| 00:00.14 | Zolden | lol |
| 00:00.17 | sharf | attached it to weaponleft on the dt (with scyth) and now 'm trying to rotate it |
| 00:00.20 | JademusSreg | Gonna need to do a third draft for the text, since neither Imbecile nor Dunce fit. Next is oblivious braggart in the style of Zapp Brannigan. |
| 00:00.21 | sharf | and |
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| 00:00.42 | Bounty4321 | u talking about the PS loading screen JademusSreg? |
| 00:00.45 | sharf | I don't understand the difference between forward and up... |
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| 00:00.54 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:01.02 | Bounty4321 | jeez |
| 00:01.06 | Taintedwisp | Foward == y axis up Z axis |
| 00:01.06 | Bounty4321 | working really hard on this one haha |
| 00:01.12 | Taintedwisp | Side == X axis |
| 00:01.26 | Skizot | dur? |
| 00:01.27 | sharf | except that |
| 00:01.30 | sharf | each of those |
| 00:01.35 | sharf | has an x, y and z |
| 00:01.36 | JademusSreg | Informative and humorous, that's my style. |
| 00:01.44 | sharf | also there is no side |
| 00:01.57 | Bounty4321 | Do you think the whole humorous thing fits the game though |
| 00:02.08 | Taintedwisp | Create a new Actor named SOpFlip with Actor Type: Site Operation (Explicit Rotation) set Forward: (0.0, -1.0, 0.0) set Is Local: Enabled set Up: (0.0, 0.0, -1.0) |
| 00:02.10 | Taintedwisp | There sharf |
| 00:02.28 | Taintedwisp | set Host Site Operations +: SOpBankerWraith and SOpFlip |
| 00:03.12 | sharf | frst off |
| 00:03.15 | sharf | banker wraith? |
| 00:03.17 | sharf | why? |
| 00:03.19 | sharf | second |
| 00:03.20 | Taintedwisp | SOpBankerWraith is a Site Operation made by Blizzard. It does not contribute to attaching models together |
| 00:03.25 | Taintedwisp | Nvm on the banker wraith |
| 00:03.27 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:03.33 | Taintedwisp | Reading a post about flipping a wraith |
| 00:03.35 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 00:03.37 | sharf | how the fuck did you know how to reverse it |
| 00:03.40 | sharf | oh |
| 00:03.42 | sharf | you looked it up |
| 00:03.43 | sharf | nvm |
| 00:03.46 | Taintedwisp | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/8926-data-working-with-attachments-beginner-difficulty/ |
| 00:03.48 | Taintedwisp | You should read that |
| 00:04.14 | sharf | I already had to use offset to make the other flame |
| 00:04.23 | sharf | hit the other side of the scythe |
| 00:04.31 | sharf | doing that flip though |
| 00:04.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:04.38 | sharf | made it too far out though... |
| 00:04.59 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:06.17 | Taintedwisp | I think Ill make some kind of monster :)) |
| 00:07.39 | xcorboMobile | Um |
| 00:08.46 | Taintedwisp | mu |
| 00:09.00 | sharf | I swear |
| 00:09.03 | sharf | if I have to use an offest |
| 00:09.05 | sharf | to move it back |
| 00:11.50 | Ahli | ladder naow :> |
| 00:19.05 | Ownage | what do I need to do to make it so a model is attached to a unit while they are using an ability |
| 00:19.34 | Ownage | do I have to do that with triggers or can I make it so the ability adds that model |
| 00:19.48 | Ownage | specifically I want to add a model onto a zealot when he's charging |
| 00:20.07 | sharf | so...getting this error when I try to save my map |
| 00:20.07 | sharf | Unable to move existing archive (Cannot create a file when that file already exists.): C:\Users\Jeff\Documents\StarCraft II\Maps\Town Defense v0.2.SC2Map |
| 00:20.17 | sharf | did it corrupt on me? |
| 00:22.32 | JademusSreg | Fairly common error for me when saving to dropbox or as SC2Components. Not certain what causes it. |
| 00:22.47 | sharf | was just saving the arcade map |
| 00:22.50 | sharf | nothing different |
| 00:22.54 | sharf | just did it all of a sudden |
| 00:23.27 | sharf | won't let me overwrte it |
| 00:23.28 | sharf | hrm |
| 00:23.58 | JademusSreg | Any chance something is accessing it besides the editor? |
| 00:24.13 | sharf | shouldn't be but I suppose |
| 00:24.19 | sharf | I just renamed it in explorer though |
| 00:24.58 | sharf | also...why do I keep getting an orphaned trigger paramter removed every time I save it? |
| 00:25.05 | Bounty4321 | JademusSreg, ready to see that mode? :) |
| 00:25.29 | sharf | that appears to be what is making it not save though... |
| 00:25.58 | JademusSreg | Sure. Be on in a few minutes. |
| 00:27.10 | JademusSreg | The orphaned trigger shit is a result of using Undo in GUI. |
| 00:27.26 | sharf | oh |
| 00:27.31 | sharf | undoing in the trigger gui? |
| 00:27.48 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:28.02 | sharf | gotcha |
| 00:28.28 | JademusSreg | Bounty, shit is opium-izing. |
| 00:28.33 | Bounty4321 | same |
| 00:28.35 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 00:29.12 | sharf | WHY |
| 00:29.17 | JademusSreg | Also, you gotta change your handle, man. I don't notice your messages as much, as I highlight "Bounty" in pink. |
| 00:29.31 | Bounty4321 | lol |
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| 00:30.22 | Bounty | Better? lol dont know why i added the 4321 |
| 00:30.34 | JademusSreg | Yesd. |
| 00:30.37 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 00:32.18 | Bounty | oh and i also made it so all friendly orbs are tinted green JademusSreg |
| 00:32.20 | Bounty | dont know if i told u that |
| 00:32.23 | Bounty | but its a big deal lol |
| 00:32.59 | JademusSreg | Ah, kk |
| 00:33.04 | JademusSreg | ~50% |
| 00:33.05 | purl | from memory, 50% is approximately 1/2 |
| 00:33.23 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:33.35 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:33.38 | JademusSreg | Well said, purl. |
| 00:34.16 | Ownage | purl, you're half right |
| 00:34.26 | Bounty | oh and i already sense the games demise Jade haha |
| 00:34.29 | Bounty | its getting no hits |
| 00:34.33 | Bounty | but w/e, i like it :) |
| 00:37.08 | JademusSreg | On. |
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| 00:38.20 | JademusSreg | Send the invite, Bounty. |
| 00:38.31 | Bounty | im at 47.9% |
| 00:38.33 | Bounty | for some reason |
| 00:38.36 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 00:38.40 | Bounty | anyway to speed this BS up |
| 00:40.27 | Bounty | alright its almost done JademusSreg |
| 00:40.32 | Bounty | its speeding up big time lol |
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| 00:40.36 | Bounty | annd |
| 00:41.00 | Bounty | stopped at 98.8 |
| 00:41.02 | Bounty | da fuq |
| 00:41.11 | Bounty | ok done |
| 00:41.29 | sharf | I'm so confused |
| 00:42.36 | JademusSreg | Bounty, Photon Synergy isn't public, so I expect it wouldn't have hits. Or do you mean the video? |
| 00:42.46 | Bounty | video and the threads |
| 00:54.29 | Bounty | bah i was gonna show u the other mode Jade |
| 00:54.32 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:54.37 | JademusSreg | Sorry. Phone |
| 00:54.38 | Bounty | always so quick to log off |
| 01:00.17 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 01:01.30 | JademusSreg | I feel the enemy needs a larger, most distinct profile and should be more preferential in its targets. Killing new spawns is also just plain bad. |
| 01:02.32 | Bounty | u have spawn immunity |
| 01:02.36 | Bounty | just dont break it lol |
| 01:02.50 | JademusSreg | Nope. It was breaking, like, immediately. |
| 01:03.03 | Bounty | yeah bc u used an ability :) |
| 01:03.53 | JademusSreg | I was expecting more of a Boss Battle, less of a target that moves and shoots. |
| 01:04.07 | Bounty | anyways, would you like to provide your input on the last mode i plan to put into the game before release? |
| 01:04.15 | Bounty | yeah i know |
| 01:04.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:04.29 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 01:04.31 | Bounty | i wanted him to just be an OP player |
| 01:04.32 | JademusSreg | I'm on. |
| 01:09.11 | sharf | which is better for making a mana shield? triggers or data? |
| 01:10.16 | progammer | data is better if you can do it |
| 01:10.58 | sharf | no idea how to do it via data though |
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| 01:21.35 | sharf | ok....next question, how do I make a demon huner esque metamorphosis ability? |
| 01:22.01 | Ownage | you mean like archon |
| 01:22.14 | sharf | kind of? |
| 01:22.18 | sharf | I want an ability for a hero |
| 01:22.26 | sharf | that when you click it, he morphs temporarily |
| 01:22.47 | Ownage | if you look at how burrow works it's kind of interesting |
| 01:23.13 | Ownage | you probably want something like archon |
| 01:23.28 | Ownage | the fact that you need two high templars is just coded in there |
| 01:23.32 | Ownage | imagine it with one |
| 01:23.35 | Triceron | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/881-data-morphing-buildings-guide/ not sure if this is what you're lookin for |
| 01:23.54 | Bounty | I expected more positiveness Jade haha |
| 01:24.03 | Bounty | Maybe you can only test my games while drunk |
| 01:24.10 | JademusSreg | Praise is less useful than criticism. |
| 01:24.20 | Bounty | I know, just joshin yeh |
| 01:24.22 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 01:24.36 | Bounty | But i dont like how i get your criticism once in a blue moon |
| 01:24.38 | sharf | hmm yeah kind of |
| 01:25.03 | Bounty | And everything you say, you're the only one so if it dont get you to test i never get to hear it |
| 01:25.11 | Bounty | Namsayin? |
| 01:25.23 | JademusSreg | Yes. I read that as other testers are pansies. |
| 01:25.32 | Bounty | no |
| 01:25.33 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:25.37 | Bounty | they just dont notice little things |
| 01:25.45 | Bounty | They look at the larger picture |
| 01:25.56 | Bounty | ahild you look at the little specs that make up that picture lol |
| 01:26.00 | Bounty | while* |
| 01:27.21 | Bounty | Its like if i put a tiny Justin Bieber sticker on the Mona Lisa... its not a big part of the picture but damn if people dont notice that shit and complain |
| 01:28.23 | JademusSreg | Anyway, faster base speed, passive regen, slight slow on active regen, and don't interrupt the gameplay for numbers going up. I wanted to click play again, not play Final Fantasy with a broken controller. |
| 01:28.50 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:29.21 | Bounty | the slow on the active regen will piss ppl off |
| 01:29.23 | Bounty | no more infinite sprint |
| 01:29.32 | JademusSreg | Slight. Sliiiiight. |
| 01:29.47 | JademusSreg | Enough that it makes it a meaningful choice. |
| 01:30.23 | JademusSreg | Do I passive regen and move at my brisk base speed or active regen and move slower, risking my capacity for evasion? |
| 01:30.24 | Bounty | alright |
| 01:30.42 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 01:30.54 | Bounty | ill put those thigns in for the next test session |
| 01:31.01 | Bounty | g2g to bed, work in the morning |
| 01:31.03 | Bounty | later |
| 01:31.52 | Ownage | is there a way to see previews of models |
| 01:32.04 | Ownage | without having to hit ctrl-space then clicking on the model |
| 01:33.42 | Ahli | can't change portrait on EU :< |
| 01:37.21 | Ahli | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1a6qhp/its_here_wait_what_the/ |
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| 01:47.47 | Triceron | rofl |
| 01:50.54 | Ahli | 1000. game now |
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| 02:16.55 | sharf | ok so...I think my map's corrupted... |
| 02:16.59 | sharf | how can I tell? |
| 02:17.49 | Ahli | does it accept money payments? |
| 02:18.27 | sharf | lol... |
| 02:18.48 | sharf | not helpful |
| 02:27.32 | ThunderLord | if i run a trigger with the event "Player leaves game" is it to late to save to their banks? |
| 02:27.40 | ThunderLord | or can i write to their banks as they leave the game? |
| 02:28.34 | Ahli | if they leave the game normally, it's fine. if they are dropped from the game... bad luck |
| 02:29.00 | Ahli | if it is crucial -> save periodically in randomized intervals or after change |
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| 02:44.15 | sharf | ok so...this tutorial seems out of date... |
| 02:48.40 | Ahli | for morphs, just do what Blizzard does |
| 02:48.58 | Ahli | ability + actor events for creating/destroying actors |
| 02:49.00 | sharf | yeah looking at that |
| 02:50.03 | Ahli | brb, playing last mission on brutal again to get achievement... I'm such a whore |
| 02:52.07 | sharf | so...why is my button not showing up... |
| 02:55.19 | Ahli | everyone in EU dropped... ;) |
| 02:55.32 | sharf | ok wtf |
| 03:00.25 | sharf | ok... |
| 03:00.35 | sharf | for some reason...my button isn't appearing on the command card |
| 03:04.30 | progammer | is mapster down for anyone ? |
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| 03:04.52 | progammer | curse seems to be down for me too |
| 03:05.34 | progammer | and others curse network site |
| 03:06.38 | Ahli | sc2 just crashed hard (no crash reporting module, win8 showing the solution search for application)... game froze, I heard loud beep sounds... |
| 03:07.23 | sharf | lol |
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| 03:07.37 | Dustin | Wow so these abilities to chose from on hots is pretty disappointing to me |
| 03:08.26 | sharf | ok so...this morph thing isn't working |
| 03:10.16 | iMisu | Well for one you have windows 8 |
| 03:10.26 | iMisu | Fucking fail |
| 03:10.33 | sharf | windows 8 is pretty boss |
| 03:10.42 | iMisu | LoL |
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| 03:13.24 | progammer | Dustin: don't want to spoil you but there is going to be a third column of ability for kerrigan later on |
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| 03:16.56 | sharf | ugh this morphing thing isn't working |
| 03:18.33 | JademusSreg | What manner or morph is it? |
| 03:18.35 | JademusSreg | *of |
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| 03:20.52 | sharf | well |
| 03:20.56 | sharf | it is just a morph ability |
| 03:21.07 | sharf | I want to make it like the demon hunter's metemorphosis |
| 03:21.12 | sharf | but |
| 03:21.17 | sharf | I can't get anything to work |
| 03:21.22 | sharf | the button wont show up in game |
| 03:24.07 | JademusSreg | If the button isn't showing up, then I'd expect either the command card button doesn't refer to the ability and its command and/or the ability lacks a command. |
| 03:24.40 | Ahli | button doesn't show up -> requirement of ability makes it not show OR command card information is incomplete (ability command, third dropdown, might be empty) |
| 03:26.22 | JademusSreg | Ah, I simply assumed he hadn't configured any requirements. |
| 03:27.04 | JademusSreg | But yes, if you have, then requirements may not be fulfilled or cannot be fulfilled. |
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| 03:28.24 | Ahli | if I start sc2, it crashes and gives me serious graphical errors |
| 03:31.06 | Ahli | hmmm, furmark is working fine |
| 03:32.27 | sharf | I have no requirements |
| 03:32.34 | sharf | the tutorial said I didn't need any |
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| 03:43.04 | sharf | oh god I'm retarded |
| 03:43.30 | Ahli | if you are able to say that, you learned something :D |
| 03:43.54 | sharf | lol |
| 03:44.01 | sharf | I accidentally added a requirement |
| 03:44.21 | sharf | how do I make the unit automatically warp back? |
| 03:45.18 | Ahli | warp back? automatically? when what is happening? |
| 03:45.24 | sharf | just after x time |
| 03:45.30 | sharf | like the demon hunter |
| 03:45.58 | Ahli | behavior, then order the target on behavior finish effect to morph back |
| 03:46.19 | Ahli | and yes, the morphing system is... strange |
| 03:46.47 | Ahli | I don't get its ability limitation, either |
| 03:47.19 | sharf | I have a feeling morphing back isnt going to be smooth |
| 03:52.07 | sharf | what type of behavior should it be |
| 03:54.04 | Ahli | buff |
| 03:54.23 | sharf | effect final? |
| 04:04.45 | sharf | yeah that's not working |
| 04:24.51 | sharf | not sure how, but got it |
| 04:26.37 | Saeris | someone pinged me in the last few days i was gone for the HotS launch |
| 04:26.41 | Saeris | not sure who |
| 04:26.48 | Saeris | chat log is too long |
| 04:28.37 | sharf | hmm |
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| 04:37.48 | sharf | how do I edit textures for units? as in...how do I extract the files from the data files? |
| 04:41.14 | JademusSreg | Export from the editor or MPQ Editor. |
| 04:41.24 | sharf | how do I export from the editor? |
| 04:41.38 | JademusSreg | Right click on the texture. |
| 04:41.54 | sharf | how do I get to the texture though? |
| 04:42.50 | JademusSreg | Well, the texture viewer for any field that allows you to set a texture. Buttons, weapons, various actors, terrain texture. |
| 04:43.05 | sharf | I got the texture tab in the data editor |
| 04:44.29 | iMisu | http://yahooanswerswtf.tumblr.com/image/42706169620 |
| 04:45.30 | sharf | I heard tainted say he edited the texture in photoshop |
| 04:45.37 | sharf | but photoshop doesn't work with .dds |
| 04:45.59 | JademusSreg | Sure it does. |
| 04:46.08 | JademusSreg | Get the Nvidia dds plugin. |
| 04:46.26 | sharf | there we go |
| 04:46.27 | sharf | ty |
| 04:56.12 | sharf | ok... |
| 04:56.15 | sharf | now how do I import it? |
| 04:57.04 | sharf | nvm |
| 04:57.06 | sharf | lol |
| 04:57.06 | sharf | but |
| 04:57.09 | sharf | how do I save it |
| 04:57.15 | sharf | to preserve all the info? |
| 04:58.21 | JademusSreg | Ah, yes. |
| 04:59.17 | JademusSreg | I tend to use DXT3 ARGB 8bpp | explicit alpha, 2D Texture, No MIP maps |
| 05:01.40 | sharf | ok now...perhaps a stupid question |
| 05:01.58 | sharf | does just editing the texture update units? or do I need to change the m3 files? |
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| 05:58.56 | Wrath | Does anybody know how to make a sound play globally using data? |
| 05:59.18 | Wrath | Ah, nevermind. |
| 06:03.35 | iMisu2 | man kerrigan is hot, id let her finger my bum |
| 06:04.12 | progammer | not with claws |
| 06:04.20 | iMisu2 | of course not |
| 06:04.31 | progammer | spoiler alert, she will get claws back |
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| 06:37.58 | JademusSreg | Thar we go. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/PhotonSynergyLoadscreen.jpg |
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| 07:15.39 | Repo | New map: Zerg in the city - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/zerg-in-the-city/ |
| 07:15.39 | Repo | New map: La volonté de la Reine - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/volontedelareine/ |
| 07:18.53 | iMisu2 | poor kerrigan |
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| 07:31.15 | nooblark | wow that campaign was weak. |
| 07:31.24 | nooblark | beat it in less than 24 hours on brutal. |
| 07:31.35 | nooblark | without even dying |
| 07:31.40 | iMisu2 | i died 1 time already |
| 07:31.48 | iMisu2 | but im just now to barkk or what ever his name is |
| 07:31.51 | nooblark | i died a few times, that one boss was a bitch |
| 07:32.07 | nooblark | i just completed last few missions without even coming close to dying. |
| 07:32.13 | nooblark | so gay |
| 07:32.26 | nooblark | i remember wiping endlessly in WOL |
| 07:32.45 | nooblark | because kerri was too strong in the last mission, she'd own all my shit, and i'd rebuild just to get owned again |
| 07:33.17 | nooblark | only got 47% of the achievments the first time round :( |
| 07:35.01 | nooblark | o well, bed time now. hopefully my 40 bucks will be worth it some other time :P |
| 07:38.57 | sharf | argh |
| 07:40.17 | Kubi | Anyone know how to change the level and hero icon of the hero panel |
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| 08:14.27 | A1win | any ideas what this means: Warning: XML: GameData\ActorData.xml(909,9) : Core: invalid object type identification Source: E:/Files/Game Files/StarCraft II Maps/craftcraft/craftcraft-0-143.SC2Map Entry: RefineryDeath Scope: CActorModel Field: Flags[0] |
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| 08:16.09 | iMisu2 | looks like a warning in xml game data |
| 08:16.14 | twodieDIE | :D |
| 08:16.37 | twodieDIE | delete something in xml |
| 08:17.30 | iMisu2 | kerrigan turned into everything i didnt want to see her become |
| 08:17.32 | iMisu2 | :( |
| 08:18.51 | A1win | how do I hide that harvester count thing from a refinery |
| 08:19.15 | A1win | nvm found it |
| 08:19.17 | twodieDIE | on refinery unit flags uncheck show resources? |
| 08:20.33 | A1win | nah that's not it |
| 08:20.40 | A1win | it's in the unit actor |
| 08:20.50 | A1win | UI: Status Harvester Data - Text |
| 08:21.05 | A1win | oh and I think Status Bar Flags: Workers |
| 08:21.10 | iMisu2 | this larve mission is fucking stupid |
| 08:21.15 | iMisu2 | i was loving it till now |
| 08:21.34 | A1win | still no idea how to fix that XML warning x\ |
| 08:21.51 | A1win | I guess I'll try to remake that data entry... |
| 08:22.04 | A1win | err, now it seems it fixed itself O_o |
| 08:22.34 | A1win | I guess because I modified the data and it revalidated the xml or something |
| 08:26.06 | twodieDIE | iMisu2 want a spoiler what you will doing even more ridiculous scenario stuff? |
| 08:26.14 | iMisu2 | nope |
| 08:26.19 | twodieDIE | :( |
| 08:29.44 | Bommes | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/49954-move-unit-instantly-disjoints-projectiles/#p2 Ahli, time to respond! |
| 08:29.50 | Bommes | ah |
| 08:29.53 | Bommes | hes not here anymore :D |
| 08:30.21 | Bommes | my chat was scrolled up and I didn't realize :/ |
| 08:34.57 | twodieDIE | OHH NOES |
| 08:40.29 | twodieDIE | ohhhhhhhhh yeah!!!!! |
| 08:40.30 | twodieDIE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSmo4JW4mk |
| 08:51.16 | iMisu2 | gah poor kerrigan fucking aye. |
| 08:52.48 | iMisu2 | no love poems, no good night kisses |
| 08:52.55 | iMisu2 | DIE DIE DIE MONSTER BLAH BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM |
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| 09:10.43 | A1win | hmm, my loading screen still sometimes turns blue (missing texture) |
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| 09:28.32 | Kildare | hi all |
| 09:28.34 | Kildare | anyone home? |
| 09:28.41 | Kildare | need some help |
| 09:29.06 | twodieDIE | hello |
| 09:29.54 | Kildare | does anyone happen to know how to prevent Leaver players from automatically giving away their resources to allied players? |
| 09:30.42 | twodieDIE | yes |
| 09:30.44 | twodieDIE | sec |
| 09:31.06 | twodieDIE | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.10 | twodieDIE | trigger |
| 09:31.13 | twodieDIE | action |
| 09:31.43 | iMisu2 | so far blizz messed sc2 hots up for me |
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| 09:31.51 | iMisu2 | i wanted a happly ever afterv :( |
| 09:32.31 | Kildare | ok thx |
| 09:32.49 | Kildare | iMisu2 u migh get it in Void maybe? |
| 09:32.53 | Kildare | Legacy i mean |
| 09:33.16 | Kildare | twodieDie: would this option work in non-melee map? |
| 09:33.25 | twodieDIE | yes it should |
| 09:34.05 | twodieDIE | its most likely just confuse you cause its in melee section of functions |
| 09:34.06 | iMisu2 | void is the protoss expansion? |
| 09:34.27 | twodieDIE | you are right MISU! |
| 09:34.55 | iMisu2 | release in year 2090 ? |
| 09:35.31 | twodieDIE | 2518 |
| 09:35.37 | twodieDIE | or something |
| 09:36.07 | Kildare | btw has any of u ever played Fleet Assault? |
| 09:36.30 | iMisu2 | 2518 |
| 09:36.41 | iMisu2 | march or april |
| 09:38.08 | twodieDIE | August |
| 09:38.30 | iMisu2 | gah, thats when i marry my 318th wife |
| 09:39.45 | Zolden | twodieDIE_D_I_E |
| 09:40.13 | twodieDIE | and you will be constructed by Zolden's corporation of AI stuff robots :D |
| 09:40.38 | twodieDIE | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBSmo4JW4mk |
| 09:40.40 | twodieDIE | ZOLDEN |
| 09:40.55 | twodieDIE | zolden watch and enjoy boobless kerigan |
| 09:43.15 | twodieDIE | So i see if you going to make map with HotS dependencies... You might lose potentiol players of your map |
| 09:43.20 | Zolden | lol |
| 09:43.38 | twodieDIE | lol what? |
| 09:43.47 | Zolden | she's boobless like hitler |
| 09:44.09 | Zolden | but the whole thing is funny |
| 09:44.46 | twodieDIE | its is! |
| 09:44.58 | twodieDIE | . |
| 09:57.47 | twodie | . |
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| 10:18.15 | twodie | mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm essance |
| 10:18.51 | twodie | *essence |
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| 10:31.16 | Zolden | anyone remember a purple smoke model or something purplish? |
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| 10:52.02 | Bommes | pax east announcement next week |
| 10:52.05 | Bommes | Blizzard All-Stars? |
| 10:52.28 | Bommes | maybe Starcraft:Ghost :D |
| 10:55.57 | Zolden | I heard they are going to release an official and super polished wc1 remake |
| 10:56.06 | Zolden | as arcade map |
| 10:56.15 | Zolden | with saves and coop |
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| 10:58.17 | G0A | Zolden who? |
| 10:59.27 | Zolden | blizz |
| 11:01.20 | twodie | damn thats sick lies zolden! |
| 11:01.45 | Zolden | I heard it! |
| 11:03.20 | Zolden | heard it right now, from my imagination, but still worth to tell everyone about |
| 11:03.34 | twodie | Zolden it sure is... |
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| 11:08.57 | G0A | Zolden its your job to make remakes.D |
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| 11:10.53 | Zolden | remakes G0A and forces him to make remakes |
| 11:11.26 | KomischOo | Is there a way to set an integer to a random value between like 1 and 10 but with exclusions that will be added via triggers? |
| 11:12.04 | Zolden | yea, why not |
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| 11:13.47 | Wrath | Anybody here good with data and actors? |
| 11:13.48 | A1win | hmm, seems they've changed the way how resource icons can be replaced, any idea how it is now? |
| 11:14.51 | A1win | ah right they just changed the icon to the nobackground one |
| 11:15.49 | KomischOo | Zolden: I doin it a way ive made up myself which is rather cheap. for example if 6 should be excluded as a randomed integer I got a trigger "exclude 6" which checks every 0.1 secs gametime wether the integers value is 6 and if sou changes it randomly again |
| 11:15.55 | KomischOo | but this isnt very ressource saving |
| 11:16.09 | Zolden | A1win: you mean old reource icon changes doesn't work anymore? |
| 11:16.23 | A1win | depends on how you've done them |
| 11:16.43 | Zolden | KomischOo: wrong, there whould be a loop with no timers |
| 11:17.04 | Zolden | A1win: like ti was explaine in that old thread about assets.txt |
| 11:17.27 | A1win | yeah it's probably bugged then |
| 11:17.34 | Zolden | great ;/ |
| 11:17.35 | A1win | you can change resource isons in Game UI Data now |
| 11:17.39 | A1win | *icons |
| 11:17.54 | Zolden | realy? so, it's easier? |
| 11:17.59 | A1win | seems so |
| 11:18.06 | Zolden | juct click-click |
| 11:18.11 | Zolden | yea, i like click-click |
| 11:18.17 | KomischOo | Zolden: its working acually but there has to be a better way |
| 11:18.29 | A1win | well it's a string value, but still simple |
| 11:18.44 | Zolden | yea ugly noob trash code works sometimes |
| 11:18.49 | KomischOo | :3 |
| 11:20.05 | Zolden | i recommend to make a custom script with while loop which would assign a new random int until it is not equals to any of the incoing exceptions |
| 11:20.32 | Bommes | Wrath: What do you want to know? :) |
| 11:22.14 | KomischOo | well okay ill just nooob-code it then :D |
| 11:23.25 | KomischOo | thx anyway :D |
| 11:23.54 | KomischOo | thought there meight have been a funciton in the editor itself that got an exclud eopportunuty |
| 11:24.33 | Zolden | oh finally paypal got the license in russia |
| 11:24.52 | Bommes | Did they take out the ingame UI-Editor? |
| 11:24.57 | Bommes | Does anyone know? |
| 11:28.28 | herolief | http://www.amazon.com/Release-Day-Shipping-Collectors-Edition/forum/Fx1ZICBWR4FXZPW/Tx3VOANOLMGO124/1/ |
| 11:28.30 | herolief | Waaaah ;_; |
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| 11:41.51 | A1win | x_X game crashed when I used "restart mission" |
| 11:42.08 | herolief | at least you have a game ;_; |
| 11:42.25 | A1win | it was my own map that was launched from the editor |
| 11:42.31 | herolief | ...oh |
| 11:42.47 | herolief | give SC2 a full restart |
| 11:42.59 | herolief | sometimes that happens, has something to do with starter edition licensing |
| 11:43.08 | herolief | shouldn't need to restart the editor |
| 11:43.27 | A1win | it crashed, what else can I do but restart it ;D |
| 11:43.31 | herolief | x3 |
| 11:45.53 | A1win | seems it crashes every time now |
| 11:47.32 | herolief | what did you edit since last time? |
| 11:47.39 | herolief | try making a small change so it can recompile |
| 11:48.27 | A1win | well it only crashes when using Restart Mission, I'm not sure if I even used that earlier |
| 11:48.43 | herolief | hmm. |
| 11:48.44 | twodie | dont use it then! |
| 11:48.52 | herolief | ^ |
| 11:48.59 | herolief | Nobody can even use "restart mission" on bnet. |
| 11:49.03 | A1win | mm |
| 11:49.06 | herolief | So don't worry. |
| 11:49.18 | A1win | I'm not worrying, just noting ;p |
| 11:49.21 | herolief | The only way to replay a game is on the score screen. |
| 11:49.29 | herolief | I would make a forum topic for it though. Who knows. |
| 11:49.45 | A1win | I did send reports from the crash popup thing |
| 11:50.19 | herolief | Does the popup give detailed info? You might be able to find snippets from the error there. |
| 11:50.27 | A1win | nope |
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| 11:52.42 | A1win | I wonder if this fixed my loading screen... I was using the same image file in an UI script that loaded on map init as I was using for my loading screen, so I duplicated the image instead |
| 11:52.53 | A1win | it hasn't bugged so far ;p |
| 11:53.03 | A1win | but it didn't do it every time so dunno if it's actually fixed |
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| 11:59.55 | herolief | A1win, that's pretty cool actually |
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| 12:02.39 | Kildare | hum dum dum] |
| 12:03.23 | Kildare | which server currently has most ppl online at this time? |
| 12:03.47 | twodie | eu |
| 12:03.53 | twodie | imo |
| 12:04.06 | Kildare | hmm |
| 12:04.13 | Kildare | anyone wanna help me test my map? |
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| 12:06.32 | Kildare | hmm |
| 12:11.13 | twodie | hmmm |
| 12:11.14 | twodie | ok |
| 12:12.05 | Kildare | =/ |
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| 12:20.58 | rtschutter | does anyone know how to find the width/height of a UI panel if it isn't listed in the ui module? |
| 12:23.26 | twodie | no answer will be aquared here |
| 12:24.06 | rtschutter | damn |
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| 12:52.19 | Zolden | hey Tolkfan |
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| 12:59.35 | rtschutter | has anyone noticed that resource panels created using templates now have black text instead of white since hots? |
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| 13:04.12 | rtschutter | yo ahli |
| 13:04.50 | Bommes | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/49954-move-unit-instantly-disjoints-projectiles/#p3 Ahli |
| 13:05.41 | Ahli | hello |
| 13:06.49 | Ahli | I have no real fix... you could launch a unit instead |
| 13:06.52 | Ahli | looks horrible |
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| 13:14.23 | G0A | great, editor fatal erro |
| 13:14.25 | G0A | r |
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| 13:14.42 | G0A | did have such since a long time |
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| 13:16.57 | rtschutter | Did Blizzard ever release their interface mod? |
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| 13:22.26 | Bommes | what do you mean with interface mod? |
| 13:22.32 | Bommes | as in the thing to customize the observer UI etc? |
| 13:22.44 | rtschutter | yeah |
| 13:22.45 | Bommes | that they showed in the preview |
| 13:22.49 | rtschutter | they said they would include their mod |
| 13:22.50 | rtschutter | with hots |
| 13:22.54 | rtschutter | but I cant find it anywhere |
| 13:22.57 | Bommes | no I think it's not in the game/editor yet |
| 13:23.17 | Bommes | it's probably part of the UI Editor, but they even took out some of the UI-Editor stuff that was in the Beta as far as I can tell |
| 13:23.17 | Zolden | rtschutter: any success in attaching a model to a camera? |
| 13:23.30 | Bommes | but maybe I'm wrong, dunno |
| 13:24.13 | Bommes | you could probably already do something like this if you work with XML, it's just annoying to set up this way, so it's probably better to wait for the finished ingame GUI to modify the UI |
| 13:24.37 | Bommes | which is in the works (by Deletarius I think) |
| 13:24.52 | rtschutter | zolden: no |
| 13:25.07 | Ahli | I wouldn't put to high hopes into the ingame UI editor |
| 13:25.10 | Ahli | *too |
| 13:25.14 | rtschutter | you can definitely create observer mods right now |
| 13:25.22 | rtschutter | but I wanted to study theirs |
| 13:25.45 | rtschutter | Ahli I am getting a weird bug |
| 13:25.48 | rtschutter | maybe you can help me with |
| 13:25.50 | Zolden | we need to push blizz to make rtt textures work when we play models in dialogs |
| 13:25.56 | Zolden | it would be splendid |
| 13:26.14 | Ahli | if you tell me/us about it, we could, indeed |
| 13:26.14 | rtschutter | I am using a resource panel created from a template to show my players their resources |
| 13:26.22 | rtschutter | and the text is black |
| 13:26.28 | rtschutter | instead of white like it should be |
| 13:26.46 | rtschutter | it worked fine before hots release |
| 13:26.52 | rtschutter | I think it was even fine in hots beta |
| 13:26.56 | Ahli | apply a style |
| 13:27.08 | rtschutter | can I do that to a template item? |
| 13:27.08 | Ahli | or better: use original UI |
| 13:27.17 | Bommes | They did announce that observer UI feature thing in their official preview though, so I'm pretty sure they will make something a little more straight forward for it, and making it part of the UI Editor would make sense imo |
| 13:27.17 | rtschutter | I cant use original ui |
| 13:27.28 | Ahli | I could use original UI |
| 13:27.31 | rtschutter | the original ui is stupid |
| 13:27.32 | Ahli | you can do it, too |
| 13:27.41 | rtschutter | you cant hide it for observers |
| 13:27.42 | Bommes | but I don't know, I never expect anything and then I'm happy when they do give us new stuff ;) |
| 13:27.48 | Ahli | yes you can |
| 13:27.58 | rtschutter | it doesnt work...it seems hidden at first |
| 13:28.05 | rtschutter | but when you select shit it shows resources |
| 13:28.17 | Ahli | hooking up things > anything else |
| 13:28.29 | Ahli | forget the actions in the UI section ^^ |
| 13:28.43 | rtschutter | oh hmm thats true...I suppose I could just hook it up and slide it off screen for just the observers |
| 13:28.51 | Ahli | that's what I'm doing |
| 13:36.33 | A1win | why is there no "published maps" page on profile o: |
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| 13:41.24 | Zolden | yea, mappers must have published maps and recieve achievements for their maps being popular |
| 13:43.23 | twodie | :D |
| 13:43.52 | twodie | im still missing in open games or elsewhere the bookmakerd maps |
| 13:48.17 | Zolden | yea |
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| 13:50.33 | xcorbo | Hihihihi |
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| 14:06.02 | xcorboMobile | Hallo |
| 14:08.58 | Dustin | hii |
| 14:18.32 | Ahli | I'm reading exxonMobile all the time |
| 14:24.51 | Ahli | how the heck do I start an AI in the editor in hots? |
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| 14:30.29 | xcorboMobile | I have not even finished the campaign D: |
| 14:32.19 | Ahli | hmmm computer in player properties does not make it a computer anymore... I fear no more AI in editor tests |
| 14:34.24 | twodie | anti hacking stuff :/ |
| 14:34.38 | Zolden | Ahli: there is a possibility to implement your own trigger ai |
| 14:34.59 | Ahli | I just want the default AI for testing |
| 14:46.33 | xcorboMobile | I should make a casino map |
| 14:47.34 | Zolden | r u an indian? |
| 14:47.44 | G0A | xcorboMobile so we could hack the sc2 engine's random generator and win always in your map? |
| 14:48.05 | Zolden | sc2 random generator is nothing but a troll |
| 14:50.33 | G0A | well its based on a random seed so we would need to loose bet in the casino map first to figure out the seed, than we could win all the time. |
| 14:50.53 | xcorboMobile | Um |
| 14:51.08 | xcorboMobile | Have you guys ever BEEN to a casino? |
| 14:51.18 | xcorboMobile | They are not random at all |
| 14:51.25 | A1win | seed is randomized every game unless you set fixed random seed on |
| 14:51.28 | xcorboMobile | In fact quite the opposite |
| 14:52.08 | xcorboMobile | They are particulary programmed to give you only a couple of wins to keep you losing |
| 14:52.18 | xcorboMobile | Otherwise you just lose |
| 14:52.48 | xcorboMobile | So my sc2 map would not be random instead all my triggers would just make you lose :p |
| 14:53.04 | G0A | I only played Black Jack in Casino, I see no point in the other stuff.D |
| 14:54.18 | Zolden | i played casio |
| 14:55.36 | xcorboMobile | Black jack's ridiculously controlled |
| 14:56.09 | xcorboMobile | I like to play poker. At least you think you have a little more control over your wins in poker or texas |
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| 15:21.54 | G0A | xcorboMobile Poker isnt really a Casino game |
| 15:22.15 | xcorboMobile | What? |
| 15:23.30 | G0A | Wiki's first words: Poker is a family of card games .... ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poker ) |
| 15:23.58 | G0A | ohh I missunderstood that |
| 15:24.02 | Zolden | JademusSreg: r u here? |
| 15:24.05 | G0A | I am really tired today |
| 15:24.45 | Zolden | when aliens conquer the earth, they will allow people of the earth to run casino |
| 15:26.13 | xcorboMobile | Lol G0A |
| 15:28.41 | G0A | xcorboMobile still its not a casino game |
| 15:30.13 | G0A | Zoldenwhen aliens conquer the earth, they will allow people of the earth to do drugs |
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| 15:30.48 | Zolden | sure they will, they are clever and know what's best for well developed societies |
| 15:31.17 | Zolden | mind controls duckies and issues an order to attack xcorboMobile |
| 15:32.50 | duckies | attempts to obey zoldens will but trips on a rock and falls into the river |
| 15:34.48 | Zolden | mind controls a veterinary doctor and issues an order to heal duckies |
| 15:35.12 | Zolden | I just recieved a book I won |
| 15:35.25 | Zolden | and I won it by painting a picture |
| 15:35.25 | xcorboMobile | Who said he was hurt? |
| 15:35.30 | xcorboMobile | Duckies love rivers |
| 15:35.39 | Zolden | there was a "invent an annoying bensh" competition |
| 15:35.49 | Zolden | and I painted this http://www.tema.ru/jjj/skameika/iisus-2.jpg |
| 15:36.01 | duckies | swims and quacks joyously |
| 15:36.56 | duckies | your ingenuity knows no limits zolden :D |
| 15:37.05 | G0A | :) |
| 15:37.33 | G0A | his ingenuity is used for devilish means |
| 15:37.49 | Zolden | mua ha ha, yea!!! |
| 15:49.36 | xcorboMobile | It does not load on my mobile D: |
| 15:50.12 | xcorboMobile | Is it like really huge image? |
| 15:50.19 | xcorboMobile | Resize for me? :D |
| 15:54.26 | Zolden | ok, I will if you nake your ass and show it to your workers right now |
| 15:54.50 | G0A | ehh what did I just find "Blizzard All-Stars Camera" when was this added to the editor? |
| 15:54.57 | xcorboMobile | Who says i am not naked already? |
| 15:55.38 | Zolden | common sense says |
| 15:55.44 | duckies | hm |
| 15:56.04 | Zolden | but it may be true since u're from tropical country |
| 15:56.39 | duckies | I want to play some random slide. lets see how succsessful my attemts will be just after hots release :D |
| 15:56.52 | G0A | Lets play it later |
| 15:56.59 | G0A | I am working on my new map:D |
| 15:57.02 | duckies | NO! |
| 15:57.07 | duckies | I want it all right now! |
| 15:57.10 | duckies | :o |
| 15:57.15 | duckies | new map you said? |
| 15:57.21 | G0A | yes I did:) |
| 15:58.07 | Zolden | xcorboMobile: special for you: http://i.snag.gy/bOQMb.jpg |
| 15:58.18 | Zolden | if your phone won't handle it, go buy a modern one |
| 15:58.24 | duckies | care to share genre? or it's something so complex that I wouldn't care anyway? :D |
| 15:58.39 | Zolden | G0A: your new waht? |
| 15:59.01 | duckies | he's making a new map of hungary I guess |
| 15:59.04 | duckies | mapmaking.. |
| 15:59.08 | Zolden | G0A: it must be another remake |
| 15:59.38 | xcorboMobile | Lol |
| 15:59.38 | G0A | lol duckies:D |
| 15:59.50 | G0A | its not remake:D |
| 15:59.53 | Zolden | map of hungary? maybe he's plannin to cut a part of hungary and create his new country? |
| 15:59.57 | xcorboMobile | That was awesome |
| 16:00.23 | xcorboMobile | Id probably realise that and would think about sitting on it, though |
| 16:01.04 | G0A | Zolden I will finally use the space ship models:) |
| 16:01.34 | duckies | are you retutnng to your spaceship exploration rpg? |
| 16:02.26 | duckies | *returning x_x |
| 16:04.31 | G0A | that would be nice, but nope, you are not even close:D |
| 16:05.21 | duckies | ok.. so it's a map where you kill ships by using ships? :o |
| 16:05.47 | G0A | probably:) |
| 16:05.55 | G0A | I wont tell it |
| 16:05.57 | duckies | so you're making TFF v4? :D |
| 16:06.01 | G0A | nope |
| 16:06.09 | duckies | tff v5? |
| 16:06.11 | G0A | sadly no:D |
| 16:06.38 | duckies | aww |
| 16:06.51 | duckies | is it angy birds but with ships? |
| 16:06.51 | G0A | Its too complex for human beings.D |
| 16:07.15 | duckies | good thing I'm a duck then |
| 16:07.24 | G0A | but you dont play TFF. |
| 16:08.24 | duckies | yeah, being a duck doesn't mean that I automatically like 4X games >.> |
| 16:08.40 | duckies | another guess - remaking EVE on sc? :> |
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| 16:09.27 | Zolden | црут Ш ашч фдд ьн ьфзы Шэдд ыефке ф туц щту ещщ |
| 16:09.31 | Zolden | bitch |
| 16:09.43 | Zolden | when I fix all my maps, I'll start a new map too |
| 16:09.44 | xcorboMobile | Ohgod |
| 16:09.57 | xcorboMobile | Eve on sc2 woukd so not work. |
| 16:10.05 | Zolden | it's good to start a new map, so many inspiration |
| 16:10.46 | duckies | yes, you're right! that reminds me I also recently started a new map, should go work on it some more. |
| 16:11.14 | duckies | on other topic, anyone knows some tasty HotS models worth checking out? |
| 16:11.53 | Zolden | i wish i care about hots bullshit |
| 16:12.44 | duckies | I looked at lassara model and all that protoss girl has is stand walk talk and death animations |
| 16:12.59 | duckies | so I'm feeling kinda underwhelmed :| |
| 16:13.13 | xcorboMobile | Kerrigans model? |
| 16:13.18 | xcorboMobile | Wait |
| 16:14.22 | Zolden | minimizes chat to avoid accidently reading campaign spoilers |
| 16:16.05 | duckies | zolden, you watch b- movies not for plot but for cheesyness and explosions. same with Hots =D go complete it already |
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| 16:16.38 | duckies | also, spoiler for you: many marines die |
| 16:16.47 | Zolden | fu |
| 16:16.49 | duckies | but even more zerglings die :/ |
| 16:16.52 | MGC-Eimtr | how does 1 upgrade to HotS? |
| 16:17.16 | duckies | you enter your key on blizz site and it auto-unlocks it for you in b-net |
| 16:17.17 | Dustin | Purchase it |
| 16:18.10 | MGC-Eimtr | I dl-ed installer, it optimizes the game then I see Swarm dependencies but in editor and all is WoL |
| 16:18.31 | duckies | do you have hots license? |
| 16:19.09 | MGC-Eimtr | y... that is after your download name becomes 'Heart of the swarm' |
| 16:20.21 | Ahli | log into the game and play 1 game, editor has hots then |
| 16:21.16 | Ahli | was like that in beta |
| 16:21.20 | MGC-Eimtr | but do i have to log on bnet to enable the editor stuff cause i cant log in.. my current video card is deasd can use editor only |
| 16:21.45 | MGC-Eimtr | ah let me try opening one hots beta map |
| 16:21.47 | Ahli | makes sense to hide hots in offline editor sessions unless hots has been authenticated by playing ite |
| 16:22.03 | MGC-Eimtr | hmm good idea, will log in from the editor |
| 16:23.19 | MGC-Eimtr | yawn, let's try to log in bnet until it recognizes me, strangely my WoL stats are gone too, and the character |
| 16:24.52 | Ahli | aww yeah, I had sc2 running for 2.5 hours in the background and I didn't notice it because my computer isn't loud as an airplane anymore |
| 16:25.48 | MGC-Eimtr | my laptop is for a change and just testing what i can until it happens |
| 16:26.06 | MGC-Eimtr | haha stupid drivers didnt crash on main menu,. ok off to log in and see what i can thx |
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| 16:30.26 | G0A | best image in sc2 and its in wol, why didnt I see it before? "Assets\Textures\terranupthenightcd_2048.dds" |
| 16:34.28 | duckies | goa, shaggy it |
| 16:41.56 | duckies | g0a, got 5 min? |
| 16:42.18 | duckies | nevermind :D |
| 16:46.09 | herolief | G0A, aw yeah. |
| 16:46.11 | herolief | Best song, too. |
| 16:46.16 | herolief | Stupid ones in the jukebox. |
| 17:03.50 | twodie | Note: noone uses Normal speed in their custom games :/ |
| 17:05.47 | xcorboMobile | ...doez anyway even use normal speed at all? |
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| 17:06.59 | MGC-Eimtr | hah so funneh, I was able to tell a friend in bnet about my mass freezes BSOD and whatever... |
| 17:07.20 | MGC-Eimtr | anyway entering bnet created my account folder with all the WoL banks it seems, and yes now I can see HotS dependencies in the editor |
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| 17:11.52 | G0A | Duckies ready for some sliding? |
| 17:12.06 | twodie | and some slaming? |
| 17:12.13 | duckies | maybe in 20 min x_x |
| 17:15.03 | herolief | RUNS AROUND HAPPILY |
| 17:15.14 | herolief | It's finally coming today! <3 |
| 17:15.34 | G0A | duckies you finally work on your map? |
| 17:16.39 | duckies | no, I'm replaying one of hots missions on brutal. After that I'll be working on a map. :P |
| 17:16.49 | Taintedwisp | Sorry |
| 17:16.55 | Taintedwisp | Battle.net down for 1 hour |
| 17:16.55 | herolief | Hey guys... |
| 17:16.56 | Taintedwisp | -_- |
| 17:17.13 | Taintedwisp | soooo lame |
| 17:17.16 | herolief | Isn't it possible to take the .m3 for a HotS model, export it, then re-import it into a map, and make that a WoL map? |
| 17:17.35 | Ahli | it's possible and gets you banned |
| 17:17.42 | herolief | Oh, hah. |
| 17:17.57 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 17:17.58 | herolief | I was gunna say, isn't it possible to make a HotS multiplayer map playable in WoL that way. But alright. |
| 17:18.18 | Taintedwisp | You can make a HoTS Multiplayer map... |
| 17:18.24 | Ahli | the whole story: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7383798582 |
| 17:18.29 | Taintedwisp | BUT you have to build your own models/effects |
| 17:18.29 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 17:18.38 | herolief | Exactly. Figured. |
| 17:18.47 | Ahli | or just use WoL ones |
| 17:18.53 | Ahli | instead of hots ones |
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| 17:21.37 | herolief | @Ahli, whoa. |
| 17:21.41 | herolief | That's actually a really neat article. |
| 17:21.59 | Folder | Hey folks can anybody tell me how to make a unit face towards OPPOSITE "facing of unit" |
| 17:22.06 | herolief | Shows that Blizzard has a face for the development community that isn't just a side of their casual face. |
| 17:22.29 | herolief | Folder, angle facing of unit + 180? |
| 17:22.48 | Ahli | ^ |
| 17:22.49 | Folder | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.51 | herolief | Since angle measurements are 0-360 and loop around past that. |
| 17:22.55 | Folder | cant add +180 there |
| 17:23.02 | Ahli | math arithmetic |
| 17:23.04 | herolief | Arithmatic? |
| 17:23.16 | Taintedwisp | < not a triggerer and knew that :P |
| 17:23.25 | herolief | math arithmetic multiple((Facing of (Triggering Unit)) + 180.0) |
| 17:23.32 | Folder | so there is no selectable trigger that does that? :( |
| 17:23.44 | herolief | Folder, go to the spot where you enter Facing of |
| 17:23.49 | herolief | And look for Math Arithmetic. |
| 17:24.17 | herolief | Then add Facing Of there, set the case to addition (+), and put the second entry as Value > 180.0. |
| 17:25.50 | Folder | now i got (+ (180)) |
| 17:26.00 | Folder | where to click to insert facing now? |
| 17:26.14 | A1win | use expressions for math |
| 17:26.15 | A1win | :I |
| 17:26.18 | A1win | makes things much easier |
| 17:26.29 | Folder | I dont get expressions :P |
| 17:26.46 | A1win | ~A~ + 180.0, change A to facing of unit |
| 17:27.49 | A1win | expressions let you write the math, and add any values into the writing using those ~whatever~ variables |
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| 17:27.58 | Folder | i see |
| 17:28.00 | A1win | also works with texts and strings |
| 17:28.07 | Folder | but i cant select triggering unit |
| 17:28.13 | Folder | for ~A~ |
| 17:28.16 | Folder | i mean facing of unit |
| 17:28.20 | Folder | as its an integer |
| 17:28.27 | A1win | then use convert integer to real |
| 17:28.30 | A1win | I mean |
| 17:28.33 | A1win | convert real to integer |
| 17:28.42 | A1win | err, why is it an integer? |
| 17:28.49 | A1win | if you're dealing with angles |
| 17:29.07 | Folder | sorry yeah |
| 17:29.09 | Folder | :D |
| 17:29.10 | Folder | nvm |
| 17:29.10 | Folder | thx |
| 17:29.12 | Folder | go tit :P |
| 17:29.45 | MGC-Eimtr | ey btw where are the art tools? |
| 17:29.47 | Zolden | go tits |
| 17:31.24 | herolief | Hey, Folder. |
| 17:31.29 | herolief | That's what it should look like: http://ompldr.org/vaHF5aQ/Untitled.png |
| 17:31.56 | herolief | Of course, not using Set Variable or whatever, and your unit being a variable or other specific unit. |
| 17:32.19 | Folder | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:32.28 | Folder | thats how it looks for me |
| 17:32.34 | A1win | ugh |
| 17:32.43 | A1win | you're still using the Arithmetic function :P |
| 17:32.43 | herolief | Slide Speed being an integer distance? |
| 17:32.45 | A1win | unnecessary |
| 17:33.08 | Dustin | Uhhh |
| 17:33.15 | Dustin | Of course SC2 is down |
| 17:33.19 | Folder | yap :D |
| 17:33.20 | herolief | Hah. |
| 17:33.22 | herolief | For how long? |
| 17:33.23 | herolief | An hour? |
| 17:33.27 | Dustin | What was I thinking trying to playi t on my lunch break =/ |
| 17:33.28 | herolief | Someone said that earlier. |
| 17:33.34 | Dustin | no idea, just cant login to NA |
| 17:33.36 | herolief | IF so that's fine, because I don't get home for an hour and a half ;3 |
| 17:33.39 | Folder | A1win what can be deleted? |
| 17:33.52 | Dustin | This game just doesnt want people to get achievements |
| 17:34.05 | A1win | it should look like this: ... by Slide Speed towards ({(Facing of (Triggering unit)) + 180 }) degrees) |
| 17:34.12 | Dustin | Yesterday the achievement server was down, now I have to play in offline mode...blarg |
| 17:34.15 | Thels | It's not just SC |
| 17:34.18 | Thels | WoW's down too |
| 17:34.25 | MGC-Eimtr | now that everybody supposedly has access to arttools where are they? |
| 17:34.36 | MGC-Eimtr | this plugin or what it isd |
| 17:34.38 | A1win | the expression should be the value for the offset, you have an Arithmetic (Multiple) and the expression inside that |
| 17:34.49 | A1win | but it'll work, just not elegant ;p |
| 17:35.20 | Folder | so thats what i got now |
| 17:35.20 | Folder | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:35.23 | Folder | its correct isnt it? :D |
| 17:35.29 | A1win | it's like "add all of the listed values together:" and then you only give it 1 value ;x |
| 17:35.40 | A1win | no, you have that inside the arithmetic multiple function |
| 17:35.43 | A1win | it's not needed D: |
| 17:35.57 | Folder | what i jsut posted? |
| 17:36.01 | Folder | theres no arithmetic in it |
| 17:36.04 | Folder | at least there shouldn |
| 17:36.05 | Folder | lol |
| 17:36.05 | A1win | (+ ({(Facing of (Triggering unit)) + 180 })) |
| 17:36.14 | Folder | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.21 | A1win | that "(+ ...)" is the GUI syntax for the arithmetic function |
| 17:36.29 | Folder | its no there oO |
| 17:36.34 | Folder | :DD |
| 17:36.41 | A1win | it was when you first pasted it |
| 17:36.58 | A1win | so unless you changed it, it's still there ;p |
| 17:37.07 | Folder | i changed it |
| 17:37.13 | A1win | alright then :P |
| 17:37.16 | Folder | do you even read what i post? :DD just kidding |
| 17:37.17 | Folder | thx |
| 17:37.33 | A1win | you didn't say you changed it ;p |
| 17:38.12 | Folder | i acutally did.. but anyway thx.. expressions are pretty usefull :P |
| 17:38.37 | xcorboMobile | Iam so sleepy again. And i went to bed earlier |
| 17:38.43 | A1win | yeah, can always use them when you need to combine stuff into one value |
| 17:39.23 | A1win | though with strings, you need to use escape characters (like \" instead of " and \\ instead of \ and so on) |
| 17:41.45 | A1win | also, you can use integers and reals in the same expressions and values, they are automatically converted (this was added in 1.5) |
| 17:42.16 | A1win | or at least integers in real values, not sure about other way round |
| 17:44.20 | Folder | k thx |
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| 17:44.33 | Folder | the trigger doenst do what it should but anyway :p |
| 17:44.53 | A1win | what are you trying to do |
| 17:45.14 | Folder | its an Ice Escape Map |
| 17:45.20 | Folder | and its for reverse ice |
| 17:45.21 | A1win | I mean with the trigger |
| 17:45.36 | Folder | so it should move the opposite direction as you click |
| 17:45.44 | Folder | I was expaining.. :D |
| 17:46.11 | A1win | I wasn't here when you started |
| 17:46.23 | Folder | well I jsut told you |
| 17:46.41 | Folder | the unit shoudl move the opposite direction of its facing |
| 17:47.00 | Folder | it works kindoff.. |
| 17:47.03 | MGC-Eimtr | do we have access to start tools? |
| 17:47.04 | A1win | when ordered to move? |
| 17:48.16 | Folder | okay tbh it doenst work at all.. :D |
| 17:48.18 | Zolden | MGC-Eimtr: didn't they release it? |
| 17:48.22 | Rndmobjcts | anyone seen Currydevil since the expansion? |
| 17:48.25 | Folder | wait ill paste bin |
| 17:48.32 | Zolden | mayeb wait until 2.0.6 patch which should happen soon |
| 17:48.55 | Folder | http://pastebin.com/UbADXztL |
| 17:50.11 | Folder | the ü180 |
| 17:50.14 | Folder | the +180 |
| 17:50.19 | Folder | isnt workign still |
| 17:50.58 | G0A | dl my Random Slide map if you want to see nicely working sliding.) |
| 17:51.31 | A1win | Folder, what's that event supposed to do |
| 17:51.50 | G0A | Folder you go over 360.... |
| 17:51.56 | A1win | isn't that the unit property changed event? that has nothing to do with movement |
| 17:52.05 | A1win | G0A, that's not a problem |
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| 17:53.04 | G0A | it should be |
| 17:53.32 | A1win | angles can be any integer values |
| 17:53.49 | A1win | Folder, you can't do it with the Move Unit Instantly action unless you keep track of where the unit was on two separate game frames |
| 17:53.51 | Folder | let me sum up quick |
| 17:54.03 | A1win | the game doesn't track that on its own |
| 17:54.42 | Folder | therees a bunch of triggers but the point is |
| 17:54.50 | Folder | it works. forword |
| 17:54.51 | ckSynergy | Is it possible to allow players viewing a replay to trigger dialog items? |
| 17:54.54 | Folder | jsu the facing doenst work |
| 17:55.31 | A1win | ckSynergy, it wouldn't be a replay if they were able |
| 17:56.06 | ckSynergy | Ok, let me throw this out there |
| 17:56.21 | ckSynergy | If you use blizzards default leaderboard, you can open that in a replay to view stats |
| 17:56.26 | G0A | Folder you from? |
| 17:56.33 | ckSynergy | if you have a custom leaderboard, you cant |
| 17:56.38 | A1win | Folder, is Slide Speed a positive value or negative? |
| 17:56.49 | Folder | positive |
| 17:57.02 | A1win | weird |
| 17:57.30 | A1win | anyway, I don't know how you fire that event so no idea what is actually gong on |
| 17:57.33 | A1win | *going |
| 17:57.56 | Folder | unit gets a behavior when entering ice |
| 17:58.13 | Folder | behavior = chance increase = triggers the trigger |
| 17:58.18 | Folder | change* |
| 17:58.59 | A1win | why don't you just make that On Cracked Ice behavior move the unit backwards instead of using triggers |
| 17:59.53 | twodie | fuck |
| 18:00.00 | Folder | just had an idea give me some secs |
| 18:00.27 | A1win | periodic behavior that teleports the unit offset with -something y |
| 18:00.43 | twodie | tried to connect to US server and now SC2 client only restarts with some upload progression all the time and cant see the dialog to choose other region |
| 18:01.36 | G0A | twodie restart your pc, that helped me |
| 18:01.50 | twodie | to connect to US? |
| 18:02.33 | Ahli | I fixed that with simon's relocalizer |
| 18:04.22 | Folder | A1win did it :D with expressions *.* :D |
| 18:04.31 | G0A | twodie I dont real get whats your problem actually.D But my sc2 always restarted after loading to login screen and restarting helped |
| 18:04.53 | twodie | okay as always |
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| 18:11.03 | twodie | . |
| 18:11.08 | twodie | 123 |
| 18:11.10 | twodie | . |
| 18:11.10 | Vindicator | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRu_-9MBpd4 |
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| 18:13.24 | JademusSreg | Le pew. |
| 18:13.50 | twodie | well restart doesnt work no matter what problem did you had G0A |
| 18:14.17 | Zolden | JademusSreg: u know hwat |
| 18:14.17 | sharf | jademus |
| 18:14.50 | Zolden | that chinese guy pmed me and asked to explain model as dialog thing |
| 18:15.07 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 18:15.32 | sharf | I don't understand animations with effects.... |
| 18:15.32 | Ownage | is there an immolation type of effect |
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| 18:15.39 | Zolden | so, there are 4 ways, u decide: u explain the concept on forum, I explain it giving all credits for you, I pm it to the chines fella, do nothing |
| 18:15.49 | Ownage | a behavior that causes damage in radius? |
| 18:16.29 | A1win | periodic behavior with periodic effect as search area that causes a damage effect, or damage area search |
| 18:16.37 | JademusSreg | Ow, there are several fire particle emitters. Also, make your own behavior with a periodic effect -> damage effect with an area. |
| 18:16.46 | JademusSreg | Yes, as A1 said, haha. |
| 18:16.51 | Ownage | thanks |
| 18:17.11 | sharf | I was using the tutorial on mapster for making shockwave/ground pound |
| 18:17.12 | Zolden | Ownage: a behavior with a period >0 with a periodic damage effect, and this damage effect has aoe. Or it's a search effect instead of damage, which applies damage to units |
| 18:17.19 | G0A | twodie next tip: take can of oil and burn down your computer with:) |
| 18:17.27 | sharf | I want to change the graphics on shockwave...having some issues with that |
| 18:17.29 | JademusSreg | Zol, I'm fine with 2 and 3. I like whichever involves me doing the least. |
| 18:17.44 | twodie | G0A that will be done eventualy |
| 18:18.25 | JademusSreg | There's a reason I make demos and help people on IRC rather than post lengthy tutorials on mapster. |
| 18:18.48 | sharf | can someone explain the animation properties for animation play under actor events to me? |
| 18:18.51 | JademusSreg | And that reason is "fuck writing tutorials, that shit is boring". |
| 18:19.53 | JademusSreg | sharf, still working on the morph? |
| 18:20.05 | Zolden | JademusSreg: ok, you do nothing, but 2 or 3? do you want the glory of being the inventor of a concept or keep the secret until publishing a polished demo but with a risk of chinese fill the bnet with dialogs made of models? |
| 18:20.13 | sharf | not anymore |
| 18:20.28 | sharf | I want an ability hat is like |
| 18:20.44 | sharf | a blast of energy that damages things neaby as it moves |
| 18:20.47 | Bommes|2 | why are broodlords and vipers mutalisk evolutions |
| 18:20.50 | Bommes|2 | that doesn't even make sense |
| 18:20.58 | sharf | so I was using shockwave from the tutorials on mapster |
| 18:21.02 | JademusSreg | Naw, no reason to keep secrets, as the cat is out of the sac-conspicuously-full-of-cats. Better to be helpful than be a dick. |
| 18:21.05 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:21.23 | sharf | was just gonna change the animations from burrows |
| 18:21.56 | JademusSreg | How was it "burrows" in the first place? |
| 18:22.13 | sharf | there are models |
| 18:22.20 | sharf | with the burrow animations |
| 18:22.23 | Zolden | JademusSreg: alright, glad you say this, so ,i'll post something not realy tutorialistic, but making the concept obvious for not-too-nooby mappers |
| 18:22.25 | sharf | and then the events for an actor |
| 18:22.37 | sharf | have it fire as a "unburrow" animation |
| 18:22.51 | JademusSreg | Sounds fair, Zol. |
| 18:23.19 | twodie | so changing regions doesnt work anymore or wtf? |
| 18:25.06 | JademusSreg | Sharf, not sure I follow. Is this an actor you made from scratch or an actor you're modifying/copied? |
| 18:25.20 | A1win | the region choice is only visible when you are in the "choose account" step and not the "type password" step of the login screen |
| 18:25.22 | sharf | from scratch, followed the tutorial |
| 18:26.05 | JademusSreg | I don't follow tutorials, so I don't know to what you refer. But I can tell you a bit about animations. |
| 18:26.24 | sharf | well |
| 18:26.42 | sharf | this has a search effect |
| 18:26.50 | sharf | and when it starts |
| 18:26.50 | A1win | twodie, also tech support just posted "The maintenance affecting US #SC2 should now be over. Thanks for your patience everyone!" 4 minutes ago |
| 18:26.54 | sharf | it triggers this actor |
| 18:26.58 | sharf | which is the unburrow animation |
| 18:27.08 | sharf | and so |
| 18:27.18 | sharf | it has an animation play msg type |
| 18:27.23 | JademusSreg | Is the label unburrow or is the content Unburrow? |
| 18:27.27 | sharf | and the properties are set to unburrow |
| 18:27.38 | sharf | I don't know |
| 18:28.18 | JademusSreg | The label is the handle by which other animation messages refer to it. It comes first, before content. |
| 18:28.28 | twodie | Alwin i know how to access it, but when i choose it then it goes to downloading window by closing the game, when pressing button play it loads client to login screen after 1 sec fade in to the login screen it shut downs the game and back to play button shit |
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| 18:28.57 | sharf | I don't understand |
| 18:29.01 | A1win | ._x weird |
| 18:29.02 | JademusSreg | Content refers to the animation tags on the model itself, predefined and composed from a large dropdown. |
| 18:29.04 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 18:29.28 | Ownage | there's something im missing |
| 18:29.47 | Ownage | I have assigned wall of fire burn to a unit and when i move him over enemies it does not affect them |
| 18:29.56 | Ownage | it is a periodic damage effect |
| 18:30.14 | Ownage | how do I achieve this Zolden " and this damage effect has aoe" |
| 18:30.38 | Ownage | search radius? |
| 18:30.45 | A1win | look at how other aoe damage effects are done |
| 18:30.52 | Ownage | I thought this was one |
| 18:30.59 | A1win | with Search Area effect, you'll have more control over how the aoe works |
| 18:31.12 | A1win | but the Damage type effect has a simpler area effect search as well |
| 18:31.24 | A1win | or I'm not exactly sure how they differ |
| 18:33.26 | Zolden | Ownage: area field of damage effect, go there, create an area, set radius, set fraction to 1 |
| 18:35.28 | Ownage | arc? |
| 18:35.28 | Zolden | difference includes the fact, that in case of search, each damage effect happens at damaged unit, in case of aoe damage, damage happens on damaging unit, which is important if you create a modlel to visualize damage |
| 18:35.42 | Zolden | no arc |
| 18:35.48 | Ownage | there's no area |
| 18:35.55 | Zolden | create one |
| 18:35.57 | JademusSreg | Ow, it needs an area and search filters. =D |
| 18:36.08 | Ownage | there's no area |
| 18:36.09 | Ownage | field |
| 18:36.15 | Zolden | damage -> area |
| 18:36.21 | Zolden | search has area too |
| 18:36.27 | Ownage | huh? |
| 18:36.34 | Zolden | check wiki -> effects -> damage |
| 18:37.01 | Zolden | maybe you need to set damage effects subtype to DU_WEAP |
| 18:37.03 | Ownage | there's no field called damage or anything with damage in it |
| 18:37.15 | Zolden | damage effect -> amount |
| 18:37.22 | Zolden | there u set damage amount |
| 18:37.42 | Zolden | if you use search, u need to link damage effect in the area field |
| 18:38.03 | Ownage | oh combat: amount |
| 18:39.56 | Ownage | ok i have combat: amount 10, search: area - fraction 1, search area - arc: 360 and search: area - radius 360 |
| 18:40.30 | JademusSreg | It will deal damage to everything within 360 cells. Which is every other unit, haha. |
| 18:40.42 | JademusSreg | May want to lower that. |
| 18:40.52 | Ownage | still doing nothing |
| 18:40.58 | Ownage | I'll try 0 where it was as default |
| 18:41.20 | A1win | with 0 it won't find anything |
| 18:41.43 | JademusSreg | Unless it has the flag Extend by Unit Radius. |
| 18:41.52 | Ownage | well what's a good radius then |
| 18:41.56 | A1win | it's a circle and that's its radius |
| 18:41.57 | JademusSreg | In which case it would only effect things inside its radius, haha. |
| 18:42.11 | Rndmobjcts | havent been in the editor in some time can anyone help me with a few questions? |
| 18:42.18 | Ownage | I want it to affect things within an archon width from it :) |
| 18:42.38 | Ownage | like if you put an archon next to it, anything further than the archon wouldnt be affected |
| 18:42.41 | Ownage | roughly |
| 18:42.41 | A1win | then look at what's archon's radius and double that ;p |
| 18:43.12 | A1win | it'll be something like 1.5 or so |
| 18:43.24 | Ownage | .6750 |
| 18:43.28 | Ownage | so yeah about that |
| 18:43.45 | Ownage | 1.35 |
| 18:43.56 | A1win | also extend by unit radius, otherwise the search starts from the center of the unit the behavior is on |
| 18:44.21 | A1win | with that flag on, it starts at the edge of the unit |
| 18:44.48 | Ownage | oh good point |
| 18:45.14 | JademusSreg | Anyway, behavior buff, period 0.0625, periodic effect -> damage effect, amount 1, area {fraction 1, arc 360, radius 1.35}, search filters {exclude Player, Dead, Hidden, Missile; require Ground, Visible} |
| 18:45.17 | Ahli | http://i.imgur.com/NJAKW48.jpg?1 |
| 18:45.46 | JademusSreg | Haha, niiice, Ahli. |
| 18:45.49 | A1win | :x |
| 18:46.02 | xcorboMobile | Hihihi |
| 18:46.06 | xcorboMobile | Lunch time |
| 18:46.36 | Ownage | I'm using cargo truck barrels |
| 18:46.36 | JademusSreg | Oh, and set the damage effect target field to Source Unit. |
| 18:46.40 | Ownage | it's radius is 1.25 |
| 18:46.51 | Ownage | however I'm using it at 200% scale |
| 18:47.00 | JademusSreg | Scale is irrelevant. |
| 18:47.01 | xcorboMobile | Somebody should make an starkart game |
| 18:47.06 | Ownage | so does that mean the radius effect should add 2x(2x1.25) ? |
| 18:47.10 | A1win | just check the offset by unit radius flag, you don't need to care about its radius then |
| 18:47.13 | A1win | no |
| 18:47.13 | xcorboMobile | Like mario kart but with sc2 stuff |
| 18:47.19 | A1win | it'll do it automatically |
| 18:47.21 | Ownage | ok scale doesn't actually effect that stuff |
| 18:47.23 | Ownage | thanks |
| 18:47.43 | xcorboMobile | Hmmm cameras would lag, though, right? |
| 18:47.55 | Ownage | so then it's 2xarchon radius + 1x self radius |
| 18:48.02 | JademusSreg | Scale is just aesthetic, and asynchronous at that, since it's presented via the actor. |
| 18:48.35 | JademusSreg | I need some HotS plot spoilers. =D |
| 18:48.49 | A1win | kerrigan dies! |
| 18:49.04 | A1win | then you restart from last checkpoint |
| 18:49.07 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:50.18 | Ownage | this still isn't doing anything |
| 18:50.30 | A1win | did you set the search filter |
| 18:50.40 | Ownage | yeah |
| 18:50.58 | Ownage | required ground, excluded missle, dead |
| 18:51.03 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the xml for the unit with the behavior, the behavior, the damage effect. |
| 18:51.06 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 18:51.19 | JademusSreg | That'll save us all some time. |
| 18:52.04 | Ownage | how do I do that, copy as text? |
| 18:52.22 | A1win | theree's a view XML thing somewhere |
| 18:52.28 | Ownage | oh nvm i found it |
| 18:55.19 | Ownage | http://pastebin.com/2bAX6M1r |
| 18:55.26 | Ownage | tell me if you need more, I think that's right |
| 18:55.27 | JademusSreg | (Srsly, not averse to spoilers. Research indicates spoilers enhance enjoyment and allow one to appreciate more detail.) |
| 18:55.43 | JademusSreg | The unit doesn't have the behavior. |
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| 18:56.17 | Ownage | behavior is given with trigger with 'add 1 wall of fire burn to (last created unit) from player p |
| 18:56.59 | JademusSreg | Why would one want to do that via trigger? Also, it has a duration, half a second long. This is not at all like immolation. =D |
| 18:57.28 | Ownage | because i don't want the unit to always have that behavior |
| 18:57.32 | JademusSreg | It would apply the effect at most 3 times before ending. |
| 18:57.41 | Ownage | ok so I need to change that then |
| 18:57.55 | JademusSreg | Also, there are abilities specifically for toggling behaviors. |
| 18:58.22 | Ownage | where do you find duration |
| 18:58.26 | JademusSreg | The Behavior ability, which is used for Generate Creep on overseers and Cloak. |
| 18:58.39 | JademusSreg | Behavior duration is in the field Duration. |
| 18:58.45 | Zolden | casts an ancient spell and turns duckies into darkies - the mighty evil mage, who can't live without turning people into ducks |
| 18:59.08 | duckies | turns zolden into a duck |
| 18:59.16 | xcorboMobile | Ha |
| 18:59.27 | Ownage | I don't find anything that says .5 or duration on the behavior or effects |
| 18:59.30 | G0A | duckies do you want to slide, |
| 18:59.30 | Ownage | where do I set that |
| 18:59.32 | G0A | ? |
| 18:59.35 | duckies | sure |
| 18:59.44 | A1win | Ownage, turn off "combine fields" in data editor ;p |
| 18:59.45 | duckies | I'll get right on b-net |
| 18:59.57 | Ownage | oh nevermind thanks |
| 18:59.57 | JademusSreg | And neither the damage effects nor the switch effect has its target set to Source Unit, so it is probably defaulting to null point, the map lower left corner. |
| 19:00.09 | JademusSreg | If it activates at all. |
| 19:00.11 | G0A | sadly I can only play on NA, because my client has the latest patch |
| 19:00.26 | Ownage | is duration 0 permanent? |
| 19:00.32 | duckies | there already was a patch? |
| 19:00.40 | G0A | yes |
| 19:01.04 | twodie | Does anywho have idea how to add the range indicator for a unit that wont really effect stats, adding new elements to unit like having weapon, detecting units... etc |
| 19:01.05 | JademusSreg | Since this isn't targeted, there is no Target Unit, so the point should be null. |
| 19:01.16 | JademusSreg | Thus target field should be set to Source Unit. |
| 19:01.20 | A1win | yeah 0 is permanent |
| 19:01.54 | JademusSreg | Also, the search filter doesn't exclude Player, so it would hurt the source unit too. May wanna exclude Ally, as well. |
| 19:02.42 | G0A | STARCRAFT II PATCH 2.0.6 |
| 19:02.42 | G0A | Fixed a crash that could occasionally occur while playing the Heart of the Swarm campaign. (thats some epically long patch note) |
| 19:02.43 | JademusSreg | Aaaand there's no point in differentiating between air and ground in this case, but you used standard data rather than make your own entries, so that's expected. |
| 19:02.43 | A1win | or if you want it to hurt allies and own units but not that unit itself, exclude Self instead |
| 19:02.45 | duckies | ok g0a, I'm coming |
| 19:03.07 | duckies | I was greatly troubled by that crash |
| 19:03.11 | G0A | duckies switch to NA region and than restart client:D |
| 19:03.12 | duckies | :| |
| 19:03.29 | twodie | G0A *then |
| 19:03.35 | G0A | :) |
| 19:03.37 | JademusSreg | Really ought to add your own entries, Ow. |
| 19:03.37 | duckies | I still haven't uninstalled NA sc, so I'll be fine :D |
| 19:03.39 | G0A | dam you bot:) |
| 19:03.46 | Zolden | G0A: only NA servers released this patch? |
| 19:03.49 | Ownage | fine I'll start from scratch |
| 19:03.53 | Ownage | that sounds about 10x harder to me |
| 19:04.00 | G0A | Zolden it seems like |
| 19:04.01 | Ownage | but here we go I got all day to do it |
| 19:04.15 | Zolden | G0A: does it include Art Tools? |
| 19:04.28 | xcorboMobile | Stupid art tools |
| 19:04.31 | Ownage | ok what's step one, the effect? |
| 19:04.32 | duckies | g0a, go create game |
| 19:04.37 | xcorboMobile | For a 4 years old program |
| 19:05.19 | G0A | Zolden dont know, but most likely not |
| 19:05.21 | Ownage | ok I have a new effect called BurningTruck which is effect type damage, parent: DU_WEAP |
| 19:05.38 | JademusSreg | One starts with a design, from the top on downward; one does not start myopically at the bottom. =D |
| 19:05.57 | JademusSreg | Starting with the design, when is this expected to be applied? |
| 19:06.10 | Ownage | when the trigger adds it to him |
| 19:06.19 | JademusSreg | That's not design, that's implementation. |
| 19:06.27 | Ownage | when he appears on the field |
| 19:06.33 | Ownage | ready to run around burning people |
| 19:06.46 | JademusSreg | So is it always burning or does the player control it?> |
| 19:07.00 | Ownage | it's just on fire, no player interaction other than steering |
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| 19:07.35 | JademusSreg | If it's always burning, that tells us the implementation doesn't require a trigger. |
| 19:07.36 | Ownage | it's going to run around super fast burning stuff, and the player will have to try to fight the issue order triggers to steer it away from his stuff and towards enemy stuff |
| 19:07.57 | Ownage | there are example unit sitting on the map that I don't want burning anything |
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| 19:08.10 | Ownage | so player can walk onto beacons and so forth see what they will get |
| 19:08.26 | Ownage | I guess I could remove the behavior from that unit with trigger |
| 19:08.41 | JademusSreg | Naw, triggers aren't necessary here. =D |
| 19:09.19 | JademusSreg | Anyway, are you saying players can hijack these other vehicles? Or are they just there? |
| 19:09.43 | JademusSreg | Decorative or are they instrumental to the gameplay? |
| 19:10.00 | Ownage | decorative |
| 19:10.13 | Ownage | sitting next to beacon which they can walk onto, to get one of their own |
| 19:10.15 | JademusSreg | Can they be destroyed? |
| 19:10.17 | Ownage | other than that doing nothin |
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| 19:10.24 | Ownage | no |
| 19:10.46 | JademusSreg | Can they be interacted with in any way whatsoever? |
| 19:10.49 | Ownage | no |
| 19:10.54 | xcorboMobile | Is there a gta map? |
| 19:10.58 | JademusSreg | Make those doodads sharing the same model. |
| 19:11.22 | Ownage | is that really a better idea than one single action which adds a behavior? |
| 19:11.34 | JademusSreg | Unless they are created dynamically, rather than statically, in which case a separate unit. |
| 19:11.37 | Ownage | seems like more work and a larger map for basically nothing |
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| 19:13.45 | JademusSreg | If you prefer least-effort solutions to good design, that's fine. |
| 19:14.12 | JademusSreg | In which case, all the information provided above regarding the effects and behavior should suffice. |
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| 19:14.13 | sharf_ | ffs |
| 19:14.34 | sharf | since 2.0.5, my client has to optimize every time I start it now |
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| 19:15.43 | Monkalizer_ | server does not like us |
| 19:15.57 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
| 19:16.20 | Monkalizer_ | :d |
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| 19:17.21 | soulcarverr | HELP! anybody here familiar with Active Directory... specifically on a windows server 2008 r2 |
| 19:18.56 | JademusSreg | This may not be the best place to get IT help, I feel. |
| 19:19.55 | soulcarverr | =( |
| 19:20.06 | Monkalizer_ | something crashed for you? |
| 19:20.10 | soulcarverr | nah |
| 19:20.29 | soulcarverr | need to give domain users admin rights on thier local machines |
| 19:20.42 | Monkalizer_ | brrr |
| 19:20.49 | soulcarverr | but every walk through tutorial leaves out critical parts... |
| 19:20.57 | Dustin | soulcarverr, |
| 19:20.59 | Monkalizer_ | i have no idea about ad, but that soundsbad :( |
| 19:21.00 | Dustin | Yes, what's up? |
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| 19:21.26 | Dustin | Oh rights, hmmm |
| 19:21.40 | Dustin | Let's see if I can remember when I use to administer windows servers |
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| 19:22.17 | duckies_ | g0a, what is going on, 5 ppl |
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| 19:26.50 | Ownage | what type of behavior should this be, to have the damage effect on it? |
| 19:27.08 | JademusSreg | Buff type. |
| 19:28.41 | Monkalizer_ | my editor crashes when I try to open the terrain editor, on all maps that were created before the hots patch :( |
| 19:29.04 | JademusSreg | Ominous. |
| 19:30.28 | G0A | Monkalizer_ that sucks |
| 19:30.47 | Monkalizer_ | hm found one that worked |
| 19:30.59 | Monkalizer_ | I tried using the repair tool, but it didnt help |
| 19:31.11 | JademusSreg | Monk, send me a crashed map, something small. |
| 19:31.18 | JademusSreg | I'll see if I can replicate it, |
| 19:32.45 | Monkalizer_ | i have to remove some dependencies first |
| 19:32.48 | twodie | hey believers!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:32.48 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/vatican?feature=inp-lt-pop |
| 19:32.55 | JademusSreg | Ah. |
| 19:34.18 | Monkalizer_ | hm, it crashes when I try to remove it too |
| 19:34.42 | Ownage | ok I don't know what the hell is going on |
| 19:34.59 | Ownage | I remade this thing from scratch, not using trigger, and it still does nothing |
| 19:35.01 | JademusSreg | Do you have some small unfinished demo thing, Monk? Something with basically nothing in it. |
| 19:35.20 | G0A | twodie must celebrate it with children!:) |
| 19:35.38 | JademusSreg | If you have one that crashes, it would make a good test case. |
| 19:35.56 | JademusSreg | Also, are these maps made in WoL, HotS beta or HotS? |
| 19:36.04 | xcorboMobile | Sooooo |
| 19:36.04 | Monkalizer_ | WoL |
| 19:36.07 | xcorboMobile | New pope |
| 19:36.12 | Monkalizer_ | only |
| 19:36.39 | xcorboMobile | Whats all the fuzz about? |
| 19:37.00 | xcorboMobile | Evryone in my office just left and started watching the broacast in tv |
| 19:37.14 | Rndmobjcts | its someone from south america |
| 19:37.20 | JademusSreg | Humans enjoy a good spectacle. |
| 19:38.06 | Rndmobjcts | god being away from the editor for like a year takes its toll lol.. im going to have to look at some onetwo vids to make a unit lol. |
| 19:38.13 | JademusSreg | Good magicians and politicians understand this implicitly. =D |
| 19:38.15 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 19:38.51 | twodie | we must know what dead man will be elected. |
| 19:39.11 | Ownage | effect: http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5109/captureswp.png , behavior: http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6577/captureqxz.png , unit: http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/2991/captureaoxcb.png |
| 19:39.15 | Ownage | does nothing, why |
| 19:39.23 | Ahli | http://www.spiegel.de/panorama/gesellschaft/der-neue-papst-ist-jorge-mario-bergoglio-aus-argentinien-a-888088.html has stream to pope stuff, too |
| 19:40.36 | Ownage | and here's the xml for the unit, behavior and effect: http://pastebin.com/GJMSjgak |
| 19:41.31 | Ownage | sorry it's this http://pastebin.com/7AyHS0pX |
| 19:42.17 | Ahli | periodic effect entry in behavior? |
| 19:42.32 | Ahli | it's not there |
| 19:44.45 | JademusSreg | ^ |
| 19:44.59 | Ownage | haha |
| 19:45.04 | Ownage | ok thanks I'll try it now |
| 19:45.05 | Monkalizer_ | JademusSreg: do you have an email or something? |
| 19:45.13 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:45.35 | Ownage | now the unit doesn't show up in game |
| 19:45.52 | JademusSreg | The damage is killing it. |
| 19:45.54 | Ownage | the preplaced one is gone and the triggered appear one doesn't appear |
| 19:46.07 | JademusSreg | Because the search filter doesn't exclude self. |
| 19:46.24 | Ownage | yeah it does |
| 19:46.40 | Ownage | -;Self,Player,Ally,Structure,Invulnerable |
| 19:47.05 | JademusSreg | I always forget which side is which, hah. |
| 19:47.33 | JademusSreg | Also, the target and source for the damage effect should be Source Unit. |
| 19:48.20 | JademusSreg | Otherwise the damage player source may be a player that is not the owner of the unit, thus the filter is not working as you'd like. |
| 19:48.22 | Ownage | target: launch location - value? |
| 19:48.37 | JademusSreg | Yeah and impact/target location. |
| 19:48.56 | JademusSreg | Both should refer to the source unit so the filter applies properly. |
| 19:49.13 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 19:49.28 | Ownage | ok so target: impact location value and target: launch location value |
| 19:49.45 | Ownage | one was already source unit, changed the other |
| 19:50.18 | Ownage | doesn't show up |
| 19:52.47 | Ownage | you're right its hitting itself |
| 19:52.59 | Ownage | i set period to 2.0 and now i can see unit and its health is going down |
| 19:53.00 | twodie | how to change color of unit model? What events to use in actor stuff? |
| 19:53.17 | Ownage | you can change the tint of the model easily |
| 19:53.26 | Ownage | and you can change the player color of it easily |
| 19:53.32 | Ownage | other than that you'd have to ask someone smart |
| 19:53.57 | twodie | :D |
| 19:54.04 | twodie | im asking what fields to use!!! |
| 19:54.06 | Ownage | are either of those what you want to do |
| 19:54.14 | Ownage | or do you want to do something more complicated |
| 19:54.23 | twodie | i know thats its something when actor created, or unit, the set tint color |
| 19:54.30 | A1win | Actor Creation -> Set Tint Color |
| 19:54.48 | JademusSreg | Tint is destructive, though. |
| 19:55.37 | A1win | tint is like making a white wall red by removing all the blue and green from the paint |
| 19:55.45 | JademusSreg | Precisely. |
| 19:55.56 | twodie | ohh used Blend one and it didnt worked :/ |
| 19:56.08 | A1win | the blend one is a cycling thing |
| 19:56.18 | A1win | you can blend with the normal Set Tint Color message too |
| 19:56.18 | Ownage | well I have no damn idea why this is damaging the truck itself |
| 19:56.30 | Monkalizer_ | what is that snake demo unit thingy |
| 19:56.42 | twodie | i want it just for now using same models and at least know which is which |
| 19:57.07 | JademusSreg | Well, I figure the target location or search filters are bad. If the target location is set... |
| 19:57.41 | Ownage | target location value is source unit |
| 19:57.47 | Ownage | target location effect is (none) |
| 19:57.57 | Ownage | impact locatio neffect is (none) |
| 19:58.03 | JademusSreg | Try filter Allow Enemy, Neutral; Require Visible; Exclude Player, Missile, Hidden, Invulnerable, Dead |
| 19:58.07 | Ownage | impact location value is source unit |
| 19:58.55 | Ownage | right now filter is allow everything but exclude invuln, self, structure,uncommandable |
| 19:58.59 | Triceron_ | oooh so Nova did get a new model in HOTS |
| 19:59.06 | JademusSreg | Which is to say check Enemy and Neutral, uncheck Player and Ally. |
| 19:59.17 | Triceron_ | http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/069/b/1/sc2__hots___nova2_by_phillgonzo-d5xjx8y.jpg |
| 19:59.25 | Ownage | that's how it is now |
| 19:59.26 | JademusSreg | Niiice. |
| 19:59.41 | Ownage | o ally x enemy x neutral o player |
| 20:00.29 | Ownage | hmm let me try this |
| 20:00.38 | Ownage | search: exclude value caster |
| 20:00.43 | JademusSreg | How then could it damage the unit if Self is excluded? That's not consistent. |
| 20:01.06 | JademusSreg | Well, it's not being cast exactly; I'd try Source if available. |
| 20:01.07 | Ownage | it's still damaging itself lol |
| 20:01.21 | Ownage | ok trying source |
| 20:01.44 | Ownage | still. |
| 20:01.47 | JademusSreg | = |
| 20:01.49 | JademusSreg | \ |
| 20:01.51 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 20:02.03 | JademusSreg | Alright. Guess it's time for me to open the editor. |
| 20:02.15 | JademusSreg | Because now the problem has become interesting. |
| 20:02.31 | Ownage | http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5217/captureppo.png |
| 20:03.21 | JademusSreg | I'll make one from scratch, then post a demo. |
| 20:07.29 | Zolden | if you exclude caster and exclude self in filter, it souldn't affect caster |
| 20:07.46 | Ownage | it shouldn't |
| 20:08.38 | Ownage | there's something I'm missing though because it does |
| 20:08.46 | herolief | IT'S HEEEEEEEEEERE |
| 20:08.47 | herolief | https://imo.im/fd/G/pn0zcqcwfx/IMG_20130313_160658.jpg |
| 20:08.48 | Zolden | oh, and impact location should be point, not unit |
| 20:09.14 | Zolden | Ownage: set impact location to point |
| 20:09.16 | Ownage | source point, or source unit/point ? |
| 20:09.25 | Zolden | source point |
| 20:09.27 | Zolden | or caster point |
| 20:09.40 | Ownage | there's both in there |
| 20:09.43 | Ownage | trying source point |
| 20:09.49 | Zolden | because if you set unit, it affects unit besides the area |
| 20:10.14 | Ownage | not burning himself now |
| 20:10.18 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:10.19 | Ownage | let me see if it burns others hang on |
| 20:10.39 | Ownage | yep it works now |
| 20:10.56 | Zolden | good |
| 20:11.02 | Ownage | thanks JademusSreg and Zolden |
| 20:11.17 | Ownage | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.27 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 20:12.52 | Ownage | now I gotta figure out how to make it look like it's doing something :) |
| 20:12.54 | JademusSreg | I'll finish it, since it will save time when the question of actors comes up. |
| 20:13.20 | Ownage | which means I have the question of actors |
| 20:13.23 | Ownage | it has come up |
| 20:13.29 | Ownage | haha |
| 20:13.45 | Ownage | what I want is for this thing to basically be a fireball |
| 20:13.57 | Ownage | I don't care about the cargo truck model, I was just using it for testing |
| 20:14.24 | Ownage | I did manage to make a medivac look like a fireball by changing him to a missile weapon |
| 20:14.36 | Ownage | but I want some kind of actual effect for the .... effect |
| 20:18.35 | Rndmobjcts | hey guys my editor says it downloaded my map but i cant find it now to open it, anyone able to help me out? |
| 20:19.01 | Ownage | I found a model I want to use, or to test with |
| 20:20.17 | Ahli | open it again, then save as |
| 20:21.52 | Rndmobjcts | under manage published i downloaded but the "open in editor" button wont work |
| 20:21.59 | Rndmobjcts | it says the download is complete |
| 20:23.48 | Ownage | what the hell how do I upgrade to hots |
| 20:23.59 | Ownage | I bought it online and when I go to game clients I don't see it |
| 20:25.41 | xcorboMobile | Its he same ckient |
| 20:25.44 | xcorboMobile | Client* |
| 20:27.17 | Ownage | oh ok lets see if it works |
| 20:27.33 | Ahli | just start "wol" :D |
| 20:28.53 | Ownage | ok it worked |
| 20:29.03 | Ownage | watching the outer limits btw |
| 20:29.08 | Ownage | I know you're jealous |
| 20:30.47 | xcorboMobile | Outer limits? |
| 20:31.36 | Ownage | the outer limits tv show |
| 20:34.49 | G0A | Other Limits the best show ever |
| 20:35.05 | Ownage | I'm on season 1 episode 9 right now |
| 20:35.13 | Ownage | CORPUS EARTHLING |
| 20:35.14 | G0A | which season 1?:) |
| 20:35.20 | Ownage | haha the 60's were so awesome |
| 20:35.27 | xcorboMobile | I habe no idea |
| 20:41.23 | G0A | One day I shall watch again all the Outer Limits episodes |
| 20:42.01 | Zolden | duckies_: check what automobile numbers are in use in G0A's country http://img.artlebedev.ru/kovodstvo/idioteka/i/FF8695CB-4CF9-4D6F-A56B-779BB0C1580D.jpg |
| 20:42.03 | Ownage | I'm watching all the original ones in order |
| 20:42.20 | duckies_ | oh my |
| 20:42.34 | duckies_ | got to love goa contry :D |
| 20:42.47 | duckies_ | *goas country |
| 20:43.28 | G0A | :) |
| 20:43.59 | G0A | yeah you can have goa-604 on your car in my country.D |
| 20:44.35 | G0A | Ownagethis is my fav episode http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_of_Mercy_(The_Outer_Limits) |
| 20:45.54 | G0A | Masters of Science Fiction was very similar to Outer Limits btw, too bad it got canceled after just 6 episodes |
| 20:46.20 | Ownage | hmm I'll check it out thanks |
| 20:46.24 | duckies_ | what is this "Outer Limits" you talk about? |
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| 20:46.42 | Ownage | is everyone in this channel 13 |
| 20:47.12 | duckies_ | no, it's usually just the person who makes the age assumptions :> |
| 20:48.47 | Ownage | well you have to be pretty young to not know what outer limits is |
| 20:49.08 | Ownage | anyone who was alive and coherent in the 80's and 90's certainly has heard of it |
| 20:49.20 | Ahli | uhm.... |
| 20:49.28 | Ahli | google shall help me in my pity |
| 20:49.40 | Ownage | it's a tv show |
| 20:49.58 | Ownage | kind of like the twilight zone except more science fiction than fantasy |
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| 20:50.12 | Ownage | it ran over two long periods |
| 20:50.27 | Monkalizer | JademusSreg: did you get my email? |
| 20:50.33 | G0A | Yeah twilight zone was pretty cool too:D |
| 20:50.51 | Monkalizer | btw I found a northern light doodad |
| 20:50.56 | Monkalizer | its cool :) |
| 20:53.47 | JademusSreg | Yeah, I'll check it once I finish this little demo. |
| 21:04.16 | Monkalizer | kk :) |
| 21:13.36 | Ownage | wow this one has martin sheen in it |
| 21:13.39 | Ownage | 1963 |
| 21:13.51 | A1win | I wish there was some magical way to make CraftCraft easier to learn without sacrificing too much of its complexity D: |
| 21:15.36 | A1win | and without having to waste time from players who already know how to play :X |
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| 21:25.00 | Kubi | Does anyone know how to manipulate the hero panel |
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| 21:38.35 | sharf | ok does anyone know a good tutorial for making projectiles? |
| 21:44.02 | Zolden | sharf: what do you mean under making projectiles? |
| 21:53.05 | JademusSreg | A1, a sequence of dynamic tips. You determine what and when a player ought to be doing something, pop a hint, maybe show an example. =D |
| 21:57.25 | Zolden | A1win: also, track how many games a guy played, how many won, to know if he's noob and want to have additional tips |
| 21:59.13 | JademusSreg | I really ought to change the damage model supporter to one that destroys immediately on actor orphan, but the general idea is there: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/ImmolationDemo.SC2Map |
| 22:02.51 | sharf | I meant like |
| 22:03.01 | sharf | I want to make an ability that launches an energy ball |
| 22:03.15 | sharf | because ultimately, I'd like that energy ball to damage enemies it gets close to |
| 22:03.46 | JademusSreg | Is it a collider? |
| 22:04.04 | sharf | I have nothing done for this |
| 22:04.09 | sharf | no actors, no effects nothing |
| 22:04.15 | sharf | lol no clue where to start |
| 22:04.38 | JademusSreg | I mean the design, are you designing missiles that are intended to impact on the first target it contacts? |
| 22:05.13 | sharf | it will go from caster to target location, damaging anything along the way |
| 22:05.25 | sharf | then possibly explode at the end |
| 22:05.27 | sharf | for aoe damage |
| 22:06.23 | JademusSreg | Alright. In that case, the missile needs a behavior with a periodic effect. |
| 22:06.57 | sharf | to search right? |
| 22:07.13 | Zolden | sharf: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/tutorials/17154-data-colliding-projectiles/ |
| 22:07.43 | JademusSreg | Yeah, search or straight up deal damage in an area. |
| 22:07.54 | sharf | see....I saw that |
| 22:07.59 | sharf | but the title didn't seem to fit |
| 22:08.01 | sharf | so I skipped it |
| 22:08.02 | sharf | lol |
| 22:08.10 | sharf | I'll have to check those out later thanks |
| 22:08.30 | JademusSreg | But if you're making standard missiles that happen to deal damage along the way, the first place to look is at the standard data itself. |
| 22:08.39 | JademusSreg | It's pretty simple. |
| 22:08.52 | Zolden | it explains lots of features and pretty useful for noobs |
| 22:09.00 | sharf | awesome |
| 22:09.34 | sharf | now, there is an ability I'm planning and I want to see if I have the right idea |
| 22:10.18 | sharf | I basically want to make wind walk, to do that, I'd have an activated ablity that applies a buff, that increases the unit's speed and cloaks them, and increases their damage. Then, when they attack, or the buff runs out, it cancels it, right? |
| 22:11.47 | JademusSreg | Behavior type ability, simple Buff behavior with some modifications and a Validator (Remove). Sounds easy enough. |
| 22:12.06 | Kubi | Does anyone |
| 22:12.07 | Kubi | know |
| 22:12.12 | Kubi | how to manipulate the hero panel |
| 22:12.20 | sharf | ew validators lol, that's how I would detect the unit attacking? |
| 22:12.24 | JademusSreg | Haven't messed with it, Kub. |
| 22:12.33 | Kubi | It has 1 trigger to set it to a HERO |
| 22:12.37 | Ownage | pretty sure you could just change the movement speed bonus on cloak |
| 22:12.38 | Kubi | does about it |
| 22:12.43 | JademusSreg | Yeah, of a damage response on the buff itself. |
| 22:12.45 | JademusSreg | *or |
| 22:13.03 | JademusSreg | Modifying standard data is bad practice. |
| 22:13.32 | sharf | but I thought damage response only triggered when the unit with the buff was attacked |
| 22:13.35 | sharf | not when it attacked |
| 22:13.43 | JademusSreg | There is a parameter for that, actually. |
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| 22:14.25 | tordy | hwo do you chagne pblihsing resgion cuz in not seeing it? |
| 22:14.33 | sharf | what parameter? |
| 22:14.52 | tordy | preferences only shows default or americas for me |
| 22:15.04 | Zolden | get regions.xml |
| 22:15.06 | Ownage | how should I go about adding a model to this unit which is burning |
| 22:15.17 | JademusSreg | Location: Defender / Attacker |
| 22:15.24 | Ownage | should I just add it with a trigger onto him, like an enlarged missile model |
| 22:15.34 | Zolden | http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/35/300/Regions.xml |
| 22:15.45 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:16.04 | Zolden | place it to sc2 folder (near starcraft2.exe) |
| 22:16.09 | sharf | I thought that was just where the response happened |
| 22:16.11 | sharf | not |
| 22:16.37 | sharf | not who did the damage |
| 22:16.44 | sharf | I thought it was still triggered by being attacked |
| 22:17.57 | tordy | u da bomb diggity |
| 22:18.52 | tordy | anyone here beat the campaign aledy? how is it |
| 22:18.57 | sharf | also, has anyone ever done the random name thing for heroes, like in wc3? |
| 22:19.08 | Zolden | i'm going to beat 4th mission of the ccampaign |
| 22:19.10 | sharf | just started it before :P only 2 missions in |
| 22:19.21 | Zolden | what genre will it be, tower defence? |
| 22:19.43 | sharf | ? |
| 22:30.18 | JademusSreg | I'll be busy for a while, so let's see if I can sort this out. |
| 22:32.52 | Ownage | anyone feel like helping me out with adding animation or model or something to this effect |
| 22:32.53 | JademusSreg | A validator is fairly straightforward solution, especially since there are standard validators for checking if the unit is "in combat". |
| 22:50.31 | Kubi | Okay |
| 22:50.33 | Kubi | seriously |
| 22:50.34 | Kubi | how the fuck |
| 22:51.12 | Kubi | do i add ragdoll deaths |
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| 22:55.38 | Kubi | there we go |
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| 23:11.25 | Zolden | oh yea, just beat the 4th mission |
| 23:11.42 | Zolden | bitches sucked fat zerg balls |
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