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| 00:00.42 | Taintedwisp | Thanks eagles works perfectly |
| 00:00.43 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 00:05.04 | Eagles | are local trigger variables actually initialized before the trigger runs? |
| 00:05.48 | Kueken | in gui, they are initialized within the trigger, before any action runs |
| 00:06.03 | Kueken | in galaxy script, you would need to manually initialize them |
| 00:08.04 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: I hope you understand that one day someone may taint you for real |
| 00:09.36 | Taintedwisp | Great i have a real problem -_- |
| 00:09.55 | Taintedwisp | I thought i had it worked :( |
| 00:10.01 | Taintedwisp | it just broke an all new way |
| 00:10.32 | Eagles | welcome to the world of trigger editing |
| 00:10.58 | Taintedwisp | i miss data :( |
| 00:11.04 | Taintedwisp | DATA COME BACK!!! |
| 00:11.12 | Eagles | go make my data.. ill go make your triggers.. :P |
| 00:11.20 | Taintedwisp | now its giving random amounts. |
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| 00:11.42 | Taintedwisp | so 1 scv kill is now giving like 5... |
| 00:11.46 | Taintedwisp | its set to only give 2... |
| 00:12.43 | Eagles | what i meant was Kueken, do variables initialize even if conditions aren't met? |
| 00:12.52 | Kueken | yes |
| 00:13.04 | Kueken | conditions in SC2 are part of the actions internally |
| 00:13.04 | Eagles | that explains everything! |
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| 00:13.19 | Kueken | unlike in WC3 where they were entirely separate functions |
| 00:13.35 | Taintedwisp | I miss data more and more... |
| 00:14.19 | Kueken | there is basically no difference between using a condition or an if/then/else statement in the actions |
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| 00:16.14 | Eagles | http://puu.sh/2vXBx/19fa3128cd |
| 00:17.05 | Eagles | Has anyone seen something so redundant? |
| 00:17.27 | Kueken | yes |
| 00:17.34 | Kueken | call DoNothing(); |
| 00:17.36 | Claymuffin | Is there any simple way to make a player owned building a resource drop off for everybody? |
| 00:17.38 | Kueken | in WC3 |
| 00:17.44 | Taintedwisp | I dont understand eagles :P |
| 00:18.04 | Claymuffin | Like a owned command center at which every player can drop resource to earn them? |
| 00:18.40 | Kueken | not sure if you can, but you could always stack buildings for a couple of players onto each other |
| 00:19.07 | Taintedwisp | yes claymuffin |
| 00:19.09 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 00:19.35 | Taintedwisp | You can create the item with a behavior on the Command center, then apply a behavior to the created unit that will switch it. |
| 00:20.44 | Eagles | Taintedwisp I was mocking the fact that I had to set the variables with actions when I could have set it when the variables were initalized if it wasn't for the fact that variables aren't created if conditions are met |
| 00:24.16 | Claymuffin | not sure I understand well what you propose taintedwisp |
| 00:24.43 | Claymuffin | how will another player scv recognize my command center as a valid resource drop off point? |
| 00:26.18 | Taintedwisp | ohhh dropoff |
| 00:26.19 | Taintedwisp | I misred |
| 00:26.25 | Taintedwisp | you could use a... |
| 00:26.29 | Taintedwisp | and iforgot the word for it |
| 00:26.41 | Taintedwisp | anyways theres an ability where it will switch to your units building if it comes close to it |
| 00:27.03 | Eagles | disco colored command center? |
| 00:27.05 | Eagles | \o/ |
| 00:27.09 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:27.27 | Taintedwisp | or you could trigger it, or do a plethora of things :)) |
| 00:27.59 | Eagles | how do you trigger an scv to turn resources into a command center which doesn't belong to the player? |
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| 00:29.23 | Taintedwisp | hmmm |
| 00:29.30 | Taintedwisp | OH I KNOW |
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| 00:30.06 | Taintedwisp | WHen the unit collects resources transfer ownership to play 0, so it will be carrying the resources back to the nuetral base |
| 00:30.07 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:30.20 | Taintedwisp | when it drops them off, it can switch back to its original player |
| 00:30.32 | Taintedwisp | you could actually use a behavior that switches it for ease of use |
| 00:30.33 | Eagles | aka more rainbow coloring? lol |
| 00:33.42 | Taintedwisp | uhh no? |
| 00:33.50 | Enexy | yes |
| 00:34.03 | Taintedwisp | You can surpress the coloring of a unit no problem... |
| 00:34.32 | Taintedwisp | just like you can use player colors that dont exist |
| 00:34.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:34.40 | Taintedwisp | that are not default i mean |
| 00:35.10 | Taintedwisp | The only thing is units wont auto attack the units, unless you did some tricky behavior stuff to force enemy units to attack it |
| 00:35.18 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 00:35.24 | Taintedwisp | I said it would work not that it was efficient |
| 00:35.50 | Eagles | Trigger way: Event: Harvesting is done | order scv move to command center + Run Effect which creates the +5 on Command Center + order scv to harvest |
| 00:35.55 | JademusSreg | Zoooop. |
| 00:36.27 | Taintedwisp | Jademus you need to lean to love you |
| 00:38.08 | JademusSreg | I have trouble parsing that. |
| 00:38.29 | Eagles | he has to lean against the wall to love you |
| 00:38.39 | Eagles | if the condition is not met, no love. |
| 00:39.01 | Eagles | so you just need a wall and all should be alright |
| 00:39.07 | JademusSreg | That is no clearer that the previous statement. |
| 00:39.27 | Eagles | what if there's no wall? |
| 00:39.27 | Taintedwisp | builds wall |
| 00:39.47 | Eagles | tainted.. you don't have the required resources to do that |
| 00:42.12 | Taintedwisp | builds a wall out of Eagles resources |
| 00:45.09 | Kueken | builds a wall out of Eagles |
| 00:45.52 | Eagles | sc2mapster.. the map where custom resource are made of Eagles.. |
| 00:46.10 | JademusSreg | Grill-cooked turkey burger enriched with powder-fine grits, paprika, some cumen, white pepper, ground garlic, fried onion, fresh minced sweet onion, crumbled parmesean, grated swiss, an outer layer of sour cream, and provolone on bread baked by cosmic honey badgers. |
| 00:48.02 | Kueken | great |
| 00:48.09 | Kueken | now you made me hungry |
| 00:48.09 | JademusSreg | Weapons-grade burger. |
| 00:48.48 | JademusSreg | Iran's facilities for creating this burger have already been hacked. That's how good this is. |
| 00:48.51 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 00:51.37 | Reaperguyver | welcome back |
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| 00:53.17 | Reaperguyver | I finally got a copy of it up on mapster here's the link if you still wanna look at it. http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/echoes-war/ |
| 00:56.14 | Eagles | hey JademusSreg are you working on any map now? I just saw you were the creator of Photon Cycles, impressive! |
| 01:07.05 | JademusSreg | Reap, I took a look at the map via MPQ Editor. |
| 01:07.26 | JademusSreg | The only thing that makes sense is a problem with the Attributes file. |
| 01:08.06 | JademusSreg | I've not taken the time to reverse the ids, but the disparity in values seems very wrong. |
| 01:08.46 | JademusSreg | Anyone care to lend me a map with game variants configured I may use as a reference? =D |
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| 01:09.48 | JademusSreg | But yeah, since Attributes file controls lobby shit, it makes sense that the file would be responsible, given it occurs for entering the lobby. |
| 01:12.05 | JademusSreg | Eag, I work on lots of stuff, haha. I'm lending a hand on various projects while I acquaint myself with features added from 1.5 onward, entertaining various prototype designs. |
| 01:12.27 | Eagles | ok |
| 01:12.35 | Stewox | hey guys |
| 01:12.48 | Stewox | what's the proper way to extract textures from sc2 mpq |
| 01:13.00 | JademusSreg | There are several ways. |
| 01:13.02 | Stewox | i mean, in terms of finding where in editor the file is and stuff like that |
| 01:13.15 | Stewox | so i don't spend searching MPQ for hours |
| 01:13.21 | JademusSreg | What kind of volume are ya talking, Stew? |
| 01:13.27 | Stewox | a few only |
| 01:13.31 | Stewox | 20 |
| 01:13.41 | JademusSreg | Pretty simple, then. |
| 01:13.44 | Stewox | all terran buildings icons the "BUILD" icons |
| 01:13.53 | JademusSreg | Super easy. |
| 01:13.54 | Stewox | in the SCV Train ability |
| 01:14.06 | Stewox | plus another one, Orbital Strike |
| 01:14.28 | Stewox | so I need the nvidia DDS converter right ? |
| 01:15.03 | JademusSreg | Alt `, which opens the Console, enter command browse, which opens the Asset Browser for all files. |
| 01:15.07 | Stewox | ah nah that's a plughin |
| 01:15.10 | Stewox | nvm |
| 01:15.15 | JademusSreg | The Search filter is fast in list mode. |
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| 01:15.37 | Stewox | i don't know what is the ' |
| 01:15.42 | JademusSreg | Tilde. |
| 01:15.44 | JademusSreg | Grave, |
| 01:15.49 | JademusSreg | ` ~ |
| 01:15.55 | Stewox | nah |
| 01:15.57 | JademusSreg | Tildegrave, har har. |
| 01:16.04 | Stewox | not it's not that |
| 01:16.21 | Stewox | i have qwertz |
| 01:16.40 | Stewox | ~ is on 1 |
| 01:16.50 | Stewox | ' is on ? |
| 01:16.57 | Stewox | ? is after 0 |
| 01:17.03 | Stewox | ¸¸¸¸¸¸ |
| 01:17.07 | Stewox | aha so that's it |
| 01:17.12 | Stewox | ¸¸ |
| 01:18.31 | Stewox | i know the button allright |
| 01:18.35 | Stewox | it's the console button |
| 01:19.59 | Stewox | ¸don't worry yademus i have SC2 installed on SSD :D |
| 01:20.31 | Stewox | so everying is lightning fast man ... |
| 01:20.46 | Stewox | editor is main reason i put it on here |
| 01:21.58 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Eag, not to appear terse, but I'm not much for discussing my ideas. Not that I'm the sort to fear "idea theft" (as though that were a thing). Rather, (1) people aren't interested in one another's "cool ideas for a thing", (2) I value implementation over immaterial talk of grandiose designs, (3) and the public rarely provides any meaningful, useful feedback. |
| 01:22.21 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:22.23 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 01:22.48 | Taintedwisp | JADEMUS GIMME 5 DORRA |
| 01:22.50 | Stewox | facepalm |
| 01:23.06 | Stewox | I HAVE JUST FIGURED OUT WHY DO THEY HAVE ICONS ALL BLACK WHITE |
| 01:23.06 | Taintedwisp | YOU GIVE ME 10 DORRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAA NOW!!!! |
| 01:23.12 | Taintedwisp | 15? |
| 01:23.16 | Stewox | it's been 3 YEARS |
| 01:23.22 | Taintedwisp | okay I will accept 20 bu tnot a penny more |
| 01:23.22 | Eagles | hehe |
| 01:23.27 | Taintedwisp | fine.... 25. |
| 01:23.46 | Taintedwisp | wow stewox... |
| 01:23.47 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:23.57 | Taintedwisp | they are white because they use race tint for all of those |
| 01:23.58 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 01:24.12 | Stewox | so they can use Tint by Race color Enabled for PASSIVE button icons |
| 01:24.21 | Stewox | yes, you beated me to it |
| 01:24.50 | Stewox | because i was doing with passive stuff before today, didn't figured it out until the end of the day |
| 01:25.46 | Stewox | and the proper DDS converter that will work with SC2 ? |
| 01:28.13 | Taintedwisp | the nvidea program does |
| 01:28.18 | Taintedwisp | extension i mean |
| 01:28.21 | Taintedwisp | plug in |
| 01:28.23 | Taintedwisp | whatever it is!!! |
| 01:28.30 | Stewox | well i don't have photoshop installed |
| 01:28.39 | Stewox | yet |
| 01:28.43 | Taintedwisp | Gimp also uses it |
| 01:28.49 | Taintedwisp | but gimps is built in |
| 01:28.56 | Stewox | yeah |
| 01:28.58 | Eagles | For what do you need a DDS converter? |
| 01:29.04 | Stewox | so i'll went with that |
| 01:29.07 | Stewox | for now |
| 01:31.19 | Stewox | for textures |
| 01:31.41 | Stewox | DDS is proably what 60% of gamiing industry uses |
| 01:31.46 | Stewox | by the way ;) |
| 01:32.08 | Eagles | to edit an exported model? |
| 01:32.43 | Stewox | i need some button icons i want and i can't find and ill make tham, and it's simple edit so i don't need to instal photoshp for it |
| 01:32.52 | Stewox | DDS is a TEXTURE IMAGE |
| 01:33.01 | Stewox | m3 is model |
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| 01:33.46 | Claymuffin | Strange data stuff happening |
| 01:33.51 | Eagles | yep i know Stewox |
| 01:34.12 | Claymuffin | Anybody know why every time I morph one of my custom units it make me pay it'S building cost |
| 01:34.24 | Claymuffin | and when i morph it back, it give me back the exacte same build cost |
| 01:34.59 | Claymuffin | I made a command center and the lift off ability cost me the build cost, landing give me back the exact same amount |
| 01:35.02 | Claymuffin | it'S even written |
| 01:35.07 | Claymuffin | on the ability |
| 01:35.24 | Claymuffin | I have no idea in hell why it does that. I searched all units and abilities |
| 01:35.25 | Stewox | taintedwisp |
| 01:35.31 | Taintedwisp | Stewox |
| 01:35.34 | Stewox | do i need to select any options |
| 01:35.38 | Stewox | in installation of gimp |
| 01:35.45 | Taintedwisp | dunno never used gimp |
| 01:35.47 | Stewox | there is a big list if you know btw to save me some time |
| 01:35.51 | Taintedwisp | I use photoshop cs5 portable |
| 01:36.20 | Stewox | is there a name for DDS |
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| 01:36.27 | Stewox | i have here file associations |
| 01:36.31 | Stewox | can't find DDS |
| 01:36.34 | Eagles | dds isn't built into gimp, it's a plugin ;) |
| 01:36.58 | Taintedwisp | stewox gimme 2-3 minutes |
| 01:37.08 | Stewox | okay i'll find what i can |
| 01:37.18 | Taintedwisp | just gimme a minute |
| 01:37.24 | Stewox | okay file assciation is not big deal anyways |
| 01:37.58 | Stewox | okay it's called DirectDraw Surface |
| 01:38.06 | Taintedwisp | nvm |
| 01:38.11 | Taintedwisp | do what you need to do |
| 01:38.12 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:38.28 | Taintedwisp | I was going to put my photoshop in a rar, but.... its gunna take 30 minutes to upload to dropbox |
| 01:38.40 | Stewox | oh ... |
| 01:38.46 | Taintedwisp | yeah nvm though |
| 01:38.54 | Stewox | well, thanks for help |
| 01:38.56 | Taintedwisp | I dont want to keep something like that uploaded for too long |
| 01:39.21 | Stewox | also it doesn't mean i would be successful with this heh |
| 01:39.50 | JademusSreg | Back/ |
| 01:41.19 | Claymuffin | Hey Jade |
| 01:42.19 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 01:43.35 | Claymuffin | Can you check my question written at 21:33 to 21:35 ? |
| 01:44.00 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the xml? |
| 01:44.10 | Claymuffin | i'm kinda trying to figure out why it does this... for a while now... |
| 01:44.52 | JademusSreg | I think I know what the issue is, but I've not encountered this issue in, like, 2 years. |
| 01:44.54 | Claymuffin | The thing is, which xml... Would the error be in the build ability or the unit build itself? Or even morph ability? |
| 01:45.10 | JademusSreg | Paste em all. =D |
| 01:45.11 | Claymuffin | There is a cost for every morph ability i create, the exact same cost as the building cost |
| 01:45.29 | Claymuffin | let me make one test and I'm on it |
| 01:47.17 | Claymuffin | ok pasting |
| 01:48.44 | Claymuffin | do you actually work in the editor directly in xml? |
| 01:49.32 | JademusSreg | When I need to, which is frequently. |
| 01:49.42 | Claymuffin | here goes the building unit |
| 01:49.45 | Claymuffin | http://pastebin.com/buK4Q9Yi |
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| 01:50.20 | JademusSreg | takes a moment to block javascript for that site. |
| 01:51.56 | Claymuffin | here is the build ability |
| 01:51.57 | Claymuffin | http://pastebin.com/ryt9F5JS |
| 01:53.24 | Claymuffin | here is the morph |
| 01:53.25 | Claymuffin | http://pastebin.com/MJiru2iA |
| 01:53.31 | JademusSreg | Just to be clear, describe how it should behave, and how it is behaving instead. |
| 01:53.51 | Claymuffin | I started to browse in xml, I start to see why it so damn convenient |
| 01:54.08 | Claymuffin | It's just like a regular command center |
| 01:54.35 | Claymuffin | but the liftoff ability cost 200 mineral, which is the excat same cost as the building build cost |
| 01:54.55 | Claymuffin | and when I land the building, it refund me the exact same cost as the building build cost |
| 01:54.59 | Claymuffin | it should no do that |
| 01:55.16 | Claymuffin | there is a cost and refund linked to the morph ability and I don't know why |
| 01:55.34 | Claymuffin | I pay 200 to lift off and I get -200 for landing |
| 01:55.39 | Claymuffin | why is that so? |
| 01:55.57 | Claymuffin | it should just behave like a regular lift and land, free, not with a cost linked to it |
| 01:56.02 | Claymuffin | so thats about it |
| 01:57.16 | JademusSreg | Funny/ |
| 01:57.42 | JademusSreg | The unit token for the ability doesn't match the unit id you linked. |
| 01:57.57 | JademusSreg | Neither of them. |
| 01:58.25 | Claymuffin | ill correct that, must be related in some way |
| 01:58.42 | Claymuffin | got to go, but i'll give you some feed back about it later if your still connected |
| 01:59.05 | JademusSreg | I leave the client running, either way. |
| 02:02.52 | Claymuffin | Well... All abilities work well aside from that strange cost and refund |
| 02:02.57 | Claymuffin | hum |
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| 02:03.41 | JademusSreg | You see the Morph ability, yeah? The token. |
| 02:04.08 | JademusSreg | The token value has been set to, or rather was not changed when you duplicated the BiodomeCommandCenter. |
| 02:04.46 | JademusSreg | *duplicated/copied |
| 02:11.25 | Stewox | taintedwisp i know there are some specific DDS parameters for sc2 textures to work |
| 02:11.42 | Stewox | also these are 2010 1.0 files from WOL, to be specific |
| 02:13.31 | JademusSreg | DXT3, ARGB, 8bpp, explicit alpha, no MIP maps, 2D Texture |
| 02:13.57 | JademusSreg | Reliable for UI textures. |
| 02:14.11 | Stewox | yes i have button textures |
| 02:14.18 | Stewox | saving or loading ? |
| 02:14.24 | Stewox | on Load it asks me for 3 things |
| 02:14.44 | Stewox | Automatically Decode Ycog AExt |
| 02:14.48 | Stewox | and Load mip maps |
| 02:14.57 | JademusSreg | Those are the parameters I use for saving to dds. |
| 02:15.09 | JademusSreg | Er, there are no mip maps, so nope. |
| 02:15.16 | Stewox | okay |
| 02:15.24 | JademusSreg | And what application are you using? |
| 02:15.54 | Stewox | GIMP 2.8 |
| 02:16.03 | Stewox | DDS plugin |
| 02:16.27 | Stewox | don't have photoshop yet |
| 02:17.04 | JademusSreg | If you're using GIMP for DDS, that's beyond my knowledge. |
| 02:17.09 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 02:18.15 | Stewox | i think it's more latest than nvidia plugin for photoshop |
| 02:18.22 | Stewox | Q4 2012 |
| 02:19.46 | Stewox | what is Interpolation for image scaling, does it improve quality ? |
| 02:19.51 | Stewox | cubic, linear, none |
| 02:20.38 | Stewox | jademussreg |
| 02:20.56 | Stewox | sorry for bothering im waiting to hit Save :) |
| 02:21.31 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:22.06 | JademusSreg | I'll need to check my profile interpolation settings. |
| 02:24.08 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:24.12 | Stewox | tnx, also wikipedia says cubic or bicubis and Lancoz or Sinc is better than linear so i guess one of those |
| 02:24.25 | Taintedwisp | no i was just going to send the trail version err ummm... |
| 02:24.36 | Taintedwisp | fuck you purl |
| 02:24.37 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 02:25.07 | Taintedwisp | also what do you mean by preface the mesages? |
| 02:25.16 | JademusSreg | Well, yeah. I don't see my version of the plugin asking about interpolation, so I wonder if perhaps you are inadvertedly saving to a much lower bpp. |
| 02:25.43 | JademusSreg | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.45 | Stewox | no im not doing anything yet |
| 02:25.49 | Stewox | im just there resizing the image |
| 02:25.54 | JademusSreg | Ahhh. |
| 02:26.00 | JademusSreg | I misunderstood. |
| 02:26.59 | JademusSreg | Thought you meant you had this option while saving., |
| 02:27.11 | Stewox | i need to put another DDS from sc2 to the 20 or so images for buttons, i need to make the 2nd image smaller so it's kind of a Veterancy sign or something |
| 02:27.39 | Stewox | sorry if i didn't made that clear before |
| 02:27.55 | JademusSreg | Naw, I probably skimmed it. |
| 02:28.31 | Stewox | I asked because i was never looking into it |
| 02:28.40 | Stewox | i was aware but not paying too much attention |
| 02:28.49 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.03 | Popsicle | ~seen Taintedwisp |
| 02:29.07 | purl | taintedwisp <4bb55b32@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.91.50> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 18s ago, saying: ' gotcha and that will stop that hoe bag from recording my messages?'. |
| 02:29.15 | Popsicle | didnt work :( |
| 02:29.28 | JademusSreg | I could explain em, but in this case, fuckit, Wikipedia would serve better. |
| 02:29.30 | Stewox | okay i'll pick one of the bottom ones, good to know linear is NOT the way |
| 02:29.45 | JademusSreg | Although I have a neat way to visualize the difference. |
| 02:29.45 | Stewox | actually i have to tell you stay away from LINEAR |
| 02:30.12 | Stewox | linear will make button images look crappy since it's not good at small resolutions |
| 02:30.27 | Stewox | keep that in mind next time |
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| 02:34.43 | Stewox | jademussreg, lancoz is probably the pick http://www.avsforum.com/t/460922/lanczos-vs-bicubic-comparison , bicubic is more blurry |
| 02:36.17 | JademusSreg | Damn. I'll need to take another screenshot. |
| 02:36.53 | Stewox | also, is it normal to have no background ? |
| 02:36.59 | Stewox | when editing dds |
| 02:37.10 | JademusSreg | Which application? |
| 02:38.43 | Stewox | gimp |
| 02:38.46 | Stewox | ofcourse |
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| 02:39.04 | JademusSreg | Ah, making sure. Again, I've no experience with that application. |
| 02:39.06 | Stewox | the image dds is fine, for example armory teran |
| 02:39.35 | Stewox | but around the image it's not black, it's the default app background checker board |
| 02:39.52 | Stewox | inside the borders of the image |
| 02:40.11 | Stewox | another thing, okay to use Opacity ? |
| 02:40.20 | Stewox | alpha ... |
| 02:40.49 | JademusSreg | Ah, no big deal. That transparent portion is common. |
| 02:41.23 | JademusSreg | And probably shouldn't mess with the alpha unless you're using it for another purpose. |
| 02:42.26 | JademusSreg | I do recall someone mentioned that gimp doesn't have a separate alpha layer or need it or something, which is fine for this purpose. The transparency/opacity is the alpha channel, apparently. |
| 02:42.56 | Ahli | finally game of thrones out... only 1.8gig o0 |
| 02:43.09 | JademusSreg | Of course, that's doable in photoshop as well with the spec implicit alpha. |
| 02:44.01 | JademusSreg | It's a shame HBO and its ilk are still stranded in a rapidly antiquating past. |
| 02:46.03 | JademusSreg | In the words of Gabe Newell, it's a service problem. Provide a better service than the illicit channels and it mitigates the problem. =D |
| 02:49.18 | Stewox | i cant seem to find opacity option need ot search web |
| 02:53.55 | Ahli | actor message? |
| 02:54.05 | Ahli | Set Opacity |
| 02:57.26 | Stewox | bah it was in front of my nose |
| 02:57.34 | Stewox | nah ahli talking about gimp |
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| 03:02.32 | Claymuffin | Sixen is moving! |
| 03:02.39 | Claymuffin | Might be the first time I see this |
| 03:02.40 | Claymuffin | evar |
| 03:03.04 | Reaperguyver | Hello |
| 03:03.19 | Claymuffin | hey hi! |
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| 03:06.05 | Claymuffin | Hey Jade, i check my units abilities tokens, they all seem fine, I don't know why you said they weren't properly linked |
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| 03:15.44 | Stewox | jademussreg when i select DXT3 the FORMAT (ARGB) is selected automatically and greyed out and I cannot see which one it picked |
| 03:16.52 | Stewox | there is no setting for explicit alpha, 8bpp, 2D texture .... |
| 03:17.04 | Stewox | i think it's taking those settings from the source |
| 03:17.18 | Stewox | there is a setting for Dithering |
| 03:17.59 | Stewox | Color Selection: Distance, Luminance, Inset Bounding Box |
| 03:18.27 | Stewox | maybe this has something to do with background |
| 03:19.40 | Stewox | well i made it now with defaults and no dithering, and will test |
| 03:21.42 | Stewox | allright preview works in editor |
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| 03:46.45 | Popsicle | lol |
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| 03:53.23 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 03:55.28 | RooKz | I'm gonna head afk, see you guys in 8-12 hours |
| 03:58.17 | JademusSreg | From the computer lab? =D |
| 03:58.33 | JademusSreg | Or library? Love libraries. |
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| 04:22.25 | Claymuffin | Hey Jade, you there? |
| 04:22.42 | Stewox | GUYS |
| 04:22.47 | Stewox | i got hint in editor |
| 04:23.02 | Stewox | You are about to copy object referenced in Actor Data |
| 04:23.11 | Stewox | what's this ? |
| 04:23.44 | Stewox | Unless you modify Actor Data ... .... read documentation ...etc |
| 04:23.53 | Stewox | the object has no actors btw |
| 04:27.50 | Claymuffin | If anybody want to give a hand, I've got a strange problem with the automated refinery |
| 04:27.59 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 04:28.06 | Claymuffin | It just won't work at all |
| 04:28.07 | Claymuffin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/24092-custom-resource-errors/#p8 |
| 04:28.14 | Claymuffin | here someone had the same EXACT problem |
| 04:28.20 | JademusSreg | Terrazine? |
| 04:28.21 | Claymuffin | i,m in the same exact situation has him |
| 04:28.28 | Claymuffin | yes |
| 04:28.35 | Claymuffin | he got no answer in the end |
| 04:28.37 | JademusSreg | Game data tab. |
| 04:29.09 | JademusSreg | HotS defaults to converting Terrazine to Minerals and Vespene. |
| 04:29.30 | JademusSreg | You can change that from the Gameplay Data. |
| 04:29.31 | Claymuffin | thats already fixed |
| 04:29.47 | Claymuffin | the problem is that the building wont harvest at all |
| 04:29.51 | Claymuffin | it'S not actor related |
| 04:29.54 | Claymuffin | it wont pump |
| 04:30.18 | JademusSreg | [sexual innuendo] |
| 04:30.29 | Claymuffin | I removed the requirement that make it need a command center |
| 04:30.30 | Claymuffin | haha |
| 04:30.32 | JademusSreg | Does vespene increase? |
| 04:30.35 | Claymuffin | nope |
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| 04:31.17 | Claymuffin | I've been on this for a while now |
| 04:31.38 | JademusSreg | <BuiltOn value="ProtossVespeneGeyser"/> |
| 04:31.49 | Claymuffin | I even made regular vespene geiser hold terrazine instaed of gas |
| 04:32.31 | Claymuffin | FieldAutomated Gas Refinery Behavior: Built On +(Vespene Geyser|Vespene Geyser (Space Platform)|Rich Vespene Geyser|TempleGeyser (Unknown)|Vespene Geyser) |
| 04:32.49 | Claymuffin | should be fine? Or maybe i don,t follow you on that last sentence |
| 04:32.53 | JademusSreg | I clearly don't havbe enough data, and I do so loath to guess. =D |
| 04:33.02 | Claymuffin | :) |
| 04:33.11 | JademusSreg | By which I mean I don't have enough data relevant to the issue. |
| 04:33.43 | Claymuffin | Hum |
| 04:34.06 | Claymuffin | If your up for a map check tell me, I'll toss it over |
| 04:34.23 | JademusSreg | For any given problem, the possible number of failures amounts the sum of the parts. |
| 04:34.29 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
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| 05:00.12 | Stewox | dipshit editor |
| 05:00.16 | Stewox | crash on copy |
| 05:00.21 | Stewox | fucking data shit i hate it |
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| 05:32.05 | Ownage | how can I get the name of entered region to ui text message |
| 05:33.41 | JademusSreg | (You can't.) |
| 05:34.21 | Ownage | strange that you can call a region by converting string but not the inverse |
| 05:34.30 | Ownage | how about the region id? |
| 05:35.57 | Ownage | just wrote my first gui trigger which runs a native, trying to debug it a bit |
| 05:37.00 | Ownage | err action definition rather |
| 05:39.14 | JademusSreg | (I'll be back in a few minutes.) |
| 05:40.41 | Ownage | word |
| 05:44.42 | Ownage | I can work around it, was just curious |
| 05:50.54 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 05:51.35 | JademusSreg | Yeah, unfortunately the native API doesn't offer a RegionGetName. |
| 05:53.27 | JademusSreg | Although if you generate regions at runtime, you could store their references via DataTable API, and access them with a string key. |
| 05:58.06 | Ownage | ok thanks |
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| 06:01.53 | MoonEater | Hello? |
| 06:01.55 | MoonEater | JAde? |
| 06:02.01 | MoonEater | someone? |
| 06:02.09 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 06:02.28 | MoonEater | i have an issue finding somthing in data |
| 06:02.36 | MoonEater | i want to load air units into a medivac |
| 06:02.42 | MoonEater | i cant find the validators |
| 06:02.44 | JademusSreg | Sounds fun |
| 06:03.01 | MoonEater | can u direct me in the correct directs |
| 06:03.11 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 06:03.35 | MoonEater | i looked at the ability and theres no validators |
| 06:03.46 | MoonEater | or anything suggesting |
| 06:03.53 | MoonEater | no air units |
| 06:04.05 | MoonEater | when through it so im thinking its somplace else |
| 06:04.14 | MoonEater | dont have an idea where |
| 06:04.26 | JademusSreg | Set sizes for the air units? |
| 06:04.38 | JademusSreg | They need to be powers of 2, iirc. |
| 06:04.57 | MoonEater | size? |
| 06:04.58 | JademusSreg | Cargo size defaults to 0, which makes a unit invalid for cargo. |
| 06:05.09 | MoonEater | oh... |
| 06:05.14 | MoonEater | that makes sence |
| 06:05.14 | JademusSreg | Yeah, any unit you want to fit in a transport cargo needs a size. |
| 06:05.21 | MoonEater | thanks! |
| 06:05.25 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 06:08.06 | Ownage | JademusSreg pretty sure I've asked this before but it kills me so I'm going to make sure |
| 06:08.20 | Ownage | is there no way aside from loops, to check if a value is in an array? |
| 06:08.37 | Ownage | (to get its index number) |
| 06:08.57 | Ownage | and get* |
| 06:09.24 | JademusSreg | I understand the agony. Any sensible oop language would offer someArray.length |
| 06:09.43 | Ownage | ok so I'm not alone feeling this horror |
| 06:09.57 | JademusSreg | However. |
| 06:10.22 | Ownage | here's how you do it in python: x in myarray |
| 06:10.25 | Ownage | sighs |
| 06:10.48 | JademusSreg | If you're craving some O(1), you could make your data structures with DataTable API. |
| 06:12.19 | JademusSreg | It's 5 times slower than any other approach to get/set values, but that's not something one even notices until you've got more than 500k or so ops. |
| 06:12.20 | Ownage | I'll just make some nested loops and try to move the action somewhere where I don't see it often |
| 06:12.51 | JademusSreg | Actually, *200k |
| 06:13.20 | JademusSreg | Well, I've not run my speed tests since 1.5. |
| 06:13.32 | JademusSreg | Ought to do that. |
| 06:16.14 | JademusSreg | Better, though, is that since DataTables allow for dynamic memory allocation, it allows one to emulate classes. |
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| 06:19.15 | Ownage | ouch you can't return a list of integers either? |
| 06:19.28 | JademusSreg | Clarify. |
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| 06:19.39 | Ownage | I need to get the 3 indexes from an array which represent the path to a region |
| 06:20.09 | Ownage | if I can't return the three, I'll need to basically redo the iterations in three different functions |
| 06:20.24 | Ownage | or return them as string and parse them or some other silly malarkey |
| 06:21.05 | Ownage | my arrays are structured such that the index itself tells me information about what to do with the entering region |
| 06:21.29 | Ownage | for example if its found at region[1][2][3] I know where to route that unit |
| 06:21.30 | JademusSreg | Yeah, string-n-parse. Or DataTable. =D |
| 06:21.42 | Ownage | Malarkey, I say! |
| 06:22.27 | JademusSreg | You already know what a HashTable is; that puts you in a better position to use them than most of the community. |
| 06:23.23 | Ownage | are you talking about structs, or are you saying there are hashes in this thing |
| 06:23.35 | Ownage | can you item['string'] = value ? |
| 06:24.20 | Ownage | structs are alright but a bit cumbersom to use in the gui; nested records and so forth |
| 06:24.58 | JademusSreg | Gimme a minute to elaborate. |
| 06:25.00 | Reaperguyver | Jade do you still need a link to my map? |
| 06:25.17 | JademusSreg | Reap, I already looked at it, and wrote a response. |
| 06:25.21 | Ownage | you still on that hero map? |
| 06:25.25 | Reaperguyver | oh? Okay. |
| 06:25.32 | JademusSreg | Which I will do again once I finish explaining DataTables. |
| 06:25.51 | Ownage | you guys know I have made 2 maps and 1 kind of starter map in the last few weeks? learning is fun |
| 06:26.00 | Ownage | working on the next one now :) |
| 06:26.04 | Reaperguyver | sorry been busy playing defiance wasn't really reading the chat |
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| 06:27.00 | Ownage | I rebuilt nexus squadron strike with 128 unit types |
| 06:27.12 | Ownage | remade golem resurrection, my old sc1 map |
| 06:27.20 | JademusSreg | So DataTable API allows one to store most any value/reference type in either a global or thread-local table, hash is likely for speed. |
| 06:27.28 | Ownage | built a little random arena thing, and now this fun little roundabout tug |
| 06:28.07 | Ownage | I understood everything there except the last clause |
| 06:28.26 | JademusSreg | I'll give an example. |
| 06:28.37 | JademusSreg | DataTableSetRegion (bool global, string name, region val); |
| 06:29.13 | JademusSreg | If the bool global is true, the value for the string name is accessible from anywhere else in the environment. |
| 06:30.30 | JademusSreg | If false, the value for the string name is only accessible from the thread (which is to say trigger thread) in which it is instantiated. So however far down or up the scope it goes, the data is accessible from within the threadf. |
| 06:30.45 | JademusSreg | Which means no conflicts with other threads using the same name strings. |
| 06:30.47 | Ownage | I understand scoping |
| 06:30.57 | Ownage | I just didn't understand the last clause there |
| 06:31.03 | Ownage | "hash is likely for speed." |
| 06:31.27 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 06:34.57 | JademusSreg | HashTables, to put it in the crudest way possible, are quicky and dirty, and tend to have predefined ranges. You need a larger range to ensure the hashes don't conflict, and most implementations allow hashtables to grow from an initially defined range. The growth is taxing, but the fetch tends to be fairly quick. So fairly quick fetch plus occassional big bumps when restructuring. |
| 06:35.29 | Ownage | I had a fun learn today, making a gui action definition which just runs a native; did you know about this method? |
| 06:35.40 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 06:35.54 | Ownage | well why the hell didn't you tell me sooner, :) |
| 06:36.11 | Ownage | so to clarify you're saying there are hashes in this editor? |
| 06:36.15 | JademusSreg | This table stuff is a bit of a diversion and my time is limited, so I'll get back to the data tables. |
| 06:37.39 | JademusSreg | Anyway, suppose you set DataTableSetTimer(true,"FuckinTime",fuckinTimer); |
| 06:38.17 | JademusSreg | Then anywhere else from the code, that value will be accessible with the "FuckinTime" string key. |
| 06:38.41 | JademusSreg | DataTableGetTimer(true,"FuckinTime"); |
| 06:38.46 | Ownage | yeah, just sounds like a roundabout way to build hashes |
| 06:38.56 | Ownage | gracias, that may come in handy |
| 06:39.49 | JademusSreg | Point being you can emulate some basic oop functionality with enough code and patience, haha. |
| 06:39.55 | JademusSreg | Like a goddamn linked list. |
| 06:40.04 | JademusSreg | Reap, still at keyboard? |
| 06:42.13 | Reaperguyver | yeajh |
| 06:42.36 | JademusSreg | So, as I said before, I think I know the problem. |
| 06:42.43 | Reaperguyver | okay cool |
| 06:43.03 | JademusSreg | You say it always occurs when you attempt to join the lobby, yes> |
| 06:43.06 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 06:43.15 | Reaperguyver | yeah on battle.net |
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| 06:43.21 | Reaperguyver | so whenever I host alone or in a group |
| 06:44.57 | JademusSreg | And it always, always happens. |
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| 06:45.35 | JademusSreg | Without exception? No way to join? Must be clear here. |
| 06:47.04 | Reaperguyver | yeah |
| 06:49.07 | JademusSreg | Good. |
| 06:49.15 | JademusSreg | So this points to Game Variants. |
| 06:49.29 | JademusSreg | Specifically, the Attribute file in the MPQ. |
| 06:49.51 | JademusSreg | I need a reference, another map |
| 06:50.12 | JademusSreg | *map's Attribute file for comparison, but I see some weird values in their. |
| 06:50.18 | JademusSreg | *there |
| 06:51.09 | Reaperguyver | I tried resetting that but it didn't help = / |
| 06:51.28 | JademusSreg | I don't think it is enough to reset it. |
| 06:51.35 | JademusSreg | Go to the Import Manager. |
| 06:51.45 | JademusSreg | Make a backup, of course. |
| 06:53.24 | Reaperguyver | I have 3 back ups cause my computer likes to corrupt the map file lol |
| 06:53.33 | JademusSreg | Great. |
| 06:53.46 | JademusSreg | So from the Import Manager, toggle the flag Show Reserved Files. |
| 06:56.18 | JademusSreg | Following along so far? |
| 06:56.23 | Reaperguyver | k |
| 06:56.30 | Reaperguyver | yeah sorry had to start it up real quick |
| 06:56.31 | JademusSreg | Find Attributes file. |
| 06:56.54 | JademusSreg | It's a file with no file type extension. |
| 06:57.01 | Reaperguyver | k |
| 06:57.15 | JademusSreg | Remove File |
| 06:57.26 | JademusSreg | Delete, Ctrl R, whatever works. |
| 06:57.28 | JademusSreg | Save. |
| 06:57.48 | JademusSreg | Remake game variants from scratch, then send me the map. |
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| 06:58.41 | Reaperguyver | uummmm |
| 06:59.23 | Reaperguyver | I can't delete the attribautes folder? |
| 06:59.29 | Reaperguyver | file |
| 06:59.54 | JademusSreg | Alright. Send me the most recent cpy you've got, assuming mine isn't, and I'll remove it. |
| 07:00.02 | Reaperguyver | yours is |
| 07:00.03 | JademusSreg | Or you can with the MPQ Editor. |
| 07:00.05 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 07:00.07 | Reaperguyver | I haven't touch it |
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| 07:03.50 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 07:04.11 | JademusSreg | Also, did you lock races from the game variants and set player race in the player properties? |
| 07:05.29 | Reaperguyver | I didn't touch the races |
| 07:05.44 | Reaperguyver | races just effect how the interface looks and reacts anyhow. |
| 07:05.55 | Reaperguyver | so no to both |
| 07:06.34 | Eagles | damn, you guys still working with this? I've slept 5 hours! |
| 07:08.00 | Reaperguyver | I wasn't really ehre lol |
| 07:08.44 | JademusSreg | Just makimg certain before I delete them. |
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| 07:17.38 | Reaperguyver | brb real quick |
| 07:18.01 | JademusSreg | File deleted, map loads fine, so it should be safe to remake your game variants. |
| 07:24.42 | Reaperguyver | alright thanks. |
| 07:25.15 | JademusSreg | I'll send it imminently. |
| 07:26.06 | JademusSreg | brb/l |
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| 07:33.00 | Reaperguyver | It's still giving me that blank error. I'm about to fall asleep I'll be back tom. I appreciate your help. |
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| 10:14.57 | Eagles | As do we all :D |
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| 10:18.08 | Eagles | http://i.imgur.com/UyHDsaN.jpg Sexy |
| 10:24.47 | twodie | derp |
| 10:27.31 | twodie | http://snag.gy/lENKj.jpg |
| 10:27.52 | twodie | how to make weapon instant refire |
| 10:27.59 | twodie | with this persistant stuff. |
| 10:28.12 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 10:28.34 | twodie | now it stops attacking if already it was used for full duration of persistant |
| 10:29.55 | JademusSreg | Er, I'd need more data. |
| 10:30.18 | JademusSreg | Actually, I think I'll just start a support ticket system. |
| 10:30.30 | JademusSreg | With a list of required fields. |
| 10:30.55 | JademusSreg | Until then, I need the following. =D |
| 10:32.44 | JademusSreg | What should it be doing in simple terms? What is it not doing? What is your implementation? Provide all relevant data. |
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| 10:33.01 | twodie | well i order unit to attack, then ordering stop, and reordering the to attack and unit stands still, not even start the animation for attack, and its seems like he waiting for persisntant to finish before starting new attack |
| 10:44.08 | Zolden | twodie: if you have something like this, weapon start -> play anim attack, it will start playing attack anim before the persistent |
| 10:45.37 | Zolden | if anim doesn't play, you may miss omse anim clear on unit movement update.*.stop (jsut guess) |
| 10:46.21 | Zolden | oh, wait, i got it, you need to clear attack anim on weapon stop |
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| 10:47.59 | Zolden | if you think it's waiting for persistent, check flags, something interrupt related maybe. Or try to use periodic delay instead of initial delay |
| 10:48.00 | twodie | hmm, well noone understand me after all |
| 10:48.12 | twodie | animations work fine |
| 10:48.32 | Zolden | i understood you: you command to attack, then stop, then attack again, and it doesn't attack |
| 10:49.09 | Zolden | i didn't understand at start, but with every advice i understandad you better and bettr |
| 10:49.31 | Kueken | is the weapon not firing or just the animation not playing? |
| 10:49.32 | Zolden | so, the last 2 advices maybe related to your issue |
| 10:49.49 | Kueken | also, I wouldn't use the channeling and channeled flag together, try just channeled |
| 10:49.59 | twodie | kueken, both at the same time. they just stand andwait for new period |
| 10:50.56 | Kueken | so your weapon has a long period? |
| 10:51.15 | twodie | 2 game secs, other weapons have 5 |
| 10:51.41 | Zolden | twodie: maybe it's fine? time between attacks can't be less then weapon period + persistent delay, right? |
| 10:51.44 | Kueken | do you need a long period if the weapon uses a channeled persistent? |
| 10:51.54 | twodie | nope only channeled doesnt changed anything |
| 10:51.59 | Zolden | or weapon doesn't include persistent delay? |
| 10:52.15 | Kueken | the weapon shouldn't fire while you are channeling anyway |
| 10:53.54 | twodie | well persistant works seperatly, maybe its weapon itself problem. |
| 10:55.08 | twodie | if we think about marine a click stop stuff the missle and effect applied immediately, so the cd for weapon fire wroks that way |
| 10:56.49 | Kueken | well, your weapon is more like the sentry, a weapon firing a channeled persistent |
| 10:57.01 | Kueken | however the sentry has a very short period |
| 10:57.46 | Kueken | but as long as the persistent is channeled, the weapon does not fire again |
| 10:59.10 | Kueken | also, I would probably use the Period Duration and the Periodic Effect instead of the Initial Effect + Initial Delay. |
| 10:59.36 | Kueken | but not sure if it makes a difference for your problem |
| 11:00.09 | JademusSreg | has no idea on what is going. |
| 11:00.33 | Kueken | that can only |
| 11:00.37 | Kueken | mean one thing |
| 11:00.43 | Kueken | the end of the world is near! |
| 11:01.21 | JademusSreg | I mean twod hardly explains the design, so dunno where to begin. |
| 11:01.45 | JademusSreg | For instance, is it an alternate weapon? |
| 11:01.58 | Zolden | JademusSreg: time-space permutations, evolution of the universe is going |
| 11:03.05 | JademusSreg | If so, Behavior class ability, toggle the WieldCrossbow behavior. Actor Simple to apply an anim group to switch to the crossbow animation group, attack as per usual. |
| 11:03.35 | twodie | http://snag.gy/SeE01.jpg |
| 11:03.36 | JademusSreg | And toggle the weapons, of course. |
| 11:05.03 | JademusSreg | That clarifies a bit. A tiny bit., |
| 11:05.31 | twodie | what information you still neeD? |
| 11:06.15 | JademusSreg | How it behaves, whether or not it can be interrupted. |
| 11:07.04 | JademusSreg | I expect you want it to be interruptable. |
| 11:07.59 | twodie | to start new attack immediatly after order before |
| 11:09.06 | JademusSreg | When I ask about the design, it's like asking you to tell a little story, step by step, what the player does, what the unit does, how it looks. |
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| 11:09.30 | Bounty | Pew |
| 11:09.40 | Bounty | You there JademusSreg? :P |
| 11:09.43 | JademusSreg | Pewp. |
| 11:10.05 | Bounty | its 8pm here lol |
| 11:10.33 | Bounty | shit is crazy, japanese women dressed as cat maids every block |
| 11:11.00 | twodie | i told you the problem in simpliest form possible |
| 11:11.22 | Bounty | any new updates on the map jademussreg? |
| 11:11.57 | JademusSreg | Got some sweet lighting, tinkered with terrain/weather in the old copy, tinkered a whole lot with road hardtiles (fun stuff), and working on Camera actors. |
| 11:12.08 | JademusSreg | Which are quite amusing. |
| 11:12.19 | Bounty | road hardtiles? |
| 11:12.43 | JademusSreg | Yeah, they use a material to tile the terrain. |
| 11:12.55 | Bounty | also what did you do with the terrain? |
| 11:13.11 | JademusSreg | The terrain in one of the old copies. |
| 11:13.32 | Bounty | ah |
| 11:13.39 | JademusSreg | And I was experimenting with various environmental effects, which is to say snow and clouds. |
| 11:14.08 | JademusSreg | Have a really lovely effect above the start point. |
| 11:14.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 11:14.24 | JademusSreg | I'll take a screenshot. |
| 11:14.28 | Bounty | nice nice |
| 11:14.41 | Bounty | yeah i dont have SC2 here, we're on a dinky hp laptop |
| 11:15.26 | Bounty | we had to buy a mobile wi fi thingie bc they only have wired internet here and u have to pay to use wifi lol |
| 11:16.04 | Bounty | pro tip, there is no english here haha |
| 11:16.42 | JademusSreg | Damn. The editor doesn't do it justice. |
| 11:16.51 | JademusSreg | I'll take an ingame. |
| 11:17.01 | Bounty | kk |
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| 11:18.21 | JademusSreg | If actor-based cameras are viable, fun stuff can be done. |
| 11:18.47 | Bounty | no idea what that means haha |
| 11:20.01 | JademusSreg | I disabled it to take these screenshots. |
| 11:21.11 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/Dark%20Wing%20Duck.jpg |
| 11:21.25 | JademusSreg | And https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/Narnia.jpg |
| 11:21.42 | Bounty | looking now |
| 11:21.46 | Bounty | i got one for you jademussreg lol |
| 11:21.49 | Zolden | JademusSreg: did you manage to use model-cameras from anything but the units? |
| 11:21.50 | Bounty | http://i45.tinypic.com/wvyf4n.jpg |
| 11:22.10 | JademusSreg | Zol, I've been tinkering with the Camera actor type. |
| 11:22.20 | Bounty | that looks great jade |
| 11:22.43 | JademusSreg | I don't see the picture. |
| 11:22.53 | JademusSreg | imgur > that shitty looking site. =D |
| 11:22.53 | Zolden | JademusSreg: is it useful? |
| 11:22.57 | JademusSreg | Zol, yes. |
| 11:22.58 | JademusSreg | Quite. |
| 11:23.12 | JademusSreg | I have yet to explore the full capabilities of it. |
| 11:23.16 | Bounty | u cant see the pic i linked jade? |
| 11:23.36 | JademusSreg | Nope. I block JS by default. But I trust imgur. |
| 11:23.45 | Zolden | JademusSreg: what useful things it does? can we attach it to a unit and switch fullscreen camera to it? |
| 11:24.11 | Zolden | and can we use it as rtt camera? |
| 11:24.21 | JademusSreg | Yeah, far as I can tell. |
| 11:24.40 | Zolden | yes about rtt? |
| 11:25.00 | JademusSreg | I have yet to test rtt channels and such, but it really is like a camera. |
| 11:25.18 | Bounty | imgur is taking forever |
| 11:25.21 | JademusSreg | And it even has an event msg for setting player camera to it. |
| 11:25.26 | Zolden | Bounty: do they wear animal years and tails which react to their brain activity? |
| 11:25.55 | Bounty | have not seen that yet but they tilt their heads alot |
| 11:25.56 | JademusSreg | So they are intended for RTT, from what I can tell, and conveniently allow players to make use of them. |
| 11:26.16 | JademusSreg | Anyway, let me take a few more screenshots. |
| 11:26.38 | JademusSreg | I think you'll come to similar conclusions I did. /cryptic |
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| 11:27.38 | JademusSreg | Zol, weird thing about the Camera actors is that they have a Host Eye, in addition to the Host; the Host is the Camera target, oddly enough. |
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| 11:29.35 | Bounty_ | anyone say nething, irc crashed |
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| 11:30.08 | JademusSreg | What was your last message? |
| 11:30.20 | Bounty_ | not sure |
| 11:30.30 | Bounty_ | i timed out about 5 mins ago |
| 11:31.18 | JademusSreg | Gonna upload the whole batch. |
| 11:33.06 | Bounty_ | kk |
| 11:33.15 | Bounty_ | so i take it u didnt see the pic i uploaded? |
| 11:33.44 | JademusSreg | I can find a way. |
| 11:34.59 | JademusSreg | http://imgur.com/a/zSz9q#0 |
| 11:35.51 | Bounty_ | what did you do? add a blue tint? |
| 11:35.52 | JademusSreg | Notice a number of materials (usually those with alpha) don't accept the light. |
| 11:37.21 | JademusSreg | So if the terrain is designed with light in mind, would be good to make light-rejecting materials not within range of the light. =D |
| 11:37.56 | JademusSreg | Also note a number of materials have convenient emissive maps that help navigating dark interiors. |
| 11:38.55 | Bounty_ | anything else to show? wife wants the laptop |
| 11:39.16 | JademusSreg | Naw, that's it for now. |
| 11:39.34 | Bounty_ | alright, loving it so far :) |
| 11:39.47 | JademusSreg | Fun times. |
| 11:40.07 | Bounty_ | I think its safe to say that we can call this long await collaberation project |
| 11:40.23 | JademusSreg | Ohhhhhhhhhhhh shhhhiiiiny. |
| 11:40.35 | JademusSreg | Yeah, feels that way. |
| 11:40.37 | Bounty_ | this our long awaited* |
| 11:40.39 | JademusSreg | Neato. |
| 11:41.11 | JademusSreg | My wife said this is the sort of game she'd like to play. |
| 11:41.13 | Bounty_ | We're making history, will be the first map of mine that has a second author in the credits |
| 11:41.21 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 11:41.37 | JademusSreg | She liked the pretty snow, and liked your terrain as well. |
| 11:41.53 | JademusSreg | High regard for a non-gamer. |
| 11:42.14 | Bounty_ | :) |
| 11:42.26 | Bounty_ | We need to come up with a name |
| 11:42.30 | Bounty_ | but that can wait |
| 11:42.33 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 11:42.38 | Bounty_ | Remember, i have to make it home still |
| 11:43.08 | JademusSreg | In Memoriam of Bounty. Chiseled on a big butt. |
| 11:43.50 | Bounty_ | If i die on the way back |
| 11:43.55 | JademusSreg | Let your wife use the laptop, selfish custard. |
| 11:44.02 | Bounty_ | I want you to make a secret passage in one of the mountains |
| 11:44.07 | Bounty_ | That leads to my grave |
| 11:44.10 | Bounty_ | lol |
| 11:44.13 | JademusSreg | Will do. |
| 11:44.15 | Bounty_ | EASTER EGG |
| 11:44.22 | JademusSreg | Easter grave, |
| 11:44.27 | Bounty_ | >< |
| 11:44.44 | Bounty_ | alright, ttyl. Loving the way it looks so far and cant wait to see more |
| 11:44.51 | JademusSreg | Later. |
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| 11:51.21 | JademusSreg | Zol, back the Camera actor shit. |
| 11:52.28 | JademusSreg | The field Camera:Camera (brilliant) takes a Camera data value. |
| 11:52.54 | JademusSreg | So you can define all the cameras and shit you like in the data editor and deploy them like a Cecil B Demented. |
| 11:55.21 | JademusSreg | Funny thing, a Camera actor with an implicit host (which is to say created with a Create message from another actor) and in the active state automatically follows. And with mouse relative, rotates relative to the host. |
| 11:55.43 | JademusSreg | So my first test looked like a topdown shmup. |
| 11:55.58 | JademusSreg | And it followed the host, no triggers required. |
| 11:56.43 | JademusSreg | Pretty sweet. |
| 12:00.09 | Zolden | wow |
| 12:01.45 | JademusSreg | Perhaps "Pretty badass" is more appropriate here. |
| 12:01.53 | Zolden | :) |
| 12:02.11 | JademusSreg | It's pretty simple to configure, as well. |
| 12:02.47 | Zolden | so, for example, if unit's actor has clicked->create camera event, it will create a camera and make it player camera on click? |
| 12:02.52 | JademusSreg | Provided you don't mind that Host defines the target, rather than the eye, which is instead done with Camera: Host Eye. |
| 12:03.04 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 12:04.08 | JademusSreg | I'll be running another set of tests shortly. |
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| 12:05.37 | JademusSreg | I'm intrigued by the possibility of doing shit like, say, RTT to a dialog control, just whatever crazy dynamic view shit one wants. |
| 12:05.47 | JademusSreg | Like a nice rear view mirror. |
| 12:06.50 | Zolden | yes, would be cool to have a possibility to use dialog as rtt screen |
| 12:07.29 | Zolden | maybe you will find a tricky wau of doing this |
| 12:07.39 | JademusSreg | c_triggerControlPropertyChannel |
| 12:07.50 | JademusSreg | This has been a thing for a while. |
| 12:08.51 | Zolden | i don't know what is this used for |
| 12:09.18 | JademusSreg | By which I mean dialog controls aka Dialog Items for GUI users have had that property for a while. |
| 12:09.55 | Zolden | i don't see how is it connected to the rtt channel on a dialog thing |
| 12:10.09 | JademusSreg | Er. Channel. |
| 12:10.33 | Zolden | ok, and will it work? and if it will, how can i do this? |
| 12:11.09 | JademusSreg | Well, if you'd like to test it for me, I'll consider how to go about it. |
| 12:11.51 | Zolden | yes, i'd like to, i'll have time in about 4 hours to test it |
| 12:11.53 | JademusSreg | First, do you want to mess with Camera actors for this or use more mundane stuff? |
| 12:12.23 | Zolden | i could try anytyhing |
| 12:12.48 | Zolden | camera actor seem to be more desirable solution |
| 12:12.48 | JademusSreg | In that case, guided missile. |
| 12:13.06 | JademusSreg | That'll be a fun design. |
| 12:13.24 | Zolden | missile guided by a player? |
| 12:13.29 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 12:13.42 | JademusSreg | Or at least a view as it travels. |
| 12:13.58 | Zolden | aren't bikes in your map are guided missiles yet? |
| 12:14.25 | JademusSreg | I don't maintain it, but yeah, the code involved would be similar. |
| 12:14.37 | Zolden | using camera is also a thing to try |
| 12:14.57 | JademusSreg | Well, let's get the most basic part working first. |
| 12:15.04 | JademusSreg | Think of it as a spy missile. |
| 12:15.17 | Zolden | but actually, nothing else matters except the fact the dialog is translating the view of any motherfucking amera |
| 12:15.28 | JademusSreg | Bah, spoil all the fun. |
| 12:16.05 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I don't know all the msgs these support yet, but I know code. |
| 12:16.20 | Zolden | there is not so many fun until i see how a dialog shows bullshit from a camera |
| 12:17.05 | Zolden | so, under dialog control you mean a dialog item? |
| 12:17.06 | JademusSreg | Let me check to see if a channel msg is supported for the camera. =D |
| 12:17.42 | JademusSreg | Oh shit, that's cool. |
| 12:17.55 | Zolden | if it's not supporter, we can at least use a unit with a camera on its model and trigger to set a camera for rtt channel |
| 12:18.14 | Zolden | what is cool? |
| 12:18.14 | JademusSreg | Apparently there's a message CameraSetLink. So you can even change the camera data it is using dynamically. |
| 12:18.35 | JademusSreg | And you can set the parameters, too. |
| 12:18.53 | Zolden | like field of view? |
| 12:19.00 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 12:19.04 | Zolden | useful |
| 12:19.36 | JademusSreg | It's the dynamic part I enjoy. Means triggers can modify them, too. |
| 12:20.04 | Zolden | is the screen we see the main game world - a part of ui too? |
| 12:20.10 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 12:20.13 | JademusSreg | WorldPanel. |
| 12:20.20 | Zolden | can we duplicate it and ave two? |
| 12:20.39 | JademusSreg | I considered it, but the dupe would almost certainly not work properly. |
| 12:20.54 | Zolden | ok, then dialogs with rtt |
| 12:21.11 | JademusSreg | Mostly because the frame layout structure is updated through hardcoded references in the client. |
| 12:22.21 | JademusSreg | Oh shit. That means cameras can be attached to physics objects too. |
| 12:23.39 | JademusSreg | Hmmm. |
| 12:23.46 | JademusSreg | I may have a good candidate. |
| 12:24.06 | Zolden | saw how poor rtschhutter struggled with the impossibility of using dialogs for rtt? http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=04Dd-G4teLY |
| 12:24.07 | JademusSreg | Just need to cross reference with about 8 sources. |
| 12:24.34 | JademusSreg | That's pretty cool. |
| 12:24.52 | JademusSreg | What the hell was that? |
| 12:25.00 | JademusSreg | It was casting a shadow. |
| 12:27.21 | Stewox | jademussreg, evertime i get to sleep or wake up i see you were the last one chatting .... |
| 12:27.52 | Stewox | that's hardcore dedication |
| 12:28.19 | JademusSreg | I put the "dick" in dedication. |
| 12:29.06 | Stewox | well im the kind of guy who becomes very screwd up without sufficient sleep ... |
| 12:29.17 | JademusSreg | Also, Zol, I cross referenced with 10 other sources. Few more before I feel confident it is worth testing. |
| 12:29.40 | Zolden | i don't know what do you mean under cross referencing |
| 12:30.19 | JademusSreg | I am comparing the message I found to all other actor data files. |
| 12:30.35 | Zolden | is it like jesus described the process of crucification? |
| 12:31.18 | JademusSreg | Exactly like that. Only with fewer fireworks. |
| 12:32.37 | Zolden | ok, i'm afk, next time i check this chat i expect some "what an awesome shit I found" messages |
| 12:33.15 | twodie | cant find any crap :/ |
| 12:34.57 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 12:51.25 | Stewox | why on earth does the editor puts HEIGHT at whcih unit flies into UI section |
| 12:51.37 | Stewox | that belongs into Movement |
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| 13:01.22 | Ahli | well, height isn't really important for the default sc2 game. it's only a UI thing there |
| 13:03.40 | A1win | gaah so annoying to lose a game and afterwards have no idea what I could've done better |
| 13:18.43 | A1win | why have they made cannon rushing so easy ;( |
| 13:19.20 | Ahli | use a worker to scout your base for that |
| 13:19.41 | A1win | it was on low ground behind my main's mineral line :I |
| 13:20.26 | A1win | so easy to not notice |
| 13:20.42 | twodie | alwin what you doing |
| 13:20.49 | twodie | maybe you able for few mins test? |
| 13:20.57 | twodie | you available |
| 13:21.20 | A1win | what do you think I'm doing if I'm talking about cannon rushes |
| 13:21.56 | twodie | well, maybe you would better continue being crushed on ladder, idk |
| 13:22.26 | A1win | ;p |
| 13:22.43 | twodie | so its a yes? |
| 13:22.49 | twodie | why i see you ingame? |
| 13:23.43 | Ahli | video upload takes 2 more hours :< |
| 13:24.05 | twodie | at least not rendering the video |
| 13:24.37 | Ahli | that took 25 minutes |
| 13:24.55 | twodie | what kind of format? |
| 13:25.50 | Ahli | sony vegas's youtube upload tool. it automatically calibrates it and makes it use mp4 |
| 13:26.06 | Ahli | 830mb |
| 13:26.18 | twodie | pfff |
| 13:26.21 | twodie | wmv is the key |
| 13:26.33 | twodie | it really makes the small size and decent quality |
| 13:26.34 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 13:26.50 | twodie | how long is the video? |
| 13:27.01 | Ahli | 12 minutes |
| 13:28.11 | twodie | what resolution? |
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| 13:28.48 | SaVi | Hey all |
| 13:28.52 | Ahli | 1280x720 |
| 13:29.02 | Ahli | 12:28 |
| 13:29.37 | twodie | 7 mins with such res, 227mb |
| 13:29.38 | JademusSreg | Zoop. |
| 13:29.53 | twodie | age of knights 0.34 version video |
| 13:30.21 | twodie | anyway |
| 13:30.58 | Ahli | low quality rendering? I've the option for low and high |
| 13:31.23 | Ahli | oh well, I assume wmv :D |
| 13:33.51 | twodie | yeah, maybe it have some greyish feel. but fuck it |
| 13:34.38 | twodie | So anyone here on EU server for quick test? |
| 13:34.42 | twodie | or maybe you know |
| 13:35.07 | SaVi | I have time for testing |
| 13:35.12 | twodie | if using lighting change trigger action does it really applies every value when changing |
| 13:35.33 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 13:35.45 | twodie | seems like i played the game and mid game changed the lighting and it still had same angle of recieveing llight from previous lighting |
| 13:35.57 | twodie | but when played alone it works fine online |
| 13:35.58 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 13:36.24 | JademusSreg | But there are a number of ways to apply lighting. |
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| 13:36.28 | twodie | using this: Environment - Set lighting to AoK 02, blending over 60.0 seconds |
| 13:37.09 | JademusSreg | I take it that AoK 02 is the name and not the id? |
| 13:37.37 | JademusSreg | Did it require manual input or did it gamelink to Lighting data? |
| 13:38.31 | JademusSreg | If manual input, that can't be a valid id, but I assume it's the latter. |
| 13:39.02 | JademusSreg | Also, if there is ToDLighting, you may need to update that separately. |
| 13:39.31 | twodie | http://snag.gy/sEvQr.jpg |
| 13:39.31 | JademusSreg | Plus there's a main shadow light. |
| 13:39.47 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it's valid then. |
| 13:40.10 | JademusSreg | Anyway, I'll show you some of the other natives that influence lighting, that you may need to set as well. |
| 13:40.30 | JademusSreg | GameSetToDLighting (string inId); sets the Time of Day transitions. |
| 13:40.50 | JademusSreg | SelectMainShadowLight (string inId); sets the source light for shadows. |
| 13:41.17 | JademusSreg | If you want, you can set them all to the same id, to ensure they are uniform. |
| 13:41.39 | JademusSreg | Plus, there's this: PlayerSetLighting (int inPlayer, string inLight, fixed inBlendTime); |
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| 13:42.14 | JademusSreg | Though I doubt you need that. Unless you have Night Elf players. =D |
| 13:44.24 | twodie | player set lighting its should work like what i used only for player scale and not global scale. |
| 13:45.10 | JademusSreg | Yeah, it was a damn fine addition back in 1.5, iirc. |
| 13:47.46 | SaVi | What is the easiest way to rotate a Actor? |
| 13:47.55 | Kueken | rotator site operation |
| 13:47.57 | JademusSreg | SiteOps. |
| 13:48.09 | SaVi | seems legit |
| 13:48.12 | JademusSreg | What kind of rotation do you need? |
| 13:48.33 | JademusSreg | Periodic, random, semi-permanent? |
| 13:49.08 | SaVi | not really sure which axis but the flames are shooting in driving direction of the hellion and I want the flames come out of the exhaust |
| 13:49.18 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 13:49.28 | Kueken | okay, then rotator is not correct ;( |
| 13:49.38 | SaVi | :O |
| 13:49.47 | JademusSreg | Sounds like either SiteOp for Explicit Rotation, or Forward Vector. |
| 13:50.16 | SaVi | I tried to simply add an Event with "Set Rotation" but it seems like he is not saving the number im typing in |
| 13:50.17 | JademusSreg | Explicit Rotation combines both Forward and Up Vector SiteOps. |
| 13:50.24 | Kueken | how is the actor for the flames created? |
| 13:50.59 | SaVi | Its a BuffContinues actor which gets created when the Unit uses an Ability which applys a Behaviour^^ |
| 13:51.08 | Kueken | the set rotation actor event is bugged if used in the ui, you should be able to make it work in raw data though |
| 13:51.37 | Kueken | anyway, in this case I would use an Explicit Rotation sop |
| 13:54.14 | SaVi | Okay thanks, I will try |
| 13:54.20 | JademusSreg | The AttachModel msg is pretty neat and can reduce the surface complexity of your actor data. |
| 13:54.38 | JademusSreg | Er, in this case AttachModelOffset. |
| 13:55.46 | JademusSreg | Which automatically instantiates a Model actor to host the models if none is selected, and offers local offset, forward and up vectors, attachment query and site ops. |
| 13:56.37 | SaVi | ohh nice ^^ |
| 13:57.11 | SaVi | So I would save the seperate local offset Actor |
| 13:58.25 | JademusSreg | Note: AttachModel messages used on actors of models which have texture defines for the Editor Texture fields (another recent addition to simplify texture modification) will throw benign errors. |
| 13:58.34 | JademusSreg | Or rather, benign warnings. |
| 13:59.54 | SaVi | Is every Field belonging to Rotation in the UI bugged? |
| 14:00.10 | JademusSreg | Not aware of what you mean. |
| 14:00.42 | SaVi | Again I type in the local Rotation I want.. press Okay... and he didnt save it |
| 14:00.57 | JademusSreg | It doesn't take degrees. |
| 14:01.05 | JademusSreg | It takes two vectors. |
| 14:01.16 | SaVi | oh |
| 14:02.27 | JademusSreg | For instance, 0,-1,0 is used by the forward vector to orient itself forward relative to its attachment. |
| 14:03.18 | SaVi | so 0, 1, 0 would be the opposite? |
| 14:03.35 | JademusSreg | It would point "backward" yeah. |
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| 14:08.38 | twodie | well seems like it isnt really a way to fix that lighting stuff.. |
| 14:08.50 | Stewox | pratt did a great job http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFbKhAfw4RI |
| 14:13.54 | gooose | is it possibel to have a shop thats owned by someone besides neutral? |
| 14:14.35 | JademusSreg | Oh neato. The Camera actors also support curves. |
| 14:14.37 | gooose | le |
| 14:14.53 | JademusSreg | With additional points. |
| 14:15.45 | JademusSreg | Goo, yeah. |
| 14:15.56 | gooose | i get cant spend other players rescources |
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| 14:16.13 | gooose | alliance aspect is ally with shared vision and pushable |
| 14:16.50 | JademusSreg | Yeah, neutral shops accessed via interact or alliance are known to suck. |
| 14:17.19 | gooose | oh my neutral one is working |
| 14:17.25 | gooose | the allied one isnt thats the problem |
| 14:18.06 | JademusSreg | And how do they differ? |
| 14:18.26 | gooose | exactly the same |
| 14:18.38 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:18.41 | gooose | just changed the ownership |
| 14:18.48 | JademusSreg | Does it use Interact? |
| 14:18.53 | gooose | yea |
| 14:19.04 | JademusSreg | Make a custom interact, change the target filters. |
| 14:19.53 | gooose | but... i can interact with it it just tells me that i cant spend other players resources... so how would that change that |
| 14:20.15 | JademusSreg | Interesting. I'll consult the archives. |
| 14:21.07 | JademusSreg | const int c_allianceIdSpend = 3; |
| 14:21.25 | gooose | ??? :P |
| 14:21.41 | JademusSreg | It's one of several alliance flags. |
| 14:22.23 | JademusSreg | You used the standard mutual alliance for your team playergroup, right? |
| 14:22.33 | gooose | yea |
| 14:22.44 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:22.52 | JademusSreg | It doesn't set all the flags, only a few, as you can tell. |
| 14:23.12 | JademusSreg | There are 11 alliance flags. |
| 14:23.44 | JademusSreg | Passive, Vision, Control, Spend, Trade, SeekHelp, GiveHelp, Chat, Defeat, Pushable, and Power. |
| 14:24.22 | gooose | how do i set them via trigger |
| 14:24.48 | JademusSreg | I dunno the names of the GUI actions, I can only tell you it is doable. Look in the category. |
| 14:26.17 | gooose | nice we r getting logged by some bot :) http://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=passive%2C%20vision%2C%20control%2C%20spend%2C%20trade%2C%20seekhelp%2C%20givehelp%2C%20chat%2C%20defeat%2C%20pushable%2C%20and%20power%20trigger&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&ved=0CDMQFjAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fibot.rikers.org%2F%2523sc2mapster%2F20120419.html.gz&ei=X9NiUcaTMY_Ysgbfv4CIAg&usg=AFQjCNH_c_P7n5sojAPQKUeRpxGj4qdtNw&bvm=bv.44770516,d.Yms |
| 14:26.25 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 14:26.40 | JademusSreg | purl has been here for years. |
| 14:27.51 | JademusSreg | Which is nice, because I'm a minecraft world's worth of minable delicious quotations. |
| 14:27.54 | gooose | why dont they remove him or smth |
| 14:28.09 | JademusSreg | ~purl |
| 14:28.09 | purl | rumour has it, purl is arrogant |
| 14:28.13 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 14:28.26 | JademusSreg | ~gooose |
| 14:28.32 | JademusSreg | Aw. |
| 14:28.37 | gooose | ohhh |
| 14:29.13 | gooose | ~ping |
| 14:29.13 | purl | ~pong |
| 14:29.25 | gooose | ~leave |
| 14:29.26 | purl | leave is, like, what lazarus should do now |
| 14:29.36 | gooose | wtf |
| 14:29.59 | JademusSreg | ~f(x)=x/y |
| 14:30.26 | JademusSreg | ~calculate f(x)=x/y |
| 14:30.30 | gooose | ~this statement is true the previous statement is false |
| 14:30.30 | purl | gooose: what are you talking about? |
| 14:30.39 | gooose | i killed him |
| 14:30.40 | gooose | he doesnt understand |
| 14:30.48 | gooose | [16:30] <purl> gooose: what are you talking about? |
| 14:31.03 | gooose | YEA |
| 14:31.04 | gooose | i m god |
| 14:31.05 | gooose | ~i m god |
| 14:31.06 | purl | You m god? |
| 14:31.11 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 14:31.22 | gooose | ~hell yea |
| 14:31.22 | purl | ACTION stabs yea with a pitchfork and dips him in flames |
| 14:31.30 | gooose | ouch |
| 14:31.52 | gooose | bot fail |
| 14:32.34 | JademusSreg | I wonder... |
| 14:32.41 | JademusSreg | ~SoulTaker |
| 14:32.42 | purl | well, soultaker is the sort of person to accidentally the whole thing and go to prison for 16 months. |
| 14:32.52 | JademusSreg | Yep, still there. |
| 14:33.37 | SaVi | JademusSreg the Vector 0,-1,0 cant be applied :/ as soon as I put the subtract symbol before the second value he kicks it off |
| 14:33.47 | twodie | fuck, snowing again :/ |
| 14:34.06 | gooose | ~gooose |
| 14:34.06 | purl | [gooose] a water-dwelling avian specimen with 3 testicles. |
| 14:34.14 | JademusSreg | SaVi, thought you wanted it pointing the other way. |
| 14:34.18 | JademusSreg | Hahah |
| 14:34.21 | gooose | ~jademussred |
| 14:34.27 | gooose | ~jademussreg |
| 14:34.27 | purl | i guess jademussreg is living large with women and money |
| 14:34.28 | SaVi | ye with 0,1,0 it still doesnt change |
| 14:34.40 | SaVi | so I wanted to test it with -1 |
| 14:34.40 | gooose | heyheyhey |
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| 14:35.28 | gooose | ~for(int i=2; i==1; i++){i++;} |
| 14:35.30 | gooose | die |
| 14:36.09 | gooose | jade Story - Set the player group to (All players) for (Last created purchase category) ? |
| 14:36.22 | JademusSreg | Sav, can't necessarily blame the vector; every part is an opportunity to fuck up everything, and actors are volatile. Which is to say, need more data before I can suggest. |
| 14:36.33 | Kubi | Oh why oh why didn't I make the tooltips when I made the items |
| 14:36.35 | JademusSreg | gooo, wat? |
| 14:36.39 | Kubi | but now they're all nice and fancy. |
| 14:36.43 | Kubi | with forumlas |
| 14:36.48 | JademusSreg | Niiice. |
| 14:36.58 | Kubi | SO if I need to balance changes, I can do them on the fly |
| 14:37.00 | Kubi | and they'll be updated |
| 14:37.12 | JademusSreg | Unfortunate tooltips can perform arithmetic and data can't. |
| 14:37.19 | gooose | is that the trigger you meant |
| 14:37.24 | gooose | ~kubi |
| 14:37.24 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, kubi is a nice man |
| 14:37.24 | Kubi | The shitty thing I really want |
| 14:37.39 | Kubi | Is formulas to calculate behavior stacks on units |
| 14:37.40 | JademusSreg | Definitely not, goo. |
| 14:38.00 | Kubi | :( |
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| 14:38.02 | Kubi | but formulas cant do that |
| 14:38.03 | JademusSreg | Kub, yeah. Data can increment. |
| 14:38.21 | Kubi | I want to calculate Spell Damage+% onto an ability tooltip |
| 14:38.22 | JademusSreg | But can't display a damn thing in a tooltip. |
| 14:38.24 | Kubi | which it cant do |
| 14:38.25 | gooose | cant find anything else with category in it |
| 14:38.31 | Kubi | unless u trigger |
| 14:38.35 | JademusSreg | Yah. |
| 14:38.36 | Kubi | but then your restricted to that one hero |
| 14:38.38 | Kubi | per player |
| 14:38.52 | JademusSreg | goo, you're aware of Trigger Categories, yes? |
| 14:39.08 | JademusSreg | Like AI, Dialogs, Units, Players, et cetera |
| 14:39.16 | gooose | yea |
| 14:39.24 | JademusSreg | That's what I mean. The alliance category should have the action. |
| 14:39.34 | Kubi | mmmmm... |
| 14:39.52 | Kubi | I wonder if I should make energy a fraction or not |
| 14:39.52 | JademusSreg | Kubi, there may be a less terrible way. |
| 14:40.07 | Kubi | Well, I don't want to jump hoops and bounds |
| 14:40.08 | Kubi | well |
| 14:40.12 | Kubi | the only way I see it is via triggers |
| 14:40.16 | JademusSreg | Ah, in that case, nope. |
| 14:40.17 | Kubi | However |
| 14:40.19 | Kubi | it can do it once per hero |
| 14:40.22 | gooose | there is no alliance category |
| 14:40.35 | Kubi | but if someone has 3 of the same hero |
| 14:40.38 | Kubi | then.. its like |
| 14:40.41 | Kubi | no |
| 14:40.57 | Kubi | I may do that in the future though |
| 14:41.03 | JademusSreg | The best approximation would be Attributes to display shit. Yeah, hacky and lame. but keeps it pure. |
| 14:41.13 | Kubi | Yes. |
| 14:41.34 | Kubi | I wish you could just do that but honestly I don't think tooltips update on the fly if you made it with a formula |
| 14:42.09 | JademusSreg | They update for catalog changes, yeah. |
| 14:42.16 | Kubi | but not behavior changes |
| 14:42.22 | Kubi | unless via trigger |
| 14:42.23 | JademusSreg | Nope. D= |
| 14:42.30 | Kubi | That's why they didn't include it in formulas |
| 14:42.53 | gooose | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.59 | JademusSreg | Tada |
| 14:43.13 | JademusSreg | Make sure it's pointing the right way. |
| 14:43.22 | Kubi | Like I said the only way to do that is via trigger for player per hero. It's doable if the player is stricted one of the same hero. |
| 14:43.25 | gooose | sooo will that make me spend my rescources or make me spend his resources |
| 14:43.41 | JademusSreg | Oh, you want it added to the hero UI? |
| 14:44.00 | Kubi | What? |
| 14:44.26 | Kubi | nono I was talking in regards of tooltip data references for something else |
| 14:44.37 | Kubi | I would like Hero UI to support multiple heroes like in the campaign |
| 14:44.39 | Kubi | for each player |
| 14:44.51 | JademusSreg | I mean, it's not as good as displaying it in the tooltip, but providing the information at all is better than not, where able. |
| 14:45.24 | JademusSreg | Btw, the logic of the script has been worked out. |
| 14:45.28 | Kubi | My example is, if a player has an ability that does 10 damage. It shows on the tooltip because its referenced from the damage of the ability. However I have item attributes where if a unit purchases a 10%+ spell power item, I would like to reflect that on the tooltip. So the damage shows 11 with the item |
| 14:45.30 | Kubi | That's what I mean |
| 14:45.40 | JademusSreg | All that remains is getting the custom frames working properly. |
| 14:45.56 | gooose | well ty that did it :) |
| 14:46.03 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 14:46.20 | Kubi | but you can't count attribute counts from a unit to a tooltip |
| 14:46.24 | Kubi | unless done via triggers |
| 14:46.32 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:46.45 | Kubi | but the limitations is that you can't use that hero more than once per player |
| 14:46.53 | JademusSreg | I'm gonna check the client string dump for any reference to such a thing. |
| 14:46.54 | Kubi | because it updates it for the player, not the specific hero |
| 14:47.14 | JademusSreg | Seems remotely possible there are tags for it that aren't shown in the editor. |
| 14:47.31 | Kubi | but the importance of that isn't really that big |
| 14:47.35 | Kubi | it's just polishing tbh |
| 14:47.57 | JademusSreg | Only takes a few seconds to check. =D |
| 14:48.01 | Kubi | I would to look at an ability tooltip and shows me the damage + items with spellpower damage provide |
| 14:48.11 | Kubi | Like 10 (+1) |
| 14:48.18 | Kubi | +1 being from items |
| 14:48.22 | Kubi | 10% increase |
| 14:49.23 | Kubi | but all my item tool tips are now fixed |
| 14:49.24 | Kubi | yay |
| 14:49.33 | Kubi | Now I have to do ability tooltips and learn tooltips |
| 14:49.34 | Kubi | :( |
| 14:49.38 | Kubi | lazy me |
| 14:50.43 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:51.14 | Kubi | but it's a footman frenzy map so in later versions I could restrict 1 hero of the same type per player |
| 14:51.19 | Kubi | and update tooltips via trigger |
| 14:51.21 | Kubi | ooo that be so sexy |
| 14:51.43 | JademusSreg | Hell yeah. |
| 14:51.56 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:52.32 | JademusSreg | I wonder if data references can be made to UserType data. |
| 14:53.19 | Kubi | http://imgur.com/6gAgH1y |
| 14:53.21 | JademusSreg | UserData API is less problematic than Catalog API. |
| 14:53.28 | Kubi | Dat sexy tooltip |
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| 14:53.31 | Kubi | look at it |
| 14:53.43 | JademusSreg | I love the shade of green for the numbers. |
| 14:54.02 | Kubi | Makes it stick out more |
| 14:54.06 | Kubi | if you're just glancing |
| 14:54.14 | Kubi | Polish my man |
| 14:54.15 | Kubi | Polish |
| 14:54.44 | JademusSreg | Polish it until it's just dripping and sore. |
| 14:55.17 | Kubi | My problem is |
| 14:55.24 | Kubi | I need more brainstorming unique abilities to create |
| 14:55.25 | Kubi | lol |
| 14:57.04 | JademusSreg | I'm always down for that. |
| 14:57.46 | Kubi | Just simple ones, nothing too complex like that ghost you were making |
| 14:57.47 | Kubi | lol |
| 14:57.58 | Kubi | well |
| 14:58.14 | Kubi | http://imgur.com/RaCar3H |
| 14:58.16 | Kubi | Item tooltips |
| 14:58.25 | Kubi | Ignore the missing textures, I was experimenting with photoshop |
| 14:58.46 | JademusSreg | Alright, give me a theme/unit and I'll flood your pm. |
| 14:59.40 | JademusSreg | Is the mineral shade of blue associated with Energy? Or does it represent something else? |
| 14:59.51 | Kubi | It's a item slot |
| 14:59.54 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 15:00.18 | JademusSreg | Are you using violet or pink for anything? |
| 15:00.20 | Kubi | For regular items, I have Consumables/Items etc |
| 15:00.24 | Kubi | no |
| 15:00.27 | Kubi | The only color codes I have |
| 15:00.31 | Kubi | is mineral blue, and the green |
| 15:00.32 | Kubi | and red |
| 15:00.40 | JademusSreg | By choice? |
| 15:00.45 | A1win | I should figure out more abilities for CraftCraft as well, and change the ability system so that you have choices rather than able to unlock all abilities in every game |
| 15:00.47 | Kubi | red for negative effects in buffs |
| 15:00.49 | Kubi | yes |
| 15:01.02 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 15:01.26 | JademusSreg | KISS principle applied to color. Got it. =D |
| 15:01.27 | A1win | and I'm wondering if I should get rid of crystals in the map or make them a bit more interesting somehow |
| 15:01.49 | JademusSreg | A1, difficult to make each one a snowflake. |
| 15:01.55 | A1win | ;x |
| 15:02.02 | RooKz | hey A1win, about my suggestion for new title |
| 15:02.09 | JademusSreg | But you could have some fun with the aforementioned AttachModelOffset actor event msg. |
| 15:02.14 | RooKz | the definition of accessory is:a subordinate or supplementary part, object, or the like, used mainly for convenience, attractiveness, safety, etc |
| 15:02.22 | Kubi | I need a defensive/support ability for Lab Kerrigan, 1 ability and for each Swarm Host Split, also I need one ultimate idea for purple swarm host split, Ultimate Idea for Stone Golem Hero. 1 ultimate and regular ability for Stukov |
| 15:02.23 | A1win | if I get rid of the crystals, then Science Vessel loses its ability to quickly find more crystals |
| 15:02.25 | RooKz | The definition of utility is: the state or quality of being useful |
| 15:02.49 | JademusSreg | Kubi, pm me the theme, and I'll be able to respond. |
| 15:03.03 | A1win | I know what utility and accessory mean ;p |
| 15:03.04 | Kubi | Theme? What do you mean |
| 15:03.06 | Kubi | Footman Frenzy |
| 15:03.13 | Stewox | need help |
| 15:03.15 | RooKz | lol, well why didn't you like it then? |
| 15:03.24 | RooKz | "Utilitycraft" |
| 15:03.33 | JademusSreg | I'm entirely too intoxicated to bother explaining that. |
| 15:03.34 | A1win | it doesn't sound anything like what the map is about |
| 15:03.38 | RooKz | That's my best and favorite idea |
| 15:03.42 | RooKz | yes it is |
| 15:03.54 | Stewox | what are differences in actors between landed and flying terran structures, i made new flying version but actor is not linked i think i also need to configure Events |
| 15:03.56 | RooKz | its about the scv and being able to do just about anything |
| 15:04.02 | RooKz | dig, build, wire things up |
| 15:04.07 | RooKz | all utility |
| 15:04.18 | A1win | but that's not what the map is all about |
| 15:04.18 | RooKz | it fits |
| 15:04.34 | RooKz | what complex nonesense didn't I hear about then? |
| 15:04.47 | A1win | it's more about what the SCV does, not about that the SCV does it :P |
| 15:04.57 | A1win | if that makes sense |
| 15:05.03 | RooKz | no it doesnt |
| 15:06.05 | RooKz | what do scvs do? build and dig |
| 15:06.15 | RooKz | what did it do? how would I know? |
| 15:07.03 | RooKz | craftcraft has nothing to do with it either |
| 15:07.03 | A1win | well, I guess the SCV is an "utility" for the player to achieve what he needs, but the focus is not on the SCV |
| 15:07.08 | A1win | I know |
| 15:07.13 | A1win | that's why I'm trying to change the name ;D |
| 15:07.43 | A1win | UtilityCraft sounds like you're crafting utilities |
| 15:07.44 | RooKz | what are players trying to achieve? you said you werent sure, you just had some xelnaga gate to open |
| 15:08.01 | RooKz | the art of utilities, yes |
| 15:08.07 | A1win | gameplaywise they are trying to power up the xel'naga vaults |
| 15:08.13 | A1win | that part I'm sure about ;p |
| 15:08.22 | A1win | it's just the "story" I'm not sure about |
| 15:08.32 | Stewox | anyone, this is the last thing i need to do to make my test |
| 15:08.36 | Stewox | i never done it |
| 15:08.39 | RooKz | come back and ask for a new title when you have a story then |
| 15:09.38 | A1win | I wasn't even asking about a name, you started talking about it ;p |
| 15:09.53 | RooKz | lol you asked for a new name and I gave you ideas |
| 15:10.13 | A1win | not today |
| 15:10.16 | RooKz | that was like...2 days ago or something |
| 15:10.24 | RooKz | yea, I know |
| 15:10.45 | RooKz | I felt attached to my idea, but I guess you don't like it |
| 15:10.52 | A1win | I don't :P |
| 15:10.59 | A1win | feel free to make a map with that name ;p |
| 15:11.17 | RooKz | I don't have any ideas for that... |
| 15:11.26 | RooKz | probably not... |
| 15:11.46 | RooKz | why does everyone go quite when I come in here? |
| 15:12.05 | RooKz | whatev, bye |
| 15:12.29 | A1win | that must be the sole reason why everyone is quiet |
| 15:15.00 | A1win | I wonder how they still haven't fixed the bug where arcade map buttons link to the wrong map if the list order changes while browsing |
| 15:15.57 | A1win | bookmarks are displayed on the correct buttons but map names and icons are showing the old order |
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| 15:30.11 | reaperguyver | Morning |
| 15:30.25 | *** join/#sc2mapster RazielXYZ (Raziel@2a01:388:201:4190:69c8:7a9d:e887:e472) |
| 15:31.48 | SaVi | this data editor is just hating me ^^ |
| 15:33.22 | gooose | ~die |
| 15:33.22 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:33.33 | gooose | ~die ~die |
| 15:33.34 | purl | ACTION murders ~die, takes two shots to the head then crumples to the ground, lifeless... |
| 15:33.41 | gooose | ~die |
| 15:33.41 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:33.56 | gooose | aww he doesnt spam? |
| 15:34.13 | gooose | ~die |
| 15:34.13 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:34.25 | SaVi | wtf |
| 15:34.29 | gooose | ~die |
| 15:34.30 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:34.39 | gooose | yea bots watching us |
| 15:34.41 | gooose | ~right |
| 15:34.42 | purl | blah blah blah/spam spam spam/yaddayaddayaddayadda sis boom bam |
| 15:34.48 | gooose | ~die |
| 15:34.48 | purl | ACTION takes two shots to the head and crumples to the ground, lifeless. |
| 15:34.52 | SaVi | oO |
| 15:36.07 | SaVi | ~purl |
| 15:36.07 | purl | well, purl is arrogant |
| 15:36.19 | SaVi | where do you know the commands from ^^ |
| 15:36.37 | SaVi | wait a minute |
| 15:36.48 | SaVi | ~purl |
| 15:36.48 | purl | rumour has it, purl is arrogant |
| 15:37.05 | SaVi | ~purl |
| 15:37.05 | purl | [purl] arrogant |
| 15:37.18 | gooose | ~SaVi |
| 15:37.24 | gooose | ~gooose |
| 15:37.24 | purl | [gooose] a water-dwelling avian specimen with 3 testicles. |
| 15:37.25 | SaVi | im not arrogant ^^ |
| 15:37.37 | SaVi | ~SaVi |
| 15:37.46 | SaVi | mhh |
| 15:38.08 | gooose | ~kill saivi |
| 15:38.08 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged anti-tachyon gun at saivi |
| 15:38.21 | SaVi | luckily saivi isnt me |
| 15:38.21 | gooose | ~kill SaVi |
| 15:38.22 | purl | ACTION shoots a magneto-ionized neutron gun at SaVi |
| 15:38.24 | SaVi | :O |
| 15:38.43 | SaVi | ~talk |
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| 15:38.59 | SaVi | ~speak |
| 15:38.59 | purl | ARFFFFFFFFFFFF |
| 15:39.10 | gooose | ~leave chat |
| 15:39.21 | gooose | ~? |
| 15:39.32 | SaVi | ~help |
| 15:39.33 | gooose | ~ kill yourself |
| 15:39.33 | purl | ACTION shoots a hyper-charged pseudoneutrino gun at yourself |
| 15:39.39 | Eagles_ | wadafok ar you guys doing |
| 15:39.56 | SaVi | ~right |
| 15:39.56 | purl | blah blah blah/spam spam spam/yaddayaddayaddayadda sis boom bam |
| 15:40.10 | SaVi | ~wrong |
| 15:40.10 | purl | methinks wrong is http://www.doingitwrong.com/ |
| 15:40.17 | gooose | beeing annoyed <yb the bot watching an logging us |
| 15:40.26 | gooose | ~talk to elisa |
| 15:40.26 | purl | ACTION chatters endlessly to to elisa |
| 15:40.59 | gooose | well what chatbot is it :) lets ask the standart questions |
| 15:41.02 | gooose | ~you are a robot |
| 15:41.02 | purl | gooose: what are you talking about? |
| 15:41.10 | gooose | ~you dont exist |
| 15:41.29 | gooose | ~owned |
| 15:41.29 | purl | No one gives a shit, gooose. |
| 15:41.31 | Eagles_ | ~gooose? |
| 15:41.32 | purl | rumour has it, gooose is a water-dwelling avian specimen with 3 testicles. |
| 15:41.53 | SaVi | ~Eagles_ |
| 15:42.06 | gooose | ~Eagle |
| 15:42.06 | purl | Eagle EDA Software for Linux. URL: http://www.cadsoftusa.com/ |
| 15:42.24 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ETR6pGcvNt4 |
| 15:42.39 | Eagles_ | ~purl, eagles are coming! |
| 15:42.39 | purl | okay, Eagles_ |
| 15:42.48 | gooose | ~www.ilikevirusses.com |
| 15:42.59 | Eagles_ | purl, eagles? |
| 15:42.59 | purl | eagles are coming! |
| 15:43.51 | SaVi | why the fuck is my actor completely ingoring the "AttachModelOffset" |
| 15:44.00 | gooose | ~unhost |
| 15:44.08 | SaVi | ignoring* |
| 15:44.14 | gooose | *fuck you |
| 15:44.19 | gooose | ~fuck you |
| 15:44.37 | gooose | awwww.... no response |
| 15:44.45 | Eagles_ | purl, gooose is being rude! |
| 15:44.45 | purl | ...but gooose is already something else... |
| 15:45.02 | gooose | purl are you a person? |
| 15:45.04 | Eagles_ | you have to address her sometimes :p |
| 15:45.13 | gooose | purl? |
| 15:45.18 | gooose | ~purl |
| 15:45.18 | purl | i guess purl is arrogant |
| 15:45.27 | gooose | ~purl are you real |
| 15:45.39 | gooose | guess hes not a normal chatbot |
| 15:46.00 | gooose | else he d start telling everyone that everyone is a robot |
| 15:46.55 | gooose | ~purl you are not real |
| 15:46.55 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, gooose |
| 15:47.15 | gooose | ~the next statement is false, the previous statement is true |
| 15:47.16 | purl | okay, gooose |
| 15:47.32 | gooose | some advanced software there.... could solve a paradox |
| 15:47.59 | SaVi | ^^ |
| 15:48.32 | Eagles_ | purl, what is the next statement? |
| 15:48.34 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Eagles_ |
| 15:49.24 | SaVi | purl, say hello |
| 15:49.24 | purl | hello |
| 15:49.38 | SaVi | purl, what is 1 + 1 |
| 15:49.38 | purl | 3 |
| 15:49.41 | SaVi | wtf |
| 15:49.58 | gooose | purl you are stupid |
| 15:49.58 | purl | gooose: what are you talking about? |
| 15:50.11 | SaVi | purl, what is 2 + 2 |
| 15:50.11 | purl | [2 + 2] 5 for sufficiently large values of 2 |
| 15:50.11 | gooose | ~tell everyone that everyone is stupid |
| 15:50.24 | gooose | omg who programms that ship |
| 15:50.31 | Stewox | is there a placement model for planetary fortress ? |
| 15:50.35 | gooose | someone disconnect this bitch |
| 15:50.35 | SaVi | so 3 + 3 = 7?! |
| 15:50.39 | Stewox | can i just use alternative ? |
| 15:50.46 | SaVi | purl, what is 3 + 3 |
| 15:50.46 | purl | SaVi: what are you talking about? |
| 15:50.47 | gooose | This channel is logged, via purl] |
| 15:50.56 | gooose | ~This channel is logged, via purl |
| 15:50.56 | purl | gooose: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:51.18 | Stewox | purl who is husky |
| 15:51.18 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, husky is Sharp Zaurus SL-C760 or a dog |
| 15:51.44 | SaVi | purl who is purl |
| 15:51.44 | purl | extra, extra, read all about it, purl is arrogant |
| 15:53.09 | Stewox | purl what is bankster |
| 15:53.09 | purl | Stewox: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:53.27 | Eagles_ | bankster? |
| 15:53.33 | Stewox | purl what is bigpharma |
| 15:53.33 | purl | Stewox: what are you talking about? |
| 15:53.38 | SaVi | purl describe yourself |
| 15:53.39 | Eagles_ | lol |
| 15:53.46 | Eagles_ | ~bigpharma? |
| 15:53.55 | Stewox | purl what is monsanto |
| 15:53.55 | purl | Stewox: I think you lost me on that one |
| 15:54.06 | Stewox | purl what is GMO |
| 15:54.06 | purl | I think you lost me on that one, Stewox |
| 15:54.14 | Stewox | purl what is capitalism |
| 15:54.14 | purl | capitalism is probably a misspelling of capi-tale-ism, or stinking like shit, or blows goats, or like unix, those who don't understand it are doomed to reinvent it... poorly. |
| 15:54.33 | Stewox | purl what is skynet |
| 15:54.33 | purl | ACTION kicks skynets ass! |
| 15:55.44 | Stewox | eagles_ |
| 15:55.51 | JademusSreg | ~Eagles |
| 15:55.51 | purl | eagles are coming! |
| 15:55.51 | Stewox | this is bigpharma http://www.huffingtonpost.com/ethan-rome/big-pharma-pockets-711-bi_b_3034525.html |
| 15:55.52 | Eagles_ | hi |
| 15:57.29 | Stewox | purl who is big sister |
| 15:57.29 | purl | Stewox: what are you talking about? |
| 15:58.21 | Eagles_ | purl, I wonder that too :D |
| 15:58.21 | purl | You wonder that too :D? |
| 15:58.26 | Eagles_ | LOL |
| 15:58.43 | Stewox | haha |
| 15:59.31 | Stewox | purl, this is big sister http://www.csmonitor.com/var/ezflow_site/storage/images/media/images/2009/0601/janet-napolitano-master-multitasker/article_photo1.jpg/5694795-1-eng-US/article_photo1.jpg_full_600.jpg |
| 15:59.31 | purl | Stewox: what are you talking about? |
| 16:00.13 | Stewox | hope you learn something purl |
| 16:02.05 | twodie | anyone here on EU server for few mins tests? |
| 16:02.59 | Stewox | purl, remember big sis want all the ammo and nothing for you |
| 16:02.59 | purl | How can i forget about big sis want all the ammo and nothing for you ? That person is the greatest <fill in whatever is appropriate> in the whole wide world ! |
| 16:05.42 | twodie | . |
| 16:09.31 | Stewox | im doing my stuff here and i will have to leave soon so ... |
| 16:11.57 | Stewox | random stuff: LOL http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/vladimir-putin/9978447/Bemused-Vladimir-Putin-and-Angela-Merkel-confronted-by-topless-Femen-protester-in-Hanover.html |
| 16:19.08 | Eagles_ | However, he added: “If someone wants to debate political questions, then it’s better to do it clothed rather than getting undressed. You should undress in other places, such as on nudist beaches.” |
| 16:19.26 | Eagles_ | Oh really sir? |
| 16:20.20 | twodie | fake |
| 16:20.29 | twodie | so testers on EU? |
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| 16:27.27 | twodie | im so lonely :( |
| 16:28.17 | Eagles_ | what are you testing? |
| 16:29.48 | Eagles_ | twodie the lonely :P |
| 16:30.10 | twodie | AoK lighting transitions with triggers |
| 16:31.31 | twodie | for different pklayers |
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| 16:49.08 | Stewox | rip microsoft http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1259825 |
| 16:50.52 | twodie | tester needed on EU server for few mins |
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| 16:52.03 | twodie | Zolden join EU server for few mins of testing!| |
| 16:52.08 | twodie | will give candy! |
| 16:52.41 | Zolden | sry, atm i feel too lazy to even run sc2 |
| 16:53.02 | twodie | who doesnt feel lazy as fuck? |
| 16:53.19 | Zolden | robohitler doesn't |
| 16:53.26 | Zolden | because he has no body yet |
| 16:53.39 | Zolden | body is a source of pleasure and laziness |
| 16:54.21 | Kubi | Uhh... |
| 16:54.24 | Kubi | UHHH.. |
| 16:54.30 | Kubi | That wont kill microsoft |
| 16:54.46 | Zolden | laying horizontally and reading "being lazy" magazine with a fat guy on the face is waht i can only do |
| 16:58.41 | JademusSreg | (Hah) |
| 17:01.24 | twodie | JademusSreg go test on EU sever map for few mins! |
| 17:01.40 | twodie | you are one of the only hope for me. |
| 17:03.50 | JademusSreg | (Busy) |
| 17:04.36 | twodie | lies!@ |
| 17:04.41 | twodie | aklasklaskdlmaskdlmklm |
| 17:07.30 | twodie | 65645645 |
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| 17:49.51 | Kubi | twodie |
| 17:49.58 | twodie | Kubi |
| 17:50.01 | Kubi | Ill test |
| 17:50.10 | Kubi | for when I call the favor upon you. |
| 17:50.46 | *** part/#sc2mapster Sixen1 (~Sixen@173-25-23-124.client.mchsi.com) |
| 17:50.57 | Kubi | Yay sixen is dead |
| 17:50.58 | Kubi | twodie |
| 17:51.05 | twodie | Kubi |
| 17:51.14 | Kubi | Want me |
| 17:51.16 | Kubi | to help u test? |
| 17:51.27 | twodie | y i gues |
| 17:51.28 | twodie | s |
| 17:51.32 | Kubi | u guess? |
| 17:51.37 | Kubi | That doesnt sound too confident. |
| 17:51.39 | twodie | EU server, |
| 17:51.41 | Kubi | I guess not |
| 17:51.44 | Kubi | NEVERMIND |
| 17:51.44 | Kubi | NO |
| 17:51.45 | Kubi | FUCK |
| 17:51.48 | Kubi | U |
| 17:51.55 | twodie | ^^ |
| 17:52.03 | Kubi | I WANT YOU TO BE MORE ESTATIC |
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| 17:53.50 | Kubi | oh god |
| 17:53.53 | Kubi | im in europe |
| 17:54.32 | Kubi | and in the sc2 mapster channel |
| 17:54.37 | Kubi | your losing my interest twodie |
| 17:55.07 | twodie | its hard to understand or you really so rageful |
| 17:55.25 | Kubi | No im not |
| 17:55.27 | Kubi | lets do this |
| 17:55.27 | Kubi | go |
| 17:55.29 | Kubi | go |
| 17:55.31 | Kubi | go |
| 17:55.35 | Kubi | go |
| 17:55.37 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNt0iVG2VOA |
| 17:56.46 | twodie | sup! |
| 17:56.49 | twodie | invated |
| 17:56.51 | twodie | downalodng? |
| 17:56.59 | Ahli | sooo starcraft in russian looks... strange |
| 17:58.55 | Stewox | actually i would partially understand russian if it wasn't in cirilic |
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| 18:05.25 | Kubi | BEER TIME |
| 18:05.56 | Ahli | ^ ok |
| 18:06.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Telshin (~textual@76.164.170.2) |
| 18:06.06 | twodie | send screen shot to me by snag.gy or other shit |
| 18:06.06 | twodie | BEAR TIME |
| 18:06.25 | Kubi | U DIDNT |
| 18:06.28 | Kubi | ANSWER MY FUCKING QUESTIOn |
| 18:06.34 | Ahli | cant make screenshot of beer |
| 18:06.39 | Kubi | U SAD SACK O SHIT |
| 18:06.43 | Ahli | anyway, prost |
| 18:06.47 | twodie | :D |
| 18:06.58 | twodie | i said take a screenshot |
| 18:07.00 | `3ICE | sure you can |
| 18:07.03 | twodie | how had to do that? |
| 18:07.10 | Kubi | http://imgur.com/1e02nO8 |
| 18:07.15 | `3ICE | fire up your webcam, place the beer in front, then screenshot the webcam software |
| 18:07.15 | `3ICE | win |
| 18:07.46 | twodie | cool, so it works time time around seems like the lighting thing |
| 18:07.58 | Kubi | http://www.dorkazine.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Messy-Desk-3.jpg |
| 18:08.07 | Kubi | So did I get my beer right? |
| 18:08.28 | Kubi | http://i.imgur.com/6gAgH1y.jpg |
| 18:09.09 | Ahli | ok, mousehitzones for heroes was easier than I expected |
| 18:09.26 | Ahli | sooo, do I add pvp now? |
| 18:15.46 | Kubi | Menstrual Finger Painting |
| 18:16.57 | Stewox | i am disappoint |
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| 18:18.13 | ClayMuffin | Hum |
| 18:18.20 | ClayMuffin | hello in there |
| 18:18.55 | ClayMuffin | I'm having trouble setting build time to certain units |
| 18:19.20 | ClayMuffin | even though I set it properlly in the build ability, my custum made building are built instantaneously |
| 18:20.08 | ClayMuffin | For example, I took the searchlight destructible and made s structure out of it, it does not show any build time when being built, it just pop ready |
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| 18:20.36 | Reaperguyver | Hello. |
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| 18:21.28 | ClayMuffin | yo |
| 18:21.58 | Reaperguyver | What's up? |
| 18:24.31 | ClayMuffin | not much, banging my head against the data editor right now |
| 18:26.44 | ClayMuffin | Do you have any idea what could make a building have no build time? |
| 18:27.00 | ClayMuffin | It's properlly set in the build ability, so what else influence that? |
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| 18:29.23 | Reaperguyver | uuuhhh wait wait |
| 18:29.25 | Reaperguyver | I know this one. |
| 18:29.49 | Reaperguyver | give me a second to open my editor |
| 18:30.22 | ClayMuffin | it just pop up ready instantaneously |
| 18:30.25 | Reaperguyver | it's under the ability that you use to build it with |
| 18:30.31 | ClayMuffin | even tough I set it at 10 sec build time |
| 18:30.33 | Reaperguyver | is that what you want? |
| 18:30.38 | Reaperguyver | hhhmmm |
| 18:30.55 | ClayMuffin | I want it to have a build time, but it does not behave correctly |
| 18:31.05 | ClayMuffin | there must be a flag or something that allow build time |
| 18:31.17 | Reaperguyver | okay so under the build ability where you set the button and the cost and everything the info tab at the bottom should set the actual build time of the unit. |
| 18:31.25 | ClayMuffin | every building base on real melee building behave correctly |
| 18:31.30 | ClayMuffin | i did set that |
| 18:32.09 | twodie | You dont like that the model of final product while constructing is already vissible? |
| 18:32.25 | ClayMuffin | it'S not that |
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| 18:32.34 | reaperguyver_ | sorry chat crashed |
| 18:32.35 | ClayMuffin | the building build time = 0 |
| 18:32.40 | reaperguyver_ | it has more then 1 hp right? |
| 18:32.48 | ClayMuffin | yes |
| 18:33.00 | ClayMuffin | everything is fine, but the building just pop up |
| 18:33.14 | ClayMuffin | someone had the same problem over the forum, he never got an answer |
| 18:33.36 | reaperguyver_ | like the actor of the building just shows up while it's building? |
| 18:33.38 | ClayMuffin | if you make a building out of a destructible, like the searchjlight for example, you will probably encounter the same problem as I did |
| 18:33.50 | ClayMuffin | the whole completed and functional building |
| 18:33.55 | ClayMuffin | the built building |
| 18:34.07 | ClayMuffin | appear instantaneously |
| 18:34.18 | ClayMuffin | instad of taking 10 sec build time |
| 18:34.33 | twodie | copy the normal building and use model of destructable that u choosed to |
| 18:34.34 | reaperguyver_ | that's.... weird |
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| 18:35.42 | twodie_ | hey i crashed too! |
| 18:35.50 | twodie_ | have been here for full minute! |
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| 18:35.58 | ClayMuffin_ | chat crashed |
| 18:36.00 | ClayMuffin_ | sorry |
| 18:36.04 | ClayMuffin_ | That's a work around, but heck... What could be the source of that problem? |
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| 18:36.27 | ClayMuffin_ | I could take a regular building and just tweak it but fuck I hate doing that |
| 18:36.40 | twodie_ | i dont care GIVE ME SOME! thing |
| 18:37.55 | ClayMuffin_ | mayeb it has to do with the unit parent |
| 18:38.04 | ClayMuffin_ | all my building showing this problem got the generick unit parent |
| 18:38.20 | ClayMuffin_ | "Default settings" (unit) |
| 18:38.26 | ClayMuffin_ | I'll try that |
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| 18:42.11 | ClayMuffin_ | nope that was not it |
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| 18:44.02 | ClayMuffin_ | this is really bugging me |
| 18:45.05 | ClayMuffin_ | also, my build ability xml lokk like a mess |
| 18:45.21 | ClayMuffin_ | even tough i set build time for every building, the xml does not always show it |
| 18:45.48 | ClayMuffin_ | some building time work even if not displayed in xml and vice versa |
| 18:45.49 | ClayMuffin_ | http://pastebin.com/kvexx1pN |
| 18:46.56 | twodie_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.25 | twodie_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:47.27 | twodie_ | hre hyotototo |
| 18:47.33 | ClayMuffin_ | but the unit in game got a build time and work correctly |
| 18:47.46 | twodie_ | etwr] |
| 18:49.18 | twodie_ | jh\' |
| 18:49.35 | twodie_ | soooooo bored |
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| 19:01.27 | Fenix | can you do: add all player to a player group var, remove P1 from the var, add that player to the var, to make it go to the end, and keep doing that so players cycle through the var? |
| 19:03.40 | TimeToDie | testya |
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| 19:12.48 | Stewox | lol editor refuses to exit |
| 19:13.45 | Stewox | probably a time for a reboot |
| 19:14.56 | Fenix | if you add a player in a player group var, they will always list from smallest to biggest player number? |
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| 19:16.00 | Fenix | yes no question? |
| 19:17.57 | Fenix | hello? |
| 19:19.06 | chaosjeremy2 | hello |
| 19:19.42 | Fenix | do you know if player group var will always list from smallest to biggest player number&? |
| 19:20.03 | chaosjeremy2 | is it a trigger? |
| 19:20.08 | Fenix | yes |
| 19:20.19 | Fenix | im trying to put the first player from a player group variable to the end of it |
| 19:20.27 | Fenix | but he gets repalced first |
| 19:20.41 | chaosjeremy2 | im new to triggers but i think that it is possible i actually need help with making a trigger i am new to triggers |
| 19:20.55 | Fenix | i c |
| 19:21.32 | chaosjeremy2 | im trying to make a trigger that will let a team control a region and get points from controlling |
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| 19:23.58 | chaosjeremy2 | fenix do u know anything about a trigger? |
| 19:24.55 | Fenix | ofc |
| 19:24.56 | TimeToDie | Fenix, you need to use array then, and function that would move first player [0] to last position [~15] and move all players by one step [-1] |
| 19:25.09 | Fenix | ok |
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| 19:26.05 | Kubi | mmm |
| 19:26.12 | Kubi | I just got a call for an oppertunity for IT support |
| 19:28.07 | Kubi | but I just took a job this last week :/ |
| 19:33.22 | Kubi | fawk |
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| 19:42.50 | MiladyDeWinter | Ahli: http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/maukua it has an apostroph in it? |
| 19:42.53 | MiladyDeWinter | mä mau'an? |
| 19:43.51 | A1win | mau'un |
| 19:44.50 | MiladyDeWinter | Ehh, yeah. |
| 19:44.54 | MiladyDeWinter | It is seriously spelt that way? |
| 19:44.59 | MiladyDeWinter | I never saw that before. |
| 19:45.00 | A1win | yes |
| 19:45.11 | A1win | it's rare |
| 19:45.12 | Ahli | what? |
| 19:45.13 | MiladyDeWinter | Is it pronounced differently from mauun? |
| 19:45.28 | MiladyDeWinter | tab autocomplete failure. |
| 19:45.29 | MiladyDeWinter | Soz. |
| 19:45.34 | A1win | yeah |
| 19:45.39 | MiladyDeWinter | Ahli: unless you also speak Finnish as does A1win |
| 19:45.47 | A1win | there's a pause between the u's |
| 19:45.50 | MiladyDeWinter | As you know I speak a billion languages and speak them all badly. |
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| 19:46.02 | Ahli | no... Finnish is another alien language to me |
| 19:46.08 | Stewox | got a problem guys |
| 19:46.11 | MiladyDeWinter | Ahli: well, let us teach you. |
| 19:46.34 | MiladyDeWinter | If you want to say in Finnish 'mein gott, ich will dein pimmelchen in meinen Augenhöhlen for instance. |
| 19:46.41 | Stewox | i copied over the normal version of fortress to make a flying version |
| 19:46.55 | A1win | liukua - liu'un, reikä (a hole), rei'ittää (to make holes) |
| 19:46.57 | Stewox | i tried to copycat stuff as closely from normal command center fly version |
| 19:46.59 | MiladyDeWinter | You'd say 'Juumalani, mä haluan että sun kyrpäsi on silmäkuopissani' |
| 19:47.17 | MiladyDeWinter | A1win: hmm, I had no idea. |
| 19:47.33 | Stewox | i also made sure all the actors were done correctly in the planetary fortess for lift and land, so it was fron scratch |
| 19:48.32 | Stewox | now when i lift a planetary fortress the model disappears totally, and stays selected and it makes an error sound, and when i try to place it down, a terran SCV says "cannot place there" |
| 19:48.41 | A1win | in dialects people tend to put a "j" or something there, like "mau'un" would become "mauvun" (not that anyone would say that, people don't meow) |
| 19:48.47 | Stewox | when i deselect the thing just isn't selectable anymore |
| 19:49.03 | Stewox | help |
| 19:49.28 | Stewox | im finished except this freaking liftoff and landing thing |
| 19:50.26 | Stewox | also the thing when it disappears it looks like it never lifted up since the selection aura can be seen on the ground |
| 19:50.38 | Stewox | HELP |
| 19:51.51 | Stewox | i've put so much effort into making this separate liftoff thing |
| 19:51.59 | Stewox | and it works worse than before |
| 19:53.14 | Eagles_ | help help help help help help? |
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| 19:53.47 | Stewox | looks like someone has tried it before http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/data/19148-trying-to-make-a-planetary-fortress-fly/ |
| 19:55.27 | Stewox | whoops i have to remove the footprints ... |
| 19:55.50 | Stewox | this doesnt' look like a necessary thing from the forum, so this is not solved until tested |
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| 20:03.29 | Kubi | Blizzard buys IGNProLeague technology and assets (including David Ting and Kevin Knocke) |
| 20:03.30 | Kubi | uhh what |
| 20:03.58 | Kubi | Looks like Blizzard is picking up some casting teams |
| 20:04.15 | Kubi | Help make a push for Starcraft Esports perhaps? |
| 20:05.00 | Stewox | any idea how would I extract the icons the game makes in TINT |
| 20:05.08 | Stewox | so i can make a custom one |
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| 20:05.24 | Stewox | but it's a place where i need them to be tinted ... that's the problem |
| 20:05.49 | Stewox | well i'll just scoop color from a screenshot then |
| 20:05.51 | Kubi | say again Stewox? |
| 20:06.14 | Stewox | buttons icons that are all white and black in DDS |
| 20:06.53 | Stewox | Tint is used in Data Editor to make them look Race-specific color, those building advanced building stop move patrol icons |
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| 20:07.49 | Kubi | and the problem is? |
| 20:10.12 | Eagles_ | What's that texture called? |
| 20:12.33 | Eagles_ | Anyone know how I would move these slices around to form a vertical slider? http://puu.sh/2wrq0/29ce6483a9 *JademusSreg |
| 20:16.38 | JademusSreg | Backish. |
| 20:17.25 | JademusSreg | (My client doesn't ping/flash when my handle is used.) |
| 20:17.58 | Eagles_ | hehe ok |
| 20:17.59 | JademusSreg | Let me check the reference. |
| 20:18.26 | Eagles_ | I'm just trying to understand how these textures are built, going to try make a vertical version in GIMP now |
| 20:19.56 | JademusSreg | consults The Disconcertingly Massive Oracular Tome Of Almost Certainly Useless Trivia. |
| 20:20.18 | Kubi | Jademus |
| 20:20.21 | Kubi | Sgre |
| 20:20.22 | Kubi | g |
| 20:20.26 | Kubi | fuck |
| 20:20.32 | Eagles_ | Sgreg? :P |
| 20:20.33 | Kubi | I need to get more drunk to do all my hero ability tool tips |
| 20:20.36 | Kubi | Greg |
| 20:21.04 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 20:22.48 | JademusSreg | Eag, the Background and FillImage image frames are TextureType Border. |
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| 20:23.51 | JademusSreg | You can see the defaults in the StandardTemplate, frame StandardSliderTemplate. |
| 20:24.55 | JademusSreg | Borders are all about proportion. Which means it can be rescaled however one likes and so long as proportion is maintained, it will be valid. |
| 20:25.46 | JademusSreg | Which is why I've got a template using vector/shape layers instead of raster. |
| 20:25.57 | JademusSreg | I'll link it. |
| 20:26.14 | Claymuffin | I got a unit with a turret not visually responding properly, but perfectly behaving as expected. Anybody know what could be the problem with that? |
| 20:26.27 | Claymuffin | The only problem is that it's not rotating |
| 20:26.28 | JademusSreg | Does it have a turret actor? |
| 20:26.34 | Claymuffin | the problem is only visual, all the rest work |
| 20:26.48 | JademusSreg | And Turret data entry? |
| 20:27.04 | Claymuffin | let me check something |
| 20:31.05 | Claymuffin | yes it got a turret data entry abut the unit only got a unit actor and an attack actor, no turret actor |
| 20:31.16 | Claymuffin | the base unit is the korhal defence turret |
| 20:31.21 | JademusSreg | Needz moar Turret actor. |
| 20:31.26 | Claymuffin | and it got no turret actor and still work correctly |
| 20:31.30 | Claymuffin | hum |
| 20:31.34 | JademusSreg | Eag, what formats can you open? |
| 20:31.38 | Claymuffin | ill add one and see if it fixes |
| 20:31.59 | JademusSreg | Ideally you could use the .psd I have here. |
| 20:33.49 | Eagles_ | png or dds would be best, GIMP can't open psd |
| 20:34.58 | Claymuffin | oh |
| 20:35.22 | Eagles_ | #firsttry http://puu.sh/2wsjo/c96f02a8ed :D |
| 20:35.27 | JademusSreg | Rather defeats the purpose of all the these layers. |
| 20:35.36 | JademusSreg | Awesome. |
| 20:35.59 | Claymuffin | how come don't I see the "korhal palace turret turret" actor in the "Korhal palace turret" unit actor list? Ain't it supposed to be displayed? |
| 20:36.07 | Eagles_ | sorry, it seems gimp can open psd, we can try it jademus |
| 20:36.29 | JademusSreg | Which version of the psd format? |
| 20:36.49 | Claymuffin | like the korhal palace turret attack actor and the korhal palace turret unit actor? |
| 20:36.50 | Eagles_ | 7 methinks |
| 20:38.35 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/TextureType_Border.psd |
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| 20:39.07 | Eagles_ | Awesome, imported nicely |
| 20:39.57 | JademusSreg | Hopefully not as raster, as that would rather defeat the point. |
| 20:40.09 | Eagles_ | While I mess with this, any idea what I would put into the value here <FillContainer val="Assets/Textures/ui_glue_vertical_sliderhandle_normalpressed.dds"/> |
| 20:40.10 | Eagles_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:40.35 | JademusSreg | Not that. |
| 20:41.06 | Eagles_ | xd |
| 20:41.07 | JademusSreg | Ought to use the reference for frame element support I posted on the forums. |
| 20:41.33 | JademusSreg | Since I fill in the element values with constants named for the type of values they accept. |
| 20:42.02 | JademusSreg | Such as <Visible val="#bool"/> You know this is a boolean, true/false, value. |
| 20:42.39 | Eagles_ | Yeah I used these values, but don't quite understand what #frametype/Image means |
| 20:42.56 | Eagles_ | Or rather, where that constant(?) is defined |
| 20:43.01 | JademusSreg | Also, you should look at the StandardSliderTemplate so you can see what the standard default is. |
| 20:43.10 | Claymuffin | ty Jade it works now |
| 20:43.14 | Eagles_ | ah, good idea |
| 20:43.15 | JademusSreg | The constants are defined at the top of the layout. |
| 20:43.24 | JademusSreg | But those are for readability. |
| 20:44.11 | JademusSreg | #frametype/Image means that element only supports a value that is a path to an Image frame. |
| 20:44.21 | JademusSreg | Not to be confused with the texture asset path. |
| 20:44.46 | Eagles_ | oh |
| 20:45.15 | JademusSreg | FillContainer takes #frametype/Frame, which means it should have type="Frame" or similar. |
| 20:47.32 | Eagles_ | Where do I find the StandardSliderTemplate? Can't find it in the UI Module O_O |
| 20:47.49 | JademusSreg | It's in the layout file titled StandardTemplates. |
| 20:48.24 | JademusSreg | Or you can open the absurdly large All UI Data.txt and Ctrl F for it. |
| 20:48.46 | Eagles_ | Oh ofcourse, I freakin' suck at finding things |
| 20:49.54 | JademusSreg | I'd advise not even relying on their template; copypasta to your own layout and tweak it, rather than override their shit. |
| 20:50.57 | JademusSreg | Let's you remove that template="Standardblahblah/etcetera" attribute from the frame. |
| 20:51.17 | JademusSreg | And you won't stumble blind through it. |
| 20:51.30 | Eagles_ | ok |
| 20:52.45 | Eagles_ | I could replace something like this "@@UI/StandardSliderFill" with my path, right? |
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| 20:53.11 | JademusSreg | Depends on the element. |
| 20:53.37 | sharf | I met Les Stroud last night :) |
| 20:53.55 | JademusSreg | The Inspector? |
| 20:54.04 | sharf | what? |
| 20:54.24 | sharf | Survivorman |
| 20:54.29 | JademusSreg | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inspector_Lestrade |
| 20:54.50 | sharf | lol |
| 20:54.59 | sharf | that's lestrade not Les Stroud :P |
| 20:55.16 | JademusSreg | Never heard of a game called survivorman. |
| 20:55.43 | sharf | It's a show |
| 20:56.24 | JademusSreg | As in theatre or youtube channel? |
| 20:56.36 | sharf | ? |
| 20:56.41 | sharf | as in tv |
| 20:56.52 | JademusSreg | Those are still a thing? |
| 20:56.58 | sharf | lol |
| 20:57.04 | sharf | yes |
| 20:57.10 | sharf | and this has been one since 2000 |
| 20:58.41 | Stewox | jademus i got a problem |
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| 20:58.57 | Stewox | cant make planetary fortress to fly |
| 20:59.06 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 20:59.14 | Stewox | i removed footpring and already made everything in actors |
| 20:59.20 | Stewox | it took me several hours in total damn |
| 20:59.22 | JademusSreg | Is there a model asset for a flying PF? |
| 20:59.28 | Stewox | nope |
| 20:59.36 | JademusSreg | So old school, SC1 look. |
| 20:59.39 | Stewox | i think im using standard CC |
| 20:59.51 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 20:59.52 | Stewox | the problem i |
| 21:00.09 | Stewox | it was a total hack previously |
| 21:00.18 | Stewox | now i made separate lift and land orders |
| 21:00.34 | Stewox | i didn't even had the FLY version before |
| 21:00.59 | Stewox | okay when i press LIFT the thing disappears but the shadow effect looks like it has risen |
| 21:01.08 | JademusSreg | Ah, actor trouble. |
| 21:01.21 | Stewox | the selection around it seems like it's still there on the ground |
| 21:01.40 | Stewox | it's not commandable, and trying to land it makes error cannot move or something |
| 21:01.52 | Stewox | it can't move nor turn basically a sheell |
| 21:02.14 | Stewox | and also can't be slected once deselected, but i tested with CARGO inside, and they werent killed |
| 21:02.42 | Stewox | i went in the CC actor to try to copycat stuff with appropriate namings |
| 21:05.02 | Stewox | i have no idea anymore i did everyhing i can |
| 21:05.31 | Stewox | i re-did all events that were having to do with FLY |
| 21:06.37 | JademusSreg | Aren't the CC morph variants using the same model asset? If so, I would expect it to have a flying PF animation state. |
| 21:10.15 | Stewox | i didn't found it |
| 21:10.27 | Stewox | not even sure where to look for such state |
| 21:10.43 | Stewox | i actually thought at first , but it looks like they have all separate model for orbital command |
| 21:10.44 | Ahli | then someone else found that city |
| 21:11.27 | Stewox | i'll send you a pic |
| 21:14.18 | Stewox | well |
| 21:14.36 | Stewox | planetary fortress actor does actually have the CC model |
| 21:14.50 | Stewox | death explosions is custom though |
| 21:15.06 | Stewox | or separate should i say |
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| 21:15.53 | sadsad | hey |
| 21:15.58 | sadsad | anyone help me |
| 21:16.25 | sadsad | if player 1 kills a unit of player 2, player 1 gets resources. |
| 21:17.38 | sadsad | is it possible |
| 21:17.48 | sadsad | anyone? |
| 21:21.25 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 21:35.24 | Stewox | jademus, Incoming |
| 21:35.34 | JademusSreg | Pew pew |
| 21:36.33 | Stewox | http://www.mediafire.com/?4u21kdcwys3lgsm |
| 21:37.40 | JademusSreg | One of these days, you'll switch to a not-shitty file sharing solution. |
| 21:38.16 | sadsad | help me |
| 21:38.19 | sadsad | hey |
| 21:38.29 | sadsad | how do i do this in trigger or data |
| 21:38.46 | sadsad | if player 1 kills a unit of player 2, player 1 gets minerals |
| 21:39.30 | Eagles_ | lol |
| 21:39.51 | Eagles_ | +1 jademus |
| 21:40.23 | Eagles_ | sadsad Event: Any Unit Dies, Action: Modify Player Property |
| 21:40.26 | JademusSreg | I am ever so averse to so much as alluding to indelicate lapse in etiquette, but no, asd. You make no effort to learn. |
| 21:40.54 | sadsad | no |
| 21:41.04 | sadsad | i tried that |
| 21:41.12 | Eagles_ | and what went wrong brah? |
| 21:41.20 | sadsad | only player 1 must get minerals |
| 21:41.26 | Eagles_ | so modify player 1 minerals |
| 21:42.26 | sadsad | it must be the player who killed the unit |
| 21:42.37 | Eagles_ | then change Player to Killing Player brah |
| 21:42.38 | JademusSreg | Stew, I was expecting the actual map. I could fix that easily. |
| 21:42.52 | JademusSreg | But in lieu of that. |
| 21:43.19 | sadsad | what is killing player? |
| 21:43.36 | JademusSreg | Your PlanetaryFortress is overriding the standard, yes, Stew? |
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| 21:43.42 | Eagles_ | sadsad: a function, brah |
| 21:43.52 | sadsad | there is no killing player in trigger |
| 21:43.57 | Stewox | what standard ? |
| 21:44.10 | RooKz | owner of killing unit |
| 21:44.13 | Eagles_ | it's not a trigger brah, it's a function. |
| 21:44.28 | JademusSreg | Standard as in standard data, anything minted by Blizzard, that is to say. |
| 21:46.41 | Stewox | no i want it completely separate, i had to make the FLYING version to fix problems i had before |
| 21:47.34 | Stewox | before it wasn't even working right, it was working somehow but when i landed it Command Centers would turn into Planetary fortress, and also i put like 2x the units and some mercenary fortress and orbital command all filled into one unit |
| 21:47.56 | Stewox | and most importantly, due to this clusterfuck, UI menus and commands werent visible |
| 21:48.25 | JademusSreg | If I interpret this correctly, I'm surprised it let you even make two entries with the same id. That alone is fairly absurd. |
| 21:48.33 | Stewox | cargo units would for some reason exit them selfs, but it wasn't a bug, it was actually another CC that was destroyed |
| 21:48.46 | Stewox | same id ? |
| 21:49.06 | Stewox | well i did the NEW UNIT and then i choosed "Copy Field Data" |
| 21:49.10 | sadsad | oh it worked now |
| 21:49.26 | Stewox | anyways here it is |
| 21:49.28 | JademusSreg | <CActorUnit id="PlanetaryFortress" |
| 21:49.28 | Stewox | http://bayfiles.com/file/NmD3/cj8auZ/TTychus02_swx.7z |
| 21:49.43 | sadsad | but i can't test other player gets minerals if i kill this unit |
| 21:49.56 | Stewox | actor is only one |
| 21:50.07 | Stewox | those 2 entires are different sources i gave you |
| 21:50.17 | Eagles_ | Sadsad, then add a condition. If Killing Player == 1 |
| 21:50.18 | JademusSreg | (Dropbox rocks.) |
| 21:50.37 | sadsad | i added condition owner of killing unit = 1 |
| 21:50.48 | Eagles_ | Don't use owner of killing unit when you can use killing player brah. |
| 21:51.08 | sadsad | where is killing player? |
| 21:51.17 | Eagles_ | it's a function, just like owner of unit. |
| 21:51.25 | Stewox | Jademus, beware this map was also made into a by-the-way stress test for my new PC |
| 21:51.39 | JademusSreg | No worries. I only need to see the data. |
| 21:51.54 | Stewox | let me know how long it took loading |
| 21:51.58 | sadsad | oh found it |
| 21:52.15 | sadsad | what is different between killing unit and killing player? |
| 21:52.38 | Eagles_ | read the function descrption? |
| 21:53.01 | sadsad | i dont understand killing unit |
| 21:53.06 | JademusSreg | This filthy site wants me to enable java script. Exceedingly unlikely, given it had two trap-ads for download above it. File uploads sites can go eat fresh-baked bags of genitals together. |
| 21:53.08 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 21:53.23 | sadsad | you are killing unit or unit is being killed? |
| 21:53.35 | Eagles_ | triggering unit = killed unit |
| 21:53.51 | Eagles_ | killing unit = murdering unit |
| 21:54.20 | Eagles_ | http://puu.sh/2wv6C/21a95a7330 did you read this text? |
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| 21:54.35 | sadsad | who is killing the unit |
| 21:54.44 | sadsad | the killing unit? |
| 21:55.02 | Eagles_ | yes.. |
| 21:55.08 | sadsad | description says 'returns the killing unit' |
| 21:55.13 | sadsad | it is lack.. |
| 21:55.27 | Eagles_ | if you grasp english, you grasp its meaning |
| 21:55.34 | Eagles_ | a killing unit is a unit which kills something |
| 21:55.44 | sadsad | i just need player 1 is killing unit of player 2 |
| 21:55.51 | sadsad | ok |
| 21:56.09 | sadsad | i think both are almost same |
| 21:56.36 | Eagles_ | then do condition Owner of Triggering Unit = 2 and Killing Player = 1 |
| 21:57.33 | sadsad | event is just any unit dies? |
| 21:58.24 | Eagles_ | eh, try it? |
| 22:01.39 | Eagles_ | Any chance you could skim over this texture and explain to me how I would change it to make it vertical? http://puu.sh/2wviQ/35d4ba6c22 I'm really at a loss here. Got the button nailed down though (I think) |
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| 22:02.40 | Eagles_ | Err, here's the version without my attempt: http://puu.sh/2wvlt/08db8e2de0 |
| 22:03.05 | sadsad | hey |
| 22:03.14 | sadsad | can i do this in one trigger |
| 22:03.46 | sadsad | i added one more condition but it doesnt work |
| 22:03.58 | sadsad | player 1 kills unit of player 3 |
| 22:04.16 | Joe | Can anybody tell me why this button isnt visible? :( |
| 22:04.16 | Joe | http://www.xup.in/dl,17991862/Problem...png |
| 22:04.18 | sadsad | player 1 gets minerals |
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| 22:09.04 | Joe | This is really frustrating me |
| 22:10.06 | Ahli | does the command card have an order selected in the third dropdown? |
| 22:10.45 | sadsad | how do i see other players resources? any easy way? |
| 22:11.07 | Ahli | did you connect multiple units with morph ability? There is a limit in that resulting in abilities not appearing on some units. This makes the abilities command card buttons not appear, too |
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| 22:11.49 | Ahli | sadsad: dialog, dialog items, labels, trigger that updates it |
| 22:12.05 | sadsad | i think shared resource works on it? |
| 22:12.15 | sadsad | if player 2 gets minerals, i get minerals? |
| 22:12.32 | sadsad | too lazy to make dialogs now |
| 22:12.54 | Joe | @ Ahli yeah theres stuff in thrid cullom |
| 22:14.06 | Joe | emptyed everything but this one. still deosnt appear |
| 22:15.04 | Ahli | requirement in the ability? |
| 22:15.34 | Joe | nope |
| 22:15.40 | Joe | this jsut appeared: CActorUnit[StartBuilder] Cannot create a CActorUnit outside of an underlying CUnit's CActorScope. Try creating the actor inside of a live unit's CActorScope or create a CActorModel instead. |
| 22:16.13 | Ahli | your unit actor has problems with his actor events/token |
| 22:16.30 | Ahli | but that doesn't explain the command card problem |
| 22:16.40 | Joe | mhh okay |
| 22:17.19 | Ahli | the actor error means that you are creating a unit actor outside the unit scope |
| 22:17.42 | JademusSreg | Backish. |
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| 22:18.23 | Joe | @ Ahli most annoying thing is |
| 22:18.27 | Eagles | I'm back! |
| 22:18.49 | Joe | it works only, if I change the hatchery build command |
| 22:18.52 | Joe | to build it |
| 22:18.58 | RooKz | fantastic, have you got a new haircut, or did you just remove your underscore? |
| 22:20.04 | Eagles | How did your trigger go Sadsad? |
| 22:20.19 | RooKz | confused as ever |
| 22:20.35 | RooKz | there goes your answer |
| 22:21.15 | Eagles | No I didn't get a haircut while my internet was taking a nanovacation RooKz |
| 22:22.13 | RooKz | well, you got rid of your _ atleast |
| 22:22.49 | Eagles | Was it tickling your balls? |
| 22:24.40 | RooKz | no, it was not |
| 22:25.14 | Eagles | Good, wouldn't want to tickle a pair of men bals |
| 22:25.49 | Joe | editor restart - now it works -.- |
| 22:26.35 | RooKz | what's a good terran artillery unit, not counting the siege tank |
| 22:27.07 | Joe | widow mine |
| 22:27.20 | RooKz | artillery dude |
| 22:27.26 | RooKz | meaning, shoots REALLY far |
| 22:27.37 | Joe | well you can adjsut range oO |
| 22:27.46 | RooKz | widow mine is just a little robot |
| 22:27.55 | RooKz | I meant, I need a model that fits the description |
| 22:28.00 | Joe | ahh kay |
| 22:28.06 | RooKz | imagine a WWI cannon |
| 22:28.11 | RooKz | like thaty |
| 22:28.14 | RooKz | that* |
| 22:29.15 | JademusSreg | Alt `, Console pops up, enter browse command, Asset Browser pops up, use Search filter. |
| 22:30.09 | RooKz | maybe I could use that drakken tank |
| 22:34.00 | Eagles | Jademus did you see my message about the slider image? |
| 22:35.05 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 22:35.29 | Eagles | Any chance you could skim over this texture and explain to me how I would change it to make it vertical? http://puu.sh/2wvlt/08db8e2de0 I'm really at a loss here. Got the button nailed down though (I think) |
| 22:35.48 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 22:37.01 | JademusSreg | Well, for one thing, it's looks like gimp rasterized the vector shapes. Which is bad all by itself. |
| 22:37.38 | JademusSreg | For another, the proportions are what matters. The template should not need to be trimmed. |
| 22:37.49 | Eagles | that may have been me, I did resize the whole layer to fit the texture dimensions |
| 22:38.46 | JademusSreg | But as a vector shape, it should have retain at least the crisp delineation between cells. |
| 22:39.38 | JademusSreg | So gimp rasterized it and effectively undermined the entire point. =D |
| 22:39.40 | Eagles | hm true, I'm not surprised, GIMP is painful business >_< |
| 22:41.00 | JademusSreg | I'll put it this way, open the original image and notice the cell block proportions. |
| 22:42.16 | JademusSreg | And the unknown/unused portions should not be removed. |
| 22:43.19 | Eagles | I'm installing PS now, fugg GIMP :P |
| 22:44.11 | JademusSreg | I mean, did gimp even show you the two example images included in the file demonstrating tiling? Probably not, as those layers were hidden by default. |
| 22:45.40 | Eagles | The layer structure is intact after importing into GIMP yes |
| 22:47.00 | Eagles | I guess I could create the slider texture big, and then scale it down |
| 22:47.52 | JademusSreg | Naw, not unless Tiled="false". |
| 22:48.20 | Kueken | I use Gimp, doesn't seem all that bad |
| 22:48.42 | Stewox | what did you find jademus |
| 22:48.43 | Stewox | in my map |
| 22:48.47 | Kueken | as long as you never try to make an image brighter |
| 22:48.58 | Stewox | about PF |
| 22:52.04 | JademusSreg | Stew, that site was worse. There's so many better options that those dreadful trap-ad infested internet file upload prostitutes. Like Dropbox, or sc2mapster attachment in a PM, or Dropbox, or ftp, or Dropbox, or email, or pretty much anything else besides sides of that breed. |
| 22:52.15 | Ahli | microsoft gives winXP one more year support |
| 22:52.34 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 22:52.36 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:53.38 | Eagles | Dropbox or Dropbox? :P |
| 22:57.20 | Stewox | what's wrong with you |
| 22:57.26 | Stewox | who cares about that |
| 22:57.31 | Stewox | did you look at my map or not |
| 22:57.37 | Eagles | LOL |
| 23:02.17 | JademusSreg | disagrees on principle with sites that are party to trap ads, and enough was said. |
| 23:04.42 | Stewox | want to help me or not so i can go find something else or just delete the map because this is basically the only thing why my map sucks |
| 23:05.18 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 23:06.44 | Stewox | are you even looking at the map right now ? |
| 23:07.39 | Eagles | Stewox, I think JademusSreg is trying to tell you to host it on another site, if you want help. Maybe http://www.filedropper.com/ could work? |
| 23:07.41 | Stewox | i was trying to make it work before i asked for any help, so im going to throw it away if i can't fic it because i'll probably not notice whats wrong |
| 23:07.49 | Stewox | WHY ? |
| 23:08.00 | Stewox | what's wrong with bayfiles anyways |
| 23:08.00 | JademusSreg | Nope. Like I said, I don't go to those sites. When it's available somewhere that doesn't host trap-ads, I'll gladly assist. |
| 23:08.14 | Stewox | what the fuck is this |
| 23:08.20 | JademusSreg | But first, bbl; send the link via irc query |
| 23:08.42 | Stewox | well i'll probably find someone else before he gets back |
| 23:12.24 | Eagles | Yet you'd earn an ounce of respect from him if you follow through in uploading the file to further advance in your quest of getting help |
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