| 00:00.02 | Taintedwisp | ah alright cool |
| 00:00.06 | Cardanis | Since then DoW came out, so it's easily comparable to that |
| 00:00.23 | Cardanis | But the playstyle is going to be different I'm hoping |
| 00:00.24 | Kueken | can you check, which kind of behavior change triggered the Unit Behavior Change event? |
| 00:00.43 | Cardanis | Am I weird in liking more slow paced RTS games? lol |
| 00:01.49 | Cardanis | Also, I'm hoping to make it more 'role' based, as per 'counter' based |
| 00:02.14 | Cardanis | You can kind-of see with SC2, the reason you get a unit isn't necessarily to fill a role, but more of to counter another unit |
| 00:02.27 | Cardanis | There are exceptions, like reapers and oracles strictly for harass |
| 00:02.46 | Cardanis | But other than that, it seems that units are built solely because of what your opponent has or doesn't have |
| 00:03.01 | Cardanis | I want the units in my map to have a very steady role, and you get them because they will serve well in that role |
| 00:04.00 | Cardanis | Enhancing your units by making them more durable, or being detrimental to them |
| 00:04.01 | Cardanis | that way your playstyle is more of that. . . YOUR playstyle, and how well you use it, as opposed to how well you knew what your opponent was doing and reacted |
| 00:04.10 | Cardanis | be it harassment, holding ground, tanking a line, etc |
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| 00:04.52 | Taintedwisp | hey dogmai whats up? |
| 00:13.03 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:13.21 | Stewox | jademussreg, how is the project going |
| 00:13.31 | Stewox | want some more anwers ? |
| 00:13.44 | Stewox | aks me now before i go to bed |
| 00:14.45 | JademusSreg | There was only one question, though. And it wasn't answered concisely, haha |
| 00:16.26 | Stewox | why do you wait and not ask me again you had whole day |
| 00:16.39 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 00:16.59 | Stewox | 24 hours have passed since |
| 00:17.04 | Stewox | almost |
| 00:17.36 | A1win | whee fixed the input thread silliness |
| 00:19.25 | Stewox | are you going to aks me or wha |
| 00:19.45 | Stewox | since maybe your question wasn't good enough |
| 00:20.05 | Stewox | because I honestly had no idea what is genera- vs specific without context |
| 00:20.41 | JademusSreg | That's why I expressed the question in two ways. |
| 00:21.14 | Stewox | do you think this will work like that or what, or are you willing to explain in detail |
| 00:21.41 | Stewox | I don't know your implementation since you said you're going to do it your way |
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| 00:31.33 | Stewox | you're seriously going ridicolous right now |
| 00:31.42 | Stewox | so you don't even care anymore |
| 00:31.43 | Stewox | or what |
| 00:34.33 | JademusSreg | You appear to have numerous feelings about numerous things. |
| 00:46.36 | Kueken | whats his problem? |
| 00:47.19 | Dogmai | Taintedwisp |
| 00:47.49 | Dogmai | The way america sees attacks and the rest of the world, are completely different |
| 00:47.51 | Dogmai | I don' |
| 00:48.04 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 00:48.18 | Dogmai | I don't know anyone here who actually believes anyone is behind any attacks on US soil except for one group of people |
| 00:48.19 | Taintedwisp | I didnt comment on anything about that did I? |
| 00:48.23 | Dogmai | No |
| 00:48.26 | Dogmai | But you said whats up |
| 00:48.30 | Taintedwisp | oh |
| 00:48.31 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 00:48.31 | Dogmai | And we have good conversations |
| 00:48.34 | Dogmai | So I started a topic |
| 00:49.01 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 00:50.09 | Taintedwisp | I dunno whos behind what attacks, personally since obama has taken office, everything has been a scam, The shootings, the bombins, its all just been to push odumbasses agenda |
| 00:51.49 | Dogmai | The person in office doesn't make a difference |
| 00:52.02 | Taintedwisp | yeah but the political party thats in the majority does |
| 00:52.12 | Taintedwisp | and the democrats have had it for the past 5 years. |
| 00:52.18 | Dogmai | Google Port Arthur Massacre |
| 00:52.44 | Dogmai | Trust me, G.W.B was no saint |
| 00:52.52 | Dogmai | And he is a few corn dogs shy of a picnic |
| 00:53.22 | Taintedwisp | Oh i completely understand |
| 00:53.37 | Taintedwisp | Clinton, GW, and Obama are all shit, obama being the worst though -_- |
| 00:53.53 | Taintedwisp | Least the others didnt get caught red handed...... he was caught with a signed order giving guns to the cartel -_- |
| 00:55.06 | Dogmai | Never underestimate racism |
| 00:55.19 | Dogmai | If you hold that much power, you don't get caught doing shit |
| 00:55.28 | Dogmai | Unless you are either A) batshit stupid, or B) set up |
| 00:59.56 | motive | oh my god. |
| 01:00.03 | motive | this bullshit again |
| 01:01.09 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:01.32 | Taintedwisp | The problem ISNT racism, its thought who are too afraid to say something due to fear of being labled as a racist. |
| 01:01.42 | motive | No |
| 01:01.44 | motive | no, the problem's racism. |
| 01:02.00 | motive | Not blatant upfront racism. |
| 01:02.03 | motive | Just latent racism. |
| 01:02.04 | Taintedwisp | for example if I see a black guy breaking into peoples houses imma be the first one to say some black bastard is breaking into peoples houses |
| 01:02.07 | Taintedwisp | shut up yankee |
| 01:02.14 | Taintedwisp | your from the north, go live in your bubble |
| 01:02.21 | motive | Our bubble is nice, and shiny. |
| 01:02.34 | Taintedwisp | full of jersey too... soo it smells like pee |
| 01:03.40 | motive | Actually it smells really nice out now. New Jersey is truly beautiful in spring. |
| 01:03.56 | motive | And fall. |
| 01:05.14 | Taintedwisp | jersey is the butthole of the world |
| 01:05.20 | Taintedwisp | even france turns its nose at jersey |
| 01:05.30 | motive | New Jersey actually has the most highly educated workforce in the US. |
| 01:05.36 | Taintedwisp | Obviously not |
| 01:07.39 | motive | 36.6% of New Jersey residents have a bachelor’s degree or higher. |
| 01:07.41 | motive | That's awesome. |
| 01:11.52 | motive | Seriously, NJ has it's problems but it's a great place and has a really undeserved reputation. Most highly educated workforce, #2 highest income in the US, best schools in the country, proximity to the two largest cities in the east coast US and a massive public transit initiative to get you basically anywhere you want within the state, or Philly/DC/NYC/Boston. |
| 01:14.39 | motive | Also the whole state's basically a historic area. I live 10 miles from where Washington crossed the Delaware. The town I live in was the site of a major battle in the revolutionary war. |
| 01:17.18 | motive | We're also really environmentally friendly, surprisingly. Despite our high population and population density, we only use 2.7% of the total power generated in the US, which honestly surprises me. I knew NYC was the most power-efficient major city but damn. We rely on nuclear power for 50% of our energy output, we have large investment in the sciences with companies like Johnson & Johnson, |
| 01:17.19 | motive | Bristol-Myers Squibb, Hoffman-LaRoche, etc, all because of the hugely educated population, the list goes on. |
| 01:17.22 | motive | I'm done reading about my state now. |
| 01:17.23 | motive | Haha |
| 01:20.11 | Taintedwisp | dude the whole north sucks... |
| 01:21.59 | motive | If by sucks you mean makes more money than most of the country, has the #1 cities in the country, has the #1 universities in possibly the world, and a reputation for tolerance, then yes. |
| 01:24.24 | motive | http://www.today.com/moms/top-10-states-raise-your-child-1C7397995 |
| 01:24.26 | motive | And #1 place to raise kids. :) |
| 01:25.22 | Taintedwisp | If the people are fucking stupid they would raise kids in jersey |
| 01:25.26 | Taintedwisp | jersey blows. |
| 01:25.33 | Taintedwisp | Its like france # 2 |
| 01:25.54 | Taintedwisp | Bunch of stuck up douchebags, that smell like piss... |
| 01:25.59 | Taintedwisp | yup.... france 2 |
| 01:26.16 | motive | France is actually pretty cool. |
| 01:26.24 | motive | You're going to end up hating all the nice places on Earth. |
| 01:26.29 | Taintedwisp | and you just prov ed all my points... |
| 01:26.47 | Taintedwisp | you just lost all credibility as an american when you praised france |
| 01:26.48 | motive | I wouldn't want to live in France, personally, but it's a pretty chill place. |
| 01:38.02 | motive | yay |
| 01:38.04 | motive | the beast is slain |
| 01:39.26 | Kueken | the wisp? |
| 01:39.37 | motive | indeed |
| 01:39.37 | Kueken | yeah, thats a tough one |
| 01:42.22 | motive | it saddens me that my vote only counts as much as his |
| 01:42.23 | motive | T_T |
| 01:45.43 | Kueken | beware, the beast might have more heads to slay! |
| 01:45.52 | Kueken | (as in multiple irc accounts) |
| 01:46.04 | motive | so? haha |
| 01:46.10 | Kueken | :p |
| 01:46.42 | Kueken | well, lets say, he is a guy of strong opinions |
| 01:46.55 | motive | he tries to pass it off as trolling |
| 01:47.15 | motive | but it's really just pure unfiltered human stupidity |
| 01:47.55 | Kueken | oh, I got plenty of that too |
| 01:48.05 | motive | hahaha |
| 01:48.11 | motive | plenty < infinite |
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| 03:11.24 | JademusSreg | Zoop. |
| 03:23.48 | Kueken | There is too much Zooping in this channel. |
| 03:25.04 | Kueken | no constants in a struct, no static members, no methods :/ |
| 03:25.14 | Kueken | I miss Galaxy++ |
| 03:25.46 | JademusSreg | I know, tragic. But, there are ways to imitate method syntax. |
| 03:25.52 | JademusSreg | *But |
| 03:27.15 | JademusSreg | I've considered stuffing all the natives into structs with funcref members. |
| 03:27.44 | Kueken | never tried funcrefs or arrayrefs |
| 03:28.01 | JademusSreg | Oh, this will be fun, then. |
| 03:28.12 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/9scup |
| 03:28.14 | Kueken | do they work like unitref? take the string of an according variable? |
| 03:28.28 | JademusSreg | Not string. |
| 03:28.31 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 03:29.42 | Kueken | okay, I read about 5 lines, completely lost already |
| 03:29.53 | JademusSreg | This is an indispensable script. |
| 03:30.11 | JademusSreg | The huge doc section at the top didn't help? |
| 03:31.23 | Kueken | well |
| 03:32.18 | Kueken | what would it be used for? |
| 03:32.34 | JademusSreg | So it's basically a thread that always runs, and it has an array of functions it calls every update. |
| 03:32.56 | Kueken | and you can dynamically add or remove functions to the queue |
| 03:33.00 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 03:33.21 | JademusSreg | Modularity is key, after all. |
| 03:34.17 | Kueken | whats action_interface? It is declared but there is no function for it |
| 03:34.22 | JademusSreg | Precisely. |
| 03:34.26 | Kueken | or is it just a reference for the funcref |
| 03:34.42 | Kueken | ah |
| 03:34.52 | Kueken | so you can add functions matching the interface |
| 03:34.54 | JademusSreg | It exists only as a signature for the funcref. |
| 03:34.56 | JademusSreg | Correct. |
| 03:35.23 | Kueken | so any function added needs to have no parameter and bool return type |
| 03:35.33 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 03:36.52 | Kueken | okay, starting to make sense now |
| 03:39.05 | Kueken | so to add a function to the queue, do you need to use the Action_Queue type in your own script? |
| 03:39.22 | Kueken | or can you pass a generic function and it will fail when not matching the interface |
| 03:39.55 | JademusSreg | So long as it matches. |
| 03:40.14 | JademusSreg | So long as the signatures match, it works. |
| 03:41.00 | JademusSreg | Which is to say, if I understand your question, you don't. It does all the work itself. |
| 03:41.06 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/kqt3z |
| 03:41.09 | Kueken | okay, so you can just pass the name of the function you want to add, you don't need to manually turn it into a variable of type Action_Queue before you pass it |
| 03:41.36 | JademusSreg | Here's an example of Action being used. |
| 03:41.48 | JademusSreg | Scroll down to the bottom of the script. |
| 03:41.55 | JademusSreg | Aaaand that's it. |
| 03:42.25 | Kueken | geez, you are killing me |
| 03:42.39 | JademusSreg | I mean it's that single call at the bottom. |
| 03:42.42 | Kueken | yes |
| 03:42.52 | Kueken | :) |
| 03:43.11 | JademusSreg | Ah, I misunderstand in what way I am killing you. =D |
| 03:43.52 | Kueken | don't worry about it, its just that I am used to my... lets say rudimentary coding |
| 03:45.23 | JademusSreg | But yeah, for anything that needs to be updated every tick, Action is indispensable. <3 |
| 03:46.58 | JademusSreg | Eventually I'll code a new version of Controller to also make use of funcrefs to streamline input response registration. |
| 03:48.50 | Kueken | okay... I'm just gonna go with "Sounds good." |
| 03:49.22 | JademusSreg | You use structref? |
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| 03:50.09 | Kueken | not yyet |
| 03:50.37 | Kueken | can you pass struct instances as parameters with it? |
| 03:51.17 | Kueken | or what is it used for |
| 03:52.08 | JademusSreg | I've got an example for it. =D |
| 03:53.14 | JademusSreg | WIP version of new Dialog Utils. https://pastee.org/rjex6 |
| 03:53.39 | Kueken | of course you have |
| 03:55.26 | Kueken | happy dialogs, anything you code with them looks like an abomination in the end |
| 03:55.34 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 03:55.41 | Kueken | I hope your final version of dialogutils fixes that |
| 03:55.54 | JademusSreg | It's intended. |
| 03:56.35 | JademusSreg | It would be cleaner if I use an array for the properties. |
| 03:57.10 | JademusSreg | Control properties, but not doable with Dialog properties. |
| 03:57.49 | Kueken | are the structrefs useable like the funcrefs before, as in you just need a struct matching the struct of the structref? |
| 03:58.16 | Kueken | or would you rather create your own instances of the struct defined in the DialogUtils |
| 03:58.32 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure the types must match. |
| 03:59.01 | JademusSreg | I use typedefs to make using them more convenient. |
| 03:59.25 | JademusSreg | I'll provide an example of use. |
| 04:02.49 | JademusSreg | https://pastee.org/jt4d6 |
| 04:03.21 | Kueken | yes, I assumed as much |
| 04:03.43 | Kueken | still, way better than the usual load of crap you would need to pull |
| 04:04.04 | JademusSreg | Precisely. |
| 04:04.06 | Kueken | I assume its init.anchor? |
| 04:04.14 | JademusSreg | Yes, haha. |
| 04:04.24 | Kueken | don't want to nitpick, dont get me wrong |
| 04:04.30 | JademusSreg | I'm a bit intoxicated, so pardon the err. |
| 04:04.33 | Kueken | just making sure |
| 04:04.56 | Kueken | maybe you found some mystical new way to link the anchor |
| 04:05.32 | Kueken | I wonder if its practical to do the same thing with units |
| 04:05.54 | Kueken | so you can go caster.hp+=target.energy*.15 |
| 04:06.02 | Kueken | or whatever |
| 04:06.49 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:07.06 | Kueken | you would need a custom unit type ofc |
| 04:07.35 | Kueken | unless vanilla galaxy supports enrichments now |
| 04:07.41 | JademusSreg | And similar to my example, after you set the struct's values, you'd send them to a function to handle that shit. |
| 04:08.19 | JademusSreg | Next time the Blizz reps are here, will be useful to ask about any new galaxy features. |
| 04:08.41 | Kueken | so you would need to do caster.hp =x; caster.shield=y; UnitCommitChanges(caster); |
| 04:08.48 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:09.25 | Kueken | bummer |
| 04:10.20 | JademusSreg | I hate excessive parameter lists, so this new DialogUtils is intended to solve that and other issues. |
| 04:10.32 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 04:27.11 | Reaperguyver | Does anyone know what the behavior to modify kill bonus does? |
| 04:28.54 | Kueken | sounds like it either increases bounty for the unit it is applied to, or for the unit who kills a unit with this behavior |
| 04:30.08 | Reaperguyver | That's what I thought I'll have to test it some more and see if I can figure out which but either way that doesn't do what I had wanted it to do = / |
| 04:32.05 | Reaperguyver | Actually it appears to be doing neither... = / |
| 04:32.31 | JademusSreg | Which field? |
| 04:33.33 | Reaperguyver | under behavior modifications |
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| 04:33.40 | Reaperguyver | Kill Bonus |
| 04:33.53 | Reaperguyver | I was hoping it would increase the kill counter but it appear to be doing nothing? |
| 04:34.11 | JademusSreg | Why increase the kill counter? |
| 04:34.35 | Reaperguyver | to get veterancy faster? |
| 04:34.45 | JademusSreg | Uh. |
| 04:34.51 | JademusSreg | Sense is not being made. |
| 04:35.12 | Reaperguyver | Yeah the logic i used to make up thie aura didn't make much sense. lol |
| 04:35.36 | Reaperguyver | I figured an aura that gave people an extra kill or two to increase their veterancy to get the extra damage and armor would be nice. |
| 04:35.37 | JademusSreg | Veterancy is a behavior, and it increases levels with experience points. |
| 04:35.49 | JademusSreg | Kill counter != experience points |
| 04:35.51 | Reaperguyver | I thought it was based on kills in the basic game? |
| 04:36.07 | JademusSreg | You mean -unit ranks-? |
| 04:36.33 | Reaperguyver | not sure i know there is a modifiable option somewhere in the data editor where you get set the veterancy bonus. |
| 04:36.54 | JademusSreg | That is not the correct term. |
| 04:36.56 | Kueken | veterancy has nothing to do with the ranks units get in a melee game |
| 04:37.08 | Reaperguyver | oh... blast >.> |
| 04:37.25 | Reaperguyver | crap I'll have to come up with something else then to do as an aura. |
| 04:37.26 | JademusSreg | If you wanna just set the unit rank, you do so in the unit actor. |
| 04:37.49 | JademusSreg | If you want veterancy, you use a Veterancy behavior. |
| 04:38.20 | Reaperguyver | ick = / Alright. I'll just do something else then. |
| 04:43.06 | Reaperguyver | bah I hate creating support units right now >.< |
| 04:46.51 | JademusSreg | ? |
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| 04:57.19 | Reaperguyver | I was trying to create a support units that's main point was the aura buff that it gave out. I ended up going with a minor attack speed buff. |
| 05:07.14 | Kueken | and the aura should increase the kills rewarded? Sounds immensely useful :D |
| 05:09.27 | Reaperguyver | Well I couldn't figure out how to make it increase the kills then since veterancy isn't modified by kills I gave up on it since kills don't really do anything? |
| 05:12.07 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Tutorials - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/tutorials/ |
| 05:13.25 | Kueken | indeed |
| 05:13.39 | Kueken | not sure if you can increase experience rate |
| 05:48.35 | JademusSreg | I wonder if the code keyword is useful. |
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| 06:27.50 | Kueken | xD |
| 06:28.28 | Kueken | if you set values for the SoundSetVolume actor message in data, they get inverted when re-opening the event |
| 06:28.47 | JademusSreg | Yay. |
| 06:29.30 | Kueken | as in you enter something like .5@0 1@1000, meaning 50% volume at start, 100% after 1 second |
| 06:29.56 | Kueken | and if you open it again, you have 0@0.5 1000@1 |
| 06:30.48 | Kueken | also the changes do not seem to work ingame, regardless of the entered values, the sound will always play at 100% volume |
| 06:31.06 | Kueken | even when entering the actor message in xml directly |
| 06:31.42 | JademusSreg | That's the message in XML, yes? SoundSetVolume? |
| 06:31.50 | Kueken | sec, checking... |
| 06:32.12 | Kueken | <On Terms="ActorCreation" Send="SoundSetVolume Linear 0.100000@0.000000,0.100000@10000.000000"/> |
| 06:32.23 | Kueken | thats how the gui constructs it |
| 06:33.19 | JademusSreg | Send="SoundSetVolume Logarithmic -6.000000@0.000000,0.000000@3300.000000" |
| 06:33.43 | JademusSreg | Though the entire message may be more useful. |
| 06:33.53 | JademusSreg | <On Terms="ModelEvent; ModelEventName SoundSixToZero" Target="Doodad_NewFolsomPrisonTowerSound" Send="SoundSetVolume Logarithmic -6.000000@0.000000,0.000000@3300.000000"/> |
| 06:34.44 | JademusSreg | That's from a doodad. |
| 06:34.50 | JademusSreg | Here's from the Blimp unit. |
| 06:34.50 | JademusSreg | <On Terms="ActorCreation" Target="BlimpMovementSound" Send="SoundSetVolume Linear -18.000000@0.000000,-96.000000@1000.000000"/> |
| 06:35.07 | Kueken | heh |
| 06:35.24 | JademusSreg | They all have the target in common. |
| 06:35.41 | Kueken | so the actor message expects decibel, which is what you actually enter in the gui, but the constructed actor message passes a percentage |
| 06:36.03 | JademusSreg | Are you attempting this in the Sound actor? |
| 06:36.13 | Kueken | sure, if I use percentages, they are all close to 0, equalling full volume |
| 06:36.23 | Kueken | yes, in the sound actor |
| 06:36.40 | JademusSreg | PsionicShockwave sound actor uses this. |
| 06:36.41 | JademusSreg | <On Terms="ActorCreation" Send="SoundSetVolume Logarithmic 0.000000@0.000000,0.000000@1200.000000"/> |
| 06:36.48 | Kueken | and apparently solved it, just testing now |
| 06:39.59 | Kueken | ..or not |
| 06:40.08 | Kueken | still full volume, no matter what |
| 06:40.32 | Kueken | ah |
| 06:40.39 | Kueken | mistake, trying again :D |
| 06:41.36 | Kueken | alright, works |
| 06:41.44 | Kueken | stupid data editor |
| 06:41.47 | Kueken | I mean |
| 06:42.10 | Kueken | you enter the values as decibel |
| 06:42.20 | Kueken | the actor message expects them to be decibel |
| 06:42.42 | Kueken | but it converts them to a percentage and then writes them in the message |
| 06:43.06 | Kueken | thats beyond my logic |
| 06:47.12 | Kubi | damn |
| 06:47.14 | Kubi | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:57.10 | JademusSreg | Are the colonials tossing tea into the harbor again? |
| 06:57.33 | Kueken | well, fertilizer industry did get almost as many people as the bombs in boston |
| 06:57.57 | JademusSreg | I do not know was is being discussed here. |
| 06:57.59 | JademusSreg | *what |
| 06:58.53 | Kueken | bombs went off in boston, and just now there was apparently a shooting as well |
| 06:59.19 | Kueken | and in texas a fertilizer facility blew up |
| 06:59.37 | JademusSreg | Are shootings unusual in Boston? |
| 06:59.43 | Kueken | no idea |
| 07:00.18 | Kueken | its probably related to the bombs, thats why it gets more attention than usual |
| 07:00.39 | Kubi | They are saying |
| 07:00.46 | Kubi | they got 1 in custody |
| 07:00.49 | Kubi | on police scanner |
| 07:00.50 | Kubi | https://twitter.com/AKitz/status/325132600161234944/photo/1 |
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| 07:01.37 | JademusSreg | Whether or not the shooting is related is probably irrelevant at this point, given the sensationalist focus of news media. |
| 07:02.40 | Kubi | https://twitter.com/rafsanchez/status/325136382265794561 |
| 07:02.42 | Kubi | God damn it |
| 07:02.47 | Kubi | Hes dead |
| 07:03.16 | Eagles_ | freakin' dead terrorists |
| 07:03.59 | Kubi | Yeah |
| 07:04.05 | Kubi | I want them captured alive |
| 07:14.49 | Kubi | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:30.19 | Taintedwisp | Someone link me with some good shit.... some good music shit. |
| 07:31.01 | JademusSreg | Right after I further intoxicate myseldf. |
| 07:31.22 | Taintedwisp | NOW YOU FUCKING WHORE |
| 07:31.40 | Taintedwisp | I'm trying to get my modern music, on i dont know what you fucking kids listen to these days |
| 07:32.43 | JademusSreg | Pink Floyd, Led Zepplin, Queen, The Who, The Doors, et cetera. |
| 07:33.13 | Taintedwisp | dood i said current... |
| 07:33.18 | Taintedwisp | I know that shit is great but its not even close |
| 07:33.50 | Kueken | why should music be better just because it is more recent? |
| 07:34.04 | JademusSreg | If you've already got great music, why give a shit aobut what's contemporarily popular? |
| 07:34.40 | Taintedwisp | I was just curious as to if there was anything worth a shit that was current |
| 07:37.57 | Kueken | there probably is |
| 07:38.46 | JademusSreg | We're chatting on irc instead of whatever social shit is trendy atm, so not the best place to ask, I imagine. |
| 07:40.40 | Kueken | yeah, we need to access irc from a smartphone to be cool |
| 07:40.53 | Kueken|mobile | done! |
| 07:41.06 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
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| 08:01.29 | Taintedwisp | fucking out of date whipper snapper |
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| 08:11.34 | JademusSreg | wants to test unit performance; writes script for handling commands; strips list of console commands out of the memory. |
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| 08:23.15 | JademusSreg | Annoyingly, there are some commands that are wither blizz only or simply not in the client. |
| 08:38.07 | JademusSreg | Hahahaha |
| 08:39.31 | JademusSreg | Apparently one should not use console command to call TrigRun. |
| 08:41.08 | JademusSreg | Caused the following: Stack overflow and too many nested trigger threads. |
| 08:47.27 | JademusSreg | And the Zeus Lander unit moves in a not ridiculous way. |
| 08:47.59 | JademusSreg | Darn, except for turns behind it while moving. |
| 09:23.36 | Kueken | whats a Zeus Lander? |
| 09:23.43 | Kueken | a model? |
| 09:23.55 | JademusSreg | A campaign unit. |
| 09:24.15 | JademusSreg | Militarized Colonist Ship. |
| 09:24.35 | JademusSreg | It moves not stupidly for an air unit. |
| 09:26.33 | JademusSreg | Also found out the creep/uncreep commands have a permanent parameter. |
| 09:26.55 | JademusSreg | *bool parameter. |
| 09:27.13 | Kueken | so you can creep which you cannot uncreep again |
| 09:27.29 | Kueken | thats great news! it will revolutionize mapping! |
| 09:27.34 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 09:27.44 | JademusSreg | The what might is if ConsoleCommands work in multiplayer. |
| 09:27.54 | JademusSreg | I have yet to test. |
| 09:28.30 | JademusSreg | Anyway, currently testing them to see which work in the console and which don't. |
| 09:32.43 | JademusSreg | There seems to be no overlap between editor and game console commands. |
| 09:33.18 | Kueken | so browse won't work ingame? |
| 09:33.22 | Kueken | too bad |
| 09:35.09 | JademusSreg | I'm refering to the varset capability. |
| 09:37.13 | Kueken | lost again |
| 09:37.40 | Kueken | somehow I have the feeling I might annoy you, if I am wrong about that, you could give me an example |
| 09:37.51 | JademusSreg | In the editor, open the console, use varlist |
| 09:38.37 | JademusSreg | Don't worry, snark is amusing when well executed. |
| 09:39.08 | JademusSreg | And I certainly don't take shit seriously. =D |
| 09:39.12 | Kueken | googles snark... |
| 09:39.25 | Kueken | oh |
| 09:39.28 | Kueken | I did that before |
| 09:39.33 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 09:39.36 | Kueken | >.> |
| 09:39.48 | Kueken | that deserves a serious facepalm |
| 09:40.28 | JademusSreg | Have the editor in reach? |
| 09:40.33 | Kueken | damn google generation, getting used to look everything up instead of remembering oneself |
| 09:40.49 | Kueken | yes, typed varset in the console |
| 09:41.06 | Kueken | expects variable and value, obviously |
| 09:41.39 | JademusSreg | Are you familiar with UnitSetAIOption (unit inUnit, int inOption, bool inVal); ? |
| 09:41.52 | Kueken | nope |
| 09:42.49 | JademusSreg | Seems like there is only one option for it defined in natives. |
| 09:43.00 | Kueken | yes, I see that |
| 09:43.08 | Kueken | c_unitAIOptionUsable |
| 09:43.12 | Kueken | nothing else |
| 09:43.30 | JademusSreg | I'm attempting to determine if it modified its AI state or if it can enable the use of, say, tactical AI for player-controlled units. |
| 09:43.37 | Kueken | so you can deactivate specific units from being used by AI |
| 09:43.51 | JademusSreg | Yes, that, but that would be boring. |
| 09:43.56 | Kueken | :D |
| 09:44.10 | Kueken | well, thats my prediction for the outcome |
| 09:44.21 | JademusSreg | It takes an int. |
| 09:44.26 | JademusSreg | There's more to it. |
| 09:44.50 | Kueken | so you try magic numbers? :D |
| 09:44.56 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 09:45.32 | Kueken | then I am not following, the only int it takes should be covered by constants |
| 09:46.02 | Kueken | if you don't want to try literals beyond these constants, whats more to it then? |
| 09:46.04 | JademusSreg | There are more scripts between heaven and Aiur than are dreamt of in your philosophies. |
| 09:46.42 | Kueken | yeah, need to ask the dark coders of shakuras about that |
| 09:47.52 | JademusSreg | Naw, I consult with my heap of data. |
| 09:48.33 | Kueken | Praetor, Executor... who needs those? We got Constructor and Incrementor |
| 09:48.54 | Repo | New announcement: Swarm of Hearts (Charity) - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/swarm-of-hearts-charity/ |
| 09:49.26 | Kueken | a charity event in SC2? |
| 09:49.33 | Kueken | I smell ToS violation |
| 09:51.02 | JademusSreg | The value must be an overlap with a constant defined elsewhere. |
| 09:52.31 | Kueken | you mean like some of the dialogcontrol constants used for their properties are also used for trigger event actions regarding dialog controls? |
| 09:52.54 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 09:53.00 | Kueken | (not sure if thats actually accurate, but I am pretty sure I saw something similar) |
| 09:53.43 | JademusSreg | The value is 0, which suggests that the state is the "null" default state of an enum defined in a different script. |
| 09:54.16 | Kueken | well, we could at first use the function with the one constant we have to determine what it does anyway, then we could try literals to see if anything happens and if it does, search further for the appropriate constant |
| 09:54.49 | JademusSreg | I'm doing other stuff, atm, but that is a fine approach. |
| 09:55.59 | JademusSreg | I see a few possible enums. |
| 09:57.06 | JademusSreg | First, Unit Order Priorities in AI.galaxy |
| 09:58.37 | JademusSreg | Second, Melee Flags in BaseAI.galaxy |
| 09:58.52 | JademusSreg | And that's all that seems plausible. |
| 09:59.33 | Kueken | if one either their sets is 0 already, that should rule them out |
| 09:59.39 | Kueken | *of |
| 09:59.53 | JademusSreg | Also, see what GUI suggests? =D |
| 09:59.55 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 10:00.00 | Kueken | gui |
| 10:00.20 | Kueken | I would have eternally forgotten that |
| 10:00.42 | Kueken | (and that english shounds horrible, must be wrong) |
| 10:00.47 | Kueken | -h |
| 10:02.09 | Kueken | heh |
| 10:02.25 | Kueken | gui version also uses only one constant |
| 10:02.39 | Kueken | and in gui, it is called "Available for attack waves" |
| 10:02.50 | Kueken | so even more boring than my prediction |
| 10:06.18 | JademusSreg | Yes, that is consistent with the first option. |
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| 10:32.41 | A1win | mmh I wonder if I should do anything about the fact that people with widescreen aspect ratios can see more in this map D: |
| 10:35.38 | JademusSreg | Naw. |
| 10:35.51 | JademusSreg | The fix would be uglier than the slight advantage. |
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| 10:36.56 | Kueken | I use a 1280x1024 monitor, and it sucks for all intends and purposes |
| 10:37.11 | A1win | :x |
| 10:37.45 | Kueken | like 50% of new games start with a "Video mode not supported" message and me trying to find out how to launch the game in a different resolution or windowed mode |
| 10:38.05 | A1win | why not get a new one? |
| 10:38.24 | Kueken | lazy, I guess |
| 10:38.49 | Kueken | also, just by the format I am no huge fan of widescreen |
| 10:39.28 | A1win | pretty much everything I do is best done on a widescreen :P (watching videos and playing SC2) |
| 10:39.52 | Kueken | I might have weak peripheral vision, I even miss stuff on the screen edges now |
| 10:41.06 | Kueken | but well, just now I tried recording with fraps and encoding with movie maker |
| 10:41.26 | Kueken | and its a huge mess, like 50% of thei final video is covered in black bars |
| 10:41.33 | A1win | <.< |
| 10:41.47 | A1win | I use VirtualDub for encoding |
| 10:41.50 | Kueken | probably wrong settings or movie maker being shitty |
| 10:42.22 | Kueken | can you configure fraps to only record part of the screen? |
| 10:42.41 | A1win | nah, though it can record windowed mode too |
| 10:42.48 | Kueken | if I could make it only record a 1280x720 portion of the screen that would be great |
| 10:44.10 | A1win | ugh I can't think of a weapon I want to add to this map D: |
| 10:44.54 | A1win | I mean I can think of a lot of "special" weapons but would be nice to have variation in basic ones |
| 10:46.20 | Kueken | for the gravity thingy? |
| 10:46.26 | A1win | yeah |
| 10:46.29 | JademusSreg | Might be fun to use items and equipment slots to customize the ships. |
| 10:46.32 | Kueken | curved lazors |
| 10:46.35 | Kueken | do it! |
| 10:47.01 | A1win | curved lasers would require too much calculation I'm afraid |
| 10:47.17 | Kueken | would they? |
| 10:47.59 | JademusSreg | If one intends to subject them to gravity, yeah. |
| 10:48.20 | A1win | every point where they curve would require the same amount of computation as one projectile |
| 10:48.32 | JademusSreg | Raytracing like a motherfucker. |
| 10:49.19 | Kueken | :) |
| 10:49.22 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 10:50.22 | A1win | maybe I should just have varying projectile weapons as basic weapons, like the ones I had in the mothership map test |
| 10:50.37 | A1win | one that shoots 2 projectiles side by side, it's fun to see how they curve to different directions |
| 10:50.47 | A1win | though not sure how practical that'd be :P |
| 10:50.56 | A1win | maybe if they go rather fast compared to others |
| 10:51.59 | Kueken | or a projectile shooting new projectiles on impact |
| 10:52.15 | Kueken | or a projectie with a limited number of bounces |
| 10:52.30 | A1win | mm that would be neat |
| 10:52.37 | Kueken | a projectile with its own gravity |
| 10:53.11 | A1win | those could only fire like one at a time per player but maybe |
| 10:53.15 | Kueken | a projectile leaving a trail of either static or also gravity-affected objects |
| 10:53.27 | A1win | adding new centers of gravity adds computation to every other projectile |
| 10:53.55 | Kueken | so all gravity sources affect all projectiles at once at all times? |
| 10:54.10 | A1win | well there is a maximum distance, but otherwise yeah |
| 10:54.34 | Kueken | I can see where that could cause a lot of calculations :D |
| 10:54.40 | A1win | hehe |
| 10:55.05 | Kueken | I made a projectile-based map for WC3 once |
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| 10:55.18 | Kueken | sort of like Warlock, if you know that |
| 10:55.27 | A1win | I have 17 planets atm, started droppping fps at ~200 projectiles but some of them weren't even near the planets |
| 10:55.35 | A1win | don't think so |
| 10:55.57 | Kueken | well, it supported projectile collision, which drove calculations pretty high pretty fast as well |
| 10:56.35 | Kueken | checking every projectile position vs every other projectile when first trying |
| 10:56.41 | A1win | :x |
| 10:56.44 | Kueken | 40 projectiles and my pc died |
| 10:56.47 | A1win | haha |
| 10:56.57 | A1win | I only check projectiles against nearby planets and ships ;> |
| 10:57.45 | A1win | but projectile-to-ship and ship-to-ship collisions are calculated in 4 different points every time step, so it's even more accurate than every 0.0625 seconds |
| 10:58.01 | Kueken | switched to a grid structure eventually, making projectiles register in a cell and only do the actual collision checks if there are multiple projectiles in one cell |
| 10:58.38 | Kueken | anyway... |
| 10:58.43 | Kueken | moar weapons |
| 10:58.46 | A1win | I just use "units in region (circle around the unit)" native function to get nearby stuff :P |
| 10:58.56 | Kueken | yes |
| 10:59.05 | A1win | the collision stuff seems much less performance heavy than the gravity anyway |
| 10:59.52 | Kueken | target searching projectiles, which besides gravity are affected by a desire to reach their target? |
| 11:00.08 | Kueken | like an exclusive additional gravity point |
| 11:00.19 | A1win | I think I'll change this current weapon so that they seek to nearby enemy ships |
| 11:00.23 | A1win | as if they had gravity to them |
| 11:00.39 | A1win | otherwise it's quite difficult to hit anything :P |
| 11:00.44 | Kueken | :D |
| 11:01.41 | A1win | hah, a weapon that fires "explosions", like an invisible projectile that doesn't collide with anything (other than planets) and just creates an explosion every second or so |
| 11:01.50 | Kueken | make the ships bigger, call them asteroids and their gravity is big enouth to affect projectiles but not other ships |
| 11:02.03 | A1win | hehe |
| 11:02.26 | A1win | maybe the projectiles just have some way to slightly control their own movement :P |
| 11:02.58 | Kueken | so if we cannot get curved beams, maybe straight beams reflected by planets? |
| 11:03.28 | A1win | hmmh :x |
| 11:03.37 | Kueken | doesn't make sense scientificlly speaking but w/e |
| 11:03.40 | A1win | haha |
| 11:03.51 | A1win | well these planets have this weird "force field" on them anyway |
| 11:04.09 | Kueken | or they are just freaking mirror planets |
| 11:04.29 | Kueken | no, the inhabitants are all about green energy |
| 11:04.42 | Kueken | covered the whole thing with solar collectors |
| 11:06.11 | Kueken | maybe the ability to summon a strong gravity for a short time, sucking in all projectiles in an area. a black hole |
| 11:06.20 | Kueken | or whatever you wanna call it |
| 11:06.41 | A1win | point defense black hole |
| 11:06.50 | Kueken | :D |
| 11:07.18 | Kueken | occasionally consumes a planet here and there |
| 11:07.48 | A1win | might be neat to have some planetary defenses as well |
| 11:08.15 | Kueken | don't make them too good though |
| 11:08.20 | A1win | like "turns the planet into a temporary black hole" ;D |
| 11:08.36 | Kueken | if stationary play is too powerful, games usually get boring quite fast |
| 11:08.40 | A1win | mm |
| 11:09.17 | Kueken | maybe add some powerful camper killer weapon |
| 11:09.35 | Kueken | like a channeled beam or whatever that can blow up a planet |
| 11:09.44 | A1win | something that orbits a planet from two directions |
| 11:10.03 | Kueken | and make it respawn or something |
| 11:10.25 | Kueken | throwing scientific correctnes right out the window :D |
| 11:10.30 | A1win | hehe |
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| 11:11.51 | Kueken | or make the planets to stars instead, and channeling triggers an eruption |
| 11:12.12 | Kueken | ships can handle surface heat, but cannot handle an eruption |
| 11:12.16 | A1win | I still think the planet resource thing is a good anti-camping devise, your ammo replenishes by consuming a planet's resources, and once they are out, you need to go to another planet or wait for the resources to regenerate |
| 11:12.50 | G0A | A1win yeah that sounds nice |
| 11:12.53 | Kueken | well, that still promotes staying on a planet until its empty |
| 11:13.19 | G0A | it can be insta resource, like a pick up |
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| 11:13.50 | A1win | yeah but it's stil better than unlimited resources on the planets :P |
| 11:14.13 | A1win | I don't mean that as the only thing to prevent camping |
| 11:14.52 | A1win | should be quite easy to make it so that there's not much use to camp anyway, at least if the goal is to conquer planets |
| 11:15.26 | Kueken | also the gravity system itself should somewhat punish campers |
| 11:15.42 | Kueken | since its hard to hit someone unless he is holding still for a while |
| 11:15.58 | A1win | yeah there are only a few good angles where you can fire projectiles to long ranges from most planets |
| 11:16.18 | A1win | and you have to fire for a while to even see where the projectiles go :x |
| 11:16.40 | A1win | so it's easier to just fly to them and shoot their face |
| 11:18.51 | A1win | oh yeah I'll need explosions that can throw stuff around |
| 11:19.18 | A1win | so that you'll be able to blast your friend into outer space with a well-placed explosion |
| 11:19.31 | Kueken | yep, like a planet blowing up |
| 11:19.39 | Kueken | also you need wormholes |
| 11:20.22 | Kueken | could as well put a portal gun on a ship |
| 11:20.53 | Kueken | easy infinite looping projectiles right there :D |
| 11:22.15 | A1win | hmm weapons that are targeted directionless, so that you just click on the screen and it'll appear there no matter where your ship is (as long as the point is in range) |
| 11:23.03 | A1win | could use for things like force fields that bounce projectiles or the protoss time warp etc |
| 11:23.19 | A1win | with cooldowns obviously |
| 11:23.27 | Kueken | sticky grenades or mines, sticking to surfaces/planets/ships or just floating in space |
| 11:23.51 | A1win | mmm |
| 11:24.28 | A1win | there were a lot of "cave shooter" games by finnish developers in the 90s, they had some floating mines |
| 11:24.45 | A1win | there was also a thing that stuck to the air and exploded into tiny bullets (pixels) when shot at |
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| 11:25.25 | A1win | also, this needs a super baneling |
| 11:25.41 | Kueken | a baneling in a space suit |
| 11:25.43 | A1win | that you fire from the surface of a planet and control like a ship |
| 11:25.53 | A1win | (or like super sheep from worms) |
| 11:26.03 | Kueken | rolling through space of course |
| 11:26.59 | Kueken | so we also need holy hand grenade and banana bomb? |
| 11:27.06 | A1win | ;x |
| 11:27.37 | A1win | holy interplanetary nuclear missile |
| 11:28.27 | Kueken | that reminds me of this guy |
| 11:28.28 | Kueken | http://yugioh.wikia.com/wiki/Interplanetarypurplythorny_Dragon |
| 11:28.56 | Kueken | they seem to really run out of names |
| 11:29.14 | A1win | :P |
| 11:30.50 | A1win | gaah I'm too tired to develop stuff x_x |
| 11:31.30 | Kueken | thats great actually, your brain consumes all these ideas |
| 11:31.47 | Kueken | then you sleep, process them and tomorrow you are ready to make awesome stuff |
| 11:31.52 | A1win | :x |
| 11:32.04 | A1win | I just woke up :P |
| 11:32.10 | Kueken | heh |
| 11:32.36 | Kueken | thats gread because (has to make up another theory now....) |
| 11:33.00 | Kueken | dont worry, I will think of something |
| 11:36.44 | A1win | this is what this map is all about: http://joeginese.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/ball_pit.jpg |
| 11:36.55 | A1win | cosmic ball pit |
| 11:41.10 | Kueken | ooh |
| 11:41.48 | Kueken | then you need a weapon called "sheldon", traveling invisible and popping up at random locations, shouting "Bazinga!" |
| 11:42.38 | Kueken | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3Bpukvdbso |
| 11:43.09 | A1win | hehe |
| 11:44.47 | A1win | sounds like the explosion weapon I described earlier |
| 11:46.07 | A1win | bazinga sounds like the name of a weapon anyway |
| 11:46.08 | A1win | :P |
| 11:47.47 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 11:52.02 | JademusSreg | That was a fun drive home. Driver behind me had piercing blue halogen high beams on, but before one interprets as sarcasm the preceeding statement, consider the self-amusing sort of asshole I demonstrably am. Review mirror adjusted to shine it back at the driver, slowed to pace I felt would achieve optimal frustration to the driver behind, accelerating wherever the lanes would have allowed |
| 11:52.02 | JademusSreg | the driver to pass. Yes, I am quite amused. |
| 11:52.29 | JademusSreg | *rearview |
| 11:52.43 | A1win | :P |
| 11:53.14 | JademusSreg | Anyway, you're designing the new weapons? |
| 11:53.25 | A1win | kind of |
| 11:54.07 | JademusSreg | What have you got so far? |
| 11:54.21 | A1win | it's turned more like into "wouldn't it be cool if there was a sheep that can fly" kind of design |
| 11:54.23 | Kueken | yes, Jade, I agree, you seem to be quite a dick |
| 11:54.41 | JademusSreg | Yes, but a judicious dick. |
| 11:54.46 | Kueken | dont forget the sheldon bomb |
| 11:55.21 | A1win | I'm thinking I should have like 3 weapon slots |
| 11:55.23 | Kueken | I did read "juicy dick" at first, and some unpleasant pictures slipped my mind |
| 11:55.35 | JademusSreg | Hah |
| 11:55.42 | A1win | one for a basic weapon, one for something more special, and one utility slot that you can just target by clicking at a spot |
| 11:55.48 | Kueken | is going to google judicious |
| 11:56.13 | A1win | that one could have a weapon that you click on a planet and it instantly sends everyone on that planet away |
| 11:56.34 | A1win | and stuff like that |
| 11:56.42 | A1win | cooldown abilities |
| 11:58.26 | JademusSreg | Hm. If bases become a thing, could hijack the the inventory and hero equipment features and allow players to get their ships fitted at said bases. |
| 11:58.51 | A1win | yeah |
| 11:59.24 | A1win | conquerable planets that turn into bases, or just one base for each team or something |
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| 12:00.16 | A1win | maybe only have like 5 conquerable planets that act as "command points" that give you score while you control them |
| 12:00.50 | A1win | that might be better than having a goal of conquering all or whatever, would give constant length rounds |
| 12:01.25 | A1win | and if there are too many planets that can be conquered, it becomes very chaotic |
| 12:01.53 | A1win | everyone just conquering something all the time instead of also defending the conquered planets |
| 12:02.36 | A1win | so basically like Canal Zone (cz2) from team fortress classic |
| 12:03.37 | A1win | it has a few flags that respawn inside your command center, and you take the flags into 5 control points around the map |
| 12:03.55 | JademusSreg | And an odd number of strategic assets certainly helps to encourage confrontations. |
| 12:04.09 | A1win | mm |
| 12:04.44 | JademusSreg | 3 or 5 command points, like you said. |
| 12:05.53 | A1win | just not sure about the capture mechanic, could be "flags" that you carry from the base to the planets, making your ship heavier while carrying one, for example |
| 12:06.01 | A1win | but not sure if that's the best idea |
| 12:06.25 | A1win | but just sitting on them to capture doesn't sound very fun either |
| 12:07.43 | JademusSreg | Yar. |
| 12:10.08 | JademusSreg | It's more the asymmetry of strategic assets that matters, I meant. The bases I suggested previously were more in the sense of the usual team-versus starting areas, just a location where the players start and, assuming you have any interest in allowing respecs mid-play, a place to change equipment. |
| 12:10.24 | A1win | hmm I wonder how rope mechanics would work :P like dragging an object with your ship on a short rope |
| 12:10.52 | JademusSreg | Yesss. |
| 12:11.38 | JademusSreg | If you want actual rope-like visual characteristics, then you'll enjoy the Serpent actors. |
| 12:12.00 | JademusSreg | Serpent Head and Serpent Segment, iirc. |
| 12:12.38 | JademusSreg | A beam or tentacle alone wouldn't handle the visuals. |
| 12:12.56 | A1win | hmm |
| 12:13.19 | JademusSreg | Although if one used beams to connect the segments, then you'd have beams that bend themselves without need of script micromanaging them. |
| 12:13.51 | JademusSreg | That sounds too fun not to tinker with, but I'm in the middle of stuff, atm. |
| 12:17.04 | A1win | I don't really feel like scripting the rope stuff right now though <.< but I guess I'll do it at some point |
| 12:23.21 | A1win | mmh might be a bit too annoying if the rope stuff was used for something common like the capture mechanic, it might be better as a weapon/tool of some sort |
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| 12:35.40 | A1win | the more I think about it, the more it looks like it'd be the best that players need to land on the planets for short periods of time in order to up the capture progress... if it's something they need to bring there from the base, it might be easy to abuse by gaining velocity using explosions and stuff, and if it's something they need to destroy on the planet, it might be possible to find an angle where you can just shoot a stream of projectiles from ... |
| 12:35.46 | A1win | ... very far away to hit it |
| 12:36.05 | A1win | so maybe something like "sit here for 5 sec, wait for cooldown, repeat" |
| 12:36.16 | A1win | so that there's no use sitting there for long periods of time in a row |
| 12:36.26 | A1win | but it'd have to make sense in some way |
| 12:36.58 | JademusSreg | Perhaps a looser approach is needed. |
| 12:37.24 | A1win | meaning what? |
| 12:37.57 | A1win | thinking of other games, they don't really have very interesting capture mechanics either :X |
| 12:38.50 | JademusSreg | The gameplay is all about mobility, passive anything would be agony. Imagine instead that a contestable position is captured merely by having the greater presence. |
| 12:39.42 | A1win | mmh |
| 12:40.10 | JademusSreg | In mechanical terms, you need only be close to it, and the proximity adds to the influence your team has over the asset. |
| 12:40.22 | A1win | possibly |
| 12:40.38 | A1win | like Eye of the Storm in WoW :x |
| 12:41.21 | A1win | how close would it have to be though... |
| 12:41.35 | A1win | hmm I wonder if the maps could be clusters of planets rather than one big cluster |
| 12:41.41 | JademusSreg | So if you've got 2 players nearby, and one enemy player nearby as well, you gain influence over the area at a rate of 2 per period, and enemy player's team also gains influence at a comparable rate of 1 per period. |
| 12:41.45 | A1win | and each cluster is one command area |
| 12:42.38 | JademusSreg | A1, you can have multiple stages to try out these ideas. No reason not to test anything that seems interesting. =D |
| 12:42.46 | A1win | hehe |
| 12:49.43 | A1win | so like... 3 capturable clusters of planets, controlling team controls all planets and can use their resources to replenish ammo and stuff |
| 12:50.09 | A1win | and then one cluster of planets for each team's base |
| 12:50.34 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a good first draft. Look forward to testing. |
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| 13:21.17 | SaVi | Hey all :) |
| 13:21.27 | JademusSreg | Zugzug |
| 13:21.56 | SaVi | from wc3? ^^ |
| 13:22.36 | A1win | hmm, not sure if it's a good thing that players can reach escape velocity easily when the planets are not as close to each other as in the previous test |
| 13:25.40 | A1win | ah, just need to tweak it, small changes have big effects when dealing with gravity it seems ;p |
| 13:29.05 | Eagles_ | freakin' russian terrorists |
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| 13:35.22 | G0A | Eagles_ I know now why we no longer see Ducky here:D |
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| 13:35.42 | gooose | i want to make a behavior that removes the kill credit of a unit , but i dont know where to find the appropriate field |
| 13:37.09 | JademusSreg | Why a behavior? |
| 13:37.09 | gooose | ( the mineral/vespene reward that is) |
| 13:38.07 | gooose | i saw thatsomewhere before so i figured it would be easy |
| 13:38.43 | gooose | the stats kill credit field, what does it actually do? determine who gets the credit? |
| 13:39.16 | JademusSreg | Field in which data type? |
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| 13:39.50 | gooose_ | behavior - buff |
| 13:40.17 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it's an effect tree unit reference. |
| 13:41.39 | gooose_ | how would you handle removing the kill credit? |
| 13:43.01 | JademusSreg | Kill Credit or Kill Resource? |
| 13:44.17 | JademusSreg | And do you mean the Kill display or making a unit worth nothing when killed? |
| 13:44.56 | gooose_ | kill rescource |
| 13:45.16 | JademusSreg | Simply don't use the Kill Resource field. |
| 13:45.22 | gooose_ | i think i said mineral/vespene reward before i disconnected |
| 13:45.48 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Don't use the unit's Kill Resource field. |
| 13:45.48 | gooose_ | why is that? |
| 13:46.18 | JademusSreg | Because it can't be modified. |
| 13:46.59 | gooose_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:47.23 | gooose_ | not even fractional? |
| 13:47.34 | JademusSreg | That is (1) not data and (2) that's not doing what you think it's doing. |
| 13:48.28 | JademusSreg | Unit data has a field Kill Resource, for setting wc3-style bounty bonuses for units. |
| 13:48.44 | JademusSreg | So when you say Kill Resource, that's to what you refer. |
| 13:48.48 | gooose_ | yea |
| 13:49.09 | JademusSreg | And if you want to remove it in the future, don't use that field, use an effect instead. |
| 13:49.18 | gooose_ | so blizzard decided to make a filed that you cant modfy in a data nor in triggers??? |
| 13:49.52 | JademusSreg | Or rather, a buff behavior with a death response that applies a Modify Player effect to modify the killing player's resources. |
| 13:50.12 | JademusSreg | That is at least something you can remove. |
| 13:51.24 | gooose_ | mh..... so with both beeing pretty similar does Unit - Disable Any experience gain for (Triggering unit) work for it as well? |
| 13:52.12 | JademusSreg | It's not experience points. |
| 13:53.03 | gooose_ | well its kill rescource and kill experience couldve been the same reference |
| 13:53.07 | JademusSreg | Not sure why you'd even need to remove kill resources. If the unit is dead, it ceases to be an issue, I would expect. |
| 13:53.31 | gooose_ | well i gto unit spawners |
| 13:53.37 | gooose_ | they can be destroyed |
| 13:53.49 | JademusSreg | unit property Bounty |
| 13:54.08 | JademusSreg | Unit Set Property action |
| 13:54.12 | gooose_ | if one is destroyed the units of the other one should no longer give rescources to balance it |
| 13:54.51 | gooose_ | ah fuck :) blizzard isnt good at naming conventions ^^ |
| 13:55.03 | A1win | sounds more like a problem with design than implementation |
| 13:56.08 | JademusSreg | That's frequently my suspicion, haha. |
| 13:56.38 | gooose_ | well you can rebuild the spawners so balance is important, otherwise you d want to kill your own spawner to hurt the other team :) |
| 13:56.45 | gooose_ | ^^ |
| 13:57.49 | Dustin | Do we have access to edit a units Target Priority yet? |
| 13:58.08 | Dustin | Erm via catalog set in triggers |
| 13:58.26 | JademusSreg | Dunno. Never tried. |
| 13:59.44 | A1win | gooose_, if you need to make that kind of weird stuff to balance a feature, you should most likely consider redesigning the feature |
| 13:59.56 | gooose_ | ??? |
| 14:00.08 | A1win | if you want to make a game that makes sense |
| 14:00.21 | gooose_ | well whats compliacted about removing kill credit of your spawner if the other spawner is dead |
| 14:00.34 | gooose_ | *spawns |
| 14:00.47 | A1win | I didn't say it's complicated, it just doesn't sound like something that makes sense |
| 14:01.09 | gooose_ | well the point is: like that killing the opposing spawner wont hurt you |
| 14:01.55 | gooose_ | if your spawns would still give kill rescources you d try to kill your spawner and farm the opponents spawns |
| 14:02.27 | A1win | purpose is not the same thing as reason |
| 14:02.55 | A1win | the purpose is to balance the game, but the reason for why it works like that needs to be something that makes sense |
| 14:03.03 | A1win | I mean both the reason and the purpose should make sense |
| 14:03.39 | gooose_ | purpose: make the players like their spawners reason: otherwise they d hate them |
| 14:03.43 | gooose_ | makes sense? :P |
| 14:03.55 | A1win | no |
| 14:04.29 | gooose_ | ah you ll see ^^ |
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| 14:05.52 | A1win | it's like saying that the reason why earth is just far enough from the sun that it's not too hot or too cold is to allow it to support life |
| 14:07.02 | gooose_ | no its coincidence |
| 14:07.09 | JademusSreg | Aristotle is known for similarly hilarious philosophizing on natural phenomenon. |
| 14:07.19 | gooose_ | or to balance the fighe between deadly radiation and humans :P |
| 14:08.35 | A1win | so the reason why players don't hate the feature is that the feature is balanced, and the reason why the feature is balanced is because the kill credit is removed when one spawner is killed, and the reason why the kill c redit is removed when the spawner is killed is what exactly? |
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| 14:09.55 | gooose_ | if it wouldnt be that way the team that LOST a spawner would get rescources while the other one wont |
| 14:11.16 | A1win | that's circular logic |
| 14:12.01 | gooose_ | well if you destroy something that your opponent owns you dont want to hurt yourself do you? |
| 14:12.21 | JademusSreg | This is some good, Laurie-and-Fry schtick going on here, but I've gotta get a nap. bbl |
| 14:12.29 | A1win | why does it have to remove the kill credit and not do something else entirely? |
| 14:13.01 | gooose_ | like? |
| 14:13.15 | A1win | I don't know anything else about the map, can't answer that |
| 14:13.50 | A1win | I'm just saying it doesn't sound like something that makes sense, and it might be a good idea to reconsider the feature (but I could be wrong) |
| 14:14.05 | A1win | or maybe you don't care either way ;3 |
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| 14:15.42 | gooose | well its like star battle but far better with respawn terrain etc |
| 14:15.55 | gooose | a base and no stupid autofire |
| 14:15.58 | A1win | no idea what's star battle :x |
| 14:16.58 | gooose | you know the first map that climbed the popularity list in 2010 and stayed there until now |
| 14:17.02 | A1win | skimmed through a video |
| 14:17.05 | gooose | it was better back then ^^ |
| 14:17.09 | A1win | I don't play custom maps ;p |
| 14:17.37 | gooose | now its just fly close to an enemy ship with as many allies as possible and hope your ship is the fastest |
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| 14:27.10 | Kubi | STFU |
| 14:27.11 | Kubi | HO |
| 14:27.11 | Kubi | WE |
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| 14:32.17 | goooose | should work right? |
| 14:32.41 | A1win | can't you modify bounty with behaviors? |
| 14:33.16 | goooose | nope didnt finad a field for that |
| 14:33.22 | goooose | *find |
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| 14:35.35 | goooose | so yea it works |
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| 14:53.23 | SaVi_ | How can i delete the ground so there is just fog like in the "Lab-Missions" of the Campaign? |
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| 15:05.57 | A1win | cool, "laser" projectiles that fade out over 8 seconds and then disappear |
| 15:06.11 | A1win | fires rapidly and two side by side |
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| 15:12.22 | SaVi | wtf why does the IRC stop after a few minutes |
| 15:12.48 | A1win | the webchat server/application is not working properly |
| 15:14.06 | SaVi | Are you using the IRC-Software or are you in your browser too? |
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| 15:14.40 | A1win | software |
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| 15:15.21 | A1win | I'm using an SSH client to connect on a unix server that is running Irssi, which stays online all the time |
| 15:15.30 | A1win | so I can just log in and see that chat like I left it ;p |
| 15:17.01 | SaVi | haha :D |
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| 15:18.05 | SaVi | I never understood it for years how everyone removes the ground without having werid cliffs till now when I found the "Hide lowest Terrain Cells" field >.< |
| 15:19.22 | G0A | SaVi yeah, I discovered that about 1-2 month ago too |
| 15:19.35 | G0A | maybe I should have used terrain editor more |
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| 15:37.37 | SaVi | I want to create a Animation in which a Marine jumps into a portal |
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| 18:00.19 | gooose | i got a little problem: |
| 18:00.57 | gooose | this trigger SHOULD cause upgrades to be researched for all players on the players team |
| 18:00.58 | gooose | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3107 |
| 18:01.05 | gooose | however it works ONCE |
| 18:01.58 | gooose | the only explaination i can think of is changing the local variable actually changes the global one |
| 18:02.17 | gooose | the "south team" text tag is not created the second time |
| 18:02.32 | gooose | so is that the case or am i chasing the bug at the wrong end? |
| 18:03.28 | queerNo1 | well not seems llike the global players group should be changed in this trigger |
| 18:04.32 | gooose | yea the collapsed stuff is just for left and right team, so it should not |
| 18:05.41 | A1win | player group variables use pointers |
| 18:06.33 | A1win | so if you set a local player group variable = some global player group variable and then do something to the local one, it affects the same player group |
| 18:06.33 | gooose | whaaat??? ^^ |
| 18:06.43 | gooose | ahhh |
| 18:06.52 | gooose | ok so i ll have to use copy of player group? |
| 18:06.56 | A1win | if you want a copy into the variable, use local group = copy of(global group) |
| 18:07.05 | gooose | now that function makes sense ^^ |
| 18:07.09 | A1win | there's a Copy Of Player Group function |
| 18:07.43 | gooose | yea i knew about it but i didnt know why it existed |
| 18:08.20 | A1win | same thing with unit groups |
| 18:10.39 | gooose | ty so i was right but i just didnt understand why :P |
| 18:13.17 | gooose | one more question: does this trigger prevent the upgrade from going above maximum lvl? |
| 18:13.36 | gooose | i do have a requirement (use & show) in place for lvl 5 |
| 18:14.06 | A1win | shouldn't be able to go above maximum |
| 18:14.17 | gooose | so if 2 players research it and one finishes lvl 5 will the second upgrade be aborted? |
| 18:14.42 | gooose | k ty |
| 18:14.45 | A1win | dunno |
| 18:15.43 | gooose | do researches work like cast times? |
| 18:16.05 | gooose | actually: does the production count as cast or prepare time |
| 18:16.27 | A1win | neither I'd think |
| 18:16.29 | A1win | or what do you mean? |
| 18:16.56 | gooose | well prepare time --->cast stage --->cast time -->cast |
| 18:17.21 | gooose | so if the upgrade is completed at cast |
| 18:17.23 | A1win | I think they use their own set of stages |
| 18:17.35 | gooose | mh... |
| 18:17.36 | A1win | as you can see in ability used event choices |
| 18:17.41 | gooose | well i ll see once i release my map ^^ |
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| 18:26.52 | gooose | ~think about this: the next statement is true; the previous statement is false |
| 18:26.52 | purl | that's too long, gooose |
| 18:27.03 | Taintedwisp | ~fuck you purl |
| 18:27.06 | gooose | ~the next statement is true; the previous statement is false |
| 18:27.06 | purl | ...but next statement is already something else... |
| 18:27.40 | gooose | ~INFINITY divided by 0 |
| 18:27.48 | gooose | ~1/0 |
| 18:27.56 | gooose | did i kill it? |
| 18:28.18 | gooose | ~2/0 |
| 18:28.24 | gooose | ~purl? |
| 18:28.24 | purl | i heard purl is arrogant |
| 18:28.27 | gooose | fuck |
| 18:28.35 | gooose | ~2/ 0 |
| 18:28.39 | gooose | ~2 / 0 |
| 18:28.44 | gooose | ~purl |
| 18:28.44 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is arrogant |
| 18:28.53 | gooose | ~goose |
| 18:28.53 | purl | Statistical library.. URL: http://www.gnu.org/software/goose/ |
| 18:29.01 | gooose | ~gooose |
| 18:29.01 | purl | somebody said gooose was a water-dwelling avian specimen with 3 testicles. |
| 18:29.16 | gooose | ~purl is annoying |
| 18:29.19 | gooose | ~purl |
| 18:29.19 | purl | purl is, like, arrogant |
| 18:29.31 | gooose | ~poo is delicious |
| 18:29.31 | purl | ACTION summons a troop of flying monkeys to fling their poo at is delicious |
| 18:29.42 | gooose | ~poo |
| 18:29.42 | purl | poo is smelly |
| 18:29.47 | gooose | wait....^^ |
| 18:29.49 | gooose | lol |
| 18:30.08 | gooose | ~poop is delicious |
| 18:30.08 | purl | ACTION poops on is delicious |
| 18:30.22 | gooose | ~poop=delicious |
| 18:30.26 | gooose | ~poop |
| 18:35.27 | motive | what the fuck |
| 18:35.52 | gooose | ~motive |
| 18:35.52 | purl | [motive] an evitom. |
| 18:35.59 | gooose | ~evitom |
| 18:36.07 | gooose | owned |
| 18:40.10 | Taintedwisp | ~poop goose |
| 18:40.10 | purl | ACTION poops on goose |
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| 18:43.43 | Kubi | TaintedWisp |
| 18:43.47 | Kubi | Hows evo frenzy doing |
| 18:43.51 | Taintedwisp | yo? |
| 18:43.58 | Taintedwisp | ehhh... pretty good, why? |
| 18:44.08 | Taintedwisp | havent had a chance to get a video made yet though |
| 18:45.31 | Kubi | im am ashamed. |
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| 18:49.06 | Taintedwisp | what about yours kubi? |
| 18:49.26 | Taintedwisp | not to mention i have that prick incenerate going around running his mouth :/ |
| 18:50.10 | Kubi | lol |
| 18:50.11 | Kubi | hes map |
| 18:50.14 | Kubi | is in disarray |
| 18:50.16 | Kubi | what he sayin |
| 18:52.29 | Kubi | He basically change some models to HotS ones, and added dhaka as the only hero |
| 18:52.30 | Kubi | its funny |
| 18:52.37 | Kubi | hardly hots at all |
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| 18:52.45 | Kubi | also ragdolls are not configured |
| 18:52.54 | Kubi | and |
| 18:52.58 | Kubi | major imbalances |
| 18:53.08 | Kubi | dkaka is single handledly the best best hero right now |
| 18:55.08 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 18:58.44 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pojaEXIHrF8 pew pew |
| 19:00.05 | guse | pew pew |
| 19:00.11 | guse | http://snag.gy/XW73M.jpg |
| 19:06.23 | Kueken | A1win: is that video not encoded? |
| 19:06.31 | Kueken | it loads terribly slow for me |
| 19:06.41 | Kueken | os is it just my internet acting up |
| 19:06.49 | A1win | should be |
| 19:06.50 | Kueken | *or |
| 19:07.34 | Kueken | on 360p I cannot watch it without buffering :D |
| 19:07.41 | A1win | <.< |
| 19:07.50 | A1win | when I open the page it's already loaded to 80% :P |
| 19:07.57 | A1win | it's like 18 MB |
| 19:08.08 | Kueken | well, my internet suck, but not so badly usually |
| 19:08.17 | Kueken | *bad |
| 19:08.21 | Kueken | *sucks |
| 19:08.29 | Kueken | typing sucks too apparently |
| 19:08.46 | Kueken | hm |
| 19:09.00 | Kueken | speedtest says I get 6k of my 16k line |
| 19:09.07 | Kueken | should suffice for 720p |
| 19:09.11 | Kueken | weird |
| 19:09.21 | A1win | could be just youtube too |
| 19:10.09 | Kueken | well, I saw the usual weapon and the double shot, anything else coming? ;) |
| 19:10.37 | A1win | nah |
| 19:10.41 | A1win | just flying around with those |
| 19:10.49 | Kueken | it loaded 20 seconds on 360p since first statement >.< |
| 19:12.40 | A1win | and youtube encodes everything anyway |
| 19:12.49 | A1win | even if you upload raw video |
| 19:13.01 | Kueken | ah |
| 19:13.24 | Kueken | just doesn't make sense because of like 50 time supload time, I guess :D |
| 19:13.33 | A1win | mm :x |
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| 20:00.00 | Lakshun | hi |
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| 20:27.24 | Lakshun | is it just me or is the structure of SC2 a total clusterf***? |
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| 20:53.39 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ktvTqknDobU&lc=VzLjDw3biKKjIvWpzoIyqfHX8xuJF1Dpakw_mqLC41Y first recent song in a LONG time i have liked |
| 20:53.47 | Taintedwisp | has a good message too |
| 20:55.30 | IskatuMesk | dem copy pasta cd sounds |
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| 20:57.04 | Lakshun | this song is pretty good |
| 21:05.31 | IskatuMesk | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/audio/51711-black-sun-sfx-resource/ |
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| 21:17.51 | IskatuMesk | dat ahli |
| 21:19.33 | IskatuMesk | dat jademussreg |
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| 22:28.30 | Reaperguyver | Does anyone know the behavior linked to the kerrigan ability that allowed her to spawn broodlings when she killed a unit? |
| 22:29.44 | Fate | sure its a behav. ? it could also be a weapon effect |
| 22:30.08 | Reaperguyver | I'll look under that too. I know it's not an ability though, |
| 22:32.01 | Reaperguyver | Found an effect called corruption and attactched to it it has a spawn broodling effect so I'll try that next. Thank you. |
| 22:32.48 | Fate | :) |
| 22:46.28 | sharf | Jademus you there? |
| 23:04.00 | A1win | took a bit longer video than the previous one, shows all the currently implemented features: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kggpdh_lDuc |
| 23:24.53 | A1win | anyone know anything about video capture cards? D: |
| 23:35.13 | motive | They got the 2nd suspect in the boston bombing surrounded :D |
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| 23:45.26 | zeldarules28|AFK | lol I had the wrong name ^.^ |
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