| 00:00.02 | Bommes | the static kinda fits though imo :D |
| 00:00.09 | Vailreth | hm |
| 00:00.11 | Bommes | I like it |
| 00:00.14 | JademusSreg | All I ask is new content, new places, new questlines, new things to massacre. |
| 00:00.15 | Daara | maybe a bit but it's a little to sharp |
| 00:00.15 | Ousnius | the vinyl crack? |
| 00:00.19 | JademusSreg | Is that so much to ask? |
| 00:00.19 | Daara | yea |
| 00:00.24 | Ousnius | I added it on purpose |
| 00:01.25 | Daara | other than that i like them both |
| 00:01.46 | Ousnius | alright |
| 00:01.53 | Ousnius | gotta get something 100% done ;_; |
| 00:03.01 | Triceron | Zolden, you ever get the issue where vertices get stretched off into space? |
| 00:03.28 | Ousnius | can somebody tell me what the HotS preorder boni are? |
| 00:03.33 | Triceron | though I think this issue is prolly cuz of the rig I'm using |
| 00:03.52 | nooblark | how do i access that dialog maker ui thing that is in the editor? |
| 00:03.53 | Triceron | there are no preorder bonuses other than beta |
| 00:03.59 | Daara | like infinite space triceron? |
| 00:04.13 | Triceron | like they just get pulled off into a direction, sometimes infinite |
| 00:04.17 | Ousnius | k thanks <.< |
| 00:04.27 | Daara | i had that happen with the water elemental model |
| 00:04.46 | Daara | the arm just has vertices just shoot off in a direction that goes on infinitely |
| 00:04.56 | JademusSreg | I enjoy these journeys through brooding ambience, Ous. It also reinforces the position that I have no grasp of musical genre. =D |
| 00:04.58 | Daara | doesn't appear like that in 3ds max |
| 00:05.03 | Triceron | yeah that's what I'm using actually |
| 00:05.08 | Triceron | okay so it's not me with the elemental too |
| 00:05.09 | Daara | LOL |
| 00:05.26 | Daara | i'm glad i wasn't the only one too |
| 00:05.33 | Daara | that pissed me off for quite some time |
| 00:05.53 | Triceron | did you fix it? |
| 00:06.02 | Daara | i also have a few models, namely my peon that has parts of the mesh shrink during animations in game |
| 00:06.03 | Daara | nope |
| 00:06.06 | Triceron | http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v293/Triceron/ElementalError_zps6740a095.jpg cuz that's all messed up :S |
| 00:06.07 | Vailreth | ok Taintedwisp, and anyone else i have a quick and dirty and likely poorly triggered proof of concept |
| 00:06.13 | Vailreth | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25150886/test%20bar.SC2Map |
| 00:06.15 | Triceron | I tried reweighting it to one bone, still messes up |
| 00:06.21 | Daara | thats exactly how mine looked |
| 00:06.23 | Vailreth | brb while i go see abot dinner |
| 00:06.29 | JademusSreg | You need testers, Vail? |
| 00:07.08 | Vailreth | no testers really i could use comments still im not so good with triggers and would like to stream line the idea if possible |
| 00:07.20 | nooblark | what is it |
| 00:07.47 | Vailreth | the map has a dialog in the top left corner that has a graphic you can extend by pressing w and shrink with s |
| 00:08.01 | Daara | there's only one thing that i didn't try because i didn't know about it then |
| 00:08.08 | Daara | did you import it with vertex normals off? |
| 00:08.10 | Vailreth | the idea is to use it for a resource bar of sorts |
| 00:08.45 | nooblark | so keypress, set width to x |
| 00:08.52 | Ousnius | can somebody link me to HotS editor changes? I kinda lost track about starcraft stuff |
| 00:08.53 | nooblark | different keypress set it to y |
| 00:08.54 | Vailreth | instead of using a solid texture i am using three textures that form a box when super imposed |
| 00:09.09 | Daara | Oh, and if you're thinking about brining in a Cow, Pig, Rat, or Owl Triceron...those can't be imported into 3ds max, they are broken. |
| 00:09.36 | Daara | something wrong with their bind pose, if i remember correctly |
| 00:09.46 | JademusSreg | Vail, if I may jest, y u no check key state from persistent thread? |
| 00:09.50 | Taintedwisp | okay cool |
| 00:10.27 | Vailreth | the key pressing is just a quick and dirty interactivty |
| 00:10.56 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 00:11.02 | Vailreth | i need to rework the middle block or make more of them but thats a graphics issue |
| 00:11.10 | Taintedwisp | I mean I see what your getting at, but... I dunno how I would make that look good |
| 00:11.49 | Vailreth | well the graphic would have to be better i just shat that out of photoshop in about five minutes |
| 00:11.55 | JademusSreg | It works. =D |
| 00:12.24 | Triceron | hmm, good to know. I don't think I'll be needing the critters tho |
| 00:12.36 | Vailreth | thanks. |
| 00:12.41 | Triceron | but I do want to use that new bat model they have in WoW 5.2, mmmm |
| 00:12.45 | Vailreth | now off to see about dinner. |
| 00:13.50 | Triceron | oh and vertex normals shouldn't affect how the elemental is exported. I have a feeling it's an error with bones. |
| 00:13.56 | Daara | the only way to use the cow, pig, rat, or owl is to just import it into sc2 using .tga files =\ |
| 00:14.11 | Daara | if you fix it, let me know i really want that model lol |
| 00:14.29 | Daara | hard to have a summon water elemental ability without a fucking water elemental lol |
| 00:14.48 | Triceron | agreed |
| 00:15.08 | Daara | if it were less noticeable i won't mind |
| 00:15.16 | Daara | wouldn't* |
| 00:15.37 | Daara | but you can see it accross the map lol |
| 00:15.48 | Triceron | have you tried using the blender tools for it? |
| 00:16.02 | Triceron | maybe it imports it differently |
| 00:16.14 | Taintedwisp | Your Precious Blender still can http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg |
| 00:16.16 | Taintedwisp | cant* |
| 00:16.59 | Daara | no i haven't |
| 00:18.11 | Triceron | actually nm, it wouldn't work anyways. The issue comes from the .m3 conversion from the WoW model viewer |
| 00:19.15 | Daara | just added this one |
| 00:19.16 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/StormwindMageTower_zpsdcbe34d0.jpg |
| 00:19.22 | Daara | finally got the textures to appear correctly |
| 00:19.48 | Daara | some models are easy to do |
| 00:19.54 | Daara | other's are just a pain in the ass |
| 00:20.08 | Taintedwisp | My latest Re-Texture http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain020_zps1bd16450.jpg |
| 00:20.58 | Daara | have to export that as a .wmo, convert it into max script, then apply all the textures to each polygon. In the case of this one, it came into max with some other weird mesh surrounding it. So i had to delete that. And all of the uvmaps were upside down -_- |
| 00:21.34 | Daara | then when i finally got it into sc2, the texture offesets were all fucked up |
| 00:22.38 | Zolden | Triceron: I saw it once when imported wow model |
| 00:22.52 | Zolden | one of the vertices fas somwhere in the infinity |
| 00:22.55 | Triceron | yeah |
| 00:23.04 | Triceron | I don't know how to fix that |
| 00:23.05 | Daara | do you remember which one zolden? |
| 00:23.11 | JademusSreg | Modeler who worked with me on PC had similar problems with shifting textures. |
| 00:23.25 | Daara | yea it's annoying jade... |
| 00:23.31 | Daara | spent the last 2 hours adjusting them |
| 00:23.35 | Daara | had it happen on another model too |
| 00:23.49 | Zolden | i remember somhow I fixed it |
| 00:23.57 | Zolden | removed the vertex |
| 00:24.01 | Zolden | or moved it back |
| 00:24.03 | Triceron | are you recreating Stormwind Daara? |
| 00:24.06 | Zolden | but don't remember how |
| 00:24.07 | Daara | no |
| 00:24.11 | Daara | just making a badass city :D |
| 00:24.14 | Daara | i'll do the same for orcs |
| 00:24.19 | Triceron | ahh |
| 00:24.25 | Daara | granting humans have more awesome structures |
| 00:24.25 | Zolden | oh, now I remember |
| 00:24.40 | Triceron | I like the style of the new Orgrimmar |
| 00:24.48 | Daara | i like the old style better |
| 00:24.52 | Triceron | the giant black metal gate looks awesome |
| 00:24.59 | Zolden | selecting the mesh, pressing 4, selecting the meshes adjusting the remote vertex and removing them fixes it |
| 00:26.19 | Daara | i see orcs more as warriors than someone worried about architecture |
| 00:26.24 | Zolden | Daara: coty is great, but misses something |
| 00:26.45 | Daara | lol |
| 00:26.50 | Daara | don't say it! |
| 00:27.17 | Zolden | :) |
| 00:27.29 | Daara | i have all the max files in a folder |
| 00:27.39 | Daara | when i'm done if you want to do a million normals you can |
| 00:28.24 | Daara | 384 max files |
| 00:28.30 | Triceron | haha |
| 00:28.32 | Daara | and i haven't even started on orcs yet |
| 00:28.34 | Triceron | don't forget spec maps! |
| 00:28.40 | Triceron | :P |
| 00:28.50 | Zolden | yea, sounds perfect |
| 00:28.51 | Daara | i'm wrapping up humans pretty soon |
| 00:29.00 | Zolden | said with a great enthusiasm in voice |
| 00:29.01 | Daara | got about 5-10 more models i want |
| 00:29.16 | Daara | these ones are all going to be a pain in the ass though |
| 00:29.27 | Daara | can't export them as .obj |
| 00:30.25 | Triceron | why not? |
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| 00:35.05 | Daara | it crashes the model viewer |
| 00:35.29 | Daara | as do most .wmo files |
| 00:37.43 | Daara | only way to do is to export it as a .wmo and have that turned into a scrip max can read |
| 00:37.55 | Daara | max imports it as a single mesh with no textures |
| 00:39.58 | JademusSreg | Have the art tools been released to a select few? =D |
| 00:42.14 | Daara | i haven't gotten it |
| 00:42.28 | Daara | it should be released to everyone who asked |
| 00:42.33 | Daara | i mean theres what? 50 ppl? |
| 00:42.39 | JademusSreg | That would sure be swell. |
| 00:44.24 | JademusSreg | Don't forget the Russians and Ukrainians, Daar; there's legions of modelers in those parts, if the sites where I regularly see enormous volume of highly detailed models in a language I cannot read are right. |
| 00:50.19 | Bommes | I feel trolled by captchas |
| 01:00.32 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain021_zpsbb5cf408.jpg |
| 01:00.37 | Bommes | Is there a way to organize large action definitions in the trigger editor by putting an amount of actions in folders or something? |
| 01:00.53 | Dustin|Home | yes |
| 01:00.55 | Bommes | Just as an visual indicator which actions belong together so it doesn't get messy |
| 01:01.00 | Bommes | I don't want to make new action definitions just for that |
| 01:01.23 | Bommes | how? |
| 01:02.28 | Dustin|Home | they are called something weird |
| 01:02.29 | Zolden | lol |
| 01:02.32 | Ahli | do you mean making like groups that you can collapse into one function? |
| 01:02.41 | Dustin|Home | ^ |
| 01:02.46 | Ahli | I speak gibberish |
| 01:02.49 | Dustin|Home | tell him about thme |
| 01:02.55 | Dustin|Home | them |
| 01:03.02 | Zolden | art tools thread wasn't posted on russian blizz forum |
| 01:03.04 | Dustin|Home | I cant remember and dont have my editor open |
| 01:03.06 | Zolden | only on eu europe |
| 01:03.08 | Ahli | added in hots, forgot how they are called, but they should be in general |
| 01:03.18 | Zolden | and there are only 2 or 3 russians opted it |
| 01:04.05 | Zolden | and russian sc2 community is poor in terms of modelling |
| 01:04.28 | Zolden | i saw no models there except some wow with remade textures |
| 01:04.50 | Zolden | so JademusSreg legions of russian and ukrainian modellers is probably a fiction |
| 01:05.35 | Taintedwisp | Russians are too cold :P gotta worrie more about heat then models |
| 01:05.38 | Taintedwisp | :)) |
| 01:11.06 | Taintedwisp | And everyone is silent :( |
| 01:20.42 | Zolden | your ass is silent |
| 01:20.59 | Triceron | ohhh, burn |
| 01:22.06 | Hati | dunno if insult or funny |
| 01:22.14 | JademusSreg | This during the WC3 days, I recall, massive ports of Dawn of War and World of Warcraft models on russian sites. =D |
| 01:23.17 | JademusSreg | The sites looked like you might contract syphillis from them. |
| 01:23.28 | JademusSreg | *syphilis |
| 01:24.28 | Zolden | lol yea |
| 01:24.51 | Zolden | and there is still a visible activity in wow forums |
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| 01:25.50 | Taintedwisp | WoW is for SCRUBS I SAY SCRUBS!!! |
| 01:28.01 | JademusSreg | Well, almost by definition, someone must be paying for it, so the meaning as derived from the TLC song is not entirely consistent with this assertion. |
| 01:28.33 | Zolden | hmm, doesn't look like "ppl near you" is implemented in the actual hots version |
| 01:28.43 | Zolden | or i have no one near me |
| 01:28.53 | JademusSreg | Hahaha. Lonely. |
| 01:28.58 | Daara | haha |
| 01:29.05 | Daara | me too :c |
| 01:29.24 | Daara | fucking girlfriend has been "unavailable" the last like 10 days |
| 01:29.27 | Daara | pissing me off |
| 01:30.55 | JademusSreg | enters a super-position of states, jocular and sincere simultaneously. |
| 01:31.16 | Daara | o.o |
| 01:31.55 | Daara | this is the next one i'm doing triceron |
| 01:31.56 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Triceron_zps48e5d810.jpg |
| 01:32.07 | Daara | this is how it comes into max |
| 01:32.09 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/Triceron2_zpsbf03b792.jpg |
| 01:33.03 | Daara | have to keep the model viewer up as a guide |
| 01:33.04 | Zolden | just use one tiny white32.dds as specular and set spseccularity to something > 0, it will look ok, cince you use smoothing |
| 01:33.53 | Daara | this one did it too |
| 01:34.07 | Daara | created some weird parts of the mesh that cover the real normal one |
| 01:39.29 | Daara | looks like it doubled up too |
| 01:39.37 | Daara | created 2 of everything lol |
| 01:39.41 | Daara | yay! |
| 01:39.49 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 01:50.26 | Daara | oh yea |
| 01:50.28 | Daara | best thing |
| 01:50.37 | Daara | is once i finally get everything fixed and textured |
| 01:50.40 | Daara | i have to export it |
| 01:50.53 | Daara | reimport it with vertex normals unchecked |
| 01:50.59 | Daara | and texture it again -_- |
| 01:51.13 | Daara | it's easier the 2nd time around though cause it's not just 1 mesh |
| 01:54.11 | Daara | and all the maps are upside down :D |
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| 02:07.53 | Ahli | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pUBk5Jtapo&feature=youtu.be |
| 02:23.30 | Ousnius | man I always wanna continue working on my map |
| 02:24.06 | Ousnius | but my lazy level is higher than the motivation one |
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| 02:33.12 | Ahli | http://snag.gy/kN1CS.jpg bnet, why are you so.... special? |
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| 02:38.03 | Taintedwisp | Daara quick data question, if I have a search area of 500, would that target everyunit in the map that falls into the search filter, and if so will it create an lag? |
| 02:38.31 | Daara | no shouldn't create lag |
| 02:38.33 | Daara | it's like an aura |
| 02:39.02 | Taintedwisp | okay thanks |
| 02:39.13 | JademusSreg | Awesome Ahli. =D |
| 02:39.14 | Taintedwisp | I have just never done such a large Search area :P |
| 02:39.53 | Daara | depends really on what it does |
| 02:40.31 | Daara | if it were like mothership cloak |
| 02:40.37 | Daara | and did like 500 units at one |
| 02:40.39 | Daara | once* |
| 02:40.41 | Daara | might cause lag lol |
| 02:42.45 | Ousnius | is the unit takes damage event still causing lag? |
| 02:43.16 | Daara | not a good event to use |
| 02:43.30 | Daara | especially in maps that have large amounts of units |
| 02:43.36 | Taintedwisp | Daara how about 225 units? |
| 02:43.41 | Taintedwisp | That would be the max it could hit |
| 02:43.44 | Daara | what does it do to them? |
| 02:43.54 | Taintedwisp | Apply a bufff |
| 02:44.07 | Daara | just applies a behavior? |
| 02:44.10 | Taintedwisp | yup |
| 02:44.14 | Taintedwisp | the behavior will do the rest |
| 02:44.16 | Daara | does the behavior do anythign with actors? |
| 02:44.29 | Taintedwisp | Dunno yet |
| 02:44.31 | Taintedwisp | maybe |
| 02:44.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 02:44.37 | Daara | should be fine then |
| 02:44.54 | Taintedwisp | The most it would do would be create a small colored Pylon splat |
| 02:57.37 | Ousnius | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=JQc46vuf |
| 02:57.59 | Ousnius | any better way to do this? I don't like the event that's going on there |
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| 03:02.41 | Taintedwisp | Yo daara, how do I increase damage by mutiplier? |
| 03:04.45 | Daara | in Behvarior Modification + |
| 03:04.50 | Daara | behavior* |
| 03:04.53 | Daara | in the combat tab |
| 03:06.06 | Taintedwisp | nvm |
| 03:06.08 | Taintedwisp | I found it |
| 03:06.13 | Taintedwisp | Cant believe i missed that :P |
| 03:06.16 | Taintedwisp | I was looking all over |
| 03:06.16 | Taintedwisp | haha |
| 03:06.20 | Taintedwisp | It says fraction |
| 03:07.26 | Ousnius | ^ any ideas? it's almost the last bit of perfection my systems need for now |
| 03:11.31 | Daara | i'm not one to ask for that :P |
| 03:11.41 | Daara | jademus might be able to assist you |
| 03:12.55 | Ousnius | yo JademusSreg :P |
| 03:18.58 | Taintedwisp | I have got to quit doing this.... :P |
| 03:19.07 | Taintedwisp | I keep thinking up last second ideas.. |
| 03:19.21 | Taintedwisp | Right now I am making 5 global buff abilities for players to buy from an enhancement dome :P |
| 03:19.33 | Taintedwisp | They buff all units taht are alive |
| 03:19.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 03:25.32 | JademusSreg | Hi thar. |
| 03:26.25 | JademusSreg | From that trigger, it seems you want to prevent units from firing through cliffs, yes? |
| 03:26.43 | Ousnius | and pathing yeah |
| 03:26.57 | Ousnius | works like a charm, but still |
| 03:27.35 | JademusSreg | Hm. I use data-driven collision projectiles, personally, but I'll think about it, see if there is a more elegant solution. |
| 03:28.09 | Ousnius | I use data-driven collision projectiles too |
| 03:28.40 | JademusSreg | The data solution isn't terribly elegant either, I should mention, but it is a rewarding accomplishment. =D |
| 03:29.40 | Ousnius | but let's say an hostile unit is chilling behind a building or a cliff and you're on the other side |
| 03:29.58 | Ousnius | then it will shoot against that like it don't have no brain |
| 03:30.17 | Ousnius | that's why I made the trigger but I don't like the event ;_; |
| 03:30.31 | JademusSreg | You could code a vision system to prevent such stupidity, or a targetting system. |
| 03:31.40 | JademusSreg | But this trigger seems optimal as it's going to get; it's O(1) on the surface, and that's the best you can hope to get. |
| 03:32.32 | Ousnius | kinda surprised that I came up with the dummy melee weapon trick |
| 03:32.46 | Ousnius | usually I can't find workarounds at all |
| 03:33.17 | JademusSreg | (Though it almost certainly has O(n) or worse complexity on those pathing lookups the way the engine handles it, haha.) |
| 03:35.30 | JademusSreg | If you'd like to see my data-driven collision projectiles demo, let me know. It's perfect for my purposes, but probably wouldn't help you much, given the entirely different gameplay. |
| 03:35.42 | Ousnius | UI - Player Any Player moves mouse; do you think this will cause any problem for max. 4 players? |
| 03:36.05 | Ousnius | has almost no actions |
| 03:36.22 | JademusSreg | Well, there's always overhead syncing input states, no way around it. |
| 03:36.38 | JademusSreg | But it shouldn't be so bad. |
| 03:36.55 | Ousnius | why, what's your maps gameplay like? |
| 03:37.58 | JademusSreg | I just hope you're not designing around highly reactive gameplay, because input sync on top of the usual 150ms+ latency -and- how lag spikes can fuck everyone, I can assure you it is frustrating. |
| 03:38.42 | Ousnius | oh snap ;_; |
| 03:39.02 | Ousnius | well it's a top down shooter where you aim using the mouse |
| 03:39.09 | JademusSreg | Photon Cycles is the most readily available example of the systems I employ, but the demo map I was compiling before my haitus has the other stuff I mentioned, like data-driven collision projectiles, mouse control, pew pewing. |
| 03:39.17 | JademusSreg | Alright. Then thism ight help you. |
| 03:40.24 | JademusSreg | This actually contains a number of other demos and code, but locating the collision projectile data should be fairly easy. |
| 03:40.26 | JademusSreg | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/1049551/Jademus%20Demo.SC2Map |
| 03:41.04 | JademusSreg | And I haven't tested it in a few months, so if anything is buggy due to patches, please pardon. =D |
| 03:41.21 | Ousnius | alright I'm gonna take a look |
| 03:43.27 | Ousnius | is your galaxy code any faster than my GUI movement system? |
| 03:44.04 | JademusSreg | In brief, the projectiles check their elevation, the elevation of units in their radius, and only detonate on units on the same elevation (or special exceptions like Colossus), elevations higher than the point of origin, and such. |
| 03:44.28 | JademusSreg | I'm not certain, honestly. I script in galaxy because it works better for me. |
| 03:45.03 | JademusSreg | The gains in efficiency are minimal if any, as GUI can do nearly anything galaxy script can. |
| 03:45.57 | JademusSreg | I can attest to the infuriating lag of GUI, especially with larger GUI code bases, and I cannot tolerate that shit. |
| 03:46.36 | JademusSreg | But besides that bit of personal preference, there's no quantifiable advantage to using one over the other. |
| 03:46.40 | Ousnius | well we're using the exact same data editor methods for our missiles |
| 03:46.44 | JademusSreg | =D |
| 03:47.01 | JademusSreg | -Exactly- the same or nearly so? |
| 03:47.09 | Ousnius | I think even same values lol |
| 03:47.14 | JademusSreg | HAhaha. |
| 03:47.17 | JademusSreg | That. Is. Adorable. |
| 03:48.30 | Ousnius | not sure but I was testing if GUI editor is still lagging right now |
| 03:48.38 | Ousnius | doesn't seem to do so anymore |
| 03:48.48 | Ousnius | I think they fixed it with 1.5 |
| 03:49.16 | Ousnius | atleast my screen-sized trigger doesn't do so anymore |
| 03:49.55 | JademusSreg | I won't mention the project by name, but when it takes more than 40 seconds to load the map, and longer than a second to update after a change to a GUI trigger or library, that is just maddening. |
| 03:50.43 | Ousnius | I just copy and pasted my whole trigger, it's 20 times the size of my screen now |
| 03:50.55 | Ousnius | didn't lag on copy and doesn't lag on change |
| 03:52.17 | Ousnius | ok well there's a delay of 0,5 sec if you delete something |
| 03:52.36 | JademusSreg | The galaxy script generated by the GUI for the aforementioned project was hundreds of thousands of lines. So I'm refering to an absurd amount of GUI content. |
| 03:53.20 | JademusSreg | It gets laggy because it updates all the references with each change, and it's not an issue with a small project, but it's torture for huge projects. |
| 03:53.48 | JademusSreg | Thankfully, I am only consulting on the aforementioned un-mentioned project. =D |
| 03:53.51 | JademusSreg | brb |
| 03:57.13 | Ahli | hots trigger editor became faster, maybe that is fixed now |
| 03:58.43 | RiFT | why would my arm magazine ability be locking the caster in place? |
| 03:59.29 | Ousnius | dunno, try making it castable while in movement |
| 03:59.44 | Ousnius | in the ability flags |
| 04:00.13 | RiFT | right when i do the transient flag they arm instantly |
| 04:00.30 | RiFT | also carrier/broodlord don't have transient flag |
| 04:14.27 | Taintedwisp | How about the Text Editor Ahli.. |
| 04:14.33 | Taintedwisp | In WoL mine lags like shit |
| 04:18.19 | Daara | finished the SI:7 building :D |
| 04:18.39 | Daara | 3 hours later |
| 04:18.41 | Daara | -_- |
| 04:18.49 | Taintedwisp | si:7, wtf does that sound familiar? |
| 04:18.56 | Ousnius | WoW |
| 04:19.01 | Ousnius | gotta go sleep, bye |
| 04:23.05 | Taintedwisp | lol I have GOT to quit adding new things to evofrenzy :P |
| 04:23.13 | Taintedwisp | But now the grinder is place so thats done atleast |
| 04:23.24 | Taintedwisp | and the Enhancement Dome is finished |
| 04:23.32 | Taintedwisp | Just need to add new abilities every now and then |
| 04:23.37 | Taintedwisp | the Base defense is finished |
| 04:23.44 | Taintedwisp | The mercenaries are tomorow |
| 04:23.57 | Taintedwisp | then the next do I have to make boss abilities :P |
| 04:24.11 | Taintedwisp | day* not do |
| 04:24.21 | Taintedwisp | Then Balance |
| 04:24.28 | Taintedwisp | Then Beta IF i can get that bar made |
| 04:24.39 | Taintedwisp | I can go into beta without all the glamour but that bar is important |
| 04:26.11 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/SI7_zps2a6da1e1.jpg |
| 04:26.22 | Daara | another model down |
| 04:27.56 | Taintedwisp | Looks good Daara :D |
| 04:28.24 | Daara | the last few i'm trying to get are a bitch |
| 04:28.35 | Daara | normally they take like 5-15 minutes |
| 04:28.46 | Daara | but the last 10 or so i want are taking many hours each |
| 04:28.56 | Daara | stupid extraction issues :c |
| 04:32.54 | JademusSreg | Brak. |
| 04:39.31 | JademusSreg | I miss Brak. |
| 04:39.46 | Daara | the brak show? |
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| 04:40.34 | JademusSreg | Well, I miss the character Brak, yes. |
| 04:40.43 | Taintedwisp | yo Vailreth, here in about 5 minutes copy/paste the EvoFrenzy Mod from the Dropbox into your Sc2 Mod Folder so you have the updated version |
| 04:40.49 | JademusSreg | I also miss the Brak to my Zorak. |
| 04:40.57 | Taintedwisp | This will 99.9% chance be the LAST update to the MOD before release |
| 04:41.16 | Taintedwisp | I moved about 75 files from the Map to the MOD :P |
| 04:41.22 | Taintedwisp | so the map is now 1.89 Mbs |
| 04:41.30 | Daara | haha |
| 04:41.36 | Taintedwisp | Hey Jademus is 1.8 Mbs a lot of space for just a loadingscreen. ? |
| 04:41.38 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:41.43 | Taintedwisp | The map itself takes up the rest |
| 04:41.45 | Daara | mine changed from 78 uncompressed to 1 lol |
| 04:41.52 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:41.58 | Daara | i was tired of it lagging |
| 04:42.04 | Daara | so i moved everything to a mod |
| 04:42.12 | Taintedwisp | Uncompressed the mod is around 40 Mbs, Compressed its 20 |
| 04:42.13 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:42.17 | Daara | saves were taking 1+ minutes |
| 04:42.22 | Daara | the import view was lagging |
| 04:42.37 | Taintedwisp | I have WAY too many files :P |
| 04:42.45 | Taintedwisp | A lot of retextures, models, etc |
| 04:42.46 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:42.48 | Daara | works nicely now that the 650 files in a mod :P |
| 04:43.04 | Daara | when i'm all done |
| 04:43.06 | Taintedwisp | yup, Mods were a GREAT idea from blizzard |
| 04:43.12 | Daara | i'm expecting 2500 files |
| 04:43.15 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:43.27 | Daara | i'm not even halfway there yet :c |
| 04:43.32 | Taintedwisp | Blizz did an amazing job on compression |
| 04:43.36 | Daara | yea |
| 04:43.46 | Daara | me going from .tga textures to .dds |
| 04:43.52 | Daara | reduces them by 1/3rd |
| 04:43.53 | Taintedwisp | Oh just a note I have noticed that .DDS files Compress around 33% better then TGA |
| 04:44.02 | Daara | and then another 1/3rd from compression |
| 04:44.04 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 04:44.05 | Taintedwisp | I was just saying tha |
| 04:44.07 | Taintedwisp | hah |
| 04:44.24 | Taintedwisp | TGA can go suck it |
| 04:44.25 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:44.29 | Daara | it's pretty sweet going from 250 kb files to like 25kb :D |
| 04:44.35 | Taintedwisp | lol yeah |
| 04:44.44 | Taintedwisp | also Ogg files do way better then Wav on the editor |
| 04:44.49 | Daara | yep |
| 04:45.00 | Daara | i'm going to be converting all the sounds to .ogg |
| 04:45.22 | Daara | i need all the space i can get! |
| 04:45.25 | Taintedwisp | I already did mine :P |
| 04:45.46 | Taintedwisp | Something tells me Starcraft BW fans are going to love me, I have Starcraft 1 music and Fenix Dragoon voices :P |
| 04:45.50 | Daara | next up, warrior trainer building from stormwind |
| 04:46.03 | Daara | this one might be quicker |
| 04:46.04 | Taintedwisp | Daara what building are you working on? |
| 04:46.06 | Daara | less detail |
| 04:46.08 | Taintedwisp | what map |
| 04:46.11 | Taintedwisp | Project i mean |
| 04:46.19 | Taintedwisp | What are you doing all these buildings for :P |
| 04:46.50 | Daara | http://smotis.deviantart.com/#/d5tfnip |
| 04:47.12 | Taintedwisp | I hope Blizzard is smart and throws in TONS of spell effects in HOTS |
| 04:47.41 | RiFT | but art costs money, so why would they do that? |
| 04:47.58 | Taintedwisp | what? |
| 04:48.13 | Daara | they are giving us the tools to do it for them :P |
| 04:48.21 | Taintedwisp | Because they wish to support their modding community, because having great mods bring more money. |
| 04:48.29 | Taintedwisp | They actually loose money when we dont make great projects :P |
| 04:48.34 | Daara | yep |
| 04:48.42 | Daara | we keep people playing their game |
| 04:48.52 | Taintedwisp | exactly and bring new people in |
| 04:49.01 | Daara | imagine if Sotis didn't suck |
| 04:49.09 | Taintedwisp | Hence why we get Dev Direct help |
| 04:49.10 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:49.20 | Taintedwisp | Because it is VERY important that the custom scene succeeds |
| 04:49.28 | Taintedwisp | Its been a VERY rocky start, but its getting beter |
| 04:49.30 | Daara | if someone could make an amazing map it could draw a huge fan base |
| 04:49.38 | Daara | bring people in that haven't played |
| 04:49.44 | Taintedwisp | I have an awesome map coming :P |
| 04:49.53 | Taintedwisp | Just gotta polish it and make mercenaries. |
| 04:49.54 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:50.16 | Daara | i think having a warcraft 3 style map would bring people over from warcraft 3 |
| 04:50.24 | Daara | as long as it's up to par |
| 04:50.25 | Taintedwisp | Yeah. |
| 04:50.38 | Taintedwisp | I made a warcraft 2 style map :P |
| 04:50.54 | Taintedwisp | THis next map is going to be great :P if you liked EVOLVES, or Footman Frenzy :D |
| 04:51.08 | Daara | i enjoyed them for a bit |
| 04:51.11 | Taintedwisp | if not, then go shoot yourself in the tow |
| 04:51.12 | Daara | i ended up just winning all the time |
| 04:51.13 | Taintedwisp | toe |
| 04:51.21 | Daara | so they got boring lol |
| 04:51.22 | Taintedwisp | you wont be able to do that in my map daara :P |
| 04:51.32 | Taintedwisp | Due to randomized events that can screw you up bad |
| 04:51.33 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 04:51.38 | Taintedwisp | they can screw you over or REALLY help |
| 04:51.48 | Taintedwisp | if you get into the lead they are mostly designed to hurt you |
| 04:52.03 | Taintedwisp | knocks people down a notch |
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| 04:58.01 | Taintedwisp | Alright Vailreth it should be safe to Update the Mod File just copy/paste the one from the dropbox to your sc2 mod folder :P |
| 04:59.21 | Daara | i really need a 2nd monitor |
| 05:06.59 | JademusSreg | Back. |
| 05:07.39 | JademusSreg | I'll check, Taint. |
| 05:07.49 | Taintedwisp | check what jademusSreg? |
| 05:08.01 | JademusSreg | I'll check my enormous loading screen. |
| 05:08.15 | Taintedwisp | oh :P |
| 05:08.26 | Taintedwisp | mines 2100 x 1300 :P |
| 05:08.33 | Taintedwisp | not exactly tiny |
| 05:08.45 | Taintedwisp | I made it to look good on every setting up to 1080 P |
| 05:09.37 | JademusSreg | Which file format? |
| 05:09.49 | Taintedwisp | dds of course |
| 05:09.50 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 05:12.06 | JademusSreg | My loading screen is 2048*1160; 1.48 MB png, 2.26 MB dds. |
| 05:12.53 | JademusSreg | Though my current dds export setting is the one I use for UI shit. |
| 05:13.05 | JademusSreg | The explicit alpha doubles its size, soooo |
| 05:13.14 | JademusSreg | It's actual size should be 1.13 MB. |
| 05:13.15 | Taintedwisp | same here :P |
| 05:13.28 | Taintedwisp | dxt 3 ? |
| 05:13.36 | Taintedwisp | explicit? |
| 05:13.53 | JademusSreg | I mean to reduce size, select no alpha. |
| 05:13.59 | JademusSreg | It's a loading screen; doesn't need it. |
| 05:14.15 | Taintedwisp | ahhh |
| 05:36.08 | Taintedwisp | I GOT HOES |
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| 06:27.57 | Taintedwisp | Everyones sooo quiet... |
| 06:28.00 | Taintedwisp | :( |
| 06:29.35 | JademusSreg | Hah. |
| 06:30.10 | Taintedwisp | lol my IRC froze for the past hour :P |
| 06:30.18 | Taintedwisp | so I had thought everyone was just quiet :P |
| 06:31.11 | Triceron | people are quiet too. |
| 06:31.22 | RiFT | what does the select flat for trains do? |
| 06:32.10 | RiFT | *flag |
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| 06:37.33 | iMisu | how i remove shadow from nexus in data editor |
| 06:39.48 | JademusSreg | Actorsss. |
| 06:41.07 | iMisu | i dont see it |
| 06:42.14 | JademusSreg | You mean the -splat-. |
| 06:43.04 | JademusSreg | The splat is applied beneath it; find the splat field in the actor and set it to none. =D |
| 06:43.13 | iMisu | i set it none, i see splat still |
| 06:43.55 | JademusSreg | I am skeptical. |
| 06:57.49 | Daara | hiMisu |
| 07:06.10 | Daara | school house done....i think! |
| 07:06.19 | Daara | time to import |
| 07:07.34 | Daara | sexy |
| 07:09.22 | iMisu | night darra, i sleep now |
| 07:09.32 | iMisu | work early, night |
| 07:09.34 | Daara | :c |
| 07:09.37 | Daara | nn |
| 07:14.38 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/SchoolHouse_zps3a8ff99f.jpg |
| 07:14.40 | Daara | :D |
| 07:14.44 | Daara | my childrens must learn! |
| 07:19.27 | Taintedwisp | your childrens can remain ignorant! |
| 07:21.14 | Daara | nope! |
| 07:21.27 | Daara | they can buy their tier gear and justice gear in there too! |
| 07:21.31 | Daara | and train as warriors! |
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| 07:21.52 | JademusSreg | Childrens. =D |
| 07:22.59 | Daara | what next |
| 07:23.24 | Daara | should i do the stormwind prison? ^^ |
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| 07:27.51 | JademusSreg | Hell yeah. |
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| 07:34.34 | Daara | http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h205/Daara/PrisonBefore_zpsead4cd68.jpg |
| 07:34.35 | Daara | time me! |
| 08:01.17 | Taintedwisp | How about you do, Death Wing, team colored :P |
| 08:01.25 | Taintedwisp | someone has to fly above SW and destroy it |
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| 08:21.44 | Taintedwisp | soooo quiet.. |
| 08:21.51 | Taintedwisp | Tooo quiet... |
| 08:21.54 | Taintedwisp | WAKE DA FUCK UP!!! |
| 08:25.55 | TwoDie | YAWN! |
| 08:49.04 | G0A | TwoDie working on the map? |
| 08:49.14 | TwoDie | a little |
| 08:49.21 | G0A | k |
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| 10:24.52 | TwoDie | G0A http://snag.gy/Tfpdv.jpg |
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| 10:49.28 | Zolden | TwoDie: r u here? |
| 10:49.36 | TwoDie | no :/ |
| 10:49.40 | TwoDie | please come again |
| 10:50.02 | Zolden | there is a placement bug in aok |
| 10:50.50 | Zolden | if a guy leaves before the in game lobby finishes, his townhall creates at someones town hall |
| 10:51.07 | Zolden | never saw it, but guys said about it |
| 10:51.49 | TwoDie | okay |
| 10:53.13 | Zolden | also |
| 10:53.21 | Zolden | .me hits TwoDie and gains +1 elo |
| 10:53.25 | Zolden | fuck |
| 10:54.19 | TwoDie | so where is your script for elo? |
| 10:54.39 | Zolden | do you write/read to banks |
| 10:54.52 | TwoDie | i have example to do so |
| 10:55.03 | Zolden | ok, i'll create it today |
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| 11:07.01 | Kubi | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0gQjaU8cr4&sns=fb |
| 11:07.01 | Kubi | lik |
| 11:07.05 | Kubi | lol |
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| 11:39.50 | G0A | Zolden want my ranking system? it may help you how to do top 100 ranking. (I would send you my Nexus wars map) |
| 11:41.04 | Zolden | G0A: Actually I want to do it by myself, becuase this process is the source of fun |
| 11:42.48 | TwoDie | G0A in a hour and a half can give you map if you would want to develop it |
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| 12:00.13 | G0A | no |
| 12:00.19 | G0A | I will work on random td today |
| 12:01.26 | TwoDie | Okay |
| 12:02.13 | Zolden | G0A: what do you plan to change? |
| 12:04.54 | TwoDie | Add more randomness! |
| 12:05.24 | Zolden | and more TDness |
| 12:08.22 | G0A | balancing mostly.D |
| 12:09.00 | G0A | dammit hots ice terrain is awesome: http://www.sc2mapster.com/forums/development/terrain/43390-hots-terrain-showcase/#p1 |
| 12:11.05 | TwoDie | saw that awesum stuff! |
| 12:11.19 | TwoDie | its mostly nice doodads |
| 12:11.47 | TwoDie | nice approch in making them |
| 12:13.32 | TwoDie | http://snag.gy/CcR7K.jpg |
| 12:31.02 | Kubi | They released the snow tileset on hots beta |
| 12:31.10 | Kubi | ? |
| 12:35.29 | Zolden | who cares about default tilesets, right TwoDie? |
| 12:38.24 | Kubi | Just a simple question |
| 12:47.03 | TwoDie | Zolden idk what you trying to say by taht :O |
| 12:47.42 | TwoDie | Kubi in hots you recieve all data need for campaign and multiplay including all textures and tile sets |
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| 13:17.01 | Ousnius | why does my auto-pickup ability for items that lay on the ground have a cast delay even though I disabled it all? |
| 13:22.41 | Zolden | units have pickup abil? |
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| 13:31.54 | Ahli | it's part of the inventory ability |
| 13:45.55 | Ahli | http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/7811401779 |
| 13:50.13 | Kubi | Whats with Squad TD |
| 13:51.07 | Zolden | they removed it? |
| 13:51.48 | Zolden | btw, after I switched from ruRu to enGB, all squad td texts become param/value |
| 13:53.36 | Kubi | so who made the shitty post |
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| 13:58.58 | Zolden | someone's ghost |
| 13:59.18 | Zolden | someone's died, and there wasn't squad td in the afterlife |
| 14:02.42 | G0A | wasnt squad td taken already once down because that |
| 14:04.14 | Zolden | yea, i remember it |
| 14:04.44 | G0A | btw what was squad td selling? |
| 14:04.51 | Zolden | dunno |
| 14:05.05 | Zolden | i only see param/values there |
| 14:05.49 | Ahli | it had localization problems? that map exists forever |
| 14:08.26 | Zolden | I changed locale from reRU to enGB, and it fucked squd td for me. Tried other maps -> All fine |
| 14:09.35 | Ahli | hmm, but engb was fine I think... well, I didn't play squadtd in the last half year I think |
| 14:39.00 | Kubi | Anyone good with dds images? |
| 14:40.13 | Zolden | what do you need? |
| 14:40.27 | Kubi | How should I go about adding a transparent to a DDS/TGA file? |
| 14:43.28 | Zolden | alpha layer black areas are transparent |
| 14:43.38 | Zolden | and forget about tga, use dds |
| 14:43.39 | Kubi | as DDS or TGA |
| 14:43.53 | Kubi | wtf |
| 14:43.56 | Kubi | my shit looks like shit |
| 14:43.57 | Kubi | BAHHH |
| 14:44.08 | Zolden | change shit |
| 14:47.25 | Kubi | wtf |
| 14:47.29 | Kubi | It looks all fucked up |
| 14:47.32 | Kubi | http://imgur.com/IUsicsG |
| 14:47.47 | Kubi | WHY IS IMAGES SO FUCKING HARD |
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| 14:48.14 | Zolden_ | http://snag.gy/dP9wl.jpg |
| 14:48.20 | Zolden_ | black shit is invisible |
| 14:48.21 | Kubi | tea |
| 14:48.22 | Kubi | I have that |
| 14:48.29 | Kubi | http://imgur.com/IUsicsG |
| 14:48.31 | Kubi | looks liee that |
| 14:49.11 | Zolden | it's fucked |
| 14:49.14 | Kubi | yeah no shit |
| 14:49.40 | Zolden | doesn't look like a transparency problem |
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| 14:53.34 | Kubi | Ah ok |
| 14:53.35 | Kubi | I got it |
| 14:53.36 | Kubi | nvm |
| 14:53.57 | Kubi | My dumbass made it change the image of the dialog (not dialog item) |
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| 15:43.20 | Dogmai | ~seen blizz-deletarius |
| 15:43.23 | purl | blizz-deletarius <d8940048@gateway/web/freenode/ip.216.148.0.72> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 3d 16h 25m 55s ago, saying: 'brb'. |
| 15:43.33 | Kubi | that nigga is dead |
| 15:49.23 | Zolden | ~seen Dogmai |
| 15:49.24 | purl | dogmai is currently on #sc2mapster (1d 20h 8m 48s). Has said a total of 12 messages. Is idling for 6m 4s, last said: '~seen blizz-deletarius'. |
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| 15:49.42 | Dustin|Home | ~seen Dustin|Home |
| 15:49.42 | purl | dustin|home is currently on #sc2mapster. Has said a total of 56 messages. Is idling for 0s, last said: '~seen Dustin|Home'. |
| 15:50.37 | Zolden | ~seen seen |
| 15:50.38 | purl | Zolden: i haven't seen 'seen' |
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| 15:57.19 | sc2println | Zolden: Hi how have your normal tests going? |
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| 16:55.25 | MGC-Eimtr | quack question.. |
| 16:55.30 | MGC-Eimtr | quack quack! |
| 16:59.41 | MGC-Eimtr | the orbital has some actor Orbital COmmand Splat |
| 16:59.53 | MGC-Eimtr | do you know where it is cause I want to remove the splat of the building |
| 17:00.05 | MGC-Eimtr | it says events but i couldnt see any event that creates it |
| 17:01.23 | Zolden | i'd assume it has its own actor |
| 17:01.27 | Zolden | the splat one |
| 17:01.53 | Zolden | and its events may link the orbital command unit\ |
| 17:02.09 | Zolden | and create the spat actor on birth of the orbital command shit |
| 17:10.02 | Vailreth | hello folks |
| 17:10.07 | MGC-Eimtr | let me see if it is when morph start or morph end cause the flying one doesnt have it |
| 17:10.59 | Zolden | herro forks |
| 17:11.14 | Zolden | a chinese said |
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| 17:16.47 | Vailreth | any one here planning on watching the superbowl |
| 17:18.27 | Zolden | what planet? |
| 17:29.28 | TwoDie | Vailreth those fancy youtube videos with name that includes word superbowl butstill have no idea what that is all about? Yeah! |
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| 17:57.31 | Vailreth | i am thinking of what all i can do for a mod for hots that uses the WoL campaign |
| 17:58.21 | Vailreth | i am think for zerg of an upgrade that causes the locasts from the swarm hott to fly |
| 17:58.28 | Vailreth | swarmhost* |
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| 18:02.43 | Zolden | sc2println: hey |
| 18:02.54 | Zolden | yes, I've fixed the issue |
| 18:03.03 | Zolden | but I've found out something |
| 18:04.43 | Zolden | 1. both, vertical and horizontal uv mirroring invert normals, so inverting bothe doesn't invert it, it was different before I started using blender to fix normals |
| 18:05.32 | Zolden | 2. Mirroring the mesh inverts both normal channels |
| 18:06.07 | sc2println | do you do an 1 axis mirror or a 2 axis mirror? |
| 18:07.06 | Zolden | I did 1 axis mirror, it inverts the both normals channesl, and 2 axis mirror would obviously invert it back, but leave the mesh topologically the same as it was |
| 18:07.30 | sc2println | Zolden: I am currently trying to fix a long standing m3addon issue |
| 18:07.38 | Zolden | which one? |
| 18:07.46 | sc2println | a scaling issue |
| 18:07.54 | sc2println | in 3ds max there seems to be a way |
| 18:08.08 | sc2println | to scale a bone in what would be "Edit Mode" in Blender |
| 18:08.14 | sc2println | I am not very familiar with 3ds max |
| 18:08.35 | Zolden | in max there is edit bone mode, u may be talking aobut it |
| 18:08.52 | sc2println | propably |
| 18:09.07 | sc2println | in Blender you can't set a scale for a edit bone |
| 18:09.15 | sc2println | in 3ds max it's propably possible |
| 18:09.16 | Zolden | it let you edit bones like they are meshes |
| 18:09.46 | sc2println | hmm that doesn't sound like it's in Blender |
| 18:09.58 | sc2println | in Blender you can also specify custom meshes for bones |
| 18:10.06 | sc2println | so that the bones can have different shapes |
| 18:10.16 | sc2println | in Blender you create the bones in "Edit Mode" |
| 18:10.18 | Zolden | yeah, bone tools in max go it too |
| 18:10.26 | Zolden | *do |
| 18:10.41 | sc2println | In edit mode you can specify the tail, head and roll of a bone |
| 18:10.55 | Zolden | ye |
| 18:11.05 | sc2println | which basically means you specify the location, length and rotation of the bone |
| 18:11.33 | sc2println | the length value is purely visual as far as I know |
| 18:11.40 | Zolden | and spatial shape, to expand the envelope |
| 18:12.00 | sc2println | and there is no way to specify scaling factors for x, y and z |
| 18:12.07 | sc2println | what's a spatial shape? |
| 18:12.18 | sc2println | can you show me how bones work? |
| 18:12.20 | Zolden | sec, i'll show you |
| 18:13.54 | Vailreth | any one here having trouble logging into battlenet in the beta editor? |
| 18:14.27 | Zolden | http://snag.gy/qww4O.jpg |
| 18:14.33 | Zolden | еруыу уыскуысутсуы |
| 18:14.39 | Zolden | these excrescences |
| 18:15.02 | Zolden | Vailreth: hope this means they are uploading it |
| 18:15.20 | Zolden | to includeart tools |
| 18:15.27 | Zolden | and ppl near you shit |
| 18:15.40 | Zolden | and naked kerrigan model |
| 18:15.48 | Zolden | with a ling mouth instead of cunt |
| 18:16.27 | Vailreth | hah hah.. |
| 18:17.01 | Vailreth | no the game client can log in just fine, the editor how ever will not |
| 18:29.19 | Dustin|Home | Vailreth, |
| 18:29.29 | Dustin|Home | Im having that error |
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| 18:48.47 | Vailreth | i see |
| 18:49.07 | Vailreth | any ideas on a fix? |
| 18:51.02 | Zolden | maybe they are updating something, so just wait |
| 18:51.13 | Zolden | maybe theyr are including the art tools |
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| 18:51.28 | Zolden | "start of the week" they said |
| 18:51.43 | Taintedwisp_ | i wish I would have never registered this name... |
| 18:51.44 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 18:52.01 | Vailreth | hey Tainted |
| 18:55.39 | Repo | New map: Baneling Busting! - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/baneling-busting/ |
| 18:55.40 | Repo | New map: WZDM II v1.03 - http://www.sc2mapster.com/maps/wzdm-ii-v1-03/ |
| 18:56.40 | Taintedwisp_ | Hey Vailreth |
| 18:57.50 | Vailreth | im not sure if i should have normal locusts shoot up or flying ones that can shoot down.. |
| 18:58.47 | Taintedwisp_ | :P what you workin on? |
| 18:59.31 | Vailreth | i was toying with a mod for HotS that adds or modifies somethings just to goof around and get used to the editor again |
| 18:59.47 | Taintedwisp_ | AH |
| 19:00.25 | Vailreth | the unforutnet point is that as of right now i cant download from or publish to battlenet in the beta editor |
| 19:00.58 | Taintedwisp_ | WOW, looking at blizzards changeling ability, they did it the noob way :P |
| 19:01.22 | Vailreth | hm |
| 19:01.30 | Taintedwisp_ | they actually created all those units for it to morph into :P |
| 19:01.35 | Taintedwisp_ | All they had to do was actor swap |
| 19:02.10 | Taintedwisp_ | give the unit a buff when it got close to an enemy and then actor swap depending on validator |
| 19:02.12 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 19:02.31 | Taintedwisp_ | They did TImed life and all this other shit :P |
| 19:02.38 | Taintedwisp_ | 1 buff 1 damage, and 4 actors |
| 19:02.54 | Taintedwisp_ | They did 4 units, 4 actors, 2 effects a buff, etc |
| 19:02.55 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 19:03.33 | Vailreth | yeah swapping actors could have worked. |
| 19:04.00 | Taintedwisp_ | Hey Vailreth, You wanna try out a concept I was thinking for one of my mercenaries? |
| 19:04.09 | Vailreth | what is it? |
| 19:04.18 | Taintedwisp_ | I wanna make it so a unit actor swaps to whatever unit a player has the most of |
| 19:05.12 | Vailreth | i wouldnt know how to do that |
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| 19:05.26 | Taintedwisp_ | yeah me either thats the problem :P |
| 19:05.38 | Taintedwisp_ | Sounds like some shifty validator work |
| 19:05.46 | Vailreth | yeah |
| 19:06.05 | Vailreth | you would likely need tons of enumerate area validators |
| 19:06.21 | Taintedwisp_ | possible :P |
| 19:06.22 | Vailreth | like one for every unit type... |
| 19:06.35 | Taintedwisp_ | soooo 30 then |
| 19:06.36 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 19:07.49 | Vailreth | and a bunch of function or likely condition validators if tyou knew how to use them |
| 19:08.07 | Vailreth | itd be a huge mess i think |
| 19:08.10 | Taintedwisp_ | OOH I JUST THOUGHT OF A NEW SPELL FOR THE ENHANCE DOME |
| 19:08.11 | Taintedwisp_ | :P |
| 19:08.20 | Vailreth | ? |
| 19:08.22 | Taintedwisp_ | hahah |
| 19:08.47 | Taintedwisp_ | You can use this spell to change your units to the same model as tier 10 temporarly. :P |
| 19:08.58 | Taintedwisp_ | well until they die |
| 19:09.05 | Taintedwisp_ | Only useable in late game |
| 19:09.18 | Vailreth | whats the point? |
| 19:09.49 | Taintedwisp_ | :))), Simple to fool your opponate |
| 19:09.56 | Taintedwisp_ | Then again... it wont change the name |
| 19:11.46 | Vailreth | nod |
| 19:12.07 | Vailreth | i just dont see the tactical uses |
| 19:12.41 | Taintedwisp_ | yeah if it changed the name it would have some but then again, players might not be able to use it in the manner I would heh |
| 19:13.16 | Taintedwisp_ | That was the point of the CHangeling Merc, you buy 25-50 of them at a time, and they fool your opponate into thinking you have more units then you really have |
| 19:14.27 | Taintedwisp_ | Any Non Combat Mercenary ideas? I already have a healer |
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| 19:16.21 | Taintedwisp_ | I deff want mercs, but coming up with the right ones is a pain :P |
| 19:19.35 | Taintedwisp_ | I think the Enhance dome is going to bring a lot of cool stratagies |
| 19:19.51 | Taintedwisp_ | The spells cost a lot but they can be worth it to defend or attack |
| 19:19.54 | Vailreth | a low to mid health merc that is invulnerable but takes set damage in place of units around it? |
| 19:20.20 | Taintedwisp_ | each spell right now cost pretty much 100 kills, though that will be raised most likely to around 200-250 kills |
| 19:20.32 | Vailreth | hm |
| 19:20.39 | Taintedwisp_ | hmmm but I dont know how to do that vail :( |
| 19:20.45 | Taintedwisp_ | i tried before with the firebat :P |
| 19:21.09 | Taintedwisp_ | each spell on the enhance dome affects EVERY mini unit you have. |
| 19:22.09 | Vailreth | thats ok i already have that developed |
| 19:23.37 | Vailreth | i am going to make sure it still works then host the map on db |
| 19:30.34 | Vailreth | https://dl.dropbox.com/u/25150886/damage%20takeing%20aura.SC2Map |
| 19:31.24 | Taintedwisp_ | Alrighty Ill replicate that in my copy |
| 19:31.28 | Vailreth | when you run the map you will have to use the create units cheat to add some marines /makeunit marine 3 |
| 19:31.36 | Taintedwisp_ | :P okie |
| 19:31.39 | Taintedwisp_ | I use that one a lot |
| 19:31.51 | Vailreth | for some reason preplaced units will not accept the aura |
| 19:32.04 | Vailreth | ok |
| 19:32.46 | Vailreth | as long as they are with in the effect of the maruaders aura the marauder will take ten damage when ever a unit with the buff is attacked |
| 19:34.07 | Taintedwisp_ | NICE |
| 19:34.30 | Taintedwisp_ | This means I dont have to scale the marauder with time :P |
| 19:34.43 | Vailreth | testing now to see how the damage distributes between multiple marauders |
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| 19:36.34 | Vailreth | ok it appears that the marauder who casts the aura on the units first takes precedence over any following marauders added to the group |
| 19:37.12 | Vailreth | until it dies or the units move out of its aura range |
| 19:37.22 | Taintedwisp_ | okay sounds good |
| 19:37.24 | Taintedwisp_ | :D |
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| 19:38.12 | Vailreth | in the text map you can tweak the duration of the behavior and the marines can cast it on targets and will take damage instead of the target when attacked |
| 19:38.14 | Taintedwisp_ | and I can easily recreate this :P |
| 19:38.30 | Vailreth | yeah its kinda simple. |
| 19:38.51 | Taintedwisp_ | I thought it was harder then that -_-... Just shows I dont know enough about damage responses :P |
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| 19:39.28 | Vailreth | yeah and the target of the damage effect called by the behavior |
| 19:39.59 | Vailreth | their interplay is odd and sometimes counter intuitive |
| 19:40.45 | Vailreth | oh you could create an aura that replenishes the casters health as allys nearby take damage .. |
| 19:41.53 | Vailreth | do protoss units have shields as well as hp in this map? or do just heros have shields? |
| 19:42.24 | Taintedwisp_ | Protoss have their health split into half |
| 19:42.29 | Taintedwisp_ | 50% shields and 50% health |
| 19:42.31 | Taintedwisp_ | just looks beter |
| 19:43.29 | Vailreth | i was thinking a unit or ability that burns shields to damage the unit with them |
| 19:44.53 | Vailreth | brb folks its nearly time for me to have lunhc |
| 19:48.38 | Taintedwisp_ | I think Imma throw in a mineral sink that could help too :P |
| 19:58.04 | Taintedwisp_ | And Defender is Completed |
| 20:00.20 | Taintedwisp_ | brb 30 minutes |
| 20:01.02 | Daara | holy shit |
| 20:01.08 | Daara | 1tb ssds are like 3k lol |
| 20:08.01 | Vailreth | i see a two tb solid state drive for 12k usd |
| 20:08.27 | Vailreth | normally nearly 18k |
| 20:09.05 | Vailreth | i could buy a car for that and then some.. |
| 20:09.17 | Vailreth | sure it would be used but still |
| 20:11.40 | Daara | not worth buying it when it's that high |
| 20:11.51 | Daara | in 5 years it will be half of that |
| 20:11.59 | Daara | cars don't even depreciate that quick lol |
| 20:12.25 | Vailreth | i think i will wait for the 60 tb Hdds |
| 20:13.55 | Daara | what could anyone possibly need 60 tbs for lol? |
| 20:14.06 | Daara | that would probably hold every movie and song in existance |
| 20:14.47 | Vailreth | games and freeware |
| 20:16.52 | Daara | kind of funny looking at prices for part |
| 20:17.05 | Daara | these 500gb western digital hdd are more expensive than the 1 tb |
| 20:17.26 | Vailreth | odd wonder if they are more reliable or something? |
| 20:17.49 | Daara | who knows -_- |
| 20:20.41 | Zolden | hitler knows, he lost ww2 because his western digital hdd died |
| 20:21.02 | Daara | =\ |
| 20:32.09 | Daara | wtf they still make 256mb ram o.O |
| 20:33.26 | Vailreth | thats ood |
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| 20:34.07 | Vailreth | er odd |
| 20:34.24 | Daara | shit likes 20 year old technology lol |
| 20:34.38 | Vailreth | hm |
| 20:34.56 | Vailreth | i had a computer once with a 250 gb harddrive |
| 20:35.10 | Vailreth | or wast mb |
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| 20:35.25 | Vailreth | might have been MB |
| 20:35.29 | Vailreth | yeah i think it was |
| 20:36.25 | Vailreth | remember those days |
| 20:36.54 | Vailreth | with crt monitors blasting radiation at your face |
| 20:37.34 | Vailreth | my parents still have a pair of old Crt tvs blasting radiation at them |
| 20:39.27 | Zolden | yea, it's good to live in a future |
| 20:40.09 | Triceron | with jetpacks! |
| 20:41.54 | G0A | my crt monitor is a smoke generator, when I turn it on it makes smoke:) quite funny.D |
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| 20:43.58 | Daara | lol |
| 20:52.28 | Triceron | Zolden you there? |
| 20:52.59 | TwoDie | Im here! |
| 20:54.25 | Triceron | imposter! |
| 20:59.55 | Zolden | Triceron: yea |
| 21:00.05 | Triceron | what do you use to create your particles? |
| 21:00.19 | Triceron | do you take em from other units in the game and modify or do you create from scratch? |
| 21:00.33 | Zolden | sometimes create |
| 21:00.36 | Zolden | sometimes take |
| 21:00.44 | Zolden | we can't create some types of particles |
| 21:00.49 | Triceron | you create in max? |
| 21:00.55 | Zolden | because some of parameters aren't present |
| 21:01.03 | Triceron | i know ribbons arn't supported |
| 21:01.15 | Zolden | to create in max go create->helpers->starcraft 2 objects -> pemitter |
| 21:01.30 | Zolden | ribbons are supported yet, i created a couple |
| 21:01.43 | Triceron | how do you view particle effects? do I have to render to see? |
| 21:01.56 | Zolden | also projections can be imported/exported with blender m3addon |
| 21:02.09 | Zolden | you can only see them in sc2 editor |
| 21:02.46 | Zolden | but you can press "add object" in cutscene viewer, it will be automatically update the model after you exprt it |
| 21:03.26 | Zolden | and I'd recommend to use particles from other blizz models |
| 21:03.45 | Triceron | yeah I was thinking about reusing particles |
| 21:04.25 | Zolden | just import a model, rmove everything excepth the particle emitter, also remove all materials but the one particle uses. THen import your model to this particle |
| 21:05.05 | Zolden | I've tried to export the particle and import it to the model, but it didn't work, even crashed the editor |
| 21:05.11 | Zolden | so, only import model to particle |
| 21:05.21 | Triceron | i've done it with a few particles |
| 21:05.35 | Triceron | it works half and half, but I did it a long time ago too so a lot of partices weren't supporteda t the time |
| 21:05.36 | Zolden | and don't forget, that partcile will alwayas be placed at the pivot of the bone you attached it to |
| 21:05.46 | Triceron | I added zeratul's blade particle effect to some of my own units |
| 21:05.52 | Triceron | but I dunno how to key em for animation |
| 21:06.02 | Triceron | I noticed some zealot anims have the blade retract |
| 21:06.06 | Triceron | I dunno how they do it |
| 21:06.48 | Zolden | well, particles have lots of parameters, some of them decide where particles fly and how fast |
| 21:07.13 | Zolden | all parameters can be animated |
| 21:07.31 | Zolden | if you turn on autokey, and change a parameter, it will be animated |
| 21:07.45 | Zolden | a red border will appear atound it |
| 21:07.46 | Triceron | and exported? |
| 21:07.50 | Zolden | yea |
| 21:07.59 | Triceron | hmm, okay gotta try that again |
| 21:08.03 | Zolden | same thing as if you animate uv |
| 21:08.15 | Triceron | have you tested visibility keying? |
| 21:08.19 | Triceron | for either models or particles |
| 21:08.23 | Zolden | another animation source is bitmap thing |
| 21:08.36 | Triceron | cuz right now I'm using scaling tricks to make things disappear |
| 21:08.54 | Zolden | yes, i tested, and I remember something worked, something didn't |
| 21:09.01 | Triceron | hmm |
| 21:09.19 | Zolden | you couldp lay with alpha channel uv, or alpha layer brightness multiplier |
| 21:09.52 | Zolden | uv animating will definitely work |
| 21:10.02 | Zolden | layer brightness need some tests |
| 21:10.09 | Triceron | yeah I really wanna figure out uv animating |
| 21:10.32 | Triceron | I wanted that for my water elemental, but I'm prolly gonna stick with static textures for now |
| 21:10.55 | Triceron | I tried testing uv animation, I couldnt get it exported |
| 21:10.58 | Triceron | it works in max |
| 21:11.42 | Zolden | worked for me |
| 21:11.59 | Zolden | but was a bit buggy |
| 21:12.31 | Zolden | First, I lost zeratul blade mesh animation, then remade it and it worked |
| 21:13.56 | Zolden | don't forget to have keys for 1st and last frame |
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| 21:17.55 | Triceron | I tried even keying every frame, it didn't work for me |
| 21:18.07 | JademusSreg | Pew pew. |
| 21:18.10 | Triceron | i had a sphere of water rotating, culdn't get it exported |
| 21:19.13 | Zolden | do you talk about that "long time ago" experience? |
| 21:19.44 | Triceron | no this was recent when I tested |
| 21:20.00 | Triceron | like only a few months ago |
| 21:20.11 | Zolden | try now |
| 21:21.06 | Zolden | though, my successful experiment happened a few months ago too |
| 21:26.47 | Daara | 1600 for a new computer not too bad! ssd and monitor adding 500 |
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| 21:37.22 | Repo | New announcement: Street Empires Update - http://www.sc2mapster.com/announcements/street-empires-update/ |
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| 21:48.56 | Taintedwisp_ | back from my 6 mile walk :P |
| 21:49.57 | Vailreth | welcome back |
| 21:50.30 | TwoDie | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:50.47 | Zolden | why walk? |
| 21:51.33 | JademusSreg | He couldn't find an eagle to ride. |
| 21:51.39 | TwoDie | why not running like zolden at midnight in the winter :/ |
| 21:52.09 | Zolden | today I saw 3 dogs |
| 21:52.11 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 21:52.14 | Zolden | they saw me |
| 21:52.26 | Taintedwisp_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:52.29 | Vailreth | did you know in hots you can change a weapons target filters with an upgrade? |
| 21:52.46 | Taintedwisp_ | You can do that in WoL i thought Vailreth |
| 21:52.54 | Vailreth | ah |
| 21:53.04 | Zolden | I want more from hots, much more |
| 21:53.04 | Vailreth | cool |
| 21:53.39 | Vailreth | the permanent flag for behaviors works in hots |
| 21:54.27 | Vailreth | so the tome shop i invented waaaayy back in WoL beta now works correctly |
| 21:55.51 | Taintedwisp_ | lol |
| 22:04.43 | *** join/#sc2mapster Taintedwisp (4bb54181@gateway/web/freenode/ip.75.181.65.129) |
| 22:12.50 | Daara | i'm starting to feel old |
| 22:13.18 | Daara | one of the girls i use to play wow with had a baby when i first met her, she's almost 10 now -_- |
| 22:13.53 | Taintedwisp | Shut up, old bastard |
| 22:13.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:14.04 | Daara | it doesn't feel like it has been 9 years! |
| 22:14.17 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:14.19 | JademusSreg | Haha. |
| 22:14.25 | Taintedwisp | so your what 30? |
| 22:14.31 | Daara | no lol 25 almost 26 |
| 22:14.44 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:14.58 | Taintedwisp | If your old that means it wont be too much longer for me... STAY YOUNG YOU BASTARD!!! |
| 22:15.04 | Daara | well |
| 22:15.10 | Daara | ppl ask me if i'm 16 still |
| 22:15.14 | Daara | so |
| 22:15.19 | Taintedwisp | yeah same here -_-... |
| 22:15.37 | Taintedwisp | Of course then again, I have long ass hair and keep my face shaved :P |
| 22:15.50 | Daara | yea...imagine picking up your high school freshman cousin from school and ppl ask me if i'm her boyfriend... |
| 22:16.14 | Bommes | didn't wow come out 2005? |
| 22:16.19 | Daara | 2004 |
| 22:16.34 | nooblark | where da fuk misu been? |
| 22:16.38 | Zolden | that baby wasn't 0 years old too |
| 22:16.40 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 22:16.40 | Daara | she was on earlier |
| 22:16.46 | nooblark | she, or he? |
| 22:16.58 | Daara | oh i dunno |
| 22:17.01 | Daara | didn't check for a penis |
| 22:17.07 | nooblark | broken english, or good english? |
| 22:17.09 | Taintedwisp | Imisu was on about 3 hours ago |
| 22:17.10 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:17.32 | Taintedwisp | Hey vailreth, I need your opinion on something |
| 22:17.39 | Vailreth | ok |
| 22:17.41 | Daara | ~seen iMisu |
| 22:17.45 | purl | imisu <~iMisu@173-166-230-6-sacramento.hfc.comcastbusiness.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #sc2mapster, 15h 8m 13s ago, saying: 'work early, night'. |
| 22:17.45 | Taintedwisp | Okay so Imma have trouble balancing these mercenaries |
| 22:17.48 | nooblark | meh w/e. dinner and stupidbowl |
| 22:17.49 | Taintedwisp | because they wont get stronger |
| 22:17.52 | Daara | well |
| 22:17.55 | Daara | i assume it was he |
| 22:18.03 | Daara | because the last thing misu said was good night to me |
| 22:18.17 | Taintedwisp | do you think i should buff them, or give them all your defend thing,(without the damage removal)? |
| 22:18.32 | Taintedwisp | So their health is based off of other units being hit |
| 22:18.50 | Taintedwisp | THat way I can do everything by multipliers and fractions and not have to buff them at al |
| 22:19.25 | Vailreth | not sure |
| 22:19.41 | Taintedwisp | I mean I can EASILY do it :P |
| 22:20.02 | Daara | going to try out path of exile |
| 22:20.06 | Daara | 10% done! |
| 22:20.44 | Taintedwisp | Path of Exile is Fun : |
| 22:20.48 | Taintedwisp | The art is meh |
| 22:20.50 | Taintedwisp | but the game is good |
| 22:21.06 | Taintedwisp | If they would redo a few of the textures(mostly ground textures) it could be great |
| 22:21.13 | Taintedwisp | that and fix the shitty overmap that d2 had... |
| 22:21.18 | Taintedwisp | I hated that thing in diablo 2 |
| 22:21.25 | JademusSreg | Meh is an understatement. |
| 22:21.36 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:21.54 | Taintedwisp | Jademus seriously loathes\ the textures. |
| 22:21.56 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:24.54 | Daara | i'm sure jademus has a better word than loathe to use |
| 22:28.13 | Zolden | JademusSreg: waht word would you use? |
| 22:28.15 | Taintedwisp | abhor? |
| 22:28.37 | Taintedwisp | hate and distaste dont fit :P |
| 22:28.57 | Zolden | despise maybe |
| 22:29.13 | Zolden | or neglect |
| 22:29.34 | Taintedwisp | wtf neglect? |
| 22:30.13 | Taintedwisp | no he makes the point that he does detest it, meaning that he does care about it, and that it does bother him :P |
| 22:30.43 | Zolden | texturing |
| 22:31.15 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:31.42 | Taintedwisp | Zolden do you has http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg? |
| 22:31.46 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain016_zpsbe49c0f5.jpg |
| 22:32.03 | Taintedwisp | Didnt know if it would go through with the questionmark |
| 22:32.03 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:33.03 | Zolden | whould this say that you painted textures? |
| 22:36.22 | Taintedwisp | :P lol in photoshop with no addons like a noob, but yes :P |
| 22:36.37 | Taintedwisp | I have gotten to where I can Usually get decent results |
| 22:36.53 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain021_zpsbb5cf408.jpg |
| 22:36.55 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:37.15 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain095_zpse175eebb.jpg |
| 22:37.27 | Taintedwisp | http://i183.photobucket.com/albums/x171/11shadowwolf/Terrain100_zpse6e37af5.jpg |
| 22:37.29 | Taintedwisp | See zolden :P |
| 22:37.54 | Zolden | yea |
| 22:38.04 | Daara | wow |
| 22:38.17 | Daara | Cal Tech has probably the worst athletic program i've ver seen |
| 22:38.40 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 22:38.52 | Daara | this is their first baseball win in the last 229 games |
| 22:38.58 | Taintedwisp | Lol athletic program, as if thats even a skill... |
| 22:39.03 | Daara | their basketball team just broke a 339 game losing streak |
| 22:39.10 | Taintedwisp | thats like me saying playing diablo is a skill -_- |
| 22:39.11 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:39.23 | Daara | it is |
| 22:39.24 | Daara | :P |
| 22:39.29 | Taintedwisp | yeah... |
| 22:39.30 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:39.36 | Daara | i could make their baseball and basketball team probably |
| 22:39.37 | Zolden | doesn't care about any sports that doesn't use pigs |
| 22:39.42 | Daara | and i haven't played either in 10 years |
| 22:39.50 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:40.04 | Taintedwisp | Well damn I could get a full scholarship I played a game of baseball just last year :P |
| 22:40.16 | Daara | haha |
| 22:40.20 | Daara | i was actually pretty good at baseball |
| 22:40.35 | Daara | i stopped playing because i liked soccer more and they were during the same season |
| 22:40.38 | Taintedwisp | I was okay :P. I could hit it everytime deep into the outfield, but Im slow as shit :P |
| 22:40.52 | Zolden | girls with a wooden swords riding pigs fighting team vs team - that's the sport to watch |
| 22:40.52 | Daara | you don't have to be fast to play baseball lol |
| 22:41.01 | Taintedwisp | im a slow runner :P |
| 22:41.27 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: ride a nigger, they are faster runners |
| 22:41.29 | Daara | i quit basketball after being on all the all-star traveling teams because the coach in jr. high said i was to short to be on the A team |
| 22:41.33 | Taintedwisp | No womens Mud Wrestling, theres a collage worthy skill.. |
| 22:41.34 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:41.43 | Daara | i started wrestling in 7th grade |
| 22:41.54 | Daara | didn't lose a match until i was a junior |
| 22:42.13 | Taintedwisp | Meh I never could get into sports, the rules were always too simple and the stratagies used boring |
| 22:42.22 | Taintedwisp | I would rather sit and play or watch a game of chess |
| 22:42.34 | Daara | wrestling was fun |
| 22:42.37 | Daara | i got to hurt people |
| 22:42.42 | Daara | and not get in trouble |
| 22:42.51 | Taintedwisp | Womens Mud Wrestling is better.. men wrestling is kinda gay |
| 22:43.05 | Zolden | men wrestling is super gay |
| 22:43.09 | Daara | it is kinda gay lol... |
| 22:43.15 | Zolden | south park episode |
| 22:43.17 | Taintedwisp | the uniforms dont help.. |
| 22:43.18 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:43.18 | Daara | haha |
| 22:43.35 | Daara | uniforms are like that to reduce the chances of something to grab onto |
| 22:43.44 | Daara | you can't have long hair either |
| 22:43.51 | Taintedwisp | Okay so we all agree, Wrestling is gay, and Womens mud wrestling is awesome correct? |
| 22:43.58 | Zolden | uniform won't hide a boner |
| 22:43.58 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:43.58 | Daara | yep |
| 22:44.02 | Daara | lol |
| 22:44.02 | Daara | omg |
| 22:44.15 | Daara | i had a guy get a boner when i was wrestling him |
| 22:44.19 | Daara | fucking sick |
| 22:44.21 | Taintedwisp | ew.... |
| 22:44.29 | Zolden | was it near your face? |
| 22:44.32 | Daara | no |
| 22:44.32 | Taintedwisp | I would have stopped there, and got out of the right, then cussed that faggot.. |
| 22:44.41 | Zolden | lol |
| 22:44.42 | Taintedwisp | or just punched him.. |
| 22:44.51 | Taintedwisp | I am the guy who would punch the gay kid... |
| 22:44.52 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:44.55 | Daara | i pinned him in like 15 seconds |
| 22:45.06 | Taintedwisp | I wouldnt have touched him, fucking gross bastard |
| 22:45.09 | Zolden | he could just start banging you |
| 22:45.10 | Daara | got the fuck out of there quick |
| 22:45.17 | Daara | lol no chance |
| 22:45.32 | Daara | i had him in a headlock so tight he couldn't breathe |
| 22:45.43 | Zolden | it turned him on |
| 22:45.46 | Daara | probably |
| 22:46.18 | Daara | we made fun of one of the kids on the team for years because he lost to a girl |
| 22:46.19 | Zolden | now he probably ask his gay parthners to do the same to him |
| 22:46.19 | Taintedwisp | sooo what Im hearing, is a guy got a boner from daara and daara grabbed the guys head and put it close to his junk.. |
| 22:46.22 | Taintedwisp | kinda gay daara |
| 22:46.35 | Zolden | one of them have probably accidently killed him this way |
| 22:46.47 | Daara | lol |
| 22:47.17 | Taintedwisp | Damn daara they made you fight women too... I would have refused, or thrown the match, fuch that |
| 22:47.19 | Taintedwisp | fuck* |
| 22:47.24 | Daara | no i didn't |
| 22:47.34 | Taintedwisp | I wouldnt have participated.. |
| 22:47.34 | Daara | any girl that weighed as much as me or more was a fatty |
| 22:47.42 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 22:47.49 | Daara | most girls that wrested were in the lowest weight bracket |
| 22:47.55 | Daara | like 103 |
| 22:48.14 | Daara | it was funny watching guys at that weight wrestle them |
| 22:48.20 | Daara | because some of the girls were hot |
| 22:48.23 | Taintedwisp | soooo a midget got his ass whooped by a girl? still why the fuck did he fight her anyways... |
| 22:48.42 | Daara | they would come out of the match like...fuck i was just trying to not to get turned on! |
| 22:48.54 | Taintedwisp | Normal Height men are no where close to 103 :P |
| 22:49.13 | Daara | yea most were pretty short |
| 22:49.16 | Daara | or just really skinny |
| 22:50.00 | Daara | i was at 130 then 135 and then 140 through highschool |
| 22:51.23 | Taintedwisp | damn.. I was 180-230 throughout highschool |
| 22:51.28 | Taintedwisp | Then again I am 6' 5'' now :P |
| 22:51.56 | Daara | yea you're 8 inches taller than me |
| 22:52.43 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:52.43 | Daara | i'm at 165 now |
| 22:52.49 | Taintedwisp | in both height and dick... |
| 22:52.50 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:52.56 | Daara | i could lose 15 pounds easy |
| 22:52.57 | Daara | lol |
| 22:53.23 | Daara | i like mine just how long it is |
| 22:54.00 | Daara | any bigger and it starts to become uncormfortable for most women |
| 22:55.17 | Taintedwisp | dude.... 3 inches is not uncomfortable to women.. |
| 22:55.18 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 22:55.20 | Taintedwisp | trolol |
| 22:56.50 | Zolden | what color monster's teeth are? |
| 22:57.46 | Daara | 3 inches buffed |
| 22:58.25 | Vailreth | well shit hots breaks my tome shop |
| 22:58.30 | Taintedwisp | lawl |
| 22:58.53 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth A tome shop isnt hard to make :P |
| 22:59.01 | Taintedwisp | wait nvm... |
| 22:59.26 | Taintedwisp | Yeah its not impossible to make :P |
| 22:59.49 | Vailreth | i had one in wol but the buffs vanished when the heros died |
| 23:00.12 | Vailreth | now that the buffs persisit i cant cast them from the shop onto the hero |
| 23:01.47 | Vailreth | ok i think i see my issue |
| 23:03.07 | Vailreth | ok yes i got it working again |
| 23:04.00 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:04.07 | Taintedwisp | Why must the heroes die :P |
| 23:04.26 | Taintedwisp | OH thats right you havent seen it yet have you? I made a hero Attribute Upgrade System :P |
| 23:04.48 | Taintedwisp | So now when you kill a hero you get 1 terrazine that is spent on an ability that applys a buff to a hero thats stackable that gives 1 attribute point :P |
| 23:08.39 | Taintedwisp | I hope it last after the hero dies... |
| 23:08.39 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:08.44 | Taintedwisp | I havent tested that yet' |
| 23:11.21 | Vailreth | if it grants a buff to the hero that adds points to the attributes no as far as i know in WoL it doesnt stay |
| 23:11.52 | Taintedwisp | Ill run a test |
| 23:11.53 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:12.14 | Taintedwisp | In WoL upgrading the points a buff gives you doesnt work :( |
| 23:12.37 | Taintedwisp | it breaks and messes up the units energy |
| 23:14.22 | Taintedwisp | NOOO |
| 23:14.24 | Taintedwisp | DAMMIT |
| 23:14.30 | Taintedwisp | I THOUGHT THAT DAMN THING WAS FINISHED!!! |
| 23:14.32 | Taintedwisp | errrrrr |
| 23:14.47 | Taintedwisp | Vailreth is there anyway to get around htis.. |
| 23:15.26 | Vailreth | hold on let me look at what is set up |
| 23:16.41 | Vailreth | is this trigger or data base? |
| 23:16.51 | Taintedwisp | Data |
| 23:17.06 | Taintedwisp | its on every hero -_- its inside of their learn submenu |
| 23:17.13 | Taintedwisp | and looks great.. |
| 23:22.50 | Vailreth | how does it break? |
| 23:26.41 | Taintedwisp | When you upgrade the points through upgrades (upgrading a buff that gives attribute pointes) then for some reason the energy wacks out and you loose random amounts of energy |
| 23:27.59 | Ahli | trigger catalog winrar |
| 23:28.11 | Taintedwisp | lol |
| 23:28.35 | Ahli | I trigger hero things and have no problems |
| 23:30.42 | Taintedwisp | just updated the dropbox with the newest... I need a triggerer bad... |
| 23:32.11 | Taintedwisp | I need a triggerer for Vote Modes, a few more events, CLeaning up the UI(leaderboard too large, but I have a simple IDea to remove 1 thing from it, and 1 thing from the UI, and make the overall UI more User Friendly) |
| 23:32.22 | Taintedwisp | All thats left is simple stuff.. |
| 23:32.23 | Taintedwisp | :P |
| 23:32.34 | Taintedwisp | just hope I can find someone for it soon |
| 23:34.10 | Vailreth | the electric floor mode dosent end but i will check the newer map |
| 23:34.15 | Vailreth | for the same issue |
| 23:35.23 | Taintedwisp | ok |
| 23:35.30 | Taintedwisp | Make sure your using WOL editor |
| 23:35.35 | Vailreth | i am |
| 23:35.45 | Taintedwisp | HoTS Editor is buggy |
| 23:35.49 | Taintedwisp | The cutscene breaks in Hots :( |
| 23:36.00 | Taintedwisp | Well, It doesnt in/out to and from black |
| 23:36.07 | Taintedwisp | a minor problem I am sure |
| 23:36.13 | Taintedwisp | the camer pans and everything though |
| 23:36.21 | Vailreth | hm they probably changed the cutscene engine |
| 23:36.36 | Vailreth | we may have to fix it when they do a compatibility patch for WoL |
| 23:37.04 | Vailreth | so that Blizz Allstars works correctly on both |
| 23:37.21 | Taintedwisp | ah |
| 23:37.32 | Taintedwisp | Blizz Allstars was Delayed again :( |
| 23:37.43 | Taintedwisp | they are now talking like its going to be shortly before LoTV |
| 23:38.33 | Ahli | is it going to be a sc2 mod or its own game? |
| 23:38.36 | Ahli | or both? |
| 23:38.44 | Taintedwisp | DUnno yet no details |
| 23:39.02 | Taintedwisp | but they stopped saying Sc2 Mod and started saying a game inside the Starcraft 2 "Box" |
| 23:39.11 | Taintedwisp | Starcraft is now a platform.... |
| 23:39.13 | Exaken | they only said that you don't need sc2 to play it, right? |
| 23:39.27 | Taintedwisp | They said you WOULD need Sc2 to play it, but only the starter edition |
| 23:39.32 | Ahli | well, that can mean starter |
| 23:39.34 | Ahli | yes |
| 23:39.56 | Ahli | also, I guess that they will give their best arcade map out for starters |
| 23:39.56 | Taintedwisp | starter is free anyways |
| 23:40.16 | Vailreth | tainted which heros are having the energy issue ?i am not seeing it |
| 23:40.32 | Taintedwisp | If they are smart they will give Blizzard Allstars, The features maps, The blizzard Mods, and teh Melee League play in starters |
| 23:40.39 | Taintedwisp | and just 3 missions of the campaign |
| 23:40.42 | Ahli | also, hots has now support for unlockable stuff that you can select in options like skins |
| 23:40.46 | Taintedwisp | That would increase their sales substantially |
| 23:41.56 | Tomura | how does the free starter edition increase sales if it offers everything |
| 23:43.45 | Triceron | what?! |
| 23:43.51 | Triceron | did they just say that? |
| 23:43.55 | Tomura | or did I understand something wrong? |
| 23:44.02 | Triceron | before lotv |
| 23:44.07 | *** join/#sc2mapster Zolden (58870015@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.135.0.21) |
| 23:44.41 | Exaken | I don't think they said that |
| 23:44.56 | Ahli | starter edition only gives you access to a few things I would guess |
| 23:45.02 | Exaken | that would be another 3 years |
| 23:45.11 | Ahli | and then give you huge upgrade now buttons and popups |
| 23:50.21 | Zolden | Taintedwisp: wanna go play my map? |
| 23:52.47 | JademusSreg | I'd use "loathsome". |
| 23:52.50 | JademusSreg | bbl |
