 21:50.26 | Kubi | Oh maw god |
| 21:50.30 | Kubi | there is a transfer behavior?! |
| 21:50.32 | Demalii | word haha |
| 21:50.37 | Kubi | effect?! |
| 21:51.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:52.31 | Taintedwisp | Kueken I put it through both eyes |
| 21:52.32 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/YvALz9v.jpg |
| 21:53.11 | Kueken | better than before |
| 21:59.22 | Demalii | When my colossus shoots its stalker weapon, this error comes up many times per shot "CActorShield(ProtossShieldFull) Could not find e_attachShield or a dynamic shield attach on unit / CActorUnit[Lasarra] with model Lasarra" |
| 21:59.30 | Demalii | any clues on that? |
| 22:00.58 | Kubi | How do properly use the transfer ability |
| 22:03.48 | Kubi | on the launch missile ability |
| 22:03.52 | Kubi | I have transfer behavior |
| 22:03.56 | Kubi | which increases spell damage by 1000 |
| 22:03.59 | Kubi | so i know if it works |
| 22:04.03 | Kubi | but its not working correctly |
| 22:04.09 | Kubi | or its not transferring the behavior to the missile |
| 22:05.13 | Kubi | The impact damage is spell type damage |
| 22:07.08 | JademusSreg | Dem, sounds like Lasarra lacks the needed attachment for the Shield. |
| 22:08.21 | Demalii | ahahaha, apparently 360 arc on that stalker weapon is litterally hitting everything on the map wtf.. |
| 22:09.46 | Kubi | lol |
| 22:10.09 | JademusSreg | Texture version two is pretty good, but not quite perfect. The diffuse (RGB channel) has too much luminosity. |
| 22:14.11 | Kubi | TRANSFER |
| 22:14.13 | Kubi | THE FUCKING ABILITY |
| 22:17.32 | JademusSreg | So it seems Terrain Texture : Height Map is a deprecated field; it's only used by some Mar Sara terrain. Animation Rate isn't used anywhere. Looks obvious, but haven't got it working. |
| 22:20.47 | Kubi | JademusSreg |
| 22:20.49 | Kubi | This is for you. |
| 22:20.49 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzDUbUQ-qjg |
| 22:25.29 | Kubi | http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DXQ7ElMylAm8&start1=&video2=www.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Ffeature%3Dplayer_detailpage%26v%3Dm5TwT69i1lU%23t%3D64s&start2=&authorName=Fast+Sloth+Enjoying+Life |
| 22:25.31 | Kubi | BAHAH |
| 22:26.54 | Taintedwisp | Anyone here good at recording gameplay video? I can do the rest but I need a bunch of gameplay video |
| 22:27.18 | Kubi | u mean fraps bro? |
| 22:27.23 | Taintedwisp | Needs to be able to record on high settings |
| 22:27.25 | Demalii | hey kueken, the colossus still stops shooting stalker weapon for about 1 second when thermal lance fires if you've got any idea |
| 22:27.26 | Taintedwisp | Yeah fraps would work |
| 22:27.46 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmvcG8mD3Y |
| 22:27.48 | Taintedwisp | THe dude who was going to do my gameplay video is going to be busy until the end of may at the very least |
| 22:27.49 | Kubi | Like this jademusSreg |
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| 22:28.19 | Kueken | if you don't mind it attacking while moving, you can uncheck Only Fire While Attacking and Only Fire at Attack Target for the stalker weapon |
| 22:28.40 | Bato | Anyone know if there is a way to rotate a background? Want to use the starship one that appears to be in motion, but the motion lines go the wrong direction |
| 22:29.39 | Taintedwisp | I just need the raw gameplay footage :/ the problem is, fraps takes up sooo much space that I cant download it from someone else So I will needed it all put together and encoded to still be HD but smaller file size |
| 22:29.54 | Kubi | fuck |
| 22:29.56 | Taintedwisp | I mean when Fraps records not fraps itself |
| 22:30.05 | Kubi | I need to transfer a behavior from A unit to a missile |
| 22:30.09 | Kubi | but the unit suicides |
| 22:30.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:30.41 | Taintedwisp | A missile is a unit, you can do it :P if you use a persistant. |
| 22:30.55 | Taintedwisp | Just create a persistant witha search area that applys buffs to missiles. |
| 22:31.20 | JademusSreg | Saw it earlier. Roaches flopping around is amsuing. |
| 22:31.20 | Taintedwisp | have the search area go RIGHT after the LM effect |
| 22:31.22 | JademusSreg | *amusing |
| 22:31.27 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:32.21 | Kubi | I wish Transfer Behavior worked |
| 22:32.22 | Kubi | lol |
| 22:33.07 | Taintedwisp | No you wont jademus never comes back, he leaves forever |
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| 22:35.41 | DeadZergling | Cool, Kueken is back to logging in I see. Unfortunately still have the TW problem though. |
| 22:35.44 | Taintedwisp | Hey Deadzergling whats up |
| 22:35.47 | Taintedwisp | I gots a chicken |
| 22:35.49 | Taintedwisp | http://i.imgur.com/YvALz9v.jpg |
| 22:35.58 | Taintedwisp | His name shall be Ten PIece |
| 22:36.13 | DeadZergling | I see, was expecting a picture of you working out in a henhouse |
| 22:36.24 | Kubi | :O |
| 22:36.35 | DeadZergling | the dinosaur and attachments eh? |
| 22:36.39 | Taintedwisp | I work out in your mothers house... |
| 22:36.39 | Taintedwisp | I mean box |
| 22:37.10 | DeadZergling | If you are trying to make me pity you |
| 22:37.12 | DeadZergling | it is working |
| 22:37.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:37.26 | Taintedwisp | so what shitty project you working on? |
| 22:37.31 | DeadZergling | Still at it anyways, I took a rather extended break |
| 22:37.43 | Taintedwisp | at what? |
| 22:37.46 | Taintedwisp | i forget what you work on |
| 22:37.54 | DeadZergling | I meant you, see you are still at it |
| 22:37.58 | DeadZergling | still working on Evo Frenzy? |
| 22:38.01 | Taintedwisp | ah yeah :P |
| 22:38.08 | Taintedwisp | Doing upgrades |
| 22:38.18 | DeadZergling | dude, you were doing those 3-4 months ago |
| 22:38.20 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 22:38.43 | DeadZergling | had some real issues w/ your data editors as i recall |
| 22:38.53 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain101_zps18df0d35.jpg http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Screenshot2013-04-1922_14_40_zps0ffa76be.jpg http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Screenshot2013-04-1010_12_58_zpscf9ed04b.jpg |
| 22:39.03 | Taintedwisp | Wrong kind of upgrades your thinking :P |
| 22:39.05 | Kubi | LOL |
| 22:39.07 | Taintedwisp | I mean Upgrades to the map as a whole |
| 22:39.10 | Kubi | Thats what I tell him DeadZerlging |
| 22:39.12 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:39.17 | DeadZergling | bangarang! |
| 22:39.29 | Kubi | TaintedWisp map was already dead and its not even released! |
| 22:39.59 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:40.10 | DeadZergling | been messing w/ the UI mostly I see |
| 22:40.16 | Taintedwisp | I havent even started advertising |
| 22:40.19 | Taintedwisp | yeah pretty much |
| 22:40.32 | Kubi | ADVERTISE |
| 22:40.33 | Kubi | AND RELEASE! |
| 22:40.42 | Taintedwisp | Added a player leveling system, a new mechanic for deminishing returns, etc |
| 22:40.46 | Taintedwisp | I have had to learn triggers |
| 22:40.52 | Taintedwisp | no i dont rush shit kubi |
| 22:40.58 | Taintedwisp | Its already in public beta -_- |
| 22:41.25 | DeadZergling | Anyways, still working on the same RPG map, which will take forever I am sure, lol |
| 22:41.26 | Taintedwisp | I just relax and enjoy the development process |
| 22:41.30 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:41.50 | DeadZergling | Considering seeing if I can pay people in MMORPG money on my distraction to do pixel art for me |
| 22:41.52 | Demalii | kueken i've already done that it seems like it won't refire the thermal lance until the target of the stalker attack is dead, and still that 1 second pause after firing thermal lance before stalker weapons start attacking again, just not firing independent of the thermal lance it seems |
| 22:41.58 | Taintedwisp | Yeah the map is fully playable right now, i just gotta polish :P |
| 22:42.01 | DeadZergling | it could work, lol |
| 22:42.40 | DeadZergling | Kubi, what kind of stuff you work on? |
| 22:42.56 | Kueken | then try unchecking the Channeled flag for the thermal lance persistents |
| 22:43.01 | Taintedwisp | hes making a mediocre generic frenzy map |
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| 22:43.19 | Taintedwisp | And I mean Mediocre and generic :P |
| 22:43.31 | Taintedwisp | Its pretty much exactly like Zealot Frenzy with nothing new |
| 22:43.36 | Taintedwisp | stock sc2 models, etc |
| 22:43.39 | DeadZergling | isn't yours a Frenzy too? |
| 22:43.53 | Taintedwisp | Ehhh mine is kinda a frenzy, but not really |
| 22:44.05 | Taintedwisp | I dunno what it would be classified at this point |
| 22:44.13 | Taintedwisp | I guess the most accurate would be a Mass/Hero Arena |
| 22:44.15 | DeadZergling | a cluster (fill in blank) ? |
| 22:44.45 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.46 | DeadZergling | yea, I'm not sure what yours would be called either, lol |
| 22:44.54 | DeadZergling | good, items are a pita |
| 22:44.58 | DeadZergling | don't start on those |
| 22:45.02 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 22:45.16 | DeadZergling | and especially don't include original artwork |
| 22:45.21 | Taintedwisp | Well I have pick ups that buff the heroes temporarly |
| 22:45.22 | DeadZergling | to represent your items |
| 22:45.36 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:45.44 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I have made too much art as it is |
| 22:46.00 | Kubi | Even when I apply to trigger the missile |
| 22:46.03 | Kubi | it doesnt even do anything |
| 22:46.04 | DeadZergling | See I got most of area 3 mapped out, but have discovered I really, really suck at making caster items, lol |
| 22:46.35 | Demalii | kueken i've already messed with all that flags, literally every combination i think, i'm going to go with it's just not possible haha |
| 22:46.40 | Demalii | gg though =p |
| 22:46.56 | DeadZergling | know exactly what I'm doing after I get the base 10-12 caster items done though, recoloring them for the next 5 areas! |
| 22:47.01 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:47.25 | DeadZergling | thought you mighta moved onto something else by now TW |
| 22:48.11 | Taintedwisp | I was going to... BUT.... |
| 22:48.21 | Taintedwisp | I dont feel like making the terrain for my next project |
| 22:48.22 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 22:48.30 | DeadZergling | is really interesting, I have my map public, but is hidden in the not arcade section so people have to look for it to play it, with a really bad not good name convention |
| 22:48.35 | Taintedwisp | I have an AWESOME KICK ASS map planned that should get 1 on arcade no problem |
| 22:48.43 | DeadZergling | I've still gotten a few emails asking if I'm going to keep continuing |
| 22:48.50 | DeadZergling | because they want to see more |
| 22:49.04 | Taintedwisp | I need a HUGE and I MEAN FREAKIN HUGE CITY |
| 22:49.27 | DeadZergling | in other words, you need lag? |
| 22:49.30 | Taintedwisp | A marine will have to be downsized to .1 |
| 22:49.32 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:49.40 | DeadZergling | careful with that |
| 22:49.55 | Taintedwisp | Well I am going to have over 100 regions and spawn the buildings as a player enters regions and destroy them behind the player |
| 22:49.56 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 22:50.18 | Taintedwisp | I'm not good enough with triggers to properly add the triggers yet though |
| 22:50.21 | DeadZergling | and be sure to attempt your map on several different resolutions |
| 22:50.30 | Taintedwisp | ? why |
| 22:50.31 | DeadZergling | I used to have freaking tiny scales |
| 22:50.42 | DeadZergling | looked plenty huge on my giant monitor |
| 22:50.49 | DeadZergling | then i tried some more common resolutions |
| 22:50.53 | DeadZergling | I coudl barely see shit |
| 22:50.53 | Taintedwisp | These are a few of my newest heroes http://i.imgur.com/4i5HZC4.jpg |
| 22:51.03 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:51.18 | Taintedwisp | Its going to be a 3rd person, open world escape the zombies map |
| 22:51.24 | DeadZergling | someone needs to take the attachments away from you |
| 22:51.28 | Taintedwisp | With over 25-50 ways to escape the zombies |
| 22:51.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:51.50 | Taintedwisp | only 1 of those is an attachment hero? |
| 22:52.02 | Demalii | sob, if the unit is moving, both weapons will attack independantly, but stopped, it shoots one and then the other |
| 22:52.35 | DeadZergling | oh really, the 2 in the back look like more attachment specials to me |
| 22:52.39 | Kubi | Whatever I do |
| 22:52.42 | Taintedwisp | nah custom models |
| 22:52.44 | Kubi | it will not apply a behavior to the missile |
| 22:52.45 | Taintedwisp | The zerg and the protoss |
| 22:52.50 | Taintedwisp | The terran is a stock model recolored |
| 22:53.16 | DeadZergling | not the terran |
| 22:53.22 | DeadZergling | was obvious that was a recolor |
| 22:53.48 | DeadZergling | I see, who'd you get to make new models, or are th ey new ones uploaded to mapster? |
| 22:54.42 | Taintedwisp | mapster models |
| 22:55.18 | Kubi | FUCK IT |
| 22:55.21 | Kubi | Makign a trigger |
| 22:55.25 | Kubi | to grab hero level of ability |
| 22:55.27 | Kubi | unit takes damage |
| 22:55.31 | Kubi | create based on level of ability |
| 22:55.36 | Kubi | effect |
| 22:56.23 | DeadZergling | not sure I want to look at my triggers again |
| 22:56.29 | DeadZergling | is so very many things in there |
| 22:56.30 | DeadZergling | lol |
| 22:57.10 | DeadZergling | At least I organized and cleaned them up last time, so they aren't as terrible as they could be |
| 22:57.11 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:57.25 | Taintedwisp | kubi |
| 22:57.32 | Taintedwisp | Just do a damage response with a switch effect? |
| 22:58.20 | Taintedwisp | do switch apply buffs and simply fix shit. |
| 22:59.22 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling, You Record gameplay footage? |
| 23:00.05 | DeadZergling | not lately TW |
| 23:00.27 | DeadZergling | Did get the full version of FRAPS though, that is lifetime useage as far as I know |
| 23:00.43 | Taintedwisp | ah okay |
| 23:01.03 | Taintedwisp | I gotta find someone willing to record and send me a bit of gameplay footage |
| 23:01.18 | Taintedwisp | this computer cant handle high settings, let alone while recording |
| 23:01.25 | DeadZergling | I understand |
| 23:01.39 | DeadZergling | I learned that recording my giant resolution was a mistake too |
| 23:01.58 | DeadZergling | computer couldn't keep up w/ recording that large of screen |
| 23:02.09 | DeadZergling | I have to change my resolution for recording, lol |
| 23:02.16 | Kubi | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:02.20 | Taintedwisp | ouch |
| 23:02.21 | Kubi | What the fuck suppose to go in Unit Group |
| 23:02.24 | Taintedwisp | what you have to change it to? |
| 23:02.58 | Kubi | nvm |
| 23:03.06 | Kubi | got it |
| 23:03.19 | DeadZergling | like 1280x1024 and it is much happier, lol |
| 23:03.36 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:03.50 | Taintedwisp | i have to lower this computers to that just to play starcraft on low :( |
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| 23:03.59 | DeadZergling | haven't done any recording since i did my demo videos for my map |
| 23:04.00 | DeadZergling | http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/horologium-rpg/ |
| 23:04.30 | DeadZergling | my bomb ability still makes me laugh |
| 23:04.59 | DeadZergling | I should really make a demo video for my necromancer sometime, he is pretty much done after all |
| 23:06.18 | Kubi | DeadZergling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jmvcG8mD3Y |
| 23:06.53 | Ahli | how to do that sweet cone? |
| 23:07.12 | Kubi | I just took zerus cone |
| 23:07.14 | Ahli | I forgot the name of the actor someone told me to look into after hots release |
| 23:07.14 | DeadZergling | made yourself a shotgun I see |
| 23:07.17 | Kubi | and applied it like any other guide |
| 23:07.21 | Kubi | ZerusCone |
| 23:07.23 | Kubi | or some shit |
| 23:07.42 | Kubi | RedZergCone |
| 23:07.45 | Kubi | I believe for the model |
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| 23:09.47 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling you wanna make 13 heroes for me? |
| 23:09.55 | Taintedwisp | I just wanna make the units model visual :P |
| 23:09.58 | DeadZergling | that one of the new editor functionalities? Semi-circle selection? |
| 23:10.05 | DeadZergling | Lol, no I do not TW |
| 23:10.17 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling we could always do that |
| 23:10.30 | Taintedwisp | on the search area where it says 360, you just reduce that |
| 23:10.38 | Taintedwisp | remember the center is in front of the unit |
| 23:10.51 | Taintedwisp | 60 degrees is the most common |
| 23:10.53 | Demalii | where can i set the upgrade for a weapon (dmg points per upgrade)? |
| 23:10.58 | DeadZergling | Yea, I just mixed it up so often I usually ended up making several small complete circles |
| 23:11.05 | DeadZergling | to get the same effect |
| 23:11.30 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:11.41 | DeadZergling | is 60 degrees 30 degrees on both sides then or 60 on one side? |
| 23:12.12 | Taintedwisp | 30 degrees on both sides |
| 23:12.35 | Taintedwisp | Otherewise 180 degrees would be fucked haha |
| 23:12.58 | DeadZergling | That explains why I just made smaller circles anyways |
| 23:13.06 | DeadZergling | i assumed the latter |
| 23:13.38 | Kubi | Its a sizable cone model |
| 23:13.42 | Kubi | by radius and height (range) |
| 23:16.09 | DeadZergling | I may not be so useful for recording anyways TW, I haven't bothered to get HoTS yet, have no intention of making it a map playable requirement anyways |
| 23:18.25 | Taintedwisp | Neither do I, i bought HoTS but I have no need for the assets |
| 23:19.25 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8728983810 Trollin battle.net morons since 1998 |
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| 23:21.32 | DeadZergling | yea, do you even play melee? |
| 23:23.28 | Taintedwisp | about one match a week haah |
| 23:23.31 | DeadZergling | That's about as bad as posting that protoss units need to be made more powerful and take up more supply. So you can achieve your dream of an army of 2 units, lol |
| 23:23.39 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:24.09 | Taintedwisp | Thre is a little bit of truth in it, but i posted it to the extree |
| 23:24.11 | Taintedwisp | extreme |
| 23:24.37 | DeadZergling | well most of them seem to think you are serious |
| 23:25.56 | Taintedwisp | good |
| 23:26.03 | Taintedwisp | its not a good trolling if they dont |
| 23:26.23 | Taintedwisp | MY next post "Remove teh Marine, too generic and op" |
| 23:28.30 | Taintedwisp | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8728983842#1 |
| 23:28.32 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 23:30.02 | Bato | http://i.imgur.com/s9U545m.jpg |
| 23:30.39 | DeadZergling | i think you might get called out on that one, too obvious |
| 23:30.45 | Taintedwisp | possibly |
| 23:30.57 | Taintedwisp | looks laggy bato |
| 23:31.35 | DeadZergling | i like the big thrusters |
| 23:31.42 | DeadZergling | but the little ones look kind of pointless |
| 23:32.04 | DeadZergling | why even have those w/ such giant ones undernearth |
| 23:32.30 | Bato | the ones on the sides can be killed by the opposing team |
| 23:32.52 | Bato | slows down the ship, more zerg in pursuit will catch up |
| 23:33.13 | Taintedwisp | AHAHAHAHA |
| 23:33.18 | DeadZergling | okay, why can't they be reactor/power supplies instead |
| 23:33.19 | Taintedwisp | Deadzergling, They fell for it... |
| 23:33.21 | DeadZergling | for the bigger ones? |
| 23:33.26 | Taintedwisp | I HAVE PROVEN THAT BATTLE.NET PLAYERS ARE FUCKING IDIOTS |
| 23:34.10 | Bato | Can you prove water is wet for your next feat of strength? |
| 23:34.46 | DeadZergling | TW proves that every other post he makes |
| 23:34.54 | DeadZergling | being a BNet player himself |
| 23:34.58 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:35.14 | Taintedwisp | I am not stupid, I am random, there is a huge difference |
| 23:35.24 | Taintedwisp | When I see something worth being serious about, I get real smart real fast :P |
| 23:35.30 | DeadZergling | Like I understand the idea bato, the little ones just look so out of palce |
| 23:36.10 | Ahli | we are all unworthy |
| 23:36.35 | DeadZergling | Okay, how goes being chauffeur for your little brother by the way, Mr. Smart? |
| 23:37.02 | Taintedwisp | i am not being Chauffer? |
| 23:37.19 | Taintedwisp | My car stopped working a few months ago, and trying to walk to find a job is a pain in the ass |
| 23:37.33 | DeadZergling | Did you ever consider the bus? |
| 23:37.35 | Taintedwisp | luckily spring is coming, and the tree nursery opens up in a week or 2 |
| 23:37.46 | Taintedwisp | too far in the country to take a bus |
| 23:38.09 | Taintedwisp | its a 10 minute drive to the nearest town |
| 23:38.24 | Taintedwisp | that doesnt seem like much but thats going 60 mph the whole time |
| 23:38.36 | Taintedwisp | walking 10 miles for a bus stop is roughly 2-3 hours |
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| 23:41.21 | DeadZergling | Considered the joys of owning a bicycle? |
| 23:41.39 | Taintedwisp | Meh |
| 23:41.46 | Taintedwisp | Thats a bit more money then i have atm |
| 23:41.56 | Taintedwisp | i need to get up about 400$ to fix my car |
| 23:42.06 | Taintedwisp | a bike for someone of my height would be roughtly 200-300$ |
| 23:42.10 | Taintedwisp | soo that woul dbe stupid |
| 23:44.00 | Ahli | people who watch gsl will now this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH0c1aFyx_0 :D |
| 23:50.22 | JademusSreg | Annoying music. Closed. |
| 23:51.01 | JademusSreg | Synopsis instead? |
| 23:51.44 | Ahli | well, the music tells you that it's a sc2 version of the ad of that game that keeps popping up during gsl breaks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1unKjzlfrFA |
| 23:54.20 | Taintedwisp | yall remind me of mentally retarted monkies |
| 23:54.37 | Taintedwisp | Monkeys |
| 23:54.44 | Taintedwisp | monkies just doesnt look right :/ |
| 23:54.54 | JademusSreg | Must be eerie, like looking in a mirror. |
