| 00:01.08 | nooblark | wow i have an infinit loop that didnt freeze my game! |
| 00:01.15 | nooblark | totally forgot to add a wait. |
| 00:07.12 | Bommes | what up dawgs |
| 00:07.48 | Zolden | Triceron: did u manage to create animation keys for numbers-parameters? |
| 00:07.53 | Zolden | like we had in m3 exporter |
| 00:08.05 | Triceron | what do you mean |
| 00:08.09 | Zolden | if u change a number having auto key, in aquire a key |
| 00:08.21 | Zolden | and changes with an animation |
| 00:08.33 | Triceron | of what field? |
| 00:08.36 | Zolden | for example, you change anim multiplier, and it changes |
| 00:08.44 | Zolden | any field that have a number |
| 00:09.15 | Zolden | err.... for example, emissive multiplier |
| 00:09.36 | nooblark | LOL |
| 00:09.43 | Zolden | i wanted my model to fade out the brightness of emissive color at death animation |
| 00:09.46 | nooblark | i was just making hydras dance to my music. |
| 00:09.48 | Zolden | but i didn't work |
| 00:09.53 | Zolden | lol |
| 00:09.59 | Zolden | r u high nooblark? |
| 00:10.25 | Zolden | sometimes i make my models or units dance to my music too |
| 00:10.35 | Zolden | like rotating em rhytmically or move a leg |
| 00:11.39 | nooblark | moving them rythmically |
| 00:11.53 | nooblark | and then clicking around them really fast to make them appear to be spinning in place. |
| 00:12.00 | nooblark | and then adding a /dance command in there |
| 00:12.03 | nooblark | and repeating. |
| 00:12.09 | Triceron | I haven't done any anims using numbers yet |
| 00:12.23 | nooblark | i just thought of a new map |
| 00:12.26 | Triceron | I'm gonna test visibility next week or during the weekend |
| 00:12.28 | nooblark | random pop song clips play |
| 00:12.37 | nooblark | and each player gets a chance to make a unit dance |
| 00:12.43 | Triceron | to see who leaves the map first? |
| 00:12.44 | nooblark | then players vote on best dancer. |
| 00:13.21 | Triceron | make it like qwop |
| 00:13.29 | Triceron | keys control limbs |
| 00:14.17 | nooblark | lol |
| 00:14.29 | nooblark | you were making fun of the idea, don't try and help |
| 00:14.31 | nooblark | bastard. |
| 00:15.25 | Zolden | Triceron: oh, this worked actually, but not on emissive multiplier by some reason ;/ |
| 00:15.32 | Zolden | works on other numbers |
| 00:19.28 | Otixa | Party pants |
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| 00:25.02 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | hey sixen |
| 00:26.12 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | ~seen sixen |
| 00:26.17 | purl | sixen is currently on #sc2mapster (2d 15h 7m 16s) #wowuidev (2d 15h 7m 16s). Has said a total of 10 messages. Is idling for 2d 1h 43m 11s, last said: 'It's now a stand-alone, free-to-play game (with microtransactions)'. |
| 00:29.05 | Triceron | sudden craving for sushi, and i just had that yesterday :S |
| 00:38.21 | Zolden | ok, finished animating the guys http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VfBDXCGLTEM |
| 00:40.27 | Triceron | ooh I like the arms |
| 00:40.58 | Triceron | ah so the keying emissive worked |
| 00:41.41 | Zolden | yea :) |
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| 00:42.17 | Zolden | Not material's emissive multiplier, but multiplier within emissive layer |
| 00:43.34 | Triceron | it looks really cool! |
| 00:44.01 | Triceron | you should totally give it a physics death though ;) |
| 00:44.36 | Zolden | yea, would be cool, but i feel a bit lazy about it :) |
| 00:45.20 | Zolden | i'll better upload my td map on na and check if americans like it |
| 00:45.23 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | how do you give a model physics death |
| 00:45.50 | Zolden | Triceron knows about |
| 00:46.01 | Triceron | add physics to model parts |
| 00:46.20 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | oh i see is there a tutorial on it |
| 00:46.30 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | i can see people would like one |
| 00:46.37 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | or is there one in the beta tools |
| 00:47.11 | Zolden | I think their physics is too expensive, it didn't even let me preview 2048 water baloons with physics :) |
| 00:47.17 | Triceron | yeah, the tutorial is part of startools |
| 00:47.40 | Zolden | i built a pyramid and wanted to see how it act |
| 00:47.53 | Triceron | yeah, that's why I'm just using it for death anims |
| 00:48.05 | Triceron | they play then disappear |
| 00:48.13 | Zolden | that tutorial includes lots of interesting little feature about how the engine works |
| 00:48.35 | xXdRaGoNrIdDeRXx | cool have to look at it sometime |
| 00:48.41 | Zolden | for example, i was wondered to know that we don't even know any bones anymore, and we can use anything like a bone |
| 00:49.38 | Zolden | or that anim name system, where if we ask for stand poop rid animation, it can find and use stand pee sing |
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| 01:17.46 | Bommes | is there a function to get the position of the mouse without the "mouse moved" event or whatever it is called? |
| 01:21.10 | Zolden | anyone on NA wanna text my TD map? |
| 01:24.37 | nooblark | text? |
| 01:24.44 | nooblark | test? sure, i'll help. |
| 01:24.49 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/RogueTemple_zpsd07604e1.jpg |
| 01:25.06 | nooblark | darra |
| 01:25.11 | nooblark | how many times i gotta say |
| 01:25.12 | nooblark | WE DONT CARE |
| 01:25.14 | nooblark | lol :P |
| 01:25.35 | Daara | except for all the people asking me to do models for them :P |
| 01:25.54 | nooblark | you can make a million models, until they are in maps.. you get the point |
| 01:26.04 | Daara | they are in a map |
| 01:26.07 | Daara | it's just not finished yet |
| 01:26.11 | nooblark | lol |
| 01:26.15 | Daara | :P |
| 01:30.33 | Taintedwisp | Daara Work harder |
| 01:31.15 | Taintedwisp | nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga!!! |
| 01:31.18 | Daara | i was busy last 2 days :c |
| 01:31.25 | Taintedwisp | Its an actual song :( |
| 01:31.51 | Daara | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlKL_EpnSp8 |
| 01:32.00 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0itOCgJtNVU |
| 01:32.03 | Taintedwisp | see :( |
| 01:32.17 | Taintedwisp | Thats what Martain Luther died for :(... |
| 01:32.30 | Taintedwisp | That makes me want slavery back.... sadly |
| 01:32.53 | nooblark | tainted |
| 01:32.57 | Daara | read a book nigga |
| 01:32.59 | Taintedwisp | hah i know its horribl |
| 01:33.00 | Taintedwisp | e:P |
| 01:33.08 | Taintedwisp | yo nooblark :P |
| 01:33.11 | Taintedwisp | whats up |
| 01:33.22 | nooblark | you |
| 01:33.27 | nooblark | are a plagerizer |
| 01:33.53 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 01:34.02 | nooblark | plagiarizer* |
| 01:34.06 | Taintedwisp | on what? |
| 01:34.11 | Taintedwisp | My previous comment? |
| 01:34.14 | nooblark | yes |
| 01:34.15 | Daara | read deoderant nigga |
| 01:34.16 | Taintedwisp | ah haha |
| 01:34.18 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 01:34.18 | Daara | it's called speed stick |
| 01:34.20 | Daara | it's not expensive |
| 01:34.26 | Daara | wear * |
| 01:34.27 | Daara | lol |
| 01:34.44 | nooblark | i like this rap |
| 01:34.44 | nooblark | lol |
| 01:34.49 | nooblark | it's funny |
| 01:34.56 | Taintedwisp | lo,. |
| 01:35.07 | Taintedwisp | It is funny as hell.. but its pretty stupid |
| 01:35.14 | nooblark | no way |
| 01:35.19 | nooblark | so fucking good |
| 01:36.39 | nooblark | lolololol |
| 01:36.43 | nooblark | this is so funy |
| 01:37.04 | Daara | i still can't believe it only has 3.8 million views |
| 01:37.09 | nooblark | ... |
| 01:37.12 | nooblark | 6.6mil |
| 01:37.15 | Daara | ? |
| 01:37.20 | nooblark | says 6.6 to me. |
| 01:37.31 | Daara | i'm talking about my link :P |
| 01:37.57 | nooblark | oh i thought you meant tainteds |
| 01:38.05 | Taintedwisp | haha funny as shit daara |
| 01:38.07 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:38.57 | nooblark | tainted's funnier |
| 01:40.55 | Taintedwisp | see I hate rap less that shit if funny |
| 01:41.46 | nooblark | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zhgwy9y5ttA |
| 01:41.50 | nooblark | thats kinda funny |
| 01:42.27 | Daara | yes |
| 01:42.30 | Daara | boondocks is hilarious |
| 01:44.20 | Daara | wait a minute...I'M WHITE! HAHAHAHAHAH |
| 01:44.46 | nooblark | lol |
| 01:46.41 | nooblark | youtube is a fgcking addiction |
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| 01:49.13 | Taintedwisp | lol a nigga moment |
| 01:49.16 | Taintedwisp | that was a great episode |
| 01:49.17 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 01:50.53 | Daara | they are trying to make an uncle ruckus movie :D |
| 01:51.45 | Taintedwisp | i know |
| 01:51.49 | Taintedwisp | I made a mapster post :P |
| 01:52.13 | Taintedwisp | I didnt know it, but did you know the voice behind ruckus is General Warfield, and The Executor from Sc2 WoL? |
| 01:52.32 | Taintedwisp | So WOL got some ruckus haha |
| 01:52.45 | Taintedwisp | Ruckus was finnaly geting to be a white man |
| 01:53.13 | Daara | what's his name? |
| 01:53.16 | Daara | the actor |
| 01:53.20 | Daara | voice actor |
| 01:54.00 | Taintedwisp | http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0930637/ |
| 01:54.03 | Taintedwisp | thats hi m |
| 01:54.10 | Taintedwisp | its the same guy for the uncle ruckus movie |
| 01:54.19 | Taintedwisp | Smart Brother from undercover brother |
| 01:54.41 | Taintedwisp | StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty (Video Game) General Warfield/Tal'darim Executor (voice) |
| 01:55.57 | Daara | damn he does a lot |
| 01:56.34 | Taintedwisp | yeah I know |
| 01:56.39 | Taintedwisp | and the majority of it is good |
| 01:56.43 | Taintedwisp | Hes a damn good actor too |
| 01:56.54 | Taintedwisp | In malcom in the middle and Undercover brother he was great |
| 02:00.24 | nooblark | lol |
| 02:00.34 | nooblark | this dudes face is priceless when drummming' |
| 02:02.05 | Daara | he was in end of days? |
| 02:02.07 | Daara | i just watched that |
| 02:02.11 | Daara | i don't recall seeing him |
| 02:03.02 | Taintedwisp | he was just an extra daara |
| 02:03.15 | Daara | yea i see that now |
| 02:03.21 | Taintedwisp | he was also young :P |
| 02:03.24 | Daara | he was the black guy at the start when satan first shows up |
| 02:03.36 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 02:03.42 | Daara | was in the sewer checking natural gas levels or something |
| 02:06.35 | Taintedwisp | yeah just some pidly shit role |
| 02:06.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:06.40 | Taintedwisp | but a role none the less |
| 02:16.46 | nooblark | LOLOL |
| 02:16.58 | nooblark | this kid is funny |
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| 02:17.23 | nooblark | hey taz |
| 02:17.36 | iMisu | Sup man |
| 02:17.40 | nooblark | you home already? |
| 02:17.48 | iMisu | Nah at work |
| 02:17.52 | nooblark | newb |
| 02:18.17 | iMisu | How's the map |
| 02:18.24 | nooblark | i havent touched it |
| 02:18.26 | iMisu | I'm on lunch atm |
| 02:18.36 | nooblark | lunch? it's 6pm. |
| 02:18.55 | nooblark | watching drum vids atm |
| 02:19.04 | iMisu | Well started at 1 |
| 02:20.05 | iMisu | Were you able to do the starting dialog fix ? |
| 02:20.25 | iMisu | And separate the dialog for each player? |
| 02:20.28 | Taintedwisp | How did you know it was ManMIsu? |
| 02:20.29 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:20.48 | Taintedwisp | There is no taz, just start saying manmisu and womanmisu |
| 02:20.54 | nooblark | dude |
| 02:20.59 | Taintedwisp | Taz is a fictional character |
| 02:21.00 | nooblark | i didnt need to do that shit |
| 02:21.00 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:21.02 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 02:21.04 | nooblark | and you made me do it |
| 02:21.04 | iMisu | Cause Misu doesn't play SC II |
| 02:21.12 | iMisu | Anymore |
| 02:21.13 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 02:21.13 | nooblark | hence why you were a douche yesterday |
| 02:21.25 | Taintedwisp | ? |
| 02:21.28 | Taintedwisp | What did I do yesterday? |
| 02:21.29 | nooblark | dont bring it up, or you'll earn douchebag title again |
| 02:21.47 | Taintedwisp | all I did was ask taz why he used misu's name :P |
| 02:21.57 | iMisu | I don't get it. I you fixed it? |
| 02:22.10 | iMisu | I'm confused douce bag title or not |
| 02:22.23 | Taintedwisp | Curiosity only kills the car when some douchebag runs over it :( |
| 02:22.28 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 02:22.42 | nooblark | it was never broken |
| 02:22.58 | nooblark | every good mapper in this IRC said dialogs are player independent |
| 02:23.09 | nooblark | it's a good habit to make them individually, but it won't matter |
| 02:23.44 | Taintedwisp | Dialogs ARE NOT player Independent... I have but with mine right now -_-, if 1 person opens the hidden dialogs Everyones open... |
| 02:23.52 | Taintedwisp | Soulcarverr is actually fixing that right now |
| 02:24.02 | iMisu | So ? You left it the way it is |
| 02:24.12 | iMisu | Or do I need to do it my seld |
| 02:24.17 | iMisu | Self |
| 02:24.47 | Daara | for ev ver |
| 02:25.08 | Taintedwisp | AND EV VER!!! |
| 02:26.05 | Taintedwisp | I am Designing 6 new heroes :P that Imma take my time on and make slowly |
| 02:26.14 | Daara | YOU PLAY BALL LIKE A GIRL! |
| 02:26.58 | iMisu | Nooblark ? |
| 02:28.53 | iMisu | Okay well ignore me. I have to get back to work |
| 02:30.50 | nooblark | watching videos bro |
| 02:30.53 | nooblark | chill the fuck out |
| 02:30.59 | nooblark | tainted |
| 02:31.18 | nooblark | you're wrong |
| 02:31.38 | nooblark | i dialog can be manipulated player independently |
| 02:31.53 | nooblark | i can show Dialog A for All Players |
| 02:32.07 | nooblark | but i can change Item 1 for Player 1 |
| 02:32.25 | nooblark | players != 1 will see the original, whereas player 1 will see something different |
| 02:32.35 | nooblark | and ALL item dialogs are per player. |
| 02:37.06 | Taintedwisp | yeah |
| 02:37.37 | Taintedwisp | Okay, but ONLINE, what mine does is, IF ANYONE OPENS IT, then EVERYONE sees it -_-... that being said they still see their selected option in the dialog |
| 02:37.55 | Shawn|Rawr | Then you are doing it wron |
| 02:41.02 | nooblark | yeah tainted, totally doing it wrong. |
| 02:42.52 | Taintedwisp | Well I didnt do it :P someone else did :) and they are fixing it right now a long with a lot of other htings |
| 02:44.16 | Taintedwisp | I think Imma remove the idea of mercenaries for now. |
| 02:45.49 | Taintedwisp | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/93971126/TO%20DO.txt Thats currently what is on my own to do list once I get the map back :DD |
| 02:54.08 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth|2 you okay with me Removing Mercenaries from the game for the time being? |
| 02:54.12 | Taintedwisp | they feel gimmicky |
| 02:59.43 | nooblark | YOU'RE GIMMICKY |
| 03:01.32 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 03:01.54 | Taintedwisp | They were though, they just felt like a pointless addition so Until I redesign them to be better and more useful, THey are out. |
| 03:03.03 | Vailreth|2 | removing what doesnt work is a sign of a good designer |
| 03:05.06 | nooblark | i personally think it's a stupid idea anyway |
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| 03:06.06 | Vailreth|2 | i dont think its stuoud just a poor fit |
| 03:06.29 | Vailreth|2 | well poor as currenlt implimented |
| 03:06.43 | nooblark | well, there's regular units |
| 03:06.46 | nooblark | mercenaries |
| 03:06.48 | nooblark | and heros.. |
| 03:06.55 | nooblark | too much shit, imo. |
| 03:07.01 | nooblark | not my map though |
| 03:07.26 | Vailreth|2 | the role of the mercs could be better played via a diffrent mechanisim |
| 03:07.43 | Vailreth|2 | Taintedwisp what did you want the mercs to do? |
| 03:08.06 | Taintedwisp | I wanted mercenaries, to help players when they get behind |
| 03:08.21 | Taintedwisp | I wanted them to be units that are better when the player has less or weaker units then others |
| 03:08.28 | nooblark | so what do they do for the players ahead? lol |
| 03:08.57 | Taintedwisp | Thats the problem, they just WRECK everything right now... |
| 03:08.57 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:09.09 | Taintedwisp | Enhancements too :P but imma quadrouple the price of those |
| 03:09.12 | nooblark | i think that's what the hero should be for. |
| 03:09.22 | Taintedwisp | Those are ment to be VERY COST HIGH but high reward too |
| 03:09.28 | Taintedwisp | yeah it is |
| 03:09.29 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:09.40 | nooblark | LOL... GANGSTA RAP |
| 03:09.42 | Taintedwisp | Imma give ALL spawned units a HUGE debuff against heroes anyways |
| 03:09.45 | nooblark | listening to a different one |
| 03:10.12 | Taintedwisp | If a spawned unit attacks a hero Its going to be like half or 1.4th the dmage. |
| 03:10.15 | Taintedwisp | 1/4th |
| 03:10.39 | Vailreth|2 | perhaps instead of Mecs, special Behavior+Upgrade combos |
| 03:11.04 | nooblark | nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga i'm 100% nigga |
| 03:11.05 | nooblark | LOL |
| 03:11.07 | nooblark | so funny |
| 03:11.15 | nooblark | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0itOCgJtNVU&list=PL01F2DB50B490270D |
| 03:11.21 | nooblark | thanks to tainted for original link :P |
| 03:11.23 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 03:11.29 | Vailreth|2 | on second thought that may not work |
| 03:11.39 | Taintedwisp | Yeah maybe Vailreth I dunno yet though for now though Mercs are gone :P. |
| 03:12.09 | Taintedwisp | So far NO GAME has gone past the 7th evolution |
| 03:12.11 | Taintedwisp | which is worrying me |
| 03:12.17 | Taintedwisp | and heroes suck almost all game |
| 03:12.25 | Taintedwisp | Thats why I am adding the HUGE debuff against heroes |
| 03:12.44 | Taintedwisp | They just kill heroes WAY too fast haha |
| 03:12.51 | Taintedwisp | so 1/4th should balance that out a little |
| 03:12.54 | Taintedwisp | And I need to reduce lag.. |
| 03:13.16 | nooblark | lol why so laggy? |
| 03:13.21 | Taintedwisp | dunno |
| 03:13.33 | nooblark | do you test with the same people generally? |
| 03:13.36 | Taintedwisp | 100 units per player 6 players, all units use missiles |
| 03:13.43 | Taintedwisp | I'm the one laggin haha |
| 03:13.51 | Taintedwisp | i dont have a top notch computer though |
| 03:13.58 | nooblark | well maybe you got a nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga nigga internet |
| 03:14.04 | Taintedwisp | haah nope |
| 03:14.10 | Taintedwisp | 20MB download |
| 03:14.21 | Taintedwisp | niggas get 2 |
| 03:14.22 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:14.25 | Vailreth|2 | and your upload? |
| 03:14.35 | Taintedwisp | 1.95 Mbs |
| 03:14.40 | Vailreth|2 | ah |
| 03:14.45 | Taintedwisp | always had bad upload though :P |
| 03:14.58 | Taintedwisp | I guess im going to start turning off windows Aero |
| 03:15.05 | Taintedwisp | fucking aero kills the processor |
| 03:15.16 | nooblark | back to my map. |
| 03:21.07 | Vailreth|2 | wow i jut got the region may not be authenticated message box |
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| 03:34.37 | Vailreth|2 | widows classic theme is sure ugly |
| 03:36.42 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:37.38 | Daara | I'd like to take this time to congratulate Whitney Houston on a full year of sobriety. |
| 03:37.55 | Vailreth|2 | ouch |
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| 03:43.35 | Dustin|Home | Whats the best setting to use for DDS with transparency |
| 03:43.58 | ZombieZasz | like export or in 3ds max? |
| 03:44.11 | Dustin|Home | Export from PS |
| 03:44.15 | ZombieZasz | DXT5 |
| 03:44.41 | Dustin|Home | Should I generate mipmap |
| 03:44.45 | ZombieZasz | yes |
| 03:45.08 | Vailreth|2 | no |
| 03:46.01 | Vailreth|2 | it just adds to the size... if irecall correctly sc2 auto generates mipmaps for textures i have never exported with a mipmap and i have never had a problem |
| 03:46.56 | Dustin|Home | hmm |
| 03:47.25 | Dustin|Home | 87kb with a mip |
| 03:47.43 | Dustin|Home | hmm this isnt doing transparency right |
| 03:47.49 | Dustin|Home | Just making it all black |
| 03:48.13 | ZombieZasz | I personally found that it helps performace, I did run into a issue a while awhile back because I did not have a mipmap, but I don't recall what but it was probly niche |
| 03:48.49 | ZombieZasz | under material Basics, set specular to mask |
| 03:48.59 | ZombieZasz | and add the map to the alpha mask slot |
| 03:49.02 | Vailreth|2 | the transparancy is handled via an alpha channel it will be blakc but where the alpha masks it it will be transparent in game |
| 03:49.47 | Vailreth|2 | wait what are you using the texture for i was thinking custom decalls. |
| 03:51.23 | Vailreth|2 | i once had a decall of marios mustach on a mario recolored marine raynor ... i was thinking of doing tycus and luigi but i never got to it |
| 03:51.43 | Vailreth|2 | as luigi * |
| 03:52.50 | Vailreth|2 | ya gotta admit that would ave been epic |
| 03:53.20 | Taintedwisp | ALL YOUR TRANSPARENCIES ARE BELONG TO US!!! |
| 03:53.28 | Vailreth|2 | hah |
| 03:54.27 | Vailreth|2 | to be accurate that would be " ALL YOUR TRANSPARNCY ARE BELONG TO US" the miss translation uses base in the singular |
| 03:54.49 | Vailreth|2 | <-- Nerd |
| 03:54.51 | Dustin|Home | Its a dialog Background |
| 03:54.56 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 03:55.07 | Taintedwisp | Yeah dustin Alpha handles transparency :P |
| 03:55.14 | Taintedwisp | The stronger the alpha the greater the transparency |
| 03:55.16 | Taintedwisp | :) |
| 03:55.33 | Taintedwisp | I make my own projects Dialog images :) though I am not great. |
| 03:55.57 | Taintedwisp | http://s183.beta.photobucket.com/user/11shadowwolf/media/Screenshot2013-02-1301_29_11_zpsf9ff1721.jpg.html |
| 03:56.19 | Taintedwisp | well i alter the premade ones for me to be happy |
| 03:57.07 | Dustin|Home | Thats what I thought |
| 03:57.11 | Dustin|Home | but it's not working |
| 03:57.27 | Vailreth|2 | could you let me look at the dds? |
| 03:57.59 | Vailreth|2 | i may not be talented, but im skillful |
| 04:00.27 | Taintedwisp | HE MIGHT NOT BE A REAL BOY, BUT HE CAN COMPUTE THINGS FASTER THEN YOU!!!! |
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| 04:01.13 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth Im about to do something.. MWHAHAH |
| 04:01.31 | Dustin|Home | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/843426/upgradepanel.psd.psd |
| 04:02.08 | Vailreth|2 | what version of PS did you create this in? |
| 04:02.51 | Dustin|Home | CS6 |
| 04:03.20 | Vailreth|2 | ah i only have cs4 |
| 04:03.30 | Vailreth|2 | but i think i have identifed the issue |
| 04:03.32 | Dustin|Home | Its now just showing up as a fucking purple box |
| 04:03.33 | Dustin|Home | wtf |
| 04:03.59 | Vailreth|2 | let me attempt to a fix |
| 04:06.30 | Taintedwisp | THIS IS EITHER GOING TO BE AMAZING OR COMPLETELY FUCKING STUPID |
| 04:09.19 | Vailreth|2 | ok i am now going to Test the Fix |
| 04:09.45 | Taintedwisp | AND... it broke... |
| 04:09.53 | Taintedwisp | FUCK I DONT UNDERSTAND THESE FUCKING DIALOG IMAGES!!! |
| 04:13.57 | Dustin|Home | I was using TGa, but it didnt do level of transparency |
| 04:14.02 | Dustin|Home | it was either transparent or not |
| 04:14.14 | Dustin|Home | and I had this working before, but had to change the image |
| 04:14.47 | Taintedwisp | Hey Vailreth |
| 04:15.10 | Taintedwisp | How do I add transparency without affecting the alpha thats already there? |
| 04:16.11 | Taintedwisp | I mean how do I lessen 1 areas alpha to be the same as another? |
| 04:16.11 | ZombieZasz | make a new texture for the alpha mask |
| 04:17.02 | ZombieZasz | what are you trying to do? |
| 04:17.14 | Taintedwisp | nvm |
| 04:23.30 | Vailreth|2 | ok |
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| 04:25.59 | Vailreth|2 | Dustin|Home layer opacity is not accounted for in crating the aplha channel, to create the transpancy in the body of the boxes you will need around 50% or lighter grey in that area of the alpha channel |
| 04:29.20 | Vailreth|2 | or darker depending on how much you want to show through |
| 04:33.48 | Vailreth|2 | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25150886/test%203.jpg |
| 04:35.47 | Dustin|Home | how did you do that |
| 04:37.05 | Dustin|Home | I didnt think I had to make an alpha chanel for dds |
| 04:37.06 | Dustin|Home | damnit |
| 04:38.23 | Vailreth|2 | i recreated the alpha channel using the text layers, shape 1 and layer 4 as a selection first and filled the alpha in with black then delescted and used layer 5 as a selection and filled that area in the alpha wth 50% grey |
| 04:38.53 | Vailreth|2 | i porbably could have gotten away with just using shape 1 as the selection source |
| 04:39.42 | Vailreth|2 | then i inverted the layer |
| 04:40.48 | Vailreth|2 | not the layer but the alpha channel |
| 04:40.54 | Vailreth|2 | sorry |
| 04:41.09 | Taintedwisp | TIME TO SEE WHAT I GOT |
| 04:41.51 | Taintedwisp | AIDS |
| 04:42.25 | Vailreth|2 | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25150886/upgradepanel2.psd |
| 04:42.40 | Vailreth|2 | if you want to take a look |
| 04:43.12 | Taintedwisp | NOW TO SEE |
| 04:43.13 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 04:43.17 | Taintedwisp | IT worked in one map |
| 04:43.24 | Taintedwisp | LEts try it on evofrenzy to see how it looks mwhahahah |
| 04:44.01 | Vailreth|2 | aslo i created a dialog hid the background and used your image as dialog item image |
| 04:44.29 | Vailreth|2 | when i tried to use it as a dialog background image i disovered they are mapped in a specific way |
| 04:47.20 | Dustin|Home | oh |
| 04:47.27 | Dustin|Home | so the same as a targa |
| 04:48.14 | Vailreth|2 | anyway im out |
| 04:50.14 | Taintedwisp | What I did just looked Stupid haha |
| 04:58.20 | Daara | http://imgur.com/gallery/US9UgoL |
| 05:04.44 | nooblark | LOL DARRA |
| 05:05.13 | nooblark | you read the commments? |
| 05:05.19 | nooblark | Who needs a goalie when your sweeper has a ball magnet in his face? |
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| 05:08.19 | nooblark | goodnight |
| 05:09.18 | Daara | lol |
| 05:09.38 | Daara | yea i usually read the top 4 or 5 |
| 05:10.10 | Daara | Anyone notice that little kids that play soccer can take a hit without pretending that they've been crippled for life? |
| 05:10.11 | Daara | :D |
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| 05:30.32 | iMisu | nooblark |
| 05:31.41 | iMisu | http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/img0957kt.jpg/ |
| 05:32.37 | Daara | your car? |
| 05:32.55 | iMisu | yeah |
| 05:33.00 | Daara | why did you do that? |
| 05:33.09 | iMisu | it was a setup |
| 05:33.10 | iMisu | i didnt do it |
| 05:33.35 | iMisu | i was basically attacked |
| 05:34.09 | Daara | uh huh... |
| 05:34.51 | iMisu | the guy in front of me slammed on his breaks |
| 05:34.56 | iMisu | and the guy be hind me shoved me into him |
| 05:35.04 | Daara | =\ |
| 05:35.14 | Daara | why did you let them do that to you? |
| 05:35.17 | iMisu | i wasnt tailgating |
| 05:35.21 | iMisu | i got shoved that hard |
| 05:35.38 | Daara | shoulda seen it coming |
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| 05:51.49 | Vindicator | I copy and paste this from the art tools documentation: "Because Frame 0 must be clean, all animations should occur in positive frame rangers." |
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| 06:32.10 | Taintedwisp | YOu should probably just quit... |
| 06:32.34 | Taintedwisp | just quit... |
| 06:32.35 | Taintedwisp | :P |
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| 06:56.12 | iMisu | daara |
| 06:56.29 | Daara | huh wut |
| 06:56.34 | Daara | hey soulcarver |
| 06:59.11 | iMisu | anyone bored and wana help me with some triggers for about 30 min :D |
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| 07:00.32 | hobbidude | anyone know how to launch a projectile using a behaviour effect? |
| 07:01.41 | hobbidude | or rather i need a target intant ability that can be toggled |
| 07:14.27 | Taintedwisp | Hobbidude I need more Info then that? |
| 07:15.59 | hobbidude | i think i might have found it |
| 07:16.04 | Taintedwisp | oh ok] |
| 07:16.20 | hobbidude | i think i can just used the bahavoir i already have to enable/disable abilities |
| 07:16.43 | Taintedwisp | ah ok |
| 07:16.56 | hobbidude | what i need was a projectile ability that could be toggled |
| 07:19.34 | Taintedwisp | so? do toggle ability and have the off above the on, so when you press on it dissapears and shows the projectile ability under it |
| 07:20.05 | hobbidude | ?? |
| 07:20.35 | hobbidude | toggle ability is a bahavoir ability not and instant effect |
| 07:21.05 | hobbidude | this issue is a bahavoir ability can't launch missiles |
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| 07:27.51 | hobbidude | any chance you know how to redirect projectiles too? |
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| 09:11.26 | Bommes | Is there a maximum amount of preplaced units? |
| 09:11.54 | twodie | it should be |
| 09:11.58 | twodie | thoousadnds |
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| 09:36.10 | Bommes | tens of thousands would be better |
| 09:36.28 | Bommes | I read something around 16k somewhere |
| 09:36.33 | Bommes | that should be sufficient if its true |
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| 09:45.13 | XenoX101 | hey guys |
| 09:45.21 | XenoX101 | I just got a crazy idea, and was wondering if you guys think it would work |
| 09:45.29 | XenoX101 | Tyrian, remade in SC2 |
| 09:46.47 | mallard | googles tyrian |
| 09:46.56 | XenoX101 | I know the response time for WASD is not the best, but is it still doable? |
| 09:46.59 | mallard | so it's like lost viking.. |
| 09:47.08 | XenoX101 | come on man, its like the best shooter ever |
| 09:47.30 | XenoX101 | yeah basically but its got an awesome story with some nice wit, and a really good customization system |
| 09:47.55 | XenoX101 | oh and awesome music |
| 09:48.06 | mallard | well, good news xenox, today is starutday, so perfect opportunity for you to quickly create a test map/prototype and check it out! |
| 09:48.23 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 09:48.27 | XenoX101 | it would take a while though :( |
| 09:48.35 | mallard | once you setup it I can help you test it in multiplayer |
| 09:48.41 | XenoX101 | hm |
| 09:48.47 | mallard | a time spent mapping is a time well spent |
| 09:48.56 | mallard | so don't shy off, make it happen |
| 09:48.58 | XenoX101 | how long do you think it'd take to get such an engine set up |
| 09:49.16 | XenoX101 | the other thing is, a big part of it would be graphics and sound similar to the game |
| 09:49.22 | mallard | open lost viking and study how they did it |
| 09:49.24 | XenoX101 | and I'm not sure how easy it is to do those things |
| 09:50.02 | XenoX101 | does anyone know if HOTS has made importing 3D stuffs easier? |
| 09:50.14 | mallard | do a bare bones first, other odditions will come later, even if you can't find perfect art, the fact that you have a playable and enjoyable prototype will move you forward |
| 09:50.21 | XenoX101 | in particular, things with particles, as I remember that was particularly problematic in the past |
| 09:50.31 | XenoX101 | thats true |
| 09:51.39 | mallard | hm, I'd imagine that with art tools out, making proper 3D stuff wouldn't be an issue anymore, but that's not my area of expertise |
| 09:51.53 | XenoX101 | ic |
| 09:52.43 | XenoX101 | the other thing is tyrian had some bad-ass weapons |
| 09:52.55 | XenoX101 | and I think it may be too difficult to create them with SC2's missile movers |
| 09:53.05 | mallard | have you tried? |
| 09:53.11 | XenoX101 | things like spiraling missiles |
| 09:53.23 | XenoX101 | I remember doing things with the warhound when I was making the HOTS mod |
| 09:53.42 | XenoX101 | the spiraling rockets, it was doable, but I think I'd struggle in making it precise enough |
| 09:54.03 | XenoX101 | for the player to rely on the trajectory to kill enemy ships |
| 09:54.53 | mallard | you're discouraging yourself even before you started :D |
| 09:55.52 | XenoX101 | thats part of the process though isn't it? ;p |
| 09:56.30 | mallard | it's gonna be okay, you're gonna get more experience with movers and beams so after you remake tyrian it's gonna be even easier to make awesome stuff for you |
| 09:57.56 | XenoX101 | you're just a well of optimism aren't you |
| 09:58.28 | XenoX101 | and I don't mean that in a bad way ;p |
| 09:58.36 | mallard | it's like going to swim for the first time, you're afraid of the water so you're procastinating the action and maybe even trying to run away, and it's not gonna get any better you know.. until that moment when you just decide to dive in |
| 09:58.36 | XenoX101 | necessarily.. ;p |
| 09:58.41 | mallard | just.. be brave dude :D |
| 09:58.55 | XenoX101 | hm true |
| 09:59.05 | XenoX101 | my approach is a better though |
| 09:59.16 | XenoX101 | I make an elaborate plan, making schematics for every part of the map |
| 09:59.35 | XenoX101 | then I attempt it for a few hours, get some of it done, then never touch it again |
| 10:00.04 | mallard | that's exactly how I was when I started.. and a few years after that too :D |
| 10:01.28 | mallard | now I'm just.. "ah f*ck it, I'm making it", often without much foresight. And it kinda works out |
| 10:01.45 | XenoX101 | I wonder if it would be possible to get more people in on the project |
| 10:01.56 | mallard | when I need to plan, I plan, but there is plenty of basick things that can be done right now, so I do them :3 |
| 10:02.14 | XenoX101 | yeah thats true |
| 10:02.43 | mallard | and with them done, it's easier to coonect the dots and push yourself forward after initial burst of motivation fades |
| 10:03.06 | XenoX101 | yeah too true |
| 10:04.44 | mallard | the best way to lure peopele to your project is to create a functional demo, when they can touch it it's easier for everyone to know what needs to be done. Often people think "it's cool but it needs this and that. Hm I can even help them with some of that stuff. I'll join them for a while" |
| 10:08.39 | mallard | less responsibility, less weight, much better chances to join and help out with things that they see as glaring flaws. Do basicks by yourself, then acquire companions to refresh your prespective and push forward with reniewed enthusiasm. |
| 10:08.43 | mallard | goooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :D |
| 10:11.41 | XenoX101 | thanks for your advice mallard |
| 10:11.46 | XenoX101 | it is much appreciated :) |
| 10:12.04 | mallard | you're welcome, please have a nice day :> |
| 10:13.26 | Bommes | man, the next couple of weeks are going to be brutal... got another exam coming up and I reeeaaally want to finish my map until hots release |
| 10:14.30 | mallard | why is hots release important? |
| 10:15.09 | Bommes | because I want to start on a new map with all the new assets etc |
| 10:15.55 | Bommes | I don't want to mix WoL and HotS assets because of the physics stuff |
| 10:16.31 | mallard | but aren't physics gonna apply to wol too? |
| 10:17.25 | XenoX101 | the physics stuff is all superficial though |
| 10:17.30 | Bommes | yeah but the assets aren't upgraded for it, so the doodads have no physics bodies |
| 10:17.39 | Bommes | and all the ragdolls etc just fly through it |
| 10:17.41 | Bommes | which looks dumb |
| 10:17.52 | XenoX101 | so wait |
| 10:17.55 | Bommes | HotS assets actually collide with the stuff, looks much better |
| 10:17.56 | XenoX101 | if you make a WoL map |
| 10:18.00 | XenoX101 | then theres no physics? |
| 10:18.10 | XenoX101 | even if you port it into HOTS? |
| 10:18.30 | Bommes | I don't know if there is physics in WoL |
| 10:18.34 | Bommes | there is physics if you port it |
| 10:18.39 | Bommes | but your doodads |
| 10:18.43 | Bommes | etc |
| 10:18.44 | Bommes | aren't upgraded |
| 10:18.51 | XenoX101 | are they ever upgraded? |
| 10:18.53 | Bommes | so you have the problems I described above |
| 10:19.10 | Bommes | I don't know, I asked Blizzard but got no response |
| 10:19.16 | mallard | hm, Is thinking that blizz will update wol doodads to work with physics too once physics are released too potimistic? |
| 10:19.31 | mallard | *optimistic |
| 10:19.33 | Bommes | I didn't ask very vehemently though |
| 10:19.37 | Bommes | so maybe they just didn't see it |
| 10:19.58 | Bommes | dunno, I wouldn't count on it |
| 10:20.11 | mallard | since melee mapmakers will probably use some wol doodads in hots map too, regular battles would looke weird |
| 10:20.12 | Bommes | it's probably a lot of work and they won't use all of the doodads for their campaign |
| 10:20.18 | Bommes | they probably just update the ones they are using |
| 10:20.19 | XenoX101 | what if you remove the WoL dependency |
| 10:20.22 | XenoX101 | and only use HOTS dependencies |
| 10:20.31 | Bommes | then its fine |
| 10:20.34 | Bommes | thats what I was talkinga bout |
| 10:20.42 | XenoX101 | ya, wouldn't that upgrade them then |
| 10:20.44 | Bommes | that I want to use all the HotS assets at release |
| 10:20.46 | XenoX101 | even if you started now |
| 10:20.57 | XenoX101 | I doubt they would change the names of all the doodads |
| 10:21.07 | Bommes | you need WoL dependencies for some of the doodads |
| 10:21.16 | Bommes | because they are WoL assets |
| 10:21.29 | Bommes | but dunno, we will see when HotS comes out how they do it |
| 10:21.39 | Bommes | I wouldn't count on having WoL assets working with physics though |
| 10:21.41 | Bommes | at least not all of them |
| 10:23.09 | XenoX101 | well for example |
| 10:23.18 | XenoX101 | if you add the SC2Multi dependency |
| 10:23.29 | XenoX101 | all the stats on your SC2 assets get upgraded to the latest patch |
| 10:23.35 | XenoX101 | otherwise you get SC2 v1.0 units |
| 10:23.54 | XenoX101 | so by that logic, I think as long as they haven't renamed the doodads |
| 10:23.57 | XenoX101 | they should be upgraded as well |
| 10:24.25 | Bommes | yes but you have to manually modify the models themselves |
| 10:24.28 | Bommes | to make them work with physics |
| 10:24.33 | Bommes | you have to update them in 3ds max |
| 10:24.45 | XenoX101 | but wouldn't the model get updated automatically? |
| 10:24.49 | XenoX101 | if it uses the same name |
| 10:24.55 | XenoX101 | or have you tried it already |
| 10:25.06 | Bommes | what do you mean updated automatically? |
| 10:25.11 | Bommes | you need a new model |
| 10:25.13 | Bommes | one that is updated |
| 10:25.16 | Bommes | with a physics body |
| 10:25.26 | XenoX101 | yes, and that exists within the HOTS dependency no? |
| 10:25.33 | Bommes | if the artists created one |
| 10:25.39 | Bommes | for the old WoL assets, then yes |
| 10:25.41 | Bommes | otherwise no |
| 10:25.56 | Bommes | right now there is no indication that they did update the old assets |
| 10:26.12 | Bommes | on the other hand the HotS patch is more than 5GB |
| 10:26.13 | Bommes | so who knows |
| 10:26.20 | XenoX101 | my point is I thought they would have updated the old WoL assets in HOTS |
| 10:26.26 | XenoX101 | rather than creating new ones |
| 10:26.35 | XenoX101 | and that the dependency would include all the updates |
| 10:26.42 | Bommes | I know what your point is |
| 10:26.49 | Bommes | but what makes you think they would do the extra work |
| 10:26.54 | Bommes | for assets that they aren't going to use in the campaign? |
| 10:27.01 | Bommes | you can't know they do that |
| 10:27.05 | Bommes | unless you asked them and they responded |
| 10:27.31 | XenoX101 | I think it would have been easier for them to do that |
| 10:27.35 | XenoX101 | when you consider how many assets there are |
| 10:27.45 | Bommes | easier than what? |
| 10:27.51 | XenoX101 | creating new assets entirely |
| 10:27.55 | XenoX101 | especially because many of the multiplayer maps will be ported |
| 10:27.59 | XenoX101 | they would need to be remade with the new assets |
| 10:28.03 | Bommes | I'm not talking about creating completely new ones, but you have to still update them manually |
| 10:28.04 | Bommes | one by one |
| 10:28.08 | XenoX101 | something I doubt all mapmakers would be inclined to do |
| 10:28.21 | Bommes | multiplayer maps aren't using very many doodads |
| 10:28.28 | XenoX101 | mm I think they would still have it using the existing ones |
| 10:28.37 | XenoX101 | I think once you add the HOTS dependency it will just change the models |
| 10:28.38 | Bommes | so usually it's not a big deal when some physics ragdolls fly through old doodads |
| 10:28.44 | Bommes | it's more of a campaign and arcade problem imo |
| 10:28.46 | XenoX101 | the same way that the SC2multi dependency changes the stats for existing units |
| 10:28.52 | Bommes | no |
| 10:28.55 | Bommes | the artists |
| 10:28.58 | Bommes | have to update the models in 3ds max |
| 10:29.03 | Bommes | thats what I'm talking about the whole time |
| 10:29.19 | Bommes | there is no magical data field or something that updates everything automatically |
| 10:30.07 | XenoX101 | oh, you mean existing models to interact with the new ragdolls? |
| 10:30.20 | Bommes | yes |
| 10:30.23 | XenoX101 | hrm |
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| 11:20.25 | sc2println | Zolden: hi, the newest m3addon version contains now a RTT channel option. Thanks for your help figuring it out! |
| 11:21.09 | Zolden | oh, great |
| 11:21.22 | Zolden | and it works with camera now? |
| 11:21.40 | sc2println | it works as much as we tried it last time... |
| 11:22.01 | sc2println | I only enhanced the UI a bit |
| 11:22.10 | Zolden | alright |
| 11:25.47 | sc2println | Zolden: but once the Starcraft 2.0 patch is out, your models should work in WoL too |
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| 11:30.17 | Zolden | sc2println: yea, 2 weeks |
| 11:39.13 | sc2println | Zolden: could be |
| 11:39.22 | sc2println | a "few days" could also mean monday :) |
| 11:43.30 | twodie | they mostly release updates at Wednesday |
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| 12:15.51 | JademusSreg | I awaken. |
| 12:16.51 | Zolden | good job |
| 12:17.01 | Zolden | some aren't so lucky |
| 12:17.08 | JademusSreg | Took me an hour, but I finally managed it. |
| 12:17.41 | Zolden | any remarkable dreams? |
| 12:18.16 | Princess_Lun | I once dreamt I was fighting Chuck Norris |
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| 12:20.04 | JademusSreg | A tumultuous chaos of every sense modality, patches of shifting color and texture and shape, sound, taste, pain, pleasure, kinesthetic, vestibular, a disorienting vortex of errant stimuli, |
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| 12:23.11 | Zolden | sound like fund |
| 12:23.18 | Zolden | *fun |
| 12:48.45 | Otixa | x_x |
| 12:48.50 | Otixa | mornin motherfuckers |
| 12:49.11 | Zolden | mornin |
| 12:50.44 | JademusSreg | Morn. |
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| 13:37.21 | Siretu | I have a strange bug where some units disappears on map init if they're in sight range of another unit. |
| 13:37.46 | Siretu | and not other units, that were made the same way. |
| 13:38.13 | Siretu | http://i.imgur.com/O9Ir1fn.jpg |
| 13:38.44 | Siretu | And this is even though I reveal the entire map at start |
| 13:39.12 | Siretu | If I dont reveal the map at start, I can get them to show up by going out of sight range with the unit and then back again |
| 13:39.44 | Siretu | Does anyone have an idea what's going on? |
| 13:40.19 | A1win | have you checked the error log |
| 13:40.26 | A1win | that green checkbox at top left |
| 13:41.00 | Siretu | Yes. Nothing related |
| 13:41.45 | Siretu | It's complaining about an empty throw vector in my mover |
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| 13:42.58 | Siretu | I just fixed the mover error and my original problem still persists. |
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| 13:43.43 | A1win | sounds weird, do the units actually get removed or is it just their actors that don't show? |
| 13:58.09 | twodie | Probably decals have limit of 128! |
| 14:03.18 | Otixa | Speaking of decals |
| 14:03.28 | Otixa | Valve have an awesome method of encoding vector graphics |
| 14:03.58 | Otixa | http://www.valvesoftware.com/publications/2007/SIGGRAPH2007_AlphaTestedMagnification.pdf |
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| 14:11.31 | Zolden | twodie: omg, this is not cool |
| 14:11.52 | twodie | Zolden what? |
| 14:11.55 | twodie | a limit? |
| 14:12.08 | twodie | i dont say taht i said truth |
| 14:12.10 | twodie | but still |
| 14:12.21 | twodie | we can think that it about that number then |
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| 14:16.07 | Otixa | Researching french architecture in the Louis XIII style for mah scene :| |
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| 14:18.07 | Zolden | Otixa: interesting, show us the screens when it's ready |
| 14:18.15 | Otixa | ofc |
| 14:18.33 | Otixa | Just picking out architectural elements and thinking of how to modularize them into assets |
| 14:19.13 | Otixa | something like this maybe |
| 14:19.13 | Otixa | http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/870/800pxparisplacedesvosgeb.jpg |
| 14:19.24 | Otixa | but a really narrow street |
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| 14:55.14 | G0A | that pic looks like its from Center Europe |
| 14:59.25 | twodie | really not africa! |
| 15:04.02 | Dustin|Home | Morning gentlemen |
| 15:05.22 | JademusSreg | 'allo. |
| 15:08.43 | Dustin|Home | Guess Im going to try to find a way to simulate a smart click |
| 15:10.43 | JademusSreg | Why so? |
| 15:11.17 | Dustin|Home | Because no matter what I do, I can't get the Attack Ability to SmartCLick attack allys |
| 15:11.53 | JademusSreg | Will a Effect - Target ability smart click on allies? |
| 15:12.06 | JademusSreg | If so, you can use it to force the caster to attack the target. |
| 15:12.31 | Dustin|Home | Havent tried that yet |
| 15:13.52 | Zolden | Dustin|Home: did u try to change attack abil's fileters? |
| 15:14.08 | Dustin|Home | Yes |
| 15:14.14 | Dustin|Home | I change the smartclick field to allow allies |
| 15:14.18 | Zolden | so, it can autoaim allies? |
| 15:14.37 | Dustin|Home | No, can't aquire on it's own |
| 15:14.42 | Zolden | if your unit see an ally will it use attack abil on it? |
| 15:14.50 | Dustin|Home | but the search/smartclick are different fields |
| 15:14.50 | A1win | isn't that because Move also has smartclick when right clicking allies? |
| 15:15.08 | Dustin|Home | I tried disable move smart click |
| 15:15.16 | Dustin|Home | Cause it hought it might be overwriting, it but to no avail |
| 15:15.58 | A1win | maybe try without a move ability on the unit and see if it still doesn't work |
| 15:16.29 | A1win | (or try with a cannon) |
| 15:19.19 | Dustin|Home | Just made an ability Effect - Target, that runs an Effect to Issue the unit to attack the target, and I enabled Smart on both objects |
| 15:19.28 | Dustin|Home | Time to see if that works |
| 15:20.22 | Dustin|Home | Of coursen ot |
| 15:20.27 | JademusSreg | Weird. |
| 15:20.44 | A1win | no other abilities with smart click? |
| 15:20.52 | Dustin|Home | Its like there's something thats hardcoded overriding my ability to Smartclick an ally |
| 15:20.57 | Dustin|Home | nope |
| 15:21.01 | JademusSreg | That is counterintuitive. |
| 15:21.11 | A1win | and the ability actually *can* target allies? :P ...just checking |
| 15:21.25 | Dustin|Home | Yes, if I Press A then click an ally, works fine |
| 15:21.40 | Dustin|Home | This isnt even doing a adamage effect, just applies a behavior on attack |
| 15:22.13 | A1win | does it issue the move order or does it just do nothing when you smart click the ally? |
| 15:22.20 | Dustin|Home | Move order |
| 15:22.31 | Dustin|Home | Trying it without move now |
| 15:22.32 | JademusSreg | launches the editor. [theme music plays] |
| 15:22.33 | A1win | and it targets the ally, or the ground? |
| 15:22.43 | Dustin|Home | I cant tell |
| 15:23.04 | A1win | well it should show a selection circle effect if it's ordered to move targeting a unit, I think |
| 15:23.11 | Dustin|Home | I think it does the unit, cause it has the circle |
| 15:23.14 | A1win | move targeting a unit i.e. follow |
| 15:23.35 | Dustin|Home | Ya, its trying to to send the move command when I dont have it enabled |
| 15:23.40 | A1win | could be that you just can't disable the smart click from Move properly |
| 15:24.15 | Dustin|Home | But move wasn't even on the unit |
| 15:24.20 | Dustin|Home | And it was still trying to make them move |
| 15:24.26 | A1win | oh, right |
| 15:24.31 | Dustin|Home | So it sounds like They ahrdcoded ally units to only be able to move to |
| 15:24.39 | Dustin|Home | Or some shit |
| 15:25.01 | A1win | check if there's something in game settings data |
| 15:25.07 | A1win | or someplace else |
| 15:25.19 | A1win | like there's the default idle order and stuff |
| 15:25.34 | Dustin|Home | Scowered all the hidden settings, still couldnt find any sort of controller for that :( |
| 15:28.50 | Dustin|Home | I wouldnt even mind making a Trigger hack for this, but I have no way of knowing when a player smartclicks a unit |
| 15:30.37 | JademusSreg | Have you adjusted the Follow or Move filters for a custom Move ability? |
| 15:31.42 | JademusSreg | I'd expect unflagging Ally in both would prevent it. |
| 15:32.44 | JademusSreg | The filters by default are blank and make no exclusions, making it a reliable fallback option. |
| 15:33.24 | Dustin|Home | I tried last night |
| 15:33.32 | Dustin|Home | I even disabled the move ability jsut now |
| 15:33.47 | Dustin|Home | And it's still trying to send them to move to ally |
| 15:34.26 | Dustin|Home | I might try this in HOTS and see if it's still broken |
| 15:34.52 | Vailreth|2|Gone | what are you attempting to do |
| 15:34.54 | Vailreth|2|Gone | ? |
| 15:35.32 | Dustin|Home | Make a unit attack any ally with a right click |
| 15:37.05 | Vail | did you edit or create your own attack ability with the flags changed? |
| 15:37.11 | Dustin|Home | Yes |
| 15:37.30 | Vail | and they are changed on the scan and attack filteres on the weapons? |
| 15:38.22 | Dustin|Home | I dont want it to auto scan for allys, just smart click attack |
| 15:38.47 | Dustin|Home | But the weapon does allow allys to be attacked |
| 15:38.54 | Dustin|Home | I can Click A and attack them |
| 15:39.53 | Vail | i think i had this working once in a command and conquer mod |
| 15:41.11 | Dustin|Home | If I enable scanning for allys, it autotargets them just fine |
| 15:41.13 | Zolden | command and conquer mod? |
| 15:41.21 | Dustin|Home | excepti t auto targets fucking doodads too? |
| 15:41.22 | Dustin|Home | wtf |
| 15:42.39 | Dustin|Home | And it stil lwont fucking smart click attack it lol |
| 15:44.28 | Vail | yeah i had a command can conquer mod in the works for a while |
| 15:44.38 | Zolden | Vail: cnc models? |
| 15:44.48 | Zolden | or usual sc2 ones? |
| 15:45.07 | Vail | hadnt made it to models yet but i was working on the functionality first |
| 15:46.32 | Zolden | and it sounds like you gave it up? |
| 15:49.37 | Dustin|Home | This is stupid |
| 15:49.54 | Dustin|Home | It should not be this hard to make an ally smartclick attack. |
| 15:54.00 | Zolden | yea |
| 15:54.12 | Zolden | go to blizz hq and punch random person |
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| 15:59.38 | Dustin|Home | Bout to |
| 16:00.53 | Vail | i didnt give up as much as the map was accidentally deleted |
| 16:01.57 | Zolden | one day i'll remake dune2 |
| 16:02.17 | Zolden | and 90% of mod size will be music |
| 16:02.18 | Vail | well im headed off for breakfast i will be back |
| 16:06.33 | Dustin|Home | I think I migt have figuredo ut a workaround |
| 16:07.33 | Dustin|Home | fuck ya |
| 16:07.35 | Zolden | workaround is have "unit recieved an order" trigger |
| 16:07.41 | Dustin|Home | yup :P |
| 16:08.01 | Dustin|Home | https://pastee.org/nv5hk |
| 16:08.33 | Zolden | yea, like this |
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| 16:43.09 | twodie | so bored :/ |
| 16:44.14 | JademusSreg | How is that possible? =D |
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| 16:44.32 | twodie | JademusSreg why not? |
| 16:45.57 | A1win | there's always something to do o: |
| 16:46.04 | JademusSreg | We live in infinitely interesting times with previously unimaginable technologies at our service and opportunity to create and explore endless novelty. There is no time for boredom. |
| 16:46.14 | A1win | just stop trying to do the things you think you should do, and do the things you want to do ;3 |
| 16:46.48 | twodie | well both things are boring and lazy to do so :/ |
| 16:47.12 | JademusSreg | The only solution is to then terminate the process. =D |
| 16:47.14 | A1win | I'd think those are more than "two things" |
| 16:47.17 | twodie | probobly will have to watch a movie then |
| 16:47.25 | twodie | three! |
| 16:47.51 | twodie | or three with a half, sc2 editor, dota2, other games, or movies |
| 16:49.40 | twodie | its time for some Pursuit of happiness! |
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| 16:52.30 | A1win | for me it's something like: socializing (IRC), computer games, tabletop games (Android: Netrunner!), game design (video or tabletop), level design (sc2 editor), reading, writing, sometimes drawing |
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| 16:53.46 | Zolden | what do u write A1win |
| 16:54.41 | A1win | some random fiction, nothing worth sharing so far ;p and mostly unfinished like everything else I do anyway :P |
| 16:54.50 | A1win | but at least I'm not bored! |
| 16:57.53 | Zolden | yea, writing brings excitement, even euphoria if imagination works good |
| 16:58.15 | Zolden | did you read what Almighty writes? |
| 16:59.46 | A1win | nope |
| 17:00.19 | Zolden | it's good |
| 17:01.05 | Zolden | ask him if u curious, u won't regret |
| 17:01.15 | A1win | I've been writing in english, and even though I've been getting better, I still could use a larger vocabluary |
| 17:01.34 | A1win | or I probably should write in Finnish x\ |
| 17:02.16 | A1win | though I guess it doesn't hurt to get better at english either even if I can't get to the same level as with my native language D: |
| 17:02.58 | Zolden | u can't get to the same level because if you learn it u'll aquire higher level |
| 17:03.07 | A1win | ...plus I wouldn't be able to share the stuff with foreigners <.< |
| 17:03.22 | A1win | what do you mean |
| 17:03.33 | Zolden | english became international |
| 17:04.19 | Zolden | i mean that most of ppl with english as 1st language has a pure vocabulary |
| 17:04.48 | Zolden | because they use it for communication, not for writing fiction |
| 17:05.24 | Zolden | so, wirters who decided to switch language to english usually show better skills after some time |
| 17:06.02 | A1win | better skills than what? |
| 17:06.55 | A1win | I mean if I wrote in Finnish, I'd become better at writing faster than if I wrote in English |
| 17:08.21 | Zolden | u can do both |
| 17:08.23 | A1win | but writing in English has the benefit of learning the language for other purposes as well, and not needing a translator in order to share the works for more people |
| 17:08.53 | Dustin|Home | Zolden |
| 17:08.56 | Zolden | yea |
| 17:09.07 | A1win | yea I know, but it takes more time ;p |
| 17:09.16 | Zolden | this chat and forum improved my english |
| 17:09.28 | Dustin|Home | If you ever are bored and want to do something cool, you should add some badass looking armor to the Floating Hybrid model |
| 17:10.06 | Zolden | i don't have importer to put it into max |
| 17:10.25 | Dustin|Home | Fuuuu |
| 17:10.37 | Zolden | besides the language, writing improves the thinking process |
| 17:11.17 | Ahli | how does writing do that? |
| 17:12.39 | Zolden | Ahli: when you write, you use logic and imagination, and they get trained and get better in the same way, as muscles |
| 17:13.21 | Zolden | it also improves concentration |
| 17:14.43 | Zolden | so, writers think faster and deeper than others |
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| 17:18.39 | Vindicator | in star tools documentation, things keep being referred to as a node. what, specifically, is a node? |
| 17:19.19 | Vindicator | (in 3dsmax) |
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| 17:20.18 | Vindicator | it sounds kinda like seperate entities/geometry or selections in 3ds max would be considered nodes, but i'm just not sure if that's the extent of it |
| 17:20.38 | Zolden | dunno |
| 17:21.07 | Zolden | I finished tutorials and don't remember anything not clear or nodes mentioned |
| 17:21.20 | Zolden | give an example |
| 17:21.37 | A1win | I got a sudden interest in cyberpunk after playing Android: Netrunner, thinking of writing some scifi influenced by it :x |
| 17:21.37 | Vindicator | "Separate Meshes will keep individual nodes in the scene as separate drawable pieces in the model. This will usually cause in-game units or doodads to draw significantly slower, and should generally be avoided. It can, however, be a minor optimization for very large models that the camera can be inside of, such as StoryMode rooms." |
| 17:22.19 | Vindicator | so if i wanted to make a house with 4 walls as seperate nodes so they would occlude seperately, i'd like to know what defines a node basically |
| 17:24.28 | Zolden | not sure, but they probably talk about merging meshes into one mesh |
| 17:25.43 | Vindicator | k |
| 17:25.46 | Vindicator | ty |
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| 18:02.14 | hobbidude | anyone know of a way to toggle between ability without it being a bahavior ability? |
| 18:05.34 | JademusSreg | Use restrictions. |
| 18:05.47 | JademusSreg | Via Requirements. |
| 18:13.10 | hobbidude | where is that in abilities? |
| 18:13.30 | JademusSreg | I was refering more to the command card. |
| 18:13.31 | hobbidude | oh got it |
| 18:13.36 | JademusSreg | But either way. |
| 18:13.39 | hobbidude | just in commands |
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| 18:19.07 | mille25 | hi |
| 18:19.10 | Ahli | we can post on the US forum now :D |
| 18:19.17 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 18:19.22 | Zolden | Ahli: wow |
| 18:19.28 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7924142427?page=1#9 proof :D |
| 18:19.34 | Bommes | Ahli: woot |
| 18:19.46 | Zolden | how do u manage to дуфкт ерштпы ашкые, |
| 18:19.47 | twodie | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTxLKbMM45U |
| 18:19.50 | Zolden | ;/ |
| 18:19.51 | Bommes | is that true for wow forums too? |
| 18:19.52 | Bommes | or just sc2? |
| 18:20.07 | Ahli | who the hell cares about wow? |
| 18:20.36 | Bommes | I don't right now, but I would have cared a year ago |
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| 18:20.42 | Zolden | waht's "mvp"? |
| 18:20.43 | Bommes | because I was pissed about that too in wow |
| 18:20.53 | JademusSreg | Who would have guessed people would be annoyed by a balkanized internet? =D |
| 18:21.04 | nooblark|work | ~seen imisu |
| 18:21.10 | purl | imisu <~iMisu@173-166-230-6-sacramento.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 11h 21m 59s ago, saying: 'anyone bored and wana help me with some triggers for about 30 min :D'. |
| 18:21.10 | Ahli | afk |
| 18:21.29 | nooblark|work | ... lol |
| 18:21.37 | twodie | ^^ |
| 18:21.40 | nooblark|work | all the trigger help he wanted |
| 18:21.46 | nooblark|work | I already did for him.. |
| 18:21.58 | nooblark|work | but I'm holding the map hostage. |
| 18:22.17 | nooblark|work | MUHAHA |
| 18:23.46 | Zolden | sell the map on black market |
| 18:23.59 | hobbidude | black market? |
| 18:24.01 | Zolden | near us/mexica border |
| 18:27.15 | hobbidude | how do i setup a requiremen to check if a unit has or doesn't have a behavoir |
| 18:27.29 | hobbidude | perferably doesn't have |
| 18:27.43 | Vail | there are a couple ways |
| 18:29.19 | hobbidude | im trying behavoir count but theres not place to put the number |
| 18:30.34 | Vail | you have to use equals with the count behavior and a constant |
| 18:31.45 | hobbidude | oh |
| 18:31.49 | hobbidude | right ty |
| 18:31.56 | hobbidude | got it just at the same time |
| 18:32.03 | Vail | heh |
| 18:32.49 | Dustin|Home | Yeah that expression system for those is pretty out there |
| 18:33.16 | hobbidude | now if i put this on a unit ability will it check only on that unit? |
| 18:33.33 | hobbidude | or is its total bahaviors in the map? |
| 18:34.12 | Dustin|Home | It should know to check the unit I think |
| 18:34.13 | Vail | if you use completed at unit |
| 18:34.20 | Dustin|Home | ^ |
| 18:34.28 | Zolden | randomly spamming posts on na forums |
| 18:37.01 | hobbidude | ~party |
| 18:37.02 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 18:39.42 | hobbidude | can anyone recommend a good impact model for a firelike shockwave? |
| 18:40.13 | hobbidude | closest i can see so far is the energy nova and the hsm |
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| 19:01.20 | Otixa | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-jN3vH26NQ |
| 19:01.24 | Otixa | ~party |
| 19:01.25 | purl | Woohoo! Bot on the loose! |
| 19:03.26 | Siretu | Woohoo! Editor crash |
| 19:03.29 | Siretu | :( |
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| 19:04.54 | sc2mapster | hi guys |
| 19:04.55 | JademusSreg | Woo. |
| 19:05.00 | sc2mapster | oops |
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| 19:05.26 | QueenG | hi guys |
| 19:05.34 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 19:05.58 | Siretu | I'm trying to texture swap a decal but I can only get it to work when basing it off the alive inside decal, which is fine |
| 19:06.14 | Siretu | But it causes my decal to fade in |
| 19:06.18 | Siretu | and be slightly transparent |
| 19:07.15 | mille25 | hey QueenG |
| 19:07.27 | QueenG | hey mille25 did you publish? |
| 19:07.34 | Siretu | Anyone knows how to remove the fading and slight transparency of the alive inside decal? |
| 19:07.36 | mille25 | not yet, but donations work now |
| 19:07.42 | mille25 | can we quickly switch to private chat? |
| 19:07.54 | QueenG | ok |
| 19:14.11 | Zolden | anyone wanna play my TD map on NA? |
| 19:15.31 | Dustin|Home | Sure if you wanna play my map after :D |
| 19:15.40 | Dustin|Home | Cause im not getting anyone to join atm :( |
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| 19:22.08 | eimtr | hey does any1 rememjber where can i tick the rotation when a unit cannot be rotated on the map? |
| 19:25.00 | JademusSreg | Toggle off turnable? |
| 19:29.48 | eimtr | i mean in the editor, i want to rotate destructable it doesnt have the rotation ive forgotten.. |
| 19:31.45 | JademusSreg | Are you asking what user input sets facing or how to enable rotation for the actor? |
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| 19:37.55 | eimtr | enable rotation |
| 19:38.15 | iMisu | Sucks when some one agrees to help you with a map, they start helping you then drop you like a rock and stuck with a map that is like 80% finished and you dont have the knowledge to finish the rest of what you need done :( |
| 19:38.18 | eimtr | ive forgotten in the data where do you enable it for units that dont wanna rotate in the editor |
| 19:38.40 | iMisu | I cant do triggers for the life of me. And I need help with like 3 triggers >.< |
| 19:39.08 | equinox1911_ | whats the projekt imisu ? |
| 19:39.27 | Siretu | eimtr, go to the unit and check "Turnable" in the "Unit: Flags +" field. |
| 19:39.33 | iMisu | bunkerwars type of map, |
| 19:39.45 | Otixa | homos |
| 19:39.47 | iMisu | I know the data editor well. But there is triggers left that I cant complete |
| 19:40.13 | iMisu | Everything functions well, for one player |
| 19:40.23 | JademusSreg | Editor: Editor Flags + Can Rotate and No Auto Rotate are related to doodad rotation. |
| 19:40.26 | iMisu | The dialogs are messed up because they are all shared for player 1 |
| 19:40.30 | JademusSreg | In actors. |
| 19:40.34 | iMisu | When player 2 clicks something, it all messes up |
| 19:40.37 | equinox1911_ | i know the triggers, but not data which im stuggling atm :D |
| 19:40.57 | iMisu | You mind helping ? |
| 19:41.09 | JademusSreg | You catch that eim? |
| 19:41.23 | JademusSreg | Also, <3 Otixa. |
| 19:41.26 | equinox1911_ | sure hit me with a patebinlink or somethin |
| 19:41.34 | Otixa | ;) |
| 19:41.42 | Otixa | Party pants, JademusSreg |
| 19:41.51 | equinox1911_ | *pastebin |
| 19:42.06 | JademusSreg | Yes. Black party pants. Slacks. Black party slacks, and everyone is invited. |
| 19:42.22 | eimtr | just wanted to click turnable cause i forgot where it's done thx.. |
| 19:42.24 | equinox1911_ | the diags might take work if they were not set up to be intended for more than one player though |
| 19:43.02 | Otixa | My insanity spreads like wildfire :D |
| 19:43.29 | Siretu | Anyone know a good model like the "Decal - Alive inside" that you can retexture easily? |
| 19:43.48 | Siretu | Or a way to make the alive inside model not fade in? |
| 19:43.49 | Otixa | Siretu, I can retexture your face! :D |
| 19:43.53 | JademusSreg | Most any splat? |
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| 19:45.16 | Siretu | Otixa, that's not very nice! |
| 19:45.28 | Otixa | cues drumroll |
| 19:45.38 | Otixa | Neither am I! :D |
| 19:46.08 | Siretu | JademusSreg, do you happen to know which slots to use to retexture them? It doesn't seem to work with main (which worked for the alive inside) |
| 19:46.19 | Vail | yes he is not very nice action, nice thinking or nice looking |
| 19:46.42 | Vail | acting* |
| 19:46.51 | Otixa | hits Vail |
| 19:46.55 | Bommes | Is there an option to hide specific regions in the editor? |
| 19:46.59 | Otixa | Only the first is true ;P |
| 19:47.02 | Bommes | I have a lot of preplaced regions and they are overlapping each other and stuff |
| 19:47.04 | Bommes | its a mess |
| 19:47.28 | JademusSreg | As I recall, the slots are rather arbitrary, so long as they don't conflict/overlap. |
| 19:47.51 | Otixa | smacks JademusSreg with a coffee mug |
| 19:47.54 | Otixa | COFFEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE |
| 19:48.00 | JademusSreg | Bom, you'd disable region visibility from the region layer. |
| 19:48.15 | Bommes | yeah but then I don't see any egions |
| 19:48.17 | Bommes | *regions |
| 19:48.21 | JademusSreg | I've been drinking energy drinks all day. |
| 19:48.22 | Bommes | I want to see some, but not others |
| 19:48.36 | Siretu | Hmm, turns out it wasn't actually working for the alive inside either. It just looked right in the editor but not in-game |
| 19:48.39 | JademusSreg | Pretty sure the option to disable specific ones are in there. |
| 19:48.40 | Otixa | D: |
| 19:48.49 | Vail | you can edit each region to show or not |
| 19:49.01 | Bommes | where? |
| 19:49.03 | Siretu | Right-click a region in the region list and uncheck "Show in editor" |
| 19:49.08 | Bommes | yeah I see the setting "Visible" in the list |
| 19:49.24 | Bommes | oh lol, thx |
| 19:49.27 | Bommes | how could I not see that |
| 19:49.33 | Bommes | I rightclicked like 10 times |
| 19:50.16 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 19:51.13 | Bommes | something is definitely wrong |
| 19:51.14 | Bommes | with my brain |
| 19:51.35 | JademusSreg | Have you considered starting/stopping recreational drug use? |
| 19:51.39 | Vail | you should get a tune up |
| 19:51.50 | Otixa | OH OH |
| 19:51.56 | Otixa | Can I have some meth? |
| 19:51.59 | Otixa | And water? |
| 19:52.11 | JademusSreg | Sure. |
| 19:52.12 | Dustin|Home | I got weed and water |
| 19:52.49 | Otixa | ;D |
| 19:52.55 | JademusSreg | It'll take a while to locate those guys living in those shacks deep in the mountains, but I'm certain they'd be willing to help you. |
| 19:53.24 | JademusSreg | I could give you directions. =D |
| 19:53.29 | *** part/#sc2mapster QueenG (18120ced@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.18.12.237) |
| 19:53.38 | JademusSreg | They enjoy when company just drops in. |
| 19:57.04 | Siretu | JademusSreg, it's complaining about "No mapping for slot main.diffuse." even though my model has a texture declaration for the slot "main" with the Trigger on Substring "_Diffuse" |
| 19:58.23 | JademusSreg | My apologies, I can't spare much time for a detailed walkthrough, but I do have a map where I demonstrate texture swapping, if you'd like to look at a working example. |
| 19:58.40 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/BossXelNagaAI.SC2Map |
| 19:58.45 | Siretu | Thank you |
| 19:59.01 | JademusSreg | Quite a few, actually. =D |
| 20:10.10 | twodie | who is taht Net_Creator? :/ |
| 20:11.30 | Zolden | another gay bot |
| 20:11.36 | Net_Creator | IRC tips: /whois, /ns info <nickname> to find out information about a particular person. |
| 20:11.36 | JademusSreg | Annoying, the editor still strips out custom token type tags. |
| 20:12.21 | JademusSreg | Such as type="CEffectLink" |
| 20:19.44 | JademusSreg | Yep, any that are modified get the token stripped out. =\ |
| 20:19.52 | JademusSreg | *token type |
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| 20:23.58 | Siretu | How do I know which prefix to use for texture select id+ |
| 20:24.00 | Siretu | How do I know which prefix to use for texture select id? |
| 20:24.25 | Siretu | I'm too used to Skype where the up arrow edits the message... |
| 20:24.36 | JademusSreg | Example? I can't dig through my own map right now. |
| 20:25.36 | Siretu | Texture Declarations have a prefix, like "colossus_" and "DarkShrine_" (from the map you linked) |
| 20:26.11 | Siretu | I tried doing the tutorial on sc2mapster from scratch and it only works if the prefix is correct("PrisonZealot_") |
| 20:26.46 | JademusSreg | iirc, it refers to the Textures to be targeted. Consider how else it would know what is being replaced. |
| 20:29.28 | Siretu | Okay, that's what I thought. I must be doing something else wrong then. |
| 20:32.45 | iMisu | jade |
| 20:32.55 | JademusSreg | ? |
| 20:32.59 | iMisu | can you give me 2 min of your time to test a dialog |
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| 20:33.13 | JademusSreg | Not until Monday. |
| 20:33.13 | iMisu | dont have to play just click dialog and leave in like 15 seconds |
| 20:33.14 | iMisu | lol |
| 20:33.35 | Siretu | According to the tutorial, it seems like the colossus' prefix is "colossus_" because the diffuse path is "colossus_diffuse.dds", which makes sense I guess. |
| 20:33.49 | JademusSreg | Yes, Siretu. |
| 20:34.01 | Siretu | But for some models, the diffuse path isn't that simple |
| 20:34.12 | JademusSreg | Si is a better abbreviated form. I'll use that. |
| 20:34.25 | Siretu | For example Protoss AOE cursor splat: Emissive = TargetingCursorX1.dds |
| 20:35.03 | JademusSreg | But yeah, that little issue can make things quite challenging when textures don't follow the convention. |
| 20:35.18 | iMisu | can anyone give me like 2 min of their time plz |
| 20:35.26 | Siretu | Sure |
| 20:35.28 | iMisu | north america |
| 20:35.31 | Siretu | Okay |
| 20:35.32 | iMisu | just quick dialog test |
| 20:35.37 | iMisu | misu.771 |
| 20:36.21 | iMisu | you on siretu ? |
| 20:36.35 | Siretu | Whispered you |
| 20:41.34 | iMisu | god im getting irritated with this fucking map |
| 20:43.50 | Dustin|Home | Lol so I was testing my map and this kid kept telling me things he thought I should do, and they were horrible ideas, and Id shoot each one down and he's be like, whatever. then tell me something else I should change lol |
| 20:44.21 | JademusSreg | I know the feeling. =D |
| 20:44.39 | iMisu | YOU SHOULD MAKE A HERO THAT DOES 1000000000 DAMAGE A SHOT |
| 20:44.42 | iMisu | BUT BUT BUT |
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| 20:45.31 | Siretu | Yeah, if I had a penny for every bad idea someone's given me... |
| 20:45.44 | JademusSreg | Mister Zealot is so strong and brave and he is doesn't afraid of anything. |
| 20:45.59 | Taintedwisp | Siretu, Invest 100k in waffles you wont regret it |
| 20:46.07 | JademusSreg | Captain Zealotron. |
| 20:46.08 | Taintedwisp | 2014 is the year of the waffle |
| 20:46.11 | Taintedwisp | they are down right now |
| 20:46.13 | Taintedwisp | INVEST |
| 20:46.14 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:46.15 | Siretu | Well, that's not a bad idea though |
| 20:46.17 | Siretu | So no penny for me |
| 20:46.36 | Taintedwisp | thats a terrible idea :P |
| 20:46.39 | iMisu | Has anyone really decided as to even go that far in wanting to do to look more like so |
| 20:46.47 | Taintedwisp | Any idea were someone tells you to invest over 50$ is a bad idea :P |
| 20:47.03 | Taintedwisp | what imisu? |
| 20:47.40 | Siretu | wat |
| 20:47.51 | iMisu | Thats what I think when some one gives me a shit idea. |
| 20:47.52 | JademusSreg | Make a trust and dictate it invest broadly in all end-of-life services. It will never fail. |
| 20:47.53 | iMisu | "Has anyone really decided as to even go that far in wanting to do to look more like so" |
| 20:47.54 | Taintedwisp | yo Vail , I am taking the Open Beta down for the moment, until I get the map from soulcarverr and do everything on my list of things to do |
| 20:48.35 | Taintedwisp | i'd invest in waffles -_- |
| 20:48.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 20:48.37 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 20:48.38 | JademusSreg | Of course, its rate of appreciation is such that it could only be a successful trust; your grandchildren will thank you. |
| 20:48.53 | Taintedwisp | JademusSreg, but you can never go wrong with waffles |
| 20:49.03 | Taintedwisp | thats a known fact |
| 20:49.10 | JademusSreg | Waffles are transient. Death is certain. |
| 20:49.17 | Taintedwisp | NO WAFFLES ARE ETERNAL!!!! |
| 20:49.41 | Taintedwisp | you only die once, you can eat waffles every day... |
| 20:49.43 | Taintedwisp | just sayin |
| 20:50.28 | Taintedwisp | AND!!! WE ARE BACK TO THIS http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0itOCgJtNVU |
| 20:50.46 | JademusSreg | Let's hope my amusing use of tokens doesn't crash the editor. |
| 20:50.49 | iMisu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fS1uDnIPTvo |
| 20:50.55 | iMisu | MUCH MORE ENJOYABLE |
| 20:52.58 | JademusSreg | Damn editor safety features. |
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| 20:55.00 | JademusSreg | Since the editor now checks the validity of actor messages, I can't use token expressions in them, goddamnit. |
| 20:56.02 | Zolden | JademusSreg: you make me feel noob |
| 20:56.07 | Zolden | what's token expressions? |
| 20:56.09 | Zolden | example? |
| 20:56.34 | JademusSreg | It's what allows "implicit linking", where fields are initialized to values based on the id of the data entry. |
| 20:57.36 | JademusSreg | So when you, say, make a new Apply Behavior effect with the id Fucktacular, the field Effect : Behavior automatically links to a behavior with the id Fucktacular if one exists. |
| 20:58.10 | Zolden | yea |
| 20:58.17 | Otixa | noob. |
| 20:58.20 | JademusSreg | That's because nearly all the Core entries from which all others inherit use ##id## token expressions. |
| 20:59.23 | Zolden | oh |
| 20:59.35 | JademusSreg | One can add tokens via the data editor's standard interface, or via XML, and at least via XML you can define the token type. |
| 20:59.55 | Otixa | SeXML |
| 21:00.27 | JademusSreg | <?token id="fadeIn" value="0.000000"?> would enable the token expression ##fadeIn## to be used. |
| 21:00.56 | Otixa | But... |
| 21:01.09 | Otixa | ...But that's not valid XML >:C |
| 21:01.38 | JademusSreg | Perhaps they have a magic schema? |
| 21:01.59 | Otixa | holds back caffeine withdrawal urges |
| 21:02.05 | Otixa | ...Perhaps. |
| 21:03.52 | Zolden | JademusSreg: does this mean that tokens are useful now? |
| 21:03.58 | Zolden | *useless |
| 21:04.31 | JademusSreg | Anyway, Zol, inheritence and tokens make SC2 data much easier to work with; if you notice yourself making much of the same shit the same way, you can save a lot of trouble by making a parent, defining a token or two. |
| 21:04.36 | Kubi | ~seen Blizz-Deletarius |
| 21:04.42 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 4d 4h 58m ago, saying: 'adios'. |
| 21:04.44 | JademusSreg | They've been useful since SC2's beta. |
| 21:05.09 | JademusSreg | Which is to say, they've never not been useful. =D |
| 21:05.30 | Zolden | JademusSreg: ok, i got how tokens work now |
| 21:05.35 | JademusSreg | Kubi, I'll show you some stuff in a bit. |
| 21:05.53 | JademusSreg | Want to clean up the data a bit. |
| 21:12.03 | Taintedwisp | ~seen DogmaipublishTofuWithoutFailing |
| 21:12.04 | purl | i haven't seen 'dogmaipublishtofuwithoutfailing', Taintedwisp |
| 21:12.16 | Taintedwisp | makes sense |
| 21:16.22 | Taintedwisp | JademusSreg, quit being such a hateful prson :( have a heart.,... |
| 21:16.24 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 21:16.40 | JademusSreg | Don't see good that would do. |
| 21:18.59 | Taintedwisp | scrooge mcduck.... |
| 21:19.03 | Taintedwisp | :D |
| 21:19.09 | Taintedwisp | so what you up to jademus |
| 21:19.13 | JademusSreg | Quack. |
| 21:19.31 | Taintedwisp | you cant just be running around quacking wherever you like sir |
| 21:20.03 | JademusSreg | Orly? |
| 21:22.14 | Taintedwisp | for serious |
| 21:22.18 | Taintedwisp | and trule |
| 21:37.33 | Taintedwisp | DONTCHA WANNA COME A LOVE ME SEXY!!! |
| 21:37.57 | Taintedwisp | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3jwjS3Ee_SM |
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| 21:46.38 | Taintedwisp | SOOOO DISCOURAGING!!!... this computer cant handle non melee games -_- |
| 21:46.44 | Taintedwisp | I cant even play a full game of my own map.. |
| 21:47.28 | Taintedwisp | PIECE OF SHIT BLIZZARD.... fuck... why did they only support dual core.... WHEN QUAD CORES WERE ALREADY OUT FOR A WHILE... |
| 21:47.37 | Taintedwisp | they wanted this game to last 10 years... |
| 21:47.57 | Taintedwisp | how is it going ot when you start it out so it only works on outdated... |
| 21:50.18 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: cmon, let me show you my td map |
| 21:50.33 | Taintedwisp | I cant play any maps that use many units -_- |
| 21:50.40 | Taintedwisp | because blizzard is a fucking idiot |
| 21:50.41 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 21:50.42 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 21:50.45 | Taintedwisp | good to let that out.. |
| 21:51.05 | Taintedwisp | sooo pissed, I cant even play my own map without a total lag fest.. |
| 21:51.54 | Taintedwisp | and its not the map -_- nor the computer, its the engine... the crappy crappy engine, that supports only 8 textures, 256 x 256 maps, 4 Terrain levels -_-... shall I continue.. |
| 21:52.23 | Siretu | Yes please. Since those issues are not even slightly related to your lag problem. |
| 21:52.33 | Taintedwisp | The engine is the problem |
| 21:52.40 | Taintedwisp | Because its not utilized for multicore computers |
| 21:52.49 | Taintedwisp | Single core and dual core, it doesnt use over dual.. |
| 21:53.33 | Taintedwisp | People with WORSE computers can play the same maps with less problems.. |
| 21:53.34 | Vindicator | tainted: the initial development of the engine was during years when quad cores weren't available to the public |
| 21:53.43 | Siretu | So do you have any proof for this? I mean, I can run SC2 fine on a very bad laptop |
| 21:53.46 | Zolden | so, that Range actor shows that range circle, right? |
| 21:53.46 | Siretu | even with a lot of units |
| 21:54.08 | Siretu | It seems like it's just your computer that is bad |
| 21:54.10 | Siretu | Not the engine |
| 21:54.24 | Vindicator | well, he is right, it doesn't use multi-core as well as it could |
| 21:54.40 | Vindicator | but it's not because blizz is dumb, it's because they couldn't support what wasn't yet released |
| 21:54.46 | Siretu | You can rage all you want, complaining about the engine and the lack of multi-core support, but the fact is that the game can play well on a lot of computers as long as they're not very bad. |
| 21:56.11 | Taintedwisp | No Siretu, the thing is.... WORSE Computers play it just fine, I am on a 1.6 Ghz Quad core so only 2 cores means bear minimum... On a Pentium 4 3.2 Ghz Computer, with a 512 MB video and 2 GB ram, it plays without an issue though -_- |
| 21:56.28 | Taintedwisp | this computer is 1.6 Quad, with a 2 GB of Video Ram, and 6 GB ram... |
| 21:56.58 | Taintedwisp | Vindicator Quad Core computers were out 2-3 years before Sc2 :P |
| 21:57.11 | Vindicator | right, but the game was in development prior to that |
| 21:57.15 | Taintedwisp | They were becoming the normal in 2010 |
| 21:57.34 | Taintedwisp | yeah thats true, but its still annoying that they havent utilized it for HoTS... |
| 21:58.16 | Vindicator | it's a complete remake of the core of the game. it's the single most demanding task they could probably take on |
| 21:58.23 | Siretu | Do you know what needs to be done to change it? |
| 21:58.29 | Siretu | What he said |
| 21:58.31 | Taintedwisp | nope not a clue ahah |
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| 21:59.02 | Siretu | So, do you understand now why they haven't done it? |
| 21:59.02 | Taintedwisp | still its just a bit annoying -_-... you make a map for a year and learn you cant play it.. |
| 21:59.39 | Siretu | Also, my computer utilizes all 4 cores while playing SC2 |
| 22:00.04 | Vindicator | siretu: the windows task manager is misleading in that regard |
| 22:00.18 | Siretu | I wouldn't be surprised. |
| 22:00.41 | Vindicator | it appears like you are, but if you look closely, ur CPU won't pass 25% from sc2 alone, all 4 core's usage will equial 25% (the equivalent of 1 core) |
| 22:01.33 | Vindicator | can't explain any more than that, and i heard what tainted did about it only supporting dual core, but honestly, to me, it appears to only do the equivalent of a single core and not even dual. i guess the idea is that |
| 22:01.53 | Vindicator | if you are running multiple things, then dual core will outperform single core when running sc2, so maybe that was the idea |
| 22:02.17 | Siretu | Core temp also shows it utilizing all cores |
| 22:02.33 | Siretu | at an average of 50% per core |
| 22:02.50 | Vindicator | can i see screenshot |
| 22:03.02 | Vindicator | and do u have AMD or intel? |
| 22:03.20 | Siretu | 95 3570k |
| 22:03.26 | Siretu | i5* |
| 22:03.36 | Siretu | I'll get a screenshot in a minute |
| 22:03.46 | Zolden | guys, I have a Build abil |
| 22:03.51 | Zolden | it builds turrets |
| 22:04.02 | Zolden | I want to show a Range actor |
| 22:04.11 | Zolden | Around the turret i'm trying to place |
| 22:04.17 | Zolden | not around the builder |
| 22:04.29 | Vindicator | i think u can do it with a behavior on the turret, but not positive |
| 22:04.31 | Zolden | how to attach it to placement cursor instead of builder? |
| 22:04.44 | Vindicator | oh, i dunno about the cursor off the top of my head =/ |
| 22:04.51 | Zolden | when I place turret, there is no turret, just builder and cursor |
| 22:12.42 | Repo | Updated wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Actors - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/actors/ |
| 22:12.51 | Siretu | Oh right |
| 22:12.54 | Siretu | The image |
| 22:14.00 | Vail | zolder what are you trying to do? |
| 22:14.25 | Vail | show the range of a turret being placed? |
| 22:17.50 | Siretu | http://i.imgur.com/HClM5ul.jpg |
| 22:17.59 | Siretu | It's a bit higher here |
| 22:18.09 | Siretu | But I had a lot of other stuff on at the same time |
| 22:18.51 | Vail | Zolden ahem sorry for getting your name wrong the first time |
| 22:19.01 | Vail | i know how to place a range actor around a turret |
| 22:19.05 | Vail | being placed |
| 22:19.10 | Zolden | ok |
| 22:19.24 | Zolden | now it creates range around build cursor |
| 22:19.30 | Zolden | but range doesn't follow cursor |
| 22:20.16 | Vail | are you creating the range actor through the placenemnt actor? |
| 22:20.27 | Vail | rather the placement model actor |
| 22:20.41 | Zolden | I just created Range actor |
| 22:20.59 | Zolden | Set Abil.build.Cursor -> create event |
| 22:21.23 | Zolden | it create one around cursor, but it doesn't follow the cursor |
| 22:21.47 | Zolden | how should I do this do u think? |
| 22:22.43 | Vail | create the range actor then edit the placement model actor to have your turret and then on its creation of your turret model create the range actor like the missile turret |
| 22:23.42 | Zolden | wait, missile turret has range around it when we place it? |
| 22:24.11 | Vail | it does in the campaign not sure about MP though |
| 22:24.46 | Vail | yes it appears too |
| 22:25.33 | Zolden | what's placement model actor? |
| 22:26.24 | Vail | as near as i can tell it exists to create the ranges on the missile turret and photon cannon |
| 22:26.38 | Vail | it also does some model swaping for the placements |
| 22:28.16 | Vail | atleast in the campaign it model swaps i believe |
| 22:28.44 | Zolden | yea, found one placement model actor |
| 22:28.55 | Zolden | trying to understand how does it work |
| 22:29.13 | Zolden | how do I connect placement model with my build abil and with my Range actor? |
| 22:30.27 | Zolden | oh, found something |
| 22:30.39 | Zolden | yea |
| 22:30.43 | Zolden | looks like i got it |
| 22:30.47 | Zolden | lemme jsut try |
| 22:30.50 | Vail | ok |
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| 22:34.54 | Zolden | Vail: wow, it worked, ty! |
| 22:35.03 | Vail | welcome |
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| 22:40.11 | Triceron | Hey all |
| 22:40.45 | Zolden | hey |
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| 22:50.29 | Taintedwisp | Bout time We are getting some damn snow |
| 22:53.04 | Repo | New wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Actors / Type / Splat - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/actors/type/splat/ |
| 22:54.14 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: finally! |
| 22:54.17 | Zolden | u deserved it! |
| 22:54.20 | Taintedwisp | lolo |
| 22:56.21 | Taintedwisp | BOATS AND HOES |
| 22:56.22 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:56.31 | Taintedwisp | Hey Zolden are you good with Photoshop? |
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| 23:07.38 | Triceron | Question about mover animations - do they work like units? like do they use Walk animation? |
| 23:08.45 | JademusSreg | I'm not certain. |
| 23:09.12 | JademusSreg | Haven't bothered to use them for non projectiles. |
| 23:09.27 | Triceron | well I meant for projectiles |
| 23:09.55 | Triceron | not sure how animations are handled, if it just plays whatever is there or if I have to define it |
| 23:09.56 | Ahli | they have their actor, so I think so |
| 23:09.57 | JademusSreg | I assume there is a fallback, at the very least. |
| 23:10.25 | JademusSreg | And unit actors define baseline animations. |
| 23:17.53 | JademusSreg | Time to drink booze. |
| 23:17.55 | JademusSreg | bbl |
| 23:19.28 | Taintedwisp | fuck off |
| 23:19.29 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:19.52 | Ahli | already had my booze :D |
| 23:21.02 | Zolden | Tainted, yea, i know something |
| 23:23.27 | JademusSreg | (I have booze; I'm going to have my booze with company.) |
| 23:24.10 | Dustin|Home | oh I ahve booze |
| 23:24.56 | JademusSreg | Try not burn the place down while I'm gone, person who know who it is. |
| 23:25.52 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 23:26.13 | Taintedwisp | Zolden you wanna take a crack at making me a GOOD dialog frame for my maps dialogs? |
| 23:30.16 | Repo | New wiki entry: Galaxy / Data / Actors / Token - http://www.sc2mapster.com/wiki/galaxy/data/actors/token/ |
| 23:33.20 | Taintedwisp | Zolden is a token :P |
| 23:38.18 | A1win | so hmm... how do I make a channeled ability where the unit that's channeling just stands still, and if ordered to do anything else, stops channeling |
| 23:38.33 | Taintedwisp | Validator |
| 23:38.37 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:39.00 | Taintedwisp | You have to validate the ability so the persistant doesnt keep going if the unit moved |
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| 23:44.54 | A1win | do people have any smart conventions about naming data object IDs, like some kind of a prefix or something to make it clear that they are custom data objects and not from the dependencies? |
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| 23:51.13 | Taintedwisp | hey Zelda |
| 23:51.40 | A1win | what validator I can use to check if the unit was given another order? |
| 23:51.43 | Taintedwisp | a1win, not really haha |
| 23:51.48 | Taintedwisp | Most people just click suggest |
| 23:51.52 | Taintedwisp | you have to create a validator |
| 23:51.53 | Taintedwisp | 1 sec |
| 23:52.13 | A1win | I know what validators are ;p just not sure which type I should be using |
| 23:52.59 | A1win | and should it be periodic validator for the presistent? |
| 23:53.26 | Taintedwisp | CRAP |
| 23:53.31 | Taintedwisp | Thats why mine is broken.. |
| 23:53.32 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:53.37 | Taintedwisp | Its 2 vailidators |
| 23:53.45 | Taintedwisp | I forget the first one but the other is a combine |
| 23:54.31 | Taintedwisp | The other is a unit order |
| 23:54.35 | Taintedwisp | USe the move ability |
| 23:55.23 | Taintedwisp | Then Put it into the combine Vailidator and set negate to enabled, I THINK NOT 100% its been a couple months |
| 23:55.24 | A1win | but what if it's ordered to do something else than move? ;p |
| 23:55.33 | Taintedwisp | I dunno haha |
| 23:55.43 | Taintedwisp | Uhh Vail you there? |
| 23:55.51 | Taintedwisp | vailreth is the one that told me sooo maybe he knows |
| 23:55.55 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: I could try |
| 23:55.55 | Taintedwisp | i think it was him |
| 23:55.56 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:56.00 | Zolden | but i'll suck probably |
| 23:56.04 | Taintedwisp | its been a little bit haha |
| 23:56.30 | Taintedwisp | ahh |
| 23:56.40 | Taintedwisp | Yeah I just want something good :P the blizzard Default ones are over used |
| 23:56.51 | Taintedwisp | and I want this map to be WoL compatable |
| 23:57.35 | Zolden | there won't be wol anymore soon |
| 23:57.43 | A1win | oh |
| 23:57.49 | Zolden | my start window dlding it yet |
| 23:58.01 | A1win | Taintedwisp, I don't need to do anything :P it's interruptible by default |
| 23:58.14 | Taintedwisp | oh okay :P |
| 23:59.12 | A1win | or I think... |
| 23:59.22 | A1win | I have Persist Until Destroyed on the persistent |
| 23:59.53 | A1win | the ability on the command card gets "stuck" just like it should, and then unstucks when I give a new order... but I'm not sure if the actual effect is destroyed |
