| 00:00.01 | motive | nooblark: arrays are easy |
| 00:00.05 | sharf224 | theoretically not necessarily in sc2 |
| 00:00.06 | motive | presets are worthless in GUI |
| 00:00.17 | nooblark | not true motive. |
| 00:00.18 | Taintedwisp | nooblark from what he told me hes REALLY new to the SC2 editor, and he was a SC1 editor before. |
| 00:00.38 | motive | eh my GUI terminology is off |
| 00:00.40 | motive | preset = struct right? |
| 00:00.43 | nooblark | in my zone control map, having presets to my array of zones helps. i can ID a zone by saying A2 |
| 00:00.51 | nooblark | instead of arrayZone[3] |
| 00:01.01 | motive | yeah ok, that's different. |
| 00:01.05 | nooblark | :P |
| 00:01.06 | nooblark | NEWB |
| 00:01.10 | nooblark | go back to jersey |
| 00:01.18 | motive | but arrays are definitely useful, and definitely not a theoretical exercise |
| 00:01.39 | Taintedwisp | jersey smells... just wanted to throw that in there |
| 00:01.43 | motive | Jersey does not fucking smell :| |
| 00:01.54 | Taintedwisp | it smells like cat pee... |
| 00:01.58 | sharf224 | lol |
| 00:02.07 | motive | well fuck you all, I'm going on a business trip to san diego for a week |
| 00:02.19 | Taintedwisp | good you can realize it smells like piss when you come back |
| 00:02.31 | motive | nah I'll miss the amazing mass transit |
| 00:02.39 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 00:02.42 | nooblark | sharf, i'm going to PM you |
| 00:02.51 | motive | don't PM the sharf. :| |
| 00:02.54 | motive | he is wrong about arrays |
| 00:02.56 | motive | can you trust him? |
| 00:03.13 | sharf224 | ok quick question on the spawn selector |
| 00:04.17 | motive | Taintedwisp: I'll say this though, California in general is a lot nicer to live than most of the country =P |
| 00:06.10 | JademusSreg | GUI Records are galaxy structs. Presets are a GUI feature that holds a collection of values and compiles to literal vlaue insertion when the mapscript is compiled. |
| 00:06.18 | motive | yeah I got those mixed up |
| 00:06.25 | motive | I don't use either so the names... they escape me :( |
| 00:06.28 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 00:09.02 | *** join/#sc2mapster Oatin (4dbc42f9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.188.66.249) |
| 00:11.13 | A1win | gah, not sure if my zerg ship icon thingy is a good idea after all, it's not that useful information compared to the UI space it'd take |
| 00:11.36 | motive | Luls. "Optimizing SC2" on an SSD... completes in under a minute. =D |
| 00:11.59 | JademusSreg | Niiice. |
| 00:15.08 | A1win | I guess it'd be fine to just have the zerg ships as one group and then have them do their bad stuff on the players somewhat evenly rather than attaching to a player ship first |
| 00:15.31 | A1win | so the zerg fleet just gives you a general idea what kind of crap you're going to have to deal with |
| 00:15.53 | JademusSreg | Friendly neighborhood alien invasion. |
| 00:16.20 | motive | Man, I love the internet. |
| 00:16.36 | motive | I remember being so excited about 128 KB/s download speeds. Then just being above 1 MB/s. |
| 00:16.46 | Zolden | JademusSreg: laser turrets missed? |
| 00:16.49 | motive | And here I'm chugging along at 8 MB/s and thinking how slow it is. :| |
| 00:17.07 | JademusSreg | That reminds me, motive, have you seen the new Take Command feature in replays? |
| 00:17.24 | motive | I've heard about it. It sounds amazing. |
| 00:17.26 | motive | best RTS feature ever. |
| 00:17.30 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:17.40 | JademusSreg | Best feature of anything ever. |
| 00:17.41 | motive | This is the kind of thing that will hopefully make SC2 a worthy successor to StarCraft. |
| 00:17.53 | A1win | they're upgrading all connections in this area on tuesday, I'll get a 100 Mbps connection with the same cost as this 10 Mbps connection is now D: |
| 00:17.59 | motive | Innovate Blizzard, innovate! |
| 00:18.06 | motive | A1win: Nice! |
| 00:18.20 | A1win | which is 10e/month ;D student apartment benefits |
| 00:18.24 | JademusSreg | Now people can actually test claims like "If had Hellions in minute 5, I would have won, you noob." |
| 00:19.10 | JademusSreg | Sorry, I should have made the less legible for accuracy. |
| 00:19.14 | motive | I have ~60-70 Mbit from Comcast. |
| 00:21.41 | motive | This new UI is soooooooo much better. |
| 00:21.46 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:22.39 | ckSynergy | does anyone here know anything about samsung laptops? |
| 00:24.43 | Taintedwisp | I hate ninjas... |
| 00:24.50 | Taintedwisp | FUCKING SHITTY ASS NINJAS I WANNA BEAT THE FUCK OUTTA THEM |
| 00:25.08 | motive | what about wisps? |
| 00:25.08 | Zolden | throws steel star into Taintedwisp's horehead |
| 00:25.10 | motive | do you hate wisps? |
| 00:25.10 | Taintedwisp | they think they are better then me, just because they "Move with the shadows" |
| 00:25.11 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:25.17 | Taintedwisp | WIsps are awesome..... |
| 00:25.25 | Taintedwisp | ninajs are faggots |
| 00:25.31 | Taintedwisp | ninjas* |
| 00:25.39 | motive | I bet a ninja could kill your wisps. |
| 00:25.47 | Zolden | silently jumps to a tip of a tree |
| 00:25.50 | Taintedwisp | no they cant. |
| 00:25.55 | Taintedwisp | Ninjas cant kill spirits |
| 00:26.23 | motive | Obama can. |
| 00:26.29 | Zolden | kills spirit with one hit of nunchaku |
| 00:27.09 | Taintedwisp | Obama is a PoS... |
| 00:27.19 | Taintedwisp | A long with the previous presidents.. |
| 00:27.27 | motive | He's a superhero. |
| 00:27.45 | Taintedwisp | Clinton set us up for failure, Bush didnt do shit, and obama is making it all worse... |
| 00:27.51 | Taintedwisp | Obama is the moron throwing gasoline on fires |
| 00:28.02 | motive | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVFdAJRVm94 |
| 00:28.05 | motive | But Obama's a superhero. |
| 00:28.14 | Taintedwisp | fucking clinton and his cardboard housing policies. |
| 00:28.31 | motive | But a long voice in the distance uttered, YES, we can! |
| 00:28.40 | motive | He gave good real speeches, never slept, he was real good at the internets! |
| 00:29.14 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 00:29.27 | motive | PIRATES, MR. PRESIDENT. |
| 00:29.29 | Taintedwisp | I feel the world is getting dumber -_-... |
| 00:29.40 | Taintedwisp | damn sheep waiting for slaughter is 99% of america |
| 00:29.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:29.53 | motive | I donated and voted for Obama, will donate and vote for Hillary in 2016. :) |
| 00:30.02 | motive | Interestingly enough, she'll be the most qualified candidate in modern history for the Presidency. |
| 00:30.04 | Taintedwisp | ew... |
| 00:30.15 | Taintedwisp | hillary is worse then Obama... |
| 00:30.26 | Zolden | hellary |
| 00:30.28 | Taintedwisp | Anywayns Biden is going to run with Obama as VP next -_- |
| 00:30.37 | motive | She has the most experience you can have short of being the President. She's been First Lady, Senator, Secretary of State. |
| 00:30.39 | Taintedwisp | Biden has all but said so |
| 00:30.40 | motive | She's the presumptive nominee. |
| 00:30.53 | motive | And she secures the woman vote. |
| 00:30.53 | Taintedwisp | shes fucked up every job shes had -_- |
| 00:31.01 | Taintedwisp | no women DONT like her... |
| 00:31.10 | Taintedwisp | least none that I have met... |
| 00:31.13 | motive | Everyone loves Hillary. She's Hillarious. |
| 00:31.18 | motive | =D |
| 00:31.22 | Taintedwisp | shes a moron.... |
| 00:31.32 | Taintedwisp | We need to get an independent in.. |
| 00:31.37 | Taintedwisp | fuck REP and DEm |
| 00:31.49 | Taintedwisp | both are the same corrupt party being led by the federal reserve |
| 00:31.57 | Taintedwisp | they are not americans they are globalist |
| 00:32.12 | motive | Nah, she's very intelligent. Have to give her credit. She's one of the most accomplished statesmen in modern times. She's already secured her place in the history books for sure. |
| 00:32.16 | motive | Also I don't think that's how it works... |
| 00:32.18 | Taintedwisp | no she isnt... |
| 00:32.20 | motive | We kind of control the Federal Reserve. |
| 00:32.24 | Taintedwisp | no we dont.. |
| 00:32.30 | Taintedwisp | We dont control them.. |
| 00:32.38 | Taintedwisp | They have more power then the US government.. |
| 00:32.44 | motive | Not really true. |
| 00:32.46 | Taintedwisp | dinner time |
| 00:33.09 | JademusSreg | It is evident to everyone democracy has failed. The people demand change! The people demand the institution of an acrocracy. |
| 00:33.39 | motive | The people demand a new season of The West Wing. |
| 00:33.43 | motive | http://www.youtube.com/watch?annotation_id=annotation_618989&feature=iv&src_vid=PBCTtnRXIjI&v=W6sNaArV_uw |
| 00:34.31 | JademusSreg | Only those who are The Tallers have the positive qualities we assume they have to act in our best interests. |
| 00:34.50 | motive | Hey, Obama's fairly tall. |
| 00:34.54 | motive | It all works. |
| 00:35.52 | JademusSreg | (In addition to fun wordplay with "acrocracy", it's also an Invader Zim reference.) |
| 00:36.12 | motive | So, Bartlet 2016? |
| 00:36.26 | motive | Maybe Stewart/Colbert 2016? |
| 00:37.09 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 00:37.38 | motive | Or! |
| 00:37.43 | motive | Jeb Bush/George W. Bush 2016! |
| 00:37.45 | motive | ROUND TWO! |
| 00:37.48 | motive | s/TWO/THREE! |
| 00:38.00 | motive | I mean what could go wrong? |
| 00:38.10 | motive | Bush/Bush 2016! |
| 00:38.48 | Kubi | You know it's a productive day when you spend all dying designing the Base Defense system |
| 00:39.10 | Kubi | and when I mean system, I mean a unit. When I mean unit, just a modified Photon Cannon created from scratch. |
| 00:39.11 | JademusSreg | I'm on the Neil Patrick Harris / Sue Sylvester ticket. |
| 00:39.21 | motive | That could work, too. |
| 00:39.21 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 00:45.00 | JademusSreg | I wonder if anyone has played with the newly introduced Herd and Herd Node data. |
| 00:45.55 | motive | Herd Data? |
| 00:46.14 | JademusSreg | Yeah. Introduced in 2.0.4, and probably in HotS beta, too. |
| 00:46.21 | motive | What is it? |
| 00:46.54 | JademusSreg | Herd Nodes are completely empty, so they seem to function simply as identifiers. |
| 00:47.05 | motive | o_O |
| 00:47.36 | JademusSreg | The Herd data, though, has level array, node search radius, a node arraym position bias and speed limit. |
| 00:47.49 | motive | Interesting.. |
| 00:47.59 | JademusSreg | It's either for navigation, AI, or analysis. |
| 00:49.35 | motive | Damnit I need a new mouse |
| 00:49.36 | *** join/#sc2mapster Triceron (1854e5d2@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.84.229.210) |
| 00:49.41 | motive | My mouse's right click is stuck... clicked |
| 00:49.47 | JademusSreg | The Herd data also has a Closest To field, with option presets Closest To Listener and Closest To Camera. |
| 00:50.06 | motive | ah god this sucks |
| 00:50.06 | JademusSreg | That's interesting. |
| 00:50.15 | motive | Ok, buying a new mouse after this game haha |
| 00:50.23 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
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| 00:51.06 | JademusSreg | Also, unit actors have Movement Herd Node in their UI subgroup. |
| 00:52.41 | JademusSreg | So it seems like a feature to assist in collating and analyzing unit activity to the benefit of esports commentary. |
| 00:52.42 | Taintedwisp | obama is a bitch |
| 00:52.43 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:53.40 | JademusSreg | The Herd API is basically blank, so it would also appear the feature is incomplete. |
| 00:53.52 | motive | Maybe it's used in the campaign |
| 00:54.06 | JademusSreg | I am skeptical. |
| 00:54.21 | motive | I am Barack Obamanator. |
| 00:54.27 | Taintedwisp | then your a bitch |
| 00:54.28 | JademusSreg | Or rather, I doubt it would be so incomplete if it were. |
| 00:54.28 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 00:55.27 | Taintedwisp | Vail you get it? |
| 00:55.52 | A1win | if I hide a Panel, does it hide its components too? |
| 00:55.57 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 00:56.02 | A1win | cool |
| 00:56.06 | Taintedwisp | 99.999999991% chance |
| 00:56.13 | JademusSreg | In fact, modifying panel properties can have some other amusing consequences. |
| 00:56.17 | Taintedwisp | that leaves a .0000000009% chance of error |
| 00:56.55 | Taintedwisp | x10 |
| 00:56.58 | JademusSreg | Tinting a panel will cause its contents to tint, iirc. And rotating a panel will cause the images inside to remain in place but rotate as well, last I tested. |
| 00:57.26 | A1win | :x |
| 00:58.17 | JademusSreg | But yeah, panels are excellent. All the utility of dialogs but all panel properties are player instanced. |
| 00:58.36 | JademusSreg | So there's little reason to ever use more than one or a few dialogs. |
| 00:58.38 | Taintedwisp | AND AND IF YOU PUT A PORN PICTURE INSIDE THE PANEL???? |
| 00:58.57 | Taintedwisp | LOL just create a new map and have a single dialog that says click for titties... |
| 00:58.58 | JademusSreg | It would be clipped unless scaled to match the panel dimensions. |
| 00:58.59 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 00:59.35 | A1win | yeah I haven't used dialogs for the purpose of a panel ever since they added panels |
| 00:59.44 | A1win | but I sometimes forget to use them conveniently |
| 00:59.52 | Taintedwisp | a1win make the map I just described |
| 00:59.53 | A1win | like for lists that consist of multiple dialog items |
| 01:00.44 | A1win | that's what I've been making all along |
| 01:02.12 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:02.28 | A1win | O_o I just crashed the game |
| 01:02.35 | A1win | by changing to fullscreen windowed |
| 01:02.53 | A1win | and my fps was insanely low |
| 01:03.01 | A1win | before I did that |
| 01:03.06 | Taintedwisp | its because your not a pimp like me |
| 01:03.18 | Taintedwisp | JademusSreg, wanna play some HoTS beta>? |
| 01:03.25 | A1win | it didn't behave like that before :X |
| 01:03.55 | JademusSreg | Busy. |
| 01:03.55 | A1win | now the fps is up again |
| 01:04.04 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 01:04.13 | Taintedwisp | Zolden how about you ? HoTS beta? |
| 01:04.26 | Zolden | i'm going sleep |
| 01:04.42 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 01:04.45 | Zolden | it's as late as was when jesus was hangging on a cross |
| 01:04.49 | Taintedwisp | Dont forget my hero glow tomorrow :P |
| 01:05.08 | Taintedwisp | sooo its mid day? |
| 01:05.10 | Zolden | i never forget |
| 01:05.15 | Zolden | unless i do weed |
| 01:05.25 | Zolden | and i do weed badly these days |
| 01:05.26 | A1win | anyway, see those mutalisks: http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/j/SC2%202013-02-23%2003-04-20-47.jpg thinking of putting each "add" type there as an icon, and a number to lower right corner of the icon to indicate how many of that type of adds the Leviathan has |
| 01:05.50 | A1win | and they basically define how much damage the ships are going to get and how many zerg will be boarding them |
| 01:05.56 | A1win | or rather, indicate |
| 01:06.06 | A1win | but is it clear enough D: |
| 01:06.18 | A1win | or can it be made clearer |
| 01:07.32 | A1win | I burned my mouth to pizza ;[ |
| 01:10.31 | Triceron | :( |
| 01:10.52 | JademusSreg | http://youtu.be/sdwzZmDjpZs |
| 01:10.56 | JademusSreg | Smile. =D |
| 01:12.03 | JademusSreg | Behaviors also have herd nodes. |
| 01:13.07 | JademusSreg | So behaviors and unit actors have herd nodes. |
| 01:17.20 | JademusSreg | I don't see anything in the editor for displaying herds visually, so besides being NYI, I strongly suspect it is a feature to help commentators and/or analysis. |
| 01:18.08 | JademusSreg | Rather like tagging animals in a wildlife reserve with radiotransmitters. |
| 01:18.17 | A1win | hah, I can also give adds to the battlecruiser, that kill some of the zerg adds |
| 01:18.35 | Triceron | That's a cool interface Ahli |
| 01:18.44 | A1win | after the merc players clear the ship hangar inside the battlecruiser |
| 01:19.12 | Triceron | er, a1win |
| 01:19.34 | A1win | yeah, been working on that one list for like 5 days X_x ...well I've been out too but anyway |
| 01:19.51 | A1win | I can't even show the functionality with screenshots :[ |
| 01:20.19 | A1win | selecting a ship on the list changes your camera bounds to that ship's interiors on the map |
| 01:20.25 | JademusSreg | So has anyone tested the light and water region actors added in 1.5? |
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| 01:25.50 | Taintedwisp | HELL NO BITCH!! |
| 01:25.51 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:26.00 | Taintedwisp | < just a hateful person |
| 01:26.24 | JademusSreg | I notice 2 Herd-related actor messages. |
| 01:26.34 | JademusSreg | And an actor event term IsUnderwater. |
| 01:27.59 | Taintedwisp | SHHHHHH |
| 01:28.01 | JademusSreg | I'm surprised no one has investigated there data additions while I was away. |
| 01:28.02 | Taintedwisp | This is a library |
| 01:28.09 | JademusSreg | *these |
| 01:29.52 | A1win | mmf these icons might be too small for having a number in a corner |
| 01:30.45 | Triceron | are Herds new? |
| 01:30.50 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 01:30.55 | Triceron | sweeeet |
| 01:30.58 | JademusSreg | Added in 2.0.4 |
| 01:31.09 | Triceron | so you can create squads of units |
| 01:31.14 | JademusSreg | Ah, not so fast. |
| 01:31.23 | JademusSreg | It's not clear what Herds do. |
| 01:31.34 | JademusSreg | And there's no API for it yet. |
| 01:31.39 | Triceron | just that they exist |
| 01:31.41 | Taintedwisp | herds go into a building and make bacon... DUH |
| 01:31.52 | Triceron | no, that's nerds |
| 01:31.56 | JademusSreg | HAh. |
| 01:32.12 | Taintedwisp | but bacon == good |
| 01:32.46 | Taintedwisp | damn nerds got me doing ==.... |
| 01:35.07 | JademusSreg | Alright. So not all behaviors have herd nodes. Buffs do. |
| 01:35.46 | JademusSreg | Yes, only buffs have the herd node field. |
| 01:35.50 | JademusSreg | Interesting. |
| 01:36.01 | JademusSreg | Sounds like it may be worth testing. |
| 01:42.18 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/j/SC2%202013-02-23%2003-41-19-07.jpg slightly larger mutalisks, maybe those will do... |
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| 01:54.24 | A1win | http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/j/SC2%202013-02-23%2003-53-57-49.jpg |
| 01:54.31 | A1win | clear enough numbers o: |
| 01:55.05 | LilFun1too | Is there any way where I can have actors react to other actors touching them at certain points? ie: Blade goes through neck, creates blood splatter on neck? How would I go about this? |
| 01:55.39 | Dustin|Home | You wouldnt |
| 01:57.37 | JademusSreg | I am rather skeptical the engine supports that level of detail. I wouldn't rule it out entirely given the addition of a physics system. |
| 01:58.24 | JademusSreg | But I doubt that much of the graphic API shit is exposed. |
| 01:58.44 | Dustin|Home | I guess we do have actor dynamic colision now with the physics. |
| 01:58.57 | Dustin|Home | But yaI don't seeing that offering what we think it would |
| 01:59.05 | JademusSreg | There;s nothing stopping you from rigging it up yourself custom for each and every model, though. |
| 01:59.26 | LilFun1too | Yeah looking for some way I don't have to do that |
| 02:00.05 | JademusSreg | Even then, it will look pretty rough. |
| 02:00.38 | LilFun1too | If I control the angle of the camera and have the units stationary could I detect it through point of mouse (Mouse controlling where the blade hits) |
| 02:01.54 | Dustin|Home | Theres no real way for that level of colision detection |
| 02:02.09 | Dustin|Home | that Im aware of |
| 02:02.12 | JademusSreg | You couldn't get the focal point, especially not off asynchronous data like actors. |
| 02:02.16 | motive | back |
| 02:02.18 | motive | got my new mouse :) |
| 02:02.26 | JademusSreg | Congrats, motive. <3 |
| 02:02.35 | motive | I CAN RIGHT CLICK AGAIN! |
| 02:02.59 | A1win | I can imagine that being useful |
| 02:03.40 | A1win | I should probably sleep xO |
| 02:03.54 | JademusSreg | But yeah, long story short, Lil, what you want to accomplish may be possible (bloody spurts from a neck enbladening), but not the way you want to do it. |
| 02:04.17 | LilFun1too | Alright thanks |
| 02:04.22 | motive | tl;dr: when in doubt, add more explosions |
| 02:04.25 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 02:04.30 | motive | they won't see blood spurts if things explode |
| 02:04.34 | motive | more explosions! |
| 02:04.35 | LilFun1too | lol |
| 02:04.42 | JademusSreg | It's true, sadly. |
| 02:04.49 | motive | I'm always right. |
| 02:05.21 | motive | Except when I'm left. |
| 02:05.27 | JademusSreg | Sandbags in C&C games? Explode. Infantry? Explode. Cactuses? Explode. |
| 02:05.35 | JademusSreg | Everything in C&C explodes. |
| 02:05.58 | *** join/#sc2mapster Fylur (57a173ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.87.161.115.202) |
| 02:05.59 | motive | I conquered the shit out of that cactus. |
| 02:07.26 | Fylur | how do i prevent a tank from automatically unsieging when a unit gets closed? |
| 02:07.42 | Fylur | *close |
| 02:08.12 | motive | Simple, blow it up. |
| 02:08.17 | motive | They'll never noticed it was unsieged when it explodes. |
| 02:08.38 | Fylur | :) |
| 02:08.51 | Fylur | enable script control? |
| 02:08.56 | motive | That or just remove the command cart ability... you know, whatever. |
| 02:09.03 | motive | If you want to do the shitty way. |
| 02:09.56 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-artestru |
| 02:09.59 | purl | blizz-artestru <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 1d 1h 8m 54s ago, saying: 'That's not my department. :)'. |
| 02:10.56 | A1win | this map feels better and better the more I implement stuff xO |
| 02:11.18 | Dogmai | I need a girl |
| 02:11.19 | A1win | and it felt awesome to begin with |
| 02:11.33 | Dogmai | This is the problem with not knowing any white girls |
| 02:11.45 | Dogmai | Every girl I know has too strong of an accent |
| 02:12.35 | motive | Lol |
| 02:12.38 | motive | Such a dilemma. |
| 02:12.43 | JademusSreg | is so, so pretty. |
| 02:13.56 | motive | OMG JADEMUS!!! I AM SO MUCH PRETTIER AND YOU KNOW IT |
| 02:14.02 | A1win | this must be the best place to look for a girl |
| 02:14.09 | motive | yes it is |
| 02:14.10 | Oatin | Does anyone know how to remove the AI Build Attribute of Computers in a Lobby? |
| 02:14.11 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. |
| 02:14.13 | Oatin | This is so annoying |
| 02:14.30 | motive | Welcome to #sc2mapsther. Where you find... her... for your map...? |
| 02:14.44 | motive | IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN |
| 02:14.46 | motive | ;) ;) |
| 02:15.04 | Dogmai | Hey jade wanna get on skype and sing that with me |
| 02:15.07 | Dogmai | I feel pretty |
| 02:15.10 | Dogmai | ..... oh so pretty |
| 02:15.20 | JademusSreg | Meow. |
| 02:17.33 | JademusSreg | I am https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/SoSoPretty.jpg |
| 02:17.52 | JademusSreg | goes all Buffalo Bill on his own ass. |
| 02:18.29 | motive | Alright, this mouse sucks |
| 02:18.31 | motive | Time to buy a new one. |
| 02:18.36 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 02:18.49 | motive | God it's hard to find a decent one |
| 02:18.50 | A1win | you also need to be able to left click? |
| 02:18.50 | JademusSreg | Just buy all the mice. |
| 02:19.00 | motive | The feeling of a click is all off in this mouse |
| 02:19.02 | motive | It's too hard. |
| 02:19.18 | LilFun1too | Thats what was said at the last rape |
| 02:19.28 | A1win | I'm happy with my logitech MX-510 |
| 02:20.27 | nooblark | jade stop posting pictures of yourself, you almost cracked the glass on my monitor. |
| 02:20.44 | JademusSreg | Also, in case you missed it earlier, here's my guide to navigating SC2 data structures. http://pastebin.com/kcNL5pkE |
| 02:21.35 | nooblark | that is not informative. |
| 02:21.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Exaken|2 (~kvirc@c9186.upc-c.chello.nl) |
| 02:21.45 | motive | Hey |
| 02:21.48 | motive | It's on pastebin |
| 02:21.52 | motive | It MUST be informative. |
| 02:21.58 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 02:22.17 | Dogmai | jade .... |
| 02:22.19 | JademusSreg | I especially enjoyed All Credit Card Numbers. |
| 02:22.19 | Dogmai | how old are you |
| 02:22.35 | JademusSreg | 27, iirc |
| 02:22.44 | Vail | im here |
| 02:22.45 | Dogmai | And how old are you kids |
| 02:22.55 | motive | 21 |
| 02:23.00 | JademusSreg | 8 and 3 |
| 02:23.04 | ckSynergy | Too old |
| 02:23.06 | Dogmai | Makes sense |
| 02:24.06 | JademusSreg | (Though the elder is not a product of my gametes.) |
| 02:25.17 | motive | JademusSreg, I'd just like to apologize to you. |
| 02:25.30 | motive | On behalf of the United States of America, I apologize for your state having a border with Mississippi. |
| 02:25.42 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 02:25.45 | LilFun1too | Can anyone give me some quick feedback http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/terrain/49217-first-terrain-test |
| 02:25.46 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 02:26.29 | JademusSreg | My presence in Tennessee (or anywhere, really) is circumstantial. =D |
| 02:26.33 | motive | LilFun1too: The height of the last wall is off. |
| 02:26.43 | motive | And one fence. But I'm a perfectionist. It looks interesting |
| 02:26.48 | ckSynergy | motive: thats not a bug, thats a "feature" |
| 02:26.57 | motive | Fuck features, I'm a perfectionist. |
| 02:27.09 | motive | JademusSreg: My presence is required me of everywhere. |
| 02:27.15 | motive | I let down 48 states, unfortunately. |
| 02:27.15 | ckSynergy | you find me one straight fence in america thats older than 6 weeks lol |
| 02:27.27 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 02:27.42 | JademusSreg | motive is Joe Black. |
| 02:27.44 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 02:28.01 | motive | Yes, I am Bradd Pitt. |
| 02:28.12 | JademusSreg | Oh yeaaaah. |
| 02:28.14 | motive | I guess LilFun1too didn't like my criticism. |
| 02:28.18 | motive | SOME PEOPLE CANT TAKE THE HEAT |
| 02:28.25 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 02:28.34 | ckSynergy | MY FENCEEEEE NOOOOOO NOT MY FENCE! |
| 02:28.37 | ckSynergy | THE HORROR! |
| 02:28.52 | JademusSreg | I didn't notice the request for feedback over the deafening roar of our torrid romance. |
| 02:28.53 | motive | If you can't take the heat, you should probably see a doctor, because it's 37 degrees outside here. |
| 02:31.00 | *** join/#sc2mapster Shawn|Rawr (~chatzilla@ip70-170-21-119.lv.lv.cox.net) |
| 02:31.14 | motive | LOL |
| 02:31.35 | motive | verne.freenode.net is in New Jersey |
| 02:31.38 | motive | Same datacenter I put my server in. |
| 02:31.40 | motive | Hahahahaha |
| 02:32.05 | motive | Welcome to New Jersey, Taintedwisp. |
| 02:32.05 | motive | slaps Taintedwisp around a bit with a large trout |
| 02:33.03 | motive | http://www.electrical-designer-guide.com/images/new-jersey-job-openings.gif |
| 02:33.08 | Vail | sends a bear to eat the trout * |
| 02:34.13 | ckSynergy | sends a trout to eat Vail |
| 02:34.24 | motive | sends a bear to eat ckSynergy. |
| 02:34.34 | Vail | 's bear eats the trout |
| 02:34.51 | motive | sends a New Jersey to pollute the water and kill all the trout. |
| 02:34.52 | ckSynergy | noo my trout! |
| 02:34.53 | motive | There. |
| 02:34.54 | motive | The end. |
| 02:35.31 | Kubi | ckSynergy |
| 02:35.37 | ckSynergy | hmm? |
| 02:35.38 | Kubi | Giev me ur SC2Layout :P |
| 02:35.42 | Kubi | For invetory |
| 02:35.44 | ckSynergy | what layout? |
| 02:35.46 | ckSynergy | oh lol |
| 02:35.50 | Kubi | Or permission to use it |
| 02:35.51 | ckSynergy | its just the default |
| 02:35.54 | Kubi | I know |
| 02:35.59 | Kubi | but I want to save me some time |
| 02:36.06 | ckSynergy | yea, go for it |
| 02:36.15 | Kubi | Also |
| 02:36.20 | ckSynergy | personally, id do single row, but people bitched |
| 02:36.35 | Kubi | mmm |
| 02:36.48 | Kubi | You just assign different class types for the weapon/armor/energy slots? |
| 02:36.50 | Kubi | I like that idea |
| 02:38.08 | ckSynergy | something like that |
| 02:41.15 | JademusSreg | Tinkered with Herd data a bit. Haven't yet noticed any effect when applied to units. |
| 02:41.44 | Kubi | Doesnt it detect when units are nearby |
| 02:41.48 | Kubi | like in a cluster |
| 02:42.04 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 02:42.14 | Shawn|Rawr | P |
| 02:42.15 | motive | JademusSreg: Is it just me or does this UI still feel a bit off? |
| 02:42.20 | motive | It's a lot better, but somethign's still missing |
| 02:42.33 | Shawn|Rawr | Pretty sure thats not it kubi |
| 02:42.41 | Kubi | WELL FUCK ME |
| 02:42.45 | Kubi | RIGHT?! |
| 02:42.45 | JademusSreg | The strangely thick button frames? |
| 02:42.46 | Kubi | RIGHT GUYS!? |
| 02:42.52 | JademusSreg | Right. |
| 02:43.01 | Kubi | JademusSreg is out of my basement again. |
| 02:43.01 | Kubi | Mmm |
| 02:43.03 | motive | JademusSreg: I think it has to do with the size of chats. In SC2/WC3 chat was a primary focus... then you went into games. But one way or another you were ALWAYS somewhere. |
| 02:43.06 | Shawn|Rawr | No, I'm straight kubi |
| 02:43.09 | motive | So the game feels emptier still. |
| 02:43.22 | motive | SC1* |
| 02:43.53 | JademusSreg | I mistook the first invite to a group as a game invite and declined reflexivley. |
| 02:43.59 | JademusSreg | *reflexively. |
| 02:44.33 | ckSynergy | lol |
| 02:45.05 | Taintedwisp | motive... |
| 02:45.09 | Taintedwisp | jersey smells like pee |
| 02:45.22 | motive | Taintedwisp: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_wTKEFIKSrvg/Sv5mezMszlI/AAAAAAAAOoQ/bo2_oE-0Epw/s400/sign___welcome_to_new_york11.jpg |
| 02:48.08 | Taintedwisp | So vail you get that thing working? |
| 02:48.25 | Vail | to a degree |
| 02:49.44 | Kubi | How about working to get a degree. |
| 02:49.45 | Kubi | SICK BURN |
| 02:49.55 | Vail | i have one in graphic design |
| 02:50.02 | Vail | so suck it bitch |
| 02:50.48 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:51.23 | Taintedwisp | I have a degree in pimpin |
| 02:51.32 | Vail | and it aint easy |
| 02:51.45 | Taintedwisp | phd in pimpology, thats the study of pipmpin |
| 02:53.09 | Taintedwisp | Requires 3 majors, 1. Economics(Bitches gotta give that money or get slapped), 2. Martial Arts(gotta slap a bitch she gets out of line) and 3. Pharmaceutics (Bitches also be selling my drugs) |
| 02:53.41 | motive | :| |
| 02:54.10 | nooblark | i know motive |
| 02:54.16 | motive | reading that was painful |
| 02:54.23 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 02:54.34 | Taintedwisp | i was making it up as I went... let it go :P |
| 02:54.42 | motive | economics? |
| 02:54.45 | motive | really? |
| 02:54.48 | motive | REALLY? |
| 02:55.02 | Taintedwisp | yes |
| 02:55.08 | Vail | hah |
| 02:55.13 | Taintedwisp | Bitches be selling a product... |
| 02:55.22 | Vail | and a service |
| 02:55.26 | Taintedwisp | fo sho |
| 02:56.28 | motive | :||||||||||||| |
| 02:56.32 | Taintedwisp | Economics is what gets you, not the fact that I said 3 majors... |
| 02:56.37 | motive | yup. |
| 02:57.27 | Taintedwisp | like I said motive thats for the PH.D in Pimpology |
| 02:57.30 | Vail | besides i believe its pharmacology |
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| 02:57.43 | Taintedwisp | More then likely vail |
| 02:57.44 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:59.49 | Taintedwisp | tis that the final version vail? |
| 03:00.30 | Vail | no but i dont feel up to working any more right now i will get back to it more |
| 03:00.34 | Vail | later |
| 03:01.15 | Taintedwisp | okay then I am going to test yours and then start working on the map |
| 03:01.31 | Vail | ok |
| 03:02.08 | Vail | oh i have modifed wound so that it gives its full corret buff and consume as well |
| 03:02.16 | Vail | so we dont need consume anymore |
| 03:02.24 | Taintedwisp | ZERG SHOTGUN YOU... |
| 03:02.28 | Taintedwisp | wait Consume? |
| 03:02.40 | Vail | it was the life drain on damage |
| 03:02.43 | Taintedwisp | I thought you were replacing infused Carapace since its useless due to the fractional Energy? |
| 03:03.09 | Vail | no i changed the energy way down because it uses energy naturally |
| 03:03.40 | Vail | i figure it could cost 5% enegery instead of what it is now |
| 03:04.41 | Taintedwisp | ah ok |
| 03:04.46 | Taintedwisp | Dude, this this is laggy as hell :P |
| 03:04.58 | Vail | what are your settings? |
| 03:05.07 | Vail | it dosent lag for me |
| 03:05.55 | Taintedwisp | all low |
| 03:06.02 | Vail | odd |
| 03:06.19 | Vail | are you running on minium required specs? |
| 03:06.29 | Taintedwisp | a bit higher then minimum |
| 03:06.49 | Vail | im barely scratching minimum and it doesnt lag |
| 03:07.12 | Taintedwisp | my frames drop for 50 to like 15... |
| 03:07.26 | Vail | weird |
| 03:07.28 | AngusMcSwine | So like, with resources, you have paramatres you can fill in on a unit in the properties. |
| 03:07.36 | AngusMcSwine | Basically, I want to make the size of a unit such a paramater? |
| 03:07.50 | AngusMcSwine | In this case, my unit is a structure which basically functins as a permanent psi storm. |
| 03:08.06 | AngusMcSwine | Can I like fill in the radius in the properties like you can fill in resources on minerals? |
| 03:09.30 | Taintedwisp | So are there any problems you are having with it? |
| 03:11.57 | iMisu | hey kiddies |
| 03:12.08 | AngusMcSwine | Taintedwisp, I am a lesbian feminazi |
| 03:12.18 | Taintedwisp | dont care loser |
| 03:12.26 | Taintedwisp | hey imisu or is this taz? |
| 03:12.34 | iMisu | iMisu dont use IRC anymore |
| 03:12.38 | iMisu | Misu * |
| 03:12.39 | iMisu | lol |
| 03:13.43 | Ahli | I dropped during loading screen because of my internet disconnect |
| 03:13.48 | Ahli | or not hmm |
| 03:15.37 | Ahli | now it continues loading... |
| 03:18.12 | AngusMcSwine | Ahli, surely you know this. |
| 03:18.20 | AngusMcSwine | How I can do this? |
| 03:18.30 | AngusMcSwine | du alweißender Deutscher |
| 03:18.47 | Ahli | just ask |
| 03:18.57 | Ahli | too much meta information |
| 03:19.16 | AngusMcSwine | Ahli, well like if you press enter on a unit you get the properties screen right? |
| 03:19.28 | AngusMcSwine | And like with resources you can enter values of how much resources a mineral patch cntains |
| 03:20.06 | Ahli | in terrain editor? |
| 03:20.10 | AngusMcSwine | I wonder if it's possible to be able to get such a field in the prperties screen for the size of my storm effect |
| 03:20.11 | Ahli | yes |
| 03:20.12 | AngusMcSwine | YEah |
| 03:20.24 | AngusMcSwine | I have this neutral building which is basically a neutral psi storm |
| 03:20.49 | AngusMcSwine | I gave it the storm model and did the behaviour, I need to make the search radius and the model scale depend on this variable in some way, is that possible in the data editor? |
| 03:21.17 | Ahli | uhm, traffic signals in the campaign assets use something... they have scale and are units... |
| 03:21.30 | Ahli | use whatever they use :D |
| 03:21.38 | AngusMcSwine | Ahli, aber du bist alweißend |
| 03:21.43 | AngusMcSwine | Don't know what to search for? |
| 03:21.49 | AngusMcSwine | Well, I'll reverse engineer then. |
| 03:21.56 | JademusSreg | Search Area effects have a flag Offset By Radius. |
| 03:22.15 | Ahli | he has a unit that looks like a psistorm |
| 03:22.25 | JademusSreg | Which effectively adds the source unit's radius to the search area. |
| 03:22.29 | Ahli | oh wiat, another line |
| 03:22.38 | Ahli | forget everything I said, I'm sleepy |
| 03:22.39 | AngusMcSwine | IT's a unit made frm scratch that duplicates the storm effect and just has the model, it's a flying structure technically. |
| 03:23.03 | JademusSreg | So setting the area radius to 0 and enabling the aforementioned flag will cause the area to only catch units inside the caster unit radius. |
| 03:23.04 | AngusMcSwine | JademusSreg, well, the unit has no colission radius currently. |
| 03:23.17 | AngusMcSwine | If that is what you mean by radius |
| 03:23.22 | AngusMcSwine | You can walk through it |
| 03:23.31 | JademusSreg | Give it a radius and disable the Ground flag. |
| 03:23.42 | Ahli | yes, but it can have no collision while having a radius |
| 03:23.47 | AngusMcSwine | And you can then set the unit radius in the properties window? |
| 03:23.58 | Ahli | no |
| 03:24.02 | AngusMcSwine | Because that's the entire purpose, to easily change that. |
| 03:24.17 | JademusSreg | Catalog. |
| 03:24.22 | AngusMcSwine | Because now I have 4 different units all with a different radius, it'd be cool if there was just one which I could quickly resize |
| 03:25.14 | Ahli | can you really set the radius in catalog? would have assumed that that would be protected |
| 03:25.28 | JademusSreg | Just guessing. |
| 03:25.36 | AngusMcSwine | What's catalog? |
| 03:26.14 | Ahli | basically all data things are stored per player in a catalog that you can read from and save into with triggers |
| 03:26.23 | JademusSreg | If I had to research all my advice, instead my usual intuitive handwaving, I'd never get anything done. |
| 03:26.39 | AngusMcSwine | And that can be set in the properties thing you get when you press enter? |
| 03:27.02 | Ahli | no, you won't be able to alter the radius in that |
| 03:27.15 | AngusMcSwine | Well, that is the entire purpose of the endeavour. |
| 03:27.29 | Ahli | if you want to control that in terrain editor for whatever reason, you need to do use 4 units |
| 03:27.51 | AngusMcSwine | If you can change the amount of resources a mineral patch has in that, surely you can change the size of a unit? |
| 03:28.06 | AngusMcSwine | Well, why don't you have t make new mineral patch units in the data editor for 750 resource patches? |
| 03:28.46 | Ahli | because resources left on a unit is saved in the unit and not for all units of that type |
| 03:28.46 | JademusSreg | Nope. |
| 03:29.48 | AngusMcSwine | So why can't I save this on the unit? |
| 03:30.43 | JademusSreg | Radius is defined by the unit type and is not a separately maintained value in memory? |
| 03:31.07 | AngusMcSwine | Like I said radius is ireelvant |
| 03:31.22 | AngusMcSwine | I have 2 values which concern, the scale of the model and the radius of the search behaviour. |
| 03:31.34 | AngusMcSwine | The radius of the unit doesn't need to change, currently it's 0. |
| 03:32.23 | JademusSreg | In that case' you'll be sending actor messages to rescale the actor. |
| 03:32.29 | AngusMcSwine | I mean, surely it would be possible to for instance make a mineral patch which emits a psi storm and that storm shrinks and shrinks the more minerals are mined from it? |
| 03:32.32 | JademusSreg | *case |
| 03:32.42 | JademusSreg | Scrin? |
| 03:32.53 | AngusMcSwine | scrin what? |
| 03:32.57 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 03:33.27 | AngusMcSwine | I'm jut giving an example, if that is possible and you can change the amount of mierals in the properties tab, surely you can change the search effect itself in the properties tab? |
| 03:33.30 | AngusMcSwine | Ahli, you know I'm right. |
| 03:33.33 | JademusSreg | Anyway, to change the scale visually, you'd send an actor message SetScale. |
| 03:33.48 | AngusMcSwine | Ahhh |
| 03:34.02 | AngusMcSwine | And this can be done based on the amount of resources remaining right? |
| 03:34.11 | JademusSreg | Probably, yes. |
| 03:34.30 | AngusMcSwine | Yeah, so then I can just use a dummy value like resources without a mining behaviour? |
| 03:34.35 | AngusMcSwine | And it does the same thing right? |
| 03:34.39 | JademusSreg | Notice the model swap on the mineral crystal performed by the actor events for the mineral crystal unit? |
| 03:34.54 | AngusMcSwine | Indeed. |
| 03:35.03 | AngusMcSwine | I'll look into that. |
| 03:35.04 | AngusMcSwine | Thank you |
| 03:35.20 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
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| 03:45.31 | nooblark | anyone else following humble bundle :O |
| 03:51.49 | Taintedwisp | NO!!!!!!! |
| 03:52.48 | Taintedwisp | dammit... |
| 03:52.54 | Taintedwisp | I dont know how to do this all of a sudden |
| 03:53.01 | Taintedwisp | Hmm what would be better.... |
| 03:54.29 | Taintedwisp | hmm okay i think I got it. |
| 03:58.03 | Dustin|Home | nooblark |
| 03:58.21 | Dustin|Home | I dont understand wtf game mojang is making now |
| 03:58.27 | Dustin|Home | some sort of meteor flying thing? |
| 03:59.58 | nooblark | thery have 3 games |
| 04:00.20 | nooblark | striped zebras are making the spaceship cute french girl with alien pirate frogs |
| 04:00.31 | nooblark | one of them is some sort of pizza spaceship game |
| 04:00.37 | nooblark | and i have no idea what the third one is.. |
| 04:01.33 | nooblark | dustin, what do you think of this for my game icon: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m |
| 04:03.05 | JademusSreg | Spine Crawler with a Beaglepuss. |
| 04:03.51 | nooblark | jade, you should have heard the insults earlier |
| 04:03.59 | nooblark | i asked like 20 times, no one responded.. |
| 04:04.13 | nooblark | finially i said something, and nothing bu negative feedback |
| 04:04.25 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 04:04.30 | nooblark | i understand now, why so many bad published games are on battlenet |
| 04:04.43 | nooblark | people are too afraid to say something the first time around when it's bad. |
| 04:05.05 | nooblark | that's why i dislike the fake reviews people always ask for. |
| 04:05.26 | JademusSreg | "Hydralisk Kidz Swarm" is still apt. |
| 04:05.41 | nooblark | i did it once, and i regret it. i wish blizzard would give me a option to remove it, because at this point, i feel it's an insult to the map to go from 5 star to 1 :P |
| 04:05.55 | nooblark | i dont understand that reference, still. |
| 04:06.08 | nooblark | did you see my final load screen yet, jade? |
| 04:06.29 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 04:06.45 | nooblark | that answers that question. |
| 04:06.51 | JademusSreg | The palette and shit, it's like a children's television show. Zerg teaching children about letters and verbs and shit. |
| 04:06.57 | nooblark | i remember you correcting me when tainted broke it. |
| 04:07.11 | Taintedwisp | what did I break? |
| 04:07.15 | nooblark | jade, if you were going through 100s of games on battle.net |
| 04:07.19 | nooblark | would it catch your eye? |
| 04:07.30 | nooblark | is it unique, and intriguing? |
| 04:07.40 | JademusSreg | It is definitely different from all the other map icons. |
| 04:07.44 | nooblark | okay then :P |
| 04:08.04 | Taintedwisp | but then again if I put a turd on a 255 x 150 paper, I towuld be different too |
| 04:08.05 | nooblark | my goal is for people to look at it, not necessarily know what the hell it is :P |
| 04:08.07 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 04:08.10 | Taintedwisp | 225* |
| 04:08.41 | Taintedwisp | im kidding actually nooblark its pretty funny |
| 04:08.50 | Taintedwisp | but you should follow up with your loadingscreen being similar |
| 04:09.12 | nooblark | no |
| 04:09.30 | nooblark | the game is authentic |
| 04:09.38 | nooblark | the icon is merely a lure. |
| 04:10.03 | Taintedwisp | its a lie -_- |
| 04:10.04 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:10.10 | nooblark | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ |
| 04:10.17 | nooblark | simple, lured. |
| 04:10.18 | Taintedwisp | its like promising cake and getting fish.. |
| 04:10.47 | Kubi | NEVER GONNA GIVE YOU UP |
| 04:10.55 | Kubi | NEVER GONNA LET YOU DONW |
| 04:11.06 | Kubi | CANT CORNER THE DORNER |
| 04:11.08 | Taintedwisp | Rick, making black people think white people cant dance since the 80s. |
| 04:22.55 | Dogmai | does anyone know anything about dialog item force transition |
| 04:24.53 | Shawn|Rawr | Are you trying to use the force? |
| 04:25.05 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 04:25.56 | JademusSreg | I've never used it. |
| 04:27.06 | Dogmai | no, its new |
| 04:27.09 | Dogmai | i havnt seen it before |
| 04:28.01 | JademusSreg | It's not clear to me what it's supposed to do from the parameters. |
| 04:28.11 | Dogmai | I asked Xuzaca for fade dialog over time for player |
| 04:28.19 | Dogmai | Now I gotta write my own function |
| 04:28.21 | Dogmai | o_O |
| 04:28.38 | Dogmai | And I just finished writing all the player stuff |
| 04:28.42 | Dogmai | only to start writing the fade |
| 04:28.43 | Dogmai | to find out |
| 04:28.48 | Dogmai | i cant fade it per player |
| 04:28.50 | Dogmai | -_- |
| 04:29.21 | JademusSreg | Dialog control Panels > Dialogs when it comes to player instanced properties. |
| 04:29.40 | JademusSreg | Well, pretty much everything. |
| 04:31.15 | JademusSreg | DialogControlFadeTransparency (int control, playergroup players, fixed fadeTime, fixed inTargetTransparency); |
| 04:31.26 | JademusSreg | Niiice, |
| 04:32.22 | Taintedwisp | dogmai go bitch at blizzard and tell them they fucked up the Behaviors>Modifications field... |
| 04:32.31 | Dogmai | I dont do data |
| 04:32.31 | Dogmai | I don't care |
| 04:32.36 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 04:32.39 | Dogmai | Go make a forum post about it |
| 04:32.51 | Taintedwisp | i did -_- |
| 04:32.57 | Taintedwisp | its sooo fucking laggy. |
| 04:32.57 | Dogmai | What is that dialog control fade |
| 04:33.32 | Taintedwisp | its laggy and ugly, they took everything out of arrays and put it in seperate value boxes, whenever you click a value box it lags to 2 seconds.. |
| 04:34.06 | Taintedwisp | 2 seconds builds up when you have to click 15 boxes... |
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| 04:35.37 | Taintedwisp | the edito just froze... |
| 04:35.46 | Taintedwisp | FUCK YOU PIECE OF SHIT NEW MODIFICATIONS!!! |
| 04:35.58 | Taintedwisp | FUCKING SORRY ASS PIECE OF SHIT WHOEVER DID THIS STUPID ASS SHIT SHOULD HAVE TESTED IT!!! |
| 04:36.28 | Taintedwisp | and... it froze again.. |
| 04:37.58 | Taintedwisp | im on 5 of 16 it has taken me 10 minutes so far, due to this laggy shit |
| 04:38.08 | Taintedwisp | This should have been 10-30 seconds per one. |
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| 04:42.03 | Taintedwisp | I GOT A ZERG AND A SHOTGUN AND IM BRINGIN HOME TO YOU |
| 04:43.58 | Vindicator | you don't know where i live |
| 04:43.59 | Vindicator | so i doubt it |
| 04:45.09 | Kubi | Vincicator, |
| 04:45.12 | Kubi | Check your front door |
| 04:45.14 | Kubi | I'm here |
| 04:45.46 | Taintedwisp | hes there.. naked |
| 04:49.22 | Taintedwisp | and its fucking frozen again.. |
| 04:49.30 | JademusSreg | Arousing. |
| 04:49.34 | Taintedwisp | Fucking blizzard..... they made the editor worse... |
| 04:51.42 | Triceron | is this Vengeance thing a new trailer? |
| 04:52.23 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 04:52.40 | Taintedwisp | yeah triceron |
| 04:53.03 | Triceron | http://i.imgur.com/xSm3oST.jpg that thing |
| 04:53.07 | Triceron | okay |
| 04:53.24 | Triceron | so a trailer on Twitch, weird |
| 04:54.44 | Taintedwisp | yeah its a trailer |
| 04:54.45 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:56.56 | Taintedwisp | Dogmai This is the new fucking modifications tab.... http://imgur.com/wn4wNMe |
| 04:57.39 | Taintedwisp | Heres a picture of it when it doesnt freeze -_-, keep in mind it USED to be in neat and clean arrays, that were mostly lagfree http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/IWHkVhj_zps251df648.png |
| 05:02.21 | Taintedwisp | http://imgur.com/RPAzn6o |
| 05:02.34 | Taintedwisp | Notice in the fuckingbackground I am 2 down... so its not the same picture.... |
| 05:02.35 | Taintedwisp | -_- |
| 05:11.36 | Taintedwisp | I have had over 10 freezes in the past hour... |
| 05:11.47 | Taintedwisp | A FUCKING HOUR AND A HALF TO DO 10 MINUTES OF WORK!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 05:20.25 | Ahli | go to their forums, write when and where it freezes... give them your dxdiag, too |
| 05:21.13 | Taintedwisp | They dont get my dxdiag... |
| 05:21.16 | Taintedwisp | they need to revert that shit... |
| 05:21.21 | Taintedwisp | THats all there is to it, |
| 05:21.43 | Taintedwisp | i just gave them 7 pictures of it freezing in the modifications tab... |
| 05:23.14 | Ahli | it works for me... |
| 05:23.16 | Ahli | :S |
| 05:23.27 | Taintedwisp | it freezes for me... |
| 05:23.37 | Taintedwisp | Not to mention they disorganized and fucked everything up inside of it -_- |
| 05:23.38 | Ahli | that's why pc specs and OS might be interesting |
| 05:23.59 | Ahli | Idislike the field layouts, too |
| 05:23.59 | JademusSreg | View settings. |
| 05:24.02 | Taintedwisp | 1.6 Quad Core.... 1 gig of ram, i have everything on low settings and it was just fine before they fucked it up |
| 05:24.13 | Taintedwisp | 4 gigs of ram |
| 05:24.18 | Taintedwisp | 1 gig of video ram |
| 05:24.47 | JademusSreg | I mean which options are checked in the View menu of the editor. |
| 05:25.20 | Ahli | you could just collapse the modification + field and edit the smaller field areas |
| 05:25.22 | Taintedwisp | 1 sec.. its frozen gain |
| 05:26.12 | JademusSreg | 1.6 GHz processor? |
| 05:27.12 | Kubi | GOOD BYE HORSES |
| 05:28.04 | Taintedwisp | .1.6 ghz Quad Core Processor |
| 05:28.20 | JademusSreg | Tragic. |
| 05:28.24 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 05:29.00 | JademusSreg | But yeah, CPU bottleneck seems likely. |
| 05:29.58 | Ahli | it is slow, yes... so it might take a few more seconds on your cpu |
| 05:30.07 | Ahli | try not to click it when it is freezing ^^ |
| 05:30.41 | Ahli | maybe it loads that window after (insert inefficiently high value) of seconds |
| 05:30.46 | JademusSreg | Hell, some parts of the editor even chug on my system. |
| 05:31.09 | JademusSreg | Like the Combat tab of the Modification, or the Create actor event message., |
| 05:32.05 | Taintedwisp | thats the problem jademus the modification .... |
| 05:32.20 | Taintedwisp | BUT it didnt before they took everything out of arrays |
| 05:33.05 | JademusSreg | What are your View settings? The View menu. The checked options. Like View Raw Data and shit. |
| 05:33.40 | Taintedwisp | table field and combine |
| 05:33.47 | Taintedwisp | the rest is shit i dont use :P |
| 05:33.51 | Taintedwisp | they removed advanced |
| 05:34.21 | Taintedwisp | Quick data question |
| 05:34.50 | Taintedwisp | if I am validating the Veterency level of a hero to be on an aura what would be th target unit? |
| 05:34.59 | Taintedwisp | caster, source or target? or waht |
| 05:35.18 | JademusSreg | Depends on the target of the effect being validated. |
| 05:35.32 | Taintedwisp | uhhh |
| 05:35.49 | Taintedwisp | It would just be an aura with a search area and a apply buff |
| 05:35.55 | Taintedwisp | the apply buff is what would be in the switch |
| 05:36.07 | ckSynergy | sc2 really needs to get its act together if a 1.6ghz quad bottlenecks it |
| 05:36.13 | Taintedwisp | It would be allied units i guess |
| 05:36.15 | ckSynergy | seems to be a fairly common processor |
| 05:36.21 | ckSynergy | 1.6-2ghz |
| 05:36.24 | JademusSreg | Yes. To the apply buff is being validated. The validator needs to validate the veterency level of the source. |
| 05:44.28 | iMisu | http://imgur.com/gallery/6vP1xGX |
| 05:51.11 | iMisu | http://imgur.com/gallery/sAh3NIs |
| 05:53.09 | Vindicator | hmm looks like sixen linked to irc in the sc2mapster group, it'll be interesting to see if we get a jolt of activity over the next month |
| 05:58.48 | Taintedwisp | yeah... jolt haha |
| 05:58.57 | Taintedwisp | with what all 2 of the people in the group |
| 05:58.58 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 06:01.45 | Taintedwisp | FUCK YEAH NINJA |
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| 06:03.43 | ployne | Anyone is good with triggers here? |
| 06:04.04 | Dogmai | I hear this crash on TV |
| 06:04.09 | Dogmai | My dad is like oh nooo.......... |
| 06:04.10 | ployne | I have a bug happening when a While mixed with a Move trigger runs wimultaneously with another While mixed with a Move trigger. :/ |
| 06:04.13 | Dogmai | Im like, what happened? |
| 06:04.18 | Dogmai | Hes like "he got deaded" |
| 06:04.22 | Dogmai | o_O lol |
| 06:04.24 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 06:04.33 | Dogmai | So funny |
| 06:04.39 | Dogmai | Imma turn that into a tofu meme |
| 06:04.41 | Dogmai | You got deaded |
| 06:04.43 | ployne | It should be mentioned both Move triggers affect the same unit (at the same time) |
| 06:05.08 | JademusSreg | Also, I messaged you on skype, Dogmai. |
| 06:05.22 | ployne | that thing used to work in older patches... |
| 06:07.04 | ployne | anyone? :( |
| 06:07.39 | JademusSreg | Clarify? |
| 06:07.50 | JademusSreg | I don't quite understand the issue. |
| 06:11.05 | ployne | well |
| 06:11.09 | ployne | I'll PM |
| 06:28.13 | Ahli | http://cfile3.uf.tistory.com/original/15382D41511EDA57040F31 |
| 06:29.23 | JademusSreg | Nice. |
| 06:45.49 | Bommes | hmm |
| 06:45.54 | Bommes | some of the scales seem weird imo |
| 06:46.00 | Bommes | and SCVs have legs? |
| 06:46.27 | Bommes | like really stretched out ones? |
| 06:49.43 | JademusSreg | Do they? |
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| 06:51.47 | Bommes | apparently, yeah |
| 06:51.52 | Bommes | look at the picture ahli posted |
| 06:53.20 | JademusSreg | Perhaps they are always squatting, keeping a low center of gravity to increase stability with those rear thrusters and shit. |
| 06:53.27 | Ahli | look at the model in sc2 :D |
| 06:53.56 | Ahli | damn that diamondback is big... and the tank feels small |
| 06:54.47 | Vindicator | are we allowwed to share star tools with others? i didn't think so but i wasn't positive. i found someone in china who is sharing it who got in tho... |
| 06:55.19 | Bommes | also MULEs are apparently like twice the size of Hydralisks |
| 06:55.39 | Bommes | and Hydralisks weigh like 400kg and are 6m tall according to SC2 wiki |
| 06:55.49 | Bommes | so this picture is a little shady in the details :D |
| 06:56.37 | Bommes | can't wait for the new cinematic on the 26th btw |
| 06:56.45 | Bommes | I'm sure it will be awesome |
| 06:56.55 | Bommes | as it always is |
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| 07:12.28 | Taintedwisp | forgot i had this open :P |
| 07:12.50 | JademusSreg | Pew. |
| 07:13.34 | Taintedwisp | FUCK PEPPE!!! HES A BITCH |
| 07:17.04 | Vindicator | u still there ployne? |
| 07:17.23 | Vindicator | oh i see jademus said he's PM u nvm |
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| 08:26.49 | ployne | hi there |
| 08:26.54 | ployne | who is good with Catalog Entries? |
| 08:27.12 | ployne | I have a trigger that changes the Hotkey settings of players between ZXCV, QWER and AZER |
| 08:27.22 | ployne | it works for ALL abilities except ONE |
| 08:27.25 | ployne | and I can't figure out why |
| 08:27.30 | ployne | here is the trigger: http://pastebin.com/UNm3cbwa |
| 08:28.07 | JademusSreg | Which one? |
| 08:28.09 | ployne | if I could find the Button Catalog Entry of the button of that ability, it'd probably help, but I don't know how to do that... |
| 08:28.29 | ployne | it's a custom button for an ability named "Mist" |
| 08:28.39 | ployne | it was made just like every other custom button |
| 08:28.49 | ployne | I also tried deleting it and creating a new one, and it didn't fix anything |
| 08:29.56 | JademusSreg | Pretty simple. Most text keys are implicitly defined, and most text entry fields show the key in the dialogue. |
| 08:30.17 | JademusSreg | The frame that pops up should show the text key above the text input field. |
| 08:32.34 | ployne | what frame? |
| 08:32.51 | JademusSreg | The default hotkey text key is Button/Hotkey/##id## where the ##id## token is the id of the data entry. |
| 08:32.52 | ployne | or what dialogue? :/ |
| 08:33.35 | JademusSreg | The field in the Button data where you set the hotkey. Above the button that sets the hotkey it displays the Text Key. |
| 08:33.36 | ployne | ah |
| 08:33.43 | ployne | it seems like the number is 696 |
| 08:33.54 | ployne | how comes it doesn't update like others then? |
| 08:33.59 | ployne | it's included within the loop's value range :/ |
| 08:34.23 | JademusSreg | Not certain what you mean. |
| 08:34.31 | ployne | http://pastebin.com/UNm3cbwa |
| 08:34.43 | ployne | the For loop checks all ID between 1 and 1000 |
| 08:35.05 | ployne | yet the trigger works for changing the hotkey setting of all buttons except one: Mist (#696) |
| 08:35.58 | JademusSreg | I don't know what the buttons data is, so I can't hazard a guess. |
| 08:36.10 | JademusSreg | I mean, you could pastebin the xml. |
| 08:36.19 | JademusSreg | May be informative. |
| 08:36.39 | ployne | also, I changed the value of the loop to finish at 789 (since some trigger errors were saying the max value the CatalogEntryGet could have was 789), and somehow the buttons ID#790-791-792 all get properly rehotkeyed. |
| 08:36.58 | ployne | how do I get that xml? |
| 08:37.02 | JademusSreg | Ctrl 3 |
| 08:37.10 | ployne | and what could there be that wouldn't be in the trigger form? |
| 08:37.18 | JademusSreg | While viewing the Data module. |
| 08:37.44 | JademusSreg | Since you say that button is the exception, one would assume something different about its data. |
| 08:39.32 | ployne | I just noticed this button is the only one to have a Prefix, and the only one to hve no Suffix |
| 08:39.36 | ployne | I fixed that and we'll see how it goes :o |
| 08:39.53 | ployne | lol |
| 08:39.55 | ployne | Nope. |
| 08:39.56 | JademusSreg | Skeptical that would have any effect. |
| 08:39.59 | ployne | One can always hope. XD |
| 08:40.16 | JademusSreg | Pastebin the xml. |
| 08:40.58 | ployne | I can't click on the XML button :o |
| 08:41.26 | JademusSreg | Ctrl 3 |
| 08:41.41 | ployne | http://pastebin.com/vxPLywDR |
| 08:41.46 | ployne | first button is one that works |
| 08:41.51 | ployne | second one (Mist) is the one that doesnt |
| 08:42.04 | ployne | how comes |
| 08:42.08 | ployne | no hotkey value is set in there? :S |
| 08:42.16 | JademusSreg | Because it hasn't been set. |
| 08:42.18 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 08:42.22 | ployne | there is one set when I'm in non-xml view |
| 08:42.28 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 08:42.33 | ployne | That editor hates me, I swear. |
| 08:42.36 | JademusSreg | That's the one in its text key. |
| 08:43.07 | JademusSreg | KhalaiFist on the other hand had its hotkey field set to refer to a non default text key. |
| 08:43.28 | ployne | can I just copy-paste and it'll apply the change? |
| 08:43.36 | JademusSreg | Which means it will pass because your code doesn't check the value of the text from the key, it only checks the text key itself. |
| 08:44.43 | JademusSreg | So revert to your prefered view, copy KhalaiFist's hotkey field and paste it in Mist's hotkey field. |
| 08:44.57 | JademusSreg | That's copy over the text key, and your code should work. |
| 08:45.01 | JademusSreg | *That'll |
| 08:45.10 | ployne | also, here are the 3 kind of errors I get in hundreds every time I open my map in the editor: http://pastebin.com/UxwtjNK8 -- any idea how to fix that? :/ |
| 08:45.34 | JademusSreg | Remove the protoss decals from the terrain. |
| 08:45.45 | JademusSreg | The protoss decal doodads, that is. |
| 08:45.49 | ployne | But I am using them. :( |
| 08:46.10 | JademusSreg | Then you must learn to love and accept the errors. |
| 08:46.37 | ployne | why do those errors appear? :( |
| 08:47.43 | ployne | So huh... can you tell me why when I created the other buttons that Key Text Field thing would be set, but not when I did the Mist one? :o |
| 08:48.00 | ployne | Ahhh! Hotkey fixed! <3 |
| 08:48.12 | ployne | I've been trying to figure that thing out for days! @.@ |
| 08:49.03 | JademusSreg | Because your trigger checks the hotkey field's value, which is a text key, and not the string to which the text key refers, which is the, uh, actual hotkey, haha. |
| 08:51.31 | ployne | but I mean, why did the other buttons have their hotkey field's value automatically set to the proper thing, but not the Mist? |
| 08:51.54 | ployne | oh well. ;o |
| 08:52.09 | ployne | new question: |
| 08:52.34 | ployne | How do I make so that an effect appears overhead of units being affected by a Behavior, -without- having to add Actor-Events to every single unit? |
| 08:55.22 | JademusSreg | Make a Model type actor. |
| 08:56.09 | JademusSreg | And set its parent to BuffContinuous. |
| 08:57.01 | JademusSreg | Make a new Model data entry, too, and make its id same as the actor's id. It'll save you the trouble of setting the Model field of the actor. |
| 08:58.20 | JademusSreg | You'll need to add events to make the actor create itself. Behavior.blahblahbehavior.On -> Create and to destroy itself Behavior.blahblahbehavior.Off -> Destroy |
| 08:58.38 | ployne | Okidoo. Thanks. :) |
| 08:59.02 | ployne | How do I preview Models quickly? It always takes a good 2-3 seconds to load up models when I pop up the selection window. |
| 09:00.01 | JademusSreg | I'd expect you'd need to close other processes or upgrade the computer's hardware. |
| 09:00.16 | ployne | Aww. XD |
| 09:01.08 | ployne | I'm sure you can suggest a good subtle blueish/protossish model that could go overhead of units that pass through a mist that slows them down ;D |
| 09:03.37 | JademusSreg | DominationImpact |
| 09:05.09 | ployne | nothing shows for dominationimpact |
| 09:05.16 | ployne | but DominationBeam looks nice |
| 09:06.40 | ployne | how do I make it so that a Model adjusts its size based on the size of the unit it is attached to? |
| 09:06.55 | JademusSreg | Gotta get the animation shit right. If the animation doesn't have a loop defined in the asset, you can for a loop with the right actor event messages. |
| 09:07.17 | JademusSreg | Actor: Art: Auto Scale Factor |
| 09:07.30 | JademusSreg | That'll scale it by model size. |
| 09:08.13 | ployne | so I want to Duplicate Domination Beam model, and set its ID as the same as the Actor, right? |
| 09:08.15 | JademusSreg | Ah, but I should point out the best way to learn is by tinkering. Benefits a more thorough understanding of how shit works than being told. =D |
| 09:08.36 | ployne | the Data Editor is a maze. D: |
| 09:08.38 | JademusSreg | I'd say never duplicate anything, but makes no difference. |
| 09:08.44 | JademusSreg | Funny you should mention that. |
| 09:08.55 | ployne | The problem is I am leaving for an extended period of time quite soon, and I need to fix everything in this map before leaving |
| 09:08.59 | JademusSreg | http://pastebin.com/kcNL5pkE |
| 09:09.21 | ployne | so that my partner which doesn't really know how to mess with the editor will only be left with Balancing stuff such as changing costs and cooldowns on abilities |
| 09:09.49 | JademusSreg | Anyway, yes, if the model data id matches the actor data id, then the actor's model field will automatically link to the model. |
| 09:10.24 | ployne | lol, nicely put ;) |
| 09:11.14 | JademusSreg | Imagine what it was like for us modders who messed with the xml during beta, before the editor was released. Haha |
| 09:12.47 | JademusSreg | People here are willing to help out, and you seem competent and able to learn, so provided you don't mind some good-natured trolling, you should be able to get the info you need. |
| 09:13.38 | ployne | how do I actually know if the Actor and the Model got linked together properly via ID? (before making their ID match perfectly, the link-tree at the bottom left was already linking them) |
| 09:14.16 | JademusSreg | Check the actor's Model field. |
| 09:14.20 | JademusSreg | Art: Model |
| 09:14.36 | JademusSreg | If it is grey, not green, then it is implicitly linked. |
| 09:16.04 | JademusSreg | I'd explain the technical shit, but it wouldn't make much difference if you're not working with tokens. |
| 09:17.01 | JademusSreg | But the short explanation is that making ids consistent makes things more convenient. |
| 09:17.38 | ployne | talking of that, some times Effects get linked automatically to an ability, but they stay Grey, even though they are not default values. |
| 09:17.53 | ployne | the reason they are not green is because it was an automatized process? |
| 09:17.58 | JademusSreg | Yeah, that's precisely what I mean. |
| 09:18.26 | ployne | is there a way to set it so that it becomes green and is actually moved at the top, like all other non-defualt values? |
| 09:19.00 | JademusSreg | Most of the defaults, the grey entries from Core, use token expressions like ##id## in their fields, which automatically sets a field to a value based on the id. |
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| 09:19.44 | JademusSreg | And since everything inherits from the defaults, those token expressions are default, even when they link to data entries that exist. |
| 09:20.00 | ployne | SubName of the Behavior creation Actor Event thingy should be "Create" or "On"? |
| 09:20.04 | JademusSreg | On |
| 09:20.16 | ployne | "Create" would be for having an event that fires when it is created? |
| 09:20.26 | ployne | can of an Initial Effect of Birth? |
| 09:20.27 | Taintedwisp | I as thinking about doing some stuff with layoutfiles, butI dunno..... |
| 09:20.31 | JademusSreg | Yes. |
| 09:20.39 | JademusSreg | Gopher it, Taint. |
| 09:21.33 | ployne | what are those setttings for the "Create" event action? |
| 09:21.43 | ployne | Type and Content. :o |
| 09:21.50 | JademusSreg | Stuff about which ou need not worry. |
| 09:21.57 | ployne | and what's the difference between Normal and Immediate Destroy? |
| 09:22.12 | JademusSreg | The default (blank) is sufficient for most uses. |
| 09:22.28 | JademusSreg | Immediate destroy will finish playing animations and shit. |
| 09:22.32 | ployne | I had to mess with that Normal destroy once because the destruction wasn't immediate, but how comes some times Normal -is- immediate? |
| 09:22.59 | ployne | so "Normal" stops the animation, and "Immediate" lets it run until it ends? That sounds counter-intuitive |
| 09:23.24 | JademusSreg | Probably because the animation was non-looping and exceeded its duration. |
| 09:23.33 | G0A | barcraft featured. |
| 09:23.39 | JademusSreg | Coooo. |
| 09:23.57 | ployne | What is an "Animation Bracket" action? |
| 09:24.18 | JademusSreg | It defines a sequence of animations. |
| 09:24.28 | ployne | why didn't Fungal Growth need a BuffContinuous Model for it to do what I want to do at the moment? :o |
| 09:24.49 | JademusSreg | Because most vanilla data does things in silly ways. |
| 09:25.04 | ployne | lol |
| 09:25.16 | ployne | alright, testing that out, we'll see if you are a good mentor, and me a good student. ;D |
| 09:25.22 | JademusSreg | Probably because with so many employees working on so many parts of a project, conventions aren't maintained rigorously. |
| 09:25.45 | ployne | I guess, ya |
| 09:25.50 | JademusSreg | Or rather, weren't established in the first place. |
| 09:25.52 | ployne | Have you ever played Star Strikers? :) |
| 09:26.04 | JademusSreg | Yeah. It's pretty good. |
| 09:26.50 | JademusSreg | The controls are less than pleasing, but the gameplay and design is a solid effort. |
| 09:26.50 | ployne | it's the map I'm working on ;) |
| 09:27.01 | ployne | its creator died or something, and he had given me the map to make updates |
| 09:27.11 | ployne | I've been working on it ever since |
| 09:27.21 | ployne | I'm adding 3 new abilities for the next patch. :) |
| 09:27.29 | ployne | Just tested the thing, it didn't work. :( |
| 09:27.39 | ployne | probably a Host Site Attachment thing? |
| 09:28.03 | ployne | what do you mean "less than pleasing"? What would be your improvment suggestions? :o |
| 09:29.03 | ployne | or maybe my Auto Scale From Selection Selection Factor set to 1 fucks it up? |
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| 09:30.11 | ployne | here we go, I had forgetten an attachpoint |
| 09:30.16 | JademusSreg | Yeah. |
| 09:30.17 | MasterWrath | Anybody here good with behaviors / validators? |
| 09:30.38 | MasterWrath | I have a problem with a very specific nuance. |
| 09:30.45 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 09:30.51 | MasterWrath | I have a validator that |
| 09:30.53 | MasterWrath | For some reason |
| 09:30.58 | MasterWrath | Is working in the Remove field of a behavior |
| 09:31.00 | MasterWrath | But not the Disable |
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| 09:31.43 | JademusSreg | What is it you are attempting to accomplish? |
| 09:32.00 | MasterWrath | Disabling a behavior while a unit is in combat |
| 09:32.04 | MasterWrath | Rather straightforward |
| 09:32.19 | MasterWrath | I have damage responses adding a buff called "combat indicator" to the unit |
| 09:32.21 | MasterWrath | Which works fine |
| 09:32.23 | MasterWrath | And the validator |
| 09:32.29 | ployne | I set the Attachment from the Model or the Actor? |
| 09:32.32 | MasterWrath | Checks that there are 0 stacks of it |
| 09:32.34 | JademusSreg | And is its icon hidden from the UI? |
| 09:32.48 | MasterWrath | I have combat indicator un-hidden for now |
| 09:32.56 | MasterWrath | While trying to debug this |
| 09:32.59 | JademusSreg | Wrath, there are validators to check if a unit is in combat. |
| 09:33.15 | MasterWrath | This is more specific than that |
| 09:33.26 | JademusSreg | Or do you have particular needs? |
| 09:33.49 | MasterWrath | ... |
| 09:33.53 | MasterWrath | The problem, as I said at first |
| 09:33.57 | MasterWrath | Is that my validator is working |
| 09:34.01 | MasterWrath | In the remove field but not the disable |
| 09:34.04 | MasterWrath | And I only want it to disable |
| 09:34.32 | JademusSreg | plo, Host Site Operations, add SOpAttachCenter. |
| 09:34.58 | JademusSreg | And add the _Selectable alias to Host if it's not already there. |
| 09:35.33 | JademusSreg | I've never heard of a validator being preferential about that sort of thing. |
| 09:35.45 | MasterWrath | I know, right? |
| 09:35.45 | JademusSreg | Care to pastebin the relevant xml? |
| 09:36.28 | MasterWrath | Ahhhhh |
| 09:36.30 | MasterWrath | Hold on |
| 09:36.32 | MasterWrath | I was wrong. |
| 09:36.36 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 09:36.39 | MasterWrath | It is working, but |
| 09:36.43 | MasterWrath | I thought it would hide the icon |
| 09:36.45 | MasterWrath | In the behavior bar |
| 09:36.46 | MasterWrath | :/ |
| 09:36.48 | MasterWrath | It doesn't. |
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| 09:37.02 | JademusSreg | Requirements do. |
| 09:37.04 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 09:37.15 | Taintedwisp | Zerg, Shotgun, you |
| 09:37.34 | JademusSreg | Tainted, that's a fun premise/name for a game. |
| 09:37.39 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ysrg7joWrxk |
| 09:37.50 | JademusSreg | A direct, no bullshit name for a game. |
| 09:37.55 | ployne | I never would have thought of _Selectable. ;o |
| 09:38.04 | Taintedwisp | actually it wouldnt be bad for a top down shooter :P |
| 09:38.30 | JademusSreg | plo, it basically says the Host for the actor must has the _Selectable alias. |
| 09:38.56 | Taintedwisp | Hey MasterWrath you still working with cybrok? |
| 09:39.08 | ployne | wooooo, that thing looks -epic- |
| 09:39.10 | ployne | Thanks Jade <3 |
| 09:39.15 | JademusSreg | No problem. |
| 09:39.43 | ployne | oh, Host of the actor being the unit the model is attached to (created on) ? |
| 09:39.52 | ployne | thus making sure the Host is a unit that is selectable. |
| 09:40.01 | MasterWrath | Cybrok |
| 09:40.03 | MasterWrath | Errmmm |
| 09:40.07 | MasterWrath | He really has nothing |
| 09:40.09 | MasterWrath | Like |
| 09:40.10 | MasterWrath | Nothing |
| 09:40.35 | JademusSreg | Well, it requires the alias. And if you look, you can see which actors have what aliases. |
| 09:40.43 | JademusSreg | Like many units have _Selectable. |
| 09:41.34 | JademusSreg | *unit actors |
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| 09:43.03 | ployne | It said I was banned. O.o |
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| 09:43.15 | ployne | anyways, what is the "Attachment Properties" field for i n the Model, then? |
| 09:43.18 | JademusSreg | K-Lined |
| 09:44.26 | JademusSreg | Ah, not relevant at the moment. |
| 09:44.34 | JademusSreg | And also, I do not recall, atm. |
| 09:44.35 | JademusSreg | HAha |
| 09:44.36 | rkmisfit | im calling SetUnitHeight in a loop for a 3d flying unit... the SetUnitHeight calls are accumulating, doesnt seem right |
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| 09:45.10 | Taintedwisp | hahah |
| 09:45.13 | Taintedwisp | Had me woried |
| 09:45.14 | rkmisfit | if you call setunitheight(2) four times in a row the unit ends up at height 8 |
| 09:45.17 | Taintedwisp | It said I was banned... |
| 09:45.19 | Taintedwisp | I was like wtf did I do now |
| 09:45.20 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 09:45.34 | ployne | same here ;) |
| 09:45.45 | JademusSreg | rk, perhaps because it is additive and not absolute? |
| 09:46.15 | ployne | so huh Jade |
| 09:46.16 | Taintedwisp | I think it was sixen showing off :P |
| 09:46.17 | ployne | one problem |
| 09:46.23 | Taintedwisp | jk |
| 09:46.34 | ployne | it seems like it is simply being created multiple times overhead as long as the behavior is on the unit |
| 09:46.45 | ployne | I would prefer it to be Locked overhead |
| 09:46.50 | ployne | so that it doesn'T leave a trail or anything :o |
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| 09:47.45 | MasterWrath | Oh, goodie... |
| 09:47.50 | MasterWrath | Thought I got banned there for a minute. |
| 09:48.09 | JademusSreg | Not sure what you're doing with it, plo. What host site operation did you use? |
| 09:48.16 | rkmisfit | UnitSetHeight takes an absolute height, but it is applying the change in height over time, without removing other change-over-time effects from the previous UnitSetHeight... i think its a bug |
| 09:48.23 | JademusSreg | And what are your actor events? |
| 09:48.49 | MasterWrath | But yeah, Tainted |
| 09:48.58 | MasterWrath | Cybrok has nothing whatsoever done |
| 09:48.59 | Taintedwisp | so what you mean he has Nothing? |
| 09:49.01 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:49.03 | MasterWrath | He's got |
| 09:49.04 | Taintedwisp | hahahaha |
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| 09:49.09 | MasterWrath | A poorly terrained asymmetrical map |
| 09:49.26 | MasterWrath | He had |
| 09:49.30 | MasterWrath | Three heroes with no abilities |
| 09:49.32 | MasterWrath | That he made by |
| 09:49.36 | MasterWrath | Modifying their liberty bases |
| 09:49.41 | MasterWrath | Instead of creating |
| 09:49.42 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 09:49.50 | ployne | I'm using "OpOverhead" or something OverHead |
| 09:49.57 | MasterWrath | At first I offered to do triggers but |
| 09:49.58 | Taintedwisp | MasterWrath imma be honest I kicked him off my team for areason.. |
| 09:50.04 | MasterWrath | He started asking me about abilities |
| 09:50.05 | Taintedwisp | He sucks at data and is lazy -_- |
| 09:50.06 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:50.07 | JademusSreg | plo, gotta be specific. |
| 09:50.08 | MasterWrath | I gave him a couple |
| 09:50.11 | MasterWrath | Then reminded him |
| 09:50.16 | MasterWrath | I did not want to do all the work |
| 09:50.19 | rkmisfit | where would i report a bug in the UnitSetHeight? the forums maybe? is there a bug report forum? |
| 09:50.21 | ployne | Acotr Events are the basic ones + Behavior.x.On-> Create, Beh.x.Off->Destroy |
| 09:50.24 | MasterWrath | If he comes back to me with something done (which he won't) |
| 09:50.27 | MasterWrath | I will help him then |
| 09:50.43 | JademusSreg | And x is the id of the behavior? =D |
| 09:50.51 | ployne | "SOpAttachOverhead" |
| 09:50.58 | ployne | yes, 'X' id the ID of the behavior |
| 09:51.02 | Taintedwisp | in 3 months he did 3 basic abilities (1 damage effect with SA), (2 apply bufffs) and made 1 button.. |
| 09:51.02 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 09:51.05 | JademusSreg | Alright. |
| 09:51.09 | Taintedwisp | and the button didnt even look good |
| 09:51.09 | ployne | or I believe so. I basically selected the name of my behavior in the list I saw. ;o |
| 09:51.17 | JademusSreg | That's alarming. |
| 09:51.24 | MasterWrath | :P |
| 09:51.41 | MasterWrath | The first UI design he came up with |
| 09:51.42 | ployne | lol tainted |
| 09:51.44 | MasterWrath | Was also pretty bad |
| 09:51.47 | ployne | is that your map-making partner? |
| 09:51.47 | JademusSreg | Anyway, did you use a beam model? |
| 09:52.09 | Taintedwisp | My map making partners are both awesome, The guy I am talking about was a fill in who I bootedc |
| 09:52.32 | ployne | "Dominion Beam" is my Model. |
| 09:52.41 | MasterWrath | So Tainted |
| 09:52.45 | Taintedwisp | I have Vailreth and soulcarverr two of th ebest :P |
| 09:52.47 | MasterWrath | The abilities that I am making |
| 09:52.47 | JademusSreg | Alright. Don't use a beam model. |
| 09:52.49 | MasterWrath | For that paid project |
| 09:52.53 | MasterWrath | Pretty complicated |
| 09:52.56 | JademusSreg | They are Special Needs models. |
| 09:52.57 | ployne | anything else will work? |
| 09:52.58 | MasterWrath | The first one required 10 effects |
| 09:53.01 | Taintedwisp | :P I offered to do them for free.. |
| 09:53.05 | Taintedwisp | What was the first ability? |
| 09:53.21 | Taintedwisp | He said he didnt trust someone doing free work -_-... |
| 09:53.22 | MasterWrath | A unit-targeted claw ability |
| 09:53.22 | Taintedwisp | haha |
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| 09:53.27 | MasterWrath | That does damage in an area |
| 09:53.28 | Taintedwisp | Okay? |
| 09:53.31 | MasterWrath | And |
| 09:53.35 | MasterWrath | If the unit has the "empower" behavior |
| 09:53.48 | MasterWrath | Does additional damage for each stack of "frenzy" |
| 09:53.50 | Zolden | ok, Taintedwisp, checking glow |
| 09:53.52 | MasterWrath | Forgot to mention |
| 09:53.55 | MasterWrath | It adds a stack of frenzy |
| 09:53.59 | Taintedwisp | WOO HOO GLOW |
| 09:54.05 | Zolden | if it will move after the first attempt, i will calal you noob so hard |
| 09:54.14 | MasterWrath | And if it gets this additional empower effect |
| 09:54.17 | MasterWrath | It removes all stacks of frenzy |
| 09:54.23 | MasterWrath | So it required 10 effects and 2 behaviors |
| 09:54.26 | MasterWrath | And 2 validators |
| 09:54.34 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 09:54.44 | MasterWrath | The base damage search |
| 09:54.46 | MasterWrath | The damage itself |
| 09:54.53 | MasterWrath | The apply behavior of frenzy |
| 09:54.55 | MasterWrath | Frenzy |
| 09:55.02 | Taintedwisp | you fail |
| 09:55.03 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:55.08 | Taintedwisp | Wiat nvm |
| 09:55.08 | MasterWrath | The persistent to remove each stack of frenzy if empowered |
| 09:55.08 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 09:55.10 | MasterWrath | Empower |
| 09:55.22 | Taintedwisp | you sure this guy isnt trolling? |
| 09:55.23 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:55.26 | MasterWrath | The remove frenzy effect, the empowered damage effect |
| 09:55.37 | MasterWrath | Oh |
| 09:55.42 | MasterWrath | And since the empowered damage was also area |
| 09:55.51 | MasterWrath | The empowered search effect for the damage |
| 09:56.00 | MasterWrath | And finally |
| 09:56.04 | MasterWrath | The remove empowered effect |
| 09:56.10 | MasterWrath | -_-' |
| 09:56.38 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 09:57.02 | Taintedwisp | I on the otherhand created an elogant system to make my heroes a bit better |
| 09:57.03 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 09:57.16 | Taintedwisp | ohh another thing haha |
| 09:57.30 | Taintedwisp | Cybrok came on here and told me that he has dropped his grudge haha |
| 09:57.37 | Taintedwisp | I told him I never cared he had a grudge :P |
| 09:57.40 | MasterWrath | lol |
| 09:57.42 | MasterWrath | Hahahahahaha |
| 09:58.01 | MasterWrath | My thoughts exactly in that situation |
| 09:58.33 | Taintedwisp | personally I never cared whether or not anyone ever disliked me :P |
| 09:58.48 | Taintedwisp | I have too little time to worrie about what other poeple think :P |
| 09:58.51 | Taintedwisp | people* |
| 10:00.24 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: yea, it didn't move at first attempt, i won't call you a noob |
| 10:00.32 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 10:00.38 | Taintedwisp | Also it isnt spawning everytime |
| 10:00.48 | Taintedwisp | it only spawns like 50% of the time |
| 10:00.53 | Taintedwisp | Good for a first attempt though zolden |
| 10:00.57 | Taintedwisp | Its got to be just a setting now |
| 10:01.57 | rkmisfit | i put in a bug report for the UnitSetHeight glitch, i dont think its the intended behavior, i wonder if theyll fix it |
| 10:05.29 | MasterWrath | Anybody ever used a compare cooldown validator? |
| 10:05.40 | JademusSreg | I have not. |
| 10:06.52 | Taintedwisp | no |
| 10:09.38 | MasterWrath | Hey Tainted |
| 10:09.44 | MasterWrath | Do you use exclusively data for your abilities |
| 10:09.52 | JademusSreg | Seems an Overlap index was added, perhaps to help Ultralisks and Zerglings not trip over one another. |
| 10:09.52 | MasterWrath | Or do you occasionally combine with triggers |
| 10:10.54 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: and couple more experiments didn't force it to move, u're definitely not a noob |
| 10:11.07 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
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| 10:11.16 | Taintedwisp | I use only data |
| 10:11.21 | Taintedwisp | Triggers with abilities are for scrubs |
| 10:11.27 | MasterWrath | Depends |
| 10:11.49 | Taintedwisp | I can do pretty much anything triggers can |
| 10:11.52 | MasterWrath | Random point in region via trigger is better than periodic offset imo |
| 10:11.58 | Taintedwisp | actors get a bit tricky but still |
| 10:12.05 | Taintedwisp | for abilities anyways :P |
| 10:12.38 | MasterWrath | Sorry, better than periodic offset + random offset flag, I meant |
| 10:12.46 | MasterWrath | If you're trying to get random positions |
| 10:12.53 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 10:13.08 | Taintedwisp | I prefer to Make my own Positions |
| 10:13.15 | Taintedwisp | I usually make mine into certain shapes |
| 10:13.27 | Taintedwisp | Like a star, or smiley face :P |
| 10:13.41 | MasterWrath | >.< |
| 10:13.52 | MasterWrath | lol |
| 10:14.02 | MasterWrath | I have not seen a single ability of yours that wasn't silly XD |
| 10:15.57 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 10:15.59 | Taintedwisp | I try hard |
| 10:16.12 | MasterWrath | I guess all mine are pretty serious |
| 10:16.15 | Taintedwisp | As long as they are practical why not have some fun |
| 10:16.15 | MasterWrath | I should make a silly one |
| 10:16.36 | Taintedwisp | make a smiley out of droppods :P |
| 10:16.41 | Taintedwisp | and then have clones in the droppods |
| 10:16.54 | MasterWrath | ... |
| 10:17.03 | MasterWrath | Do you have ADD lol |
| 10:17.14 | MasterWrath | Sorry, that could be offensive. |
| 10:17.18 | Taintedwisp | actually yes... |
| 10:17.19 | Taintedwisp | ahhaha |
| 10:17.22 | Taintedwisp | no offense |
| 10:17.31 | Taintedwisp | the doctor claims i am cured so its all good |
| 10:17.39 | MasterWrath | Hahaha |
| 10:17.41 | MasterWrath | "Cured"? |
| 10:17.45 | MasterWrath | Pitty. |
| 10:17.49 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 10:18.08 | MasterWrath | You remind me of Calvin, from Calvin and Hobbes. :D |
| 10:18.10 | MasterWrath | Good thing. |
| 10:18.15 | Taintedwisp | well "Grew out of it" |
| 10:18.22 | Taintedwisp | Wtf is calvin and hobbes |
| 10:18.34 | MasterWrath | For shame sir |
| 10:18.35 | MasterWrath | For shame |
| 10:21.11 | Taintedwisp | so... |
| 10:21.16 | Taintedwisp | where you at on that droppod ability |
| 10:21.22 | MasterWrath | Dang Compare Cooldown validator eludes me |
| 10:21.26 | MasterWrath | lol |
| 10:21.31 | MasterWrath | I'm not on it XP |
| 10:21.41 | MasterWrath | Not my cup of tea anyways |
| 10:21.45 | Taintedwisp | It would actually be very easy, a periodic effect with13 periods, then presice offsets |
| 10:21.59 | Taintedwisp | Then just have create unit and for the effect put the droppod effect the build ability uses and BOOMK |
| 10:22.01 | Taintedwisp | DAMN IM GOOD |
| 10:22.01 | MasterWrath | I know |
| 10:22.39 | Taintedwisp | you better know I AM FUCKING AMAZING |
| 10:22.40 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 10:22.57 | MasterWrath | Pshhh lol |
| 10:23.32 | MasterWrath | I will concede that you are "FUCKING AMAZING" |
| 10:23.33 | MasterWrath | IF |
| 10:23.37 | MasterWrath | You can make this ability: |
| 10:23.46 | MasterWrath | Target an area |
| 10:24.00 | MasterWrath | A beam comes down from the sky |
| 10:24.09 | MasterWrath | And does damage |
| 10:24.11 | MasterWrath | In a circle |
| 10:24.13 | MasterWrath | Like |
| 10:24.15 | MasterWrath | It moves in a circle |
| 10:24.19 | MasterWrath | Around that point |
| 10:24.28 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 10:24.38 | MasterWrath | You target a point, then a beam |
| 10:24.43 | MasterWrath | As if coming from a ship in space |
| 10:24.52 | MasterWrath | Comes down from the sky |
| 10:25.01 | MasterWrath | And carves out a circle around that point |
| 10:25.05 | MasterWrath | With whatever radius, IDC |
| 10:25.10 | Taintedwisp | masterwrath |
| 10:25.11 | MasterWrath | Dealing damage to units on that circle |
| 10:25.11 | Taintedwisp | you are fail |
| 10:25.14 | Taintedwisp | here it is, http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ht0ompIHXJI#t=79s |
| 10:25.30 | MasterWrath | No no no |
| 10:25.39 | MasterWrath | A single beam |
| 10:25.42 | MasterWrath | Whose impact location |
| 10:25.44 | MasterWrath | Moves in a circle |
| 10:26.15 | Taintedwisp | oh kay? i would have to open my editor but it shouldnt be too hard |
| 10:26.24 | Taintedwisp | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:26.29 | MasterWrath | :P Good luck |
| 10:26.37 | MasterWrath | It's not that simple |
| 10:27.03 | JademusSreg | Beams are pretty. |
| 10:27.19 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/BossXelNagaAI.SC2Map |
| 10:27.23 | JademusSreg | Lots of beams. |
| 10:27.50 | MasterWrath | Okay |
| 10:27.56 | MasterWrath | I have to bitch about something for a second |
| 10:28.00 | MasterWrath | My roommate is disgusting |
| 10:28.03 | MasterWrath | jasdgjklajklsdgjkl |
| 10:28.31 | MasterWrath | Absolutely disgusting |
| 10:28.58 | JademusSreg | The spawned mobs have aoe electrical beams and repair beams. The laser turrets around the perimeter shoot beams. If you attack the shield the wrong shield drone, they shoot beams, if you attack the shield, all the turrets shoot beams. Basically, beams. All the beams. |
| 10:29.19 | MasterWrath | lol |
| 10:29.22 | MasterWrath | Beams are purty |
| 10:29.29 | ployne | 1) How do I offset the position of an attached Model on SOpAttachOverhead so that it is higher over the head? |
| 10:29.41 | JademusSreg | With a site op offset. |
| 10:30.03 | ployne | 2) How do I make it so that there is a bar seen by all players over the caster that shows how long is left until the channeled effect ends? |
| 10:30.08 | JademusSreg | Anyway, nap time. Hi ho silver, away. |
| 10:30.30 | JademusSreg | rides a photon cycle into the sunset/sunrise. |
| 10:30.44 | MasterWrath | Buh-bye Jademus |
| 10:31.08 | ployne | can'T find any Site Op Offset field :( |
| 10:31.23 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: tried everything, seems like art tools' bug, gonna report it |
| 10:31.41 | Taintedwisp | did you try adding a bone? |
| 10:32.05 | MasterWrath | Site Op Offset isn't a field |
| 10:32.07 | MasterWrath | It's an actor type |
| 10:32.20 | MasterWrath | You need to make one and it put in Hosting: Host Operations - Operations |
| 10:32.20 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 10:32.22 | MasterWrath | Or something like that |
| 10:32.29 | MasterWrath | Talking to ployne... |
| 10:32.47 | ployne | oh shi- |
| 10:32.50 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: yes, and attachment, and a meshL all parts of the model follow the unit, except the projection |
| 10:32.52 | ployne | thanks |
| 10:32.58 | ployne | any answers for Q2 too? :3 |
| 10:33.12 | MasterWrath | This is for an ability or? |
| 10:33.28 | MasterWrath | A behavior? |
| 10:35.32 | ployne | so I should have two "Host Site Operations", first is SOpAttachOverhead, second is my Local Offset thing with only the Local Offset field changed to whatever Iwanted? :) |
| 10:35.41 | ployne | it's for an Effect |
| 10:35.45 | ployne | @MAsterWrath |
| 10:36.20 | ployne | Offset worked perfectly, thanks |
| 10:36.49 | ployne | and actually, the Duration thing should be for a Behavior, and over the Target. :) |
| 10:37.41 | MasterWrath | For a behavior |
| 10:37.46 | MasterWrath | There is a field in UI |
| 10:37.49 | MasterWrath | Involving Countdown |
| 10:37.56 | MasterWrath | Fool around w/ that |
| 10:38.06 | MasterWrath | Sorry, a UI field on the behavior |
| 10:38.18 | ployne | ah, that's easy. :D |
| 10:38.38 | ployne | what mystifies me, then, is the fact that the ability my partner designed already has that bar, but it just didn't work, and I don't know where it comes from |
| 10:38.44 | ployne | It worked during an Effect. |
| 10:40.29 | MasterWrath | It could be that the ability itself |
| 10:40.39 | MasterWrath | Had one of the countdowns displayed |
| 10:40.49 | MasterWrath | You can do that for cast, channel, finish, etc. etc. |
| 10:40.53 | MasterWrath | It's a field on the ability |
| 10:41.14 | ployne | ah |
| 10:41.21 | ployne | there is a Progress field for Channel |
| 10:41.30 | ployne | I wonder why it didn't work properly though, but whatever :P |
| 10:42.43 | MasterWrath | The different ability phases |
| 10:42.51 | MasterWrath | Have to be actually run through the ability's data |
| 10:42.57 | MasterWrath | Not a behavior's duration |
| 10:43.02 | MasterWrath | It's confusing. :) |
| 10:43.08 | ployne | ah |
| 10:43.12 | ployne | well thanks. :) |
| 10:43.19 | ployne | that was two quick fixes. :D |
| 10:43.38 | Zolden | Dustin|Home: if you was going to use that hero glow, use this one http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/36/214/hero_grow_splat.rar |
| 10:43.41 | Zolden | it will follow |
| 10:43.53 | ployne | G'night all. |
| 10:43.57 | ployne | 5h45am here ;D |
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| 11:21.04 | Taintedwisp | Zolden I am going to bed but two things first, 1. It isnt spawning every time, and 2. Can you make it work on top of terrain opjects? instead of disapearing? And thanks for making it follow the units correctly. |
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| 12:15.02 | G0A | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/8788769 |
| 12:29.42 | Zolden | who created this mod? chinese? |
| 12:30.59 | G0A | yes |
| 12:31.17 | G0A | it seems like it need 5 guy and years for that mod which is lol for a card game |
| 12:32.04 | Zolden | yes |
| 12:32.06 | G0A | dam I am love youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bJ2GTN5FiE |
| 12:32.12 | Zolden | but they made it look like a standalone game |
| 12:33.20 | G0A | again its a card game, its not hard to make it look standalone game |
| 12:33.28 | G0A | they dont need any custom models for that... |
| 12:34.35 | Zolden | maybe these chinese guys had to work on rice plantations all day and hadn't much time to work on the map |
| 12:35.26 | G0A | :) |
| 12:36.02 | G0A | "maybe these chinese guys have normal job not like us:) " |
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| 13:48.55 | Dogmai | Like in China is good |
| 13:48.59 | Dogmai | Life* |
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| 14:14.32 | twodie | time to time you just want to jump of the building |
| 14:14.39 | twodie | off |
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| 14:33.24 | Dogmai | i love cinematic work |
| 14:33.27 | Dogmai | i miss it so much |
| 14:33.33 | Dogmai | not using the new editor, just using triggers like in wc3 |
| 14:59.36 | Zolden | another ribbon driven skirt experiment http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zaD9q6Vvu4 |
| 15:04.03 | Dustin|Home | mornin gents |
| 15:04.30 | Dustin|Home | Zolden, that's sick |
| 15:06.39 | G0A | yes thats fucking sick |
| 15:07.21 | Zolden | actually it isn't as cool as it could be because i faild to make ribbons collide with meshes |
| 15:07.22 | G0A | can you do fps test with comparing map with 100 marine on move and 100 unit with ribbon on move? |
| 15:08.03 | Zolden | i can predict how bad it will lag |
| 15:08.27 | G0A | will it badly lag?:) |
| 15:08.31 | Zolden | those 2 ribbons I used for the skirt consist of 1000 triangles |
| 15:08.40 | G0A | haha:) |
| 15:09.02 | Zolden | so, 100 marines with skirt will lag as 100 marines + 30 drones |
| 15:09.38 | Zolden | and now i'll experiment |
| 15:11.17 | G0A | well you can never know what kind of inefficient programing SC2 engine has. It may lag like shit. |
| 15:11.28 | Zolden | yea, let's see |
| 15:16.40 | Zolden | and where am i supposed to check fps? |
| 15:16.46 | Zolden | f10 menu button is gone |
| 15:16.57 | twodie | menu |
| 15:17.02 | twodie | button still does same thing |
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| 15:17.07 | tehbone | how do i change unit names now? |
| 15:17.12 | twodie | ctrl + alt + f |
| 15:17.12 | Ahli | ctrl alt f |
| 15:17.20 | twodie | too shows fps |
| 15:17.49 | Ahli | doubleclick units in data to change their unit name? |
| 15:18.09 | Zolden | ty |
| 15:18.16 | Ahli | or select them with the mouse and enter, or select them and edit the name field on the right side of the screen |
| 15:18.42 | tehbone | yeah found it... this split into green/blue/gray is confusing |
| 15:18.52 | tehbone | is there an option to change it back? |
| 15:20.04 | Zolden | 128 skirted models on screen -> fps = 54 |
| 15:21.06 | twodie | how about movement? |
| 15:21.55 | Ahli | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpfQSqfpuac that background singer is awesome |
| 15:22.00 | Zolden | no change on movement |
| 15:22.11 | Zolden | 128 marines -> fps = 52 |
| 15:22.26 | Zolden | so, ribbon calculations are cheap |
| 15:22.28 | Ahli | now enable antialias |
| 15:22.39 | Zolden | ok |
| 15:23.23 | Zolden | 128 marines + anitialias -> fps = 43 |
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| 15:25.18 | Zolden | 128 models with skirt + anitialias -> fps = 45 |
| 15:25.41 | Zolden | looks like only the amount of trriangles matters |
| 15:26.15 | Zolden | ribbons are calculated with the same code as particles |
| 15:26.25 | Zolden | and particles calculated fast |
| 15:36.58 | Ahli | now make hawaian defense |
| 15:39.05 | Zolden | i wish i had a proportional woman body for it, but i suck at creating humans, I even faild trying to increase nova's boobs |
| 15:43.28 | twodie | red alert 2 fps http://youtu.be/pmsdmUGtuMo |
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| 15:47.39 | twodie | zenxu look: http://youtu.be/pmsdmUGtuMo |
| 15:47.57 | Ahli | crazy :D |
| 15:49.16 | zenxu | well |
| 15:49.26 | zenxu | I am dissapointed for another fps/tps project |
| 15:49.29 | zenxu | that fails |
| 15:49.47 | zenxu | cant be impressed by something that is totally out of place |
| 15:50.04 | zenxu | that is not for sc2 is it? |
| 15:50.05 | zenxu | :_D |
| 15:50.24 | twodie | its for cnc renegade mod |
| 15:50.34 | zenxu | *sght |
| 15:50.38 | zenxu | why would I care for that |
| 15:50.58 | twodie | hey you dont care about it then stfu ;( |
| 15:53.35 | zenxu | btw' |
| 15:53.41 | zenxu | wanted to ask if the SCU is any good? |
| 15:54.01 | twodie | no |
| 15:54.16 | twodie | not one bit fun |
| 15:54.27 | zenxu | not sure if serious or not |
| 15:54.33 | zenxu | can I get a second opinion |
| 15:55.03 | twodie | serious |
| 15:55.19 | twodie | i heard here before about him |
| 15:55.26 | twodie | so saying not even my own opinion |
| 15:55.42 | zenxu | him? its a mod/map |
| 15:55.48 | zenxu | with a penis? |
| 15:56.13 | zenxu | but on serious note |
| 15:56.24 | zenxu | it doesnt look interesting enough to even get to bnet to play it |
| 15:56.28 | Dustin|Home | Whata re you guys doinggg |
| 15:56.43 | Dustin|Home | zenxu, |
| 15:56.45 | Dustin|Home | SCU is awesome |
| 15:56.49 | twodie | making cnc stuff |
| 15:57.31 | zenxu | 1 for awesome 1 for it sucks |
| 15:57.43 | zenxu | so 5/10 |
| 15:57.53 | Dustin|Home | The cinematics are crazy good |
| 15:58.04 | Dustin|Home | Everything is so polished and the story was better than SC2's imo |
| 15:58.31 | Ahli | scu is a map that you play once to see cinamatics... not for gameplay =/ |
| 15:58.50 | Dustin|Home | Right now ya |
| 15:59.03 | Ahli | maybe I just dislike the control scheme with tab for targetting help |
| 15:59.06 | Dustin|Home | I dont understand how they are going to have the map space to make the whole game |
| 15:59.11 | Ahli | has wow the same one? |
| 15:59.15 | Dustin|Home | yes |
| 15:59.22 | Dustin|Home | its exactly like WoW combat |
| 15:59.26 | Ahli | thank god that I never played wow |
| 15:59.43 | Dustin|Home | I still cant believe you never played wow |
| 15:59.47 | zenxu | d3 had great cinematics |
| 15:59.49 | Ahli | would have hated it then :D |
| 15:59.52 | zenxu | but the game sucked pretty much |
| 16:00.01 | zenxu | so its not really a point I care too much in game |
| 16:00.05 | zenxu | to have awesome cinematics |
| 16:00.36 | Dustin|Home | Well thats all ths SCU preview release is pretty mucha tm |
| 16:00.39 | Dustin|Home | And some cool boss fights |
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| 16:18.24 | tehbone | is there a way to hide the "neutral unit, you can not control it" text? |
| 16:18.59 | Dogmai | go into the text editor and remove it? |
| 16:19.02 | Dogmai | blank it out maybe |
| 16:19.04 | Dogmai | not sure |
| 16:19.07 | Dogmai | Dustin|Home: i never played wow |
| 16:20.23 | twodie | you are unbelievable! |
| 16:29.53 | G0A | Wow Zolden , so they did that right, now I can use crazy models:) |
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| 16:54.08 | Zolden | stole Mona Lisa portrait from Louvre and planted evidence pointing towards duckies |
| 16:55.03 | Dustin|Home | Dogmai WUT |
| 16:55.05 | Dustin|Home | 'Noway |
| 16:56.42 | Dogmai | wut? |
| 16:56.47 | Dogmai | way |
| 16:57.05 | Dogmai | I knew how addictive it would be, I didn't touch it with a ten foot pole |
| 16:57.29 | Dogmai | In fact, the only time I have ever seen the game aside from a few youtube videos is when I was in Malaysia checking out the dota scene |
| 16:59.05 | Dustin|Home | Oh ya thats right |
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| 17:13.36 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
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| 17:22.58 | Bounty | Well, Blizzard broke my entire third/first person WASD system |
| 17:23.02 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:23.05 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:23.08 | Bounty | unfixable |
| 17:23.20 | Bounty | So much for ever returning |
| 17:23.28 | JademusSreg | Move via trigger making shit act weird? |
| 17:23.46 | Bounty | apparently you cant walk straight anymore |
| 17:23.55 | JademusSreg | Haha, wat? |
| 17:23.56 | Bounty | it always goes alittle off of the direction it should |
| 17:24.01 | Bounty | yeah |
| 17:24.06 | JademusSreg | That's interesting. |
| 17:24.17 | Bounty | just emailed them, told them kthx bye' |
| 17:24.54 | Bounty | broke all of my maps except Gnolls VS Trolls bc it doesnt use WASD lol |
| 17:25.27 | JademusSreg | Some streamer on TL was playing that, I recall. |
| 17:25.40 | Bounty | yeah |
| 17:25.41 | Bounty | ChanmanV |
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| 17:25.44 | Bounty | with EGMachine |
| 17:25.59 | Bounty | Blizz told him to play it |
| 17:26.05 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 17:26.09 | Bounty | Bc its the only game of mine that works now i guess |
| 17:26.31 | JademusSreg | People are pulling strings. You should be flattered. =D |
| 17:26.59 | Bounty | They're did the same thing for Star Battle, so not really |
| 17:27.04 | Bounty | They did* |
| 17:27.05 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:27.30 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 17:28.49 | Bounty | I'm just alittle upset that after having just pitched the Smash Bros concept to them i find out i can't even do it and i can't fix any of my games |
| 17:30.22 | JademusSreg | Merely seems that this level of exposure is useful. Rather than acting on one's feeling in the moment, you could leverage your notoriety. You are Mister Ling-Ling Rocket, afterall. |
| 17:30.38 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:31.00 | Bounty | Yeah to bad even after he streamed it for 2 hours it still has no more reviews than it did before :) |
| 17:31.14 | Bounty | and i am Mister WASD fyi |
| 17:31.22 | Bounty | but apparently i can't do that anymore haha |
| 17:31.33 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 17:31.34 | Bounty | so may as well be Mr Ling Ling Rocket |
| 17:31.52 | JademusSreg | Is it a bug with the move unit action? |
| 17:31.59 | Bounty | nah |
| 17:32.12 | Bounty | you hit W and your guy goes slightly to the left |
| 17:32.31 | Bounty | has to be a bug with the numbers |
| 17:32.37 | Bounty | degrees |
| 17:32.40 | Bounty | facing or something |
| 17:32.50 | JademusSreg | tests his map with wasd controls. |
| 17:32.57 | Bounty | but that has to be a bug on their part bc there is no error in the system i use |
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| 17:36.01 | Bommes | Hm, my WASD system seems fine as far as I can tell |
| 17:36.23 | Bommes | Or does it only break when I use the 2.0.4 editor to save the map? |
| 17:36.33 | Bommes | I just tried an older map and used the sc2switcher to test it |
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| 17:36.38 | Bounty | these are old maps on bnet |
| 17:36.46 | Bounty | photon discs and haunted forest to be specific |
| 17:36.51 | Bommes | mine is not uploaded though |
| 17:36.56 | JademusSreg | My WASD system is working fine as well. |
| 17:36.58 | Zolden | is Enumerate Area validator - the one which changes result depending on the amount of troops around? |
| 17:37.08 | Bounty | no idea what it is then |
| 17:37.15 | Bounty | and the sounds on haunted forest are bugged |
| 17:37.15 | JademusSreg | Zol, wat? |
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| 17:37.42 | Bounty | Its like they intentionally bug all maps to trick map makers to return |
| 17:37.46 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:38.23 | sharf224 | hey guys, can someone give me a hand with buffs? |
| 17:38.28 | Zolden | JademusSreg: I want validator to = false if there are units around and = true if no units around, and it's the enumerate area one? |
| 17:38.30 | JademusSreg | I could understand wanting to mess with modders, but I doubt it. =D |
| 17:38.40 | JademusSreg | Zol, yes. |
| 17:38.43 | Zolden | ok |
| 17:39.07 | Zolden | still getting familiar with english translation |
| 17:39.40 | JademusSreg | No worries. |
| 17:39.57 | JademusSreg | Bounty, if you need help fixing shit, let me know. |
| 17:40.20 | Bounty | I really dont think this stuff is fixable lol |
| 17:40.55 | Bounty | esp the sfx for Haunted Forest |
| 17:40.59 | JademusSreg | Most shit is fixable, but it's not always an efficient use of time to do so. |
| 17:41.37 | Bounty | Will most likely take days to fix this stuff if it is fixable |
| 17:41.38 | JademusSreg | The only thing I noticed was different on my demo was that all the shadows looked like shit. |
| 17:41.55 | Bounty | No worth it imo |
| 17:42.00 | JademusSreg | kk |
| 17:42.19 | Bounty | Blizz can fix it lol |
| 17:42.28 | Bounty | since they love my maps so much now apparently haha |
| 17:42.52 | Bounty | also, lol @ SCU not being on the top 10 played maps |
| 17:42.59 | Bounty | should be a crime |
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| 17:43.27 | JademusSreg | Could be they fixed a subtle bug, and that broke shit because everyone assumed what is actually a bug was its intended function. |
| 17:43.47 | Bounty | Normally i would think that |
| 17:43.53 | Bounty | but 90 degrees = 90 degrees |
| 17:43.56 | Bounty | facing |
| 17:43.57 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:44.07 | iMisu | FUCK |
| 17:44.08 | JademusSreg | Enjoyed SCU? |
| 17:44.13 | Bounty | not really |
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| 17:44.27 | Bounty | but it should still be played more |
| 17:44.32 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 17:44.36 | Bounty | i just dont like the UI and camera |
| 17:44.41 | Dustin|Home | I wish I could have played SCU offline |
| 17:44.54 | JademusSreg | Didn't they add an offline play mode? |
| 17:45.01 | Bounty | ha |
| 17:45.06 | Dustin|Home | I thought I read something about that, but I ahvnet seen it |
| 17:45.16 | JademusSreg | (And also, Take Command, the single greatest feature in the history of RTS games?) |
| 17:45.33 | Bounty | The only offline mode news ive heard from Blizzard in the last week or so has been Diablo 3 on PS3 |
| 17:46.14 | TheSkunk___ | there is offline in SC2 but for some reason it seems to not work on arcade maps |
| 17:46.18 | TheSkunk___ | unless you can't connect |
| 17:46.21 | TheSkunk___ | to battle.net at all |
| 17:46.26 | JademusSreg | You must dl the maps first. |
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| 17:46.54 | JademusSreg | Or at least that's what the tube said. |
| 17:49.22 | JademusSreg | Interesting. Move abilities have a Move Smart Priority field. |
| 17:50.34 | Bounty | dafuq is that |
| 17:50.45 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38hlxUuzx2o |
| 17:51.30 | JademusSreg | Presumably, it allows one to configure the priority move takes in smart click commands. |
| 17:53.06 | Dustin|Home | JADE |
| 17:53.07 | twodie | is the guest still presists: Is iMisu a woman? |
| 17:53.09 | Dustin|Home | I think that's what I need |
| 17:53.17 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 17:53.19 | Dustin|Home | Remember my couldnt smart click attack allys |
| 17:53.21 | JademusSreg | Yep. |
| 17:53.25 | JademusSreg | That's why I mentioned it. |
| 17:53.29 | Dustin|Home | Interesting |
| 17:54.55 | tehbone | Is the preview image still used anywhere? |
| 17:55.36 | Bounty | What did they even "add" to the editor? |
| 17:55.46 | Bounty | Just seems like we have physics and lots of broken maps |
| 17:55.52 | JademusSreg | Stuff. =D |
| 17:55.57 | iMisu | <twodie>is the guest still presists: Is iMisu a woman? |
| 17:56.01 | iMisu | What the fuck does this mean |
| 17:56.05 | tehbone | ehm data is now sorted into green/blue/gray and a new test icon |
| 17:56.07 | JademusSreg | Engimatic additions like Herds and Herd Nodes. |
| 17:56.25 | Bounty | So basically nothing |
| 17:56.31 | Bounty | lol |
| 17:56.59 | Dustin|Home | I actually had none of my maps break really |
| 17:57.06 | Dustin|Home | Had to fix a dialog and label in one map |
| 17:57.07 | Bounty | all of mine are broke |
| 17:57.13 | JademusSreg | Also, Dustin, abilities have a field Alignment that sets their priorities for allies and enemies. =D |
| 17:57.15 | Bounty | no like, little bug broke |
| 17:57.20 | Bounty | i mean BORKED |
| 17:57.31 | sharf224 | can I get a hand with buffs? |
| 17:57.33 | JademusSreg | So a custom Attack ability with a neutral alignment may fix it, as well. |
| 17:57.42 | Dustin|Home | Gonna check that out now Jade |
| 17:57.50 | Zolden | guys, how does my hero picks up an artifact? I did it the right way, but long time ago and don't remember |
| 17:58.07 | JademusSreg | sharf, always just launch straight into the subject; don't ask to ask. |
| 17:58.27 | JademusSreg | Zol, do you mean items or powerups? |
| 17:58.32 | Bounty | That is also how you get laid Sharf |
| 17:58.38 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 17:58.39 | Bounty | Dont ask, just go for it |
| 17:58.58 | Bounty | and cross your fingers |
| 17:59.02 | Zolden | JademusSreg: items |
| 17:59.17 | Zolden | I found that hero has inventory abil |
| 17:59.20 | Zolden | maybe it's there |
| 17:59.34 | JademusSreg | I've actually not got around to ever using items, so I have no specific advice there. |
| 18:00.44 | Zolden | well, it's the inventory abil, it has take command |
| 18:01.32 | Zolden | guys, does inventory abil's validators+ field decides wether or not hero can pick up the item |
| 18:04.12 | sharf224 | alright then, I have two abilities, each have a cool down and apply a temporary buff, I want it so they don't stack, so like, if buff a is active, you can't use ability b, and if buff a is active, you can't use ability a |
| 18:04.23 | JademusSreg | Badass. A move smart priority of 0 disables it. |
| 18:04.36 | JademusSreg | Finally, commandable followers. |
| 18:05.09 | JademusSreg | Modification > Abilities |
| 18:05.27 | Dustin|Home | :O |
| 18:05.27 | JademusSreg | Buffs can disable/enable abilities. |
| 18:06.00 | Dustin|Home | I made my buff do that |
| 18:06.06 | Dustin|Home | But it just hides/shows them |
| 18:06.56 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 18:09.06 | sharf224 | I can't believe it's that simple and that I missed it |
| 18:09.22 | sharf224 | thanks, but there is a minor snag |
| 18:09.27 | sharf224 | when you disable the ability |
| 18:09.35 | sharf224 | it pauses the cooldown timer |
| 18:09.40 | sharf224 | can I keep it from doing that? |
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| 18:10.31 | Zolden | rubbing his hands: worked |
| 18:11.23 | JademusSreg | Hm. |
| 18:12.43 | JademusSreg | In that case, instead of a modification, add a requirement to the ability/command card. |
| 18:14.42 | Dustin|Home | fuck |
| 18:14.49 | Dustin|Home | Setting smart priority to 0 is bad |
| 18:15.35 | sharf224 | what req do I use to detect that the buff is in use? |
| 18:16.28 | JademusSreg | Go to the Requirements data tab, add new "Doesn't Have Buff" or whatever name you like, go to Requirement field array, at Use add requirement node Equals, to Equals add Count Behavior, alias set to the name of the behavior, state Completed at Unit, add to Equals a constant of 0. |
| 18:19.58 | Dustin|Home | hmm |
| 18:20.10 | Dustin|Home | Cant seem to get attack smart priority to override the move |
| 18:20.16 | sharf224 | perfect! thanks |
| 18:21.19 | Dustin|Home | Gonna set this attack alignment to neutreal |
| 18:21.23 | Dustin|Home | neutral* |
| 18:22.43 | Dustin|Home | nope |
| 18:22.49 | Dustin|Home | Fuck it, Ill just stick to my trigger hack |
| 18:23.30 | JademusSreg | Haha |
| 18:23.49 | JademusSreg | I have a nice follower minion that can be issued commands, but not made to move. |
| 18:28.28 | Dustin|Home | Thats sick jade |
| 18:28.45 | JademusSreg | <3 |
| 18:29.36 | twodie | http://youtu.be/y8qK-N8H8a8 |
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| 18:34.35 | sharf224 | ok new question, can I use an ability to give a unit shields? like, the unit has 0 shields, you push the button, it gives him 50 shieds. The kicker is, I don't want the unit to have an empty shield bar when he has no shields. I also don't want it to show say, 300 shields, but level 1 of the aiblity only fills it 1/3 to 100 shields |
| 18:37.34 | JademusSreg | Sharf, behavior buff can do it. |
| 18:37.58 | sharf224 | when I tried that |
| 18:38.02 | sharf224 | it didn't give him anything |
| 18:39.36 | sharf224 | I would use modification - unit tab right? |
| 18:39.58 | JademusSreg | Effect - Instant ability > Apply Behavior effect > Buff behavior > Stats: Duration: non-zero value, Stats: Duration Vital Max Bonuses set shield value and ditto for Vitals bonuses. |
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| 18:40.47 | Oatin | Look at the hero Tosh, he has this ability |
| 18:40.59 | Oatin | Psi shield if im not mistaken |
| 18:41.55 | JademusSreg | Also, taking the time to tinker with shit and figuring out how it works is of more benefit than getting information fed to you. You won't break the map by trying crazy things. =D |
| 18:42.21 | JademusSreg | (Alternately, a Behavior ability would work as well. =D ) |
| 18:44.20 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 18:44.35 | sharf224 | Hmm I don't have time to mess around with it right now, but I'm going to look into it. tosh's ability is almost what I want. Thanks guys |
| 18:49.51 | Zolden | twodie: guess what map I just edited |
| 18:50.04 | twodie | mine? you fag :/ |
| 18:50.30 | Zolden | how can I edit the map you never gave me |
| 18:50.48 | Zolden | more ideas? |
| 18:52.08 | twodie | Creating CnC? |
| 18:52.30 | Zolden | how can i create a map you creating yet |
| 18:52.37 | Zolden | any more ideas? |
| 18:52.44 | twodie | HoMM? |
| 18:52.48 | Zolden | yes! |
| 18:52.53 | twodie | :/ |
| 18:53.03 | Zolden | why ";/" |
| 18:53.08 | Zolden | you wish me to create cnc? |
| 18:54.16 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/ |
| 18:54.19 | twodie | no, im just generally disappointed |
| 18:54.41 | Zolden | :/ |
| 18:57.12 | JademusSreg | C&C maps? http://i.imgur.com/NG36n.gif |
| 18:57.27 | twodie | hmmm |
| 18:57.30 | JademusSreg | bbl++ |
| 18:58.28 | Zolden | i don't get this, what's "ip wanking"? |
| 18:58.58 | Zolden | is bbl++ supposed to visually describe penis masturbation process? |
| 18:59.32 | Ahli | can anyone read korean? |
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| 19:01.15 | Zolden | I can read korean as good as peter griffing speak italian http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JhuOicPFZY |
| 19:02.28 | evily | which would be more effecient or performance optimised? 4 triggers with a timer each, or one trigger with a timer with all the stuff in |
| 19:04.46 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Campaign / Conversation States - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/campaign/conversation-states/ |
| 19:05.27 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Campaign / Conversations - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/campaign/conversations/ |
| 19:09.11 | JademusSreg | (Be Back Later with an post-increment operator, which is to say one will return again. IP Wanking is refers to exploiting a brand / "intellectual property" for its popularity or notoriety rather than, ya know, making novel shit.) |
| 19:09.22 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/ |
| 19:11.53 | Dustin|Home | Anyone know where to disable a player leaving shairng his resources with the group |
| 19:12.03 | twodie | http://youtu.be/0eBDqubJQdY |
| 19:12.11 | twodie | no we don! |
| 19:12.13 | twodie | ZT |
| 19:12.39 | twodie | some solution know is to save to integers players resources |
| 19:12.56 | twodie | and after leaving the game remove the amounts from ally players |
| 19:13.18 | Dustin|Home | Do we know how its splits it exactly? |
| 19:13.26 | Oatin | Dustin |
| 19:13.54 | Oatin | Melee - Enable/Disable Melee Option For Player |
| 19:14.03 | Oatin | There is an option for splitting |
| 19:14.18 | Oatin | It was added not long ago |
| 19:14.59 | twodie | cool |
| 19:15.38 | Dustin|Home | What's weird that wouldnt be set to Disabled by default |
| 19:15.56 | Dustin|Home | TY Oatin |
| 19:16.19 | Oatin | np :) Have never used it before but I remembered reading somewhere that they added the Trigger |
| 19:16.28 | Oatin | And there is is |
| 19:16.30 | Oatin | *it |
| 19:16.49 | twodie | here you go cnc http://snag.gy/NsVL8.jpg |
| 19:19.08 | Zolden | how to highlight a button? how ppl usuall ydo this? |
| 19:19.18 | Oatin | the flash button thing? |
| 19:19.33 | Zolden | good job twodie |
| 19:19.34 | Oatin | In Dialog or Command Cards? |
| 19:19.45 | Zolden | Oatin: in dialog |
| 19:19.50 | Zolden | dialog item |
| 19:19.56 | Oatin | Hm |
| 19:20.35 | Oatin | No Idea |
| 19:20.51 | Oatin | Maybe they play around with the Background or Colors or etc |
| 19:21.09 | Oatin | And simulate flashing? |
| 19:22.40 | Zolden | i want to know the most common method from ppl who using it |
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| 19:48.35 | Vail | zap |
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| 19:58.02 | Dustin|Home | Wooo |
| 19:58.11 | Dustin|Home | Gotten alot of small polish/bug fixes made today |
| 19:59.40 | Zolden | smoke a joint then |
| 19:59.52 | Dustin|Home | Out of weed |
| 19:59.55 | Zolden | or you map being high? |
| 20:00.00 | Zolden | oh, poor you! |
| 20:00.04 | Dustin|Home | I do when I can :( |
| 20:02.10 | Zolden | i'd teleport you some, but my teleporter is broken |
| 20:02.32 | Zolden | I broke it when was high and tried to clean it, because a day before i teleported a minipig, and it shitted inside |
| 20:03.18 | Zolden | it actually died, but shitted first |
| 20:03.36 | Zolden | becasue all living creatures die when get teleported |
| 20:03.42 | Zolden | but i decided to try |
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| 20:08.28 | Dustin|Home | lolol |
| 20:08.37 | Dustin|Home | I got my wife out getting some after work |
| 20:08.40 | Dustin|Home | So we're all good |
| 20:09.07 | Zolden | good, i glad for you |
| 20:22.12 | zeldarules28 | Right, so I may have just found what is the strangest bug ever to exist within sc2 |
| 20:22.25 | zeldarules28 | Took me 3 hours to diagnose this one |
| 20:22.53 | zeldarules28 | Apparently, copying formatted text from outside the editor into a user type causes major problems, and all xml user types in the map |
| 20:23.15 | zeldarules28 | Maybe this warning will help somebody ^.^ |
| 20:28.26 | Vail | i dont get what user types are for so i dont use them my self |
| 20:29.03 | sc2println | you can use them as input for triggers |
| 20:29.11 | evily | im trying to get this lobby--> ingame starting loc and alliance settings to work. but is there a way to test it without having to publish map? can i get a lobby in offline mode? |
| 20:29.21 | Vail | i dont undertsand |
| 20:29.33 | sc2println | say you want to make a hero selection for your map |
| 20:29.47 | sc2println | a selectable hero has a title, model, and icon |
| 20:30.17 | sc2println | so you can create a custom type "SelectableHero" with values for each kind of hero |
| 20:30.49 | sc2println | the trigger can then simply iterate over all SelectableHero instances and create an UI for them |
| 20:31.46 | Vail | i understand the use |
| 20:31.47 | sc2println | when you just want to add selection UI for a new hero you can simply modify the data values and you don't need to touch the trigger |
| 20:32.01 | Vail | i dont see why they are wanted or needed? |
| 20:33.15 | sc2println | It's just a matter of taste |
| 20:34.02 | sc2println | like in the example, the data for the hero selection, is data and not code |
| 20:34.09 | Vail | i still dont get it but i guess its not important. |
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| 20:35.32 | Vail | untill i can fix some issues im having i will not need to worry about that stuff |
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| 20:37.11 | Vail | and its two weeks till i can work on my map again anyway so fuck me |
| 20:39.58 | sharf224 | ok this might be silly, but I want an attribute to give it's owner +1 armor per level...how? |
| 20:40.09 | sharf224 | only finding fraction... |
| 20:41.51 | Vail | Field CBehaviorAttribute (Basic) Unit: Modification |
| 20:42.04 | Vail | er |
| 20:42.14 | Vail | nevermind that it didnt copy the name |
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| 20:43.04 | Vail | i think you are looking for Life Armor bonus |
| 20:44.21 | sharf224 | thanks...I'm being stupid and missing obvious things today... |
| 20:44.55 | Vail | i think it happens to all of us at times |
| 20:45.04 | Ahli | zeldarules28: then report that problem http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/8126900/ |
| 20:45.16 | zeldarules28 | yeah, doing it now |
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| 20:45.59 | ployne | Hello world! |
| 20:46.08 | Ahli | lol at the guy with the firebat model in that forum... he loaded the file from mapster, he didnt load the texture, goes to blizz forums to tell that the texture is not correct... -.- |
| 20:46.21 | ployne | lol |
| 20:46.51 | sharf224 | anyone know if sc2 rounds at all? like if something is .99? |
| 20:46.56 | Ahli | hello youknowwho |
| 20:47.08 | ployne | TheOneWeMustNotPronounciateTheName |
| 20:47.42 | ployne | I thought my undercover state had been revealed when this IRC banned everyone temporarily yesterday night :P |
| 20:48.16 | ployne | Two questions to start the day: |
| 20:48.34 | ployne | 1) What does it mean when an Actor Event is Red instead of Green or Grey? |
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| 20:48.52 | ployne | 2) What is the Actor Event that lets me detect when a spell has been canceled? |
| 20:50.12 | Zolden | guys, how would you highlight a dialog button? |
| 20:50.52 | Ahli | red actor events have something to do with their generic base actors... that means you are lacking stuff that they updated in your events I think... I have no exact definition what it means that it is red, but that normally means that there is a difference to the generic actor base |
| 20:51.19 | Ahli | zolden, change images, wiat, change images again, wait again |
| 20:51.43 | Zolden | ok, lemme try |
| 20:52.01 | Vail | i thin Source Bail start or finish is the cancle property |
| 20:52.52 | Ahli | atm, red will mean for the most of your old unit actors, that the units don't have a fully working flying state tracking thingy |
| 20:53.02 | sharf224 | how would I go about making an attribute add 1 point every 3 levels? |
| 20:53.18 | Ahli | look at the end of the base actor class that your actor uses (parent) |
| 20:53.29 | Ahli | at the end of its events I mean |
| 20:53.36 | Ahli | there are like 3 new ones, I believe |
| 20:53.50 | sharf224 | I think I worded that wrong |
| 20:53.51 | Ahli | and that is causing the red stuff in some actors... if you got no problems, it might be fine |
| 20:53.59 | Ahli | I didn't answer you :D |
| 20:54.18 | Ahli | this was @ ployne's #1 |
| 20:54.26 | sharf224 | how would I make an attribute add 1/3 of an armor for every 1 point? so I need 3 in that attribute for armor, 6 for 2, etc |
| 20:54.31 | sharf224 | I know |
| 20:54.41 | sharf224 | but I still said it weird |
| 20:55.02 | Ahli | I don't know anything about attributes because I don't think I will ever require to use them. |
| 20:55.35 | sharf224 | lol |
| 20:55.40 | ployne | ahli, what do you mean by "difference to the generic actor base" ? Also, does it mean the actor event won't run properly? |
| 20:56.02 | Ahli | the event itself would be fine |
| 20:56.30 | sharf224 | well sc2 will interptate 0.99 as 0 correct? they floor everything right? |
| 20:56.44 | Ahli | for what, sharf224? real to integer? |
| 20:57.12 | sharf224 | well |
| 20:57.17 | sharf224 | Im applying an attribute bonus |
| 20:57.25 | sharf224 | err armor bonus |
| 20:57.35 | sharf224 | so if I set it to 1, it adds 1 every point |
| 20:57.43 | sharf224 | if I set it to 0.5 it will add 1 every point |
| 20:57.45 | ployne | vail, Source Bail would be the cancel property in terms of the caster deciding to stop, or cancel in terms of caster being interrupted? |
| 20:57.47 | Ahli | armor uses real value |
| 20:57.50 | ployne | I need the Interrupted one. |
| 20:57.56 | Ahli | you can have like 3.123 armor |
| 20:57.58 | sharf224 | but if I set it to 0.33 (1/3) it will take 4 points to level |
| 20:58.07 | sharf224 | hmm... |
| 20:58.10 | sharf224 | that makes it even worse lol |
| 20:58.32 | sharf224 | gonna have to do a hidden attribute with reqs I guess |
| 20:58.46 | Ahli | at least I think it does... doesn't make sense to me if it doesn't... |
| 20:59.25 | sharf224 | I believe you're right |
| 20:59.52 | sharf224 | and I don't actually think I can do what I just said lol |
| 21:00.38 | Ahli | do you have multiple heroes? |
| 21:00.41 | Ahli | I believe this is for heroes |
| 21:00.47 | Ahli | of the same type per player? |
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| 21:01.19 | Zolden | Ahli: what action changes dialog button's texture. For example, I want to change zerg style to protoss. |
| 21:01.35 | Ahli | if the answer is "No", then you can just trigger everything with catalog changes to the hero unit |
| 21:01.42 | sharf224 | 1 hero per player |
| 21:01.52 | Ahli | so the answer is no |
| 21:02.04 | Ahli | -> trigger whatever rules you require |
| 21:02.14 | Zolden | the answer is: let's dance everybody! |
| 21:02.25 | Ahli | you just accessed the ultimate freedom to do whatever you want with a hero :D |
| 21:02.47 | sharf224 | I dislike using triggers for unit stuff...but if I can't make a work around I will |
| 21:03.14 | Ahli | I dislike using data for hero stuff, because unflexible, breaks now and then and then I would require even more abilities |
| 21:03.17 | ployne | what is en Event Macro type of Actor? |
| 21:03.45 | Ahli | event macros are like lists of acctor events that are just added to the actor using the macro |
| 21:03.55 | sharf224 | well then I may be coming to you for some trigger abilities :P |
| 21:04.06 | Zolden | I prefer a hybrid between data and triggers for heroes |
| 21:04.15 | Taintedwisp | Zolden you get that hero glow to spawn everytime, and work on top of terrain objects? |
| 21:04.16 | Ahli | if they had done SC2 more user modder friendly, they would have used a macro instead of events in the generic actors |
| 21:04.48 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: yes, I think it's easy. Do you use unit or splat model type for hero glow? |
| 21:04.50 | Ahli | then you wouldn't see those stupid actor event problems every bigger patch :D |
| 21:05.01 | Taintedwisp | Unit MOdel I think |
| 21:05.06 | Taintedwisp | Model actor |
| 21:05.12 | Zolden | try splat model |
| 21:05.20 | Zolden | ALSO |
| 21:05.22 | Taintedwisp | ok\ |
| 21:05.31 | Zolden | how do you create the model add |
| 21:05.32 | Vail | ployne: i dont know |
| 21:05.36 | ployne | :( |
| 21:05.37 | sharf224 | I want a sc1 editor (not stock, maybe scmd2, sf, or xtra level) with the ability to just create more units and stuff |
| 21:05.43 | Taintedwisp | ? what you mean zolden? |
| 21:05.44 | Zolden | unit birth -> create? |
| 21:05.48 | Taintedwisp | Its just a Model actor |
| 21:05.51 | Ahli | zolden, image for button: set dialog item image and set dialog item hover image |
| 21:05.53 | Zolden | you have model addition actor, right? |
| 21:06.04 | Taintedwisp | I just use Unit birth.(unit) create, |
| 21:06.06 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 21:06.12 | Zolden | ok |
| 21:06.19 | Zolden | then try splat model first |
| 21:06.28 | Zolden | if won't fix, i'll change model |
| 21:06.31 | ployne | What's the difference between adding a new actor event and using a Macro to do so, then, ahli? |
| 21:06.35 | Zolden | Ahli: ok, ty |
| 21:07.01 | Ahli | macro was intended for stuff that you need to add to multiple actors |
| 21:07.18 | ployne | the "Event Macro" type of Actor I see doesn't have an entry in its Macro field, only in its Events+ field. |
| 21:07.44 | ployne | ah I see |
| 21:07.44 | Ahli | event macro is just a list of actor events... nothing more :D |
| 21:08.17 | ployne | How can it be possible to check "Play Forever" and "Non-looping"? D: |
| 21:08.19 | Taintedwisp | poontang is ass |
| 21:08.23 | ployne | (Animation Play Flags) |
| 21:08.33 | ployne | one of those macros have that :o |
| 21:08.56 | Vail | sharf224: what are you trying to do i have get a .5 per attribute level rise in life armor through the life armor bonus field |
| 21:09.31 | sharf224 | I want 1 armor per 3 attribute points |
| 21:09.32 | Ahli | maybe it plays one animation forever and it just stops looping the animation... so it freezes after finishing the animation |
| 21:09.42 | Ahli | once |
| 21:09.53 | Taintedwisp | Yo vail I implemented a new system last night into the map, Now units in 6 range of the hero allied or not get a buff depending on that heroes level |
| 21:10.09 | Vail | to what end? |
| 21:10.11 | Taintedwisp | at lvl 18 its a 45% buff |
| 21:10.40 | sharf224 | ? |
| 21:11.38 | Vail | ok |
| 21:12.21 | ployne | Okay, here is my actual problem: as it is, the Actor Events play Thor's Morph when he casts (or channels? I don't really understand the difference yet) his ability. However, when someone interrupts the Thor as it is morphing before shooting, the shooting is interrupted, but the Morph is -NOT- reverted back and the Thor is stuck in that morphed state which looks really weird. How do fix that? |
| 21:12.22 | Taintedwisp | but sharf224, 1/3 is mathmatically impossible to get an exact number :( |
| 21:12.39 | sharf224 | I know :/ |
| 21:12.55 | sharf224 | but I don't want fractions of armor either |
| 21:12.57 | ployne | 0,999....=1 :D |
| 21:13.06 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 21:13.14 | sharf224 | which is why I was thinking of using a req or trigger to add 1 per 3 levels |
| 21:13.17 | Taintedwisp | Sharf |
| 21:13.27 | Taintedwisp | How do you give the attribute points? |
| 21:13.27 | ployne | a Math Candy will be offered to anyone helping me fix my Thor ability :D |
| 21:13.32 | Taintedwisp | Is it throuigh the veterency |
| 21:13.32 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 21:13.35 | sharf224 | veterancy |
| 21:13.46 | Taintedwisp | Vail, sharf, you are scrubs :P |
| 21:13.56 | Taintedwisp | JUst do the math and assign the point manually ' |
| 21:14.13 | Taintedwisp | go through the Veterency and assign them :P |
| 21:14.23 | sharf224 | what do you mean? in the veterancy? |
| 21:14.25 | Taintedwisp | long as you dont have any crazy wacked out system like mine it will work |
| 21:14.41 | Taintedwisp | sharff, you can give armor per level |
| 21:14.51 | Taintedwisp | it just wont TECHNICALLY be given by the attribute |
| 21:14.56 | sharf224 | yea alright...guess I'll have to do that |
| 21:15.12 | sharf224 | that's fine |
| 21:15.25 | sharf224 | for the like...10 levels it will be fine |
| 21:15.28 | Taintedwisp | your players will never know though :P |
| 21:15.40 | sharf224 | exactly |
| 21:16.03 | sharf224 | why is it...everytime I try to modify something it breaks? |
| 21:16.21 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:17.23 | sharf224 | copy blizzards ability > change 1 field > doubles the value, wrong. change 2 fields > breaks |
| 21:19.03 | sharf224 | huzzah |
| 21:19.06 | ployne | No Math Candy distributed today? :( |
| 21:19.09 | ployne | "Okay, here is my actual problem: as it is, the Actor Events play Thor's Morph when he casts (or channels? I don't really understand the difference yet) his ability. However, when someone interrupts the Thor as it is morphing before shooting, the shooting is interrupted, but the Morph is -NOT- reverted back and the Thor is stuck in that morphed state which looks really weird. How do fix that?" |
| 21:19.09 | sharf224 | why it does that I have no idea... |
| 21:19.42 | sharf224 | so when both fields are non 0 they add...but when one is 0 the other gets dropped...the hell |
| 21:20.10 | sharf224 | oh god and now that one didn't go away... |
| 21:21.49 | sharf224 | I give up! |
| 21:23.44 | Vail | what feilds |
| 21:23.46 | Vail | ? |
| 21:24.46 | sharf224 | using tosh's psi shield ability, just trying to modify the amounts |
| 21:25.01 | sharf224 | and it is adding up the shield amounts from 2 behaviour |
| 21:27.30 | Ahli | Abil250mmStrikeCannons.SourceFinishStop -> AnimClear MorphEnd... that has the thor and that should work |
| 21:28.10 | Ahli | if not, try to add one with "Abilblehhhhhhhhhhhh.Cancel -> animclear whatever", too |
| 21:28.46 | Vail | whats the duration of the first sheild adding behavior |
| 21:29.33 | ployne | Thanks, I'll try that out. |
| 21:29.47 | sharf224 | one is 0 the other is 15 |
| 21:30.36 | Vail | are you just editing the ability or did you make one that is like it? |
| 21:30.56 | Vail | sorry i see |
| 21:31.16 | sharf224 | there is a dummy one |
| 21:31.19 | sharf224 | and the not dumy one |
| 21:31.33 | Vail | and they are being added together? |
| 21:31.36 | sharf224 | and if either is set to 0, it doesn't work, but if one is set they add |
| 21:31.49 | sharf224 | and now it's not removing 1 of the 2 when it ends lol |
| 21:31.58 | sharf224 | messed it up good...gonna have to restart it |
| 21:32.10 | Vail | may i take a look at your file? |
| 21:32.24 | Vail | i could likely straight it out if i could see |
| 21:32.28 | ployne | ahli |
| 21:32.33 | ployne | there are no "Cancel" options :/ |
| 21:32.52 | ployne | and I already had a SourceFinishStop, so I guess it doesn't work for some reason |
| 21:33.13 | Vail | straighten* |
| 21:34.00 | ployne | wait, isntead if Abliblehhh.x, I have Abil.blehhh.x |
| 21:34.05 | ployne | does the one dot actually change something? |
| 21:34.50 | ployne | I see "AbilMorph.x.Cancel", cuould that be it? |
| 21:34.55 | Taintedwisp | ... |
| 21:35.01 | Taintedwisp | That means its firing off when you cancel it |
| 21:35.19 | Taintedwisp | Its ability.(Ability name).(Ability state) |
| 21:35.36 | Taintedwisp | so forexample, Abil.Frenzystorm.Approach start |
| 21:35.46 | Taintedwisp | would fire off when you start to approach |
| 21:36.00 | Taintedwisp | yo Vail you doing anything inside the map atm? |
| 21:36.08 | Vail | nope |
| 21:36.26 | Taintedwisp | kk |
| 21:36.28 | Taintedwisp | imma do some stuff then |
| 21:36.31 | Vail | i was going to try to work on my own project but i need the Hots License before i can even edit it any more |
| 21:36.43 | Taintedwisp | Still gotta fix that outtro |
| 21:36.52 | Taintedwisp | haah |
| 21:38.33 | Vail | yeah i know its going to have to be redone as soon as i can figure out how again |
| 21:39.25 | Vail | i checked the triggers and soulcarver circumvinted the second haf of the cutscene |
| 21:39.58 | Vail | i took out the balloons and need to trigger it to play correctly now |
| 21:40.30 | ployne | taintedswip |
| 21:40.35 | ployne | which one would be "Interrupted"? |
| 21:41.23 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 21:41.33 | Taintedwisp | I dunno what options are there? |
| 21:41.44 | Taintedwisp | I guess Cancelled. |
| 21:41.55 | Taintedwisp | but technically they are not the same |
| 21:43.10 | ployne | actually |
| 21:43.18 | ployne | there are certain game events that should trigger that MorphEnd |
| 21:43.36 | ployne | what would be the Trigger Action to trigger an actor event? |
| 21:43.37 | Taintedwisp | for morphs you use Ability Morph |
| 21:43.39 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:44.06 | Taintedwisp | ployne you dont, you just send the actor message trhough the trigger and use the trigger events |
| 21:45.35 | ployne | :o |
| 21:45.40 | ployne | I'll see if I can make that happen |
| 21:45.46 | twodie | anyone here that have tiberium generation unit working? |
| 21:46.12 | Vail | do you want tiberium as a unit ? |
| 21:46.39 | sharf224 | sorry got busy |
| 21:46.58 | sharf224 | I want to make it my own way anyway so Im gonna try building it from scratch later |
| 21:46.58 | twodie | well want something like that to be generated |
| 21:50.29 | Oatin | Duh, does anyone know where to change the height of the mover? |
| 21:50.58 | Oatin | I'm changing the Hurricane Missile Mover to target ground, but the Missiles "die" in the air |
| 21:52.01 | ployne | so I send actor message "Animation Clear" to the Thor unit, but I can't select "Morph End": there are no options avaiable :( |
| 21:53.42 | ployne | also, can I use "Picked Unit" for a SendActorMsg? |
| 21:54.24 | ployne | taintedswip? |
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| 22:01.00 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 22:01.33 | Taintedwisp | yeah you can use picked units actor i think |
| 22:01.48 | Taintedwisp | not a triggerer I just know a few things |
| 22:02.50 | Ahli | ployne: morph end is just an identifier, just add it... your editor keeps a list of your used identifiers... |
| 22:03.03 | Ahli | it just needs to match whatever is used when creating the animation bracket |
| 22:04.47 | ployne | the thing seems to work, except in one case: |
| 22:05.22 | ployne | if the ability was being casted and it gets interrupted, the morph animation reverts, but the players needs to press "Cancel" to be able to actually play (because when it's casting/channeling, the player can't move) |
| 22:05.48 | ployne | and I didn't have to add the identifier. Would theidentifier fix this? |
| 22:07.44 | ployne | I'll try "Activate cooldowns" and see what happens |
| 22:16.23 | ployne | nope |
| 22:16.31 | ployne | D: |
| 22:21.21 | ployne | Grrr! |
| 22:21.28 | ployne | this thing will never work. :C |
| 22:22.56 | Zolden | noobs shouldn't give up |
| 22:23.05 | ployne | :< |
| 22:23.17 | Zolden | jesus didn't give up when he had been learning magic |
| 22:23.25 | ployne | is it possible to specific that an ability is interruptible at any stage by another ability? |
| 22:24.03 | Zolden | examples |
| 22:24.18 | Zolden | i need an example to understand what you want to accomplish |
| 22:24.30 | ployne | what is the "Bail" state? |
| 22:24.43 | ployne | basically, this is a soccer game |
| 22:24.57 | ployne | a Thor unit has the ability to Morph, signaling it is ready to receive a pass |
| 22:25.24 | ployne | when he gains ball possession, he shoots the ball in his facing direction, and unmorphs |
| 22:25.36 | ployne | if he already have ball possession, he will morph, shoot, and unmorph |
| 22:25.47 | Zolden | why morph? |
| 22:25.56 | ployne | however, there is a Tackle ability that allows units to steal the ball from the morphing thor |
| 22:25.56 | Zolden | can he do this without morphing? |
| 22:26.14 | ployne | Consider not. :) |
| 22:26.28 | Zolden | too complicated for me, sry |
| 22:26.42 | ployne | so if the Thor is morphing while having ball possession and someone Tackles him, he loses ball possession and -SHOULD- unmorph |
| 22:26.54 | ployne | his morph ability, since he can cast it without ahving the ball, is a cancelable ability |
| 22:27.16 | ployne | the problem is, when it gets tackled while having ball possession and morphing, he loses ball, but does not unmorph and cancel his ability |
| 22:27.53 | ployne | (I actually succeeded at making it unmorph, but it's useless because he is still actually casting his ability so pressing the Cancel button will play the animation of the Unmorph) |
| 22:31.26 | ployne | Is there any Trigger Action that would let me force the casting of the custom Cancel ability? |
| 22:31.46 | ployne | I tried using "Activate Ability Cooldowns", but it doesn't work |
| 22:32.49 | ployne | or is there an Actor Event Action (Term) that forces the casting of an ability? |
| 22:33.25 | ployne | btw, forget the "(Term)", Term is a condition |
| 22:33.41 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain035_zps6cfcbea7.jpg |
| 22:33.51 | Taintedwisp | Zolden I got it to work through some Shady Actor events :P |
| 22:34.01 | Taintedwisp | Luckily when you stack them they dont look any differerent :P |
| 22:34.11 | Taintedwisp | Different* |
| 22:34.31 | Taintedwisp | http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/Terrain034_zpsebd314a1.jpg.html |
| 22:34.35 | Taintedwisp | Same pic in purple :P |
| 22:35.05 | ployne | tainted, would you know the answer to my questions? :) |
| 22:35.50 | Taintedwisp | No clue ployne |
| 22:36.19 | ployne | Aww. :( |
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| 22:56.30 | Kubi | Hey |
| 22:56.31 | Kubi | Zolden |
| 22:56.35 | Kubi | Give me your updated hero glow |
| 22:56.35 | Kubi | pls |
| 22:56.43 | Kubi | gooby |
| 23:00.22 | Zolden | ok, sec |
| 23:00.36 | Zolden | guys, why a building can't be selected anymore after owner cahnge? |
| 23:00.39 | Zolden | wtf? |
| 23:00.58 | Zolden | Kubi: http://www.sc2mapster.com/media/attachments/36/214/hero_grow_splat.rar |
| 23:01.05 | Kubi | Select Enemy Buildings |
| 23:01.07 | Kubi | in settings |
| 23:01.12 | Kubi | Danke |
| 23:01.26 | Zolden | i can select enemy building |
| 23:01.29 | Zolden | it's not the case |
| 23:01.30 | Kubi | Make sure to overriden the setting with a trigger |
| 23:01.34 | Kubi | so noobs arnt all like |
| 23:01.38 | Kubi | "WTF I CANT SELECT THINGS" |
| 23:02.01 | Zolden | when units become MY, they can't be clicked anymore, like it's a fucking doodad |
| 23:02.18 | Zolden | i ovverride that shit |
| 23:02.29 | Zolden | this problem appeared after 1.5 patch |
| 23:06.53 | Taintedwisp | adding action actors to 30 units :P |
| 23:09.47 | Zolden | Ahli: look, there is a strange thing (i'ts the bug hapened after patch 1.5): if i have a castle from start, i can select it by click, if it's enemy castle, i can select it too, but after i capture it, it become unselectable by click... any ideas why? |
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| 23:11.53 | Ahli | is that the unit actor or do you create the selection stuff via another model? |
| 23:11.59 | evily | does anyone know how can allow people to zoom out more? |
| 23:12.03 | Ahli | that only happens with the latter for me |
| 23:13.34 | Zolden | Ahli: It's unit actor |
| 23:16.31 | Ahli | zolden, get my unit selection fix actor thingy from my list, then create that for your castle. |
| 23:17.02 | Ahli | change the model to your castle one and the other stuff accordingly, too, so it uses the same area |
| 23:17.13 | Ahli | or you try to apply my fix to the unit actor |
| 23:17.23 | Ahli | (so it recreates itself after unit owner changes) |
| 23:17.30 | Zolden | omfg, i'm so lucky |
| 23:17.33 | Zolden | I just fixed it |
| 23:17.38 | Ahli | what did you do? |
| 23:18.23 | Zolden | actor -> model flags -> allow hit test |
| 23:18.30 | Zolden | dunno why it was off |
| 23:18.47 | Zolden | and why it worked before capture |
| 23:18.51 | Zolden | strange |
| 23:19.43 | Zolden | but ty for advice, u always help, even if i fix it myself ^) |
| 23:20.00 | evily | night night |
| 23:20.13 | Ahli | o_0 |
| 23:20.35 | Zolden | yea |
| 23:25.17 | Taintedwisp | yo vail you there? |
| 23:25.25 | Taintedwisp | What all has to be done to that new ability you created? |
| 23:25.47 | Vail | i cant recall off hand ive been fighting the editor over our outro |
| 23:26.07 | Ahli | Vindicator: are you here? |
| 23:26.26 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 23:26.27 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:27.18 | Taintedwisp | A simple Fade out wouldnt work? |
| 23:35.26 | Kubi | Zolden |
| 23:35.29 | Kubi | How you attach hero glow? |
| 23:35.32 | Kubi | splat actor? |
| 23:36.02 | JademusSreg | Backish. |
| 23:39.59 | Zolden | Kubi: ask Tainted |
| 23:40.02 | Zolden | he attaches |
| 23:40.21 | Kubi | I get big colored squares |
| 23:40.33 | Zolden | put texture to Assets/Textures |
| 23:41.08 | Kubi | did |
| 23:41.16 | Zolden | anyone wants to go play Heroes of Might and Magic on NA in 10 minutes> |
| 23:41.41 | Zolden | Kubi: then in game theyll be fine, if you want them to be fine in editor, restart it |
| 23:42.13 | Kubi | got it |
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| 23:44.11 | Kubi | its so bright |
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| 23:51.02 | Zolden | Kubi: u can set its tint color with white and lower hdr |
| 23:51.21 | Zolden | Triceron: saw my todays "ribbon as skirt" test? |
| 23:51.26 | nooblark|work | Dustin what happened with humble bundle? anything good from it? |
| 23:55.13 | Triceron | yah, the ribbons were pretty awesome |
| 23:55.20 | Triceron | I think I might try that for capes myself |
| 23:56.39 | Zolden | should work good as a cape |
| 23:57.14 | Zolden | just make a cylinder, and use alpha to hide half |
| 23:58.23 | Taintedwisp | Zolden dont know, he only knows hero projections :P |
| 23:58.42 | Kubi | Zolden was right |
| 23:58.47 | Kubi | I KNOW HOW TO MAKE SC2 POPULAR |
| 23:58.55 | Kubi | YOU MAKE THE BLACK PEOPLE LIKE IT, AND PLAY IT |
| 23:58.57 | Triceron | you make it free 2 play |
| 23:59.02 | Kubi | THEN THE WHITE MEN WILL FOLLOW |
| 23:59.03 | Triceron | same diff |
| 23:59.07 | Kubi | THEN YOU GET THE BLACK PEOPLE TO STOP PLAYING IT |
