| 00:00.00 | Dustin | I try to help, if they cant undertand it after a few attempts I just let it go :P |
| 00:00.05 | nooblark | it does the same thing, but without a library function :P |
| 00:01.03 | A1win | I should probably fix my sleep pattern, haven't gotten almost anything done today xO |
| 00:03.10 | A1win | and dunno why I still drink energy drinks, they blur my thoughts D: |
| 00:03.16 | Triceron | is the hots beta over? |
| 00:03.26 | Triceron | or when was the last day |
| 00:04.02 | Dustin | tonight |
| 00:05.01 | Triceron | sweet, gonna find someone to troll with my extra hots beta key |
| 00:05.28 | A1win | how very kind of you |
| 00:05.52 | Triceron | haha |
| 00:06.29 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:07.05 | Ahli | then he loads it and rages on the beta forums :D |
| 00:07.13 | Triceron | locked! |
| 00:07.17 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 00:07.29 | JademusSreg | Just spread it around. |
| 00:07.48 | Triceron | put up my key on reddit |
| 00:07.52 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:08.10 | JademusSreg | And hell, fake keys too. |
| 00:08.36 | A1win | and a promise that anyone who participated in the beta will get a unique avatar in hots |
| 00:08.47 | A1win | (unless there's something it actually gives you) |
| 00:08.55 | Dustin | i need to get my level 5 's tonight |
| 00:08.58 | JademusSreg | Or already used keys. So it isn't lying. |
| 00:09.00 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:10.15 | Triceron | is that the leveling up thing you're talking about? for portraits? |
| 00:10.28 | Triceron | I heard it was pretty easy to get ranked up |
| 00:10.30 | Dustin | ya |
| 00:10.43 | JademusSreg | Painfully awkward metagame mechanics. |
| 00:10.48 | Dustin | i only got a couple games vs ai to do |
| 00:10.57 | Triceron | I don't know if it'd pull me into SC2 |
| 00:11.10 | Triceron | but hell, it worked on me for Warcraft 3 |
| 00:11.24 | Triceron | I worked my ass off to get my knight avatar |
| 00:11.30 | Triceron | 250 wins with humans |
| 00:11.48 | Triceron | then they released the expansion that made it go away -_- |
| 00:12.24 | Dustin | lol |
| 00:12.26 | Dustin | bastards |
| 00:12.40 | Dustin | Ya i started to get some portraits for sc2, but I dont do enough ranked matches |
| 00:13.10 | A1win | whee figured out icons for my ship's rooms... a mini sized blueprint of the ship with the room's area highlighted while others are darker, only showing their borders |
| 00:13.39 | A1win | or maybe that's unnecessary since there's only 4 rooms at least at the moment :Pp |
| 00:13.48 | A1win | and yeah didn't think about the customization stuff yet |
| 00:13.58 | A1win | not quite sure what they'd be able to customize in the ship |
| 00:14.25 | A1win | since the gameplay isn't really about controlling the ship itself more than the warp jumps every now and then |
| 00:14.55 | Dustin | Cant connect to the beta... |
| 00:14.58 | Dustin | Can anyone else? |
| 00:15.04 | Ahli | no |
| 00:15.13 | Triceron | i guess it's down already |
| 00:15.24 | Dustin | fuuuu |
| 00:15.31 | Dustin | Oh well |
| 00:15.41 | Ahli | checks reddit for trolls giving out beta keys |
| 00:15.44 | Triceron | I should make a post on the forums |
| 00:15.44 | Dustin | Ive used the STank icon forever, might as well jsut go with it |
| 00:15.46 | JademusSreg | Well, what matters is we are self-aware enough to observe our voluntary exploitation by systems designed to condition compulsive habits. So long as we're honest about it, it's fine. |
| 00:16.05 | Triceron | bitch about how the leveling system is pro-PVP and doesn't let PVE players get them |
| 00:16.14 | Triceron | and ask for HOTS Dailies |
| 00:16.17 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 00:16.53 | Dustin | UnRanked League Dailys |
| 00:17.02 | Triceron | Campaign dailies! |
| 00:17.05 | Dustin | Kill 10 zerglings with 1 marine in a game |
| 00:17.33 | Dustin | Have 6 ultralkisks by 14 minutes |
| 00:17.38 | Dustin | Shit like that would be sick |
| 00:17.45 | Triceron | lol |
| 00:18.17 | nooblark | i created a rectanlge. |
| 00:18.18 | nooblark | fuck my map. |
| 00:18.19 | Dustin | That would give bonus EXP at the end of the match if you did em |
| 00:19.38 | A1win | Bounty, a wall that speeds up the disc when it hits it |
| 00:19.45 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:19.47 | A1win | or slows it down |
| 00:19.49 | JademusSreg | Slay 10 Forest Pygalisks |
| 00:20.01 | A1win | that wasn't my idea though ;D spoke about it to a friend |
| 00:20.02 | Bounty | I think i just flat out prefer true alterations to the projectile |
| 00:20.19 | Bounty | like it turns into a diff weapon sort of thing |
| 00:20.29 | A1win | well.. it's a faster disc ;> |
| 00:20.32 | A1win | it's different! |
| 00:20.38 | nooblark | how do a turn a diamond into a circle? :O |
| 00:20.39 | Bounty | lol |
| 00:21.04 | Dustin | nooblark, wtf are you talking about lol |
| 00:21.16 | nooblark | the create units in a circle.. |
| 00:21.26 | JademusSreg | Read the pastebin script. It's pretty simple. |
| 00:21.26 | nooblark | i started to make my own function before i realized there was one |
| 00:21.33 | nooblark | relink it please? |
| 00:21.36 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/pEx5GFVi |
| 00:21.38 | nooblark | ty |
| 00:21.49 | nooblark | right now it makes them in a diamond.. lol |
| 00:22.07 | A1win | Point With Polar Offset, use a constant distance |
| 00:22.10 | nooblark | i know why, but i can't figure out how else to make it a circle.. |
| 00:22.17 | nooblark | custom function! |
| 00:22.23 | A1win | why D: |
| 00:22.25 | nooblark | like, i'm trying to make the polar offset function |
| 00:22.28 | nooblark | learning experience. |
| 00:22.58 | nooblark | oooooh |
| 00:23.21 | nooblark | i think i got it |
| 00:23.54 | nooblark | my offsets aren't keeping the max distance, hence square instead of circle :P |
| 00:25.13 | nooblark | aha! |
| 00:25.21 | nooblark | wait, no. |
| 00:25.22 | nooblark | fuk |
| 00:25.42 | nooblark | yah, aha! |
| 00:26.39 | Dustin | Im gonna play some Tofu |
| 00:26.42 | Dustin | Anyone wanna join? |
| 00:27.00 | JademusSreg | I must prepare a delicious meal. |
| 00:27.20 | nooblark | i never played |
| 00:27.24 | nooblark | but i will ry it |
| 00:27.40 | Dustin | It's Dogmais map |
| 00:30.12 | Triceron | he's made it public finally? |
| 00:30.41 | Dustin | Looksl ike it |
| 00:35.03 | Ahli | :D opera is the only browser that handles a hard disc writing thing with html properly... |
| 00:40.14 | Bounty | Tofu exists? |
| 00:40.22 | Bounty | Blasphemy! |
| 00:43.24 | Ahli | http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/19fjda/hots_back_online_go_play_last_few_hours_before/ hots beta back on? |
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| 00:54.07 | Taintedwisp | whats with the no boxes? |
| 00:58.42 | Dustin | Fuck now its giving me errors on the sc2 hots launcher |
| 01:03.35 | Bounty | You there JademusSreg? |
| 01:04.16 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 01:04.30 | Bounty | I finished the concept lol |
| 01:05.22 | JademusSreg | Steaming some asparagus in a brine and frying peppercorn bacon for a farfella pasta salad, fuck yeah. Wat's up? |
| 01:05.58 | JademusSreg | *farfalle |
| 01:06.02 | SaraDT | *tabs between IRC, food talk in 3 of them* |
| 01:06.20 | Bounty | It would obviously be a PvP game but heres how it would work. The map would have spheres and walls in various locations, each would be a diff color. Every color would stand for an attribute/effect, so say you bounced something off a green wall, it would get that effect or you threw something through a green sphere, the same would apply. There would be 2 affects per color, 1 for a wall and 1 for a sphere and during the course of t |
| 01:06.46 | Bounty | Sound like something that would be worth returning to SC2 just to play? |
| 01:09.53 | nooblark | amg the geometry |
| 01:09.54 | JademusSreg | I'd like to play the prototype. Sounds interesting. Like a lethal version of Simon. |
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| 01:10.37 | JademusSreg | Or rather, if the Simon game wasd an arena. |
| 01:10.42 | JademusSreg | *was |
| 01:10.44 | Bounty | I doubt i'll do a prototype, i'll either make it or not, still debating on that but i just wanted to see what you thought >.< |
| 01:11.08 | Bounty | Pretty sure there is/has never been a game like it |
| 01:11.55 | Bounty | oh and everyone rides on hoverboards |
| 01:12.02 | Bounty | forgot about that |
| 01:12.08 | Bounty | lol |
| 01:12.21 | JademusSreg | Hah. I just went back to the future. |
| 01:12.24 | JademusSreg | MacFly. |
| 01:13.08 | Bounty | With hoverboards attack animations won't look like you're sliding all over |
| 01:13.11 | Bounty | >.< |
| 01:15.03 | Bounty | and it would use music from the Star Ocean games of course |
| 01:31.44 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:31.48 | JademusSreg | God solution. |
| 01:31.51 | JademusSreg | *Good |
| 01:31.52 | JademusSreg | Hah |
| 01:57.06 | Taintedwisp | jademusSreg I give photon cycles a -2/5 |
| 01:57.24 | Taintedwisp | why a -2? because.... |
| 01:57.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:57.30 | Taintedwisp | No reason past that |
| 01:58.34 | JademusSreg | Okay. |
| 01:58.56 | Taintedwisp | its a good game though |
| 01:59.01 | Taintedwisp | just getting a -2 out fo 5 :P |
| 01:59.03 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 01:59.13 | JademusSreg | That's cool. |
| 01:59.44 | ThunderLord | that map reminds me of Tron |
| 01:59.47 | Taintedwisp | I dont think you understand... I am actually going to break into someones house who has already rated it and take 3 points off their score, and I will give it a 1 |
| 01:59.48 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:00.13 | JademusSreg | Best counter-review ever. |
| 02:00.17 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:01.10 | ThunderLord | sum1 should make that same game... but with light jets... |
| 02:01.20 | ThunderLord | actually that would probably suck XD |
| 02:01.51 | JademusSreg | Well, I made the source public when I stopped developing it, so feel free to use it. |
| 02:01.52 | Taintedwisp | I already told jademus to do that... |
| 02:01.54 | Taintedwisp | but he no loves me |
| 02:01.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:02.40 | ThunderLord | wait really? |
| 02:02.48 | JademusSreg | It's like I tell my girls, I only have so much love to give, and must be conservative with it, or I'll run out completely. |
| 02:02.51 | ThunderLord | i wana see how u did the background |
| 02:02.58 | ThunderLord | XD! |
| 02:03.03 | JademusSreg | The topic is on mapster. |
| 02:03.05 | ThunderLord | skybox or whatever |
| 02:03.10 | ThunderLord | imma go check it out |
| 02:03.15 | ThunderLord | thats cool :D |
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| 02:24.31 | Taintedwisp | lo |
| 02:24.58 | Taintedwisp | Jademus you tell your girls that you love some anonymous 20 year old dude more!!! |
| 02:24.59 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:25.32 | QueenG | more testin 2day? |
| 02:25.41 | Taintedwisp | dunno, maybe |
| 02:25.53 | Taintedwisp | I uploaded a new version thats public your free to go play and give feedback |
| 02:25.59 | QueenG | k |
| 02:28.18 | Taintedwisp | gunna listen to some ACDC and play campaign |
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| 02:37.43 | iMisu | Yaaaaaaaaa day off tomorrow |
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| 02:41.35 | nooblark | Taz, you would have off on a day i work. |
| 02:41.42 | nooblark | I was off past two days. |
| 02:55.52 | iMisu | Lol sorry mang |
| 03:04.47 | Taintedwisp | creeeper |
| 03:04.53 | Taintedwisp | dang missed it |
| 03:09.33 | Taintedwisp | Dirty deeds and there done for cheap |
| 03:09.41 | Taintedwisp | done dirt cheap* |
| 03:11.05 | nooblark | i gvie up |
| 03:11.07 | nooblark | fuk |
| 03:11.25 | nooblark | god damn schools passing kids too easily now adays. |
| 03:11.47 | nooblark | midly retarded people like myself walking around, to full blown retards like tainted. |
| 03:12.15 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 03:12.37 | nooblark | jade, the only circlish things i produced were 'rigid' |
| 03:13.03 | JademusSreg | Important question: are these structures? |
| 03:13.13 | nooblark | it was with units. |
| 03:13.21 | nooblark | marines, specifically |
| 03:13.24 | JademusSreg | Or rather, do they have footprints? |
| 03:13.28 | nooblark | yes. |
| 03:13.52 | JademusSreg | Footprints clip to cells, man. |
| 03:14.01 | nooblark | does blizzard have the natives' code hidden? |
| 03:14.25 | nooblark | i want to know how they did it, because theirs is so fucking perfect, and mine was all jagged |
| 03:14.27 | JademusSreg | natives are the magical gateways to the engine. |
| 03:14.34 | nooblark | so, no? |
| 03:14.45 | JademusSreg | But footprints force units into cells. |
| 03:14.51 | nooblark | i know. |
| 03:15.19 | nooblark | but i can use the polar offset |
| 03:15.20 | JademusSreg | So circles with them will be crude, unless spread over a large enough area to provide decent resolution. |
| 03:15.25 | nooblark | and it makes a perfect circle, |
| 03:16.32 | nooblark | regardless, i like to try and figure out my own ways of doing functions already given to us. i feel as though you need to be a damn genius to make stuff like that anyways |
| 03:16.50 | nooblark | think about all the basic math functions we abuse.. |
| 03:17.02 | nooblark | like square root... |
| 03:19.19 | ThunderLord | Would anybody be open to test my game tonight??? |
| 03:19.50 | nooblark | iwill |
| 03:19.51 | nooblark | right now |
| 03:19.53 | nooblark | lets go |
| 03:20.07 | ThunderLord | oh for real? |
| 03:20.12 | nooblark | no |
| 03:20.16 | nooblark | im eating oreos |
| 03:20.24 | nooblark | after though |
| 03:20.26 | ThunderLord | good cuz im not ready rite now anyway XD |
| 03:20.40 | ThunderLord | i have a few friends getting on soon, but we need a few more |
| 03:21.33 | ThunderLord | i just finished programming Invasion mode for Marine Arena XD, that was the most annoying thing to program ever |
| 03:22.21 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/x3Jmd.jpg http://snag.gy/WB9oE.jpg yay :D |
| 03:23.18 | A1win | what's that? |
| 03:24.06 | Ahli | building preview with proper collisions and collision with itself only visible by players declared as casters ingame, creatable everywhere where it can be placed, not interfering with the game at all (except for replay). |
| 03:24.24 | A1win | ah |
| 03:24.27 | Ahli | basically an experiment for a caster tool... which seems successful |
| 03:24.50 | A1win | would be cool |
| 03:25.31 | A1win | would also be cool if it was possible to use them without the script and data existing in the actual map :I |
| 03:25.59 | A1win | like "spectate map X using spectator script map Y" |
| 03:26.06 | nooblark | what is pow in C? |
| 03:26.12 | Ahli | make that actor visibility thing for actors only use data =/ |
| 03:26.25 | A1win | nooblark, I'd guess ^ |
| 03:26.33 | Ahli | then it is possible with data only |
| 03:26.35 | A1win | but dunno, never used C ;p |
| 03:26.39 | nooblark | k |
| 03:27.19 | A1win | Ahli, but it still needs to be a custom map that has the data in it :I |
| 03:27.27 | A1win | so doesn't really make a difference |
| 03:27.36 | A1win | whether it's data only or data+script |
| 03:27.38 | Ahli | yeah :D |
| 03:27.57 | A1win | I guess the spectator UI is a step forward though |
| 03:28.28 | Ahli | well, it's cool, but tournaments might still use custom maps because they can have more powerful tools |
| 03:28.42 | A1win | though I doubt we'll see anything as awesome in SC2 D: since it'd only affect so small part of the entire experience with the game |
| 03:29.31 | A1win | but yeah, that'd be good enough |
| 03:29.43 | A1win | but the problem is that they can only use one map at a time :P |
| 03:30.06 | A1win | so it becomes one man's/team's responsibility to make all the features |
| 03:30.13 | nooblark | amg |
| 03:30.31 | nooblark | i should have been making the unit between the points, instead of on them |
| 03:30.45 | A1win | anyway, I should sleep |
| 03:30.45 | Ahli | the tournaments already use their own map versions on arcade anyway |
| 03:30.56 | Ahli | so they easily could do that... |
| 03:33.29 | nooblark | that pisses me off still :( |
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| 03:36.20 | QueenG | You know in the data editor theres the Show Field buttons? Is there a way to not select one of those buttons and not display anything on the right. I am just casually going through the units, abilities and effects and it takes an annoying 10-15 seconds for my comp load all info. |
| 03:44.12 | Taintedwisp | DREAM ON |
| 03:46.07 | Taintedwisp | let them run from fools and from sages |
| 03:46.18 | Taintedwisp | one of the few aerosmith songs I like |
| 03:49.02 | Taintedwisp | and nooblark... fuck you |
| 03:49.03 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:49.06 | Taintedwisp | just to hate |
| 03:49.15 | Taintedwisp | I am sure you talked shit in my absense :P |
| 03:49.45 | Taintedwisp | [22:11] <nooblark> god damn schools passing kids too easily now adays. [22:12] <nooblark> midly retarded people like myself walking around, to full blown retards like tainted. |
| 03:49.48 | Taintedwisp | Yup there it was |
| 03:49.49 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:50.22 | Taintedwisp | hey, and what you know :P I actually passed with honors and strait As :P and according to my end of course test I am the smartest in the state of NC |
| 03:50.23 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:51.01 | Taintedwisp | I pass all test though because even when I dont know I have a psychological cheat that as long as the test was created by a human it will work. |
| 03:51.19 | Taintedwisp | well gotta be multiple choice doesnt matter how many choices |
| 03:51.20 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:51.27 | Taintedwisp | standard schools here have 6 choices |
| 03:52.52 | Taintedwisp | absence* |
| 03:59.43 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 04:02.43 | nooblark | HOYL FUCK I GOT IT! |
| 04:02.44 | nooblark | GO ME! |
| 04:02.53 | JademusSreg | Woo. |
| 04:02.59 | nooblark | i had to go back to the basics of the math of circle! |
| 04:03.24 | nooblark | i'm so pumped, hell yah |
| 04:03.32 | JademusSreg | I really ought to add an arc parameter to that function sometime. |
| 04:04.14 | nooblark | so this is a total misconception i have about programming |
| 04:04.30 | nooblark | i think if i can't make the functions i use, i don't deserve to call myself a programmer |
| 04:04.55 | nooblark | that's why i haven't learned any languages yet, because i don't want to just learn libraries and use them, i want to do shit myself! |
| 04:08.00 | nooblark | how can i add this so i can use it anytime? :O |
| 04:08.43 | Dustin | Just make your own library |
| 04:08.48 | Dustin | With custom functions |
| 04:09.02 | JademusSreg | Yar. |
| 04:09.19 | JademusSreg | Then you can export that file and import it into any map. |
| 04:10.31 | nooblark | i can't add it to the other libraries so it just comes up automatically? |
| 04:11.16 | Ahli | need a tester for a minute on US bnet |
| 04:11.20 | JademusSreg | Libraries must be imported, unless it's a mod dependency, which doesn't save you much trouble. |
| 04:12.11 | JademusSreg | Unless you're sharing that code between a number of published maps. |
| 04:13.14 | nooblark | ok thanks |
| 04:19.48 | Dustin | That would be a nice feature, have an area in the editor where you write your own functions and it taks that on to every map you make if you check mark it to. |
| 04:20.28 | nooblark | yah.. |
| 04:20.36 | Dustin | and if you edit it in the editor it saves a link to the map save and updates it on the maps if it can find them localy |
| 04:20.36 | nooblark | well |
| 04:21.01 | nooblark | dustin, i think there should be a global one |
| 04:21.16 | nooblark | that imports all your functions.. this way you save GOOD ones.. non map dependent |
| 04:21.25 | nooblark | and then some other feature to include other ones.. |
| 04:21.54 | nooblark | like this one i just made, it's useful.. it makes units in a circle around a point with a diameter facing the center |
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| 04:22.07 | turtles | hey all |
| 04:22.27 | nooblark | i wouldn't mind this being in all my maps, as a way to create units. |
| 04:22.51 | nooblark | if i made an action/funtion for a specific map, i'd prefer that not to be imported :P |
| 04:23.23 | Dustin | Nooblark, that's what im saying, they would be general toolset functions |
| 04:23.39 | Dustin | Like integrating your own functions into the native lib |
| 04:24.31 | nooblark | yah |
| 04:24.33 | nooblark | exactly |
| 04:24.44 | nooblark | there's an option in functions to make it native, what does that do? |
| 04:25.06 | QueenG | ahli still need a tester |
| 04:25.07 | QueenG | nvm |
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| 04:27.33 | Ahli | damnit, failed test |
| 04:27.37 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 04:27.46 | Ahli | well, I failed to alter the collide field |
| 04:28.14 | Ahli | my building preview actually blocked pathing now |
| 04:29.47 | Ahli | alright, I know what I did wrong o0 |
| 04:30.54 | Ahli | ok, collision works properly again... |
| 04:30.59 | Ahli | new test required :D |
| 04:32.25 | nooblark | i feel like a tool. |
| 04:32.45 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 04:32.45 | nooblark | i just made that nice little function, and i could have just used the blizzard one instead :o |
| 04:33.18 | nooblark | yeah, i learned how to make units in a circle without the function, but i want that to be a real Action in a library, i think it can be useful |
| 04:33.35 | nooblark | but i don't actually need to do it myself |
| 04:33.36 | nooblark | lol |
| 04:33.46 | JademusSreg | No idea what is going on there. |
| 04:34.32 | nooblark | i'll show yuo |
| 04:34.48 | Taintedwisp | booblark, you can do that in data real easily :P |
| 04:37.58 | nooblark | http://pastebin.com/xQjcHU8p |
| 04:38.04 | ThunderLord | Hey i am about to run a test of the game ive been working on, i would appreciate it if any of you guys would play a round and let me know what u think |
| 04:38.19 | nooblark | they both do the same thing.. |
| 04:38.50 | nooblark | one is hard coded, i didn't need a blizzard function to make the circle, the other one is blizzard's function for making a circle |
| 04:39.51 | nooblark | one has more pride in it.. which one should i save to a library? :P |
| 04:39.53 | ThunderLord | XD, thats what i did for the win condition nooblark XD |
| 04:40.24 | nooblark | well thunder, i knew there was a function, i just wanted to try and make it myself :P |
| 04:40.27 | QueenG | I watched replay Ahli but I did not see any building. I set the view to everyone. |
| 04:40.36 | Taintedwisp | nooblark you should be able to use 360 Degrees since patch 2.0.4 btw |
| 04:40.51 | nooblark | tainted, what the fuck are you talking about now? |
| 04:41.10 | Ahli | yeah? :D |
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| 04:41.33 | Ahli | lol, then that is only appearing to the replay of people actually seeing it ^^ |
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| 04:42.54 | nooblark | you realized you were wrong again, but you already opened your mouth, again. go figure. |
| 04:43.46 | QueenG | what you need to do nooblark is "rotate 360 degrees and walk the other way" |
| 04:43.59 | nooblark | 180? |
| 04:44.02 | nooblark | :P |
| 04:44.29 | JademusSreg | That's call it an even 720, and fall over. |
| 04:44.50 | JademusSreg | *Let's |
| 04:44.59 | QueenG | its a joke |
| 04:45.07 | QueenG | I will point them out juts for you from now on nooblark :) |
| 04:45.19 | nooblark | i don't think tainted realizes 0 = 360, and it can go as high as a want it to, depending on the # of circles i want it to make. |
| 04:45.42 | nooblark | lol that's not a bad idea.. make multiple circles :P |
| 04:46.10 | nooblark | cna you imagine a RPG map where 2 or 3 rings of units pop around your hero when you enter a room? lololol |
| 04:47.51 | ThunderLord | hey nooblark would u be down to do a test run of this game ive been working on. in like 10 or 20 min? |
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| 04:48.42 | nooblark | yah i said yah like 100 times |
| 04:48.55 | ThunderLord | :D |
| 04:48.56 | nooblark | should i add another parameter for the # of rings? |
| 04:49.10 | JademusSreg | still has no idea what is happening. |
| 04:49.11 | ThunderLord | lol |
| 04:49.23 | ThunderLord | *i |
| 04:49.26 | ThunderLord | how do i do that |
| 04:49.34 | JademusSreg | command /me |
| 04:49.42 | ThunderLord | is running a test |
| 04:49.44 | ThunderLord | YEAH! |
| 04:50.01 | QueenG | nooblark want to test your mass map today? |
| 04:50.10 | nooblark | what map? |
| 04:50.44 | QueenG | the map you are working on where players mass units? |
| 04:51.03 | QueenG | remember you said youd make a basic on by end of this week |
| 04:51.17 | nooblark | the one that has been finished and balance since the first week i made it? why would i need to test that one? :P |
| 04:54.52 | ThunderLord | hey nooblark when is misu coming back? are u guys going to test again tonight? |
| 04:56.12 | nooblark | probably in < 1 hour |
| 04:56.14 | nooblark | and i will |
| 04:56.24 | nooblark | it's published, we can play it any time :P |
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| 04:57.57 | ThunderLord | ...want to play it now? |
| 04:58.16 | ThunderLord | my friend who is going to help me test tonight will not be back for another 15 min, so i have a bit of time to kill |
| 05:00.17 | nooblark | skyping u |
| 05:00.56 | Ahli | http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=17908918 |
| 05:07.12 | nooblark | anyone want to play a unit masser game? |
| 05:07.20 | ThunderLord | :D |
| 05:07.27 | nooblark | it's pretty fun, everything is completely imbalanced so it makes crazy fun games |
| 05:07.48 | ThunderLord | Sounds awesome! Ill play for sure! |
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| 05:24.32 | Demo_ | So what with the new patch prevents my units from being targeted.... |
| 05:24.37 | Demo_ | I mean clicked* |
| 05:25.59 | QueenG | hey Demo |
| 05:26.06 | QueenG | Demo_* |
| 05:26.11 | Demo_ | Hi |
| 05:26.19 | Ahli | Demo_: player's gameplay settings |
| 05:26.37 | QueenG | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923493743 |
| 05:26.40 | Ahli | you can override that option, too. Search override in triggers to force them to be able to select it |
| 05:26.59 | QueenG | nvm wrong thread for you demo, i misunderstood |
| 05:27.20 | Demo_ | well, that's stupidly painful, :( |
| 05:28.06 | Demo_ | why wouldn't you want to be able to select enemy units? |
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| 05:28.45 | JademusSreg | Training wheels get in the way as often as they help. |
| 05:29.03 | Ahli | players that play it the first time might be irritated because they can't control the strange unit they were able to select... |
| 05:29.37 | Demo_ | lol, so the black box when I hide ui, and the other things now blocking teh screen |
| 05:29.50 | JademusSreg | Hahaha |
| 05:31.02 | Ahli | http://www.staredit.net/topic/15810/ other useful knowledge for mapmakers regarding this patch |
| 05:31.18 | Bommes | Ahli you watching State of the Game? |
| 05:31.23 | Bommes | They talked about the Gameheart thing earlier |
| 05:31.39 | Ahli | no |
| 05:32.59 | JademusSreg | ??? |
| 05:33.15 | Ahli | did they suggest strange difficult things? :D |
| 05:35.35 | Taintedwisp | wa ba bawooie |
| 05:35.39 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 05:39.33 | QueenG | wow im reading the thread ahli great job. Why you no post in sc2mapster? |
| 05:39.37 | Demo_ | Stupid question, where do I put this ui text |
| 05:43.02 | iMisu | no stupid questions just stupid people |
| 05:43.20 | nooblark | taz |
| 05:43.22 | nooblark | want to play titan? |
| 05:43.25 | iMisu | larky! |
| 05:43.28 | iMisu | fuck yeah |
| 05:43.33 | nooblark | before |
| 05:43.38 | nooblark | you need to fix |
| 05:43.40 | iMisu | call me maybe |
| 05:43.54 | Demo_ | Stupid person asking a question, where do I put this. <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" standalone="yes"?> <Desc> <Frame type="GameUI" name="GameUI" file="GameUI"> <ConsoleWorldBottomOffset val="0"/> </Frame> </Desc> |
| 05:45.34 | JademusSreg | In a SC2Layout file, but the editor has an integrated UI editor since 1.5. |
| 05:46.30 | Demo_ | I've got it now, I just don't understand why Blizzard must change things retroactively |
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| 05:56.30 | Demo_ | I can't find the menu button portion of the UI |
| 05:56.51 | Demo_ | or the select army and idle units |
| 06:05.37 | Demo_ | Sigh why can't these work,... UI - Hide Help Menu Button for (All players) |
| 06:10.26 | JademusSreg | Is it Blizzard-reserved? Blizzerved? |
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| 07:28.32 | Taintedwisp | I HATE NAGGERS |
| 07:28.57 | Taintedwisp | Jademus caused the apocalypse dammit jademus, why? |
| 07:33.43 | Taintedwisp | sixen saw your tweet, blizzard is obviously either announcing A. Starcraft ghost to return, or B. Blizzard dota standalone announcement |
| 07:33.53 | Taintedwisp | Hopefully A |
| 07:33.57 | Taintedwisp | but 90% B. |
| 07:43.02 | Dogmai | No |
| 07:43.09 | Dogmai | I would hope its an additional new IP |
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| 07:46.22 | Dogmai | @ Taintedwisp |
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| 08:35.29 | sharf224 | anyone awake? |
| 08:41.23 | twodie | yeah? |
| 08:41.40 | sharf224 | lol sup |
| 08:41.52 | twodie | lol? sup |
| 08:42.23 | sharf224 | trying to get something on my map to work before sleep >.> |
| 08:42.29 | sharf224 | I don't think we've talked before :o |
| 08:42.55 | twodie | we did but it wasnt really memorible |
| 08:43.22 | sharf224 | ah alright then, I don't have to feel bad lol |
| 08:44.59 | sharf224 | this friggen thing... |
| 08:49.39 | sharf224 | fuck it lol |
| 08:49.40 | sharf224 | ttyl |
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| 09:56.51 | Kubi | https://soundcloud.com/narrating-reddit/buttholerayshields |
| 09:56.53 | Kubi | puting that in my map |
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| 12:05.40 | Kubi | EVIL CHOPPER THE BLADE OF CHOPPING EVIL |
| 12:05.52 | Kubi | I need to use this sound bit |
| 12:05.52 | Kubi | https://soundcloud.com/narrating-reddit/buttholerayshields |
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| 12:08.10 | evily | hi:) have someone tried to apply the medivac double heal beam to a structure? i tried to do it, but the structure wont heal marines |
| 12:10.04 | twodie | epic! |
| 12:10.05 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaDlihIqPws |
| 12:13.31 | G0A | I remember posting that vid here months ago. |
| 12:14.04 | G0A | and Sc2 can barely handle 200 units, while that shit handles thousands:) |
| 12:14.35 | evily | i wonder if it has the same responsiveness |
| 12:15.49 | G0A | ? |
| 12:18.28 | twodie | it sure uses less dirrect orders from players |
| 12:18.56 | twodie | instances of units uses less data than sc2 ones does i think |
| 12:21.09 | Zolden | twodie: yes, sc2 engine uses shitloads information about units, calculates tons of shit, and it deeply increases the ways we can use these units for our mapmaking needs |
| 12:25.19 | G0A | and none of that should increase the lag... |
| 12:30.49 | Zolden | maybe they can optimize some code, but still frequent precise calculations of lots of data takes more preocessor time than calculation of x, y and hp of a simple unit once in 1/2 sec |
| 12:36.47 | twodie | plus complicated colission detection between units makes something |
| 12:37.45 | G0A | I feel the main fail is that they have a badly optimized pathing system |
| 12:40.12 | Zolden | G0A: did you watch "Cube" movie? |
| 12:40.30 | Zolden | it's also sci-fi + horror as u like |
| 12:40.59 | Zolden | there pathing system is badly optimized |
| 12:44.44 | twodie | Well imo its complicated collisions and stuff that makes at high count of units makes lag too |
| 12:46.22 | Zolden | to try this hypothesis, create 1000 units, add "no collision" via behavior, check perfomance gain |
| 12:46.57 | Zolden | no, it won't work, collision system will still work, but its results won't afect units |
| 12:47.10 | twodie | anyway |
| 12:47.33 | twodie | blizz themselves know best what causes that to lag the most |
| 12:49.08 | twodie | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/resources/project-workplace/49454-lot-r-the-last-alliance/#p1 |
| 12:50.13 | Zolden | nice lotr terrain |
| 12:51.00 | twodie | but mostly it would be played bad |
| 12:55.20 | G0A | Zolden yeah I know Cube movie :) |
| 12:55.48 | G0A | but i am not much fun of it. (I never really liked puzzle games) |
| 12:56.22 | G0A | and Sphere is a much better movie:D |
| 12:57.10 | G0A | lol it has 5.8 imbd rating. Imbd sucks... |
| 13:02.08 | twodie | and there is no zolden |
| 13:02.20 | twodie | and imdb doesnt do that |
| 13:05.55 | twodie | wow well trailer reveals too much "cube" movie |
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| 13:18.51 | KomischOo | I still wasnt able to figure out how to spawn units in a circle to build a wall, all at once |
| 13:19.03 | KomischOo | and remove all of them after a couple of seconds again |
| 13:19.08 | KomischOo | can sb help? |
| 13:19.20 | KomischOo | *form a walll |
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| 13:24.38 | G0A | twodie lol people always leave before I could respond |
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| 13:30.27 | KomischOo | I take that as a no :( |
| 13:31.21 | twodie | yeah |
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| 13:37.03 | G0A | KomischOo what you dont know about it? You want to do it with triggers, because with triggers its pretty easy. |
| 13:40.34 | KomischOo | yeah with trigger |
| 13:41.10 | KomischOo | I just never spawned soemting in circle |
| 13:41.22 | G0A | well editor makes it easy for you |
| 13:41.42 | Ahli | http://eu.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/5299070541#14 oh the editor rage :D |
| 13:41.50 | G0A | you have function named something like this: point offset by angle... |
| 13:44.40 | KomischOo | spawn at poitn with polar offset (tahts what id use) |
| 13:45.17 | G0A | Ahli I agree with that data editor is over complicated at some areas, specially that there are things you just cant really turn off in data... the best example for it shadows:) |
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| 13:45.38 | G0A | ahh its called polar offset than:) |
| 13:46.21 | A1win | I'd suggest learning some programming basics, it's a fairly simple problem to solve |
| 13:48.15 | KomischOo | i know that this is simple for soembody who knows how to.. but I cant spend that much tiem on this to learn all the basics |
| 13:48.29 | KomischOo | i jsut need this problem to be solved, my map is a simple Ice Escape |
| 13:48.36 | KomischOo | so I dont need advanced stuff |
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| 13:49.24 | A1win | I don't mean just for that map |
| 13:50.23 | KomischOo | but this is the only tiem when I need those skills |
| 13:50.34 | A1win | it's the last map you'll ever make? |
| 13:51.21 | KomischOo | nope but Im gong to create Escape Maps only |
| 13:51.48 | KomischOo | and creatign units in diffrent shape is the only thing in my concept (and custom models) that I cant do by myself now |
| 13:52.21 | KomischOo | sure the missing knowledge limits the options I got but thats okay for me |
| 13:52.51 | A1win | well, you'll have to describe what you need in way more detail than "spawn units in a circle" if you want detailed help |
| 13:53.06 | A1win | but it also takes time to go into that much detail so not many are willing to do that D: |
| 13:53.29 | twodie | G0A *then |
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| 13:55.10 | KomischOo | I "just" want to spawn units in a circle so close to each other tthat the distance between them is their collsion (0.75) |
| 13:55.13 | KomischOo | 0.375) |
| 13:55.32 | KomischOo | in a circle arround a ponts |
| 13:55.35 | KomischOo | point |
| 13:55.51 | KomischOo | so the distance between the point stays the same, just at diffrent positions and diffrent angels |
| 13:56.15 | A1win | you either need to do some maths to calculate the angle variation or experiment to get it "close enough" |
| 13:57.10 | A1win | or find someone who's willing to spend time to do the maths ;p |
| 13:57.28 | A1win | *math |
| 13:58.09 | KomischOo | A1win, would you sir? :'( |
| 13:59.44 | A1win | I don't think so :s would have to refresh my memory on math first |
| 14:00.18 | KomischOo | awww crap |
| 14:00.37 | KomischOo | ill kist make 200 points now |
| 14:00.42 | A1win | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle |
| 14:00.43 | A1win | :I |
| 14:01.04 | KomischOo | ill just * |
| 14:01.11 | KomischOo | and spawn them at them points |
| 14:01.11 | KomischOo | ^^ |
| 14:01.12 | evily | "cant turn toward target" how can i fix that? |
| 14:01.29 | A1win | huh? |
| 14:01.46 | evily | i try to make my sensor tower heal people, but it says BEEP cant turn toward target |
| 14:01.59 | A1win | set the ability's Arc to 360 |
| 14:02.02 | evily | ok |
| 14:02.23 | A1win | so that it can cast it to any direction instead of just right in front of it |
| 14:03.03 | evily | thanks. worked great |
| 14:04.28 | zenxu | watched dark knight rises |
| 14:04.32 | zenxu | what a dissapointment |
| 14:04.39 | zenxu | in a way it felt like d3 |
| 14:04.50 | zenxu | some totally unnnececary plot twists |
| 14:04.53 | A1win | hehe |
| 14:04.55 | zenxu | among other flaws |
| 14:05.13 | zenxu | no character development in that movie for sure |
| 14:05.36 | zenxu | after half the movie some flashbacks (what amazing character development) |
| 14:05.38 | zenxu | Im anoyed |
| 14:05.40 | zenxu | :( |
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| 14:10.38 | Monkalizer | if 2-4 players are playing multiplayer, how many units can the average computer juggle before you get destructive lag? |
| 14:10.45 | Monkalizer | destructive as in unplayable |
| 14:10.56 | Dustin|Work | Depends on the computer and Internet Connection I would assume |
| 14:11.13 | Monkalizer | im making a zerg pump and want to give the players an intense experience |
| 14:11.21 | A1win | and complexity of the map's pathing mesh |
| 14:11.25 | Monkalizer | ive played protoss special forces and my computer cant handle it |
| 14:11.33 | Monkalizer | hm i se |
| 14:12.01 | A1win | some special forces maps have also been stacking behaviors to count of thousands, which seems to cause huge performance drops |
| 14:12.20 | A1win | or at least did |
| 14:12.34 | Monkalizer | mkay |
| 14:13.22 | Monkalizer | but i think that if I limit my players to have maybe 100 in supply limit and let two zerg players have 150 each at max (one for spawning and one melee) |
| 14:13.46 | Monkalizer | thats at most 400+300=700 units at most |
| 14:16.16 | A1win | test it ;p |
| 14:16.27 | A1win | just spawn 700 units and order them to move around at random |
| 14:17.01 | A1win | (though add some pathing blockers/cliffs in the map if it's going to have them) |
| 14:17.12 | A1win | for the test, that is |
| 14:20.32 | Monkalizer | yep |
| 14:36.16 | evily | HM! i have a wierd bug. When testing map via the editor in single player or what ever you wanna call it, all map is revealed. When i upload map and try it via bnet, all the xel naga towers are active for all players. Anyone know what could be wrong? didnt use to be like this. |
| 14:37.14 | A1win | not enough details :X |
| 14:37.37 | evily | nah. i figured maybe someone tried something similar. i am clueless will have to investigate more |
| 14:37.57 | A1win | you didn't even tell what you tried :P |
| 14:38.01 | evily | lol |
| 14:38.08 | evily | i tried replacing them |
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| 14:50.16 | evily | do you have any idea where to start when trying to find a bug that gives all players vision from a xel naga tower from the moment the map starts? its just suppose to work like normal towers, and it use to. but i have no idea what changed. |
| 14:51.00 | twodie | evily mb you set that it was your (player 1) owned unit |
| 14:51.06 | twodie | try to set to neutral |
| 14:51.12 | twodie | in terrain editor |
| 14:51.14 | twodie | units tab |
| 14:52.27 | evily | ohhhhhhhhhhh the penny drops. |
| 14:52.32 | evily | that was kind of what was the problem i guess. |
| 14:52.54 | twodie | balls |
| 14:53.14 | evily | when the map starts, a command center is neutral, and all players get ownership of it. i guess the game gets confused and gives players vision from all neutral stuff in the map. |
| 14:56.12 | evily | yes that was it. apparantly if i give myself ownership of a building that is neutral at map init, i will gain vision of all neutral buildings in the map. silly bug. just had to change ownership from that 1 building to player 14 instead of player 0.. |
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| 15:13.40 | Zolden | collides twodie with path blocker |
| 15:17.10 | zenxu | nnooooooooooo |
| 15:17.15 | zenxu | dont die |
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| 15:22.55 | Monkalizer | does any of the blizzard people hang out here anymore, or have they moved their unofficial qa to the forums? |
| 15:23.50 | zenxu | who knows |
| 15:24.02 | Monkalizer | also, are there any news on what they want to do with the arcade (in general) |
| 15:24.09 | Monkalizer | hm |
| 15:24.58 | zenxu | they dont want to do anything with it |
| 15:25.08 | Monkalizer | i see |
| 15:25.47 | zenxu | Zolden: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0UeLSMa_gs |
| 15:25.52 | zenxu | you listen to this all day? |
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| 15:46.16 | ThunderLord | wut? |
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| 15:48.32 | sharf224 | hey all |
| 15:57.22 | KomischOo | Circle shape regions dont work, or is it jsut me? |
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| 15:58.20 | Dustin|Work | Define "dont work" |
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| 16:00.22 | sharf224 | I need help with the hero training building lol |
| 16:01.35 | Dustin|Work | Then ask the question :P |
| 16:02.07 | sharf224 | well...you remember what I'm trying to do? |
| 16:02.16 | Dustin|Work | No idea |
| 16:02.21 | sharf224 | lol |
| 16:02.32 | Dustin|Work | Ive smoked alot of weed since then :P |
| 16:02.44 | sharf224 | a neutral building that players have shared control of to select a hero from |
| 16:03.39 | sharf224 | and I've been trying an interact ability |
| 16:03.45 | sharf224 | but that requires a unit to be nearby |
| 16:04.10 | Dustin|Work | You want it to not require the unit to be close? |
| 16:04.22 | Dustin|Work | Just make the Interact's ability range the max |
| 16:04.23 | sharf224 | I want it to not require a unit |
| 16:04.35 | Dustin|Work | Not possible |
| 16:04.56 | sharf224 | how do maps that have hero selectors work then? |
| 16:04.57 | Dustin|Work | The interact ability checks the unit to see who owns it and uses that to give ownership of the made unit to that player |
| 16:05.12 | Dustin|Work | Many many different ways |
| 16:05.21 | Dustin|Work | People make their own shit all the time |
| 16:05.54 | Dustin|Work | Could be dummy abilities that trigger off a players use and then run a trigger to make the unit etc |
| 16:06.03 | twodie | we really do Dustin do our own shit on toilet every now and (insert key word here) |
| 16:10.18 | Zolden | turns duckies into a pig and surrounds him by hungry and initiative fatmans, one of wich has barbecue in his trunk |
| 16:12.55 | duckies | releases a horrifying "oink" which infects fatmen with swinophobia |
| 16:13.19 | G0A | Zolden you asked If I know the Cube movies and I do but I dont really liked them, do you know Sphere movie?:) |
| 16:17.08 | Zolden | lol |
| 16:17.10 | Zolden | sphere? |
| 16:17.23 | Zolden | no, but i wish to know if it's cube related |
| 16:18.26 | Zolden | and also a cone which should be the best |
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| 16:23.02 | G0A | Zolden it has nothing to do with the Cube, other than its scifi too and its a pretty good movie |
| 16:27.40 | Monkalizer | i placed a infested colonist hut on the map, but it does not show up as infested. Do I have to target it with some effect? I would like to have some Zerginess covering it |
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| 16:28.33 | zenxu | god damnit |
| 16:28.41 | zenxu | honey water still has not cured me |
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| 16:29.15 | zenxu | still feels like alien coming out of my chest when Im clearing my throat |
| 16:29.49 | Zolden | zenxu: smoke weed it helps in cases like yours |
| 16:29.55 | Monkalizer | tss just an exuse to stay home and map |
| 16:30.26 | Zolden | it's expectorant |
| 16:30.32 | ThunderLord | Yeah, i get sick all the time when i want to map... |
| 16:30.51 | zenxu | well I guess ill go lie down and watch tv for a while |
| 16:30.58 | ThunderLord | map |
| 16:31.01 | zenxu | perhaps brainstorm at same time |
| 16:31.43 | ThunderLord | :D |
| 16:31.54 | ThunderLord | kk |
| 16:31.59 | ThunderLord | Get well soon !!! |
| 16:32.23 | Monkalizer | actually i've been sick this week too, and I was like: perfect, now I can stay home and map. |
| 16:32.34 | ThunderLord | yeah! |
| 16:32.38 | Monkalizer | I tried to sit up but felt like I was about to fall off the chair |
| 16:32.54 | ThunderLord | dude i feel a huge sickness wave comin on for when HOTS comes out XD |
| 16:33.01 | Monkalizer | My fingers were aching when i pressed keybuttons |
| 16:33.07 | Zolden | sickly nerds |
| 16:33.18 | Monkalizer | there are some downsides to being sick... :P |
| 16:33.27 | ThunderLord | .... |
| 16:33.33 | ThunderLord | yeah' |
| 16:33.46 | ThunderLord | its great being just a little sick |
| 16:33.46 | Kubi | https://soundcloud.com/narrating-reddit/buttholerayshields |
| 16:33.49 | Kubi | we have to use this soundbit |
| 16:34.00 | Monkalizer | jup |
| 16:34.02 | ThunderLord | WHY WOULD U WANT TO USE THAT SOUND! |
| 16:34.10 | Zolden | sicknass stumulates imagination becuase increased body temperature affects brain activity |
| 16:34.32 | ThunderLord | is that for real? or is that just BS? |
| 16:34.41 | Zolden | once i got sick and painted a cool terrain for homm map with volcanos and deserts |
| 16:34.55 | ThunderLord | Oh shit |
| 16:35.00 | ThunderLord | i better go get sick |
| 16:35.05 | twodie | cnc1 in cnc3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CblscFOwgh0 |
| 16:36.15 | Zolden | twodie: u isn't geeky enough |
| 16:36.25 | Zolden | it's red alert 1 in red alert 3 |
| 16:36.31 | Zolden | cnc is a different shit |
| 16:36.34 | ThunderLord | )): I mess Red alert 1 |
| 16:36.34 | ThunderLord | and 2 |
| 16:36.41 | ThunderLord | 3 was so Cheesey |
| 16:36.51 | ThunderLord | like fucking ball-game nachos |
| 16:37.02 | Zolden | RA2 was cool, one of the best 2d rts engines |
| 16:37.14 | ThunderLord | i would play RA1 and 2 but they dont work on anything past Windows 2000 |
| 16:37.17 | twodie | Zolden well yeah, its like mistake of G0A usage of "than" |
| 16:38.20 | Dustin|Work | I never liked the RA or CNC series |
| 16:38.24 | Kubi | WARNING BUTTHOLE SPOTTED, DEPLOY RAY SHIELDS |
| 16:38.27 | Dustin|Work | I was jaded on SC's awesomeness |
| 16:39.10 | ThunderLord | my first game was Red alert 2 |
| 16:39.49 | ThunderLord | Red Alert 2>RA1>Age of Empires>Starcraft 1>Warcraft III>WoW (Regretably)>Starcraft 1 again>Starcraft 2 |
| 16:40.02 | ThunderLord | in order |
| 16:40.34 | Zolden | twodie: contact that guy and ask him about the models |
| 16:41.01 | duckies | so you don't like original C&C thunder? :'( |
| 16:41.20 | ThunderLord | I never got to play the whole thing |
| 16:41.20 | G0A | ThunderLord WoW aint rts |
| 16:41.23 | Dustin|Work | CnC and RA were to "Military" for my liking |
| 16:41.34 | ThunderLord | those are all the games that i extensively played |
| 16:41.42 | ThunderLord | starting with RA2 when i was like 8 |
| 16:41.43 | Dustin|Work | He didn't say it was RTS Goa :P |
| 16:41.52 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 16:42.03 | ThunderLord | and i added that i regret the time i spent in WoW |
| 16:42.06 | ThunderLord | because it was not RTS |
| 16:42.07 | ThunderLord | XD |
| 16:42.16 | Dustin|Work | I loved most of the time I was on WoW |
| 16:42.23 | Dustin|Work | Then I hated it and stoped lol |
| 16:42.30 | ThunderLord | I loved it too |
| 16:42.31 | ThunderLord | but |
| 16:42.49 | ThunderLord | it did not contribute to being an RTS player |
| 16:43.01 | Dustin|Work | Is that all you ever played was rts? |
| 16:43.07 | ThunderLord | i played WoW |
| 16:43.13 | G0A | I loved alpha hacked wow, where I could set movement speed to any value |
| 16:43.30 | ThunderLord | and ive dabbeled in FPS and stuff, but that does not even copare to the amount of time i played RTS games |
| 16:43.39 | Dustin|Work | Really, I don't think I've ever met a Genreist before |
| 16:43.40 | G0A | though EVE>WoW |
| 16:43.47 | ThunderLord | I like the Metal Gear Solid Games |
| 16:43.55 | Dustin|Work | EVE > Spreadsheet |
| 16:43.55 | ThunderLord | im sorry but i have to admit |
| 16:43.59 | G0A | Cossacks 1.35 > all other fps |
| 16:44.12 | ThunderLord | if i had to choose the 1 best game in all history |
| 16:44.16 | ThunderLord | it would have to Be WoW |
| 16:44.20 | ThunderLord | not because i like it |
| 16:44.34 | ThunderLord | because i respect how much work and time and quality went in to that game |
| 16:45.10 | ThunderLord | that game by far has had more work time and money put in to it than any other game ever... and it has been the most profitable too |
| 16:47.31 | ThunderLord | its like inspirational even XD, it shows that hard work pays off |
| 16:59.06 | Dustin|Work | Hmmm |
| 16:59.20 | Dustin|Work | Does Mists Of Pandera have a starter edition yet |
| 16:59.56 | ThunderLord | have they decided on the next WoW expansion? |
| 17:00.05 | Dustin|Work | There wont be one |
| 17:00.13 | ThunderLord | wait really? |
| 17:00.16 | ThunderLord | why? |
| 17:00.17 | Dustin|Work | This is the last, then it's going to be F2P when they release Project Titan |
| 17:00.42 | ThunderLord | how do you know that!!! |
| 17:00.48 | ThunderLord | wow will be F2P??? |
| 17:00.57 | Dustin|Work | Yeah after they release their new MMO |
| 17:01.16 | ThunderLord | so we know that Titan will be an MMO |
| 17:01.31 | Dustin|Work | Yes |
| 17:01.39 | ThunderLord | why was i not informed |
| 17:01.40 | ThunderLord | XD |
| 17:01.42 | Dustin|Work | Super Hero MMO |
| 17:01.45 | Dustin|Work | New IP |
| 17:01.59 | zenxu | im somalian prince give me all our money |
| 17:01.59 | Dustin|Work | It's some pretty non well known shit yet |
| 17:02.07 | ThunderLord | wait when did we learn all this about Titan? |
| 17:02.23 | Dustin|Work | We've known Titan has been in production wfor a while now |
| 17:02.31 | ThunderLord | yeah i knew that |
| 17:02.37 | ThunderLord | but it was shrowded in mystery |
| 17:02.43 | Dustin|Work | It still is technically |
| 17:03.28 | zenxu | Im sure if you speculate this a bit more you will get what MMO titan will be |
| 17:03.52 | ThunderLord | its a Super Hero MMO> |
| 17:04.05 | ThunderLord | its not like, old time-y stuff like WoW? |
| 17:04.19 | zenxu | ... |
| 17:04.38 | Dustin|Work | Right, it's based around super heroes, a brand new IP |
| 17:04.41 | Dustin|Work | That's all I know |
| 17:05.01 | ThunderLord | im not sure i like that idea XD |
| 17:05.07 | Dustin|Work | Yeah me either |
| 17:05.12 | ThunderLord | but whatever, im sure blizzard will pull it off... |
| 17:05.13 | Dustin|Work | City of Heroes was bad |
| 17:05.37 | ThunderLord | like how could they ever compare to WoW? |
| 17:05.50 | Dustin|Work | I think it could be a cool idea if done right |
| 17:05.55 | ThunderLord | or any title that has been around for so long |
| 17:06.00 | Dustin|Work | Well, they have like 8 years of MMO Experience now |
| 17:06.13 | Dustin|Work | So I would hope they used that to make shit better than wow :P |
| 17:06.28 | ThunderLord | there is no doubt in my mind that it will be done extremely well |
| 17:06.41 | ThunderLord | its Blizzard after all |
| 17:06.44 | Dustin|Work | I thought the same till D3 cameout lol |
| 17:06.56 | ThunderLord | D3 WAS NOT THAT BAD! |
| 17:07.00 | Dustin|Work | .... |
| 17:07.01 | ThunderLord | it was bad for a blizzard game |
| 17:07.20 | Dustin|Work | It was rushed and not thought through, it's probably the worst BLizzard game made so far :P |
| 17:07.32 | ThunderLord | and its sad because, the game has so much potential, but like 3 stupid decisions screwed the whole thing up |
| 17:07.39 | Dustin|Work | I'd have more fun playing WC1 than Diablo 3 |
| 17:07.51 | ThunderLord | like how they did hero customization, and how there was no staying power, you could respek whenever u wanted |
| 17:08.03 | ThunderLord | and their stupid economy AH |
| 17:08.12 | Dustin|Work | The whole thing makes me sad thinking about it |
| 17:08.40 | ThunderLord | but the gameplay was SOLID, and the engine was great, the story was epic... just a few mechanics were missing... |
| 17:08.51 | ThunderLord | IT WAS SO CLOSE XD |
| 17:09.22 | ThunderLord | did u like D2? |
| 17:09.25 | Dustin|Work | I was actually pretty sad at the story too :P |
| 17:09.30 | Dustin|Work | I loved the fuck out of D2 |
| 17:09.32 | ThunderLord | why? |
| 17:09.40 | ThunderLord | why the story i mean |
| 17:09.58 | ThunderLord | the cinematic at the end of act 1, i shat my pants it was so cool |
| 17:10.20 | Dustin|Work | I dont know, It just didn't click for me, felt forced and didnt pull me in at all, unlike Diablo 2's story |
| 17:10.29 | zenxu | story was epic? |
| 17:10.32 | zenxu | it was utter bullshit |
| 17:10.36 | ThunderLord | D2s story pulled u in? |
| 17:10.42 | Dustin|Work | fuck yes it did |
| 17:10.47 | ThunderLord | i didnt get D2s story that well |
| 17:10.56 | ThunderLord | it just felt like... Kill this demon... kill that demon |
| 17:11.04 | ThunderLord | i didnt listen to what everyone said tho |
| 17:11.06 | ThunderLord | so its my fault |
| 17:11.21 | zenxu | dont you just think person loses 99% of his respect with the line "d3 story was epic" |
| 17:11.35 | zenxu | or rather credibility would be better word maybe |
| 17:12.06 | ThunderLord | there was some shit in the D3 story |
| 17:13.03 | ThunderLord | but i was able to get in to it, Tyrael was fucking badass, it was pretty bullshit that Dekard cane got ninjaed by a butterfly lady while u were out on a quest... |
| 17:13.03 | Monkalizer | i liked the d3 cutscenes |
| 17:13.31 | Monkalizer | the smoke effects of that nightmare was cool, as well as the glassy-wiing shattering effect of the angels |
| 17:13.32 | Dustin|Work | Dont get me wrong, Blizzard can make some sick as fuck Cinematics |
| 17:13.53 | ThunderLord | The Heaven level was so awesome |
| 17:13.58 | ThunderLord | act |
| 17:14.08 | ThunderLord | environments were amazing |
| 17:14.26 | ThunderLord | U can give D3 alotta shit, but it had its strong points |
| 17:17.52 | Zolden | one day i'll try d3 |
| 17:18.06 | Zolden | is it free yet? |
| 17:18.32 | Dustin|Work | Zolden |
| 17:18.34 | ThunderLord | no but u can get it on the PlayStation 3 XD~!!!!! |
| 17:18.38 | Dustin|Work | Still $60 |
| 17:19.50 | Zolden | I wouldn't even pay $60 for d3 + suck my dick |
| 17:22.11 | ThunderLord | if u compare it to every other 60$ game out there, it is definately worth it |
| 17:22.20 | ThunderLord | its just not deserving of the Blizzard label |
| 17:23.03 | twodie | Zolden well its free to try at as far as i know |
| 17:25.40 | Zolden | yea, drug dealers give crack to kids to try for free too |
| 17:28.49 | twodie | but here you will be less depended on it |
| 17:29.40 | ThunderLord | i mean its not a game that you would want to log days of playtime in like WoW or starcraft |
| 17:29.54 | ThunderLord | its fun for awhile, then u get to endgame and it kinda sucks |
| 17:32.18 | ThunderLord | hey does anybody feel like testing a game? |
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| 17:45.19 | Triceron | Zolden |
| 17:45.20 | twodie | Zolden and sent them a letter |
| 17:46.15 | Zolden | hey |
| 17:46.54 | Triceron | you played much with particles? I'm trying to get particle effects to not trail |
| 17:47.04 | Triceron | like Archon, where it follows the unit 100% |
| 17:47.18 | Zolden | Triceron: yea, it's possible |
| 17:47.26 | Zolden | there should be flag for it |
| 17:47.27 | Triceron | not sure what settings I need |
| 17:47.39 | Zolden | i knew where it is in the exporter |
| 17:47.40 | Triceron | right now I'm guessing 'Mass' |
| 17:47.58 | Zolden | check tutorial, they explain every single particle property |
| 17:48.45 | Triceron | oh, they do |
| 17:48.51 | Triceron | must've been updated |
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| 17:51.24 | Zolden | Inherit Parent Velocity makes each particle add the velocity of the model it is part of when it is emitted. This makes the system look like it is moving with the model as opposed to being dropped off in space. |
| 17:51.31 | Zolden | this one i think |
| 17:51.42 | Triceron | oh, thanks! |
| 17:53.39 | Zolden | or you can set its percent where 100 means particles move with the model and 0 - stay as a trail |
| 17:53.49 | Zolden | I used it for ribbon |
| 17:54.17 | Triceron | yeah gonna test that right now |
| 17:59.56 | Triceron | hmm, annoying |
| 18:00.00 | Triceron | it seems to still trail |
| 18:00.40 | Zolden | did you try the checkbox? or percent? or both? |
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| 18:03.17 | JademusSreg | Pew. |
| 18:03.52 | Triceron | I'm using Inherit Parent Velocity checked at 100% |
| 18:04.02 | Triceron | and it trails, doesn't look like it's staying with the model at all |
| 18:04.27 | Triceron | using radial emitter |
| 18:04.37 | Triceron | at 5 speed |
| 18:05.17 | JademusSreg | Sounds like I walked in on some troubleshooting-coitus. |
| 18:05.29 | Zolden | so, when unit walks, particle doesn't follow? |
| 18:05.56 | Triceron | yeah the particles trail off where they're left |
| 18:06.01 | Triceron | I wonder if it's gravity conflicting |
| 18:06.04 | Triceron | gonna turn that off |
| 18:06.28 | Zolden | is particle linked to models mesh or bone? |
| 18:06.33 | Triceron | bone |
| 18:07.08 | Zolden | i think grvity shouldn't affect it |
| 18:07.16 | Triceron | that's what I figure too |
| 18:07.48 | Zolden | i'll check it a bit later after I finish some data work |
| 18:08.39 | Zolden | JademusSreg: do you troubleshoot someone's coitus troubles? |
| 18:09.16 | Zolden | or you just doesn't like the process osm uch so u feel like it's a coitus where you get penetrated? |
| 18:09.24 | JademusSreg | Yeah. 24-hour phone coitus support service. |
| 18:09.40 | Zolden | oh, u definitely get penetrated |
| 18:09.43 | JademusSreg | I get a ring and tell people where to stick it. |
| 18:09.54 | Zolden | any problems? |
| 18:09.59 | Zolden | like psychological help? |
| 18:10.11 | JademusSreg | Some callers cry. A lot. |
| 18:10.18 | Zolden | do teens ask you how to kill themselves painlessly? |
| 18:10.31 | JademusSreg | Prom night is the busiest time of the year. |
| 18:10.58 | hobbidude | hey jade do remember you mentioned something about an action actor? |
| 18:11.01 | JademusSreg | Only when I'm doing 24-hour phone suicide support service. |
| 18:11.06 | JademusSreg | hobb, maybe? |
| 18:11.46 | Zolden | guys, what sc2 icon whould work good as retreat icon? |
| 18:12.13 | hobbidude | kk well i found out i solved a number of issues i had with my projectile work will create them and got me to wondering how exactly do they help |
| 18:12.40 | hobbidude | do they have to be done for every launch effect? |
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| 18:12.57 | JademusSreg | They magically guide beams or missiles or impact or launch stuff to their proper hosts. |
| 18:13.06 | Taintedwisp | MAGICAILLY |
| 18:13.14 | hobbidude | lol that sounds about right |
| 18:13.16 | JademusSreg | And by magically, I mean they are defined in the host fields. |
| 18:13.22 | Taintedwisp | In that fucked up mover editor -_-... |
| 18:13.29 | Taintedwisp | I opened up that thing, fuck that tab.. |
| 18:13.30 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 18:13.45 | hobbidude | so do i need one for every launch effect?. |
| 18:14.08 | hobbidude | im finding i doesn't work with a set |
| 18:14.13 | ThunderLord | is it just more, or does the editor not crash as much since 2.0? |
| 18:14.13 | JademusSreg | hobb, naw. "Instant" effects like the marine weapon damage only use the Attack Effect token. |
| 18:14.25 | hobbidude | ya im using instant |
| 18:14.32 | JademusSreg | For missiles, launch and impact effect tokens are used. |
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| 18:15.28 | hobbidude | are they not need for target effects then? |
| 18:16.40 | hobbidude | oh does the user validator not apply when testing? |
| 18:17.33 | JademusSreg | "Instant" in the sense there is no intermediary missile. |
| 18:17.43 | JademusSreg | Not as in Effect - Instant ability. |
| 18:22.22 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 18:23.27 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:23.55 | Taintedwisp | but dont stay either |
| 18:23.56 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 18:37.41 | twodie | soooooooooooooooooo lazy |
| 18:39.07 | Zolden | weed is the answer |
| 18:39.12 | Dustin|Work | ^ |
| 18:40.30 | Zolden | twodie: what's ra remake progress? |
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| 18:40.38 | Zolden | 0.3%? |
| 18:42.14 | Triceron | Red Alert? |
| 18:43.57 | iMisu | ra2> all |
| 18:47.58 | Triceron | no way, RA3>all |
| 18:48.33 | iMisu | ra3 is garb |
| 18:48.39 | Triceron | never played |
| 18:49.25 | Zolden | :) |
| 18:50.02 | Zolden | guys, can I use validator as requirement? I want abil's button to hide when validator returns false |
| 18:54.05 | Zolden | he-he, noobs |
| 18:54.06 | Zolden | sure it's possible |
| 18:54.19 | twodie | Zolden 0 |
| 18:55.07 | Dustin|Work | Yes Zolden |
| 18:56.32 | Zolden | twodie: contact that ra1 in ra3 guy and ask for models |
| 18:56.45 | Zolden | also contact that ra in sc2 mod author and ask for models |
| 18:57.01 | twodie | Zolden ALREADY DID THAT AND TRIED TO NOTE YOU THAT |
| 18:58.56 | Zolden | got models? |
| 18:58.59 | Zolden | show me |
| 18:59.07 | Zolden | do they have normal maps? |
| 18:59.15 | Zolden | do they have <5k tris? |
| 18:59.34 | Zolden | hits twhodie in the lying center |
| 19:00.33 | hobbidude | Zolden yes on the requirement |
| 19:02.12 | twodie | dodges and hits back with his dick |
| 19:02.20 | twodie | no i didnt got response yet |
| 19:02.49 | twodie | and wouldnt expect it at all! |
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| 19:04.23 | G0A | rofl 150k $ for making one character in a 2D game: http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/333003/ |
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| 19:06.04 | Taintedwisp | wow... |
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| 19:07.02 | hobbidude | it like the "rewards"part of it |
| 19:07.40 | Taintedwisp | Thats called a corrupt kickstarter.... really... charging people for DLC, DLC is supposed to be made with the money the company makes off of the game itself. Which means they blew the money they earned.... |
| 19:08.04 | Taintedwisp | I didnt mean charging for dlc, I ment charging people more to make DLC |
| 19:08.26 | Taintedwisp | pretty much they made a kickstarter to make dlc, and cover all of their profits and more. |
| 19:08.54 | G0A | yeah anything about money is wrong for you |
| 19:09.05 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: r u a socialist? |
| 19:09.10 | Zolden | come to russia |
| 19:09.23 | Taintedwisp | GOA, if it made that much as a kickstarter, then the game sold PLENTY to finance the dlc on its own, and they fucked up |
| 19:09.28 | Zolden | there is communism and everything is free |
| 19:09.39 | Taintedwisp | fuck socialism and fuck capitialism, both would fail. |
| 19:10.10 | Taintedwisp | No i am not saying it should be free -_-, I am saying that asking for donations to make dlc they had already promised, becuase THEY fucked up, is wrong.. |
| 19:10.49 | iMisu | HAY! Taintedfail |
| 19:11.06 | Taintedwisp | shut up creeper |
| 19:11.11 | Taintedwisp | go pretend to be a woman |
| 19:11.16 | iMisu | just because you like my dick |
| 19:11.20 | iMisu | doesnt mean im a creeper |
| 19:11.25 | Taintedwisp | creeper. |
| 19:11.33 | iMisu | lolol |
| 19:12.32 | iMisu | is it possible to have 2 data windows open |
| 19:12.36 | iMisu | on 2 different tabs |
| 19:12.46 | Taintedwisp | sadly no |
| 19:12.54 | Taintedwisp | atlease not that I know of |
| 19:12.57 | iMisu | god, makes me want to drown my self with a gun |
| 19:13.02 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 19:13.10 | G0A | Zolden I thought russia is fascists state. |
| 19:14.08 | iMisu | Depends if you have dogs standing on hamburgers or not |
| 19:14.18 | Zolden | actually even nationalists in russia look better than the actual goverment |
| 19:14.51 | Taintedwisp | Shut up zolden, go grow some potatoes |
| 19:14.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:14.58 | iMisu | I had a poop that looks like Nelson Mandela with a beard but its very good at playing poker..... wow im hungry im gonna get some toast |
| 19:15.05 | G0A | Zolden nationalists do look better than the ruling government in most of the countries in these days.. |
| 19:15.07 | hobbidude | yes on the windows but not specifically through the editor |
| 19:18.31 | Taintedwisp | Zolden you growing my potatoes or not? |
| 19:18.41 | Taintedwisp | I would ask for some oranges too, but its too cold up there. |
| 19:18.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:18.47 | Taintedwisp | to* |
| 19:21.54 | Zolden | it's cold even for potatoes |
| 19:21.59 | Zolden | just snow |
| 19:22.11 | Zolden | went away in the snow to jog |
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| 19:23.07 | Taintedwisp | L( |
| 19:23.08 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 19:23.18 | Taintedwisp | damn aussies, think they are all cool |
| 19:23.21 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:23.42 | Taintedwisp | See zolden your mortal enemy is back, where you are too cold he is too warm :P. |
| 19:24.01 | Taintedwisp | you must fight to the death for my amusement |
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| 19:28.40 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai fight zolden to the death he mocks you with his cold weather |
| 19:29.31 | Taintedwisp | Vail help me I must get russia and Aus fighting so I can take over the world :( |
| 19:29.50 | Vail | sorry cant help there |
| 19:30.30 | Taintedwisp | darn |
| 19:30.46 | Taintedwisp | there goes all my plans to enslave the world crushed |
| 19:35.34 | Taintedwisp | why so quiet its friday, you guys should be uppity today |
| 19:35.35 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 19:37.13 | Taintedwisp | GRANDFASHA |
| 19:37.21 | Taintedwisp | the fasha |
| 19:38.06 | Taintedwisp | And,... I hate blizzard once again -_-... now to look at kerrigan for 3 years before its changed to zeratool. |
| 19:38.36 | Taintedwisp | why why why do they insist on using a single image for sc2 start up |
| 19:38.56 | Taintedwisp | why not have like 3-5 minutes that circulate -_- these small things are what makes people want to play games. |
| 19:39.36 | twodie | who like hot dogs? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-sq4nzGoCE |
| 19:41.43 | Taintedwisp | lol |
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| 19:46.16 | iMisu | is it possible to make the loading screen animated in ANYWAY ? |
| 19:49.03 | Taintedwisp | yes but not in a way that you would like. |
| 19:49.12 | Taintedwisp | Technically it wouldnt be a loadingscreen |
| 19:49.25 | Taintedwisp | but an animated screen your loading screen turns into when the game starts |
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| 19:52.38 | QueenG | I was writing a post concerning a data issue I had for a few hours but then I figured it out >.< |
| 19:54.16 | duckies | Guys, you know if there are any effects in SC2 that look like a blade slash |
| 19:54.17 | duckies | ? |
| 19:54.44 | twodie | duckies |
| 19:54.54 | duckies | yea |
| 19:55.07 | twodie | yeah there is something about dark templar weapon actor |
| 19:55.13 | twodie | unused model |
| 19:55.28 | zenxu | I would be dissapointed if I havent found that out |
| 19:55.42 | zenxu | well blade slash could mean many things |
| 19:56.39 | duckies | I've had a kickass "blade slash shockwave" by using turned scaled shield impact model, but I want to try something sipler :s |
| 19:57.01 | duckies | thing about D3 wizzards blade-something skill |
| 19:57.17 | duckies | when it casts random bladeslashes infront of him ->exactly what I want |
| 19:58.59 | duckies | ah, I should never reread what I type, all those mistakes make me depressed :< |
| 19:59.14 | ThunderLord | hey could anybody help me do a beta test for my game? its pretty fun :D |
| 19:59.33 | duckies | genre? |
| 19:59.45 | zenxu | yes duckies creating something lik that is pretty hard |
| 19:59.50 | Monkalizer | iMisu, i made a loadingscreen fader, that slowly fades away the screen |
| 20:00.07 | zenxu | you could make similar effect by using tons of smaller effects |
| 20:00.12 | zenxu | but it wouldnt be simple then |
| 20:00.45 | duckies | yeah :/ |
| 20:01.13 | Zolden | duckies: do you want blade splash to be attached to a weapon and show up at weapon use? |
| 20:01.33 | Monkalizer | if I change a doodads tint color with triggers & actor messages, how do I reset its tint to normal? |
| 20:01.40 | ThunderLord | its like a enhansed version of Footmen Frenzy |
| 20:02.49 | duckies | Zolden: no, just random blade slash afterimages infront of caster |
| 20:03.01 | duckies | I'll try to find a d3 reference image |
| 20:03.48 | duckies | after I finish bomber game |
| 20:04.40 | Monkalizer | hm found it: neutral tint color is also defined as white tint with 0 occlusion |
| 20:04.51 | ThunderLord | hey Taintedwisp, show me how you get a full loby for ur game |
| 20:04.58 | duckies | zolden: like this http://www.diablowiki.net/Spectral_Blade |
| 20:05.20 | iMisu | Does anyone have a female friend that can speak clear good english |
| 20:05.22 | Taintedwisp | i just stay in lobby for 10-15 minutes and it auto fills |
| 20:05.26 | Taintedwisp | open games list will handle it now |
| 20:05.32 | iMisu | that will do about 300 lines for a tutorial ? |
| 20:05.43 | ThunderLord | dont think so XD |
| 20:05.51 | iMisu | thunder |
| 20:05.53 | ThunderLord | my game is private anyway |
| 20:05.55 | iMisu | dont you have a sister |
| 20:05.59 | ThunderLord | yeah |
| 20:06.05 | iMisu | can she speak clearly? |
| 20:06.11 | ThunderLord | yeah... |
| 20:06.18 | iMisu | will she do tutorial lines for me? |
| 20:06.28 | ThunderLord | lol doubt it |
| 20:06.32 | iMisu | fffffffff |
| 20:06.32 | ThunderLord | she is 12 |
| 20:06.35 | Taintedwisp | I only do it on public game s:P |
| 20:06.36 | QueenG | thunderlord what game u testing? |
| 20:06.38 | Taintedwisp | I test publicly only |
| 20:06.39 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:06.43 | ThunderLord | Starcraft Frenzy |
| 20:06.49 | Taintedwisp | That way I get unbiased testing |
| 20:06.56 | Taintedwisp | mappers == always biased :P |
| 20:07.01 | Taintedwisp | and always critical |
| 20:07.07 | iMisu | thunder, teamplay mode you can now warp players away from your selendria |
| 20:07.07 | zenxu | duckies: iv been brainstorming a bit more |
| 20:07.08 | QueenG | oh okay, I am not in the mood to play frenzy type maps atm |
| 20:07.09 | ThunderLord | well i want people who will give me some feedback |
| 20:07.14 | QueenG | but good luck with your test |
| 20:07.16 | iMisu | and warp ally selendria to you |
| 20:07.19 | zenxu | really troublesome that I almost want to use keyboard + mouse controls |
| 20:07.27 | zenxu | but that would almost mean it needs to be a shooter |
| 20:07.41 | zenxu | just having somekind of aim in action platformer would be pretty esential |
| 20:07.56 | duckies | zenxu, I'm now playing bomber :< |
| 20:08.04 | zenxu | well that fine |
| 20:08.06 | zenxu | Ill go watch tv |
| 20:08.10 | ThunderLord | QueenG u should try it out some time (: i think u will be pleasently surprised, but it does not look like there are enough people atm, maybe later today or tonight |
| 20:08.12 | zenxu | still had to share it :D |
| 20:08.59 | QueenG | okay maybe later today |
| 20:09.00 | QueenG | brb |
| 20:09.41 | Zolden | duckies: mothership missile (if you manage to move it in front of the caster) can look like this |
| 20:10.23 | Zolden | just set its animation speed to 0.001 to avoid appearence of the particles you don't need |
| 20:11.14 | duckies | :o thanks zolden, I'll try it out |
| 20:11.17 | Zolden | mothership missile is a ribon without length restriction, which is good for slashes and tails |
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| 20:14.05 | MasterReY | hello guys |
| 20:14.38 | Monkalizer | hello |
| 20:14.52 | MasterReY | im really frustrated right now because i cant check a players name in my triggers :O |
| 20:15.16 | MasterReY | i cant have a condition "Name of Player 1 = ReY" |
| 20:15.20 | MasterReY | why is that :O |
| 20:15.26 | MasterReY | or am i just stupid right now |
| 20:15.34 | Monkalizer | the players name is stored as text, i believe |
| 20:15.42 | Monkalizer | so you cant use it as a string |
| 20:15.44 | MasterReY | ya i checked for that aswell |
| 20:15.51 | MasterReY | i tried convert text to string |
| 20:15.55 | ThunderLord | hey is anyone available to do a quick beta test? |
| 20:15.57 | MasterReY | but its not there lol |
| 20:16.01 | Monkalizer | i would try to check the players integer id |
| 20:16.07 | Monkalizer | no you cant |
| 20:16.17 | Monkalizer | once you go text you cant go back! |
| 20:16.24 | MasterReY | wat |
| 20:16.26 | MasterReY | T_T |
| 20:16.30 | Dustin|Work | Yeah |
| 20:16.31 | Monkalizer | yep |
| 20:16.36 | Dustin|Work | Names = Text |
| 20:16.37 | MasterReY | hilarious |
| 20:16.40 | Dustin|Work | Text = Locale specific |
| 20:16.42 | MasterReY | well |
| 20:16.48 | Dustin|Work | Can't convert Locale Specifics to Strings |
| 20:16.49 | MasterReY | i want to save a bank but only if im player 1 |
| 20:16.55 | MasterReY | and my name is ReY on bnet |
| 20:16.59 | MasterReY | so how would i do it? |
| 20:16.59 | Dustin|Work | Rey |
| 20:17.01 | Monkalizer | i keep everything in strings until just before i render them |
| 20:17.04 | Dustin|Work | Just use your B.net Id |
| 20:17.13 | MasterReY | bnet id? |
| 20:17.18 | MasterReY | "Handle of Player"? |
| 20:17.22 | Monkalizer | yes |
| 20:17.23 | Dustin|Work | Yes |
| 20:17.32 | Dustin|Work | It's a unique string based on character name/code |
| 20:17.32 | Monkalizer | i think its an integer |
| 20:17.33 | MasterReY | so what is my handle? |
| 20:17.35 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 20:17.42 | Dustin|Work | It's a string |
| 20:17.56 | MasterReY | yeah but i need to know what my handle is in order to check for it |
| 20:17.58 | Monkalizer | you can find it if you check the folder where all battle.net banks are stored |
| 20:18.07 | MasterReY | Handle of Player = ReY#261 or so |
| 20:18.10 | MasterReY | ah |
| 20:18.11 | Dustin|Work | http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/26109-101-guide-to-player-handles/ |
| 20:18.12 | MasterReY | okay |
| 20:18.12 | Dustin|Work | No |
| 20:18.15 | Dustin|Work | Rey |
| 20:18.15 | Dustin|Work | no |
| 20:18.18 | MasterReY | ^^ |
| 20:18.29 | MasterReY | that link is useful |
| 20:18.32 | Dustin|Work | 1 - S2 - 1 - 123456 |
| 20:18.32 | Dustin|Work | 1 (Server ID) - S2 (Game ID) - 1 (Expansion ID??) - 123456 (Incremental ID number). |
| 20:18.38 | Dustin|Work | They look like that |
| 20:19.02 | MasterReY | 2-S2-1-703368 |
| 20:19.04 | MasterReY | thats mine |
| 20:19.15 | MasterReY | so can i use "Handle of Player = 2-S2-1-703368"? |
| 20:19.20 | Dustin|Work | Yes |
| 20:19.34 | MasterReY | nice |
| 20:19.38 | MasterReY | thats what i was looking for |
| 20:19.44 | MasterReY | thanks alot |
| 20:20.04 | MasterReY | one question out of curiosity tho |
| 20:20.15 | MasterReY | why cant i use: |
| 20:20.29 | MasterReY | Name of Player = Convert String to Text("ReY) |
| 20:20.37 | MasterReY | that should just compare 2 texts which should work |
| 20:20.49 | MasterReY | or are texts not comparable? |
| 20:22.12 | Taintedwisp | Hey rey |
| 20:22.54 | Monkalizer | i dont know, but its some form of data type that is not comparable |
| 20:23.05 | MasterReY | Hello wisp |
| 20:23.11 | MasterReY | kk |
| 20:25.49 | Dustin|Work | MasterReY, |
| 20:25.52 | MasterReY | yep? |
| 20:25.54 | Dustin|Work | I explained that already :P |
| 20:26.19 | MasterReY | with this line: Text = Locale specific? |
| 20:26.25 | Dustin|Work | Text entrys = Locale Specific |
| 20:26.29 | Dustin|Work | ya |
| 20:26.33 | MasterReY | kk |
| 20:26.56 | Dustin|Work | It's stupid I know, |
| 20:26.56 | MasterReY | didnt transfer "locale specific" to "not comparable" |
| 20:26.58 | MasterReY | sry :p |
| 20:27.04 | Dustin|Work | Its ok :) |
| 20:32.41 | Monkalizer | is there some way to "untint" a doodad with actor messages= |
| 20:32.42 | Monkalizer | ? |
| 20:34.07 | ThunderLord | Hey Taintedwisp, im beta testing my game, need 1 more player, u wana come? |
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| 20:34.19 | Dustin|Work | Monk, just set the tint back to white |
| 20:34.19 | Monkalizer | im working on an effect that moves lava up |
| 20:34.34 | Monkalizer | when it resets to lower levels all pipes glow yellow |
| 20:34.43 | Monkalizer | and then tunes back to the original tint |
| 20:35.09 | ThunderLord | nvm just filled XD |
| 20:35.43 | Monkalizer | but when the tuning of the tint is complete and its back at white color with hdr multiplier 0, it jumps to be pitch black |
| 20:35.45 | Monkalizer | :( |
| 20:36.01 | Dustin|Work | weird |
| 20:36.06 | Monkalizer | im trying with hds mtpl = 1 |
| 20:36.35 | Monkalizer | jep that works ^^ |
| 20:38.20 | Dustin|Work | wow it's only 2:40ish, fml |
| 20:38.37 | Monkalizer | tired? |
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| 20:42.17 | QueenG | hey sharf, thanks for the help |
| 20:42.22 | QueenG | sharf224 |
| 20:42.44 | QueenG | I was able to allocate more ram to mc by just uninstalling all java and just installing 64-bit |
| 20:43.24 | sharf224 | yeah I thought so |
| 20:43.26 | sharf224 | no problem |
| 20:43.46 | QueenG | still a crappy messy code game but I love it |
| 20:44.07 | sharf224 | yeah lol |
| 20:44.14 | sharf224 | Java itself is inefficient to begin with |
| 20:44.23 | sharf224 | and the engine mc is built on is also terrible lol |
| 20:45.24 | Monkalizer | is it possible to get the actor of a terrain object (like a bridge= |
| 20:45.26 | Monkalizer | *)? |
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| 21:03.32 | Monkalizer | hm, made ugly solution: pasted a doodad bridge on top of it and tinting that instead :P |
| 21:04.02 | Triceron | Woooo! my Art of Blizzzard book came in |
| 21:05.41 | Taintedwisp | sorry thunderlord was playing campaign |
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| 21:10.47 | Taintedwisp | I HATE NINJAS |
| 21:11.04 | Triceron | what are you playing |
| 21:11.07 | Taintedwisp | Always sneaking around stealing my shit.. |
| 21:11.18 | Taintedwisp | Replaying WoL campaign |
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| 21:11.32 | Taintedwisp | On my hard play through I fucked up my research and on the last mission was screwed |
| 21:11.36 | Triceron | there's ninjas in WOoL? |
| 21:11.42 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:11.46 | Taintedwisp | Yeah, got damn reapers... |
| 21:11.53 | Taintedwisp | jumping into my fucking base unseen |
| 21:12.10 | Taintedwisp | sneaky turds |
| 21:12.25 | Triceron | the last last mission? |
| 21:12.37 | Taintedwisp | DAMMIT PANDORA PUT UP A FUCKING LEAVING PAGE WARNING!!! |
| 21:12.40 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:12.53 | Taintedwisp | Nah not that far I just started a few days ago I am only playing like 1-3 missions a day |
| 21:12.59 | Taintedwisp | though today I am playing a bit heav |
| 21:13.18 | Taintedwisp | It was the one with the mercenaries |
| 21:13.30 | Taintedwisp | They destroyed my command center like 10 seconds after I got the mercenary contract |
| 21:13.36 | Triceron | oh the one with mira |
| 21:13.39 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 21:13.51 | Taintedwisp | is mira infested or something? she has a zerg eye |
| 21:13.57 | Triceron | byborg |
| 21:13.59 | Triceron | *cy |
| 21:14.33 | Taintedwisp | ahhhh |
| 21:15.07 | Triceron | well it's an implant, like the bc admiral |
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| 21:38.07 | duckies | zolden, by mothership missile you meant that orb that has a trail of hexagons? |
| 21:39.25 | Monkalizer | im going to create a map where the player should avoid detection. |
| 21:39.26 | Zolden | yes if its name is mothership missile |
| 21:39.39 | sharf224 | I have a trigger that is trying to detect when a player uses an effect...wont let me use triggering player in the action? |
| 21:39.39 | Monkalizer | is there some good way to detect detection, if you see what im aiming for |
| 21:39.46 | Zolden | by setting model's animation speed to minimum value u get rid of the hexagons |
| 21:39.54 | Dustin|Work | You're doing it wrong then Sharf |
| 21:40.01 | sharf224 | lol I got that |
| 21:40.04 | Monkalizer | like: player is detected launches countdown of 3 seconds, in which the units can try to get away |
| 21:40.05 | Dustin|Work | What's your event? |
| 21:40.22 | sharf224 | Environment - Player Any Player uses Effect Train Z Hero |
| 21:40.48 | Dustin|Work | Just set a new Varaible Player = Triggering_Player() |
| 21:40.59 | duckies | those hexes don't look like spashes unfortunately :( |
| 21:41.10 | duckies | oh |
| 21:41.44 | sharf224 | player isn't a variable type |
| 21:41.46 | sharf224 | only group |
| 21:41.54 | Dustin|Work | Integer |
| 21:41.56 | duckies | if I set it to minimum nothing shows at all zolden ;/ |
| 21:41.59 | Dustin|Work | Player is just an integer |
| 21:42.18 | Dustin|Work | So make a new Variable of the TYPE integer, and name it Player |
| 21:42.24 | Zolden | the tail will show up, because ribbon doesn't react on the animation speed parameter |
| 21:42.32 | sharf224 | triggering player is still greyed out |
| 21:42.35 | Zolden | u justh ave to move it to see the tail |
| 21:42.37 | Dustin|Work | Doesnt matter |
| 21:42.39 | Dustin|Work | Use it anyway |
| 21:42.51 | Dustin|Work | Just because it's grey, doesnt mean you cant use it |
| 21:43.02 | duckies | oh damn, you're right |
| 21:43.03 | sharf224 | then why do I need to use the variable? |
| 21:43.06 | duckies | I had to scale them |
| 21:43.08 | sharf224 | can't I just use it in the action? |
| 21:43.44 | Dustin|Work | Cause it's good practice to use Variables |
| 21:43.53 | Dustin|Work | So if you need to change it for whatever reason you just change it in 1 spot |
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| 21:45.04 | iMisu | Where are the ambience sound settings located |
| 21:45.15 | sharf224 | ok that half worked |
| 21:45.17 | iMisu | My map sounds like a city with birds... its a hell hole filled with bones... |
| 21:45.36 | sharf224 | the trigering player is the computer, not the player that clicked the button |
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| 21:48.50 | duckies | damn zolden, this does look very spiky and cool, thank you |
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| 21:49.32 | Zolden | yea, love this model |
| 21:49.34 | sharf224 | queen suggested I make the buttons on the shared building an ability that runs a trigger to create the hero for the player |
| 21:49.55 | sharf224 | but the triggering player is the owner of the building, not the player pushing it |
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| 21:50.04 | KomiscOo | Are circle-shape regions workign for you guys? |
| 21:50.36 | Dustin|Work | KomiscOo, yes. |
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| 21:50.54 | Dustin|Work | sharf224, makes sense |
| 21:51.01 | KomiscOo | my edtor cant save them |
| 21:51.06 | KomiscOo | neither they work when i test |
| 21:51.11 | KomiscOo | both other shaped do. |
| 21:51.28 | Taintedwisp | You know for hard difficulty its no where near as difficult as warcraft 2 |
| 21:51.29 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 21:51.44 | nooblark|work | kom, did you get that map I sent you? |
| 21:51.50 | Taintedwisp | that game was ridiculous haha |
| 21:52.03 | Taintedwisp | it was like you play till lvl 6 then hit a brick wall if you suck ahah |
| 21:54.15 | KomiscOo | Dustin do circle shape regiosn work for you if you combien them with other via "num 0"? |
| 21:56.45 | Dustin|Work | no idea at work atm |
| 22:00.05 | Taintedwisp | I suck with terran hopefully I can do the zerg campaign on brutal I am 100x better with them |
| 22:00.09 | Taintedwisp | and 1000x with protoss :P |
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| 22:05.30 | sharf224 | hmm |
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| 22:06.41 | sharf224 | ok... |
| 22:06.45 | sharf224 | this isn't working |
| 22:08.05 | sharf224 | so how would I detect which presses the button in a shared building? |
| 22:08.14 | sharf224 | which player presses* |
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| 22:15.20 | Monkalizer | how do I make an item (secret documents) pick-up-able? |
| 22:15.39 | Monkalizer | is that some ability or something the unit (item) has? |
| 22:16.14 | Ahli | unit missing inventory? |
| 22:16.43 | Monkalizer | i just want it to dissapear, a bit like the health upgrades and such |
| 22:16.55 | Ahli | else, item is really an item? can you place the class of the item into your inventory? has your inventory a high enough smart priority? |
| 22:17.05 | Monkalizer | hm no then its no item |
| 22:17.17 | Monkalizer | its like those +100 health units |
| 22:17.23 | Monkalizer | with a glowing red cross on it |
| 22:17.25 | Ahli | then you would put a behavior and a periodic search effect on that thing |
| 22:17.45 | Ahli | that might work... I don't know how its done in the campaign |
| 22:17.57 | Monkalizer | kk |
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| 22:21.42 | sharf224 | queen |
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| 22:25.13 | Bounty | :) |
| 22:26.29 | Taintedwisp | GET OUT!!!!!! |
| 22:26.30 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:26.31 | Taintedwisp | whats up |
| 22:26.37 | Bounty | n2m u |
| 22:26.56 | Taintedwisp | Been testing Evo-Frenzy and playing through the campaign |
| 22:26.56 | QueenG | yes sharf224? |
| 22:27.05 | Taintedwisp | its shart224... get it right |
| 22:27.05 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:27.09 | QueenG | same im trying to get all achivements taintedwiship |
| 22:27.10 | sharf224 | it didn't work |
| 22:27.17 | sharf224 | it still creates it for the building owner |
| 22:27.22 | sharf224 | not the player tht pushes the button |
| 22:27.23 | QueenG | hmm, then i dunno |
| 22:27.24 | Taintedwisp | I suck as terran so I cant play on brutal |
| 22:27.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:27.30 | QueenG | sorry sharf224 |
| 22:27.38 | sharf224 | brutal's not all that bad |
| 22:27.54 | Bounty | I am seriously considering returning to map making just to make that concept we were discussing in here yesterday |
| 22:27.54 | Taintedwisp | Last time I played through I got to the last mission and lost because I picked the wrong research |
| 22:28.05 | Taintedwisp | Whats the concept? |
| 22:28.29 | Taintedwisp | also, go play evo-frenzy :P |
| 22:28.45 | sharf224 | >.< how do people make this work? |
| 22:28.52 | Taintedwisp | Welcome to hotel california |
| 22:28.54 | QueenG | hey sharf try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NwxqVvFTKl8 |
| 22:29.04 | Bounty | Sort of like Photon Discs only when something goes through special spheres located on the map or bounces off a wall, depending on the color of the sphere/wall it will apply an effect to the projectile, for example... split into 3 more projectiles |
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| 22:29.31 | Taintedwisp | just apply it as a new mode to phoyoton discs... |
| 22:29.34 | Taintedwisp | photon* |
| 22:29.49 | Bounty | no? lol |
| 22:29.51 | Taintedwisp | Call it power up mode |
| 22:30.01 | sharf224 | I've done that, and it works but |
| 22:30.02 | Bounty | its not power ups |
| 22:30.08 | sharf224 | it requires the players to have units already |
| 22:30.15 | Taintedwisp | It powers up the disc when they hit right? |
| 22:30.21 | Taintedwisp | or am I misunderstanind |
| 22:30.24 | Bounty | it completely changes how they work |
| 22:30.27 | Taintedwisp | misunderstanding |
| 22:30.32 | Bounty | think of it as alternate weapons |
| 22:30.36 | Taintedwisp | okay? |
| 22:30.51 | Taintedwisp | Still a power up :P I have seen a similar concept in quite a few games :P |
| 22:30.59 | Taintedwisp | not on battle.net |
| 22:31.12 | Bounty | i doubt it lol what games? |
| 22:31.38 | Taintedwisp | Trying to recall the name |
| 22:31.47 | Taintedwisp | IT was a regular xbox adventure game was the main one |
| 22:32.10 | Taintedwisp | I WANNA say voodoo vince |
| 22:32.14 | Taintedwisp | but That doesnt sound right |
| 22:32.21 | Bounty | and the environment directly reflected what type of projectile/weapon you throw? |
| 22:32.24 | Taintedwisp | Tak?, hmmm maybe |
| 22:32.39 | Taintedwisp | the enviroment changed the weapon you throw. |
| 22:32.56 | Taintedwisp | Technically it was in a crash bandicoot game too :P |
| 22:32.58 | Taintedwisp | but not really |
| 22:33.12 | Taintedwisp | you would throw a random crate and it would explode into 1 of 4 things |
| 22:33.29 | Bounty | lol... |
| 22:33.36 | Bounty | thats not even close to what im talking about |
| 22:33.49 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 22:34.03 | Taintedwisp | HAH I know one thing it was in, TECHNICALLY, but on a MUCH lesser scale |
| 22:34.08 | Taintedwisp | Sonic and knuckles |
| 22:34.12 | Taintedwisp | In the bonus stage :P |
| 22:34.17 | Taintedwisp | When sonic was hiting the slots |
| 22:34.28 | Taintedwisp | If you hit the yellow it sped you up, and the red even more so |
| 22:34.30 | Bounty | again, not even close |
| 22:34.45 | Bounty | derp |
| 22:34.46 | Taintedwisp | hmmm nvm then i guess |
| 22:35.15 | Bounty | If i actually decide to return to make it you |
| 22:35.20 | Bounty | you'll see |
| 22:35.23 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 22:35.33 | Taintedwisp | Shut up, acting like you wont return :P you go through this every month |
| 22:35.42 | Taintedwisp | you know your going to :)) |
| 22:35.58 | Bounty | I dont KNOW that for a fact |
| 22:36.01 | Taintedwisp | you will come back make something awesome then leave again |
| 22:36.17 | Taintedwisp | bounty you have done this for over a year :P |
| 22:36.20 | Bounty | oh and i forgot |
| 22:36.32 | Bounty | walls and spheres change colors periodically and randomly |
| 22:36.33 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:36.35 | Bounty | and everyone is on hoverboards |
| 22:36.36 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 22:37.01 | Bounty | the hoverboard thing is just so i can finally use attack animations without it looking like ice skating |
| 22:37.06 | Taintedwisp | You should go try evo-frenzy, its not like yours where its not starcraft anymore but its pretty cool, it feels like sc bw custom:P |
| 22:37.16 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:37.32 | Taintedwisp | before sc bw felt old |
| 22:37.39 | Taintedwisp | It feels like a BW custom in 1999 |
| 22:37.41 | Bounty | I hate how i'm like the only one who does shit like that |
| 22:37.46 | Taintedwisp | no your not |
| 22:37.50 | Taintedwisp | Jademus does too :P |
| 22:37.59 | Bounty | Jademus has one map |
| 22:38.02 | Taintedwisp | Oh, dogmai released tofu... its pretty, but boring |
| 22:38.26 | Bounty | If Jademus would create more games then yeah it would be him and i lol |
| 22:38.43 | Taintedwisp | Well Zelda and Almaity seem to have a cool one coming |
| 22:38.48 | Taintedwisp | That starmon |
| 22:39.12 | Taintedwisp | and what about bibendus? |
| 22:39.15 | Taintedwisp | With his hive keeper :P |
| 22:39.19 | Taintedwisp | There are quite a few |
| 22:39.25 | Taintedwisp | the problem is people dont like that too terribly much |
| 22:39.30 | Bounty | They're not games that you see and are like "This is StarcrafT?" |
| 22:39.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:40.00 | Taintedwisp | Mine is the game you see and think "Holy shit I time travelled before blizz sucked"\ |
| 22:40.09 | Bounty | Arcade would be... fun, if it wasnt just me and PHoton Cycles |
| 22:40.10 | Bounty | lol |
| 22:40.12 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: did u try my homm map? |
| 22:40.19 | Zolden | i'm going to test it now |
| 22:40.20 | Taintedwisp | what homm map? |
| 22:40.26 | Zolden | heroes of might and magic |
| 22:40.32 | Taintedwisp | kk ill get online and try |
| 22:40.47 | Taintedwisp | yeah bounty try out Evo-Frenzy, I have done a shit ton of work just to make it feel like BW :P |
| 22:41.23 | Taintedwisp | Next I wanna upgrade mini chop farms to make it feel like Warcraft 2 |
| 22:41.33 | Taintedwisp | How did you do the bright coloring you did in your gnolls vs trolls? |
| 22:41.38 | Taintedwisp | If I can do that then it will be perfect |
| 22:43.27 | Taintedwisp | Zolden I dont have you on friends list message me, IShadowWolf.258 |
| 22:43.59 | Zolden | add me now |
| 22:44.32 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: now we wait for like 10 minutes for more players |
| 22:44.37 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:44.49 | Taintedwisp | Yeah bounty the open games is fixed, I am calling it |
| 22:44.55 | Taintedwisp | Takes 10 minutes for a full lobby |
| 22:44.59 | Taintedwisp | so its working atleast |
| 22:45.24 | QueenG | oh i love HoMM game |
| 22:45.30 | QueenG | I just started playing it a year ago |
| 22:46.36 | Taintedwisp | more then evofrenzy? |
| 22:46.37 | Dustin|Work | A year ago?! |
| 22:46.48 | Dustin|Work | Ive been playing HoMM since fucking Grade School :P |
| 22:47.06 | QueenG | NERRDD |
| 22:47.07 | QueenG | jk |
| 22:47.10 | Taintedwisp | I have been beating up kids who play HoMM since grade school!!!! |
| 22:47.11 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:47.18 | Taintedwisp | brb |
| 22:47.42 | QueenG | im not like you guys who played video games since you were born, i only start playing sc1 in 2007 then wc3 afterwards |
| 22:48.05 | Zolden | QueenG: wanna join a test? |
| 22:48.17 | Dustin|Work | Damn straight Im a nerd lol |
| 22:48.18 | QueenG | Also, Id like you guys to reply to my thread on the bnet forums: http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7979928996 |
| 22:48.35 | QueenG | me to dustin, im low level but im grinding :) |
| 22:48.38 | QueenG | okay zolden ill get on |
| 22:48.40 | Zolden | anyone from us wanna test a bit? |
| 22:49.56 | Taintedwisp | I was born with an atari joystick in hand |
| 22:49.58 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 22:50.07 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ok, we start |
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| 23:23.05 | nooblark|work | roar |
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| 23:27.17 | nooblark|work | fridead |
| 23:31.39 | Dustin | WOOOOO |
| 23:31.43 | Dustin | WEEKEND |
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| 23:43.42 | QueenG | hello Xenox101 |
| 23:59.42 | Bounty | >.< |
| 23:59.48 | Taintedwisp | X<.> |
