IRC log for #sc2mapster on 20130222

`00:00.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Take Command is the single greatest feature introduced to the RTS metagame in the past three centuries (approximately).`
`00:01.35`	`*** join/#sc2mapster Shawn\|Rawr (~chatzilla@ip70-170-21-119.lv.lv.cox.net)`
`00:03.28`	`A1win`	`damn... is it possible to enable/disable abilities on a unit for a specific player, so that if multiple players have control of the unit, they have different abilities available?`
`00:03.50`	`JademusSreg`	`I doubt it.`
`00:04.05`	`A1win`	`I guess I'll just have to create separate overview units for every player`
`00:04.32`	`A1win`	`so that I can use the overview unit's abilities for repairing the ship and stuff like that :X`
`00:04.41`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`00:05.24`	`Ahli`	`you could fake it like I am faking my shop in ts2`
`00:05.28`	`A1win`	`the most logical place for the hull repair ability to be in`
`00:05.44`	`A1win`	`the overview unit is not a visible unit`
`00:05.50`	`A1win`	`it's already faked ;D`
`00:06.03`	`JademusSreg`	`A1, I've used that approach as well. =D`
`00:06.21`	`Ahli`	`then use fake unit per player to use different stuff per player`
`00:06.28`	`A1win`	`yeah I will`
`00:06.57`	`A1win`	`was jut thinking if there would be a more elegant solution, but it doesn't really matter since it's only 5 units per player`
`00:06.58`	`Ahli`	`my shop uses invisible shops per player and 1 visible shop for animation, but that one is not selectable`
`00:07.16`	`A1win`	`I did that 2 years ago or so ;D`
`00:07.20`	`A1win`	`using cloak`
`00:07.38`	`Ahli`	`I hide actors with the technic from gax3 mod`
`00:07.39`	`*** join/#sc2mapster MasterReY (~Goa@77-21-111-12-dynip.superkabel.de)`
`00:07.46`	`MasterReY`	`hi guys`
`00:07.50`	`A1win`	`hey`
`00:08.02`	`MasterReY`	`is there any way to check if a unit is in the range of another unit`
`00:08.03`	`A1win`	`yeah I know the per player actor message stuff, using it in CraftCraft as well`
`00:08.12`	`A1win`	`triggers or data?`
`00:08.27`	`A1win`	`well, yes either way`
`00:08.28`	`MasterReY`	`the "unit enters range of unit" event doesnt work for unit variables`
`00:08.33`	`JademusSreg`	`native fixed DistanceBetweenPoints (point p1, point p2);`
`00:08.39`	`A1win`	`ah, event`
`00:08.47`	`MasterReY`	`ya as event`
`00:08.48`	`MasterReY`	`sry`
`00:08.53`	`MasterReY`	`for example`
`00:08.57`	`MasterReY`	`i have 5 points on my map`
`00:09.03`	`MasterReY`	`they have radius 2`
`00:09.04`	`A1win`	`might be better to do it as an autocast dummy ability and catch the "unit uses ability" as event`
`00:09.31`	`MasterReY`	`and whenever a "hero" unit steps on one of those points i want the trigger to fire`
`00:09.44`	`MasterReY`	`hm okay`
`00:09.58`	`A1win`	`not sure how reliable autocast is though`
`00:10.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, native bool PointsInRange (point p1, point p2, fixed range);`
`00:10.09`	`A1win`	`I had some problems with long range autocasts`
`00:10.30`	`MasterReY`	`jade, the problem is the points on the map are not fixed`
`00:10.35`	`MasterReY`	`they are placed during the game`
`00:10.38`	`MasterReY`	`and saved in variables`
`00:10.43`	`nooblark`	`roar`
`00:10.55`	`MasterReY`	`and the event doesnt work with variables`
`00:10.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah. That's why functions have parameters.`
`00:11.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, what are you attempting to accomplish? =D`
`00:11.40`	`MasterReY`	`well`
`00:11.47`	`MasterReY`	`there are 8 players`
`00:12.14`	`MasterReY`	`when one player dies, the position is saved and a beacon is placed where it died`
`00:12.26`	`MasterReY`	`other players can now step onto that beacon to revive the player`
`00:12.52`	`MasterReY`	`and i cant get a working event for "player steps on that beacon"`
`00:13.36`	`JademusSreg`	`*revive the unit`
`00:13.42`	`MasterReY`	`yeah`
`00:13.51`	`MasterReY`	`the unit which died there earlier`
`00:13.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, this could be done entirely via data.`
`00:14.01`	`MasterReY`	`uh`
`00:14.08`	`MasterReY`	`im not so experienced with data`
`00:14.19`	`MasterReY`	`but i would be happy to learn if its not too much`
`00:14.32`	`MasterReY`	`right now im using a periodic event`
`00:14.40`	`MasterReY`	`and a simple condition inside`
`00:14.42`	`MasterReY`	`T_T`
`00:16.40`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm not available enough to do the walkthrough, but the handwavy explanation is to use the approach employed by HeroDeathPrevention behavior, but require the Incapacitated behavior check for an allied unit nearby before it expires.`
`00:17.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Alternately, the suggestion of using an autocast dummy ability is sufficient if you prefer triggers.`
`00:17.50`	`MasterReY`	`okay, thanks, ill see what i can find :D`
`00:21.54`	`A1win`	`how do I add data references into button tooltips D:`
`00:22.10`	`A1win`	`oh nvm it has a tool for it`
`00:22.19`	`JademusSreg`	`(HAha)`
`00:22.49`	`Ahli`	`http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7923873930?page=1#5 race problems identified :)`
`00:22.58`	`Ahli`	`(by Blizz)`
`00:23.26`	`A1win`	`hmm if a player has control of a neutral unit, does its abilities use resources from the player or the neutral player?`
`00:24.04`	`Ahli`	`shared flag in the unit might be important, but it should spend player's one... maybe hardcoded to p0`
`00:24.18`	`A1win`	`also should an ability that repairs hull be called Hull Repair or Repair Hull`
`00:24.21`	`Ahli`	`wiat, it is hardcoded to p0 (at least before)`
`00:24.36`	`Ahli`	`my bases are "neutral"`
`00:25.03`	`Ahli`	`and I couldn't buy stuff with my own money`
`00:25.09`	`A1win`	`mmf`
`00:25.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Call it "Repair the Hull with Hull Repair"`
`00:25.33`	`A1win`	`;I`
`00:26.28`	`Otixa_`	`FUCKING GAME OF THRONES`
`00:26.31`	`Ahli`	`call it space duct tape`
`00:26.35`	`Otixa_`	`https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25KABvPbq-U`
`00:27.04`	`JademusSreg`	`For space ducts.`
`00:27.17`	`Ahli`	`saw beginning intro, tried to skip it in the video :X`
`00:27.50`	`Otixa_`	`;p`
`00:28.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Wat video?`
`00:28.35`	`Ahli`	`otixa's link`
`00:29.07`	`JademusSreg`	`What's in the video? Moving pictures?`
`00:29.35`	`Ahli`	`take 105 seconds of your life and watch it`
`00:30.06`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll take 105 seconds of someone else's life.`
`00:30.48`	`Ahli`	`technology for that has not yet been discovered`
`00:31.59`	`Vail`	`yet`
`00:32.11`	`Ahli`	`lol, streets use the lighting settings from point 0,0`
`00:32.13`	`A1win`	`Ahli, it does spend my resources, but I'm using Interact ability to gain control, so I guess that makes sense`
`00:32.23`	`Ahli`	`if you make it black, you got black roads`
`00:32.31`	`A1win`	`but yay it works`
`00:32.44`	`Ahli`	`ok... maybe they changed something`
`00:32.50`	`Ahli`	`or do you use player 0?`
`00:32.59`	`A1win`	`player 0 for what?`
`00:33.06`	`Ahli`	`for the building you take control of`
`00:33.08`	`A1win`	`yeah the unit is player 0`
`00:33.13`	`Ahli`	`that works, yes`
`00:33.18`	`A1win`	`ah, alright`
`00:33.20`	`A1win`	`well, works for me`
`00:33.26`	`Ahli`	`but the requirements it reads belong to the owning player (0)`
`00:33.55`	`A1win`	`oh, hmm`
`00:33.56`	`Ahli`	`which was a problem for goal to have different buttons for each hero in the shop, so I had to fake shops`
`00:34.05`	`Ahli`	`*my`
`00:34.07`	`A1win`	`behaviors can work as requirements right?`
`00:34.27`	`Ahli`	`yes`
`00:34.39`	`Ahli`	`that works :D`
`00:34.46`	`A1win`	`I need it to be player 0 and use Interact because I don't want players to set the unit into a control group... and that's the only reason for Interact <.<`
`00:34.49`	`Ahli`	`or hmm`
`00:34.56`	`pinpin`	`which type of validator is used to determine the Distance Between Caster And Target ??`
`00:34.58`	`Ahli`	`unless multiple players use the thing at the same time`
`00:35.00`	`Ahli`	`then it wont`
`00:35.02`	`A1win`	`they can't`
`00:35.07`	`A1win`	`each player has their own unit`
`00:35.08`	`Ahli`	`k, in my case they could`
`00:35.10`	`A1win`	`that's owned by player 0 ;D`
`00:35.53`	`pinpin`	`--> which type of validator is used to determine the Distance Between Caster And Target ??`
`00:36.25`	`Vail`	`we have a wiki on sc2mapster...`
`00:36.26`	`A1win`	`so I basically have 5 ships, each ship has [number of players] Overview units owned by player 0 and one dummy unit owned by each player (6 players max), whose only purpose is to gain control of the Overview units by Interact ability <.<`
`00:36.35`	`pinpin`	`the validator one is far from complete...`
`00:36.43`	`pinpin`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/validators/`
`00:37.05`	`A1win`	`and the Overview units are selected by a dialog button (or its hotkey) by each player, so I have full control which overview unit is selected`
`00:37.36`	`Vail`	`location range i believe`
`00:37.57`	`A1win`	`the overview unit represents the ship, and when selected, the player's camera is moved onto that ship's area of the map, and camera bounds and minimap set to only display that area`
`00:37.59`	`pinpin`	`thanks`
`00:38.35`	`pinpin`	`the other guy working on this map used "Unit Compare Order Target Range", any ideas what this validator is actually for?`
`00:38.44`	`A1win`	`I have the map split into 5 areas, one for each of 5 ships (3 science vessels, an infested battlecruiser, and zerg leviathan)`
`00:39.36`	`A1win`	`so I can make nicely detailed terrain for each ship :>`
`00:41.07`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail hows it coming?`
`00:41.30`	`Vail`	`just back from dinner, did you take a look at that ability?`
`00:42.05`	`Vail`	`the unit is not animated properly for it yet but i will fix that when i can`
`00:42.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`nope`
`00:42.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`00:42.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`wheres it at`
`00:42.57`	`Vail`	`it the activate button on his command card`
`00:43.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`I dont think you uploaded the map :P`
`00:43.34`	`Vail`	`its evo frenzy2 in extra maps`
`00:43.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`not showing on mine`
`00:44.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`There we go`
`00:44.18`	`Vail`	`sorry wrong folder it appears`
`00:44.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`00:44.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`lemme guess it was in a .temp folder?`
`00:44.58`	`Vail`	`na i have an evofrenzy 2.0 fold and an evofrenzy 2.0 1 folder`
`00:45.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`ahhh`
`00:45.12`	`Vail`	`it was in the 2.0 and not 2.0 1`
`00:46.01`	`nooblark`	`0-3`
`00:46.02`	`nooblark`	`gay`
`00:46.03`	`Vail`	`its still a work in progress .`
`00:47.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail I like it BUT, can you make it so only 1 volcano appears? its REALLY laggy as is`
`00:48.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`you could make it 1 volcano and then make it an effect target`
`00:48.21`	`Vail`	`i suppose i could.`
`00:48.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`I really like it though it looks really cool`
`00:48.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`its just laggy`
`00:48.41`	`Vail`	`yeah the number and spread needs tweaking`
`00:48.51`	`Vail`	`as is i mean`
`00:49.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah As is its cool`
`00:50.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`so RIGHT NOW, it damages units around the hero pretty much right?`
`00:50.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`what might be good is if you do keep it with multiple is to give it static offsets so they dont stack`
`00:51.05`	`Vail`	`it throws a buff on them that damages them periodicly for awhile`
`00:51.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`nice`
`00:51.26`	`Vail`	`yeah they are not spreading how i would like`
`00:51.33`	`Vail`	`im working on that and the number`
`00:53.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`ah`
`00:53.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah though, Just keep 2 things in mind while designing, 1. Lag, if it coses a lot of lag its not worth it , and 2. Useability, will this ability be useful.`
`00:54.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`causes*`
`00:54.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`not coses`
`00:55.50`	`Vail`	`i see`
`00:57.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`Yeah, lag and useability, for all I care tbh, you could have him throwing turds at people that dead damage as long as its lagfree and useful :P`
`00:57.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`actually that would be pretty funny`
`00:57.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`00:57.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`and I just got a HORRIBLE idea for a hero..`
`00:58.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`A turd man... he throws poo at people. and he has several shit related abilities`
`00:58.07`	`A1win`	`mr. hanky?`
`00:58.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`pretty much`
`00:58.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`Wheres zolden at, he needs to model this`
`00:58.29`	`Zolden`	`what`
`00:58.43`	`Zolden`	`mr. hanky?`
`00:58.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`ZOlden if you model a pooman and a few Poo effects, I will make a Mod with a poo hero`
`00:58.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`00:58.46`	`Zolden`	`i'd love to`
`00:59.03`	`Zolden`	`and it's easy`
`00:59.07`	`Taintedwisp`	`I wont use it in evofrenzy, but it will exist`
`00:59.08`	`Zolden`	`BUT`
`00:59.22`	`Zolden`	`someone should make poo texture`
`00:59.26`	`Zolden`	`i won't do it`
`00:59.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`Actually that could be the final hero`
`00:59.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`I would have to talk to blizz about that`
`00:59.31`	`Zolden`	`lol`
`00:59.36`	`Zolden`	`don't`
`00:59.41`	`Zolden`	`they are too conservative`
`00:59.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey Blizz-Artestru, I have a serious question,`
`01:00.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`If a Dookie hero was made, would blizzard ban my map for it?`
`01:00.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`kinda as a joke :P`
`01:00.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`I would make it just to have it as a cheat to actor swap a hero`
`01:00.45`	`pinpin`	`how do I make it so that my Target Effect Ability casts as soon as a target is selected?`
`01:00.54`	`JademusSreg`	`The Duke.`
`01:00.55`	`pinpin`	`at the moment, my unit only casts the ability once it reaches the target...`
`01:01.00`	`A1win`	`...just don't :P it'd only be funny to a minority and it would offend some`
`01:01.05`	`Blizz-Artestru`	`That's not my department. :)`
`01:01.11`	`nooblark`	`Jade, is send generic trigger event, useful?`
`01:01.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thats why it would be a joke cheat a1win :P`
`01:01.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Fuck yes it is.`
`01:01.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`darn :P`
`01:01.27`	`pinpin`	`help? :(`
`01:01.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`I would make it a joke cheat for me to give to a few people by word of mouth only`
`01:01.46`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`01:01.48`	`pinpin`	`I've been trying to fix that for like 2 hours now.....`
`01:01.51`	`JademusSreg`	`And I take all the credit. The credit was just there for the taking, and I took it.`
`01:01.57`	`A1win`	`pinpin, give it infinite range`
`01:02.06`	`nooblark`	`was that fuck yes it is, to me? :o`
`01:02.08`	`A1win`	`(500 is practically infinite)`
`01:02.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, noobl.`
`01:02.16`	`nooblark`	`okay`
`01:02.17`	`pinpin`	`wow...`
`01:02.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`255 is the size of almost any map..`
`01:02.21`	`nooblark`	`thught so :P`
`01:02.27`	`pinpin`	`why wouldn't it consider it to be infinite if I entered n ovalue to range`
`01:02.29`	`pinpin`	`Grrr"`
`01:02.37`	`A1win`	`Taintedwisp, it's longer than 256 from corner to corner though`
`01:02.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`Ahh true...`
`01:02.53`	`nooblark`	`is that basically want programmers would use to call a function?`
`01:03.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw.`
`01:03.01`	`A1win`	`pinpin, because it considers it to be 0`
`01:03.09`	`A1win`	`just a matter of definition`
`01:03.12`	`nooblark`	`just discovered it by accident looking through the library`
`01:03.17`	`pinpin`	`so much time wasted T_T`
`01:03.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thats like what? 363 is the max map size`
`01:03.27`	`JademusSreg`	`The signal is used to fire other triggers registered to the signal event.`
`01:03.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`So 363 WILL REACH ANYWHERE on your map`
`01:04.00`	`JademusSreg`	`So instead of making triggers manually run other triggers, now you just send the signal, and all the triggers listening for the signal run.`
`01:04.03`	`nooblark`	`oh, so instead of "run trigger" (which would only do 1), you can have 10 triggers.. yeah`
`01:04.09`	`nooblark`	`you said it before i could finish typing`
`01:04.10`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`01:04.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`256^2)(2)= size^2`
`01:05.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`I hope HoTS gives new challenges -_-`
`01:05.03`	`JademusSreg`	`More importantly, it was one of the suggestions I made, so I'm on a self-agrandizing rampage.`
`01:05.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`I made the suggestion of the poo hero... did you?`
`01:05.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`Zolden just make it cartoony just use the color broken`
`01:05.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`brown`
`01:05.45`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, Taint. I think that's in HotS. Good move.`
`01:06.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`01:06.12`	`nooblark`	`wait, you got that trigger added?`
`01:06.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`I dont want a real looking turd walking around... I want something funny and cartoonish`
`01:06.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`Make it similar to mr hanky`
`01:06.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. Hell yes. Hell fucking yes.`
`01:06.27`	`nooblark`	`dude`
`01:06.30`	`nooblark`	`if i were gay`
`01:06.37`	`nooblark`	`you are so awesome`
`01:06.42`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`01:06.43`	`JademusSreg`	`I agree.`
`01:06.44`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`01:06.49`	`nooblark`	`in all seriousness`
`01:07.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`instead of a christmas hat, give it sunglasses or something and a ballcap or something so theres no copyright`
`01:07.18`	`nooblark`	`defintely one of the smartest persons i've met.. since basically college professors`
`01:07.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`It will need a walk and attack animation though`
`01:07.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`A punch attack animation`
`01:07.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`01:07.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`and a bounce walk animation`
`01:07.40`	`Vail`	`dayum`
`01:07.54`	`Vail`	`this ability is op`
`01:07.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`01:08.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail if you want you could make it his ultimate, but he would still need a damage ability that wasnt an ultimate to go with it`
`01:08.49`	`Zolden`	`Taintedwisp: ok`
`01:08.54`	`Vail`	`i have it a bigger spread... you can walk up a fortess pop this off and walk out and seconds later Dead fortress...`
`01:08.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`i'm not kidding zolden :P`
`01:09.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`Ill put it as a joke cheat`
`01:09.05`	`Zolden`	`i'm not either`
`01:09.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`why not`
`01:09.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`just dont make it too disgusting try to keep it cartoony and funny`
`01:09.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`just something for a good chucky`
`01:09.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`chuckle*`
`01:09.42`	`Zolden`	`poo model is something should had been made for a long time ago`
`01:09.49`	`Zolden`	`it's a shame no one created it`
`01:10.22`	`Zolden`	`we'll see how cartoony or realistic it will be`
`01:10.23`	`JademusSreg`	`Zol, not so fast. Consider for a moment all the various forms of poo.`
`01:10.26`	`*** join/#sc2mapster egod (b8919ca8@gateway/web/freenode/ip.184.145.156.168)`
`01:10.50`	`egod`	`how come i cant no more select any target with the new patch ?!`
`01:10.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`hah okay`
`01:11.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`Egod`
`01:11.03`	`JademusSreg`	`F10, Options, Gameplay`
`01:11.07`	`JademusSreg`	`New Options`
`01:11.21`	`egod`	`eh?`
`01:11.22`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: I think it's stand animation will be like this http://27.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_ldiojr88671qfarm1o1_500.jpg`
`01:11.24`	`Ahli`	`bah, I failed hard with moving gameUI frame :D`
`01:11.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Zol, that's adorable.`
`01:12.01`	`Ahli`	`egod, http://www.staredit.net/topic/15810/unread/#special`
`01:12.31`	`egod`	`oh yteah, thx for the dialog Text problem you solved ahli, i was looking for this`
`01:12.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Egod`
`01:12.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`Much more important`
`01:12.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/general-chat/49060-2-0-4-fix-your-map-with-override-player-option/`
`01:13.14`	`Ahli`	`I think everything that is important is in my thread, too ;D`
`01:13.17`	`nooblark`	`btw jade, where did you get my loadscreen from?`
`01:13.32`	`JademusSreg`	`I scribbled it in 5 minutes.`
`01:13.33`	`nooblark`	`please tell me you had that sitting around from something else.. lol`
`01:13.35`	`egod`	`ohhh so i can force auto-unit selection vie triggers?`
`01:13.46`	`nooblark`	`you really made that for me? :o`
`01:13.56`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`01:14.03`	`nooblark`	`i don't want to offend you.. i am however, not going to use it ( I LOVEED IT THOUGH)`
`01:14.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`yup`
`01:14.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, I was lampooning your desire for a masterpiece loadingscreen. =D`
`01:14.40`	`nooblark`	`good :P`
`01:14.57`	`Ahli`	`yes you can force a few options there.`
`01:15.07`	`Ahli`	`world tooltips might be important, too`
`01:15.14`	`nooblark`	`so i'm loooking through libraries to understand how triggers are made from the nothing`
`01:15.31`	`nooblark`	`so i'm going through ones i am familiar with, like create unit with default facing`
`01:15.54`	`Ahli`	`new map -> create a basic trigger, save, view script`
`01:16.03`	`JademusSreg`	`We grind up code faeries, and sprinkle it on xml library files.`
`01:16.04`	`Ahli`	`(or compile instead of saving)`
`01:16.07`	`Taintedwisp`	`Link the loadingscreen?`
`01:16.29`	`JademusSreg`	`I thought you saw it Taint.`
`01:16.33`	`nooblark`	`the very last line is: Create (Count) (Type) for player (Player) at (Point) facing (Angle) degrees (Flags)`
`01:16.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Remember? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/noobls%20lodeingscrin.jpg`
`01:17.00`	`nooblark`	`which is the same thing as create units with default facing, the only other part of the code asks for the parameters.. lol`
`01:17.14`	`nooblark`	`yah, i remember`
`01:17.24`	`egod`	`anyone have try Starcraft UNiverse ?`
`01:17.28`	`egod`	`good stuff eh`
`01:18.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`hahah`
`01:18.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`Nah i didnt see that jademusw`
`01:18.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`hahah`
`01:18.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`its awesome`
`01:18.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`01:18.51`	`Zolden`	`lol`
`01:18.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`you actually took some time to draw that too :P`
`01:19.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`notice the detail`
`01:19.21`	`JademusSreg`	`I think my next trolling screen needs to be fucking quality. It needs to look masterfully shitty.`
`01:19.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`01:21.26`	`Otixa_`	`JademusSreg, your nose is a noodle`
`01:21.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, I am related to the muppet Gonzo.`
`01:22.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`He is related to your mother Otixa_... he is your father.`
`01:22.32`	`Otixa_`	`Silence, worm`
`01:22.43`	`Otixa_`	`Didn't I tell you to never talk in this channel again? >;[`
`01:23.10`	`pinpin`	`hmmmm`
`01:25.15`	`pinpin`	`My ability uses a Set Effect for an Issue Order and an Apply Buff. I want the unit to have its speed Buff as it charges to Attack the target, but I also want the buff to be canceled if any other order is issued. However, when I check "Channeled" in the Behavior's Buff Flags, the ability casts and then is disabled right away because it seems to consider the Attack Order to be an Order that cancels that appliance of the Behavior. An`
`01:25.16`	`nooblark`	`why is every trigger a bool?`
`01:25.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`eat a dick otixa :P`
`01:25.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`Kindly`
`01:26.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`WHORES`
`01:26.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`A BUNCH OF WHORES`
`01:27.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`Just 40 whores, who get no scores`
`01:28.42`	`JademusSreg`	`pin, sounds rather like Charge. Augment class ability.`
`01:28.55`	`Ahli`	`http://www.staredit.net/345535/ I can't see add charge in the modify unit effect :X am I blind?`
`01:29.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, I had that feeling before 2.0.4. Haven't checked since then.`
`01:29.52`	`pinpin`	`JademusSreg, I was using an Augment ability, but it seem to ahve been fucked up by the new patch: it'd work fine when you'd target a unit, but not a structure...`
`01:30.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Sounds like a filter issue.`
`01:30.16`	`JademusSreg`	`On the augment's effect.`
`01:30.22`	`Ahli`	`"I also want to point out another bug. Adding a charge to an ability via a Modify Unit effect no longer works. A charge is no longer created."`
`01:30.27`	`Ahli`	`I mean that post`
`01:30.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`01:30.40`	`Ahli`	`the other problem works fine for the zealot`
`01:33.11`	`pinpin`	`there are no Filters in the Apply Behavior effect that is linked to the Augment ability :/`
`01:34.14`	`JademusSreg`	`I was handwaving. I'll launch the editor and actually look now.`
`01:34.17`	`pinpin`	`god, Data Editor so fucking complicated ALL THE GODAMN TIME`
`01:34.46`	`JademusSreg`	`And yes, but it's also glorious and awesome.`
`01:35.51`	`JademusSreg`	`pin, was your augment set to autocast?`
`01:36.12`	`pinpin`	`no`
`01:36.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Didn't think so. =D`
`01:36.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Lead me through the sequence you used for the augment.`
`01:36.56`	`Vail`	`Taintedwisp: is there a reason heros can not damage units faster than they heal?`
`01:37.30`	`pinpin`	`what do you mean by "sequence" ?`
`01:38.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Like Augment ability > Set effect > (Buff behavior, Issue order effect)`
`01:39.26`	`pinpin`	`ah`
`01:39.28`	`pinpin`	`one sec`
`01:39.54`	`pinpin`	`Augment ability > Apply Behavior effect > Buff behavior`
`01:40.03`	`A1win`	`mmh what effect should I use for a dummy Effect - Instant ability to be able to validate the caster unit... tried using a Set effect but it gives me "Error" when I try to cast the ability with the Caster Life Not Full validator on it`
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`01:40.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`? what you mean Vail?`
`01:40.23`	`JademusSreg`	`And you said it broke if the unit was attacking a structure?`
`01:40.41`	`pinpin`	`(and seeing it didn't work, I also tried: Effect - Target ability > Set effect (Issue Order + Apply Behavior > Buff behavior)`
`01:40.59`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail there should be a wait time on the units to heal -_-`
`01:41.08`	`pinpin`	`yep, targeting a Structure made the Zealot waste energy, but not run to it (no buff applied)`
`01:41.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Interesting. Could be because it has a footprint.`
`01:42.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Try removing the structure footprint to confirm the diagnosis. =D`
`01:42.21`	`pinpin`	`the structure you mean?`
`01:42.38`	`pinpin`	`what would be the consequences of removing the footprint? units can walk through it?`
`01:42.45`	`pinpin`	`I've never messed with footprints :/`
`01:42.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. This is merely a testy.`
`01:43.04`	`JademusSreg`	`Gotta hypothesis, gotta test.`
`01:43.23`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/v0r8n32562qpksq/hydra1.jpg?m`
`01:43.27`	`nooblark`	`jade, how do you like that one`
`01:43.50`	`JademusSreg`	`noobl, I think it is appropriate. And no one will sue you.`
`01:44.05`	`nooblark`	`lol, is that sarcastic? :O`
`01:44.22`	`A1win`	`ah, it works now...`
`01:44.27`	`nooblark`	`says at the bottom all rights reserved da da da da..`
`01:44.36`	`pinpin`	`oh structures all have a Range in my map, could that be it?`
`01:44.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Sarcasm on the internet wastes time because it necessitates explanantion.`
`01:44.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is to say, no.`
`01:44.56`	`nooblark`	`i like it alot`
`01:45.01`	`JademusSreg`	`pin, it might if the radius is smaller than the footprint.`
`01:45.13`	`nooblark`	`i was hoping more for a private one so others don't use it :P`
`01:45.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Then it can't get to a position to attack,.`
`01:46.00`	`pinpin`	`however, it is to be mentioned that this ability -used- to work before the patch, and since the patch, I haven't touched footprints at all`
`01:46.46`	`Fen1kz`	`hey guys, i've a question - is there any way to capture rightclick on unit where your hero is already moving to that unit?`
`01:46.54`	`JademusSreg`	`When one fixes a floor on which other people stand, people fall through the floor in the process.`
`01:47.18`	`JademusSreg`	`Fen, clarify?`
`01:47.49`	`Ahli`	`unit is issued order?`
`01:48.23`	`Fen1kz`	`let's say we have Unit1 and Unit2 - if you order Unit1 to move to Unit2 - and after that you rightclick Unit2 again - trigger wont capture Issue Order Event`
`01:48.39`	`Ahli`	`<PROTECTED>`
`01:48.52`	`Fen1kz`	`execute doesnt work too`
`01:48.59`	`Fen1kz`	`here's test map: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19647338/HHA/test1.SC2Map`
`01:50.08`	`Fen1kz`	`so if i pick marine1 and start rightclicking marine2 - only 1 event is passing`
`01:50.40`	`Ahli`	`is there a way to press "ok" in a text editing window in trigger editor without tabbing once and without using the mouse?`
`01:52.09`	`Fen1kz`	`Enter? =)`
`01:52.23`	`Ahli`	`enter creates a linebreak`
`01:52.33`	`Repo`	`New map: Defense of the Citadel II V0.963 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/defense-citadel-ii-v0-963/`
`01:52.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Unknown. Why is this an issue, Ahli?`
`01:53.06`	`Ahli`	`I just was annoyed that I click ok with the mouse...`
`01:53.24`	`Ahli`	`then I was briefly looking for an alternative, didn't find one except for tabbing once and then enter`
`01:53.33`	`Ahli`	`was hoping for ctrl + enter or something`
`01:53.47`	`Fen1kz`	`tab-enter`
`01:54.08`	`Ahli`	`that's what I said :D`
`01:54.12`	`A1win`	`whee my UI code is already a bowl of spaghetti o//`
`01:54.27`	`Fen1kz`	`jup, i've just tested and then wrote and then read what you said`
`01:54.31`	`Ahli`	`^^`
`01:54.32`	`A1win`	`I was beginning to get hungry anyway`
`01:54.54`	`Fen1kz`	`btw - so no idea how to catch rightclick command?`
`01:54.59`	`Ahli`	`oh, now I know why I dislike debug output for debug output`
`01:55.09`	`A1win`	`at least my ships can now lose health and be repaired xO`
`01:55.22`	`Ahli`	`in chat I can write things into it to mark it`
`01:55.26`	`A1win`	`still need to handle damage and death...`
`01:55.27`	`Vail`	`ah`
`01:57.16`	`Fen1kz`	`sweet, Unit - Any Unit uses Any Ability Command at Generic1 - Any stage (Include shared abilities) doesnt work too`
`01:57.28`	`A1win`	`Fen1kz, maybe if you make a dummy ability that itself issues the move order to the unit, so that when you order the unit by right-click, it casts the Dummy ability and not the actual Move`
`01:58.05`	`A1win`	`and the dummy ability can only be used by Smart clicking on a unit`
`01:58.11`	`Fen1kz`	`but actor catches it - at least i can see how small green circle flies for second`
`01:58.13`	`A1win`	`(doesn't need to be on command card)`
`01:58.13`	`Ahli`	`generic - any does not work :S but a1win that is good :D`
`01:58.28`	`A1win`	`actually`
`01:58.32`	`Fen1kz`	`i dont understand.. dummy ability that orders unit for move?`
`01:58.35`	`A1win`	`does Move has Re-executable flag...`
`01:58.57`	`Ahli`	`effect target with unlimited range that has the effect that it orders the unit to move to that point`
`01:59.03`	`A1win`	`doesn't seem to have flags at all`
`01:59.20`	`A1win`	`Ahli, only when targeting units`
`01:59.26`	`Ahli`	`so it executes that ability with every X click, also, make 360 degrees`
`01:59.41`	`Ahli`	`depends what you want ot detect at all :D`
`02:00.00`	`A1win`	`well, I'd imagine it only breaks when trying to re-execute the Move on a unit that it's already targeting`
`02:00.20`	`Fen1kz`	`jup`
`02:00.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Wat is jup?`
`02:00.46`	`Ahli`	`your workaround would always work because you order the unit with another ability as it uses... you could make it transient, too...`
`02:00.48`	`A1win`	`so an Effect - Target ability that has an Issue Order effect that orders Caster to move`
`02:00.49`	`Fen1kz`	`*yes`
`02:00.54`	`A1win`	`Smart flag set to true`
`02:00.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah.`
`02:02.07`	`Fen1kz`	`well, i'll try now`
`02:02.12`	`A1win`	`and yeah, Transient set to true as well`
`02:02.14`	`A1win`	`Arc 360`
`02:02.32`	`A1win`	`target type should only allow Unit`
`02:02.42`	`A1win`	`(not Point)`
`02:02.50`	`A1win`	`can't remember what the field is called`
`02:03.11`	`A1win`	`on the effect, that is`
`02:04.45`	`Ahli`	`http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/18zs1j/blizz_really_want_to_get_people_to_use_the_social/ lol`
`02:06.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`02:06.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Gross.`
`02:09.01`	`Fen1kz`	`and smart priority should be like 1`
`02:12.27`	`A1win`	`hmm, someone had problems with a custom smart click not overriding move when targeting friendly units :S so not sure if that will work`
`02:13.42`	`Ahli`	`try to move it in the ability list of the unit above move`
`02:14.29`	`Ahli`	`aka the old way of ordering smart cllicks`
`02:14.32`	`A1win`	`http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/j/SC2%202013-02-22%2004-13-45-66.jpg`
`02:14.34`	`A1win`	`http://a1win.pp.fi/ss/sc2/j/SC2%202013-02-22%2004-13-51-92.jpg`
`02:14.42`	`Ahli`	`*sorting`
`02:15.32`	`A1win`	`ship list health/warp drive displays are placeholders, I'll replace them with progress bars later`
`02:16.00`	`Fen1kz`	`hmm, nice, its not rightclick problem - you also cannot move by hotkey and leftclick`
`02:16.35`	`A1win`	`yeah, seems like Follow can't be re-executed on the target it's already following`
`02:17.01`	`Ahli`	`makes sense to lower bandwith usage`
`02:17.04`	`A1win`	`you could name your dummy ability "move" and replace the move button with that ;p`
`02:17.21`	`A1win`	`and make it appear as move :P`
`02:17.26`	`Fen1kz`	`i named it`
`02:17.28`	`Fen1kz`	`A1win`
`02:17.47`	`Fen1kz`	`and at least it works with button, now need to replace move command`
`02:17.48`	`A1win`	`I mean just use the Move button for it`
`02:17.55`	`Fen1kz`	`i made generic`
`02:18.14`	`A1win`	`make sure it also works with queue`
`02:20.24`	`A1win`	`sleep time`
`02:20.43`	`Fen1kz`	`well, if field called "Smart priority" - not a good idea put "1" here`
`02:21.20`	`Fen1kz`	`thanks A1win ♥ ur ability is awesome`
`02:27.08`	`nooblark`	`i need some votes`
`02:27.23`	`nooblark`	`the arrangement of these 3 words: hydralisk, zone, control`
`02:27.52`	`nooblark`	`i like Zone Control Hydralisk`
`02:28.16`	`JademusSreg`	`gestates.`
`02:28.25`	`nooblark`	`sounds good.. looks awesome, since the words go smallest to biggest, and the initals are ZCH, which is not the worst possible combo..`
`02:28.57`	`JademusSreg`	`Always aim for something easily abreviated and pronounced.`
`02:29.17`	`nooblark`	`Hydralisk Zone Control is my other choice, intials (HZC) sound best, looks akward placed, sounds easy enough though`
`02:29.23`	`JademusSreg`	`And I personally prefer to make jokes.`
`02:29.39`	`Fen1kz`	`Hydraliskzone Control`
`02:29.49`	`Fen1kz`	`like "friendzone"`
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`02:30.01`	`nooblark`	`lol..`
`02:30.08`	`Ahli`	`Hydra Ranchers was its name on scbw`
`02:30.14`	`nooblark`	`maybe Zone Control: Hydralisk`
`02:30.22`	`nooblark`	`naw ahli`
`02:30.31`	`nooblark`	`it was Hydra ZoneZ`
`02:30.33`	`nooblark`	`:P`
`02:30.42`	`JademusSreg`	`For instance, Veneria Defense, a defense game wherein the defenders of planet Veneria use the power of The Prophyllarium to defend against the Impregnators.`
`02:31.34`	`nooblark`	`i don't like the colon`
`02:32.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Or a moba entitled Pontifex Advent: Return Of Dominus Yale.`
`02:33.55`	`nooblark`	`i'm making a new map called Trollol Fest - Jademus Edition`
`02:33.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Hydralisk Hug-a-thon.`
`02:34.18`	`nooblark`	`i'm digging Zone Control Hydralisk`
`02:34.36`	`nooblark`	`can also make hydra, instead of hydralisk`
`02:35.04`	`nooblark`	`i love these colors i found.`
`02:35.04`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`02:35.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Infested With Worms: Veterinary Assault`
`02:36.08`	`pinpin`	`Anyone can help me with this weird bug?`
`02:36.09`	`pinpin`	`I have a Missile ability that somehow casts itself without launching the missile if, in the direction of the casted point, the max range of the ability is out of the map's boundaries`
`02:38.36`	`nooblark`	`so... i don't like the text at the bottom`
`02:38.45`	`nooblark`	`but i have no problem giving credit where it's due..`
`02:38.51`	`nooblark`	`am i allowed to alter it? :O`
`02:40.51`	`JademusSreg`	`No...`
`02:40.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Not "allowed".`
`02:41.24`	`Fen1kz`	`6:40am, omg, bb all and thanks for help`
`02:42.19`	`nooblark`	`jade, i am totally serious. i'll even contact the person who made it for permission.`
`02:42.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Alright. Who made the image?`
`02:42.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Read the small print.`
`02:42.45`	`nooblark`	`i dunno, it's posted at the bottom of it. lol`
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`03:08.45`	`nooblark`	`jade, you there? :)`
`03:08.56`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk7vmhgykf4yhjg/LoadScreen.jpg?m`
`03:09.23`	`nooblark`	`i'm not creative, and generally things i touch become ugly. let me know what you think`
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`03:11.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`so Vail you get that ability worked out?`
`03:11.17`	`nooblark`	`tain`
`03:11.19`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/hk7vmhgykf4yhjg/LoadScreen.jpg?m`
`03:11.22`	`nooblark`	`what do you think of that`
`03:11.27`	`Vail`	`still working on it`
`03:11.44`	`Vail`	`but i need a break or may be going to bed soon`
`03:11.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`not bad nooblark`
`03:11.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`ah okie`
`03:12.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`The hydra pic is a bit overused though.`
`03:12.49`	`JademusSreg`	`That's cute.`
`03:13.11`	`JademusSreg`	`And you almost certainly wouldn't be sued for it.`
`03:13.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`<PROTECTED>`
`03:14.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hey Vail, do me a favor`
`03:14.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`well... nvm`
`03:14.51`	`Vail\|Gone`	`what?`
`03:14.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`I was going to work some on the map tonight, but meh I think I would rather go to sleep haha`
`03:15.07`	`nooblark`	`tainted, you've seen this hydra pic in other stuff?`
`03:15.16`	`Vail\|Gone`	`same here`
`03:15.20`	`nooblark`	`like, this EXACT one`
`03:15.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah its one of the prebuilt arcade icons`
`03:15.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:15.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`if im not mistaken`
`03:15.41`	`nooblark`	`hydras are popular, i don't remember this one being in there though`
`03:15.48`	`nooblark`	`io think it may have been different`
`03:15.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`it might`
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`03:16.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`I still think you should do the pancake :P`
`03:17.09`	`A1win`	`baah can't get sleep D: slept too long last night (to 16:00)`
`03:17.17`	`A1win`	`5:17 now ;p`
`03:17.32`	`nooblark`	`my icon is going to be custom stuff too. i found some cartoonish things i want to use`
`03:17.38`	`A1win`	`speaking of map names, I also need a name for my map xO`
`03:17.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah the arcade icon is WAY different`
`03:17.58`	`nooblark`	`so how can i remove the text at the bottom of it?`
`03:18.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`2 ways`
`03:18.24`	`nooblark`	`i want to make it a little smaller, and change it to just say (C) NAMEHERE`
`03:18.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`1 cut it out and then stretch the surrounding`
`03:18.33`	`nooblark`	`and i might add blizzard logo.`
`03:18.57`	`nooblark`	`is there any way to erase it, so it fills it in with what the background would be?`
`03:19.08`	`Ahli`	`hots beta key? http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/18zy9f/and_thats_two_hope_they_last_long_enough_for_lotv/`
`03:19.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`gimme a sec nooblark`
`03:19.47`	`A1win`	`nooblark, Zone Control Hydralisk sounds like a singular creature`
`03:20.04`	`A1win`	`"a hydralisk that is controlling a zone"`
`03:20.25`	`A1win`	`Hydralisk Zone Control sounds like "zones being controlled by hydralisks"`
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`03:21.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`Nooblark`
`03:21.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`I just want you to know`
`03:21.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://imgur.com/gl7uE3j`
`03:21.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:21.54`	`nooblark`	`well i would like to put a : after control, but it don't look right`
`03:22.11`	`nooblark`	`taint, did you remove it, or cut it?`
`03:22.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`I magicited it :`
`03:22.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:22.35`	`nooblark`	`so...`
`03:22.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Domineering Hydra`
`03:22.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`I copy/pasted like areas and blended them in to cover it up`
`03:22.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Or how about S&M Hydralisk?`
`03:22.52`	`nooblark`	`i rather it be computer generated`
`03:23.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`How about Hydrapigs?`
`03:23.43`	`Ahli`	`I see a brown square in the bottom left area`
`03:23.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`OOPs your right`
`03:24.17`	`Ahli`	`take the pipette tool, get some color around and mae a few pixels...`
`03:24.27`	`Ahli`	`and use the smudge tool to smudge the area slightlz`
`03:25.18`	`nooblark`	`this is like french, i've never used photoshop.. so lol`
`03:25.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://imgur.com/n8meP6p\`
`03:25.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`better?`
`03:25.56`	`Ahli`	`yes`
`03:26.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`nooblark you know if you want a photo-edited, and its something simplish you can ask me :P`
`03:26.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`< Not a pro, but knows how to do what needs to be done`
`03:26.46`	`nooblark`	`k so ahli, you think that last one tainted posted is acceptable?`
`03:27.00`	`nooblark`	`tainted, save it and dropbox me it`
`03:27.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`dds or Jpeg?`
`03:27.26`	`Ahli`	`dunno, I think so`
`03:27.56`	`nooblark`	`JPEG`
`03:28.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`WAIT`
`03:28.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`SHIT I FORGOT`
`03:28.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`IA M SUCH A NOOB`
`03:28.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`this is for a loadingscreen rigvht?`
`03:28.37`	`nooblark`	`yes`
`03:28.43`	`nooblark`	`why?`
`03:29.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`you have it the wrong size :P`
`03:29.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`Ill send you an upscaled updated version`
`03:29.22`	`nooblark`	`it fit on my load screen perfectly`
`03:29.25`	`nooblark`	`did you make it smaller?`
`03:29.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`Upscale = Bigger with no loss of quality`
`03:29.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah but it wont fit on OTHER peoples screens right`
`03:29.43`	`Taintedwisp`	`2100 x 1300 is what you want`
`03:29.49`	`nooblark`	`why did you shrink it? :(`
`03:30.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`I didnt shring it :P`
`03:30.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`it was like 1900 x 1100`
`03:30.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`< made it bigger`
`03:31.02`	`nooblark`	`so why would it fit on my screen, but not theirs?`
`03:31.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`people with higher resolutions`
`03:31.15`	`nooblark`	`whats the max size a load screen can be?`
`03:31.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`Several people play with a resolution mod to increase their resolution 1 size`
`03:31.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`infinite`
`03:31.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:31.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`2100 x1300 is just what I recommend, it gets the best quality one everyones screen`
`03:32.11`	`nooblark`	`mk`
`03:32.12`	`nooblark`	`ty`
`03:32.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`BTW.... UPSCALING IS AWESOME`
`03:32.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:32.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`i can make a 200 x 200 picture 1200 x 1200 without a huge loss of quality`
`03:32.34`	`nooblark`	`....`
`03:32.38`	`nooblark`	`it still has the text`
`03:32.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`?`
`03:33.13`	`nooblark`	`it's 1920x1200`
`03:33.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`wtf?`
`03:33.49`	`Taintedwisp`	`I know its the right size I am looking at it in the dropbox right now`
`03:33.52`	`nooblark`	`and it has the text at the bottom still`
`03:34.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`dude thats your original..`
`03:34.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:34.29`	`nooblark`	`you newb`
`03:34.33`	`nooblark`	`put it in evo frenzy`
`03:34.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:35.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`Do you have the dds plug-in nooblark?`
`03:35.25`	`nooblark`	`no`
`03:35.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`...`
`03:35.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`One sec...`
`03:35.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Otherwise your going to increase your map size over what you need to`
`03:35.51`	`nooblark`	`you didn't get rd of the little text above Zone`
`03:35.56`	`nooblark`	`i save it to .tga`
`03:36.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`I didnt know that was there`
`03:36.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`dammit..`
`03:36.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:36.39`	`nooblark`	`take it off`
`03:36.40`	`nooblark`	`:(`
`03:36.49`	`nooblark`	`you're committed at this point`
`03:37.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:37.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`there`
`03:37.49`	`Taintedwisp`	`and its dds`
`03:37.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`so sc2 auto compresses it better`
`03:37.58`	`nooblark`	`i can't edit it`
`03:38.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`TGA doesnt compress as tight as DDS..`
`03:38.13`	`nooblark`	`give me a plugin for dds now.`
`03:38.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`https://developer.nvidia.com/nvidia-texture-tools-adobe-photoshop`
`03:38.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:38.20`	`nooblark`	`and directions how to install it`
`03:38.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`its an installer...`
`03:38.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:38.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`Run the exe`
`03:38.46`	`nooblark`	`k`
`03:38.47`	`nooblark`	`ty`
`03:38.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`Starcraft runs off .dds :P pretty much almost every file in sc2 is .dds`
`03:39.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`TGA is for when the picture isnt a multiple of 4`
`03:41.08`	`Ahli`	`paint.net can save dds with any dimensions`
`03:41.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Even the scripts are dds.`
`03:41.28`	`JademusSreg`	`dds models, dds sounds. It's like magic.`
`03:41.40`	`Ahli`	`I use dds images renamed as tga to feed them to the models >_>`
`03:42.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Rawr.`
`03:42.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:43.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`he knew what i ment... atleast I hope he didnt think that .dds was models... :P they are just the textures for the models`
`03:44.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`And nooblark when you do get it installed use DXT3, Explicit alpha no mipmaps.`
`03:44.19`	`Ahli`	`I use dxt5 :o`
`03:44.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`and that comma was in the wrong place -_-`
`03:44.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. This is a person who lobs molotive joke cocktails at innocent bystanders.`
`03:44.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`I USE to use DXT5, but my loading screen would only half render, and hten in the last 10 seconds it would finish`
`03:44.47`	`JademusSreg`	`*molotov`
`03:44.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`03:44.54`	`Ahli`	`lol`
`03:45.05`	`Ahli`	`interesting :D`
`03:45.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`INNOCENT... ? innocent my ass..`
`03:45.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`they are guilty as hell`
`03:46.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`Who else here is tired of answering questions about how to fix simple command card?`
`03:46.52`	`JademusSreg`	`I'm not, but people don't seem to understand what I'm saying.`
`03:47.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Menu > Options > Gameplay > New Options`
`03:48.49`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`03:48.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`Well they are asking how to fix it in their maps...`
`03:49.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`And the trigger that was made to fix it is new..`
`03:49.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`the Override Player Option Trigger`
`03:49.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`well action`
`03:49.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah yes, that.`
`03:52.46`	`Ahli`	`"f10 Menu > Options > Gameplay > Check bottom right thin in middle area" is something that people I speak to understand`
`03:52.56`	`Ahli`	`*thing`
`03:53.02`	`Taintedwisp`	`JademusSreg, you notice blizzard picks the absolute worst options to have enabled by default :P`
`03:53.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`03:53.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`I bet if there was a start with no workers option... it would be default..`
`03:53.28`	`JademusSreg`	`No, not the worst. But far from the best.`
`03:53.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`how about the new modifications tab or the New sort by source..`
`03:54.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`Because thats what a new mappe wants to do have things pre jumbled up..`
`03:54.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:54.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`Why not just have mouse click enabled :P`
`03:55.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`but yeah its pretty funny..`
`03:55.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Starting with Mature Language Filter always reenabled after each patch. Like a failed overture not-subtly encouraging me to curse less.`
`03:56.01`	`Ahli`	`I bet it counts curses on bnet for your bnet ID`
`03:56.10`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`03:56.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`And then tenarsis or one of the devs will come on here, and I will be listening to them, and realize they fucked up something on purpose just to be a smartass about it... Like the modifications... they Decompressed it, changed something NO ONE was complaining about, and then came on here and said " Well this is what it was like in wc3 dont you want it exactly like wc3" -_-`
`03:57.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`Hah, I think I irritated him by my relaxed response though :P`
`03:57.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`I told him while its a step in the right direction it was on the wrong path`
`03:57.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:57.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`after that he just said make a forum post`
`03:57.52`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`03:58.24`	`Ahli`	`wc3 is for noobs :D`
`03:59.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`Fixed size arrays are now edited as one control for each array entry rather than using a list-based UI.`
`03:59.04`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`03:59.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thats the one..`
`03:59.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`Fixed..... more like made more tedious`
`03:59.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`A greyed out Green Plus doesnt bother me when I can copy and paste to multiple..`
`03:59.41`	`A1win`	`mm they can't be selected simultaneously anymore`
`03:59.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`now I have to sleect each one..`
`03:59.49`	`Taintedwisp`	`And they are laggy`
`03:59.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`there is a 1-2 second lag inbetween each one for me`
`04:00.20`	`JademusSreg`	`I curse an exquisite amount and with near-prescient timing. My deployment of obscenities have the precision and craftsmanship of a folded carbon-rich ribbon of deadly steel, a fuckatana forged by the fabled cuntsmiths whose traditions have endured for centuries. I don't need a goddamn mature language filter.`
`04:01.13`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`04:01.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`I go on battle.net and bring back the Brood War experience`
`04:01.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`you know the great one only compared to the vanilla barrens chat...`
`04:01.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`40% chuck norrise, 40% racism 20% your mother`
`04:02.39`	`A1win`	`an attempt to fall asleep, take two ->`
`04:10.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`NO SLEEP FOR YOU`
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`04:14.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Ingest legendary quantities of stimulants and stay awake forever / until you suffer sudden cardiac arrest. =D`
`04:20.55`	`Ahli`	`I trigger a launch effect and when the distance is small it uses a different direction than it does on long distances :X`
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`04:29.46`	`Ahli`	`need help to fake the old triggered move unit + blend with launch effects :S`
`04:36.50`	`Dogmai`	`~seen blizz-deletarius`
`04:36.54`	`purl`	`blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 9d 12h 30m 12s ago, saying: 'adios'.`
`04:41.37`	`Ahli`	`ok, placement in the launch effect made that displacement`
`04:43.58`	`JademusSreg`	`???`
`04:44.41`	`Ahli`	`if you launch a unit for like 0.1 distance, you displace it from its target point`
`04:44.49`	`Ahli`	`if the launch effect uses placement`
`04:45.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Neato.`
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`04:48.54`	`nooblark`	`okay first off, fuck comcast for dropping my internets`
`04:49.04`	`nooblark`	`secondly, fuck comcast again for making talking dead only in HD`
`04:49.23`	`nooblark`	`i'm so about to cancel their shitty fucking service`
`04:49.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Is Talking Dead a zombie reality tv show?`
`04:49.50`	`nooblark`	`it's a show about another show, that is about zombies.`
`04:50.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`04:50.44`	`nooblark`	`it comes on after the actual show, discusses what happened in the last episode, and gives the viewers inside look at the actors/effects of the show`
`04:51.21`	`JademusSreg`	`My next guess would have been "conmen convince grief-striken audience members they speak to the departed".`
`04:54.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`its about gay zombies in the mountains eating puddin`
`04:55.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Too bad I'm not interested in zombies.`
`04:55.19`	`nooblark`	`that's a shame jade`
`04:56.52`	`motive`	`nooblark: thirdly, fuck comcast again.`
`04:56.54`	`motive`	`just for you`
`04:58.36`	`JademusSreg`	`I mean, I've explored the scenarios, the various mechanisms by which such things might operate, the implications and consequences of animated corpses driven by the most basic lower-brain impulses. I mean to say that while the idea of reanimated corpses and contagious zombifying pathogens are interesting, I don't see what zombie-centric media contributes to the tradition, or to my enrichment.`
`04:59.05`	`JademusSreg`	`How many undead cannibals does it take to convey an idea?`
`04:59.58`	`nooblark`	`how made Jades does it take to troll?`
`05:00.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Only a fraction of one.`
`05:10.41`	`nooblark`	`why the fuck did i listen to tainted?`
`05:10.46`	`nooblark`	`he totally broke my fucking load screen`
`05:11.30`	`nooblark`	`everyone uses different resolutions, why the hell would i want my load screen to display too big for some people rather than too small for others? DERP DERP`
`05:12.05`	`nooblark`	`and the size is 600KB bigger than my old file.`
`05:12.08`	`nooblark`	`my god.`
`05:12.10`	`nooblark`	`what a newb`
`05:14.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Aspect ratio is what matters, iirc.`
`05:14.56`	`nooblark`	`i have no idea what that means, nor iirc`
`05:15.01`	`nooblark`	`stop speaking nerd.`
`05:15.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`nooblark..`
`05:15.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`you put it on stretch..`
`05:15.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`05:15.19`	`nooblark`	`no`
`05:15.21`	`nooblark`	`i didnt`
`05:15.23`	`nooblark`	`scrub`
`05:15.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`your supposed to..`
`05:15.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`thats why its bigger, so it will shrink correctly to everyones size..`
`05:15.39`	`JademusSreg`	`So far as I am aware, I speak in IRC roughly how I speak in person.`
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`05:16.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`like a dick?`
`05:16.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`05:16.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`hahaha, jk`
`05:16.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Though speaking in person affords fewer opportunities at typographical error puns.`
`05:16.20`	`JademusSreg`	`And yes.`
`05:16.48`	`nooblark`	`thanks jade.`
`05:16.56`	`nooblark`	`aspect fixed it`
`05:17.00`	`JademusSreg`	`kk`
`05:17.02`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`05:17.42`	`nooblark`	`now time to make an icon :)`
`05:18.05`	`nooblark`	`beta inc soon too :o`
`05:19.31`	`nooblark`	`hmm whaty to do`
`05:21.44`	`nooblark`	`tainted you ready to make it up to me?`
`05:22.42`	`nooblark`	`what's a good size for an icon?`
`05:23.31`	`nooblark`	`225x150`
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`05:29.35`	`JademusSreg`	`76*76`
`05:29.42`	`JademusSreg`	`For buttons.`
`05:30.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Oh, and I may have a pack of icons on hand you could use in your loadscreen.`
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`05:36.04`	`nooblark`	`jade`
`05:36.07`	`nooblark`	`u okay?`
`05:36.15`	`JademusSreg`	`How do you mean?`
`05:38.35`	`nooblark`	`trolling`
`05:38.45`	`nooblark`	`normally you aren't so trolly`
`05:39.34`	`JademusSreg`	`It's more "playful" than "attempting to enrage internet people".`
`05:40.03`	`JademusSreg`	`https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Images/IconPack.psd`
`05:41.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Those are the icons for SC2 channel/group, SC2Mapster (had to make that one custom), TeamLiquid, Gmail, IRC, Facebook and Reddit.`
`05:42.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`05:42.21`	`nooblark`	`i wish i could tie these cartoon things together`
`05:42.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`I respect his trolling :P`
`05:43.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`Nooblark its the 27th amendment to the constitution and the 11th in the bill of rights`
`05:43.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`"you have the right to troll people"`
`05:43.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`RIGHT TO TROLL RIGHT TO TROLL RIGHT TO TROLL`
`05:43.45`	`JademusSreg`	`And the 113th protocol of Zion. And the 42nd rule of the internet.`
`05:44.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`exactly`
`05:44.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`I might not agree with what hes saying, but dammit Im going to fight tooth and nail on mortal kombat to defend his right to troll`
`05:45.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Nicely done.`
`05:45.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`Thank you.`
`05:45.50`	`Ahli`	`can I create new tokens for actors?`
`05:45.58`	`nooblark`	`i need pretty :(`
`05:46.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`05:46.07`	`Ahli`	`I want to make my selectable forcefield map much more user friendly`
`05:46.17`	`Taintedwisp`	`Ahli... you kep talking about black people like that they wont like you.`
`05:46.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`keep*`
`05:46.42`	`Ahli`	`please leave`
`05:46.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`05:47.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, the bad news is that actor event message (though not the events) content is validated, so token expressions won't work there. D=`
`05:47.40`	`Taintedwisp`	`okay thats enough trolling for now`
`05:47.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`I will be beack in an hour`
`05:49.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, Ctrl Alt A is the hotkey to add tokens.`
`05:49.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Since it's not obvious how to add them to data without an extant token.`
`05:49.59`	`Ahli`	`I only need to add one for the unit that is birthed, etc`
`05:51.11`	`Ahli`	`no token for model actors?`
`05:51.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, if you want the make the token field pop a dropdown to select entries in a given catalog, you'll need to add a bit manually to the token definition.`
`05:51.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Tokens can de added to any data class.`
`05:51.58`	`Ahli`	`shift alt a`
`05:52.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Should work.`
`05:52.23`	`JademusSreg`	`If it doesn't, go to XML view mode.`
`05:52.51`	`JademusSreg`	`What kind of data class will your token link?`
`05:53.46`	`JademusSreg`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:54.30`	`Ahli`	`unit`
`05:54.46`	`JademusSreg`	`<PROTECTED>`
`05:54.52`	`Ahli`	`I attach a transparent model to the unit which is selectable`
`05:55.09`	`Ahli`	`to allow the selection of units that have a model that isn't selectable`
`05:55.17`	`JademusSreg`	`Makes sense.`
`05:55.28`	`Ahli`	`plus my fix for owner changes`
`05:56.10`	`Ahli`	`somehow that actor is only working, when the unit has its original owner again`
`05:56.42`	`Ahli`	`though, I can create units that are only selectable via players I choose :D`
`05:56.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, once you add that line (below the opening tag for the entry), avoid modifying the entry again, since any changes will cause the editor to strip the type info.`
`05:57.37`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`05:57.44`	`nooblark`	`does that background look too dark?`
`05:57.55`	`nooblark`	`i don't want it to be black, but i want it to be dark.. lol`
`05:58.22`	`nooblark`	`and have a hardly noticable pattern`
`05:58.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Needs green zergy fluids.`
`05:58.44`	`JademusSreg`	`And also, no spine crawler.`
`05:59.31`	`Ahli`	`what do I need to write to fields to make it use the token?`
`05:59.31`	`nooblark`	`waaa?`
`05:59.36`	`nooblark`	`spine crawler makes it!`
`05:59.53`	`JademusSreg`	`The token expression will be the id delimited by ##`
`06:00.44`	`nooblark`	`i agree it needs some slime`
`06:00.56`	`JademusSreg`	`noobl, the image is imbalanced. Not that just removing the spinecrawler fixes it, but it makes it less imbalanced.`
`06:01.10`	`nooblark`	`but i think the spine makes it.. considering the only units really in it are hydra, spines, overlords, and some misc buildings for upgrades.`
`06:01.24`	`nooblark`	`should i add more hydras then?`
`06:02.00`	`JademusSreg`	`It's not about more or less stuff, it's about the relationships between the elements of the composition.`
`06:03.01`	`nooblark`	`i have zero talent in the art department.`
`06:03.19`	`nooblark`	`i understand you're saying it's imbalanced, but i can't pinpoint 'how'`
`06:03.43`	`JademusSreg`	`The spinecrawler is not the biggest element, but it is brighter, and it draws one's attention to its side.`
`06:04.02`	`JademusSreg`	`The focus is lopsided and directed nowhere in particular.`
`06:04.17`	`nooblark`	`i could make the text brighter`
`06:04.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha.`
`06:04.29`	`nooblark`	`it's not supposed to feel dark.. i want it to be cartoony`
`06:04.46`	`nooblark`	`but i want it on a darker background, looking for a green one atm`
`06:04.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Give the hydra googley eyes?`
`06:04.52`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`06:04.55`	`nooblark`	`good idea`
`06:05.56`	`nooblark`	`i wish i could video record that spine attacking, and get it in a good pose, with the hydra crying with googely eyes because he's going to get attacked`
`06:05.59`	`nooblark`	`that would be epic.`
`06:06.12`	`nooblark`	`OMG`
`06:06.14`	`nooblark`	`what if`
`06:06.20`	`nooblark`	`the spine was poking the hyrdra`
`06:06.25`	`nooblark`	`and hydra googely crying`
`06:06.58`	`Ahli`	`well, it changes that only once... o0`
`06:07.04`	`JademusSreg`	`I'd put the ZCH on the headplate of a hydralisk head from a lateral view.`
`06:07.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, reset the fields that have been changed / should have been changed.`
`06:08.00`	`JademusSreg`	`Assuming it is inheriting from the data entry with the token.`
`06:08.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Actually, maybe I should provide examples.`
`06:08.43`	`nooblark`	`so make hydra bigger and put the ZCH in it's head with teary googely eyes with the spine poking it?`
`06:08.53`	`Ahli`	`<?token id="effect" type="CEffectLink" value="NULL"?> what was this for?`
`06:09.18`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll pastebin some examples.`
`06:10.07`	`Ahli`	`using "unitName" as tokenID and ##unitName## in the events did not work...`
`06:11.11`	`JademusSreg`	`http://pastebin.com/rSd7zZjW`
`06:11.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, you must commit the xml changes (Ctrl Shift X) before changing views again.`
`06:12.13`	`JademusSreg`	`And I reiterate the need to not ever modify the entry again. Inherit from it.`
`06:12.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Thus the example.`
`06:13.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Making sense?`
`06:14.03`	`Ahli`	`<PROTECTED>`
`06:14.14`	`Ahli`	`I added the token definition line to the xml`
`06:14.37`	`JademusSreg`	`Positioned where?`
`06:14.57`	`Ahli`	`<?token id="unitToken" type="CUnitLink" value="NULL"?> first line inside the actor`
`06:15.12`	`JademusSreg`	`Strange.`
`06:15.33`	`JademusSreg`	`When did that message pop?`
`06:15.39`	`JademusSreg`	`Following commit?`
`06:15.46`	`Ahli`	`commit`
`06:16.10`	`Ahli`	`http://pastebin.com/h1zSTZ4w I failed to copy the closing tag`
`06:16.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Double strange.`
`06:17.08`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll do some testing.`
`06:17.26`	`Ahli`	`maybe because I added one via GUI before`
`06:17.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Hm.`
`06:18.01`	`Ahli`	`deleted old one, now it commited`
`06:18.10`	`Ahli`	`but GUI doesn't create a token area`
`06:18.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Ah, must have been a malformed token tag in the xml.`
`06:21.56`	`JademusSreg`	`But yeah, annoying that the editor strips out the type info if you make any change to the entry. Necessitates inheriting from it.`
`06:22.08`	`JademusSreg`	`Otherwise, the token defaults to raw string input.`
`06:22.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`theres jademus talking about tokens again -_-... the racism level here is just amazing...`
`06:23.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Baduntsss.`
`06:23.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`:O`
`06:27.23`	`Ahli`	`won't work o0`
`06:27.30`	`JademusSreg`	`How so?`
`06:27.46`	`Ahli`	`it doesn't create a token field in the GUI... =/`
`06:28.10`	`JademusSreg`	`I do not have that issue.`
`06:28.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Not in any of my extant entries. I'll test with a new one.`
`06:28.40`	`Ahli`	`http://pastebin.com/kRu9hscj`
`06:28.44`	`Ahli`	`make it work :D`
`06:30.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Same error you got. Interesting.`
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`06:39.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahaha.`
`06:39.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Fixed it.`
`06:39.25`	`Dogmai`	`jade is gay`
`06:39.27`	`Dogmai`	`<3`
`06:39.29`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`06:39.32`	`Dogmai`	`see`
`06:39.34`	`Dogmai`	`told you he was gay`
`06:39.37`	`Dogmai`	`he gave me man love`
`06:39.42`	`Ahli`	`what was wrong?`
`06:39.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Totally. I'm in love with myself.`
`06:40.15`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, add default="1" to the entry's tag before the id attribute.`
`06:40.55`	`JademusSreg`	`Doesn't make a single fuck of sense, but the entry must have the default flag.`
`06:41.14`	`Ahli`	`what?`
`06:41.26`	`JademusSreg`	`Check my pastebin examples again. =D`
`06:42.13`	`Ahli`	`works`
`06:42.29`	`Ahli`	`what does the default note there do?`
`06:42.36`	`Ahli`	`besides this strange effect`
`06:42.55`	`JademusSreg`	`It also adds entries to the default parent dropdown option.`
`06:43.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Add a new actor of Model type, and in the parent dropdown you'll see your entry.`
`06:43.37`	`Ahli`	`ok, so it's the flag in the properties`
`06:43.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes.`
`06:44.19`	`JademusSreg`	`I add it manually, since the editor doesn't want to let you have both the default flag and a parent.,`
`06:44.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`< has no new material to troll with yet`
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`07:00.40`	`Ahli`	`http://i.imgur.com/QXjKCia.jpg`
`07:03.42`	`twodie`	`STOP NOLIFING!!!`
`07:04.06`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`07:05.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Perhaps they added that to remind Korean players to not play themselves to death?`
`07:06.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`ahli is that real or a joke?`
`07:06.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`nvm`
`07:06.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`The borders of it :P`
`07:07.18`	`nooblark`	`this`
`07:07.18`	`nooblark`	`is`
`07:07.20`	`nooblark`	`IOHWEIOFHWEIOFJ`
`07:07.25`	`iMisu`	`lies`
`07:07.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`nooblark shove it up your lark`
`07:07.54`	`iMisu`	`?`
`07:07.58`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`07:08.04`	`iMisu`	`wtf`
`07:08.05`	`nooblark`	`that's as far as i can get`
`07:08.08`	`nooblark`	`im falling asleep`
`07:08.13`	`JademusSreg`	`That is adorable.`
`07:08.14`	`iMisu`	`I never knew i could type ? then a equasion`
`07:08.22`	`nooblark`	`i like the hydra`
`07:08.26`	`nooblark`	`and the spine..`
`07:08.33`	`nooblark`	`and maybe even the slime, but it's sorta bright`
`07:08.33`	`iMisu`	`equation*`
`07:08.39`	`nooblark`	`and the background don't match`
`07:08.54`	`Ahli`	`dunno http://www.reddit.com/r/starcraft/comments/1907g9/undicovered_feature_in_hots/`
`07:09.00`	`Bommes`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PAr2DEEIwds#! time to upgrade my pc`
`07:09.52`	`JademusSreg`	`Unlimited Detail`
`07:09.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Harhar`
`07:10.04`	`nooblark`	`so jade, you like it so far?`
`07:10.13`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, that works.`
`07:10.18`	`nooblark`	`my eyes are hurting, i normally go to be 3 hours ago.`
`07:10.29`	`nooblark`	`i'm going to play with it more, try and get it a little nicer`
`07:10.38`	`nooblark`	`those eyes were the best suggestion ever :P`
`07:10.57`	`JademusSreg`	`I joke with sincerity.`
`07:11.08`	`nooblark`	`i had the spine crawler poking the hydra (same picture as that one, but facing outward) but it didn't look as good`
`07:11.25`	`iMisu`	`http://imgur.com/gallery/euuhL`
`07:11.32`	`nooblark`	`i need to just make slime darker, background something else, and the text a diff color`
`07:11.39`	`nooblark`	`though i'd like to keep it purple, since zerg.`
`07:12.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Get some rest, noobl.`
`07:12.38`	`nooblark`	`i am`
`07:12.44`	`nooblark`	`i'll see you tomorrow when i wake.`
`07:12.53`	`nooblark`	`it seems you're always on before me, and after me :P`
`07:13.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol corbo freaked out`
`07:13.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Unlike the Playstation Network, I am always online.`
`07:13.16`	`nooblark`	`taz, you work tomorrow?`
`07:13.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Wat Taint?`
`07:13.26`	`nooblark`	`lol jade`
`07:14.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`07:14.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`ji made fun of EW and Corbo pisses his pants thats waht -_-...`
`07:14.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`07:14.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`pretty funny though`
`07:15.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`im too busy this week to get banned so I wont say anymore... probably`
`07:17.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`JademusSreg i have the urge http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/general/off-topic/49120-i-just-bought-hot-s/?page=2#p27 to ask corbo if he needs a bandaid.... for his bleeding vagina`
`07:17.54`	`Ahli`	`well, you haven't been very nice to all cod fanboys with your post`
`07:19.49`	`JademusSreg`	`It would be beneficial if, to keep topics on-topic, off-topic posts were moved to a single thread, far, far away.`
`07:20.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`07:20.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`kawk`
`07:20.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`;aw;`
`07:20.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`dammit`
`07:20.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`dark keyboard`
`07:20.22`	`JademusSreg`	`Kawk. I like that hip new spelling.`
`07:20.23`	`Taintedwisp`	`lalw`
`07:20.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`FUCK`
`07:40.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`07:41.08`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`07:43.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`you all just go quiet without me :P`
`07:44.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`I SWEAR I AM SOO HAPPY I DONT HAVE TO BE ANY KIND OF ROLE MODEL ON MAPSTER hahaha`
`07:44.58`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think I may never moderate a website, or try to gain any sort of power again... it fucking sucks, always having to act your best...`
`07:45.19`	`JademusSreg`	`Arete, man.`
`07:45.34`	`Vindicator`	`You've tried acting your best somewhere!?`
`07:45.40`	`Vindicator`	`where does this place exist!?`
`07:45.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Hahaha.`
`07:45.54`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`07:46.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`Actually vindicator I have ran about 5 websites :P`
`07:46.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`2 major the rest clan sites`
`07:46.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`plus I was one of the top students in my school and such`
`07:47.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`In my school I had to go to actual board meetings and such... it sucked but I got out of class for a bit`
`07:47.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`I was "Speaking on behalf of the students"`
`07:48.07`	`Vindicator`	`So basically meanwhile at these board meetings the forced maturity allows all the immaturity to build up from within and we get to deal with it. Now everything makes sense :)`
`07:48.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`:)`
`07:48.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`Its fun having somewhere to relax and just be immature for a bit`
`07:49.46`	`Taintedwisp`	`I liked going to those meetings, Watching old people fight over money was fun... BUT, i hated having to be a role model to someone else..`
`07:50.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Not to mention I have a great talent for trolling :P I cant let that go to waste`
`07:50.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`:))`
`08:05.53`	`JademusSreg`	`Time to sleep.`
`08:08.17`	`Bommes`	`wat`
`08:08.20`	`Bommes`	`you sleep?`
`08:08.25`	`Bommes`	`I thought you are a robot operating 24/7`
`08:08.32`	`Ahli`	`I'm a robot`
`08:08.37`	`Bommes`	`yeah you too`
`08:09.14`	`Ahli`	`best way to make sure that the user can only put numbers and point into the text field?`
`08:09.29`	`Ahli`	`do I really need to parse for correct real values myself?`
`08:12.31`	`Bommes`	`no idea, sry`
`08:12.50`	`Bommes`	`the only one in this chat who might know the answer went to sleep 5 minutes ago`
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`09:00.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`not true bommes, the candyman can`
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`09:16.48`	`Dogmai`	`Is there any way to change the height of a doodad via triggers`
`09:17.07`	`Dogmai`	`Taintedwisp: Dustin\|Home zeldarules28`
`09:17.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`Viatriggers? uhh I dunno`
`09:20.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`Dogmai`
`09:20.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`you use variables of type Actor and initialize them with an "Actor From Doodad" function, then use the Send Actor Message trigger with the variable as a parameter to change height/color.`
`09:21.16`	`Dogmai`	`hmm`
`09:21.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/triggers/34385-doodad-triggers/`
`09:21.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`09:23.46`	`Dogmai`	`smart little cookie you are`
`09:23.58`	`Dogmai`	`I started work on the RPG`
`09:24.12`	`Dogmai`	`So I am doing the cinematics atm`
`09:30.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`Ah`
`09:30.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`cool`
`09:35.11`	`Dogmai`	`We put a call out for voice actors`
`09:35.13`	`Dogmai`	`if you know anyone`
`09:37.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`not really`
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`11:02.33`	`twodie`	`Zolden what are you making right now?`
`11:08.11`	`G0A`	`anyone tested if modifying loading screen help now works?`
`11:10.11`	`Zolden`	`twodie: i'm about to finish glass castle improvement, and then homm`
`11:10.33`	`Zolden`	`G0A: it never worked, noobd dont' read loading screen help`
`11:11.26`	`G0A`	`well they added a new loading screen stuff: FieldDefault SC2 UI Settings`
`11:11.26`	`G0A`	`UI: Loading Screen Help Intro +`
`11:11.46`	`G0A`	`maybe than they fixed it?`
`11:14.18`	`Zolden`	`can we put there some text via map ionfo menu?`
`11:15.30`	`twodie`	`Zolden a HOMM? :O`
`11:15.43`	`twodie`	`it will be still real time strategy?`
`11:18.36`	`Zolden`	`it will be wasd fps on triggers`
`11:19.16`	`twodie`	`Zolden`
`11:19.18`	`twodie`	`zolden`
`11:19.26`	`twodie`	`ZooooooooooooooollllllllllllllllllldddddddddddddennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnZ`
`11:19.43`	`Zolden`	`trying to imitate clothes by ribbons`
`11:19.46`	`twodie`	`so what really what you going to do about it?`
`11:20.10`	`Zolden`	`I'll rework mechanics, dialogs`
`11:20.34`	`Zolden`	`maybe improve some models`
`11:20.39`	`Zolden`	`some balance`
`11:20.45`	`Zolden`	`i have a big list of changes`
`11:21.17`	`twodie`	`so does it will turn based?`
`11:21.22`	`twodie`	`and how about those battles?`
`11:22.28`	`Zolden`	`i'd like to add them, it will happen in some other homm map, this one isn't compartible with tbs battles`
`11:23.04`	`Zolden`	`it's something u have to have in mind from the beginning and adjust other things to fit`
`11:23.31`	`Zolden`	`my homm is simple noob made rts, and will stay like this`
`11:27.07`	`Zolden`	`but i seriously plan to create homm2 with tbs battles`
`11:47.03`	`twodie`	`lol that guy in review was right mass catapults really quite op :D`
`11:47.49`	`Zolden`	`u know what`
`11:48.14`	`twodie`	`no`
`11:48.16`	`Zolden`	`how much time left between u implemented the actual balance system and figured out that mass cata op?`
`11:48.17`	`twodie`	`tell me`
`11:48.39`	`twodie`	`well`
`11:48.54`	`twodie`	`finally got some in editor to players a click tests`
`11:49.11`	`twodie`	`so aoe is bad for units health`
`11:49.41`	`twodie`	`lets eat apple!`
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`12:03.45`	`evily`	`hi:).. Im trying to make a trigger that resets the owner of a building if there are no units near it. I tried this trigger but it wont work, but thats because i think the building registers as a unit too. Is there a way to make it so it only looks for example ground units and not structures? http://snag.gy/7r2Bw.jpg`
`12:07.21`	`Zolden`	`рщц фищге ьфлштп ше мшф вфеф,`
`12:07.29`	`Zolden`	`how about making it via data?`
`12:07.33`	`Zolden`	`it's fucking easy`
`12:08.33`	`Zolden`	`things like this are supposed to be solved by data`
`12:08.40`	`twodie`	`evily add in filters Structures EXCLUDED`
`12:10.37`	`evily`	`where do i find filters?`
`12:10.57`	`twodie`	`in the condition action`
`12:11.17`	`twodie`	`there you can see already that its exclude dead, missle, hidden`
`12:11.25`	`evily`	`ah thanks. very nice`
`12:16.28`	`evily`	`is there a way to make a unit be considered a structure? or are these things hardcoded?`
`12:16.41`	`twodie`	`data`
`12:16.52`	`twodie`	`you go to data and there are in Units tab`
`12:17.01`	`twodie`	`the attributes of units`
`12:18.31`	`evily`	`so if i but that attribute on a unit, it would be excluded by the structure filter?`
`12:20.32`	`evily`	`well i tested it, and it looks like it does`
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`12:33.41`	`hobbidude`	`~seen jademus`
`12:33.46`	`purl`	`jademus <Owenalacas@c-76-123-249-135.hsd1.tn.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 496d 19h 33m 15s ago, saying: '(Wish we actually had namespaces.)'.`
`12:37.13`	`hobbidude`	`what effect would i use to rotate a unit?`
`12:40.52`	`Otixa_`	`YAY`
`12:40.56`	`Otixa_`	`BOOK IN MAIL :D`
`12:41.09`	`Otixa_`	`does the new book dance`
`12:41.47`	`Zolden`	`what book? "how to stop being noob"?`
`12:42.20`	`Otixa_`	`Nah, but you should get one ;p`
`12:42.41`	`Zolden`	`i got 5, didn't help`
`12:42.57`	`Otixa_`	`Desigining Virtual Worlds`
`12:43.38`	`Zolden`	`like in "Lawnmowerman"?`
`12:44.50`	`Otixa_`	`nou`
`12:45.06`	`Otixa_`	`http://www.amazon.co.uk/Designing-Virtual-Worlds-Richard-Bartle/dp/0131018167/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1361537101&sr=8-1`
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`12:55.37`	`Zolden`	`in russia it would take 2 more week to be delivered ;/`
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`13:09.45`	`evily`	`i have a wierd bug in my map. i set up predefined teams. there are 4 total with two players on each team. however, for some reason player 1 and 8 become allies, but they are not suppose to. only 1 and two are. i check my triggers and there is nothing in there that could be causing it. Got any suggestions what could be doing it?`
`13:11.04`	`evily`	`so far ive only been able to test with AI's. could that for some random reason be causing it?`
`13:23.14`	`Ahli`	`did you test with a published version or an editor test with computers defined in player properties?`
`13:24.57`	`Ahli`	`in editor tests, each player belongs to its own team. when published, it uses the teams created in lobby`
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`13:30.53`	`evily`	`it was a published test. and somethings very wrong. joined another team in the lobby, had the same start location as before but a new ally`
`13:31.04`	`evily`	`so random`
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`14:06.31`	`Dogmai`	`anyone wanna play tofu`
`14:06.37`	`Dogmai`	`i need to capture osme more video`
`14:07.48`	`Ahli`	`I want to eat food and have a shower`
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`14:36.01`	`Zolden`	`wow`
`14:36.14`	`Zolden`	`ribbons are pretty good for clothes emulation`
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`14:52.34`	`Dustin\|Home`	`Sup gangsters`
`15:00.15`	`nooblark`	`dustin`
`15:00.18`	`nooblark`	`y u no at work`
`15:01.16`	`Dogmai`	`Dustin\|Home:`
`15:01.18`	`Dogmai`	`tofu`
`15:01.20`	`Dogmai`	`plox`
`15:02.20`	`evily`	`do you guys have any tips on how to get new people to play your map?`
`15:02.50`	`nooblark`	`make it not suck`
`15:02.59`	`Dogmai`	`we use naked girls`
`15:03.00`	`Dogmai`	`just saying`
`15:03.14`	`nooblark`	`honestly, don't publish it for just the sake of doing it`
`15:03.33`	`nooblark`	`wait until it's been tested a lot, and works flawlessly for major events`
`15:04.14`	`nooblark`	`i'll be more than happy to help test if it's a first copy, so we can work out some of the bugs`
`15:04.16`	`Dogmai`	`get a girl to strip naked for your launch video`
`15:04.20`	`Dogmai`	`srsly o_O`
`15:11.20`	`evily`	`id love some help testing, im sure there is something i have forgot`
`15:11.49`	`evily`	`but to be honest i think blizzards arcade system could use an overhaul to make it easier for new maps to get some plays`
`15:12.19`	`nooblark`	`pm me if you want some help, i'm minimized doing something, won't see when you're ready`
`15:13.32`	`evily`	`what server are you on?`
`15:13.38`	`nooblark`	`NA`
`15:13.55`	`evily`	`Im on EU`
`15:14.00`	`nooblark`	`oh`
`15:14.02`	`nooblark`	`:(`
`15:14.14`	`evily`	`i think i can switch server tho. let me check`
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`15:19.10`	`iMisu`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=fvwp&v=ZfnCSaegdmg`
`15:20.06`	`iMisu`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGlw8J3fJUQ`
`15:20.10`	`iMisu`	`ricer mustang ROFL`
`15:21.54`	`iMisu`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHx8dfVyby4`
`15:23.56`	`Dogmai`	`~seen blizz-artestru`
`15:24.04`	`purl`	`blizz-artestru <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 14h 22m 59s ago, saying: 'That's not my department. :)'.`
`15:24.41`	`nooblark`	`i have nothing against the first mustang per se`
`15:24.58`	`nooblark`	`they can look good with kits on them`
`15:25.32`	`iMisu`	`I made soup of a stang asking me to race last night lol`
`15:25.49`	`iMisu`	`either he was in a 6, or just stupid`
`15:25.51`	`iMisu`	`maybe both`
`15:26.18`	`nooblark`	`http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/GAS2010RedMistMustangPanLeftTwo001small.jpg`
`15:26.28`	`iMisu`	`oh god`
`15:26.52`	`nooblark`	`the only problem with the body kid on this`
`15:26.58`	`nooblark`	`is it's too curvy`
`15:27.40`	`iMisu`	`going to the dealer in 20 min`
`15:29.25`	`nooblark`	`why?`
`15:29.38`	`iMisu`	`cause 2nd gear is fucked`
`15:30.52`	`nooblark`	`...`
`15:31.09`	`nooblark`	`how do you manage to keep buying defective cars?`
`15:31.15`	`nooblark`	`what's wrong with it?`
`15:31.21`	`iMisu`	`i didnt keep buying defective cars`
`15:31.24`	`iMisu`	`whats wrong with you`
`15:31.30`	`nooblark`	`first one had a clutch issue?`
`15:31.37`	`iMisu`	`no ?`
`15:31.38`	`nooblark`	`second one has a problem with 2nd gear..`
`15:31.42`	`iMisu`	`its not the clutch`
`15:31.44`	`iMisu`	`just 2nd gear`
`15:31.48`	`iMisu`	`same car, 1 issue`
`15:32.02`	`iMisu`	`http://riceorama.com/images/2009/feb/alien_civic.jpg`
`15:32.19`	`nooblark`	`you totally said before it had a cluctch issue and you had to go back, so you got a new one`
`15:32.32`	`iMisu`	`I said it MIGHT be clutch`
`15:32.38`	`nooblark`	`okay`
`15:43.12`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`15:43.16`	`nooblark`	`what do you guys think of that?`
`15:45.00`	`nooblark`	`i really like it, the color of the letters are fine too, but i think they need a different font.`
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`15:51.20`	`Zolden`	`make em more hitler alike`
`15:51.48`	`iMisu`	`ke back later kiddies`
`15:51.51`	`Zolden`	`tried to use rbbons for clothes emulation: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN-umQ6gnHo`
`15:52.39`	`G0A`	`WOW GUYS`
`15:52.49`	`G0A`	`editing loading screen tips now works!!!!!!!!`
`15:53.00`	`Zolden`	`what does it do`
`15:54.22`	`A1win`	`how can I make a channeled ability apply a buff on the target unit for the duration of the channel?`
`15:56.37`	`A1win`	`ah, expire effect for the persistent I guess`
`15:56.49`	`A1win`	`*final effect`
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`16:01.54`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`16:01.58`	`nooblark`	`how does that one look?`
`16:02.55`	`nooblark`	`now i'm thinking i should mvoe the spine closer to hydra, so they seem more friendly to eachother`
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`16:03.03`	`nooblark`	`and maybe make text a little smaller`
`16:03.14`	`nooblark`	`heya Deletarius`
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`16:03.29`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`hey everyone`
`16:03.34`	`nooblark`	`looking for opinions!`
`16:03.35`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`16:03.41`	`nooblark`	`icon for my map :P`
`16:03.42`	`Dogmai`	`I feel like a god right now`
`16:03.42`	`Ahli`	`hi dele, nice shoutout from khaldor :D how is your wife?`
`16:04.01`	`Gerd`	`Blizz-Deletarius: is it possible to use the map-links to set the next map to load on battle.net?`
`16:04.01`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`on twitter>?`
`16:04.12`	`Ahli`	`on gsl`
`16:04.14`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`not that I know of Gerd, sorry`
`16:04.18`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`oh?`
`16:04.21`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`which match?`
`16:04.24`	`Ahli`	`on cloud kingdom`
`16:04.30`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`know who was playing?`
`16:04.51`	`Ahli`	`no, but I don't think it was long after you tweeted`
`16:05.00`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`oh nice...`
`16:05.03`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`I'll check :)`
`16:05.15`	`Ahli`	`was in early phase... expansion were just finished`
`16:05.30`	`Ahli`	`if I remember it correctly`
`16:06.00`	`Zolden`	`paid hiv-positive hooker to seduce duckies`
`16:09.04`	`duckies`	`maps the ultimate map deep in his underground shelter ignoring all interferences from outside world, must stay vigilant and unconcerned with irrelevancies`
`16:10.28`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`16:10.33`	`nooblark`	`i changed it a little`
`16:10.57`	`nooblark`	`i like them close together a lot better`
`16:11.16`	`nooblark`	`letters kinda spread don't necessarily look awesome though`
`16:11.35`	`A1win`	`Blizz-Deletarius, is it possible to make an actor event to swap a model from variation X to variation Y? I tried using the Model Variation term but it didn't seem to work`
`16:12.11`	`Blizz-Deletarius`	`I believe it is possible, but I'm not exactly sure which actor message it is`
`16:12.47`	`A1win`	`the Model Swap allows setting a variation, and changing to a variation worked fine, just didn't manage to check the variation it was currently in`
`16:14.27`	`A1win`	`also if the variation isn't defined, it keeps the current variation... but I need to swap it to a different variation than what it currently has`
`16:14.53`	`A1win`	`two models with 3 variations, and I need them to swap between 1 <-> 3, 2 <-> 2, and 3 <-> 1`
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`16:15.30`	`twodie`	`hey Zolden`
`16:15.31`	`twodie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN-umQ6gnHo`
`16:15.40`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`16:15.50`	`nooblark`	`i think that one might be the final, does anyone want to comment? :(`
`16:16.27`	`Zolden`	`twodie: wow, cool`
`16:16.38`	`twodie`	`http://www.youtube.com/user/IncrediblyHotWomen`
`16:16.42`	`twodie`	`this even better :O`
`16:17.03`	`nooblark`	`twodie that is sween`
`16:17.13`	`nooblark`	`the ribbon thing.`
`16:17.19`	`twodie`	`yeah`
`16:17.34`	`twodie`	`but gpu heavy stuff i think`
`16:18.03`	`nooblark`	`what do you guys think of my game icon? :o`
`16:18.14`	`nooblark`	`i want it to be unique and eye catching`
`16:19.31`	`A1win`	`it isn't very coherent, different parts of the image don't seem to belong to the same image`
`16:20.21`	`A1win`	`the characters don't have shadows, for one`
`16:20.21`	`Zolden`	`ok, nooblark, if you're so persistent in seeking for some opinions, i'll share mineL it suck`
`16:20.30`	`A1win`	`so they look like they are just planted over the background`
`16:21.07`	`nooblark`	`lol, so that's how it goes around here?`
`16:21.20`	`nooblark`	`people don't say anything when someone asks for an opinion, if it's negative..`
`16:21.28`	`nooblark`	`no wonder there are so many horrible maps published`
`16:21.41`	`A1win`	`the characters have too much detail in them compared to the background`
`16:21.55`	`nooblark`	`a1win, ever watch a cartoon?`
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`16:22.16`	`Zolden`	`nooblark: it's not jsut cartoonish, it's childish and rough`
`16:22.27`	`nooblark`	`mmmm`
`16:22.33`	`A1win`	`nooblark, yeah, and some of them are badly drawn, having the same issues`
`16:22.46`	`A1win`	`in good cartoons, the characters fit to tbe background`
`16:22.50`	`nooblark`	`all cartoons are childish..`
`16:23.01`	`nooblark`	`but i can see how they don't necessarily blend,`
`16:23.02`	`A1win`	`*the`
`16:23.58`	`Zolden`	`nooblark: ok, it's not just childish, it look like it was made for retarded children, its style says: hey, this image is suck`
`16:24.13`	`A1win`	`what defines which units are selected with the "Army Selection" button?`
`16:24.26`	`nooblark`	`zolden, i love how much critisim you bring with your comments`
`16:24.54`	`Zolden`	`nooblark: yea, i like to criticize`
`16:25.19`	`A1win`	`oh, the Army Select flag :x`
`16:34.04`	`hobbidude`	`hey is deletarius around?`
`16:34.32`	`Ahli`	`A1win: the answer is here http://www.staredit.net/topic/15810/unread/#special`
`16:34.50`	`Ahli`	`it's more than just the flag ;)`
`16:35.20`	`A1win`	`ah`
`16:38.43`	`Ahli`	`how do I use text fields for real number definitions ingame, properly?`
`16:39.41`	`A1win`	`what do you mean?`
`16:40.00`	`Ahli`	`when the text was changed, I verify its format and write the verified format into the field... this creates constant load as it runs itself`
`16:40.29`	`Ahli`	`I run into the problem again that I can't alter values without throwing the event :S`
`16:40.46`	`A1win`	`disable the event while you modify it`
`16:41.00`	`A1win`	`actually that won't help`
`16:41.13`	`A1win`	`would have to disable it for a time`
`16:41.15`	`A1win`	`I tink`
`16:41.28`	`Ahli`	`maybe when I dsiable it, alter the value, enabled it?`
`16:41.52`	`A1win`	`yeah that's what I meant, it might work...`
`16:44.32`	`Ahli`	`didnt work`
`16:45.23`	`A1win`	`mm it needs to be disabled during the next game frame too`
`16:45.48`	`A1win`	`but that would be too hacky :X`
`16:46.04`	`A1win`	`why do you have an event like that?`
`16:46.58`	`nooblark`	`is there something to detect game variant to do triggers differently?`
`16:47.33`	`A1win`	`you can make a hidden game attribute that changes based on variant`
`16:47.43`	`A1win`	`and detect that instead`
`16:48.16`	`nooblark`	`mmk`
`16:49.24`	`Ahli`	`the debugger shows 4 threads... for 2 of those it doesn't even display a waiting time that they should use... o0`
`16:50.04`	`Ahli`	`so disabling has 0 effect`
`16:50.12`	`Ahli`	`waiting makes it worse as more threads are created`
`16:50.39`	`Ahli`	`how the heck are we supposed to use those? only read values when you click on a button?`
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`16:51.38`	`nooblark`	`jade!!`
`16:51.41`	`nooblark`	`<3`
`16:51.47`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`16:51.59`	`nooblark`	`i finished my icon`
`16:52.04`	`nooblark`	`no one likes it but me. lol`
`16:52.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`16:52.17`	`Ahli`	`jade, how do I need to use text fields in dialogs to use them to alter real values?`
`16:52.20`	`nooblark`	`https://www.dropbox.com/s/ckt1me3j6lrbbyi/Icon%20copy.jpg?m`
`16:52.27`	`Zolden`	`JademusSreg: prepare "suck" word if you going to express your opinion`
`16:52.40`	`nooblark`	`ahli, set a variable to text`
`16:52.48`	`nooblark`	`and use the variable as the text displayed`
`16:53.13`	`nooblark`	`nvermind, i misunderstoof wat youwere saying`
`16:53.18`	`Ahli`	`I have a problem with input validation. It creates constantly 4 threads that block the whole thing from being changed`
`16:53.21`	`JademusSreg`	`noobl, it looks adorable, but misleading. Like it's the Hydralisk Kidz Swarm.`
`16:53.51`	`nooblark`	`i don't get that reference, lol`
`16:54.11`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, text fields as in user input text?`
`16:54.41`	`Ahli`	`yes`
`16:55.01`	`A1win`	`JademusSreg, did I ask you about the model swap variation thing? I need to swap an actor's model from variation X to variation Y.. so far I've only managed to swap to Y, but Model Variation term doesn't seem to work`
`16:55.06`	`Ahli`	`the user should be able to read and alter scale values of a unit`
`16:55.12`	`JademusSreg`	`const int c_triggerControlPropertyEditText = 21; // string`
`16:55.31`	`JademusSreg`	`You get the string property Edit Text (misleadingly, it's not textr type).`
`16:56.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Then convert string to fixed.`
`16:56.14`	`Ahli`	`there is a function to just get the edit text, that's not the problem`
`16:57.14`	`Ahli`	`value changed -> event -> read value -> force it to be interpretable as a real value -> set value -> value changed`
`16:57.49`	`nooblark`	`my intention of it isn't to give a representation of the game, rather catch someone's eyes to draw them into checking the game out. if someone joins based on the icon only, ignoring the name and description, i feel as though they deserve an experience completly different (not necessarily negative or positive) than they expected`
`16:58.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Don't update the string?`
`16:58.20`	`JademusSreg`	`If someone puts garbage in there, just assume 0,0,0,0`
`16:58.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Haha`
`16:58.41`	`JademusSreg`	`Sorry, I was thinking about colors.`
`16:59.03`	`JademusSreg`	`But yeah, don't bother to push back valid results.`
`17:00.07`	`JademusSreg`	`Also, I wonder if you can disable the trigger before changing and reenabling it after the call.`
`17:00.22`	`JademusSreg`	`That may prevent itself from triggering itself.`
`17:00.47`	`A1win`	`it needs to be disabled during the next script engine frame or something`
`17:00.55`	`A1win`	`he just tried that`
`17:01.16`	`A1win`	`and that would cause other issues`
`17:01.24`	`A1win`	`potentiallyu`
`17:02.25`	`Ahli`	`it doesn't prevent that`
`17:02.43`	`JademusSreg`	`A1, Colony Infestation actor has an example of model swapping done well, iirc.`
`17:03.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Erm, model variants via actor event messages.`
`17:03.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Whichever.`
`17:04.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli that's interesting. But perhaps you shouldn't reset the value from the trigger.`
`17:05.22`	`JademusSreg`	`And infinite loops would be prevented if you compare the current value to the candidate value before setting the value.`
`17:05.42`	`JademusSreg`	`Then at the very most you have one extra trigger fire.`
`17:05.56`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`17:06.00`	`A1win`	`colony infestation just seems to create the colony infestation actor on the unit`
`17:08.07`	`Ahli`	`what I had in mind wouldn't work online anyway`
`17:08.20`	`Ahli`	`because of the delay of the triggers.`
`17:32.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Backish.`
`17:35.38`	`A1win`	`I taught my ships a new trick... they now know how to die`
`17:35.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Yay.`
`17:51.53`	`evily`	`where can i change the damage of a weapon?`
`17:52.05`	`JademusSreg`	`The weapon's damage effect.`
`17:54.05`	`evily`	`okay. thanks`
`17:57.27`	`A1win`	`can I somehow hide the info panel health display of a unit while it's invulnerable using a behavior? :E`
`17:58.17`	`A1win`	`I wonder what Suppress Life does...`
`17:58.45`	`A1win`	`nothing useful`
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`18:13.31`	`G0A`	`hmm anybody had trouble with science vessel nano repair before? Its impact actor sometimes dont destroy itself:(`
`18:13.51`	`G0A`	`even though I didnt change anything on it`
`18:13.58`	`hobbidude`	`hey jade`
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`18:21.03`	`Ahli`	`if I create a new actor, the token won't work anymore -.-`
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`18:25.42`	`JademusSreg`	`You are deep in a labyrinth, known in legend only as "Data". Through each of its baroque, ominously vaulted corridors extend lines. The archways of these corridors bear cryptic words, labels which help you navigate the sprawling eldritch design of its impossibly manifold spaces. Step by step, you follow the lines guiding you through the fathomless reaches of its mouldering stone, its edifice`
`18:25.42`	`JademusSreg`	`burdened by inscrutable glyphs and formulae. Your mind ever-labouring to tease from its alien configuration an intelligible message, you construct from this sinister whispering architecture a vivid delusion of a game played with stars and blood. And in the hoary passage of aeons, you come to realize this ceaseless expanse of maddening halls was not merely a cosmic torment afflicted on you,`
`18:25.42`	`JademusSreg`	`but that in the course of your pathological fantasy you conjured new space and structure, that its every stone is hewn from the deranged imagination of those compelled and so condemned to seek an understanding of its infinite puzzle and the process of their own inexorable march into damnation.`
`18:25.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is to say, if you want to find a value (for example, a weapon's damage) follow the sequence of links.`
`18:29.19`	`JademusSreg`	`In case the message was clipped: http://pastebin.com/kcNL5pkE`
`18:30.44`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, after you set the token, right click the fields modified by the token expression and Reset Field To Default.`
`18:31.03`	`JademusSreg`	`The editor can be dumb about how it handles tokens.`
`18:31.20`	`hobbidude`	`can upgrades be removed so that the changed are reverted?`
`18:32.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes*, research/upgrades can be modified, but I'm not aware if that modifies the bonuses it confers.`
`18:32.21`	`Ahli`	`well, that defeats the point of tokens :S`
`18:32.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Naw, Ahli, reset makes the tokens work.`
`18:32.37`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll explain.`
`18:32.49`	`Ahli`	`stupid editor users need to know how to reset then`
`18:32.56`	`Ahli`	`I add tokens to make it easier`
`18:33.17`	`Ahli`	`else you only need to alter the unit in 3 events`
`18:33.21`	`hobbidude`	`kk then on a seperate note what effect would i use to change a units rotation or facing angle?`
`18:34.19`	`JademusSreg`	`When you make the new actor, the token value is a null, so the token expressions are similarly null. You update the token and the expressions don't reliably update, because the editor is simply dumb. If you reset the field, either before or after setting the token s it makes no difference, the token expressions will work properly.`
`18:35.06`	`JademusSreg`	`hobb, sounds like something a buff could do. I don't often need to adjust facing with data, so I'm not certain.`
`18:38.00`	`G0A`	`duckies I am getting closer again:) now NSS is 4th.`
`18:38.43`	`JademusSreg`	`Woo.`
`18:39.28`	`duckies`	`=D`
`18:39.37`	`Zolden`	`G0A: push the motherfuckers!!!`
`18:40.39`	`Zolden`	`changes Planck's constant for duckies' universe and it collapses`
`18:40.59`	`JademusSreg`	`How much of my lovecraftian description of data actually made it intact? My client shows me the entire message, but it was long and I expect clipping may have occured.`
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`18:42.10`	`A1win`	`if you mean the earlier thing, it was split on multiple lines`
`18:42.29`	`JademusSreg`	`So long as it all arrived, I suppose that's acceptable.`
`18:42.49`	`evily`	`do anyone know a good tutorial with lobby --> in-game teams and placement. I just cant seem to get it right.`
`18:43.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Get the playergroups corresponding to the lobby teams via game attribute functions?`
`18:43.51`	`evily`	`okay. i will try`
`18:45.24`	`evily`	`how does that actually work tho?`
`18:45.46`	`JademusSreg`	`native playergroup GameAttributePlayersForTeam (int team);`
`18:46.10`	`JademusSreg`	`You give it an integer, it gives you the playergroup corresponding to that team.`
`18:47.23`	`evily`	`i am really only familiar with the trigger editor. would i have to pick the Pick player in team function?`
`18:48.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Galaxy script and GUI are as capable as one another, so if I post a galaxy native, that just indicates there is a corresponding GUI solution.`
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`18:48.44`	`evily`	`cool.`
`18:49.09`	`JademusSreg`	`And depending on what you want to do with the playergroup, you may or may not need to use a pick each loop.`
`18:49.32`	`evily`	`i just want the lobby teams to reflect the in-game teams but they dont atm`
`18:49.51`	`evily`	`or rather convert the lobby teams to the in-game teams.. my map has 4`
`18:50.02`	`JademusSreg`	`(For instance, a lot of users initially use Pick Each to add players from teams to a playergroup, but that's silly because the function already returns a playergroup.)`
`18:50.43`	`evily`	`right`
`18:51.43`	`evily`	`so is a group actually created, that contains the players as they were in the lobby?`
`18:51.54`	`JademusSreg`	`In that case, GUI has a utility function for setting the alliance state of an entire playergroup.`
`18:52.16`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes, the function returns a playergroup.`
`18:52.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Not necessarily an allied playergroup.`
`18:52.57`	`evily`	`this is so confusing`
`18:53.14`	`JademusSreg`	`So for each team, you'll set its alliance state with itself as friendly or allied or whatever, and set the alliance state with the other teams to enemy (assuming that is your intention).`
`18:53.30`	`evily`	`well thats the intention basically.`
`18:53.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Yes. And that is how one goes about it.`
`18:54.19`	`evily`	`do you know what the action is called in the trigger editor?`
`18:55.23`	`JademusSreg`	`I'll write a shorthand in GUI-jargon for ya. One moment.`
`18:56.39`	`evily`	`wait. the problem is that in the lobby i have 4 teams. but if i put someone in team 4 and myself on team 1, we still end up on the same team.`
`18:56.52`	`evily`	`i need that guy who is in team 4 in the lobby to be in team 4 in-game`
`18:58.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Team is an abstraction that is only meaningful in the lobby; the game has alliances between players, but teams are not a distinct entity.`
`18:59.22`	`A1win`	`hmm... I wonder what kind of effect to display when the player's own ship performs a warp jump`
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`19:02.25`	`mille25`	`hi`
`19:03.58`	`Zolden`	`hui`
`19:05.32`	`evily`	`JademusSreg i see.`
`19:06.07`	`evily`	`i still dont understand how i can make players, whom the lobby gives the impression is on same team, actually be allied in-game`
`19:06.22`	`A1win`	`using the Set Alliance triggers`
`19:06.30`	`A1win`	`*trigger actions`
`19:07.23`	`evily`	`am i correct in assuming that Team 1 in lobby, becomes player group 1 ?`
`19:07.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Basically, bool lookingForTeams=true; int teamIndex=0; playergroup tempTeam=null; while (lookingForTeams) { tempTeam=PlayersOnTeam(teamIndex); if (tempTeam != null) { PlayerGroupSetAllianceState(tempTeam,ActivePlayerGroup(),HateYouGuysForReal); PlayerGroupSetAllianceState(tempTeam,tempTeam,FriendsWithSexyTimes); } else { lookingForTeams=false; } teamIndex+=1; }`
`19:07.52`	`A1win`	`what is this "player group 1"?`
`19:07.58`	`JademusSreg`	`Which is to say make a loop to iterate through the team indexes until it arrives at a null playergroup.`
`19:08.01`	`evily`	`idk`
`19:08.18`	`A1win`	`you can get the players of a team in the lobby with "Players In Team" player group function`
`19:09.53`	`A1win`	`whee now the ship list behaves smartly when the selected ship jump away, and ships that jump away are kept on the list for 3 seconds with 50% transparency and their stats hidden, before they disappear from the list`
`19:10.10`	`JademusSreg`	`Nice.`
`19:11.09`	`A1win`	`the only bad looking case is when the player's current ship jumps to the next encounter, the list just suddenly becomes populated by ships in that encounter, and there is no effect of any kind to indicate that the ship jumped :x`
`19:12.34`	`A1win`	`hmm maybe a fade in effect on the list for all ships`
`19:19.53`	`hobbidude`	`oh hey jade any experence in reflecting/redirecting projectiles?`
`19:20.33`	`JademusSreg`	`It is easiest with trigger-guidance.`
`19:20.35`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`19:21.24`	`Kubi`	`MMMM HMM MM`
`19:21.29`	`Kubi`	`Wheres our blizzard buddies`
`19:22.08`	`hobbidude`	`they got enough work on their hands`
`19:22.15`	`Ahli`	`I assume that they are busy because of the countless problems we find in 2.0.4`
`19:22.54`	`hobbidude`	`lol have to seen the list; its like 5 lines of issue solves by 2.0.4 followed by 3 entire posts of things broken`
`19:22.56`	`Ahli`	`http://i.snag.gy/z7Y8n.jpg look at my interface :D`
`19:23.21`	`hobbidude`	`nice`
`19:23.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Anyway, I imagine it could be done with data, especially with collider missiles since throw missiles are most reliable when it comes to just moving forevah.`
`19:23.37`	`Ahli`	`was just a test to make sure that I can use interfaces :D`
`19:25.08`	`JademusSreg`	`The trouble is you effectively need to relaunch the projectile to reliably redirect it.`
`19:25.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Either that, or hilariously make it morph into a missile with a mover providing a different forward vector?`
`19:25.48`	`JademusSreg`	`Which just sounds ugly as hell.`
`19:26.40`	`hobbidude`	`ya the only things i can things of would be to launch another missile from the unit reflecting along the lines to the previous impact point`
`19:26.58`	`hobbidude`	`that angle would be ugly tho`
`19:28.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Yeah, if you make the missile launch itself (Set > {Launch Missile, Suicide}) when affected by a redirecting influence, it should work.`
`19:28.27`	`JademusSreg`	`Communicating the angles would be more difficult.`
`19:28.34`	`hobbidude`	`ya thats where im stuck`
`19:28.42`	`hobbidude`	`sucks theres no arithmetic function`
`19:28.49`	`JademusSreg`	`Thus, a trigger-based guidance system is most effective.`
`19:28.59`	`JademusSreg`	`Aphotic would tell you the same, haha.`
`19:29.05`	`hobbidude`	`no lag issues?`
`19:29.33`	`hobbidude`	`hmmm seems i need to brainstorm some more`
`19:29.34`	`JademusSreg`	`Lag is symptom of shitty methodology.`
`19:29.42`	`hobbidude`	`lmao true dat`
`19:30.15`	`JademusSreg`	`If your system is well designed, it shouldn't lag. =D`
`19:31.55`	`hobbidude`	`oh heres a weird one; if you run a search effect with say 5 units in the area does the effect always choose the same unit or is it random?`
`19:32.00`	`JademusSreg`	`There's also the question of up to what speeds you would support with your system. Radial collision detection can't handle speeds exceeding 16 times the diameter of the detection area without huge precision problems.`
`19:32.21`	`JademusSreg`	`hobb, I would expect that to depend on the target sort.`
`19:32.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Target: Target Sorts`
`19:32.40`	`hobbidude`	`kk ty`
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`19:46.12`	`Ahli`	`https://dl.dropbox.com/u/4479839/MouseHitZone%20Demonstration%20Map.SC2Map finished what I was working on`
`19:47.47`	`JademusSreg`	`The area covered by a collider with radius 0.5 is 0.78539816339744830962 cell^2, the precision error rate for a collider radius 0.5 speed 16 is 0.21460183660255169038 cell^2 per tick.`
`19:48.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Not that it's relevant, I just hadn't bothered to worked out the precision error rate before.`
`19:49.40`	`JademusSreg`	`Interesting that by the 5th tick the precision error exceeds 1 cell^2.`
`19:51.52`	`JademusSreg`	`tests the demo.`
`19:54.28`	`JademusSreg`	`Useful.`
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`20:06.44`	`ckSynergy`	`http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8850/windows8plus.jpg`
`20:07.02`	`JademusSreg`	`Gross.`
`20:07.03`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`20:07.09`	`ckSynergy`	`lol`
`20:09.28`	`A1win`	`woohoo, took a while to get these fade in/out timers of the list to not overlap with each other :x`
`20:09.41`	`A1win`	`there is not function to reset a timer to 0 without triggering Timer Expired event`
`20:09.54`	`A1win`	`so I faked it with pause and added a secondary condition for it x\`
`20:10.16`	`A1win`	`err, actually it won't matter anymore that it triggers the event since I did all this`
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`20:16.33`	`Zolden`	`changes letters in duckies' nickname, so now it's dickseu`
`20:19.22`	`DickseuTheDick`	`hmm`
`20:19.27`	`DickseuTheDick`	`I'm not sure if I like it`
`20:19.28`	`DickseuTheDick`	`:s`
`20:19.45`	`Zolden`	`sues duckies for stealing the idea`
`20:20.48`	`ZoldenIsADickseu`	`there, an appropariate mature response for you :D`
`20:21.10`	`Zolden`	`sues duckies for slander`
`20:22.10`	`wildlife`	`evades suing and throws a goldfish at zolden`
`20:22.54`	`Zolden`	`sues duckies for armed assault`
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`20:25.41`	`wildlife`	`crashes worlds political,financial and justice systems. complete takeover.`
`20:26.03`	`wildlife`	`throws a crab at zolden`
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`20:28.16`	`Zolden`	`hires advanced aliens to rapidly recreate civilization from the ashes adn sues duckies for ruining world political, finansical and justice systems which caused death of 3.7 billion peoples`
`20:30.59`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I'd say that's worth it if he destroyed the political system`
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`20:31.59`	`evily`	`wait, did aliens give us civilisation?`
`20:32.15`	`Zolden`	`shawn r u anarchist?`
`20:32.25`	`evily`	`i am`
`20:32.29`	`Zolden`	`evily: they recreated it back`
`20:32.46`	`evily`	`but we have somewhat civilisation now. where is come from`
`20:32.54`	`evily`	`an aliens`
`20:32.56`	`evily`	`?`
`20:33.18`	`Zolden`	`it required thousands robocops and robopresidents, but people of earth will replace them in a hundred years`
`20:33.20`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I'm at the very least anti-federalist`
`20:33.38`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`At the most anarcho-capitalist`
`20:33.39`	`evily`	`statism sucks`
`20:33.42`	`Zolden`	`evily: it was a result of self-organization`
`20:33.53`	`evily`	`nice`
`20:34.42`	`Zolden`	`Shawn\|Rawr: what is the difference between traditional capitalism and anarcho-capitalism?`
`20:34.53`	`evily`	`i know. i know.`
`20:35.09`	`Zolden`	`evily: yes, plaease, your version`
`20:35.16`	`evily`	`violence`
`20:35.26`	`Kubi`	`ZOLDEN SUCKS ON PIG NIPPLES`
`20:35.31`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`One is specific to preferring anarchy over any kind of rule`
`20:35.49`	`Zolden`	`yes, i can imagine corporations own armies and fight`
`20:36.53`	`evily`	`capitalists typically believe force is necessary in order to have a "justice" system.`
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`20:37.53`	`Zolden`	`Shawn\|Rawr: private property violation prohibition is the rule which allows capitalism to exist, I hope your model doesn't destroy this rule`
`20:38.28`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Property rights is the highest priority in a free society`
`20:38.34`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`lol`
`20:38.46`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Well, nonviolence to be more broad`
`20:38.51`	`evily`	`yes excactly`
`20:39.10`	`Zolden`	`evily: yes, most of population is wild animals, only the fear of the law and prison keeps em in civilized condition`
`20:39.12`	`evily`	`capitalists typically support the use violence`
`20:39.37`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I don't think capitalism is what you think it is evily`
`20:39.41`	`Zolden`	`so, like you can't take someone's wallet, but you kill him`
`20:39.58`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Killing is a violation of property rights`
`20:40.11`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Since his body is his own property and you are violating it`
`20:40.14`	`Zolden`	`is raping violation of property rights?`
`20:40.18`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Yes`
`20:40.20`	`evily`	`yes. will taxation exist in a capitalist system?`
`20:40.32`	`Zolden`	`it's gay, i don't like anarcho capitalism then`
`20:40.45`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Capitalism is an economic model, not a political one`
`20:41.02`	`evily`	`what is a capitalist society then`
`20:41.21`	`Zolden`	`self oranization created tax xystem, it's natural, and everything natural will exist in pure wild capitalism`
`20:41.26`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`One that is supposed to value free trade without government intervention`
`20:41.31`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`basically`
`20:41.57`	`evily`	`sounds about right. but i think you will find alot of capitalist will support taxation`
`20:42.12`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`True zolden, but the fact the federal govt has rule over the taxes ensures that a lot of it goes to waste and that the people have little control over what the money is spent on`
`20:42.50`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I'd suggest moving more towards the original US constitution's layout of having a very limited federal govt and a more empoyered state and local govt`
`20:42.55`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`as a start`
`20:44.23`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Well, i still disagree that taxes are natural as its theft, but thats a different argument entirely`
`20:44.36`	`Zolden`	`how to implement it in real life shawn? does it require revolution?`
`20:45.36`	`evily`	`theft is just wrong`
`20:45.43`	`evily`	`brb`
`20:45.54`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Implement what exactly? I've said a lot of shit`
`20:45.56`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`^_^`
`20:46.13`	`Zolden`	`Shawn\|Rawr: yes, social systems without taxes are possible, but it's a question - will they successfully compete with the societies which have tax system`
`20:47.53`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Its hard to know since we have not much in history to point to as an example. Any answer would just be theoretical. My theory is that anything worth having in society can be provided by private entities better and cheaper.`
`20:51.10`	`Zolden`	`this is true, and thus this is jsut a question of time and slow evolution of modern conservative social systems towards delegating some goverment functions to the private entities`
`20:51.23`	`Zolden`	`example - space ships industry`
`20:51.38`	`Zolden`	`goverment used to work on this, now capitalists took control`
`20:52.42`	`Zolden`	`I hope america won't fall into chaos and show the world how it's done`
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`20:54.09`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Well zolden its more up to the states to show the feds they are sick of their crap imo.`
`20:54.40`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`Like how states have legalized marijuana in spite of federal laws`
`20:55.10`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`And some states have started to nullify the obama healthcare laws`
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`20:56.01`	`JademusSreg`	`One observes that for any collection of reactive entities, relationships develop, however brief. Phenomenologically, those relationships which are observed with any consistency are lifted via abstraction from the chaotic morass of events into the warm apprehension of objects, the recognition of the relationship itself allowing us to think of transient states as Things, and in turn those`
`20:56.01`	`JademusSreg`	`Things are our conceptual tools for modeling and making predictions about other Things.`
`20:57.26`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I'll never understand your ramblings Jade.`
`20:57.33`	`JademusSreg`	`But the relationships, the complex systems which emerge from the interaction of simple elements, are there regardless. And our apprehension of these phenomenon do not give us power over them, but rather comfort us in our certainty of our own understanding.`
`20:57.35`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`But <3 anyway`
`20:58.38`	`Repo`	`New asset: Modern Warfare Models - http://www.sc2mapster.com/assets/modern-warfare-models/`
`21:01.31`	`JademusSreg`	`Whether it's subatomic elements interacting to form an atomic system or machine components making up a machine or living creatures' relationships forming an ecosystem or humans giving rise to social structures, culture, and political entities, the emergence of such systems is simply the phenomena of their relationships extended over time.`
`21:03.07`	`JademusSreg`	`So when people void their opinions about government, politics, economy, culture, or whatever as a llama would its bowels, I feel there is a lack of appreciation for the scale and complexity of the systems of which those speaking are only a minute, near-insignificant piece.`
`21:03.26`	`JademusSreg`	`=D`
`21:03.47`	`JademusSreg`	`Someone ported COD assets to m3? Haha`
`21:04.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`dammit... now I have to call someone a fag`
`21:04.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`21:04.33`	`JademusSreg`	`http://youtu.be/32K0nq0u0f0`
`21:04.34`	`JademusSreg`	`<3`
`21:06.21`	`Shawn\|Rawr`	`I'll continue to void my bowel politics all over the place because I refuse to accept the current state of things.`
`21:06.36`	`JademusSreg`	`Das goot. =D`
`21:07.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Though it's goot++ to organize those who feel similarly to actively change shit.`
`21:10.56`	`A1win`	`geeh, refactored the whole list UI to use Panels so that I can properly keep the fade effects even when the ship moves to a different slot on the list`
`21:11.06`	`A1win`	`why didn't I do that from the start :[`
`21:11.45`	`A1win`	`now it's awesome though :x`
`21:12.15`	`A1win`	`though I wonder if I should keep the hotkeys specific to each ship, or specific to each list index`
`21:13.05`	`JademusSreg`	`Yep. =D`
`21:13.39`	`JademusSreg`	`It seems panels are mostly unknown, but indispensably useful.`
`21:13.54`	`A1win`	`err, Army Select doesn't select units if they are outside minimap bounds... it still tries to move the camera though >_>`
`21:14.04`	`JademusSreg`	`That's interesting.`
`21:14.29`	`JademusSreg`	`Army select is one of the new features, yes?`
`21:14.33`	`A1win`	`yeah`
`21:14.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`OBAMA IS THE DEVIL!!!!`
`21:14.44`	`Taintedwisp`	`fucking kenyan turd`
`21:14.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`21:14.55`	`A1win`	`selects all units that are marked with Army Select flag and have Army as tech cost or something like that`
`21:15.00`	`Taintedwisp`	`and no... bush was the devil too :P`
`21:15.01`	`A1win`	`meh I'll just remove it then`
`21:15.21`	`JademusSreg`	`Remove the button? Will the hotkey still work, though`
`21:15.22`	`JademusSreg`	`?`
`21:15.31`	`A1win`	`nope`
`21:15.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail\|gone, you really gone?`
`21:15.33`	`JademusSreg`	`Goot.`
`21:15.35`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`21:15.42`	`A1win`	`hotkeys don't work for anything that isn't visible on the UI`
`21:15.46`	`Vail`	`sorry im here`
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`21:16.02`	`A1win`	`(assuming it's visible on the UI at all)`
`21:16.23`	`Vail`	`im having trouble getting the geysers to only form on the same cliff level`
`21:18.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`:))`
`21:19.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vaildator vail`
`21:19.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`you can check cliff level`
`21:19.20`	`JademusSreg`	`Vaildator. Niiice.`
`21:19.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`make it so 1 or 2 cliff level only`
`21:20.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`I have a CRAZY new system to add in, which I dont know how I am going to do :P`
`21:20.34`	`Taintedwisp`	`Who am I kidding... I totally know how to do it :P`
`21:22.02`	`twodie`	`but LAAAAAAAAAAAZZZZZZZZZZZZYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY`
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`21:22.38`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`21:22.44`	`twodie`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSQF8UIolOw`
`21:22.54`	`JademusSreg`	`Vailidator sounds better.`
`21:24.38`	`Vail`	`i kniw tainted its just fining the right values`
`21:26.03`	`Taintedwisp`	`AHHH`
`21:26.16`	`A1win`	`idle worker selection has the same problem, doesn't select the unit if the unit is outside camera bounds, but tries to move the camera`
`21:26.21`	`Taintedwisp`	`Probably 0 and 1, -1 being down`
`21:27.14`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`21:27.23`	`Ahli`	`guys, go online and only move the mouse in a circle all the time`
`21:27.30`	`Ahli`	`the whole screen freezes while you do that`
`21:27.34`	`Ahli`	`fine bnet... fine`
`21:27.44`	`twodie`	`tooo late`
`21:27.58`	`Ahli`	`*in bnet main menu after login`
`21:29.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`Why were you moving the mouse in a circle?`
`21:29.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`21:31.30`	`Ahli`	`I just moved it around and noticed that moving it caused low FPS`
`21:31.53`	`Taintedwisp`	`lawl`
`21:32.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`Ahli tried to infiltrate and sabotage battle.net...`
`21:32.11`	`Taintedwisp`	`you SOB!!!`
`21:32.30`	`Ahli`	`No, I only found 3 performance eaters, yet`
`21:32.50`	`Ahli`	`keep mouse moving, big members window with mouse on it... why did I say 3?`
`21:35.05`	`Taintedwisp`	`because your an attention whore`
`21:35.06`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`21:38.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`NET_Creator, you cant change your nick... its not allowed :))`
`21:38.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`imma go play some GEM TD`
`21:44.36`	`Kubi`	`anyone know the actor event when a unit is selected?`
`21:53.14`	`Ahli`	`no, I'm just someone that notices that and reports that stuff`
`21:55.09`	`JademusSreg`	`Ahli, want to report the relative anchor bug? =D`
`21:55.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Actually, to be fair, I haven't tested it in 2.0.4, so it may be fixed.`
`21:55.33`	`JademusSreg`	`brb`
`21:57.16`	`Ahli`	`I don't use relative anchors and I don't intend to do it... so meh`
`21:57.33`	`Ahli`	`but I think they fixed that`
`21:58.14`	`Ahli`	`had a longer discussion about that with them here before they understood the problem :D`
`21:58.17`	`Ahli`	`or the picture`
`22:19.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`HES AN ASSHOLE!!!!`
`22:19.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail you get it to work on those cliffs?`
`22:20.16`	`Vail`	`it still appears on higher cliffs than the hero level`
`22:31.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`So?`
`22:32.15`	`Taintedwisp`	`as long as it doesnt go below the ground it should be fine`
`22:32.37`	`Taintedwisp`	`Theres no fog of war, that cliff is just ther efor looks pretty much :P`
`22:40.57`	`Zolden`	`guys, strange: i have a damage of spell kind. And looks like armor still decreases it. Is there another flag to make damage be not affected by armor`
`22:41.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`Zolden did you fix the ehero glow ?`
`22:41.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`22:42.14`	`Zolden`	`Taintedwisp: i'm lazy these days, but I swear, tomorrow it will be fixed like jesus problem was once fixed`
`22:42.32`	`Taintedwisp`	`you said something similar yestday :(`
`22:42.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha okay`
`22:42.40`	`Zolden`	`i didn't swear`
`22:43.01`	`Taintedwisp`	`you swear all the time,`
`22:43.09`	`Taintedwisp`	`Liek you said fuck earlier :P`
`22:43.10`	`Taintedwisp`	`haha`
`22:43.21`	`Vail`	`hah`
`22:44.41`	`JademusSreg`	`wields a fuckatana.`
`22:45.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`JADEMUS PUT YOUR MOTHERS DILDO DOWN THAT FUCKING GROSS`
`22:45.48`	`Vail`	`tainted i was wondering what if we gave each hero a fifth one level super ultimate ability?`
`22:46.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`I mean we could, but i have a minor problem with that.... I dont want heroes to end on lvl 19...`
`22:46.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`22:46.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`it could be 2 levels I guess, but I dont wanna design any of them`
`22:47.12`	`Vail`	`instead of being a learned ability it would be an unlocked ability costing i charge and given a charge through triggers say if they have enough kills or something`
`22:47.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`and they would need to be done pretty quickly. just because I wanna be able to continue to update the online beta`
`22:47.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`no triggers`
`22:47.33`	`Taintedwisp`	`I dont want any abilities going through triggers`
`22:47.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`Causes headaches for me if I ever need to alter anything`
`22:47.58`	`Vail`	`ok`
`22:48.08`	`Vail`	`then hm`
`22:48.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`you could give them a 1 level ability though if you want`
`22:48.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`Just dont put it on the learn`
`22:48.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`And give it to them when they start`
`22:48.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`these should all be pretty weak though`
`22:49.08`	`Taintedwisp`	`or you can give them an ability and just put a requirement for behavior level`
`22:49.19`	`Zolden`	`"no absobr shields" flag, that's why`
`22:49.20`	`Taintedwisp`	`then set he vetrency behavior level to 18`
`22:49.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`But I am going to be honest vail`
`22:49.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`So far no one has made it past lvl 9 with there heroes`
`22:49.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`so it would be useless`
`22:49.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`I have to do some more with the heroes experience`
`22:50.12`	`Vail`	`OH wait`
`22:50.19`	`Taintedwisp`	`I have a new system to make heroes useful, but thats about it`
`22:51.12`	`Zolden`	`oh fuck`
`22:51.37`	`Zolden`	`"armor reduction" - this field defines how much damage effect reduced by armor`
`22:51.57`	`Zolden`	`and who the fuck said to me what "spell" kind makes damage igonre armore`
`22:52.05`	`Zolden`	`how can I believe anyone anymore`
`22:54.30`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
`22:54.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Who said wat?`
`22:56.52`	`Cybrok`	`if anyone needs a hand with data or some triggers let me know, im bored lol`
`22:57.37`	`JademusSreg`	`You should ask Taint if he'd like some help; he's been recruiting for his project, iirc.`
`22:58.39`	`Cybrok`	`I used to be on the team lol, not anymore`
`22:59.24`	`JademusSreg`	`Why so?`
`22:59.36`	`A1win`	`I've been so focused on this ship list that I can't see the big picture anymore x_x`
`22:59.50`	`JademusSreg`	`A1, time to take a break.`
`22:59.57`	`nooblark`	`why are you not on his team?`
`22:59.59`	`nooblark`	`lol.`
`23:00.46`	`JademusSreg`	`Get some booze, play some pool, dance, ride a manatee, whatever.`
`23:01.14`	`nooblark`	`lol`
`23:01.20`	`nooblark`	`this chicken in dinnerbone's stream`
`23:01.22`	`nooblark`	`is so funny`
`23:02.18`	`nooblark`	`lolololol`
`23:02.31`	`nooblark`	`it's been doing it for lke an hour and it's still funny as hell`
`23:03.17`	`A1win`	`I wonder how I can teach this game to the scientist players... the mercenaries should be pretty easy, "go where there is trouble and shoot until there is no trouble"`
`23:05.55`	`A1win`	`hmm could put a "research what everyone else is researching" option for the tech consoles by default so even if they don't touch it, it's still doing something`
`23:06.23`	`A1win`	`and if everyone is in that option, research in some predetermined order`
`23:09.19`	`A1win`	`err... actually it makes more sense to only have one research at a time per player`
`23:09.38`	`A1win`	`then it makes more sense to have that research selection UI somewhere else than on the research consoles`
`23:10.56`	`A1win`	`:> awesome, I can make researches that boost the mercenaries, and researches that boost the scientists... if they research stuff that boosts the mercs, the mercs will be more efficient in reaching to stuff that boosts the scientists in return`
`23:13.29`	`A1win`	`notice how my break from implemention is spent by designing`
`23:14.09`	`A1win`	`maybe I'll watch some TV series`
`23:17.19`	`JademusSreg`	`bbl, groceries`
`23:17.47`	`Taintedwisp`	`NO YOU CANT`
`23:17.50`	`Taintedwisp`	`DONT LEAVE ME`
`23:17.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`I WILL BE ALL ALONE WITH CRAZY PEOPLE`
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`23:23.32`	`JademusSreg`	`Hah.`
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`23:24.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`lol`
`23:25.29`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail... so what you up to ? you get everything figure dout?`
`23:25.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`I have 2 notepad documents of ideas waiting for me to throw in`
`23:25.50`	`Bommes`	`pretty cool Ahli`
`23:26.30`	`Taintedwisp`	`thats muhammad Shaquile ahli to you bommes`
`23:27.16`	`Ahli`	`what? the thing I made or that I'm 6th on liquibet or that I'm first in liquibet about proleague with 13% lead of points? :D`
`23:28.25`	`Bommes`	`the mouse hitbox thing`
`23:28.30`	`Bommes`	`my chat was scrolled back`
`23:28.31`	`Bommes`	`4 hours`
`23:28.34`	`Bommes`	`so when i came back`
`23:28.37`	`Bommes`	`thats what i saw :D`
`23:28.45`	`Taintedwisp`	`hah`
`23:29.41`	`Taintedwisp`	`I think I am going to increase experience gained for heroes vail`
`23:30.50`	`JademusSreg`	`HAha`
`23:32.14`	`Taintedwisp`	`and I just figured it out... -_-`
`23:32.16`	`Taintedwisp`	`WOW`
`23:32.27`	`Taintedwisp`	`Vail its no wonder the heroes arent reaching max number haha`
`23:34.28`	`Taintedwisp`	`Finding a good balance is hard -__`
`23:34.59`	`sharf224`	`so I have a potentially silly trigger question...`
`23:35.18`	`Taintedwisp`	`?`
`23:35.22`	`Taintedwisp`	`whats the question`
`23:35.58`	`JademusSreg`	`A human lifting a V8 pickup truck is hard. Balance is merely complex and takes significant amounts of time.`
`23:36.35`	`Taintedwisp`	`.....`
`23:36.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`23:36.36`	`sharf224`	`using regions for hero selection, bring a selector there and create the hero unit, currently, I'm doing that by using unit variables to detect if it's in the region.`
`23:36.50`	`sharf224`	`then remove it, and create the hero unit`
`23:37.08`	`sharf224`	`but I don't want to do 6 triggers for each player (for the 6 heroes)`
`23:37.22`	`JademusSreg`	`is suddenly reminded of SC1 maps.`
`23:37.25`	`Taintedwisp`	`first you can use a playergroup so it affects all players`
`23:37.26`	`Taintedwisp`	`hah`
`23:37.50`	`sharf224`	`I was thinking that`
`23:38.00`	`sharf224`	`I miss sc1 triggers...lol`
`23:38.12`	`Taintedwisp`	`< not a triggerer though :P`
`23:38.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC16lIUzHJE`
`23:39.12`	`JademusSreg`	`That approach to selection is rather crude, but if that's how you'd like to do it, feel free to ask questions if you have any trouble. =D`
`23:39.29`	`sharf224`	`what's a better way?`
`23:39.33`	`sharf224`	`I'm open to suggestions`
`23:39.56`	`Taintedwisp`	`http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gC16lIUzHJE`
`23:39.57`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`23:40.42`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sharf you could just use a build ability in data :P`
`23:40.51`	`Taintedwisp`	`And put it on a building with a count of 1`
`23:40.55`	`Taintedwisp`	`so only 1 player can pick it`
`23:41.02`	`sharf224`	`I was thinking that too`
`23:41.18`	`sharf224`	`but I need to keep track of it, store it in a unit variable`
`23:41.27`	`JademusSreg`	`http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-8QZjbESaawE/TxGdn2qrqUI/AAAAAAAAAaE/KQt_qiwqz84/s1600/Snarf.jpg`
`23:41.37`	`sharf224`	`I can detect when it is created and toss it in a variable right?`
`23:41.52`	`sharf224`	`lol*`
`23:41.52`	`sharf224`	`I get that a lot ol`
`23:43.07`	`Taintedwisp`	`yeah..`
`23:43.31`	`Taintedwisp`	`just use unit enters region(entire map) then condition unit filter == Heroic.`
`23:43.33`	`sharf224`	`I would need to detect which unit which player had add it to variables`
`23:44.11`	`nooblark`	`sharf, what are you trying to do?`
`23:44.22`	`sharf224`	`lol alright let me give some background`
`23:44.43`	`sharf224`	`6 players max, 6 choosable heroes, only 1 player can choose each hero`
`23:45.08`	`nooblark`	`dialog, or physically choose via a unit on a beacon?`
`23:45.13`	`sharf224`	`currently they spawn by using a unit moving to a region to select it because that is how I knew how to store units in variables`
`23:45.16`	`sharf224`	`unit on a beacon`
`23:45.28`	`sharf224`	`the reason I need the units in the variables is because I am using spawning pads`
`23:45.34`	`nooblark`	`ok so do this`
`23:45.49`	`nooblark`	`have 6 variables (or an array of 6) type boolean`
`23:45.59`	`nooblark`	`heropicked == true \|\| false`
`23:46.09`	`nooblark`	`set initially to false`
`23:46.22`	`nooblark`	`after hero is picked, set heroPicked == true`
`23:46.42`	`nooblark`	`and one of the conditions of player brings unit to the region is heroPicked != true`
`23:46.48`	`sharf224`	`right I have that`
`23:46.53`	`nooblark`	`mmk..`
`23:47.02`	`nooblark`	`what else are you looking to do?`
`23:47.02`	`sharf224`	`the issue is that right now`
`23:47.11`	`sharf224`	`I have to make 6 triggers for all 6 players`
`23:47.19`	`nooblark`	`use owner of unit`
`23:47.19`	`sharf224`	`and I kind of wanted to trim that down to 6`
`23:47.33`	`nooblark`	`what's the event of your trigger?`
`23:47.51`	`sharf224`	`alright here's what I've got`
`23:48.00`	`sharf224`	`1 trigger makes a selector unit, tosses it in a unit variable`
`23:48.13`	`sharf224`	`if that unit variable is in region, select hero etc.`
`23:48.18`	`sharf224`	`the event is every 0.25 game second`
`23:48.24`	`Taintedwisp`	`Sharf... http://pastebin.com/`
`23:48.36`	`Taintedwisp`	`Highlight your trigger, copy as text`
`23:48.38`	`Taintedwisp`	`paste in ther`
`23:48.39`	`Taintedwisp`	`:P`
`23:48.41`	`sharf224`	`but tht's the easy way lol`
`23:50.28`	`sharf224`	`wait can I copy as text without copying each condition/action`
`23:50.41`	`nooblark`	`you can highlight the whole thing`
`23:51.06`	`sharf224`	`that's what I was looking for`
`23:51.15`	`sharf224`	`sorry lol still not used to this editor`
`23:51.35`	`nooblark`	`highlight the very first thing (the name) then scroll to bottom of that and holding shift, click the last thing`
`23:52.03`	`nooblark`	`it should select the whole thing, then right click copy as text`
`23:52.27`	`sharf224`	`http://pastebin.com/0vZx70Kz`
`23:52.43`	`sharf224`	`I code in too many different programs everything starts to blur lol`
`23:53.25`	`nooblark`	`so basically you have 36 triggers, and you want to narrow it down to 6?`
`23:53.39`	`sharf224`	`so far I only made the 1`
`23:53.43`	`nooblark`	`mmk`
`23:53.45`	`sharf224`	`and I want to NOT make 35 more`
`23:53.52`	`nooblark`	`that's fine`
`23:54.00`	`nooblark`	`ill pastebin you some code back`
`23:54.09`	`nooblark`	`are there computers in your game`
`23:54.16`	`nooblark`	`or players only`
`23:54.20`	`sharf224`	`there will be`
`23:54.33`	`sharf224`	`but not selecting heroes`
`23:54.37`	`nooblark`	`okay`
`23:57.40`	`nooblark`	`http://pastebin.com/Ehh3ZczX`
`23:57.54`	`nooblark`	`that's for making a unit selector for each player, just change marine to civilian`
`23:58.12`	`nooblark`	`there's no need to set it to a variable, because you can control the unit that enter region`
`23:58.47`	`sharf224`	`well the original help I got, only knew how to detect what unit was in a region if it was in a variable`
`23:59.04`	`nooblark`	`ok`
`23:59.06`	`nooblark`	`this next part`
`23:59.19`	`nooblark`	`is going to be a little weird, but i'll explain it as much as you need`
`23:59.34`	`nooblark`	`do you know how to use arrays or presets?`

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