| 00:00.45 | Ahli | I didn't use twin drones |
| 00:00.57 | Ahli | I used automatic extractors -> instant maxed gas income |
| 00:01.25 | Ahli | then I had enough gas for upgrades and tech to build hydra ultralisk |
| 00:01.35 | Ahli | but everyone plays different |
| 00:02.51 | Ahli | pretty much everyone used a different combination and thinks it was strong... somehow that shows that the choices available in the campaign were well made by Blizzard. |
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| 00:09.52 | Taintedwisp | hey jademusSreg |
| 00:10.01 | Taintedwisp | hows it going? |
| 00:11.42 | Zolden | progammer_: good, i just picked it and gonna try it |
| 00:11.59 | Bounty | I love how the editor just randomly breaks my game for no reason |
| 00:12.07 | Bounty | and makes things unfixable |
| 00:12.15 | Bounty | GG |
| 00:12.17 | Ahli | like? |
| 00:12.34 | Bounty | well |
| 00:12.42 | Zolden | Bounty: he's trying to say that it won't hurt if you take a college software engineer grade |
| 00:12.44 | Bounty | i have a trigger the fires when something enters a region |
| 00:13.04 | Bounty | and its not firing |
| 00:13.09 | Zolden | ha! |
| 00:13.10 | Bounty | even though the unit is entering the region |
| 00:13.17 | Ahli | did you move the region? |
| 00:13.18 | Bounty | BUT it works for other circles in the region just not these 4 |
| 00:13.29 | Bounty | nope |
| 00:14.13 | Bounty | Fuck |
| 00:14.16 | Bounty | Thats all i can say |
| 00:14.46 | Bounty | Not that it really matters though, i have absolutely no testers anyways rofl |
| 00:15.35 | Ahli | well, you could ask in here... global play exists |
| 00:15.44 | Bounty | uh |
| 00:15.46 | Ahli | but I'm bound to watch flash vs ret now :D |
| 00:15.51 | Bounty | I always ask in here |
| 00:16.07 | Bounty | I've never gotten a tester from this place outside of people who know me lol |
| 00:16.16 | Ahli | try to find a moment when I'm not busy ^^ |
| 00:16.29 | Zolden | just wait more in the lobby |
| 00:16.39 | Bounty | Yeah, everyone is always to busy watching other people playing SC2 rather than test for people making stuff better than SC2 ;) |
| 00:16.56 | Bounty | My game is not public |
| 00:16.57 | Ahli | mapster's group has always people in it, too |
| 00:17.05 | Bounty | and its the same thing on there |
| 00:17.06 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:17.21 | Bounty | like seriously, since when has anything mapster related been a good way of getting testers? |
| 00:17.50 | Ahli | dunno. I create things that mostly work in singleplayer. So I don't have that much need of testers |
| 00:17.53 | Bounty | but neways, it doesnt matter because this shit wont work for NO reason |
| 00:17.58 | Ahli | so... create an AI ! |
| 00:18.03 | Bounty | Like i wish i could show you |
| 00:18.08 | Bounty | It would make your head explode |
| 00:18.19 | Bounty | Because there is no reason for this not to work |
| 00:18.35 | Ahli | did you try to remake the region? |
| 00:18.39 | Bounty | yep |
| 00:18.48 | Ahli | is the region used elsewhere in the code? |
| 00:18.59 | Bounty | nope |
| 00:19.14 | Bounty | lol its all one giant merged region with a series of circle regions |
| 00:19.19 | Ahli | is the way the unit enters the region the same as in the other regions? |
| 00:19.23 | Bounty | so why would certain parts of a merged region work |
| 00:19.24 | progammer_ | well to be fair is is MLG right now |
| 00:19.30 | Bounty | and only 3 out of the 60 or so circles dont work |
| 00:19.41 | Ahli | well, that might be the problem |
| 00:19.45 | Bounty | its ALWAYS something |
| 00:19.48 | Bounty | i dont get it |
| 00:19.57 | Bounty | How Ahli? |
| 00:20.07 | Ahli | maybe that event is limited with regions consisting out of a lot of subregions |
| 00:20.13 | progammer_ | first rule of debugging, its always the most obvious mistake we overlook |
| 00:20.19 | Bounty | If there are about 20-30 circles in this merged region and only 3 are not working... |
| 00:20.44 | Ahli | if you add another one, does it work then? |
| 00:20.49 | Bounty | Ok and since when would there be a limit on that Ahli? |
| 00:20.51 | Ahli | with the new one? |
| 00:20.55 | Bounty | You would think that would be known.... |
| 00:21.02 | Bounty | nope |
| 00:21.03 | Ahli | I don't know how they implemented it... |
| 00:21.06 | Bounty | nothing works lol |
| 00:21.41 | Ahli | might be a bug... ask them, send a map version to deletarius or something :D fix it with multiple regions |
| 00:22.04 | tordy | yeeeea sc2 combined > LoL viewers, eat it LoL |
| 00:22.07 | Bounty | oh and my pulldown box title selection bugs out for every player except me |
| 00:22.12 | Zolden | i think it's not a bug |
| 00:22.14 | Bounty | the count is always off by 1 for everyone except me |
| 00:23.06 | Bounty | i showed it to JademusSreg but of course since its not portrayed in all 0's and 1's he cannot understand it. |
| 00:24.44 | Ahli | does it work for you, if you are using another player slot? |
| 00:25.49 | Bounty | yep |
| 00:26.00 | Bounty | wanna see the Unlock checker? |
| 00:26.19 | Bounty | its what creates the list items for each player based on their level |
| 00:26.28 | Ahli | why not |
| 00:27.41 | Bounty | http://pastebin.com/Gdd4bjpS |
| 00:29.54 | Ahli | which level do you have? |
| 00:30.10 | Bounty | i have 26 |
| 00:30.30 | Ahli | is it intended that you add things for every player? |
| 00:30.52 | Bounty | yeah... they're unlocks |
| 00:30.56 | Ahli | everyone after you has that thing in his pulldown then |
| 00:31.08 | Ahli | most likely before their own things are added |
| 00:32.02 | Bounty | i think i fond it |
| 00:32.04 | Bounty | at the bottom |
| 00:32.07 | Bounty | its added for ALL players |
| 00:32.12 | Ahli | the last 2 things, yes |
| 00:32.13 | Bounty | instead of the specified player |
| 00:32.40 | Bounty | i love how i missed that for the last 2 weeks |
| 00:32.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:33.09 | Ahli | :D |
| 00:33.57 | Bounty | thx |
| 00:34.04 | Bounty | i would not have found it if i didnt show u that |
| 00:34.08 | Bounty | Jade couldnt understand it |
| 00:35.26 | Bounty | and there must be some sort of maximum amount of regions in one region thing |
| 00:35.34 | Bounty | bc it definently destroyed some of my regions |
| 00:35.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:37.04 | Ahli | well, for checking if something is in a region, it works for me with 80+ regions |
| 00:39.35 | Bounty | well i fixed it |
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| 00:39.41 | Bounty | i now just have Synergized Spheres |
| 00:39.44 | Bounty | and Synergized Spheres 2 |
| 00:39.51 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:40.07 | Bounty | the editor was erasing anymore regions i added to the original... |
| 00:57.46 | sharf | I need a little help with this buff lol |
| 01:10.27 | Bounty | Ahli |
| 01:10.38 | Bounty | Do you know if we need to have hots to use the new ragdoll physics? |
| 01:11.00 | Ahli | not sure... I saw someone saying no |
| 01:11.19 | Ahli | but finally flash vs ret started |
| 01:14.46 | Eagles | Hey people, is it bad practice to decide Tower Defense hp/armor/armor type in Triggers instead of Data Editor? |
| 01:14.51 | progammer_ | i believe the physics engine is in WoL, you dont need the license |
| 01:15.35 | Bounty | how do you use it |
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| 01:23.03 | Bounty | nobody knows how to use the ragdoll physics? |
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| 01:26.50 | isunmonkey | hi everybody, i'm still having issues publishing my map to EU as opposed to NA. If anybody can help, I'd greatly appreciate it!!! |
| 01:31.31 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 01:45.09 | Enexy | dsfsfdsf |
| 01:46.39 | isunmonkey | :O |
| 02:02.13 | herolief | widow mine op |
| 02:02.14 | herolief | ;_; |
| 02:02.43 | Ahli | bio OP :D |
| 02:04.53 | herolief | nah... |
| 02:04.59 | herolief | you can deal with bio |
| 02:05.08 | herolief | widow mine two shots an overseer that tries to scout it out |
| 02:05.11 | herolief | zerg has no way to detect |
| 02:05.12 | herolief | completely op |
| 02:05.41 | herolief | remove air attack or greatly reduce vs air damage = good |
| 02:07.00 | Ahli | you can see where the mines are burrowed |
| 02:07.13 | Ahli | so you aren't running into it blindly |
| 02:07.19 | Taintedwisp | Tv is sooo fucking stupid... |
| 02:07.55 | Taintedwisp | Must they REALLY tell people when to laugh -_-, are people that fucking stupid they cant laugh for themselves... |
| 02:09.19 | herolief | You can see them but they kill you as soon as you do |
| 02:09.24 | herolief | And you can't clear them without detection |
| 02:09.32 | herolief | And they destroy detection in groups... |
| 02:09.41 | herolief | It's fine for protoss because observers are cloaked |
| 02:09.52 | herolief | But overseers aren't, they're floating targets with a high priority |
| 02:10.21 | herolief | Terran have scan, Protoss have observers... zerg have nothing |
| 02:10.57 | herolief | Either we need some way to easily detect them without sacrificing expensive units and detectors, or they need the nerf DKim is talking about, regarding splash damage |
| 02:33.59 | sharf_ | zerg have those creep tumors |
| 02:37.47 | herolief | zerg can totally detect with those |
| 02:40.25 | Ahli | take command is used the first time I believe |
| 02:41.59 | Ahli | *recover game |
| 02:46.11 | Ahli | and it failed |
| 02:47.58 | Bounty | Ahli |
| 02:48.03 | Bounty | do you know how to use the ragdoll physics? |
| 02:52.24 | Eagles | How can I open MapScript.galaxy to see where the problem lies in these errors? http://puu.sh/2j1iJ/0e27742568 |
| 02:53.37 | Ahli | didn't look into it yet... so no |
| 02:57.04 | Ahli | mlg f*cked up the recover game making MC observer AND starting the game when he said ready and had the white name color and observer tag |
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| 03:09.53 | Ahli | *function might be bugged according to mlg |
| 03:13.21 | herolief | Eagles, just read them. |
| 03:13.38 | herolief | The first one is telling you that your script/triggers are trying to access an index that isn't possible for that array. |
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| 03:22.07 | progammer | the galaxy file is generated by the trigger, if you only have access to the trigger, just try to find it in that trigger: InitGlobals |
| 03:27.51 | Ahli | http://i.imgur.com/dKABoX5.jpg mlg fail :) |
| 03:28.32 | progammer | ya once one of them is obs, they can see everything |
| 03:28.39 | progammer | did they remake that game lol ? |
| 03:29.07 | Ahli | they used the function again I believe |
| 03:29.15 | Ahli | or used take command or something |
| 03:29.28 | Ahli | but MC says ready as a white observer -.- |
| 03:30.20 | progammer | i just realized another easter eggs |
| 03:30.33 | progammer | the 5 different colored predator in the infester mission |
| 03:30.36 | progammer | they're the power ranger |
| 03:31.02 | Ahli | didnt notice them :o |
| 03:31.29 | progammer | ill get a screenshot up and post to the thread |
| 03:33.14 | Ahli | cant find the easteregg thread o0 |
| 03:36.22 | progammer | crap, they are all read in the editor view, gotta play that map |
| 03:36.33 | progammer | they must have a trigger to tint them 5 different color |
| 03:36.37 | progammer | red* |
| 03:43.30 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 03:49.03 | Bounty | pew pew |
| 03:49.05 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 03:49.08 | Bounty | the mode works :) |
| 03:49.11 | Bounty | so HA |
| 03:49.17 | Bounty | and, hows dat load screen? the game is done |
| 03:50.10 | JademusSreg | I had a nap. =D |
| 03:50.25 | JademusSreg | But am getting back to work on it, no worries. |
| 03:55.22 | Bounty | I am very excited to see it |
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| 03:57.51 | progammer | the power rangers http://imgur.com/ZLltRkz |
| 04:01.47 | Ahli | indeed http://i.snag.gy/M2Fqy.jpg |
| 04:03.05 | Bounty | Looks like i'm going to be on Wednesday Night Sprites |
| 04:03.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:03.20 | JademusSreg | What is that? |
| 04:03.23 | Bounty | Bounty's first live appearance |
| 04:04.05 | Bounty | the twitch show that Blizzard supports and that ChanmanV, Livinpink, temp and EGmachine host every wednesday about the Arcade |
| 04:04.24 | Bounty | it was on the HoTS launch event stream to and they mentioned me AGAIN |
| 04:04.29 | Bounty | for like the 30th time |
| 04:05.20 | progammer | your name is a proper english word, i understand |
| 04:05.43 | JademusSreg | I consistently forget that exists. |
| 04:05.56 | Ahli | yay, when? |
| 04:06.02 | Bounty | No idea what you just said progammer |
| 04:06.03 | Ahli | will watch it :D |
| 04:06.19 | Bounty | As of right now, not next week but the following |
| 04:06.36 | Bounty | Going to be hard to control my doucheness |
| 04:07.07 | Bounty | But from what i saw of how the show was with the previous map makers they had on, it shouldnt take much effort to outshine them |
| 04:07.20 | progammer | i mean an English word have a high chance of being accidentally mentioned by someone |
| 04:07.46 | Bounty | Actually they forgot my name on the HoTS stream |
| 04:07.51 | Bounty | they just mentioned all of my games |
| 04:07.52 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:08.20 | Bounty | and they thought i made Mass Destruction 2 alongside all of my other stuff, they think i make everything |
| 04:09.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I'll redraft the jokes about you in the loading screen to suggest you invented hopscotch and shit. |
| 04:09.34 | Bounty | haha |
| 04:10.28 | Bounty | I love how people think i made everything great and simultaneously dont know my name |
| 04:11.06 | Ahli | inb4 bounty puts its name everywhere in his maps |
| 04:11.19 | Bounty | Close |
| 04:11.26 | Bounty | I am going to advertise the shit out of my bnet group |
| 04:11.31 | Bounty | Bounty's Arcade Games :) |
| 04:11.41 | Bounty | put that on the loading screen JademusSreg |
| 04:11.45 | Bounty | somewhere |
| 04:13.06 | JademusSreg | I'll tell Captain Zealotron you also made Ultimate Frisby, Big Motha Truckas, Milo, Aliens: Colonial Marines, and Diablo 5. |
| 04:14.07 | Bounty | interesting |
| 04:14.33 | Ahli | don't forget farming simulator |
| 04:14.38 | JademusSreg | Shit, of course. |
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| 04:14.47 | Bounty | but seriosuly |
| 04:14.49 | JademusSreg | Also, Bounty, you need an emblem. |
| 04:14.51 | Bounty | dont forget the group |
| 04:14.57 | Bounty | emblem? |
| 04:15.14 | ThunderLord | is there i way to set the mouse image when you hover over a certain unit??? |
| 04:15.36 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Burrito dentata is my emblem. People see its creepy tortilla mouth and know I'm involved. |
| 04:15.48 | Bounty | lol that is true |
| 04:15.57 | JademusSreg | Thund, isn't that defined in the actor? |
| 04:16.06 | Bounty | also JademusSreg |
| 04:16.20 | ThunderLord | i thought it was, i vaugely remember seeing somthing like that, but i just went looking and cant find it |
| 04:16.22 | Bounty | Dont forget the damn group name AND how the hell do you do ragdoll physics |
| 04:16.26 | Bounty | I wanna add it into Photon Synergy haha |
| 04:16.30 | Bounty | when you die you go flying |
| 04:17.17 | JademusSreg | I don't have HotS. Well, I have all the data extracted, so I could figure it out, but can't test it (probably). |
| 04:17.40 | Bounty | you need HOTS to use it? |
| 04:18.44 | JademusSreg | The physics-related data is available, but it appears the WoL client isn't making use of it. |
| 04:19.03 | JademusSreg | Could be that the physics primitives are simply missing. |
| 04:19.36 | Bounty | well i dont plan on getting hots so |
| 04:19.40 | Bounty | that sucks |
| 04:19.41 | Bounty | lol |
| 04:20.53 | JademusSreg | Saw physics primitives in the HotS data, so perhaps WoL has it enabled, but the important shit is missing. Can't be certain without testing. |
| 04:21.19 | WormJuice | JademusSreg, what is your poinion of Taintedwisp? |
| 04:22.52 | JademusSreg | Earlier, tested the undocumented native PlayerOptionOverride, which takes strings arguments that correspond directly to varlist options from the Console, but the devs limited the permitted arguments to the exact 17 allowed in the GUI. |
| 04:26.16 | Taintedwisp | 12 missions on brutal completed today :) |
| 04:26.23 | Taintedwisp | tomorrow 6-8 more :P |
| 04:27.44 | JademusSreg | My opinion is that people shouldn't concern themselves with personalities that effectively exist only on the internet. Here, we are all incorporeal, genderless intellects in an orgy of exchange and activity. |
| 04:28.12 | Taintedwisp | <---- not an actual human |
| 04:28.19 | Taintedwisp | I am the newest in troll bot software |
| 04:28.35 | JademusSreg | True.dat |
| 04:28.36 | JademusSreg | brb |
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| 04:29.51 | Taintedwisp | I assure you I am a man on the internet aswell :P |
| 04:29.54 | isunmonkey | hai everybody |
| 04:30.05 | Taintedwisp | Hey |
| 04:30.12 | Taintedwisp | dr.nick |
| 04:30.14 | isunmonkey | I still can't figure out how to publish onto EU server!!! |
| 04:30.17 | isunmonkey | :(( |
| 04:30.25 | Taintedwisp | try harder? |
| 04:30.48 | isunmonkey | haha |
| 04:30.50 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/45674-tutorial-global-publishing-to-all-locales/ |
| 04:30.51 | isunmonkey | :( |
| 04:30.53 | Taintedwisp | try that |
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| 04:31.43 | isunmonkey | I think the rules for global publishing have changed since HotS release |
| 04:31.58 | isunmonkey | or the **parameters required |
| 04:32.04 | Taintedwisp | read the 3rd post before starting isunmonkey |
| 04:32.04 | iMisu | sup dudes |
| 04:32.23 | Taintedwisp | brb 2 minutes |
| 04:32.44 | isunmonkey | 3rd post? |
| 04:32.45 | progammer | im 81% campaign achievement now |
| 04:32.51 | Taintedwisp | Isunmonkey you can always do like I do, just say fuck everyone whos not amurikan |
| 04:32.52 | isunmonkey | wow progammer |
| 04:33.01 | iMisu | does anyone have a shareable legit photoshop key |
| 04:33.04 | isunmonkey | progammer you beat on brutal? |
| 04:33.12 | Taintedwisp | nice progammer(keep seeing programmar), I am at 76% myself |
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| 04:33.14 | isunmonkey | iMisu just crack dat yo!!! |
| 04:33.17 | progammer | im always an achievement whore |
| 04:33.21 | progammer | brutal is not that hard |
| 04:33.26 | Taintedwisp | i got most of them on hard |
| 04:33.29 | isunmonkey | brutal was pretty easy |
| 04:33.29 | iMisu | i am a firm believer against that stuff |
| 04:33.30 | Taintedwisp | Brutal is like WoL hard |
| 04:33.38 | isunmonkey | but probably because i main z |
| 04:33.41 | Taintedwisp | Wol brutal == SC BW |
| 04:33.46 | isunmonkey | i really liked this campaign though |
| 04:33.47 | isunmonkey | gotta say |
| 04:33.50 | Taintedwisp | I main Protoss |
| 04:34.04 | Taintedwisp | but I only like playing Team Ladder :P solos are boring |
| 04:34.06 | isunmonkey | especially the missions where i got to choose new strains of various units |
| 04:34.12 | Taintedwisp | Every stratagy is too set... |
| 04:34.16 | progammer | only got mastery and some kerrigan combat stuff left, now mastery are the one i consider actually hard |
| 04:34.25 | isunmonkey | taintedwisp!!!! you gotta 1v1!!! |
| 04:34.33 | Taintedwisp | 1v1 sucks... |
| 04:34.34 | isunmonkey | your team games are all balanced based on 1v1!!! |
| 04:34.35 | Taintedwisp | its boring |
| 04:34.39 | isunmonkey | no way!!! |
| 04:34.42 | Taintedwisp | Yes way... |
| 04:34.48 | isunmonkey | I mostly play 2v2 |
| 04:34.53 | isunmonkey | but I play like 40% 1v1 |
| 04:34.55 | Taintedwisp | its stupid, why 1v1... I like playing team games :P |
| 04:35.01 | isunmonkey | team games infuriate me |
| 04:35.08 | isunmonkey | especially when my teammate is bad |
| 04:35.09 | Taintedwisp | Team games are amazing if you get a good team |
| 04:35.14 | Taintedwisp | but suck when teammates suck |
| 04:35.15 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 04:35.29 | Taintedwisp | I coordinate my team so we actually win most of the time :P |
| 04:35.35 | Taintedwisp | usually I play with my brothers though |
| 04:35.36 | isunmonkey | Q: is burrow researchable before spawning pool?! |
| 04:35.44 | Taintedwisp | yes isunmonkey |
| 04:35.46 | progammer | i dont think so |
| 04:35.49 | isunmonkey | that's brilliant |
| 04:35.53 | isunmonkey | why no programers use during MLG??!?#!?#!?! |
| 04:35.57 | progammer | then again i dont main zerg |
| 04:36.07 | isunmonkey | seems like a lot of neat plays possible |
| 04:36.11 | Taintedwisp | why would you get burron before Spawning pool |
| 04:36.12 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 04:36.14 | progammer | you still need gas, which is pointless |
| 04:36.15 | Taintedwisp | that makes no sense |
| 04:36.22 | iMisu | I am using a new irc, can some one say my name i wana see the response it gives |
| 04:36.30 | progammer | he want to burrow drone |
| 04:36.38 | Taintedwisp | if you get the early burrow or speed Overlords your stupid... all you do is delay lair.... |
| 04:36.40 | progammer | iMisu you are wonderful |
| 04:36.42 | isunmonkey | burrow in case of reapers for drones |
| 04:36.46 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 04:36.48 | Taintedwisp | meh |
| 04:36.49 | iMisu | doesn't do anything! |
| 04:36.56 | Taintedwisp | I can get zerglings out before Reapers |
| 04:37.05 | isunmonkey | idk |
| 04:37.11 | Taintedwisp | not hard to Stop any reaper |
| 04:37.11 | isunmonkey | burrow so useful |
| 04:37.13 | isunmonkey | force scans et etc |
| 04:37.18 | Taintedwisp | Just 2 prong and stick them in minerals |
| 04:37.26 | isunmonkey | but then you can 3 base without worrying :P |
| 04:37.42 | Taintedwisp | meh |
| 04:37.44 | Taintedwisp | I am good |
| 04:37.50 | isunmonkey | seems like neat plays possible; i'm not good enough to know though |
| 04:37.56 | Taintedwisp | Then again I am just gold-plat in 1v1s so meh |
| 04:38.00 | isunmonkey | dude |
| 04:38.05 | Taintedwisp | Team games have much more interesting stratagy. |
| 04:38.06 | isunmonkey | what about burrowing to preven walloff? |
| 04:38.17 | isunmonkey | or burrowing to prevent expansion early? |
| 04:38.26 | Taintedwisp | that burrow Research isnt going to beat the walloff |
| 04:38.36 | isunmonkey | it could beat wall off at natural |
| 04:39.11 | Taintedwisp | early expo, maybe, but not really they will just take it to their third or grab early detection, which if they are terran or zerg is completely useless because they will have lair with overseers quicker |
| 04:39.22 | Taintedwisp | YOu MIGHT be able to force them to quick tech instead of early expand but thats abou tit |
| 04:39.30 | iMisu | Chat test |
| 04:39.37 | iMisu | Progammer |
| 04:39.40 | Taintedwisp | i see you imisu |
| 04:39.40 | iMisu | Say my name again |
| 04:39.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:39.45 | iMisu | .... |
| 04:39.49 | Taintedwisp | imisu |
| 04:39.51 | iMisu | Its not making my name red |
| 04:39.56 | Taintedwisp | soh |
| 04:39.58 | progammer | funny, i just realized that the 1st mission have no briefing screen, and the only way to hear it is to replay it |
| 04:40.04 | Taintedwisp | Hadnt scrolled down just saw the top part |
| 04:40.46 | *** join/#sc2mapster iMisu (~misu.emai@173-166-230-6-sacramento.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 04:41.02 | iMisu | Okay |
| 04:41.03 | isunmonkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1oLypjTKns |
| 04:41.07 | progammer | still spamming iMisu ? |
| 04:41.08 | iMisu | Now say my name |
| 04:41.13 | isunmonkey | been whistling this all day |
| 04:41.13 | iMisu | Lame |
| 04:41.18 | isunmonkey | girlfriend mad |
| 04:41.21 | iMisu | I don't know whats wrong with it |
| 04:41.56 | iMisu | test |
| 04:44.08 | iMisu | $nick 1 |
| 04:44.52 | iMisu | I like it but now i chose different irc client |
| 04:45.17 | iMisu | mirc is dumb |
| 04:45.20 | iMisu | I want something better |
| 04:46.12 | JademusSreg | Also tested adding a bunch of arbitrary tags to a Frame type UI frame, and the editor complained. Next test, once I finish Bounty's loading screen, will be on the accessability of subframes created by dialog controls from templates. |
| 04:47.04 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 04:48.05 | herolief | iMisu, why not hexchat? |
| 04:48.45 | iMisu | Looking for something that can match my windows theme |
| 04:49.21 | herolief | hexchat does |
| 04:49.47 | iMisu | looks terrible >.< |
| 04:49.58 | herolief | it's customizable, you know... |
| 04:50.29 | iMisu | http://www.thrashirc.com/ |
| 04:50.30 | herolief | also the main screenshot uses a fucking awful theme |
| 04:50.37 | iMisu | This is what I am using now |
| 04:50.40 | herolief | the main windows 8 theme with a terrible color scheme |
| 04:50.42 | herolief | and awful fonts |
| 04:50.46 | iMisu | I just want it to beable to make a sound |
| 04:50.47 | herolief | you can make it look far better with simple tweaks |
| 04:50.49 | iMisu | When my name is said |
| 04:51.08 | iMisu | I am sure i can set this to do it but I can't find out how. |
| 04:56.05 | isunmonkey | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjVGJ3YFDc8 |
| 04:56.14 | isunmonkey | actually impressive |
| 04:56.18 | herolief | Works in hexchat iirc |
| 04:56.32 | iMisu | Don't paste garbage in our irc |
| 04:58.42 | isunmonkey | k sorry :( |
| 04:59.02 | iMisu | lolol |
| 04:59.06 | iMisu | restarting irc |
| 04:59.13 | iMisu | Think i made a simple script with tutorial |
| 04:59.29 | *** join/#sc2mapster iMisu (~misu.emai@173-166-230-6-sacramento.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 04:59.35 | iMisu | k say my name ? |
| 05:00.21 | isunmonkey | iMisu |
| 05:00.26 | iMisu | haha cute |
| 05:00.34 | iMisu | little birdy chirp chirp |
| 05:00.35 | iMisu | D: |
| 05:00.52 | progammer | to keep this less spammy you can use another nick and call your other nick's name |
| 05:00.52 | isunmonkey | Question: what does the tutorial mean by "You now must copy your enUS.SC2Data folder for each locale, and rename each folder to match each local. This will copy your game strings and text into the other languages. |
| 05:01.32 | isunmonkey | Am I supposed to copy the content of the enUS folder and paste that into each other folder? |
| 05:01.33 | iMisu | C:\Program Files (x86)\StarCraft II\Mods |
| 05:01.36 | progammer | i think that tutorial is somewhat outdated, you can manage your locals in the editor now |
| 05:01.37 | iMisu | or |
| 05:01.40 | isunmonkey | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/45674-tutorial-global-publishing-to-all-locales/ |
| 05:01.45 | iMisu | C:\Program Files (x86)\StarCraft II\Updates |
| 05:01.55 | isunmonkey | How do I manage my locals in the editor?!?!? |
| 05:02.01 | progammer | isunmonkey not that folder, its the folder inside your map if you open it with a mpq editor |
| 05:02.03 | isunmonkey | iMisu, working on a mac :( |
| 05:02.12 | iMisu | No, I am windows |
| 05:02.38 | isunmonkey | then who is rock? |
| 05:02.47 | iMisu | BRB |
| 05:02.51 | iMisu | One more quick change |
| 05:02.55 | *** part/#sc2mapster iMisu (~misu.emai@173-166-230-6-sacramento.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 05:03.11 | *** join/#sc2mapster iMisu (~misu.emai@173-166-230-6-sacramento.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 05:03.54 | isunmonkey | wait, what's mpq editor? |
| 05:04.53 | iMisu | thats a tool used to open blizzards zip files |
| 05:05.03 | iMisu | http://www.zezula.net/en/mpq/download.html |
| 05:05.38 | isunmonkey | not for mac :, ( |
| 05:05.47 | iMisu | http://imgur.com/N7kr6Uu |
| 05:06.53 | iMisu | http://www.devklog.net/2007/02/09/mpq-extractor-10/ |
| 05:06.58 | iMisu | mac mpq editor |
| 05:07.23 | iMisu | I used to use a mac, then I decided to get a real computer |
| 05:08.11 | progammer | look for ladik's mpq editor |
| 05:08.55 | iMisu | Is there any way to setup an auto sync to imgur? |
| 05:09.59 | iMisu | like active web page desktop -> imgur ? |
| 05:10.57 | isunmonkey | bleh i don't understand enough leet speak to publish this danged map to EU |
| 05:11.07 | iMisu | lol |
| 05:11.26 | isunmonkey | i am sad |
| 05:11.32 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2rGTXHvPCQ |
| 05:11.35 | progammer | then dont need to follow that outdated tutorial, use the locals manager in the editor |
| 05:13.16 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7oGk-ozhKI |
| 05:13.20 | iMisu | Hilarious asian troll |
| 05:15.25 | isunmonkey | http://i.imgur.com/08DKdHP.png |
| 05:15.35 | isunmonkey | which of these do I select to publish to EU?!?!?! |
| 05:15.50 | iMisu | GB ? |
| 05:16.25 | iMisu | GB is great brit |
| 05:16.32 | A1win | you don't need an MPQ editor for it, just enable the enGB locale in the map locales |
| 05:16.37 | isunmonkey | ok :) |
| 05:16.49 | iMisu | Yeah thought GB was eu |
| 05:17.01 | A1win | it'll copy the locale from your current locale |
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| 05:17.36 | A1win | Map - Locales - Modify Locales |
| 05:17.55 | A1win | *Locale - |
| 05:17.58 | Reaperguyver | How do I set a player number to a slot in the lobby but still allow the player to change slots? |
| 05:18.15 | A1win | you don't, you need to manage them in-game in some way |
| 05:18.23 | Reaperguyver | crsp >.< |
| 05:18.28 | Reaperguyver | *crap. |
| 05:18.43 | A1win | there's a Players On Team function of player group type |
| 05:18.52 | Reaperguyver | I tried that and it's still not working properly = / |
| 05:18.58 | Reaperguyver | oh? |
| 05:19.04 | Reaperguyver | Okay I'll look there I guess. |
| 05:19.29 | A1win | it's often better to split players into teams in the game instead of the lobby though, the lobby still isn't very good |
| 05:20.18 | Reaperguyver | hhmmm = / |
| 05:20.41 | Reaperguyver | I think I messed up a trigger somewhere but I'm not sure where. |
| 05:20.58 | Reaperguyver | It partially doing what I need it do but not the other part. |
| 05:22.20 | Reaperguyver | Here I'll show what i have if that's okay. |
| 05:23.30 | Reaperguyver | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.36 | Reaperguyver | man that's ugly |
| 05:23.39 | Reaperguyver | lemme do this again. |
| 05:23.51 | Reaperguyver | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:23.59 | Reaperguyver | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.06 | isunmonkey | is anybody on the EU server that can help me by searching for my game in the arcade? |
| 05:24.18 | Reaperguyver | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.30 | Reaperguyver | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:24.37 | Reaperguyver | It's not doing the else part... |
| 05:25.43 | progammer | please use paste, dont copy it to irc, and its easier for us to read |
| 05:25.58 | A1win | (he means pastebin.com or similar) |
| 05:26.13 | Reaperguyver | O.o? |
| 05:26.19 | Reaperguyver | never even heard of that. |
| 05:26.29 | A1win | now you have |
| 05:26.46 | progammer | or this too :) http://www.sc2mapster.com/paste/ |
| 05:26.50 | isunmonkey | anybody here on EU server |
| 05:26.51 | isunmonkey | ? |
| 05:27.18 | A1win | I am |
| 05:27.51 | isunmonkey | Can you check the arcade to see if my game is published there? |
| 05:27.56 | isunmonkey | It's called: Monkey BOT |
| 05:28.35 | A1win | doesn't seem so |
| 05:28.48 | Reaperguyver | http://pastebin.com/tmnPDDKJ |
| 05:29.38 | A1win | what's the problem with that? |
| 05:30.17 | Reaperguyver | It's not doing the else part properly. |
| 05:30.27 | Reaperguyver | Basically it's just doing part one. |
| 05:30.28 | isunmonkey | Its not showing up?? |
| 05:30.36 | progammer | also what is west team ? player group variable ? |
| 05:30.45 | A1win | if statements only do one part, that's their point |
| 05:31.02 | A1win | it does "then" if conditions are met and "else" if they are not |
| 05:31.02 | Reaperguyver | yeah it is a player group vairable... I think. |
| 05:31.19 | Reaperguyver | Well if it came back as false shouldn't it spawn the unit somewhere else? |
| 05:31.31 | A1win | your condition is "1 is in West Team" which can only be true or false, not both |
| 05:31.40 | Reaperguyver | Right. |
| 05:31.52 | A1win | are you testing it on arcade or from editor? |
| 05:32.01 | progammer | test with 2 cases, where if is true and when if is false, if it always do the if part, then your condition needs checking |
| 05:32.03 | Reaperguyver | So if I am player one and move to team 2 (not west.) It should do the else right? |
| 05:32.07 | Reaperguyver | Arcade |
| 05:32.28 | A1win | yeah, I'd suspect your "West Team" is not set up correctly then |
| 05:32.53 | Reaperguyver | Perhaps. Another trigger that calls for me to be on west team does work properly and it's set up the same. |
| 05:33.18 | A1win | but is it se up before that part of the trigger is executed |
| 05:33.32 | A1win | hmm |
| 05:33.36 | Reaperguyver | Yes. Seperate trigger. |
| 05:33.44 | A1win | also, you use "player 1", what if you're not player 1 when you're testing in the other team? |
| 05:33.52 | A1win | or is it still doing the first part |
| 05:33.58 | A1win | when you're in the other team |
| 05:34.18 | Reaperguyver | http://pastebin.com/Z2ssVygz |
| 05:34.47 | A1win | umm, that might still get executed before the other trigger |
| 05:34.47 | Reaperguyver | as far as I could tell if I am the first player to join than I am always player 1. |
| 05:34.50 | A1win | if they use the same event |
| 05:35.34 | A1win | you should use only one "Map Initialization" event if you need stuff to happen in a specific order |
| 05:36.11 | *** part/#sc2mapster Ahli (~qqqq@dslb-188-101-191-098.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:36.18 | A1win | err nvm, I thought that was the same trigger |
| 05:36.31 | A1win | dunno, your setup seems weird ;p |
| 05:36.45 | A1win | and we haven't seen all the necessary info |
| 05:36.49 | Reaperguyver | lol I had someone look at my map a few years ago before I gave up on it. |
| 05:36.57 | A1win | we don't know where that team is defined and how |
| 05:37.00 | Reaperguyver | and they said my triggers are a mess. |
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| 05:37.09 | Reaperguyver | ah. |
| 05:37.50 | Reaperguyver | uhhh I used the map -> team placement (Advanced) to define the teams (East and west.) |
| 05:38.12 | A1win | oh, I've never used that, dunno if/how it works |
| 05:38.16 | Reaperguyver | Should I just do it manually through triggers? |
| 05:38.22 | A1win | probably |
| 05:38.27 | Reaperguyver | okay I'll just used trigegrs/variables than. |
| 05:38.29 | Reaperguyver | Thanks lol. |
| 05:38.36 | Reaperguyver | Sorry for all the trouble I caused. |
| 05:41.56 | Reaperguyver | lol derp. I assigned players to teams after that trigger. >.< |
| 05:50.12 | progammer | man this achievement is actually quite hard |
| 05:50.19 | progammer | Premature Evacuation: Destroy all Dominion Structures in the “Rendezvous” mission before Naktul’s brood arrives on Hard difficulty. |
| 05:50.37 | progammer | all i got is zergling vs a bazzillion marine |
| 05:53.03 | Reaperguyver | Do it after you finish the game you have acess to move stuff. |
| 05:53.05 | Reaperguyver | and B |
| 05:53.09 | Reaperguyver | Use an overlord |
| 05:53.19 | Reaperguyver | There are 2 hidden missle turrets you can't see without a flyer |
| 05:53.26 | Reaperguyver | eeerrr |
| 05:53.29 | Reaperguyver | derp |
| 05:53.29 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 05:53.31 | Reaperguyver | queens |
| 05:53.34 | Reaperguyver | queens and lings |
| 05:53.46 | Reaperguyver | don't forget to head into the left base from the right. |
| 05:54.32 | Reaperguyver | http://pastebin.com/f8uHKftM |
| 05:54.36 | Reaperguyver | Does that seem right? |
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| 05:59.47 | nooblark | reaper |
| 05:59.52 | nooblark | what is that code for? it's so useless |
| 06:00.17 | Reaperguyver | To assign players to a team? |
| 06:01.01 | nooblark | why do you do it every .001 seconds? |
| 06:01.07 | Reaperguyver | or is that not the proper way to do it.? |
| 06:01.10 | nooblark | and it's only for 1 player. |
| 06:01.18 | Reaperguyver | So it happens before anyone can click on anything. |
| 06:01.27 | nooblark | do it at map initialization |
| 06:01.33 | Reaperguyver | I added more I just wanted ot make sure that it seemed right before I added everyone else. |
| 06:01.42 | nooblark | you can also do it all in one loop |
| 06:01.50 | Reaperguyver | I suppose. |
| 06:01.55 | Reaperguyver | I turned it off after that. |
| 06:02.11 | Reaperguyver | I just wasn't sure if I could just do triggering player or not but in the end it didn't matter. |
| 06:02.16 | nooblark | mmk, was a suggestion before going to bed :P |
| 06:02.40 | nooblark | if they are in east/west team in lobby, there's no need to redefine it in game |
| 06:03.05 | Reaperguyver | That's what i thought but apparently I need to anyhow >.< |
| 06:03.12 | Reaperguyver | So i can allow players to change teams. |
| 06:03.31 | JademusSreg | That would also add player 1 to the east team if it was a non user. =\ |
| 06:03.48 | nooblark | and programmer, in case you see this: yes, that achievemnt is fuking hard. tried once, i had a few buildings on the right left at the timer expiration, but i had no chance of getting it |
| 06:04.04 | Reaperguyver | I used a video on youtube to help. |
| 06:04.11 | Reaperguyver | true, |
| 06:04.34 | Reaperguyver | Nooblark I thought so too but I have a trigegr that calls for that east/west crap and it doesn't work properly. |
| 06:05.44 | JademusSreg | Does your map use lobby teams? Because Players on Team N returns a playergroup, so you don't need to add players to playergroups if you intend to use lobby teams. |
| 06:06.26 | Reaperguyver | I tried to use lobby teams I think. |
| 06:07.41 | Reaperguyver | I basically have no idea wtf I'm doing and I think I'm doing this right lol. |
| 06:08.21 | JademusSreg | Evenet: Map Init; Actions: Variable Set - West Team = Players on team 1, Variable Set - East Team = Players on team 2 |
| 06:08.52 | progammer | ill try to do that last. cant go kill their base without being constantly attacked, thinking of using offensive crawler for once |
| 06:09.04 | Reaperguyver | lol I knew my triggers were bad but not that bad I really did this a hard ass bakwards way ty. |
| 06:09.14 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 06:09.21 | Reaperguyver | Crawler works also. |
| 06:10.33 | Enexy | anybody here? |
| 06:11.58 | Reaperguyver | I am. |
| 06:12.04 | Enexy | Mind testing... something? |
| 06:12.05 | Enexy | :) |
| 06:12.09 | Reaperguyver | I doubt I'll be helpfull but I can tell you how not to do it. |
| 06:12.19 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 06:12.26 | Enexy | I need you to download my program and then join my map |
| 06:12.30 | Enexy | and see if we can talk to each other |
| 06:13.16 | JademusSreg | SC2 has a mic feature. And chat. And there is Vent, Skype, et cetera. |
| 06:13.24 | Enexy | thanks rofl |
| 06:13.45 | Enexy | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/49567-dynamic-content-possible/?page=3#p42 |
| 06:13.53 | Reaperguyver | if I remember right the mic feature on sc2 wasn't that great. = / |
| 06:13.54 | Enexy | download this and run it if anyone wants to help me plz |
| 06:17.17 | JademusSreg | Ah, I see. |
| 06:18.02 | JademusSreg | .NET or C++ or other? |
| 06:18.10 | iMisu | Enexy, why does it want to write registry keys? |
| 06:18.10 | Enexy | .net C# |
| 06:18.21 | Enexy | registry keys? It shouldn't rofl |
| 06:20.23 | Enexy | dunno why map is not starting... just keeps saying waiting for players |
| 06:20.28 | Enexy | on a 1 player map... |
| 06:20.38 | iMisu | thats cause blizzard doesn't make enough money |
| 06:20.58 | A1win | disable the "hide lobby" option in map properties |
| 06:21.16 | iMisu | no a1, don't say that |
| 06:21.20 | iMisu | its cause of blizzard |
| 06:21.22 | iMisu | always |
| 06:22.13 | Enexy | so... |
| 06:22.15 | Enexy | anyone wanna help me? XD |
| 06:22.28 | iMisu | I was going to until it wanted to write registry keys |
| 06:22.36 | Enexy | what's the message you get |
| 06:22.39 | Enexy | I dunno why you get that lol |
| 06:23.24 | iMisu | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows |
| 06:23.28 | iMisu | can't see the rest of it |
| 06:23.35 | iMisu | HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Run |
| 06:23.41 | Enexy | I have no idea why, oh well lol |
| 06:23.42 | iMisu | the rest of it is cut off |
| 06:25.47 | JademusSreg | takes a peek with .NET Reflector. |
| 06:27.19 | Enexy | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:27.29 | Enexy | but still can't really test it without someone else :( |
| 06:28.59 | JademusSreg | I'm busy, but I may assist later, once I've gone though the code a bit more. |
| 06:29.29 | iMisu | cali determined that lack of health care in prison is cruel |
| 06:30.02 | iMisu | .... im sorry but... if you murder 5 children and their mother im pretty sure you should suffer in a hole without food and water until death. |
| 06:30.39 | JademusSreg | Doesn't appear to be anything malign. =D |
| 06:30.49 | iMisu | You shouldn't even be allowed to read in prison |
| 06:31.01 | iMisu | you should sit and do nothing the entire time you are there. |
| 06:31.19 | iMisu | no cards, no books, no tv, NOTHING! |
| 06:31.31 | Enexy | anyone here without a paranoia willing to help? |
| 06:31.39 | Enexy | 5 minutes? |
| 06:32.18 | JademusSreg | Not paranoid, just inexhaustably curious and generally cautious. =D |
| 06:32.55 | iMisu | I double clicked it, the second I saw request access to registry i was like.. um no thankx lol |
| 06:32.57 | iMisu | sorry Enexy |
| 06:33.24 | JademusSreg | Enex, I could test in an hour. |
| 06:33.40 | iMisu | To keep some one in prison for life after age 25, cost 4 million dollars |
| 06:33.44 | iMisu | .............................. |
| 06:34.24 | A1win | after I set camera data to a player, how do I reset the camera to those values? |
| 06:35.17 | A1win | applying default game camera does nothing |
| 06:35.59 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 06:37.15 | Enexy | evil cameras |
| 06:37.25 | JademusSreg | (Neat idea with the banks, btw, though the utility is dubious. =D ) |
| 06:37.54 | Enexy | yeah maybe |
| 06:38.03 | Enexy | I think it'll have good implications |
| 06:38.12 | Enexy | Just global chat is a great feature in itself |
| 06:38.31 | Enexy | global statistics is even better, real time ones |
| 06:38.38 | Enexy | which is easier to implement |
| 06:38.40 | JademusSreg | (Fair point. Users don't want a balkanized internet.) |
| 06:38.53 | Enexy | What do those parantheses mean |
| 06:39.20 | JademusSreg | (Means I am "away", which is to say at keyboard but doing other shit.) |
| 06:39.28 | Enexy | oh ok |
| 06:39.46 | Enexy | Jademus, I'm gonna ask you to stop making me go to dictionary.com |
| 06:40.07 | Enexy | Speak enrigsh plz |
| 06:40.18 | JademusSreg | (Hah.) |
| 06:40.21 | Enexy | lol :) |
| 06:40.49 | Enexy | I guess I'll just update this to respond faster... |
| 06:40.54 | Enexy | brb I suppose |
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| 06:41.11 | A1win | how do I get a unit to use run animation instead of walk when moving? |
| 06:41.45 | Enexy | I don't know, but I know if you set a unit's turn rate extremely slow, he'll start walking backwards instead of anything and will retain his last turn rate |
| 06:41.53 | Enexy | moonwalking that is |
| 06:43.01 | A1win | nvm, didn't notice the run was its default animation and this actor makes it use a walk animation using actor messages <.< |
| 06:43.02 | Reaperguyver | gah so many triggers I have to fudge with now that I'm allowing players to be on either side >.< |
| 06:45.49 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2oZWpqtNi4 |
| 06:48.53 | sharf | crazy mother fucker |
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| 06:51.36 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY344Xb_2fI |
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| 07:15.01 | A1win | why does camera flip weirdly when its angle jumps from -180 to 180 <.< |
| 07:18.27 | A1win | how can I get a camera to smoothly rotate in full circles? |
| 07:18.31 | ThunderLord | is there a good reason why my banks are not able to be loaded from each test to the next? if im doing tests in the editor will it still store banks |
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| 07:18.59 | ThunderLord | A1win, isnt camera yaw 0-360? |
| 07:19.41 | A1win | unit facing angles are -180 - 180, and seems camera yaw can be between those too |
| 07:20.02 | A1win | or maybe I need to convert the unit facing angle to 0-360.. |
| 07:20.28 | ThunderLord | test 0-360 make sure that is correct way to handle yaw |
| 07:20.33 | ThunderLord | ... starcraft angles are weird |
| 07:22.41 | A1win | now it flips at 0 <-> 360 -.- |
| 07:23.10 | A1win | err, my trigger is probably just wrong |
| 07:24.58 | ThunderLord | do i have to load banks at initialization? |
| 07:26.45 | A1win | yeah |
| 07:27.02 | A1win | and you can't use variables when loading |
| 07:29.54 | ThunderLord | when loading i use last opened bank rite? |
| 07:30.47 | ThunderLord | like.... its like my banks reset everytime i loadup a new game... at the end of 1 test i do a debug to tell me how many sections are in the bank and then i run it again at the start of the next test and i get 0 |
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| 07:31.38 | twodie | derp derp derp |
| 07:33.29 | ThunderLord | ugh, banks a stupid... ill figure it out some other day... |
| 07:39.15 | Enexy | thunderlord - yes you do |
| 07:39.18 | Enexy | Open them at init |
| 07:39.41 | Enexy | make sure you also save banks |
| 07:39.52 | Enexy | for example, player quits game --> save bank |
| 07:40.00 | iMisu | he's gone mang |
| 07:40.04 | Enexy | liar |
| 07:46.18 | iMisu | i'm gone too mang |
| 07:51.39 | Ownage | for stuff you're writing to a lot like kill counts on a mass game, are you guys using records or data whatever |
| 07:52.01 | iMisu | vars |
| 07:52.51 | iMisu | im out.. 1am here |
| 07:53.16 | Ownage | 2am here |
| 07:53.20 | Ownage | and I just woke up :) |
| 07:53.23 | Enexy | cross chat success :) |
| 07:53.29 | Enexy | global updates np np |
| 07:53.48 | A1win | ah now the rotation works, was using min and max functions wrong <.< |
| 07:58.43 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 07:58.48 | twodie | 0132 |
| 07:59.01 | Reaperguyver | Stupid question... What's a no fly zone for? |
| 07:59.14 | twodie | it really is stupid |
| 07:59.22 | twodie | for flying units not to pass |
| 07:59.28 | twodie | blocker for flying units |
| 07:59.38 | A1win | it doesn't block pathing though, just collisions |
| 07:59.51 | Reaperguyver | ah okay |
| 07:59.57 | Reaperguyver | so flying units can path through it? |
| 08:00.00 | Reaperguyver | eerrr |
| 08:00.03 | Reaperguyver | nevermind |
| 08:00.11 | Enexy | Wewt |
| 08:00.11 | Reaperguyver | I think I have the unit set to somehting other than flying. |
| 08:00.19 | Enexy | I'm a happy camper |
| 08:00.37 | JademusSreg | It's just like having a big unit with fly collision flags and radius/inner radius values. |
| 08:00.56 | JademusSreg | Enex, seems it went well, pardon my lack of punctuality. |
| 08:01.13 | Reaperguyver | I see. |
| 08:01.29 | Reaperguyver | Cause right now my interceptors are just flying through the no fly zone lol. >.< |
| 08:01.44 | twodie | http://snag.gy/o7FLj.jpg |
| 08:01.50 | Enexy | yeah, it went good - did a 3 person test |
| 08:01.58 | Enexy | we were all in 3 separate games and were able to talk to each other real time |
| 08:02.06 | Reaperguyver | snazzy |
| 08:02.22 | Reaperguyver | Ya'll making my map feel crappy = / lol |
| 08:02.29 | JademusSreg | If interceptors could collide, they would be pretty worthless, so it makes sense. |
| 08:02.32 | Enexy | mine's not a map tho, no worries reaper |
| 08:02.53 | Reaperguyver | ^ well that's my problem lol. |
| 08:03.07 | Reaperguyver | I'll have to remove the no fly zone due to further issues. |
| 08:03.34 | Enexy | well, I'm gonna be making a library I suppose for this stuff, maybe someone wants to add a global chat box on their map somewhere lol |
| 08:04.33 | JademusSreg | Yes, we'll call it Trollian. |
| 08:04.41 | Enexy | lol |
| 08:04.45 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 08:04.46 | Reaperguyver | nice |
| 08:05.07 | Enexy | gonna buy a new server tomorrow lol, 'til then, good night ya'll |
| 08:05.24 | Reaperguyver | Night. |
| 08:05.33 | Reaperguyver | So you guys just chill in here and help people out? |
| 08:05.47 | Enexy | not me unfortunately, I only come in here looking for help |
| 08:05.52 | Enexy | at least I don't lie about it tho |
| 08:05.53 | JademusSreg | Someone's gotta do it, haha. |
| 08:06.23 | Enexy | I try to help if I know the issue at hand and it's an easy answer |
| 08:06.35 | Enexy | Night |
| 08:07.22 | Ownage | I ask a million questions and as I learn I give back what I can |
| 08:07.28 | Ownage | 'tis the way of irc channels |
| 08:08.20 | Ownage | JademusSreg, do you recommend using records for kill counters and most things in general, or only where needed |
| 08:08.39 | Ownage | I found a post online talking about how you should always use them, but also said they were slow |
| 08:09.17 | JademusSreg | Hm, I know banks, data tables, and catalogs are slow. Records are as fast as using any variable. |
| 08:09.46 | JademusSreg | But slow in this case is a difference of maybe 10-30 ms over 100k calls. |
| 08:10.13 | Ownage | ok that sounds fine |
| 08:10.32 | Reaperguyver | man I screwed up a trigger somewhere and I can't figure it out >.< |
| 08:11.01 | Ownage | or sorry yeah I mean data tables |
| 08:11.01 | JademusSreg | But yeah, structs/Records are good wherever you'd logically bundle information. If you keep track of lots of player-specific data, makes sense to put it all in a Record. |
| 08:11.20 | Ownage | sounds good |
| 08:12.09 | JademusSreg | Ah, data tables are useful as hell and have both global and thread-local scopes. They are just a pain in the ass to use unless you make a bunch of wrappers to handle the in-n-out. |
| 08:12.47 | Ownage | my butt usually is already hurting enough |
| 08:13.34 | Ownage | and before you think I'm a weirdo 'butt hurt' is an american term that means angry |
| 08:13.36 | JademusSreg | Reap, use debug messages. If it's not enabled, enable the debugger in File > Preferences. |
| 08:13.42 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 08:13.43 | twodie | any idea how to make portrait panel visible without console itself and would act as double click and it would center to that unit selected camera |
| 08:14.11 | Reaperguyver | I never understand those so I ginore it like a noob >.> |
| 08:14.39 | Reaperguyver | The thing is that it works going one way but not the other and I just copied it from the other side so it should work both ways. |
| 08:14.50 | Ownage | Reaperguyver, I did a huge portion of this map and am now realizing I probably want to change everything over to records |
| 08:14.56 | JademusSreg | If it's parent is hidden, twod, its child frames will be hidden as well. You'd need to hide the ones you don't want specifically. |
| 08:15.11 | JademusSreg | (In simplest terms) |
| 08:15.17 | JademusSreg | *its |
| 08:15.39 | Reaperguyver | I don't think I have enough information jumping around to require that but it might = / |
| 08:15.41 | twodie | how about creating new one? invisible but clickable for centering the camare to unit? |
| 08:16.14 | JademusSreg | Doable, yeah. |
| 08:16.29 | Ownage | Reaperguyver, it's nice because it allows you to combine all your variables into basically folders, and then call them that way |
| 08:16.45 | Ownage | and also allows for 5+ dimensions for arrays, in practice |
| 08:17.06 | Ownage | so you can do this stuff: playerstuff.counters.kills[playernumber] |
| 08:17.44 | Ownage | when you have a bajillion variables all over the place and you start to realize you could categorize them it starts looking a lot better |
| 08:19.24 | Reaperguyver | hhmmm = / |
| 08:20.03 | Reaperguyver | I might do it for the counters I have timer/income/kills |
| 08:20.21 | Reaperguyver | Anyone remeber castle fight from wc3? |
| 08:20.27 | Ownage | yep |
| 08:20.32 | Reaperguyver | trying to remake that. |
| 08:20.40 | Ownage | shouldn't be too hard |
| 08:20.48 | Ownage | the unit balance is what will soak your time |
| 08:20.55 | Ownage | and abilities and such |
| 08:20.57 | Reaperguyver | shouldn't but I still manage to mess it up. |
| 08:21.13 | Ownage | well you learn, get better :) |
| 08:21.18 | Ownage | I'm remaking a golems map |
| 08:21.24 | Reaperguyver | Yeah. I'm going to add more achievements personal stats. |
| 08:21.28 | Reaperguyver | Nice. |
| 08:21.44 | Ownage | how far are you into it |
| 08:21.56 | Reaperguyver | I have 2 races kinda ready for testing but I'm trying to figure how to allow people to pick teams. |
| 08:22.19 | Reaperguyver | two out of four intially. |
| 08:23.31 | Ownage | well my map doesn't have teams so it makes that easy |
| 08:23.33 | Reaperguyver | Also going to add different terrain types and have evironmental effects that happen periiodically. |
| 08:23.39 | Reaperguyver | yeah lol. |
| 08:24.24 | Reaperguyver | I suppose I could just add an extra attack too trigger. |
| 08:25.37 | Ownage | what do you mean |
| 08:26.01 | A1win | ahh now my camera has neat acceleration/deceleration in its rotation |
| 08:26.30 | A1win | rotates faster the larger the angle difference between camera and the unit's facing |
| 08:26.48 | Ownage | JademusSreg, can you glance at this condition list for unit dies trigger: http://pastebin.com/ViGwr2up |
| 08:26.54 | A1win | and has acc/dec so that if the unit turns quickly, the camera won't go crazy |
| 08:27.24 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 08:27.25 | A1win | JademusSreg, how do I disable selection circle from selected unit D: some default actor messages? |
| 08:27.25 | Ownage | line 15 occasionally gives me 'could not get unit from parameter in unitfiltermatch' |
| 08:27.38 | JademusSreg | Ah, being given a null unit. |
| 08:27.59 | Reaperguyver | hhmmm? Sorry was testing it. |
| 08:28.05 | Ownage | the event is a unit dies though, shouldn't that always return a unit |
| 08:28.33 | JademusSreg | It should. |
| 08:28.54 | JademusSreg | I'll consult my API reference for a bit. |
| 08:28.54 | Ownage | that's the only event: any unit dies |
| 08:29.02 | Ownage | then I try to weed out non-kill deaths |
| 08:29.15 | Ownage | and try to discount crap like hallucinations as this is a kill counter |
| 08:30.16 | JademusSreg | Suspect may not be a null unit, but a misapplication. |
| 08:30.36 | JademusSreg | Since there;s nothing there that could remove the reference from memory there. |
| 08:35.06 | JademusSreg | If you could, add a check to see if the event unit isn't null. |
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| 08:35.53 | JademusSreg | Because there's a check for killing unit, but not event unit. |
| 08:36.14 | Ownage | trying now |
| 08:36.39 | JademusSreg | And if anywhere in the code the unit is removed before this trigger is called form the queue, it would give it a null reference, |
| 08:36.45 | JademusSreg | *from |
| 08:37.16 | Reaperguyver | I might have found the issue I hope this works. |
| 08:39.48 | JademusSreg | Despite "thread" and such nomenclature, triggers can't execute simultaneously, so it can result in weird things like trigger A removes unit Z and trigger B was expecting unit Z to still exist. |
| 08:41.22 | Ownage | nothing so far |
| 08:41.23 | Reaperguyver | Blast that didn't work liek I was hoping it would = / |
| 08:43.52 | Reaperguyver | >.> Right idea wrong trigger. |
| 08:44.17 | JademusSreg | So long as KillingUnit and EventUnit are determined to not be null before using their references, you shouldn't get the error again. |
| 08:44.47 | JademusSreg | I don't see any error in the application, there, either. |
| 08:46.40 | JademusSreg | I'll take a look at the library function that returns killing unit. |
| 08:47.53 | Ownage | just got one |
| 08:48.23 | Ownage | in that same filtermatch line |
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| 08:48.49 | JademusSreg | Killing unit is just a wrapper for return EventUnitDamageSourceUnit(); HAh |
| 08:49.15 | JademusSreg | Error message? |
| 08:49.31 | Ownage | same thing |
| 08:49.45 | Ownage | could not get unit from parameter in unitfiltermatch |
| 08:49.53 | Ownage | value: 986#28) |
| 08:50.10 | Ownage | though those numbers change |
| 08:50.17 | Ownage | in this game so far I just have the one error |
| 08:50.47 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that only makes sense if the reference returned from EventUnit is null. |
| 08:51.18 | Ownage | that check is in there |
| 08:52.02 | Ownage | ok 4 errors now |
| 08:52.43 | Ownage | as it exists now: http://pastebin.com/jDUWgask |
| 08:53.29 | Reaperguyver | yay fixed it. |
| 08:53.59 | JademusSreg | While I'd put eventunit check first, yeah, there shouldn't be a problem with this code. |
| 08:55.06 | Ownage | alright well I moved that to be first and for now I will skip it |
| 08:55.08 | JademusSreg | Do you have lots of missiles and/or point defense drones? |
| 08:55.48 | Reaperguyver | I know one of my dialog boxes was giving me tons of errors. |
| 08:56.23 | Ownage | missiles, probably the same as most maps |
| 08:57.40 | JademusSreg | The PDD is one of the few things which can null missiles, but iirc, most missile units have a flag set to suppress the death event to prevent them from firing triggers and such. |
| 08:59.50 | JademusSreg | And I doubt the reference could be removed from memory without so much as a wait there. |
| 09:01.09 | twodie | how to set when testing map your race wihotu effecting game itself? |
| 09:01.51 | JademusSreg | Preferences, possibly. |
| 09:02.17 | JademusSreg | Or something in Gameplay data. Don't have the editor open atm. |
| 09:03.36 | twodie | test document, what is "additional options" ? |
| 09:04.02 | JademusSreg | Click it? =D |
| 09:04.22 | twodie | its a text field entry |
| 09:04.53 | JademusSreg | Arguments, perhaps. |
| 09:05.37 | JademusSreg | Like -windowed -crashgame -disable3d |
| 09:06.24 | Reaperguyver | Thanks for the help btw |
| 09:06.32 | Reaperguyver | I got what i wanted to accomplish today. I think. |
| 09:06.42 | JademusSreg | No propblem. |
| 09:06.51 | JademusSreg | Also, no problem. Hah |
| 09:07.15 | Reaperguyver | I keep getting an error refferring to a units radius? wtf lol |
| 09:10.14 | Reaperguyver | which is weird that it's checking for the radius of a unit that hasn't been built yet. |
| 09:12.55 | JademusSreg | Does it have anywhere to go? |
| 09:14.14 | A1win | whee now the unit can only be ordered to a 180 degree cone towards camera facing, ordering outiside it just clamps the angle to that cone |
| 09:14.24 | A1win | this is getting pretty neat o: |
| 09:14.40 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 09:17.41 | Reaperguyver | Nice. |
| 09:17.52 | Reaperguyver | Bed time for me I'll talk to you guys later. |
| 09:17.57 | A1win | screenshots don't really tell much though :| |
| 09:18.00 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-18-11.jpg |
| 09:18.05 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-32-47.jpg |
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| 09:18.29 | Reaperguyver | cool |
| 09:18.34 | JademusSreg | Adorable. |
| 09:18.46 | twodie | the Zolden! |
| 09:19.00 | Zolden | hey |
| 09:19.13 | Zolden | what cool, what adorable, show me |
| 09:19.20 | A1win | 11:18:00 < A1win> http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-18-11.jpg |
| 09:19.21 | twodie | [11:18] <A1win> http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-18-11.jpg [11:18] <A1win> http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-32-47.jpg |
| 09:19.23 | A1win | 11:18:04 < A1win> http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-32-47.jpg |
| 09:19.26 | A1win | 11:14:13 < A1win> whee now the unit can only be ordered to a 180 degree cone towards camera facing, ordering outiside it just clamps the angle to that cone |
| 09:21.05 | Zolden | ty |
| 09:21.30 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/mm/SC2%202013-03-17%2011-16-13-86.jpg |
| 09:22.10 | A1win | will do some field of view trickery to make running nicer |
| 09:26.56 | Zolden | once I added a model camera to a model, and used that camera as player camera, and also set unit's turn rate to about 50 so, and it worked smooth |
| 09:28.50 | JademusSreg | I'd enjoy seeing that demo. |
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| 09:44.54 | Zolden | JademusSreg: do you have anaglyph 3d glasses? |
| 09:45.02 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 09:45.45 | Zolden | fucking future, no one owns usefull stuff |
| 09:45.52 | Zolden | that demo was in 3d |
| 09:47.03 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:48.42 | Zolden | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1OqwR_krGs |
| 09:50.04 | JademusSreg | Haha, clever. |
| 09:50.35 | JademusSreg | Probably the most clever thing I've seen done in SC2. |
| 09:51.33 | Zolden | it look cleverer with the glasses |
| 09:51.38 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 09:55.09 | twodie | 4 icons left to remake... from yesterday. |
| 09:56.40 | Zolden | hitler once said "4 cities to recapture... from yesterday", and you know waht? he recaptured them! |
| 09:57.35 | twodie | Zolden how about 2 hitler's unfinished models to finish? |
| 09:59.25 | G0A | :) |
| 09:59.32 | Zolden | hitler would be very angry about it, whould shout loudly and hit the map on the table |
| 09:59.44 | G0A | how about Hitler's planned map to make? |
| 10:01.29 | Ownage | DAS IST NICHT GENUG! |
| 10:02.25 | twodie | Zolden your hitler's soldiers starts a revolt! Do something! |
| 10:04.59 | Kubi | ICH BIN EIN SUPER-SOLDAT |
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| 10:06.02 | Ownage | does attaching a text tag to a unit imply it will destroy when unit dies |
| 10:06.11 | Ownage | or is it just to make it follow the unit around for a while |
| 10:06.53 | Kubi | OWNAGE |
| 10:06.54 | Zolden | Ownage: it won't be destroyed, only follow, but there is a destroy text tag action exist |
| 10:06.55 | Kubi | YOUR MOM IS A TEXT TAG |
| 10:06.57 | Kubi | LOLOOLOOo |
| 10:07.09 | Zolden | twodie: i think i'll regain my modelling passion in a few days |
| 10:07.17 | twodie | :( |
| 10:07.56 | Zolden | twodie: how about :) |
| 10:08.17 | Kubi | AM I FREE TO GO OR AM I BEING DETAINED |
| 10:08.21 | Zolden | or at least :| |
| 10:08.25 | Zolden | or ;/ |
| 10:08.38 | Zolden | detainted |
| 10:09.23 | Kubi | IS THAT AN ORDER, SIR? |
| 10:11.12 | Ownage | looks like it does destroy it |
| 10:11.23 | Zolden | you can't be sure |
| 10:11.29 | Zolden | create 5k of them |
| 10:11.34 | Zolden | let them die |
| 10:11.39 | Zolden | check fps b4 and after |
| 10:11.47 | Ownage | hmm? |
| 10:11.59 | Kubi | Lol these dui checkpoints; these people in these videos are fucking morons. They have to answer one god damn question but they feel they're amendments are being violated |
| 10:12.14 | Ownage | I had a bunker with text tag on it. destroy bunker, tag just floating. I attached to unit, destroy bunker, tag gone |
| 10:12.27 | Kubi | I text tagged your mom! |
| 10:12.29 | Kubi | SCORE |
| 10:12.33 | Kubi | high fives Zolden |
| 10:12.37 | Kubi | SICK BURN |
| 10:12.37 | Zolden | still not sure it's destroyed |
| 10:12.52 | Ownage | well invisible is good enough for me |
| 10:13.16 | Zolden | puts Kubi in a glass cube |
| 10:13.28 | Kubi | http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-odVCtt3hRi0/Tf56Ow-eWTI/AAAAAAAACmE/h-wgASvsaPc/s1600/4.jpg |
| 10:13.33 | Kubi | DO U NEED HELP WITH TREATING THAT BURN |
| 10:13.36 | Zolden | it's not good enough for fps |
| 10:14.29 | Ownage | I don't know what that means |
| 10:15.32 | Kubi | IT MEANS I PWNED JOO ASS BACK TO OLD SKOOL |
| 10:15.41 | Kubi | DUMB FUCKING CANADIAN |
| 10:16.35 | Zolden | Ownage: undestroyed text tags consume perfomance |
| 10:16.41 | Zolden | and may cause lag |
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| 10:16.44 | Zolden | lower fps |
| 10:17.17 | Ownage | well in this case I have a maximum of 7 in that case |
| 10:17.27 | Ownage | I'll keep it in mind for the future though thanks |
| 10:21.51 | G0A | text tag eat more fps than unit with 3-6 poly model.) |
| 10:22.43 | JademusSreg | I would expect the text tag actor to destroy itself once orphaned. |
| 10:23.38 | Kubi | BEER IS LIKE POURING SMILES ON YOUR BRAIN |
| 10:23.40 | Kubi | HEY JAD |
| 10:23.43 | Kubi | U GET THAT MUI HERO PANEL |
| 10:23.44 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 10:23.52 | JademusSreg | Yep. It's done in the future. |
| 10:24.00 | JademusSreg | I went and checked. |
| 10:24.01 | Zolden | yea, using actors is better in terms of being sure that it's destroyed when you think it's deestroyed |
| 10:24.18 | JademusSreg | I told me that it's looking great. |
| 10:25.00 | Kubi | Oh I see how it is JademusSreg, MUI Hero Panel is about as done as my hero. |
| 10:25.50 | JademusSreg | Haha |
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| 10:26.18 | Zolden | What is the difference between Model Animation Style Continious and ModelAnimationStyleContinious actors? |
| 10:27.05 | Kubi | It all depends on what version of battletoads you are using |
| 10:27.12 | Ownage | 3 spaces |
| 10:27.20 | Ownage | bum bump bumppp tssst |
| 10:27.47 | Kubi | I feel fatter and look fatter but I lost 10 lbs |
| 10:27.49 | Kubi | da fuck |
| 10:27.56 | JademusSreg | Rest assured, shit gets done. The path toward completion, however, is a journey along the edge of a fractal. |
| 10:28.37 | Kubi | Yeah well I'm going to fractal your face. |
| 10:28.38 | twodie | wtf... hotkeys randomly disappears from buttons................. in game |
| 10:29.05 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 10:29.06 | Kubi | twodie did you disable dynamic hotkey events in settings? |
| 10:30.08 | twodie | mm? :O |
| 10:30.09 | Ownage | can I add a chance to not autocast? |
| 10:30.22 | Ownage | or rather, how hard is it to do that :) |
| 10:30.50 | JademusSreg | You can make the effect fail, or you can make the autocast ability a dummy with a chance to issue an order of the actual ability not on the command card. |
| 10:30.58 | Kubi | http://i.imgur.com/hJQcE9M.jpg |
| 10:31.03 | Kubi | Two |
| 10:31.04 | Kubi | die |
| 10:31.05 | Kubi | Twodie |
| 10:31.09 | Kubi | I just answered you |
| 10:31.53 | twodie | KUBI WHERE?! |
| 10:32.04 | Kubi | Did you even look? |
| 10:32.31 | twodie | look where?! |
| 10:33.02 | Kubi | SETTINGS MENU |
| 10:33.02 | twodie | before http://snag.gy/o7FLj.jpg , after http://snag.gy/TdQJt.jpg |
| 10:33.03 | Kubi | FFAS |
| 10:33.21 | Kubi | https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRdivrrjvmU76cd91N0Aozr2QSgri_2r-x9pPiCD7PzObQn-yqE |
| 10:33.23 | Kubi | brb |
| 10:33.48 | Kubi | twodie I lied. |
| 10:33.57 | Kubi | You believe everything on the internet.. |
| 10:34.00 | Kubi | Dont you. |
| 10:34.24 | twodie | :"d |
| 10:34.31 | twodie | yeah why not |
| 10:35.20 | Zolden | twodie: did you paint those weapons or screenshot models? |
| 10:36.11 | twodie | everything by hand |
| 10:36.23 | twodie | and using retarded mouse :( |
| 10:38.21 | Zolden | nice then |
| 10:39.03 | twodie | it really is. |
| 10:39.13 | Zolden | ranedom terrain too? in your new map |
| 10:39.34 | twodie | no |
| 10:39.34 | twodie | http://snag.gy/qbSvJ.jpg |
| 10:49.45 | twodie | wtf... really randomly disappearing, and appearing those hotkeys on buttons.... |
| 10:58.06 | Ownage | how do you use a texture after importing? do you attach it to a model or to an actor? I can't seem to figure that out |
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| 11:00.44 | Ownage | jesus there should be some kind of quality control on submitted assets on sc2mapster |
| 11:01.14 | Ownage | most of the things I click on are a one line description with no instructions or help, or even a description of what the thing is |
| 11:01.50 | JademusSreg | Yep. Tried quality control there, once. Not worth the time. |
| 11:03.26 | JademusSreg | Inclusiveness entails lower quality, haha. |
| 11:04.58 | Ownage | is it hard to convert from wc3 models to sc2? seems like there were dozens of thousands of models there, and I can find about 50 on sc2 |
| 11:05.37 | twodie | wc3? they too low poly and look like shit |
| 11:05.40 | twodie | or wow? |
| 11:05.51 | A1win | gah not completely sure if this camera rotation is a good thing ;p |
| 11:06.22 | A1win | feels a bit too random |
| 11:06.24 | Ownage | ahh, too low quality huh, that sucks |
| 11:07.55 | Ownage | what about diablo 3 ? They have some units that would be awesome in sc2 |
| 11:08.06 | Ownage | and since the game sucks so bad might as well salvage something |
| 11:08.33 | twodie | not sure about that one |
| 11:15.01 | Ownage | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlHbxt-TXXk looks like it's possible on some level, or was |
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| 11:22.13 | Totservis | each ooduKl |
| 11:22.20 | Totservis | I got no idea who ooduKles are and what do they do in captcha |
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| 11:30.16 | Ownage | phuck it I'm going to import some models from diablo 3 |
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| 11:39.15 | Monkalizer | is it possible to design events that can be triggered, or is that for blizzard only? |
| 11:39.38 | twodie | events? |
| 11:39.40 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 11:39.42 | twodie | what kind of events? |
| 11:39.44 | Monkalizer | yes |
| 11:39.56 | Monkalizer | well, you can make actions, triggers, conditions and event |
| 11:41.07 | JademusSreg | Well, my request for a generic trigger signal was implemented, so code can efficiently signal events for other triggers rather than manually call a bunch of shitty trigger executes. |
| 11:41.08 | twodie | ohh i see |
| 11:41.10 | twodie | no clue |
| 11:41.39 | Monkalizer | how does this work exactly? |
| 11:41.40 | JademusSreg | But you can't add your own event listeners to the game. |
| 11:41.48 | Monkalizer | oh, samn |
| 11:41.50 | Monkalizer | damn |
| 11:41.54 | JademusSreg | So the generic trigger signal is simple. |
| 11:42.18 | Monkalizer | see: im making an achievment system, and it would be convenient to be able to trigger "playerBuysUnit" etc |
| 11:42.46 | JademusSreg | You register a trigger for the signal, defined by a string, and when code anywhere else sends the signal, the trigger fires. |
| 11:42.59 | Monkalizer | ah, nice |
| 11:44.42 | Monkalizer | this means making a "triggerAddEvent("bob") and a Trigger(event=addeventGeneric("bob")->displayBobdialog() |
| 11:45.30 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/SfkARaFw |
| 11:45.39 | twodie | how to make that unit would go to rally point point attack move command? |
| 11:45.44 | twodie | in data |
| 11:45.47 | JademusSreg | Line 190 - 198 |
| 11:46.35 | JademusSreg | twodie, I expect that's defined in the Attack or Move abilities. |
| 11:47.04 | JademusSreg | Though Rally may also have its own order it issues. |
| 11:47.52 | twodie | well i looked in rally ability not seems like there contains attack move things |
| 11:47.56 | Monkalizer | cool. your'e clever JademusSreg |
| 11:48.02 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 11:48.30 | Monkalizer | how does it work across libraries? |
| 11:48.39 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 11:48.52 | Monkalizer | i have my achievments in one library and my "thing that triggers achievments" in another mod |
| 11:48.55 | JademusSreg | Which is to say, yes, it works. |
| 11:48.59 | Monkalizer | kk |
| 11:49.17 | JademusSreg | So lo9ng as they are both listening for the signal, they will work. =D |
| 11:49.33 | Monkalizer | good |
| 11:50.29 | Monkalizer | what kind of projects are you working on? |
| 11:50.54 | JademusSreg | Assisting various people. |
| 11:51.01 | Monkalizer | ah |
| 11:51.35 | JademusSreg | Nearly done with Bounty's loading screen, assisting Kubi with heroes and repurposing some HotS hero display stuff. |
| 11:53.07 | Monkalizer | mhm |
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| 11:54.21 | JademusSreg | Of course, to do the latter, that means updating lots of my own code, restructuring their hero panel code to make it MUI, tinkering with layouts and dialog control templates. |
| 11:54.25 | JademusSreg | Ya know, fun stuff. |
| 11:55.01 | Monkalizer | yup |
| 11:56.09 | twodie | Zolden have a clue why when unit moves or stands shadows disappears for a sec and reappears. Most likely something in animations related |
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| 11:57.47 | Zolden | dunno |
| 12:14.07 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/PhotonSynergyLoadscreen.jpg |
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| 12:15.37 | JademusSreg | Assuming people won't read or understand the silly nonsense text, convenient control diagrams have been added. |
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| 12:43.47 | G0A | Fucking shit bnet and its waiting for players on loading screen |
| 12:45.34 | Zolden | yea |
| 12:51.27 | twodie | QWE! |
| 12:53.51 | Totservis | I just realized that cliff meshes don't scale if I change cliff levels. Sad I didn't know it earlyer :D |
| 12:54.53 | Totservis | *earlier |
| 12:55.19 | twodie | yeah! |
| 12:55.25 | twodie | its preplaced models |
| 12:55.29 | twodie | variations |
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| 13:13.53 | twodie | aseda |
| 13:14.52 | twodie | Anyone knows is there was attempt to create unique order confirmation model like when you press order for a unit in that place poop pops out. |
| 13:15.35 | JademusSreg | If I understood that, I might be able to answer. |
| 13:17.08 | G0A | twodie I think I may know how to do. |
| 13:17.19 | twodie | like this: http://snag.gy/RmBt7.jpg |
| 13:17.22 | JademusSreg | Unrelated, pleased with the control infographics added to the Bounty's loadscreen. |
| 13:17.32 | JademusSreg | Ah. I' |
| 13:17.52 | JademusSreg | I've not seen anyone make custom models for order confirmation. |
| 13:18.03 | G0A | twodie you can set the model in the ability if I am right. |
| 13:18.23 | JademusSreg | But Goa is correct, if that is to what you refer. |
| 13:18.50 | G0A | too bad scaleing doesnt work... |
| 13:19.10 | twodie | anyway, going afk. Will try that later. |
| 13:21.25 | G0A | FUCKING SHIT LOADING SCREEN WAITING FOR PLAYERS |
| 13:21.46 | JademusSreg | Goa, is this problem persistent or intermitent? |
| 13:22.20 | G0A | did you play more than 2 games on arcade since 2.0.4? |
| 13:22.43 | JademusSreg | Probably not. I only play if invited and not busy. |
| 13:22.56 | JademusSreg | I think I've played exactly 2, haha. |
| 13:23.04 | G0A | well I played today 3 games and 2 of it had this shit |
| 13:23.47 | JademusSreg | Happened during one of the Tofu tests, too. Apparently it's widespread. |
| 13:24.26 | Totservis | i seen this "waiting for players" after which all players are just kicked from the game and it probably starts playing without players at all, heh |
| 13:24.35 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 13:24.59 | Totservis | i hope it's something like BNet lags |
| 13:25.13 | Totservis | and hope it will be fixed if they are :D |
| 13:25.52 | JademusSreg | My work on Bounty's Photon Synergy logo, loadscreen, map preview, and arcade icon is complete. Woo. |
| 13:26.30 | JademusSreg | Now back to fun stuff, like tinkering, testing, reversing and repurposing HotS code. |
| 13:28.56 | Totservis | Never thought before that it's SO dark in closed rooms on minimal graphics in FPS-mode. Or maybe I just forgot to implement some light emitters in rooms. |
| 13:29.47 | JademusSreg | Orly? Screenshots? |
| 13:32.04 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 13:37.41 | Totservis | Remorking cameras now so almost no screenshots ingame yet :) |
| 13:38.04 | Totservis | Without roof it looks like not so dark inside: http://i.imgur.com/xNbteY1.jpg |
| 13:39.17 | JademusSreg | Oh yeah, have you played with the new(ish) light actors? |
| 13:41.33 | JademusSreg | Apparently they are meant to be used in the cutscene editor, but can be used in-game, though I have yet to work out how to make them behave properly in the latter application. |
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| 13:43.04 | JademusSreg | I can't make the spot light so much as rotate with site ops in game, but viewing them in the cutscene editor shows them properly rotates, which is several shades of annoying. |
| 13:43.06 | twodie | G0A yeah i see that all abilities have usage of those confirmation models field |
| 13:44.46 | Ownage | anyone good w/ 3dsmax |
| 13:45.11 | twodie | low skilled 3ds max here |
| 13:45.11 | twodie | zolasda |
| 13:45.17 | JademusSreg | I do everything but model and music, Own, haha. Fortunately, there are modelers here. |
| 13:45.23 | Ownage | low skill could be fine |
| 13:45.27 | twodie | Zolden best i think here |
| 13:45.29 | Ownage | my first time using it ever |
| 13:45.52 | Ownage | trying to apply starcraft 2 material to a model, not working out like in a tutorial |
| 13:46.05 | Ownage | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/27181-video-diablo-iii-models-to-starcraft-ii/#posts |
| 13:46.46 | Ownage | 10:30 he says go to the material editor |
| 13:46.51 | twodie | its not working in game? or not showing in 3ds? or you cant apply the |
| 13:46.52 | twodie | ... |
| 13:47.02 | Ownage | then he makes a new sc2 material and applies it to the ches |
| 13:47.04 | Ownage | chest* |
| 13:47.17 | Ownage | you can see the texture render on his sphere and then on the chest |
| 13:47.31 | Ownage | doesn't do that for me |
| 13:47.32 | twodie | so do you able to get texture on spehere? |
| 13:47.38 | twodie | do you use m3 tools? |
| 13:47.44 | twodie | not blizzard star tools? |
| 13:48.05 | Ownage | "NiNToxicated's M3 Plug ins" |
| 13:48.39 | JademusSreg | It's terribly outdated. =D |
| 13:48.40 | twodie | so |
| 13:48.53 | Totservis | mmm, no, not played yet with new lightings :) Actually I played too little with old lightings so they have more priority for me :D |
| 13:49.02 | JademusSreg | Obsolete since the art tools released. |
| 13:49.30 | twodie | still quite working tool |
| 13:49.32 | Ownage | so there is something newer I can add this btimap with? |
| 13:49.39 | JademusSreg | Tot, you may enjoy having some overhead spotlights. =D |
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| 13:50.08 | JademusSreg | Good timing. |
| 13:50.11 | Bounty | Morning everyone |
| 13:50.29 | Bounty | Did you even go to sleep yet Jade? |
| 13:50.30 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Photon%20Synergy.7z |
| 13:50.36 | Bounty | o0o |
| 13:50.51 | Totservis | If I learn them and they work on minimal settings - sure! :D |
| 13:50.59 | JademusSreg | They do. =D |
| 13:51.17 | Totservis | Sounds awesome :D |
| 13:51.22 | Bounty | lol jesus, so many images |
| 13:51.27 | JademusSreg | I'll pastebin some XML for one, simply copypasta to your actor xml, commit changes, and bam. |
| 13:51.29 | Ownage | where do I get this startools |
| 13:52.41 | JademusSreg | *actor and model xml |
| 13:53.06 | twodie | ownage |
| 13:53.09 | twodie | ask Zolden! |
| 13:53.12 | twodie | or me! |
| 13:53.17 | Bounty | So this is the final draft jade? |
| 13:53.18 | twodie | cause they colsed beta stuff |
| 13:53.36 | Bounty | also why are there so many images JademusSreg lol |
| 13:54.02 | Ownage | oh can I just import this stuff directly? |
| 13:54.20 | JademusSreg | Jpgs for previews, dds for final product, psd for source files. |
| 13:54.33 | Bounty | source files? |
| 13:54.35 | JademusSreg | Though the arcade icon is png. |
| 13:54.41 | JademusSreg | Yeah, the files I used to make them. |
| 13:54.45 | Bounty | ah |
| 13:54.53 | Bounty | so i just use the dds? |
| 13:55.01 | twodie | ownage what stuff? |
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| 13:55.26 | Ownage | dds and obj |
| 13:55.48 | twodie | yeah |
| 13:55.53 | Ownage | watching this tutorial that's old and says to open in 3ds max and apply the texture to the model and so forth |
| 13:55.57 | Ownage | ok I'll try it thanks |
| 13:56.08 | JademusSreg | Tot: http://pastebin.com/4ExhEuPR |
| 13:56.41 | JademusSreg | The model will link implicitly to the actor once both have been committed. |
| 13:57.04 | JademusSreg | Simply place and increase doodad height. |
| 13:57.47 | JademusSreg | Bounty, yeah, the dds files are used. Dunno what format the arcade icon should be. |
| 13:57.53 | JademusSreg | So I made it png. |
| 13:57.59 | Bounty | should be fine |
| 13:58.08 | Bounty | <3 |
| 13:58.16 | Bounty | i like what you did with the screenshots |
| 13:58.20 | Bounty | Very cool |
| 13:58.23 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 13:58.39 | Bounty | Def not what i was expecting, but in a good way |
| 13:58.59 | JademusSreg | Took some time getting the profile on those little dudes to be readable. |
| 13:59.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 14:00.55 | JademusSreg | And the margins should work in all common aspect ratios. |
| 14:01.02 | JademusSreg | So fret not. |
| 14:01.27 | Ownage | twodie, what am I missing, I don't even see them in the import panel |
| 14:01.40 | Bounty | Can't wait to release it |
| 14:01.57 | Bounty | Still need final testing and the releease video |
| 14:02.09 | JademusSreg | I especially enjoy the attack infographic. |
| 14:02.16 | twodie | Ownage im bad at understanding and explaining stuff :D So.... Idk what you doing at all. |
| 14:02.37 | Ownage | trying to import a model and texture into starcraft 2 editor |
| 14:03.00 | Ownage | I went into import, I clicked open and browsed to a directory which has an obj and dds file |
| 14:03.04 | Ownage | it doesn't list them |
| 14:03.07 | JademusSreg | Though drawing the trails on the projectiles was fun, lots of wispy lines. |
| 14:03.36 | Vail | odd. |
| 14:03.43 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 14:03.53 | Vail | ownages issue |
| 14:04.30 | twodie | Ownage obj files doesnt work in SC2 editor. |
| 14:04.46 | Vail | yeah they have to be M3files |
| 14:04.46 | Ownage | I just asked if I could import it directly and you said yes |
| 14:04.56 | Ownage | ok. so how can I convert them to m3 |
| 14:04.59 | twodie | you can improtant them |
| 14:05.05 | twodie | but you couldnt use the obj files |
| 14:05.10 | twodie | in SC2 editor |
| 14:05.31 | twodie | its was confusing then to me about what you talking where what you going to improt |
| 14:05.49 | Vail | i would suggest getting the art tools |
| 14:06.02 | Ownage | where can I get those from |
| 14:06.03 | Vail | if they are available |
| 14:06.16 | Ownage | all I find is a closed thread on battle.net talking about a beta version |
| 14:08.47 | JademusSreg | Are the art tools still in beta? |
| 14:09.04 | JademusSreg | I would have expected them released by now. |
| 14:10.11 | Bounty | also Jade i require your input on something |
| 14:10.15 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 14:10.25 | Bounty | I was thinking about making the camera fov and distance when you sprint the default |
| 14:11.01 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 14:11.10 | JademusSreg | I'll play a game with you in a bit to test. |
| 14:11.12 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 14:11.14 | Bounty | kk |
| 14:13.00 | Vail | looks like they are not available yet |
| 14:13.05 | Ownage | I feel like there's one or two basic stupid things I'm doing wrong in 3dsmax |
| 14:13.07 | Vail | which sucks |
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| 14:29.06 | asdasd_ | da |
| 14:29.09 | asdasd_ | hey |
| 14:29.21 | asdasd_ | how do i send units to other region when units enter some region |
| 14:29.40 | asdasd_ | i will post thread if no one answers soon |
| 14:29.57 | Ownage | event: unit enters/leaves region |
| 14:30.09 | Ownage | condition : whatever you are doing to make sure its the units you care about |
| 14:30.21 | asdasd_ | i want to know trigger |
| 14:30.23 | Ownage | action: pick each unit in unit group that is the other group of units |
| 14:30.35 | Ownage | action: issue order to units |
| 14:30.49 | Ownage | order targeting point -> center of region -> place you want them to go |
| 14:31.13 | asdasd_ | not moving. |
| 14:31.23 | asdasd_ | it must be teleport becuz it is island |
| 14:31.23 | Ownage | well it 100% works every time forever |
| 14:31.28 | Ownage | so you're doing something wrong :) |
| 14:31.34 | Ownage | show your trigger |
| 14:31.43 | asdasd_ | i didnt make any trigger |
| 14:31.50 | JademusSreg | Move Unit action. |
| 14:32.05 | Ownage | well without a trigger it won't work |
| 14:32.05 | JademusSreg | Or Set Unit Position. Or something similarly named. |
| 14:32.12 | Ownage | it's move unit instantly |
| 14:32.13 | asdasd_ | if units enter region 1, units will be teleported to region 2 |
| 14:32.13 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 14:32.27 | Ownage | ok go make it, sounds like you got it |
| 14:32.54 | JademusSreg | Bounty, ready to test? |
| 14:33.37 | asdasd_ | you told me of moving units to target not teleporting |
| 14:33.46 | Ownage | we told you both |
| 14:34.09 | Ownage | issue order -> is for making them move |
| 14:34.14 | Ownage | move units -> is to just move them |
| 14:34.22 | Bounty | yeah JademusSreg im online |
| 14:34.35 | JademusSreg | is on. |
| 14:34.36 | Ownage | you can just type 'move' in the bar at the top and you'll find them all |
| 14:34.53 | asdasd_ | who thinks move is teleport imao |
| 14:35.03 | JademusSreg | Search filter is your friend. |
| 14:35.05 | Ownage | teleportation isn't real |
| 14:35.07 | Ownage | moving is |
| 14:35.15 | asdasd_ | ok i got it thx |
| 14:44.43 | JademusSreg | Strange it didn't load the loadingscreen for me. It loaded for you, Bounty? |
| 14:44.54 | Bounty | yes |
| 14:45.00 | Ownage | damn now I can get the texture into 3ds max, and have it render on the sphere but can't get it to apply to the model |
| 14:45.14 | Bounty | it did that for me to though the first time i loaded the game with it |
| 14:45.17 | JademusSreg | Well, that's good. Seems bnet is just buggy all over lately. |
| 14:45.40 | Bounty | lately? lol |
| 14:45.58 | A1win | I had my loadingscreen disapepar when I used it in a script on map init, when I duplicated the file and used the other, it seemed to fix the disappearing |
| 14:45.59 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 14:46.15 | A1win | though not 100% sure it's fixed |
| 14:46.22 | A1win | hasn't reoccurred yet |
| 14:47.07 | Ownage | maybe I need an older 3ds max :| |
| 14:48.51 | twodie | Ownage you apply it on model? |
| 14:49.01 | twodie | it turns all white? |
| 14:49.10 | Ownage | right it's all white |
| 14:49.12 | Zolden | A1win: is it dds? |
| 14:49.19 | A1win | yeah |
| 14:49.32 | A1win | though I tested with tga too, same problem |
| 14:49.57 | twodie | Ownage so try pressing buttons in the same toolbar where you got to apply the texture on model |
| 14:50.21 | twodie | "show standard viewport stuff lalalala" |
| 14:51.38 | Ownage | I have material editor open which has material, with compmap and diffusemap |
| 14:52.00 | Ownage | diffusemap is set to the texture and compamp layer1 is set to the texture |
| 14:52.27 | Ownage | this is 3ds max 2013 |
| 14:53.24 | Ownage | http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/6377/captureawz.png |
| 14:54.08 | twodie | its not supported by 2013! |
| 14:54.11 | twodie | the tool |
| 14:54.18 | twodie | bugs may appear |
| 14:54.29 | twodie | if im correctly readed the discription of the tool |
| 14:54.42 | Ownage | ok no wonder |
| 14:54.59 | twodie | well |
| 14:55.12 | twodie | that doesnt cause you not to show in 3ds |
| 14:55.40 | twodie | its problem that you dont press to show texture on the model. |
| 14:55.49 | twodie | by default it doesnt who |
| 14:55.55 | twodie | if you export |
| 14:56.16 | twodie | and import to game then we may see what problems really you may have there |
| 14:56.22 | Ownage | I see |
| 14:56.26 | Ownage | let me look for that option |
| 14:57.34 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3icryT4jrss&feature=youtu.be |
| 14:58.57 | Totservis | TY, Jade! Saved it for soonish future when it might help :) |
| 14:58.57 | Ownage | even if I scene check it fails |
| 14:59.03 | Ownage | says the material is not attached |
| 14:59.07 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 14:59.24 | Totservis | the problem of mine was in broken BNet cache -_- |
| 14:59.48 | Totservis | cleared it - and now it's not so dark in Krait ^^ http://i.imgur.com/YrSRD4F.jpg |
| 15:00.41 | JademusSreg | I like dark maps. =D |
| 15:01.03 | JademusSreg | Too bad players on low settings don't get to enjoy lighting. |
| 15:04.12 | Ahli | in my map they enjoy that everything is dark and gray |
| 15:04.57 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 15:07.01 | A1win | I can't focus on one thing for long enough >_> already got bored of the megamonster map too |
| 15:07.36 | Bounty | Am i the only one who cannot stand maps that used third person view and STILL keep the standard SC2 UI |
| 15:07.48 | A1win | ;x |
| 15:07.54 | Ownage | I got it |
| 15:07.56 | Ownage | finally |
| 15:08.53 | Bounty | Like 3D city defense |
| 15:08.59 | Bounty | why the hell did he keep the SC2 UI |
| 15:09.53 | Kubi | WHERES THE FAG FUZZYUY |
| 15:10.57 | Totservis | on high lightings settings it looks better (rooms are coloured with a special light, some corners are dark and there is ceiling seen!): http://i.imgur.com/TPBjloT.jpg Sad, i don't play on something higher than low ;D |
| 15:13.24 | Kubi | http://i.imgur.com/H9wTw6F.jpg |
| 15:13.25 | Kubi | LOL |
| 15:15.24 | JademusSreg | Serial killer eating ice cream. |
| 15:15.42 | Kubi | I heard JademusSreg has a purty mouf |
| 15:15.58 | Totservis | the most right cone is falling! |
| 15:16.00 | JademusSreg | You heard correctly. |
| 15:16.41 | Zolden | cereal eater killing ice cream |
| 15:16.46 | Kubi | good supple lips. |
| 15:17.29 | JademusSreg | It's true. |
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| 15:20.26 | JademusSreg | Primordial zerg looks like they're made from doodads. |
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| 15:30.08 | JademusSreg | I wonder if there are any other undocumented natives. |
| 15:32.13 | Kubi | OH MY GOD |
| 15:32.28 | Kubi | LIQUOR STORES ARE FUCKING CLOSED ON SUNDAY IN MINNESOTA |
| 15:32.43 | Kubi | AND EVERYWHERE ELSE SELLS LESS THAN 3% ALC BY VOL |
| 15:32.48 | Kubi | NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 15:32.53 | Kubi | NOT A SOBER SAINT PATTY DAY |
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| 15:41.07 | Ownage | wtffffff |
| 15:41.20 | Ownage | the same error on 3dsmax 2011 as on 2013 |
| 15:41.32 | Ownage | modl.sc2tight[1] = M3E_Tight.init() |
| 15:41.36 | Ownage | it doesn't know what init is |
| 15:41.46 | Zolden | just relax, wait a week or two until art tools reaeased |
| 15:42.41 | Zolden | but if you want to use m3 exporter, check the thread http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/third-party-tools/963-m3-exporter/?unread |
| 15:43.40 | Ownage | that's the one I'm using that doesn't work |
| 15:44.02 | Eagles | What is the condition called to check if Triggering Unit is a missile? |
| 15:44.37 | Ownage | filter it |
| 15:44.39 | twodie | unit filter |
| 15:45.56 | JademusSreg | Got the full native list, but not their parameters. |
| 15:46.01 | twodie | reused warcraft3 orcs flag for orders stuff |
| 15:46.11 | Zolden | Ownage: I mean read the thread, there u'll find what to do to avoid the error you get |
| 15:46.50 | twodie | http://snag.gy/hub2b.jpg |
| 15:47.09 | Eagles | thanks alot guys |
| 15:47.28 | Ownage | did you see a post I should read? there's 55 pages |
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| 15:48.50 | Zolden | Ownage: read some last pages |
| 15:49.02 | twodie | or use search |
| 15:49.14 | Zolden | twodie: "ss"? |
| 15:49.21 | twodie | :D |
| 15:49.26 | twodie | road |
| 15:49.31 | twodie | http://snag.gy/bi8UZ.jpg |
| 15:51.01 | Zolden | road http://greyfalcon.us/restored/myPictures/ss.gif |
| 15:51.11 | twodie | :D |
| 15:51.32 | twodie | i dont get it :| |
| 15:52.13 | Zolden | if you don't get something, something may one day get you |
| 15:52.15 | Totservis | that archer is very cute! |
| 15:52.16 | Ownage | yeah I don't fdind anything uself yet |
| 15:52.36 | Zolden | Ownage: did you create a tight test? |
| 15:52.52 | Ownage | I don't know what that is |
| 15:52.54 | Zolden | u need to have a tight test and have it attached to a bone |
| 15:53.10 | Zolden | then just relax and wait for art tools |
| 15:54.24 | Ownage | I'm going to try to find an old version when bone adding was automatic |
| 15:54.25 | JademusSreg | Seems there are more undocumented natives. Woo. |
| 15:54.45 | JademusSreg | GameSetQuitOnQuitButton |
| 15:55.01 | Zolden | quit on quit? |
| 15:55.13 | Totservis | quit when quit!!! |
| 15:55.16 | JademusSreg | No idea what it means. |
| 15:55.49 | Totservis | some people just don't quit when they say they quit |
| 15:55.50 | Ahli | how did you find that? |
| 15:56.54 | Ahli | it appears on the chinese mapping site in the list: http://bbs.islga.org/read-htm-tid-1784358-page-1-fpage-1.html |
| 15:57.37 | Ownage | I don't find anything in the universe called a tight test, is there another name? |
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| 15:59.36 | Zolden | Ownage: maybe in the export panel there is a create tight test button? |
| 16:00.03 | Zolden | or helpers -> sc2 objects |
| 16:00.04 | JademusSreg | Ahli, string dump of the editor. |
| 16:00.05 | Ownage | the m3 export maxscript? |
| 16:00.07 | Zolden | it was soomwhere |
| 16:01.07 | Ownage | there's scene check and add bones |
| 16:01.22 | Ownage | clicking add bones adds a black triangle |
| 16:01.55 | Zolden | find where sc2 objects are |
| 16:02.06 | Zolden | in helpers maybe |
| 16:02.14 | Zolden | there should be tight test |
| 16:03.41 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLGSC2 flash vs parting in a few minutes |
| 16:05.06 | Zolden | is parting - that fatty? |
| 16:05.08 | Ownage | ok found a button that said that |
| 16:05.24 | Zolden | Ownage: create it and pick bone |
| 16:05.28 | Ahli | the fatty was leenock |
| 16:05.41 | Zolden | was he defeated? |
| 16:06.01 | Ahli | he lost vs innovation which is still in the tournament |
| 16:06.12 | Zolden | poor fatty |
| 16:06.19 | Zolden | he had to eat more to win |
| 16:07.22 | Ownage | well I hit it and then double clicked the bone button and the panel goes away |
| 16:07.29 | Ownage | export still fails with the same error though |
| 16:07.46 | Ownage | and if I instead of double clicking it, click it once and then click the bone I get a different error |
| 16:08.06 | Ownage | unknown property parent in undefined |
| 16:10.24 | Zolden | ok, then relax and wait for art tools |
| 16:10.27 | JademusSreg | 2286 natives. 1902 of which are in natives.galaxy, the rest in AI. Neato. |
| 16:11.55 | Ownage | how many more months will that be |
| 16:12.01 | twodie | 1 |
| 16:12.04 | twodie | 2-5 |
| 16:12.10 | Totservis | soon(tm) |
| 16:12.50 | Totservis | or when it's done(tm) which is just the same :D |
| 16:13.44 | Zolden | i didn't find any bugs, it only misses some tutorials, so i think it will be soon |
| 16:14.32 | Ownage | I don't get why in this video the guy doing the same thing as me just clicks export and it works |
| 16:14.43 | Ownage | and when I do it there's all this shit about bones |
| 16:15.15 | twodie | Zolden what to do to show transperancy on model? mask, alpha 180, set aplha texture, use A.. else? |
| 16:15.43 | twodie | Ownage mb you send us your model, texutreS? |
| 16:16.18 | Ownage | I'm just literally doing the exact same steps as this video tutorial http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/27181-video-diablo-iii-models-to-starcraft-ii/#posts |
| 16:16.31 | Zolden | twodie: set blend instead of opaque |
| 16:16.33 | twodie | mb its too old |
| 16:16.37 | Zolden | alpha blend |
| 16:16.50 | Ownage | at 11:45 he goes to the export process |
| 16:16.59 | Ownage | just clicks export, filename, he's done |
| 16:17.15 | Ownage | nothing in the whole video from start to finish about bones or test whatevers or anything |
| 16:17.20 | Zolden | and set alpha threshould lower |
| 16:17.30 | Ownage | I'm going to try to figure out what version he was using from the date |
| 16:19.06 | twodie | Zolden no still same shit |
| 16:19.29 | Zolden | twodie: did you set alpha blend? did you set alpha threshold to 0? |
| 16:20.25 | twodie | yeah it doesnt work... going to look into tower model to see why there it worked |
| 16:21.56 | twodie | and have no clue |
| 16:23.01 | JademusSreg | Neat. I see some cheats/debug commands I didn't know existed. |
| 16:23.31 | Zolden | JademusSreg: like what? |
| 16:24.19 | Zolden | twodie: maybe remove that "mask", set it back to speculaaaar |
| 16:24.49 | Zolden | becasue alpha blend also uses alpha mask, and they may conflit |
| 16:24.50 | twodie | seems like it was using the texture in imported files |
| 16:25.16 | JademusSreg | Like GoTeamVenture, HoradricCube, some of the Death commands. |
| 16:25.46 | twodie | yeah that was the case |
| 16:25.54 | twodie | so it was using old file |
| 16:28.40 | ThunderLord | does anyone know why my banks arnt working? i can load values from them if i load them in the same game i saved them in... but not before. its like they clear at the start of every game |
| 16:28.42 | ThunderLord | http://pastebin.com/AzjP7FHX |
| 16:29.47 | twodie | Thunderlord you doing it workn |
| 16:29.54 | twodie | wrong |
| 16:29.59 | ThunderLord | ): |
| 16:30.16 | twodie | you need ahli map with exmaple how its done |
| 16:30.18 | ThunderLord | it would work if i did it rite XD |
| 16:30.25 | ThunderLord | ive looked at examples |
| 16:31.02 | twodie | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/50091-where-to-get-the-sc2-art-tools/#p5 |
| 16:31.04 | twodie | here |
| 16:31.06 | ThunderLord | i cant load and stuff at initialization... i need to set the banks after the game has started |
| 16:31.15 | twodie | not look |
| 16:31.20 | twodie | but copy paste it |
| 16:31.33 | twodie | and use everything that is give to you |
| 16:31.59 | Bounty | JAdemusSreg |
| 16:32.19 | Bounty | i cut out the control images from ur picture, added an alpha channel and put it on the right side of the main menu : |
| 16:32.22 | Bounty | :) |
| 16:32.34 | Bounty | thats how much i like them |
| 16:32.35 | Bounty | lol |
| 16:32.36 | Zolden | ThunderLord: as far as I remember, preload and synchronize should use constants instead of variables |
| 16:32.38 | ThunderLord | ive made banks that work on initialization |
| 16:32.54 | ThunderLord | okay |
| 16:33.17 | Zolden | ThunderLord: just create a trigger without event and there preload and initialize bank for each players |
| 16:33.42 | twodie | ThunderLord examine the given map first please. |
| 16:33.49 | twodie | and then use global variables |
| 16:34.00 | twodie | not bunch of local variables |
| 16:34.25 | Zolden | no events because it shuoldn't be run, preload and synchronize is not an action, but a directive |
| 16:35.33 | ThunderLord | i have, ive seen that map before |
| 16:36.03 | ThunderLord | the problem is dealing with not doing it at initialization... ive made a simple test bank work... ill reassign some of my vars |
| 16:36.03 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 16:36.22 | ThunderLord | if my BANKNAME variable is flaged as a constant, can i use it with preload and sync? |
| 16:36.24 | JademusSreg | Cool. |
| 16:36.31 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 16:37.18 | Zolden | only the literal names, because non of variables exist when that directive have to do its job |
| 16:37.40 | JademusSreg | The preload bank GUI action just adds the bank entry to preload list in the map's xml, so it must be literal. |
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| 16:39.01 | gtg | hey |
| 16:39.13 | gtg | if a unit dies, team 1 wins |
| 16:39.17 | gtg | how do i do this? |
| 16:39.29 | Ownage | event: unit dies |
| 16:39.31 | ThunderLord | thats annoying... can i use a constant with Open bank? |
| 16:39.41 | ThunderLord | and can i set constants at initialization>? |
| 16:39.47 | Ownage | if you want specific unit then you set it that way |
| 16:39.59 | JademusSreg | So long as you're not using it with preload bank, it's fine. |
| 16:40.03 | Ownage | if you want only the type of unit then add that condition: unit type of triggering unit = whatever |
| 16:40.38 | Zolden | twodie: I hope you will manage to add specular/normal maps to your buildings, because I will need em when I start my own medieval-related map |
| 16:40.49 | Ownage | action: pick each player in team whatever, action: end game in defeat |
| 16:41.40 | twodie | Zolden not likely cause it will take a lot of time just to make models bugs that is applyed when normals and speculars applys appears |
| 16:42.08 | Bounty | JademusSreg |
| 16:42.14 | Bounty | Get online for another quick camera test |
| 16:43.37 | Ahli | hmm, does mlg has to promote recover game via pulling the plug during matches? |
| 16:43.56 | Ahli | 2nd time now that this has to be used |
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| 16:44.31 | ThunderLord | i run these 3 lines at initialization for each player, and all the banks are cleared for some reason... Bank - Preload and synchronize bank "NewBank" for player (Picked player) |
| 16:44.32 | ThunderLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:44.32 | ThunderLord | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:45.10 | Ahli | read preload tooltip please |
| 16:45.32 | ThunderLord | i know cuz i am checking them with notepad... the bank exists fine when i leave the game, but are destroyed with i start a new one |
| 16:45.47 | ThunderLord | whats wrong with my preload, i literally typed in "New |
| 16:45.51 | ThunderLord | Bank" |
| 16:46.01 | Ahli | the filename is not the problem |
| 16:46.06 | Ahli | the player is |
| 16:46.25 | Ahli | no variables allowed in preload statement |
| 16:46.53 | ThunderLord | is that a joke XD weird, but okay, ill copy paste it 16 times |
| 16:46.56 | Ahli | preload only creates a file within the map that defines which banks are shared in multiplayer during loading screen |
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| 16:47.42 | Ahli | not a joke ;) just Blizzard using fake trigger actions to define settings :D |
| 16:48.57 | ThunderLord | awesome XD, well now it works... i cant believe i spent like 4 hours on that shit |
| 16:49.20 | Zolden | ThunderLord: yea, it's a tricky thing |
| 16:49.51 | Ownage | hmm I can import the model into sc2 but there's no texture |
| 16:50.04 | Ownage | and even if I import the dds file I can't figure out how to link them |
| 16:50.34 | ThunderLord | Texture Select by ID Ownage |
| 16:50.47 | Zolden | Ownage: you need to put textures in the right folder withing the import editor |
| 16:51.07 | ThunderLord | there is a tutorial of it on mapster... but typically a new import will automatically sync up if u restart the editor after importing the images |
| 16:51.08 | Zolden | usually it's assets/textures, sometimes root |
| 16:51.21 | Zolden | and restart the editor if you want to see them in the editor |
| 16:51.36 | Ownage | I did restart it but it's still violet |
| 16:51.44 | Ownage | I'll try root |
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| 16:55.49 | Ownage | there we go |
| 16:57.08 | Ownage | trying to change marine's model to it like in the tutorial.. doesn't let me click OK. what does that usually mean? |
| 17:02.11 | Ownage | oh now it works weird |
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| 17:06.32 | Ownage | so the fix was to download the oldest version of the m3 plugni |
| 17:06.36 | Ownage | plugin* |
| 17:06.46 | Ownage | then there were two lines in the script that needed to be changed |
| 17:08.30 | Ownage | commenting out this line: local fname = "d:\_Projects\SCII_imp_exp\exp_tst\vol.m3" |
| 17:08.42 | Ownage | and uncommenting out this line: local fname = getSaveFileName types:"M3 model (*.m3)|*.m3|All Files|*.*|" |
| 17:08.50 | Ownage | and also a third line which caused an error |
| 17:09.34 | Ownage | commenting out this line: if (curMap.mapChannel > 1) then layr.uvChannel = bit.set layr.uvChannel 1 true |
| 17:09.49 | Ownage | after that you can export without any bones or trick tests or malarkey |
| 17:09.51 | Eagles | Is there anyway I can inspect effects inside the editor? I want a warp in effect on my trigger but all the effects I try yield nothing. |
| 17:10.07 | twodie | ownage well great |
| 17:10.14 | Ownage | inspect like watch it? |
| 17:10.20 | Eagles | yes |
| 17:10.20 | twodie | how those models will work now in the game????????? |
| 17:10.29 | Ownage | twodie, work great, I have just tried one :) |
| 17:10.40 | Ownage | Eagles, yes you can watch it |
| 17:11.07 | Ownage | go to data |
| 17:11.35 | Eagles | ok |
| 17:11.39 | Ownage | type in 'warp in' in search un the models tab |
| 17:11.44 | Ownage | if there isn't a models tab add it |
| 17:12.06 | Ownage | 'art and sound data' is its parent inside the + tab |
| 17:12.16 | Ownage | let me know when youre done |
| 17:12.54 | Eagles | ok i am in the models tab and searched for warp in |
| 17:13.04 | Ownage | on the left, choose one |
| 17:13.10 | Ownage | I chose mothership warp in |
| 17:13.19 | Ownage | on the right, find art: model |
| 17:13.25 | Ownage | double click the value of it |
| 17:13.28 | Ownage | then you can see it |
| 17:13.40 | Eagles | oh very nice thank you |
| 17:13.47 | Ownage | sure |
| 17:14.44 | Ownage | twodie, http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/663/screenshot2013031711124.jpg |
| 17:14.52 | Ownage | (I play with lowest quality) |
| 17:15.18 | twodie | heh... |
| 17:15.59 | Eagles | nice |
| 17:16.15 | Ownage | that's a chest from diablo 3 :) |
| 17:16.19 | Ownage | looking for something cooler now |
| 17:18.29 | iMisu | anyone know of a lib that has mouse aiming ? |
| 17:24.37 | Ownage | http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/92/capturefhe.png |
| 17:24.57 | Ownage | pretty dope for a bridge or something |
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| 17:38.07 | twodie | Ownage without bones and animations model is useless |
| 17:38.31 | Ownage | it has bones |
| 17:38.41 | Ownage | and I don't need animation, still good for background |
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| 17:40.12 | Zolden | twodie: in art tools you don't need bones |
| 17:41.54 | twodie | http://snag.gy/A6xVn.jpg |
| 17:43.15 | twodie | http://snag.gy/yHo5P.jpg |
| 17:45.17 | twodie | so yeah... gives good feel of confusion these flags |
| 17:56.05 | Eagles | I haven't been using the editor that long, is it possible to make strings like this: ("%1 has become active! Stop it, %2!", derp, herp) or do I need to spam my face out of Combine Text? |
| 17:59.50 | A1win | Expressions |
| 18:00.21 | A1win | uses ~A~ ~B~ instead of %1 %2 but otherwise kind of the same thing |
| 18:00.34 | A1win | also works for integers, reals, and text |
| 18:01.20 | Eagles | Oh wow, that's amazing |
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| 18:05.08 | twodie | lol |
| 18:05.13 | twodie | ordered patrol command |
| 18:05.16 | twodie | game crashed |
| 18:12.36 | Eagles | Sorry for all the questions, but is it possible to create a Tutorial page without the movie part? I'd prefer not using the Tip Alert as I want one page per tip |
| 18:13.55 | Ownage | http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/3371/captureik.png |
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| 18:14.28 | Eagles | :O |
| 18:19.54 | Ahli | no animate it |
| 18:19.57 | Ahli | *now |
| 18:20.24 | Ownage | hail nah |
| 18:20.42 | Ownage | I think I will texture it like an old statue or something |
| 18:23.09 | twodie | worthless work then will be :/ |
| 18:24.03 | Ownage | it's already got worth |
| 18:24.43 | twodie | for being nothing... |
| 18:25.12 | Ownage | cry |
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| 18:26.09 | twodie | derp |
| 18:26.36 | Zolden | duckrp |
| 18:27.25 | duckies | ..quack? |
| 18:28.06 | gtg | hey |
| 18:28.12 | gtg | how do i use custom map preview image |
| 18:28.29 | gtg | there is onlyh asset. i can't find my document |
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| 18:34.03 | Totservis | you can imprt your document into your map and then use it :) |
| 18:34.08 | Totservis | *import |
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| 18:36.27 | gtg | i clicked browser |
| 18:36.32 | gtg | i see only export |
| 18:36.38 | gtg | there is no import |
| 18:36.49 | Ownage | man this is fun... http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/9589/screenshot2013031712353.jpg |
| 18:37.24 | Ahli | is that diablo's texture? |
| 18:37.28 | Ownage | yup |
| 18:37.47 | Ownage | didn't change one thing, just looks that good right off the bat |
| 18:38.08 | Totservis | you have import manager in the editor itself - there you can import and export things to and from your map |
| 18:38.23 | Totservis | *gtg: |
| 18:38.25 | Totservis | :D |
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| 18:44.01 | Dustin | sooo |
| 18:44.30 | Dustin | On dependencies do that swarm ones contain the liberty data too? cause its bitching to me about confilciting data? |
| 18:49.45 | sharf | ok so...blanking right now |
| 18:49.48 | Ahli | swarm has liberty within, yes |
| 18:49.51 | sharf | how do I make a passive ability?\ |
| 18:50.06 | Bounty | I think Blizzard broke mod dependancies again |
| 18:50.14 | Ahli | but for example multi has no range upgrade stuff that liberty multi contains |
| 18:50.28 | Bounty | I noticed that my loading screen doesnt always load, and my music does not always play, and they are both located int he mod |
| 18:50.40 | sharf | hrm... |
| 18:50.58 | Ahli | loading screens need to be inside the map |
| 18:51.08 | Bounty | what about music |
| 18:51.10 | Ahli | my music is in mods and works |
| 18:51.11 | Bounty | explain that |
| 18:51.23 | Bounty | do u have multiple tracks in one music file? |
| 18:51.47 | Ahli | I alter music depending on the area you are in. it's played as music |
| 18:52.07 | Ahli | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:52.59 | Ahli | aaaIntro contains a sound that has the type music and links to the .ogg |
| 18:53.06 | Bounty | you dont use soundtrack? |
| 18:53.23 | Ahli | aaaIntro is a soundtrack |
| 18:54.14 | Bounty | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:54.22 | Bounty | doesnt always play and sometimes it stops after one track ends |
| 18:54.28 | Bounty | instead of going to another random track within it |
| 18:55.17 | Ahli | maybe the tracks are broken. Blizzard uses a single sound for their music, too |
| 18:55.40 | Ahli | 1 soundtrack -> 1 sound -> multiple files |
| 18:55.48 | Bounty | yeah thats what i do |
| 18:56.05 | Ahli | parent is MUSIC? |
| 18:56.10 | Bounty | yep |
| 18:56.23 | Ahli | everything is gray? |
| 18:56.38 | Ahli | besides assets and maybe volume and whatever |
| 18:56.41 | Bounty | except for volume and assets |
| 18:56.43 | Bounty | yep |
| 18:56.49 | Ahli | then... no idea |
| 18:56.52 | sharf | ok I can't get this to work wtf |
| 18:59.12 | Ahli | passive ability? autocast or what? |
| 18:59.36 | sharf | passive but I think...I might have been missing something |
| 18:59.51 | sharf | nope... |
| 18:59.53 | sharf | ok so |
| 18:59.57 | sharf | I want a levelable passive |
| 19:00.04 | sharf | that applies a certain buff depending on the level |
| 19:00.57 | Repo | New announcement: Swarm Launch Personal Post-Coverage - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/swarm-launch-personal-post-coverage/ |
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| 19:22.25 | Bounty | I hate Blizzard |
| 19:22.43 | Bounty | I want those damn physics effects but i dont want HoTS lol |
| 19:26.56 | gtg | i like blizzard north |
| 19:27.01 | Reaperguyver | lol |
| 19:40.40 | progammer | i hate blizzard too, but not the proper noun |
| 19:52.39 | Ahli | http://i.imgur.com/0J3rP2A.jpg |
| 19:53.15 | Zolden | Ahli: what is the reason you post this image? |
| 19:53.41 | Ahli | 100k for a single sc2 stream |
| 19:53.44 | Zolden | yea |
| 19:53.47 | Ahli | record |
| 19:53.48 | Zolden | alot |
| 19:54.04 | Zolden | are games still going on? |
| 19:54.07 | Zolden | i'd watch one |
| 19:54.29 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLGSC2 score is 1 - 1 |
| 19:54.46 | Zolden | and how much to win should they have? |
| 19:55.37 | Ahli | 3 |
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| 19:57.33 | Zolden | it's pausing every few seconds ;/ |
| 19:57.50 | Zolden | resolution doesn't matter |
| 19:58.47 | Zolden | is mule model changed in hots? |
| 19:59.07 | Zolden | wow, he built a marine! so pro! |
| 20:02.05 | Zolden | lol |
| 20:02.07 | Zolden | nice drop |
| 20:10.44 | G0A | Ahli do you know how many watch lol streams? |
| 20:12.11 | Zolden | 109k |
| 20:12.17 | G0A | :) |
| 20:12.30 | G0A | Flash micro not enough:D |
| 20:12.43 | Ahli | crazy TvT |
| 20:13.38 | Zolden | FUCKING NOOB LOST UNSIEGED TANKS!!! |
| 20:13.58 | G0A | yeah, lets run tanks into marines... |
| 20:14.09 | Zolden | do medivacs have some kind of faster move abil? |
| 20:14.39 | Zolden | sometimes they seem moving faster |
| 20:15.45 | A1win | yeah, cooldown abil |
| 20:16.19 | A1win | ignite afterburners I think it's called |
| 20:16.36 | G0A | It has no visual effect? |
| 20:16.37 | Eagles | If such exists, what is the name of the trigger/function which takes a unit property like Bounty and turns it into a Text/String? |
| 20:16.43 | Zolden | nice, i always wanted something like this |
| 20:16.45 | Zolden | i like drops |
| 20:17.07 | A1win | Eagles, Convert Real To Text/String, and Unit Property for that |
| 20:17.21 | A1win | unit properties are Real type values |
| 20:17.43 | Bounty | I think im gonna add more customization options JAdemusSreg |
| 20:18.05 | G0A | These "physics" effects are so unrealistic, marines fly like birds.D |
| 20:18.49 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 20:19.30 | Zolden | omg |
| 20:19.39 | G0A | OMG |
| 20:19.48 | G0A | what a bad decision. |
| 20:19.55 | twodie | cruel |
| 20:20.38 | G0A | and now missile turrets... |
| 20:21.06 | gtg | how do i make 3 vs 3 tug of war? |
| 20:21.56 | gtg | my team is wrong always |
| 20:21.59 | Eagles | Thanks a lot A1win |
| 20:22.05 | gtg | team 1 is spanwed in team 2 |
| 20:22.07 | gtg | etc |
| 20:22.11 | gtg | so confused |
| 20:22.34 | gtg | any example map? |
| 20:24.26 | Zolden | no hots units used ;/ |
| 20:26.37 | Zolden | motherfuckers |
| 20:26.39 | Ahli | terran has no real hots units |
| 20:26.41 | G0A | :) |
| 20:26.48 | Ahli | widow mine... yeah |
| 20:26.54 | G0A | :) |
| 20:26.55 | Zolden | why didn't flash smile |
| 20:27.04 | Ahli | flash is not impressed |
| 20:27.14 | gtg | i wish terran can use wings of liberty units |
| 20:27.26 | Zolden | i'd fuckyeah'd for 5 minutes if i'd win it |
| 20:29.25 | gtg | help me |
| 20:29.37 | gtg | how do i make 3 vs 3 tug of war map |
| 20:30.02 | Dustin | Wha |
| 20:30.08 | twodie | asff |
| 20:30.08 | twodie | eqwqw |
| 20:30.10 | twodie | qeqweqasd |
| 20:30.14 | Dustin | Are you asking us how to create a whole map? |
| 20:30.18 | Eagles | Uhh, can I use a game link to get a unit property? I have a game link array with the waves of units I want. A1win |
| 20:30.40 | A1win | well there's unit type property too |
| 20:31.09 | gtg | player in team 1 is spawned in team 2 region |
| 20:31.17 | A1win | do you mean it's a unit type array? sounds like it should be |
| 20:31.22 | gtg | anyone got 3 vs 3 tug of war map? |
| 20:31.25 | Dustin | Well why did you code it to do that? |
| 20:31.31 | G0A | Lol game analysis after the game. |
| 20:31.34 | Dustin | I dont undertand the question |
| 20:31.44 | gtg | start location |
| 20:31.49 | nooblark | gtg, more than likely, your triggers are wrong for the team set up |
| 20:32.01 | gtg | i dont use triggers |
| 20:32.07 | Eagles | a1win oh yes, sorry it is a unit type array. my bad- that should help thanks >< |
| 20:32.11 | gtg | i used team placement |
| 20:32.24 | nooblark | how is it a tug of war with no trigger? :O |
| 20:32.37 | G0A | Its possible.D |
| 20:32.42 | Dustin | I dont think Team Palcement works unless its melee map |
| 20:32.49 | nooblark | i was about to say that dustin |
| 20:32.50 | nooblark | :P |
| 20:32.51 | gtg | it is like melee map |
| 20:33.04 | gtg | 3 players spawn in team 1 region |
| 20:33.11 | gtg | others spawn in team 2 |
| 20:33.18 | G0A | still 106k view |
| 20:33.23 | Dustin | But you said its a tug of war map |
| 20:33.29 | Dustin | So its not melee |
| 20:33.45 | Ahli | the other stream doesn't show sc2, so everyone is watching that one stream |
| 20:33.59 | gtg | ok it is not matter tug of war or whateve |
| 20:34.17 | gtg | i want to make 3 players spawn in team 1 region |
| 20:34.23 | Dustin | Use triggers |
| 20:34.37 | gtg | any example map? |
| 20:34.42 | gtg | i think there are many maps |
| 20:34.47 | sharf | ok question |
| 20:35.00 | gtg | i can't find the map with keywords 3 vs 3 custom map |
| 20:35.05 | sharf | how would I go about changing a unit's actor if they have an ablity at a certain level? |
| 20:35.27 | gtg | i dont think i have time to click all the pages to find the map |
| 20:35.29 | Dustin | You dont want just 3v3 custom map |
| 20:35.38 | Dustin | You want trigger team management triggers |
| 20:35.53 | nooblark | and conditional things for the units |
| 20:36.01 | gtg | what is team management trigger |
| 20:36.06 | Dustin | But really it sounds like you need to go read some tutorials on how the map editor works on sc2 mapster |
| 20:36.07 | nooblark | like certain areas they get moved, and limited to that space |
| 20:36.18 | gtg | i clicked tutorial |
| 20:36.22 | gtg | i see wiki |
| 20:36.31 | gtg | i typed keywords. nothing happens. |
| 20:36.44 | nooblark | why does the kerrigan splash screen have lip gloss on? |
| 20:36.54 | gtg | 3 players must not spawn in team 1 region. |
| 20:37.00 | nooblark | wtf is blizzard thinking :P |
| 20:37.08 | Dustin | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/ |
| 20:37.19 | Dustin | See why are you being so generic |
| 20:37.28 | Dustin | That's specifc to your map |
| 20:37.41 | sharf | 01how would I go about changing a unit's actor if they have an ablity at a certain level?01 |
| 20:37.41 | Dustin | You jsut want to know how to handle players and unit spawning with triggers |
| 20:37.42 | A1win | nooblark, that's like the first think I'd evolve myself with if I was a zerg woman |
| 20:37.58 | gtg | hey |
| 20:38.02 | nooblark | lol a1 |
| 20:38.05 | gtg | i cant find any tutorial on 3 vs 3 team |
| 20:38.15 | Dustin | Are you even listening to me? |
| 20:38.17 | gtg | even if i search forum with keywords |
| 20:38.33 | Eagles | gtg did you set up game variants? |
| 20:38.38 | nooblark | at least make it a bloody color, not pink. i can see zerg seeing a potential mate as one who has recently eaten flesh. |
| 20:38.42 | gtg | i am listening to you |
| 20:38.48 | Ahli | obviously that is some wax for the lotus effect to always have clean lips |
| 20:38.59 | nooblark | lol |
| 20:39.29 | gtg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/2100-tutorial-listing/#p1 |
| 20:39.48 | gtg | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/?search=3+vs+3+team |
| 20:39.51 | gtg | there is nothing |
| 20:40.28 | sharf | a1, nooblark |
| 20:40.29 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5bTIPZzaIE have a hardcounter |
| 20:40.33 | sharf | I need help lol |
| 20:40.41 | nooblark | i don't know shit about data :P |
| 20:40.53 | sharf | feh |
| 20:41.06 | gtg | hey eagle |
| 20:41.14 | gtg | how do i do |
| 20:41.17 | nooblark | you can do it via triggers, or data. one is probably better, depending how the actor is being changed |
| 20:41.34 | sharf | well I can't figure it out in data |
| 20:41.35 | Eagles | gtg Did you check out Team Placement (Advanced)? |
| 20:41.41 | gtg | i dont know how to pm here |
| 20:41.51 | gtg | i checked it |
| 20:42.19 | gtg | i used only team placement |
| 20:42.28 | gtg | team set up in lobby is fine |
| 20:42.34 | iMisu | i hate the people that talk during the whole game replay |
| 20:42.36 | iMisu | that is so dumb |
| 20:42.47 | gtg | but enemy player is spawned in my team region |
| 20:42.48 | iMisu | hello i have eye i can see... >.> |
| 20:43.09 | Eagles | What about the blind people iMisu |
| 20:43.21 | iMisu | they can't play sc2 |
| 20:44.55 | nooblark | you mean commentators? |
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| 20:45.04 | gtg | hey |
| 20:45.09 | iMisu | yah commentator |
| 20:45.11 | iMisu | i don't like |
| 20:45.13 | gtg | can anyone help me |
| 20:45.21 | iMisu | i don't watch replay with commentator |
| 20:45.25 | nooblark | you |
| 20:45.28 | nooblark | are not taz! |
| 20:45.32 | G0A | spidermine + light speed medivac, ok I wont play against terrans anymore |
| 20:45.32 | nooblark | hi :P |
| 20:45.43 | iMisu | i have my own computer |
| 20:45.46 | nooblark | i know. |
| 20:46.14 | gtg | how do i make this happen? 123 players spawn in region 1, 456 players spawn in region 2. and random start location. |
| 20:46.28 | iMisu | me an taz work on map together :D |
| 20:46.48 | nooblark | g2g, there is a funamental flaw with that. players 123 are not necessarily the people on team 1 |
| 20:46.49 | gtg | 456 players spawn in only 456 start location |
| 20:46.52 | nooblark | gtg* |
| 20:47.05 | nooblark | yah? what map? |
| 20:47.17 | gtg | no map |
| 20:47.21 | gtg | i just want to do this |
| 20:49.02 | gtg | anyone? |
| 20:49.32 | iMisu | advanced team placement |
| 20:50.19 | iMisu | at top click map, go to Teamp Placement Adanced |
| 20:50.32 | iMisu | you put there what you want |
| 20:52.12 | iMisu | is a library where you point mouse unit point and when you left click it shoot ?> |
| 20:53.28 | iMisu | shoot where u point |
| 20:55.30 | Dustin | iMisu, what? |
| 20:55.53 | iMisu | i have wasd movement on unit without first person |
| 20:56.05 | iMisu | i need lib so that, where i point unit shoot |
| 20:56.08 | iMisu | and left click to shoot |
| 20:56.40 | Dustin | Oh you need one, what you asked, is if a library was where you had mouse to shoot |
| 20:56.57 | iMisu | yah that what i want |
| 20:57.00 | Dustin | I dont know of any made librarys, but it's not hard |
| 20:57.20 | Dustin | Do you wnt to use Data or Triggers? |
| 20:57.24 | iMisu | trigger |
| 20:57.39 | Dustin | hold on let me open my Top Down Shooter map |
| 20:57.49 | iMisu | you have top down shooter? |
| 20:57.55 | iMisu | that kinda what i make already |
| 20:58.02 | Dustin | yes, it's fun |
| 20:58.07 | progammer | i so regret putting d3 on my sc2 account, now i'm still being spammed with gold seller friend request |
| 20:58.23 | iMisu | can i use some of you work |
| 20:58.25 | iMisu | ? |
| 20:58.47 | Ahli | I don't get these spams anymore |
| 20:58.56 | Dustin | http://peeeq.de/gui.php?id=3034 |
| 20:58.56 | Ahli | Blizzard made a cap or something |
| 20:59.12 | Dustin | Thats the trigger I use for shooting the different projectiles |
| 20:59.21 | iMisu | is ur map publish |
| 20:59.39 | Dustin | yes, Top Down Fighters |
| 20:59.44 | iMisu | okay i go play |
| 20:59.46 | iMisu | for test |
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| 21:01.04 | isunmonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:01.19 | isunmonkey | But overlord still has speed upgrade when this is triggered |
| 21:02.02 | iMisu | do you have library for your shooting and movement ? |
| 21:02.11 | Dustin | No |
| 21:03.37 | iMisu | can you send me map for movement and shoot ? |
| 21:04.02 | iMisu | or paste xml for trigger movement and shoot ? |
| 21:04.32 | Dustin | Its triggers so I cant paste any xml :P |
| 21:04.36 | gtg | i used team placement advanced. it doesnt work properly |
| 21:04.44 | gtg | it works in only lobby |
| 21:04.48 | iMisu | yah you can paste trigger from component |
| 21:05.12 | iMisu | looks like this |
| 21:05.15 | iMisu | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> |
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| 21:05.18 | iMisu | <TriggerData> |
| 21:05.20 | iMisu | <Library Id="1"> |
| 21:05.23 | iMisu | <Root> |
| 21:05.26 | iMisu | <Item Type="Trigger" Library="1" Id="584CABDF"/> |
| 21:05.28 | iMisu | <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8"?> |
| 21:05.30 | iMisu | <TriggerData> |
| 21:05.33 | iMisu | <Library Id="1"> |
| 21:05.35 | iMisu | <Root> |
| 21:05.36 | Dustin | It's not a library |
| 21:05.38 | adsf_ | hey |
| 21:05.38 | JademusSreg | XML gui library data. |
| 21:05.39 | iMisu | <Item Type="Trigger" Library="1" Id="584CABDF"/> |
| 21:05.43 | JademusSreg | Oh. |
| 21:05.45 | iMisu | yah |
| 21:05.48 | adsf_ | placement advanced works only in lobby |
| 21:05.49 | JademusSreg | Map gui trigger data. |
| 21:05.59 | adsf_ | can anyone help me or give me example map |
| 21:06.07 | JademusSreg | Of what? |
| 21:06.21 | iMisu | dustin make good shoot trigger i want |
| 21:06.24 | iMisu | i was request :O |
| 21:06.31 | G0A | Booomer:D |
| 21:06.49 | Dustin | Lol misu, ill give you a map that is less full of crap |
| 21:06.53 | Dustin | But uses the same systems |
| 21:06.55 | Dustin | Hold on |
| 21:06.57 | iMisu | please do |
| 21:07.14 | JademusSreg | Who is asking for what here? =D |
| 21:07.25 | iMisu | dustin help me with nice shooter stuff |
| 21:08.09 | adsf_ | i want to make this happen. 123 players must spawn in 123 start location randomly, 456 players spawn in 456 start location randomly. |
| 21:08.34 | iMisu | that not hard adsf_ |
| 21:08.35 | iMisu | I help u |
| 21:08.41 | adsf_ | help me |
| 21:08.47 | iMisu | I make for you and send okay |
| 21:08.55 | JademusSreg | This should be good. |
| 21:09.17 | iMisu | im still learning trigger |
| 21:09.23 | iMisu | But I try lol |
| 21:09.26 | Zolden | JademusSreg: have you ever heard "metropolis №2" albbum of dream theater? |
| 21:10.15 | JademusSreg | Sounds familiar, actually. I've not listened to it that I recall, but may have been around it, I know some people into it. |
| 21:11.16 | Zolden | I suspect you may like it, it's a pretty high quality prog which tells a story |
| 21:11.21 | JademusSreg | iM, I mean only that it is a perfect comedic setup, whereby one party antagonizes another. |
| 21:11.38 | Dustin | iMisu, |
| 21:11.42 | JademusSreg | I'll check it out; Spotify is excellent in that capacity. |
| 21:11.45 | nooblark | i'm so over this campaign, blizzard had years to devlop it, and it's so bugged |
| 21:11.46 | Dustin | I pmed you the link to the top down fighters map |
| 21:12.18 | iMisu | JademusSreg |
| 21:12.21 | iMisu | I don't know what u say |
| 21:12.26 | iMisu | mean* |
| 21:13.41 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 21:14.32 | Zolden | G0A: ask JademusSreg about anything please, I want to see how will he shorten your nick when answer (he shortens nicks) |
| 21:14.43 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 21:14.57 | JademusSreg | I resort to Goa. |
| 21:15.07 | Dustin | JademusSreg, |
| 21:15.07 | adsf_ | not yet? |
| 21:15.13 | Dustin | Did you ever play SC1 UMS maps? |
| 21:15.32 | JademusSreg | Yes. Didn't much enjoy them, but they had some cool ideas. |
| 21:15.45 | Dustin | Every play that smash tv map? |
| 21:16.26 | JademusSreg | I'd need to see something to refresh my memory; it's been almost 15 years. |
| 21:17.00 | JademusSreg | (Rounding to the nearest lazy number.) |
| 21:18.44 | JademusSreg | Oh, was it the one with all the gates? |
| 21:21.51 | JademusSreg | I remember being ridiculously impressed with a map that made excellent use of gates to control the flow of the game. |
| 21:23.30 | iMisu | dustin thank you for this triggers |
| 21:23.31 | G0A | JademusSreg does Protoss sucks in HOTS? |
| 21:24.08 | JademusSreg | I don't have HotS, per se. I have all the data and assets, though, if you'd like to take a look. |
| 21:25.09 | G0A | yeah data mine that which race is the weakest.D |
| 21:25.28 | G0A | btw SC2 MLG has 120k view LOL MLG has only 95k view:D |
| 21:25.46 | JademusSreg | Match in progress? |
| 21:26.08 | G0A | yes |
| 21:26.16 | JademusSreg | Link meh, plez. |
| 21:26.35 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLGSC2 not in progress |
| 21:26.43 | G0A | http://en.twitch.tv/team/mlg |
| 21:26.45 | JademusSreg | Thanks, Ahli. |
| 21:27.11 | JademusSreg | And Goa. |
| 21:27.31 | JademusSreg | Twitch wants me to enable JS, so no. |
| 21:27.33 | G0A | you didnt shorten my name, I am angry! |
| 21:27.40 | G0A | haha |
| 21:28.03 | JademusSreg | I put less effort into typing it, I assure you; no zero and lower case. |
| 21:28.11 | G0A | HAAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:28.25 | G0A | was that dc? |
| 21:28.35 | JademusSreg | dc? |
| 21:28.40 | G0A | wasnt watching the stream just listening |
| 21:28.50 | G0A | Disconnect on stream. |
| 21:28.58 | JademusSreg | It's streaming for me. |
| 21:29.01 | G0A | I mean disconnect on bnet |
| 21:31.09 | JademusSreg | Holy crap. |
| 21:31.32 | G0A | GG |
| 21:31.38 | JademusSreg | I must say, that's absurd. |
| 21:33.18 | JademusSreg | Life is droning, MC is still in, but looks super doomed. |
| 21:33.35 | JademusSreg | Talk about a micro game. |
| 21:33.56 | JademusSreg | Damn advertisement. |
| 21:34.18 | Bounty | maybe i should just say fuck it and release it now JademusSreg |
| 21:34.23 | Bounty | not getting any testers the whole weekend |
| 21:34.24 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:34.55 | Ahli | I've no advertisements... =/ |
| 21:35.02 | Ahli | I even disabled adblock |
| 21:35.32 | JademusSreg | I'd advise not to settle for anything less than what you want, Bounty. =D |
| 21:35.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:36.01 | JademusSreg | It was a flash splash over the player, and was fighting with it to render. |
| 21:37.26 | JademusSreg | I'll just leave the inspector open and delete its goddamn node next time it pops up. |
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| 21:39.22 | Taintedwisp | 14 missions completed on brutal :P |
| 21:39.27 | Taintedwisp | there are 3 missions that scare me though |
| 21:39.32 | Taintedwisp | Ones I failed at on hard haha |
| 21:41.07 | Taintedwisp | so how is everyone? |
| 21:41.16 | JademusSreg | Operable. |
| 21:41.42 | Ahli | some of us are busy watching something together with 120k other people |
| 21:41.54 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLGSC2 |
| 21:42.47 | G0A | just imagine how many will watch such events in 20 years.D |
| 21:43.49 | adsf_ | events in 20 yrs? |
| 21:44.02 | G0A | mlg |
| 21:45.42 | Ahli | they might play starcraft 3's second expansion |
| 21:45.47 | adsf_ | there will be no mlg in 20 yrs maybe |
| 21:45.59 | adsf_ | i saw so many people are gone |
| 21:46.07 | adsf_ | so many sc1 pro gamers are gone |
| 21:46.17 | adsf_ | they all failed. |
| 21:46.22 | adsf_ | it is like miracle |
| 21:46.23 | G0A | adsf_ thats why I said event |
| 21:46.38 | G0A | Flash is the finals! |
| 21:46.41 | adsf_ | the next generation and old generation made it. |
| 21:46.44 | G0A | in* |
| 21:46.49 | Ahli | I assume e-sports will survive whatever the next generations will do |
| 21:46.58 | G0A | yeah |
| 21:46.59 | Ahli | thanks to internet |
| 21:47.06 | adsf_ | you dont know how many hardships they faced |
| 21:47.19 | adsf_ | too many efforts even if people hate |
| 21:47.22 | adsf_ | government hate |
| 21:47.35 | G0A | I hope e-sport will kill real sports, watching who can dope more games aint fun. |
| 21:47.54 | Bounty | I hope both of them crash and burn |
| 21:47.55 | Bounty | lol |
| 21:48.02 | adsf_ | people must do what they can do very well and they like |
| 21:48.10 | adsf_ | people must do what they are good at. |
| 21:48.23 | G0A | adsf_ than I must do porn! |
| 21:48.39 | adsf_ | i dont give a shit of porn GOA |
| 21:48.48 | adsf_ | i like pvp skill fight |
| 21:50.02 | G0A | 3-0 :( |
| 21:50.11 | JademusSreg | No idea what is being discussed. Wherever that train was going, we'll never know, as it has gone off the rails. |
| 21:51.03 | JademusSreg | Life has won. |
| 21:52.04 | JademusSreg | Going air. |
| 21:59.07 | Ahli | 3rd place match is next |
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| 22:14.30 | JademusSreg | Another editor string dump to get layout data. Will need to do another with more precision later, but I'm seeing a number of tags I've not seen implemented before. |
| 22:14.32 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 22:14.59 | Ahli | tags? |
| 22:15.13 | JademusSreg | Yeah, various attributes and elements. |
| 22:15.40 | JademusSreg | And some of the layout "primitives", if I understand it correctly. |
| 22:18.06 | JademusSreg | I'm working out the limits of layout stuff, as I see some awesome potential for quality and more efficient implementations of, say, dialog controls. =D |
| 22:19.23 | JademusSreg | Starting with which tags and such are implemented for which types. |
| 22:20.59 | JademusSreg | I enjoy the spritesheet approach to their animations, rather reminiscent of webdev. |
| 22:23.16 | G0A | finally I see DT-s in a real pro game |
| 22:26.15 | Zolden | JademusSreg: so, there is a mechanism to play sprites? from 1 texture? |
| 22:27.15 | Zolden | for how long will mlg be going on? soon i'll finish mapping and want to watch it a bit |
| 22:27.42 | Zolden | hope they will show some tricky using of hots units |
| 22:27.54 | Ahli | when behind, dark shrine |
| 22:28.20 | Zolden | i want dark shrimp zerg unit |
| 22:30.10 | Eagles | Is there anything for visibility like the Dynamic Pathing Fill? I want my players to have visibilty of cliff level 1 but not 2.. |
| 22:30.43 | G0A | Zolden I think it will be about 2 more hour mlg |
| 22:30.56 | Zolden | nice |
| 22:31.16 | progammer | is final bo7 ? its gonna be much more than 2h |
| 22:31.24 | G0A | now for 3rd place than finals |
| 22:31.39 | progammer | wait till you got a 1h20min game |
| 22:31.46 | G0A | yeah |
| 22:31.49 | Ahli | dunno... I personally expect bo7 in finals |
| 22:31.59 | G0A | but so many fast games now:D |
| 22:34.10 | JademusSreg | Yes, Zol. |
| 22:34.29 | JademusSreg | Turns out UI frames of type image can do it. |
| 22:35.04 | JademusSreg | For an example, look at StreamingIndicatorFrame in the StandardTemplates in the UI editor. |
| 22:36.25 | Ahli | can we add own ones? |
| 22:36.32 | Eagles | What do you guys think, is it ok practice to set hp/bounty/armor of a TD in Triggers instead of Data editor? |
| 22:36.51 | Ahli | why should that be bad? |
| 22:37.07 | Eagles | Once, I tried it and it lagged a lot, so I thought I was doing it wrong |
| 22:37.12 | Ahli | I made an entire defense that picks a random unit and sets its stats |
| 22:37.37 | Ahli | added 109 unit types to to it that can be spawned |
| 22:37.48 | Eagles | That unburdens my heart :P |
| 22:38.37 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKvREK0dQKI |
| 22:52.34 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 22:53.20 | JademusSreg | I assume we can add our own. This is my UED Expeditionary fleet to the KoprulUI sector. |
| 22:53.39 | Taintedwisp | MLG sucks... ITs very boring. none of the players ever take a big risk, and they always go with a set strategy. |
| 22:54.31 | G0A | Zolden you must make a model like this Hitler: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxWONd3ZOIc |
| 22:54.33 | Taintedwisp | Games are more fun when people think on their feet to continue, not think up timed strategies :( |
| 22:55.15 | Zolden | ha! |
| 22:55.20 | Zolden | go go starfish hitler! |
| 22:55.24 | Taintedwisp | GOA i dont know what to say to that.... |
| 22:55.31 | Taintedwisp | What is that Japan Power Rangers? |
| 22:56.37 | G0A | :) |
| 22:57.38 | JademusSreg | Humans are born optimizers. Convergence on successful optimizations, it is surely our curse. Now, if you want risky maneuvers and always-unpredictable players, you'll need thoroughly brain-damaged humans, or perhaps clever chimps. |
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| 22:59.12 | Ahli | whoops |
| 22:59.18 | Taintedwisp | Unpredictability is the greatest asset to strategy if used wisely :P I just dont see it agmonst the metagame |
| 22:59.23 | Taintedwisp | amongst. |
| 22:59.25 | Taintedwisp | dammit |
| 22:59.38 | Taintedwisp | among |
| 22:59.45 | JademusSreg | Ah, I then have the upperhand in my complete ignorance. |
| 22:59.53 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 23:00.30 | Taintedwisp | The best strategies are always thought up on the spot then Perfected over time. the problem is, In Sc2 The pros all share 2-3 strategies per race, and never create anyhting new |
| 23:01.15 | Taintedwisp | just 1 more mission in HoTS on brutal that was a pain in the ass on hard to go :P |
| 23:02.00 | JademusSreg | Ahli, you want to see the first dump of layout tags or wait for the more thorough second dump? |
| 23:02.55 | Eagles | Ahli, did you just set the property of each unit when it spawned then? |
| 23:09.03 | Zolden | that commentor did a good job |
| 23:09.04 | Zolden | so fast |
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| 23:09.35 | Ahli | first dump, second dump? what? |
| 23:10.16 | Ahli | I think I set the catalog of the unit |
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| 23:12.05 | JademusSreg | String dump from the exe. Grabbed strings 5+, Uni/ASCII, and can do a more targeted search from the memory addresses of the first dump. |
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| 23:25.14 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/MLGSC2 finals: flash vs life, bo7 |
| 23:25.30 | JademusSreg | Already there. pew pew |
| 23:27.42 | IskatuMesk | get a chance to look at the AI at all jade? |
| 23:27.45 | Eagles | Ok thanks Ahli. That's unexplored territory for me :-( |
| 23:30.02 | JademusSreg | Not yet. Been dissecting UI data. |
| 23:30.13 | JademusSreg | But AI is next up on the list. |
| 23:31.18 | JademusSreg | I should have something for ya tomorrow. Feel free to send me the map and anything else, in case the error is in there (which I doubt). |
| 23:32.31 | IskatuMesk | the map is over 100mb |
| 23:32.43 | IskatuMesk | it's extremely basic |
| 23:32.49 | IskatuMesk | so I don't think the error is there |
| 23:33.06 | IskatuMesk | I have a feeling that hots just purged the library entirely since I don't even see it in the map anymore |
| 23:33.12 | IskatuMesk | but the transports I have no idea |
| 23:33.22 | IskatuMesk | should be enough to put guys on an island and see if they auto lift or not |
| 23:33.26 | JademusSreg | Was it moved to the bottom left frame? |
| 23:33.39 | IskatuMesk | let me check |
| 23:33.42 | JademusSreg | 2.0.4 moved libraries from the top left to the bottom left. |
| 23:33.46 | isunmonkey | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.59 | isunmonkey | When I trigger this, Overlords for player 1 still have speed boost :( |
| 23:34.24 | isunmonkey | Do I have to manually adjust overlord speed instead of setting the tech to level 1? |
| 23:36.56 | JademusSreg | 1) Are you certain it is player 1? |
| 23:37.19 | isunmonkey | Am I certain what is player 1? |
| 23:37.33 | JademusSreg | 2) Is the upgrade reversible? Does it change values or is it utilized by requirements? |
| 23:37.50 | JademusSreg | Are you certain the player in question is player 1? =D |
| 23:38.00 | isunmonkey | How do I know if upgrade is reversible? |
| 23:38.09 | isunmonkey | I'm sure it's player 1 |
| 23:38.34 | JademusSreg | Alright, so upgrades are like the catalog actions in the triggers. |
| 23:39.02 | isunmonkey | I want to understand what that means, but I don't speak leet well enough :( |
| 23:39.24 | JademusSreg | You can set a catalog value, like say you change Overlord speed to 2.5, just like you could with an upgrade. |
| 23:39.41 | JademusSreg | But it' |
| 23:40.03 | JademusSreg | It's the initial application that matters; the upgrade isn't a buff, it changes the data for the player. |
| 23:40.48 | JademusSreg | If you want it to be reversible, you'd but a behavior on the unit and give it a requirement that depends on the upgrade, so that changing its level would toggle the behavior. |
| 23:40.53 | isunmonkey | ok; question: is there a simple way to reset all tech and to adjust catalog values to original? |
| 23:41.15 | isunmonkey | via trigger? |
| 23:42.16 | JademusSreg | Not of which I am aware. |
| 23:42.43 | isunmonkey | alrighty then |
| 23:42.44 | isunmonkey | thanks |
| 23:43.05 | IskatuMesk | sorry had to afk |
| 23:43.33 | JademusSreg | You'd need to track and reverse manually each thing individually, either with catalog or "reverse upgrades" haha. |
| 23:43.46 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 23:44.17 | IskatuMesk | yeah my libraries are n top left |
| 23:44.41 | IskatuMesk | I have the tacticool library but no defense one |
| 23:45.13 | IskatuMesk | and some swarm stuff... hmm |
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| 23:47.51 | progammer | that medievac abduct |
| 23:49.31 | Ahli | life's north base wins him the game |
| 23:55.57 | Zolden | who is winning? |
| 23:56.15 | progammer | life just got 1 match |
| 23:57.20 | Zolden | wow |
| 23:57.29 | Zolden | i thought flash isn't rapeable |
| 23:57.39 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 23:57.40 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 23:57.43 | Zolden | but life seems younger |
| 23:57.58 | Zolden | oh, and he's zerg |
| 23:58.00 | Zolden | interesting |
