| 00:00.48 | Kueken | then some random attention-whoring catchphrase |
| 00:00.52 | Kueken | Psionic Overdrive |
| 00:00.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster GargajCNS (~gargaj@catv-89-132-122-43.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 00:01.08 | GargajCNS | so um |
| 00:01.09 | GargajCNS | hi |
| 00:01.11 | A1win | unrelated ;p |
| 00:01.12 | A1win | hello |
| 00:01.21 | RooKz | path of the xel'naga secrets |
| 00:01.23 | Kueken | indeed, thats the point ;) |
| 00:01.24 | GargajCNS | anyone knows this map thing called Photon Cycles |
| 00:01.24 | RooKz | nah too long |
| 00:01.25 | RooKz | :D |
| 00:01.38 | A1win | GargajCNS, it's JademusSreg's map |
| 00:01.44 | GargajCNS | oh sweet |
| 00:01.52 | GargajCNS | apparently it has my music and i dont remember giving permission |
| 00:01.56 | A1win | but he's probably not around, or at least hasn't talked in a while |
| 00:02.00 | RooKz | who just so happens to be the main mod of this IRC |
| 00:02.12 | Kueken | jade is a mod? o_0 |
| 00:02.22 | RooKz | moderator, right? |
| 00:02.26 | RooKz | on sc2mapster |
| 00:02.26 | A1win | on the forums |
| 00:02.29 | A1win | not on this IRC |
| 00:02.36 | A1win | but anyway |
| 00:02.43 | Kueken | I thought he is just the general go-to guy for all kinds of editor stuff, no actual moderating rights in irc |
| 00:02.59 | A1win | GargajCNS, send him a pm with /msg JademusSreg message |
| 00:03.00 | Kueken | on mapster, yes :D |
| 00:03.34 | A1win | (or on the forums) |
| 00:04.02 | Kueken | photon cycles uses music nowadays? |
| 00:04.02 | GargajCNS | A1win: not that interested, cos i mean damage is done, but of course the irony is if he wouldve asked for permission i wouldve given him a 1) proper long version that's not edited down to 4 minutes and 2) not compressed to death |
| 00:04.05 | *** join/#sc2mapster RooKz_ (48d098ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.208.152.202) |
| 00:04.11 | RooKz_ | sigh |
| 00:04.12 | GargajCNS | according to http://gadrian.wikispaces.com/Photon+Cycles anyway |
| 00:04.14 | RooKz_ | dc |
| 00:05.50 | A1win | a lot of people use music without a permission, didn't think of him as one of them though :P but I might be wrong |
| 00:06.09 | Kueken | well, usually Jade is quite active in this channel, so if you stick around, he will most likely answer you. Otherwise leaving him a message on the forums is probably your best bet |
| 00:06.40 | GargajCNS | with all due respect i dont think i'm the one who should be making an effort to contact him. |
| 00:06.40 | RooKz_ | thats what I meant ^^ |
| 00:06.51 | RooKz_ | most active sc2mapster mod in this channel |
| 00:07.54 | A1win | GargajCNS, well, if he hasn't contacted you so far, you can either contact him or do nothing :x it's unfortunate but those are pretty much the options |
| 00:08.55 | RooKz | photon cycles was cool, but there was latency :/ |
| 00:09.05 | A1win | there is always latency in every map |
| 00:09.32 | RooKz | it matters for the style of map |
| 00:09.33 | RooKz | :P |
| 00:09.38 | A1win | yeah |
| 00:10.01 | RooKz | kickbuttcraft |
| 00:10.08 | GargajCNS | considering the irclogs i found of him looking for tracks are from 2011 i think there's pretty much no point running after a 2 year old incident |
| 00:10.23 | RooKz | ur running outta options a1, there's only so many titles not taken in the world |
| 00:10.34 | GargajCNS | although i find some delicious irony in the fact that whoever recommended him the track pointed out that he should contact the author |
| 00:10.38 | GargajCNS | http://ibot.rikers.org/%23sc2mapster/20110419.html.gz |
| 00:10.40 | A1win | RooKz, haha, you'd be surprised |
| 00:10.52 | A1win | english language has a lot of words ;) |
| 00:10.59 | RooKz | its like |
| 00:11.00 | RooKz | I know |
| 00:11.08 | RooKz | 400 billion or soemthing, just a guess |
| 00:11.11 | RooKz | i know its a lot |
| 00:11.13 | GargajCNS | anyway. |
| 00:12.02 | Kueken | if he didn't want to contact jade, what was his point now? |
| 00:12.24 | Kueken | well, w/e |
| 00:12.35 | RooKz | according to some random site |
| 00:12.42 | RooKz | there's like 250k |
| 00:12.52 | RooKz | I'd say its more like 2 million |
| 00:13.02 | A1win | RooKz, this might give you some idea of how many combinations of words there can be, it's about Twitter messages (a lot longer than a title) but the basic idea is the same: http://what-if.xkcd.com/34/ |
| 00:13.44 | A1win | also everyone should read all posts in that What If? blog :D they are awesome |
| 00:13.46 | Kueken | call it "To Power and back - A Probe's Tail" |
| 00:14.06 | Kueken | *tale |
| 00:14.48 | A1win | players are SCVs, probe is only for special people, like me ;] |
| 00:15.03 | A1win | (and probably as achievement stuff if I ever get to that point) |
| 00:16.51 | Kueken | then call it "A Mess in Data" |
| 00:16.56 | A1win | :P |
| 00:17.21 | A1win | I'll call it Param/Value |
| 00:17.40 | Kueken | damn, cannot top that |
| 00:18.02 | Kueken | Param/Value/YesThisIsSupposedToBeHere |
| 00:18.56 | Kubi | Anyone have a link to progammers deflective shield |
| 00:19.00 | Kueken | Symphony in data minor? |
| 00:20.49 | A1win | space rocks omnomnom |
| 00:23.00 | RooKz | I spent the last 20-30 minutes reading that |
| 00:23.02 | RooKz | good stuff |
| 00:23.58 | RooKz | I dont know all 250k words though |
| 00:23.59 | RooKz | :P |
| 00:24.06 | A1win | hehe |
| 00:24.36 | RooKz | Programming 101...how to learn to program in binary |
| 00:24.38 | RooKz | lolz |
| 00:24.41 | RooKz | its a joke |
| 00:25.03 | RooKz | probably been told b4 |
| 00:26.15 | RooKz | hey A1win |
| 00:26.16 | RooKz | Hero Abilities, Hero Name, and maybe some more missions... |
| 00:26.19 | RooKz | PFFT! |
| 00:26.21 | RooKz | fail |
| 00:26.28 | RooKz | http://creativitygames.net/random-word-generator |
| 00:26.44 | RooKz | that ^^ |
| 00:26.50 | RooKz | you may have seen that in search |
| 00:26.52 | RooKz | idk |
| 00:27.00 | RooKz | looks good |
| 00:27.31 | A1win | heh |
| 00:28.13 | RooKz | onion finance |
| 00:28.15 | RooKz | :P |
| 00:28.30 | RooKz | there's your new craftcraft lol |
| 00:29.01 | A1win | clearly |
| 00:30.10 | RooKz | muslim gossip |
| 00:30.16 | RooKz | there's your new craftcraft |
| 00:30.26 | A1win | I'll call it New CraftCraft |
| 00:30.41 | A1win | so much better |
| 00:30.53 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:31.15 | RooKz | this isnt working |
| 00:31.22 | A1win | ;x |
| 00:31.24 | RooKz | I need it to find words matching a theme |
| 00:31.36 | A1win | well, it expands my awareness of the possibilities |
| 00:31.44 | A1win | then one day, it'll just appear out of nowhere |
| 00:31.51 | A1win | that's how it always works :P |
| 00:32.22 | RooKz | it never works that way for me |
| 00:32.23 | RooKz | i make it |
| 00:32.25 | RooKz | I dont stumble into it |
| 00:32.26 | RooKz | its my baby |
| 00:32.31 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:32.36 | A1win | ;p |
| 00:33.21 | A1win | SCV's Adv entures in Wonderland |
| 00:33.25 | A1win | -space |
| 00:33.36 | A1win | still haven't gotten used to this new keyboard :P |
| 00:33.57 | A1win | Space Construction Vehicles |
| 00:34.16 | RooKz | I came up with a new acronym for scv |
| 00:34.18 | A1win | if only it was in space, that'd be the perfect name ;[ |
| 00:34.26 | RooKz | science control vehicle |
| 00:34.59 | A1win | except that it's not a good idea to name a map based on something in SC because then it'll never show up on google or anything :P |
| 00:35.01 | RooKz | subterranean construction vehicles |
| 00:35.29 | Kueken | same crap vhatever |
| 00:35.37 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:35.38 | A1win | :P |
| 00:35.44 | RooKz | I think its great |
| 00:36.20 | RooKz | satan came up on random word gen |
| 00:36.21 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:36.25 | RooKz | stupid thing |
| 00:37.01 | Kueken | yeah think of a cool abbreviation first, then make up a name for it |
| 00:37.23 | RooKz | OOOH |
| 00:37.26 | RooKz | smart |
| 00:37.41 | Kueken | the obvious example being P.E.N.I.S. |
| 00:37.44 | A1win | those are called backronyms :P |
| 00:37.48 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:38.03 | RooKz | really kuek? |
| 00:38.05 | RooKz | really? |
| 00:38.23 | RooKz | Im in the mood for Conquest |
| 00:38.29 | Kueken | if it were my map, everyone would think I am swedish... |
| 00:38.33 | A1win | Judo Nun Kitten |
| 00:38.35 | RooKz | C.O.N.Q.U.E.S.T. ? |
| 00:38.44 | Kueken | naw too long |
| 00:38.48 | RooKz | :( |
| 00:39.05 | RooKz | R.O.B.O.T. |
| 00:39.08 | RooKz | :P |
| 00:39.11 | Kueken | T.it.S |
| 00:39.19 | RooKz | really... |
| 00:39.44 | Kueken | yeah, I am that immature :) |
| 00:39.53 | RooKz | C.H.A.M.B.E.R. |
| 00:40.13 | Kueken | which part of "too long" didn't you get? :p |
| 00:40.21 | RooKz | V.A.U.L.T. |
| 00:40.25 | RooKz | perfect |
| 00:40.26 | RooKz | :P |
| 00:40.33 | A1win | acronyms that are words themselves are too lame ;p |
| 00:40.51 | A1win | it sounds like something from a 50s spy adventure |
| 00:40.54 | RooKz | YOU JUST SAID |
| 00:41.05 | RooKz | Space Construction Vehicles |
| 00:41.07 | Kueken | also how would you do Vault? Veil at ur lower thy? |
| 00:41.13 | A1win | SCV is not a word :P |
| 00:41.16 | A1win | it's an acronym |
| 00:41.26 | A1win | *just an acronym |
| 00:41.39 | RooKz | W.A.L.R.Y.U.S. |
| 00:41.41 | Kueken | okay, call it Tofu |
| 00:41.58 | RooKz | W.A.L.R.U.S. |
| 00:42.23 | RooKz | R.E.K.K |
| 00:42.34 | RooKz | Z.P.A.A.A.C.E |
| 00:42.41 | A1win | that isn't very helpful :P |
| 00:42.48 | RooKz | Z.P.A.C.E |
| 00:42.52 | RooKz | ? |
| 00:43.05 | Kueken | no, but it clutters irc and wastes time |
| 00:43.10 | Kueken | wasn't that the point? |
| 00:43.12 | A1win | oh, in that case... |
| 00:43.28 | RooKz | A.1.W.I.N. |
| 00:43.30 | Kueken | :p |
| 00:43.49 | Kubi | Ohh I was so cute as a amatuar map maker, I had an ability with a set with only 1 effect in it |
| 00:44.07 | Kueken | Kubi: so what? |
| 00:44.08 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:44.22 | A1win | it'd still work ;> |
| 00:44.23 | RooKz | Space.Awesome. |
| 00:44.25 | RooKz | S.A. |
| 00:44.43 | Kueken | as long as you make it look awesome it can still be a good spell :) |
| 00:45.14 | RooKz | The Quest To Find A Xel'Naga Vault Secret T.Q.T.F.A.X.N.V.S |
| 00:45.19 | A1win | there is a Half-Life mod called Science & Industry, that'd been an awesome name if it didn't already exist |
| 00:45.21 | Stewox | mmmmhhhhmmm i love the smell of truth in the morning http://www.infowars.com/85-of-cops-say-gun-control-is-useless-detrimental/ |
| 00:45.47 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caKuiTOaBkA |
| 00:45.49 | Kubi | Its this spell |
| 00:45.56 | RooKz | WTF science and industry is what u want ur name to be??? |
| 00:46.00 | RooKz | what kind of uncreative... |
| 00:46.02 | RooKz | call it... |
| 00:46.03 | Stewox | fallen asleep with something i wanted to say half written |
| 00:46.07 | A1win | ;3 |
| 00:46.10 | RooKz | Digging and Building |
| 00:46.20 | A1win | but that doesn't sound cool o: |
| 00:46.30 | RooKz | yea, its not creative |
| 00:46.37 | RooKz | its so...retarded... |
| 00:46.51 | RooKz | at least it isnt Space.Awesome. |
| 00:46.56 | RooKz | please dont use that |
| 00:47.03 | Ahli | I've a lot of sets that might only have 1 or even 0 effects in them ;) |
| 00:47.05 | Kubi | huh |
| 00:47.21 | Kubi | My spell is gay |
| 00:47.22 | Kubi | you say? |
| 00:48.08 | Kueken | nope, it might be gay, but we don't know that for certain |
| 00:48.22 | RooKz | it hasnt given us the word yet |
| 00:48.32 | Kueken | and tbh I don't really care about its sexual affection |
| 00:48.51 | RooKz | random gen: Cucumber Olympics |
| 00:48.56 | RooKz | that should be a game |
| 00:48.57 | RooKz | lol |
| 00:50.41 | RooKz | Xel'Naga Vault Explorers |
| 00:50.50 | RooKz | Vault Explorers |
| 00:51.11 | RooKz | Drills and Wrenches |
| 00:51.33 | Kueken | :D |
| 00:51.36 | RooKz | Project: SCV |
| 00:51.36 | MiladyDeClinter | A1win: do they wear wigs in Finnish courts? |
| 00:51.45 | MiladyDeClinter | Like in the English |
| 00:51.47 | A1win | probably not ;p |
| 00:51.52 | Kueken | I like how TwoDie commented Kubi's spell :D |
| 00:52.05 | A1win | we went to a court once at school, can't remember anything from it though |
| 00:52.05 | MiladyDeClinter | Kueken: ich leb' für deinen Phallus in meine Augenhöhlen |
| 00:52.09 | A1win | except that it was very boring |
| 00:52.21 | Kueken | That might hurt, Lajla |
| 00:52.26 | MiladyDeClinter | A1win: how is the judge addressed |
| 00:52.33 | A1win | no idea |
| 00:52.38 | RooKz | Vault Hackers |
| 00:53.04 | RooKz | The Almost Awesome Title |
| 00:53.15 | A1win | vault explorers sounds like it should have a character called Lara Craft(Craft) in it |
| 00:53.23 | RooKz | Xel'Naga Neverland |
| 00:53.25 | MiladyDeClinter | A1win: do they speak book language in the court? |
| 00:53.33 | A1win | probably |
| 00:54.03 | A1win | I don't know :P I can't remember anything about it, and I haven't watched any finnish TV series in years |
| 00:54.14 | RooKz | Valut Network |
| 00:54.18 | RooKz | Vault Network* |
| 00:54.38 | RooKz | SCV Legion |
| 00:54.45 | A1win | a legion of four |
| 00:54.48 | A1win | how scary |
| 00:55.00 | RooKz | Drill Dat Xel'Naga Door |
| 00:55.09 | RooKz | or just |
| 00:55.12 | RooKz | Drill Dat Door |
| 00:55.14 | Kueken | The Arcanite Chronicles, Part 1: Soothing the Void. |
| 00:55.34 | RooKz | Shattered Crystal |
| 00:55.41 | MiladyDeClinter | A1win: can you pronounce b's and g's? |
| 00:55.44 | MiladyDeClinter | As in 'Belgia'? |
| 00:55.48 | MiladyDeClinter | Or do you say Pelkia? |
| 00:55.52 | A1win | yeah |
| 00:55.58 | MiladyDeClinter | THat is a yes to which |
| 00:56.03 | RooKz | Void's Clutch |
| 00:56.08 | A1win | we just kind of "soften" them |
| 00:56.09 | RooKz | Void's Edge |
| 00:56.19 | MiladyDeClinter | A1win: hmm, so you say Pelkia? |
| 00:56.23 | A1win | no |
| 00:56.49 | RooKz | Craft Command |
| 00:56.49 | A1win | but the difference between the letters is not the same as in english |
| 00:56.58 | MiladyDeClinter | Hmm |
| 00:57.09 | MiladyDeClinter | Record it for me when you have the time. |
| 00:57.14 | A1win | B is the "soft p" and P the "hard p" |
| 00:58.06 | MiladyDeClinter | Well, English people can't really pronounce pornotähti jonka silmäkuopassä on kolme kyrpää |
| 00:59.07 | A1win | I guess B just has more "bass" to it, like a deeper booming and P is just pronounced at the front of the mouth |
| 01:02.48 | RooKz | SCV Ready: Secrets Unleashed |
| 01:02.53 | RooKz | how about THAT |
| 01:03.01 | A1win | :P |
| 01:03.11 | RooKz | aww man! |
| 01:03.16 | RooKz | stop hating on my names! |
| 01:03.29 | Kueken | The biggest Boozer |
| 01:03.35 | A1win | in the rear, with the gear |
| 01:03.46 | RooKz | no, actually, thats good |
| 01:03.48 | RooKz | lol |
| 01:03.57 | A1win | too long ;> |
| 01:04.05 | RooKz | why's mine suck? |
| 01:04.18 | Kueken | itr,wtg |
| 01:04.20 | RooKz | why is secrets unleashed bad |
| 01:04.21 | Kueken | works |
| 01:04.32 | A1win | it sounds too artificial |
| 01:04.39 | A1win | or what's the word |
| 01:04.49 | Kueken | wait |
| 01:04.50 | A1win | forced or something |
| 01:04.50 | RooKz | yea that makes no sense :) |
| 01:04.53 | Kueken | uhm... I got it |
| 01:04.55 | Kueken | BAD |
| 01:04.56 | Stewox | and the smell of victory, even better http://www.activistpost.com/2013/04/uk-man-wins-court-victory-over-bbc-for.html |
| 01:05.02 | Kueken | :p |
| 01:05.14 | RooKz | build a dome BAD |
| 01:05.29 | RooKz | ouch |
| 01:05.37 | RooKz | bad acronyms in my mind |
| 01:05.45 | RooKz | all inappropriate |
| 01:05.49 | A1win | build, drill, salvage & mine |
| 01:05.51 | RooKz | for EVERY letter |
| 01:06.01 | RooKz | utility |
| 01:06.11 | RooKz | thats how I squeeze those words together |
| 01:06.24 | RooKz | drill, build, salvage, mine > utility |
| 01:06.34 | A1win | ;p |
| 01:06.38 | A1win | but then it doesn't say BDSM |
| 01:07.05 | RooKz | SMBD |
| 01:07.13 | RooKz | MSDB |
| 01:07.19 | RooKz | BDMS |
| 01:07.22 | Kueken | not quite the same meaning ;) |
| 01:07.51 | RooKz | the game of drilling and clawing |
| 01:08.00 | RooKz | thats what 2 tools the scv has |
| 01:08.19 | A1win | until it jumps into a Goliath or Thor and starts shooting things |
| 01:08.26 | RooKz | lol |
| 01:08.35 | RooKz | Robots and Mechs |
| 01:09.00 | RooKz | CTV (Capture the Vault) |
| 01:09.04 | A1win | there's just too many features in it that it's difficult to come up with a name that describes all of the important ones |
| 01:09.10 | RooKz | SCV in CTV |
| 01:09.12 | A1win | so it probably needs to be something less descriptive |
| 01:09.46 | A1win | the SCV is not in a very big role, it's just a unit the player uses to build structures |
| 01:09.57 | RooKz | hmm |
| 01:10.03 | A1win | and use abilities that have infinite range, so it doesn't even feel like the SCV is using them |
| 01:10.17 | RooKz | Mechanic Command |
| 01:10.20 | RooKz | :D ? |
| 01:10.39 | A1win | "a game where you command mechanical things" doesn't sound very appealing :P |
| 01:11.53 | A1win | industry is kind of a good word, it sums up most things that the map is about |
| 01:12.02 | A1win | but haven't come up with anything to combine it with |
| 01:12.09 | A1win | that sounds good |
| 01:12.13 | A1win | and fits |
| 01:12.18 | RooKz | gears of industry |
| 01:12.33 | A1win | what gears ;p |
| 01:12.36 | RooKz | idk |
| 01:12.40 | RooKz | mechanical things |
| 01:12.40 | A1win | :x |
| 01:13.09 | Eagles | Industry of the Xel'Naga =D |
| 01:13.21 | RooKz | therhe doesnt like EMPHASISING xelnaga |
| 01:13.26 | RooKz | e* |
| 01:13.28 | RooKz | he* |
| 01:13.30 | RooKz | BAH! |
| 01:13.32 | Eagles | oh |
| 01:13.34 | RooKz | ERROR! |
| 01:13.39 | RooKz | GRAMMAR! |
| 01:13.41 | Stewox | lol xel naga |
| 01:13.43 | RooKz | RAGE! |
| 01:13.49 | A1win | :P that sounds like a "1000000 years ago in a galaxy far far away, the xel'naga had just started to industrialize their home planet" kind of game |
| 01:13.51 | Stewox | speaking about language |
| 01:14.04 | Stewox | Naga, in my language, means "a naked girl" |
| 01:14.16 | RooKz | terran industries |
| 01:14.18 | RooKz | nah |
| 01:14.37 | RooKz | why do u think warcraft has naga then? |
| 01:14.52 | RooKz | :P |
| 01:15.07 | Eagles | Galactical Industrycraft |
| 01:15.15 | RooKz | its underground |
| 01:15.16 | A1win | I think I should sleep x_x |
| 01:15.25 | RooKz | BUT BRAINSTORMING |
| 01:15.26 | A1win | there is a minecraft mod called IndustrialCraft |
| 01:15.28 | RooKz | YOU MUST STAY |
| 01:15.30 | Eagles | yeah.. but its in space xD |
| 01:16.01 | Stewox | Purt told me all about the St. Arc Raft a few days ago |
| 01:16.01 | A1win | and if I'm changing the name from CraftCraft to something else, I don't really want to keep any Craft in it :P |
| 01:16.03 | RooKz | engineer industry |
| 01:16.06 | Stewox | i mean purl |
| 01:16.40 | RooKz | compound industry |
| 01:16.47 | RooKz | industrial compound |
| 01:16.55 | RooKz | compound of industrial compounds |
| 01:17.13 | RooKz | compoundia industria |
| 01:17.56 | RooKz | Drills and Industry |
| 01:18.22 | RooKz | Industrification |
| 01:18.42 | RooKz | industriology |
| 01:19.07 | Eagles | Industrial Warfare of the Hybrids |
| 01:19.25 | RooKz | Infantry Industry |
| 01:20.10 | RooKz | The Drill |
| 01:20.26 | RooKz | the series of unfortunate events after you dug a hole |
| 01:21.00 | Kubi | How do I make it so Lazer line splat doesnt detach from caster when trying to cast an ability |
| 01:21.01 | RooKz | industry and conquest |
| 01:21.27 | RooKz | conveyor belts and drills |
| 01:21.36 | RooKz | conveyor industry |
| 01:21.50 | RooKz | conveyor convoy |
| 01:23.08 | Dustin | :O |
| 01:23.21 | Dustin | Just got an email from Blizzard about my Hybrid Assault map :D |
| 01:23.46 | RooKz | thats great, whats the email about |
| 01:23.47 | Kubi | D: |
| 01:24.01 | Kubi | Dustin we regret to inform you, we have to remove your map. |
| 01:24.03 | RooKz | good or bad? |
| 01:24.06 | Kubi | because YOLO |
| 01:24.13 | Dustin | They want to discuss featuring it :D |
| 01:24.16 | A1win | it reads "HAHA you thought this is something important but we're really just trolling you" |
| 01:24.21 | A1win | or maybe not |
| 01:24.23 | Kueken | some1 put me to sleep |
| 01:24.44 | RooKz | blizzard is like a buzzard |
| 01:25.31 | Kubi | Does anyone know how to prevent the cursor splat from detaching from the caster? |
| 01:25.34 | RooKz | what was blizz's first name? |
| 01:25.41 | RooKz | something and synapse? |
| 01:26.07 | Eagles | http://puu.sh/2xMUA/adbced95ba The power of Chrome :D |
| 01:26.32 | RooKz | thx |
| 01:26.34 | RooKz | lol |
| 01:26.39 | RooKz | silicon and synapse |
| 01:30.20 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=UKqDStuh4fM#t=139s |
| 01:38.11 | Ahli | =/ hiding terrain cells around my dungeon looks terrible |
| 01:38.47 | Kubi | Yolo |
| 01:42.31 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/eN5Zw.jpg |
| 01:45.26 | RooKz | what am I looking at? |
| 01:45.30 | RooKz | whats wrong with it? |
| 01:45.50 | Ahli | black squares outside the walls |
| 01:46.44 | Ahli | doesn't look good, so I don't hide them... |
| 01:49.50 | RooKz | I dont see anything wrong with the imagine |
| 01:49.54 | RooKz | image* |
| 01:50.00 | RooKz | maybe Im so ignorant |
| 02:08.33 | Kubi | Its always fun looking at your previous works and see how noob you were. |
| 02:18.10 | nooblark | are* |
| 02:18.30 | nooblark | ever do that with high school/college papers? |
| 02:18.33 | nooblark | it's amazing. |
| 02:18.56 | nooblark | especially after being published, makes you wonder who taught you english in that small amount of time |
| 02:30.53 | Reaperguyver | ... |
| 02:38.12 | RooKz | Ive been looking back on my mapping |
| 02:38.20 | RooKz | I see improvements since then |
| 02:52.32 | Kubi | mm |
| 02:52.41 | Kubi | setup my levelable ability |
| 02:52.41 | Kubi | but its not working correctly |
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| 02:54.11 | RooKz | check this out... |
| 02:54.13 | RooKz | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/51339-dogfighters/#p2 |
| 02:54.29 | Ownage | can I find out what unit a model is 'normally' assigned to? |
| 02:54.44 | RooKz | actors |
| 02:54.57 | Ownage | that is, can I have a supply depot with a marine actor, and determine that the model would normally be a marine unit? |
| 02:55.01 | RooKz | actors use models and gives them to a unit |
| 02:55.19 | Kubi | Too bad it wont be playable with mp |
| 02:55.20 | RooKz | go to actors tab and find supply depot actor |
| 02:55.26 | RooKz | change model to marine |
| 02:55.43 | Ownage | read my question again |
| 02:55.45 | Ownage | then let me know |
| 02:56.28 | RooKz | "determine that the model would normally be a marine unit" can you explain? |
| 02:57.17 | Ownage | as a human we know that the marine model normally goes the the marine actor which is normally on the marine unit |
| 02:57.31 | Ownage | so if we change a supply depot to use a new actor with marine model |
| 02:57.40 | Ownage | as humans we know this is NORMALLY a marine |
| 02:57.54 | Ownage | I'm asking if there's a way to determine that w/ actions/functions |
| 02:58.06 | Ownage | I'm guessing not, as it's a strange thing to test |
| 02:58.11 | RooKz | why would you want that? |
| 02:58.27 | Ownage | to make my life easier of course |
| 02:58.35 | Ownage | same reason we want most things :) |
| 02:58.46 | RooKz | in that case, no |
| 02:58.54 | RooKz | if you wanted to do it in-game |
| 02:59.01 | RooKz | maybe |
| 02:59.17 | RooKz | you'd have to know what every model belonged to first |
| 02:59.22 | RooKz | :) |
| 02:59.44 | RooKz | so, I'm not the best at the editor |
| 02:59.47 | RooKz | I wouldnt know |
| 03:00.03 | RooKz | maybe you can |
| 03:00.04 | Ownage | I'm pretty sure there isn't a way |
| 03:00.04 | RooKz | not many people are active right now |
| 03:00.04 | Ownage | but never hurts to ask |
| 03:00.39 | RooKz | Ill repost this |
| 03:00.47 | RooKz | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/51339-dogfighters/#p2 |
| 03:00.53 | RooKz | this is AWESOME |
| 03:01.06 | RooKz | cool concept that ive heard of before |
| 03:01.13 | RooKz | never thought possible in sc2 |
| 03:31.15 | Eagles | then you haven't seen this man :P www.redalertorigins.com/index.html & http://www.cgsource.net/jetcraft.html#/general/ |
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| 04:15.27 | Stewox | great stuff there eagles |
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| 04:29.04 | kubiwork | ahh yeah, need some ideas for hero abilities. |
| 04:31.51 | kubiwork | you guys suck |
| 04:42.23 | Reaperguyver | sorry I'm not all that great at ideas on my own... |
| 04:42.36 | Reaperguyver | wow he quit awhile ago lol |
| 05:18.47 | Reaperguyver | .... |
| 05:34.41 | Eagles | o |
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| 06:19.54 | A1winjakyrpansa | a1win, so say this 'nukkuaksi' construct, can it be used with other cases. |
| 06:20.14 | A1winjakyrpansa | Like 'mä tulen tänne nukkuakseni' means 'I come here to sleep right |
| 06:20.41 | A1winjakyrpansa | So can you also say 'mä tulen tänne nukkuastani' for instance. I come here out of sleaping? |
| 06:33.01 | Reaperguyver | ... |
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| 07:32.48 | Reaperguyver | O.o |
| 07:49.17 | G0A | any one experiencing crashes with hots arcade map? |
| 07:52.46 | Reaperguyver | No, but I have not played many after hots came out and my own map is having an issue so I can't even play it on Battle.net |
| 07:56.09 | Eagles | Did you do alot of work on it? |
| 07:57.16 | G0A | its my Nexus Squadron Strike shit. There isnt much work in it, I think something model related causing it. |
| 07:58.35 | Reaperguyver | Enough to consider paying someone to remake the map for me. |
| 07:59.03 | Reaperguyver | That sounds probably. Or a uhhh confliction between triggers maybe? |
| 08:00.06 | Eagles | i haven't really followed the topic, do you guys still believe it's something with map/game variants? |
| 08:02.07 | G0A | dependencies maybe |
| 08:03.00 | Reaperguyver | Mine is probably something in the Variants but Jade said he would look at it for me. We reset them to the original state before the map was made then i set them back as instructed and the problem persists/ So.... I don't know what's wrong with mine. |
| 08:03.37 | Eagles | =/ |
| 08:05.18 | G0A | Reaperguyver whats the problem with your map? |
| 08:05.39 | Reaperguyver | I get an error when i try to host the game on battle.net |
| 08:05.46 | G0A | :) |
| 08:05.47 | Reaperguyver | somewhere between streaming data and launching the lobby. |
| 08:06.00 | Reaperguyver | or launching the lobby itself. |
| 08:06.12 | Reaperguyver | and before you ask I will tell you what the error says/shows |
| 08:06.22 | G0A | its the Game Attributes, you have to delete them and re add them, that will fix it |
| 08:06.23 | Reaperguyver | ! Error Ok. |
| 08:06.51 | G0A | I had that with Nexus Squadron Strike |
| 08:07.01 | G0A | How many Attributes do you have btw? |
| 08:07.22 | Reaperguyver | umm |
| 08:07.24 | Reaperguyver | 0? |
| 08:07.48 | Reaperguyver | I never knew what attributes were so I never put them in. |
| 08:09.45 | G0A | hmm |
| 08:10.06 | G0A | then deleting all game variants should help. I deleted both when I had this bug, |
| 08:13.32 | Reaperguyver | tried that already |
| 08:19.30 | Reaperguyver | which is why I'm considering just remaking the map = / |
| 08:54.50 | twodie | How to make unit to play animation every period of persistent? |
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| 09:19.43 | twodie | and gone again for be back! |
| 09:19.53 | twodie | *to be back] |
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| 09:35.18 | twodie | bavk |
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| 09:38.24 | Eagles | Anyone know if there's a certain Attach Point which every unit *definitely* has? |
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| 09:43.22 | kubi | yaaa |
| 09:43.22 | kubi | gaaay |
| 09:43.23 | kubi | mock yeah |
| 09:43.27 | kubi | bird yeah |
| 09:49.47 | kubi | @nyone here |
| 09:54.10 | twodie | im have back |
| 10:27.37 | Eagles | Can I somehow do Veterancy levels with Triggers? http://puu.sh/2xYpa/a15b0ae9dd |
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| 12:49.09 | sixteen | hello |
| 12:49.31 | sixteen | triggers can do this? |
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| 12:49.46 | sixteen | shift + A + click x2 |
| 12:49.51 | sixteen | rally? |
| 12:50.23 | sixteen | impossible? |
| 12:52.07 | Cardanis | I've never worked with triggers, so I don't know lol |
| 12:52.22 | Cardanis | Is anyone here who has experience with weapons? |
| 12:52.57 | sixteen | i saw a map |
| 12:53.04 | A1win | triggers can do what? |
| 12:53.08 | sixteen | units are ordered |
| 12:53.26 | A1win | you can give any orders to any units with triggers |
| 12:53.30 | sixteen | to attack 2 points. i saw arrow lines when i clicked the unit. |
| 12:53.44 | sixteen | i mena shift + A + click x2 |
| 12:53.48 | sixteen | *i mean |
| 12:54.06 | sixteen | all i can do is that issue order to one point |
| 12:54.11 | A1win | first Issue Order replacing existing orders, and then add orders with Issue Order after existing orders |
| 12:54.17 | Cardanis | So, I've got a unit using a strafe weapon, since I want that kind of behavior. The only problem is, apparently strafe weapons, no matter the arc value, attack from all around, so the unit can shoot behind himself |
| 12:55.00 | Cardanis | So, I've got its first weapon to be the strafe weapon that does nothing, so it'll start using the 'strafe behavior' and then other, non strafe weapons that can fire while moving, but only fire forward |
| 12:55.22 | sixteen | what is that? |
| 12:55.25 | Cardanis | the problem now, is that when I attack move, the strafe weapon picks a target, and the other weapons then refuse to fire unless it's at that target |
| 12:55.35 | Cardanis | and that target is usually behind him, so it never fires |
| 12:55.58 | sixteen | does that mean add 2 issue order actions? |
| 12:56.03 | A1win | yes |
| 12:56.17 | sixteen | how do i make a map bigger than 256 |
| 12:56.44 | A1win | there's a parameter in the issue order action to change it to "Replacing Existing Orders", "Before Existing Orders", or "After Existing Orders" |
| 12:56.55 | A1win | you can't make a map bigger than 256x256 |
| 12:57.22 | A1win | all you can do is scale down all units and zoom in camera to make it seem bigger |
| 12:57.33 | A1win | but tiles will always be the same size |
| 12:58.29 | sixteen | i saw a map |
| 12:58.32 | sixteen | very long |
| 12:58.44 | A1win | longest is 256 |
| 12:58.55 | sixteen | there is nexus strike map |
| 12:59.28 | sixteen | oh i see there is after or before |
| 12:59.36 | JademusSreg | Zoop. |
| 12:59.40 | sixteen | i spent too many days to find other way |
| 12:59.45 | sixteen | because of this shit |
| 12:59.47 | A1win | :x |
| 13:00.00 | sixteen | if you see nexus strike map |
| 13:00.05 | sixteen | map is very long |
| 13:00.06 | A1win | next time, come here sooner :> |
| 13:00.17 | A1win | longest possible map is still 256 |
| 13:00.24 | sixteen | the map is same size? |
| 13:00.35 | A1win | it might have its units scaled down if it seems to be longer |
| 13:00.39 | G0A | sixteen Nexus Strike is 256 long:D |
| 13:00.49 | sixteen | ok |
| 13:00.59 | sixteen | maybe it is my eyes problem |
| 13:01.11 | A1win | it's simply not possible to have a bigger map than that |
| 13:01.24 | A1win | because it's not supported by the eng ine |
| 13:01.26 | A1win | -space |
| 13:01.34 | G0A | you can, if you make a map generator... |
| 13:02.01 | A1win | the map is still technically 256x256 :P |
| 13:02.28 | sixteen | map generator? |
| 13:03.14 | A1win | I think he's talking about a scripted map generator that just kind of re-uses the map space by generating stuff on it |
| 13:03.52 | G0A | yes |
| 13:04.53 | JademusSreg | recalls his SuperMap POC. |
| 13:05.28 | A1win | I once made a map that moves the "terrain" instead of the units, the unit stays still and the environment moves around it :P |
| 13:05.55 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 13:05.57 | A1win | so the map size ranged from -max integer value to +max integer value |
| 13:06.23 | A1win | or maybe I used real value for some reason but still |
| 13:06.55 | A1win | it wasn't very flexible in terms of what I could do with it though ;p |
| 13:07.36 | JademusSreg | Sounds like a technical pain in the ass, really. |
| 13:07.46 | A1win | yeah ;> |
| 13:08.01 | Dustin | Everything owuld almost have to be generated on the fly |
| 13:08.21 | A1win | but at least you'd have virtually infinite size map ;D |
| 13:08.28 | JademusSreg | The mothership shooter on the other hand was a sweet prototype. I'd like to see you polish and publish that. |
| 13:08.41 | A1win | mm dunno |
| 13:09.04 | A1win | never figured out what I wanted to do with it |
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| 13:13.46 | Dustin | Mother ship shooter? |
| 13:13.50 | Dustin | Don't think I saw that |
| 13:14.19 | A1win | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDcRkC9cXss |
| 13:14.29 | A1win | script controlled projectiles |
| 13:14.41 | KomischOo | Hey Guys, my map is creting huge FPS drops based on how many units are alive that have been customly created. How could this be causedß |
| 13:15.00 | KomischOo | each unit = fps -10 |
| 13:15.16 | JademusSreg | If I had to guess, I'd say persistents or rampant actor spawning. |
| 13:16.03 | A1win | that's the "infinite" map, it was the first prototype of craftcraft :P http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B2UbAAEDKsY |
| 13:19.18 | KomischOo | wow A1win |
| 13:19.49 | A1win | you didn't see our conversation about it ;D |
| 13:20.08 | JademusSreg | <3 prototypes |
| 13:20.13 | A1win | the environment is moving and the unit is actually standing still, just has animations applied to it to make it look like it's moving |
| 13:20.18 | A1win | so it's really a technical nightmare |
| 13:20.19 | KomischOo | Master Jade so how could i fix that? |
| 13:20.30 | KomischOo | haha nice A1win |
| 13:20.42 | Dustin | A1win, thats sick |
| 13:20.52 | KomischOo | so ur faking like hell |
| 13:21.00 | A1win | yeah ;p |
| 13:21.06 | A1win | + pathfinding, what's that |
| 13:21.16 | JademusSreg | Kom, do these units apply persistent effects? Do they create lots of actors? Do they have lots of periodic behaviors? |
| 13:21.17 | A1win | would have to script that too |
| 13:21.22 | A1win | or not have it |
| 13:21.47 | KomischOo | well its a regular marine, or medivac based on user choice |
| 13:21.49 | A1win | having enemies would be very difficult |
| 13:22.07 | KomischOo | but it gets custom life added + regen + movement speed |
| 13:22.16 | KomischOo | but only when it spawns |
| 13:22.23 | KomischOo | not as long its alive |
| 13:22.33 | JademusSreg | Kom, do you have multiple triggers that fire on unit create / enter? |
| 13:22.49 | KomischOo | let me just post you it |
| 13:22.58 | KomischOo | its a nightmare for peopel how can programme and shit |
| 13:23.01 | KomischOo | jsut sayin |
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| 13:23.31 | A1win | :P |
| 13:23.51 | KomischOo | + Im maybe checking a little too much |
| 13:23.53 | KomischOo | http://pastebin.com/kSW8w4XA |
| 13:24.27 | A1win | x____x |
| 13:24.31 | JademusSreg | Terrible. |
| 13:24.35 | KomischOo | :( |
| 13:24.54 | JademusSreg | Make a new Action Definition. |
| 13:25.13 | JademusSreg | Add a integer parameter. |
| 13:25.43 | Dustin | Holy dear god in jesus that's the most nested IF's Ive ever seen in my life |
| 13:25.51 | KomischOo | haha |
| 13:25.55 | JademusSreg | Then, call set life and max life actions with a simple arithmetic operation. |
| 13:26.08 | KomischOo | i dont know shit about programming and stuff. I was really proud that it even worked. |
| 13:26.16 | A1win | haha |
| 13:26.17 | KomischOo | so im pretty frustrated :( |
| 13:26.27 | A1win | you probably should get to know a bit of programming then |
| 13:26.44 | A1win | if you want to script stuff |
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| 13:26.51 | Dustin | This is the prefect change to learn about loops and Case/Switches |
| 13:26.54 | JademusSreg | Your values don't have a decent curve, but basically delete all of it and use a single custom action that takes an integer parameter. |
| 13:26.54 | KomischOo | well its the only trigger in my map that requires such knowledge |
| 13:26.55 | A1win | it'll help for your frustration |
| 13:26.56 | Dustin | chance* |
| 13:27.07 | KomischOo | welll it would be |
| 13:27.14 | KomischOo | :D |
| 13:27.17 | KomischOo | if my finals wouldnt start tomorrow |
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| 13:27.23 | A1win | if that's the only trigger that requires such knowledge that you'll ever make, then it's fine, but it'll help you in the futgure too |
| 13:27.35 | KomischOo | i used switch before |
| 13:27.48 | A1win | switch is just a simplified if-then-else |
| 13:27.48 | KomischOo | i know about switch and casess atleast |
| 13:27.55 | JademusSreg | This doesn't even need switch, it needs a different approach entirely. |
| 13:27.56 | KomischOo | yeah |
| 13:28.00 | Cardanis | Hey, so Jade |
| 13:28.05 | JademusSreg | And switches compile to if-else anyway. |
| 13:28.10 | KomischOo | yes Master |
| 13:28.15 | Cardanis | I'm still struggling with that Strafe weapon =P |
| 13:28.32 | Cardanis | I'm pretty sure, at this point, that strafe weapons ALWAYS fire in all directions, regardless of what you put |
| 13:28.39 | KomischOo | so i can kind of delete my entire giant beautiful mess trigger? :) |
| 13:28.41 | JademusSreg | That's interesting. |
| 13:28.44 | KomischOo | * :( |
| 13:28.48 | JademusSreg | Kom, yes. |
| 13:28.49 | Dustin | JademusSreg, I got an email from one of the Blizzard Arcade guys wanting to talk to me about featuring Hybrid Assault :D |
| 13:28.55 | Cardanis | So what I'm trying to do, is have the first weapon be hidden and do nothing, and be a strafe weapon, which gets the unit MOVING like he's strafing |
| 13:28.59 | JademusSreg | Congrats. =D |
| 13:29.08 | Cardanis | Dude, Dustin that's awesome! |
| 13:29.25 | Dustin | Pretty stoked about it :D |
| 13:29.29 | Cardanis | And then my unit will have normal weapons that always fire forward, and will just always shoot whenever anything is in front of him |
| 13:29.57 | JademusSreg | Card, in that case, a hidden strafe weapon and normal weapon + transient could do it. |
| 13:30.06 | Cardanis | the problem is, my strafe weapon starts shooting someone, and then passes over it. . . and the rest of my weapons won't fire anymore, because they only want to attack the unit the strafe one is targeting |
| 13:30.43 | JademusSreg | Card, there are flags for that. |
| 13:31.08 | JademusSreg | As in Can Acquire Targets or something. Weapons have several flags relevant to that sort of thing. |
| 13:32.05 | Cardanis | Ya, the only ones I have ticked are 'can initiate attack' and 'require enabled attack ability' |
| 13:32.40 | KomischOo | It's my duty to obey Maser Jade. I will do so tomorrow evening, as my finals are tomorrow. I made a screenshot of your order and will come back to you if required. |
| 13:32.54 | KomischOo | Master* |
| 13:33.21 | JademusSreg | Kom, New > Action Definition > add Integer parameter, add Set Unit Life, add Set Unit Max Life, and then make up an arithmetic expression that can take the integer parameter to get the life total for that level. |
| 13:33.47 | JademusSreg | For instance level*200. |
| 13:34.26 | JademusSreg | Or level*(level*0.5)*200 |
| 13:34.44 | JademusSreg | That gives you a bit of a curve. |
| 13:35.06 | A1win | that's level^2*100 :P |
| 13:35.15 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 13:35.28 | Dustin | Yay math :D |
| 13:35.53 | JademusSreg | I don't wanna need to explain the exponential operator if I can avoid it. |
| 13:36.08 | A1win | level*level*100 then |
| 13:36.29 | JademusSreg | I intended to iterate further on the suggestion, haha. |
| 13:36.39 | A1win | yeah yeah |
| 13:38.06 | JademusSreg | Up to lvl*(1+((lvl-1)*0.5))*200 =D |
| 13:38.33 | JademusSreg | But you had to derail mah train. |
| 13:38.53 | KomischOo | you guys know how to be NOT confusing at all |
| 13:38.59 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Card, the weapon needs to be transient and either allow or require movement. |
| 13:40.08 | Cardanis | http://pastebin.com/PukFFKZq |
| 13:40.17 | Cardanis | That's the weapon there |
| 13:40.22 | Cardanis | Where's the option for transient? lol |
| 13:40.36 | JademusSreg | Legacy flags, iirc. |
| 13:40.41 | JademusSreg | But I don' |
| 13:40.47 | JademusSreg | *don't have the editor open atm. |
| 13:42.38 | Cardanis | hmmm |
| 13:42.39 | Cardanis | kk |
| 13:42.50 | Cardanis | Can't seem to find transient, though I know that's a field on abilities |
| 13:43.03 | Cardanis | Should I be using an ability, not a weapon? |
| 13:43.44 | JademusSreg | Which view are you in? Table, The Ugly View, or XML? |
| 13:44.04 | Cardanis | Table |
| 13:44.28 | JademusSreg | Alright. And what are your View Options? |
| 13:44.42 | JademusSreg | There are a number of shitty ones on by default. |
| 13:45.34 | JademusSreg | Go to View on the menubar and disable the ones like Group Shit Together, and Show Basic Labels. |
| 13:45.43 | JademusSreg | And Show Changes. |
| 13:46.19 | Cardanis | Sort Fields by Source, Show Basic Field Label, Show Field Categories, Combine Structure Values, Show Field Differences |
| 13:46.49 | JademusSreg | Disable all but Show Field Categories and Combine Structure Values. |
| 13:46.57 | JademusSreg | Those two are mildly useful. |
| 13:47.17 | JademusSreg | And tada, the table view is less shitty. =D |
| 13:47.31 | Cardanis | Hahaha, indeed |
| 13:47.35 | Cardanis | and still no transient =\ |
| 13:47.49 | Cardanis | The wiki doesn't show a transient value for weapons either |
| 13:48.29 | JademusSreg | There should be a Legacy Options. But no matter. So long as it can fire on its own and allows movement and doesn't require the attack target, it's fine. |
| 13:49.46 | Cardanis | Hmm. That's what I had it set to before, and it didn't work |
| 13:50.27 | JademusSreg | The Goliath has a good reference for weapons that work independently. |
| 13:51.08 | JademusSreg | The research-enhanced version that swaps the active weapon, that is. |
| 13:51.09 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 13:52.13 | Cardanis | hmm, kk |
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| 13:58.11 | Cardanis | Guuuh, why is this not working |
| 13:59.34 | JademusSreg | I'd need to tinker with it directly to be certain. |
| 14:01.15 | Cardanis | Haha it's fine, I was just bemoaning my existence |
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| 14:09.11 | KomischOo | Jade jsut 1 more question. to you think my awesoem trigger causes the fps drops? |
| 14:09.33 | JademusSreg | Hihgly likely. |
| 14:09.38 | JademusSreg | *Highly |
| 14:09.42 | JademusSreg | But not certain. |
| 14:10.39 | KomischOo | because that woudlnt explain why |
| 14:10.47 | KomischOo | more custom units alive cause more fps drops |
| 14:10.52 | KomischOo | or would it? |
| 14:11.34 | JademusSreg | I can't hazard a guess on incomplete information, but I don't quite have the time to look at the map. |
| 14:11.35 | RooKz | hey jade |
| 14:11.51 | KomischOo | I know.. |
| 14:12.07 | A1win | just solve one issue at a time |
| 14:12.28 | RooKz | did you ever ask "gargajCNS" about permission for his music for photon cycles? |
| 14:12.54 | RooKz | did anybody tell you about him coming in here? did he come back? |
| 14:13.02 | JademusSreg | Nope. And I don't maintain PC anymore; I released the source. |
| 14:13.42 | RooKz | yea but he wanted to talk to you :) |
| 14:14.18 | JademusSreg | If people want to talk to me, they come here. |
| 14:14.28 | RooKz | yea but you werent here at the time |
| 14:15.12 | JademusSreg | Such is life. |
| 14:15.59 | RooKz | [17:06] <GargajCNS> with all due respect i dont think i'm the one who should be making an effort to contact him. |
| 14:16.20 | RooKz | :/ |
| 14:16.27 | RooKz | anyway |
| 14:16.29 | JademusSreg | Sounds like you're the one angling to make happen what interests neither party. |
| 14:16.31 | Dustin | Is he bitching you used his music or something without credit? lol |
| 14:16.33 | RooKz | small thing happened last night |
| 14:16.53 | JademusSreg | Naw, I'd not do that Dustin. |
| 14:17.12 | Dustin | Didn't figure |
| 14:17.28 | Cardanis | So, say I've got a weapon with a launch missile effect, and I'm getting an error saying I can't create more than one Actor per Launch Effect, as well as errors saying actionimpactevent is occuring before actor commences. . . what could be the cause of that? |
| 14:18.01 | JademusSreg | Rather, yuka seems to want me to use his music, and is attempting to make it happen through Shakespearean maneuvers of subterfuge. |
| 14:18.22 | JademusSreg | This isn't Taming Of The Shrew, damn. |
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| 14:19.13 | JademusSreg | Card, sounds like an action actor problem. |
| 14:19.22 | JademusSreg | Possibly multiple action actors refering to the same effects. |
| 14:19.48 | RooKz | I just remembered, so I mentioned it |
| 14:19.52 | RooKz | nothing more |
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| 14:19.58 | Cardanis | Ya, I checked, even using the flow chart, I've only got one action actor |
| 14:20.14 | RooKz | just move on with life, it was nothing |
| 14:20.18 | Cardanis | Launch is the launch effect, impact is the damage effect |
| 14:20.19 | JademusSreg | What are its effect tokens? |
| 14:20.28 | Cardanis | they're launched by a persistent that fires two of them |
| 14:20.29 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:20.42 | Cardanis | (I'm just full of problems today lol) |
| 14:20.47 | JademusSreg | Paste the xml for the action actor. |
| 14:21.48 | Cardanis | http://pastebin.com/7Uibq1cW |
| 14:21.52 | Cardanis | It's a copy off the viking one |
| 14:22.48 | JademusSreg | There is a missile unit and corresponding missile actor, yes? |
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| 14:23.34 | Cardanis | yup |
| 14:23.40 | Cardanis | want those too? |
| 14:23.43 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 14:27.13 | Cardanis | http://pastebin.com/5DPDq0i3 |
| 14:27.27 | Cardanis | Like, the model shows up and everything |
| 14:27.35 | Cardanis | it looks to be acting fine |
| 14:27.41 | Cardanis | just throws a lot of errors |
| 14:28.16 | JademusSreg | Looks fine, mostly, though you shouldn't need any changes to the actor events. |
| 14:28.18 | Cardanis | (When I make new weapons, effects and actors, it's okay to use 'copy from' right? Cause that's what I've been doing) |
| 14:28.33 | JademusSreg | Right click, reset to default. |
| 14:29.21 | Cardanis | On the action actor? |
| 14:29.32 | JademusSreg | The actor Events+ |
| 14:29.37 | JademusSreg | And yeah. |
| 14:29.38 | Cardanis | kk |
| 14:29.53 | JademusSreg | Reset that to default so the tokens are filled in properly. |
| 14:30.33 | JademusSreg | And I'm guessing the impact and damage map model reactions resolve to Unknown values, so reset those as well (you can manually put back in the model reaction for index None later). |
| 14:31.22 | Cardanis | Actually, that works fine |
| 14:31.25 | JademusSreg | Reset beam because that's a copy of a value that wasn't valid in the first place. |
| 14:31.35 | Cardanis | After resetting just the events |
| 14:31.37 | Cardanis | thanks =D |
| 14:31.50 | JademusSreg | Yeah, but all that other shit in the data bugs me. =D |
| 14:32.00 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 14:32.04 | Cardanis | aaaahahaha |
| 14:32.43 | JademusSreg | Can't stand duplicating or copying because it fills the data with useless information that doesn't do anything. |
| 14:32.51 | Cardanis | Actually, those values do map to proper models |
| 14:33.17 | Cardanis | Ya, I normally scratch build things, but I did want this to behave like viking missiles, hence the copying |
| 14:33.20 | JademusSreg | Oh, good. Then just the Beam field then. =D |
| 14:33.36 | Cardanis | I was working on this map a while back, and spent DAYS working on just one unit to get it just right |
| 14:33.44 | Cardanis | finally decided I just needed to get the units in, make them playable, and polish it as i go |
| 14:34.14 | Cardanis | Beam's gone, just for you lol |
| 14:34.55 | JademusSreg | Applause. |
| 14:35.36 | Cardanis | Hmm, is there a better way to name weapons? I have the same name of weapon for different units, but want them each to have their own profile, but whatever I name them in the editor is their name in game |
| 14:35.44 | Cardanis | I'm assuming I just use prefixes for that? |
| 14:36.04 | JademusSreg | Pretty much. |
| 14:37.50 | Cardanis | Also, resources for 'chopped up models', I'm using the ItemKitT that got put out a while ago, are there any other resources for models that I don't know about? |
| 14:37.58 | Cardanis | I also found an old thread that had a few things like chopped off muta wings and the like |
| 14:38.00 | Cardanis | but that's about it |
| 14:38.32 | JademusSreg | Beyond my knowledge. |
| 14:39.41 | Cardanis | aight |
| 14:39.42 | Cardanis | Thanks |
| 14:39.48 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
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| 14:42.01 | Taintedwisp | Dammit... |
| 14:42.02 | Taintedwisp | Dammit |
| 14:42.03 | Taintedwisp | dammit |
| 14:42.38 | Taintedwisp | Jademus, how would I add a push image to my layout? |
| 14:42.47 | Taintedwisp | for my buttons |
| 14:42.48 | JademusSreg | A push image? |
| 14:42.59 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 14:43.06 | JademusSreg | Its activated state. |
| 14:43.13 | Taintedwisp | err I guess |
| 14:43.21 | Taintedwisp | Something to show that it was clicked. |
| 14:43.27 | Taintedwisp | wait no thats not right... |
| 14:43.29 | Taintedwisp | err... |
| 14:43.35 | Taintedwisp | To make it look like its pushed when its clicked |
| 14:43.42 | Taintedwisp | make sense? |
| 14:43.51 | Taintedwisp | not toggled. |
| 14:43.52 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Buttons usually have 2 states. |
| 14:44.17 | Taintedwisp | soooo just make it have 2 states, then find a button image to base it off of? |
| 14:44.26 | JademusSreg | Pretty much. |
| 14:44.33 | Taintedwisp | kk |
| 14:45.39 | JademusSreg | Look in the StandardTemplates layout and you'll see the StandardButtonTemplate, either it or some other will have 2 states, if you need to add that part as well. |
| 14:46.01 | JademusSreg | Or if you've already got that, all you need is a texture supporting 2 states. |
| 14:57.25 | Cardanis | So, the new physics death things |
| 14:57.36 | Cardanis | Are those values I have to apply to my weapons? |
| 14:57.41 | Cardanis | Or will that happen automatically |
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| 15:02.29 | Touk | RWAr |
| 15:03.22 | JademusSreg | I've not tinkered with the new physics yet. Given it's entirely aesthetic, it is less interesting than various other features. |
| 15:04.25 | Cardanis | Ya, I was just curious |
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| 15:06.21 | Cardanis | hmm |
| 15:06.28 | Cardanis | so I want a unit to launch missiles as a weapon |
| 15:06.51 | Cardanis | but the missiles have a random aspect, where they 'scatter' to hit in an area AROUND the target unit |
| 15:07.07 | Cardanis | I'm trying to use a search effect to do this, but it seems I can only use this to 'find' units? |
| 15:07.08 | JademusSreg | Offset field. |
| 15:07.28 | Cardanis | oooh, on the launch? |
| 15:07.30 | Cardanis | Found it, thanks |
| 15:07.52 | Cardanis | is there a way to randomize it? |
| 15:07.58 | Zolden | JademusSreg: did you finish your rtt-dlg tests? |
| 15:08.18 | JademusSreg | Card, Persistents have the Random Offset flag. |
| 15:08.31 | Taintedwisp | JademusSreg a texture supporting 2 textures, would the pressed one be top or bottom? |
| 15:08.37 | JademusSreg | Zol, only one more test to do. |
| 15:08.45 | JademusSreg | Taint, bottom. |
| 15:09.05 | Cardanis | Okay, found it. Is there a way to make it random, or will i be stuck with hardcoded values> |
| 15:09.21 | Taintedwisp | kk thanks jadmeus |
| 15:09.30 | JademusSreg | Zol, the last thing I can think of to test would be to make a Scene type actor, host it in the cutscene dialog control, and hook a camera to a node. |
| 15:10.03 | Zolden | scene type of actor? |
| 15:10.28 | JademusSreg | Yep. Scene actors are used for rendering scenes. |
| 15:10.57 | JademusSreg | The world panel contains a Scene actor of the world, the portrait actor has a Scene actor for a unit portrait, and such. |
| 15:11.36 | Zolden | is there a difference between using a saved scene for a cutscene dialog item and using a cutscene for cutscene dialog itme? |
| 15:12.24 | JademusSreg | Since a cutscene is just a bunch of xml data used to configure actor messages sent to the scene and its content, should be possible to just skip the intermediary and hook up a camera to one of its nodes. |
| 15:12.36 | Zolden | in the second part of my last sentence i meant cutscene actor |
| 15:13.31 | JademusSreg | I looked at the cutscene data last night, sure enough, its xml-structured nodes, messages, and properties. |
| 15:13.36 | Zolden | do you know that the trigger to apply a saved scene to the cutscene dialog - locked for blizz map only? |
| 15:14.14 | JademusSreg | Uncertain, didn't test that. I did check to see if the dialog control has a scene actor by default, and it doesn't. |
| 15:14.15 | Zolden | if it wouldn't be locked, we'd use a cutscene model wit rtt on its ass |
| 15:14.29 | JademusSreg | So I'd need to figure a way to hook up a scene actor. |
| 15:14.42 | JademusSreg | Either that, or I'll hijack a protrait control. |
| 15:14.45 | JademusSreg | *portrait |
| 15:14.58 | JademusSreg | Since it contains a scene as well. |
| 15:15.21 | Zolden | portrait and model cameras are restricted, they can't show rtt |
| 15:15.43 | Zolden | only cutscene and game world cameras can |
| 15:16.09 | Touk | JADE |
| 15:16.17 | JademusSreg | Ah, you misunderstand a bit. That's absolutely correct, but I don't mean to show inside. |
| 15:16.28 | JademusSreg | I mean to hijack it entirely. |
| 15:16.48 | JademusSreg | I'm not wanting to fit a bus in a bus, I'll just take the bus and drive it wherever the fuck I please. |
| 15:17.04 | Zolden | sounds good |
| 15:17.11 | JademusSreg | If the scene actor can be accessed, it should be doable. |
| 15:17.20 | JademusSreg | Rather, its specific scene actor. |
| 15:17.44 | JademusSreg | Touk? |
| 15:17.50 | Touk | what sup |
| 15:17.51 | Touk | jade |
| 15:17.52 | Touk | :3 |
| 15:18.01 | JademusSreg | Stuff. |
| 15:18.05 | Zolden | sounds like you understand the whole bullshit pretty deep |
| 15:19.10 | JademusSreg | I'm not looking forward to using actor messages to mess with nodes and such, but from what I can tell, it is doable. |
| 15:19.33 | Taintedwisp | Zolden, stop bein black.... it will help you in life |
| 15:19.38 | JademusSreg | But I've been entirely too preoccupied with it and have neglected some things, so I won't be testing that today. |
| 15:19.43 | Zolden | alright, i like when it's still a little hope |
| 15:20.28 | Zolden | attaches a "flying penises" particle to Taintedwisp's actor |
| 15:21.02 | Zolden | JademusSreg: i've been waiting for working rtt for a months or two, so i'm ok to wait more |
| 15:21.57 | JademusSreg | Important question, how many, let's say, portraits can the engine support? |
| 15:22.07 | Cardanis | Is it possible to have, say, 3 weapons on a unit, and only two of them have linked cooldown? |
| 15:22.17 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 15:23.02 | Touk | my name was mentioned |
| 15:23.05 | Touk | but not sure why |
| 15:25.17 | Ahli | but you can't have 4 weapons and link in pairs of 2? |
| 15:27.10 | Taintedwisp | CArdanis without layout files if the unit is a hero unit it will only display 1 |
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| 15:28.30 | Taintedwisp | I FUCKING HATE LAYOUTS |
| 15:28.36 | Taintedwisp | FUCK WHY DO THEY FUCKING REVERT |
| 15:29.34 | Cardanis | Okay, how would I go about linking the cooldown of those weapons? Also, how do I find the names of the attachment points I'm currently looking at in the cutscene editor? |
| 15:29.43 | Taintedwisp | JademusSreg, you know why layouts randomly revert? the text inside them doesnt but their effect on the game does |
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| 15:30.59 | Cardanis | basically, I want two weapons that are essentially the same, but change depending on what they're atttacking, so one will do a different effect against armored, the other will fire against light, but I need them both to be on the same cooldown. And for the unit to have other weapons =P |
| 15:36.01 | Taintedwisp | Cardanis there is a Link cooldown in the cost field |
| 15:36.07 | Taintedwisp | just set them both to the same thing |
| 15:36.13 | Ahli | hmm, I'm nearly done with my rogue's skill design... |
| 15:36.29 | Cardanis | alright, thanks. And finding the names of attachment points? |
| 15:37.21 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/SawAa.jpg need one more ability... any suggestions? |
| 15:38.46 | Vindicator | an ultimate multishot |
| 15:39.02 | Taintedwisp | THERE added a pressed image to all my butons |
| 15:39.03 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 15:39.05 | Vindicator | multishot doesn't have to be in the name, but i mean take it to the max |
| 15:39.24 | Ahli | I got a multishot |
| 15:39.59 | Taintedwisp | For me attachment points are just trial and error cardanis, but if you dont wanna do that(sometimes it has REALLY cool effects that I wouldnt even think about), you just go into the cutscene editor, Place the model you wish to see, then right click it at the very bottom left and click show model data |
| 15:40.08 | Taintedwisp | from there you just open the attachments folder |
| 15:40.16 | Vindicator | right, i'm saying another version of that but make it something way more impressive than what ur multishot ability is |
| 15:40.19 | Taintedwisp | and it will show all available attachments for that unit |
| 15:40.22 | Ahli | maybe some debuff castable on enemies... |
| 15:41.11 | JademusSreg | Dunno what you mean Taint. |
| 15:42.07 | Ahli | the draft for my warrior: http://snag.gy/CPOeg.jpg |
| 15:42.12 | JademusSreg | In any case, bbl |
| 15:42.48 | Taintedwisp | I was telling cardanis how to view all available attachments for a unit |
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| 15:50.39 | Ahli | well, I just make it inner sight |
| 15:50.58 | Ahli | d2 mercs had that ability |
| 15:51.25 | Cardanis | guh, just looking at the Mover editing window is nauseating |
| 15:53.49 | Ahli | I don't like my golden shot idea, but I need something ranged, single target# |
| 16:02.33 | Cardanis | Hmmm, the new Thor 'transform for different ait' ability. . . doesn't seem to be in the campaign dependencies? |
| 16:02.45 | Taintedwisp | uhh no? |
| 16:02.49 | Cardanis | air~ |
| 16:02.51 | Taintedwisp | tahts part of the hots multi mod |
| 16:03.12 | Cardanis | Ya, but when I go to add the multi mod, it says it'll cause problems when used with the campaign mod |
| 16:03.12 | Taintedwisp | its just an apply behavior that applys a new weapon |
| 16:03.16 | Taintedwisp | and pauses an animation |
| 16:03.17 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 16:03.22 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 16:03.23 | Taintedwisp | it will |
| 16:03.30 | Taintedwisp | its better to just re-create it |
| 16:03.44 | Cardanis | Hmm. Kk. What I was actually looking for was the attachment method used to attach the launch assets to those guns |
| 16:04.34 | G0A | is there a way to tint model by player color in actor events? in other words, detecting player color in actor events? |
| 16:09.21 | Taintedwisp | G0A you will have to send an actor message via trigger I believe. or do a bunch of validators(dunno if possible, havent tried to validate player color) |
| 16:09.39 | Taintedwisp | You can EASILY do it in triggers |
| 16:12.07 | G0A | yeah its easy in triggers |
| 16:12.29 | Taintedwisp | if you can validate player color, then its just going to be creating 15 actor events, 1 for each color |
| 16:12.32 | Taintedwisp | and 15 validators |
| 16:12.52 | G0A | yeah |
| 16:12.57 | G0A | I will just use triggers.D |
| 16:13.02 | Taintedwisp | :P |
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| 16:17.10 | Dogmai | I feel so over everything. |
| 16:17.12 | Dogmai | So tired. |
| 16:17.18 | Dogmai | The entire scene is not moving. |
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| 16:19.16 | rtschutter | Does anyone know offhand the code for coloring text via value? |
| 16:19.44 | Ahli | color tags within the text itself? |
| 16:19.56 | rtschutter | yes |
| 16:19.58 | rtschutter | exactly |
| 16:20.07 | Ahli | <c="123456">text <(c> |
| 16:20.10 | Ahli | I believe |
| 16:20.13 | Ahli | </c> |
| 16:20.16 | rtschutter | awesome thank you very much |
| 16:21.41 | rtschutter | have you been working on an interface mod? |
| 16:22.12 | Ahli | not within the last few days |
| 16:22.14 | Ahli | before, yes |
| 16:22.18 | Dustin | Helloo |
| 16:22.26 | Ahli | but Blizzard released their stuff |
| 16:23.09 | rtschutter | yeah I saw that |
| 16:23.24 | Ahli | well... "Blizzard"... they gave it to sixen and he posted it... then they don't even mention that anywhere on their end to make it look very shady for people not from this site |
| 16:25.06 | rtschutter | well they released it to everyone |
| 16:25.08 | rtschutter | not just sixen |
| 16:25.20 | rtschutter | they had a list of people |
| 16:25.25 | rtschutter | to send it out to when it was ready |
| 16:25.36 | rtschutter | so all the tournaments got the same thing |
| 16:25.48 | rtschutter | its probably somewhat why those topics don't seem as popular as you would expect |
| 16:26.07 | Ahli | well, the shame is that they don't release the info to everyone directly |
| 16:26.19 | Ahli | and message these people to look there or send them a copy of that |
| 16:26.57 | rtschutter | yeah |
| 16:28.42 | rtschutter | I am releasing a new version of gameheart tonight in hopes GSTL will use it |
| 16:29.24 | Ahli | do your tags show both things in the reactor production properly? |
| 16:29.32 | rtschutter | nah |
| 16:29.35 | Ahli | why not? |
| 16:29.46 | rtschutter | I spent a long time trying to get it to work but there is something weird |
| 16:29.50 | rtschutter | about how the production queues work |
| 16:30.00 | rtschutter | it makes it difficult to pull the proper information |
| 16:30.04 | Ahli | well, I made it work. |
| 16:30.28 | rtschutter | it hardly even matters at this point |
| 16:30.33 | rtschutter | with the info panel on screen |
| 16:30.38 | rtschutter | I am not sure I will even keep the labels anymore |
| 16:30.44 | rtschutter | though I like them |
| 16:30.48 | rtschutter | GSTL turns them off |
| 16:31.22 | rtschutter | but what code did you use to reference the second item? |
| 16:31.30 | rtschutter | because there is something about multiple production queues |
| 16:31.35 | rtschutter | but they seem to be from the same queue |
| 16:31.45 | Ahli | I'm saving the produced unit ID I believe |
| 16:32.22 | Ahli | need to look it up ;) |
| 16:32.36 | rtschutter | if you ever find a way |
| 16:32.40 | rtschutter | to show the default victory screen |
| 16:32.49 | rtschutter | but with a different players race/name |
| 16:32.53 | rtschutter | I could really use that |
| 16:32.55 | rtschutter | lol |
| 16:33.36 | Zolden | is there an official sc2 world champion? |
| 16:34.21 | rtschutter | I am not sure |
| 16:34.32 | rtschutter | there was a WCS champion last year |
| 16:34.36 | rtschutter | and a WCG champion |
| 16:35.12 | Taintedwisp | lol what you expect dogmai? |
| 16:35.17 | Taintedwisp | Blizzard did it again.. |
| 16:35.28 | Zolden | in chess there is one and only one world champion, and it's entertaining how other players trying to become one |
| 16:35.28 | Taintedwisp | Soon as HoTS came out, they said fuck it and duced again |
| 16:35.48 | Taintedwisp | the only comments they have made since HoTS is on melee maps -_- |
| 16:35.55 | Taintedwisp | they once again prove that they only give a shit about melee maps |
| 16:36.38 | Taintedwisp | if you go make some rage threads on battle.net they will show up here for a few days, but then they will leave again soon as the heat cools off |
| 16:36.46 | Taintedwisp | It took a 50 post thread last time. |
| 16:37.11 | Taintedwisp | and then they threatend to ban me on the forums for that... |
| 16:37.39 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: counter ban them before they ban you |
| 16:37.42 | Taintedwisp | There are various problems., theres no motivation withing the mapping community, besides a few, and theres zero motivation in the player base |
| 16:38.18 | Taintedwisp | Blizzard showed where they place the arcade when they named it "Arcade" i think the name is kind of degrading to be honest |
| 16:38.46 | Taintedwisp | we've been deduced to cheap quick fun. |
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| 16:40.34 | Cardanis | What'd they mess up on? |
| 16:49.11 | Taintedwisp | A lot :) |
| 16:49.54 | Taintedwisp | Just stupid shit they refused to admit they are wrong and give up on mostly, but also the fact that we recieve absolutely no support, even though always online fucks people over and causes issues |
| 16:55.40 | Cardanis | Ya, that's something that's frustrated me a lot about SC2, no support for modded maps |
| 16:55.48 | Cardanis | I love to play the arcade a lot |
| 16:55.58 | Cardanis | but it's annoying that i can only feasibly play the like, top 5 games |
| 16:56.07 | Cardanis | unless i already have a group of people together willing to play new maps |
| 16:57.01 | Cardanis | (Side question, say you have two weapons with shared cooldown and equal range, how do you tell which weapon has priority over the other?_ |
| 17:02.56 | G0A | Taintedwisp maybe its time to do some raging on the Bnet forums, now I can say they suck while I have really popular map. |
| 17:03.07 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 17:03.10 | Taintedwisp | GO for it |
| 17:03.26 | Sixen | rtschutter: We should talk, Archer (another MVP) wanted me to get in contactwith you. |
| 17:03.29 | Taintedwisp | Imma write a reddit post anonymously(my actual reddit account was banned for calling a moderator a faggot) |
| 17:03.32 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
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| 17:04.02 | Repo | New map: Dodge the Zerg - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/dodge-zerg-beta/ |
| 17:04.12 | Taintedwisp | he gave me a warning after he insulted my mini chop farms, told me if I posted my crappy projects on reddit again he would ban me. |
| 17:04.18 | Taintedwisp | so I said "Fuck off faggot" |
| 17:04.20 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:05.17 | twodie | anyone have tips how to make Ability Instant/Target to order unit to search for unit type and go to it to do actions? |
| 17:05.28 | G0A | yeah Tainted we dont get suprised if you get banned:) |
| 17:05.28 | twodie | tried using search area effect. |
| 17:05.45 | Touk | ya |
| 17:06.12 | Touk | SIXEN WHY U NO LOVE ME NO MORE T_T\ |
| 17:06.30 | twodie | seems like doing something wrong. plus when presing Ability instant, unit just stops, and ability instant effects must point to Ability target. |
| 17:06.36 | Zolden | twodie: you want an ability to scan for a certain unit type, and if it find one, the abil owner go to the unit and do things? |
| 17:07.54 | twodie | recreating return cargo functionality |
| 17:08.25 | twodie | so i using Summoned unit attribute for drop off units |
| 17:08.42 | Zolden | twodie: you need a validator to check a unit type, and search effect will have this validator, so it will only affect the units of this type |
| 17:08.45 | G0A | which subforums get read by blizz stuff on https://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/ ? anyone knows? |
| 17:09.14 | Taintedwisp | I went to the old custom games, but you can try misc or general |
| 17:09.30 | Zolden | twodie: you could validaty unit's type, but if you feel more comfortable with an attribute, it's ok too |
| 17:09.33 | Taintedwisp | G0A i did nothing to start it -_-, but I wont be insulted by some prick. |
| 17:10.04 | twodie | Zolden i need for unit to go to units first |
| 17:10.35 | Zolden | twodie: search applies a move command |
| 17:11.23 | Zolden | twodie: unit just need to have a behavior with a periodic search effect, which would search in a small radius, and do things when the unit reaches the target |
| 17:11.44 | twodie | how about that i linked to other ability target to make unit move to units for do actions if unit will be ordered in case of right click? |
| 17:12.06 | Zolden | twodie: or the first search applies two commands, to move to, and to drop the resources, but the second one must have a flag to be queued |
| 17:12.27 | twodie | i need unit to find unit and then go to drop off unit, not period change targets |
| 17:13.12 | Zolden | twodie: yes, you can create an abil with a small radius and command the unit to perform the abil, so he will approach, but I remember there was a strange thing: if the distance is too big, unit stops half a way |
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| 17:13.22 | yolo_ | hey |
| 17:13.24 | yolo_ | anyone |
| 17:13.32 | yolo_ | how do i increase cost by trigger? |
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| 17:14.02 | yolo_ | if i use an ability, after cooldown, the cost is increased. |
| 17:14.05 | Zolden | twodie: so i think you better let the search to apply move, then the drop in queue |
| 17:14.09 | Zolden | i think it's the best |
| 17:14.35 | twodie | Zolden ok will try |
| 17:14.49 | Taintedwisp | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c593p/blizzard_and_the_custom_community/ |
| 17:14.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:16.17 | yolo_ | hey |
| 17:16.19 | yolo_ | help me |
| 17:17.18 | G0A | you cant change textures of splats in editor? |
| 17:17.27 | yolo_ | anyone help me! |
| 17:17.31 | G0A | (seems logical, but still) |
| 17:18.05 | G0A | WOW https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlyW2NvDLIQ |
| 17:18.13 | yolo_ | hey OGA |
| 17:18.17 | yolo_ | help me |
| 17:19.16 | G0A | for all units? |
| 17:19.20 | G0A | use catalog |
| 17:19.48 | Kubi | YOLO |
| 17:19.55 | Kubi | SWAGOGA |
| 17:20.01 | Kubi | YOLO GOA SWAG |
| 17:20.42 | Zolden | G0A: looks cool, but must be laggy |
| 17:20.54 | G0A | description says its not |
| 17:21.24 | yolo_ | how do i increase cost by trigger |
| 17:21.32 | yolo_ | cost of upgrade |
| 17:21.46 | yolo_ | cost of building |
| 17:22.45 | yolo_ | hello |
| 17:22.48 | G0A | yolo_ catalogs |
| 17:22.54 | Kubi | We're not your fucking instant service. |
| 17:22.58 | Kubi | HELLO |
| 17:22.59 | Kubi | WELCOME |
| 17:23.02 | Kubi | TO |
| 17:23.07 | Kubi | BLIZZARD MAP MAKING TICKETING SERVICE |
| 17:23.09 | yolo_ | catalog? |
| 17:23.10 | Kubi | I SEE |
| 17:23.11 | Kubi | YOU HAVE |
| 17:23.12 | Kubi | A PROBLEM |
| 17:23.13 | Kubi | IN YO |
| 17:23.14 | Kubi | MAP |
| 17:23.18 | Kubi | WHAT IS UR QUESTIOn |
| 17:23.30 | yolo_ | if i make a building |
| 17:23.42 | yolo_ | the cost of building is increased by 100 |
| 17:23.52 | yolo_ | it keeps |
| 17:24.00 | yolo_ | whenever i make building |
| 17:24.28 | Zolden | G0A: can you make the same for your slide map? |
| 17:24.29 | Kubi | yolo_, I understand you having troubles with the editor. We're not here to hold your hand every set in the process of making a map. If you're asking already how to increase an upgrade, I can tell you're going to ask every little feature that crosses your mind. Learn some maps, open some up. Get knowledge. |
| 17:24.55 | yolo_ | not upgrade |
| 17:25.03 | yolo_ | only building |
| 17:25.06 | yolo_ | that was typo |
| 17:25.09 | Kubi | Cost |
| 17:25.11 | Kubi | in data editor |
| 17:25.27 | yolo_ | when i make bunker |
| 17:25.40 | yolo_ | if i made first bunker |
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| 17:25.48 | yolo_ | second bunker is expensive |
| 17:25.55 | yolo_ | than first bunker |
| 17:25.57 | G0A | Zolden what you mean? My slide map doesnt lag or its not really noticeable. It doesnt use any mouse or button events... |
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| 17:26.24 | Zolden | G0A: i remember my finger always get tired of clicking |
| 17:26.38 | G0A | :D |
| 17:26.48 | yolo_ | how do i increase cost of bunker by trigger? |
| 17:27.25 | yolo_ | except catalog |
| 17:27.47 | G0A | Zolden you need stronger fingers, you need a nimfo girl friend:D |
| 17:28.05 | Zolden | :)) |
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| 17:28.15 | Dustin | Yolo, Catalog, or you don't increase it. |
| 17:28.23 | Dustin | Or use Data |
| 17:28.24 | yolo_ | or data |
| 17:28.30 | Dustin | Those are your options. |
| 17:28.36 | yolo_ | can i increase cost whenever i make new bunker in data |
| 17:28.54 | Kubi | If you want to increase it everytime. |
| 17:29.07 | Kubi | scream yolo |
| 17:29.22 | Kubi | I bet there is a way to increase it everytime by 100 by behaviors |
| 17:29.24 | Dustin | You need to make a set or something with the build ability and make it apply an upgrade that increases the cost of the building when you build one |
| 17:29.26 | Kubi | or do it with trigger |
| 17:29.51 | Kubi | Or suck dustin's dick |
| 17:29.55 | Kubi | because his map is featured |
| 17:30.05 | yolo_ | catalog seems too hard |
| 17:30.07 | Dustin | Not yey, but it will be soon :D |
| 17:30.13 | Taintedwisp | what map dustin make that being featured? |
| 17:30.17 | Kubi | I'm going to give a one star rating |
| 17:30.30 | Dustin | Hybrid assault |
| 17:30.39 | Taintedwisp | never heard of it.. |
| 17:30.40 | Dustin | I gotta finish it up and add some polish |
| 17:30.47 | Dustin | Yeah it's still in development |
| 17:30.48 | Kubi | and put in the review, "Not enough rocks from Dustin to satisfy my taste" |
| 17:30.55 | Kubi | if its not released |
| 17:30.56 | Kubi | How did they know about it? |
| 17:30.58 | Dustin | I don't push it yet cause im still working on it |
| 17:31.07 | Dustin | He played it on the arcade and emailed me |
| 17:31.40 | Dustin | It seems they have a team that just plays Arcade maps |
| 17:31.48 | Dustin | And reaches out to the map makers |
| 17:31.50 | Eagles | but |
| 17:31.58 | Eagles | if its not released, how did they know about it |
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| 17:32.04 | Kubi_ | Dustin, is it on the arcade publically right now or privately? |
| 17:32.05 | Dustin | It's published |
| 17:32.10 | Kubi_ | Oh |
| 17:32.17 | Kubi_ | so its in development but still able to play. |
| 17:32.19 | Dustin | Ya |
| 17:32.23 | Kubi_ | k |
| 17:32.25 | Kubi_ | I was wondering for a second |
| 17:32.26 | Kubi_ | I was like |
| 17:32.30 | Dustin | haha ya |
| 17:32.31 | Kubi_ | Can blizzard see our maps? |
| 17:32.36 | Kubi_ | are they playing our versions |
| 17:32.38 | Kubi_ | without us noticing |
| 17:32.41 | Kubi_ | are they WATCHING US?! |
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| 17:33.10 | Kubi_ | I can imagine being a blizzard employee looking at unfinished maps |
| 17:33.11 | Kubi_ | and be like |
| 17:33.17 | Kubi_ | "oh that looks promising" |
| 17:33.19 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 17:33.25 | Kubi_ | "oh wait nevermind, it says taintedwisp on it" |
| 17:33.25 | Taintedwisp_ | lawl |
| 17:33.31 | Taintedwisp_ | Mine dont say Taintedwisp |
| 17:33.47 | Taintedwisp_ | say Ishadowwolf(James Mitchell) on them |
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| 17:33.58 | Kubi_ | I made some amazing spell ideas |
| 17:34.03 | Kubi_ | and plan to get rid of all aura type spells |
| 17:34.05 | Kubi_ | because they boring |
| 17:34.06 | Taintedwisp_ | what are they? |
| 17:34.09 | Kubi_ | fuck you |
| 17:34.14 | Kubi_ | you cant have my secrets |
| 17:34.16 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 17:34.24 | Taintedwisp_ | Aura spells are nice, but I like to keep them low in amounts |
| 17:34.32 | Kubi_ | I dont want any aura type spells |
| 17:34.36 | Kubi_ | not on a hero atleast |
| 17:34.43 | Kubi_ | They should just be buffs |
| 17:34.47 | Kubi_ | but they can be fancy buffs |
| 17:35.02 | Taintedwisp_ | igot 1 for Health Regen that regens hp in battle, and 1 for Damage. |
| 17:35.06 | Taintedwisp_ | OH and i have another Aura |
| 17:35.08 | Taintedwisp_ | thats awesome |
| 17:35.09 | Kubi_ | Doesn't have to be a "SEARCH AREA" -> "APPLY BEHAVIOR" |
| 17:35.37 | Taintedwisp_ | Based on the units level. it buffs surrounding units :) |
| 17:35.44 | Taintedwisp_ | So 1 buff for each level to 18 |
| 17:35.57 | Kubi_ | I made Kraiths abilities, and Archangels |
| 17:36.01 | Kubi_ | Need to do K5 Kerrigans |
| 17:36.02 | Kubi_ | Augh |
| 17:36.10 | Kubi_ | oh and silvans |
| 17:36.21 | Kubi_ | silvans was a bitch and a lot of unneeded bullshit |
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| 17:37.34 | Zolden_ | Zolden |
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| 17:55.14 | G0A | hey Zolden, you have experience with changing texture on splats? http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/29704-splats-o/#p1 |
| 17:56.00 | twodie | hey http://pastebin.com/Y3e2dUjD |
| 17:56.17 | twodie | when behavior stack is removed it doesnt give minerals to the player |
| 17:56.19 | Zolden | G0A: yea |
| 17:56.51 | G0A | Zolden then how the fuck I set up the texture declarations? |
| 17:57.11 | G0A | I did what the guy says in the thread but doesnt work out |
| 17:57.26 | Zolden | I only know how to apply textures in max |
| 17:57.32 | G0A | :( |
| 17:58.37 | Zolden | what is your purpose? maybe i can help you by creating some splats? |
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| 17:59.46 | Zolden | also, if anyone need a particle emitter wich launches alot of penises in the air, ask me, i'll be glad to create it |
| 18:00.32 | Kubi_ | Mmm penises |
| 18:00.37 | Kubi_ | Make me a frost one |
| 18:00.49 | Kubi_ | With a range of 2 |
| 18:00.52 | Kubi_ | like a firebat range |
| 18:01.12 | Zolden | frost penis? |
| 18:03.54 | twodie | so... |
| 18:04.09 | twodie | player doesnt get minerals when behavior is removed |
| 18:05.55 | twodie | okay thanks everyone for attention! problem solved! I think! |
| 18:06.22 | Zolden | twodie: solved? |
| 18:06.32 | Zolden | i knew my silent advice will help |
| 18:06.41 | twodie | thanks god! |
| 18:09.42 | twodie | ok so made some ugly gathering for now. You have to order workers to gather individually and return cargo. More micro ftw! Since return cargo stuff button doesnt work, a lot of right clicking must be done |
| 18:11.55 | Zolden | great, now make em stop afetr eaach second of movement, so players'd need to command all the time |
| 18:12.00 | Zolden | to gather something |
| 18:12.15 | Taintedwisp_ | g0A you make a post? |
| 18:12.39 | Zolden | also, periodically print a "fu noob" message |
| 18:12.43 | Reaperguyver | lucky bastards your maps work :( lol |
| 18:13.11 | G0A | Taintedwisp_ dont know where could I make it to get it read by anyone... |
| 18:13.18 | Taintedwisp_ | General or misc |
| 18:13.31 | G0A | ? |
| 18:13.33 | twodie | "FU noob" message i will do no matter the case of the gathering working or not |
| 18:15.58 | Taintedwisp_ | general or misc forums on the battle.net forums |
| 18:16.01 | Taintedwisp_ | or on Team Liquid |
| 18:17.00 | Zolden | post on hot chick's ass, ppl will read it |
| 18:18.00 | G0A | Taintedwisp_ Nobody from blizzard reads those |
| 18:18.07 | Taintedwisp_ | yes they do |
| 18:18.14 | Taintedwisp_ | blizz post more on team liquid then their own forums |
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| 18:18.21 | jujuvh | hello |
| 18:18.24 | jujuvh | http://i.imgur.com/qpxwmNl.jpg |
| 18:18.31 | jujuvh | both units have same behavior |
| 18:18.43 | jujuvh | but one doesnt show the timed life bar |
| 18:18.46 | jujuvh | why |
| 18:19.12 | Zolden | got to its actor and enable progress bar |
| 18:19.15 | Kueken1 | this is defined in the Status Bar Flags of the unit actor |
| 18:21.17 | Kueken | did someone tell Jade about the guy with the copyright issues? |
| 18:21.19 | jujuvh | oh it worked thx |
| 18:21.44 | Zolden | Kueken: what guy? what issues? |
| 18:21.56 | Zolden | someone told him about music today |
| 18:22.04 | Kueken | thats probably it |
| 18:22.11 | jujuvh | when i destroy unit |
| 18:22.25 | Zolden | and he said he stopped working on it and posted the source and someone else is working on it |
| 18:22.27 | jujuvh | unit's scraps are not gone forever |
| 18:22.31 | Kueken | yesterday someone complained Jade would use his music in his map without his permission |
| 18:22.53 | Zolden | lol, stupid |
| 18:23.05 | Zolden | i'd be glad if someone would use my music |
| 18:23.13 | Kueken | I wouldn't call it stupid, its a valid claim |
| 18:23.26 | jujuvh | how do i make units dead boy disappear? |
| 18:23.34 | jujuvh | *body |
| 18:23.35 | Kueken | granted, if you get more exposure it might help indeed |
| 18:23.51 | Kueken | jujuvh: What unit are we talking about? |
| 18:24.13 | jujuvh | Terrazine tank |
| 18:24.18 | Zolden | jujuvh: I think it creates a death actor, and you need to add a timed estroy event |
| 18:24.56 | Kueken | a default unit actor using the default death model should disappear as soon as the death animation for the death model runs out |
| 18:25.19 | jujuvh | it has 2 actors |
| 18:25.46 | Kueken | so the issue is either in the actors or the model has a permanent/very long death animation |
| 18:25.49 | Zolden | check its main actor, is there something about creating a death actor? |
| 18:26.37 | Zolden | Kueken: you think units model won't get removed if death animation is cycled? |
| 18:27.11 | jujuvh | i can't make building on the place where unit was destroyed |
| 18:27.14 | Kueken | not sure, usually the default death model actor's animation bracket is flagged to play looped animations only once |
| 18:27.47 | Kueken | check the death time of the unit |
| 18:28.33 | Zolden | there is actually a thread on forum which helped me when i had this issue |
| 18:28.35 | Kueken | is this a premade terrazine tank unit or is this a custom unit you created yourself? |
| 18:28.44 | Zolden | worth searching |
| 18:28.50 | jujuvh | not custom |
| 18:28.57 | jujuvh | original terrazine tank |
| 18:30.21 | jujuvh | there are many death events |
| 18:30.29 | jujuvh | what must i do |
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| 18:30.43 | Kueken | I thought the blocking building on death was a bug, which was fixed at some point? |
| 18:31.15 | Kueken | not sure, I might take a look in a couple of minutes and get back to you |
| 18:31.28 | Kueken | brb |
| 18:32.09 | jujuvh | is this related with death time ? |
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| 18:34.23 | jujuvh | wow |
| 18:34.30 | jujuvh | now i can walk over the place |
| 18:34.39 | jujuvh | i changed death time -1 to 0 |
| 18:35.45 | jujuvh | i solved problem |
| 18:36.38 | Reaperguyver | cool |
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| 19:11.05 | Taintedwisp_ | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1c593p/blizzard_and_the_custom_community/ why all the downvotes? |
| 19:11.18 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 19:13.06 | Cardanis | Hmmm. . . so, I have four weapons on a unit, and I want them to share cooldowns in groups of two. . . I have them linked to two different id's, but it seems when one fires, the other goes on cooldown. Ideas? |
| 19:13.13 | A1winjakyrpansa | A1win: wouldn't your ather pronounce minä mau'un like minä mavun? |
| 19:13.18 | A1winjakyrpansa | mau'un sounds so awkward |
| 19:14.19 | A1win | if you stop the trolling I might want to have a conversation again some day |
| 19:16.08 | Cardanis | Anyone? Two different groups of shared weapons on the same unit? |
| 19:19.32 | A1winjakyrpansa | A1win: you hate me. |
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| 19:31.40 | Eagles_ | How can I play a sound when an ability is used? |
| 19:31.43 | G0A | Taintedwisp_ because some of the points are crap |
| 19:31.51 | A1win | Eagles_, with a sound actor |
| 19:32.00 | Taintedwisp_ | lawl |
| 19:32.12 | Kueken | Cardanis: so you set up 2 pairs of ids, and what exactly happens? |
| 19:32.19 | A1win | Eagles_, Sound type actor with a "Create" actor message when an ability is used |
| 19:33.10 | Eagles_ | ok, sorry I sohuld have been more specific. It's an Ability of Type: Pawn, is that still possible? I can't find any way to select actors for my ability |
| 19:33.26 | Eagles_ | Oh do you mean I should use a trigger? |
| 19:33.34 | A1win | no |
| 19:33.50 | A1win | you don't select actors for anything |
| 19:33.59 | A1win | the actor refers to the ability |
| 19:34.04 | A1win | not the other way round |
| 19:34.15 | Eagles_ | ok cool, i'll try it |
| 19:36.06 | Eagles_ | Is that an Event? |
| 19:36.37 | Kueken | you create a new actor of type sound, then add an event kinda like Ability.x.used ->create |
| 19:37.16 | Kueken | have a look at the Marine_Stimpack sound actor |
| 19:37.34 | Kueken | not sure, if it works that way with a Pawn ability, you will need to try that |
| 19:37.55 | Kubi_ | OH SHIT |
| 19:37.59 | Kubi_ | I FUCKED SOMETHING UP |
| 19:38.01 | Kubi_ | ABORT |
| 19:38.04 | Kubi_ | ABORT |
| 19:38.46 | G0A | Is there a quick fix on red emissive texture bug, which happens when you apply the texture to some specific models? |
| 19:39.09 | Kubi_ | lol |
| 19:39.36 | Kubi_ | I misclicked and created a launch missile with a search area effectively creating a never ending loop that multiples. |
| 19:39.36 | Eagles_ | I don't seem to have the same Sub Names for my ability as the Marine_Stimpack |
| 19:41.17 | Eagles_ | Shouldn't a refund fraction of 0.25 return 25% of the item cost? |
| 19:42.31 | Kueken | G0A: you mean the texture glowing in teamcolor? |
| 19:43.05 | Kueken | edit the texture and convert black to transparency |
| 19:43.09 | Eagles_ | Awesome, seems to work with (Any) Kueken! Thanks both of you :) |
| 19:44.46 | G0A | Kueken I wanted quick fix.D |
| 19:45.19 | Kubi_ | So I have a GTX 650 nvidia card laying around, I think I might do for a tournament for my map |
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| 19:47.06 | kubi | Like I was saying |
| 19:47.20 | kubi | I have a GTX 650 laying around I might use for an award for the tournament |
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| 19:50.39 | twodie | nigggggggggggggggga |
| 19:51.35 | Eagles_ | Can I have the same actor for several units? |
| 19:54.29 | Kueken | should be possible |
| 19:54.36 | kubi | Yes. |
| 19:55.31 | twodie | asd |
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| 20:04.51 | kubi | ~Seen JademusSreg |
| 20:05.02 | purl | jademussreg is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 221 messages. Is idling for 4h 22m 50s, last said: 'In any case, bbl'. |
| 20:05.02 | kubi | ~mail JademusSreg |
| 20:05.02 | purl | ACTION folds JademusSreg up, puts a dozen stamps on him and mails JademusSreg to Russia with love. |
| 20:07.50 | Cardanis | Quick question, for the 'final' effect on a buff, is it possible to have that NOT trigger if the buff was removed because of death? |
| 20:08.27 | Stewox | guys |
| 20:08.42 | Stewox | how do i set AI difficulty in-editor test document ? |
| 20:08.53 | Stewox | via scripts |
| 20:09.01 | Stewox | because Editor has outdated preferences |
| 20:09.18 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.40 | Stewox | ah lol |
| 20:09.45 | Stewox | well it does actually |
| 20:10.13 | Stewox | i looked now ant it is , before i had Campaign map from WOL opened so that's why it wasn't showing |
| 20:11.20 | kubi | you fag it up |
| 20:11.27 | Kueken | Cardanis: You can use the Expire effect instead, which only triggers, if the buff expired "naturally" |
| 20:11.51 | Kueken | or you add a "source not dead" validator to the effect executed as final effect |
| 20:14.20 | Stewox | hu hu interesting http://www.infowars.com/italian-supreme-court-president-blames-bilderberg-for-terrorist-attacks/ |
| 20:15.00 | Ahli | lol, someone found an exploit to hack airplanes... |
| 20:15.06 | Ahli | not good |
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| 20:16.14 | Kueken | Ahli: from an android :D |
| 20:16.53 | yeahdot | how to make instant ability that would order a unit to go to Search Area filtered units |
| 20:16.59 | kubi | you can disable an entire wifi network with an android fyi |
| 20:17.26 | kubi | if you can connect to it, you can disable it |
| 20:17.54 | Kueken | yeahdot: ability -> search ->issue order |
| 20:18.28 | yeahdot | Kueken i did something wrong that with doing such way it doesnt do nothing |
| 20:18.45 | Kueken | great, more information :) |
| 20:18.45 | yeahdot | anything* |
| 20:18.53 | Kueken | I might need some more, though |
| 20:19.39 | Kueken | so you did set up an ability - instant executing a search effect, which executed an issue order effect? |
| 20:19.58 | Kueken | did you confirm, if the effects are actually executed? |
| 20:20.13 | Kueken | maybe by adding an actor |
| 20:20.23 | kubi | Sweet, converted one of my auras to a castable spell |
| 20:20.27 | kubi | way better than, a hero aura |
| 20:20.35 | kubi | Hero Auras are so useless. |
| 20:20.44 | Kueken | if you say so :D |
| 20:21.05 | Kueken | greatly depends on the kind of map and the kind of aura, though |
| 20:21.07 | yeahdot | pic1 http://snag.gy/JiCPr.jpg |
| 20:21.32 | yeahdot | pic 2 http://snag.gy/N2P8e.jpg |
| 20:22.46 | yeahdot | set effect, have modified field for issue order which effect is set to move |
| 20:23.03 | Kueken | add a kill effect to the set to see, if its executed |
| 20:27.17 | yeahdot | i set it to damage effect and it did damage to summuned unit |
| 20:27.41 | Cardanis | Thanks Kueken! |
| 20:28.11 | Kueken | good |
| 20:28.23 | Kueken | so the issue order is the problem |
| 20:28.32 | Kueken | paste the xml data |
| 20:29.06 | yeahdot | http://pastebin.com/G12Jhmsi |
| 20:29.46 | Kueken | okay, so the only thing you changed is the ability |
| 20:30.02 | yeahdot | okay |
| 20:30.21 | Kueken | that was a question ;) |
| 20:30.37 | yeahdot | that was an answer |
| 20:30.45 | Kueken | :) |
| 20:30.53 | Kueken | glad we understand each other |
| 20:30.57 | Kueken | try the following |
| 20:31.13 | Kueken | set the Unit+ field to Caster |
| 20:31.26 | Kueken | the Player+ field too |
| 20:31.40 | Kueken | and the Target+ field to Target Unit |
| 20:31.49 | Kueken | then test |
| 20:33.23 | yeahdot | yay, niggas will be happy ^^ |
| 20:34.27 | Kueken | does that translate into "It works now"? |
| 20:34.36 | yeahdot | yes |
| 20:34.41 | Kueken | good :) |
| 20:35.13 | yeahdot | not bad |
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| 20:36.24 | Stewox | guys |
| 20:36.33 | Stewox | what does usermode +Zi means ? |
| 20:43.21 | A1winjakyrpansa | A1win: you hate me. =( |
| 20:46.53 | JademusSreg | Zoop. |
| 20:49.01 | Taintedwisp_ | zamp |
| 20:49.31 | Kueken | hey Jade |
| 20:49.36 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 20:49.38 | Taintedwisp_ | dont say hey to him |
| 20:49.46 | Taintedwisp_ | SHUN THAT ROBOT!!! |
| 20:49.51 | Taintedwisp_ | :) |
| 20:50.04 | Taintedwisp_ | Hey jademus I added new buttons to my project, they look really good :) |
| 20:50.05 | Kueken | did the guy with the music talk to you? |
| 20:50.22 | JademusSreg | When did this become a thing people ask me? |
| 20:50.35 | Taintedwisp_ | Did the guy with the music talk to you? |
| 20:50.38 | Taintedwisp_ | trolol |
| 20:50.52 | A1win | it's the new greeting |
| 20:51.01 | Taintedwisp | of course |
| 20:51.18 | Kueken | just wandering |
| 20:51.53 | A1win | hmm I wonder why I thought I can't make the motherships move in the shooter game thing... can just update mouse coordinates when camera moves, shouldn't be a problem D: |
| 20:52.03 | JademusSreg | Wondering while wandering? |
| 20:52.10 | Taintedwisp | of course |
| 20:52.32 | A1winjakyrpansa | Kueken: you hate me. |
| 20:52.55 | Kueken | I don't hate you, Lajl |
| 20:52.56 | Kueken | a |
| 20:53.27 | Taintedwisp | ewwww, why you talking to that pest kueken, dont you have better things to do with your time then talk to a he-she? :) |
| 20:53.55 | JademusSreg | Found out that a Camera actor hooked up to a unit generates a fair amount of lag. Or rather, a Camera actor configured such that it works as a FPS camera. |
| 20:54.24 | JademusSreg | Not entirely certain why that would be the case, but whatever. |
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| 20:56.20 | A1winjakyrpansa | Kueken but you ignored me bec cause I was vastly obnoxious |
| 20:56.30 | Kueken | yes |
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| 20:57.00 | yeahdot | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/51368-custom-gathering-abilities-chain/ |
| 20:58.13 | A1winjakyrpansa | Kueken see you hate me. |
| 20:58.20 | A1winjakyrpansa | you think I'm weird and obnoxious |
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| 21:06.44 | exitus | hi is there any way how to copy map from america region to europe? (iam not owner of the map) |
| 21:08.09 | JademusSreg | Obtain the map or otherwise convince the owner to publish. |
| 21:08.39 | exitus | how can i obtain it? |
| 21:08.56 | JademusSreg | Magic? |
| 21:09.14 | exitus | ? |
| 21:09.17 | JademusSreg | Ask the owner nicely? |
| 21:10.02 | exitus | hmmm and how to contact owner? :) |
| 21:10.21 | JademusSreg | Try battlenet? |
| 21:10.54 | exitus | i dont know his id...only nick |
| 21:11.07 | A1win | there is a link to his profile in the map |
| 21:11.19 | A1win | the arcade page of the map |
| 21:12.23 | exitus | thx |
| 21:13.01 | Ahli | if he tells you that he can't change editor region, tell him to search "regions.xml" on mapster |
| 21:14.40 | exitus | thanks! |
| 21:14.41 | JademusSreg | RPS has an accurate description of HotS. Nice. |
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| 21:17.36 | Kueken | Jade: I still wonder: Did the guy actually contact you? Because yesterday he insisted you have to contact him |
| 21:21.22 | JademusSreg | I could not possibly express less interest than I am now. All I know is yuka said stuff about some person and music and that it should be in Photon Cycles, and I didn't care then, yet I hear said music person, presumably drawn here by yuka or such, comes by and I'm not here or whatever. It has nothing to do with me. |
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| 21:33.26 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 21:33.50 | Taintedwisp | i contacted some music guy to see if he wanted to create some stuff for evo-frenzy. no response ;/ |
| 21:34.07 | A1win | what a bastard |
| 21:34.38 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 21:34.49 | Taintedwisp | he hasnt been on since the day after I contacted him |
| 21:34.52 | Taintedwisp | that was a week ago |
| 21:35.19 | Taintedwisp | for now I have starcraft 1 music, which most people enjoy |
| 21:35.28 | Stewox | where can i read TOS/EULA for the Arcadde (custom maps on sc2 bnet) |
| 21:35.36 | JademusSreg | If I'm interested in using someone's work, I'll contact the person. I don't need people involving themselves presuming to speak on my goddamn behalf. |
| 21:35.42 | Taintedwisp | but I would love some custom Unique music, that has the sound of 90s Esque games such as, Alien 3, Starcraft BW, and mortal kombat |
| 21:35.52 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:36.29 | Taintedwisp | same here jademusSreg, though if someone knows someone who is VERY talented then just tell me, and ill check it out for myself :P |
| 21:36.41 | JademusSreg | Will do. |
| 21:37.15 | Taintedwisp | im not really looking for music, but if someone talented is willing to do it then why not :) long as its good |
| 21:37.21 | Stewox | anyone? |
| 21:37.41 | Taintedwisp | the editor ToS? |
| 21:37.48 | Taintedwisp | why what do you need to know stewox? |
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| 21:37.58 | Stewox | what stuff can i use in maps |
| 21:38.00 | Stewox | i need to know |
| 21:38.09 | Taintedwisp | http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/sc2eula.html |
| 21:38.21 | Taintedwisp | I could probably tell you if you have nay questions Stewox |
| 21:38.39 | Stewox | is that part of SC2 EULA or separate ? |
| 21:38.41 | Taintedwisp | I've read it 2-3 times |
| 21:38.45 | Taintedwisp | Yeah its just a part of it |
| 21:39.50 | Taintedwisp | thats part of it |
| 21:39.57 | Taintedwisp | The rest is through battle.net post |
| 21:40.06 | Taintedwisp | on the forums |
| 21:40.08 | Stewox | do they monitor against copyright or they investigate on report, i would to like to use some copyrighted music but i will not since those will never allow, but for something else it's clearly fair use so it, and that's on the same side so he won't report it |
| 21:40.34 | Taintedwisp | Stewox they have never banned anyone for using copyrighted material |
| 21:40.37 | Stewox | so if the copyright holder allows is it ok ? |
| 21:40.45 | Taintedwisp | They will just ask you to remove it if it becomes featured |
| 21:40.58 | Taintedwisp | yeah but you should always get written permission |
| 21:40.59 | Stewox | okay ... uh featured |
| 21:41.02 | Taintedwisp | an email counts |
| 21:41.20 | Stewox | well im not going too much deep into that |
| 21:41.23 | Taintedwisp | if you have written permission then the email must include commerical access |
| 21:41.39 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.39 | Taintedwisp | because when they feature a map they are technically selling it |
| 21:41.45 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.06 | Taintedwisp | like I said if its not to become featured, then dont worry about it |
| 21:42.07 | Stewox | just about the fair use stuff .. sound clips ... etc ? |
| 21:42.24 | Stewox | how can i flag it to not be featured ? |
| 21:42.25 | Taintedwisp | Law states you can use up to 5 seconds of anything, so I wouldnt worry about it |
| 21:42.31 | Taintedwisp | if your in the USA |
| 21:42.48 | Stewox | but, will it get on the top of popularity (for example) even if it's not featured ? |
| 21:42.52 | Taintedwisp | They will ask you in an email or phone call if you want it to be featured if they decide to feature it |
| 21:42.57 | Stewox | EU |
| 21:43.10 | Taintedwisp | Then you wouldhave to check your own countries laws on copyright times |
| 21:43.25 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.34 | Taintedwisp | then email |
| 21:43.53 | Taintedwisp | Theres really nothing to worry about |
| 21:44.12 | Taintedwisp | they will ask you to remove it, and at most they will remove the map themseleves and you will hav eto remove copyrighted crap and re-upload |
| 21:44.21 | Taintedwisp | but they have never removed a map for copyright |
| 21:44.40 | JademusSreg | Protect Bob. |
| 21:44.54 | JademusSreg | Got featured pre-Arcade. |
| 21:44.54 | Taintedwisp | bitchslaps Bob |
| 21:45.09 | Stewox | okay |
| 21:49.05 | Stewox | eulalyzer found just a lot of third party notices (hacks programs) and Without Notice stuff |
| 21:52.20 | Stewox | taintedwisp |
| 21:52.33 | Stewox | this is the correct link http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/legal/acceptable-use.html |
| 21:52.34 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 21:52.45 | Taintedwisp | ahh gotcha |
| 21:52.59 | Stewox | i knew it wasn't that easy |
| 21:53.05 | Stewox | too good to be true |
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| 21:53.48 | Taintedwisp | Still there wont be any problems if you do. you just will never get featured without removing it |
| 22:05.09 | Stewox | aha ok |
| 22:07.12 | Cardanis | Without removing what? |
| 22:16.42 | Stewox | taintedwisp the wording is that only blizzard games are allowed for recreation |
| 22:17.08 | Stewox | so, total conversions like C&C may are not allowed ? |
| 22:17.19 | Taintedwisp | again, they wont say shit |
| 22:17.20 | Stewox | im not making a C&C map (yet) just an example |
| 22:17.38 | Taintedwisp | They even featured a map that was a near exact replication of a dreamcast game |
| 22:17.49 | Stewox | okay |
| 22:17.58 | Stewox | they clearly aren't bullies it seems |
| 22:18.45 | Stewox | im now more worried about the controversial aspect than copyright lol |
| 22:21.24 | Cardanis | what're you working on? |
| 22:22.10 | Cardanis | I'm actually working on a map using the Warhammer 40k universe, so knowing their stance on things like this would be nice |
| 22:34.22 | Stewox | taintedwisp |
| 22:34.30 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:34.31 | Stewox | what about use of real-life personality |
| 22:34.49 | Stewox | picture, name, etc |
| 22:34.52 | Taintedwisp | i dunno, as long as its a parody you should be fine |
| 22:34.56 | Taintedwisp | I wouldnyt use a picture. |
| 22:35.16 | Stewox | not a parody, partially fictional though |
| 22:42.45 | Stewox | well |
| 22:43.19 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:43.43 | Stewox | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:59.40 | InAugenhoehlen | A1win, you must agree that the translative case is most interesting. |
| 23:00.06 | InAugenhoehlen | I also think the essive I believe it's called is funny |
| 23:00.11 | InAugenhoehlen | the -nä one. |
| 23:00.33 | InAugenhoehlen | As in, how you can also use it like 'lapsena mä tykkäsin pelata' |
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| 23:49.33 | Batomys | Hello |
| 23:50.02 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 23:50.08 | Batomys | I'm trying to modify the Medic-Heal ability to allow cast on uncommandable units, I set them to 'Allowed' in the cast filters but it still says it is not allowed in-game |
| 23:50.16 | Batomys | Anyone know another place to look? |
| 23:52.36 | JademusSreg | Autocast filters, target filters |
| 23:56.15 | Batomys | Set both of those to allowed for Uncommandable |
| 23:56.37 | Batomys | But when I try to cast the ability on an uncommandable unit in-game it returns an error |
| 23:56.51 | Batomys | Is there somewhere else it may be filtering besides those two spots? |
| 23:59.34 | JademusSreg | The unit is untargetable. |
| 23:59.38 | JademusSreg | That's the issue. |
