| 00:00.13 | Zolden | but then people invented games which are as fun as life, but are not life |
| 00:01.23 | Zolden | but I think it's for good, at least we're training some intellectual skills while playing games, games do improve abstract thinking |
| 00:02.44 | Zolden | so, games do help to give birth and protect posterity, because smarter person has better chances to get a safe and well-paid job |
| 00:03.12 | Zolden | it's just longer way, but it's funnier |
| 00:03.25 | Zolden | so, by playing games we exchange some time for some fun |
| 00:03.41 | Taintedwisp | Hey Programmer long time no se |
| 00:03.46 | Taintedwisp | Hey Vail hows it been? |
| 00:03.53 | Zolden | lol, I thought the conclusion will look deeper |
| 00:04.29 | xcorbo | Lol |
| 00:04.30 | xcorbo | Also |
| 00:05.00 | xcorbo | I find it really weird how everyone is saying progammer is back |
| 00:05.02 | Kubi | OH SHIT, FINAL MISSION MENGSK DIES |
| 00:05.07 | Taintedwisp | Corn on the cobo hows it going? |
| 00:05.11 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 00:05.21 | xcorbo | He never left the staff forum ;o |
| 00:05.34 | Taintedwisp | He was never public though therefore he was gone |
| 00:07.43 | Taintedwisp | xcorbo your okay with corn on the cobo right? |
| 00:09.59 | xcorbo | I did not get it but sure |
| 00:10.30 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 00:10.42 | Taintedwisp | whats not to get... |
| 00:13.06 | xcorbo | Well it is most likely an english idiom i am not aware of. |
| 00:13.12 | Zolden | lol |
| 00:13.20 | Zolden | open games list on arcade |
| 00:13.20 | xcorbo | And i do not know what cobo means |
| 00:13.26 | Zolden | so deserted |
| 00:13.35 | xcorbo | English is not my native language |
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| 00:15.39 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 00:15.54 | Taintedwisp | I was making fun of your username :P |
| 00:18.39 | progammer | i was around, but not actually doing any moderation |
| 00:18.45 | progammer | hi taintedwisp |
| 00:24.07 | xcorbo | Anyway i just got home |
| 00:24.23 | xcorbo | So ill see if i can play campIgn on sea |
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| 00:31.21 | Ahli_ | played 2 missions in hots and they are amazing... wish I could play them higher than low now :D |
| 00:31.29 | progammer | you can play, i dont even need to modify region.xml, i just logged to sea last night |
| 00:32.06 | progammer | and yes, first encoucter the first dialog choice as a result of WoL choice, just a sentence |
| 00:35.38 | progammer | man too bad most cutscences are actually prerendered, i cant see how they do it anymore |
| 00:36.16 | nooblark | damn you ahli |
| 00:36.22 | nooblark | bastard EU |
| 00:37.00 | xcorbo | Optimization in progress! |
| 00:39.02 | Vail | hello Tainted, its been well |
| 00:39.24 | Vail | im sorry im not more reliable |
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| 00:42.16 | xcorboPC | is that KOTB final in the launch event stream? |
| 00:42.33 | Ahli_ | use simon's relocalizer and connect to EU or SEA or KR |
| 00:42.38 | Ahli_ | and have fun |
| 00:42.53 | xcorboPC | holycrap |
| 00:43.01 | xcorboPC | that was a lot of drones killed |
| 00:43.35 | xcorboPC | man that was so closeeee |
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| 00:44.34 | xcorboPC | wait what |
| 00:44.44 | xcorboPC | what's my cellphone doing to me o.O |
| 00:45.34 | Vail | is it touching you in naughty places? |
| 00:45.58 | xcorboPC | lol |
| 00:45.59 | xcorboPC | oh no |
| 00:46.04 | xcorboPC | it's vibrating ;o |
| 00:46.26 | Vail | maybe some one is calling you |
| 00:47.10 | xcorboPC | gg grubby |
| 00:47.47 | xcorboPC | or maybe not |
| 00:51.24 | xcorboPC | oh duh, this is the 3rd 4th place game |
| 00:53.55 | progammer | start to feel like a swarm just 3 mission in, man blizz really did a good job. |
| 00:55.46 | xcorboPC | it's still optimizing for me QQ |
| 00:57.41 | A1win | yeah campaign seems pretty neat o: |
| 00:59.06 | Zolden | kerrigan acted like darth weider after 2nd mission |
| 01:00.19 | Zolden | also, i found a bug in the 2nd mission |
| 01:00.36 | Zolden | i managed to releaze lings and fill gas |
| 01:05.28 | progammer | optimizing = decrypting your hots download |
| 01:06.21 | progammer | it was decrypted like yesterday, and ppl datamined all the cinematics + prerendered cutsences |
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| 01:06.44 | tordy | is the game out yet |
| 01:07.46 | progammer | tordy: it has been out on many regions, just not the us |
| 01:10.28 | xcorboPC | IT IS DONE |
| 01:10.31 | xcorboPC | bye guys |
| 01:10.34 | xcorboPC | see you next week |
| 01:12.09 | progammer | lolz wut |
| 01:12.12 | progammer | kerrigan can burrow |
| 01:13.28 | Ahli_ | an unexpected fatal error occured |
| 01:15.41 | Ahli_ | the first guitarsounds in the bnet login screen are freaking me out |
| 01:15.43 | xcorboPC | wait |
| 01:15.49 | xcorboPC | how do i change my region? |
| 01:16.02 | xcorboPC | is it a bnet thing or in te game? |
| 01:16.03 | Ahli_ | simons relocalizer |
| 01:16.09 | Ahli_ | the game's thing is disabled |
| 01:16.12 | Ahli_ | they disabled the button |
| 01:16.36 | Ahli_ | so only the western nerds could play hots before release in their region |
| 01:16.55 | xcorboPC | but it's out already in germany, right? |
| 01:17.17 | xcorboPC | Can I get a link to the relocalizer? |
| 01:19.18 | Ahli_ | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357860 |
| 01:20.00 | Ahli_ | I giggled when the adjutant said its sentence in the cinematic of mission 4 (upper option) |
| 01:20.35 | progammer | corbo: just change the region.xml |
| 01:21.36 | xcorboPC | thanks |
| 01:21.43 | xcorboPC | goign to try right now |
| 01:21.49 | xcorboPC | see ya in 2 weeks just in case |
| 01:23.02 | Ahli_ | you need 2 weeks to play through the campaign? |
| 01:23.11 | Ahli_ | I like abathur already |
| 01:24.15 | xcorboPC | No |
| 01:24.43 | xcorboPC | but I'll take two weeks to recover from the heart attack I am going to get because of the so many shocking spins the storyline's going to take |
| 01:24.48 | xcorboPC | ...right /sacarsm |
| 01:26.48 | tordy | lame :[ |
| 01:28.00 | Ahli_ | now the video card driver of my laptop crashed... |
| 01:28.09 | Ahli_ | or well, it crashed sc2 |
| 01:28.25 | tordy | hehe |
| 01:28.58 | tordy | i cant select the other regions when publishing |
| 01:29.37 | tordy | i only see americas |
| 01:33.18 | tordy | oooo nice map link |
| 01:34.31 | xcorboPC | even on low, ahli? |
| 01:40.43 | progammer | Ahli_: same, he's quite interesting, and turns out there are 27 mission total, 20 are main and 7 evolution missions |
| 01:41.12 | tordy | progammer wassup man |
| 01:41.24 | tordy | evolution missions? |
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| 01:43.36 | progammer | i think its like fun minigames, havent got to 1 yet |
| 01:44.06 | xcorbo | Guys |
| 01:44.24 | xcorbo | I have something very important to tell you |
| 01:44.34 | xcorbo | I think i made a huge mistake |
| 01:45.25 | tordy | is it just hots assets that turns maps into hots only? |
| 01:45.28 | xcorbo | I am going to need food eventually |
| 01:45.29 | tordy | any features? |
| 01:45.43 | xcorbo | And i did not bring any |
| 01:47.30 | progammer | disregard foods, acquire evolution strands |
| 01:49.06 | xcorbo | Lol |
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| 01:53.31 | Cheekything | Anyone know if it's possible to mix upgrades with abilities so that I can increase a hero's ability damage without create extra effects? |
| 01:53.44 | Cheekything | for example |
| 01:54.21 | Cheekything | I want to use it to change the amount in a search but damage would be common |
| 01:56.45 | JademusSreg | Probably. |
| 01:57.03 | JademusSreg | Both directly and indirectly, I expect. |
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| 02:02.07 | Cheekything | cool |
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| 02:03.58 | Cheekything | follow question |
| 02:04.50 | Cheekything | if I use a set does that apply the effects in order? |
| 02:05.32 | Cheekything | I.e I want to have 2 search effects 1 that applies a behaviour to X units and a second that looks for all units that have that behaviour |
| 02:06.47 | Cheekything | is that possible |
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| 02:52.07 | ThunderLord | I am so pumped right now... |
| 02:52.10 | ThunderLord | 4 hours |
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| 03:00.52 | progammer | well you can play on other server |
| 03:00.59 | Ahli_ | what 4 hours? you can play now using http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=357860 |
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| 03:03.59 | Taintedwisp | Fuck midnight launches.. -_- one of the two most popular gamestops in this area isnt having it for HoTS, yet there are 7 that are spread out in much less populated areas that are jumping on it... |
| 03:04.04 | Taintedwisp | oh well |
| 03:04.11 | Taintedwisp | Ill go pick mine up tomorrow morning |
| 03:04.12 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 03:04.22 | Taintedwisp | fuck waiting till 3 am to play haha |
| 03:04.26 | Ahli_ | I bought it digital :D |
| 03:04.37 | Taintedwisp | digital is a scam |
| 03:04.41 | Ahli_ | why? |
| 03:04.50 | Taintedwisp | What happens when all those servers go offline? |
| 03:04.53 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 03:04.56 | Taintedwisp | my point |
| 03:05.06 | Ahli_ | why your point? |
| 03:05.08 | Taintedwisp | I would rather have the disc for later, least they can be cracked |
| 03:05.17 | Taintedwisp | WHen the servers go down so do your games, forever |
| 03:05.23 | Taintedwisp | This is the same reason DLC is a scam |
| 03:05.28 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 03:05.36 | ThunderLord | its the same deal with starcraft tho |
| 03:05.37 | Taintedwisp | PSN already isnt transferring your shit over, you think Xbox will? |
| 03:05.43 | ThunderLord | we gotta be connected to play |
| 03:05.52 | Taintedwisp | But a disc can be hacked :P |
| 03:05.58 | Ahli_ | I could just download a installation dvd or burn the downloaded installer on a disc |
| 03:06.07 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 03:06.11 | Ahli_ | but what do I want sc2 for when the multiplayer is shut down? |
| 03:06.16 | Taintedwisp | plus for the same amount of money, I get extras |
| 03:06.21 | Ahli_ | I would play the next game with better editor and stuff |
| 03:06.28 | Taintedwisp | Ahli there are already underground servers |
| 03:06.33 | ThunderLord | i got a collectors edition |
| 03:06.36 | Taintedwisp | Last time I got a little book, and a notepad and such |
| 03:06.38 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:06.39 | ThunderLord | and a digital copy |
| 03:06.50 | Taintedwisp | Ill get CE of LOTV since protoss is my race :) |
| 03:06.51 | Ahli_ | so your point for a physical copy is even weaker |
| 03:06.57 | Taintedwisp | I didnt care for the ultralisk nor the portraits |
| 03:07.03 | Taintedwisp | They portraits FUCKING SUCKED |
| 03:07.05 | Ahli_ | also you don't even need to install that game (only once) |
| 03:07.10 | Taintedwisp | they were rehashed portriats with a purple glow |
| 03:07.22 | Ahli_ | you can copy paste it from computer to computer just like scbw |
| 03:07.25 | ThunderLord | so i will get the physical in the mail tomorrow, and i will have the ditigal game tonight |
| 03:07.29 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 03:07.35 | nooblark | if i had hots beta installed, do i need to do anything special to play hots in an hour? |
| 03:07.40 | Taintedwisp | ahli you can only copy/ paste something sooo many times :P |
| 03:07.49 | Ahli_ | just start wol |
| 03:07.50 | ThunderLord | i didnt get the delux edition, but the Ultralisk skin was badass |
| 03:07.54 | Taintedwisp | nooblark its not 1 hour |
| 03:07.58 | Taintedwisp | EST has to wait till 3 am |
| 03:08.00 | Taintedwisp | -_- |
| 03:08.04 | Ahli_ | if you didn't patch already, just change your server and load that stuff from there |
| 03:08.09 | Taintedwisp | so the WC can catch up :P |
| 03:08.16 | Ahli_ | you can still change it back with the program and play the campaign on your main server |
| 03:08.32 | Ahli_ | are there people that play the campaign on every server? |
| 03:08.35 | ThunderLord | im just goin to wait tell its legit time XD |
| 03:08.40 | nooblark | ^ |
| 03:08.49 | Taintedwisp | same :P Ill go to sleep and get a good nights sleep |
| 03:08.51 | ThunderLord | I fucked up my sleep schedule so that i would wakee up as the servers go live |
| 03:08.56 | Taintedwisp | wake up go get my copy |
| 03:08.57 | Taintedwisp | and be a beast |
| 03:09.02 | Ahli_ | I did, too ;) wanted to have it on EU and I watched the European release partey |
| 03:09.10 | nooblark | nerds |
| 03:09.15 | ThunderLord | NOU! |
| 03:09.21 | Taintedwisp | Thanks for the compliment nooblark |
| 03:09.24 | Taintedwisp | Yes I am a nerd |
| 03:09.30 | Taintedwisp | but your a fucking trekkie geek |
| 03:09.32 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 03:09.35 | ThunderLord | im pretty sure that everyone in this irc is a nerd |
| 03:09.38 | Taintedwisp | Nerds are smart, geeks are just virgins |
| 03:09.40 | nooblark | naw |
| 03:09.41 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 03:09.41 | Ahli_ | and tomorrow my new card is comming... so there is 99% chance that I can play hots on extreme then ;D |
| 03:09.54 | ThunderLord | WHEWT!!!! |
| 03:10.03 | progammer | there's some bot in here too, not just nerd |
| 03:10.14 | Taintedwisp | ~purl is a nerd |
| 03:10.25 | Ahli_ | ~progammer |
| 03:10.25 | purl | i heard progammer is a guy who will kick you in the balls before you know what happened |
| 03:10.28 | Taintedwisp | ~purl |
| 03:10.28 | purl | somebody said purl was arrogant |
| 03:10.41 | Taintedwisp | ~Taintedwisp |
| 03:10.41 | purl | you are, like, a niggerjew |
| 03:10.46 | progammer | i dont remember when or who set that :S |
| 03:10.51 | Taintedwisp | zolden is dirty |
| 03:11.01 | Taintedwisp | Zolden obviously added the one from my name -_-.... |
| 03:11.05 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 03:11.12 | Ahli_ | oh, now I remember why I'm not playing hots right now... sc2 crashed with driver stuff |
| 03:11.18 | Ahli_ | I think I should update it :D |
| 03:11.27 | Taintedwisp | thats another thing ahli I will get mine a bit more bug free |
| 03:11.30 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 03:11.32 | Taintedwisp | Waiting has benefits |
| 03:11.36 | progammer | either way, break's over, back to killing protoss in ice |
| 03:11.38 | Ahli_ | no you wont :D |
| 03:11.51 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 03:11.56 | Taintedwisp | I will get it after the initial patch |
| 03:12.11 | Ahli_ | initial patch? you mean next week? |
| 03:14.45 | Taintedwisp | Nah there will most likely be minor patches that will download in the background for the next couple days fixing minor crashes and such |
| 03:14.58 | Taintedwisp | thats how it was for MoP and Diablo 3 |
| 03:15.34 | Taintedwisp | Still those HoTS Portraits piss me off |
| 03:15.55 | Taintedwisp | They just give them away, for completing the missions rather then doing all the achievements |
| 03:16.08 | Ahli_ | anna prosser is a better kerrigan than the one from EU launch event :D https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=386234304807388&set=a.152241708206650.30844.127164980714323&type=1&theater |
| 03:16.09 | Taintedwisp | its a minor thing though |
| 03:16.12 | Taintedwisp | :\ |
| 03:30.58 | Ahli_ | http://imgur.com/a/aER5X#0 |
| 03:31.31 | Ahli_ | http://imgur.com/DmcOBvQ |
| 03:31.54 | ThunderLord | are those spoilers? |
| 03:32.50 | JademusSreg | Any cool HotS stuff to report? |
| 03:34.40 | Ahli_ | so, I think I should sleep for like 4 hours now, night |
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| 03:45.32 | ThunderLord | i wish i was sleepy to sleep the next 3 hours... |
| 03:45.36 | ThunderLord | but im now ): |
| 03:45.44 | ThunderLord | not* |
| 03:46.14 | sharf224__ | WHAT THE HELL |
| 03:46.30 | ThunderLord | wish i had some nyquil to force my sleep rythem to where i want it XD |
| 03:46.39 | ThunderLord | WHATS THE HELL!? |
| 03:46.47 | sharf224 | fourth time today |
| 03:46.49 | sharf224 | I've opened sc2 |
| 03:46.55 | sharf224 | and it's had to optomtize |
| 03:47.28 | ThunderLord | OH GOD |
| 03:47.36 | ThunderLord | IF MINE AHS TO DO THAT ILL EXPLODE |
| 03:47.45 | sharf224 | seriously |
| 03:47.46 | sharf224 | wth |
| 03:47.56 | ThunderLord | mine optimized 1 time... |
| 03:48.03 | ThunderLord | have i predownloaded HOTS already? |
| 03:48.06 | sharf224 | mine optimized |
| 03:48.11 | sharf224 | patched to 2.0.5 |
| 03:48.14 | sharf224 | then optimized |
| 03:48.18 | sharf224 | closed it |
| 03:48.21 | sharf224 | opened it, optimized |
| 03:48.29 | sharf224 | now I'm trying it again, and optimizing |
| 03:48.32 | sharf224 | what the fuck |
| 03:48.45 | ThunderLord | Ur starcraft is going to be Fuckin Optimal! |
| 03:48.59 | sharf224 | no |
| 03:49.03 | sharf224 | they're going to destroy my ssd |
| 03:49.13 | sharf224 | gonna use up all the read/writes |
| 03:49.25 | ThunderLord | u have an HDD and a SSD? |
| 03:49.28 | ThunderLord | like a cool kid? |
| 03:49.29 | sharf224 | no |
| 03:49.32 | sharf224 | just an ssd |
| 03:49.35 | ThunderLord | YNOT?! |
| 03:49.37 | ThunderLord | how big SSD? |
| 03:49.40 | sharf224 | 128 |
| 03:49.44 | sharf224 | and because it's an ultrabook |
| 03:49.48 | ThunderLord | ... |
| 03:49.54 | ThunderLord | you have a very small harddrive |
| 03:50.01 | sharf224 | it's not a hard drive |
| 03:50.02 | sharf224 | also |
| 03:50.05 | sharf224 | I don't need much |
| 03:50.10 | sharf224 | my desktop's hdd is 160 |
| 03:50.13 | ThunderLord | U need starcraft |
| 03:50.36 | sharf224 | lol |
| 03:50.45 | ThunderLord | like all u have space for is ur OS and starcraft |
| 03:51.05 | ThunderLord | Diablo, WoW Starcraft and OS would be more than 128 |
| 03:51.21 | sharf224 | I have d3, sc2, plus a bunch of other games |
| 03:51.27 | sharf224 | d3 and sc2 is only like 40 |
| 03:51.30 | ThunderLord | u need WoW for model importing |
| 03:52.22 | ThunderLord | btw... does anyone have a working version of wow model viewer? |
| 03:58.19 | progammer | OMG i'm on a protoss ship, I cant wait for LotV |
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| 04:07.35 | tordy | wassup dudes |
| 04:07.40 | sharf224 | omfg |
| 04:07.42 | tordy | and dudettes |
| 04:07.44 | sharf224 | optimizing AGAIN |
| 04:08.55 | JademusSreg | Yeah, protoss ship terrain looks sweet. <3 |
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| 04:31.47 | ThunderLord | what can i do for the next 2.5 hours... |
| 04:31.58 | ThunderLord | anyone know of a good tv show or somthing? |
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| 04:35.06 | ThunderLord | ur all already playing hots arnt u??? |
| 04:35.24 | Vindicator | mine's coming in the mail in 12-16 hours |
| 04:36.15 | ThunderLord | bro |
| 04:36.18 | ThunderLord | u get collectors? |
| 04:36.21 | Vindicator | ya |
| 04:36.53 | ThunderLord | Fistbumps Vindicator |
| 04:36.55 | ThunderLord | me too |
| 04:37.35 | ThunderLord | but i have an alt account, so... i bought an online edition too |
| 04:37.59 | Vindicator | ya i had an EU account, but since global play is here i doubt i'll be upgrading it |
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| 05:02.52 | iMisu | http://imgur.com/IPzNLNu |
| 05:02.55 | iMisu | shit mt |
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| 05:05.04 | iMisu | http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=&sku=886739&Q=&is=REG&A=details |
| 05:05.24 | xcorboPC | I like abathur too |
| 05:05.42 | xcorboPC | he's just so effective and cares about nothing but effectiveness |
| 05:05.53 | iMisu | http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-mDisplayPort-Graphics-04G-P4-2690-KR/dp/B007ZRO3U4 |
| 05:06.11 | iMisu | 680 FPS in sc2 |
| 05:09.24 | xcorboPC | that's bigger than my laptop |
| 05:09.25 | xcorboPC | :P |
| 05:16.11 | iMisu | http://imgur.com/7G0pc1m :P |
| 05:16.34 | xcorboPC | lol |
| 05:16.55 | xcorboPC | well my lappy used to run wol in extreme |
| 05:17.01 | xcorboPC | now it doesn't do that well with hots |
| 05:17.03 | xcorboPC | but I am happy |
| 05:17.14 | xcorboPC | I change to extreme when I know there's a cutscene incoming |
| 05:17.20 | xcorboPC | and play the missions on medium |
| 05:17.23 | xcorboPC | :P |
| 05:17.38 | iMisu | perks of working at intel :D |
| 05:18.00 | JademusSreg | Ah, like my pal cosmicat. |
| 05:18.13 | iMisu | intel in ca ? |
| 05:18.52 | JademusSreg | Intel in somewhere, I neglected to pay attention to that detail of location. =D |
| 05:20.17 | JademusSreg | I think he's in Washington, but may be mistaken. |
| 05:20.34 | progammer | xcorboPC ugh most cutscence are now prerendered :( |
| 05:20.43 | xcorboPC | they are. |
| 05:20.51 | xcorboPC | but there's some that are not |
| 05:21.00 | xcorboPC | like the evolution missions |
| 05:21.08 | xcorboPC | where you see a planet flyinto |
| 05:21.13 | xcorboPC | I want to see how they do that effect |
| 05:21.25 | JademusSreg | Any chance HotS lifts the blanket prohibition on video? |
| 05:21.36 | xcorboPC | the what? |
| 05:21.51 | progammer | video texture ? that one is lifted |
| 05:22.01 | xcorboPC | huh? |
| 05:22.02 | JademusSreg | Video and movie dialog controls, rtt and such. |
| 05:22.19 | JademusSreg | So rtt works on bnet now? |
| 05:22.19 | progammer | ya that evolution mission are nice effect |
| 05:22.32 | progammer | yep, check renee's thread on that |
| 05:22.48 | JademusSreg | Neato. Just wondering. |
| 05:23.25 | JademusSreg | May make use of it. Certainly merits tinkering. |
| 05:23.39 | progammer | lol you talked like abarthur |
| 05:23.42 | progammer | i really liked him |
| 05:24.03 | JademusSreg | I am not familiar with abarthur. |
| 05:24.14 | progammer | he's in hots, just wait i wont spoil |
| 05:24.45 | JademusSreg | Not concerned with spoilers; I read the MassEffect wiki rather than play the games. |
| 05:25.09 | progammer | that game is boring though |
| 05:25.14 | progammer | btw here's your thread http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/49749-my-1-min-cutscene-new-gettysburg-briefing-room/?unread |
| 05:25.52 | JademusSreg | Saved a great deal of time, at least; I was curious as to the motive of the Reapers. |
| 05:26.21 | xcorboPC | man |
| 05:26.36 | xcorboPC | the frst hots missions have been greatly designed |
| 05:26.47 | xcorboPC | some nice concepts for maps |
| 05:26.49 | JademusSreg | I don't usually read the forums, but Renee makes interesting things. Thanks. |
| 05:27.44 | ThunderLord | THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT US |
| 05:27.50 | ThunderLord | ON THE STARCRAFT LAUNCH STREAM |
| 05:28.05 | ThunderLord | BARCRAFT IS BEING SHOWN |
| 05:28.07 | JademusSreg | If it has yet to be tested, may tinker with video and movie dialog controls again. |
| 05:28.23 | Kubi | Aww |
| 05:28.26 | Kubi | They're talking about us |
| 05:28.29 | Kubi | How cute |
| 05:28.34 | Kubi | ~seen Blizz-Deletarius |
| 05:28.38 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 17d 13h 16m 27s ago, saying: 'I believe it is possible, but I'm not exactly sure which actor message it is'. |
| 05:28.38 | Kubi | Figures |
| 05:28.57 | ThunderLord | AMG THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT US, CUTSCENE EDITOR |
| 05:29.04 | ThunderLord | TALKING ABOUT TRIGGERS |
| 05:29.09 | ThunderLord | NOBODY HAS A FUCKING CLUE |
| 05:29.11 | ThunderLord | BUT I DO! |
| 05:30.12 | Kubi | ME TOO |
| 05:30.18 | Kubi | THIS IS RELEVANT TO ONLY PEOPLE IN THIS CHANNEL |
| 05:30.25 | ThunderLord | FISTBUMP |
| 05:30.35 | JademusSreg | Talking about who? |
| 05:30.51 | ThunderLord | they are like "MAN THUNDERLORD IS THE SHIT!" |
| 05:31.00 | JademusSreg | I am skeptical. |
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| 09:22.40 | *** topic/#sc2mapster is http://sc2mapster.com | sc2mapster bnet2 channel | HotS Launch coming soon! | We want your broken maps! http://bit.ly/aU9AgC | This channel is logged, via purl |
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| 09:23.25 | turtles | a few per race |
| 09:23.34 | zenxu | but in assets |
| 09:23.36 | zenxu | like in campaign |
| 09:24.04 | turtles | I haven't encountered any *new* units |
| 09:24.13 | turtles | but you can heavily modify your units |
| 09:24.31 | turtles | for example zerglings that can cliff jump |
| 09:24.39 | turtles | oh and abherations |
| 09:24.47 | turtles | which were in WOL campaign |
| 09:25.10 | turtles | banelings that, when detonate, produce smaller banelings |
| 09:25.14 | turtles | etcetc |
| 09:26.07 | zenxu | ill probly still wait week or two atleast and see wheter I wana get hots |
| 09:26.15 | A1win | there are some new units as enemies |
| 09:26.54 | Ownage | for saving banks, should I be doing this when a player leaves game? |
| 09:27.05 | Ownage | or is this the kind of thing you do as events happen during the game |
| 09:27.21 | Sevenix | is the editor improved in HoTS? |
| 09:27.26 | turtles | if you do not save then you cannot garuntee the changes will be in effect |
| 09:27.37 | turtles | so you can save after every change |
| 09:27.52 | turtles | or if you have a lot of changes then do them in bulk and then save afterwards |
| 09:28.13 | zenxu | I dont think there are any huge improvenments on hots editor |
| 09:28.41 | Ownage | ok thanks |
| 09:28.57 | turtles | The editor is the same as WOL. The HOTS editor just has access to HOTS assets |
| 09:29.14 | turtles | but they made some pretty big improvements (i think) a month or 2 back |
| 09:29.22 | Sevenix | and battle.net, still not even worth it trying to create a map seeing it will never get played? |
| 09:29.22 | turtles | in preperation for HOTS |
| 09:29.46 | turtles | Sevenix - in my opinion, yes |
| 09:29.52 | Sevenix | =/ |
| 09:29.57 | turtles | unless you have an out of game community |
| 09:30.09 | Sevenix | my mapping group was really excited about SC2 at release, then we went back to wc3 :P |
| 09:30.55 | Ownage | how can I stop a enters region trigger from firing so many times |
| 09:31.06 | Ownage | I have 10 units in stack, I move over region and it fires 10 times |
| 09:31.07 | turtles | disable the trigger? |
| 09:31.13 | zenxu | the question is. will the community be bigger now |
| 09:31.17 | Ownage | the first action in the trigger is turn current trigger off |
| 09:31.21 | Ownage | and the last action is turn it on |
| 09:31.29 | Ownage | and there's a wait of 2 seconds in the trigger |
| 09:31.37 | Ownage | yet it still triggers instantaneously 10 times |
| 09:31.42 | turtles | that won't nescissarily work |
| 09:32.07 | turtles | as there is a thread for triggers and one for in game stuff |
| 09:32.24 | Ownage | ok, so yeah that won't work |
| 09:32.32 | Ownage | any idea? |
| 09:32.47 | Ownage | should I do a periodic 1 second check if unit is in region? |
| 09:33.05 | turtles | you could create a global variable and check it at the start of the trigger |
| 09:33.23 | turtles | so the first unit that triggers it will change the variable |
| 09:33.50 | turtles | and have the variable in the conditions of the trigger so it ignores it the other times |
| 09:34.00 | turtles | ^ thats one way i guess |
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| 09:48.08 | Ownage | hey, trying to seed random |
| 09:48.14 | Ownage | at beginning of game |
| 09:48.34 | Ownage | is there a way to get the current mouse location of someone, or the position of their screen or something |
| 09:51.52 | A1win | both, but mouse detection can be laggy |
| 09:52.01 | A1win | you can get the current camera target of a player |
| 09:52.03 | A1win | as a point |
| 09:52.41 | A1win | mouse can be detected only with the Mouse Moved event |
| 09:52.44 | A1win | or mouse clicked |
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| 10:01.03 | Ownage | this is going to sound very stupid |
| 10:01.26 | Ownage | I'm scratching into balance, as my map is starting to take shape. How do I change ghost damage? |
| 10:02.49 | Zolden | weapon -> damage effect -> amount field |
| 10:03.18 | Ownage | thanks |
| 10:06.14 | Reaperguyver | I should be working on my map but I'm too tired = / |
| 10:06.28 | Reaperguyver | Anyone remember Castle Fight for wc3? |
| 10:06.33 | Ownage | yes I do |
| 10:06.41 | Ownage | damnit I can't figure this damn stupid crap out |
| 10:06.41 | Reaperguyver | Trying to remake that. lol |
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| 10:07.06 | Ownage | I'm trying to randomly assign units owned by p0 to each player |
| 10:07.07 | Reaperguyver | pick the ghost unit and under effects it says (Damage) |
| 10:07.13 | Ownage | but every game it's the exact same ones |
| 10:07.16 | Reaperguyver | hhhmmm |
| 10:07.35 | Ownage | I even added it inside of a mouse move and get the x of the moved mouse and seed random with that |
| 10:07.36 | Reaperguyver | Do you have a variable that's a random integer? |
| 10:07.52 | Reaperguyver | wow that's better than what I woulda done lol. |
| 10:08.28 | Ownage | http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/8960/capturelcq.png |
| 10:08.52 | Ownage | oh shit I think I know what I did |
| 10:09.31 | Reaperguyver | lol sometimes you just gotta look at it. |
| 10:09.46 | Reaperguyver | Otherwise I have a longer more round about way to do it = / |
| 10:09.50 | Reaperguyver | Maybe. |
| 10:11.56 | Ownage | I set the limit to 1 |
| 10:12.09 | Ownage | thinking that meant, randomly pick from all of them, and just stop at the first one you find |
| 10:12.21 | Ownage | but in fact it means select 1 and randomly select from within that 1 |
| 10:16.35 | turtles | looking for a tester |
| 10:16.57 | turtles | if anyone has a few minutes free to help out that would be awesome |
| 10:17.11 | turtles | (also willing to test for other people) |
| 10:17.22 | turtles | in HOTS btw |
| 10:19.01 | Reaperguyver | sorry my best buy was closed so no midnight release for me :( |
| 10:20.09 | turtles | oh, yeah I got it last night |
| 10:20.26 | turtles | I didn't think about timezones and how a lot of americans might not be on yet |
| 10:23.06 | Ownage | how do you set a unit to be hotkeyed by default |
| 10:24.38 | Ownage | or is that what a control group means? |
| 10:25.36 | turtles | That's what control groups are |
| 10:25.42 | Ownage | ok thanks |
| 10:40.14 | Ahli_ | lol @ that random unit from bunker group in that trigger |
| 10:40.34 | Ahli_ | random unit from a group of 1 is... ineffective |
| 10:40.47 | Ahli_ | *inefficient |
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| 10:45.40 | Ahli_ | also, hots has 27 missions total :D |
| 10:50.02 | Ownage | har har har |
| 10:50.08 | Ownage | sucks to be new I guess |
| 10:50.15 | Ownage | next laughable question is |
| 10:50.37 | Ownage | I have added a player column and players to leaderboard, how do I know which row they are now? |
| 10:54.07 | Zolden | Ahli_: how much wol has? |
| 10:54.42 | Zolden | Dune II had 9 |
| 10:55.13 | Zolden | Warcraft 1 had... don't remember... 12 maybe? |
| 11:14.11 | Ahli_ | 28 I believe |
| 11:14.26 | Ahli_ | I can't change the volume of the music in options |
| 11:28.56 | G0A | any idea whats the best way to make a terrain which I can fully look through including cliffs? |
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| 11:42.39 | Zolden | G0A: maybe use doodads instead of cliffs and set occlusion on? |
| 11:44.31 | Zolden | G0A: another way - use cameras and objects with RTT texture |
| 11:54.17 | G0A | lol |
| 11:56.06 | G0A | it turns out that you can hide terrain cells, but I cant find a way to hide cliff |
| 11:58.13 | G0A | seems like somehow I haxed it:D |
| 11:58.45 | Vindicator | ya, i've never been able to hide cliffs either |
| 11:59.34 | G0A | I might managed to do it:D |
| 12:01.36 | G0A | nope.( |
| 12:01.42 | Ahli_ | yay, card arrived and it's super cold |
| 12:03.11 | Ownage | I'm confused about how burrowing works |
| 12:03.17 | Ownage | I have copied baneling |
| 12:03.29 | Ownage | I want to create one of these other banelings but have it be burrowed |
| 12:03.47 | Ownage | but I don't find a copied baneling (burrowed) unit |
| 12:03.58 | Ownage | if I just copy the one that's there, how would I link them |
| 12:04.09 | Ownage | and further more, what will this thing make if I burrow with it? |
| 12:04.47 | Ownage | I mean if I burrow and unburrow would it turn it back to the normal baneling? |
| 12:04.50 | Ownage | confused |
| 12:06.16 | Ownage | ah I think I see it |
| 12:07.55 | A1win | :x didn't get the 20 brutal missions achievement even though I completed the entire campaign on brutal |
| 12:09.25 | progammer | A1win you done through all ?, im just done all normal :P |
| 12:09.57 | A1win | didn't get any of the achievements for completing x missions on some difficulty O.o |
| 12:10.13 | Ahli_ | just pulled a 20cm long hair out of my gfx |
| 12:10.14 | A1win | err now it's showing some |
| 12:10.15 | progammer | achivements are always bugged out first release |
| 12:10.24 | Ahli_ | also red hair |
| 12:10.51 | G0A | Vindicator ahh I can have the whole map without cliff it has no terrain level changes:) |
| 12:11.21 | Ahli_ | if you want to have a more bugfree game you need to buy it a few weeks after release :D |
| 12:11.54 | A1win | hehe |
| 12:14.09 | A1win | x_X that took 13 hours |
| 12:15.14 | progammer | i need some sleep too :( |
| 12:18.45 | A1win | ah, found the mission I didn't get an achievement for |
| 12:18.58 | A1win | apparently the evolution missions aren't counted for the 20 missions achievement |
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| 12:28.14 | Zolden | G0A: u like videos from russia, right? http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/tragemata/25155229/2562390/2562390_original.gif |
| 12:28.46 | G0A | nice |
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| 12:48.41 | Zolden | noticed that his heart beats in the same rhytm as the song he listens to has |
| 12:48.48 | Zolden | is it coincidence? |
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| 13:09.56 | Dustin|Work | Sup peoplee |
| 13:11.56 | Zolden | sup = suck uprised penis |
| 13:21.24 | Dustin|Work | lol |
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| 13:43.11 | Ahli | I hate bossfights |
| 13:45.05 | Ahli | frickin how to beat belial? |
| 13:46.11 | Zolden | Ahli: easy, play on hard or normal |
| 13:46.43 | zenxu | belial was a bitch indeed |
| 13:46.51 | zenxu | I hate that its not really about skill |
| 13:46.58 | Ahli | my army dies within the first seconds |
| 13:47.01 | zenxu | just fucking spamfest |
| 13:47.24 | Ahli | and then I cant kill his units fast enough to damage belial enough |
| 13:47.28 | zenxu | didnt they even add "enrage" |
| 13:47.33 | zenxu | what makes it even more bullshit |
| 13:49.21 | Ahli | brutal isn't super challenging and then they add that boss |
| 13:49.42 | Ahli | 2nd boss was super easy, first was when you learned how to deal vs him |
| 13:50.18 | Ahli | do I need to keep my army alive? |
| 13:50.25 | Bommes | the sc2 b elial? |
| 13:50.26 | Bommes | nope |
| 13:50.28 | Bommes | no need |
| 13:50.47 | Bommes | i sent 2 units to the top corner though and they didnt die there for maybe a minute or so |
| 13:50.50 | Bommes | that helped a little bit |
| 13:50.52 | Ahli | the most I gain of their existence is focus fire damage on that dude at start |
| 13:50.54 | Bommes | just spam your abilites |
| 13:50.59 | Bommes | against the units that spawn |
| 13:51.06 | Bommes | and try to get good lines and kill everything with the dash |
| 13:51.07 | Zolden | Dustin|Work: I heard you're good with referencing shit, so there is a question: I have an ability which should issue all units in an area an oreder to attack unit/point. So, abil -> search -> issue order. Issue order has Target+ and Unit+ fields. And their values are...? |
| 13:51.22 | Bommes | I thought the dash and the jump and the heal are super op |
| 13:51.31 | Bommes | and there is almost no way to die with that :D especially the dash and the heal |
| 13:51.53 | Zolden | If I set Target Unit, for example, will it mean target unit of ability or target unit of search efffect? |
| 13:52.21 | Zolden | Maybe abil target is Target Unit and search target is Target Unit Outer? |
| 13:57.02 | Ahli | oh ok, focussing on the units worke dout |
| 13:57.08 | Bommes | man |
| 13:57.12 | Bommes | the ultralisk death ragdolls |
| 13:57.13 | Ahli | when he stops spawning them it's easy peasy again |
| 13:57.13 | Bommes | are gross lol |
| 13:57.26 | Bommes | yeah its all about just chipping away at him when you got time |
| 13:57.43 | Bommes | like every boss fight blizzard ever made |
| 14:00.42 | Bommes | I'm a little bit annoyed that they have lurkers in the campaign but didn't add any ragdoll physics model to them |
| 14:00.46 | Bommes | meh :( |
| 14:01.06 | Dustin|Work | Zolden |
| 14:01.38 | Dustin|Work | Target should be target unit/point and Unit+ should probably be source or Origin |
| 14:02.53 | Zolden | no, source or origin is caster, i need to order units aoruond caster |
| 14:03.27 | Zolden | but i'll if my guess is wrong |
| 14:03.27 | Ownage | how can I remove the health bar and timed life bars from a unit with trigger, not data editing? |
| 14:05.30 | Dustin|Work | I havent use Issue Order in data at all |
| 14:05.38 | Dustin|Work | Soooo :P |
| 14:05.45 | Dustin|Work | Id have to check tonight |
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| 14:14.45 | xcorbo | Hihihihihi |
| 14:18.39 | Dustin|Work | Hi Corbo |
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| 14:21.16 | Taintedwisp | So how is everyone today? |
| 14:21.28 | Dustin|Work | Tired and ready to go home so I can play HOTS campaign |
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| 14:23.00 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:23.18 | Taintedwisp | I have to wait on my lazy brother to wake up so we can go grab our copies.. |
| 14:23.22 | xcorbo | Absolutely tired |
| 14:23.35 | Taintedwisp | corn on the cobo |
| 14:23.36 | xcorbo | I am half asleep at work |
| 14:24.10 | Zolden | I am today as good as was yesterday: doing an amazing data work |
| 14:24.51 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:26.07 | xcorbo | Never work, kids |
| 14:28.09 | Zolden | xcorbo: tell it to them http://www.anypics.ru/images/201210/anypics.ru_9494.jpg |
| 14:28.47 | Zolden | what you call a work today is a rest for them |
| 14:29.06 | xcorbo | Thats a painting |
| 14:29.23 | xcorbo | Or sure looks like one in my cellphone |
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| 14:31.06 | xcorbo | Oh god i just remembered its you |
| 14:31.09 | sharf224 | D: |
| 14:31.47 | xcorbo | Are you going to throw me some motivational spiritual reflexive crap like yesterday, arent you? |
| 14:33.30 | sharf224 | dear god....I'm in over my head with this... |
| 14:33.51 | sharf224 | I'm swapping between dialogs, and I want them to fade in/out as they change |
| 14:34.45 | Taintedwisp | HOTS SPOILER!!! |
| 14:34.49 | Taintedwisp | kerrigans titties grow |
| 14:34.52 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 14:34.54 | Taintedwisp | trolol |
| 14:35.54 | xcorbo | EVERYONE DIES |
| 14:36.07 | Taintedwisp | seriously though dont post any real spoilers :P |
| 14:36.09 | sharf224 | tainted |
| 14:36.17 | Taintedwisp | yes sharf? |
| 14:36.25 | sharf224 | I need help |
| 14:36.29 | Taintedwisp | With? |
| 14:36.34 | sharf224 | but idk if your map does it or not lol |
| 14:36.44 | sharf224 | I have basically built the same selection system as you |
| 14:36.52 | sharf224 | when I click the button to change characters |
| 14:36.59 | sharf224 | screen fades, character changes |
| 14:37.08 | sharf224 | but the gui that describes the character and it's abilities |
| 14:37.23 | sharf224 | just quickly changes via show/hide dialog (I have 1 dialog for each hero) |
| 14:37.32 | sharf224 | I would like it to fade in and out with the screen |
| 14:37.42 | sharf224 | but I can only do that via each dialog item as far as I can tell |
| 14:37.51 | Taintedwisp | No clue :P I dont handle triggers. |
| 14:38.01 | xcorbo | Guys |
| 14:38.06 | Taintedwisp | <---_Data,terrain, art |
| 14:38.08 | xcorbo | Super major spoiler |
| 14:38.18 | xcorbo | Only read at your own risk |
| 14:38.19 | Taintedwisp | Ill kick you in the corn cob |
| 14:38.25 | xcorbo | Kerrigan... |
| 14:38.31 | sharf224 | lol |
| 14:38.34 | xcorbo | Kerrigan is in the game! |
| 14:38.36 | sharf224 | but tainted |
| 14:38.43 | xcorbo | Here i said it |
| 14:38.46 | xcorbo | What now |
| 14:38.55 | Taintedwisp | kicks corbo in the corn cob |
| 14:39.00 | sharf224 | in your map, does the window fade or is it instant? |
| 14:39.06 | sharf224 | I forget |
| 14:39.10 | Taintedwisp | Instant I think |
| 14:39.20 | sharf224 | lol certainly easier |
| 14:39.24 | sharf224 | to do what I want |
| 14:39.36 | sharf224 | I need to store each item in a record probably... |
| 14:39.42 | sharf224 | but that might not even work |
| 14:40.17 | Taintedwisp | Love and marriage love and marriage |
| 14:40.18 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:40.25 | Taintedwisp | go together like a horse and carriage |
| 14:40.29 | Taintedwisp | this I tell you. |
| 14:40.30 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 14:40.33 | sharf224 | everytime I hear that song |
| 14:40.38 | sharf224 | I think of married with children |
| 14:40.39 | Taintedwisp | you cant have one without the other |
| 14:40.43 | sharf224 | Also tainted |
| 14:40.46 | Taintedwisp | lol its the theme song |
| 14:40.57 | sharf224 | what name do you want me to use to credit you in my map? |
| 14:42.01 | Taintedwisp | none :P you dont have to credit me :P i help because I feel like it. |
| 14:42.08 | sharf224 | right |
| 14:42.17 | sharf224 | but I have a Thanks To section on the loading screen |
| 14:42.21 | Taintedwisp | otherwise you can use taintedwisp or ishadowwolf |
| 14:42.33 | sharf224 | I like to acknowledge people who help me |
| 14:42.40 | sharf224 | which would you prefer? |
| 14:42.42 | Taintedwisp | okie :P |
| 14:43.20 | sharf224 | hrmmm I wonder if you could somehow move a dialog item outside of a dialog.... |
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| 14:43.51 | Zolden | JademusSreg: r u here? |
| 14:45.48 | Dustin|Work | sharf, you can, you wont be able to see it, but you can |
| 14:46.58 | Zolden | Dustin|Work: what u said didn't work, it worked weared, but it helped me, because caster started to attack search target, so i know how to reference it now |
| 14:47.20 | Dustin|Work | Good |
| 14:47.40 | Dustin|Work | Working on shit for HOMM? |
| 14:47.44 | Dustin|Work | Oh I had a fucking idea for that shirt |
| 14:47.49 | Dustin|Work | sir* |
| 14:48.08 | Zolden | working on someone's hero |
| 14:48.17 | Zolden | homm needs are simple |
| 14:48.24 | Zolden | this hero is complex |
| 14:48.53 | Dustin|Work | Instead of spawning 1 unit for each one you have, why not do like Original HOMM and add "stacks" That just add the stats of another of the creatures to the units life/attack etc, cause late game it gets HELLLA laggy with all those spawns |
| 14:49.00 | Zolden | and in homm i use triggers, here should be pure data |
| 14:49.05 | Dustin|Work | Gotcha |
| 14:49.30 | Zolden | Dustin, it's a good idea, I will think about it |
| 14:50.21 | Dustin|Work | Good man |
| 14:50.39 | Zolden | well, i just did |
| 14:51.00 | Zolden | and decided that it requires something complex and can't be implemented within the actual system |
| 14:51.15 | Vindicator | i dunno, i like hella laggy when it's for bad ass stuff like that tho :) |
| 14:51.18 | Zolden | wait, maybe it can |
| 14:52.06 | Vindicator | one thing i was thinking though was maybe have every 10 of a unit combined into one that's bigger |
| 14:52.10 | Zolden | anyway, I think i polish the actual homm map with what it has, and some day I create a new homm map, with turn based fights and stacked units and all other stuff |
| 14:53.16 | Zolden | Vindicator: I'd like to, but the whole system of triggers is huge and may require huge fixes to implement stucking units, so I feel like naaaa |
| 14:53.39 | Zolden | *stacking |
| 14:58.30 | sharf224 | stacking units doesn't seem like it should be that hard... |
| 15:00.45 | Dustin|Work | Zolden, instead of spawning Units * Stack Count, just do spawn Unit Add Behavior * Stack Count |
| 15:00.55 | Dustin|Work | Of course I dont know your internals |
| 15:01.01 | Dustin|Work | But shouldnt be to hard :P |
| 15:01.44 | Zolden | everything is hard if you're fixing your 1.5 years old unbelievably noob map |
| 15:02.30 | Zolden | and everything is easy if you assebly the map in your head before you implement it in editor |
| 15:02.30 | Dustin|Work | haha true :P |
| 15:03.51 | xcorbo | I wann hoootssss |
| 15:04.05 | xcorbo | But at my office :( |
| 15:04.24 | xcorbo | Screw it. It is my office, i should just leave right? |
| 15:04.54 | Zolden | call prostitutes, note that yo want them to wear kerrigan outfit and have some dogs with them wearing ling outfit |
| 15:06.39 | G0A | yeah have sex with aliens |
| 15:08.55 | sharf224 | I wont deny it, Kerrigan is pretty hot in this one |
| 15:09.00 | sharf224 | cept for the zerglocks |
| 15:15.48 | sharf224 | hmm anyone got any good abilities for a Melee damage per second hero? It will have 3 levels |
| 15:23.05 | Zolden | oh fuck |
| 15:23.37 | Zolden | i fucking forgot to set the motherfucking abil range, that's why caster had to move to the taeget point |
| 15:24.12 | Zolden | someone call me a noob pls |
| 15:24.46 | sharf224 | noob |
| 15:24.51 | Zolden | thank you |
| 15:33.01 | Ahli | you can stack siege tanks with vipers |
| 15:36.32 | xcorbo | Really? |
| 15:36.38 | xcorbo | Awesome |
| 15:38.26 | sharf | what the hell |
| 15:41.43 | Ahli | at least in campaign |
| 15:41.47 | Ahli | in the evolve mission |
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| 15:42.24 | Ahli | ati sucks, produces a few graphic mistakes :S |
| 15:42.49 | Ahli | but blizz is working closely with nvidia, don't they? |
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| 15:47.54 | Zolden | what mistakes, Ahli? |
| 15:48.48 | sharf | ok I know somewhere I can edit what info is shown in the game lobby...but I can't find it now |
| 15:51.52 | Ownage | amp > map info |
| 15:51.57 | Ownage | map > map info |
| 15:52.02 | Ownage | and map > battle.net info |
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| 15:55.26 | xcorbo | Ati indeed does suck |
| 15:55.46 | xcorbo | I cannot run max 2011 cause of their stupid drivers |
| 16:10.00 | Ownage | what does 'unstoppable' flag mean? |
| 16:14.24 | twodie | Lol, in hots campaign spaceships dota almost created... now left to wait few days weeks to see that map used as dota map. |
| 16:16.15 | Zolden | peacefully mapping, doens't play bloody campaign |
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| 16:17.49 | twodie | i spent almost all day watching others playing the campaign :]] |
| 16:21.20 | sharf | hmm need a name for my map that isnt taken on arcade |
| 16:21.35 | G0A | twodie how is that mission called? |
| 16:24.54 | twodie | idk |
| 16:26.28 | Zolden | sharf call it vbliyerkjsvhdfjkvygekrugvyskdfyg, it's not taken |
| 16:28.49 | zenxu | someone write a short review of hots on mapster |
| 16:28.50 | zenxu | thanks |
| 16:29.54 | sharf | lol.... |
| 16:29.59 | sharf | not exactly descriptive |
| 16:30.33 | zenxu | I kinda want hots too |
| 16:30.41 | zenxu | but I just dont think it offers enough |
| 16:30.53 | zenxu | so I gues I just gona watch some hots videos till I get bored |
| 16:32.01 | xcorbo | Call it |
| 16:32.09 | xcorbo | Corbo is awesome |
| 16:32.15 | Stranger | Call your map something that helps players understand the gameplay |
| 16:32.19 | xcorbo | What kind of map is it? |
| 16:32.26 | xcorbo | Could be corbo rpg |
| 16:32.27 | xcorbo | Corbo fps |
| 16:32.39 | xcorbo | Corbocraft |
| 16:32.50 | xcorbo | Heart of the corbo |
| 16:32.53 | sharf | Well |
| 16:33.00 | xcorbo | Your choice |
| 16:33.07 | sharf | it's Town Defense |
| 16:33.09 | sharf | that is taken |
| 16:33.15 | sharf | so is mini town defense lol |
| 16:33.17 | sharf | so |
| 16:33.21 | sharf | yeah |
| 16:33.55 | G0A | call your map HOTS and you win popularity.D |
| 16:34.06 | sharf | lol |
| 16:34.15 | Vindicator | screw the name, put kerrigan on all fours and make her bark and u win #1 top played :) |
| 16:34.45 | sharf | lol... |
| 16:34.50 | sharf | kinky shit |
| 16:36.56 | ThunderLord | TAINTEDWISP |
| 16:37.10 | ThunderLord | HOTS GAVE US TEAM COLORED HERO GLOW |
| 16:37.15 | ThunderLord | HAVE U PLAYED CAMPAIGN? |
| 16:37.29 | xcorbo | Hmmm |
| 16:37.40 | xcorbo | Call it village defence? |
| 16:37.53 | xcorbo | Or town D |
| 16:38.51 | Ahli | zolden, just shadow mistakes and randomly a few models flicker slightly |
| 16:39.15 | Ahli | also, there is a bug that happened 3 times for me now where sound is repeated and repeated and repeated |
| 16:41.14 | xcorbo | But thats not a video thing |
| 16:41.28 | G0A | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qF-NoQFJrxc |
| 16:41.33 | sharf | hmm whats a good icon for a taunt ability |
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| 16:52.03 | xcorbo | Or corbo defense |
| 16:52.11 | xcorbo | Or town corbo |
| 16:52.21 | sharf | lol... |
| 16:52.36 | sharf | Defend the Town? |
| 16:52.57 | xcorbo | Just aname it |
| 16:53.29 | xcorbo | Town D SUPER EXTREME VERSION JUNGLE 8.34b |
| 16:53.35 | sharf | lol right now I'm using Town Defense - sharf for the private releases |
| 16:53.38 | sharf | lol |
| 16:53.41 | xcorbo | Reminds me sc1mao names. |
| 16:53.47 | xcorbo | So many versions |
| 16:53.59 | sharf | lol |
| 16:54.00 | xcorbo | Just do Town D |
| 16:54.21 | sharf | I have to say I am enjoying some of the functionality of the arcade |
| 16:56.23 | xcorbo | Like? |
| 16:56.50 | sharf | the whole system where you can have screenshots, version info, how to play etc. |
| 16:57.56 | xcorbo | Oh yeah |
| 16:58.01 | xcorbo | Thats pretty cool |
| 16:58.21 | sharf | the hosting system is a little wonky |
| 17:05.28 | xcorbo | I wanna make a map |
| 17:05.45 | xcorbo | Whats a good thing to start with? |
| 17:05.58 | sharf | never made a sc2 map? |
| 17:10.08 | xcorbo | I have focused myself on tutorials resources graphics and models |
| 17:10.13 | xcorbo | And little tests |
| 17:10.20 | xcorbo | Never really a map |
| 17:10.42 | sharf | ah |
| 17:10.58 | sharf | I decided to start out by lunging myself into a map I liked from sc1 |
| 17:11.05 | sharf | learning as I go on something relatively simple |
| 17:11.14 | sharf | and as I learn it gets more and more complex lol |
| 17:11.54 | Bommes | Is there a documentation somewhere how the camera panning over time works? |
| 17:12.33 | Bommes | as in what the formula is on how fast it is panning |
| 17:13.00 | xcorbo | Well if i did that i would end up making bounds |
| 17:13.02 | Bommes | -on +for |
| 17:13.08 | xcorbo | Thats all i did in sc1 :p |
| 17:13.10 | sharf | lol |
| 17:14.32 | xcorbo | What i want to make takes place in space |
| 17:14.39 | xcorbo | Like only space |
| 17:14.56 | xcorbo | Somewhat telling the story of terran begginings |
| 17:15.15 | sharf | I have another map project I want to make, that involves like 4 races |
| 17:15.18 | xcorbo | So space exploration + planet colonization as resources and ships |
| 17:15.21 | sharf | and they'd all be custom |
| 17:15.29 | xcorbo | Huge ships that look primitive |
| 17:15.34 | xcorbo | Like early terran |
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| 17:16.10 | tordy | happy swarm launch friends! |
| 17:17.07 | Dustin|Work | Hi tordster |
| 17:17.24 | tordy | sup browder, good day for u today |
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| 17:20.39 | Dustin|Work | I know right |
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| 17:57.26 | sharf | ok I can't make heads or tails of this error |
| 18:01.30 | sharf | any ideas? |
| 18:01.30 | sharf | http://pastebin.com/Rxk6Teh8 |
| 18:07.37 | A1win | find that line first ;p |
| 18:07.51 | sharf | ? |
| 18:08.02 | ThunderLord | anyone added HOTS dependencies to their game yet? |
| 18:08.06 | A1win | "Near line 4610 in..." |
| 18:08.14 | A1win | ctrl+F11, edit - go to line number |
| 18:08.18 | A1win | or something like that |
| 18:08.48 | sharf | I don't get why there are like 6 different errors for that |
| 18:09.16 | ThunderLord | when i try and add HOTS dependencies it says there are conflicts and it could cause big problems \: |
| 18:09.20 | sharf | it is also lagging horribly now, for some reason |
| 18:09.37 | A1win | in programming, often other errors are caused by one error |
| 18:09.41 | Reaperguyver | eeepppp = / |
| 18:09.42 | A1win | fix first error first |
| 18:09.56 | sharf | yeah yeah I know lol |
| 18:10.14 | Reaperguyver | Probably because the map was not designed in hots so trying to modify it could be causing problems by adding hots units? |
| 18:10.36 | A1win | it seems to be something related to catalogs, you're trying to read a value from a nonexisting field or something like that |
| 18:10.41 | A1win | or from a field that can't be read |
| 18:10.54 | sharf | ok well |
| 18:11.00 | sharf | there are only 997 lines in my thing... |
| 18:11.05 | sharf | so idk how there is an error on 4606 |
| 18:11.20 | A1win | oh right |
| 18:11.24 | A1win | that's in native code |
| 18:11.33 | A1win | so you don't have the line number reference |
| 18:11.52 | A1win | you could try the "break on error" thing in editor test game preferences |
| 18:12.21 | sharf | this is the line |
| 18:12.23 | sharf | libNtve_gf_CreateUnitsWithDefaultFacing(1, gv_heroType[lv_iButton], 0, EventPlayer(), PointFromId(7)); |
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| 18:13.19 | sharf | ok the other errors are because they can't add unit to unit group |
| 18:13.25 | sharf | because it errors on the unit creation |
| 18:13.53 | sharf | hmm |
| 18:13.58 | Kubi | Fuck |
| 18:14.00 | Kubi | I ran out of minerals |
| 18:14.08 | Kubi | Brutal |
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| 18:14.35 | sharf | ok...hang on I think I know the issue |
| 18:14.36 | sharf | maybe |
| 18:15.01 | A1win | I ran almost every mission with roach/hydra + the 100% attack speed aoe buff ability <.< |
| 18:15.12 | Kubi | you play brutal? |
| 18:15.19 | sharf | shush! |
| 18:15.21 | A1win | yeah, took 13 hours to complete |
| 18:15.25 | Kubi | I'm on like the third mission when kerrigan goes back for |
| 18:15.27 | Kubi | jim |
| 18:15.31 | sharf | ARGH! |
| 18:15.37 | Kubi | i shouldve spammed swarm queens |
| 18:15.40 | sharf | spoilers |
| 18:15.44 | Kubi | No spoilers |
| 18:15.52 | Kubi | Wait you mean when jim dies?? |
| 18:15.54 | sharf | "kerrigan goes back for jim" |
| 18:15.59 | Kubi | that tells you nothing |
| 18:16.04 | Kubi | It could mean |
| 18:16.11 | Kubi | Kerrigan goes bareback for Jim |
| 18:16.12 | Kubi | or |
| 18:16.17 | Kubi | Kerrigan backs jim up |
| 18:16.18 | Kubi | Or |
| 18:16.29 | sharf | yes |
| 18:16.32 | Triceron | or it means Jim dies |
| 18:16.33 | Kubi | Recuses him from a planet because he got trapped |
| 18:16.43 | Kubi | but it's most likely the last one |
| 18:16.52 | Kubi | Spoilers never real get to me |
| 18:16.57 | Kubi | you could tell me what happens at the end right now |
| 18:17.00 | Kubi | i wouldnt care |
| 18:17.09 | Triceron | don't worry |
| 18:17.10 | Triceron | you won't |
| 18:17.38 | sharf | : |
| 18:17.41 | sharf | :/ |
| 18:17.43 | Kubi | lol |
| 18:17.45 | Kubi | I ran out of minerals |
| 18:17.47 | Kubi | and I only have kerrigan |
| 18:17.50 | sharf | wow holy crap is my map lagging wth |
| 18:17.51 | Kubi | thank god she respawns |
| 18:17.57 | Kubi | I like the hero ui |
| 18:17.58 | Kubi | though |
| 18:18.01 | Kubi | I need to put that in my map |
| 18:18.39 | xcorbo | Guyyys |
| 18:18.44 | xcorbo | Spoiler warning |
| 18:18.52 | xcorbo | Raynor... |
| 18:18.59 | xcorbo | Raynor is in the game! |
| 18:19.02 | Triceron | is actually a Protoss |
| 18:19.19 | Kubi | I like his new model though |
| 18:19.21 | Kubi | fucking baller |
| 18:19.24 | Triceron | in game? |
| 18:19.28 | Kubi | yea |
| 18:19.35 | Triceron | I didn't even notice it |
| 18:19.38 | sharf | what's the best way to test for lag in a map? |
| 18:19.42 | Triceron | he's not just the marine suit? |
| 18:19.49 | Triceron | with the skull |
| 18:20.49 | Kubi | Sharf, run the debugger |
| 18:21.04 | Kubi | well |
| 18:21.05 | Kubi | he has |
| 18:21.07 | Kubi | a new model |
| 18:21.43 | Triceron | i heard even nova got a new model |
| 18:21.58 | Triceron | but I didn't even notice she had a big presence in the campaign |
| 18:22.57 | sharf | I have the debugger open |
| 18:22.59 | xcorbo | She did not |
| 18:23.12 | xcorbo | and She's a bitch |
| 18:23.48 | Triceron | oh raynor does have a new model |
| 18:23.49 | Triceron | sweet |
| 18:23.56 | sharf | why is that lagging... |
| 18:23.59 | xcorbo | He does |
| 18:24.13 | Triceron | watched the campaign in a tiny screen in the corner of my screen, didn't notice before |
| 18:24.22 | Kubi | I like new lab tileset |
| 18:24.25 | Kubi | im about to see the ice one |
| 18:25.01 | Triceron | kinda want regular marines to look that good now |
| 18:25.01 | Triceron | lol |
| 18:25.14 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 18:25.16 | xcorbo | The lab tileset just has awesome doodads |
| 18:25.27 | xcorbo | Textures are okay or we have seen them before |
| 18:25.32 | Triceron | can't wait to see zealot heroes in legacy. Another 2-3 yrs away prolly :/ |
| 18:25.45 | JademusSreg | Oh maaan, talking about terrain sets gets me all hot and bothered. |
| 18:26.05 | xcorbo | How so? |
| 18:26.14 | JademusSreg | Like, "oh my goodness, did you see the size of those pylons on the protoss ship?" |
| 18:26.30 | sharf | WHAT THE FUCK |
| 18:26.39 | sharf | sorry for the language >.> |
| 18:26.41 | sharf | so |
| 18:26.42 | Triceron | I liked that tram mission |
| 18:26.51 | sharf | changing a timer from 45 seconds to 60 seconds |
| 18:26.54 | sharf | causes severe lag |
| 18:27.46 | JademusSreg | That's certainly not the problem in the most direct sense. |
| 18:27.48 | xcorbo | Tram mission? |
| 18:28.07 | xcorbo | The part getting out in a platform? |
| 18:28.16 | sharf | ? |
| 18:28.23 | Triceron | after the first mission boss |
| 18:28.25 | Zolden | JademusSreg: I think chinese spies had stolen your secret technology |
| 18:28.29 | sharf | was that at me jademus? |
| 18:28.30 | JademusSreg | I haven't purchased HotS, though. |
| 18:28.50 | Triceron | Im holding off on HOTS for now |
| 18:28.55 | xcorbo | Why? |
| 18:29.09 | Triceron | doesn't seem like it'll impact my current modding anyways |
| 18:29.27 | Triceron | editor is the same, just less assets |
| 18:29.31 | JademusSreg | Zol, ah, you mean they are using models for UI elements? No surprise; they tend to pioneer SC2's technical features. |
| 18:29.58 | JademusSreg | They were the first to figure out wc3-style heroes with xml editing during the beta. |
| 18:30.30 | Zolden | JademusSreg: not sure if they use it, but they create them: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/artist-tavern/49267-sc2-particle-test-of-star-tools/?post=20 |
| 18:32.04 | sharf | hmm... |
| 18:32.25 | JademusSreg | No worries. For most users, implementing UI models would be too much work and likely require custom assets. Unless someone does it for them with packaged assets and libraries, it won't be all that common. |
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| 18:34.05 | JademusSreg | Corb, haven't bought it because, like Tri said, all the editor tech is there. It's assets and a campaign, and I can wait for that, easily. |
| 18:34.28 | sharf | I got it half price :P |
| 18:34.36 | JademusSreg | Congrats. |
| 18:34.54 | sharf | got the WoL HOTS combo |
| 18:35.13 | sharf | why does that do that... |
| 18:35.36 | A1win | I wonder how badly CraftCraft will break if I load and re-save it in the 2.0 editor |
| 18:35.37 | Bommes | Triceron: Does the whole physics thing work if you try it in the WoL dependencies editor? |
| 18:35.53 | A1win | it's on page 4 on top played again x\ |
| 18:36.03 | Triceron | hmm, I haven't tested in WOL |
| 18:36.27 | Bommes | would be interesting to know, so if you get the chance to try it at some point in the future let me know if possible :) |
| 18:36.28 | A1win | and someone just told me he's stats got reset after he got 50 wins in it x_X *I* don't have 50 wins in it |
| 18:36.30 | Triceron | wait is physics a HOTS only thing? I thought it carried over to WoL |
| 18:36.43 | Bommes | I don't know, I always thought it's HotS only |
| 18:36.45 | JademusSreg | So far as I am aware, all the physics data is in WoL. |
| 18:36.55 | Bommes | because the HotS assets are the only ones |
| 18:36.58 | Bommes | that have physics bodies |
| 18:37.04 | Bommes | but all the data probably works for imported things |
| 18:37.08 | Triceron | em, lemme run my test map |
| 18:37.10 | Bommes | with physics bodies |
| 18:37.25 | sharf | hmm |
| 18:37.27 | JademusSreg | Whether or not the feature is implemented in WoL is another matter. |
| 18:37.35 | sharf | if you use HoTS models, can you still make it a WoL map |
| 18:37.40 | JademusSreg | Haven't had time to test it in WoL yet. |
| 18:37.48 | Bommes | How so? |
| 18:37.51 | JademusSreg | sharf, yes, plus a bonus ban. |
| 18:37.53 | Bommes | you mean WoL only? |
| 18:38.28 | Kubi | Mass Swarm Quees |
| 18:38.30 | Kubi | queens |
| 18:38.31 | JademusSreg | Blizzard will ban your map and possibly your rectum for using HotS assets in WoL. |
| 18:38.41 | sharf | a bonus ban? |
| 18:38.50 | Zolden | JademusSreg: you know what I just thought. Using displacement materials. They look like a glass when you see through it. And besides the fact that they look cool, they can work literally like a lens, refracting like a magnifying glass, and this may be used in some fancy way. Also, we can animate the normal map, and cover the whole screen, so it will be under_water effect |
| 18:39.01 | JademusSreg | Precisely, Zol. |
| 18:39.03 | sharf | why? lol |
| 18:39.30 | sharf | idk why that did that... |
| 18:39.46 | sharf | changing th timer from 60 to 45 fixed the lag. changing it back to 60 didn't cause the lag to return |
| 18:39.48 | sharf | da fuq |
| 18:40.00 | Kubi | I wouldn't suggest modding in hots assets |
| 18:40.17 | Triceron | huh, go figure |
| 18:40.18 | A1win | sharf, sounds like it had nothing to do with the timer at all |
| 18:40.29 | sharf | well |
| 18:40.31 | sharf | literally |
| 18:40.32 | Triceron | it looks like physics doesn't work with WOL |
| 18:40.32 | A1win | just a coincidence with something else dropping you framerate |
| 18:40.38 | sharf | lag 6 times in a row |
| 18:40.43 | sharf | change the timer |
| 18:40.45 | sharf | stops lagging |
| 18:40.49 | Triceron | just tested, the body pieces fall straight down no rolling or anything |
| 18:40.52 | sharf | and |
| 18:40.53 | sharf | the ag started |
| 18:41.04 | sharf | at the exact time I made the timer 60 |
| 18:41.11 | Bommes | Triceron: Okay thanks for testing |
| 18:41.26 | Triceron | hmm, that kinda sucks! |
| 18:41.38 | Triceron | gonna need HOTS for spectacular deaths |
| 18:41.55 | Bommes | ;) |
| 18:42.02 | Bommes | the campaign is really good from what I've played so far though |
| 18:42.11 | sharf | so if I want to make my maps super compatible I need to only use WoL assets |
| 18:42.13 | sharf | that's crap |
| 18:42.14 | twodie | http://www.twitch.tv/zeddsc here is SC2 dota.. in campaign.. |
| 18:42.34 | Triceron | yah definitely looks fun |
| 18:42.45 | Triceron | I like some of the boss battles they did |
| 18:43.15 | sharf | ok...how do I put "any unit" in the unit count condition? |
| 18:43.29 | A1win | what unit count condition? |
| 18:43.47 | JademusSreg | Tri, so it's included for compatability, but not used. Makes sense. |
| 18:43.51 | sharf | unit count for player |
| 18:44.13 | Triceron | yeah, the death animation still plays. Physics is just not enabled. |
| 18:44.25 | A1win | use "number of units in unit group" and "units in region matching condition" instead |
| 18:44.34 | Zolden | Triceron: maybe physics engine isn't enabled in wol |
| 18:44.38 | A1win | (units in entire map owned by player x) |
| 18:44.46 | Triceron | yeah |
| 18:44.49 | JademusSreg | Since WoL maps can be played in HotS, nothing stops one from implementing the physics in the data, as the HotS users can still enjoy it. |
| 18:44.53 | Bommes | they probably deactivated the active part of it |
| 18:45.04 | Bommes | the kinematic and dynamic forces or whatever they are called |
| 18:45.07 | G0A | twodie that feels like a starbattle copy.D |
| 18:45.35 | Triceron | well I tested through the editor |
| 18:45.47 | Triceron | there's no physics toggle option in the editor I'm missing right? |
| 18:46.10 | sharf | thanks A1 |
| 18:46.18 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 18:46.22 | Zolden | Triceron: some ppl wich there would be one to save some fps |
| 18:46.26 | Zolden | *whish |
| 18:46.32 | Zolden | *wish |
| 18:46.36 | Bommes | no what jademus means is that you can build a map that can be played by both WoL and HotS and has the same data for both |
| 18:46.37 | A1win | bah some script warnings in craftcraft too |
| 18:46.38 | Bommes | but hots is seeing physics and wol isn't |
| 18:46.41 | Bommes | and that's good |
| 18:46.46 | Bommes | at least that's how i understood it :D |
| 18:46.53 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:47.36 | A1win | in refinery death it seems, that's what I get from modifying stock data instead of making things from scratch I guess :I |
| 18:47.43 | Triceron | my physics setting is ultra |
| 18:47.54 | Triceron | so doesn;t seem like a setting thing |
| 18:48.02 | sharf | hmm I just realized someting.. |
| 18:48.07 | Bommes | No it's because you don't have a HotS license |
| 18:48.13 | JademusSreg | And the physics are purely aesthetic anyway, so one only loses that extra Pretty point. |
| 18:48.14 | sharf | cinematics fade in/out, is that for all players? |
| 18:48.22 | Bommes | but let's say someone else plays your map, who has the HotS license |
| 18:48.25 | Bommes | he could probably see the physics |
| 18:48.31 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 18:48.46 | sharf | how do I do it for just one player? |
| 18:49.00 | JademusSreg | sharf, does it take a playergroup parameter? |
| 18:49.39 | sharf | doesn't look like it |
| 18:50.24 | JademusSreg | Then you don't do it for just one player. |
| 18:50.37 | sharf | :/ kind of need to |
| 18:50.42 | JademusSreg | Can't. |
| 18:50.50 | sharf | nothing of similar effect? |
| 18:50.52 | JademusSreg | Try a dialog control image. |
| 18:50.57 | JademusSreg | black.dds |
| 18:50.59 | sharf | also, I know you can, cause I've seen it lol |
| 18:51.20 | sharf | dialog control image? you mean make a dialog and just fade that in and out? |
| 18:51.38 | JademusSreg | Dialog control/item. Not dialog. |
| 18:51.51 | JademusSreg | A dialog is a frame containing dialog controls. |
| 18:52.17 | sharf | is dialog control and action? |
| 18:52.19 | sharf | an* |
| 18:52.24 | JademusSreg | Images, buttons, radios, dropdowns, portraits, models, checkboxes, panels, et cetera. |
| 18:52.54 | sharf | ok |
| 18:52.58 | sharf | I think I found what I need though |
| 18:53.04 | sharf | looks like there is a player specific version for it |
| 18:53.41 | Ownage | can someone tell me how to change lurker damage |
| 18:53.57 | Ownage | I can't even figure out how the game knows its damage right now |
| 18:54.09 | JademusSreg | Where's the damage effect? |
| 18:54.37 | JademusSreg | sees "Are Game(r)s Art(ists)?" on gamasutra. Rolls eyes. |
| 18:55.12 | Triceron | I am |
| 18:55.14 | Triceron | :P |
| 18:55.14 | Ownage | ohhh it's an effect not a weapon |
| 18:55.17 | Ownage | thanks I found it now |
| 18:55.30 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 18:57.10 | JademusSreg | Tri, I mean only that arguments of the set "is X art" are near-complete bullshit. |
| 18:57.33 | A1win | <.< I tried to play CraftCraft, got frustrated after 9 minutes :P like "gaaah not this again" |
| 18:57.42 | Bommes | Hmm, reminds me of that SC2Mapster forum thread a couple of weeks ago that was about game design and who on SC2M is planning to do it professionally |
| 18:57.59 | Bommes | "I love having the ability to combine the Liberal Arts with Computer Science." memorable quote from that one :D |
| 18:58.04 | sharf | I used to be a game designer lol |
| 18:58.30 | A1win | and it made me want to make a simple map where you jump instantly into action instead of the map I've been working on ;[ |
| 18:58.35 | sharf | sucked too much to do it professionally |
| 18:58.42 | sharf | so I switched to web dev lol |
| 18:58.57 | Kubi | A FEMALE PROTOSS |
| 18:59.01 | Kubi | OOO MAH GAWD |
| 18:59.09 | *** part/#sc2mapster sharf (~sharf@stu-25-149-171-184.champlain.edu) |
| 18:59.10 | Bommes | depends on where you are working and how willing you are to work harder than other people for less money |
| 18:59.13 | Dustin|Work | Kubi |
| 18:59.16 | Bommes | I think |
| 18:59.22 | Dustin|Work | Uhhh there's been female PRotoss since SC1 |
| 18:59.23 | Bommes | at least that's what I'm told :D got no experience |
| 18:59.33 | Dustin|Work | ALSO SPOILERS |
| 19:01.10 | twodie | so who spent all day watching streams of others playing SC2 hots campaign? |
| 19:02.39 | Triceron | I did yesterday |
| 19:02.52 | Triceron | watched the campaign and the launch day show matches |
| 19:02.58 | Dustin|Work | twodie, that'd be lame cause im going to be playing it myself |
| 19:03.49 | twodie | well have no money and noone didnt throwed their account at my face to use it! |
| 19:04.29 | twodie | so gathered all the joy of what i was able to gather from those pictures and no ready to go to sleep :D |
| 19:04.49 | Triceron | Blizz Allstars is prolly what I'd get HOTS for, if it requires it at all |
| 19:05.12 | Triceron | though they say it's standalone, I still don't know how that works |
| 19:06.24 | JademusSreg | Same tech, different backend, I'd guess. |
| 19:07.02 | Dustin|Work | Triceron, All stars will be it's own Standalone game |
| 19:07.18 | Dustin|Work | Wont reuqire sc2 depends |
| 19:07.23 | Dustin|Work | and will be F2P |
| 19:07.30 | Dustin|Work | With monotization shit |
| 19:07.50 | JademusSreg | Funny Blizzard should be most late to the moooba party. |
| 19:09.19 | Triceron | moba? more like... imba |
| 19:09.24 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:09.34 | Triceron | :P |
| 19:09.41 | JademusSreg | A for deliberately awkward effort. |
| 19:09.52 | JademusSreg | A+ |
| 19:11.22 | Dustin|Work | more liike moobs |
| 19:11.43 | JademusSreg | Good term for moba players. I second the motion. |
| 19:11.51 | Triceron | eww |
| 19:13.29 | twodie | so cant get 14gb free for some kind of optimization of SC2 |
| 19:16.30 | Zolden | JademusSreg: and it worked http://i.snag.gy/Vup5s.jpg |
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| 19:16.59 | JademusSreg | While the particular example is hideous, the proof of concept is splendid. |
| 19:17.02 | twodie | LOL |
| 19:18.00 | Zolden | JademusSreg: may I post this image on forum? I'll credit you as the mastermind |
| 19:18.06 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:18.12 | JademusSreg | That would be lovely. |
| 19:21.17 | Dustin|Work | what |
| 19:21.18 | Dustin|Work | is |
| 19:21.19 | Dustin|Work | that |
| 19:21.40 | JademusSreg | Proof of concept for using models as UI elements. |
| 19:21.58 | JademusSreg | And that model features displacement. |
| 19:22.28 | JademusSreg | Which means you can do some pretty neat things, like glass, warp space, and such. |
| 19:22.50 | twodie | Zolden so whats up with models? |
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| 19:23.41 | Zolden | twodie: the human models aren't ready, but I will resume work on them soo, hope your project can wait |
| 19:23.41 | Zolden | since you watch campaing instead of mapping |
| 19:23.49 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:23.50 | twodie | yeah it really waits for something :D |
| 19:24.03 | Dustin|Work | :O |
| 19:24.13 | twodie | in weekend i was playing the Total War games.. :D |
| 19:24.20 | sharf | has anyone done work with weapon attachments on dts? |
| 19:24.20 | Dustin|Work | If you can use a model as a UI element |
| 19:24.26 | twodie | and doing improvements not in my own maps |
| 19:24.42 | Dustin|Work | Cant you apply the RRT texture on a model and use that as a dialog to get the RRT to work with dialogs? |
| 19:24.52 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 19:25.02 | JademusSreg | In theory, anyway. |
| 19:25.02 | Dustin|Work | :P |
| 19:25.09 | Dustin|Work | :O* |
| 19:25.13 | JademusSreg | It remains to be tested. |
| 19:25.16 | Dustin|Work | Zolden, get on it |
| 19:25.35 | Zolden | Dustin|Work: it wuold be sweet, and it was the first thing I tried to do, but it doesn't work, and I hope to report this to blizz guys and convince them to fix it |
| 19:25.47 | Dustin|Work | I hope they dooo |
| 19:25.54 | Dustin|Work | I could use that feature |
| 19:26.13 | Zolden | yea, it would be so cool, everybody could use it |
| 19:26.37 | JademusSreg | Are video and movie dialog controls still on lockdown? I've not tested yet. |
| 19:27.06 | Zolden | I haven't either since I hear nothing about movie dialogs |
| 19:27.33 | sharf | jademus, best buddy best pal |
| 19:27.39 | JademusSreg | One is old and plays flash video, and other was added in 1.5 and probably plays cutscenes. |
| 19:27.39 | sharf | got another question :x |
| 19:28.01 | sharf | Trying to attach actors to the dt's (the one with the double bladed scythe) weapon |
| 19:28.04 | sharf | one on each blade |
| 19:28.12 | sharf | and in the cutscene editor |
| 19:28.18 | sharf | it labels them as weapon left/right |
| 19:28.24 | sharf | but...doesn't quite work that way |
| 19:28.53 | JademusSreg | I don't use the cutscene editor, so my knowledge here is limited. If it's not where you want them, add a offset siteop to reposition them. |
| 19:29.01 | sharf | the problem is |
| 19:29.50 | sharf | the attachpoint labeled weapon left (which is the blade on the front) actually attaches it to the origin....and weapon right, which is the blade on the back, attaches it to where weapon left is labeled |
| 19:30.00 | sharf | and none of the other weapon attachment points work |
| 19:30.10 | sharf | all point to the origin |
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| 19:31.27 | JademusSreg | I've not used the cutscene editor, so assisting in any detail is outside the scope of my experience. |
| 19:31.40 | sharf | dang |
| 19:31.58 | sharf | I don't get why the points it displays, aren't working though lol |
| 19:32.28 | sharf | if I were to attach them both to the one point, but gave one an offset, would it move properly to line up with the weapon as the unit moves? |
| 19:32.37 | JademusSreg | Perhaps the actor filters out points not matching Weapon 0. |
| 19:33.09 | sharf | weapon 0 puts it on the origin :x |
| 19:33.19 | JademusSreg | Or weapon 1, haha |
| 19:33.29 | sharf | again, origin |
| 19:33.34 | sharf | the only one that doesn't is weapon right |
| 19:33.49 | sharf | which isn't in the spot it's supposed to be either lol |
| 19:34.06 | JademusSreg | And what is the attach query filter for the actor? |
| 19:34.42 | sharf | the host site operations? |
| 19:35.23 | herolief | ASDOUIAHF |
| 19:35.24 | herolief | ASDFOUHASFUIASHFD |
| 19:35.32 | herolief | ESTIMATED DELIVERY: MARCH 14TH |
| 19:35.38 | herolief | FUCK YOU AMAZON. I PLACED MY ORDER MONTHS AGO. |
| 19:35.46 | sharf | this is the actor |
| 19:35.46 | sharf | http://pastebin.com/JnVWDn0a |
| 19:36.18 | JademusSreg | The host site ops. |
| 19:36.24 | Triceron | collectors? |
| 19:36.32 | sharf | it's in the pastebin |
| 19:36.36 | JademusSreg | They attach it to the weapon, right |
| 19:36.40 | sharf | I took out the ones that didn't work |
| 19:36.43 | sharf | well THAT one does |
| 19:36.48 | sharf | any others go to the origin |
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| 19:37.11 | JademusSreg | Well, they can't all work simultaneously. |
| 19:37.21 | JademusSreg | That wouldn't make sense. |
| 19:37.24 | sharf | I made a second one |
| 19:37.28 | sharf | a copy of that |
| 19:37.32 | sharf | to attach to the second point |
| 19:37.37 | sharf | and none of the other points work |
| 19:38.25 | herolief | Triceron, yes. |
| 19:38.26 | herolief | ;_; |
| 19:38.43 | Triceron | that sucks |
| 19:38.52 | JademusSreg | Also, it would make more sense if the unit actor created them, rather than giving them an event. |
| 19:39.15 | Triceron | Raynor dies btw |
| 19:39.15 | sharf | hmm |
| 19:39.22 | sharf | alright I'll try that |
| 19:39.22 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 19:39.34 | sharf | he better not |
| 19:39.43 | Triceron | I'm just teasing |
| 19:39.45 | Triceron | maybe. |
| 19:39.53 | sharf | if he does I'm stabbing yu |
| 19:39.55 | sharf | you* |
| 19:40.14 | Triceron | they'd res him later somehow |
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| 19:40.21 | Triceron | just like tassadar |
| 19:44.47 | Triceron | Infested Raynor |
| 19:44.54 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 19:45.22 | xcorbo | Do you really want the spoiler? |
| 19:46.13 | Kubi | yeah he dies |
| 19:46.30 | twodie | like a dog |
| 19:46.58 | Triceron | he got Ned Stark'd |
| 19:47.42 | Triceron | Hmm... Sean Bean as Raynor for Starcraft movie? |
| 19:47.45 | xcorbo | I dont think he dies |
| 19:48.14 | Triceron | everyone dies, in the end |
| 19:48.22 | xcorbo | Probably |
| 19:48.42 | Triceron | unless he finds some xel naga immortality relic. Hmmm... |
| 19:48.50 | xcorbo | But i dont think what nengsk says he did happens |
| 19:49.01 | xcorbo | I hink they just found his suit really |
| 19:49.11 | Triceron | it was a clone |
| 19:49.16 | xcorbo | And raynors probably partying hard with the protoss |
| 19:49.27 | xcorbo | I have a theory |
| 19:49.39 | xcorbo | That lotv is happening right now |
| 19:50.10 | Triceron | i need to find a 'spoilers only' place for discussion, haha |
| 19:50.34 | xcorbo | Just like wol is inmediately after weeks of wol events. Lotv is happening right now and protoss need raynors help |
| 19:50.45 | Dustin|Work | NO SPOILERS HERE |
| 19:50.57 | Dustin|Work | I havent gotten to play campaign yet, stupid 2am release and work |
| 19:51.43 | Kubi | THEN LEAVE |
| 19:51.46 | Kubi | THIS IS MAP MAKING |
| 19:51.51 | Kubi | BRO |
| 19:51.51 | Kubi | NOT |
| 19:51.56 | Kubi | SPOILER FREE CAMPAGIN PLAY BY PLAYS |
| 19:52.27 | Triceron | So you guys see the SC1 zerg units in HOTS? |
| 19:52.41 | Triceron | some look untextured? |
| 19:52.47 | JademusSreg | I don't mind spoilers. |
| 19:52.54 | Vindicator | ya i only saw one unit untextured |
| 19:52.56 | Dustin|Work | http://imgur.com/KScKrQJ |
| 19:53.23 | Triceron | kinda surprised people haven't datamined more out of HOTS now that it's out, or at least making compilation threads about it |
| 19:53.27 | Dustin|Work | YOU LEAVE KUBI, TITS OR GTFO, |
| 19:54.44 | Kubi | okay |
| 19:54.46 | Kubi | tits it is |
| 19:54.54 | Kubi | youll love my man titties |
| 19:54.57 | xcorbo | Well i usually datamine, you know that |
| 19:55.06 | Triceron | Raynor becomes the new Warchief |
| 19:55.10 | xcorbo | I am just busy playing the campaign :p |
| 19:56.53 | twodie | COOOOLLLLLLLLL |
| 19:57.18 | twodie | at least viewable hots campaign maps minimaps.. data in editor |
| 19:57.52 | twodie | and seems like can load the map anyway :O |
| 19:58.00 | Dustin|Work | hehe |
| 19:58.09 | Triceron | the singleplayer campaign maps? |
| 19:58.17 | twodie | yeah... |
| 19:58.19 | twodie | without hots |
| 19:58.25 | twodie | idk |
| 19:58.30 | Triceron | O_o |
| 19:58.31 | twodie | or it will open........ |
| 19:58.31 | JademusSreg | Does it download the dependency? |
| 19:58.34 | twodie | still loading |
| 19:58.37 | twodie | yeahs |
| 19:58.38 | twodie | yes |
| 19:58.39 | twodie | it does |
| 19:58.49 | twodie | downlaed by default for all i guess |
| 19:58.52 | Triceron | whaaaat |
| 19:58.56 | JademusSreg | Intriguing. |
| 19:58.57 | twodie | earlier before the release |
| 19:59.14 | Kubi | You mean you can make hots maps without hots? |
| 19:59.19 | twodie | so that servers wouldnt be overloaded... and now cant use the mods in editor? |
| 19:59.24 | twodie | not sure |
| 19:59.55 | twodie | it still may require some mpq edit... cause its doesnt appear those dependecies when making new map... |
| 19:59.56 | JademusSreg | Look in the map's XML for the dependency. |
| 20:00.05 | Triceron | where do you access the campaign without hots? |
| 20:00.21 | JademusSreg | I want to test if it can be added to a map. |
| 20:01.24 | twodie | loads hots maps without those dependecies Units, models other stuff |
| 20:01.33 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 20:01.34 | twodie | so its bugged all the way |
| 20:01.45 | JademusSreg | Unfortunate. |
| 20:03.55 | Kubi | How do you add kerrigans healthbar onto other units |
| 20:04.15 | twodie | data |
| 20:04.20 | twodie | unit actor |
| 20:04.30 | twodie | and there should be field with UI stuff |
| 20:04.35 | twodie | for unit actor |
| 20:04.52 | Kubi | cant seem to find thats where I am looking |
| 20:05.05 | Kubi | foudn it |
| 20:05.07 | Kubi | HotS_UnitStatus/HeroUnitStatusFrameTemplate |
| 20:08.27 | twodie | So it looks like this: http://snag.gy/IaZqL.jpg |
| 20:08.43 | twodie | now loading Zerus campaign map... |
| 20:09.25 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 20:11.53 | Triceron | I really like some of Kerrigan's abilities |
| 20:12.16 | Triceron | they did a good job on that I think |
| 20:12.49 | Triceron | though it reminded me of Diablo 3 lite |
| 20:13.35 | Ahli | sooooo, anyone found a secret mission? |
| 20:13.58 | Triceron | don't think there is one |
| 20:13.58 | Kubi | your mom |
| 20:14.00 | Kubi | L<OLOLO |
| 20:14.33 | Triceron | maybe there is |
| 20:15.33 | Ahli | I didn't see many eastereggs :S |
| 20:16.04 | xcorbo | Ahli |
| 20:16.05 | Ahli | marine complaining about car... strange crystals with a civilian and 2 dogs (failed to understand) |
| 20:16.15 | xcorbo | Are you done with the campaign? |
| 20:16.19 | Ahli | yes |
| 20:16.21 | Ahli | just finished it |
| 20:16.24 | Ahli | on brutal |
| 20:16.28 | xcorbo | D: |
| 20:16.30 | Dustin|Work | JErk! |
| 20:16.33 | Dustin|Work | How long did it take |
| 20:16.47 | Ahli | uhm... let me think :D |
| 20:16.50 | xcorbo | And i stopped yesterday after char missions lol |
| 20:17.00 | Dustin|Work | I havent gotten to play it yet :( |
| 20:17.17 | Ahli | 15 hours I believe |
| 20:17.17 | Dustin|Work | I booted up the game this morning to make sure It loaded everything, |
| 20:17.25 | Dustin|Work | Not to bad |
| 20:17.35 | Ahli | 15-16 I think |
| 20:17.50 | Dustin|Work | So you've been playing since launch :P |
| 20:18.34 | Ahli | well, I slept like 4 hours, too... actually 3 because at 8am the trash was picked up and that's happening like 2m distance from my head |
| 20:18.49 | Dustin|Work | ah lol |
| 20:19.04 | Ahli | and started pretty late and had to take time to install new gfx card :D |
| 20:19.18 | Dustin|Work | Oh what did you end up getting? |
| 20:19.37 | Ahli | hd 7870 from asus |
| 20:19.42 | Ahli | barely fitting in my case |
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| 20:19.47 | Dustin|Work | nice |
| 20:19.48 | Bounty4321 | :) |
| 20:19.59 | Dustin|Work | Bounty, you noob, what's up |
| 20:20.08 | Ahli | thank god that the ending wasn't the leaked ending |
| 20:20.09 | Bounty4321 | nuffin, just got home |
| 20:20.49 | Dustin|Work | Dont talk about the ending! :(! |
| 20:20.54 | Dustin|Work | :P |
| 20:21.06 | Dustin|Work | I need some goggles |
| 20:21.20 | twodie | and here goes Zerus mission in editor http://snag.gy/8o4k2.jpg |
| 20:21.21 | Bounty4321 | guess im the only one not buying HoTS lol |
| 20:21.30 | Dustin|Work | I got it fo free |
| 20:21.33 | Dustin|Work | So fuck it lol |
| 20:21.36 | Bounty4321 | how? |
| 20:21.53 | Ahli | physical treatment to other male? |
| 20:22.43 | Bounty4321 | $40 is to much just to use the assets in ur map |
| 20:22.44 | Bounty4321 | imo |
| 20:22.51 | Bounty4321 | bc thats the only thing i would use it for lol |
| 20:23.12 | Bommes | did you watch the launch show bounty? |
| 20:23.17 | Bounty4321 | nope |
| 20:23.25 | Bommes | they almost mentioned you on the 40k viewer stream |
| 20:23.33 | Bommes | but he couldn't remember your name :D |
| 20:23.36 | Bommes | they mentioned your maps though |
| 20:23.44 | Bounty4321 | what? where? when? lol |
| 20:24.01 | Bommes | on the day9+team liquid event, they showed all sorts of stuff |
| 20:24.10 | Bommes | custom mapping things were among it |
| 20:24.20 | Bommes | this show with tempo, machine etc |
| 20:24.49 | Bounty4321 | watching the vod |
| 20:24.52 | Bounty4321 | gonna try to find it lol |
| 20:25.09 | JademusSreg | I finished the first draft of the loading screen, working on a second to refine the text content. And there's this: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/Captain%20Zealotron.jpg |
| 20:25.14 | Bommes | should be about 4-5 hours in i think |
| 20:25.39 | Bounty4321 | on part 2? |
| 20:25.41 | Bounty4321 | or part 1? |
| 20:25.45 | Bommes | no idea |
| 20:25.53 | Bommes | hmm let me think |
| 20:26.00 | Bommes | they korean thing started 11 am I think |
| 20:26.20 | Bommes | and the part I'm talking about was at around 15:30-16:30 I think |
| 20:26.27 | Bommes | could be +/- one or two hours |
| 20:26.30 | Bounty4321 | wait so which vod is it |
| 20:26.31 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 20:26.36 | Bommes | how long are the vods? |
| 20:26.37 | Bommes | thats the question |
| 20:26.39 | Bounty4321 | i thought u said the day9 team liquid one |
| 20:26.44 | Bommes | yeah |
| 20:26.50 | Triceron | That's why you gotta name your maps "BountyPresents___" |
| 20:26.52 | Bommes | it was korean one until 14 oclock |
| 20:26.59 | Bommes | then day9 team liquid |
| 20:27.05 | Bommes | until 19:00 i think |
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| 20:27.41 | Bommes | but all on the same stream, so you have to look into the vod that is about 4-5 hours into the stream |
| 20:28.06 | sharf | what is it that makes the two different dark templars in-game? |
| 20:28.41 | Ahli | model variation |
| 20:28.54 | sharf | under model or actor? |
| 20:29.29 | Bommes | model, variation count |
| 20:29.33 | Bommes | I don't know if you have to change other things |
| 20:29.36 | Bommes | never done it manually |
| 20:30.24 | Bommes | so I'm probably not the right person to give you advice about it :D |
| 20:30.35 | sharf | so... |
| 20:30.52 | sharf | where does it get the other models from? |
| 20:30.57 | Kubi | What are the Ice world natives called |
| 20:31.56 | Bommes | they are in the assets, if you look into the Art: Model files |
| 20:32.05 | Bommes | you will see there is a model that is named DarkTemplar_00.m3 |
| 20:32.10 | Bommes | one that is DarkTemplar_01.m3 |
| 20:32.24 | Bommes | to use both of them you use the DarkTemplar.m3 and set the Variation Count to 2 I think |
| 20:32.40 | sharf | ah ok |
| 20:32.42 | Bommes | I'm not sure if you have to change something else though because I've never done it and tested it |
| 20:32.51 | Bommes | so you probably want to ask someone else about that |
| 20:33.39 | sharf | lol |
| 20:33.43 | sharf | I want to turn it off |
| 20:34.20 | Triceron | set it to 1 and point the model straight to 00 or 01, whichever one you want to be using |
| 20:34.36 | Bommes | yeah thats fine then, that I've done before :) |
| 20:34.39 | Bommes | as Triceron says |
| 20:34.58 | sharf | yeah, I got it |
| 20:35.21 | sharf | ugh crap that didn't work |
| 20:36.39 | sharf | want to attach actors to both blades on the scythe dt |
| 20:36.54 | sharf | thought maybe the variation was throwing the attach points off |
| 20:37.10 | Bounty4321 | cant find it bommes |
| 20:37.11 | Bounty4321 | :( |
| 20:37.22 | Bommes | can you link the vod archives here? |
| 20:37.26 | Bommes | then I'll try to find it quickly |
| 20:37.28 | Bounty4321 | http://www.twitch.tv/starcraft/c/2015041 |
| 20:37.34 | Bounty4321 | thats the one im browsing now |
| 20:37.47 | Ahli | time to look at models in hots |
| 20:38.06 | twodie | its so had to do that in Wol :( |
| 20:40.57 | Bounty4321 | who exactly mentioned me bommes |
| 20:41.02 | Bounty4321 | was it Day9 or husky? |
| 20:41.08 | Bommes | I think it was in the Chanman show |
| 20:41.17 | Bommes | sec |
| 20:41.25 | Bommes | I pretty much have the spot |
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| 20:41.44 | Bommes | 2:58:00 |
| 20:41.47 | Bommes | around there |
| 20:41.59 | Bommes | which is a little awkward |
| 20:42.02 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 20:42.05 | Bommes | because they actually play mass destruction |
| 20:42.10 | Bommes | :O |
| 20:42.18 | Bounty4321 | what does that have to do with me |
| 20:42.28 | Bounty4321 | they dont think i made that to do they? |
| 20:42.28 | Bommes | didn't realize that while I was watching it :D but they talk about gnolls&trolls and ling ling rocket |
| 20:42.34 | Bommes | they think it's also from you |
| 20:42.42 | Dustin|Work | lol |
| 20:42.44 | Bommes | they were a little confused I guess |
| 20:42.48 | Bounty4321 | mass destruction? |
| 20:42.56 | Dustin|Work | Bounty, gets credit for maps he didnt even make. |
| 20:42.58 | Bommes | that tank map |
| 20:43.05 | Bounty4321 | makes sense |
| 20:43.06 | Bounty4321 | it looks like a map i would make |
| 20:43.10 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 20:43.21 | Bommes | yeah it kinda does :D |
| 20:43.21 | Bounty4321 | but yeah ive tried to get in contact with them like 10 times but they ignore me |
| 20:43.25 | Bounty4321 | so w/e |
| 20:43.26 | Bommes | I always forget the name of the creator |
| 20:43.26 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 20:43.37 | Dustin|Work | Husky review my Top Down Fighters map back in beta lol |
| 20:43.52 | Dustin|Work | That's about all the caster love I've gotten |
| 20:44.22 | Kubi | who made mass destruction |
| 20:44.27 | Bounty4321 | I've gotten zero |
| 20:44.28 | Bommes | xsourcexx |
| 20:44.41 | Bounty4321 | They say they like me so much but i try to get in contact with them and i get zero response |
| 20:44.43 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 20:44.55 | Bommes | that guy who is working on jetcraft right now |
| 20:44.55 | Bommes | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fCm8mphgCKE&list=UUaBoLyi6_QlRqZ58R2qtX5w&index=4 |
| 20:44.59 | Bommes | which looks pretty insane |
| 20:45.11 | Bommes | where are you trying to get in contact? |
| 20:45.36 | Bounty4321 | on youtube |
| 20:45.39 | Bounty4321 | in his chat |
| 20:45.40 | Bounty4321 | and during his stream |
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| 20:46.04 | Bommes | mhkay, sucks |
| 20:46.08 | Bommes | dunno |
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| 20:50.19 | Kubi | Bommes it is insane, however will it be fun? |
| 20:50.43 | Bommes | who knows :D |
| 20:50.50 | Bommes | but insane is always good |
| 20:51.09 | Kubi | sometimes |
| 20:51.16 | Kubi | The masses on battle.net doesn't like complex |
| 20:52.45 | Vail | well fuck me ... |
| 20:52.47 | Triceron | well it's the type of crowd SC2 draws in too, they like their quick pvp/competitive games |
| 20:53.03 | Vail | starcraft 2 heart of the swarm will not install |
| 20:53.32 | Vail | wait there it goes it buged |
| 20:53.37 | Vail | budged* |
| 20:54.45 | Triceron | wow jetcraft looks awesome |
| 20:54.59 | Triceron | the platforming mechanics looked pretty solid |
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| 20:59.18 | A1win | < Triceron> well it's the type of crowd SC2 draws in too, they like their quick pvp/competitive games <- which is why I'm considering of making a pvp map instead of continuing my co-op map, difficult to sell a hamburger in a pizzeria |
| 20:59.39 | A1win | -of |
| 20:59.56 | Triceron | yeah |
| 21:00.03 | Triceron | it's changed my plans a lot as well |
| 21:01.15 | Vail | any one know how long it took for their HotS to install? |
| 21:01.28 | Triceron | do you have wol installed? |
| 21:01.32 | Vail | yes |
| 21:01.54 | Bommes | Have you started WoL? |
| 21:02.06 | Triceron | I'd been hearing reccomendations on ridding WoL and reinstalling it as a whole, smaller filesize - though I don't know if that's really true or not |
| 21:02.09 | Bommes | If the launcher doesn't show any downloads or updates |
| 21:02.18 | Bommes | you already have all the HotS data |
| 21:02.24 | Bommes | and as soon as you purchase is you can play |
| 21:02.32 | Bommes | *it |
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| 21:02.39 | Vail | i have a cd and its already been over half an hour of install time to onlu reack 8% |
| 21:02.59 | Vail | rather 7.8% |
| 21:03.02 | Bommes | hm :/ no idea sry |
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| 21:03.47 | JademusSreg | See the second draft of Captain Zealotron, Bounty? |
| 21:06.07 | A1win | I can't think in a pvp mindset ;_; |
| 21:06.14 | xcorbo | What the fuck |
| 21:06.15 | Bounty4321 | no i did not JademusSreg |
| 21:06.19 | Bounty4321 | lets see it |
| 21:06.21 | A1win | everything is always co-op in my design :X |
| 21:06.22 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/Captain%20Zealotron.jpg |
| 21:06.24 | xcorbo | Facebook app consumes way too much data |
| 21:06.29 | JademusSreg | A1, do you play PvP? |
| 21:06.33 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 21:06.34 | xcorbo | Geez |
| 21:06.37 | Bounty4321 | so derpy |
| 21:06.39 | Bounty4321 | love it |
| 21:06.44 | JademusSreg | Yesss. |
| 21:06.52 | A1win | well, I've played a lot in the past, but not much recently |
| 21:07.20 | JademusSreg | Seems some PvP is in order. |
| 21:08.03 | A1win | board games are perfectly fine as PvP for me, not sure why it's different from compuer games D: |
| 21:08.53 | Triceron | real time vs turn based? |
| 21:09.02 | Bounty4321 | oh and JademusSreg |
| 21:09.09 | JademusSreg | Working on some drafts of the text, aiming for informative and humorous. The first draft had some amusing points, but was too much of a chore to read, because it was like Fallout-Intelligence-of-3 vocabulary. |
| 21:09.10 | Bounty4321 | Photon Synergy is now fully optimized for performance :) |
| 21:09.15 | Bounty4321 | no more leaks |
| 21:09.16 | JademusSreg | Coo. |
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| 21:09.33 | A1win | mm I guess being turn based removes the stress element from it |
| 21:09.59 | Bounty4321 | not sure when i should release it :( |
| 21:10.01 | Triceron | was about to say. I play a lot of War3, but can't stand SC2. Too frantic, too much to manage |
| 21:10.08 | Bounty4321 | i have 5 modes and 2 maps |
| 21:10.16 | Bounty4321 | plus the unlockables |
| 21:10.20 | JademusSreg | I'd really like to see someone make an image macro of the derpy protoss with, say, "Build additional pylons" or such. |
| 21:11.09 | JademusSreg | Playing Warcraft 3 was like wading in molasses. |
| 21:11.27 | Triceron | it was practically turn based |
| 21:11.31 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 21:14.03 | A1win | so... if I played a pvp game, what would I want it to be like... mmmmh |
| 21:14.08 | twodie | is there a way to use any other Fonts in game? |
| 21:14.12 | Triceron | barcraft |
| 21:14.13 | Triceron | haha |
| 21:14.24 | JademusSreg | Maybe? |
| 21:14.24 | Bounty4321 | Photon Synergy |
| 21:14.36 | evily | Hi, was wondering how to get my map featured on Battle.net |
| 21:14.50 | JademusSreg | Make it exceptionally good. |
| 21:14.51 | Triceron | make it awesome |
| 21:15.02 | Zolden | put boobs on loadingscreen |
| 21:15.08 | evily | Do i contact someone? |
| 21:15.14 | twodie | No |
| 21:15.17 | twodie | they contact you |
| 21:15.27 | evily | Ok then my map will never be featured |
| 21:15.31 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 21:15.35 | JademusSreg | Glad we settled that. |
| 21:16.25 | twodie | ^^ |
| 21:17.33 | JademusSreg | I feel there may be too many malapropisms in this introduction. |
| 21:17.44 | JademusSreg | "I am Captain Zealotron, a fearless warrior of unpresented skill. Celibate and rejoice, for in my limitless monogamy, I shall assist your frail Terran mind reprehend these basic, impedimentary principles in this game of viscous combat, PHOTON SYNERGY" |
| 21:18.18 | evily | simple is good |
| 21:18.23 | JademusSreg | I mean, some people might not even notice they are malapropisms. |
| 21:18.59 | twodie | i dont even care! |
| 21:19.02 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 21:19.37 | Bounty4321 | You should play the pve/pvp mode of PS tonight Jade |
| 21:19.44 | Bounty4321 | take on Bounty the Ethereal |
| 21:19.45 | Bounty4321 | lol |
| 21:19.45 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 21:21.59 | Bounty4321 | Fans of bullet hell games will love it especially lol |
| 21:22.23 | JademusSreg | More like bullet heaven, amirite? |
| 21:24.54 | progammer | hmm hots soundtrack - conscience is ripped from wol |
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| 21:26.41 | progammer | btw anyone know how to open .lvl0 texture files or what they are for ? |
| 21:27.09 | JademusSreg | Aren't those the painted terrain texture files? |
| 21:27.56 | JademusSreg | Mexa coded something to render their images, as I recall. |
| 21:29.27 | A1win | a football game where the ball is 5 meters tall and made of metal, and you need to move it by setting explosive charges next to it |
| 21:29.35 | A1win | that's the best I can come up with :< |
| 21:32.14 | JademusSreg | Whenever I get in a design slump, I binge on games. |
| 21:32.19 | progammer | funny there's a track named corruptor and there's not a single corruptor in the campaign |
| 21:32.39 | JademusSreg | Haha, in before cut. |
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| 21:36.54 | A1win | hmm, maybe I should think of something to do with squad combat on a space ship, I still want to do that terrain ;p |
| 21:39.15 | A1win | hmm what about zerg team infiltrating a space ship/station defended by terran team o: |
| 21:39.31 | JademusSreg | Sounds more fun than the reverse. |
| 21:39.35 | A1win | haha |
| 21:43.57 | A1win | zerg team merely controls where the swarm enters the ship, and terran team needs to actually more around it to defend :o |
| 21:44.05 | A1win | err |
| 21:44.07 | A1win | *move |
| 21:44.27 | Triceron | sounds like natural selection |
| 21:44.36 | Triceron | or space hulk |
| 21:44.45 | A1win | NS is an RTS though :P |
| 21:44.47 | JademusSreg | No wai, you can do better than that for the zerg. Show some love. Zerg are adaptable, they can mutate to solve their problems. |
| 21:44.55 | JademusSreg | *FPS |
| 21:45.35 | A1win | it's also an RTS ;p and that's the only part of it worth pointing out |
| 21:45.41 | A1win | because this wouldn't be an RTS |
| 21:45.43 | JademusSreg | HAha. |
| 21:46.05 | JademusSreg | Spaaace Huuulk. |
| 21:46.13 | A1win | what's that x_x |
| 21:46.29 | Triceron | WHAAAT?! |
| 21:46.32 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 21:48.12 | A1win | I see |
| 21:49.43 | Triceron | don't make me teach you how to use google. |
| 21:50.28 | JademusSreg | Step 1: enter text into google and press enter. |
| 21:50.45 | A1win | I was merely expressing that I don't know what it is :P |
| 21:51.08 | A1win | and then said "I see" when I had found out |
| 21:51.26 | JademusSreg | All in good natured jest. |
| 21:52.02 | xcorbo | Space hulk sounds awesome |
| 21:52.21 | xcorbo | But it does not fix my facebook issue |
| 21:52.34 | Triceron | whaaat new space hulk game 2013 |
| 21:52.45 | JademusSreg | Step 1: Delete facebook account. |
| 21:52.48 | Triceron | pc mac ios |
| 21:52.55 | JademusSreg | Yes, Tri. Glorious. |
| 21:55.23 | A1win | so hmm... different kinds of rooms in the space station that control stuff within the station, zerg can destroy them to make bad stuff happen for terrans, and terrans can access some rooms to make nasty stuff happen for the zerg |
| 21:56.21 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 22:01.22 | A1win | zerg favors surround in combat and terran tries to fight in choke points |
| 22:01.44 | A1win | so there would be kind of a stealth aspect for the zerg to try to flank the terran |
| 22:03.37 | Triceron | maybe vents that only zerg can access |
| 22:03.56 | A1win | I wonder how those would work technically |
| 22:04.13 | A1win | cliff jumping mover? |
| 22:05.30 | A1win | floor at cliff level 1, vents at 2, and walls 3 |
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| 22:05.55 | A1win | could work I suppose |
| 22:06.21 | A1win | or just narrower space than what fits the terran units |
| 22:06.36 | A1win | but those would be at floor level so it might not look that neat |
| 22:06.57 | Triceron | can you use pathing blockers |
| 22:07.17 | Triceron | block player or unit type, something like that |
| 22:07.28 | A1win | nah, they either block pathing or don't block it |
| 22:07.44 | A1win | well, collisions would work, but then pathfinding would try to move the terrans through the vents too |
| 22:07.55 | Triceron | cliff jumping would be interesting |
| 22:08.00 | Triceron | it'd look cool too |
| 22:08.04 | A1win | mm |
| 22:08.41 | A1win | there's the cliff jumper ling in the hots campaign, though not sure if it'd be worth using hots assets, considering that not everyone will have it |
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| 22:09.01 | Triceron | you could use pathing blocker + teleporter for alien players maybe |
| 22:09.14 | A1win | mm but then pathfinding would suck for them |
| 22:09.28 | A1win | they'd have to order to move targeting the vent, instead of into the vent |
| 22:09.36 | A1win | I mean targeting the entrance |
| 22:09.50 | Triceron | i feel that's what would happen with narrow corriders too |
| 22:10.06 | A1win | maybe |
| 22:10.25 | A1win | cliff jumping sounds good though |
| 22:11.22 | A1win | I wonder what the goal for the terrans would be :x |
| 22:11.56 | Triceron | its usually objective based |
| 22:12.03 | Triceron | beyyond 'survive' |
| 22:13.04 | A1win | I kind of like the idea that the zerg players would have a lot more units each than the terran players, not just 1 per player |
| 22:13.14 | A1win | even the terrans could have a small squad for each player |
| 22:13.15 | Triceron | either to exterminate an infestation, or find and retrieve some object, or reach a station to reactivate something |
| 22:13.36 | A1win | so the zerg could just "keep coming" throughout the game, even if they kill them |
| 22:13.54 | Triceron | you could have one changeling player for the zerg :D |
| 22:14.29 | A1win | hah, a communications room which allows you to see other players, and if it's destroyed, you can only see your own squad |
| 22:15.00 | A1win | a changeling would work then |
| 22:15.07 | Triceron | hell you could have terran vs terran, multiple factions aiming for the same goal! |
| 22:15.09 | Triceron | total pvp |
| 22:15.14 | A1win | :x |
| 22:15.17 | A1win | hmm |
| 22:15.42 | Triceron | you could ally with the enemy, or go solo. Dark Deeds! |
| 22:15.52 | A1win | "reach the escape pods... oh and there's only enough for one player" |
| 22:16.01 | Triceron | :D |
| 22:16.28 | xcorbo | Dammit time |
| 22:16.33 | xcorbo | Why dont you go faster |
| 22:17.36 | Zolden | xcorbo: smoke weed, it fastens time |
| 22:18.06 | xcorbo | Cant really smoke weed at work |
| 22:18.15 | Triceron | sleep |
| 22:18.26 | Zolden | no hots playing and not smoking weed? do you like this work? |
| 22:18.32 | A1win | one game mode where you're just waiting for warp drive to charge up while lots and lots of zerg keep coming |
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| 22:19.15 | A1win | or maybe I should just focus on one game mode at first ;x |
| 22:19.39 | A1win | though would be neat if it only needed one that had all the interesting aspects in it |
| 22:20.17 | progammer | wierd, there's 2 files cinematic_swarm05.ogv and cinematic_swarm06.ogv all have the same cinematics |
| 22:20.40 | sharf | anyone good with attachments? lol |
| 22:21.16 | Zolden | I invented an existencial sc2 arcade game: black screen, no UI elements, nothing to do, never ends, it's name will be "A nonesistance where the miracle of creation never happend and never will" |
| 22:21.26 | A1win | progammer, some cinematics have duplicates because kerrigan is in them in different appearance based on the order you traveled, or at least some sound files are |
| 22:22.05 | A1win | Zolden, how do you know it's black then D: |
| 22:22.25 | progammer | sounds file are handled in the locals, default soundfile is always english |
| 22:22.31 | progammer | ill check the dialouge again, thanks |
| 22:22.40 | A1win | I mean |
| 22:22.51 | xcorbo | I love my job |
| 22:22.53 | A1win | there's 3 different voice modifications for kerrigan's voice |
| 22:22.56 | xcorbo | I am my own boss |
| 22:22.59 | xcorbo | But still |
| 22:23.07 | A1win | where she's ghost, where she's zerg, and where she's more evolved zerg |
| 22:23.16 | xcorbo | What message would it give to my workers if i just smoke weed |
| 22:23.21 | xcorbo | And play at my offoce |
| 22:23.29 | A1win | same subtitles, but it sounds different (using different sound files) |
| 22:23.51 | xcorbo | I am of the idea that the boss should be the one that works the hardest not slacks the most |
| 22:24.05 | progammer | Aiwin got it |
| 22:24.18 | progammer | that same cinemactic is played with different kerrigan |
| 22:24.31 | progammer | depends on whether she become primal or not before that |
| 22:25.08 | xcorbo | Also zolden |
| 22:25.18 | xcorbo | You should name it nihilism, the game |
| 22:25.18 | A1win | anyways, sleep time |
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| 22:26.42 | Zolden | it's not nihilistic, because existance and nonexistance are not contradictive substabnces, they compliment each other |
| 22:27.51 | Taintedwisp | Freakin Achievement servers -_- |
| 22:27.54 | sharf | ok fuck |
| 22:28.04 | sharf | how do I bring up the edit menu in the cutscene editor |
| 22:28.31 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: go win all achievements for me |
| 22:31.21 | progammer | time to beat the campaign another time on US server :P |
| 22:31.56 | Zolden | i hardly beat 3rd mission |
| 22:33.17 | progammer | ugh nvm achivement is disabled :( |
| 22:33.56 | progammer | back to datamining |
| 22:34.40 | Kubi | What does the hero panel pull the level indicator from? |
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| 22:39.15 | Kubi | anyone? |
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| 22:48.24 | nooblark | hots is bullshit |
| 22:48.27 | nooblark | so is WOL |
| 22:48.32 | nooblark | fuck blizzard |
| 22:48.49 | nooblark | i used to be able to plat this shit on ultra, it still suggests i leave it on it |
| 22:49.11 | nooblark | i can't even play wol on ultra anymore because of their shitty optimizations, let alone hots. |
| 22:50.46 | nooblark | anyone else having problems with acievments constantly going offline? |
| 22:52.18 | Ahli | that was on EU, too... was offline for a few hours |
| 22:52.20 | Dustin | wtf is this cusor splat shit when I press Attack now |
| 22:52.25 | Ahli | now it's offline on NA |
| 22:52.41 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/8197180684#15 |
| 22:53.00 | Dustin | Ugh I want to turn this crap off |
| 22:56.01 | Bounty4321 | Test? Dustin and JademusSreg |
| 22:56.46 | Zolden | a wiseman said "tell me what do you think about achievements and i'll tell you how noob you are" |
| 22:58.30 | Dustin | playing campaign bounty |
| 22:59.56 | xcorbo | Achievements are great |
| 23:00.03 | xcorbo | WHAT NOW |
| 23:00.34 | xcorbo | say something against achievements and i ban you GO AHEAD |
| 23:00.40 | Dustin | Lmfao |
| 23:00.57 | Dustin | I get home to play and of course something has to be fucked up with it |
| 23:01.10 | xcorbo | Of course! |
| 23:06.33 | Zolden | Dustin, you do weed b4 playincg campaign, right? |
| 23:07.08 | sharf | does anyone know how to add attachment points to a model? |
| 23:07.25 | Zolden | sharf: in 3d max |
| 23:07.40 | sharf | ugh |
| 23:08.11 | sharf | any free programs? lol |
| 23:08.25 | Zolden | you can also create a sight for an actor and make it follow the actor, and use this sight as an attachment point |
| 23:08.39 | Zolden | max is free if u pirate it |
| 23:08.40 | sharf | how do you do that? |
| 23:08.44 | Zolden | but there is alos blender |
| 23:08.44 | sharf | lol.... |
| 23:09.05 | Zolden | sight -> site |
| 23:09.34 | sharf | lol where is sight? |
| 23:09.44 | Zolden | site is an actor |
| 23:09.57 | Zolden | I think you need move site |
| 23:10.32 | Zolden | learn how colossus attack work, there are a bunch of actors |
| 23:10.45 | sharf | site (attachment)? |
| 23:10.46 | Zolden | it may help, but i don't guarantee it |
| 23:11.02 | Zolden | i guess |
| 23:11.14 | Zolden | but you need to use proper events to make it work |
| 23:11.43 | sharf | just want the dt's scythe to have 2 attach points lol |
| 23:11.44 | sharf | ffs |
| 23:12.29 | Zolden | models without attachemnts is a bulshit, why are they even exist, what on earth stopped the modeller when he esided whether or not should he add an attachment |
| 23:12.51 | Zolden | dt has attachment points |
| 23:12.55 | sharf | right |
| 23:12.59 | sharf | but only 1 on the weapon |
| 23:13.02 | sharf | on he front of the scythe |
| 23:13.05 | sharf | not on the back of it |
| 23:13.33 | sharf | can I attach something with an offset |
| 23:13.36 | Zolden | use the atttachment it has and local offset actor |
| 23:13.39 | Zolden | that's what you need |
| 23:13.47 | sharf | local offset actor? |
| 23:13.54 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:14.03 | sharf | is that a seperate actor? |
| 23:14.55 | Zolden | when you attach a bullshit to the scythe attachment, use 2 site operations: attach to attachment x and local offset |
| 23:15.15 | Zolden | yea, it's a separate actor, you need to create it and define the offset |
| 23:15.45 | sharf | hmm |
| 23:16.01 | sharf | I'm not seeing that kind of actor |
| 23:16.35 | Zolden | site operation (local offset) |
| 23:16.39 | Zolden | its type |
| 23:16.58 | sharf | ah gotcha thanks |
| 23:19.36 | xcorbo | I jist had a great idea for an easy, fun map i could make |
| 23:19.45 | Dustin | I hate this attack cursor splat |
| 23:20.11 | xcorbo | It involves slaughtering animals and selling their pieces to a collector |
| 23:21.17 | Zolden | xcorbo: peta will ban it |
| 23:21.33 | Zolden | peta will sue blizz, they'll have to ban it |
| 23:21.41 | xcorbo | I am clever |
| 23:21.51 | xcorbo | Peta wont be able to sue us |
| 23:22.02 | xcorbo | Becuase they will not really be animals |
| 23:22.23 | xcorbo | They will be animaIs |
| 23:22.32 | xcorbo | Get it? Capital i |
| 23:22.43 | Zolden | yea, clever |
| 23:22.46 | xcorbo | And instead of things like dogs |
| 23:22.51 | xcorbo | I will have hogs |
| 23:22.59 | xcorbo | Or caps |
| 23:23.03 | Zolden | use fags instead dogs |
| 23:23.07 | xcorbo | And fions |
| 23:23.11 | xcorbo | Lol |
| 23:23.25 | xcorbo | I like you |
| 23:23.39 | xcorbo | Targetting two niches orlf map players |
| 23:23.50 | xcorbo | Animal lovers and... lovers |
| 23:23.53 | xcorbo | :P |
| 23:23.56 | Zolden | :) |
| 23:25.54 | progammer | lol there's an article about peta and hots |
| 23:25.58 | progammer | cant remember what it was |
| 23:27.18 | progammer | so, the trigger always refer to kerrigan as "the one", what do i intepret ? |
| 23:28.24 | Sixen | programmer: peta was handing stuff out at the irvine launch for a parody they're doing |
| 23:28.36 | xcorbo | Ohey its sixen |
| 23:28.53 | xcorbo | Please ignore my threat to ban Zolden k |
| 23:29.50 | progammer | hi Sixen :) |
| 23:29.54 | Sixen | ^^ |
| 23:30.35 | Zolden | what? you treatened to ban me? I'll mind control a duck and order it to attack you! |
| 23:31.15 | xcorbo | I fear no duck! |
| 23:31.42 | sharf | omfg this offset thing is annoying |
| 23:31.59 | Torhal | Sixen: You can haz Wiki? |
| 23:32.07 | xcorbo | Wut |
| 23:33.07 | Sixen | indeed torhal :) |
| 23:33.16 | Torhal | :D |
| 23:35.26 | progammer | achievement service still down, gotta go back to super hexagon :( |
| 23:37.33 | sharf | ok so |
| 23:37.37 | sharf | I have a fire model |
| 23:38.00 | sharf | can I change the direction the flames are moving in? |
| 23:38.36 | xcorbo | Hmm depends |
| 23:38.45 | xcorbo | But probably not |
| 23:39.33 | sharf | ? |
| 23:40.18 | sharf | could swear I've seen it changed |
| 23:40.18 | sharf | maybe |
| 23:40.21 | sharf | rotate the model? |
| 23:40.32 | Sixen | wtf does battle.ent keep dropping |
| 23:40.32 | Zolden | sharf: there are rotating actors |
| 23:40.33 | Sixen | so fuckign annoying |
| 23:40.40 | Bounty4321 | Hay Sixen |
| 23:40.44 | Bounty4321 | You see my new game? :) |
| 23:40.48 | Sixen | no |
| 23:40.58 | Zolden | bnet is filled with ppl |
| 23:41.05 | Bounty4321 | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ranO-cPvGi4 |
| 23:41.05 | Zolden | overfilled |
| 23:41.23 | Zolden | i never saw so many online buddies |
| 23:41.29 | progammer | i got through the campaign smoothly last night on SEA |
| 23:42.07 | sharf | rotate gave me an error.... |
| 23:42.28 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
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| 23:43.08 | sharf | hmm |
| 23:43.19 | Zolden | sharf: u need to use site operation (explicit rotation) |
| 23:43.27 | sharf | explicite? ok |
| 23:43.35 | Zolden | it will let you rotate the model relatively to the attachment |
| 23:43.42 | sharf | was using rotater |
| 23:44.46 | Zolden | u need to define up and forward vectors |
| 23:45.12 | Zolden | it may be tricky, but there was a thread on forum where it was clearly explained |
| 23:48.23 | Taintedwisp | Sixen |
| 23:48.27 | Taintedwisp | Blizzard fucked up again\ |
| 23:48.28 | Taintedwisp | "{ |
| 23:48.46 | sharf | tainted |
| 23:48.49 | Taintedwisp | Achievemetns, XP, and Part of the campaign(kerrigans XP gain) are disabled until further notice |
| 23:48.55 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 23:48.58 | Taintedwisp | what you need sharf? |
| 23:49.01 | sharf | lol |
| 23:49.12 | sharf | the flame on king zok...what ever |
| 23:49.26 | sharf | how did you make it point down? rotate actor? |
| 23:50.10 | nooblark | achievments, NA, fixed yet? |
| 23:50.29 | Sixen | don't think so, no |
| 23:50.54 | nooblark | you'd think after having so many top selling games, they'd figure out how to launch sucessfully by now |
| 23:53.44 | Taintedwisp | Sixen I was being serious :( |
| 23:54.06 | sharf | ugh |
| 23:54.12 | sharf | rotating this bs |
| 23:54.15 | sharf | is such a pain |
| 23:54.17 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:54.20 | Taintedwisp | I didnt rotate it |
| 23:54.29 | sharf | then how did you get it to flame down? |
| 23:54.32 | sharf | just worked? |
| 23:54.33 | Taintedwisp | Weapons are auto rotated |
| 23:54.34 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:54.43 | sharf | not in this case |
| 23:54.44 | Taintedwisp | They rotate to however the model is ratated |
| 23:54.48 | sharf | right |
| 23:54.54 | sharf | but like |
| 23:55.03 | sharf | I want the flame flowing down the blade |
| 23:55.09 | sharf | right not it is flowing up it |
| 23:55.27 | Taintedwisp | you cant sharf |
| 23:55.31 | sharf | can't what? |
| 23:55.33 | Taintedwisp | Flames are particles, or ribbons, not an actual model |
| 23:55.39 | Taintedwisp | You cant rotate the why the flames turn |
| 23:55.43 | Taintedwisp | way* |
| 23:55.46 | sharf | well that's just not true |
| 23:55.52 | sharf | cause I'm looking at it lol |
| 23:55.55 | Taintedwisp | atleast i dont think |
| 23:56.02 | Taintedwisp | Its like trying to rotate the wind doodad :P |
| 23:56.08 | Taintedwisp | Ah nvm then :P |
| 23:56.28 | Taintedwisp | Then In that case just create a new Siteoperation(Explicit Rotation) actor |
| 23:56.32 | sharf | yeah |
| 23:56.34 | Taintedwisp | And adjust it |
| 23:56.34 | sharf | working on it |
| 23:56.35 | sharf | but |
| 23:56.39 | sharf | it's all guess and check |
| 23:56.43 | sharf | cause the god damn axis |
| 23:56.44 | sharf | isn't flat |
| 23:56.47 | sharf | err |
| 23:56.50 | sharf | plane |
| 23:56.51 | sharf | w/e |
| 23:57.10 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:57.58 | sharf | it sees |
| 23:58.00 | sharf | seems* |
| 23:58.08 | sharf | I can make it go in every direction but the one I want lol |
| 23:58.16 | Taintedwisp | Pass it here |
| 23:58.22 | Taintedwisp | Ill take a look for yas |
| 23:58.30 | Taintedwisp | I cant do anything atm anyways |
| 23:58.31 | sharf | that is soo much work lol |
| 23:58.43 | sharf | yeah that's why I'm mapping not on Hots :P |
| 23:58.52 | Taintedwisp | i cant even map... |
| 23:58.59 | sharf | why not/ |
| 23:59.08 | Taintedwisp | My triggerer has my map. and I dont know if hes working on it or not |
| 23:59.20 | sharf | oh gotcha |
| 23:59.29 | sharf | well |
| 23:59.31 | sharf | what I'm doing |
| 23:59.41 | Taintedwisp | ALso I cant go to the sc2mapster threads due to fear of spoilers from morons |
| 23:59.42 | sharf | made an actor using the medium flame model |
| 23:59.49 | sharf | set it to 0.5 scale |
